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moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 06:06 PM
I don't know. I woud like to hear from the quiet folks too.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 06:09 PM
*Sigh* I've kinda hoped you guys would get it without me having to tell you outright, but I don't guess there's too much harm in it..
Night 5
MichiganHero has been silenced and will be unable to post until Nightfall.
[B]Night 6
MichiganHero has been silenced and will be unable to post until Nightfall.
Right. MichiganHero, silenced two nights in a row. Does that not seem like an odd choice? I mean, no disrespect intended to MH, I think he's pretty good for a beginner, but why him, two nights in a row? Why not keep SF from giving out his lists? Why not keep people like Arrows or MLT from giving their insight? It seems like an odd choice, unless you consider one thing..
He's the Leftie. I've figured that, for a while now - ever since he said this;
Petrija, is the second word in your role the word "right"?
..and, indeed, it is. Why ask this, specifically? Why not just ask which one she is? He asked this, for a very simple reason - he's the Leftie. When MLT told him she stalled, MH responded with this;
I'll wait.
Eager to hear her answer, it would seem. And in his next post..
I do believe that the body part Pet is claiming is in the game.
Well, of course he would. :p
As soon as I saw this N5, I got the idea that they wanted Pet to stay a suspect, and keep MH from clarifying the fact that the testes are, indeed, in the game. And the fact that they silence him again, N6, shows that further.
The Two
05-25-2010, 06:15 PM
It is now Day Phase 7. With 12 players remaining, it is 7 votes to lynch.
You have until 5pm BST / 12 Noon EDT on Thursday, May 27th to reach a majority. If a lynch is not achieved, a No Lynch will be declared.
Wallbanger (4):ShadowedFlames, Petrija, Zeel1, Jman2k3
Crychon
05-25-2010, 06:16 PM
Destiny, Jman, Bak, Crychon.
Oh, you mean like Crychon?
Maybe he's Leftie Loosey. :p
So could Arrows, for that matter. Now THAT would be funny, if Arrows was Leftie and Pet was Rightie.
I know you're still not completely sold on the Testes Twins -- but it would still be funny. :D
I ain't lefty, I'm in the top half of the body.
Yes there is.
What else has happened two nights in a row?
I've had the same target the past two nights.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 06:18 PM
I've had the same target the past two nights.
..Considering my theories on Pet and MH, that's kind of interesting.. :p
petrija
05-25-2010, 06:18 PM
...I figured he was the left. Didn't catch the double silencing though.
Crychon
05-25-2010, 06:22 PM
Oh, quoted the first one because... I'm on another list? Really?
Destiny
05-25-2010, 06:38 PM
I now feel very silly for not immediately establishing that MichiganHero is the left testicle.
petrija
05-25-2010, 06:42 PM
I now feel very silly for not immediately establishing that MichiganHero is the left testicle.
Could it be due to lack of concentration on the thread, due to... being scum!?!
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 06:44 PM
Could it be due to lack of concentration on the thread, due to... being scum!?!
I just chalked it up to people not caring about what rookies have to say. You should all feel ashamed! :p
petrija
05-25-2010, 06:46 PM
I obviously caught him asking if I was right, but I figured that could have been or a different reason, cause I really, really can't figure out an ability for the left.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 06:48 PM
I obviously caught him asking if I was right, but I figured that could have been or a different reason, cause I really, really can't figure out an ability for the left.
Well, he has claimed an ability, but..I'm not really sure how it fits with being a leftie.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 07:14 PM
I just chalked it up to people not caring about what rookies have to say. You should all feel ashamed! :p
You can chulk it up to the fact I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Destiny
05-25-2010, 07:17 PM
As far as I can see, the only way I could imagine petrija and MichiganHero lying is if they are actually in a scum group together.
petrija
05-25-2010, 07:19 PM
As far as I can see, the only way I could imagine petrija and MichiganHero lying is if they are actually in a scum group together.
That would be kind of dangerous.
If one of us were to die and come up scum, the other would obviously be scum, right?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 07:20 PM
I see what Zeel is saying. I was just not sure before. My only problem is MH could have said something during the night but did not.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 07:20 PM
You can chulk it up to the fact I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Of course you're not.
Myself, I strongly believe that MH is, atleast, claiming the left teste. And I also have strongly believed him to be town ever since Kobe got lynched, so I doubt they're scum together.
Destiny
05-25-2010, 07:26 PM
That would be kind of dangerous.
If one of us were to die and come up scum, the other would obviously be scum, right?
Not at all. In fact, it would be more likely that you were opposing roles, with each needing to kill the other.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 07:28 PM
Not at all. In fact, it would be more likely that you were opposing roles, with each needing to kill the other.
Dueling balls..?
.......mother of God.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 07:33 PM
Well, he has claimed an ability, but..I'm not really sure how it fits with being a leftie.
One thing I'll point out -- the rationale for each body part's ability has been pretty well thought out and, for lack of a better term, "anatomically correct". This was why Kobe's and m-ded's claims seemed weak, in my mind. So when I look at what the primary function of Jack's Rocky Mountain Oysters are supposed to be, I find myself wondering what abilities can and should line up to them. Then I look at those at whom we no neither part nor ability and wonder why that is - certainly not for lack of material to claim.
Even my role makes sense from a medical standpoint, and introduces that 'Osmosis Jones' vibe that we caught onto early on.
Destiny
05-25-2010, 07:34 PM
It may sound fairly comedic, but the possibility is there. There have been plenty of instances of Yin/Yan type roles.
Crychon
05-25-2010, 07:34 PM
Not at all. In fact, it would be more likely that you were opposing roles, with each needing to kill the other.
I'm not sure you understand how the male reproductive system works, but that's not it.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 07:34 PM
Dueling balls..?
.......mother of God.
Actually mother would have little to do with it. :p
Destiny
05-25-2010, 07:35 PM
I suppose that this might not be very likely, but it's a theory. This isn't a normal game.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 07:47 PM
God I am so conflicted.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 07:48 PM
One thing I'll point out -- the rationale for each body part's ability has been pretty well thought out and, for lack of a better term, "anatomically correct". This was why Kobe's and m-ded's claims seemed weak, in my mind. So when I look at what the primary function of Jack's Rocky Mountain Oysters are supposed to be, I find myself wondering what abilities can and should line up to them. Then I look at those at whom we no neither part nor ability and wonder why that is - certainly not for lack of material to claim.
Even my role makes sense from a medical standpoint, and introduces that 'Osmosis Jones' vibe that we caught onto early on.
Perhaps. But the thing is, I can't see MH's ability working with any bodypart. But the same goes for some other, more standard abilities. For example, what body part would be bulletproof? None of them are invincible, they all break, they all die. But I'd like to think we have one out there. What body part would take someone down with them? None of them really seem like they'd do that, yet we have a claimed bomb.
Hell, what bodypart would be a Forensics Investigator..? None really spring to my mind, but we know we have one.
As for my ability, it makes sense that I could roleblock bodyparts..not so much viruses and the like, though. I mean, think about it, why would I be able to roleblock you? You're a damned syringe.. :p
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 07:51 PM
Sorry to say but I don't buy it. My role/ability meh.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 07:53 PM
God I am so conflicted.
Why? Why are you conflicted?
Sugar, I know you've said a few times that you aren't sure about the Wallbanger lynch..but why not? Why aren't you sure?
How much evidence do you really need? I've blocked him twice on nights where no one died, he's been on two FI lists, part of the reason he wasn't lynched last day phase was due to what turned out to be a mistake by the heart, his only post in the last day phase was one in which he claimed a lynchbait miller..
Why are you conflicted? What about him says anything, other than scum?
You know, sweetie, in SW3, his response to pressure was "Come on, guys..you want to press me? That's dumb, come on.."
That was somehow enough for you to immediately take your vote off. And of course, he turned up scum then, immediately making you look awful. I urge you not to fall into the same trap this game. I get that he's your friend, but you can't allow yourself to be so easy to manipulate..it's bad for you.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 08:16 PM
I get that he's your friend, but you can't allow yourself to be so easy to manipulate..it's bad for you.
Making sure Jack gets his RDA of iron(y) there?
I mean seriously, you're selectively critical of coincidences, you catch someone in a lie and then let it go with a simple 'my bad there', you use your guile to butter someone up then tell them they shouldn't be so easily manipulated?
Good thing you're already cleared, right buddy?
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 08:18 PM
Making sure Jack gets his RDA of iron(y) there?
I mean seriously, you're selectively critical of coincidences, you catch someone in a lie and then let it go with a simple 'my bad there', you use your guile to butter someone up then tell them they shouldn't be so easily manipulated?
Good thing you're already cleared, right buddy?
I have no idea what you're talking about..I've always seen coincidences as unlikely, when the hell have I let a lie go, and when I buttered up anybody?
Let her answer. I want to know what's conflicting about this situation.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 08:19 PM
I'm starting to get some strong vibes of E-ville at this point. If you aren't familiar with it, go back and read.
bak42
05-25-2010, 08:34 PM
I just chalked it up to people not caring about what rookies have to say. You should all feel ashamed! :p
I know I do. Here I was earlier on complaining about people not picking up my subtle hints and here I fail to pick up on one that's not nearly as subtle as mine were.:o
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 08:36 PM
0Why?
I have asked this already and no one has answered me.
Do you think Bossman is Cancer or red?
It has nothing to do with him being my friend.
My gut tells me he isn't scum. I don't know why I can't explain it. Well I know how I can but I want to know what everyone thinks right now.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 08:37 PM
0Why?
I have asked this already and no one has answered me.
Do you think Bossman is Cancer or red?
It has nothing to do with him being my friend.
My gut tells me he isn't scum. I don't know why I can't explain it. Well I know how I can but I want to know what everyone thinks right now.
I'm thinking red, but that's mostly a hunch.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 08:40 PM
I'm thinking red, but that's mostly a hunch.
If he were red...why throw M-ded under the bus?
There was no question about M-ded Till he put a vote on him. I started asking questions because of the vote.
Why do that?
That is what has me in a strangle hold at the moment.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 08:44 PM
If he were red...why throw M-ded under the bus?
There was no question about M-ded Till he put a vote on him. I started asking questions because of the vote.
Why do that?
That is what has me in a strangle hold at the moment.
He wasn't the first to point Mded's way, hell I did it just a while beforehand. It's possible they went that way, thinking Mded could save himself, just hoping to survive. Or maybe Banger thought for sure he'd be lynched, due to all the evidence, so he voted Mded's way to make him look better.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 08:48 PM
He wasn't the first to point Mded's way, hell I did it just a while beforehand. It's possible they went that way, thinking Mded could save himself, just hoping to survive. Or maybe Banger thought for sure he'd be lynched, due to all the evidence, so he voted Mded's way to make him look better.
When I say a while, I mean an earlier phase.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 08:49 PM
Why? Why do that? If he is red scum and I was M-ded I'd be pissed. I'd like to think they are both better players than that.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 08:52 PM
Why? Why do that? If he is red scum and I was M-ded I'd be pissed. I'd like to think they are both better players than that.
Maybe he didn't expect him to be lynched. It's not like he pushed particularly hard. He just said "This guy hasn't been talking much, let's look his way", voted, and then said nothing the rest of the phase. Frankly, the second I saw their weren't any deaths that night, I had very little doubt in my mind that WB was the killer, and that he was going to be lynched. And if you're in that situation, why not make a partner look better by voting on them?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 08:57 PM
Maybe he didn't expect him to be lynched. It's not like he pushed particularly hard. He just said "This guy hasn't been talking much, let's look his way", voted, and then said nothing the rest of the phase. Frankly, the second I saw their weren't any deaths that night, I had very little doubt in my mind that WB was the killer, and that he was going to be lynched. And if you're in that situation, why not make a partner look better by voting on them?
If he comes up scum it will look bad on me. I just don't think he's red.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 08:58 PM
I will lay a vote if needed because I don't believe a no lynch does us any good, but I won't like it. :(
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 08:58 PM
If he comes up scum it will look bad on me. I just don't think he's red.
Okay, let's try this..
Any idea why their were no kills N5?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:00 PM
Okay, let's try this..
Any idea why their were no kills N5?
There could be a number of reasons.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:01 PM
There could be a number of reasons.
Yes there are.
Which do you think is the cause?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:05 PM
Yes there are.
Which do you think is the cause?
Could be that you are the killer. Wouldn't be a bad trick to use.
Could be that The killers target was protected, and now they assume you would roleblock Bossman again and not kill.
could be ... either or neither. I don't know.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:09 PM
Well I'm fairly certain it's not the first possibility.. :p
As for the second..so then, that would mean me blocking Banger that night was simply a really big coincidence? I just don't know how willing I am to believe that. It just doesn't seem likely. Nevermind the fact that he's on two FI lists..how unlucky can one guy be?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:12 PM
Well I'm fairly certain it's not the first possibility.. :p
As for the second..so then, that would mean me blocking Banger that night was simply a really big coincidence? I just don't know how willing I am to believe that. It just doesn't seem likely. Nevermind the fact that he's on two FI lists..how unlucky can one guy be?
Considering the numbers...It's possible. Not saying he isn't scum. I just don't know.
Like I said I will lay the final vote if needed.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:13 PM
Bossman you still around?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:18 PM
Well I'm going to take a shower.
@Bossman if you are still here. What do you think of the remaining players?
Well folks I will think about this. I will be back in about an hour. MAybe..
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:18 PM
Why? Why do that? If he is red scum and I was M-ded I'd be pissed. I'd like to think they are both better players than that.
Why would you be pissed? If they're on the same team and 'Banger voted for him to make himself look better when masterded was already probably going down, then I see absolutely no reason why m-ded should be mad at all, that's something the scum does every single game.
If he comes up scum it will look bad on me. I just don't think he's red.
He may or may not be red, but I think he's scum.
Well I'm fairly certain it's not the first possibility.. :p
As for the second..so then, that would mean me blocking Banger that night was simply a really big coincidence? I just don't know how willing I am to believe that. It just doesn't seem likely. Nevermind the fact that he's on two FI lists..how unlucky can one guy be?
I don't think he's that unlucky, and I really don't buy the flu vaccine claim, so:
Vote: Wallbanger
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:27 PM
Well I'm fairly certain it's not the first possibility.. :p
As for the second..so then, that would mean me blocking Banger that night was simply a really big coincidence? I just don't know how willing I am to believe that. It just doesn't seem likely. Nevermind the fact that he's on two FI lists..how unlucky can one guy be?
To the first part, of course you're going to say that, regardless of whether you're still Jack-aligned or went cancerous.
To the second part, the odds are not that long. 1 in 16 at the very worst.
See, there was NO suspicion on me, until YOU announced in twilight that you'd roleblocked me. And if you just happened to know that there wouldn't be a kill for some odd reason, well, gee, instant suspicion.
THEN you make what I would consider a boneheaded town move and announce your intention to roleblock me ahead of time, which has already been discussed as invalidating a test because it allows scum to respond, or set up the scene again. I didn't do anything last night, because I didn't want to take the chance of wasting my last shot.
Think about it...where has cancer been for the last 10 phases? Then think about what derek did in E-ville. There's a tentacle waiting for us out there, wanting to clear the field as much as possible before making a move. I'm at the point where I don't trust anyone anymore.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Why would you be pissed? If they're on the same team and 'Banger voted for him to make himself look better when masterded was already probably going down, then I see absolutely no reason why m-ded should be mad at all, that's something the scum does every single game.
He may or may not be red, but I think he's scum.
I don't think he's that unlucky, and I really don't buy the flu vaccine claim, so:
Vote: Wallbanger
Remind us what it is you do again?
Oh, yeah, that's right. We don't know what you do.
We're getting played, folks.
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:32 PM
Bossman, could you be a dear and answer this?
I have no idea what you're talking about..I've always seen coincidences as unlikely, when the hell have I let a lie go, and when have I buttered up anybody?
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:39 PM
Remind us what it is you do again?
Oh, yeah, that's right. We don't know what you do.
We're getting played, folks.
You know what you claim you do? That.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:39 PM
Ok just got out of the shower. I WAS going to eat my dinner I picked up on the way home *drools at sum* But it will wait I suppose.
To the first part, of course you're going to say that, regardless of whether you're still Jack-aligned or went cancerous.
To the second part, the odds are not that long. 1 in 16 at the very worst.
See, there was NO suspicion on me, until YOU announced in twilight that you'd roleblocked me. And if you just happened to know that there wouldn't be a kill for some odd reason, well, gee, instant suspicion.
THEN you make what I would consider a boneheaded town move and announce your intention to roleblock me ahead of time, which has already been discussed as invalidating a test because it allows scum to respond, or set up the scene again. I didn't do anything last night, because I didn't want to take the chance of wasting my last shot.
Think about it...where has cancer been for the last 10 phases? Then think about what derek did in E-ville. There's a tentacle waiting for us out there, wanting to clear the field as much as possible before making a move. I'm at the point where I don't trust anyone anymore.
This was my thought as well. Wonna take a guess who I think is running the show? Maybe someone who has been quite quiet the past few phases?
Bossman, could you be a dear and answer this?
Damnit stop coping me.
Anyway folks....look at the number to lynch and how many votes we have?
Am I the only person finding it odd that WE ARE ALMOST READY TO LYNCH WITHIN 12 HOURS?
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
Remind us what it is you do again?
Oh, yeah, that's right. We don't know what you do.
We're getting played, folks.
It's true, we know little about him. And seeing as he/SO acted fairly townie, in my view, early on, before falling off, tells me him being recruited makes sense..of course, it's not like he was going to play exactly like SO was, but still. I agree, he'd be a good choice to look into later.
Still, I feel like you're going to be a distraction to us until we get rid of you..
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
Bossman, could you be a dear and answer this?
In reverse order --
You're buttering up MLT.
You took Rev's walkback of his N4 result at face value. He lied at least once, and you ignored it.
And you gave Rev crap about his theories earlier as coincidences when they implicated you, but were less concerned about it when the coincidence made it easier for you to sell your story.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:43 PM
You know what you claim you do? That.
Who have you targeted?
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:44 PM
You know I'm glad you guys think I have no mind of my own...
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:45 PM
You know what you claim you do? That.
Really?
Considering the WHITE BLOOD CELLS are the body's immune system, I ain't buying that.
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:46 PM
Who have you targeted?
SO's targets:
1 - Destiny
2 - MichiganHero
3 - None (Went inactive)
My targets:
4 - Imarevenant
5 - ShadowedFlames
6 - ShadowedFlames
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:47 PM
Really?
Considering the WHITE BLOOD CELLS are the body's immune system, I ain't buying that.
Do you remember who my avatar was last day phase?
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:47 PM
In reverse order --
You're buttering up MLT.
You took Rev's walkback of his N4 result at face value. He lied at least once, and you ignored it.
And you gave Rev crap about his theories earlier as coincidences when they implicated you, but were less concerned about it when the coincidence made it easier for you to sell your story.
Buttering her up? So I sweet talk her all the time..I don't do it to try to manipulate her. I sweet talked her when we were DC-aligned too, you think I was trying to mess with her head then?
Well excuse me for trusting someone that claims the heart. But you're right, I haven't exactly adopted the distrust everybody motto. Typically I'm 50/50 on people until they give me reason to be otherwise. When someone claims something like that, I'm much more willing to take it at face value. Maybe I shouldn't. Maybe I should atleast consider it being a town bluff when someone with such a strong claim backtracks like that.
And there's a differance between me and BHK being silenced on the same night as a coincidence, and me blocking you on a night without kills as a coincidence. I think the second one is the bigger one, myself. Maybe it's just me.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:47 PM
You know I'm glad you guys think I have no mind of my own...
I don't think anyone's doing that, honestly. We're all just playing the game here. :)
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Do you remember who my avatar was last day phase?
Don't even know who it was. And no one would ever use an avatar change as a ruse, or choose one ambiguous enough to allow for multiple interpretations, right?
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Don't even know who it was. And no one would ever use an avatar change as a ruse, or choose one ambiguous enough to allow for multiple interpretations, right?
Speaking of which, did people think you were claiming Jailkeeper when you got your current avatar? :p
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:53 PM
Don't even know who it was. And no one would ever use an avatar change as a ruse, or choose one ambiguous enough to allow for multiple interpretations, right?
Ok, well, it was Jack Sparrow. I am what is most likely his most damaged organ.
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:53 PM
Ok, well, it was Jack Sparrow. I am what is most likely his most damaged organ.
I only say most likely, because his brain's most likely pretty damaged too, and I'm not that.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:54 PM
Speaking of which, did people think you were claiming Jailkeeper when you got your current avatar? :p
Thing is I'm stuck with this one forever and ever now. :p
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 09:54 PM
Ok, well, it was Jack Sparrow. I am what is most likely his most damaged organ.
Last time Jack Sparrow was in a game he was recruited, you know. ;)
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:55 PM
I only say most likely, because his brain's most likely pretty damaged too, and I'm not that.
So what are you claiming?
Thing is I'm stuck with this one forever and ever now. :p
All because of lil ole me. :D :p
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 09:55 PM
Ok, well, it was Jack Sparrow. I am what is most likely his most damaged organ.
...Hm. Well, looking at what I think you're saying, I..guess I can see it working that way. Not fully sure, but I could see it..
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:57 PM
Might as well just come out and say it, was trying to have a bit of fun with the hinting:
You are Jack’s Liver, Jack Aligned Hepatic Organ
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 09:57 PM
01. Arrows
02. Bak42
04. Destiny
07. Imarevenant
08. Jman2k3
12. MichiganHero
15. Moon Lit Tears
16. Petrija
17. ShadowedFlames
19. Crychon
21. Wallbanger
22. Zeel1
Anyone wonna tell me why we have 12 players and 4 of us are major in the game
2. are semi active
1. Even less than that
the rest just not very at all?
I get MH being silenced.
Rev is quiet because he is taking care of his daughter.
What about Arrows? He's been quiet for a long time, yet still not replaced...Hmmmm anyone wonder why?
Crychon
05-25-2010, 09:58 PM
Last time Jack Sparrow was in a game he was recruited, you know. ;)
Really? Don't remember that one. :p
Zeel1
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
What about Arrows? He's been quiet for a long time, yet still not replaced...Hmmmm anyone wonder why?
I suppose..I did feel some townie vibes before he got all quiet, but with him I guess that doesn't mean much. :p
But he also hasn't updated the Suikoden list..which, okay, I suppose he might do if he were trying to lay low but still.. :p
..I really am getting kind of worried.
But yeah, hasn't posted in about six days..it is troubling.
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
Really? Don't remember that one. :p
"YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!"
"Am I not?"
Heh, good times.
Crychon
05-25-2010, 10:02 PM
"YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!"
"Am I not?"
Heh, good times.
Indeed, they were.
Speaking of which, the sequel is almost done.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 10:04 PM
So we gonna end this phase early?
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 10:06 PM
So we gonna end this phase early?
I'd really rather you didn't.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 10:06 PM
I'd really rather you didn't.
My vote's not on you. Nor will it be until it's almost phase end. I'm talking about the votes that just flew on...ya know?
Wallbanger
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
My vote's not on you. Nor will it be until it's almost phase end. I'm talking about the votes that just flew on...ya know?
I know.
Speedlynching is almost exclusively a scum tactic.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 10:10 PM
I know.
Speedlynching is almost exclusively a scum tactic.
I've mentioned this before but..No one pays attention to me...
Goes to eat her sub.
moon_lit_tears
05-25-2010, 10:38 PM
Yay back to inactivity This games gonna go well for us.
ShadowedFlames
05-25-2010, 11:17 PM
Just in case...
Change Vote: No Vote
We have time yet.
petrija
05-26-2010, 12:04 AM
The more Banger talks, the more convinced I am that he's scum.
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 12:11 AM
Shadowed, mainly curiosity here, but who did you check for that last list? Was it MJD?
Imarevenant
05-26-2010, 01:56 AM
The more Banger talks, the more convinced I am that he's scum.
That.
Vote: Wallbanger
Will be back later tomorrow.
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 02:04 AM
*sigh*
i need sleep. My head hurts. Nightmares here I come.
Rev Not sure why but that post made me feel uneasy.
Night all.
ShadowedFlames
05-26-2010, 05:37 AM
Shadowed, mainly curiosity here, but who did you check for that last list? Was it MJD?
SGRaaize, actually.
The Two
05-26-2010, 06:16 AM
It is now Day Phase 7. With 12 players remaining, it is 7 votes to lynch.
You have until 5pm BST / 12 Noon EDT on Thursday, May 27th to reach a majority. If a lynch is not achieved, a No Lynch will be declared.
Wallbanger (5): Petrija, Zeel1, Jman2k3, Crychon, Imarevenant
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 07:28 AM
SGRaaize, actually.
....Huh.
So then..I guess Peck didn't go out that night, nor was he forced to..then, it really was a coincidence..
Alright, so SG's list: Wallbanger, Jman, Destiny, Bak42, and Crychon
And TBP's list: MJDGoldeneye, Masterded, 'Banger, Zeel, and Rev
Right..
So, how likely do you think it is that the Tapeworm was a hitman? Wouldn't rule it out, myself, but I feel like there are other abilities that would suit it better..like, say, roleblocking something by constricting around it, or something like that.. :p
His role title was "Invader"..Role Cop, maybe?
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 07:43 AM
I'm so upset right now I can't even think straight. :(
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 07:47 AM
....Huh.
So then..I guess Peck didn't go out that night, nor was he forced to..then, it really was a coincidence..
Alright, so SG's list: Wallbanger, Jman, Destiny, Bak42, and Crychon
And TBP's list: MJDGoldeneye, Masterded, 'Banger, Zeel, and Rev
Right..
So, how likely do you think it is that the Tapeworm was a hitman? Wouldn't rule it out, myself, but I feel like there are other abilities that would suit it better..like, say, roleblocking something by constricting around it, or something like that.. :p
His role title was "Invader"..Role Cop, maybe?
Invader could be a killer.
Destiny
05-26-2010, 08:08 AM
I can vouch for Crychon protecting me on Night 1 as I'm fairly certain that Max Peck tried to kill me that night.
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 08:12 AM
I can vouch for Crychon protecting me on Night 1 as I'm fairly certain that Max Peck tried to kill me that night.
How do you know that?
Destiny
05-26-2010, 08:13 AM
I don't know that for certain, but he seemed to want to lynch me whilst he was alive.
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 08:15 AM
How do you know that?
Peck said so himself. So the conclusion they came to was that Destiny was protected on that night.
Doesn't necessarily prove that Crych did it, but y'know..
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 08:16 AM
I don't know that for certain, but he seemed to want to lynch me whilst he was alive.
Well I'm not trying to sound like a b*tch, I'm on 2 hours of sleep and I'm very upset because I dropped my phone in the washing machine that of course had water in it. SO I'm not in the best of moods.
I wasn't aware that Max said he targeted Destiny.
Destiny
05-26-2010, 08:19 AM
You don't sound like a bitch at all. Even I, myself, can only now remember Max Peck explicitaley saying that he tried to kill me.
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 01:52 PM
You don't sound like a bitch at all. Even I, myself, can only now remember Max Peck explicitaley saying that he tried to kill me.
Well once my internet decides it's going to act normal again I will have to look. As it stands it keeps kicking me off...I swear this day can't get any worse. :D
The Two
05-26-2010, 06:27 PM
It is now Day Phase 7. With 12 players remaining, it is 7 votes to lynch.
You have until 5pm BST / 12 Noon EDT on Thursday, May 27th to reach a majority. If a lynch is not achieved, a No Lynch will be declared.
Wallbanger (5): Petrija, Zeel1, Jman2k3, Crychon, Imarevenant
Destiny
05-26-2010, 06:32 PM
I'm going to actually Vote: Wallbanger, as the day phase is moving too slowly for my liking.
Destiny
05-26-2010, 06:38 PM
Actually, looking at the time left in the phase, I'm going to Change Vote: No Vote.
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 08:42 PM
Can't make up your mind?
Destiny
05-26-2010, 09:27 PM
No, I can't. I'm not very happy with the inactivity and like you, believe there is a chance that Wallbanger is town.
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 09:29 PM
No, I can't. I'm not very happy with the inactivity and like you, believe there is a chance that Wallbanger is town.
I am sad to say that at this point It looks like it's either Lynch Bossman or go with a no lynch. I don't see a no lynch helping us at all.
Destiny
05-26-2010, 09:31 PM
That's what I was thinking, and that's why I placed my vote. However it then dawned upon me that with so much time left in the phase it would be silly to rush into a lynch now.
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 09:37 PM
Generally, I agree. Only thing is, how many people are going to be on at Noon? I mean, I know I'm typically asleep until about 4:00 PM.. :p
If you think we'll have enough people on to finish it by then, then go ahead and wait, but..I don't know. I know of a lot of other mafia players that are also night owls, so..this doesn't seem like an easy deadline to work with..
I realize this may sound like I'm trying to rush it, but the last time WB was lynched, it was literally seconds before deadline, if you recall. You'll understand if I'd like to avoid that kind of photofinish this time.. :p
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 09:40 PM
Generally, I agree. Only thing is, how many people are going to be on at Noon? I mean, I know I'm typically asleep until about 4:00 PM.. :p
If you think we'll have enough people on to finish it by then, then go ahead and wait, but..I don't know. I know of a lot of other mafia players that are also night owls, so..this doesn't seem like an easy deadline to work with..
I realize this may sound like I'm trying to rush it, but the last time WB was lynched, it was literally seconds before deadline, if you recall. You'll understand if I'd like to avoid that kind of photofinish this time.. :p
Nevermind, that was Mr. T. Whatever, same team.. :p
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 09:42 PM
I will be here. I'm always up at noon. I sleep like 2-3 hours a night. :p
Destiny
05-26-2010, 09:58 PM
I suppose that I shall also be online, as the deadline is 5PM here, so I should be home.
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 10:03 PM
Right, good. Well, if you'll both be here, then I say go ahead and wait it out.
petrija
05-26-2010, 10:06 PM
I get this strange feeling that one or both of them is scum and coincidentally won't be around.
Jman2k3
05-26-2010, 10:08 PM
I get this strange feeling that one or both of them is scum and coincidentally won't be around.
Word. And I have a feeling Destiny more than likely won't be around.
bak42
05-26-2010, 10:11 PM
Word. And I have a feeling Destiny more than likely won't be around.
Or at least will be around posting in other threads but conveniently forget to cast his vote.:D
petrija
05-26-2010, 10:11 PM
Word. And I have a feeling Destiny more than likely won't be around.
Here's my money saying it's "internet problems".
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 10:12 PM
Here's my money saying it's "internet problems".
Or maybe there will be a massive snowstorm, and his entire block loses electricity ten minutes before deadline. :p
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 10:15 PM
I get this strange feeling that one or both of them is scum and coincidentally won't be around.
Word. And I have a feeling Destiny more than likely won't be around.
I WILL beon before deadline to vote.
I'm still not thrilled but it is the only choice right now.
Ok going back to putting all my songs back on my phone.
Jman2k3
05-26-2010, 10:31 PM
Or at least will be around posting in other threads but conveniently forget to cast his vote.:D
I'm with this one. ;)
ShadowedFlames
05-26-2010, 10:59 PM
I'll even sweeten the pot a little, in case I get too busy at work to post before noon.
Vote: Wallbanger
His silence strikes me as a sure sign that it's scum who has given up.
Wallbanger
05-26-2010, 11:14 PM
I'll even sweeten the pot a little, in case I get too busy at work to post before noon.
Vote: Wallbanger
His silence strikes me as a sure sign that it's scum who has given up.
Yes, I avoided all that meaningful discussion today where multiple theories were theorized, posts were analyzed, votes dissected, motivations challenged...
Oh, wait. That was a different game. In my imagination. In this game, the people who wanted to consider other options were ignored.
Hail Ygzfx’fl!!
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 11:18 PM
Yes, I avoided all that meaningful discussion today where multiple theories were theorized, posts were analyzed, votes dissected, motivations challenged...
Oh, wait. That was a different game. In my imagination. In this game, the people who wanted to consider other options were ignored.
Hail Ygzfx’fl!!
I'm always ignored
/runs off sobbing.
Zeel1
05-26-2010, 11:24 PM
Alright..'Banger - and MLT, for that matter - I'll give you this shot then..
Who do you think killed SG? Jman, Destiny, Bak42, or Crychon?
I've an idea as to which way 'Banger would answer, but go ahead, make the case.
moon_lit_tears
05-26-2010, 11:33 PM
I have it down too two people. I believe Jman and Bak. I'm iffy on Destiny and Crychon.
Wallbanger
05-26-2010, 11:33 PM
Alright..'Banger - and MLT, for that matter - I'll give you this shot then..
Who do you think killed SG? Jman, Destiny, Bak42, or Crychon?
I've an idea as to which way 'Banger would answer, but go ahead, make the case.
Based on what's been said publicly in thread, only two of those have corroborating support for their claims. The other two have made claims that are difficult to corroborate, so we can't discount the fact that one or both are lying.
Wallbanger
05-26-2010, 11:35 PM
I have it down too two people. I believe Jman and Bak. I'm iffy on Destiny and Crychon.
/nod, there's independent support for those two in thread.
Jman2k3
05-26-2010, 11:51 PM
Destiny is scum. I'm telling you.
Wallbanger
05-26-2010, 11:52 PM
Destiny is scum. I'm telling you.
If you've believed that since the beginning, why send him something?
Jman2k3
05-26-2010, 11:53 PM
If you've believed that since the beginning, why send him something?
To further prove is scumminess.
Wallbanger
05-26-2010, 11:56 PM
To further prove is scumminess.
OK, I'm not sure I follow.
Jman2k3
05-27-2010, 12:04 AM
OK, I'm not sure I follow.
Well, I sent him something and if he lied about it saying he didn't recieve anything would prove he lied and his scumminess.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 12:06 AM
Well, I sent him something and if he lied about it saying he didn't recieve anything would prove he lied and his scumminess.
Why would he say he didn't get anything? The person who sent it would call him out immediately, that'd be dumb.
Jman2k3
05-27-2010, 12:09 AM
Why would he say he didn't get anything? The person who sent it would call him out immediately, that'd be dumb.
people do stupid things.
Wallbanger
05-27-2010, 12:10 AM
Why would he say he didn't get anything? The person who sent it would call him out immediately, that'd be dumb.
Gotta agree. By not lying he hasn't allowed you to prove anything one way or another.
Wallbanger
05-27-2010, 12:14 AM
people do stupid things.
Did Destiny pee in your Cheerios or something? Seriously, this is starting to sound personal.
Jman2k3
05-27-2010, 12:30 AM
Did Destiny pee in your Cheerios or something? Seriously, this is starting to sound personal.
Nope just think he's scum.
Wallbanger
05-27-2010, 12:37 AM
Nope just think he's scum.
What did you send him, anyway?
Wallbanger
05-27-2010, 12:42 AM
MLT, you around?
Crychon
05-27-2010, 06:15 AM
/nod, there's independent support for those two in thread.
Right. I just made up this whole "Liver" thing... People don't have those, right? Everyone has a flu vaccine, though.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 06:26 AM
MLT, you around?
Sorry Bossman went to bed. Sleeping 2 hours a night sucks. I needed atleast 4 last night. :)
The Two
05-27-2010, 07:48 AM
It is now Day Phase 7. With 12 players remaining, it is 7 votes to lynch.
You have until 5pm BST / 12 Noon EDT on Thursday, May 27th to reach a majority. If a lynch is not achieved, a No Lynch will be declared.
Wallbanger (6): Petrija, Zeel1, Jman2k3, Crychon, Imarevenant, ShadowedFlames
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 07:51 AM
I'm just going to end it now...
VOTE: Wallbanger ....:(
The Two
05-27-2010, 07:54 AM
Lynch has been Achieved!
Write up to follow shortly.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 08:32 AM
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/2498.gif
The Two
05-27-2010, 08:40 AM
Day 7
Early Evening...
As the sun sets on Jack's first week in the hospital, the nurse enters Jack's room to change his IVs. After completing her work, she spots a small pear-shaped fleshy object on the floor by Jack's bed.
She lifts the object to examine it.
Nurse: "Doctor, come look at this!"
The Doctor enters, take the object from her hands and studies it himself.
Doctor: "Looks to me like a Gallbladder, and not a healthy one at that. Hey, maybe that inflammation has something to do with this man still not making any kind of recovery. He must be cured now. Huzzah!"
With that, the Doctor tosses the object into a nearby bin and triumphantly leaves the room.
------------------------------
Wallbanger is dead. He was Jack’s Gallbladder, Mafia Aligned Hitman
------------------------------
It was Day Phase 7. With 12 players remaining, it was 7 votes to Lynch.
Final Vote Count
Wallbanger (7): Petrija, Zeel1, Jman2k3, Crychon, Imarevenant, ShadowedFlames, Moon_lit_tears
-----------------------------
MichiganHero is now free to post in the thread again.
The Two
05-27-2010, 08:48 AM
It is now Night Phase 7.
If you have an ability and are choosing to use it, please PM both The Two and Derek_B with your actions. If you are choosing not to use your ability, please also PM both Mods to inform us of you decision, that way we won't be left waiting for you.
You have until 3pm BST / 10am EDT on Friday, May 28th to get your abilities in.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 08:55 AM
You know, I'm beginning to think I should not play this game anymore. :(
Destiny
05-27-2010, 09:06 AM
Well, I'm around with two hours to spare before the end of the deadline, just like I promised I would be. Thankfully, the lynch has already gone ahead.
ShadowedFlames
05-27-2010, 09:07 AM
You know, I'm beginning to think I should not play this game anymore. :(
It's called "not letting your emotions get in the way," hon. You're still good at this, you just let your emotions rule too much. :)
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:08 AM
It's called "not letting your emotions get in the way," hon. You're still good at this, you just let your emotions rule too much. :)
It had nothing to do with Emotions. I just honestly thought he wasn't scum. I had a feeling about someone else though. I'm not saying anything yet though.
Destiny
05-27-2010, 09:17 AM
Fair enough, perhaps you should let us know your feelings during the next day phase.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 09:24 AM
Wallbanger is dead. He was Jack’s Gallbladder, Mafia Aligned Hitman
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Zeel1/gant-wahahaa.gif
Ah, man. I've been sure that he was scum for a long time, but there was always this nagging little voice in my head that said "But what if he somehow ends up being town after you've pushed so much?! You would end up looking so very scummy..or like a complete moron!"
So very good to see him come up red, and the Hitman to boot!
So, just to get clarification here - as I've never actually been in a full scum group; when a killer dies, does it take a full night to pick a new hitman? Or is that just with Dons? I'm thinking that's just with Dons, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
You know, I'm beginning to think I should not play this game anymore. :(
Sweetie, sweetie, sweetie..don't be like that, now. You're great at this game. You can't be right about them all. I can't say I ever understood why you were so sure he was town with all of the evidence against him, but it was the way you felt - assuming you weren't deliberately trying to save a scum buddy, which I see as somewhat unlikely, as I doubt you'd fight as hard as you did, if that was the case - and you should always go with your instincts. Just had bad luck this time, is all. Don't let it get to you, cupcake.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:26 AM
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Zeel1/gant-wahahaa.gif
Ah, man. I've been sure that he was scum for a long time, but there was always this nagging little voice in my head that said "But what if he somehow ends up being town after you've pushed so much?! You would end up looking so very scummy..or like a complete moron!"
So very good to see him come up red, and the Hitman to boot!
So, just to get clarification here - as I've never actually been in a full scum group; when a killer dies, does it take a full night to pick a new hitman? Or is that just with Dons? I'm thinking that's just with Dons, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
Sweetie, sweetie, sweetie..don't be like that, now. You're great at this game. You can't be right about them all. I can't say I ever understood why you were so sure he was town with all of the evidence against him, but it was the way you felt - assuming you weren't deliberately trying to save a scum buddy, which I see as somewhat unlikely, as I doubt you'd fight as hard as you did, if that was the case - and you should always go with your instincts. Just had bad luck this time, is all. Don't let it get to you, cupcake.
It's even worse because of what I knew. I knew he wasn't jack aligned. So when he came out and claimed a miller type role. I thought he was telling the truth. I know the evidence was there. I know it was, but I didn't want to see it I suppose. :). It happens though. :)
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 09:30 AM
It's even worse because of what I knew. I knew he wasn't jack aligned. So when he came out and claimed a miller type role. I thought he was telling the truth. I know the evidence was there. I know it was, but I didn't want to see it I suppose. :). It happens though. :)*Hopes Crych saw that.*
...Why would you go and say that? That was such a very, very unnecessary reveal..
petrija
05-27-2010, 09:31 AM
...You knew he wasn't Jack aligned?
Destiny
05-27-2010, 09:33 AM
It would probably be for the best if moon_lit_tears waited until day phase to reveal that information.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:34 AM
*Hopes Crych saw that.*
...Why would you go and say that? That was such a very, very unnecessary reveal..
You think if I had that ability I would claim it? I'm not that wreckless.
...You knew he wasn't Jack aligned?
Yeah I knew just before he claimed.
petrija
05-27-2010, 09:35 AM
And you thought it was best to just, not say anything, particularly when you're saying it's not your ability?
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:37 AM
Was pointless at the time he claimed to be non jack aligned.
Destiny
05-27-2010, 09:38 AM
I don't think that he did claim to be non-Jack aligned, he claimed that he just didn't come up as Jack-aligned when investigated.
petrija
05-27-2010, 09:38 AM
Was pointless at the time he claimed to be non jack aligned.
How is it any less pointless, now, then?
If anything, it just makes you look bad.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:40 AM
Really?
Cuz ya know the other stuff didn't make me look bad enough?
petrija
05-27-2010, 09:41 AM
Pretty much.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:43 AM
Once he came up red I knew I looked bad. Eh!
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 09:44 AM
I can..kind of understand it, actually. I mean, if someone looks like a deadset lynch, I can get not revealing that kind of thing..they go to the noose without you having to out yourself..
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:46 AM
I can..kind of understand it, actually. I mean, if someone looks like a deadset lynch, I can get not revealing that kind of thing..they go to the noose without you having to out yourself..
I haven't outed anything. :D
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 09:47 AM
I haven't outed anything. :D
I know, I know. I'm just saying, I can get that kind of logic.
petrija
05-27-2010, 09:48 AM
I can..kind of understand it, actually. I mean, if someone looks like a deadset lynch, I can get not revealing that kind of thing..they go to the noose without you having to out yourself..
Except, by that logic, why out it after?
What bothers me is she knew before he said anything.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 09:51 AM
Except, by that logic, why out it after?
What bothers me is she knew before he said anything.
I can't say I understand why she'd say it afterwards, either..sounds more like something you'd reveal postgame, to tell you the truth.. :p
Well..maybe she was just looking to see what he'd claim. If he claimed something that wouldn't come up scum, then she'd bring it up. But since he claimed miller, there was little point in saying she got a non-Jack result.
petrija
05-27-2010, 09:51 AM
..And still fought for it.
I get the whole "but he claimed miller so it was useless."
Here's my issue with this, and it's not just in this game, but every game.
In a game, if you have a miller, how many are there going to be? I've never seen more than 1 in any given game.
Versus, how many scum members that are going to be in that game that are going to come up scum?
So, the chances of someone coming up scum because they are actually scum, are MUCH greater than that of coming up scum because of a miller role, sometimes the odds are as great as 10:1.
So why people are automatically like "oh, he's a miller, ha. Well, that fits. Okay." I don't understand.
Especially when they've got a flimsy claim.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 09:52 AM
*sigh* I said something because I know the questions will come later. It's there so can't take it back now. ;)
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:00 AM
Again, can't see why she felt so sure. But in fairness, she wasn't the only one who said "But maybe he's town!"
Honestly..I don't get the power of persuasion that 'Banger seems to hold over some people. Nothing about him the last couple phases said town to me. He came up on two FI lists, was blocked on a night with no kills, claimed an entirely lynchbait role, and that he would come up scum, tried to redirect attention to someone else in the lone post that he made two day phases ago, tried to get us to focus more on the possible cult - which yes, we still should be looking out for, but talking about it while you're under the gun just screams "trying to redirect attention" to me - ...where did the doubt of him being scum come from?
In SW3, he responded to pressure by essentially rolling his eyes at the town, and he got away with just that, for about twelve frickin' hours..I mean, what's the deal here? You shouldn't be able to get away with that crap..how does he do this to people? And why am I seemingly immune..? :p
Maybe people just respect him too much to want to build cases against him, or point out rampant scumminess from him..? I dunno..
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:01 AM
It was it came out in a ramble. I don't have that ability. I wouldn't say anything if I had. I just kinda *knew* before he said anything. I don't know why but I did.
I know that I'm on the *lets question her* list for tomorrow.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:03 AM
Okay, so, moving on.
We have
1 Cancer dead, possibly indy, possibly cult.
2 Mafia dead.
22 players?
I'm thinking we have between 5 at the last, and 8 at the most, scum. 8 is a stretch that I can only see if the scum teams are weak.
Now.
If Cancer was recruiting, which, due to the nature of the disease, you'd think it would be (though there doesn't seem to be evidence in the right ups, though I admit I stopped reading them in depth because I've been reading them on my phones) then these numbers could be skewed. But like I said, it really doesn't look like there has been.
However, if Cancer IS a cult, then we'd likely have an indy on our hands as well.
As for who's scum of who's left?
I'm really, really feeling Destiny as scum. I can't really give you any reason, I just, really feel it.
Now..
01. Arrows
02. Bak42
07. Imarevenant
08. Jman2k3
12. MichiganHero
15. Moon Lit Tears
16. Petrija
17. ShadowedFlames (Replacing SeanMcFly)
19. Crychon (Replacing SuperOwens)
22. Zeel1
Arrows obviously really stands out because he's been so silent. But I feel like there's more to that, because he's a smarter player than that. However, I'm torn between "it's been days and he hasn't been replaced!" And.. "give him a chance to come on."
Jman always reads as scum to me, so I just, don't know.
I'd really like to hear from MichiganHero, now..
No one else on the list really, strikes me right now.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:05 AM
It was it came out in a ramble. I don't have that ability. I wouldn't say anything if I had. I just kinda *knew* before he said anything. I don't know why but I did.
I know that I'm on the *lets question her* list for tomorrow.
...So now you didn't know?
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:05 AM
Again, can't see why she felt so sure. But in fairness, she wasn't the only one who said "But maybe he's town!"
Honestly..I don't get the power of persuasion that 'Banger seems to hold over some people. Nothing about him the last couple phases said town to me. He came up on two FI lists, was blocked on a night with no kills, claimed an entirely lynchbait role, and that he would come up scum, tried to redirect attention to someone else in the lone post that he made two day phases ago, tried to get us to focus more on the possible cult - which yes, we still should be looking out for, but talking about it while you're under the gun just screams "trying to redirect attention" to me - ...where did the doubt of him being scum come from?
In SW3, he responded to pressure by essentially rolling his eyes at the town, and he got away with just that, for about twelve frickin' hours..I mean, what's the deal here? You shouldn't be able to get away with that crap..how does he do this to people? And why am I seemingly immune..? :p
Maybe people just respect him too much to want to build cases against him, or point out rampant scumminess from him..? I dunno..
It's all about names. Why else is one scummy for avoiding threads. yet another avoids it for days and it's fine. It's ignored when questioned.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:06 AM
Yeah I knew just before he claimed.
Was pointless at the time he claimed to be non jack aligned.
You can't now tell me that you're saying you knew it via intuition.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:09 AM
You can't now tell me that you're saying you knew it via intuition.
Believe what you want. Doesn't matter to me.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:09 AM
I've told you before why I didn't feel as much scumminess from Arrows' silence..but having said that, there's something I recently realized..
He's been seemingly inactive for a long while..but recent night phases have still ended early..
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:09 AM
I've told you before why I didn't feel as much scumminess from Arrows' silence..but having said that, there's something I recently realized..
He's been seemingly inactive for a long while..but recent night phases have still ended early..
But I get ignored when this is pointed out.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:10 AM
But I get ignored when this is pointed out.
When did you say anything about nights ending early?
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:10 AM
Great defense, MLT, you're on a roll.
I've told you before why I didn't feel as much scumminess from Arrows' silence..but having said that, there's something I recently realized..
He's been seemingly inactive for a long while..but recent night phases have still ended early..
Which could mean he doesn't have an ability, that's what I meant to ask in my previous post... Anyone remember if he said he did or didn't have an ability?
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:10 AM
When did you say anything about nights ending early?
I was pointing out he hasn't been around.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:12 AM
I was pointing out he hasn't been around.
It wasn't ignored, and you weren't the only one to mention it. There were just bigger matters at hand. Like, you know. Banger. The obvious red scum.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:13 AM
Great defense, MLT, you're on a roll.
Which could mean he doesn't have an ability, that's what I meant to ask in my previous post... Anyone remember if he said he did or didn't have an ability?
You get what you get.
No he never said either way. Let's ask him. Oh wait he won't answer.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:13 AM
You get what you get.
No he never said either way. Let's ask him. Oh wait he won't answer.
LOL.
That is all.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:14 AM
It wasn't ignored, and you weren't the only one to mention it. There were just bigger matters at hand. Like, you know. Banger. The obvious red scum.
Oh yeah, Silly me I forgot we only focus on one person per phase. :)
Later folks. :)
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:15 AM
Lol, your logic is silly. :)
*Skips and sings.*
...If I only had a nightkill...
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:18 AM
My logic is silly?
To use the day phase to ask questions of the quiet people?
Yes I'm sorry that is silly.
I could care less if you had a nightkill. I would still win if the town wins. :D
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:20 AM
My logic is silly?
To use the day phase to ask questions of the quiet people?
Yes I'm sorry that is silly.
I could care less if you had a nightkill. I would still win if the town wins. :D
When the quiet people aren't around, yes it's quite silly, haha.
When it serves as a distraction away from the matter at hand (ie, the red scum you were defending), yes, it's silly.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:21 AM
Yeah let's ignore them cuz there quiet. NICE LOGIC
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:21 AM
Another matter revolving around 'Banger's lynch that I feel is worth discussing..
Wallbanger is dead. He was Jack’s Gallbladder, Mafia Aligned Hitman
..Gallbladder as scum? Evil body parts..? Worrying..
Imarevenant
05-27-2010, 10:22 AM
Oh yeah, Silly me I forgot we only focus on one person per phase. :)
Later folks. :)
When the game is as quiet as this one, you kinda do
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:23 AM
It is worrying, and it means that we have to look closely at everyone's claims and see if there are any connections we can find.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:23 AM
When the game is as quiet as this one, you kinda do
I thought talking and getting people active was the point of day phase?
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:24 AM
It is worrying, and it means that we have to look closely at everyone's claims and see if there are any connections we can find.
But that's the thing..what connection is there to find? There's nothing particularly "evil" about a Gallbladder. If it it could be scum, then any bodypart could be scum..that's a scary thought..
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:25 AM
I agree with moon_lit_tears, and that's why, like her, I wasn't as eager as several others to rush the lynch yesterday.
Imarevenant
05-27-2010, 10:26 AM
I thought talking and getting people active was the point of day phase?
Yes, but when it's less active and votes are hard to come by splitting pressure between multiple people becomes much more difficult.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:27 AM
Yeah let's ignore them cuz there quiet. NICE LOGIC
No, hon, not IGNORE. There were more pressing issues, particularly when I know Arrows has hardly been around for the last few days. I'd personally rather question the one who's around to answer, than, you know, ask questions of someone who isn't even around to answer, and has an excuse for not answering (ie. I wasn't here) whereas the person who WAS here to answer, would have no excuse for NOT answering.
And considering Banger was the HITMAN of the RED SCUM GROUP, I don't understand how you're still going to say that we should have looked elsewhere, lol.
But, you know, that's just me.
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:28 AM
Instead of looking at negatives, we should perhaps look at the positives, one of them being that the scum may not have a kill tonight.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:28 AM
Another matter revolving around 'Banger's lynch that I feel is worth discussing..
..Gallbladder as scum? Evil body parts..? Worrying..
Yeah, I'm not so sure either.
If it wasn't red mafia, I'd suggest maybe a recruit.
Imarevenant
05-27-2010, 10:28 AM
But that's the thing..what connection is there to find? There's nothing particularly "evil" about a Gallbladder. If it it could be scum, then any bodypart could be scum..that's a scary thought..
Gallbladder attacks are extremely painful, makes sense for it to be a hitman. I would expect bodyparts that aren't vital organs and you can do without may be the ones that are candidates to be in the mafia. So, maybe a Kidney, Pancreas, Gallbladder of course etc...
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:29 AM
I hope that there haven't been any recruits, and I don't believe we've seen any in the write-ups.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:29 AM
Gallbladder attacks are extremely painful, makes sense for it to be a hitman. I would expect bodyparts that aren't vital organs and you can do without may be the ones that are candidates to be in the mafia. So, maybe a Kidney, Pancreas, Gallbladder of course etc...
Off the top of my head, appendix, tonsils..
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:30 AM
Suggesting we use the phase to ask questions and gather more information is bad?
So we lynched Red scum. What do we have now? The same people talking and the same people being quiet and nothing to go on...
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:30 AM
Wisdom teeth?
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:31 AM
Wisdom teeth is a possibility, but I feel that some of the others mentioned are more likely.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:31 AM
I hope that there haven't been any recruits, and I don't believe we've seen any in the write-ups.
I'd say you wouldn't be able to, no matter what, but..maybe you would.
Maybe there's a lot of bits and pieces, hidden in the write-ups..I mean, those brain waves seem to come up whenever I go out at night. And I believe Kobe made an appearance at the end of N1..maybe there are some other little things we can look for?
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:31 AM
Suggesting we use the phase to ask questions and gather more information is bad?
So we lynched Red scum. What do we have now? The same people talking and the same people being quiet and nothing to go on...
When we run out of big options is when we start lynching inactives, because it's a gamble. They could be scum or town, and they're not around to answer questions, so you kind of just have to eliminate them one by one when there's nothing else to go on.
Imarevenant
05-27-2010, 10:32 AM
Off the top of my head, appendix, tonsils..
Yeah, appendix, that's what I meant instead of pancreas LOL. Don't know how that happened, I could even think of the role for Appendix already.
But anyway, if there are more organs in the mafia I would expect them to be these types that can have issues like appendicitis or gallstones that cause a ton of pain in a person even though the body part itself is not something one needs to live.
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:32 AM
Perhaps, this certainly is different from most games. However, if there are still Cancer-aligned people around, we really need to deal with them.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:33 AM
Yeah, appendix, that's what I meant instead of pancreas LOL. Don't know how that happened, I could even think of the role for Appendix already.
But anyway, if there are more organs in the mafia I would expect them to be these types that can have issues like appendicitis or gallstones that cause a ton of pain in a person even though the body part itself is not something one needs to live.
I've had an idea for a good long while now as to who the Appendix is..based purely on an ability, so could be wrong, but y'know..
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:34 AM
Wisdom teeth is a possibility, but I feel that some of the others mentioned are more likely.
Beat you to it :p.
...HAHA I almost said uterus.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:35 AM
When we run out of big options is when we start lynching inactives, because it's a gamble. They could be scum or town, and they're not around to answer questions, so you kind of just have to eliminate them one by one when there's nothing else to go on.
I know this. That's why i had been pointing questions at the quiet ones. I'd rather hear from them then just blindly lynch them.
That's just me though
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:35 AM
Beat you to it :p.
...HAHA I almost said uterus.
Dammit, ya caught me~!
You are Jack's Uterus, Mafia-Aligned Proof of Transexuality
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:35 AM
I've had an idea for a good long while now as to who the Appendix is..based purely on an ability, so could be wrong, but y'know..
I suppose in that sense my role could be seen as lynch-bait. However, I am not the Appendix.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:35 AM
I know this. That's why i had been pointing questions at the quiet ones. I'd rather hear from them then just blindly lynch them.
That's just me though
When the time comes, we'll obviously ask questions, and when they're not answered, well, you know.
Imarevenant
05-27-2010, 10:36 AM
Suggesting we use the phase to ask questions and gather more information is bad?
Not at all and nobody is saying that, however, indicting anyone because they didn't question an inactive person when there was someone else on the table that looked scummy as all sin is shortsighted.
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:36 AM
I really hope that Arrows, for one, will be around during the next day phase, as if he's town, he could really help us.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:36 AM
Dammit, ya caught me~!
You are Jack's Uterus, Mafia-Aligned Proof of Transexuality
...Bahahaha.
I suppose in that sense my role could be seen as lynch-bait. However, I am not the Appendix.
...That's because you're scum.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:36 AM
Perhaps, this certainly is different from most games. However, if there are still Cancer-aligned people around, we really need to deal with them.
What would they be doing?
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:37 AM
I'm not scum. I am aware that both yourself and Jman2k3 think I am scum, and I am perplexed as to Jman2k3's actions.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:37 AM
What would they be doing?
My best bet is recruiting, like I said. It just, is the most fitting.
ShadowedFlames
05-27-2010, 10:37 AM
Right now, I can acount for all of the night deaths save 2...and one of those is a "maybe." Hopefully tonight gives us the next piece of the puzzle.
Destiny
05-27-2010, 10:37 AM
Aye, if they're around then they're most likely recruiting, as if they continue to do that, it can win them the game.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:38 AM
I'm not scum. I am aware that both yourself and Jman2k3 think I am scum, and I am perplexed as to Jman2k3's actions.
My idea that you're scum isn't based on Jman, cause I'm not entirely sure he's not scum, well, if anything I'd say he's indy, maybe survivor, given his role, because I'm not certain he's town.
...I'm just, 75% sure you're scum.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:38 AM
My idea that you're scum isn't based on Jman, cause I'm not entirely sure he's not scum, well, if anything I'd say he's indy, maybe survivor, given his role, because I'm not certain he's town.
...I'm just, 87% sure you're scum.
Fixed.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:38 AM
Right now, I can acount for all of the night deaths save 2...and one of those is a "maybe." Hopefully tonight gives us the next piece of the puzzle.
...What are your feelings on the remaining players, good sir?
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:39 AM
Fixed.
Nope, that's as sure as you can be. I'm not quite THAT sure.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:40 AM
My best bet is recruiting, like I said. It just, is the most fitting.
So instead of killing just outnumber everyone else?
Right now, I can acount for all of the night deaths save 2...and one of those is a "maybe." Hopefully tonight gives us the next piece of the puzzle.
I'm telling your boss. :p
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:41 AM
So instead of killing just outnumber everyone else?
Exactly.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:41 AM
Exactly.
Or they could have the option to kill, to move things along faster and have chosen not to use it.
Though in a game this small, that feels overpowered, to me.
ShadowedFlames
05-27-2010, 10:42 AM
...What are your feelings on the remaining players, good sir?
You'll have to give me some time, at work and not sure if a big block of text will work for the question at hand. I still want to go over my spreadsheet and make sure my logic is sound, as well.
moon_lit_tears
05-27-2010, 10:43 AM
You'll have to give me some time, at work and not sure if a big block of text will work for the question at hand. I still want to go over my spreadsheet and make sure my logic is sound, as well.
It's not. :p
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:43 AM
You'll have to give me some time, at work and not sure if a big block of text will work for the question at hand. I still want to go over my spreadsheet and make sure my logic is sound, as well.
Fair enough.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:45 AM
Right now, I can acount for all of the night deaths save 2...and one of those is a "maybe." Hopefully tonight gives us the next piece of the puzzle.
Lemme see..
N1: Gruntmark - ever since Kobe was lynched, and I looked back and saw her talks of delayed killings, I've had this marked down as a second scum team (since revealed as the Mafia) killing. The SK was most likely delayed, and the vig targeted Destiny, so..gonna say Wallbanger took Grunt down here.
N2: Midnight Freakin' Nick - Delayed Kobe kill, BHK - Peck kill, TBP - Mafia/Wallbanger
N3: Eayragt - Figured Mafia/Banger, 'till Banger showed up on the SG list..now, I guess this was the delayed SK kill.. SGRaizee - Mafia/Banger
N4: Mac Peck - Delayed SK FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, MJDGoldeneye - gotta think Mafia/Banger
N5: Blocked Banger
N6: Blocked Banger
Would most certainly look like Cancer can't kill, if they're still around, doesn't it..
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:48 AM
...Oh Crap, I forgot about our indy hospital food.
Who was black.
Which makes me feel MORE like Cancer is Cult..
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:48 AM
...Oh Crap, I forgot about our indy hospital food.
Who was black.
Which makes me feel MORE like Cancer is Cult..
Racist.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:49 AM
Now, Zeel, do me a favor, put together the list of just Mafia kills.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:49 AM
Racist.
Yeah, AND?! :D:p
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:50 AM
Alright..these are the Mafia kills, by my estimation;
N1: Gruntmark
N2: Tha Black Phenom
N3: SGRaizee
N4: MJDGoldeneye
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:51 AM
Now, what made them targets?
ShadowedFlames
05-27-2010, 10:52 AM
Zeel--question. You think that the SK could only send in kills on opposite nights? I'm thinking this to be the case, since Kobe's apparent kills are N2 (Nick) and N4 (Max). To me, that still leaves one death open, on N3 when Kobe SHOULD have been sending in a PM.
petrija
05-27-2010, 10:53 AM
Zeel--question. You think that the SK could only send in kills on opposite nights? I'm thinking this to be the case, since Kobe's apparent kills are N2 (Nick) and N4 (Max). To me, that still leaves one death open, on N3 when Kobe SHOULD have been sending in a PM.
That's what I mentioned earlier in the game. It would certainly help balance.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:57 AM
N1: Gruntmark - Common early kill.
N2: Tha Black Phenom - See above.
N3: SGRaizee - Fairly impressive rookie, so a "safe" kill, as it'd be taking out someone potentially useful without much risk for protection.
N4: MJDGoldeneye - Respected player, but less likely to be protected nowadays with his whole "My mind is confuddled, I have no idea where I am, why did I sign up?!" routine he's been doing recently, so seems like a valid choice.
I can make non-game-specific reasons for all of them so far, but still might be worth it to try and look back and see who they had hunches on.
Zeel--question. You think that the SK could only send in kills on opposite nights? I'm thinking this to be the case, since Kobe's apparent kills are N2 (Nick) and N4 (Max). To me, that still leaves one death open, on N3 when Kobe SHOULD have been sending in a PM.
Nope, just came to the conclusion that she was delayed, due to the fact that she was always talking about delayed kills, seemingly thinking it was more common then it is. Plus, she "appeared" in the N1 write-up, after Grunt was dead, so I figured that was when she sent in the kill, and N2 was when it first happened.
You're right though, I wasn't..thinking too clearly when I went with Delayed SK, but you're right, that wouldn't make sense.
Maybe they were Lovers, after all, like me and others thought? What with the Red and White blood cells dying on the same night, seems possible to me that Eay died as a result of SG going down.
ShadowedFlames
05-27-2010, 10:57 AM
That's what I mentioned earlier in the game. It would certainly help balance.
hmmm. Will have to think on this.
ShadowedFlames
05-27-2010, 10:59 AM
also, Zeel, that thought hit me too regarding the lovers/siblings role.
Zeel1
05-27-2010, 10:59 AM
Maybe they were Lovers, after all, like me and others thought? What with the Red and White blood cells dying on the same night, seems possible to me that Eay died as a result of SG going down.
Or, y'know, vice versa. :p But if it were Eay's kill, would the killer show up on SG's FI list? I guess I could maybe see it, seeing as otherwise the FI would just get a blank PM, but..
petrija
05-27-2010, 11:01 AM
also, Zeel, that thought hit me too regarding the lovers/siblings role.
...But what interests me, is that's not the night that there were three deaths.
Who was the third kill N2?
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