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Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:01 PM
The whole we saw a kill attempt argument is possible, I admit.
Since there are at least two scum from 2 different scum groups left though, I kinda expected two kills.
One DC, One Marvel
Unless of course Poison Ivy/Prophet was a Don, but then, if thats the Marvel Killer in the write up, why is he written more like Killer Croc? (Creature) etc etc etc.
BHK1978
04-11-2010, 03:01 PM
Well I will say what I said before, if the majority thinks that SM is Scum and for some reason Jaded is not able to hammer. I would be willing to commit suicide for the town as my role is really nothing more then a vote now.
supermareo
04-11-2010, 03:01 PM
Here's a logical theory: The kill attempt was Void trying to kill and the Arkham can't kill anymore...?
We don't seem to have enough information to be positive, but Occam's Razor says SM is scum.
and like 9 times out of 10 in these games occam's razor is wrong
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 03:03 PM
So who do y'all think the Young Man is?
Cause I think only one claim fits, and they aren't someone Id have used a kill attempt on.
BHK1978
04-11-2010, 03:03 PM
Sorry for the lame joke but:
Does Occam realize that Gillette's razors are the best a man can get?
mjdgoldeneye
04-11-2010, 03:04 PM
and like 9 times out of 10 in these games occam's razor is wrong
Untrue. In this game, the odds of it being wrong are only about 75/25... :p
BHK1978
04-11-2010, 03:04 PM
So who do y'all think the Young Man is?
Cause I think only one claim fits, and they aren't someone Id have used a kill attempt on.
Could be crayon's claim as I think he was the only one to claim to be a young man.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:05 PM
So who do y'all think the Young Man is?
Cause I think only one claim fits, and they aren't someone Id have used a kill attempt on.
Crayon said if he got atatcked by a woman he'd kill her. If he got attacked by a man he'd survive and possibly get silenced.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:06 PM
Crayon said if he got atatcked by a woman he'd kill her. If he got attacked by a man he'd survive and possibly get silenced.
At least thats from memroy, anyway.
mjdgoldeneye
04-11-2010, 03:06 PM
So who do y'all think the Young Man is?
Cause I think only one claim fits, and they aren't someone Id have used a kill attempt on.
Could be crayon's claim as I think he was the only one to claim to be a young man.
Crayon said if he got atatcked by a woman he'd kill her. If he got attacked by a man he'd survive and possibly get silenced.
This is what I was thinking. It makes sense to me.
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 03:06 PM
Sorry for the lame joke but:
Does Occam realize that Gillette's razors are the best a man can get?
/Goes in search of a man to prove this. :p
I think by the way it is written that it was a kill attempt.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:08 PM
Okay, looks like I gotta come out with the whole damn thing. I previously said that it works dependant on who (presumably scum) targets me.
The exact mechanics are that if the attacker's a male, I've got a good chance of surviving it (due to constantly being beaten up on a daily basis), but me being hospitalized the next day as a result. However, if it's a female, I will survive the attack unscathed (due to accidental pervertedness). I will also be able to identify the attacker if female.
I didn't come out with the full details of it earlier because Ivy is still around
Well, thats his quote anyway
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:09 PM
Crayon isn't silenced though.
This is becoming troubling...
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 03:10 PM
/Goes in search of a man to prove this. :p
I think by the way it is written that it was a kill attempt.
Assume it was, was it a scum kill attempt?
They gain little from offing Crayon. He's made almost every potentially scum list and claimed to be tough to kill. Either way they would have elimenated one of the last potential distractions.
supermareo
04-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Well, thats his quote anyway
funny i don't see any mention of hospitalization so either 1) he wasn't the target or 2) he lied in some form
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Assume it was, was it a scum kill attempt?
They gain little from offing Crayon. He's made almost every potentially scum list and claimed to be tough to kill. Either way they would have elimenated one of the last potential distractions.
You are assuming every claim made is true.
BHK1978
04-11-2010, 03:13 PM
Crayon isn't silenced though.
This is becoming troubling...
True when petrija was in the hospital injured she was silenced.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:13 PM
Assume it was, was it a scum kill attempt?
They gain little from offing Crayon. He's made almost every potentially scum list and claimed to be tough to kill. Either way they would have elimenated one of the last potential distractions.
Are you saying that was your "buddy" trying a vig?
If so, just say so, as that would remove any possible doubt that SM could be town.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:14 PM
funny i don't see any mention of hospitalization so either 1) he wasn't the target or 2) he lied in some form
3) or the person who atatcked him was,'t scum.
mjdgoldeneye
04-11-2010, 03:15 PM
Omitting currently irrelevant facets of one's roll is a completely acceptable means of self preservation if the truth is similar and can be proven/your character is clear town.
(I've not done that, though.)
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 03:17 PM
You are assuming every claim made is true.
Just saying, if I put myself in scums shoes, Crayon isn't the person I try to kill.
Proven townies without a claim of being difficult to kill would be my target.
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 03:18 PM
Are you saying that was your "buddy" trying a vig?
If so, just say so, as that would remove any possible doubt that SM could be town.
My gut says it was.
However, you'll have to ask her.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:19 PM
Just saying, if I put myself in scums shoes, Crayon isn't the person I try to kill.
Proven townies without a claim of being difficult to kill would be my target.
Maybe the attacker (since they didn't kill I will not say killer) was misdirected to Crayon...
Assuming, that is, that you don't know more than you're saying.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:19 PM
My gut says it was.
However, you'll have to ask her.
You two don't talk?
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:21 PM
Okay.
Everybody just hold off voting plz until we here from Pet, Astil and Jaded.
Until someone can straighten itn out it looks like Pet tried to vig Crayon.
Meaning SM is not in the clear.
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 03:22 PM
You two don't talk?
Not so much. We keep different hours.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:22 PM
One thing...
The WOlverine wanna be... one would think he could maybe be bulletproof, right?
And there's crayon, unsilenced and still alive...
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 03:24 PM
One thing...
The WOlverine wanna be... one would think he could maybe be bulletproof, right?
And there's crayon, unsilenced and still alive...
/nod
If the game doesn't end with SMs lynch, then Imac should probably jail Crayon.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 03:24 PM
Daken, the fake Wolverine. Healing factor and all that. Also a young man...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daken
eayragt
04-11-2010, 04:28 PM
/nod
If the game doesn't end with SMs lynch, then Imac should probably jail Crayon.
Does Anti agree with that? I'm not sure if I mind a potential scum running around unprotected tonight, unless I'm getting the wrong end of the stick. As long as we don't mind a bit of collateral. And no-ones claimed survivor yet, and I don't count a survivial as any more of a victory than a normal victory (says the man who's never survived a game :rolleyes:).
Vote: Supermareo
If the game doesn't end with SMs lynch, then Imac should probably jail Crayon.
I won't be able to jail Crayon today. I have to wait 3 days in between jailing someone for a 2nd time. I jailed Crayon on Day 8 so would have to wait until Day 12 to do so again.
Might warrant a change in strategy once we hear from Petrija and Astil.
supermareo
04-11-2010, 04:55 PM
/nod
If the game doesn't end with SMs lynch, then Imac should probably jail Crayon.
well i can 100% guarantee the game wont end if you lynch me because I AM NOT SCUM
eayragt
04-11-2010, 04:55 PM
change vote crayon I hate posting from my phone. Assuming that I am, crayon is a poor target tonight. supermareo is better. Both way have kills tonight. Only one we may be able to deal with. I had a better post explaining this, but managed to wipe it. Nothing to do with jailing. Someone give me a damned keyboard!
eayragt
04-11-2010, 04:58 PM
although if the bomb claim is true we'd be down the same numbers. Not my call. I'll be back on in the morning, using a proper keyboard. I might even make sense.
Jaded
04-11-2010, 05:39 PM
I'm not dead, btw. So scum didn't take me out last night, and I'm still able to hammer SM if we want.
Eay, which night did you target me?
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 05:40 PM
well i can 100% guarantee the game wont end if you lynch me because I AM NOT SCUM
Exactly what I'd expect scum to say.
crayon
04-11-2010, 05:40 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png
Night 10
The creature burst through the room with inhuman speed and startled the young man, who appeared to be busily working at their desk.
The embrace was quick and, just as quickly, the creature flung the young man to the side, quite literally bouncing him off of the wall.
The young man lifted a hand, as if to protest, but was far too weak to do more.
-------------------------------------------
supermareo has been released and may participate in the thread.
Going from the writeup I'm going to guess that was me, unless someone else happens to be a young man and hasn't mentioned it. It would make sense, since in kayfabe terms I probably would have been studying at the time of attack. And why am I being embraced of all things!?
funny i don't see any mention of hospitalization so either 1) he wasn't the target or 2) he lied in some form
If it is me, I can only think of two reasons for it, either a) the attacker wasn't scum (we should hear if this is the case), or b) neither of my abilities came into effect since it was a creature. (I'll have to check with d_w_w to get more clarification on the latter theory though)
Here's a logical theory: The kill attempt was Void trying to kill and the Arkham can't kill anymore...?
We don't seem to have enough information to be positive, but Occam's Razor says SM is scum.
All I really know is The Sentry, but he wouldn't be written up as a creature.. would The Void?
Daken, the fake Wolverine. Healing factor and all that. Also a young man...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daken
Also unlikely to be at a desk late at night as well :P (plus wouldn't he be out on the prowl, if so?)
crayon
04-11-2010, 05:52 PM
Also the other possibility that probably should be brought up.. I think it was Grunt who mentioned a late blooming serial killer? Someone opened their eyes and said "it's time" two nights back and no one's accounted for it.
If that is the case, it could explain the creature, and would also clear SM. Coz if there's no DA left, it's highly unlikely there's any AA left. The other thing I'm wondering, and tell me if I'm way off track, but is it possible that an event like that could turn someone's alignment? As in someone who was previously town now may not be? Because if that's the case, it may have also changed their power level.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 06:25 PM
Also the other possibility that probably should be brought up.. I think it was Grunt who mentioned a late blooming serial killer? Someone opened their eyes and said "it's time" two nights back and no one's accounted for it.
If that is the case, it could explain the creature, and would also clear SM. Coz if there's no DA left, it's highly unlikely there's any AA left. The other thing I'm wondering, and tell me if I'm way off track, but is it possible that an event like that could turn someone's alignment? As in someone who was previously town now may not be? Because if that's the case, it may have also changed their power level.
Who said there's no DA or AA left?
This whole, assuming small numbers of scum, thats a steady recipe for defeat. Me, until I see otehrwise, I'm assuming there's at least four scum left (though considering the game is semi dark that number would be high).
I do believe Pet attacked you. Dunno if that clears you or not, but if she did then, whatever theory there is, we're still missing a night kill.
Jaded's volunteered to hammer, which would be a way to test him and get the SM situation resolved.
Frankly there's no way SM can be permitted to go on with this much suspicion on him anyway.
If he lives (cuz Imac can't jail him again) and there is a new attack next night phase, everyone will just point to SM...
That said, I'd still like to hear from Pet and Astil
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 06:31 PM
Grunt, who's on your most suspicious list right now?
There's Pet signalling the Vig
May as well share this now. Saves people going back and looking things up themselves. Yes, I've marked myself in Blue. Take that with whatever pinch of salt you wish. Final vote counts:
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Destiny - 14 (derek_b, Tha Black Phenom, mjdgoldeneye, eayragt, Wallbanger, moon lit tears, Arrows, Nedew, Jaded, Jman2k3, Antithesis, Zeel1, Wrestling Century, Waghlon)
Glotnot - 1 (Destiny)
Jman2k3 - 1 - (GruntMark)
mjdgoldeneye - 1 - (Bluestar)<o:p></o:p>
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Destiny - 3 (derek_b, Jaded, Wrestling Century)
mjdgoldeneye - 1 (GruntMark)
Wrestling Century - 22 (mjdgoldeneye, Glotnot, Zeel1, Antithesis, Nedew, BHK1978, Tha Black Phenom, Waghlon, Arrows, masterded, iMac, Wallbanger, eayragt, supermareo, SuperOwens, Jaded, Prophet, bak42, Trypio, i effin rule, Astil, moon lit tears)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 3:<o:p></o:p>
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Destiny - 6 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, petrija, TakerNGN74, Jman2k3, moon_lit_tears)
Jman23k - 1 (Astil)
SuperOwens - 8 (Gonvick, trypio, derek_b, GruntMark, eayragt, crayon, i effin rule, Tha Black Phenom)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 4:<o:p></o:p>
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SuperOwens - 14 (Jman2k3, Antithesis, crayon, BHK1978, Jaded, Tha Black Phenom, iMac, trypio, canyoudothecancan, eayragt, glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero, Waghlon)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 5:<o:p></o:p>
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derek_b - 1 (MichiganHero)
lprock - 6 (Jman2k3, Antithesis, eayragt, Wallbanger, Jaded, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger - 1 (Glotnot)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 6:<o:p></o:p>
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lprock -12- (Antithesis, GruntMark, mjdgoldeneye, Wallbanger, derek_b, Astil, Glotnot, crayon, iMac, Jaded, moon_lit_tears, eayragt)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 7:<o:p></o:p>
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canyoudothecancan -10 (GruntMark, BHK1978, bak42, eayragt, iMac, Wallbanger, moon_lit_tears, Waghlon, MichiganHero, Antithesis)
masterded -1 (mjdgoldeneye)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 8:<o:p></o:p>
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MichiganHero -10 (crayon, Astil, Wallbanger, mjdgoldeneye, masterded, Antithesis, BHK1978, supermareo, iMac, Waghlon)
supermareo -2 (eayragt, GruntMark)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 9:<o:p></o:p>
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masterded - 8 - (GruntMark, crayon, supermareo, bak42, Antithesis, iMac, mjdgoldeneye, moon_lit_tears)
Prophet - 2 - (eayragt, Astil)<o:p></o:p>
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Day 10:<o:p></o:p>
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Prophet - 8 - (Wallbanger, BHK1978, mjdgoldeneye, petrija, Antithesis, GruntMark, crayon, moon_lit_tears)<o:p></o:p>
Correct me if I'm wrong SM, but you never vote on any of the DC scum, did you?
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 06:33 PM
Did vote to Lynch MH and Masterded though...
Pretty sure he's scum. Should we just go ahead an lynch him now?
supermareo
04-11-2010, 06:43 PM
There's Pet signalling the Vig
Correct me if I'm wrong SM, but you never vote on any of the DC scum, did you?
thats due to most of the lynches either 1) being hammered before i managed to get on, when last i looked there where several votes on and people where giving the lynchee a chance to speak first or happened at about 4am uk time, when im asleep
supermareo
04-11-2010, 06:44 PM
Did vote to Lynch MH and Masterded though...
Pretty sure he's scum. Should we just go ahead an lynch him now?
if your going to lynch me now hurry up and i'll hammer myself
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 06:54 PM
if your going to lynch me now hurry up and i'll hammer myself
That didn't work last time we had a bomb.
Better to let Jaded do it.
crayon
04-11-2010, 06:59 PM
Who said there's no DA or AA left?
This whole, assuming small numbers of scum, thats a steady recipe for defeat. Me, until I see otehrwise, I'm assuming there's at least four scum left (though considering the game is semi dark that number would be high).
I do believe Pet attacked you. Dunno if that clears you or not, but if she did then, whatever theory there is, we're still missing a night kill.
Jaded's volunteered to hammer, which would be a way to test him and get the SM situation resolved.
Frankly there's no way SM can be permitted to go on with this much suspicion on him anyway.
If he lives (cuz Imac can't jail him again) and there is a new attack next night phase, everyone will just point to SM...
That said, I'd still like to hear from Pet and Astil
Yeah, it's definitely not concrete at this stage as to how many members are in DA and AA, but we can dream right? :P I guess it just seems hard to envision since I have a hard time figuring two each left (perhaps just coz of the amount of pretty solid'ish claims we have, and that it'd seem quite steeped against us), and if we were to assume just one each left, then I wouldn't have expected there'd be any restructing wait time (to decide a new don) and we would have at least seen some kill attempt last night. (the creature attack could be it, but it's clearly questionable for the reasons previously stated, as well just how it reads in relation to what possible scum it could be)
Also, if Pet is a vig tied to GruntMark, and Grunt is who he says he is, then a creature doing some kind of "embrace" does make a lot of sense.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 07:06 PM
thats due to most of the lynches either 1) being hammered before i managed to get on, when last i looked there where several votes on and people where giving the lynchee a chance to speak first or happened at about 4am uk time, when im asleep
See, stuff like that botehrs me.
People I've figured for town now seem conveniently inactive.
Probably best and wait till we hear from them.
Astil
04-11-2010, 08:29 PM
Well its just troublesome because we had at least one, perhaps even two new killers due last night.
No doubt some of the people who have claimed they don't go out, now will have to.
I'd also like to hear what Astil's been up to. A rolecop with some info would be handy right about now in determining who the Jailer should lock up for today.
Just because it's the first time you've seen me go out doesn't mean it's the first time I've been out.
Anyway, I did ask Astil for a full list of his targets power yesterday. Should be most useful.
I did say I was going to an event, right? I'll get that list soon.
Astil
04-11-2010, 08:33 PM
N1 - Shell stolen
N2 - Made new shell
N3 - Jaded, 750, Male, Did not leave
N4 - MLT, 1000, Female, Did not leave
N5- MLT, 1000, Female, Left
N6 - NO RESULT
N7 - NO RESULT
N8 - Crayon, 1000, Male, In prison (durr...my bad), got a power
N9 - Antithesis, 500, Male, Did not leave
N9 - MJDGoldeneye, 500, Male, Left
N10 - Too tired for results
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 08:39 PM
N1 - Shell stolen
N2 - Made new shell
N3 - Jaded, 750, Male, Did not leave
N4 - MLT, 1000, Female, Did not leave
N5- MLT, 1000, Female, Left
N6 - NO RESULT
N7 - NO RESULT
N8 - Crayon, 1000, Male, In prison (durr...my bad), got a power
N9 - Antithesis, 500, Male, Did not leave
N9 - MJDGoldeneye, 500, Male, Left
N10 - Too tired for results
Question. Why would you target me twice in a row?
d_w_w
04-11-2010, 08:41 PM
It is now Day Phase 11. With 14 players remaining, you have until 2:00 pm EDT / 7:00 pm BST on Tuesday, April 13th to reach 8 votes. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.
crayon - 1- (eayragt)
supermareo -2- (GruntMark, mjdgoldeneye)
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 08:43 PM
N1 - Shell stolen
N2 - Made new shell
N3 - Jaded, 750, Male, Did not leave
N4 - MLT, 1000, Female, Did not leave
N5- MLT, 1000, Female, Left
N6 - NO RESULT
N7 - NO RESULT
N8 - Crayon, 1000, Male, In prison (durr...my bad), got a power
N9 - Antithesis, 500, Male, Did not leave
N9 - MJDGoldeneye, 500, Male, Left
N10 - Too tired for results
Also why do you have 2 results for Night 9?
mjdgoldeneye
04-11-2010, 08:51 PM
I was thinking there were only 5 Dark Avengers.
Considering the lack of serial killers, maybe there's still Daken, Void, Killer Croc, AND Scarecrow...
That'd be a lot of scum, but it'd be possible.
I'm willing to assume the remaining Batman villains are somewhere in the video game. I mean, of all Batman villains, why Bane before others if these roles aren't being drawn from the game? He's moderately well known, but there are more significant types out there.
I'd bet the remaining AA guys are from the pool of Killer Croc, Scarecrow, and The Riddler.
Anyway, there's at least 1 bad guy on each side and only 1 kill attempt, so I suppose SM is still the best choice today.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 08:52 PM
Aight Eayragt, that correspond with you? Also, anyone else you've targetted. besides BHK and Astil.
mjdgoldeneye
04-11-2010, 08:53 PM
Has Astil targeted anyone that hasn't confirmed their gender? Is there anyone left to claim their gender?
I ask simply because it'd be awfully convenient for all of this result to mirror what already appeared in the thread...
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 08:54 PM
Has Astil targeted anyone that hasn't confirmed their gender? Is there anyone left to claim their gender?
I ask simply because it'd be awfully convenient for all of this result to mirror what already appeared in the thread...
Just looked and doubt it.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 09:04 PM
Has Astil targeted anyone that hasn't confirmed their gender? Is there anyone left to claim their gender?
I ask simply because it'd be awfully convenient for all of this result to mirror what already appeared in the thread...
I don't think Eayragt's claimed a gnder.
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 09:39 PM
Astil
Still waiting on an answer please.
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 09:43 PM
N1 - Shell stolen
N2 - Made new shell
N3 - Jaded, 750, Male, Did not leave
N4 - MLT, 1000, Female, Did not leave
N5- MLT, 1000, Female, Left
N6 - NO RESULT
N7 - NO RESULT
N8 - Crayon, 1000, Male, In prison (durr...my bad), got a power
N9 - Antithesis, 500, Male, Did not leave
N9 - MJDGoldeneye, 500, Male, Left
N10 - Too tired for results
Also there is a problem with this right here. I am sure those who pay attention to the game can figure it out. :D
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Also there is a problem with this right here. I am sure those who pay attention to the game can figure it out. :D
Nevermind this. I would still like my questions answered though.
Astil
04-11-2010, 10:25 PM
Sorry guys.
I targeted you twice in a row because you didn't leave because you were frozen, and you where saying you don't leave at all, a lie I caught you in.
Astil
04-11-2010, 10:26 PM
Has Astil targeted anyone that hasn't confirmed their gender? Is there anyone left to claim their gender?
I ask simply because it'd be awfully convenient for all of this result to mirror what already appeared in the thread...
I'm in a writeup, exposed MLT in a lie and someone stole my power and used it to hand you Prophet. You really want to even take a step down the 'Astil is being scummy' road?
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 10:30 PM
Sorry guys.
I targeted you twice in a row because you didn't leave because you were frozen, and you where saying you don't leave at all, a lie I caught you in.
Night 4
derek_b and moon_lit_tears appear to be frozen in time. They cannot currently speak in the thread.
Actually No!. We did not get frozen until day phase 5 started.
You also skipped my other question. :D
petrija
04-11-2010, 10:31 PM
My gut says it was.
However, you'll have to ask her.
...Yup.
Maybe the attacker (since they didn't kill I will not say killer) was misdirected to Crayon...
Assuming, that is, that you don't know more than you're saying.
Not misdirected. I intentionally targetted Crayon. I needed to, to heal. This should make sense to anyone who knows my character. I asked GM seeing as he's the only one I completely trust right now, and SM was in the hospital, so Crayon it was,
Okay.
Everybody just hold off voting plz until we here from Pet, Astil and Jaded.
Until someone can straighten itn out it looks like Pet tried to vig Crayon.
Meaning SM is not in the clear.
So considering I really don't understand all of this, I have no idea what implications this all has.
I was under the impression that what I needed to do may have caused harm and that's why I seeked out potential scum.
Make of it what you will that crayon wasn't actually injured.
Astil
04-11-2010, 10:40 PM
Actually No!. We did not get frozen until day phase 5 started.
You also skipped my other question. :D
I got two N9 abilites and no N10. It was another players power.
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 10:42 PM
I got two N9 abilites and no N10. It was another players power.
So you say you targeted me a second time because i was frozen in time night 4. Yet that did not happen until day 5. You got a result on me and came back for a different one?
Astil
04-11-2010, 10:43 PM
Sorry guys.
I targeted you twice in a row because you didn't leave because you were frozen, and you where saying you don't leave at all, a lie I caught you in.
Well I assumed this. Thats why I double targeted.
Why did you not do anything N4 than do something N5, even though you stated you dont go out at night.
Astil
04-11-2010, 10:44 PM
So you say you targeted me a second time because i was frozen in time night 4. Yet that did not happen until day 5. You got a result on me and came back for a different one?
I targeted you N4, it said you didn't go out. Didn't say why so I assumed it was because you were frozen.
So I double targeted you.
Why is this in discussion anyway?
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 10:45 PM
I targeted you N4, it said you didn't go out. Didn't say why so I assumed it was because you were frozen.
So I double targeted you.
Why is this in discussion anyway?
I am curious is all. Why would you push for information from me when it should have been obvious the night Derek died I was good?
crayon
04-11-2010, 10:49 PM
So considering I really don't understand all of this, I have no idea what implications this all has.
I was under the impression that what I needed to do may have caused harm and that's why I seeked out potential scum.
Make of it what you will that crayon wasn't actually injured.
I'm assuming that by this you're saying it's ambiguous as to if there's any difference between what happens if you target scum or town. Any chance you could get some kind of mod clarification as to your role ability, regarding this?
Probably not that it matters now, since Petrija's was a non-scum attack (not even sure if it'd be classed as an attack?), but for the record I also asked if there's a difference between me getting targeted by a creature or person, in regards to the male/female thing. In a roundabout way, d_w_w's reply was essentially "nyah nyah, not telling" :P
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 10:51 PM
I'm assuming that by this you're saying it's ambiguous as to if there's any difference between what happens if you target scum or town. Any chance you could get some kind of mod clarification as to your role ability, regarding this?
Probably not that it matters now, since Petrija's was a non-scum attack (not even sure if it'd be classed as an attack?), but for the record I also asked if there's a difference between me getting targeted by a creature or person, in regards to the male/female thing. In a roundabout way, d_w_w's reply was essentially "nyah nyah, not telling" :P
unfortunately there are MANY things the mods do not tell us. If they told us everything the game would not be as fun. :cool:
Astil
04-11-2010, 10:55 PM
I am curious is all. Why would you push for information from me when it should have been obvious the night Derek died I was good?
I still don't see that?
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 11:04 PM
[QUOTE=moon_lit_tears;952813]I am curious is all. Why would you push for information from me when it should have been obvious the night Derek died I was good?[/[QUOTE]
I still don't see that?
Really? Derek says he got what he needed from me. If I were scum he would have been all over it right? Or are you saying he played it poorly?
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 11:06 PM
Really? Derek says he got what he needed from me. If I were scum he would have been all over it right? Or are you saying he played it poorly?
Ugh Stupid broken quotes.
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 11:17 PM
So...with Petrija confirmed as the attacker then that means in all probablilty
Arkham is either
-dead
OR
-SuperMareo is likely the last member
OR
-Ivy was both a don that has to be replaced and had been performing her own kills
Dark Avengers is either
-Dead
OR
-SuperMareo is likely the last member
Go town.
Antithesis
04-11-2010, 11:22 PM
Well, wanna make sure we let Jaded hammer and also give time for Imac to pick a target to silence, before the lynch.
Imac, would it be possible to silence Astil?
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 11:23 PM
Anyone got a vote count?
I will put my vote.
GruntMark
04-11-2010, 11:25 PM
It is now Day Phase 11. With 14 players remaining, you have until 2:00 pm EDT / 7:00 pm BST on Tuesday, April 13th to reach 8 votes. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.
crayon - 1- (eayragt)
supermareo -2- (GruntMark, mjdgoldeneye)
Seems to still be current.
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 11:27 PM
VOTE Supermareo
petrija
04-11-2010, 11:33 PM
vote: supermareo
BHK1978
04-11-2010, 11:49 PM
The wind seems to be blowing in SM's direction and it is my civic duty to vote.:) But there is just something that I am not sold on about this vote.
Part of me wants to get rid of SM because as a bomb he could have helped us more and yet chose to still play an inactive game. However, not everbody can lead the town (I know I do not like to do so) and maybe SM just does not want to be in that position.
That being said I am not 100% convinced he is scum either. I am going to have to think this one over and maybe later I will put a vote down for him.
moon_lit_tears
04-11-2010, 11:51 PM
The wind seems to be blowing in SM's direction and it is my civic duty to vote.:) But there is just something that I am not sold on about this vote.
Part of me wants to get rid of SM because as a bomb he could have helped us more and yet chose to still play an inactive game. However, not everbody can lead the town (I know I do not like to do so) and maybe SM just does not want to be in that position.
That being said I am not 100% convinced he is scum either. I am going to have to think this one over and maybe later I will put a vote down for him.
Not trying to sway your vote here, but there was no kill last night.
If there is a kill and SM is still alive tonight we will be going over this AGAIN tomorrow and would have wasted a day phase. I am not sold on SM either beign scum, but right now we are at the point in time that we have to make a move.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 12:01 AM
Not trying to sway your vote here, but there was no kill last night.
If there is a kill and SM is still alive tonight we will be going over this AGAIN tomorrow and would have wasted a day phase. I am not sold on SM either beign scum, but right now we are at the point in time that we have to make a move.
I guess you are right, my whole thing is if SM is town it kind of sucks that he was a bomb and yet played another inactive game. I know that is the way he plays but still he could have helped us out a little more.
Heck unless I have a power role I am all but useless but I try to stay active.
The thing is, it is so hard to read SM because he plays this way over and over again, no matter if he is scum, town, or indy. So who the heck knows what he is in this game?
At the end of the day, I agree with you. We are at a point where unless he is gone from this game, he will continue to be a distraction and public enemy number one. So with that being said and to do my civic duty:
Vote: supermareo
I really hope I don't regret this...
crayon
04-12-2010, 12:02 AM
So I guess we're going for SM then. I don't like the alternative if we're wrong in both the lynch and assumption of how a 9000-verse bomb works, but anti makes a fair call about it just becoming a sticking point if a kill happens tonight after a no lynch.
If you need my vote, it's here if that's the town decision, but personally the whole downside makes me uneasy, especially given that a bomb townie would be great to have if it comes down to a numbers game.
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 12:04 AM
Heck unless I have a power role I am all but useless but I try to stay active.
This is not a good way to think about the games.
Weather you have a power role (Kill protector watcher) or a lesser role (I can't think of one) you are very much useful as a town vote/scum partner.
Even a Vanilla townie is as good to the town as a power role if played the right way.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 12:08 AM
This is not a good way to think about the games.
Weather you have a power role (Kill protector watcher) or a lesser role (I can't think of one) you are very much useful as a town vote/scum partner.
Even a Vanilla townie is as good to the town as a power role if played the right way.
True but I am not so good with the hints and the subtlety of this game. Unless the facts are looking me right in the face, I am going to second guess. After all I am not playing like Columbo (the Peter Falk character and not the NYC crime family that is a member of the Commission) on purpose, I really am dense and not trying to trick people into thinking I am dense when I am really smart.:D
crayon
04-12-2010, 12:10 AM
True but I am not so good with the hints and the subtlety of this game. Unless the facts are looking me right in the face, I am going to second guess. After all I am not playing like Columbo (the Peter Falk character and not the NYC crime family that is a member of the Commission) on purpose, I really am dense and not trying to trick people into thinking I am dense when I am really smart.:D
+1 for a Columbo reference, you're now guaranteed town in my books :P
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 12:13 AM
True but I am not so good with the hints and the subtlety of this game. Unless the facts are looking me right in the face, I am going to second guess. After all I am not playing like Columbo (the Peter Falk character and not the NYC crime family that is a member of the Commission) on purpose, I really am dense and not trying to trick people into thinking I am dense when I am really smart.:D
That would make 2 of us. Although sometimes being Dense is the way to play it. :p
+1 for a Columbo reference, you're now guaranteed town in my books :P
Pfft I think you both are scum!
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 12:14 AM
Pfft I think you both are scum!
How could anybody be Scum that knows who Peter Falk is?:D
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 12:18 AM
Can we have a claim list gathered together? Do you think we're far enough in that it's not a problem to do that anymore?
If not, it may very well not matter.
I'm just interested in compiling a "How likely is this BS" list...
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 12:26 AM
1. Antithesis DC Hero (Nightwing right?)
3. Astil Master Roshi
4. bak42 - Toushirou Hitsugaya
5. BHK1978 Scarlet Witch
6. Petrija - Alucard
11. Eayragt - Anime Character?
14. GruntMark - Integra
16. Imac Judge Dredd
17. Jaded The Undertakler
21. mjdgoldeneye Super Mario
22. moon_lit_tears - female
25. Crayon Anime character whose name I always forget to write down
26. supermareo Xplosion Man
32. Wallbanger Wonder Woman
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 12:30 AM
Pass SM...it becomes a tight race for mostly likely scum.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 12:31 AM
Pass SM...it becomes a tight race for most likely scum.
Fixed.
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 02:11 AM
It is now Day Phase 11. With 14 players remaining, you have until 2:00 pm EDT / 7:00 pm BST on Tuesday, April 13th to reach 8 votes. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.
crayon - 1- (eayragt)
supermareo -5- (GruntMark, mjdgoldeneye, moon_lit_tears, petrija, BHK1978)
eayragt
04-12-2010, 02:31 AM
I think we're on 5 votes, so:
change vote: supermareo
What I was trying to say last night, but failed was this:
If we believe Supermareo is AA or DA, then to keep the symmetry in the game (which I don't think is a naive assumption) he must be DA, and crayon is almost certainly AA aligned, and wasn't doing anything last night because AA were don replacing.
However, crayon does make a good point about himself in the write-up - he certainly looks more scholarish than evil. And the other point is the one I've been concerned about - the write-up a couple of nights back with "it's time". A couple of times I've asked about this to see if anyone could think it's an innocent description of them, and no-one has come forward. Trouble is, not much has happened since, so unless we decide that GruntMark and petrija have gone evil (which was my wild theory), then that puts the finger back on Supermareo.
However, GruntMark has posted on a couple of occasions that he thinks we are in endgame. It could be confidence... it could be distraction. If I was to jail a random person I'd be looking at the Hellsings - especially as one has already been seen out on the prowl.
Astil - thanks for your list - I know you said you were going to be out, sorry if it sounded like I was moaning at you for not coming forward. That wasn't the intention. The list marries up for me. Pity, I was hoping that you'd have got a more in depth investigation rather than bringing forward an investigation a day. Considering that and Astil's result on mlt, and him being referenced in a write-up, Astil was clean. No idea of the character and if he could have turned a couple of nights ago, but I have no evidence to support this. Or think that it's true.
As more my ability, apart from moon_lit_tears, Astil and BHK1978 a couple of times, the only other time I've used my ability was on Night 1 was on Jaded. I choose him because I thought he was town (been scum with him for the last two games and him throwing out an early claim is not historically a Jaded scum play, although people do change their playing habits...), and I wanted more clarity on how my ability worked. My ability says that after being powered up my target may become tired, which I took to mean being silenced the next phase. Lo and behold, Jaded was silenced after being powered up. This is why I didn't use my ability on Anti earlier - I wasn't too sure what the use was of powering up an investigator if they weren't going to be able to share there results the next phase.
Of course, now I've got a much better understanding of how my ability works.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 02:43 AM
Vote SuperMareo
That is -1 to lynch
Jaded should be the hammer. Even, on the off chance SM is telling the truth, this will allow us to test Jaded's claim at least, so that things aren't a complete loss.
Jaded
04-12-2010, 02:47 AM
Just to confirm that I was powered up night 1, then silenced night 2, so eay seems to be telling the truth about that ability.
Do people want me to hammer, or do we need to give iMac time to sort a target out? Will be around for the next 15 hours or so fairly often so no problem holding off for a bit if people want - I love the holidays!
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 02:55 AM
I would say hold off until later, as dww is probably not going to be back on here for a while as it is very late/early here in the states.
But I would like to post this in honor of you hammering the vote home:
http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae173/BHK1978/kobe%20mod/hammertime.jpg:D
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 03:00 AM
I was gonna make some kind of comment to the effect of "what kind of sorry scum group can only communicate in the game thread?"
But then I remembered Transformers.
Man that game was awful.
Jman2k3
04-12-2010, 03:05 AM
But then I remembered Transformers.
Man that game was awful.
From what I heard yes, yes it was.
/dies again.
eayragt
04-12-2010, 03:34 AM
Just to confirm that I was powered up night 1, then silenced night 2, so eay seems to be telling the truth about that ability.
Do people want me to hammer, or do we need to give iMac time to sort a target out? Will be around for the next 15 hours or so fairly often so no problem holding off for a bit if people want - I love the holidays!
Grumble, grumble... school teachers.. too much holiday... :p
Anyways, best holding of until IMac nods - when he last posted there was no direction for his jailing, and we don't know if he put a placeholder name in ornot. Even if this game is almost over he should still use his ability - I can't see overconfidence harming us, but if it did we'd look really stupid.
And probably best to minimise the day spagetti, to try and stop someone wandering in and hammering without realising the consequences.
crayon
04-12-2010, 06:11 AM
Hmm looks like I was too late for voting. Not that it appears to matter though
As far as iMac upholding the LAAAAWWW, as I see it, we've got two ways we can take it.
One, going off the school of thought that there's at least another 1 of AA and DA out there - well, I would say that Anti, MJD, and Astil (and of course iMac) are about as cleared as clear can be (I guess in Mafia value anyway, as I keep needing to remember), with Pet and Grunt somewhere behind them. Jaded will either prove or not prove himself with the SM hammer.
As best as I can tell, that leaves the rest as potential jailbirds, although I'm not really certain if any stand out more than the others. (possibly someone who hasn't appeared in any write ups?)
Second school of thought is the late blooming serial killer - which could possibly make things a lot more difficult to gauge. If the "it's time" guy is actually someone turning bad, then it seems as though that would make things a fair bit harder to decide. Although, Eaygrat's wild theory on Integra and her servant could possibly make sense, at least in a "if you were the mod and had to turn someone(s), who would it be?" kind of way. Of course that way of thinking is probably just as likely as it is being random selection as well.
Not actually any answers in there, but at least some avenues of thought for anyone who is more trusted than me to make a judgement call, atm.
crayon
04-12-2010, 06:19 AM
Also, since I'm likely to be suspected going into the night phase, might I suggest that town not block or silence or do any restrictive funny business on me? If that sounds scummy, then so be it, but if I'm going be the topic of discussion for another day I feel it'd be in both my and the town's favor that it's at least cut and dry what did or didn't happen the night before, concerning me, and that everyone isn't just going *shrug, vote* because someone wrapped me up in magical spider webbing or something.
Because if both scum factions still exist and SM isn't DA or AA, then that would mean another two killers out and about. I'm already suspected by default anyway, so resources would probably be better served on the question marks, and may actually prevent kills (even if it doesn't it should give the town more evidence down the track, right?). I would also imagine that this would be doubly important if Eayragt is actually on the money with his theory, since that could leave a whole lot (or at the least, two) more people open to being potential scum.
Well, wanna make sure we let Jaded hammer and also give time for Imac to pick a target to silence, before the lynch.
Imac, would it be possible to silence Astil?
It would be possible yes. Need to let me know before the hammer is placed though.
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 11:09 AM
Lynch has been achieved.
Write-up coming.
It is now Day Phase 11. With 14 players remaining, you have until 2:00 pm EDT / 7:00 pm BST on Tuesday, April 13th to reach 8 votes. If a majority is not reached, a no-lynch will be declared.
supermareo -8- (GruntMark, mjdgoldeneye, moon_lit_tears, petrija, BHK1978, eayragt, Antithesis, Jaded)
eayragt
04-12-2010, 11:12 AM
It would be possible yes. Need to let me know before the hammer is placed though.
I'd say it's up to you - you've chosen well so far, so I'd trust your judgement. I don't think that it's crucial we lock up anyone in particular, but it would be a waste for you not to use your power.
Fair enough. Have sent it in. Over to you Jaded.
Jaded
04-12-2010, 11:55 AM
Okay, here goes. I'll 'die', but will be back tomorrow (start of day phase I think.)
Vote: supermareo
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 12:00 PM
Well we have plenty of time for Jaded to come on and fnish this lynch.
Jaded
04-12-2010, 01:17 PM
Well we have plenty of time for Jaded to come on and fnish this lynch.
Look above you!! :)
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 01:23 PM
And now we play the waiting game....
If there are any more scum left, I kinda want to say kudos. Everyone remaining has made some sort of case for being town. So well played.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 01:30 PM
And now we play the waiting game....
If there are any more scum left, I kinda want to say kudos. Everyone remaining has made some sort of case for being town. So well played.
Thats really the final reason for this... everyone else has a night action to point to or a claim that checked by a second source.
Add to that the lack of a kill last night phase, there aren't any other options available with the info we have on hand atm.
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 01:31 PM
Look above you!! :)
Damn it get off of me. :p
And now we play the waiting game....
If there are any more scum left, I kinda want to say kudos. Everyone remaining has made some sort of case for being town. So well played.
:cool:
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 02:04 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png
Day 11
The mob gathered in the center of the town-square. They were relieved at the lack of deaths, yet still cautious and more than a little on edge.
One man had been walking around town with a t-shirt that said "BOMB" on it in capital letters. Naturally, everyone thought this was weird.
So they decided to kill him. Quickly, they dragged the man to the gallows. He pleaded with the crowd. "You'll regret this!"
Finally, one man stepped forward and kicked the chair out from under supermareo's feet. With a graphic and not-so-pg-friendly noise, his neck snapped...
And ...
Then ...
He ...
'SPLODED!!!
This incinerated the man nearest to him.
Quickly, another person was snatched up and hauled to jail.
supermareo is dead. He was 'Splosion Man, Justice Aligned Guy that Tends to Explode.
Jaded is dead.
Astil has been arrested. He is currently unable to speak in the thread.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 02:06 PM
well ****
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 02:07 PM
Well that is not good.
No alignment for Jaded, maybe he will be back?
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 02:07 PM
It is now Night Phase 11. You have until 3:10 pm EDT / 8:10 pm BST to send in your night PMs. If your ability is optional and you would like to not use it, let us know that as well. Please send all PMS to:
d_w_w ; Imarevenant
eayragt
04-12-2010, 02:08 PM
No jailing?
well ****
Symmetry says... I'm more interested in Gruntmark and pet right now over crayon.
Of course, who trusts symmetry?
eayragt
04-12-2010, 02:09 PM
No jailing?
Scrap that - I saw the edit!
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 02:09 PM
There was a quick ninja edit to the write-up, as I forgot something the first time.
eayragt
04-12-2010, 02:10 PM
It is now Night Phase 11. You have until 3:10 pm EDT / 8:10 pm BST to send in your night PMs. If your ability is optional and you would like to not use it, let us know that as well. Please send all PMS to:
d_w_w ; Imarevenant
On that, have we really got any excuse to have this one run to 24 hours?
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 02:11 PM
There was a quick ninja edit to the write-up, as I forgot something the first time.
I don't see any changes?
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 02:12 PM
On that, have we really got any excuse to have this one run to 24 hours?
If all PMs get in early, the phase will end early.
eayragt
04-12-2010, 02:14 PM
If all PMs get in early, the phase will end early.
Sorry - that wasn't directed at you, that was directed at us.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 02:47 PM
That is it, I am not going to break out that Hammer Time picture again. Twice I busted it out and twice town were lynched. I guess Hammer Time is going into early retirement.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 03:30 PM
Of course, who trusts symmetry?
I dont even understand your symmetry. How is two well built groups and a random, turned deep into the game two person scum group even begin to be symmetry?
Thats some silly goose logic.
At this point, with SM dead and town, you and Bak once again are the most likely scum IMO.
Pending the night phase and a kill/lack of kill with Astil locked up.
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 03:39 PM
Why exactly did Jaded think he wouldn't die if SM was the bomb?
I remember him bringing that up and me not really buying it at the time...
Being bulletproof or protected somehow at night has no bearing on the day.
eayragt
04-12-2010, 03:43 PM
Why exactly did Jaded think he wouldn't die if SM was the bomb?
I remember him bringing that up and me not really buying it at the time...
Being bulletproof or protected somehow at night has no bearing on the day.
Jaded's going to come back to life. Trust me. What, with him saying that's how his ability works.
I dont even understand your symmetry. How is two well built groups and a random, turned deep into the game two person scum group even begin to be symmetry?
Thats some silly goose logic.
At this point, with SM dead and town, you and Bak once again are the most likely scum IMO.
Pending the night phase and a kill/lack of kill with Astil locked up.
Uh huh. We have been on the page during this game. Both of us stood well back when MichaganHero was being lynched. But now I see us not quite so much on the same page. And not just because I think you might be scum... and vice versa.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 03:44 PM
He said he would die.
And that he'd be back tomorrow.
I guess we'll see.
petrija
04-12-2010, 03:46 PM
Why exactly did Jaded think he wouldn't die if SM was the bomb?
I remember him bringing that up and me not really buying it at the time...
Being bulletproof or protected somehow at night has no bearing on the day.
He never said he wouldn't die. He said he would come back once he did.
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 03:49 PM
Thanks everyone for clearing that up... :p I thought he'd said he was bulletproof or something.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 03:50 PM
Uh huh. We have been on the page during this game. Both of us stood well back when MichaganHero was being lynched. But now I see us not quite so much on the same page. And not just because I think you might be scum... and vice versa.
Were you really that sure SM was town or something?
Who is your character again?
Anyway, you're clearly being silly. We've killed no one and Pets other two targets were strongly considered scum. Yeah, we're SOOOOOOO evil.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 03:57 PM
Were you really that sure SM was town or something?
Who is your character again?
Anyway, you're clearly being silly. We've killed no one and Pets other two targets were strongly considered scum. Yeah, we're SOOOOOOO evil.
If she goes out and attacks again without killing, one might could assume its not an attack at all, but a recruitment.
Which is not a route I want to go.
Honestly.. all the write ups, the mason groups, 2 scum groups, nearly half the players in the game being Marvel or DC... it was obvious what this game was about. I just cannot see it being changed into something else now, especially with precious little shown in the write ups.
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 03:57 PM
I'm disappointed in the outcome of the last day (we lost a useful role and wasted Jaded's power), but SM was the best choice available.
I was getting second thoughts, but I had the same feelings about M-ded.
Then again, I had the same feelings about MH...
This game is huurrrrrrd... :(
Anyway, I'm interested in bak42... I couldn't have been sure he was even playing until I saw GM's list...
What has he proven about himself?
I'm also still unsure about 'Banger. Can anyone vouch for him?
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 04:00 PM
If she goes out and attacks again without killing, one might could assume its not an attack at all, but a recruitment.
Which is not a route I want to go.
Honestly.. all the write ups, the mason groups, 2 scum groups, nearly half the players in the game being Marvel or DC... it was obvious what this game was about. I just cannot see it being changed into something else now, especially with precious little shown in the write ups.
We can't consider a cult. There's no cult. If there is, we'd best just go about business as usual because focusing on the concept is a shot in the dark as it is.
We're already bordering on the scum limit. Don't get paranoid over a cult and start lynching aimlessly.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:01 PM
And note, I'm not accusing. I am just trying to make sense out of this.
If the game is DA/AA and they have people left, there should of been at least one kill, if not maybe two.
If the groups had ended up merging or something, ya figure it would at least be shown in a write up. Or Mded's/Prophet's role titles would have changed.
Eayragt, is there any reason now for you to not character claim? Or should Pet be paying you a visit tonight?
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
Grunt you got an item the other night. What, if anything, have you done with it?
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
If she goes out and attacks again without killing, one might could assume its not an attack at all, but a recruitment.
Which is not a route I want to go.
Honestly.. all the write ups, the mason groups, 2 scum groups, nearly half the players in the game being Marvel or DC... it was obvious what this game was about. I just cannot see it being changed into something else now, especially with precious little shown in the write ups.
But its not.
I would hope she is "healed" or whatever and is done assualting people.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:04 PM
We can't consider a cult. There's no cult. If there is, we'd best just go about business as usual because focusing on the concept is a shot in the dark as it is.
We're already bordering on the scum limit. Don't get paranoid over a cult and start lynching aimlessly.
Then where are the kills, since we know SM was town and therefore not a killer...
If there's scum remaining and they don't kill, then what kind of scum are they?
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 04:04 PM
Grunt you got an item the other night. What, if anything, have you done with it?
Nothing.
I was saving it for any night Petrija might not be around to protect me. Pretty sure it'd keep me safe for the night.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 04:06 PM
Then where are the kills, since we know SM was town and therefore not a killer...
If there's scum remaining and they don't kill, then what kind of scum are they?
I laid out the possibilties. As remote as it seemed then, if DA is dead and AA's new don was Ivy...would explain no kills.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:07 PM
I laid out the possibilties. As remote as it seemed then, if DA is dead and AA's new don was Ivy...would explain no kills.
That would mean 4 DA's and 5 AA's.
Doesn't seem likely to me, given everything else.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:09 PM
That would mean 4 DA's and 5 AA's.
Doesn't seem likely to me, given everything else.
And yet, that may be the deal. A lesson I've learned the hard way, never assume in these games.
crayon
04-12-2010, 04:14 PM
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Day 11
The mob gathered in the center of the town-square. They were relieved at the lack of deaths, yet still cautious and more than a little on edge.
One man had been walking around town with a t-shirt that said "BOMB" on it in capital letters. Naturally, everyone thought this was weird.
So they decided to kill him. Quickly, they dragged the man to the gallows. He pleaded with the crowd. "You'll regret this!"
Finally, one man stepped forward and kicked the chair out from under supermareo's feet. With a graphic and not-so-pg-friendly noise, his neck snapped...
And ...
Then ...
He ...
'SPLODED!!!
This incinerated the man nearest to him.
Quickly, another person was snatched up and hauled to jail.
supermareo is dead. He was 'Splosion Man, Justice Aligned Guy that Tends to Explode.
Jaded is dead.
Astil has been arrested. He is currently unable to speak in the thread.
/mutters under breath
/then remembers that he was also responsible for MH's lynch
Great thing is that we still don't have any leads.. although at the least Jaded is cleared
Thanks everyone for clearing that up... :p I thought he'd said he was bulletproof or something.
Nah, just that he would never REEEST INNN PEEEACE
I'm disappointed in the outcome of the last day (we lost a useful role and wasted Jaded's power), but SM was the best choice available.
I was getting second thoughts, but I had the same feelings about M-ded.
Then again, I had the same feelings about MH...
This game is huurrrrrrd... :(
Anyway, I'm interested in bak42... I couldn't have been sure he was even playing until I saw GM's list...
What has he proven about himself?
I'm also still unsure about 'Banger. Can anyone vouch for him?
He claimed using an ability which skipped Night... 7? (the one after lynching cancan). I thought the timing was curious but the ability does match his character claim, plus no one else seemed to have a problem with it, so take that for what you will.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 04:19 PM
I'm also still unsure about 'Banger. Can anyone vouch for him?
This was what I was wondering as well. I know Banger has claimed I think to be Wonder Woman but is there any body that can clear this up one way or the other?
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 04:25 PM
And note, I'm not accusing. I am just trying to make sense out of this.
If the game is DA/AA and they have people left, there should of been at least one kill, if not maybe two.
If the groups had ended up merging or something, ya figure it would at least be shown in a write up. Or Mded's/Prophet's role titles would have changed.
Eayragt, is there any reason now for you to not character claim? Or should Pet be paying you a visit tonight?
A) Maybe kills are optional and neither team saw a reason to not kill until last night...?
B) Someone was somehow roleblocked without us seeing (that'd be a jerk move).
or, most likely:
C) The part of the write-up we see was a failed attempt at killing by DA (Daken?) and the other group either can't kill anymore or needs to regroup.
We'll know after tonight what's up.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 04:26 PM
1. Antithesis
3. Astil
4. bak42
5. BHK1978
6. Bluestar / petrija
11. Eayragt
14. GruntMark
16. iMac
21. mjdgoldeneye
22. moon_lit_tears
25. Sean McFly / crayon
32. Wallbanger
Looking at this list, I have to say that I am not sure about:
Astil
MLT
Banger
crayon
And I am on the fence on:
bak
Eayragt
So as you can see my list is big. Man do I suck at these games...
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:27 PM
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Night 8
His eyes were closed. Slowly, a devious smile spread across his face. "It's time."
And then he opened his eyes.
***********************************
***********************************
Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 seconds later...
***********************************
***********************************
The woman grabbed the package, which was heavier than expected and walked inside. She wasn't expecting any deliveries tonight and was quite curious as to what it was. Her curiosity would have to be delayed however, as the building began to shake. Slowly, vines and limbs tore through the walls and moving towards her.
Deftly, and still holding the package, she dodged one vine and then another. A smaller vine crawled up from behind and attached itself to her ankle. This caused the woman to trip and fall to the ground as she tried to make a run for it. The shaking grew louder and, at this point, would better be described as rumbling. Slowly, a massive tree root emerged through the floor and positioned itself above the woman's head.
Things did not look good.
*CRASH*
At a speed that can only be described as inhuman, the figure darted through a window and snapped the massive root of the ground and tossed it to the side. With a surprisingly gentle motion, the figure reached down and offered the woman his hand. Quickly, he pulled her into his arms and darted out of the building, dodging all of the insidious plant-life along the way.
Four blocks were covered in four seconds. He set the woman, still holding her package, down, and turned to head back to the scene. He wouldn't make it, however...
*BZZPT!*
... as another figure, from an impressive distance, would blast him in the face with a burst of energy. The unlikely hero dropped to the ground, his face and upper torso scorched. Miraculously, he was still alive, though in this condition, he might not be for long.
And so the woman would return the favor immediately, as she grabbed him by the arm and pulled him to safety.
***********************************
***********************************
Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 feet away...
***********************************
***********************************
He opened the door to his makeshift workshop and walked in. It was a successful night, but he still had some more work to do. After tossing his trench coat on a nearby couch, he sat at his workbench and grabbed a soldering iron. Just as he activated the device, he felt something wrench inside of him. He dropped the tool and stumbled away from the desk, feeling out of breath. He grabbed at his chest. What... was...
With a wrenched look on his face, Waghlon fell to the floor.
-------------------------------------------
Waghlon is dead. He was Donatello, Justice Aligned Ninja Turtle.
petrija is injured, hospitalized and may not participate in the thread.
crayon has been released and may participate in the thread.
Eayragt killing Waghlon
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 04:27 PM
This was what I was wondering as well. I know Banger has claimed I think to be Wonder Woman but is there any body that can clear this up one way or the other?
I would assume Anti could.
I have also been assuming he could clear the other person missing a character claim.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:28 PM
I would assume Anti could.
I have also been assuming he could clear the other person missing a character claim.
Then I would assume you've actually been playing the game, unlike some people.... :D
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 04:28 PM
To be honest, aside from me, there not anyone I can say is absolutely and definitely town.
The simple fact that a few people are still around cancels out a lot of the townie-ness aura around them.
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 04:30 PM
Maybe there's an anime-based mini group left...?
If eayragt is scum of a color we haven't yet encountered, filling in the rest of the group should be easy.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 04:31 PM
Then I would assume you've actually been playing the game, unlike some people.... :D
I have said in the past unless the evidence is like right there in my face, I have no clue what is going on.:o:D
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:31 PM
A) Maybe kills are optional and neither team saw a reason to not kill until last night...?
B) Someone was somehow roleblocked without us seeing (that'd be a jerk move).
or, most likely:
C) The part of the write-up we see was a failed attempt at killing by DA (Daken?) and the other group either can't kill anymore or needs to regroup.
We'll know after tonight what's up.
A) Optional scum kills in a semi dark game? Lets just give up now
B) No claimed blcokers left, so I doubt it
C) Possible. Will become a certainty though after tonight if this is the case.
crayon
04-12-2010, 04:31 PM
Eayragt killing Waghlon
Is there a question mark which is supposed to go with this, or is it an "ah-hah, I discovered something!" statement?
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:35 PM
Eayragt killing Waghlon
I should specify, this is why Eayragt hasn't claimed and hasn't submitted a full list of targets.
This is most likely Eayragt powering up Waghlon and it going awry. Maybe Wag was working on some kind of lethal device?
Assuming Eayragt is town...
That he hasn't character claimed means
1 He's scum
or
2 He's got a lynchbait character
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 04:35 PM
Is there a question mark which is supposed to go with this, or is it an "ah-hah, I discovered something!" statement?
I dunno, you're the anime Guy..
Who could Eayragt's character be?
crayon
04-12-2010, 04:40 PM
I dunno, you're the anime Guy..
Who could Eayragt's character be?
I haven't exactly got a lot to go on... if there was some more information on how he powered people up I might be able to figure something out, but I'm drawing a blank. I guess I wouldn't be surprised to see that sort of ability from a magical school girl, but that could be anything from sailor moon to my avatar
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 04:42 PM
Looking at this list, I have to say that I am not sure about:
Astil
MLT
Banger
crayon
And I am on the fence on:
bak
Eayragt
So as you can see my list is big. Man do I suck at these games...
*sigh* lets go over this AGAIN!
The evidence of me being town is IN YOUR FACE.
One of the best players in the game (ONE OF) knew who I was, left me alone. Died being a simply put Marvel based mason for the town. NOW if I were scum would he have let me go?
Either you answer No, or you answer He was stupid to let you go. Make your own decision.
BTW BHK that is not directed directly at you but to anyone who is still questioning my loyalty to the town.
crayon
04-12-2010, 04:46 PM
*sigh* lets go over this AGAIN!
The evidence of me being town is IN YOUR FACE.
One of the best players in the game (ONE OF) knew who I was, left me alone. Died being a simply put Marvel based mason for the town. NOW if I were scum would he have let me go?
Either you answer No, or you answer He was stupid to let you go. Make your own decision.
BTW BHK that is not directed directly at you but to anyone who is still questioning my loyalty to the town.
To be fair, there was no mention from Derek B of knowing who you were. I asked if you both got to see each other, and the most I can remember him saying something to the effect of "she's not going after me, so for now that puts her in the clear". I'll go see if I can pull the quote
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 04:48 PM
To be fair, there was no mention from Derek B of knowing who you were. I asked if you both got to see each other, and the most I can remember him saying something to the effect of "she's not going after me, so for now that puts her in the clear". I'll go see if I can pull the quote
Actually he pretty much said he got what he needed from me. Goes along with what I am told of him getting my role.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 04:48 PM
Then I would assume you've actually been playing the game, unlike some people.... :D
This is especially funny right now. :D
Anyway, pretty crestfallen about SM. I was really starting to think we had it wrapped up. Im still pretty confident the town is going to win, but I was ready to celebrate!
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 04:48 PM
To be fair, there was no mention from Derek B of knowing who you were. I asked if you both got to see each other, and the most I can remember him saying something to the effect of "she's not going after me, so for now that puts her in the clear". I'll go see if I can pull the quote
Also if you don't know Dereks play style. Go read day 1 of Sunnydale. :p then come back and tell me what you think of Derek towards me this game.
crayon
04-12-2010, 04:54 PM
Some rather silly questions up there... but to answer some of them, given that myself and MLT are both female in the write up that really narrows down the list of potential scum either of us could be. :cool: I'm not inclined to push MLT at the moment because of that, the feeling seems to be mutual.
I do have some people I plan to ask some questions to during the next day phase, so if I end up silenced this time you'll know it's not me doing it to myself. :p
I doubt she is. The night Arrows died he seemed to be redirected by a sweet scent, which I believe is Poison Ivy using her ability on him at night. MLT was sitting at home doing nothing when I burst in on her and ended up silencing us both. I doubt scum would waste a chance to cause chaos with an ability like that, so MLT seems to be in the clear in my own opinion.
Doesn't rule out me though. :p
And I've got no idea who MLT actually is, but of all the likely scum characters I don't believe her to be one. There's always a chance I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but my gut says to leave her alone. A girl sitting home alone is hardly threatening. :p
So yeah, no indication that he knew who you were at all. Although to be fair, he did also say you seem fine. Plus there's the whole you're a female thing.. and DA/AA shouldn't have any more females in their crew
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 04:56 PM
So yeah, no indication that he knew who you were at all. Although to be fair, he did also say you seem fine. Plus there's the whole you're a female thing.. and DA/AA shouldn't have any more females in their crew
Never take what you read at it's face value. Derek knew who I was.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 04:58 PM
Then I would assume you've actually been playing the game, unlike some people.... :D
This is especially funny right now. :D
Well one could question if you guys are playing the game as well with the whole lynching of SM and MH...;)
No need to be snarky.:D
crayon
04-12-2010, 05:00 PM
Never take what you read at it's face value. Derek knew who I was.
That may be so, but then you also can't turn around and use it as an excuse to lamblast BHK or whoever for finding you suspicious. I doubt you're scum due to the female fact, but claiming insider knowledge as evidence isn't exactly a solid defense
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:04 PM
Well one could question if you guys are playing the game as well with the whole lynching of SM and MH...;)
No need to be snarky.:D
I see your name next to MH and SM's lynch as well. :D
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:04 PM
Well one could question if you guys are playing the game as well with the whole lynching of SM and MH...;)
No need to be snarky.:D
Well...I never said I was perfect.
I feel a bit bad about SM, buuuut...the last thing a townie bomb wants to do is play themselves into getting mislynched. Its a hard role to prove up (without dying), but with two scum groups killing, he could have made some effort to make himself a target and take out one of their hitmen with him.
I dont understand why make the bomb claim then do nothing with it.
But thats probably better left for the Mafia Discussion thread.
BHK1978
04-12-2010, 05:06 PM
Well...I never said I was perfect.
I feel a bit bad about SM, buuuut...the last thing a townie bomb wants to do is play themselves into getting mislynched. Its a hard role to prove up (without dying), but with two scum groups killing, he could have made some effort to make himself a target and take out one of their hitmen with him.
I dont understand why make the bomb claim then do nothing with it.
But thats probably better left for the Mafia Discussion thread.
I just chalk it up to the way he plays.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:08 PM
I just chalk it up to the way he plays.
/nod
Sometimes we all get stuck with roles that dont really suit our strengths. Im not blaming him, but Im not really ready to blame all of us either.
Except the scum (if any) who voted on him.
Cause they knew the truth.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Okay theory time.
Bak42 is Mr Freeze.
Why?
-If Ivy was the new don, that would explain the lack of an AA kill last night. Which means he had motive to skip the night phase following The Jokers death.
-If Ivy was don she was doing her own kills because they knew any ice themed kills would quickly be linked back to Bak.
moon_lit_tears
04-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Like I said that was not directly at BHK.
Anyine that knows how Derek and I play would catch on.
Ok bowling, lets say you folks get your PMs in so we can finsh this.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:25 PM
Like I said that was not directly at BHK.
Anyine that knows how Derek and I play would catch on.
Ok bowling, lets say you folks get your PMs in so we can finsh this.
I see Anti is sending in the scum kill now.
;)
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:29 PM
Okay theory time.
Bak42 is Mr Freeze.
Why?
-If Ivy was the new don, that would explain the lack of an AA kill last night. Which means he had motive to skip the night phase following The Jokers death.
-If Ivy was don she was doing her own kills because they knew any ice themed kills would quickly be linked back to Bak.
Yeah but.. thats 5 AAs.
Should (I know I know.. should) mean 5 DA's.
We were due a Marvel kill last night.
Theory Time
4 AA 4 DA Both Scum groups dead.
Third party scum remains.
5 AA 4 DA
AA Killer will be out tonight
5 AA 5 DA.. missing a marvel kill from last night. This seems to implicate Petrija who attacked Crayon, or Crayon whow as somehow blocked by Petrija's attack
But If that were true I am sure Petrija would have said something... right?
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:30 PM
I see Anti is sending in the scum kill now.
;)
Actually.. nah I better not say.
Town can still win this. Just depends on what happens tonight.
I'll leave it at that.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:37 PM
To walk this down hypothetical road.
IF Petrija were DA or AA, then I must be one to? Agreed?
However, I am obviously a female character. And I was obviously nearly killed by Ivy, so I am not AA and DA is out of women characters. (Excluding a convoluted theory were I had a team mate attack me, could communicate with the other team and instruct them to use their protector to protect me from my own team....yeah, thats silly. Oh, and then I basically bused both dons to look good.)
Yeah, either someone got blocked and it failed to make the writeup for the first time ever, they can choose not to kill and held back figuring we'd lynch SM, or the groups had an uneven scum count to start.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:38 PM
Yeah but.. thats 5 AAs.
Should (I know I know.. should) mean 5 DA's.
We were due a Marvel kill last night.
Theory Time
4 AA 4 DA Both Scum groups dead.
Third party scum remains.
5 AA 4 DA
AA Killer will be out tonight
5 AA 5 DA.. missing a marvel kill from last night. This seems to implicate Petrija who attacked Crayon, or Crayon whow as somehow blocked by Petrija's attack
But If that were true I am sure Petrija would have said something... right?
Addendum
6 AA 6 DA
Scum have communicated.
Scum waste cross night attacks targetting their respective protectors. Grunt and Petrija protect one another to build the Hellsing fake claim.
This leaves Daken/Void Eitehr of whom could be Petrija on the Marvel Side
Since one DC scum is female. Perhaps Lady Shiva. The otehr remaining DC.. I dunno
With new Marvel Don in place, Petrija the protector becomes the killer, but Crayon is spared, perhaps because Crayon is the Marvel Don.
The New DC killer will start tonight.
If this is true, scum will basically win the game.
How's that for a theory
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:40 PM
Note, I'm not accusing.
TBH DWW, Rev and I have worked on games before and all, I got nothin but the utmost respect for em.
But if there were two scum groups of 6 a piece and the write ups how they are. Honestly I dunno how we could have won, anyway.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:43 PM
Note, I'm not accusing.
TBH DWW, Rev and I have worked on games before and all, I got nothin but the utmost respect for em.
But if there were two scum groups of 6 a piece and the write ups how they are. Honestly I dunno how we could have won, anyway.
Would it make you feel better if I told you I passed up an oppertunity to (potentially) kill you today?
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:48 PM
Would it make you feel better if I told you I passed up an oppertunity to (potentially) kill you today?
Wouldn't bother me at this point.
I'd rather die than do another Lakeside where I'm stuck going from townie leader to being accused and not being able to stop the inevitable.
That was bad enough, then afterwards everyone posting about 'hahaha you had no clue'...
I've had a good game, all in all. I'd rather die being able to point to that then spend another phase or two mislynching townies and then not being able to do anything.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:51 PM
I've had a good game, all in all. I'd rather die being able to point to that then spend another phase or two mislynching townies and then not being able to do anything.
/nod
I actually think I have to. Its been fun knocking ideas back and forth with you.
But I could have left you hanging as the last vote on SM. ;) I put my faith in Jaded.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:55 PM
Thought Grunt was gonna reply.. oh well.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:56 PM
Thought Grunt was gonna reply.. oh well.
Uh, to what now?
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:57 PM
/nod
I actually think I have to. Its been fun knocking ideas back and forth with you.
But I could have left you hanging as the last vote on SM. ;) I put my faith in Jaded.
Been wondering where the votes mainpulations have been.
Its been clean voting all game.
So you and Petrija are Vigs/ Protectors and vote manipulators? Thats a nice lil bundle of talents.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 05:57 PM
Uh, to what now?
You were replying and then left.... and then ya came back
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 05:59 PM
Its been clean voting all game.
Nope.
CanCans I think? Or Masterded maybe.
Which ever one you and MJD were fighting towards the end of? I got nervous MJD would run off and drag voters with him, so I greased the wheels a bit.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 06:00 PM
Nope.
CanCans I think? Or Masterded maybe.
Which ever one you and MJD were fighting towards the end of? I got nervous MJD would run off and drag voters with him, so I greased the wheels a bit.
Guessing you arent a big Marvel fan? :D
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 06:04 PM
Guessing you arent a big Marvel fan? :D
I dont get it.
So I guess not.
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 06:06 PM
Addendum
6 AA 6 DA
Scum have communicated.
Scum waste cross night attacks targetting their respective protectors. Grunt and Petrija protect one another to build the Hellsing fake claim.
This leaves Daken/Void Eitehr of whom could be Petrija on the Marvel Side
Since one DC scum is female. Perhaps Lady Shiva. The otehr remaining DC.. I dunno
With new Marvel Don in place, Petrija the protector becomes the killer, but Crayon is spared, perhaps because Crayon is the Marvel Don.
The New DC killer will start tonight.
If this is true, scum will basically win the game.
How's that for a theory
I don't see why one of the DA roles would be left out, so I'd bet it's 6/5 or 6/6.
Regardless, I am pretty sure the game isn't over and I'm positive there aren't 12 communicating scum... That would be the worst modding decision in history...
Looking at the list, I can see pretty much any townie questioning the alignment of any other player this far into the game...
If the worst isn't reality, that's actually good modding.
Question for Anti: When you find out people are Marvel, what do you find out? Is it possible you find Marvel villains as Marvel...? I used to know this, but my memory slowly decays.
I can't help but think 'Banger is scum. He's just been sort of hanging in the shadows for the whole game.
We need full disclosure of what we collectively do.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 06:06 PM
I dont get it.
So I guess not.
Maybe MJ does.
Anything you wanna say MJ?
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 06:07 PM
Maybe MJ does.
Anything you wanna say MJ?
No, not that I'm aware of.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 06:09 PM
I don't see why one of the DA roles would be left out, so I'd bet it's 6/5 or 6/6.
Regardless, I am pretty sure the game isn't over and I'm positive there aren't 12 communicating scum... That would be the worst modding decision in history...
Looking at the list, I can see pretty much any townie questioning the alignment of any other player this far into the game...
If the worst isn't reality, that's actually good modding.
Question for Anti: When you find out people are Marvel, what do you find out? Is it possible you find Marvel villains as Marvel...? I used to know this, but my memory slowly decays.
I can't help but think 'Banger is scum. He's just been sort of hanging in the shadows for the whole game.
We need full disclosure of what we collectively do.
All thats been explained in the past. Apparently the only person that gets it is the same one who said he could have killed me today. :eek:
Not saying it to be snooty. Just wouldn't be good to go over this again during a night phase.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 06:10 PM
Regardless, I am pretty sure the game isn't over and I'm positive there aren't 12 communicating scum... That would be the worst modding decision in history....
A good point.
They did kill some of each other, though Anti seems to be taking credit for some of that.
Im sticking with, its down to a couple people. Maybe just one.
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 06:11 PM
All thats been explained in the past. Apparently the only person that gets it is the same one who said he could have killed me today. :eek:
Not saying it to be snooty. Just wouldn't be good to go over this again during a night phase.
I'm pretty much worthless and picking apart who's scum this time. I've put a lot into trusting others to do that for me and we haven't totally failed yet.
I fear it'll come down to me having to make an actual decision...
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 06:14 PM
All thats been explained in the past. Apparently the only person that gets it is the same one who said he could have killed me today. :eek:
Could have. ;)
And thats just a fun conincedence with you being vote 7.
I would have totally done it to some other people, even if I thought they were town. WC. UFC. Jman. Probably Destiny.
Just for laughs. :p
(or...probably not....I guess. Maybe.)
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 06:15 PM
A good point.
They did kill some of each other, though Anti seems to be taking credit for some of that.
Im sticking with, its down to a couple people. Maybe just one.
I've said it before but, there was a point where the Marvel and DC masons were in contact with one another. It was temporary, but information was exchanged.
Its not a stretch to think scum could have done the same at some point.
Evidence, while small... Masterded. CLaims he investigated Prophet and that Prophet wasn't a threat. Prophet, claims he tracked Masterded and that Mded targgeted MJ as Masterded claimed.
Thats a lil too cosy for my comfort. To overlook the possibility of collusion, at this point, well, it would be a mistake.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 06:19 PM
I've said it before but, there was a point where the Marvel and DC masons were in contact with one another. It was temporary, but information was exchanged.
Its not a stretch to think scum could have done the same at some point.
Evidence, while small... Masterded. CLaims he investigated Prophet and that Prophet wasn't a threat. Prophet, claims he tracked Masterded and that Mded targgeted MJ as Masterded claimed.
Thats a lil too cosy for my comfort. To overlook the possibility of collusion, at this point, well, it would be a mistake.
I can agree with that...but sometimes they just...they know, you know?
Like in Lakeside, Arrows and MNN were teamed up (mostly against me) by day two, despite being scum who couldnt communicate outside the thread.
Alot of that is the advantage of information they already hold.
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 06:21 PM
Alot of that is the advantage of information they already hold.
Which is something I should have realized waaaaay back in SWM2. I shouldnt have been so excited about looking for Imperial lies.
Wallbanger
04-12-2010, 09:08 PM
I can't help but think 'Banger is scum. He's just been sort of hanging in the shadows for the whole game.
You're just jealous that I'm hotter than Princess Peach. :p
mjdgoldeneye
04-12-2010, 09:22 PM
You're just jealous that I'm hotter than Princess Peach. :p
**Shakes Fist**
petrija
04-12-2010, 09:31 PM
But its not.
I would hope she is "healed" or whatever and is done assualting people.
It only occurred twice because the first night I failed. I'm healed and I'm fine. No more attacking.
Nothing.
I was saving it for any night Petrija might not be around to protect me. Pretty sure it'd keep me safe for the night.
...I wish I'd known that.
Been wondering where the votes mainpulations have been.
Its been clean voting all game.
So you and Petrija are Vigs/ Protectors and vote manipulators? Thats a nice lil bundle of talents.
But wait! There's MORE!
...I'm not telling. :p
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 09:46 PM
It only occurred twice because the first night I failed. I'm healed and I'm fine. No more attacking.
...I wish I'd known that.
But wait! There's MORE!
...I'm not telling. :p
One thing, just to be clear. When you attacked Crayon, could that have "blocked" him somehow?
If there is surviving Marvel Scum, and you're town, then they didn't get a kill last night...
petrija
04-12-2010, 09:58 PM
One thing, just to be clear. When you attacked Crayon, could that have "blocked" him somehow?
If there is surviving Marvel Scum, and you're town, then they didn't get a kill last night...
Yes. I was told that the person I chose to heal from would be roleblocked.
petrija
04-12-2010, 09:59 PM
Yes. I was told that the person I chose to heal from would be roleblocked.
...Sorry I didn't mention that before.
Antithesis
04-12-2010, 10:46 PM
...Sorry I didn't mention that before.
well gee, thanks
GruntMark
04-12-2010, 10:54 PM
...I wish I'd known that.
Haha...sorry.
And its really just a guess. Probably a pretty good one though. :D
I just couldnt think of a tactiful way to say "Hey, if you kill Petrija I'll be alright for an extra night!"
crayon
04-12-2010, 11:51 PM
Setting up another internet server in my house, so I may be without the net for the rest of the night, depending how things go. Will be back to check in on the night's preceedings tomorrow morning, regardless
d_w_w
04-12-2010, 11:55 PM
It is now Night Phase 11. You have until 3:10 pm EDT / 8:10 pm BST to send in your night PMs. If your ability is optional and you would like to not use it, let us know that as well. Please send all PMS to:
d_w_w ; Imarevenant
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 12:19 AM
You guys must enjoy messing with me! Making me have to read all of these post during the night phase!!!
Don't you guys and girls know that the night phase is for posting bad music and dumb posts (well for me the day phase is for that as well)! Shame on you all!!!:D
moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 01:13 AM
You guys must enjoy messing with me! Making me have to read all of these post during the night phase!!!
Don't you guys and girls know that the night phase is for posting bad music and dumb posts (well for me the day phase is for that as well)! Shame on you all!!!:D
Pfffft
/hides again.
eayragt
04-13-2010, 02:29 AM
Yes. I was told that the person I chose to heal from would be roleblocked.
I'm glad I missed a long night discussion on diffeerent theories and whether symmetry or not exists (and I'll stick to my guns saying it does) without that one bit of information that could explain everything :rolleyes:.
Anyways, had a skim through and there's been plenty of questions for me. To many to quickly type an answer for, so I'll deliver a properly constructed answer in an hour or so.
eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:32 AM
I dont even understand your symmetry. How is two well built groups and a random, turned deep into the game two person scum group even begin to be symmetry?
Thats some silly goose logic.
Silly goose logic? We'll see when the game ends and there's exactly the same aount of hero DC and Marvels, and evil DC and Marvel.
Eayragt, is there any reason now for you to not character claim? Or should Pet be paying you a visit tonight?
No reason not to claim - Yuki Nagato, Justice Aligned Bibliophile.
Eayragt killing Waghlon
Uh huh. Or... not.
I should specify, this is why Eayragt hasn't claimed and hasn't submitted a full list of targets.
This is most likely Eayragt powering up Waghlon and it going awry. Maybe Wag was working on some kind of lethal device?
Assuming Eayragt is town...
That he hasn't character claimed means
1 He's scum
or
2 He's got a lynchbait character
Or possibly neither. I wouldn't say my character's lynchbait, quite so much as it's one anime character of hundreds in the month, and I have no evidence to prove it's not a fake claim. So while not lynch bait, not anything that's going to make the town go "oh, that's okay, lets look at those other two targets that we've got".
And I have submitted a full list of targets. I had a conversation with you several days ago saying how I couldn't go out overy night, but for clarity, you don't know what I was doing on nights 2, 3, 5, 7 and 9. Because I wasn't doing anything.
As for the one discrepancy in there - I chose not to go out on Night 3. After I'd silenced Jaded on the same phase that Nedew was silenced, I didn't want to use my power randomly as I thought the silencing could do more damage than any gains I was given. By the next phase I decided that actually I needed to find out how my power worked a bit better, and I knew the perfect target who would likely tell me.
petrija
04-13-2010, 09:42 AM
I'm glad I missed a long night discussion on diffeerent theories and whether symmetry or not exists (and I'll stick to my guns saying it does) without that one bit of information that could explain everything :rolleyes:.
Because I'm sure you've never forgotten anything, ever. Of course not.
eayragt
04-13-2010, 10:04 AM
Because I'm sure you've never forgotten anything, ever. Of course not.
Wasn't a dig. There could have just as easily been a discussion last night based around a theory that related to killers and Jaded getting silenced on Night 1, and then I would have been the guilty one of having a key piece of info that invalidated most of the conversation.
bak42
04-13-2010, 10:22 AM
/nod
Sometimes we all get stuck with roles that dont really suit our strengths.Yeah, like me and any ability that involves being targeted.:D
Okay theory time.
Bak42 is Mr Freeze.
Why?
-If Ivy was the new don, that would explain the lack of an AA kill last night. Which means he had motive to skip the night phase following The Jokers death.
-If Ivy was don she was doing her own kills because they knew any ice themed kills would quickly be linked back to Bak.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/bak42/notagain-1.jpg
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 10:39 AM
Oh don't give me that. If you do scummy things (like skip a night RIGHT AFTER everyone is speculating we just killed the don of one of the groups), then you should expect to get scrutinized.
That's the nature of the game.
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 01:44 PM
You know what the funny thing is for me, seeing Grunt and eayragt going at it. Why?
Because I always think both are Scum in every game I have played with them in it. Just for the simple fact that it seems to be true for every game that I have played with them in it.
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 01:50 PM
You know what the funny thing is for me, seeing Grunt and eayragt going at it. Why?
Because I always think both are Scum in every game I have played with them in it. Just for the simple fact that it seems to be true for every game that I have played with them in it.
Hah...lately I have drawn the scum card quite a bit.
And usually when I get town, I dont live especially long. Like Pokemon, I was pretty excited for that game. Then everyone killed me night 1.
Course, usually I dont have a protector basically assigned to me. Thanks Petrija. ;)
moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 01:53 PM
Hah...lately I have drawn the scum card quite a bit.
And usually when I get town, I dont live especially long. Like Pokemon, I was pretty excited for that game. Then everyone killed me night 1.
Course, usually I dont have a protector basically assigned to me. Thanks Petrija. ;)
I never get to be scum. :(
eayragt
04-13-2010, 01:53 PM
You know what the funny thing is for me, seeing Grunt and eayragt going at it. Why?
Because I always think both are Scum in every game I have played with them in it. Just for the simple fact that it seems to be true for every game that I have played with them in it.
I probably have been scum in every game we've both been in... previously. Until now (obviously) I haven't been town since... Sci Fi Chaos, I think (although I'm not exactly the most prolific player around).
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 01:58 PM
Yeah I usually loop you two in with Gabbo as the always Mafia people (and after this game it looks like Prophet should be added to the list as well.:D)
And for me Bluestar and MLT are usually town.
It is weird how that works.
moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 02:00 PM
Yeah I usually loop you two in with Gabbo as the always Mafia people (and after this game it looks like Prophet should be added to the list as well.:D)
And for me Bluestar and MLT are usually town.
It is weird how that works.
Seriously I have been given a town role from every game. (excluding sk in Simpsons and scum in two micros)
The kicker is, I was given a role in Dark Wing Duck but had to back out because SOMEONE not gonna say who but (jman) sent me a pm instead of IER. :D
Even then I was town. :D
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:02 PM
And for me Bluestar and MLT are usually town.
Interesting problem...
Seeing as how Bluestars role got passed to Petrija this game! :eek:
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:04 PM
Seriously I have been given a town role from every game. (excluding sk in Simpsons and scum in two micros)
The kicker is, I was given a role in Dark Wing Duck but had to back out because SOMEONE not gonna say who but (jman) sent me a pm instead of IER. :D
Even then I was town. :D
LOL
What a noob.
He musta just hasd you on his mind. :p
Its too bad, I was counting on you presuring everyone above CBot and me on the list to stepping aside. Your reward woulda been the best scum role ever. And now Ive deleted it from my spreadsheet.
moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 02:08 PM
LOL
What a noob.
He musta just hasd you on his mind. :p
Its too bad, I was counting on you presuring everyone above CBot and me on the list to stepping aside. Your reward woulda been the best scum role ever. And now Ive deleted it from my spreadsheet.
Well can you blame him? :p
I don't want to be scum. :p Ok well I do just once.
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 02:12 PM
Just wanted to add I see TBP down there and he is on my always town list as well. Now this does not mean I trust or mistrust you guys and girl but it just means that the vast majority of the time those are the roles you seem to get in games that I have been in with you.
moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 02:15 PM
Just wanted to add I see TBP down there and he is on my always town list as well. Now this does not mean I trust or mistrust you guys and girl but it just means that the vast majority of the time those are the roles you seem to get in games that I have been in with you.
Who says I'm a girl? :p
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:15 PM
Okay...
So I think night phase has ended. So before the writeup, I want to say...
I dont feel like Astil is scum. Too much of what happened between him and JMan strongly suggests he is a DBZ character (any DBZ character) and wouldnt be aligned with one of the scum groups.
Crayon doesnt seem likely as a missing kill, roleblocked by Petrija or not, he wasnt written as going out for the night to kill folks. And those of us at home have been pretty consistently at home in our appearances.
Though I guess that would raise the question of why Jaded appeared to be out and about. Hmm.
moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 02:17 PM
Okay...
I dont feel like Astil is scum. Too much of what happened between him and JMan strongly suggests he is a DBZ character (any DBZ character) and wouldnt be aligned with one of the scum groups.
.
I'm lost here. Jman wasn't scum. ?
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Okay...
So I think night phase has ended. So before the writeup, I want to say...
I dont feel like Astil is scum. Too much of what happened between him and JMan strongly suggests he is a DBZ character (any DBZ character) and wouldnt be aligned with one of the scum groups.
Crayon doesnt seem likely as a missing kill, roleblocked by Petrija or not, he wasnt written as going out for the night to kill folks. And those of us at home have been pretty consistently at home in our appearances.
Though I guess that would raise the question of why Jaded appeared to be out and about. Hmm.
Wait, when was Jaded out?
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:18 PM
I'm lost here. Jman wasn't scum. ?
He means when Jman (marvel thief) stole from astil and used the item on Prophet.
eayragt
04-13-2010, 02:19 PM
Though I guess that would raise the question of why Jaded appeared to be out and about. Hmm.
My question to Jaded would how did he know he was powered up on Night 2?
I don't want to think of him as scum as I've pegged him as town all game. But I've got to consider ithave two scum left I couldn't tell you for sure who they were.
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:21 PM
Wait, when was Jaded out?
He appeared to be out in the writeup Arrows assualted him in. (Marv bashed his head in with a car door...those are usually found outside)
Thats not proof, but its inconsistent with the writeups.
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 02:23 PM
So do you think that Jaded is being half honest about his role?
I mean Jaded is probably coming back because we did not get an alignment on Jaded character. However, knowing SM was not Scum maybe Jaded used his role to his advantage.
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:25 PM
So do you think that Jaded is being half honest about his role?
I dont know.
Its just something that occured to me when pondering Crayon's attack.
d_w_w
04-13-2010, 02:29 PM
Night phase is over.
Write-up coming.
d_w_w
04-13-2010, 02:31 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png
Night 11
He grabbed the unholy instrument from its hiding place and tossed it on his workspace. Tonight, it seems, was a night for experimentation.
What did he hope to learn? What was the value in this? Was this the right time for this sort of behavior? If he made an error, which admittedly, was extremely unlikely, it would be the end of him. Yet still, he pressed on.
Maybe this was a mistake. Maybe now was the time to make his move. No, he took a deep breath and convinced himself to stick with the plan.
He sat down and performed the experiment.
Exactly as he had expected.
***********************************
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Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 seconds later...
***********************************
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She spun the cord above her head and twisted it into the air with skill and grace. It draped over her target, then vanished into thin air.
Her target was completely unaware of the event.
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Astil has been released and may participate in the thread.
d_w_w
04-13-2010, 02:32 PM
PM's on the way.
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:36 PM
Aight. Gonna assume Marvel and DC scum are done.
And remaining scum don't kill.. so what does that leave us with?
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 02:38 PM
Are you saying there is an indy Scum left and they don't kill?
What would be the point of that kind of role (this is a newbie question because I have never seen this before)?
eayragt
04-13-2010, 02:39 PM
Aight. Gonna assume Marvel and DC scum are done.
And remaining scum don't kill.. so what does that leave us with?
Lynch the people with the least believable claim...
...crap.
Anyone notice a certain lack of a Deadman?
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:39 PM
If there's a cult recruiting, its been the most well hidden, least covered recruitments in the history of Mafia games at GDS...
If there's a lone scum left, then I don't see how he can win without killing or recruiting
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:40 PM
Are you saying there is an indy Scum left and they don't kill?
What would be the point of that kind of role (this is a newbie question because I have never seen this before)?
I don't see any point to it. Its an impossible role.
We're missing something.
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:40 PM
Are you saying there is an indy Scum left and they don't kill?
What would be the point of that kind of role (this is a newbie question because I have never seen this before)?
Maybe he was a possible recruit for either scum group and never got picked up?
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:41 PM
Lynch the people with the least believable claim...
...crap.
Anyone notice a certain lack of a Deadman?
Well if its scum that doesn't do anything...
then we are looking for someone who doesn't go out at night.
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:43 PM
Maybe he was a possible recruit for either scum group and never got picked up?
That's the best crazy theory I've heard yet.
And then there is Astil. Not that I want to keep lynching everyone we lock up...
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:44 PM
grunt, could this be the actual "evil" you once refferred to?
The mention of an unholy artifact..
Only thing I can figure is the Undertaker's Urn.
Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:46 PM
And yes,
where's Jaded?
BHK1978
04-13-2010, 02:48 PM
Wouldn't we be informed if he rose from the dead?
Or is it because this is a dark game we are not privy to that infromation?
GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:49 PM
grunt, could this be the actual "evil" you once refferred to?
The mention of an unholy artifact..
Only thing I can figure is the Undertaker's Urn.
Im just suppose to destroy evil, as thats the mission of the Hellsing Organization.
It doesnt specify what form evil might take. Ive just been assuming a cadre of supervillians was it.
And yeah. Jaded. Whats up with that?
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