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GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:49 PM
Wouldn't we be informed if he rose from the dead?

Or is it because this is a dark game we are not privy to that infromation?

We have to know who is and isnt in the game. Thats basic stuff.

Vote: Jaded

eayragt
04-13-2010, 02:50 PM
And yeah. Jaded. Whats up with that?

My only theory will be that he rises at the end of this phase. Otherwise, I'm out.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:50 PM
We have to know who is and isnt in the game. Thats basic stuff.

Vote: Jaded

Yeah, if DWW counts the vote, Jaded is still in, and one can assume, lynchable

eayragt
04-13-2010, 02:50 PM
We have to know who is and isnt in the game. Thats basic stuff.

Vote: Jaded

LOL. This is just so d_w_w can do a vote count:

Vote: Antithesis

:D

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:51 PM
My only theory will be that he rises at the end of this phase. Otherwise, I'm out.

Watch it take 3 days.

Until then we accomplish nothing.

Wallbanger
04-13-2010, 02:51 PM
Wouldn't we be informed if he rose from the dead?

Or is it because this is a dark game we are not privy to that infromation?

We'd have to be informed if he were allowed to participate in the thread.

That being said, he could be active, and barred from participating in the thread.

VOTE: Jaded

Mods, vote count please?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 02:51 PM
Im just suppose to destroy evil, as thats the mission of the Hellsing Organization.

It doesnt specify what form evil might take. Ive just been assuming a cadre of supervillians was it.

And yeah. Jaded. Whats up with that?

Nah think about it.

The masons vs the Mafias.. check

What are you and Alucard a check against? :eek:

eayragt
04-13-2010, 02:52 PM
Back in about half an hour, ready to take vote off.

Wallbanger
04-13-2010, 02:52 PM
/facepalm

At least we're thinking along the same lines...

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 02:52 PM
I think it is safe to say he is still in this game due to the fact that his role was not told to us after he hammered the vote. How long would he stay in the ground before he comes back?

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:54 PM
So its either...AA and DA are dead and some nebulous remaining scum remains.

Or DA is dead and AA missed a night kill following Ivys death and another because either 1) Astil was locked up or 2) Jaded was only kinda sorta dead.

Any major Bat villians that could fake their own death?

d_w_w
04-13-2010, 02:54 PM
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.

Antithesis -1 (eayragt)

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 02:54 PM
I think it is safe to say he is still in this game due to the fact that his role was not told to us after he hammered the vote. How long would he stay in the ground before he comes back?

Does mean nothing.

Other games have had *hidden* roles.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 02:55 PM
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.

Antithesis -1 (eayragt)

Well we can assume Jaded is not in this game at the moment.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:56 PM
Nah think about it.

The masons vs the Mafias.. check

What are you and Alucard a check against? :eek:

Hmm...I never really thought about it that way. I was thinking we had our hands full with DA and AA.

I know on paper Pet and I was a formable duo, but the no communication has been a major hindrance. I didnt even know for sure she could protect me until it actually happened. I just kinda had my fingers crossed that I had nailed the hints in my PM.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:57 PM
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.

Antithesis -1 (eayragt)

Sigh.

Vote: D_W_W

The one true villian.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 02:59 PM
So in the writeup, who was guy in the first half?

The second half is fairly transparent.

bak42
04-13-2010, 03:02 PM
Oh don't give me that. If you do scummy things (like skip a night RIGHT AFTER everyone is speculating we just killed the don of one of the groups), then you should expect to get scrutinized.

That's the nature of the game.We still don't know for certain that Joker actually was a Don, you're just assuming that.

So its either...AA and DA are dead and some nebulous remaining scum remains.

Or DA is dead and AA missed a night kill following Ivys death and another because either 1) Astil was locked up or 2) Jaded was only kinda sorta dead.

Any major Bat villians that could fake their own death?

Ra's al Ghul?

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:09 PM
Ra's al Ghul?

/nod

But now a moot point, as we couldnt lynch Jaded even if we were inclined to.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:25 PM
/nod

But now a moot point, as we couldnt lynch Jaded even if we were inclined to.

And if Jaded was the last scum left, then technically town has won, even if he's going to come back to life tonight. He is currently dead. *Checks win condition* that's enough for a town win.

So the way I see it, regardless of whether Jaded is scum or not, there's more scum. So if there's only one scum left, Jaded is clear.

I think now's a good time to re-emphasise that no-one has claimed survivor. If you are now might be a good time to speak up, as we're going to have to lynch someone eventually.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:26 PM
Oh yeah, forgot something :D

Change Vote: No Vote

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:29 PM
I am starting to feel some De-ja-vu here. Reminds me of the town going bonkers trying to find scum in sci-fi mafia only to find the Anti-terrorists were actually terrorists. So ....... Just saying....Ya'know.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:31 PM
I am starting to feel some De-ja-vu here. Reminds me of the town going bonkers trying to find scum in sci-fi mafia only to find the Anti-terrorists were actually terrorists. So ....... Just saying....Ya'know.

Well, you know if this is the same then we should lynch a DC folk to see if they're still on the same page as the town...

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:32 PM
Well, you know if this is the same then we should lynch a DC folk to see if they're still on the same page as the town...

Possible.

My question is this though.

With no kill last night I don't see scum winning. There was a reason there was no kill.

Astil being silenced gives a thought

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 03:33 PM
Can't we just lynch WC again and call it a game?:D

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Can't we just lynch WC again and call it a game?:D


No, what about you? :p

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Can't we just lynch WC again and call it a game?:D

I'm down with that.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Possible.

My question is this though.

With no kill last night I don't see scum winning. There was a reason there was no kill.

Astil being silenced gives a thought

Where's the question?

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:36 PM
Where's the question?

This would be a great spot for someone to claim The Question.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 03:38 PM
You were talking about how DC and Marvel scum were likely in the know, maybe there's still colluding roles left?

I want everyone to bare proof of their alignment. Go through the nights and support that you are who you say you are. If we want to figure out's who's the remaining scum, we can probably find some sort of inconsistency somewhere.

I feel there's a missing piece somewhere...

Honestly, I'll call it right now: Wallbanger, Anti, GM, and Petrija are all scum. :p

If it's true, I declare myself winner.

Either way, I doubt Captain What-just-happened (me) is going to do anything about it, so just go about your business.

As for proof of who I am, I've supplied blatant hints from the beginning. When I implied they were false, I still continued to support that they were true. Finally, I suggested I'd do something at night, and I did. I'm clearly there.

So, yea, I'm clear, I think.

The only people I'm fairly confident about are myself and iMac. After that, maybe Astil (unless he's secretly Vegeta or Bowser, but evidence contradicts one with the other).

Why, if we have a reason, do we think GM and Petrija aren't colluding scum? You probably have great proof, but I'm the slow one.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:39 PM
Where's the question?


No question really, just rambling.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 03:42 PM
Possible.

My question is this though.

With no kill last night I don't see scum winning. There was a reason there was no kill.

Astil being silenced gives a thought

Well, there haven't been kills in a while.

We've got a bit of a circular back-up system going on with not much to say any link is certainly town.

If Anti, 'Banger, GM, or Petrija are willing to make some sort of sacrifice (or go into length why I should shut up, because as lost as I am, I'm still a townie vote and the old "Pff, it's all there" defense isn't working anymore), I'll sacrifice myself if you prove to be town. That might not be necessary, but I'm willing to go eye-for-an-eye to figure this out.

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 03:43 PM
Mjd,

My role has been out there since the start of the game because Anit does that annoying thing of hounding you until you claim or hint. And then he broadcasts what your hint is for everyone else to see.:D Just gald I was not an investigator this time around because he would have outed me.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:44 PM
So with that, we've got two choices tonight:

1) No lynch
2) Lynch a probable townie for info

If we choose option 2 we've got much more choice:

1) Lynch someone who isn't proven townie, even if they've shown they've used their abilities for the town. Bak42, eayragt, mjdgoldeneye
2) Lynch a Hellsing to see if they're really blue
3) Lynch a DC to see if they're still light blue
4) Lynch BHK1978 to see if the unrecruited heroes are still blue
5) Lynch crayon or Astil, both who have oozed town, despite what's been thrown crayons way especially

Sooo... crayon, you said that you didn't want to be blocked tonight so you could semi prove / defend yourself (that'd move you into Option 1 with me!). Please feel free.

Pet - are you (still) a true blue?

mjd - want to tell us a little more about yourself?

iMac - do you want to look smug that you're the only person not on my lynch list?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 03:44 PM
Okay lets try this.

Assume that the write up shows someone messing with an unholy artifact for a reason.

Since no one's sharing info, lets also assume that reason is bad.

The person in the write up is male. Gonna assume the person can't go out at night ebcause if they could, they would now have to account for being home. (assuming thats the person's home.)

I have Jaded, Bak, MJ, and Crayon fitting the bill.

Astil was in jail and doesn't apply.

Everyone else is female, goes out, or some such.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 03:45 PM
Random, aimless theories and suggestions:

A) Anti isn't who he says he is and is somehow colluding with x number of others (probably including 'Banger).

B) GM and/or Petrija are scum.

C) I keep forgetting who MLT is, so let's just give her her own premise-less and support-less theory.

D) There's some sort of anime scum group left including bak and/or crayon and/or Astil.

E) Eayragt and BHK seem iffy.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:45 PM
As for proof of who I am, I've supplied blatant hints from the beginning. When I implied they were false, I still continued to support that they were true. Finally, I suggested I'd do something at night, and I did. I'm clearly there.

So, yea, I'm clear, I think.


You know that is by no means proof. More proof then I can drum up for myself being town, but that doesn't make it proof.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:45 PM
Well, there haven't been kills in a while.

We've got a bit of a circular back-up system going on with not much to say any link is certainly town.

If Anti, 'Banger, GM, or Petrija are willing to make some sort of sacrifice (or go into length why I should shut up, because as lost as I am, I'm still a townie vote and the old "Pff, it's all there" defense isn't working anymore), I'll sacrifice myself if you prove to be town. That might not be necessary, but I'm willing to go eye-for-an-eye to figure this out.

If it came down to it I would as well. I want to see the town win this. We have put a lot of effort into this game.



Who do we have left in the game.

1. Antithesis
3. Astil
4. bak42
5. BHK1978
6. petrija
11. Eayragt
14. GruntMark
16. iMac
21. mjdgoldeneye
22. moon_lit_tears
25. crayon
32. Wallbanger

Out of this list who can we say for certain is town.

I can say I am. As it should be sort of obvious as I have been in a write up being a female and such sitting at home.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 03:46 PM
So its either...AA and DA are dead and some nebulous remaining scum remains.

Or DA is dead and AA missed a night kill following Ivys death and another because either 1) Astil was locked up or 2) Jaded was only kinda sorta dead.

Any major Bat villians that could fake their own death?

He's not a huge bat villain, but he is a DC villain. Solomon Grundy doesn't just fake his death's, he actually dies and comes back with different powers/ personality

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 03:47 PM
Hmm...I never really thought about it that way. I was thinking we had our hands full with DA and AA.

I know on paper Pet and I was a formable duo, but the no communication has been a major hindrance. I didnt even know for sure she could protect me until it actually happened. I just kinda had my fingers crossed that I had nailed the hints in my PM.

Wait you two can't talk?

Coulda swore you said you just have trouble talking ebcause of timezones...

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:47 PM
I can say I am. As it should be sort of obvious as I have been in a write up being a female and such sitting at home.

Again, not proof. You're 98% town. Only iMac reaches 99.9% (as high as I go, and counts as proven). No-one else does.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:48 PM
Wait you two can't talk?

Coulda swore you said you just have trouble talking ebcause of timezones...

I remember the quote, and I thought it meant that they couldn't talk outside the thread.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:48 PM
Again, not proof. You're 98% town. Only iMac reaches 99.9% (as high as I go, and counts as proven). No-one else does.

I'm just so baffled as to what is going on here. :(

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:49 PM
Wait you two can't talk?

Coulda swore you said you just have trouble talking ebcause of timezones...

Time differences.

She is a vampire after all.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:50 PM
Time differences.

She is a vampire after all.


Didn't you know Vampires can be out in the day just not when its sunny.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 03:50 PM
Well, there haven't been kills in a while.

We've got a bit of a circular back-up system going on with not much to say any link is certainly town.

If Anti, 'Banger, GM, or Petrija are willing to make some sort of sacrifice (or go into length why I should shut up, because as lost as I am, I'm still a townie vote and the old "Pff, it's all there" defense isn't working anymore), I'll sacrifice myself if you prove to be town. That might not be necessary, but I'm willing to go eye-for-an-eye to figure this out.

You don't have to sacrifice yourself to prove your town.

There is something much easier you can do. We can discuss it later though. My nephew just got back and I have to fill out paperwork and start cooking something.

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 03:51 PM
Wait you two can't talk?

Coulda swore you said you just have trouble talking ebcause of timezones...

I thought I read that as well. I don't remember how far back.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:51 PM
Didn't you know Vampires can be out in the day just not when its sunny.

It would seem DWW disagrees with you.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:51 PM
I'm just so baffled as to what is going on here. :(

I would say that our most useful course of action would be to lynch a Hellsing. Semi-clears the other one if they come up town. Gives us a good lynch next phase if not :p.

Don't know if I'll be able to drum up support for that. Maybe I should just go after Astil, just to see if I can actually ever get him lynched in any game. But probably not worth it - wont happen.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:52 PM
It would seem DWW disagrees with you.

I thought that was a joke.

So you guys can't talk at all outside of the thread?

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:54 PM
I thought that was a joke.

So you guys can't talk at all outside of the thread?

Nope.

Which actually made the whole "they are secretly DA and AA colluding" all the more laughable.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:55 PM
Nope.

Which actually made the whole "they are secretly DA and AA colluding" all the more laughable.

So how sure are you that petrija is currently Justice aligned? As a percentage.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 03:55 PM
Mjd,

My role has been out there since the start of the game because Anit does that annoying thing of hounding you until you claim or hint. And then he broadcasts what your hint is for everyone else to see.:D Just gald I was not an investigator this time around because he would have outed me.

How do we know you aren't scum, though. We have proof of an ability (sort of), but what proof of townie-ness do we have?

Anti's ultimate oracle power, I assume?

So with that, we've got two choices tonight:

1) No lynch
2) Lynch a probable townie for info

If we choose option 2 we've got much more choice:

1) Lynch someone who isn't proven townie, even if they've shown they've used their abilities for the town. Bak42, eayragt, mjdgoldeneye
2) Lynch a Hellsing to see if they're really blue
3) Lynch a DC to see if they're still light blue
4) Lynch BHK1978 to see if the unrecruited heroes are still blue
5) Lynch crayon or Astil, both who have oozed town, despite what's been thrown crayons way especially

Sooo... crayon, you said that you didn't want to be blocked tonight so you could semi prove / defend yourself (that'd move you into Option 1 with me!). Please feel free.

Pet - are you (still) a true blue?

mjd - want to tell us a little more about yourself?

iMac - do you want to look smug that you're the only person not on my lynch list?

What do I have left to tell? I'm Mario.

Honestly, I have kind of embellished myself a bit for the sake of survival, but I haven't lied or even implied the contrary to what I will now explain.

I had 3 items: A Leaf, A Star, and a Mega Mushroom.

I had one use of each, and they're all gone.

The leaf made me untargetable (or unreachable, whatever phrasing fits the reality) because I flew up into the sky. I used this the night M-ded said he ended up on me. There's not much proof one way or the other to say whether he really targeted me or ended up on me, but I called my ability before anyone else volunteered info.

The star made it so whoever targeted me that night got silenced for the following day. I used this the night Petrija got silenced. I've brought this one up as well. I suggested maybe I knocked Petrija out, but the genders don't match. (Note to everyone: Check genders again. What gender did Petrija claim? We know she's a woman or "young hero" or something from that write-up.)

The Mega Mushroom has already been well documented. All powers used on the night of use had a 50/50 shot of targeting me.

I'm powerless now. Considering I'm not much of a help alive aside from simply being alive, withholding is more of a detriment to my health at this point. (At some point, someone suggested they had a few one-shot powers and I said my role was structured similarly. I think that person ended up being Venom, but seeing as it's already in the thread, I figured I'd bring that up simply to show I'm not making this up now... :p)

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 03:56 PM
I would say that our most useful course of action would be to lynch a Hellsing. Semi-clears the other one if they come up town. Gives us a good lynch next phase if not :p.


:rolleyes:

We should lynch whoever is working on "unholy artifacts" and since thats pretty clearly neither of us, then no.

Also Im pretty sure MJD has basically accused everyone likely to be town today except IMac. :p

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 03:56 PM
My gut says it was.

However, you'll have to ask her.

You two don't talk?

Not so much. We keep different hours.

Nope.

Which actually made the whole "they are secretly DA and AA colluding" all the more laughable.

Yeah uhhh, you laugh, but you can't really vouch for Pet, can you? If she didn't send you a copy of her PM, or DWW himself didn't you something saying she's Alucard. Can you be 100% certain?

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:57 PM
I called the star!!!!!!!!

Woot!

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 03:58 PM
Yeah uhhh, you laugh, but you can't really vouch for Pet, can you? If she didn't send you a copy of her PM, or DWW himself didn't you something saying she's Alucard. Can you be 100% certain?



Also two different answers to pretty much the same question. ?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 03:58 PM
MJ, are you Justice aligned?

just a simple yes or no please, no need for exposition

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 03:58 PM
:rolleyes:

We should lynch whoever is working on "unholy artifacts" and since thats pretty clearly neither of us, then no.

Also Im pretty sure MJD has basically accused everyone likely to be town today except IMac. :p

Yes. I have reached "utterly useless paranoia" stage.

Last time this happened, I got modkilled. I know better not to talk if I get silenced this time...

So... yea...

If you've got a theory or idea and it doesn't make my eyes bleed, I'm in. If the town wins: awesome. If the scum are leading us to the slaughter house: my hat is off to you.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 03:59 PM
MJ, are you Justice aligned?

just a simple yes or no please, no need for exposition

Yes, Super Mario, Justice Aligned Mushroom Popping Plumber.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 03:59 PM
:rolleyes:

We should lynch whoever is working on "unholy artifacts" and since thats pretty clearly neither of us, then no.

Also Im pretty sure MJD has basically accused everyone likely to be town today except IMac. :p

I think I've made a case for everyone being scum apart from iMac as well. That's the situation we're in.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:00 PM
Could this 'Unholy Artifact' be what killed Waghlon?

I note that I pointed out Waghlon's death last night and now we have someone checking an item out...

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:00 PM
Yeah uhhh, you laugh, but you can't really vouch for Pet, can you? If she didn't send you a copy of her PM, or DWW himself didn't you something saying she's Alucard. Can you be 100% certain?

Of course I cant be 100% certain. Thats basically never possible.

But Im more sure about her than say...Crayon or Eayragt.

I would understand if say...I died and it drove her to turning, but it would appear she is back to doing nothing except protecting me at night.

Which Im cool with.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:01 PM
Of course I cant be 100% certain. Thats basically never possible.

But Im more sure about her than say...Crayon or Eayragt.

I would understand if say...I died and it drove her to turning, but it would appear she is back to doing nothing except protecting me at night.

Which Im cool with.

Go on, give me a percentage.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:01 PM
Yes, Super Mario, Justice Aligned Mushroom Popping Plumber.

Okay, well the Lasso of Truth will either confirm or deny that. :D

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 04:01 PM
This situation kind of sucks to be in, but if we don't run into face-palm worthy silliness that we haven't yet seen, this is good modding.

Roleclaim-mania and people are still totally unsure...

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:01 PM
Okay, well the Lasso of Truth will either confirm or deny that. :D

Knew it.

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 04:02 PM
How do we know you aren't scum, though. We have proof of an ability (sort of), but what proof of townie-ness do we have?

Anti's ultimate oracle power, I assume?

I have never been Scum and still nobody trusts me in these games.:D

I mean heck I was the investigator in Zim and you and the town still did not seem to trust me. Do I really give off scummy vibes?

Seriously, I really can't prove anything beyond what I have said. And what Anti has said about my character.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:02 PM
Okay, well the Lasso of Truth will either confirm or deny that. :D

Wohoo - that now makes two people we don't have to worry about.

Actually, if we want a result - three! Yay!

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 04:03 PM
Okay, well the Lasso of Truth will either confirm or deny that. :D

Ohhhhhh...

Ok...

Realization of the blatantly obvious is... blatantly obvious...

I still don't trust you or 'Banger. You two together could do anything, probably. :p

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:03 PM
In Sin we had several roles that could 'target' dead people and search their homes. (For bodies, property deeds, whatever)

Perhaps teh remaining scum found what they were looking for at Waghlon's.

If so, then i know it wasn't Bak. he didn't target anyone last night.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:04 PM
Go on, give me a percentage.

Im gonna call it 90%.

However, I wouldnt give you half that.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:05 PM
If MJ gets confirmed

then i'd really look hard at Crayon and possibly then jaded (who we can't lynch right now anyway).

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:05 PM
Im gonna call it 90%.

However, I wouldnt give you half that.

Well vote for me then. That means your less than 45% sure I'm town, so you're over 55% sure I'm scum.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:06 PM
If MJ gets confirmed

then i'd really look hard at Crayon and possibly then jaded (who we can't lynch right now anyway).

/nod

If all gender claims are true that leaves Crayon and I think Bak?

And Crayon has never REALLY proven whats up with his power. Just a sorta not actually attack from Petrija.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 04:08 PM
Here's my attempt at listing players by potential scumminess:

6. Bluestar / petrija
14. GruntMark
25. Sean McFly / crayon
4. bak42
11. Eayragt
22. moon_lit_tears
5. BHK1978
3. Astil
1. Antithesis
32. Wallbanger
16. iMac
21. mjdgoldeneye

Don't be insulted if you're red or orange. I'm only, like, 3 posts from being red on MY OWN LIST.

Still... This is the most accurate depiction of how my head is organized right now.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:09 PM
Im gonna call it 90%.

However, I wouldnt give you half that.

I''ll give you mine then:

1. Antithesis - 98%
3. Astil - 97%
4. bak42 - 85%
5. BHK1978 - 97%
6. petrija - 70%
11. Eayragt - ...80%?
14. GruntMark - 80%
16. iMac - 99.95
21. mjdgoldeneye - 80%
22. moon_lit_tears - 98%
25. crayon - 80%
32. Wallbanger - 98%

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 04:09 PM
/nod

If all gender claims are true that leaves Crayon and I think Bak?

And Crayon has never REALLY proven whats up with his power. Just a sorta not actually attack from Petrija.

Well my powers were recharged and he claimed to do so. That being said I can't confirm it one way or the other as I was not told that someone did it for me. I was just told my powers were recharged.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Here's my attempt at listing players by potential scumminess:

6. Bluestar / petrija
14. GruntMark
25. Sean McFly / crayon
4. bak42
11. Eayragt
22. moon_lit_tears
5. BHK1978
3. Astil
1. Antithesis
32. Wallbanger
16. iMac
21. mjdgoldeneye

Don't be insulted if you're red or orange. I'm only, like, 3 posts from being red on MY OWN LIST.

Still... This is the most accurate depiction of how my head is organized right now.

Jaded isn't there because he isn't on the players list... :p I'd probably put him in yellow or green...

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Here's my attempt at listing players by potential scumminess:

6. Bluestar / petrija
14. GruntMark
25. Sean McFly / crayon
4. bak42
11. Eayragt
22. moon_lit_tears
5. BHK1978
3. Astil
1. Antithesis
32. Wallbanger
16. iMac
21. mjdgoldeneye

Don't be insulted if you're red or orange. I'm only, like, 3 posts from being red on MY OWN LIST.

Still... This is the most accurate depiction of how my head is organized right now.

Pretty similar lists, apart from you've never got moon_lit_tears. We're in agreement, so:

Vote: petrija

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Well my powers were recharged and he claimed to do so. That being said I can't confirm it one way or the other as I was not told that someone did it for me. I was just told my powers were recharged.

Me, not crayon.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:11 PM
/nod

If all gender claims are true that leaves Crayon and I think Bak?

And Crayon has never REALLY proven whats up with his power. Just a sorta not actually attack from Petrija.

Well, for what its worth, I tracked Bak, he didn't target anyone last night (stayed home)

But for all I can tell that 'unholy' bit happened at home.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:13 PM
I'd rather lynch Crayon over Petrija. A vig/protector (if Pet is town) is a damn handy thing to hold on to.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:13 PM
Well, for what its worth, I tracked Bak, he didn't target anyone last night (stayed home)

But for all I can tell that 'unholy' bit happened at home.

If bak was scum then he'd probably have a couple of one off powers to go with his townieish night skip. It could have been one.

Actually, crayon said he was going to try and prove himself - could that have been him?

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 04:13 PM
I would like to explain why I switched Pet when I did. I did not say anything before because it seems that only Anit and I enjoy meta-gaming.

However, before she got the role I saw BlueStar (the previous holder of the role), PMing like a mad man. Now that does not mean he was or that Pet is Scum. It is just something I saw.

BHK1978
04-13-2010, 04:14 PM
Me, not crayon.

Yes I meant you and not crayon.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:15 PM
I'd rather lynch Crayon over Petrija. A vig/protector (if Pet is town) is a damn handy thing to hold on to.

I'm not sure if crayon will be on before I shortly disapear, so I've left my marker. If we're in the situation where a mislynch on a powerful character proves fateful, then we're a lot worse off then we currently think we are.

d_w_w
04-13-2010, 04:18 PM
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.

petrija -1 (eayragt)

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:21 PM
I'm not sure if crayon will be on before I shortly disapear, so I've left my marker. If we're in the situation where a mislynch on a powerful character proves fateful, then we're a lot worse off then we currently think we are.

Nobody's lynching anyoen yet.

Still gotta hear from a couple of other folks. Imac and banger, for example.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 04:21 PM
Speaking of Imac, I wonder if Judge Dread has an evil counterpart in the Mod?

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:23 PM
Nobody's lynching anyoen yet.

Still gotta hear from a couple of other folks. Imac and banger, for example.

No, but that's what this discussion is all about at the end of the day - who, if anyone, we're going to lynch.

Speaking of Imac, I wonder if Judge Dread has an evil counterpart in the Mod?

Don't go there! Don't take my one cleared person away!

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:24 PM
I'd rather lynch Crayon over Petrija. A vig/protector (if Pet is town) is a damn handy thing to hold on to.

Thank you!

There is zero indication Petrija has turned. Im not even sure Alucard could turn if Integra is still alive. The only other assumption would be Hellsing is always evil, which is incredibly asinine.

I have no interest in giving up my security blanket. Especially on the push of someone I dont trust.

Vote: Crayon

Thats someone else I dont trust.

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:33 PM
There is zero indication Petrija has turned. Im not even sure Alucard could turn if Integra is still alive. The only other assumption would be Hellsing is always evil, which is incredibly asinine.

This is partially true - but not completely. Now, obviously she started attacking people after she was attacked, so there's logic in that. But she has started attacking people. I know, I know, she could be completely telling the truth - look, I only had her down as 30% chance of being scum, you've got me down as over 55%, so don't feel offended on her behalf.

But she has attacked people, and hasn't fully explained why. Did she have to find a human to feed on? Was it optional, but meanwhile she list her other powers? Did she expect to kill her target? Did she target crayon in hoping he would survive because of his ability? Was she trying to kill someone (after beingn able to put some of the blame on you by consulting with you)?

Unanswered questions. Most non-DC people have given full disclosure (or have simply lied full disclosure).

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:34 PM
Was it optional, but meanwhile she list her other powers?

list = lost

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 04:37 PM
I'd rather lynch Crayon over Petrija. A vig/protector (if Pet is town) is a damn handy thing to hold on to.

Do we really think there's a vig/protector out there?

Even if crayon is scum, crayon hasn't shown the potential to physically go out and hurt people.

It's not like we're suddenly going to find 2 scum and not be able to handle them in the time it takes to pull off 2 lynches... That's the only case where I'd see a vig being useful.

As for a protector, we haven't seen any deaths lately so that probably doesn't matter. The only kill we know about it Pet's!

Vote: petrija

Crayon doesn't immediately give us a read on another player like Pet does, either. Sure, GM might not be scum if Pet is, but what do we learn about anyone if we lynch crayon?

eayragt
04-13-2010, 04:39 PM
Crayon doesn't immediately give us a read on another player like Pet does, either. Sure, GM might not be scum if Pet is, but what do we learn about anyone if we lynch crayon?

This is good thinking. Us 80% townies should stick together :cool:.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:41 PM
Fine. You have questions. I get that.

But in all probability she is just as townie as I am. (Which is to say very seeing as how I lead a fighting force dedicated to the destruction of evil :D )

Anti broke it down correctly, assuming whoever is playing with unholy artifacts is scum...

Then Crayon or Bak.

If it isnt, then we...

Remove DC
Remove Pet and I
Remove Imac, Astil, pending investigation MJD, and I guess BHK.

So...Eayragt, Crayon or Bak.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 04:53 PM
Assuming MJD comes back town...my proposed solution to the day phase is this.

1. Lynch Crayon
2. Jail Bak
3. Eayragt attempts to charge up Banger and give him another throw of the lasso. (assuming Anti/Banger believes thats realistic) so he can question Petrija.

bak42
04-13-2010, 05:07 PM
Assuming MJD comes back town...my proposed solution to the day phase is this.

1. Lynch Crayon
2. Jail Bak
3. Eayragt attempts to charge up Banger and give him another throw of the lasso. (assuming Anti/Banger believes thats realistic) so he can question Petrija.

Since I don't end up getting lynched, I have no problem with this scenario. Although jailing me is pretty much pointless since I don't do anything at night anymore.

crayon
04-13-2010, 05:07 PM
So with that, we've got two choices tonight:

1) No lynch
2) Lynch a probable townie for info

If we choose option 2 we've got much more choice:

1) Lynch someone who isn't proven townie, even if they've shown they've used their abilities for the town. Bak42, eayragt, mjdgoldeneye
2) Lynch a Hellsing to see if they're really blue
3) Lynch a DC to see if they're still light blue
4) Lynch BHK1978 to see if the unrecruited heroes are still blue
5) Lynch crayon or Astil, both who have oozed town, despite what's been thrown crayons way especially

Sooo... crayon, you said that you didn't want to be blocked tonight so you could semi prove / defend yourself (that'd move you into Option 1 with me!). Please feel free.

Pet - are you (still) a true blue?

mjd - want to tell us a little more about yourself?

iMac - do you want to look smug that you're the only person not on my lynch list?

If bak was scum then he'd probably have a couple of one off powers to go with his townieish night skip. It could have been one.

Actually, crayon said he was going to try and prove himself - could that have been him?

Quick reply here, as I'll need to go fetch some more quotes to do my full reply. But as for the bolded above, when I said don't block me, I was under the impression that we'd definitely have at least one kill attempt last night -- assuming I'd most likely be the topic of discussion the next day, regardless of what happened, the notion was a) a kill attempt may be stopped by blocking someone else, and that b) that at least people wouldn't be wasting time going "umm ahh, maybe?" when discussion of me came up again. There's not much I can do to prove myself besides getting attacked or being under watch (which I was kind of assuming would have happened) while sh*t is going down (couldn't think of a better way to phrase it).

Obviously my attempt to have myself proved by way of exclusionis all moot seeing as there was no kill attempt we can see last night.

Anyway, more posting to follow...

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 05:13 PM
Now, before I change my vote, has the phase skipping been fully explained yet?

Bak42 says it was him, right? Did he say who he was?

I have an odd feeling that crayon isn't who we're looking for.

bak42
04-13-2010, 05:15 PM
Now, before I change my vote, has the phase skipping been fully explained yet?

Bak42 says it was him, right? Did he say who he was?

I have an odd feeling that crayon isn't who we're looking for.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again I am, Toushirou Hitsugaya, Justice Aligned Soul Reaper

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 05:22 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again I am, Toushirou Hitsugaya, Justice Aligned Soul Reaper

I don't know Japanese, but that spelling doesn't come up as often as an alternate one. Crayon, is that how it's spelled in the mod?

Anyway, whatever... This is the will of those who seem to know what's up.

Change Vote: Crayon

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 05:33 PM
That is the mod spelling.

I checked earlier.

petrija
04-13-2010, 05:57 PM
guys. Pile all your questions together and I'll answer them all when i get home. Bold them even so i don't miss any but please watch the votes as I'm easier to lynch.

crayon
04-13-2010, 05:58 PM
If we are indeed saying that AA and DA is toast, then that leaves one or more killers of another faction left...

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png

Night 8

His eyes were closed. Slowly, a devious smile spread across his face. "It's time."

And then he opened his eyes.


***********************************
***********************************
Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 seconds later...
***********************************
***********************************


The woman grabbed the package, which was heavier than expected and walked inside. She wasn't expecting any deliveries tonight and was quite curious as to what it was. Her curiosity would have to be delayed however, as the building began to shake. Slowly, vines and limbs tore through the walls and moving towards her.

Deftly, and still holding the package, she dodged one vine and then another. A smaller vine crawled up from behind and attached itself to her ankle. This caused the woman to trip and fall to the ground as she tried to make a run for it. The shaking grew louder and, at this point, would better be described as rumbling. Slowly, a massive tree root emerged through the floor and positioned itself above the woman's head.

Things did not look good.

*CRASH*

At a speed that can only be described as inhuman, the figure darted through a window and snapped the massive root of the ground and tossed it to the side. With a surprisingly gentle motion, the figure reached down and offered the woman his hand. Quickly, he pulled her into his arms and darted out of the building, dodging all of the insidious plant-life along the way.

Four blocks were covered in four seconds. He set the woman, still holding her package, down, and turned to head back to the scene. He wouldn't make it, however...

*BZZPT!*

... as another figure, from an impressive distance, would blast him in the face with a burst of energy. The unlikely hero dropped to the ground, his face and upper torso scorched. Miraculously, he was still alive, though in this condition, he might not be for long.

And so the woman would return the favor immediately, as she grabbed him by the arm and pulled him to safety.


***********************************
***********************************
Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 feet away...
***********************************
***********************************


He opened the door to his makeshift workshop and walked in. It was a successful night, but he still had some more work to do. After tossing his trench coat on a nearby couch, he sat at his workbench and grabbed a soldering iron. Just as he activated the device, he felt something wrench inside of him. He dropped the tool and stumbled away from the desk, feeling out of breath. He grabbed at his chest. What... was...

With a wrenched look on his face, Waghlon fell to the floor.

-------------------------------------------

Waghlon is dead. He was Donatello, Justice Aligned Ninja Turtle.

petrija is injured, hospitalized and may not participate in the thread.

crayon has been released and may participate in the thread.

Okay, so here's something that intrigues me. Seems Ivy went to kill someone, and said someone was saved from Ivy's killing, only for that second person (saver not savee) be blasted.

And then Wag was killed.

Now was Wag vigged, or was the saver disabled by someone? The reason I ask is because there seems to be a lack of compassion in that kill. Almost cold, and without knowing the details of the fed that EFG originated in, I wonder of the possibility of a late blossom SK (a la Lakeside), whereas the blaster seems to fit the same style of kill that took over when Tryps bit it.

Things that make me go hmm. :p

Yes, ironic that I'm quoting the dead Don :P

No, I'm talking about the beginning of Night 8:

If no-one's going to claim that I'm going to have to put it down as scum. That may not have been scum before Night 8. Which would lengthen my list a little.

I can't believe that d_w_w would mention someone opening their eyes and saying "it's time" if it wasn't something significant. If it was significantly town, then why hasn't anyone claimed it yet?

The only conclusion I can come to is that it wasn't town, and was an indication of scum gearing up for something.. It may explain Waghlon's death, although it could also be recruitment perhaps.. whatever it was, I would have to assume it was the start of something, given the choice of wording.

As Eayragt says, it may also be someone previously town, turning scum. I don't know how likely this is in a mafia game.. but if that's what happened then it makes everything a lot more hazy. Astil (being in jail) and iMac would be the one's I'd put the most faith in.. possibly Wallbanger too (as long we're assuming that a townie gaining the ability to kill renders their previous abilities unusable). I'd double ensure not lynching Astil because if someone has gained the power to kill, their role power level may also have changed, right?

Conveniently it also places me in the clear since I was jailed the night that this happened, but take that for what you will. Last thing I want to do is get lynched if Jaded actually has died, since there's the possibility that I could still survive an attack.

It does also leave room for Alucard/petrija.. this is a far-reaching theory, so don't take it as gospel, but Alucard could have turned without Integra/Gruntmark being in on it.. so one doesn't necessarily incriminate the other by way of association, using the theory of someone "turning". That said, I don't know if it'd actually be possible to lynch a vampire, either.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 05:58 PM
Assuming MJD comes back town...my proposed solution to the day phase is this.

1. Lynch Crayon
2. Jail Bak
3. Eayragt attempts to charge up Banger and give him another throw of the lasso. (assuming Anti/Banger believes thats realistic) so he can question Petrija.


Yay! I made someones list. :D

crayon
04-13-2010, 06:07 PM
I don't know Japanese, but that spelling doesn't come up as often as an alternate one. Crayon, is that how it's spelled in the mod?

Anyway, whatever... This is the will of those who seem to know what's up.

Change Vote: Crayon

That is the mod spelling.

I checked earlier.

Yepp, that's just how I roll with my romanji :P

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 06:08 PM
If we are indeed saying that AA and DA is toast, then that leaves one or more killers of another faction left...





Yes, ironic that I'm quoting the dead Don :P



I can't believe that d_w_w would mention someone opening their eyes and saying "it's time" if it wasn't something significant. If it was significantly town, then why hasn't anyone claimed it yet?

The only conclusion I can come to is that it wasn't town, and was an indication of scum gearing up for something.. It may explain Waghlon's death, although it could also be recruitment perhaps.. whatever it was, I would have to assume it was the start of something, given the choice of wording.

As Eayragt says, it may also be someone previously town, turning scum. I don't know how likely this is in a mafia game.. but if that's what happened then it makes everything a lot more hazy. Astil (being in jail) and iMac would be the one's I'd put the most faith in.. possibly Wallbanger too (as long we're assuming that a townie gaining the ability to kill renders their previous abilities unusable). I'd double ensure not lynching Astil because if someone has gained the power to kill, their role power level may also have changed, right?

Conveniently it also places me in the clear since I was jailed the night that this happened, but take that for what you will. Last thing I want to do is get lynched if Jaded actually has died, since there's the possibility that I could still survive an attack.

It does also leave room for Alucard/petrija.. this is a far-reaching theory, so don't take it as gospel, but Alucard could have turned without Integra/Gruntmark being in on it.. so one doesn't necessarily incriminate the other by way of association, using the theory of someone "turning". That said, I don't know if it'd actually be possible to lynch a vampire, either.



If pet's scum, and she targetted you the night before last and you weren't recruited, then why would you think Petrija is scum?


I have a happy little theory we can try.

Pet can kill people, you say males trying to kill you may result in being silenced...

Why not prove it?

I'm surprised you haven't suggested as much already.

crayon
04-13-2010, 06:16 PM
If pet's scum, and she targetted you the night before last and you weren't recruited, then why would you think Petrija is scum?


I have a happy little theory we can try.

Pet can kill people, you say males trying to kill you may result in being silenced...

Why not prove it?

I'm surprised you haven't suggested as much already.

Why would she recruit me, though? It seems pretty logical her claim about having to recharge her energy after getting blasted, if anything tbh.

Assuming males accounts for "creatures". Remember that I got a non-response from d_w_w on this point of clarification. Plus if I die that doesn't really prove her as town or scum either way. That, and I said it's a "far-reaching theory".

But if that's the alternative to a mislynch then sure, why not take that road?

crayon
04-13-2010, 06:17 PM
Why would she recruit me, though? It seems pretty logical her claim about having to recharge her energy after getting blasted, if anything tbh.

Assuming males accounts for "creatures". Remember that I got a non-response from d_w_w on this point of clarification. Plus if I die that doesn't really prove her as town or scum either way. That, and I said it's a "far-reaching theory".

But if that's the alternative to a mislynch then sure, why not take that road?

The second part is in response to your theory, just in case my poor grammar made it ambiguous

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 06:25 PM
Frankly, I think both possibilities are equally likely and lynching crayon doesn't have the added bonus of assuring us of which direction to look. If she's scum and it doesn't end, we can lynch Gruntmark.

Otherwise, we go down a windy road that I don't think is as likely.

GM has a vested interest one way or the other, but as for everyone else, do we really want to start with with crayon? Can't we lynch Petrija first?

It just makes a while lot of sense for a freakin' vampire to be scum...

crayon
04-13-2010, 06:27 PM
Pet can kill people, you say males trying to kill you may result in being silenced...

I should probably take this moment to point out again, that it's me who will be silenced, and not the attacker if I do survive the attack. So there's no misconceptions going on about what to expect.

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 06:28 PM
Frankly, I think both possibilities are equally likely and lynching crayon doesn't have the added bonus of assuring us of which direction to look. If she's scum and it doesn't end, we can lynch Gruntmark.

Otherwise, we go down a windy road that I don't think is as likely.

GM has a vested interest one way or the other, but as for everyone else, do we really want to start with with crayon? Can't we lynch Petrija first?

It just makes a while lot of sense for a freakin' vampire to be scum...



So you suggest lynching Petrija???

petrija
04-13-2010, 06:35 PM
just a quick note to clarify. I cannot kill.

crayon
04-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Frankly, I think both possibilities are equally likely and lynching crayon doesn't have the added bonus of assuring us of which direction to look. If she's scum and it doesn't end, we can lynch Gruntmark.

Otherwise, we go down a windy road that I don't think is as likely.

GM has a vested interest one way or the other, but as for everyone else, do we really want to start with with crayon? Can't we lynch Petrija first?

It just makes a while lot of sense for a freakin' vampire to be scum...

If this is the route which is taken, iMac is free to stick me in jail again, right? As long as it's not another no-kill (if it is, I have no idea how the game is supposed to end) that should pretty much prove me, with the added bonus of me not being a) vigged, b) killed, c) hospitalized, or d) having nothing happen to me (assuming the creature factor). Obviously I'm not a fan of any of those multi-choices, seeing as only one out the four gets us anywhere closer to proving scum. A, B, and D takes us straight back to Reasonable Doubt-ville.

Ironically, our biggest problem right now is that there is no killing to go off. Which makes me think that a) the killing is optional, b) the killer has more than one ability (which could explain the testing thing of last night?), or c) I have no friggin clue what.

If they are optional it's likely someone who feels/felt comfortable that they wouldn't wind up on the chopping block today. Something to keep in mind for future days once the town is more clear on what the killer can/can't do.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 06:40 PM
just a quick note to clarify. I cannot kill.

This seems awfully contradictory seeing as we all openly assumed you could...

What happened to your supposed vig powers?

So you suggest lynching Petrija???

Change Vote: Petrija

This is more useful now. We can't be afraid about losing protection powers or something when we don't even see kills. I understand the "unholy" item thing, but I don't think the situation is too dire to go this way first.

Crayon, at least, has been quite helpful in the thread, town or otherwise.

Petrija's posts mostly consist of her defending herself. It wasn't until she was a person of interest that we really heard from her at all.

crayon
04-13-2010, 06:47 PM
just a quick note to clarify. I cannot kill.

I guess that takes that idea off the table then.

Slightly odd though (at least character wise), anything from your role PM which may allude to why this would be the case?

Wallbanger
04-13-2010, 06:53 PM
Yes, Super Mario, Justice Aligned Mushroom Popping Plumber.

For the record, the Lasso of Truth declares that mjdgoldeneye is honest here.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 07:20 PM
[QUOTE=mjdgoldeneye;956680
It just makes a while lot of sense for a freakin' vampire to be scum...[/QUOTE]

Somewhere, Bill and Angel say "Hi!".

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 07:22 PM
guys. Pile all your questions together and I'll answer them all when i get home. Bold them even so i don't miss any but please watch the votes as I'm easier to lynch.

This seems awfully contradictory seeing as we all openly assumed you could...

What happened to your supposed vig powers?



Change Vote: Petrija


http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/facepalm1.jpg

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 07:48 PM
Do we really think there's a vig/protector out there?

Even if crayon is scum, crayon hasn't shown the potential to physically go out and hurt people.

It's not like we're suddenly going to find 2 scum and not be able to handle them in the time it takes to pull off 2 lynches... That's the only case where I'd see a vig being useful.

As for a protector, we haven't seen any deaths lately so that probably doesn't matter. The only kill we know about it Pet's!

Vote: petrija

Crayon doesn't immediately give us a read on another player like Pet does, either. Sure, GM might not be scum if Pet is, but what do we learn about anyone if we lynch crayon?

guys. Pile all your questions together and I'll answer them all when i get home. Bold them even so i don't miss any but please watch the votes as I'm easier to lynch.

This seems awfully contradictory seeing as we all openly assumed you could...

What happened to your supposed vig powers?



Change Vote: Petrija

This is more useful now. We can't be afraid about losing protection powers or something when we don't even see kills. I understand the "unholy" item thing, but I don't think the situation is too dire to go this way first.

Crayon, at least, has been quite helpful in the thread, town or otherwise.

Petrija's posts mostly consist of her defending herself. It wasn't until she was a person of interest that we really heard from her at all.

http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/facepalm1.jpg

Relax. I had a vote on her before she said anything, took it off, and put it back without anyone else voting for her.

If any damage was done, it was before she even made that comment.

Besides, I'm the one favoring her lynch.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 08:15 PM
just a quick note to clarify. I cannot kill.

Then uhh, what were you doing targetting prophet the night he was locked up?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 08:18 PM
Pet needs to come clean now.

Her targeting prophet while he was in jail... I can think of scummy reasons for that.

her 'forgetting' she could roleblock after we lynched SM..

all that stuff doesn't look good.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 08:21 PM
Why would she recruit me, though? It seems pretty logical her claim about having to recharge her energy after getting blasted, if anything tbh.

Assuming males accounts for "creatures". Remember that I got a non-response from d_w_w on this point of clarification. Plus if I die that doesn't really prove her as town or scum either way. That, and I said it's a "far-reaching theory".

But if that's the alternative to a mislynch then sure, why not take that road?

My point was, if you die, it disproves you. :D

Or did you fib way back then?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 08:28 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png

Night 10

The creature burst through the room with inhuman speed and startled the young man, who appeared to be busily working at their desk.

The embrace was quick and, just as quickly, the creature flung the young man to the side, quite literally bouncing him off of the wall.

The young man lifted a hand, as if to protest, but was far too weak to do more.

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supermareo has been released and may participate in the thread.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x92/d_w_w/Over9000-verseMafia.png

Night 11

He grabbed the unholy instrument from its hiding place and tossed it on his workspace. Tonight, it seems, was a night for experimentation.

What did he hope to learn? What was the value in this? Was this the right time for this sort of behavior? If he made an error, which admittedly, was extremely unlikely, it would be the end of him. Yet still, he pressed on.

Maybe this was a mistake. Maybe now was the time to make his move. No, he took a deep breath and convinced himself to stick with the plan.

He sat down and performed the experiment.

Exactly as he had expected.


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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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She spun the cord above her head and twisted it into the air with skill and grace. It draped over her target, then vanished into thin air.

Her target was completely unaware of the event.

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Astil has been released and may participate in the thread.



Desk, work space...

why do these things strike me as being far too similar?


In fact, really, this is the only instance of similarity involving a player thats still alive.

crayon
04-13-2010, 08:34 PM
My point was, if you die, it disproves you. :D

Or did you fib way back then?

Gee thanks, nice point :P

No fibbing made, and if I die I figure it should at least be in a circumstance where it'll say something about the other person (not leave us exactly where we are already).

Not that this matters now, seeing as she's claiming not to be able to kill.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 08:35 PM
Gonna do all the write ups now:

She moved with inhuman grace, nimbly bouncing from building to building. Upon arriving at her destination, she peaked inside: her target was sleeping. How convenient.

She slipped in through the window and looked around. That would do, she thought. She picked the object up.

Good grief it was heavy!

After a few stumbling steps, she accidently dropped the object. The owner sprung to his feet. "What was..."

And then he fell back onto the bed, snoring away.

The woman exhaled, then strained to pull the object up again. Moments later, she and the object had slipped out of the window.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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The man sat and meditated on the situation. He thought that this universe would be good for him. This man lived for the fight and was happy to have new challenges.

Unfortunately for this champion, there were those here that did not follow his system of honor. He wouldn't even be given the chance to face his foe directly.

Instead, a mountain of a man crashed through the wall behind him, dropping bricks and pieces of the building's wooden frame onto the meditating man's unsuspecting back, pinning him to the ground. The attacker finished the job very matter of factly, slamming his foot into the back of Comradebot's head, crushing his face into the ground.

Moments later, another showed up on the scene... Too late. Oh well.



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Another massive man was out and about tonight. He stomped along the streets, looking for someone with answers. Along the way, he bumped into a more normal sized man.

This person freaked out and started screaming in the other guy's face, while simultaneously jabbing his finger into the big guy's chest. "Are you ****ing kidding me? Is this some of kind of joke? Are you trying to get me killed or what?"

This brute didn't take kindly to the finger jabbing or the yelling in his face. With surprising speed, he grabbed the smaller person's finger and bent it backwards, forcing him to his knees.

Hmm, maybe this little punk has some answers, the big guy thought. Just as he was about to break an arm, a small figure sprung out of nowhere. The small figure yelled:

"SURPRISE!"

And then blew a party blower in the big guy's direction. The contraption made a typically annoying noise, as it unrolled under the force of the small figure's lungs. The end of the party blower stopped inches from the big guys face.

With a determined look, the small figure blew again, this time harder. The party blower suddenly expanded one more time, with the end of it turning into an inflated fist, which struck the large man directly in the nose.

Irritated, he flung the other guy to the side and reached for the smaller figure. Much to his dismay, the little goof was long gone. Then he turned around and looked for the jerk from earlier. He had scattered off too.

Just his luck.

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Comradebot is dead. He was Ryu, Justice Aligned Street Fighting Champion.

Destiny has been released from jail. He is now free to participate in the thread.



The man sat awkwardly in a chair. He was deep in thought, now ready to act.

And then a monster crashed through his window and slammed into him. The attack was savage and the man was left in a pool of his blood, nearly dead. Exhausted, the terrifying creature fled into the night.


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OVER 9000 feet away...
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Once again, a massive man set into the night, looking to dish out his own brand of justice. His head wasn't too clear though. He had made some plans of his own, but couldn't remember them now.

Something, or maybe someone, had happened to him tonight.

The aroma... what was it?

What had happened to him?

Didn't matter. There was his mark. The voices in his head were clear, this guy knew something and he needed to shake him down. Of course, he looked like a tough one. Good. Just like he liked them. No need to play by the rules.

He attacked from behind, pummelling his target into the ground. He roughed him up but good.

And the idiot didn't talk.

So he slammed his target's head in a car door.

Repeatedly.

Eventually, his target talked. They all talked. Happy with his work, the man turned to head back to his room.

*BAM*

The man fell to the ground, bleeding from the torso. Shooting him from a distance? What a bunch of pansies. Slowly, the man climbed to his feet.

*BAM*

Another gunshot, this time to the throat. Again, the man fell to the ground. Choaking on his blood, the man struggled to his feet and responded to his invisible attacker.

"Is...that...the...best...you...can...do?"

Again, the man pulled himself to his feet.

*BAM*

Another bullet, this time to the stomach. The man fell to his knees. He could survive being shot, but this was getting ridiculous. The killer was good. He'd done his homework. Injured, the man knew he needed to get to cover. He crawled slowly, but it was no use.

*BAM*

The bullet flew through Arrow's head, dropping him to the ground.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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A meeting had just concluded. A reunion of sorts.

Sadly, it'd be a one-shot reunion for one of the participants.

The woman slinked along the roof, distracted by her success that night. She never noticed the monster of the man step out of the shadows beside her. With a stiff shove, he forced her off the roof.

Startled, she was just barely able to snap her whip upward, snagging the man's wrist and preventing her fall. Dangling off the edge, she started climbing the whip.

The man smirked, then grabbed the whip with both hands. He strained... and strained some more.

*SNAP*

Amazingly, the man ripped the bullwhip in half. Zeel1 fell to the ground, making a sickening thud upon impact.

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Arrows is dead. He was Marv, Justice Aligned Brute of Sin City.

Zeel1 is dead. She was Catwoman, DC Aligned Tantalizing Thief.

Nedew is injured and hospitalized and may not currently speak in the thread.

Jaded is injured and hospitalized and may not currently speak in the thread.

mjdgoldeneye has been released from jail and is free to participate in the thread.



She stood on the rooftop, oblivious to all that was going on around her. Her powers were dangerous and she risked much tonight, yet still she was determined to try to make an impact.

With her hands raised above her head, she gazed out to the city.

"Winds of destiny...let there be change!"

Energy burst from her hands and into the town.

The effects of her action were not quite as dramatic as she had hoped.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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A woman stared at her notes, trying to make sense of what she had learned that night.

In her universe, she was powerful and deadly. In the OVER 9000-verse, she was unable to access her powers and was limited to the use of her brain. Mind you, it was a marvelous brain. And already, it was putting together an impressive amount of information.

Still, it is a safe bet that this woman missed her powers tonight, as the massive man kicked down her door. Quickly, he backed the startled woman into a corner.

This was not what he was expected. She tried to convince him to let her go.

Everything she said made sense.

No matter.

The brute grabbed i effin rule by the wrist and effortlessly flung her through a window and to her death.



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OVER 9000 seconds more seconds later...
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She slinked along and peered through the window. And the she looked and looked some more.

There was nothing here that she could figure out how to use.

Silently, she cursed to herself, then fled away into the night, before the dwelling's resident noticed her presence.



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OVER 9000 seconds feet away...
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For a second time, this man sat awkwardly in his chair. The probability of being attacked again, in the same spot, was small. Someone would be watching, right? Very low chance of someone attacking.

Small enough probability that he'd risk being here.

After all, his deductive abilities were 72% better in this spot. The rewards were worth the risks.

He had always been a strange one. He liked to refer to himself as an outlier. Apparently, his death would be an outlier as well. For tonight, despite all of his mental reassurances to himself, he would die.

*BAM*

Nedew slumped over, bleeding from the head.

Tonight, Lady Justice would cry, for it would surely be difficult to stop the tide of evil now.

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i effin rule is dead. She was Moonstone, Dark Avengers Aligned Psychologist Posing as Ms. Marvel

Nedew is dead. He was L Lawliet, Justice Aligned Greatest Detective

Prophet has been released from jail and can now participate in the thread.





The man held the small object in his hands. He stared at it and smiled. And then he ran.

Faster and faster.

And then...



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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Giant whoopie cushion? Check.

Cartoon-sized mallet? Check.

Man-sized mouse trap? Check.

Good, she had everything that she needed to have a good time for the night. She started tossing the items in her suitcase, sure that she was out to help her cause tonight.

Sadly, it wasn't to be.

*BAM*

The bullet came from seemingly nowhere. Tha Black Phenom dropped to the ground, dead before she knew what hit her.



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Elsewhere...
OVER 9000 paces away...
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The confused man looked around. Where was his target? And why was...ah, nevermind.

Everything about tonight was weird.

Just weird.



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OVER 9000 less than 9000 seconds later...
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He could hear him coming. How naive, to think that they could get the drop on him.

Deftly, he dropped behind the massive man. "Looking for me?"

Startled, the large man turned around. "Actually... yes." The large man threw a massive hook to the smaller man's head.

The agile man ducked the attack and responded with a kick to the large man's stomach. No effect.

He was risking much, engaging this monster in hand to hand combat. It was time to end this. A swift kick to the inside of the knee, twisting around... a back elbow to the nose. A sickening crunch.

A front kick to the groin, then a hard chop to the collarbone. The attack brought the big man to his knees.

Gonvick was startled, however, when the large man punched him in the stomach, forcing all of the air form his lungs.

How did he shrug off those att...

His thought process was interuppted, as the large man flung him into a nearby brick wall, face first. He was disoriented. His senses couldn't compensate for the trauma his brain was currently experiencing.

Gonvick's last vision would be the brute standing over him.

Holding a dumpster.

And then dropping it on him.



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UNDER 9000 Milliseconds Before Dawn...
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Finally, the old pervert was gone. She made her move. The door collapsed under the kick and the figure rolled into the room. The occupant, startled, jumped to her feet, ready to defend herself.

The home invader pointed the odd contraption at the resident.

Was it really wise to use this device?

Too late for second thoughts.

*BZZZPT*

The device made an odd noise as she pressed the on bottom. A beam of light blue energy short forward and hit her target. She looked down. It was firing backwards as we...

And then, they both stood there. Awkwardly.

Motionless.

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Tha Black Phenom is dead. She was Harley Quinn, Arkham Asylum Aligned Hench Wench.

Gonvick is dead. He was Daredevil, Justice Aligned Man Without Fear.

derek_b and moon_lit_tears appear to be frozen in time. They cannot currently speak in the thread.

Petrija has been released from jail and is now allowed to speak in the thread.




Once again, the figure stood atop one of the highest buildings in Mafia-Ville.

Feeling reinvigorated, energy jumped from her hands and into the city.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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She dropped in from the skylight and looked around.

This was not what she had expected. Quickly, she grabbed some from off a table and darted towards the exit. She swung the door open and ....

*BAM*

The bullet sailed through Jman2k3's head, dropping her to the ground.

The killer stood there, smiling at his handy work. He never noticed the other figure creep up behind him. A hard blow from behind forced the gun out of his hands and instantly, the killer was pulled into a tight choke hold.

He struggled. And then he struggled some more. But trypio couldn't get out of the hold.

Slowly, everything went black.

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Jman2k3 is dead. She was The Black Cat, Marvel Aligned Tantalizing Thief.

trypio is dead. He was Bullseye, Dark Avengers Aligned Assassin Posing as Hawkeye.




The man sat his desk, with his feet propped up on the table. He flipped through some ridiculously large book. He was a prodigy of sorts and could make a case at any time. Still, he hadn't feel strongly enough about his beliefs so far and had thus tried to keep out of the limelight.

*CRUNCH!*

As his door snapped open, the man jumped up from his desk and pointed at the intruder. "OBJE..."

*BZZPT!*

His expression was cut off by a scathing burst of energy from his intruder's hand. Glotnot looked down. He could see through his chest. Following this revelation, he slumped to the ground, rather dead.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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She was biding her time. Nearly ready to make her move. She had predicted her own death and wanted to make her presence known before it was too late.

And yet she held off. Again.

Unfortunately, her predictions were right.

As she meditated in the glow of the moonlight, the ground came to life and the room violently shook. She jumped to her feet, ready to defend herself. And then a massive vine slammed through the window. With skill, she dodged the vine and produced her weapons. Quickly, the green entity was torn asunder.

Three more vines came through three more windows. And again, she avoided and dispatched her foes.

Then a massive root emerged through the floor. It wrapped itself around her body. She fought and struggled, stabbing at the root with her weapon. Yet the root was old and strong and could not be separated.

Slowly, it tightened around derek_b's body. And slowly, her life faded away.

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Glotnot is dead. He was Phoenix Wright, Justice Aligned Defense Attorney.

derek_b is dead. She was Elektra, Marvel Aligned Gorgeous Greek Assassin.

moon_lit_tears has been released and may now participate in the thread.




With a solomn look on his face, the man climbed to the tallest building in all of the Mafia-Ville. He looked down. This place weakened him. Yet, now, he felt, was the time to act. He concentrated on gathering his energy. His focus was strong.

How much? All of it. All of it was his to command. He whispered two words.

And then it began to rain.

*Drip...drip...drip...clink...clink...clink...crun ch...crunch...crunch...THUD...THUD...THUD*

And then the rain turned to hail. The hail to ice shards. And then a proverbial blizard of deadly ice chunks covered Mafia-Ville, cutting off the city's power and keeping all from traveling outside.

Shivering and more than a little scared, everyone said "uh-uh, we're not going outside or doing anything at all tonight".

And so it was until dawn.

masterded has been released and may now participate in the thread.





His eyes were closed. Slowly, a devious smile spread across his face. "It's time."

And then he opened his eyes.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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The woman grabbed the package, which was heavier than expected and walked inside. She wasn't expecting any deliveries tonight and was quite curious as to what it was. Her curiosity would have to be delayed however, as the building began to shake. Slowly, vines and limbs tore through the walls and moving towards her.

Deftly, and still holding the package, she dodged one vine and then another. A smaller vine crawled up from behind and attached itself to her ankle. This caused the woman to trip and fall to the ground as she tried to make a run for it. The shaking grew louder and, at this point, would better be described as rumbling. Slowly, a massive tree root emerged through the floor and positioned itself above the woman's head.

Things did not look good.

*CRASH*

At a speed that can only be described as inhuman, the figure darted through a window and snapped the massive root of the ground and tossed it to the side. With a surprisingly gentle motion, the figure reached down and offered the woman his hand. Quickly, he pulled her into his arms and darted out of the building, dodging all of the insidious plant-life along the way.

Four blocks were covered in four seconds. He set the woman, still holding her package, down, and turned to head back to the scene. He wouldn't make it, however...

*BZZPT!*

... as another figure, from an impressive distance, would blast him in the face with a burst of energy. The unlikely hero dropped to the ground, his face and upper torso scorched. Miraculously, he was still alive, though in this condition, he might not be for long.

And so the woman would return the favor immediately, as she grabbed him by the arm and pulled him to safety.



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He opened the door to his makeshift workshop and walked in. It was a successful night, but he still had some more work to do. After tossing his trench coat on a nearby couch, he sat at his workbench and grabbed a soldering iron. Just as he activated the device, he felt something wrench inside of him. He dropped the tool and stumbled away from the desk, feeling out of breath. He grabbed at his chest. What... was...

With a wrenched look on his face, Waghlon fell to the floor.

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Waghlon is dead. He was Donatello, Justice Aligned Ninja Turtle.

petrija is injured, hospitalized and may not participate in the thread.

crayon has been released and may participate in the thread.




One very, very large man, in the center of town, was causing quite the commotion. He was marching about, breaking just about everything in sight. As if this town hasn't faced enough hardship!

Obviously, some people were quite distracted and stopped to watch the mayhem.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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Was there no way to get in this infernal building?

Frustrated, the figure darted around the corner and bolted through the front door. When in doubt, go head first.

All of this was for naught, however, as the figure soon came to stare at the barrel of a large handgun. "Visiting hours are over."

Irritated, the figured gave up on their task for the night.

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Prophet has been released from jail and is now free to speak in the thread.




The creature burst through the room with inhuman speed and startled the young man, who appeared to be busily working at their desk.

The embrace was quick and, just as quickly, the creature flung the young man to the side, quite literally bouncing him off of the wall.

The young man lifted a hand, as if to protest, but was far too weak to do more.







He grabbed the unholy instrument from its hiding place and tossed it on his workspace. Tonight, it seems, was a night for experimentation.

What did he hope to learn? What was the value in this? Was this the right time for this sort of behavior? If he made an error, which admittedly, was extremely unlikely, it would be the end of him. Yet still, he pressed on.

Maybe this was a mistake. Maybe now was the time to make his move. No, he took a deep breath and convinced himself to stick with the plan.

He sat down and performed the experiment.

Exactly as he had expected.



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OVER 9000 seconds later...
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She spun the cord above her head and twisted it into the air with skill and grace. It draped over her target, then vanished into thin air.

Her target was completely unaware of the event.

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Astil has been released and may participate in the thread.

iMac
04-13-2010, 08:46 PM
iMac - do you want to look smug that you're the only person not on my lynch list?

I'm not usually a smug person tbh. But I can make an exception. :p

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 08:48 PM
So...draw any conclusions from those Anti?

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 08:50 PM
iMac - do you want to look smug that you're the only person not on my lynch list?


Wait, I'm on your lynch list too. How rude!

crayon
04-13-2010, 08:52 PM
Desk, work space...

why do these things strike me as being far too similar?


In fact, really, this is the only instance of similarity involving a player thats still alive.

Fair enough point, but keep in mind that Waghlon also had a "work bench".. Integra Hellsing could have one.. hell, even Nightwing or Judge Dredd could have a "work space" (doubtful that iMac is the person, but I'm just saying). Don't expect it to remove any doubts, but something to keep in mind.

Of all the write ups, the only thing I can see, besides the unaccounted "it's time" guy, is

... as another figure, from an impressive distance, would blast him in the face with a burst of energy. The unlikely hero dropped to the ground, his face and upper torso scorched. Miraculously, he was still alive, though in this condition, he might not be for long.

Could easily be exactly what we've been told it is, but I'm just wondering if Integra's servant really would be considered an "unlikely hero"? Unless it's just ambiguity in how d_w_w chose to word the sentence.

crayon
04-13-2010, 08:53 PM
Could easily be exactly what we've been told it is, but I'm just wondering if Integra's servant really would be considered an "unlikely hero"? Unless it's just ambiguity in how d_w_w chose to word the sentence.

Although, I also don't really see who else pet would be if not Alucard either, so it just as likely means nothing

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 09:09 PM
N1

Black Cat Steals From Astil


Cbot being killed by Lprock


Arrows targetting Glot I think and then being targetted by Harley/TBP


N2

Nedew getting attacked by SO


Arrows, attacking Jaded and then being killed by Trypio


Zeel recruiting me and then being murdered by Lprock


N3


BHK Switching SO and Pet


IER getting killed by Lprock


Jman targetting Prophet (I think)


Nedew being killed by Trypio



N4


No idea


TBP being killed by Trypio


Someone targetting MJ


Lprock killing Gonvick

Astil leaves MLT, after which Derek is frozen with MLT[/B


N5


BHK, empowered by Eayragt, switches Grunt and Lprock


Jman tries to recruit Prophet, is killed by Trypio, who then, in turn, is killed by one of us. :D



N6


Masterded kills Glotnot


Prophet kills Derek



N7


Bak shortens the night phase


N8


"Its Time" No idea


Grunt gets package from Waghlon, Attacked by prophet, Protected by Petrija, who in turn is attacked by Masterded, Pet protected/saved by Grunt (or perhaps just flavor)


Waghlon dies mysteriously


N9


MJ eats his shrooms


Pet targets Prophet but is blocked by Imac


N10


Pet attacks Crayon


N11

Another unexplained scene with a man and an item. Since no one's even hinted at such an ability/character This is at least one scum.

Wallbanger Lassos MJ


A lot of the stuff, in retrospect, is pretty cut and dry. In fact upon re-reading it I pretty much believe Bak now.

His two words he mutters before summoning the Ice are Ban Kai which fits that character.



When Destiny died, it was part of a mid day event. DWW said then and there that there were several such events planned. We haven't seen anything like that since.

DWW has purposefully kept the remaining scum hidden, perhaps because it was already anticipated that the Masons and the Scum would be the first stage of the game. What is going on now is something else.


Here's teh remaining players, confirmed gender, and whetehr or not they go out at night, to possibly demonstrate an ability


1. Antithesis Male, Night Wing, Goes out at night
3. Astil Male, Ryosji, goes out at night
4. bak42 Male, Histugaya not seen out at night twice that I've tracked him
5. BHK1978 Female, Scarlet Witch. Seen targetting SO and Pet
6. Bluestar / petrija Male/Creature. Alucard. Goes out at night
11. Eayragt Male, Nagato goes out at night
14. GruntMark Female, Integra, doesn't go out at night
16. iMac Male, Judge Dread, doesn't go out at night
21. mjdgoldeneye Male, Mario, doesn't go out at night
22. moon_lit_tears Female, aint saying, only went out once. :D
25. Sean McFly / crayon Male, frankly i forget who, doesn't go out at night
32. Wallbanger Female, went out at night once. :D


Added notes:

Last night Astil was locked up, the write up with the unholy artifact seems to discount Astil

Jaded is dead for now, and until he can be voted on, not much can be done with him.

BHK, MJ, Banger, and MLT I will all vouch for now.

Imac has a claim that I believe with an ability that is most likely town in nature.

That leaves Bak, Eayragt, Petrija, Grunt and CRayon.


Did Eayragt say if he targetted anyone last night?

Aside from that, given the claims and all, I'm looking hard at Crayon.

iMac
04-13-2010, 09:09 PM
Are there any theories as to what alignment our remaining threat(s) would be? I mean, that's assuming there's no more Arkham Asylum or Dark Avengers Aligned.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 09:12 PM
Crayon. L:ead the lynch on MH. Perhaps in this scenario the greatest threat to a third party scum would be a possible reverse investigator.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 09:18 PM
Although, I also don't really see who else pet would be if not Alucard either, so it just as likely means nothing

You made the mod.. gotta be someone in there with an interest in items or unholy stuff?

Such a character would be male

crayon
04-13-2010, 09:28 PM
Crayon. L:ead the lynch on MH. Perhaps in this scenario the greatest threat to a third party scum would be a possible reverse investigator.

Pursue all the leads you want, but c'mon this again? Not leading the lynch on a previously dead character who avoided the thread and any questions directed towards the validity of his claim would have been just as, if not more scummy.

Since there's still suspicion about me, why not just use iMac or Wallbanger to prove it (if the majority of people are adament that they're still trustable (I still have my theory about a heel turn))?

Also, no answers regarding the "it's time" person, as well as Waghlon's death I now see. It's possible they're connected, possible that they're not. The problem is that there's all these unanswered questions.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 09:31 PM
Night 8

Its time. By my count, that was the night following the 17th death, after MH was lynched.

17 is half of 34

34 players in this game.

Its Time guy was triggered by half the player base dying

Example:

You are Scummy X, Evil Aligned with a role so sinister 'only Antithesis could figure out'.

Long have you sought to control the Over 9000 Universe, and now recent events have given you your chance. A patient man, you are willing to bide your time until half the players (17 in total) have died, at which point you will begin your search for unholy artifacts that will bestow evil powers such as:

MLT's underwear which will allow you to beckon male characters to your PM box.
mjdgoldeneye's rhetoric textbook, which you will use to constantly beat Antithesis over the head with.

And so on...



Sooooooo whoever our scum guy is, he probably claimed to not go out early on in the game in case he was watched or tracked. In otehr words, he couldn't claim an ability he couldn't demonstrate yet. He knew "its time' would be a while in getting here.

Since N8 what has happened?

N9 MJ eats his shroom. 50% chance people targetted him

N10 Pet roleblocks Crayon

N11 Bad guy finally checks on his artifact

Could be that the guy didn't chack his artifact earlier because he was getting blocked?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 09:35 PM
Forgot to add, "its Time" guy couldn't get the artifact N 8 maybe because he was in jail.

crayon
04-13-2010, 09:37 PM
You made the mod.. gotta be someone in there with an interest in items or unholy stuff?

Such a character would be male

An interest in items or unholy stuff, as a defining character trait.. not really anyone I can think of (keep in mind this is a mod of 1,400 workers, some which were added purely out of obligation than because I was interested in them). As a general trait it could come down to any tyrant or meglomaniac (collecting of such stuff for their plans).

An unholy item though, that's taking us more into the realm of dark arts, so potentially some kind of witch doctor, satanist, etc.. Clown from Spawn (is in same promotion as Marv/Arrows)? Again, doesn't really match the writeups though.

Honestly, without more info it could be almost anyone

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 09:39 PM
Please give my panties back the way you got them, CLEAN!!1

crayon
04-13-2010, 09:46 PM
Since N8 what has happened?

N9 MJ eats his shroom. 50% chance people targetted him

N10 Pet roleblocks Crayon

N11 Bad guy finally checks on his artifact

Could be that the guy didn't chack his artifact earlier because he was getting blocked?

Forgot to add, "its Time" guy couldn't get the artifact N 8 maybe because he was in jail.

Makes sense that it could be a halfway mark thing. Obviously I don't agree with the finger being pointed at me, but it makes logical sense and fits pretty close in line with my theory as well (anti's being that the person was always evil, and mine being that someone may have turned). Both seem plausible, anti's possibly more (if only because it'd be hell trying to figure out who had turned).

I'll also reiterate that whoever it is, their role ability should have changed in power level, if this line of thinking is correct (mine or anti's), which means Astil's original power levels should be compared with any new ones which are discovered

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 09:51 PM
After looking at everything again, I'm beginning to think crayon, BHK, and eayragt are the least secure roles (followed closely by petrija still).

The "unholy instrument" guy doesn't seem to be working with something "unholy" as in "occult". It seems to be more along the lines of "malevolent". This is just an guess, but it does seem more scientific than anything. (It seems scientific and prone to failure.)

There's this too: "Maybe this was a mistake. Maybe now was the time to make his move. No, he took a deep breath and convinced himself to stick with the plan."

This suggests the guy had some sort of other option(s).

I also found this about Void:

Allegedly due to covering up his past as a thief and addict, Robert Reynolds projects an entity as a dark side effect of his powers. It has been claimed that for every benevolent act the Sentry performs, the Void corresponds with attempting an act of malevolence. He was formerly unaware that the Void was a false personality, but has since been informed otherwise. It was recently, at least temporarily, physically separated from his being, with a "shard" of its essence placed within Emma Frost which is later transferred to Scott Summers and currently resides locked away in his mind.

Several reasons for the existence of the Void have been given: the innate division between good and evil in any nominally normal person; a "mind virus" put into place by the mutant Mastermind by order of the crazed General; the idea that the Void is in fact the true personality of Rob Reynolds, and the Sentry is the false one; as mentioned above, the result of covering up his past; and, according to Norman Osborn - who, in this case, may or may not have been sincere - the Sentry's superhumanity eroded his humanity, leading to a 'void' in his life. As yet, it is not clear which, if any, of these reasons is in fact the real one.

The Void possesses the ability to shape-shift, and through its control over the weather and darkness it can create destructive storms and deadly "infini-tendrils" that attack the mind. Victims impaled on the tendrils experience traumatic visions of the past, present, and future. Its regular appearance varies between a shadowy, trench coat-wearing villain to a massive hurricane of darkness. It can also assume powers dependent on shape, like a flame form that breathes fire, alternately an armored monster with super strength and toughness. It is at its strongest during the night and in the Negative Zone. Coincidentally, Sentry is at his weakest in the Negative Zone. A physical assault required much effort to hold off, even with the combined force fields of Iron Man, Doctor Strange and the Invisible Woman, while dozens of other superheroes and well-armed S.H.I.E.L.D. agents simultaneously attacked it

The bolded bits are interesting... This opens up even more doors for interpretation...

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 09:51 PM
Makes sense that it could be a halfway mark thing. Obviously I don't agree with the finger being pointed at me, but it makes logical sense and fits pretty close in line with my theory as well (anti's being that the person was always evil, and mine being that someone may have turned). Both seem plausible, anti's possibly more (if only because it'd be hell trying to figure out who had turned).

I'll also reiterate that whoever it is, their role ability should have changed in power level, if this line of thinking is correct (mine or anti's), which means Astil's original power levels should be compared with any new ones which are discovered

Well, while I'm putting the evidence out there, truth is Unholy Artifact sounds a lot like UT's urn to me.

Did Eayragt ever say if he targetted anyone last night?

As for the Astil point, that could be true. Making Astil one of the most important players in the game.


Is he still playing BTW or does he need to be replaced?


Five dollars says if he shows up, he starts questioning MLT again... :rolleyes:

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 09:52 PM
Also, because of the weather thing, I worry about bak... His claim is great, but still.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 10:03 PM
Eayragt's character is.. female?

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 10:05 PM
Eayragt's character is.. female?

Wait, what? Did I fall asleep again?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 10:09 PM
Wait, what? Did I fall asleep again?

Claimed Yuki Nagato... just looked it up. Its a alien hybrid in teh form of a young human female. Has the ability to power up "items" amongst other things.


Coulda swore he was said his character was male though.

crayon
04-13-2010, 10:09 PM
Wait, what? Did I fall asleep again?

Eayragt claimed Yuki Nagato, which is believable enough (is pretty big in the anime world, and I'm pretty sure has some mentioning of powering up baseball bats or something in the database bios)

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 10:11 PM
Has there been any proof of "powering up"? I know he's claimed to have used his power, but I can't articulate what such a power would even do...

How can you protect someone MORE or investigate someone MORE.

It seems a bit off...

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 10:14 PM
Has there been any proof of "powering up"? I know he's claimed to have used his power, but I can't articulate what such a power would even do...

How can you protect someone MORE or investigate someone MORE.

It seems a bit off...

Astil said he got a second result on the night Eayragt powered him up.

Astil had a turtle shell....

I've been sworn to secrecy but I'ma go ahead and say this, I know of a certain lasso that could be pwoered up as well.

Given that, I'd think Eayragt is town aligned, and actually, quite important at this juncture.

crayon
04-13-2010, 10:17 PM
I'm gonna head off from the forums for a bit (Heavy Rain and assignments call). I'd rather be locked up or lassoed than lynched if people do make a decision while I'm away, but do what you gotta do.

If you don't decide to keep me around, just remember my theory that it may be possible that those who were previously 100% town may not neccesarily be operating under the same rules any more.

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 10:18 PM
Tis why I seem to be focusing on Crayon.

But think about this. Eayragt said he empowered Jaded and Jaded ended up silenced.

Eayragt's abilities probably only work on items.

What item did Jaded have to get silenced by Eayragt?

Antithesis
04-13-2010, 10:26 PM
Jaded's claimed the only pro wrestler in the game. everyone else has either claimed comic book, anime, video game, or 4 chan type characters and thats all been bourne out.

bak42
04-13-2010, 10:29 PM
Astil said he got a second result on the night Eayragt powered him up.

Astil had a turtle shell....

I've been sworn to secrecy but I'ma go ahead and say this, I know of a certain lasso that could be pwoered up as well.

Given that, I'd think Eayragt is town aligned, and actually, quite important at this juncture.

Didn't BHK get powered up as well?

d_w_w
04-13-2010, 10:39 PM
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.

crayon - 1 (GruntMark)
petrija -2 (eayragt, mjdgoldeneye)

petrija
04-13-2010, 10:47 PM
So... no one's got any questions with the way you guys are freaking?

Here's the best way I can explain. I'm Alucard. We know this. My role title, in full is, Alucard Hellsing, Justice Aligned Vampire Operative.

Due to being a vampire, I am less powerful during the day, and I am therefore easier to lynch.

On the flip side, I'm nearly impossible to kill at night.

The only thing I do at night, is protect GruntMark. It is a default, and I don't send in pms. So what the whole "Bluestar was rapidfiring off pms" was all about, I'm not sure. Just to be clear, GM and I cannot speak outside the thread.

The only exception to this was because I was injured on Night 8.

When I was injured, I was told that as a Vampire, a hospital would do me no good, so I'd have to feed on someone to heal. The person I chose to feed on would be roleblocked, and I would heal. Also, if investigated WHILE I was feeding, I would come up as a threat, because vampires are "scary". And, while feeding, GM would be unprotected because I was busy. (That's why it would have been nice to know about said tool thing that GM mentioned.)

Night 9, my first attempt to heal was to target Prophet, because of all the controversy surrounding him, I figured he was scum, thus, no harm no foul if I hurt him. I wasn't told that my attack would injure someone, but I figured the nature of the attack, it just might hurt them along with roleblock them. I'm an idiot because I didn't realize he was in jail, and therefore I was unable to heal.

The next night, being Night 10, I asked GM who he thought was scum (because as I have said MANY times before now, I'm in so far over my head in subject knowledge it's not even funny, which is WHY, MJ, I've been so quiet. I've stated this.) He told me either Crayon or Supermareo. Seeing as Supermareo was in jail, I chose to go after Crayon.

And, finally, I think the last thing y'all were wondering,

My role does suggest that I may become a very unhappy panda if Grunt dies.

I think that answers just about all the questions that were asked, and that's all my info out on the table, I think. Although I'm not sure I wanted to share all of it.

But it figured it was kind of necessary seeing how string happy MJD is DESPITE the fact that I mentioned I'd be happy to answer any questions, and to watch the votes, and the reasoning.

I don't know enough about MJD or his claim to place a vote, because I might be silly to do so. How sure are we that he's town?

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 10:51 PM
He's been confirmed via lie detector as town.

Astil
04-13-2010, 10:52 PM
Does anyone think the "artifact" is a Death Note?

Astil
04-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Has there been any proof of "powering up"? I know he's claimed to have used his power, but I can't articulate what such a power would even do...

How can you protect someone MORE or investigate someone MORE.

It seems a bit off...

I got to role cop two people in one night.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Lie detector means you can't touch me.

**Dances**

As for being over your head, I've been openly useless. That's better than quietly useless! :p

Anyway, fine:

Change Vote: Crayon

I'm going to bed. If we go this way, so be it. If not, I might not be on to vote, but I doubt that'll be a problem.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Does anyone think the "artifact" is a Death Note?

Wait....

I know some of this from researching another character.

Isnt the Death Note guy, a kinda evil young dude?

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 11:05 PM
Does anyone think the "artifact" is a Death Note?

Is a death note an "instrument"? There's a lot of quoting of "artifact" and I don't know if it's called that. I know it's not exclusively called that.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 11:06 PM
Pet - I put together after the fact that I was probably open to attack those nights. Fortunatly MJD I guess had me kinda covered that one.

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:08 PM
Wait....

I know some of this from researching another character.

Isnt the Death Note guy, a kinda evil young dude?

Light? Yeah, and L is his good guy conterpart.

He also likes to have things go just as planned.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 11:09 PM
Is a death note an "instrument"? There's a lot of quoting of "artifact" and I don't know if it's called that. I know it's not exclusively called that.

Wiki:

"a supernatural notebook....grants its user the ability to kill anyone whose face they have seen, by writing the victim's name in the notebook"

Wallbanger
04-13-2010, 11:09 PM
Wait....

I know some of this from researching another character.

Isnt the Death Note guy, a kinda evil young dude?

Depends on your take. I think most Death Note fans (of which my daughter is one of the more rabid ones) would classify Light Yagami as an anti-hero and not evil per se. His methods and tools are dark, and his motivations shift, but up until the time Light's own name is written in the Death Note most would not consider him 'evil' at his core.

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:11 PM
Is a death note an "instrument"? There's a lot of quoting of "artifact" and I don't know if it's called that. I know it's not exclusively called that.

To be honest, I dunno. I hate Death Note.

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 11:11 PM
Is a death note an "instrument"? There's a lot of quoting of "artifact" and I don't know if it's called that. I know it's not exclusively called that.

Wiki:

"a supernatural notebook....grants its user the ability to kill anyone whose face they have seen, by writing the victim's name in the notebook"

Oh, ok...

Is mayonnaise an instrument?

Sorry, I had too...

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 11:12 PM
Light? Yeah, and L is his good guy conterpart.

He also likes to have things go just as planned.

Holy. Carp.

You may have just solved it.

If so, Im suitably impressed.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 11:13 PM
Oh, ok...

Is mayonnaise an instrument?

Sorry, I had too...

Its a condiment.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 11:15 PM
You use it to kill people.

So yes.

Its an instrument of death.

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:17 PM
Holy. Carp.

You may have just solved it.

If so, Im suitably impressed.

Bak or Crayon?

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 11:20 PM
Light? Yeah, and L is his good guy conterpart.

He also likes to have things go just as planned.

Holy. Carp.

You may have just solved it.

If so, Im suitably impressed.

To be fair, Bowser would be my counterpart, and you're the only one with a shell... :D

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:23 PM
To be fair, Bowser would be my counterpart, and you're the only one with a shell... :D

So you disagree?

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 11:24 PM
So you disagree?

Not really, just doing my job. I went to bed about an hour ago. This isn't even me.

GruntMark
04-13-2010, 11:24 PM
Bak42:

With a solomn look on his face, the man climbed to the tallest building in all of the Mafia-Ville. He looked down. This place weakened him. Yet, now, he felt, was the time to act. He concentrated on gathering his energy. His focus was strong.

How much? All of it. All of it was his to command. He whispered two words.

And then it began to rain.


Crayon:

the young man, who appeared to be busily working at their desk.


From what I know...Crayon.

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:28 PM
Vote: bak42

I've heard of Ichigo, Renji, Rukia, Orihime, Chad, Byakuya, Ichida (all sp?)

but not Baks guy. /shrug

moon_lit_tears
04-13-2010, 11:29 PM
Not really, just doing my job. I went to bed about an hour ago. This isn't even me.

Dude! I have been up for almost 48 hours. :(

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:33 PM
Vote: bak42

I've heard of Ichigo, Renji, Rukia, Orihime, Chad, Byakuya, Ichida (all sp?)

but not Baks guy. /shrug

Bak42:



Crayon:



From what I know...Crayon.

Shoulda read that post first.

Change Vote: Crayon

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:37 PM
Bak42:



Crayon:



From what I know...Crayon.

Light is at a desk for epic moments in Death Note.

Wallbanger
04-13-2010, 11:42 PM
The creature burst through the room with inhuman speed and startled the young man, who appeared to be busily working at their desk.

Eeenteresting choice of pronoun here, especially considering the current direction of the conversation...

mjdgoldeneye
04-13-2010, 11:44 PM
Nothing means anything anymore. Let's just lynch Mr. T and call it a night...

Astil
04-13-2010, 11:45 PM
Eeenteresting choice of pronoun here, especially considering the current direction of the conversation...

/nod

d_w_w
04-14-2010, 01:03 AM
It is now Day Phase 12. With 12 players remaining, you have until 3:30 pm EDT / 8:30 pm BST on Thursday, April 15th to reach a majority of 7. If a majority is not reached, a no lynch will be declared.

crayon - 3 (GruntMark, mjdgoldeneye, Astil)
petrija -1 (eayragt)

eayragt
04-14-2010, 02:55 AM
As Eayragt says, it may also be someone previously town, turning scum. I don't know how likely this is in a mafia game.. but if that's what happened then it makes everything a lot more hazy. Astil (being in jail) and iMac would be the one's I'd put the most faith in.. possibly Wallbanger too (as long we're assuming that a townie gaining the ability to kill renders their previous abilities unusable). I'd double ensure not lynching Astil because if someone has gained the power to kill, their role power level may also have changed, right?

Conveniently it also places me in the clear since I was jailed the night that this happened, but take that for what you will. Last thing I want to do is get lynched if Jaded actually has died, since there's the possibility that I could still survive an attack.


Actually, it doesn't clear you at all. The quote was of a man opening his eyes and saying "It's time" deviously". That could have been done in jail./

For the record, the Lasso of Truth declares that mjdgoldeneye is honest here.

For some reason I'm calling it the Lasso of Love. Wierd.


N2

Nedew getting attacked by SO


Arrows, attacking Jaded and then being killed by Trypio


Zeel recruiting me and then being murdered by Lprock


Do we know that Arrows attacked Jaded? Because if so I guess that I didn't silence him - he was silenced because of Arrows. I've always assumed that it was me, but I may be wrong, especially as I haven't silenced anyone since. I did have a theory about that, but it may be wrong. Not that I thikn this has any relevance to now.

Did Eayragt ever say if he targetted anyone last night?


I can only go out every other night.

Eayragt's character is.. female?

Yep.

Claimed Yuki Nagato... just looked it up. Its a alien hybrid in teh form of a young human female. Has the ability to power up "items" amongst other things.


Coulda swore he was said his character was male though.

Nope. I'll say now, if you can find a quote of me saying I was male I vote for myself. There's not one there, because although I may know nothing about my character, wiki dipicts her as female... well female form, anyway.

Tis why I seem to be focusing on Crayon.

But think about this. Eayragt said he empowered Jaded and Jaded ended up silenced.

Eayragt's abilities probably only work on items.

What item did Jaded have to get silenced by Eayragt?

My theory on why I silenced Jaded (assuming I did, and it turns out I may not) is because he didn't have an active night ability, therefore he didn't gain from being powered up, so got overpowered, and silenced.

However, Jaded said that he knew he was powered up on Night 2. Hang on - perhaps Arrows tried to vig Jaded, and his "powering up" meant that instead of dying for a day he just got silenced? That would seem to make sense.

Jaded's claimed the only pro wrestler in the game. everyone else has either claimed comic book, anime, video game, or 4 chan type characters and thats all been bourne out.

However, Jaded is dead, and if he's the only scum left that we've won. I'm happy to go back to him when we've found scum.

So... no one's got any questions with the way you guys are freaking?

Here's the best way I can explain. I'm Alucard. We know this. My role title, in full is, Alucard Hellsing, Justice Aligned Vampire Operative.

Due to being a vampire, I am less powerful during the day, and I am therefore easier to lynch.

On the flip side, I'm nearly impossible to kill at night.

The only thing I do at night, is protect GruntMark. It is a default, and I don't send in pms. So what the whole "Bluestar was rapidfiring off pms" was all about, I'm not sure. Just to be clear, GM and I cannot speak outside the thread.

The only exception to this was because I was injured on Night 8.

When I was injured, I was told that as a Vampire, a hospital would do me no good, so I'd have to feed on someone to heal. The person I chose to feed on would be roleblocked, and I would heal. Also, if investigated WHILE I was feeding, I would come up as a threat, because vampires are "scary". And, while feeding, GM would be unprotected because I was busy. (That's why it would have been nice to know about said tool thing that GM mentioned.)

Night 9, my first attempt to heal was to target Prophet, because of all the controversy surrounding him, I figured he was scum, thus, no harm no foul if I hurt him. I wasn't told that my attack would injure someone, but I figured the nature of the attack, it just might hurt them along with roleblock them. I'm an idiot because I didn't realize he was in jail, and therefore I was unable to heal.

The next night, being Night 10, I asked GM who he thought was scum (because as I have said MANY times before now, I'm in so far over my head in subject knowledge it's not even funny, which is WHY, MJ, I've been so quiet. I've stated this.) He told me either Crayon or Supermareo. Seeing as Supermareo was in jail, I chose to go after Crayon.

And, finally, I think the last thing y'all were wondering,

My role does suggest that I may become a very unhappy panda if Grunt dies.

I think that answers just about all the questions that were asked, and that's all my info out on the table, I think. Although I'm not sure I wanted to share all of it.

But it figured it was kind of necessary seeing how string happy MJD is DESPITE the fact that I mentioned I'd be happy to answer any questions, and to watch the votes, and the reasoning.

I don't know enough about MJD or his claim to place a vote, because I might be silly to do so. How sure are we that he's town?

Thank you - it makes perfect sense, and I've got no reason to disbelieve you. Also in your favour the "It's time" guy was on the same night as you and GruntMark were in the writeup, but in a different part. Regardless on the genders, it's unlikely to be you.

However, there is a theory that you have a better chance of winning if lynched now, rather than risking turning if Grunt gets it for some reason later, decreasing your chances of a win. That's not a theory I'm currently going to role with.

Light? Yeah, and L is his good guy conterpart.

He also likes to have things go just as planned.

I have no idea what you're talking about, but crayon does seem the most likely person to have been mucking around with the artifact. And he didn't admit it. So:

Change vote: crayon

If you are scum, then well played.

crayon
04-14-2010, 02:58 AM
The deathnote theory would definitely explain Waghlon's mysterious death, except that it leaves the glaring oversight for the fact that I was jailed that night. I wouldn't discount the possibility of Light being in the game (in fact it would be a perfect fit, given newdew's character), but the logistics of it being me isn't even possible, if you're going down that route.

eayragt
04-14-2010, 03:00 AM
The deathnote theory would definitely explain Waghlon's mysterious death, except that it leaves the glaring oversight for the fact that I was jailed that night. I wouldn't discount the possibility of Light being in the game (in fact it would be a perfect fit, given newdew's character), but the logistics of it being me isn't even possible, if you're going down that route.

As you'll know better than us - how does death note work? In real terms, not how it could work in this game. Counting anime as real.

crayon
04-14-2010, 03:14 AM
As you'll know better than us - how does death note work? In real terms, not how it could work in this game. Counting anime as real.

There's a notebook (obviously), Light then writes down the targets name in the book and optionally specifies a method of death, while keeping a picture of their face in his head (if he doesn't know what they look like it won't work). If there is no method specified or the method specified is not possible the target will die of a heart attack by default (would explain Waghlon).

Umm, the deathnote can be passed on to others.. it is linked to a specific "shinigami" who is the true owner of the note. Aside from that I can't think of anything. It has been a while since I read it.

And with that, I gotta go cook dinner for my partner. Be back in a couple of hours

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 06:59 AM
*yawn*

Ok so I got some sleep last night YAY.

Anyway, this whole talk about the death note has me curious.

We have 2 people in question.

I honestly am out of my league right now, so I have no clue about the death note or what it would do.

I must say that I am a bit shocked Crayon is still alive right now.

1. He has the most knowledge of the mod.
2. He has been playing like someone who has been in the game forever.

In my opinion as a scum killer Crayon with his knowledge would have been a night 2-4 kill. So with that being said I am unsure how the killers were/are playing it.

I don't believe the scum have NO kills because then it would be pretty much game over IMO.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 07:57 AM
Death Note.. Waghlon.. The Heart Attack


It makes sense.

Astil solved the game.


Yaya

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:00 AM
Death Note.. Waghlon.. The Heart Attack


It makes sense.

Astil solved the game.


Yaya

So who is the holder of the Death Note then?

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:02 AM
The deathnote theory would definitely explain Waghlon's mysterious death, except that it leaves the glaring oversight for the fact that I was jailed that night. I wouldn't discount the possibility of Light being in the game (in fact it would be a perfect fit, given newdew's character), but the logistics of it being me isn't even possible, if you're going down that route.

You're reading it wrong. Waghlon died after testing something himself

(writing his own name in the book)

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:03 AM
You're reading it wrong. Waghlon died after testing something himself

(writing his own name in the book)

N9 You went and got the book

N10 you were role blocked.

N 11 you tested it... on Jaded


Anything else?

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:08 AM
Anti, let me get this right.

You think Crayon has the book?

Do you think he is the last killer?

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:09 AM
Actually I'm wrong.

N8

"Its Time"

And Waghlon's written up working on an invention when he has a heart attack.


With the book, Crayon doesn't have to go out to kill, thus Trackers and Watchers arent a threat to him. Investigators might be though.

The book, the desk, a young man.

its Crayon


Vote Crayon

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:11 AM
Actually I'm wrong.

N8

"Its Time"

And Waghlon's written up working on an invention when he has a heart attack.


With the book, Crayon doesn't have to go out to kill, thus Trackers and Watchers arent a threat to him. Investigators might be though.

The book, the desk, a young man.

its Crayon


Vote Crayon


Would fit I suppose.
That makes 5 votes.

Do we want to finish this quickly or wait longer?

I can lay the 6th if you guys want to finish this quickly and hope someone puts the final vote soon.

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:13 AM
I come to quickly check in before going to be and what the -

First Waghlon has the book which I'm supposed to have, and then I get it from him. Next he doesn't have the book and I have it, yet I'm in JAIL (somehow I fail to see how Judge Dredd misses this), and then I target someone who's dead?

I'm not entirely sure where this logic is coming from at this stage

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:16 AM
Anti has been replying for a few minutes. I am sure he has plenty to say. :p

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:17 AM
Anti, let me get this right.

You think Crayon has the book?

Do you think he is the last killer?

You have to of seen the show.

Light is a very smart young man who gets sick at watching all the crime in the world and wicked people going un punished. He finds a book left by a Shinigami (death god) that, if you write the person's name while picturing their face, you can specify how and when that person dies.


He uses the book to stop crime, at first, but that isn't enough, he eventually wants to try to remake the world using his book to do it.

His main opponent on the show is L (Nedew), the world's greatest detective, whom light eventually manages to trick and kill. Eventually his scheme is figured out by others, and Light is killed by another Shinigami.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:18 AM
You have to of seen the show.

Light is a very smart young man who gets sick at watching all the crime in the world and wicked people going un punished. He finds a book left by a Shinigami (death god) that, if you write the person's name while picturing their face, you can specify how and when that person dies.


He uses the book to stop crime, at first, but that isn't enough, he eventually wants to try to remake the world using his book to do it.

His main opponent on the show is L (Nedew), the world's greatest detective, whom light eventually manages to trick and kill. Eventually his scheme is figured out by others, and Light is killed by another Shinigami.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note

So it is possible that he was using it for good in the beginning but along the way his win condition changed?

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:19 AM
I come to quickly check in before going to be and what the -

First Waghlon has the book which I'm supposed to have, and then I get it from him. Next he doesn't have the book and I have it, yet I'm in JAIL (somehow I fail to see how Judge Dredd misses this), and then I target someone who's dead?

I'm not entirely sure where this logic is coming from at this stage

And what would Jail mean to Light? On the Show you killed L while he was watching you for christ sake.

You're the anime guy and your gonna stand there and let your defense be that Jail would stop Light from killing?

hohoho

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:20 AM
So it is possible that he was using it for good in the beginning but along the way his win condition changed?

He didn't use it at all until half the player base was dead.

He probably could choose to kill scum or Townies.

That he's only killed a townie so far is the final indictment imho.

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:22 AM
He didn't use it at all until half the player base was dead.

He probably could choose to kill scum or Townies.

That he's only killed a townie so far is the final indictment imho.

Pretty interesting stuff.

I am going to have to glance at this show sounds interesting.

Ok so my next question is.............

Now or wait?

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:24 AM
And what would Jail mean to Light? On the Show you killed L while he was watching you for christ sake.

You're the anime guy and your gonna stand there and let your defense be that Jail would stop Light from killing?

hohoho

Uh, it was a shinigami which killed L. So not only do I have a deathnote at my disposal which I'm using to target dead people, I also have a shinigami to do my deads while I'm in jail? I'm all for rational discussion but you seem to have taken to Astil's point and are now throwing anything at the wall to see if it sticks

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:25 AM
I should apologize to Astil. He figured it out.

The Death note fits everything written so far, accounts for Waghlon's death and the description of an "unholy artifact"

L was in the game, so why not Light?

"Its time" after half the players are dead... yeah it all fits.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:34 AM
Uh, it was a shinigami which killed L. So not only do I have a deathnote at my disposal which I'm using to target dead people, I also have a shinigami to do my deads while I'm in jail? I'm all for rational discussion but you seem to have taken to Astil's point and are now throwing anything at the wall to see if it sticks

They allow books in Jail.

On the show Light doesn't even need the book to kill, just a scrap of paper he keeps hidden in his watch.

Thats all he needs to do the deed.

Is it your contention that when Judge Dread took you to jail he strip searched you? Maybe did an anal cavity search?

You're trying to present jail as being literal. Like your character had to change into an orange jumpsuit and all that.

I'm saying, for the game, Jail keeps some people from targetting you and keeps you from going out.

WITH THE DEATH NOTE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO KILL ANYWAY


No CRayon this aint personal or nothing. Actually, getting yourself jailed on the night you could start using the book, that was a 'Light'-ish thing to do. You played very well and have nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, you outlasted everyone else.

I'll note this as well though, you arent even denying being Light...

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:37 AM
On the show Light doesn't even need the book to kill, just a scrap of paper he keeps hidden in his watch.

*slow clap*

Do you realize what you've just done Greyson? You have just damned society all to hell.

Damn you all! Damn all you of you fools who would continue to live in this scum filled world! You're the reason why Mafia continue to pop up in new threads every week!

If you had let me be your god we could have ended all crime for good.

Ah well...

DAY KILL:

Antithesis is Nightwing - DIE
Astil is Master Roshi - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Huntress - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Oracle - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Black Canary - DIE
Wallbanger is Wonder Woman - DIE
mdjgoldeneye is Super Mario - DIE
Bak42 is Toushirou Hitsugaya - DIE
BHK1978 is Scarlet Witch - DIE

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eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:39 AM
*slow clap*

Do you realize what you've just done Greyson? You have just damned society all to hell.

Damn you all! Damn all you of you fools who would continue to live in this scum filled world! You're the reason why Mafia continue to pop up in new threads every week!

If you had let me be your god we could have ended all crime for good.

Ah well...

DAY KILL:

Antithesis is Nightwing - DIE
Astil is Master Roshi - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Huntress - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Oracle - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Black Canary - DIE
Wallbanger is Wonder Woman - DIE
mdjgoldeneye is Super Mario - DIE
Bak42 is Toushirou Hitsugaya - DIE
BHK1978 is Scarlet Witch - DIE


It's good that although I'm 98% fine with moon_lit_tears, I'm not the only one who can't name her character in one shot.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:40 AM
*slow clap*

Do you realize what you've just done Greyson? You have just damned society all to hell.

Damn you all! Damn all you of you fools who would continue to live in this scum filled world! You're the reason why Mafia continue to pop up in new threads every week!

If you had let me be your god we could have ended all crime for good.

Ah well...

DAY KILL:

Antithesis is Nightwing - DIE
Astil is Master Roshi - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Huntress - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Oracle - DIE
Moon Lit Tears is Black Canary - DIE
Wallbanger is Wonder Woman - DIE
mdjgoldeneye is Super Mario - DIE
Bak42 is Toushirou Hitsugaya - DIE
BHK1978 is Scarlet Witch - DIE

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Guess it was a good idea to keep MLT's identity a secret. :D

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:41 AM
It's good that although I'm 98% fine with moon_lit_tears, I'm not the only one who can't name her character in one shot.



MWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :)


Guess I can do this now?

VOTE crayon ... :D

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:41 AM
Guess it was a good idea to keep MLT's identity a secret. :D

Ah I would have got her. She's a member of the Birds of Prey garaunteed, if I had the mod on hand she'd be done too :)

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:43 AM
Well, would suck to technically lose to what would be the most overpowered ability in mafia history...

I must say it would be kind of cool as well. :D

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:44 AM
And the funny thing about it all, is that I had most of everyone's identities locked down before the claim fest started

eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:46 AM
Well, would suck to technically lose to what would be the most overpowered ability in mafia history...

I must say it would be kind of cool as well. :D

It's a cool SK. We should still win, so not overpowered. The clues were there.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:47 AM
And the funny thing about it all, is that I had most of everyone's identities locked down before the claim fest started

Well, you did make the mod, and are, despite being new at this, a very, very good player

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:47 AM
And the funny thing about it all, is that I had most of everyone's identities locked down before the claim fest started


I don't think anyone but a select few can figure out who I was.

I actually put a hint out for Astil earlier in the game and he missed and KEPT pressuring me. :(

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:49 AM
It's a cool SK. We should still win, so not overpowered. The clues were there.

Well if I am dead, before its official.

Don't assume he can't use it again tonight. Do what ya can to stop him. Be ready to vote quickly at the end of the night phase, in case he could do the whole day kill thing again

eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:50 AM
Well, you did make the mod, and are, despite being new at this, a very, very good player

I will agree with the latter part of that. It's been exceptionally well played.

Just glad he ahsn't been drawing Grunt's face recently. That could have been problematic.

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:50 AM
Well if I am dead, before its official.

Don't assume he can't use it again tonight. Do what ya can to stop him. Be ready to vote quickly at the end of the night phase, in case he could do the whole day kill thing again

Wait what?

eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:53 AM
Well if I am dead, before its official.

Don't assume he can't use it again tonight. Do what ya can to stop him. Be ready to vote quickly at the end of the night phase, in case he could do the whole day kill thing again

I guess without claim fest he still wouldn't have won. But you're right, if he can kill every day (and daykills end the day, which I assume they do), we're stuffed (unless he sleeps in).

Hopefully not.

eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:53 AM
Wait what?

If he can draw someone's face tonight and kill them tomorrow, and day kills end the day, we've lost.

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:54 AM
If he can draw someone's face tonight and kill them tomorrow, and day kills end the day, we've lost.


So him doing that day kill thing ended the day?


Does that count if he doesn't put my name right? :D

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:54 AM
Wait what?

In Death Note, Light could kill anyone in the world. Just needed their name and a picture of their face.

It could be a joke, but, its entirely possible that what Crayon just did is legit.

No worries though, look at all those kill spots he wasted trying to off you. :D

That alone probably will still win us teh game, if what he's doing is legit.

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 08:55 AM
In Death Note, Light could kill anyone in the world. Just needed their name and a picture of their face.

It could be a joke, but, its entirely possible that what Crayon just did is legit.

No worries though, look at all those kill spots he wasted trying to off you. :D

That alone probably will still win us teh game, if what he's doing is legit.


Well if we can get the last vote on. I don't think DWW would count him trying 3 guesses at my name (if he even got it right) :D

So get that last vote on and see what happens.

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:56 AM
May as well let you in on it now as well, I had the deathnote from the very start of the game and could have used it the first night I took over from hmm, Sean McFly was it?

In a way I'm pretty bummed with the outcome. Not the winning or losing, moreso with myself, though. I feel as though I played it pretty smart, or at least as smart as I could (last night's action being the only slip-up.. I risked incorrectly targeting myself, in the hopes that the writeup might shine the light in another direction, such as a failed attack on me), but ultimately that also meant playing pretty damn boring.

It's kind of like having a Ferrarri, but not being able to push it beyond 20mph, for fear that the Astil and Waghlon Ferrarri Police are just around the corner, ready to go "OMG DEATHNOTE, LET'S LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO STAY INSIDE".

If I hadn't have worried about that I would have been caught earlier, but I'm also sure I would have given you guys a more interesting game. Ah well.

For the record, tonight, before Astil made the connection he would have been killed if I was jailed. If I was lassoed instead it would have been Integra (I had a hunch that Alucard might go rogue if Integra died, before Pet actually mentioned it)

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:56 AM
I guess without claim fest he still wouldn't have won. But you're right, if he can kill every day (and daykills end the day, which I assume they do), we're stuffed (unless he sleeps in).

Hopefully not.

I would think not, because, how the hell could you win otherwise?


Gotta be some limits on it. Otehrwise no one could win

And given how dark things were concerning this whole deal up until last night, obviously the mods were looking out for him.

crayon
04-14-2010, 08:56 AM
Well if we can get the last vote on. I don't think DWW would count him trying 3 guesses at my name (if he even got it right) :D

So get that last vote on and see what happens.

I only got Waghlon's name right after the second guess ;)

eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:57 AM
In Death Note, Light could kill anyone in the world. Just needed their name and a picture of their face.

It could be a joke, but, its entirely possible that what Crayon just did is legit.

No worries though, look at all those kill spots he wasted trying to off you. :D

That alone probably will still win us teh game, if what he's doing is legit.

I believe it. He's the SK. It's not overpowered if the day kill is a one off... or at least can't be done every day. And if it's not... well, it's certainly encouragement not to mass claim.

Fortunately crayon did have issues working some of us out.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 08:59 AM
May as well let you in on it now as well, I had the deathnote from the very start of the game and could have used it the first night I took over from hmm, Sean McFly was it?

In a way I'm pretty bummed with the outcome. Not the winning or losing, moreso with myself, though. I feel as though I played it pretty smart, or at least as smart as I could (last night's action being the only slip-up.. I risked incorrectly targeting myself, in the hopes that the writeup might shine the light in another direction, such as a failed attack on me), but ultimately that also meant playing pretty damn boring.

It's kind of like having a Ferrarri, but not being able to push it beyond 20mph, for fear that the Astil and Waghlon Ferrarri Police are just around the corner, ready to go "OMG DEATHNOTE, LET'S LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO STAY INSIDE".

If I hadn't have worried about that I would have been caught earlier, but I'm also sure I would have given you guys a more interesting game. Ah well.

For the record, tonight, before Astil made the connection he would have been killed if I was jailed. If I was lassoed instead it would have been Integra (I had a hunch that Alucard might go rogue if Integra died, before Pet actually mentioned it)

Was MH, as a possible Investigator, a threat to you? Thus the mislynch?

eayragt
04-14-2010, 08:59 AM
I would think not, because, how the hell could you win otherwise?


Gotta be some limits on it. Otehrwise no one could win

And given how dark things were concerning this whole deal up until last night, obviously the mods were looking out for him.

There are limits - he needs a character.

Of course, we've all given them to him :o.

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 09:00 AM
There are limits - he needs a character.

Of course, we've all given them to him :o.

No.

Where the hell is Banger so he can vote and see what happens?

eayragt
04-14-2010, 09:00 AM
Was MH, as a possible Investigator, a threat to you? Thus the mislynch?

Although I wasn't in on that lynch, it was a great opportunity for a mislynch. We're not going after crayon because of that, so he just about got away with it.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 09:01 AM
There are limits - he needs a character.

Of course, we've all given them to him :o.

No there are otehr limits.

If all he needed was the character, we'd all be dead, except for Jaded... :D

crayon
04-14-2010, 09:02 AM
Was MH, as a possible Investigator, a threat to you? Thus the mislynch?

THIS ****ing fact annoys me the most. I show up as town to any investigation (I'm a brilliant student after all), yet no one got around to testing it out! At least no one who was still alive to bring it up :P

I honestly did believe MH was scum. Hell I still think he's scum :)

eayragt
04-14-2010, 09:02 AM
No.

Where the hell is Banger so he can vote and see what happens?

Yeah, well, he doesn't need to kill you. Just everyone else. Especially if pet agreed to work with him after Grunts death.

However, crayons reveal tends to suggest this may be a one off.

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 09:06 AM
I believe it. He's the SK. It's not overpowered if the day kill is a one off... or at least can't be done every day. And if it's not... well, it's certainly encouragement not to mass claim.

Fortunately crayon did have issues working some of us out.

Killing that many people at once has never been done in any mafia game to my knowledge.

In that respect, it certainly is over powered.

I kind of hope its legit, if so I salute DWW and Rev for pulling it off.

That said, just a little blurb after we had killed off the AA's and DA's probably would have saved us two phases and changed the outcome of the game.

Thats a mod choice there and all. It may count as a loss, but I did what the town has to do to win, which is find all the scum. In that regard, I consider it a win.

crayon
04-14-2010, 09:07 AM
Yeah, well, he doesn't need to kill you. Just everyone else. Especially if pet agreed to work with him after Grunts death.

However, crayons reveal tends to suggest this may be a one off.

For the record you guys didn't need to give me any claims.. I had my own network of sources which got me all the information needed. Eayragt is a bibliophile, Antithesis is the Gaurdian of Bludhaven, MLT is a Bird of Prey etc etc.

I had originally pegged you as Yoko Readman from Read Or Die.. and simply by way of chance I was watching another anime series which had a character who was a rip-off of Yuki Nagato and was like "ohhhh, snap"

crayon
04-14-2010, 09:08 AM
For the record you guys didn't need to give me any claims.. I had my own network of sources which got me all the information needed. Eayragt is a bibliophile, Antithesis is the Gaurdian of Bludhaven, MLT is a Bird of Prey etc etc.

I had originally pegged you as Yoko Readman from Read Or Die.. and simply by way of chance I was watching another anime series which had a character who was a rip-off of Yuki Nagato and was like "ohhhh, snap"

Not sure why I chose that quote by Eayragt up there for my response. Brain freeze

GruntMark
04-14-2010, 09:13 AM
I don't know what's happening or who is winning.

But you killed MJD.

So I'm happy. :p

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 09:14 AM
Eitehr way, I'm happy.

Nobody can come along and say "haha, you clearly should have expected the largest mass killing during the day once you started pressuring...."

And, being dead, I can't be blamed for what happens after that. :D

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 09:15 AM
Eitehr way, I'm happy.

Nobody can come along and say "haha, you clearly should have expected the largest mass killing during the day once you started pressuring...."

And, being dead, I can't be blamed for what happens after that. :D


I will be upset if this is actually gonna end this way.

My poor win percentage DAMN YOU CRAYON!!!!!!!!!

:(

crayon
04-14-2010, 09:16 AM
Also if Petrija hadn't have botched her healing from SM the night mdj went into Mega Mushroom mode, Astil would have been lying in a pool of his own drool the next night.

Looks like more people knew about Deathnote than I thought, but it may have bought me a little more time. Perhaps not, since Anti wasn't marked for death for a while. Figured it'd be more believable to take out Judge Dredd first since his death might have proved that jailing was something the killer feared.

crayon
04-14-2010, 09:19 AM
Anyway, I should really go to bed for reals, since I guess d_w_w won't be around for a while. Unless you got any day vigs about, enjoy death, suckers (maybe you'll all die, maybe there's a cut-off, you'll have to wait to find out ;)).

Not sure what happens from here, but to those about to die, I salute you and good game.

moon_lit_tears
04-14-2010, 09:21 AM
Anyway, I should really go to bed for reals, since I guess d_w_w won't be around for a while. Unless you got any day vigs about, enjoy death, suckers (maybe you'll all die, maybe there's a cut-off, you'll have to wait to find out ;)).

Not sure what happens from here, but to those about to die, I salute you and good game.

For the record I have not been keen on you for most of the game. I have said just about EVERY phase I don't think you are town. :(

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 09:22 AM
Also if Petrija hadn't have botched her healing from SM the night mdj went into Mega Mushroom mode, Astil would have been lying in a pool of his own drool the next night.

Looks like more people knew about Deathnote than I thought, but it may have bought me a little more time. Perhaps not, since Anti wasn't marked for death for a while. Figured it'd be more believable to take out Judge Dredd first since his death might have proved that jailing was something the killer feared.

I won't say I knew you were scum, but if I could get past Jaded and the "urn" /Unholy Artifact deal tripping in my head... Since we couldn't ask Jaded anyway, I figured you'd be the next viable lynch and then go from there, because you were male, claimed to not go out at night early in the game, the desk/worshop deal.

Once Astil brought up the deathnote though, I did know it was you. Little good that did me. :D

crayon
04-14-2010, 09:31 AM
For the record I have not been keen on you for most of the game. I have said just about EVERY phase I don't think you are town. :(

Funnily enough I was practically playing as town right up till the end (Waghlon aside). I agree that it was weird that I wasn't fixed for a Mafia kill, and figuring that I would be a prime candidate either before or after the strong players were killed I decided that it'd be in my best interest to get the scum factions thinned out first.

I also knew SM was the bomb and tried to steer direction from him as best as I could (although that was mainly because he didn't need to die for me to win), which didn't work one iota :P

So yeah, if you get those funny feelings about me in another game, keep in mind that it means I probably am town... unless I'm a SK again :P

And yeah, seriously bed time, sheesh you guys

Antithesis
04-14-2010, 09:32 AM
Until a mod makes it official, everyone should put their votes down on Crayon...

Just saying. Everyone and their mother knew that scum had the first Star Wars game won... until they didn't. :D

petrija
04-14-2010, 09:34 AM
Vote: Crayon

That's some crazy ****.