[GAME THREAD]: OVER 9000-verse Mafia!

[Antithesis]

More I think about it, the more I dislike the claim.

WC clearly lynchbait.

Destiny's whole "can't claim or I'll lose my ability" clearly makes him suspicious.

Prophet as Jean Grey could become Dark Phoenix oh noes world is gonna be destroyed...

Making Venom Justice aligned as well, its starting to push the boundaries. Not because Venom can't be a hero, but because of WC/Destiny/Prohpet and who knows what else.

My guy is a hero. No ifs ands or buts about it. I can buy some lynchbait and some shades of gray, but this is becoming a bit too much.

[canyoudothecancan]

More I think about it, the more I dislike the claim.

WC clearly lynchbait.

Destiny's whole "can't claim or I'll lose my ability" clearly makes him suspicious.

Prophet as Jean Grey could become Dark Phoenix oh noes world is gonna be destroyed...

Making Venom Justice aligned as well, its starting to push the boundaries. Not because Venom can't be a hero, but because of WC/Destiny/Prohpet and who knows what else.

My guy is a hero. No ifs ands or buts about it. I can buy some lynchbait and some shades of gray, but this is becoming a bit too much.

Are you spider-man?
Also I think the destiny's claim and lose his ability thing is crap(I know other people have said it but just wanted to state my opinion on Destiny.)

[crayon]

Anyone ever consider the possibility that there are Marvel and DC characters that start out Justice aligned but are recruited to their respective groups and that can still win with Justice (being that they are heroes) but maybe have to compete against each other too?

The extra line could be that he had to outnumber members of the Marvel group at the end as well...

right?

It really does feel that way to me. Seems weird that DC alone would have their own alignment, and not Marvel.

Shooting purely off of theory, there are plenty of Marvel villains capable of ripping Catwoman's bullwhip in half.

The first one to come to mind that I know is in the mod would be Abomination.

Hell, ripping a bullwhip in half wouldn't even require Abomination.I'd imagine that anyone who has some kind of super strength could do the job.

[Tha Black Phenom]

You don't think a big black liquid monster thing covering somebody in tendrils wont be in the write-up?

Not if the situation isn't fruitful enough to be featured in the write-up, no.

You target someone who isn't targeted by anyone else, I'd be damn sure it won't be mentioned in there. In most games, uneventful protections are left out, now in a game where the mods are even more selective in the write-ups, what will make this any special?

[SuperOwens]

Not if the situation isn't fruitful enough to be featured in the write-up, no.

You target someone who isn't targeted by anyone else, I'd be damn sure it won't be mentioned in there. In most games, uneventful protections are left out, now in a game where the mods are even more selective in the write-ups, what will make this any special?

Seems you cut out the important part of my post. Your asking how can I prove myself if im not in the write-ups.

I don't need to, there is a far easier way. Again, I have not claimed I'm a miller.

[eayragt]

Last post of the... phase actually. Even earlier start than SuperOwens.

Are we going to really let SuperOwens get away with a scummy claim, backed up with scummy abilities? Sure, he's invited investigation, but he could come up town and be scum. Or be part of a group with someone who can mess with results. I've had one of them before.

Everything about him screams scum... apart from the role title. It's not as if that'd be too hard to change.

I hope to see a lynch in the morning - don't hold back, remember we have two silenced today so could be two votes down.

[crayon]

CHANGE VOTE: No Vote

I'm still suspicious of Destiny, but I'm much more interested in SuperOwens right now.

Also, if Marvel and DC do have cult'ish factions, it would also make an nCw/Anonymous faction much less likely, given their importance in the gameworld.

[Wallbanger]

But that implies that you're either DC or Marvel...so we can't take your word on the subject as fact for the same reason we can't take SO's as fact.

You're correct - so I can presume you're not a Justice Aligned character from the DC or Marvel franchise?

[Antithesis]

Are you spider-man?
Also I think the destiny's claim and lose his ability thing is crap(I know other people have said it but just wanted to state my opinion on Destiny.)

No I'm not spiderman. Are you? :D

Take all the shades of grey stuff and throw in the semi dark write ups and I am going on record now. Town won't win this game, because what we are arriving at is a themed game where character claims are mostly useless, and without more descriptive write ups, its going to become impossible to pin people down.


Only way we are gonna win is if our watchers, trackers and investigators survive for a good long time.

[Glotnot]

You're correct - so I can presume you're not a Justice Aligned character from the DC or Marvel franchise?

You certainly can.

[Wallbanger]

I don't need to, there is a far easier way. Again, I have not claimed I'm a miller.

Mr. Framer! Mr. Framer! Ooh, ooh, pick me Mr. Framer!! :p

[canyoudothecancan]

No I'm not spiderman. Are you? :D

Take all the shades of grey stuff and throw in the semi dark write ups and I am going on record now. Town won't win this game, because what we are arriving at is a themed game where character claims are mostly useless, and without more descriptive write ups, its going to become impossible to pin people down.


Only way we are gonna win is if our watchers, trackers and investigators survive for a good long time.

Nah I'm not spider man.
I was asking you because you said you were a clear hero so I thought of famous super heros.

[Wallbanger]

You certainly can.

Cool! Then you're either not a DC/Marvel character at all, or you're DC aligned. (If you were Marvel aligned you'd know that Venom wasn't in your group).

[SuperOwens]

Mr. Framer! Mr. Framer! Ooh, ooh, pick me Mr. Framer!! :p

:D

If you cant even prove yourself when you come up town, then there really is no hope.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Last post of the... phase actually. Even earlier start than SuperOwens.

Are we going to really let SuperOwens get away with a scummy claim, backed up with scummy abilities? Sure, he's invited investigation, but he could come up town and be scum. Or be part of a group with someone who can mess with results. I've had one of them before.

Everything about him screams scum... apart from the role title. It's not as if that'd be too hard to change.

With possible scum bus drivers/redirectors or whatever the past theories have amounted to, I wouldn't rule out that either.

[crayon]

So what I'm gathering is.. SuperOwens is suggesting that someone investigate him at night to find out if he really is justice aligned? Wouldn't that paint a big mark on where our investigator would be?

[canyoudothecancan]

So what I'm gathering is.. SuperOwens is suggesting that someone investigate him at night to find out if he really is justice aligned? Wouldn't that paint a big mark on where our investigator would be?

I am pray that there is no crazy investigators in this game.
Then again I can't think of anyone in the 9000 verse that would match up with that role.

[SuperOwens]

So what I'm gathering is.. SuperOwens is suggesting that someone investigate him at night to find out if he really is justice aligned? Wouldn't that paint a big mark on where our investigator would be?

Depends on what night they pick. But yeah, if there is a scum watcher role (ever been one before?) they could find out who targeted me.

[Glotnot]

Cool! Then you're either not a DC/Marvel character at all, or you're DC aligned. (If you were Marvel aligned you'd know that Venom wasn't in your group).

I'm not a Marvel/DC character at all.

[canyoudothecancan]

I'm not a Marvel/DC character at all.

Street fighter?

[Glotnot]

Street fighter?

Wait a minute, why I am getting questioned now.

[Glotnot]

Also, no.

[canyoudothecancan]

Wait a minute, why I am getting questioned now.

This isn't scum questioning just trying to read you.

[Wallbanger]

Wait a minute, why I am getting questioned now.

Same reason anyone else gets questioned - information. ;)

[Antithesis]

Wait a minute, why I am getting questioned now.

He asked me if I was Spiderman also....

Could be he's new and hasn't picked up on the fact that what he's doing is the same thing that got Destiny in trouble or.. I dunno

[Antithesis]

Cool! Then you're either not a DC/Marvel character at all, or you're DC aligned. (If you were Marvel aligned you'd know that Venom wasn't in your group).

Guessing thats you're way of saying you're with the Marvel group.

[canyoudothecancan]

Guessing thats you're way of saying you're with the Marvel group.

Are you?

[Antithesis]

Are you?

Are you?


See, two can play at that game!

[SuperOwens]

Im not

[Antithesis]

Im not

Bet ya Wallbanger wants to ask if you'd like to be. :D

[canyoudothecancan]

Are you?


See, two can play at that game!

Nuh-uh.
Are you?

[crayon]

Are you?

Are you part of a group that likes to eat pasta, listen to frank sinatra, while wearing dark shades and a pin strip suit? Because if you are, I think we can clear you as town.

[SuperOwens]

Bet ya Wallbanger wants to ask if you'd like to be. :D

I never get recruited :(

[Tha Black Phenom]

:D

If you cant even prove yourself when you come up town, then there really is no hope.

Well the thing is, you haven't claimed Pippy Longstocking or Jim Gordon. Claimed someone who, yes has been a hero but is also one of the most celebrated villains of all time. That saying which must be remembered.. "no one is 100% confirmed 'till they hit the graveyard".

I don't know, I might let the 'testing' ensue but part of me wouldn't feel completely convinced anyway..

[Tha Black Phenom]

I never get recruited :(

Same, and I'm often the one doing the recruiting instead.

[supermareo]

*scratches head* seems to be an awful lot of marvel/DC guys being claimed for the mod this game is based on

[Wallbanger]

Guessing thats you're way of saying you're with the Marvel group.

Do try to keep up, my good man, I've already stated that I'm Justice aligned.

[Antithesis]

*scratches head* seems to be an awful lot of marvel/DC guys being claimed for the mod this game is based on

Are you Marvel or DC?

:beats CanCan to the punch:

[supermareo]

Are you Marvel or DC?

:beats CanCan to the punch:

neither :p nor street fighter before you ask.

[Antithesis]

Do try to keep up, my good man, I've already stated that I'm Justice aligned.

Oh and according to the first axiom of Mafia, "if Wallbanger says it, it must be true," I apologize for my mistake. ;)

[SuperOwens]

Well the thing is, you haven't claimed Pippy Longstocking or Jim Gordon. Claimed someone who, yes has been a hero but is also one of the most celebrated villains of all time. That saying which must be remembered.. "no one is 100% confirmed 'till they hit the graveyard".

I don't know, I might let the 'testing' ensue but part of me wouldn't feel completely convinced anyway..

Listen, I get why I'm probably going to end up lynched. Before I got the role, I would have said Venom was a baddy. I have no comic book 'smarts' at all, and he's always been a bad dude in everything I have seen.

I'm just not in this game. Though I have bad intentions, I think its like my goals are good but I do bad stuff to achieve them. Like a bit of an inner power struggle

Same, and I'm often the one doing the recruiting instead.

Never had that role either. I'd like to one time.

[canyoudothecancan]

Are you Marvel or DC?

:beats CanCan to the punch:

I'll get you back for this anti!

[Antithesis]

I'll get you back for this anti!

Another fiendish plot foiled by fast typing!

[supermareo]

back to the subject at hand, venom as town, now whilst i could see for a marvel themed game bits from that canon that would make him a 50/50 character at best, surely the character is best known for being a bad guy therefore in something that contains multiple characters from all different worlds so to speak that's the pigeonhole he's be put in in terms of this game

[canyoudothecancan]

I'd like to know if Wallbanger is marvelous or DCool.

[Glotnot]

Same, and I'm often the one doing the recruiting instead.

He admitted it, get him!

[canyoudothecancan]

I will be gone for a bit but when I come back I am expecting an answer from you Wallbanger!

[SuperOwens]

Gotta shoot off to bed people. Annoying, as I know there will be questions come closer to the deadline.

Night all.

[gonvick]

Depends on what night they pick. But yeah, if there is a scum watcher role (ever been one before?) they could find out who targeted me.

Except the investigator would have to reveal the result at some point. Unless you suggest we take silence on the matter as evidence that you were investigated and came up clean. I'm not really comfortable with that big of an assumption being the reason to not lynch you.

The other issue is that we're getting late in the day. If we don't lynch SO, then what do we do instead? Is lynching Venom better or worse than not lynching anyone? Is lynching Venom better or worse than lynching Destiny? Is there another option I'm overlooking?

[Wallbanger]

Oh and according to the first axiom of Mafia, "if Wallbanger says it, it must be true," I apologize for my mistake. ;)

Actually, that's the second axiom. But at least you remembered! :p

[Wallbanger]

I'd like to know if Wallbanger is marvelous or DCool.

I am indeed marvelous and cool. Though I try not to brag about it. :cool:

[Tha Black Phenom]

He admitted it, get him!

N-n-n-n-no, it's Destiny I tells ya!

[crayon]

*scratches head* seems to be an awful lot of marvel/DC guys being claimed for the mod this game is based on

I've kind of been wondering this myself. Is it coincedence, d_w_w putting an emphasis towards those two factions, or just scum fake claims given that they're the most well known characters to everyone?

[crayon]

Gotta shoot off to bed people. Annoying, as I know there will be questions come closer to the deadline.

Night all.

You hear that? He's going to shoot anyone who goes off to bed! Wallbanger and now SuperOwens busted, good work guys! :D

[Wallbanger]

You hear that? He's going to shoot anyone who goes off to bed! Wallbanger and now SuperOwens busted, good work guys! :D

Funny, I don't recall admitting I was a symbiotic goo with a penchant for violence. ;)

[crayon]

I don't think we're going to get much more out of this, and I'm leaning towards it being a better idea to lynch than not at this point, given that there doesn't really seem to be any way to validate such a historically shady character without an investigator exposing themselves either before or after the fact.

VOTE: SuperOwen

[crayon]

Vote: SuperOwens

I think they'd figure it out, but better adhere to rules

[mjdgoldeneye]

You'll notice, I haven't left.

I'm not new, either. I don't need to be told to "attach myself to something." I said, I've read, and from what I've read, I've placed my vote.

I wasn't speaking directly to you.

Also should point out MJ has admitted that he didn't go out N1. Of course we have no idea if the kill was mandatory or maybe if both killers targeted Cbot N1.

Those are still possibilities.

Honestly, man. It's like you don't care HOW you implicate me as scum, you just really want to...

Sure, I'd reveal I didn't go out at night (completely unprovoked) when I'm an optional killer who just so happened to kill on the next night... There's so much bizarro anti-logic in there that I can't even explain it lest I have a brain hemorrhage. For the record, I didn't do anything last night either.

As far as the Destiny and SO situations go, Venom is modeled similarly to my role (not abilities wise, just structurally) and he was a key "anti-hero" type in the 90's when he wasn't entirely evil, just chaotic. (Punisheresque)

I'm not saying I immediately believe him, but if it's a fake claim, it's a brilliant one.

Also, has anyone suggested we maybe kill 2 birds with one stone and have Venom use his kill attempt on Destiny? Depending on what happens, we can establish a relationship between the two.

I haven't thought the idea through entirely, but I'm just throwing that out there.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Honestly, man. It's like you don't care HOW you implicate me as scum, you just really want to...

Sure, I'd reveal I didn't go out at night (completely unprovoked) when I'm an optional killer who just so happened to kill on the next night... There's so much bizarro anti-logic in there that I can't even explain it lest I have a brain hemorrhage. For the record, I didn't do anything last night either.

That's some strong rhetoric now that I re-read it... :p I was just watching Zero Punctuation, so sorry about that.

[Antithesis]

I wasn't speaking directly to you.



Honestly, man. It's like you don't care HOW you implicate me as scum, you just really want to...

Sure, I'd reveal I didn't go out at night (completely unprovoked) when I'm an optional killer who just so happened to kill on the next night... There's so much bizarro anti-logic in there that I can't even explain it lest I have a brain hemorrhage. For the record, I didn't do anything last night either.

As far as the Destiny and SO situations go, Venom is modeled similarly to my role (not abilities wise, just structurally) and he was a key "anti-hero" type in the 90's when he wasn't entirely evil, just chaotic. (Punisheresque)

I'm not saying I immediately believe him, but if it's a fake claim, it's a brilliant one.

Also, has anyone suggested we maybe kill 2 birds with one stone and have Venom use his kill attempt on Destiny? Depending on what happens, we can establish a relationship between the two.

I haven't thought the idea through entirely, but I'm just throwing that out there.


How many posts have I made "implicating" you as scum?

I think I might have joked that you might be the Don when you said you didn't go out N1, and I posted that I didn't see the point of sharing that info, it being useless, ultimately.

I brought the issue back up not as a knock on you (believe it or not, I really don't care that much about you this game) but more as to show the flaw in Gon's reasoning.

Aside from the Don and some kind of vote manipulator, most scum have active roles at night. Whether someone goes out at night or not doesn't prove anything by itself.

The real reason I've paid any attention to you at all is because of your different behavior this game. Futurama you were all gang busters, not even a mod kill could get you to shut the hell up.

This game you are like, 'meh whatever'. I do wonder what the reason for the change could be.

As for your suggestion. There may be strong chance scum have a bus driver. Trying to set up a kill under that circumstance is just silly.

[canyoudothecancan]

Antithesis are you batman?

[mjdgoldeneye]

How many posts have I made "implicating" you as scum?

I think I might have joked that you might be the Don when you said you didn't go out N1, and I posted that I didn't see the point of sharing that info, it being useless, ultimately.

I brought the issue back up not as a knock on you (believe it or not, I really don't care that much about you this game) but more as to show the flaw in Gon's reasoning.

Aside from the Don and some kind of vote manipulator, most scum have active roles at night. Whether someone goes out at night or not doesn't prove anything by itself.

The real reason I've paid any attention to you at all is because of your different behavior this game. Futurama you were all gang busters, not even a mod kill could get you to shut the hell up.

This game you are like, 'meh whatever'. I do wonder what the reason for the change could be.

As for your suggestion. There may be strong chance scum have a bus driver. Trying to set up a kill under that circumstance is just silly.

1) Futurama is one of my Top 10 favorite shows of all time and I was bulletproof in that game. Invader Zim is one of my Top 10 favorite shows of all time and I can't discuss my role in that game, but perhaps its fair to say I'm not as powerful as in Futurama. I spent a good 5 minutes looking at this mod and, considering my next point, my role is irrelevant.

I thrive on background knowledge and power roles. Without both, I'm not all that good.

Also, I have this pesky thing called "life" that makes my attention span plummet. Futurama wasn't nearly as vocal of a game as this one, so I could keep up while still sleeping like a normal person and also spend 7 hours of the day on campus.

Unfortunately, this game has been a lot of staying home and trying to bore my head through piles of WC posts and responses and the same Destiny argument that doesn't want to die.

There's certainly potential, but as I recall, we had a list of scum to kill in Futurama and therefore always had something to discuss. In this game, every potential townie we've seen so far seems to be a vague sort of lynch bait at best and I'm not even entirely sure what "town" includes beyond Justice Aligned.

I can't pull something out of nothing.

2) We don't have to choose who Destiny hides behind out loud and if Destiny is really a hider, we don't have to worry about him getting bus driven (otherwise, killing him would be as easy as switch him with someone and targeting the someone for a kill). My suggestion is that Venom targets Destiny. If Destiny lives, either Destiny and SO are in cahoots, Destiny is telling the truth, or Venom is lying. If Destiny dies, there were shenanigans or Destiny was lying (which would be apparent).

No matter what, the write-up, potential watchers/trackers, and the number of kills that come up will serve as valuable intel. (If Venom is really a scum killer, and he targets Destiny, there'll be one less kill. If he chooses not to target Destiny, I think we'd know.)

As I said, I didn't think it entirely through and there's plenty of room for unforeseen consequences, but I figured I'd share. Drawing from #1, I'm not full of ideas.

[GruntMark]

Talk about a doozy of a day...Was I replaced or should I read up?

And if they bus Venom?

Nah. Easier to lynch him. I don't buy a townie would receive a role from investigation anyway. That's scum stuff usually.

[mjdgoldeneye]

And if they bus Venom?

Nah. Easier to lynch him. I don't buy a townie would receive a role from investigation anyway. That's scum stuff usually.

...nothing changes? A bus driver changes who targets the busdriven people. It doesn't change who the busdriven people target.

[i effin rule]

...nothing changes? A bus driver changes who targets the busdriven people. It doesn't change who the busdriven people target.

Yes it does. The two driven switch targets.


Also, hello. Back from night class. Anyone have an updated vote count?

[Derek B]

Time to lynch SuperOwens then. The only way we wont learn something about the possibilites of a Marvel group and a competition with DC is if he's scum.

Win win.

We need to get this ball rolling now. I know there's several hours left in this phase, but some Europeans will be going off line soon.

I don't understand what you are saying? We lynch SO to see if a possible mason group will fess up to save him?

Is that what you are saying?

Or are you saying the Marvel group is a scum group?

I wasn't speaking directly to you.



Honestly, man. It's like you don't care HOW you implicate me as scum, you just really want to...

Sure, I'd reveal I didn't go out at night (completely unprovoked) when I'm an optional killer who just so happened to kill on the next night... There's so much bizarro anti-logic in there that I can't even explain it lest I have a brain hemorrhage. For the record, I didn't do anything last night either.

As far as the Destiny and SO situations go, Venom is modeled similarly to my role (not abilities wise, just structurally) and he was a key "anti-hero" type in the 90's when he wasn't entirely evil, just chaotic. (Punisheresque)

I'm not saying I immediately believe him, but if it's a fake claim, it's a brilliant one.

Also, has anyone suggested we maybe kill 2 birds with one stone and have Venom use his kill attempt on Destiny? Depending on what happens, we can establish a relationship between the two.

I haven't thought the idea through entirely, but I'm just throwing that out there.

And if they bus Venom?

Nah. Easier to lynch him. I don't buy a townie would receive a role from investigation anyway. That's scum stuff usually.

A handful of quotes there that I'm going to sum up quickly because it's getting late and I'm not going to be around for long.

It seems I worked things out a little before everyone else... Anti has pretty much confirmed a Marvel vs DC thing is going on and has already stated what side he's on. With his later posts, he's also pretty much said that both DC and Marvel are townie but opposed to each other AND scum. Makes both Marvel and DC aligned seem like they are on the side of good.

Having said that, there are going to be scum from both properties too with some likely candidates coming up today. I remember being killed by Venom (arrows :p) back in Marvel Mafia so I've got a bit of a grudge against him for that. But at the same time, I'm not sure he's scum because people who know him don't know for sure either. That's one of the problems with comics... battle lines always get moved around. :(

Lastly, if SuperOwens lives into the night then he should NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be using his kill tonight. If there is a scum bus driver (my money on Poison Ivy btw) then they'll just have a free kill by using it. No point in giving the bad guys a bigger arsenal than necessary.

Unfortunately though, none of SO's other abilities seem able to help clear Destiny... the watching type one should theoretically fail if he tries to use it on him, so if any ability had to be used then it should be that one. But I hate to waste that just to prove/disprove Destiny.

btw Destiny, do you HAVE to hide or can you elect not to? I'm not suggesting that you don't hide, I'm just curious to know if you have a choice as that could be potentially valuable later on. For example, scum are trying to get 2 for 1 kills by hitting whoever you hide behind, but you choose not to hide and nothing happens to you. That sort of thing. :)

[mjdgoldeneye]

Yes it does. The two driven switch targets.


Also, hello. Back from night class. Anyone have an updated vote count?

I've never seen or heard of that happening. Plus, the mafiascum wiki/the mafia flash thingy doesn't suggest this occurs (it states things as I did with no mention of the bus driven people switching targets). I mean, obviously I wouldn't have considering I never heard of this feature, but I also never included this in any of my bus driver roles.

So... yea... I contend this suggestion. Any notable examples of this happening?

[Derek B]

I've never seen or heard of that happening. Plus, the mafiascum wiki/the mafia flash thingy doesn't suggest this occurs (it states things as I did with no mention of the bus driven people switching targets). I mean, obviously I wouldn't have considering I never heard of this feature, but I also never included this in any of my bus driver roles.

So... yea... I contend this suggestion. Any notable examples of this happening?

That's how my bus driver (Gastly evolution tree) worked in Pokemon, so it does happen... happened before that too.

[GruntMark]

Yes it does. The two driven switch targets.


Also, hello. Back from night class. Anyone have an updated vote count?

I think only Crayon voted, making it 6.

If we are going to lynch, we need to start putting down the votes. Clock is ticking folks!

[mjdgoldeneye]

That's how my bus driver (Gastly evolution tree) worked in Pokemon, so it does happen... happened before that too.

To past mods: How did you write the busdriver? Simply for the sake of understanding what's standard, I'd like to know. I don't want to throw people off for not doing it the "right" way.

[GruntMark]

I've never seen or heard of that happening. Plus, the mafiascum wiki/the mafia flash thingy doesn't suggest this occurs (it states things as I did with no mention of the bus driven people switching targets). I mean, obviously I wouldn't have considering I never heard of this feature, but I also never included this in any of my bus driver roles.

So... yea... I contend this suggestion. Any notable examples of this happening?

My role in Lakeside.

[Antithesis]

A handful of quotes there that I'm going to sum up quickly because it's getting late and I'm not going to be around for long.

It seems I worked things out a little before everyone else... Anti has pretty much confirmed a Marvel vs DC thing is going on and has already stated what side he's on. With his later posts, he's also pretty much said that both DC and Marvel are townie but opposed to each other AND scum. Makes both Marvel and DC aligned seem like they are on the side of good.

Having said that, there are going to be scum from both properties too with some likely candidates coming up today. I remember being killed by Venom (arrows :p) back in Marvel Mafia so I've got a bit of a grudge against him for that. But at the same time, I'm not sure he's scum because people who know him don't know for sure either. That's one of the problems with comics... battle lines always get moved around. :(

Lastly, if SuperOwens lives into the night then he should NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be using his kill tonight. If there is a scum bus driver (my money on Poison Ivy btw) then they'll just have a free kill by using it. No point in giving the bad guys a bigger arsenal than necessary.

Unfortunately though, none of SO's other abilities seem able to help clear Destiny... the watching type one should theoretically fail if he tries to use it on him, so if any ability had to be used then it should be that one. But I hate to waste that just to prove/disprove Destiny.

btw Destiny, do you HAVE to hide or can you elect not to? I'm not suggesting that you don't hide, I'm just curious to know if you have a choice as that could be potentially valuable later on. For example, scum are trying to get 2 for 1 kills by hitting whoever you hide behind, but you choose not to hide and nothing happens to you. That sort of thing. :)

Ya know, sometimes you almost reach the greatness you achieved in the VG game... almost. :D

As for Venom... its an intersting test for me. If the Marvel people can take him, then likely none of the DC/Marvel characters are scum. Not saying its impossible. But being in two groups at the same time is rather rare. So the DC/Marvel Villains may in fact be Justice aligned for the intent of this game.

That said, for all I know, there isn't even a scum group per se, just individuals waiting to be recruited by their associated groups (who knows, maybe this aint just limited to Marvel and DC).

But yeah, Zeel's added win condition was that DC had to outnumber Marvel.

[GruntMark]

That said, for all I know, there isn't even a scum group per se, just individuals waiting to be recruited by their associated groups (who knows, maybe this aint just limited to Marvel and DC).


Imma say...unlikely. I work against evil, and evil is here.

[Antithesis]

Imma say...unlikely. I work against evil, and evil is here.

Well I believe ya, for whats its worth. I mean, what would the street fighter characters war with? People from Mortal Combat?

DC vs Marvel is something apparently DWW has done before and is easy enough to do.

Assuming The DC/Marvel villains are recruitable, then I have no idea who the "scum" of the Over 9000 verse would be.

[Astil]

:rolleyes:

... More on you later.

Because you jumped on a bandwagon that was clearly stalling with little more than a token explanation, then called out another player for doing just what you did.

In fact, the rationale of 'not splitting the vote' indicates to me that you're not as confident in the Prophet=Dark Phoenix theory as you'd like to present or that you were just throwing it out to see if it would build a head of steam on its own.

Astil's got a good eye for those kind of things, and he may be on to something. I'm still more likely to be looking at SO/IER at the moment, but rest assured IGMEOY Jman.

Thanks :)



Though if SO was truthful, I think he would definitely come up as "over 9000!!!!" on Jman's radar, meaning Prophet's case... well, it's still half and half on that end, but surely you know where I'm coming from.




Can someone fill me on on this, I must have missed it, with the playing chicken with the reaper irl I was doing.

BTW the car is 95% fixed.

[Antithesis]

Well I believe ya, for whats its worth. I mean, what would the street fighter characters war with? People from Mortal Combat?

DC vs Marvel is something apparently DWW has done before and is easy enough to do.

Assuming The DC/Marvel villains are recruitable, then I have no idea who the "scum" of the Over 9000 verse would be.

DC vs Marvel is something apparently DWW has done before and is easy enough to do in a large Mafia game is what I meant to say.

No offense DWW. :p

[Antithesis]

... More on you later.



Thanks :)




Can someone fill me on on this, I must have missed it, with the playing chicken with the reaper irl I was doing.

BTW the car is 95% fixed.

Glad to hear you're okay. Sleep safe knowing had anything happened, I would have been there to comfort Orange Kun. :D

[Antithesis]

Glad to hear you're okay. Sleep safe knowing had anything happened, I would have been there to comfort Orange Kun. :D

:cues Barry White music:

[Astil]

Glad to hear you're okay. Sleep safe knowing had anything happened, I would have been there to comfort Orange Kun. :D

Orange doesn't like Ninjas.

Can you feel me in, please. It's important.

[GruntMark]

Anti - /nod I don't have any clues in that department. Just that there is evil.

Astil - Jman says he used a one shot scanner and got a powerlevel over 9000 reading on Prophet.

[Astil]

Anti - /nod I don't have any clues in that department. Just that there is evil.

Astil - Jman says he used a one shot scanner and got a powerlevel over 9000 reading on Prophet.

Did he claim?

[GruntMark]

Did he claim?

JMan, no.

Prophet, Jean Grey.

(I assume you meant Prophet, but just in case.)

[Antithesis]

Orange doesn't like Ninjas.

Can you feel me in, please. It's important.

"feel you in" what exactly?

Thank you and try the Veal.

Prophet claimed Jean Grey... the Phoenix chick from X Men.

[Astil]

JMan, no.

Prophet, Jean Grey.

(I assume you meant Prophet, but just in case.)

JMan.

[Astil]

"feel you in" what exactly?

Thank you and try the Veal.

Prophet claimed Jean Grey... the Phoenix chick from X Men.

fill...

Not feel. Fill.

[GruntMark]

JMan.

Oh.

Well then, he didnt. He claimed it was a one shot and left it at that.

[crayon]

Assuming The DC/Marvel villains are recruitable, then I have no idea who the "scum" of the Over 9000 verse would be.

IF Venom/SuperOwens is justice aligned, I'm going to assume it'll be due to his Dark Avengers standing in the current Marvel universe, and not neccessarily as a sign that all Marvel/DC villians would be subject to the same sort of alignment.

Like I would think that The Joker is going to be scum through and through, regardless of any kind of DC faction going on.

[Antithesis]

JMan.

Well, since he outted Jean, if Prophet is telling the truth, I doubt Jman is with Marvel.

I'll tell you all right now he's not with me.

There was some talk that Jman might be in a group, so thats why I bring it up.

[Astil]

Oh.

Well then, he didnt. He claimed it was a one shot and left it at that.

Well, since he outted Jean, if Prophet is telling the truth, I doubt Jman is with Marvel.

I'll tell you all right now he's not with me.

There was some talk that Jman might be in a group, so thats why I bring it up.

How many power scouters do you think would be in this game?

[Antithesis]

IF Venom/SuperOwens is justice aligned, I'm going to assume it'll be due to his Dark Avengers standing in the current Marvel universe, and not neccessarily as a sign that all Marvel/DC villians would be subject to the same sort of alignment.

Like I would think that The Joker is going to be scum through and through, regardless of any kind of DC faction going on.

Its all theory unless and until the Marvel folks actually try to recruit Venom though.

If they can't then SO either lied about his character or his character's alignment.

I was waiting and waiting for one of the Marvel peeps to suggest it, but I guess they just aren't as brave as us DC heroes. :D

[crayon]

What I'm actually wondering is why would a power scouter be a one-shot use?

[Derek B]

To past mods: How did you write the busdriver? Simply for the sake of understanding what's standard, I'd like to know. I don't want to throw people off for not doing it the "right" way.

Mine was along the lines of "you mischievous little scamp, you can choose to play with people by confusing them to make them target each other's targets and for other people to target the other of the people they meant to"... it was wordy, but basically meant people targetted the driven got the other AND the driven's had their own targets switched too.

Ya know, sometimes you almost reach the greatness you achieved in the VG game... almost. :D

As for Venom... its an intersting test for me. If the Marvel people can take him, then likely none of the DC/Marvel characters are scum. Not saying its impossible. But being in two groups at the same time is rather rare. So the DC/Marvel Villains may in fact be Justice aligned for the intent of this game.

That said, for all I know, there isn't even a scum group per se, just individuals waiting to be recruited by their associated groups (who knows, maybe this aint just limited to Marvel and DC).

But yeah, Zeel's added win condition was that DC had to outnumber Marvel.

I don't think I'll ever be able to recapture the magic of VG mafia, I had far too much time on my hands and no reputation to get me killed/investigated based on whatever my alignment is in a game. That said, I've got experience now that stands me in good stead and generally nets me a good result for my alignment in the early goings of any game. Well, recent games being the exception. :p

Well I believe ya, for whats its worth. I mean, what would the street fighter characters war with? People from Mortal Combat?

DC vs Marvel is something apparently DWW has done before and is easy enough to do.

Assuming The DC/Marvel villains are recruitable, then I have no idea who the "scum" of the Over 9000 verse would be.

Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat would be soooo bad ass! :D

As for scum, I've got no idea how they'd be set up. With representatives from various properties they could be a couple of small groups + indys or a large group + indys... there aren't enough kills for more than a couple of groups really, and with apparantly both Marvel and DC alignments recruiting (they'd have to be balanced against each other to be fair) then I think that kinda rules out a cult.

My earlier worries are actually less now that I think about it like that... there aren't a lot of deaths so as long as townies keep their heads and Marvel vs DC doesn't erupt into chaos then all should be good. Remember that teams, BEHAVE!! :p

[Antithesis]

How many power scouters do you think would be in this game?

Depends on how many warring families there are.

Destiny hasn't been the only person in this game asking 20 questions...

[Astil]

Depends on how many warring families there are.

Destiny hasn't been the only person in this game asking 20 questions...

Power scouters I mean. Like for Power Levels

[Astil]

What I'm actually wondering is why would a power scouter be a one-shot use?

/nod

It shouldn't be.

[GruntMark]

I dont actually know what a power scouter is.

But as a tool, could someone be handing them out?

JMan didnt say if he started with it or acquired it.

[Antithesis]

Mine was along the lines of "you mischievous little scamp, you can choose to play with people by confusing them to make them target each other's targets and for other people to target the other of the people they meant to"... it was wordy, but basically meant people targetted the driven got the other AND the driven's had their own targets switched too.



I don't think I'll ever be able to recapture the magic of VG mafia, I had far too much time on my hands and no reputation to get me killed/investigated based on whatever my alignment is in a game. That said, I've got experience now that stands me in good stead and generally nets me a good result for my alignment in the early goings of any game. Well, recent games being the exception. :p



Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat would be soooo bad ass! :D

As for scum, I've got no idea how they'd be set up. With representatives from various properties they could be a couple of small groups + indys or a large group + indys... there aren't enough kills for more than a couple of groups really, and with apparantly both Marvel and DC alignments recruiting (they'd have to be balanced against each other to be fair) then I think that kinda rules out a cult.

My earlier worries are actually less now that I think about it like that... there aren't a lot of deaths so as long as townies keep their heads and Marvel vs DC doesn't erupt into chaos then all should be good. Remember that teams, BEHAVE!! :p

To my mind, if Justice wins then its a win for me. If the Marvel folks want to take it further than that then shame on them. :D

Also you regular townies remember, if situation arises where evil is vanquished, remember which comic book company came forward with info first.

That is all. :p

[Astil]

I dont actually know what a power scouter is.

But as a tool, could someone be handing them out?

JMan didnt say if he started with it or acquired it.

He didn't aquire it. The only thing stolen was "heavy", and I presume that was Zeel

[GruntMark]

Man. Anti is being all standup, almost makes me want to claim. Maybe all hold hands and sing.

Oh. But Im not Marvel. I was for serious when I said overseas product.

[Antithesis]

He didn't aquire it. The only thing stolen was "heavy", and I presume that was Zeel

It wasn't Zeel who did the stealing.

[Astil]

Man. Anti is being all standup, almost makes me want to claim. Maybe all hold hands and sing.

Oh. But Im not Marvel. I was for serious when I said overseas product.

Rock tha Dragon?

[Astil]

It wasn't Zeel who did the stealing.

No? Well anywho, the stolen item wasn't a scouter, so I doubt it was that.

[Antithesis]

It wasn't Zeel who did the stealing.

When I say that I forgot to add I don't know who it was, just that it wasn't Zeel.

[GruntMark]

He didn't aquire it. The only thing stolen was "heavy", and I presume that was Zeel

Could someone hand it to him?

Is it something that could be passed out?

[GruntMark]

Rock tha Dragon?

:confused:

[GruntMark]

South Park time. I'll check yall later.

[Astil]

Could someone hand it to him?

Is it something that could be passed out?

How many do you think are around.

And the fact that he said 'used a scouter' is telling.

Who uses scouter in DBZ? Bad guys. Bad Vegeta, Freiza, Nappa, Raditz.

[GruntMark]

Bad guys. Bad Vegeta, Freiza, Nappa, Raditz.

Thats why we need people like you.

Ive watched pretty much 0 anime, outside of Pokemon when I was little.

[Astil]

Thats why we need people like you.

Ive watched pretty much 0 anime, outside of Pokemon when I was little.

He needs to claim. Now.

[Antithesis]

How many do you think are around.

And the fact that he said 'used a scouter' is telling.

Who uses scouter in DBZ? Bad guys. Bad Vegeta, Freiza, Nappa, Raditz.

Why even come forward though? If scum were scouting people they'd keep the results to themselves.

[Astil]

Thats why we need people like you.

Ive watched pretty much 0 anime, outside of Pokemon when I was little.

I could tell from you're response to my question.

[i effin rule]

I've never seen or heard of that happening. Plus, the mafiascum wiki/the mafia flash thingy doesn't suggest this occurs (it states things as I did with no mention of the bus driven people switching targets). I mean, obviously I wouldn't have considering I never heard of this feature, but I also never included this in any of my bus driver roles.

So... yea... I contend this suggestion. Any notable examples of this happening?

That's how my bus driver (Gastly evolution tree) worked in Pokemon, so it does happen... happened before that too.

All mine have and I'm pretty sure Rev's have. Is also the way dww's worked in CC.

I think only Crayon voted, making it 6.

If we are going to lynch, we need to start putting down the votes. Clock is ticking folks!

Thanks.

I'll admit, I'm not particularly gung ho on this lynch as it seems plausibe (see: Mystique in Marvel Mafia who was modded by Rev). But it can hopefully answer some questions for us.

vote: SuperOwens

To past mods: How did you write the busdriver? Simply for the sake of understanding what's standard, I'd like to know. I don't want to throw people off for not doing it the "right" way.

The driver targets A and B. A sent in to target 1 and B target 2. Player Y targeted A and Z targeted B.


After the switch A targets 2, and Z targets A.

B targets 1, and Y targets B.


This is always the way I've done it and always the way I've explained it during games on here. I assume this is the standard.

[Tha Black Phenom]

What I'm actually wondering is why would a power scouter be a one-shot use?

Not only that, but what and who would it be limited to? As I said, Venom would definitely show up as over 9000 and.. that might not be the end of it.

Since the result sounds pretty gimmicky, as to do with the theme(somewhat) it could lay down to so many characters out there and likely in the game as well.

[Tha Black Phenom]

If we're heading where we're heading, then I got no problem.

Vote: SuperOwens

[Astil]

Why even come forward though? If scum were scouting people they'd keep the results to themselves.

Or, they'd try to appear town by outing someone, then say 'it was a one shot ability'.

Especially something as non-commital as 'over 9000'. Even in Prophet was strait up good guy, say Supes, Jman could come back with "I was trying to help the town!"

Thus leaving him out of the spotlight for a while.

[Astil]

'!'

I think I know who Nedew is too.

[Astil]

Thats why we need people like you.

Ive watched pretty much 0 anime, outside of Pokemon when I was little.

By the by, this post probably just got me night killed.

[crayon]

Could someone hand it to him?

I can't imagine it could be passed out.. but then I'm pretty new to this and have no idea if there's engineer roles or something like. I guess there is plenty of comic book inventor types who could do that sort of thing.. but then I can't imagine that power scouters would be floating around the place.

I wouldn't necessarily say Power Scouter = evil though. Some cases perhaps, but Vegeta (the most known guy to use a power scouter) is arguably anti-hero for the largest part of the series. And without consulting the mod, I think he begins as a face in the 9000-verse start game.

[Astil]

I can't imagine it could be passed out.. but then I'm pretty new to this and have no idea if there's engineer roles or something like. I guess there is plenty of comic book inventor types who could do that sort of thing.. but then I can't imagine that power scouters would be floating around the place.

I wouldn't necessarily say Power Scouter = evil though. Some cases perhaps, but Vegeta (the most known guy to use a power scouter) is arguably anti-hero for the largest part of the series. And without consulting the mod, I think he begins as a face in the 9000-verse start game.

But when does he use the scouter after the frieza saga?

[Derek B]

Or, they'd try to appear town by outing someone, then say 'it was a one shot ability'.

Especially something as non-commital as 'over 9000'. Even in Prophet was strait up good guy, say Supes, Jman could come back with "I was trying to help the town!"

Thus leaving him out of the spotlight for a while.

The whole Over 9000 result thing confuses me. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean and Jman doesn't seem to know either. It looks like he got a result and posted it without even knowing it. How he got the result, hmm.... but I think the result itself is genuine enough.

Anime confuses me in general... I've seen people talking about a result like that being somethnig that scum gets but I have trouble believing Jman would do something like th... *stops to think for a moment*... actually, maybe not. It might sound mean, but I don't rate Jman highly enough for this to be any kind of deception. Not got a problem pushing for info, but I don't see him being scummy, which makes me want to push less.

[Astil]

The whole Over 9000 result thing confuses me. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean and Jman doesn't seem to know either. It looks like he got a result and posted it without even knowing it. How he got the result, hmm.... but I think the result itself is genuine enough.

Anime confuses me in general... I've seen people talking about a result like that being somethnig that scum gets but I have trouble believing Jman would do something like th... *stops to think for a moment*... actually, maybe not. It might sound mean, but I don't rate Jman highly enough for this to be any kind of deception. Not got a problem pushing for info, but I don't see him being scummy, which makes me want to push less.

Derek...trust me. Something is very fishy here.

[Derek B]

Derek...trust me. Something is very fishy here.

It's impossible to trust you since the cult fiasco, you're lucky my hitlist died or you'd sooo be on it! And just because I know you were on it isn't enough to put you back on, it's a clean slate cos I'd never get through the list of people who lynched me while silenced early in South Park. :p

Having said that... does anyone else smell fish?

[crayon]

But when does he use the scouter after the frieza saga?

I guess he probably doesn't... but would d_w_w know that?

[Astil]

I guess he probably doesn't... but would d_w_w know that?

Yes.

[Antithesis]

Its D3, way too early to pull some grand scheme like "I'm a helpful terrorist, now give me the nuke and the launch codes plz".

Plus this is something I noticed about Astil when I modded Sin.

When he gets all excited about this he really believes it.

Of course, like in SIN he may not be 100% correct on everything, but its probably a legit theory from him.

That is, whatever his theory might. He hasn't really explained it yet.

[Astil]

Its D3, way too early to pull some grand scheme like "I'm a helpful terrorist, now give me the nuke and the launch codes plz".

Plus this is something I noticed about Astil when I modded Sin.

When he gets all excited about this he really believes it.

Of course, like in SIN he may not be 100% correct on everything, but its probably a legit theory from him.

That is, whatever his theory might. He hasn't really explained it yet.

No, there are plenty of ways in my head that Jman could be a townie. He just needs to claim now to alliviate my fears.

[Jman2k3]

That would be me. A quick I'm back post, later then expected. I did lie, I am the monster.

Venom, Justice Aligned Spider Symbiote.

Longer post coming

A monster Venom???? That doesn't sound very Eddie Brockish.

Shooting purely off of theory, there are plenty of Marvel villains capable of ripping Catwoman's bullwhip in half.

The first one to come to mind that I know is in the mod would be Abomination.

A-bomb is a very powerful super baddie.

IF Venom/SuperOwens is justice aligned, I'm going to assume it'll be due to his Dark Avengers standing in the current Marvel universe, and not neccessarily as a sign that all Marvel/DC villians would be subject to the same sort of alignment.

Like I would think that The Joker is going to be scum through and through, regardless of any kind of DC faction going on.

If that's the case he isn't Eddie Brock but Mac Garland.

[Glotnot]

That said, for all I know, there isn't even a scum group per se, just individuals waiting to be recruited by their associated groups (who knows, maybe this aint just limited to Marvel and DC).

I don' tknow about others, but I don't think there's a group I could be recruited into.

What I'm actually wondering is why would a power scouter be a one-shot use?

...Because whoever used it crushed it.

"It's over nine THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!"

*crush*

[Astil]

A monster Venom???? That doesn't sound very Eddie Brockish.



A-bomb is a very powerful super baddie.



If that's the case he isn't Eddie Brock but Mac Garland.

Nothing for me?

[Jman2k3]

Nothing for me?

Such as?

[Astil]

Such as?

At least a hint at why I shouldn't think your evil.

[Jman2k3]

At least a hint at why I shouldn't think your evil.

Cause I'm not.

[GruntMark]

Cause I'm not.

Very reassuring.

[Jman2k3]

Very reassuring.

I know right. :cool:

[Astil]

I know right. :cool:

How did this type of response work for Destiny?

Many evil people use scouters. Why aren't you one of them?

[GruntMark]

To be fair Destiny eventually gave some hints.

JMan has been entirely too jokey all game. Maybe its his new scum defense mechanism vs revealing everything and being lynched.

[Astil]

J, any hint, anything towards your character would be appreciated.

Do not make yourself into a distraction for the town.

[Jman2k3]

You want a hint. Here's one. Let's just say I "acquired" my power level reader meter ability from the guy with the Charmander avatar and used it the next night on Prophet.

[Astil]

You want a hint. Here's one. Let's just say I "acquired" my power level reader meter ability from the guy with the Charmander avatar and used it the next night on Prophet.

and it was a scouter?

[GruntMark]

:confused:

:eek:

:confused:

Games starting to hurt my head.

[Jman2k3]

and it was a scouter?

Something like that to a since.

[Astil]

Something like that to a since.

Bull.

[Astil]

Guys, I have no power scouter, and power scouters aren't heavy.

[Destiny]

Unfortunately I doubt we'll reach the numbers to lynch Jman2k3 today, but he looks very scummy at this point.

[Jman2k3]

Guys, I have no power scouter, and power scouters aren't heavy.

Never said it was your ability. ;)

[Destiny]

I'd tell you that we need more information sooner but I can't really talk after how badly I played my role for the first few days.

[Antithesis]

You want a hint. Here's one. Let's just say I "acquired" my power level reader meter ability from the guy with the Charmander avatar and used it the next night on Prophet.

Never said it was your ability. ;)

...

[Astil]

You want a hint. Here's one. Let's just say I "acquired" my power level reader meter ability from the guy with the Charmander avatar and used it the next night on Prophet.

Never said it was your ability. ;)

What!?!

[Destiny]

That's tremendous timing by both of you, and very reassuring. Hopefully Jman2k3 will let us know exactly what he means.

[Jman2k3]

The power detector ability I used on Prophet came from an item.

[Antithesis]

So it was Jman doing the stealing N1?

[Astil]

The power detector ability I used on Prophet came from an item.

You said it was a scouter.

[Destiny]

You said it was a scouter.

Perhaps he's using them as iner-changeable words. Either way, he should probably be clearer. I'm off to bed.

[Astil]

Perhaps he's using them as iner-changeable words. Either way, he should probably be clearer. I'm off to bed.

If he stole from me, then no, they are not.

[Jman2k3]

So it was Jman doing the stealing N1?

Bingo. We have a winner.

You said it was a scouter.

Yeah the item scouts power levels. :rolleyes:

[Astil]

Bingo. We have a winner.



Yeah the item scouts power levels. :rolleyes:

I don't like it. You're a female thief. I don't believe Yuffie is in the game. So, please to alliviate my fears, claim.

[Astil]

Bingo. We have a winner.



Yeah the item scouts power levels. :rolleyes:

Oh and unless D_w_w is using a lot of creative licensing, no it doesn't. But for interests sake did you learn other things about Prophet?

[Jman2k3]

I don't like it. You're a female thief. I don't believe Yuffie is in the game. So, please to alliviate my fears, claim.

Such harsh claims. I consider myself a collector of the have nots.

Oh and unless D_w_w is using a lot of creative licensing, no it doesn't. But for interests sake did you learn other things about Prophet?

Other than the fact he basically confirmed himself being Jean Grey and saying he could turn into Dark Phoenix then no.

[Astil]

Such harsh claims. I consider myself a collector of the have nots.



Other than the fact he basically confirmed himself being Jean Grey and saying he could turn into Dark Phoenix then no.

Be absolutely sure now.

[Antithesis]

I give Jman credit, at least he learned about Invisible mode for this game. :D

[Jman2k3]

Be absolutely sure now.

I believe he is Dark Phoenix. Grunt said Jean starts out with that gimmick in the mod, I believe him. I think Prophet is lying about suppressing it. Jean Grey isn't that powerful and never was until the Phoenix came along.

[mjdgoldeneye]

All mine have and I'm pretty sure Rev's have. Is also the way dww's worked in CC.

Cartoon Chaos? I don't think so... :p I wrote all the roles!!!

The driver targets A and B. A sent in to target 1 and B target 2. Player Y targeted A and Z targeted B.


After the switch A targets 2, and Z targets A.

B targets 1, and Y targets B.


This is always the way I've done it and always the way I've explained it during games on here. I assume this is the standard.

This seems to give the bus driver a ton more weight than I've ever seen actually pan out in the end.

Considering the 2 roles might not both be doing something, I haven't ever included this half. I probably won't in the future, so keep that in mind, whoever reads this. :p

[Wallbanger]

/waves to Prophet

[Astil]

I believe he is Dark Phoenix. Grunt said Jean starts out with that gimmick in the mod, I believe him. I think Prophet is lying about suppressing it. Jean Grey isn't that powerful and never was until the Phoenix came along.

Why did you only get some of my ability?

[Jman2k3]

Why did you only get some of my ability?

Guess cause I'm a thief and not a mimic.

[Astil]

/waves to Prophet

Yeah I saw that too. Figured he was catching up.

[Astil]

Guess cause I'm a thief and not a mimic.

That doesn't answer the question.

[Jman2k3]

That doesn't answer the question.

It kind of does. I stole an item from you. If I was someone like Rogue, or Peter Petrelli, hell even Mimic I wouldn't have copied your whole ability instead of part.

[Jman2k3]

It kind of does. I stole an item from you. If I was someone like Rogue, or Peter Petrelli, hell even Mimic I would have copied your whole ability instead of part.

Fixed.

[i effin rule]

Cartoon Chaos? I don't think so... :p I wrote all the roles!!!



This seems to give the bus driver a ton more weight than I've ever seen actually pan out in the end.

Considering the 2 roles might not both be doing something, I haven't ever included this half. I probably won't in the future, so keep that in mind, whoever reads this. :p

Character Creation.


You'd be surprised. In games where lots of people do things there have been many instances (at least in my games) where it has mattered. It was a large part of our game plan in Character Creation as well.

You're obviously free to use whatever roles in any way you want, but I would say that the way I described it is likely the standard use around here.

[i effin rule]

I'm very confused about this Jman/Astil/Prophet situation.

[Astil]

Fixed.

Then you should have gotten nothing

[Astil]

I'm very confused about this Jman/Astil/Prophet situation.

Jman stole from me. Claims to have gotten a power out of something he shouldn't have.

I should add I know exactly what item he stole from me.

[Jman2k3]

Then you should have gotten nothing

But I did. Because when they lifted the item I was told their power level.

[Jman2k3]

Jman stole from me. Claims to have gotten a power out of something he shouldn't have.

I should add I know exactly what item he stole from me.

Tell them, in case they don't know.

[Astil]

But I did. Because when they lifted the item I was told their power level.

...

...

...

I need a claim.

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 30 players remaining, you have until 1:00 am EDT / 5:00 am GMT on Thursday, March 25th to reach a majority of 16 votes. If a lynch is not achieved, a no lynch will be declared.

Destiny - 6 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, petrija, TakerNGN74, Jman2k3, moon_lit_tears)
Jman23k - 1 (Astil)
SuperOwens - 8 (Gonvick, trypio, derek_b, GruntMark, eayragt, crayon, i effin rule, Tha Black Phenom)

[Astil]

Tell them, in case they don't know.

I'd rather not.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Gah, interesting exchange this is.

But I did. Because when they lifted the item I was told their power level.

Power level? Was it not just "over 9000"?

[crayon]

By the by, this post probably just got me night killed.

Just saw this, and I;m going to put it out there right now, that if anyone is thinking of a night kill for Astil, or I guess me, due to supposed knowledge of the theme, have a sit back and think about where d_w_w's interest (and therefore character focus) truly lies. From what I can gather, he knows a bit about the major series characters (and a few surprising ones if my person is any indication), but he definitely seems to be pro-comic.

What I'm saying is that anime knowledge is likely going to be a lot less important than comic book knowledge, given that that is where I expect most of the fake claims to come from, as well as where most of the true character assignments will come from.

[Astil]

I'd rather not.

Actually I mine as well.

It was a large turtle shell.

[Jman2k3]

Gah, interesting exchange this is.



Power level? Was it not just "over 9000"?

Yep and usually in comics only god-like beings pocess that much power.

[Astil]

I am Master Roshi, Justice Aligned Turtle Hermit


Now, Jman, if you will so we can move past this and onto other targets.

[crayon]

It kind of does. I stole an item from you. If I was someone like Rogue, or Peter Petrelli, hell even Mimic I wouldn't have copied your whole ability instead of part.

Jman, are you interested in machinary or technology by any chance?

[Jman2k3]

...

...

...

I need a claim.

How many female thiefs can you think of?

[i effin rule]

Actually I mine as well.

It was a large turtle shell.

It'sa you?

[Antithesis]

Actually I mine as well.

It was a large turtle shell.

So the Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles are in the game as well?

[Astil]

It'sa you?

No. Sadly.

[i effin rule]

How many female thiefs can you think of?

The dead one comes to mind.

[Astil]

So the Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles are in the game as well?

No. Sadly.

[Antithesis]

How many female thiefs can you think of?

Aside from Catwoman. Black Cat and maybe Black Widow (though she's more of a spy).

[Jman2k3]

The dead one comes to mind.

I'm her doppleganger in another universe. If you can't figure that I;ll post.

[GruntMark]

The dead one comes to mind.

Yeah.

Thats the first one I would have come up with.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Actually I mine as well.

It was a large turtle shell.

Hmmm... Intriguing.

Jman's claim... It'sa bit of a stretch...

[crayon]

It'sa you?

I loled

[Antithesis]

I'm her doppleganger in another universe. If you can't figure that I;ll post.

Black Cat it is then


Damn there are alot of you Marvel peeps around.

Where's my DC folks at huh? Where yall at?

[i effin rule]

I loled

When I think large turtle shell I automatically think Mario.

[mjdgoldeneye]

It'sa you?

You got the same damn idea as me... :p

[GruntMark]

I'm her doppleganger in another universe. If you can't figure that I;ll post.

Well okay then.

[Astil]

Aside from Catwoman. Black Cat and maybe Black Widow (though she's more of a spy).

Yuffie from FF7 who is not in the mod. The chick from One Piece. Klepto chick from Azumanga.

[Jman2k3]

Well okay then.

;) :)

[Astil]

Why does a skilled thief drop the shell almost waking me up?

[crayon]

Another Marvel huh. Now, would she be justice or Marvel aligned... that is the million dollar question.

[i effin rule]

Black Cat it is then


Damn there are alot of you Marvel peeps around.

Where's my DC folks at huh? Where yall at?

Here's a question. Isn't Black Cat very similar to Venom in the Marvel Universe? Isn't she pretty much a villain with a soft spot for spidey? Not saying that Venom's tentacles get all tingly for ol' Pete, but bot Cat and Venom are some time villain / heroes.

[Jman2k3]

Why does a skilled thief drop the shell almost waking me up?

Because it's heavy duh. :p

[Jman2k3]

Here's a question. Isn't Black Cat very similar to Venom in the Marvel Universe? Isn't she pretty much a villain with a soft spot for spidey? Not saying that Venom's tentacles get all tingly for ol' Pete, but bot Cat and Venom are some time villain / heroes.

Venom is more of a villian than me. I just rob things. I don't eat brains.

[Antithesis]

Here's a question. Isn't Black Cat very similar to Venom in the Marvel Universe? Isn't she pretty much a villain with a soft spot for spidey? Not saying that Venom's tentacles get all tingly for ol' Pete, but bot Cat and Venom are some time villain / heroes.

Not really a marvel fan boy so I can't say. Little bit of SPiderman I know she's always either helping Spiderman or he's saving her.

Since Peter parker has his thing with Mary Jane, his relationship with Black Cat aint complicated like Bats/Catwoman

[Jman2k3]

I want to know if if this Venom is Eddie Brock or Mac Garland.

[i effin rule]

Not really a marvel fan boy so I can't say. Little bit of SPiderman I know she's always either helping Spiderman or he's saving her.

Since Peter parker has his thing with Mary Jane, his relationship with Black Cat aint complicated like Bats/Catwoman

I know some, but not a whole lot.


I just keep thinking of the latest Spiderman game where you basically choose whether your want to be red suit good guy and go for MJ or black suit new kingpin and go for Black Cat.

[GruntMark]

Mac Garland.

Probably.

[GruntMark]

*Gargan (according to wiki)

[Jman2k3]

*Gargan (according to wiki)

Well then, I'd trust Brock over Gargan.

[Astil]

Not really a marvel fan boy so I can't say. Little bit of SPiderman I know she's always either helping Spiderman or he's saving her.

Since Peter parker has his thing with Mary Jane, his relationship with Black Cat aint complicated like Bats/Catwoman

Actually it is what with Black Cat trying to break up his marriage and getting revenge for Peter dumping her.

Well, I guess this side trek is over. Im going to bed soon, so I'll vote for Venom.

Change Vote: superowens

[BHK1978]

Remind me to never sign up in a game with Antithesis again. You post way to much for my dense brain to take in all the conversations that you are involved in.:D

Now on to the serious portion of my post, I really don't think it is DC vs. Marvel. My character is from one of those universes and not aligned with a specific universe, I am just justice aligned.

[Jman2k3]

Remind me to never sign up in a game with Antithesis again. You post way to much for my dense brain to take in all the conversations that you are involved in.:D

He does it cause he knows you're a Yankees fan. :p

[BHK1978]

He does it cause he knows you're a Yankees fan. :p

Oh yeah I forgot,

Vote:Jman2k3

Just for being a Red Sox fan you deserve at least one for your way.:D

Change Vote: No Vote

[Prophet]

So, come home from the hospital, spend most of the evening playing caretaker, and whilst suffering a massive headache, I think "let me check out mafia, see what's going on ..." Good gravy!

I still want more clarity on the Prophet thing too though, there's no point in that potential lead going to waste. I'm not convinced he's on the side of good, but that's partly because I always find him to be scummy... jokesters always set off my scum senses. :)

I am not a jokester ... I'm a jovial wit. :p

Why hello there, may I interest you in joining the Bilderberg Group? Nothing fishy going on, just going to be having some discussions on the benefits of global government and putting swine flu in kids cereal ;)

Mmmm, flu-ios! (Now I get more serious.)

Still, it's fishy that Prophet hasn't turned up at all since putting out his little piece of information, as if he's trying to avoid further questions while Destiny gets lynched. I definately have my eye in that direction.

I saw this mentioned twice, and while I do understand when someone has their name mentioned as a potential threat, them not appearing does raise a small red flag. However ...

Oh, I should make it known, while I'm thinking about it, that for the next two days, my activity level is gonna downward spiral. I get the honor of taking my brother to the doctor tomorrow for a check up, to make sure everything is okay for me to take him to the hospital Wednesday so they can cut him open. Huzzah!

I'll still try to check in, when I can, I just won't be overtly active for a couple of days.

I posted that in the middle of the night phase, as a safety net, in case my name came up (as it can, usually from Derek's reasons. I tend to try to be the funny guy, which makes people suspicious of my motives.) My lack of showing up was nothing more than ill-timed events coinciding. And before I logged off, I did my best to address concerns raised about me.

/waves to Prophet

*Waves!*

Yeah I saw that too. Figured he was catching up.

It's like my name shows up at the bottom of the list in neon lights. :p I was catching up ... 12 pages, good grief.

Some other odds and ends thoughts that arose from my reading.

The Venom claim has be torn. My first assumption would've been the black suit wearing badass who tormented Peter Parker, and was subsequently ruined in a movie, with false promises of what was to come! (Still bitter about that. :p) However, given the questionable nature of my own character, I'd be remissed to simply dismiss it as an impossibility. And although lynching may lead to answers, it could simply open more questions with more circle running to follow the next day. Not sure an info lynch is the best bet, at this juncture, especially with people being silenced left and right, and our vote numbers being affected by it.

Still have no clue how Jman got a "reading" off a shell. Baffling. (Not that I doubt the said result ... I just don't get how this shell works. Never heard of the owner, though, so that could be why. lol)

I'm also a bit perplexed with two thieves (as it appears to me) being in the game. Unless with the Marvel/DC alliances, they're mirror factions, which could definitely lead to some interesting events down the line.

[Antithesis]

Actually it is what with Black Cat trying to break up his marriage and getting revenge for Peter dumping her.

Well, I guess this side trek is over. Im going to bed soon, so I'll vote for Venom.

Change Vote: superowens

Complicated might not be the right word.... Maybe nuanced is better.

Bats and Catwoman probably love each other a lot, but both know they'll never really be together in a steady relationship.

Way you described it, Black Cat's more like a Stalker chick... as you said, she got dumped. Catwoman doesn't get dumped. She goes her own way whenever she pleases...

that make sense?

[Tha Black Phenom]

I am Master Roshi, Justice Aligned Turtle Hermit


Now, Jman, if you will so we can move past this and onto other targets.

Oh, you disgust me! *slap*

[crayon]

I have to admit.. even I don't really know what the deal is with the turtle or why it would allow the user to get power level readings from it. Very strange item.

TBP, I guess we can assume that you are a female? :P

[d_w_w]

Day phase is over.

... right?

/tired... so tired.

[d_w_w]

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png

Day 3

Once again, Mafia-Ville was busy with activity. Accusations were made, though nothing came of them. As night came, the crowds again dispersed.

One person, however, did not head back to her room. This faceless woman sulked in the corner.

She was miserable. And she just wasn't sure...

Last night... was... Suddenly, it all made sense to her. The hole wasn't in the center of being, it was in her chest.

Slowly, Destiny faded into nothingness.

This ghastly image hastened the retreat from the town square. One person, however, was not allowed to retreat. The man with a gun just shook his head and pointed his pistol in the direction of the jailhouse.

No lynch was achieved.

Destiny is dead. She was Anonymiss, Justice Aligned Woman Without a Name or Face

Prophet has been arrested, placed in jail, and currently is not allowed to speak in the thread.

Jaded and Nedew have been released from the hospital and are allowed to talk.

[d_w_w]

It is now night phase 3. You have until 1 am EDT / 5 am GMT on Friday, March 26th to send in your night PMs. If your night abilities are optional and you are not going to use an ability, go ahead and let us know that too. Please send your pms to both mods:

d_w_w; Imarevenant

[i effin rule]

Looks like there wasn't a bus driver, just a delayed death?

[crayon]

Very strange death. Who the hell has that kind of power?

[Nedew]

CHRIST I hate being silenced with a passion. Being unable to speak just makes you want to speak all the more. At least my hint(s) were picked up, even if one of those who picked it up ploughed through the wall and nearly killed me...

Destiny being dead is a relief, simple as. We can finally put it behind us, though right up until i read that i was convinced he was scum. A bad game from him.

Jman couldn't come off scummier if he tried. He's got a knack for that, see him openly claiming trainer in Pokemon.

Naturally, since he ok'd me, i can ok SO. Though obviously, if there's any suspicion over him (which the 8 votes on him attest there to be), there's suspicion on me, and only the death of either of us can 100% clear that. For me at least, it's a townie almost certainly confirmed.

Finally, GOD IT'S GOOD TO SPEAK AGAIN.

[Nedew]

Very strange death. Who the hell has that kind of power?

I have a feeling it was to do with his name being said more than someone doing it to him.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Well, that solves that and we didn't even have to lynch anybody...

Good night, all.

[mjdgoldeneye]

CHRIST I hate being silenced with a passion. Being unable to speak just makes you want to speak all the more.

The irony... I can't contain it... :p

[crayon]

I have a feeling it was to do with his name being said more than someone doing it to him.

Ah, that might explain why he didn't originally didn't want anyone making it common knowledge who exactly he was in the first place, iirc

[GruntMark]

Destiny is dead. She was Anonymiss, Justice Aligned Woman Without a Name or Face



I am so completely shocked.

[Nedew]

Ah, that might explain why he didn't originally didn't want anyone making it common knowledge who exactly he was in the first place, iirc

Bingo.

The irony... I can't contain it... :p

You being modkilled in Futurama means you deserve everything that happened to you :p I did love Glot's idea of repeatedly silencing PP to 'confirm whether he was paranoid or not'. Or, y'know, shut PP up :p

[Antithesis]

Never seen people openly relieved at a townie death before. Well, outside of scum boards anyway. :D

Now thats Destiny's alignment is settled. Wasn't it Takerngn that just jumped on his bandwagon earlier?

[GruntMark]

I have a feeling it was to do with his name being said more than someone doing it to him.

Im like 98% sure it was Glotnot who said it first.

[i effin rule]

It specifically referenced last night and things being made "clear" or some such.

[GruntMark]

Never seen people openly relieved at a townie death before. Well, outside of scum boards anyway. :D

Now thats Destiny's alignment is settled. Wasn't it Takerngn that just jumped on his bandwagon earlier?

I think so.

Also Trypio has been all about it. Dont remember him saying much else about anything.

Also kinda you. ;)

[Nedew]

Now thats Destiny's alignment is settled. Wasn't it Takerngn that just jumped on his bandwagon earlier?

TakerNG74 (the man who gets offended at jokes), yeah. And Jman2k3 of course.

[Antithesis]

I think so.

Also Trypio has been all about it. Dont remember him saying much else about anything.

Also kinda you. ;)

Me? The same me who eventually said I found Destiny's story believable enough to remove my vote?

The same me who's been on about a much different subject the last ten pages or so...

that me? :D

[Nedew]

Me? The same me who eventually said I found Destiny's story believable enough to remove my vote?

The same me who's been on about a much different subject the last ten pages or so...

that me? :D

Well the Destiny lynch was losing it's momentum, who's to say you wouldn't try and get another going? ;)

[GruntMark]

TakerNG74 (the man who gets offended at jokes), yeah.

I found the offense funnier than the joke. Poor Banger. He's a pretty cool dude.

[Antithesis]

Well the Destiny lynch was losing it's momentum, who's to say you wouldn't try and get another going? ;)

Its night time now and I appreciate you two trying to make me appear scummy so I'll survive. I think its sweet really.

Just don't go overboard with it, or I'll start thinking you guys haven't been reading along. :cool:

[Tha Black Phenom]

Wow. Well, I'd assume it was something.. Destiny said which resulted into it? Hmm. eh, crap.

Either way, upside is we won't have to worry about him cooperating with us or not anymore, one would even wonder if he would divulge who he targeted at every twilight. Still, sucks to lose a hider.

[Antithesis]

I see taker is reading along.

What do you think about Destiny dying and turning up Justice aligned Mr. Taker?

[Antithesis]

I see taker is reading along.

What do you think about Destiny dying and turning up Justice aligned Mr. Taker?

After browsing your Profile I guess you like hitting your refresh button.

That's what I guess.

[Antithesis]

And off to post to your diary.

Oh well

Gnight all

[BHK1978]

And off to post to your diary.

Oh well

Gnight all

I thought I meta-gamed a lot, I have nothing on you!:D

[Nedew]

I thought I meta-gamed a lot, I have nothing on you!:D

All's fair in scum and war.

[crayon]

Are you a hundred percent that SuperOwens is justice aligned, Newdew? The whole thing seems suspect, and I don't know how getting attacked by him could neccessarily put him in the clear

[Nedew]

Are you a hundred percent that SuperOwens is justice aligned, Newdew? The whole thing seems suspect, and I don't know how getting attacked by him could neccessarily put him in the clear

Well, you can never be 100% 'til you're looking at their corpse swinging from the rope. But he did say he had the silencing/investigating ability (much like Glot in Futurama), though i believe he said it was a one-shot too. And he said i was 'good to go', so there you go.

I'm as certain as you can be in mafia.

[Nedew]

While i'm here... Newdew. Is this a freakin' in-joke now? Can nobody spell my name!? :p