[GAME THREAD]: OVER 9000-verse Mafia!

[BHK1978]

While i'm here... Newdew. Is this a freakin' in-joke now? Can nobody spell my name!? :p

I got to tell you I have been waiting to write: Vote: Noodles for the longest time just to see your reaction. Because I have seen you in other threads flip out when someone does not spell your name right. However, I have yet to find a reason to put your name down.:D

[SuperOwens]

Glad to see I'm still here. Didn't really expect to be, and wouldn't have blamed anyone if I wasn't.

I have no qualms helping the town with my remaining 3 abilities. Not sure how we could manage that in thread without it being glaringly obvious. We all know I only really have one useful ability left. But with the players left, its not impossible.

As for the whole Marvel/DC thing. No idea on that, nothing in my role that suggest I can be recruited but nothing to suggest I cant either.

Nedew - Sorry dude. Picked up on the hint, thought you were trying a bluff. You know what I mean when I say how distracting that has been lately.

Poor Destiny, that really was a hard role to play. Would be interesting to see who was mentioning the name first. Though, have to say, I thought that part of the role was Destiny being over cautious. Have seen roles where you cant claim before, but never a "you die if anyone mentions your characters name" role. Harsh.

[Derek B]

I am Master Roshi, Justice Aligned Turtle Hermit


Now, Jman, if you will so we can move past this and onto other targets.

I must admit, when I saw the turtle shell thing I immediately jumped towards you being Bowser... and King Coopa is in the mod. But the whole Jman thing ties you to that thing with the powerlevels and craziness...

I feel bad for not calling you scum, it's not really a mafia game unless we butt heads. Heh... butt. :p

Females Employed To nCw
Anonymiss. A woman who is probably a man.
Boxxy Babe. A woman who dresses emo.
Ecstasy AKA Darks. Another person apparently known for being emo.
Grinbitch. A rich prostitute, I believe. Also appears to be 16.
Nevada-tan. Koooonvict. Muuuusic.
Speedycat. A speedy cat.
WT Snacks. Head booker of nCw.


tl;dr I don't buy anyone from this promotion being in the game. Maybe Speedycat would be able to hide seeing as she's speedy, but I certainly don't buy the whole losing her ability for claiming.

Now that I think about it, Arrows is the worst choice for a hider......

.....EVER.

Also, at this point, I'm just going to come out and say it.

Destiny, given that you lose your ability when you reveal who you are, I'm going to assume your anonymous.

And given that you're a female, that leaves Anonymiss.

And as everyone knows...there's no such thing as Anonymiss.

Vote: Destiny

The first posts in Night 2 and Day 3 that mention Anonymiss. lprock was the first to mention the name in his list post and that was during Night 2... Glot's Day 3 post actually comes after the write up where someone is fading away, so I doubt that had anything to do with it.

All in all, I can't see anything there to incriminate anyone, which makes me sad. :(

[Nedew]

Nedew - Sorry dude. Picked up on the hint, thought you were trying a bluff. You know what I mean when I say how distracting that has been lately.

No worries, you had the chance to check, and you did. I'd do the same in your position. Glad it's made you feel able to trust me.

[Astil]

Yeah Derek, we barely got to argue so far.

Although there's still a chance of you being scum :cool:

[petrija]

I am so. Incredibly. Overwhelmed.

[crayon]

I am so. Incredibly. Overwhelmed.

In an awesome way?

[Jman2k3]

In an awesome way?

Awesome you say?????

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[moon_lit_tears]

Awesome you say?????

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I use to like you. The Miz is......a douche.

[d_w_w]

Front page stuff is updated.

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[Jman2k3]

I use to like you. The Miz is......a douche.

:( The Miz is.....Awesome!!!!!!! :p

[moon_lit_tears]

:( The Miz is.....Awesome!!!!!!! :p


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Nah this says it all!! :p

[Jman2k3]

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Nah this says it all!! :p

Miz had already beat him eight times already of course Cena had to win one eventually. :p

[moon_lit_tears]

Miz had already beat him eight times already of course Cena had to win one eventually. :p


Cena let him have a head start. :p

[BHK1978]

:( The Miz is.....Awesome!!!!!!! :p

A Red Sox fan and a fan of the Miz! I vote to lynch Jman next phase!!!:p

[moon_lit_tears]

A Red Sox fan and a fan of the Miz! I vote to lynch Jman next phase!!!:p

Well all that coming from a Yankee fan I say you both gotta go!

[Astil]

A Red Sox fan and a fan of the Miz! I vote to lynch Jman next phase!!!:p

I'm an Orioles fan and a Miz fan. Does that count?

[BHK1978]

I'm an Orioles fan and a Miz fan. Does that count?

You would get half lynched because everybody knows the Orioles have not been a serious team since the days of Boog Powell!:D

[Astil]

You would get half lynched because everybody knows the Orioles have not been a serious team since the days of Boog Powell!:D

At least we arent afraid of the words 'salary cap'.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Miz fans need to be modkilled.

get 'em, d-dub, get 'em

[BHK1978]

At least we arent afraid of the words 'salary cap'.

Only because Peter Angelos tried to keep up with Steinbrenner in the mid-1990's and soon realized that he did not have enough money to compete with the boss. Shortly there after the Orioles became the team that they are today.

[canyoudothecancan]

I didn't like how Destiny was playing but I also don't think he deserved to die.
Oh well another day another death.

[Jman2k3]

At least we arent afraid of the words 'salary cap'.

Burn!!!! :p

[BHK1978]

Burn!!!! :p

Says the fan of the team that spends the second or third amount of money in baseball!:D

[Derek B]

You would get half lynched because everybody knows the Orioles have not been a serious team since the days of Boog Powell!:D

That's not true... I had no idea they sucked cos I had no idea who they are! :p

I don't think I've posted in here for a while, thought it best to say something in case any of you missed me. :)

[d_w_w]

Mod note: So, Nedew inferred this, but I never made the official announcement.

Nedew and Jaded were released from the hospital at the end of the day phase. Both can participate in the thread.

Unless otherwise noted via PM, silenced players in this game free to return to the game after a single phase.

[Jaded]

Mod note: So, Nedew inferred this, but I never made the official announcement.

Nedew and Jaded were released from the hospital at the end of the day phase. Both can participate in the thread.

Unless otherwise noted via PM, silenced players in this game free to return to the game after a single phase.

Thanks for letting us know - I wasn't sure, so I continued resting in peace just to be on the safe side.

[masterded]

A Red Sox fan and a fan of the Miz! I vote to lynch Jman next phase!!!:p

You would get half lynched because everybody knows the Orioles have not been a serious team since the days of Boog Powell!:D

I am a Miz fan and a Twins fan (even though they built a stadium with no roof in Minnesota like fools) am I safe.

[Astil]

Burn!!!! :p

You too Red Sox fan.

[bak42]

I'm a Mariners fan but not a Miz fan, where does that put me?

[Nedew]

I have no idea what you lot are on about :(

[Wallbanger]

I am a Miz fan and a Twins fan (even though they built a stadium with no roof in Minnesota like fools) am I safe.

I think it'll be a good year to be a Twins fan. I hope I can get up to see at least one game at Target Field this summer.

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[Astil]

I have no idea what you lot are on about :(

Cricket ++

[moon_lit_tears]

Cricket ++


lol

@Derek I missed you! not!!

@BHK The O's are (unike the Miz) AWESOME!

[BHK1978]

I am a Miz fan and a Twins fan (even though they built a stadium with no roof in Minnesota like fools) am I safe.

I'm a Mariners fan but not a Miz fan, where does that put me?

Who could anyone hate the Twins? They always seem to be good, despite ownerships unwillingness to spend any money on the team. All though like you said it is foolish for them to get rid of HHH Metrodome for an un-domed stadium.

Mariners are cool as well, all though I did harbor ill will towards them for their 1995 Wild Card victory....:D

[BHK1978]

How could anyone hate the Twins? They always seem to be good, despite ownerships unwillingness to spend any money on the team. All though like you said it is foolish for them to get rid of HHH Metrodome for an un-domed stadium.

Mariners are cool as well, all though I did harbor ill will towards them for their 1995 Wild Card victory....:D

Damn it all, even now I still make stupid typos...:mad:

[masterded]

Who could anyone hate the Twins? They always seem to be good, despite ownerships unwillingness to spend any money on the team. All though like you said it is foolish for them to get rid of HHH Metrodome for an un-domed stadium.

Mariners are cool as well, all though I did harbor ill will towards them for their 1995 Wild Card victory....:D

They spent a lot on one player now. :D

[d_w_w]

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[moon_lit_tears]

'Bout 45 minutes left.

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Can we just have whoever not sending pms in modkilled? :p

[Wallbanger]

They spent a lot on one player now. :D

True dat. BHK's fantasy of seeing Joe Mauer in pinstripes will be sadly unfulfilled. :p

[BHK1978]

True dat. BHK's fantasy of seeing Joe Mauer in pinstripes will be sadly unfulfilled. :p

That would be awsome! I guess they could always trade for him in the future...

But with we all know what happend the last time they traded for a big name Twins player....

Chuck Knoblauch....:eek::mad:

[Tha Black Phenom]

Can we just have whoever not sending pms in modkilled? :p

Well I know where my unblockable night kill is going.

[masterded]

That would be awsome! I guess they could always trade for him in the future...

But with we all know what happend the last time they traded for a big name Twins player....

Chuck Knoblauch....:eek::mad:

He became a failure and then when ever the Yankees played in Minnesota people tossed batteries at him. :D

[crayon]

Another 15 minutes left to see if I'll live to fight for justice I guess

[d_w_w]

Night phase is over. Write-up coming.

[masterded]

Night phase is over. Write-up coming.

Hurray

So after it is posted and I go to my bed should I watch Ed Wood, a Bruce Lee film, or Bill 7 Ted's Bogus Journey?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Once again, if I die, I didn't go anywhere.

[Astil]

Hurray

So after it is posted and I go to my bed should I watch Ed Wood, a Bruce Lee film, or Bill 7 Ted's Bogus Journey?

Clones of Bruce Lee.

[d_w_w]

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Night 3

She stood on the rooftop, oblivious to all that was going on around her. Her powers were dangerous and she risked much tonight, yet still she was determined to try to make an impact.

With her hands raised above her head, she gazed out to the city.

"Winds of destiny...let there be change!"

Energy burst from her hands and into the town.

The effects of her action were not quite as dramatic as she had hoped.


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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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A woman stared at her notes, trying to make sense of what she had learned that night.

In her universe, she was powerful and deadly. In the OVER 9000-verse, she was unable to access her powers and was limited to the use of her brain. Mind you, it was a marvelous brain. And already, it was putting together an impressive amount of information.

Still, it is a safe bet that this woman missed her powers tonight, as the massive man kicked down her door. Quickly, he backed the startled woman into a corner.

This was not what he was expected. She tried to convince him to let her go.

Everything she said made sense.

No matter.

The brute grabbed i effin rule by the wrist and effortlessly flung her through a window and to her death.


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Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 seconds more seconds later...
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She slinked along and peered through the window. And the she looked and looked some more.

There was nothing here that she could figure out how to use.

Silently, she cursed to herself, then fled away into the night, before the dwelling's resident noticed her presence.


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OVER 9000 seconds feet away...
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For a second time, this man sat awkwardly in his chair. The probability of being attacked again, in the same spot, was small. Someone would be watching, right? Very low chance of someone attacking.

Small enough probability that he'd risk being here.

After all, his deductive abilities were 72% better in this spot. The rewards were worth the risks.

He had always been a strange one. He liked to refer to himself as an outlier. Apparently, his death would be an outlier as well. For tonight, despite all of his mental reassurances to himself, he would die.

*BAM*

Nedew slumped over, bleeding from the head.

Tonight, Lady Justice would cry, for it would surely be difficult to stop the tide of evil now.

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i effin rule is dead. She was Moonstone, Dark Avengers Aligned Psychologist Posing as Ms. Marvel

Nedew is dead. He was L Lawliet, Justice Aligned Greatest Detective

Prophet has been released from jail and can now participate in the thread.

[d_w_w]

Night PMs are going to start going out now.

In the meantime.

It is now Day Phase 4. With 27 players remaining, you have until 1:30 am EDT / 5:30 am GMT on Sunday, March 28th to reach a majority of 14. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.

[i effin rule]

And to think I stayed up for this...:cool:

[Wallbanger]

Well, well, well. A red Dark Avengers alignment.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Things don't look so great for Venom now...

The Dark Avengers, so says wiki, are made up of villains acting as established heroes.

Iron Patriot = Green Goblin
Ms. Marvel = Moonstone
Hawkeye = Bullseye
Wolverine = Daken
Spider-Man = Venom
Sentry = Void

The only thing I question is why Venom would claim Venom out of all the choices available and knowing that The Dark Avengers would eventually be revealed... Maybe he's telling the truth?

Why would Venom be in the game apart from the Dark Avengers, though?

[Tha Black Phenom]

The only thing I question is why Venom would claim Venom out of all the choices available and knowing that The Dark Avengers would eventually be revealed... Maybe he's telling the truth?

Out of all the Dark Avengers, Venom is one of those that can be bought as a hero, I suppose.

Vurrry interesting outcome, milady.

[Antithesis]

Well, well, well. A red Dark Avengers alignment.

Marvel scum group? I sooo called that!

[BHK1978]

Things don't look so great for Venom now...

The Dark Avengers, so says wiki, are made up of villains acting as established heroes.

Iron Patriot = Green Goblin
Ms. Marvel = Moonstone
Hawkeye = Bullseye
Wolverine = Daken
Spider-Man = Venom
Sentry = Void

The only thing I question is why Venom would claim Venom out of all the choices available and knowing that The Dark Avengers would eventually be revealed... Maybe he's telling the truth?

Why would Venom be in the game apart from the Dark Avengers, though?

Now is it possible to have a Scum cult? Has that ever been in any game?

What I mean is that the Scum start out small and recruit town aligned people?

[Antithesis]

Now is it possible to have a Scum cult? Has that ever been in any game?

What I mean is that the Scum start out small and recruit town aligned people?

Well, you're a Marvel character, maybe you can answer.

[d_w_w]

All PMs are out. Let me know if you were expecting one and did not receive one.

[Astil]

Now is it possible to have a Scum cult? Has that ever been in any game?

What I mean is that the Scum start out small and recruit town aligned people?

VG Mafia's red scum was a mafia/cult hybrid.

I don't trust SO right now, but i'll wait for info.

[Antithesis]

ALso BHK what did you do last night?

And don't lie, I have my sources.

[BHK1978]

VG Mafia's red scum was a mafia/cult hybrid.

I don't trust SO right now, but i'll wait for info.

I was thinking maybe Venom could start out town aligned and then become a member of the mob via recriutment.

[BHK1978]

ALso BHK what did you do last night?

And don't lie, I have my sources.

It was I in the opening part of the writeup. However, to my knowledge nothing of value happend by me using my powers.

[Antithesis]

ALso BHK what did you do last night?

And don't lie, I have my sources.

I was thinking maybe Venom could start out town aligned and then become a member of the mob via recriutment.

So you can't say ya missed the question

[Prophet]

Freedom! Sweet, sweet freedom! *kisses the ground, before lighting a cigarette.* Don't know if you know this, but time in a place like Oz can change a man ... make him ... represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop guild!

Sorry, but all night silliness bottling is a bad thing for the Proph. :p

Out of all the Dark Avengers, Venom is one of those that can be bought as a hero, I suppose.

Vurrry interesting outcome, milady.

He's the only one on MJ's list that I recall ever having a heroic moment, but that said, this definitely changes perception. I find myself with more questions than answers, though, which worries me.

[Antithesis]

It was I in the opening part of the writeup. However, to my knowledge nothing of value happend by me using my powers.

Really?

[Antithesis]

Speaking of Venom/SO

BHK targetted him last night....

[Antithesis]

ALong with another person.

I'll keep that to myself for now

as a test

[BHK1978]

She stood on the rooftop, oblivious to all that was going on around her. Her powers were dangerous and she risked much tonight, yet still she was determined to try to make an impact.

With her hands raised above her head, she gazed out to the city.

"Winds of destiny...let there be change!"

Energy burst from her hands and into the town.

The effects of her action were not quite as dramatic as she had hoped.

Yes really, read it for yourself.

[Antithesis]

Yes really, read it for yourself.

Do you even know who you wound up targetteing?

[BHK1978]

Speaking of Venom/SO

BHK targetted him last night....

ALong with another person.

I'll keep that to myself for now

as a test

Do you even know who you wound up targetteing?

Yes like you said SO was the first and if you want me to say the second or if you want to say the second go ahead.

I thought both were Scum so I decided to use my powers on them.

[Antithesis]

Yes like you said SO was the first and if you want me to say the second or if you want to say the second go ahead.

I thought both were Scum so I decided to use my powers on them.

Since you targetted two folks I guess that makes you a bus driver?

Winds of Destiny... Let there be change!

[Antithesis]

So Why switch possibly scum with someone else?

Looks like an attempt to mess up investigations.

[BHK1978]

Since you targetted two folks I guess that makes you a bus driver?

Winds of Destiny... Let there be change!

Well there is no use in saying I am not.

[Antithesis]

Well there is no use in saying I am not.

Framer then?

What do you "change" for SO?

[BHK1978]

So Why switch possibly scum with someone else?

Looks like an attempt to mess up investigations.

I thought SO was Scum and I thought the other person was as well. If SO was Scum and he decided to use his power he would have killed the other person who I thought was scum.

[Antithesis]

Prophet, Jman, SO, BHK so far 3 claiming characters of possible dubious distinction.

And a Marvel scum group. I understand why there are so many Marvel characters in the game now

[Astil]

Target changer? Like my hypnotist in Lakeside.

Also a 'mountain of a man' killed c-bot, a massive man killed zeel, and a beast killed ier. Connected?

[crayon]

L dead? Ahhhh shi-
Dark Avengers faction?

SuperOwens has some serious 'splaining to do

[BHK1978]

Prophet, Jman, SO, BHK so far 3 claiming characters of possible dubious distinction.

And a Marvel scum group. I understand why there are so many Marvel characters in the game now

And just who do you "think" I am claiming? I have not even hinted yet?

[Antithesis]

Target changer? Like my hypnotist in Lakeside.

Also a 'mountain of a man' killed c-bot, a massive man killed zeel, and a beast killed ier. Connected?

My honest guess, maybe a DC scum group.

When the big guy goes to Kill IER, DWW mentions them talking and all first.

[Antithesis]

And just who do you "think" I am claiming? I have not even hinted yet?

I'd guess Storm from the Wind thing.

Though you could be Morgan leFay or the Enchantress for all I know.

[BHK1978]

I'd guess Storm from the Wind thing.

Though you could be Morgan leFay or the Enchantress for all I know.

No but my character loves the color red and would hate to live in Salem, Mass in the 1600's.

[Antithesis]

No but my character loves the color red and would hate to live in Salem, Mass in the 1600's.

Didn't she go crazy at one point and almost destroy the world?

He's hinting at Scarlet Witch for those who don't get it.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Before I go to bed, was the other person me? I'm just wondering because it feels like I'm vaguely suspicious to everyone and I'd rather just claim than have people secretly trying to get me killed...!

Then again, I can just be paranoid. :p

[BHK1978]

Didn't she go crazy at one point and almost destroy the world?

He's hinting at Scarlet Witch for those who don't get it.

I have no idea because I am not a knowledgeable comic book fan but yes that is my character.

[BHK1978]

Before I go to bed, was the other person me? I'm just wondering because it feels like I'm vaguely suspicious to everyone and I'd rather just claim than have people secretly trying to get me killed...!

Then again, I can just be paranoid. :p

No the other person was not you.

[Astil]

When the big guy goes to Kill IER, DWW mentions them talking and all first.

/nod

[Antithesis]

Before I go to bed, was the other person me? I'm just wondering because it feels like I'm vaguely suspicious to everyone and I'd rather just claim than have people secretly trying to get me killed...!

Then again, I can just be paranoid. :p

It was Petrija.

Maybe if.. IF SO is town and he used his investigation last night... according to BHK SO would have targetted Petrija

[crayon]

Before I go to bed, was the other person me? I'm just wondering because it feels like I'm vaguely suspicious to everyone and I'd rather just claim than have people secretly trying to get me killed...!

Then again, I can just be paranoid. :p

Assuming you didn't do anything last night, then?

[mjdgoldeneye]

No the other person was not you.

Alright, cool. :cool: Off for the night, then.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Assuming you didn't do anything last night, then?

No, I even said so before the write-up was posted.

[BHK1978]

It was Petrija.

Maybe if.. IF SO is town and he used his investigation last night... according to BHK SO would have targetted Petrija

Sorry I misread my role he would have targeted what Petrija targeted. I re-read what my power did after I posted.

[Antithesis]

Assuming you didn't do anything last night, then?

He didn't target anyone N1 either.

Just as SeanmcFly/You didn't target anyone N2.

Might as well spill all my beans now.

[crayon]

No, I even said so before the write-up was posted.

Ah yup. Questioning before being fully awake probably isn't a smart thing on my behalf.

[Antithesis]

Sorry I misread my role he would have targeted what Petrija targeted. I re-read what my power did after I posted.

And you stayed quiet with all that talk about Bus Drivers?

[mjdgoldeneye]

So you know, I don't target anyone ever. Things only become fun when people target me. :cool:

[Antithesis]

Did you target Arrows N2?

Target anyone N1?

[BHK1978]

And you stayed quiet with all that talk about Bus Drivers?

It is a two off power that I was actually afraid to use. I can use it one more time but it is far to unstable to use a second time.

[Astil]

For reference sake again, Arrows, Nedew and Iron Man all shot. No shooter N1.

I think Get Guy was gotten by the big guy too.

[crayon]

He didn't target anyone N1 either.

Just as SeanmcFly/You didn't target anyone N2.

Might as well spill all my beans now.

Quick question, are you female?

[crayon]

For reference sake again, Arrows, Nedew and Iron Man all shot. No shooter N1.

I think Get Guy was gotten by the big guy too.

Pushed off a building doesn't quite feel like the same killer.. could be completely off track though.

[Antithesis]

For reference sake again, Arrows, Nedew and Iron Man all shot. No shooter N1.

I think Get Guy was gotten by the big guy too.

Well we know Destiny was telling truth about character and all.

N1 Killer probably roleblocked.

Since no one as of yet has fessed up, may very well have been a scum blocker from the other group.

[BHK1978]

Did you target Arrows N2?

Target anyone N1?

No I did not target Arrows, but I did think about it. Sadly I probably could have saved him if I did.

Like I said I was not going to use the power at all, but I figured it was still at the start of the game and I thought both might be scum so I took the chance and failed. But that is the story of my life.:D

[Jman2k3]

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i effin rule is dead. She was Moonstone, Dark Avengers Aligned Psychologist Posing as Ms. Marvel


Vote: Superowens

Sorry Mac Gargan, but your scum buddy was just outted. Looks like you are wearing the Venom suit.

Things don't look so great for Venom now...

The Dark Avengers, so says wiki, are made up of villains acting as established heroes.

Iron Patriot = Green Goblin
Ms. Marvel = Moonstone
Hawkeye = Bullseye
Wolverine = Daken
Spider-Man = Venom
Sentry = Void

The only thing I question is why Venom would claim Venom out of all the choices available and knowing that The Dark Avengers would eventually be revealed... Maybe he's telling the truth?

Why would Venom be in the game apart from the Dark Avengers, though?

Venom is in the Dark Avengers. SO was trying to claim the Eddie Brock version of Venom which is not a bad strategic move, but Eddie Brock is now Anti-Venom.

[Antithesis]

I agree, I think the SO/Dark Avengers thing is just too much to overlook.

If there is a Marvel Mason group. They could have tried to recruit him, but there's no mention/hint of it in the write up, unlike when Zeel recruited me N2 to the DC heroes.

Vote: Superowens

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[Astil]

Pushed off a building doesn't quite feel like the same killer.. could be completely off track though.

ier was thrown out of a window. Its shakey, but to me it looks like we have two killers, one big, one shooter.

and now, to bed

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SuperOwens - 2 (Jman2k3, Antithesis)

[Antithesis]

ier was thrown out of a window. Its shakey, but to me it looks like we have two killers, one big, one shooter.

and now, to bed

Much easier way to tell. Except for N1, 2 people have died each night.

Obviously there's two killers. :p

[crayon]

It didn't feel right yesterday, and a Dark Avengers faction confirmed doesn't assuge my fears. And thinking about it, even if it is a recruiting thing, him coming out last yesterday as Venom would have all but garaunteed his recruitment last night.

Vote: SuperOwens

Until I hear of a better suspect, this has got to be the way

[BHK1978]

Well seeing how I used my power against him because I thought he was Scum:

Vote: SuperOwens

[Jman2k3]

I agree, I think the SO/Dark Avengers thing is just too much to overlook.

If there is a Marvel Mason group. They could have tried to recruit him, but there's no mention/hint of it in the write up, unlike when Zeel recruited me N2 to the DC heroes.

Vote: Superowens

If I'm reading this correctly, I guessing you're DC aligned and so is the rest of your heroes group. The Marvel group I don't think could recruit him because he isn't marvel aligned but Dark Avengers aligned eventhough he is a Marvel character. Unless the Dark Avengers scum group is attempting to find their members instead of starting out together. I also safe to bet that since we have a confirmed Marvel scum group there probably is a hero group out there as well probably.

[Jaded]

I quite like Venom as a hero... but not enough to buy this.

Vote: SuperOwens

[crayon]

We heard anything from Waghlon, iMac, or supermareo since this started up?

[BHK1978]

Antithesis you started off Justice Aligned and then became DC aligned?

If so then I would think that Jman is probably right about what he just posted.

[Antithesis]

If I'm reading this correctly, I guessing you're DC aligned and so is the rest of your heroes group. The Marvel group I don't think could recruit him because he isn't marvel aligned but Dark Avengers aligned eventhough he is a Marvel character. Unless the Dark Avengers scum group is attempting to find their members instead of starting out together. I also safe to bet that since we have a confirmed Marvel scum group there probably is a hero group out there as well probably.

Well I had assumed there was a Marvel Mason group, its why I didn't vote for SC last day phase.... Thing is assuming that may leave room for the Marvel Scum to fake claim now that we've seen at least some scum are Dark Avengers.

I'd argue until we know for certain, to not let any such assumption sway us either way.

[BHK1978]

We heard anything from Waghlon, iMac, or supermareo since this started up?

supermareo has posted quite a bit.

Waghlon I am not sure of.

And iMac nerver posts hence the name that Zeel gave him Ilurker.:D

[Antithesis]

Antithesis you started off Justice Aligned and then became DC aligned?

If so then I would think that Jman is probably right about what he just posted.

Probably, as I just posted, its what I assumed as well. But I am not absolutely certain about that.

If one of you Marvel characters are actually in a Mason group and want to come forward then maybe I'd think differently.

[Prophet]

Pushed off a building doesn't quite feel like the same killer.. could be completely off track though.

But the guy in the initial write up wasn't "pushed" ... he was "flung." Flinging sounds more the big guy's MO, yea?

Well we know Destiny was telling truth about character and all.

N1 Killer probably roleblocked.

Since no one as of yet has fessed up, may very well have been a scum blocker from the other group.

That would seem the likely scenario, however, that's assuming the shooter needs to go out every night. It's possible he's an every other night person, yeah? In which case it wasn't a block, just simple timing.

Not saying I believe that, but it's a possibility. Best way to know for sure is if that blocker is town, and they targetted someone night 1, they should repeat that action to know for sure. This way we're not outting someone who could potentially save lives down the road, before we need to ... if that makes sense?

[Antithesis]

Before I go to bed, was the other person me? I'm just wondering because it feels like I'm vaguely suspicious to everyone and I'd rather just claim than have people secretly trying to get me killed...!

Then again, I can just be paranoid. :p

So you know, I don't target anyone ever. Things only become fun when people target me. :cool:

You're not the PGO. Mr "paranoid"

Like I already said, I know you didn't target anyone N1

[GruntMark]

So Venom (potential Dark Avenger), with his kinda scummy role cop power, finds out exactly who Nedew is...and then the next chance they get the Dark Avengers ice him?

That about right?

Vote: SuperOwens

[Antithesis]

But the guy in the initial write up wasn't "pushed" ... he was "flung." Flinging sounds more the big guy's MO, yea?



That would seem the likely scenario, however, that's assuming the shooter needs to go out every night. It's possible he's an every other night person, yeah? In which case it wasn't a block, just simple timing.

Not saying I believe that, but it's a possibility. Best way to know for sure is if that blocker is town, and they targetted someone night 1, they should repeat that action to know for sure. This way we're not outting someone who could potentially save lives down the road, before we need to ... if that makes sense?

Shooter was out N2 and N3. Thats not every other night.

Like I said, given that, with best info at hand.. likely something happened with the Gun killer N1

[crayon]

Much easier way to tell. Except for N1, 2 people have died each night.

Obviously there's two killers. :p

So Venom (potential Dark Avenger), with his kinda scummy role cop power, finds out exactly who Nedew is...and then the next chance they get the Dark Avengers ice him?

It's highly suspect to say the least. Noodew/L vouched for Venom, because Venom said he checked out, but then if they were planning to off him anyway, there'd be no reason to lie about it

[GruntMark]

Or they targetted Comradebot.

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SuperOwens - 6 (Jman2k3, Antithesis, crayon, BHK1978, Jaded, GruntMark)

[crayon]

Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
Much easier way to tell. Except for N1, 2 people have died each night.

Obviously there's two killers.

It's highly suspect to say the least. Noodew/L vouched for Venom, because Venom said he checked out, but then if they were planning to off him anyway, there'd be no reason to lie about it

Disregard the first quote. Stupid save post to quote thing.

[Antithesis]

Or they targetted Comradebot.

Yeah forgot about that

Kinda poor odds but not improbable.

[GruntMark]

It's highly suspect to say the least. Noodew/L vouched for Venom, because Venom said he checked out, but then if they were planning to off him anyway, there'd be no reason to lie about it

Nedew is kinda new (far as I know, maybe he played way back in the day?)...at least to our games.

I dont understand why he thought Venom only beating him senseless cleared him from being scum.

[Antithesis]

Wait didn't Gonvick say IER AND SO targetted Nedew?

IER turns up scum/Dark Avenger

And SO just happens to be Venom?

[crayon]

Instead, a mountain of a man crashed through the wall behind him, dropping bricks and pieces of the building's wooden frame onto the meditating man's unsuspecting back, pinning him to the ground. The attacker finished the job very matter of factly, slamming his foot into the back of Comradebot's head, crushing his face into the ground.

Moments later, another showed up on the scene... Too late. Oh well.

This could confirm that both killers targeted him.

[Jman2k3]

Could the gun killer be Bullseye/Hawkeye?

[BHK1978]

Wait didn't Gonvick say IER AND SO targetted Nedew?

IER turns up scum/Dark Avenger

And SO just happens to be Venom?

Yes he did say that, why would they both target Nedew if they were both Scum?

I find that odd, but still not odd enough to remove my vote.

[Antithesis]

Yes he did say that, why would they both target Nedew if they were both Scum?

I find that odd, but still not odd enough to remove my vote.

Well scum were interested enough in Nedew to send IER to him.

Maybe they thought he hinted at something to make him a possible recruit?

[crayon]

Yes he did say that, why would they both target Nedew if they were both Scum?

I find that odd, but still not odd enough to remove my vote.

My concern is that even if he was justice aligned when he targeted Nedoo, if the Dark Avengers exist as a cult then surely Norman Osborne or whoever would have recruited him last night

[GruntMark]

Yes he did say that, why would they both target Nedew if they were both Scum?

I find that odd, but still not odd enough to remove my vote.

Maybe Venom is just a role blocker, and IER was the role cop who confirmed it.

Passed it off as one townie power.

[Prophet]

Shooter was out N2 and N3. Thats not every other night.

Like I said, given that, with best info at hand.. likely something happened with the Gun killer N1

I had a possible theory, but in retrospect, it probably doesn't hold as much water as I first thought. For a couple of reasons, actually. But my initial thought was that if the shooter was the character I thought he was, I could see him having to choose which day to go out, and which day he couldn't, due to a quirk about said character. But I'm not feeling as convinced as I once did about that ideal. So, unless something comes out that can reinforce my initial notion, I'm gonna have to concede that you're probably right.

Had another theory that's falling apart too ... which is of no help whatsoever. lol

[Antithesis]

Could the gun killer be Bullseye/Hawkeye?

If he's DC, my money's on Deadshot.

Though I don't know if Deadshot is in the mod or not.

If he's anime then god only knows. 1/3rd Anime is girls in tiny skirts showing their panties, anotehr 1/3 is ninja's samurai and the other third is people killing each otehr with guns.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Probably a long shot, but what I think happened is IER investigated Nedew; SO silenced him.

It doesn't look that viable though.. but role-wise it fits a bit more on paper, I would think Venom's a ruthless monster who silences/kills his targets.

Either way, I knew it :cool:

Vote: SuperOwens

[Antithesis]

Maybe Venom is just a role blocker, and IER was the role cop who confirmed it.

Passed it off as one townie power.

Yep, there ya have it.

[Jman2k3]

If he's DC, my money's on Deadshot.

Though I don't know if Deadshot is in the mod or not.

If he's anime then god only knows. 1/3rd Anime is girls in tiny skirts showing their panties, anotehr 1/3 is ninja's samurai and the other third is people killing each otehr with guns.

Or it could be Jason Todd as Gatman/Red Hood.

[Prophet]

Or it could be Jason Todd as Gatman/Red Hood.

Ahhh, Jason Todd again! He haunts me! lol

Now my comic recollection can be a bit fuzzy, but did Bullseye use guns?

[crayon]

If he's anime then god only knows. 1/3rd Anime is girls in tiny skirts showing their panties, anotehr 1/3 is ninja's samurai and the other third is people killing each otehr with guns.

I probably wouldn't be much use guessing one DC gunman from another, but if it's an anime gunman I've got better odds. (You also forgot the category of ninja girls in tiny skirts that wield guns)

[Antithesis]

I probably wouldn't be much use guessing one DC gunman from another, but if it's an anime gunman I've got better odds. (You also forgot the category of ninja girls in tiny skirts that wield guns... while showing their panties.)

Fixed

[Jman2k3]

Ahhh, Jason Todd again! He haunts me! lol

Now my comic recollection can be a bit fuzzy, but did Bullseye use guns?

Before he became "Hawkeye" yes. He could virtually kill you with anything. My favorite was in the Daredevil movie where he killed an old lady on a plane with a peanut lol.

[crayon]

Before he became "Hawkeye" yes. He could virtually kill you with anything. My favorite was in the Daredevil movie where he killed an old lady on a plane with a peanut lol.

"Favorite" and "the Daredevil movie" are two phrases that I didn't think I'd hear within the same sentence

[Jman2k3]

"Favorite" and "the Daredevil movie" are two phrases that I didn't think I'd hear within the same sentence

Bullseye is what made that movie...along with Jennifer Garner lol.

[Waghlon]

We heard anything from Waghlon, iMac, or supermareo since this started up?

Ive been doing the occasional loud thinking. I wont really be useful until we start finding scum and cult thats not Marvel and DC.

[Waghlon]

If he's DC, my money's on Deadshot.
1/3rd Anime is girls in tiny skirts showing their panties, anotehr 1/3 is ninja's samurai and the other third is people killing each otehr with guns.

Wrong, one-third of anime is schoolgirls, one-third is excessive violence and the last third is excessive violence and schoolgirls.

Or at least thats what people try to claim...

[crayon]

Ive been doing the occasional loud thinking. I wont really be useful until we start finding scum and cult thats not Marvel and DC.

Interesting... any greater indication what other kind of scum might exist, or is it just a broad everything non-marvel/dc fits in the same bucket?

[Waghlon]

but if it's an anime gunman I've got better odds.

Without having the mod to reference right now, there's no Hellsing characters in it right? That would account for circa 90% of the anime gunmen worth mentioning in this thread :p

[crayon]

Without having the mod to reference right now, there's no Hellsing characters in it right? That would account for circa 90% of the anime gunmen worth mentioning in this thread :p

There is most definitely hellsing characters in it. They would be a worry, but then again Iscariot is obstentially for justice at the end of the day.

[Waghlon]

Interesting... any greater indication what other kind of scum might exist, or is it just a broad everything non-marvel/dc fits in the same bucket?

Well, for what ill be useful for, should we find it:

Hmm...

Lets just stick with Street Fighter, Naruto and the cutesie OS'es filled with brief one-character-memory (tm) of other shows and promotions and whatever in the mod.

[eayragt]

It seems quite intensive, but it makes sense that the Dark Avengers had suspicions over Nedew so silenced him so he couldn't give any results, and role copped him, to make sure. It does kind of suggest that either the Dark Avengers have limited powers (otherwise surely they would have just killed him?), or have a possible recruit (again must be limited to either certain people or limited number of recuits otherwise they'd have just have recruited him). Now whether it was actually the Dark Avengers that killed off Nedew is up for debate.

Obviously he's going to have difficulty shedding any light unless he admits to beign Dark Avenger aligned, but I'd like SuperOwens on this.

[GruntMark]

It seems quite intensive, but it makes sense that the Dark Avengers had suspicions over Nedew so silenced him so he couldn't give any results, and role copped him, to make sure. It does kind of suggest that either the Dark Avengers have limited powers (otherwise surely they would have just killed him?), or have a possible recruit (again must be limited to either certain people or limited number of recuits otherwise they'd have just have recruited him). Now whether it was actually the Dark Avengers that killed off Nedew is up for debate.

Obviously he's going to have difficulty shedding any light unless he admits to beign Dark Avenger aligned, but I'd like SuperOwens on this.

Keep in mind whoever killed Nedew also offed Arrows.

Its possible they were just trying to cover all their (potential) bases over a two night span.

[SuperOwens]

Vote: Superowens

Sorry Mac Gargan, but your scum buddy was just outted. Looks like you are wearing the Venom suit.



Venom is in the Dark Avengers. SO was trying to claim the Eddie Brock version of Venom which is not a bad strategic move, but Eddie Brock is now Anti-Venom.

You will have to refresh my memory on that one. I never claimed to be Eddie Brock, or this Gargan character. I claimed to be venom. Think my role title says it all.

Well seeing how I used my power against him because I thought he was Scum:

Vote: SuperOwens

Hmm, Not sure I buy this. You said in the last phase that you could see the claim being true. Not sure if you had a vote on me at all? You sure your not part of this dark alliance group?

I didn't go out last night, so no idea what happened with this bus, but switching with Pet seems odd.

You guys have hit the nail on the head. If I was in the alliance scum group, why claim Venom?

As for the Nedew thing, I was trying to be cagey but it would have been obvious to scum what role he had. Just needed to read through his posts. Taking him out is another way of making me look scummy as hell.

I'd like to hear from Gon, I'm sure he would have taken a look at Nedew again last night, and then we have a killer.

[iMac]

Apologies to all, have been really slack with regards to being involved in this game. Hopefully I'm not the guy dee_dub_dub is looking to replace. :o

The SO angle is v. interesting. Good point made with regards to why he would claim Venom.

But yeah, it seems a good way to go...

Vote: SuperOwens

[trypio]

SO is probably a Dark Avenger. Wa can't take the risk of letting Venom live. If he's not already part of them he'll probably be recruitable by them anyway.

vote: SuperOwens

[GruntMark]

Change Vote: No Vote

I'd like to hear from Gon. If he happens to have Nedew's killer, then we can lynch one and jail the other tonight.

[Derek B]

My vote will join in on SuperOwens later... his abilities aren't exactly great from a town point of view and his character is part of an identified scum group. It's the noose for him.

But there's no point in rushing things when we've got so long to actually talk through some other things.

@BHK: Could you clarify what your ability does? I just want to make sure I've got it right in my head, and your changing story/misunderstanding has muddied the waters a bit.

@Jman/Astil: What exactly does a reading of Over 9000 mean? Does it mean scum? Town? That someone is powerful? That they belong in the mod? That they can get high scores on Ms Pac-Man? Some clarification there would be nice for those of us (me :p) who seem a little confused by it.

I have being weak on the theme of a game, means I'm always a step behind everyone else on some important stuff. :(

[gonvick]

You guys have hit the nail on the head. If I was in the alliance scum group, why claim Venom?

Perhaps you couldn't think of a better fake claim for someone described as a "monster" and "terrifying creature". Also if your plan was to prove yourself by displaying claimed abilities it could be a problem to claim someone else as they could show up in an obvious Venom-like manner.

As for the Nedew thing, I was trying to be cagey but it would have been obvious to scum what role he had. Just needed to read through his posts. Taking him out is another way of making me look scummy as hell.

Yeah, I'm sure they would have liked to at least roleblock him on the night he was able to use his ability. Maybe investigate him as well, just to make sure he was worth going after?

I'd like to hear from Gon, I'm sure he would have taken a look at Nedew again last night, and then we have a killer.

Indeed I did. Unfortunately I didn't see who the killer was. Could be I was roleblocked, I'm not exactly sure. My PM is unclear as to why I failed.

Anyone been roleblocked and received a result that explicitly said so?

[canyoudothecancan]

Its pretty obvious that when the dark avengers are in this game then Venom kinda of has to be.

Vote: Superowens

[eayragt]

@BHK: Could you clarify what your ability does? I just want to make sure I've got it right in my head, and your changing story/misunderstanding has muddied the waters a bit.


Actually BHK, I think it'd be better for you to keep stum about that until we need to know (and I don't think we do on this occasion). But after a slight misunderstanding on your role in HOST (and we've all misread roles before), I think it's a good idea that at least you get your head around what your role does.

You will have to refresh my memory on that one. I never claimed to be Eddie Brock, or this Gargan character. I claimed to be venom. Think my role title says it all.



Hmm, Not sure I buy this. You said in the last phase that you could see the claim being true. Not sure if you had a vote on me at all? You sure your not part of this dark alliance group?

I didn't go out last night, so no idea what happened with this bus, but switching with Pet seems odd.

You guys have hit the nail on the head. If I was in the alliance scum group, why claim Venom?

As for the Nedew thing, I was trying to be cagey but it would have been obvious to scum what role he had. Just needed to read through his posts. Taking him out is another way of making me look scummy as hell.

I'd like to hear from Gon, I'm sure he would have taken a look at Nedew again last night, and then we have a killer.

The reason to claim Venom was quite simple - you weren't exactly pictured as a sweet innocent girl in the write up. Let's just say that your claim options were limited (especially as if you are Dark Avenger aligned you would have wanted to take pressure off IER). Venom's still not the worst of choices, given that most others were probaly just worse.

However, if we've got nothing on the killer of Nedew, we should continue on the line that we should have been more aggressive on last night.

Vote: SuperOwens

[gonvick]

No I did not target Arrows, but I did think about it. Sadly I probably could have saved him if I did.

Like I said I was not going to use the power at all, but I figured it was still at the start of the game and I thought both might be scum so I took the chance and failed. But that is the story of my life.:D

If you thought SO was scum when you targeted him in the night phase, why didn't you vote to lynch him in the day phase when you had the chance?

[Derek B]

Actually BHK, I think it'd be better for you to keep stum about that until we need to know (and I don't think we do on this occasion). But after a slight misunderstanding on your role in HOST (and we've all misread roles before), I think it's a good idea that at least you get your head around what your role does.

With the information out there in garbled form, why would you be against clarification of what the ability does? Especially since he's already said it's volatile enough that he won't risk doing it again. Having clear information out there is important, having garbled information is harmful.

On an unrelated note, I'm going to be largely unable to do much for the next 3 days as I've actually managed to net myself some extra hours at work, will be watching Wrestlemania live and will be spending time with the wench. That's not going to leave me a lot of time to be on the forums and even less time to actually catch up and meaningfully post.

And now, I'm heading off to today's work... I totally can't be bothered today, it's going to be one of those days. :(

[SuperOwens]

Perhaps you couldn't think of a better fake claim for someone described as a "monster" and "terrifying creature". Also if your plan was to prove yourself by displaying claimed abilities it could be a problem to claim someone else as they could show up in an obvious Venom-like manner.

Yeah, I'm sure they would have liked to at least roleblock him on the night he was able to use his ability. Maybe investigate him as well, just to make sure he was worth going after?

Indeed I did. Unfortunately I didn't see who the killer was. Could be I was roleblocked, I'm not exactly sure. My PM is unclear as to why I failed.

Anyone been roleblocked and received a result that explicitly said so?

Annoying, leaves me in a tight spot then.:p

I claimed Venom, because its my role. I have no idea who else could be used with that description, as I haven't checked. My plan hasn't been to prove myself with abilities, although I could.

The plan was to prove myself through investigation. Now Anti has said that I was targeted by 2 people last night. One was BHK and the other he has stayed quiet on. I can only hope that was an investigator, but it could have been a number of roles.

I'd play it different. Nedew was hinting at being an FI. He would have gone straight away if I was part of a scum group. wouldnt bother investigating him. Also, If im scum, I'm going to be really carefull about questions thrown my way, I wouldn't have been as belligerent as I was to your role.

I had no idea IER targeted Nedew the same night as me, If I'm in his group I would have. I noted your questions and vote on him, so I would know your a watcher.


Its pretty obvious that when the dark avengers are in this game then Venom kinda of has to be.

Vote: Superowens

I'm not denying venom is in the game :D

If you thought SO was scum when you targeted him in the night phase, why didn't you vote to lynch him in the day phase when you had the chance?

I'd like an answer to this, because to me it looks like BHK was saying he believed my claim the phase before.

[eayragt]

With the information out there in garbled form, why would you be against clarification of what the ability does? Especially since he's already said it's volatile enough that he won't risk doing it again. Having clear information out there is important, having garbled information is harmful.


Because I don't think we need to understand it today - I don't think it will make any difference to our actions. However, knowing how the ability works could affect scum actions tonight, so I'm happy if there's doubt, possibly leaving to overcaution, or even a mis-step.

[petrija]

It was Petrija.

Maybe if.. IF SO is town and he used his investigation last night... according to BHK SO would have targetted Petrija

Well. I'm okay.

No I did not target Arrows, but I did think about it. Sadly I probably could have saved him if I did.

Like I said I was not going to use the power at all, but I figured it was still at the start of the game and I thought both might be scum so I took the chance and failed. But that is the story of my life.:D

,,,Why exactly did you think I was scum?

[gonvick]

The plan was to prove myself through investigation. Now Anti has said that I was targeted by 2 people last night. One was BHK and the other he has stayed quiet on. I can only hope that was an investigator, but it could have been a number of roles.

Scum almost always say they want to be cleared through investigation, except for the cases when they claim miller. That way they can at least out the cop to help their team. And it sort of gives them away if they say that they don't want to be investigated.


I'd play it different. Nedew was hinting at being an FI. He would have gone straight away if I was part of a scum group. wouldnt bother investigating him. Also, If im scum, I'm going to be really carefull about questions thrown my way, I wouldn't have been as belligerent as I was to your role.

And of course your response to those hints were to roleblock him the first chance he had to use the ability. Because apparently the chances of it being some kind of bluff were so high that it overcame the chances of finding a killer earlier. Still can't wrap my head around that one.

As for how you'd play it, I doubt Venom would be the Don of that group so it wouldn't necessarily be your call. If your group picked up on the hint, the town doc might have as well. Roleblock works well enough in that scenario.

I had no idea IER targeted Nedew the same night as me, If I'm in his group I would have. I noted your questions and vote on him, so I would know your a watcher.

As I recall, I didn't ask IER about night 2 at all. I asked him if anything happened to him on Night 1.

I started with you by asking about Night 1 as well. In fact, it wasn't until I mentioned Night 2 that you started getting all reluctant and wanted info from me instead. Wouldn't have been unreasonable for you to think my info was based on Night 1 and I was overreaching in my conclusions. In which case lying would be the way to go. Especially if your fall back plan was to claim you lied because you have a questionable character.

Personally, I think your play fits much better for scum than town. And even if you were telling the truth, the best case scenario seems to be that you'll eventually be scum. I can't see the setup being such that there's a Dark Avengers group that has no way of having Venom on it.

[Antithesis]

Annoying, leaves me in a tight spot then.:p

I claimed Venom, because its my role. I have no idea who else could be used with that description, as I haven't checked. My plan hasn't been to prove myself with abilities, although I could.

The plan was to prove myself through investigation. Now Anti has said that I was targeted by 2 people last night. One was BHK and the other he has stayed quiet on. I can only hope that was an investigator, but it could have been a number of roles.
I'd play it different. Nedew was hinting at being an FI. He would have gone straight away if I was part of a scum group. wouldnt bother investigating him. Also, If im scum, I'm going to be really carefull about questions thrown my way, I wouldn't have been as belligerent as I was to your role.

I had no idea IER targeted Nedew the same night as me, If I'm in his group I would have. I noted your questions and vote on him, so I would know your a watcher.




I'm not denying venom is in the game :D



I'd like an answer to this, because to me it looks like BHK was saying he believed my claim the phase before.

No.

I said BHK targetted two people. When I saw one of them was you, I questioned him.

BHK says his ability would make you target Petrija's target. But if you didn't target anyone it wouldn't matter I suppose.

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 4. With 27 players remaining, you have until 1:30 am EDT / 5:30 am GMT on Sunday, March 28th to reach a majority of 14. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.

SuperOwens - 10 (Jman2k3, Antithesis, crayon, BHK1978, Jaded, Tha Black Phenom, iMac, trypio, canyoudothecancan, eayragt)

[Antithesis]

Before SO gets lynched, can we spare some time for Takerngn to maybe explain his vote on Destiny.

Maybe even talk about himself a little bit.

[masterded]

Before SO gets lynched, can we spare some time for Takerngn to maybe explain his vote on Destiny.

Maybe even talk about himself a little bit.

I was going to vote now but I will hold off my vote until late tonight for this.

[Astil]

Derek, power level just reads how strong a dude is.

[BHK1978]

If you thought SO was scum when you targeted him in the night phase, why didn't you vote to lynch him in the day phase when you had the chance?

Okay I play this game very paranoid. I constantly go back and forth on my opinion. The last day phase I was willing to go with what SO was saying. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt so to speak.

However, after thinking it over and reading the conversation that progressed throughout the day phase and into the night phase, I thought it over and thought, "When have I ever seen Venom as a good guy?"

Now I am not a hardcore comic book reader so my Venom knowledge is limited to him always being a bad guy. Hence the flip flop in opinion.


,,,Why exactly did you think I was scum?

You did not give a reason for placing your vote, and when someone called you on it you pretty much said you did not have to justify your vote. It seemed like a bit of an over reaction considering it was just a simple question. Almost as if you had something to hide.

[Waghlon]

Derek, power level just reads how strong a dude is.

And its. Always. Over. Nine. THOUSAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!




Sorry about that. I just had to do it :o

[Waghlon]

But hey, to actually post something constructive, i agree we keep a foot on SO's throat while questioning Taker. Im pretty sure we got enough time to pull that off.

[Zeel1]

And iMac nerver posts hence the name that Zeel gave him Ilurker.:D

Nah, it's just iLurk. :p

I would put myself up for replacement, but I probably know too much to be allowed back in.

[BHK1978]

Nah, it's just iLurk. :p

I would put myself up for replacement, but I probably know too much to be allowed back in.

Thanks for posting the fact that I did not spell never right....:o

[Derek B]

But hey, to actually post something constructive, i agree we keep a foot on SO's throat while questioning Taker. Im pretty sure we got enough time to pull that off.

I would be interested in hearing anything from the following people as my notes show they have pretty much done nothing of any significance so far during this game. Lack of participation is what loses the game for the town, so piping up with something is likely in your best interests folks.

bak42
canyoudothecancan
iMac
lprock
masterded
moon_lit_tears
petrija
TakerNGN74
trypio
Waghlon

Ouch, that list is a LOT longer than I realised it was. I'm especially interested in hearing from moon_lit_tears for being so insubstantial so far in this game and canyoudothecancan for... reasons.

[moon_lit_tears]

I would be interested in hearing anything from the following people as my notes show they have pretty much done nothing of any significance so far during this game. Lack of participation is what loses the game for the town, so piping up with something is likely in your best interests folks.

bak42
canyoudothecancan
iMac
lprock
masterded
moon_lit_tears
petrija
TakerNGN74
trypio
Waghlon

Ouch, that list is a LOT longer than I realised it was. I'm especially interested in hearing from moon_lit_tears for being so insubstantial so far in this game and canyoudothecancan for... reasons.

Mr B you of all people should know by now my play style. I am generally quiet when the subject matter is out of my grasp. I am pretty much following along reading and not saying much because well I really have nothing to add.

[Waghlon]

Why am i still on that list? I almost contributed no less than 12 hours ago.

*insulted*

[iMac]

Nah, it's just iLurk. :p

I would put myself up for replacement, but I probably know too much to be allowed back in.

Oh yeah? Well see you, you're just a...

Shut up!

:p

Look surely I've played enough of these games by here that you lot know I prefer to stay quiet at the begining of games. Take a look back at the last few games I've played. I usually make my presnece felt once the field has narrowed a bit. :o

[bak42]

I would be interested in hearing anything from the following people as my notes show they have pretty much done nothing of any significance so far during this game. Lack of participation is what loses the game for the town, so piping up with something is likely in your best interests folks.

bak42
canyoudothecancan
iMac
lprock
masterded
moon_lit_tears
petrija
TakerNGN74
trypio
Waghlon

Ouch, that list is a LOT longer than I realised it was. I'm especially interested in hearing from moon_lit_tears for being so insubstantial so far in this game and canyoudothecancan for... reasons.

I haven't posted much due to a combination of being busy with other things (which made it hard to just stay caught up with the thread) and just plain not having anything to say.

I will say this, at this point I don't trust SO as far as I could throw him and am willing to throw a vote down on him, but I'm holding off in the hope that we can get some info from some other people.

[d_w_w]

Official Mod Announcement

TakerNGN74 is being replaced by MichiganHero, effective immediately.

[bak42]

Official Mod Announcement

TakerNGN74 is being replaced by MichiganHero, effective immediately.

Well, so much for Taker explaining his vote on Destiny.

[Waghlon]

So uhm... What now?

[Jman2k3]

You will have to refresh my memory on that one. I never claimed to be Eddie Brock, or this Gargan character. I claimed to be venom. Think my role title says it all.



Hmm, Not sure I buy this. You said in the last phase that you could see the claim being true. Not sure if you had a vote on me at all? You sure your not part of this dark alliance group?

I didn't go out last night, so no idea what happened with this bus, but switching with Pet seems odd.

You guys have hit the nail on the head. If I was in the alliance scum group, why claim Venom?

As for the Nedew thing, I was trying to be cagey but it would have been obvious to scum what role he had. Just needed to read through his posts. Taking him out is another way of making me look scummy as hell.

I'd like to hear from Gon, I'm sure he would have taken a look at Nedew again last night, and then we have a killer.

You didn't claim any Brock or Gargan, but since the Dark Avengers are in the game last time I checked he was one of them. :p and when you are lynched your role will probably come up like this.

SuperOwens is dead. He was Venom, Dark Avengers Aligned Psychopath Posing as Spiderman

Why claim Venom you say? Because it's a smart move. You have a 50/50 shot at getting away with the claim if people aren't familiar with the character. If Moonstone hadn't died people would have believe you are the Eddie Brock version, but when it says in the write ups a massive creature and Dark Avengers are now proven to be here then you are the Mac Gargan version. Brock always stayed the same in the comics and Gargan is the only one who augmented his body size regulary.

So uhm... What now?

Lynch Venom.

[Zeel1]

So uhm... What now?

Now you welcome MH with arms wide open, of course! Mafia is such a friendly, trusting game, after all.. :p

[Derek B]

Mr B you of all people should know by now my play style. I am generally quiet when the subject matter is out of my grasp. I am pretty much following along reading and not saying much because well I really have nothing to add.

Why am i still on that list? I almost contributed no less than 12 hours ago.

*insulted*

I haven't posted much due to a combination of being busy with other things (which made it hard to just stay caught up with the thread) and just plain not having anything to say.

I will say this, at this point I don't trust SO as far as I could throw him and am willing to throw a vote down on him, but I'm holding off in the hope that we can get some info from some other people.

Official Mod Announcement

TakerNGN74 is being replaced by MichiganHero, effective immediately.

So uhm... What now?

Everyone quoted above (replacing DWW with MichiganHero)... if you aren't going to be able to talk about the theme at all, you could contribute in other ways by talking a little about yourself so that other people can then talk about you.

This phase looks like it's going to lynch SuperOwens almost regardless of anything else, so rather than waste the rest of it with people saying "let's lynch SuperOwens" we can use that time to find further directions to move in. With what looks like two invesstigator types down we're all going to need to be more open in the thread sooner or later, so I'd like at least one of you to volunteer something about yourself that we might find interesting. Or suggest someone else that you think might be worth a look at. :)

[BHK1978]

Everyone quoted above (replacing DWW with MichiganHero)... if you aren't going to be able to talk about the theme at all, you could contribute in other ways by talking a little about yourself so that other people can then talk about you.

This phase looks like it's going to lynch SuperOwens almost regardless of anything else, so rather than waste the rest of it with people saying "let's lynch SuperOwens" we can use that time to find further directions to move in. With what looks like two invesstigator types down we're all going to need to be more open in the thread sooner or later, so I'd like at least one of you to volunteer something about yourself that we might find interesting. Or suggest someone else that you think might be worth a look at. :)

What have you said about yourself Derek? You seem happy to go all Torquemada on everyone else but what info have you given us?

[canyoudothecancan]

I'm not denying venom is in the game :D





I didn't mean it like that I met if the dark avengers are in the game then venom kinda has to be a dark avenger.

[MichiganHero]

Now you welcome MH with arms wide open, of course! Mafia is such a friendly, trusting game, after all.. :p

I've read a fair share of mafia games to know that statement is over 50% true.

[Glotnot]

If he's DC, my money's on Deadshot.

Though I don't know if Deadshot is in the mod or not.

If he's anime then god only knows. 1/3rd Anime is girls in tiny skirts showing their panties, anotehr 1/3 is ninja's samurai and the other third is people killing each otehr with guns.

Deadshot is, in fact, in the game.

But so is Deathstroke....and Deadpool, but he's irrelevant when we're talking about the king of mercenary work.

Slade > Wade

Without having the mod to reference right now, there's no Hellsing characters in it right? That would account for circa 90% of the anime gunmen worth mentioning in this thread :p

There's a ****load of Hellsing characters in it, actually. xP

You will have to refresh my memory on that one. I never claimed to be Eddie Brock, or this Gargan character. I claimed to be venom. Think my role title says it all.

You're scum.

You're pretending to not know anything about either of the major Venom's....despite being Venom.

Eddie Brock, the first Venom.

Gargan, formerly known as Scorpion, and the current Venom.

Eddie isn't evil...he just REALLY hates Spider-Man. He's been known to be a good guy.

Gargan, on the other hand, is an evil, evil, evil son of a bitch.

"Venom, or the Venom Symbiote, is a sentient alien creature with a gooey, almost liquid-like form. It requires a host, usually human, to bond around for its survival. In return the Venom creatures gives its host enhanced powers. If Venom fully bonds with its host it takes full control and the host will be taken over by the symbiote.

In effect, when the Venom Symbiote bonds with a human to form a super-villain, that new dual-life form itself is also often called Venom. The symbiote, with or without a host, is an archenemy of Spider-Man, who was the first host it merged with before its evil motives were clear. After Spider-Man rejected it, the symbiote went on to merge with other hosts and so began it's popular reign as the villain known as Venom.

-Currently merged with Macdonald "Mac" Gargan."


So yeah, the only version of Venom present in the mod is the Gargan version. It' s under "Venom Symbiote." Coincidentally, the Gargan version is also the Dark Avengers version.

And no, there's no aliases. Nor are there alternate versions of Brock.

Vote: SuperOwens

[canyoudothecancan]

I would be interested in hearing anything from the following people as my notes show they have pretty much done nothing of any significance so far during this game. Lack of participation is what loses the game for the town, so piping up with something is likely in your best interests folks.

bak42
canyoudothecancan
iMac
lprock
masterded
moon_lit_tears
petrija
TakerNGN74
trypio
Waghlon

Ouch, that list is a LOT longer than I realised it was. I'm especially interested in hearing from moon_lit_tears for being so insubstantial so far in this game and canyoudothecancan for... reasons.

Wait what reasons?
Also I don't really know what to contribute since I only have about 2 suspects of scum.

[Derek B]

What have you said about yourself Derek? You seem happy to go all Torquemada on everyone else but what info have you given us?

I've given absolutely nothing in the thread. I'm also certain I've been looked at in at least one way to determine my value to the town and I've passed whatever test that was... if I was a bad guy I'd have been called up on it with evidence by now, and the lack of that evidence given my general vocalness against the likes of Destiny is generally a sign of me being on the up and up.

Now, back to other people. Is there anything you want to share? Gender? Where are you from canonically (is that a word?)? Actions you can share? Even just people you'd like to probe for more info? We've got most of a phase and a lynch on the backburner that is almost a sure thing. We've got the luxury of time and the burden of lack of info, we can use one to get more of the other. ;)

[canyoudothecancan]

Now, back to other people. Is there anything you want to share? Gender? Where are you from canonically (is that a word?)? Actions you can share? Even just people you'd like to probe for more info? We've got most of a phase and a lynch on the backburner that is almost a sure thing. We've got the luxury of time and the burden of lack of info, we can use one to get more of the other. ;)

I've sort of made a little list in my mind on who is marvel and DC but I can't really think of anything else.

[Derek B]

Wait what reasons?
Also I don't really know what to contribute since I only have about 2 suspects of scum.

Why would I tell you my reasons. That would only give you a way out of being on my list of people on which I have... reasons. What suspects do you have... and more importantly, why?

[canyoudothecancan]

Why would I tell you my reasons. That would only give you a way out of being on my list of people on which I have... reasons. What suspects do you have... and more importantly, why?

On scum or marvel/dc?

[mjdgoldeneye]

You're not the PGO. Mr "paranoid"

Like I already said, I know you didn't target anyone N1

I wasn't claiming the PGO, but if anyone got that idea, it certainly would only help the town.

Being openly "right" should not take prevalence over being helpful. How does implying "I was able to safely target this person, he is definitely no danger to your presence!" benefit you, me, or the town?

Also, I can vote on SO if I'm needed, but can I ask that I'm not the last vote? I don't have a restriction or anything, but I don't want to get bombed.

As for if I think Venom is scum... I'm not sure. If he isn't now, he must have to be able to become scum later, so not really a loss either way. It doesn't seem logical to include an alignment consisting of maybe half a dozen characters and then make one of the more infamous characters town.

[Derek B]

Deadshot is, in fact, in the game.

But so is Deathstroke....and Deadpool, but he's irrelevant when we're talking about the king of mercenary work.

Slade > Wade



There's a ****load of Hellsing characters in it, actually. xP



You're scum.

You're pretending to not know anything about either of the major Venom's....despite being Venom.

Eddie Brock, the first Venom.

Gargan, formerly known as Scorpion, and the current Venom.

Eddie isn't evil...he just REALLY hates Spider-Man. He's been known to be a good guy.

Gargan, on the other hand, is an evil, evil, evil son of a bitch.

"Venom, or the Venom Symbiote, is a sentient alien creature with a gooey, almost liquid-like form. It requires a host, usually human, to bond around for its survival. In return the Venom creatures gives its host enhanced powers. If Venom fully bonds with its host it takes full control and the host will be taken over by the symbiote.

In effect, when the Venom Symbiote bonds with a human to form a super-villain, that new dual-life form itself is also often called Venom. The symbiote, with or without a host, is an archenemy of Spider-Man, who was the first host it merged with before its evil motives were clear. After Spider-Man rejected it, the symbiote went on to merge with other hosts and so began it's popular reign as the villain known as Venom.

-Currently merged with Macdonald "Mac" Gargan."


So yeah, the only version of Venom present in the mod is the Gargan version. It' s under "Venom Symbiote." Coincidentally, the Gargan version is also the Dark Avengers version.

And no, there's no aliases. Nor are there alternate versions of Brock.

Vote: SuperOwens

And if you want more evidence, he's claimed a Marvel character but had no idea of the Marvel/DC win conditions that have been talked about. Given that it's been seemingly confirmed that both sides would know about that if they are town, that would make Venom either an indy or scum. And since he's claimed Justice aligned, that means he he has to be scum.

But like I've said, I'm not looking to waste the rest of this phase. Scum lynch is virtually assured barring major shenanigans (*salutes the major*) so we can use this to bring the less talkative into the game and find out more information. I'm not expecting everyone to talk, some people will probably have good reason not to but I'm looking for someone to say something that will give us a direction for the future.

[Derek B]

On scum or marvel/dc?

Scum. I don't care about the Marvel/DC stuff, as long as they don't get in the way of me winning and make sure they take down scum then they can do whatever else they like.

[Jman2k3]

Deadshot is, in fact, in the game.

But so is Deathstroke....and Deadpool, but he's irrelevant when we're talking about the king of mercenary work.

Slade > Wade



There's a ****load of Hellsing characters in it, actually. xP



You're scum.

You're pretending to not know anything about either of the major Venom's....despite being Venom.

Eddie Brock, the first Venom.

Gargan, formerly known as Scorpion, and the current Venom.

Eddie isn't evil...he just REALLY hates Spider-Man. He's been known to be a good guy.

Gargan, on the other hand, is an evil, evil, evil son of a bitch.

"Venom, or the Venom Symbiote, is a sentient alien creature with a gooey, almost liquid-like form. It requires a host, usually human, to bond around for its survival. In return the Venom creatures gives its host enhanced powers. If Venom fully bonds with its host it takes full control and the host will be taken over by the symbiote.

In effect, when the Venom Symbiote bonds with a human to form a super-villain, that new dual-life form itself is also often called Venom. The symbiote, with or without a host, is an archenemy of Spider-Man, who was the first host it merged with before its evil motives were clear. After Spider-Man rejected it, the symbiote went on to merge with other hosts and so began it's popular reign as the villain known as Venom.

-Currently merged with Macdonald "Mac" Gargan."


So yeah, the only version of Venom present in the mod is the Gargan version. It' s under "Venom Symbiote." Coincidentally, the Gargan version is also the Dark Avengers version.

And no, there's no aliases. Nor are there alternate versions of Brock.

Vote: SuperOwens

Looks like you are up the creek Owens.

Interested about Deadshot. Wandering about which incarnation he may be cause that may determine his actually goodie or badness. Squad vs the Six.

Slade could be a hitman or SK I think.

I think Deadpool is more than likely a vig but I could be wrong. But who doesn't love Wade Wilson and his rambling anyways.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Yea, this seems like the clear cut thing to do: Vote: SuperOwens

[mjdgoldeneye]

I do have to ask: Why would anyone actually claim Venom? Maybe it's a double swerve, but it's still odd.

[Imarevenant]

It is now Day Phase 4. With 27 players remaining, you have until 1:30 am EDT / 5:30 am GMT on Sunday, March 28th to reach a majority of 14. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.

SuperOwens - 13 (Jman2k3, Antithesis, crayon, BHK1978, Jaded, Tha Black Phenom, iMac, trypio, canyoudothecancan, eayragt, glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero)

[MichiganHero]

Yea, this seems like the clear cut thing to do: Vote: SuperOwens

After reading up I agree

Vote:SuperOwens

[Antithesis]

Deadshot is, in fact, in the game.

But so is Deathstroke....and Deadpool, but he's irrelevant when we're talking about the king of mercenary work.

Slade > Wade



There's a ****load of Hellsing characters in it, actually. xP



You're scum.

You're pretending to not know anything about either of the major Venom's....despite being Venom.

Eddie Brock, the first Venom.

Gargan, formerly known as Scorpion, and the current Venom.

Eddie isn't evil...he just REALLY hates Spider-Man. He's been known to be a good guy.

Gargan, on the other hand, is an evil, evil, evil son of a bitch.

"Venom, or the Venom Symbiote, is a sentient alien creature with a gooey, almost liquid-like form. It requires a host, usually human, to bond around for its survival. In return the Venom creatures gives its host enhanced powers. If Venom fully bonds with its host it takes full control and the host will be taken over by the symbiote.

In effect, when the Venom Symbiote bonds with a human to form a super-villain, that new dual-life form itself is also often called Venom. The symbiote, with or without a host, is an archenemy of Spider-Man, who was the first host it merged with before its evil motives were clear. After Spider-Man rejected it, the symbiote went on to merge with other hosts and so began it's popular reign as the villain known as Venom.

-Currently merged with Macdonald "Mac" Gargan."


So yeah, the only version of Venom present in the mod is the Gargan version. It' s under "Venom Symbiote." Coincidentally, the Gargan version is also the Dark Avengers version.

And no, there's no aliases. Nor are there alternate versions of Brock.

Vote: SuperOwens

Ahh Slade. Yeah Deathstroke would fit as well. Also Tommy M, The Hitman.

But looking at the write up, it was the big quiet guy that killed IER, correct? So that would be the other group's killer. Big Guy.. maybe Solomon Grundy, Bane (doesn't really fit though) BlockBuster, Major Force, Despero...

Meaning the Marvel group has the gun user (assuming one killer isn't an SK).

Dunno Marvel well enough to come up with a possible gun user for them.

[Waghlon]

if you aren't going to be able to talk about the theme at all, you could contribute in other ways by talking a little about yourself so that other people can then talk about you.

Im going to explain you this slowly as the hints have gone above your head a few times: I have no knowlegde about Marvel or DC. I will talk when i see something in the write ups that i know stuff about. But i havent yet.




Also, hammer it baby, hammer it... Vote: SuperOwens

[Jman2k3]

I do have to ask: Why would anyone actually claim Venom? Maybe it's a double swerve, but it's still odd.

I mentioned it back a couple posts, but in short it would have been a good claim but Moonstone ruined that for him.

He could have passed off being the good guy version while still doing what he was doing before under our noses.

[Waghlon]

There's a ****load of Hellsing characters in it, actually. xP


Yeah i should have known. But i only got into Hellsing long time after i put the mod down so i had no real chance of remembering their appearance ;)

[canyoudothecancan]

Scum. I don't care about the Marvel/DC stuff, as long as they don't get in the way of me winning and make sure they take down scum then they can do whatever else they like.

Well of course Superowens is on my list for reasons I have already stated.

[Jman2k3]

Ahh Slade. Yeah Deathstroke would fit as well. Also Tommy M, The Hitman.

But looking at the write up, it was the big quiet guy that killed IER, correct? So that would be the other group's killer. Big Guy.. maybe Solomon Grundy, Bane (doesn't really fit though) BlockBuster, Major Force, Despero...

Meaning the Marvel group has the gun user (assuming one killer isn't an SK).

Dunno Marvel well enough to come up with a possible gun user for them.

Marvel scum group is more than likely Bullseye if I have to say or it's a really bad Punisher killing innocents that needs to stop.

[Derek B]

Really? We've got more than 30 hours left of the phase and you guys are rushing to end it? Have you got something against using our time constructively or something?

I mean... really?

Rly?

RLY?!

:mad: :eek: :p

[moon_lit_tears]

Everyone quoted above (replacing DWW with MichiganHero)... if you aren't going to be able to talk about the theme at all, you could contribute in other ways by talking a little about yourself so that other people can then talk about you.

This phase looks like it's going to lynch SuperOwens almost regardless of anything else, so rather than waste the rest of it with people saying "let's lynch SuperOwens" we can use that time to find further directions to move in. With what looks like two invesstigator types down we're all going to need to be more open in the thread sooner or later, so I'd like at least one of you to volunteer something about yourself that we might find interesting. Or suggest someone else that you think might be worth a look at. :)


To be honest I have no clue about the theme, I thought everyone had strong arguments about Destiny and I was suspicious of him as well. Hence the ONLY vote I have done this entire game was on him.


I do kow who Venom is because I have seen Spiderman so I know what he was. I don't think that he would be good in this game either. I would be willing to put a vote on SO but I won't do it this early because there is plenty of time to discuss things.

What have you said about yourself Derek? You seem happy to go all Torquemada on everyone else but what info have you given us?

This is Dereks play weather he is scum or town. It seems to get the town into a good spot as well.

Why would I tell you my reasons. That would only give you a way out of being on my list of people on which I have... reasons. What suspects do you have... and more importantly, why?

I agree with this.

Derek is a smart guy and plays the game in a way that doesn't allow you to squirm out if you are scum. Or if you are a silencer for the town on day 1 .:D

[Antithesis]

And if you want more evidence, he's claimed a Marvel character but had no idea of the Marvel/DC win conditions that have been talked about. Given that it's been seemingly confirmed that both sides would know about that if they are town, that would make Venom either an indy or scum. And since he's claimed Justice aligned, that means he he has to be scum.

But like I've said, I'm not looking to waste the rest of this phase. Scum lynch is virtually assured barring major shenanigans (*salutes the major*) so we can use this to bring the less talkative into the game and find out more information. I'm not expecting everyone to talk, some people will probably have good reason not to but I'm looking for someone to say something that will give us a direction for the future.



I should be clear here.

I started out Justice Aligned. No clue about a DC group but when Zeel hinted at Catwoman I did think there might be a Batman group (my character is in the Batman family so to speak, but did not start grouped with anyone as the game began).

Zeel recruited me N2, and thats when my alignment changed to DC and I learned of the extra win condition. Zeel died that night as well, so it was decided I could be the spokesman for our group.

I had assumed, given the whole "outnumber" thing that there was a Marvel mason group as well. If there was, they could have tried to recruit SO/Prophet, anyone of the million or so Marvel characters claimed already and if it didn't go through, they'd know such a claim was bogus.

But since then no one has spoken up for Marvel, and we learned some scum are Marvel aligned, I am becoming more convinced that some Marvel characters can be recruited into a scum group. Of which Venom is the most likely.

And thats assuming SO told the truth. Given that he and IER both targetted Nedew on the same night, I lean more towards thinking he may already be scum

[Derek B]

I should be clear here.

I started out Justice Aligned. No clue about a DC group but when Zeel hinted at Catwoman I did think there might be a Batman group (my character is in the Batman family so to speak, but did not start grouped with anyone as the game began).

Zeel recruited me N2, and thats when my alignment changed to DC and I learned of the extra win condition. Zeel died that night as well, so it was decided I could be the spokesman for our group.

I had assumed, given the whole "outnumber" thing that there was a Marvel mason group as well. If there was, they could have tried to recruit SO/Prophet, anyone of the million or so Marvel characters claimed already and if it didn't go through, they'd know such a claim was bogus.

But since then no one has spoken up for Marvel, and we learned some scum are Marvel aligned, I am becoming more convinced that some Marvel characters can be recruited into a scum group. Of which Venom is the most likely.

And thats assuming SO told the truth. Given that he and IER both targetted Nedew on the same night, I lean more towards thinking he may already be scum

Sorry, I may have made a bad assumption there. I assumed that all Marvel and DC folks would know about the Marvel/DC bit since it seems like it would be quite important... are you saying you had no idea before you were recruited? That would put a very different spin on the groups in my head... but would at least make the townie dynamic better than I thought.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Really? We've got more than 30 hours left of the phase and you guys are rushing to end it? Have you got something against using our time constructively or something?

I mean... really?

Rly?

RLY?!

:mad: :eek: :p

Well, I asked if I should vote and I was greeted with more evidence as to why SO was obviously scum... :p

[Antithesis]

A far better argument that Derek is scum, and one that will only become stronger as time goes by... is that he is still alive.

I dunno who's grouped with IER, but I do know IER plays the long game, with particular attention paid in doing night actions he can jsutify during the day if need be.

As for targets, IER would argue to remove power roles first. Thats why Nedew is dead now.

Dunno if there is another power player in the group, but it could be that IER was calling the shots for his group.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Well, I asked if I should vote and I was greeted with more evidence as to why SO was obviously scum... :p

Though, that being said, I didn't consider the time. I should have, but I didn't. :)

[mjdgoldeneye]

A far better argument that Derek is scum, and one that will only become stronger as time goes by... is that he is still alive.

I dunno who's grouped with IER, but I do know IER plays the long game, with particular attention paid in doing night actions he can jsutify during the day if need be.

As for targets, IER would argue to remove power roles first. Thats why Nedew is dead now.

Dunno if there is another power player in the group, but it could be that IER was calling the shots for his group.

You seem to be doing what I'm always yelled at for: Stop letting everyone know these things!

Now, certainly, Derek will be less likely to die if he's town. Now, that sounds like a good thing, but now he can cite that as a reason. If you didn't say anything, maybe 2 cycles down the line, this reasoning could have been used as evidence against him if needed.

Now, the point has been invalidated because you kind of created a scum "save point".

Now, you can ask why he's still alive, and the answer will be "Because Anti said it makes him suspicious"!

[BHK1978]

This is Dereks play weather he is scum or town. It seems to get the town into a good spot as well.

I understand that is his play style, it is just I don't trust Derek in these games since he got me in Scrubs.:D

All I am saying is there should be a bit of quid pro quo. What I mean is him and Anti hammer and hammer at everyone but both seem unwilling to give us anything about them (well Anti just did).

I trusted Derek and got burned in Scrubs so I just don't want to make that mistake again. Just because he says he is not part of the mod doesn't mean he isn't, he said the same in Scrubs and he ended up winning the game for the Mob.

[Antithesis]

Sorry, I may have made a bad assumption there. I assumed that all Marvel and DC folks would know about the Marvel/DC bit since it seems like it would be quite important... are you saying you had no idea before you were recruited? That would put a very different spin on the groups in my head... but would at least make the townie dynamic better than I thought.

Nope, no idea when I started.

As I said though given Zeel's hint and my own character, and what I thought was Arrows hinting at being Alfred... I did think there might be a Batman group of some kind early on.

Its like when BHK admitted he was either Marvel or DC and said he didn't believe the recruitment thing... its because you aren't told.

There is an original DC group though of which Zeel was an original member... whose membership I won't discuss. They recruited me.

In retrospect you cans ee why Zeel hinted at Catwoman, he was putting out there to fish for recruits.

[eayragt]

I've given absolutely nothing in the thread. I'm also certain I've been looked at in at least one way to determine my value to the town and I've passed whatever test that was... if I was a bad guy I'd have been called up on it with evidence by now, and the lack of that evidence given my general vocalness against the likes of Destiny is generally a sign of me being on the up and up.

Better write down that derek's town then :rolleyes:. Don't worry, just trying to keep you alive longer by making you look scummy :cool:.

I do have to ask: Why would anyone actually claim Venom? Maybe it's a double swerve, but it's still odd.

Because just going "I'm a big masty monster that silenced Nedew" isn't any better.

Really? We've got more than 30 hours left of the phase and you guys are rushing to end it? Have you got something against using our time constructively or something?

I mean... really?

Rly?

RLY?!

:mad: :eek: :p

They just want the phase end time to change. 'Cause it sucks at the moment.

I should be clear here.

I started out Justice Aligned. No clue about a DC group but when Zeel hinted at Catwoman I did think there might be a Batman group (my character is in the Batman family so to speak, but did not start grouped with anyone as the game began).

Zeel recruited me N2, and thats when my alignment changed to DC and I learned of the extra win condition. Zeel died that night as well, so it was decided I could be the spokesman for our group.

I had assumed, given the whole "outnumber" thing that there was a Marvel mason group as well. If there was, they could have tried to recruit SO/Prophet, anyone of the million or so Marvel characters claimed already and if it didn't go through, they'd know such a claim was bogus.

But since then no one has spoken up for Marvel, and we learned some scum are Marvel aligned, I am becoming more convinced that some Marvel characters can be recruited into a scum group. Of which Venom is the most likely.

And thats assuming SO told the truth. Given that he and IER both targetted Nedew on the same night, I lean more towards thinking he may already be scum

I'm... not so sure. Certainly an interesting set up whatever way it pans out.

[Antithesis]

You seem to be doing what I'm always yelled at for: Stop letting everyone know these things!

Now, certainly, Derek will be less likely to die if he's town. Now, that sounds like a good thing, but now he can cite that as a reason. If you didn't say anything, maybe 2 cycles down the line, this reasoning could have been used as evidence against him if needed.

Now, the point has been invalidated because you kind of created a scum "save point".

Now, you can ask why he's still alive, and the answer will be "Because Anti said it makes him suspicious"!

Could still be used as evidence... just would take someone who wasn't afraid to tangle with Derek B. :D

[moon_lit_tears]

I understand that is his play style, it is just I don't trust Derek in these games since he got me in Scrubs.:D

All I am saying is there should be a bit of quid pro quo. What I mean is him and Anti hammer and hammer at everyone but both seem unwilling to give us anything about them (well Anti just did).

I trusted Derek and got burned in Scrubs so I just don't want to make that mistake again. Just because he says he is not part of the mod doesn't mean he isn't, he said the same in Scrubs and he ended up winning the game for the Mob.

Read day one of Sunnydale. :(

Anti gave a long post about himself.

Derek doesn't give up much although I am with you on I would like to know about him. In order for that to happen the town as a whole has to get onto the wagon and pressure him.

I guess my problem is that I know he can be scum, I just tend to think the better of him all the time. :(

[Zeel1]

In retrospect you cans ee why Zeel hinted at Catwoman, he was putting out there to fish for recruits.

I was?

Oh, I mean, yeah, I was, that was exactly what I was doing, yeah.. :D

[moon_lit_tears]

I was?

Oh, I mean, yeah, I was, that was exactly what I was doing, yeah.. :D

Dead catwomen don't talk!

[eayragt]

...

Dead quotes are dangerous when they come close to revealing stuff. Even posts like that.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Could still be used as evidence... just would take someone who wasn't afraid to tangle with Derek B. :D

You know, trying to go after Derek ends in something crazy nearly every time.

You vote on him and ask him questions, and before you know it, you wake up in Argentina covered in someone else's blood having accidentally fake claimed Gargamel at some point. Also, you're naked.

[Derek B]

A far better argument that Derek is scum, and one that will only become stronger as time goes by... is that he is still alive.

I dunno who's grouped with IER, but I do know IER plays the long game, with particular attention paid in doing night actions he can jsutify during the day if need be.

As for targets, IER would argue to remove power roles first. Thats why Nedew is dead now.

Dunno if there is another power player in the group, but it could be that IER was calling the shots for his group.

Thanks for drawing attention to the status of my vitals, that's just the kind of thing that's going to get me lynched. Just because I've been the most recruited person and last scum more than anyone else in the history of mafia (warning: statistic not researched) doesn't mean I HAVE to die early when I'm not scum. That's just an unfortunate preference people seem to have developed for some peculiar, mysterious reason that is unrelated to my use of smileys. :cool:

Though, that being said, I didn't consider the time. I should have, but I didn't. :)

My same post with evidence had a request to keep talking. Sometimes I wonder if people ever listen to me... I know lots of people try not to, but I figure if I yell loud enough something will sink in. :p

Lastly, for those who read a post of mine saying I'd barely be online for the next few days... I cancelled wenching tonight in favour of sitting around doing not much in my own home. The next 3 days are basically a write off though, with me working, watching Wrestlemania and working more... I might have time to get a hangover but even that will be pushing it, especially since I'm losing one hour to the summer. Damn you summer, I expect more sunlight for that lost hour!!!

[mjdgoldeneye]

My same post with evidence had a request to keep talking. Sometimes I wonder if people ever listen to me... I know lots of people try not to, but I figure if I yell loud enough something will sink in. :p

I doesn't has read good. :(

Anyway, I'm out for a while.

[Wallbanger]

Really? We've got more than 30 hours left of the phase and you guys are rushing to end it? Have you got something against using our time constructively or something?

I mean... really?

Rly?

RLY?!

:mad: :eek: :p

This. Emphatically.

[Jman2k3]

Wondering if we got the max to lynch Owens. I know we reach the number the number but him being a big, giant monster and all has me worried a bit.

[moon_lit_tears]

Wondering if we got the max to lynch Owens. I know we reach the number the number but him being a big, giant monster and all has me worried a bit.


Are you in a hurry to end the phase?

[Antithesis]

You know, trying to go after Derek ends in something crazy nearly every time.

You vote on him and ask him questions, and before you know it, you wake up in Argentina covered in someone else's blood having accidentally fake claimed Gargamel at some point. Also, you're naked. Unless you have a female Anime character, then your showing your panties.



Fixed.

[gonvick]

Really? We've got more than 30 hours left of the phase and you guys are rushing to end it? Have you got something against using our time constructively or something?

I mean... really?

Rly?

RLY?!

:mad: :eek: :p

That is disappointing. But it's also interesting to see who wanted to just rush through the day on an easy lynch. Also interesting to see who was willing to no lynch rather than lynch Venom last day phase but now seem eager to get their names on a scum lynch.

[Wallbanger]

Wondering if we got the max to lynch Owens. I know we reach the number the number but him being a big, giant monster and all has me worried a bit.


Well, we'll find out in a moment. d_dub is in thread, and he'll either put up a vote count or a writeup.

[Jman2k3]

This. Emphatically.

But Bossman it's like catching Jack the Ripper killing a prostitute red handed. Why wait when he is guilty? Just saying.

[Jman2k3]

Are you in a hurry to end the phase?

No. Are you?

[moon_lit_tears]

But Bossman it's like catching Jack the Ripper killing a prostitute red handed. Why wait when he is guilty? Just saying.

Wait a minute, I am the only one who can call him Bossman. :p

[Derek B]

Could still be used as evidence... just would take someone who wasn't afraid to tangle with Derek B. :D

Psh, fairly sure I've gotten you killed more than you've gotten me killed. :p

You know, trying to go after Derek ends in something crazy nearly every time.

You vote on him and ask him questions, and before you know it, you wake up in Argentina covered in someone else's blood having accidentally fake claimed Gargamel at some point. Also, you're naked.

The nakedness was your own preference, but I have to admit I do like Argentina. They've annoyed so many English people over the years that I can't help but smile. Amusingly, my clothes shop has a "Hand of God '86" T-shirt right at the front of it just now in pale blue... it makes me smile. :)

[moon_lit_tears]

No. Are you?


Uh-no. Do you ignore my posts. I said ^^ there somewhere that I didn't want to vote and waste time.

[Jman2k3]

Uh-no. Do you ignore my posts. I said ^^ there somewhere that I didn't want to vote and waste time.

Didn't see that one.

[d_w_w]

Lynch has been achieved and day phase is over.

Final vote count:

It is now Day Phase 4. With 27 players remaining, you have until 1:30 am EDT / 5:30 am GMT on Sunday, March 28th to reach a majority of 14. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.

SuperOwens - 14 (Jman2k3, Antithesis, crayon, BHK1978, Jaded, Tha Black Phenom, iMac, trypio, canyoudothecancan, eayragt, glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero, Waghlon)

Write-up forthcoming.

[moon_lit_tears]

Didn't see that one.

I will forgive you THIS time. :p

[BHK1978]

That is disappointing. But it's also interesting to see who wanted to just rush through the day on an easy lynch. Also interesting to see who was willing to no lynch rather than lynch Venom last day phase but now seem eager to get their names on a scum lynch.

Well if this last bit is directed at me, I answered why I did what I did. If it does not satisfy you there is not much I can do about that.

[d_w_w]

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Day 4

Quickly, the people of Mafia-Ville surrounded SuperOwens. They threw insults, fruits, and stones at the accused. One person even through a shoe.

Some in the crowd urged for patience and caution. "We have daylight, let's use it", they said.

Others, however, were eager for blood.

For his part, SuperOwens tried to explain himself, he tried to explain his actions. The events of the previous night, however, weighed heavily on the minds of the crowd.

And thus, discussion was of no use though. Very quickly, the more eager members of the mob advanced upon him. In a matter of moments, SuperOwens was dead.

The crowd rejoiced. Except for the poor person that was being hauled off to jail in the background.

SuperOwens is dead. He was Venom, Dark Avengers Aligned Thug Posing as Spider-Man.

Petrija has been arrested, is in jail, and currently cannot speak in the thread.

[supermareo]

But Bossman it's like catching Jack the Ripper killing a prostitute red handed. Why wait when he is guilty? Just saying.

because this is mafia and in it there are at least another 3-4 jack the rippers out there to find and we need to iuse all the time we have when there not out 'killing' so to speak to find out who they are

[gonvick]

Petrija has been arrested, is in jail, and currently cannot speak in the

Now we'll never know what Petrija is not able to speak in. I guess it's some kind of mystery. :)

[d_w_w]

Now we'll never know what Petrija is not able to speak in. I guess it's some kind of mystery. :)

Oops :o