Real world data (ORC) released

[panix04]

Fall of the one ring circus version 1.1 ladies and gents

Data (from several file sharing sites)

http://rapidshare.com/files/5138246/fotorc.zip.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9RKZCUZ7

http://www.sendspace.com/file/f43o14

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GAMMHZLF - move pictures

This is a basic conversion of the TEW mod sans pictures and graphics. All workers have been given a default moveset so dont expect everyone to have there trademark moves/specific finishers yet. This is a no-frill version! I will be working on movesets shortly and then i will make a move picture set to go with it, but for those of you who cant wait to take on AJ Styles or Kurt Angle here you are!

Thanks to:
Tom Patrick for permission to convert his amazing mod and all the TCP productions crew for helping to make it.
Forlan for the use of some of T-zones Canadian wrestlers
and to Adam with out your game i might have had a social life, urgh, horrible things!

Enjoy!

EDIT: Have deleted all of the cornellverse custom moves and added a moveset for Mick Foley, the mirrors that have been set up will not include these changes - i will only put up-to date links on this 1st post. If any one wants to send me move lists for there fave stars please do so and i can put them in!

[Goldenskillz]

Well i cant use MEGAUPLOAD but i am looking forward to the actual release, hopefully some1 will mirror that for me. ;) Keep up the good.....and probably tough....work.

[davidEFC]

Thanks i can't wait to test this.

Edit: I have just noticed it's on Megaupload, Sometimes it don't work for me on that. Only time will tell......

[j20!]

Since Megaupload is dodgey sometimes i have uploaded it to other sites for you:)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n9q7gf
http://www.sendmefiles.com/download.php?id=JcuP4eyOUHzcy3K3X0eE

[davidEFC]

Since Megaupload is dodgey sometimes i have uploaded it to other sites for you:)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n9q7gf
http://www.sendmefiles.com/download.php?id=JcuP4eyOUHzcy3K3X0eE

Thanks much appreciated. Sendspace = Number 1!

[j20!]

Looking good

[jrc207]

How do you import the mod to the game?

[sphanlon]

Not familiar with the original TEW version. What Feds are in it?

[HHUK]

How do you import the mod to the game?

Download this file, in WreSpi 2 go on the database section, and "create a new database", call it real world. Then unzip this file into that folder.

[panix04]

well i have posted the move pics for anyone who wants them, there not all done yet, but there is enough there to make it worth a download!

[OTBs Bill Parkman]

I think the data is decent for how short this game has been out, but the move sets need work. But you already stated that, so outside of that good job. I've already had quite a few A* matches with my AJ/Daniels tag team.

[panix04]

yeah movesets are gonna be a nightmare, especially seeing as i am limited to just being able to watch raw and smackdown! Im kinda hoping people will send post a few workers with a few trademark moves so i can do movesets for the indy guys.

[jonlawson]

Panix, you rule man, excellant work so far!

[panix04]

cheers Jon, im glad a few people are giving this a try. If people want to start listing some movesets i'd really appreciate it. I dont need to have the entire moveset - just the names of there trademark/finishers and i can fill in the blanks with generic moves suited to there style. Come on people help me make a good mod great!

[OTBs Bill Parkman]

For trademark moves, I'd suggest Obsessedwithwrestling.com. You can find most anything that revolves around pro wrestling there.

For example, this is found under Raven's profile:

Finishing Move: EvenFlow DDT aka Raven Effect
Favorite Moves: Russian Leg Sweep
Irish Whip to Corner into Clothesline
The Bulldog
Drop Toe Hold Into Standing Chair
Hardcore weapons to the head
Spinning Falling Clothesline
Thrust Kick
Knee Lift

[davidEFC]

cheers Jon, im glad a few people are giving this a try. If people want to start listing some movesets i'd really appreciate it. I dont need to have the entire moveset - just the names of there trademark/finishers and i can fill in the blanks with generic moves suited to there style. Come on people help me make a good mod great!

All from obsessedwithwrestling.com

John Cena
STFU
FU

You Can't See Me Stalling Suplex
Five Knuckle Shuffle
Dropkick
Elbow Smash
Rapper Punch
The Throwback (Running Neck Snap)
Missile Dropkick
Running Corner Attack
Spinebuster
Steel Chain Attack
Swinging Fishermanbuster
Pump It Up

Triple H
The Pedigree

Inverted Indian Deathlock
Knee to Face
Running neckbreaker
Running Knee Smash
DDT
Spinning Spinebuster
Sleeper Hold
Abdominal Stretch
Knee Drop
Mounted Punches
Hooking Clothesline
Blatant Choke

Edge
The Downward Spiral
The Edgecution

The Spear
Missile Dropkick
Edge-O-Matic
The Crossbody
The Edgecator
Half Nelson Sitout Facebuster
Flying Spear
Electric Chair Drop
One Man Conchairto

Shawn Michaels
Sweet Chin Music

Flying Moonsault Attack
Inverted Atomic Drop
Running Forearm Attack
Pescado
Elbow Drop
Belly to Back Suplex
Teardrop Suplex
Dropkick

Ric Flair
Figure Four Leg Lock

Knee Drop
Flair Flip
Back Suplex
Eye Gouge
Stalling Suplex
Low Blow

Carlito
Backcracker

Kane
Tombstone Piledriver
Chokeslam from Hell

Chokeslam
Big Boot
Tilt a Whirl Slam
Clothesline from the top rope

Shelton Benjamin
T-Bone Suplex
Exploder Powerslam

Springboard Bulldog
The Super Kick
Northern Lights Suplex
Over the Shoulder Hammerlock Powerslam
Running Corner Body Press
Flying Inverted Bulldog

Johnny Nitro
Standing Shooting Star Press

Viscera
The Big Splash

Spinning Heel Kick

Val Venis
The Money Shot

Blue Thunder Bomb
Half Nelson Slam
Running Knee Strike
Grinding Mounted Punches
Venus Flytrap (Reverse Figure-4 Leg Lock)
Spinning Spinebuster
Russian Leg Sweep
Knee Drop
Fisherman Suplex
Leg Hammerlock

Charlie Haas
Haas of Pain

Exploder Suplex 98
The Hasstruction
The Haascraker
German Suplex

Eugene
Airplane Spin
Rock Bottom
Stone Cold Stunner

Flying Double Axe Handle
Copying Moves of Favorite Wrestlers

Gene Snitsky
Egoist Schwein aka Pumphandle Side Powerslam
Scissor Kick to the head

Harry Smith
Running Powerslam
Arabian Crab/Clutch

The Bulldog Bite (modified Dragon Sleeper)
Running Over-the-Shoulder Powerslam
The Emerald Frosion
The Brainbuster
German Suplex
Backdrop Suplex
Delayed Vertical Suplex
High-Angle Boston Crab

Randy Orton
R.K.O

Every variation of a Chinlock possible
Inverted Headlock Backbreaker
Falling Clothesline
Dropkick
DDT

Umaga
Samoan Spike

Top Rope Splash
Running Butt whiplash?????

Kenny
Flying Leg Drop

Johnny
Corkscrew Kick

Matt Striker
The Happy Monkey Submission
OverDrive

Leaping Double Knee Takedown Backbreaker
LungBlower
Skayde Lock (Standing STF)

Trevor Murdoch
Bulldog off the Top Rope

Lance Cade
Lariat Clothesline
Flying Elbow Drop

Rob Conway
The Whiplash (WWE)
Bonsoir (La Resistance)

Swinging Neckbreaker on Ropes
Neckbreaker
DDT

Batista
Batista Bomb

Spinebuster
Spear
Strong Clothesline
Doublehand Choke Lift
Elevated Half Crab
Elbow Face Stretch
Hammerlock and Arm Bar

Rey Mysterio
6-1-9 & West Coast Pop

Super Huracanrana
Apron-Dive Bulldog Lariat
Apron-Dive Huracanrana
Asai Moonsault
Baseball Slide Headscissors Takeover
Bronco Buster
Bulldog out of Bodyscissors
Catapult Somersault Huracanrana Suicida
Dropping the Dime (Springboard Leg Drop)
Hammerlock Stretch Hold
Missile Dropkick
The Mysterio Express
Split-Legged Moonsault Splash
Tilt-a-Whirl Headscissors Takeover


The Undertaker
Tobstone Piledriver
Choleslam

Takin Care of Business (Dragon Sleeper)
Oldschool (Walking the ropes axe handle)
Balistic punches
The Big boot
Running DDT
The Clothesline

Bobby Lashley
The Dominator
Running Powerslam

Front Powerslam
ClotheslineFallaway Slam
Shoulder Block
Spear
Gorilla Press
Overhead Belly-to-belly Suplex
Arm Trap Suplex

Paul Burchill
The C4

Rolling Samoan Crash
Standing Moonsault
Standing Shooting Star Press
No-handed flip dive
Pumphandle Sidewalk Slam
Northern Lights Suplex
Moonsault
Double Jackhammer

Tatanka
Tomahawk Chop
The Indian Death Drop

Matt Hardy
Twist Of Fate

Drop shot
Splash Mountain (Crucifix Powerbomb)
Side-effect
Super Side Effect
Riccochet
Hardys Leg Drop
Megahertz

Gunner Scott
Crowbar (Fujiyara Armbar)

Brian Kendrick
Sliced Bread #2 (Shiranui)
Get Well Soon (with Paul London)

Electric Mayhem (Knee Smash off Top Rope)
Swinging DDT
Dr. Smoothe’s Secret Recipe (Corner Backflip Dropkick)
Whirling Twirlixer
Hurricanrana
Leg Lariat

Funaki
The Rising Sun (Tornado DDT)

Scotty to Hotty
The Worm

Booker T
The Bookend
The Scissors Kick

The Spinerooni
Houston Sidekick
Houston Hangover
Spinebuster
Missile Dropkick

Ken Kennedy
Kenton Bomb

Mark Henry
Vertical Splash

The Great Khali
Chop to the Head
Boot to the Head

Finlay
Emerald Fusion

Headlock Submission
Standing Leg Drop
Forward Roll

William Regal
The Regal Stretch
The Power Of The Punch

Double Underhook Powerbomb
Exploder Suplex
Neck Breaker
Regal Cutter
European Uppercut

Gregory Helms
Shining Wizard

Sugarsmack/Hurri-kick
Shining Apprentice
Top Rope Crossbody
The Overcast
The Eye Gouge
Sommersault Plancha
Crossface Halo
Flying Neckbreaker
Fireman's Carry Facebreaker
Shining Wizard Knee Strike
The "Shoulder Wrecker"
Super Huracanrana
The X-Plex (Cross-Armed German Suplex)

Kid Kash
The Dead Level

Jamie Noble
The Trailer Hitch

Simon Dean
Simonizer

Chris Masters
The MasterLock

John Bradshaw Leyfield
Clothesline From Hell
The Last Call (Fall Away Slam)

Chris Benoit
Crippler Crossface
The Sharpshooter

Rolling German Suplex
Dragon Suplex
Diving Headbutt
Snap Suplex
Open Hand Chop
Release German Suplex
Bridging German Suplex
Hooking Clothesline
Gutwrench Suplex

[OTBs Bill Parkman]

There was one other thing I noticed. Even though the roster for the WWE superstars are split between Brand #1 and Brand #2, they still work on all the shows. Any clue what's up with that?

[panix04]

There was one other thing I noticed. Even though the roster for the WWE superstars are split between Brand #1 and Brand #2, they still work on all the shows. Any clue what's up with that?

hmm..... didnt notice that - i dont generally play in the wwe! Maybe they need to be assingned a brand, i will check it out.

Thank you so, so much David. Thats given me a good platform to start from!

[Rkall]

Excellent work Panix and everyone who helped, I guess I have to hold up my end of the bargain and buy the game now lol. Probably do that tommorow. Can't wait to try it out!

[panix04]

i have been testing it tonight on rookie to legend mode and it is superb!

[OTBs Bill Parkman]

Going off of tnawrestling.com and obsessedwithwrestling.com, here's the official TNA roster and their trademark moves:

A-1:
Finishing Move - Royal Flush Neckbreaker
Favorite Moves - Pump Handle Slam

Abyss:
Finishing Move - The Death Penalty (Miracle Exctasy Bomb), The Black Hole Slam (TNA)
Favorite Moves - Sit Argentine Backbreaker (Shock Treatment), Body Press Flapjack, Chokeslam, Spear

AJ Styles:
Finishing Moves - The Styles Clash, Super Styles Clash, The Spiral Tap
Favorite Moves - Shooting Styles Press, Running Snap Swinging Neckbreaker, Flying Squirrel, Spinning Crescent Kick, Enziguri, Springboard Crossbody, Stalling Brainbuster, German Face Bust, Starmaker (Side Backdrop Driver), Sickle Hold, Quebrada into Inverted DDT, Running Corner Backflip Dropkick,
Styles Suplex Special, Kip Up Hurricanrana, Spinning Clothesline, Spine Breaker, Thrust Kick, Cliffhanger(Crucifix into DDT), No Hands Sommersault Plancha, Superman(Springboard 450), Crash and Burn(with Air Paris), Backbreaker into Gutbuster, Rebound Dropkick, Suplex Lift to Neckbreaker, Phenomenon
Running Sommersault Senton, Low Roundhouse Kick, Pele Kick, Quebrada into Inverted DDT, Stylin' Crab, Air Raid Crash

Alex Shelley:
Finishing Moves -Border City Stretch, The Stretch Plum, Shellshock
(~Swinging Inverted Russian Legsweep), It Came From Japan
(~Straightjacket Northern Lights Bomb),It Came From Japan II
(~Cross Legged Brainbuster)
Favorite Moves -Yakuza Kick, Backdrop Suplex, Slingshot Legdrop, Springboard Tornado DDT, Walk Up Knee Strike, Backpack Stunner, Superkick, Piledriver, Scarecrow Submission, Top Rope Double Stomp to Head, Cutthroat Octopus,
Straight Jacket Lung Blower, Straight Jacket Neckbreaker, Bridging Straight Jacket Hold, Cross Knee Inverted Bulldog

Andy Douglas:
Nothing listed on obsessedwithwrestling.com move wise.

Austin Aries:
Finishing Moves - Rings of Saturn submission, 450 Splash, Macho Neck Snap
Favorite Moves - The Brainbuster, The Fishhook, No Hands lionsault, Tornado Plancha, Pendulum Elbow, Corkscrew Splash, Tornado Forearm, Diamond Buster

BG James
Finishing Moves - Shake, Rattle & Roll (as Jesse James), Pumphandle Drop
Favorite Moves - None listed.

Bobby Roode
Finishing Moves - The Rude Awakening and the Northern Lariat (clothesline from behind)
Favorite Moves - None listed.

Brother Devon
Finishing Moves - Dudley Death Drop a.k.a. Deadly Death Drop
Favorite Moves - Rope Hung Neckbreaker, "Waazuup" Headbutt

Brother Ray
Finishing Moves - Bubba Bomb (Sit down full nelson bomb), 3-D with Devon
Favorite Moves - Bubba Cutter (Diamond cutter), Powerbomb through the table, Full Nelson driver (Similiar to Jeff Jarrett's "The Stroke", if I am not mistaken)

Brother Runt
Finishing Moves - Dudley Dog aka Acid Drop
Favorite Moves - Flying Clothesline, Dropkick, Neckbreaker, Forearm Smash, Headbutt to Chest

Edit: Going to bed, will continue on when I wake up.

[Slim Jim]

Well there goes my weekend, damn you panix! :D

Great work, and I look forward to the moveset release, but I'm more than content with this in its current state. Now to decide, DOTT or 1RC, decisions, decisions...

[panix04]

good job posting these movesets! I have been busy at work entering them in, but if its possible, when you post them if its a trademark move, could you just put a brief description in for me! It just saves me having to hunt around to find out what the move is! This is quite a slow process by the way, but im going as quick as i can.

On a seperate note has anyone started a game on this yet? Im dying to get a bit of feedback, i played it for a good 3 hours on Friday and even without the trademark moves i was hooked!

[Krazibonez]

i am playing this with aj styles.

[Rkall]

I'm playing it a bit to Panix actually bought the game yesterday. So far its good just more getting use to the game. I'm playing Rookie to Legend and its very very tough at the beginning. But the data seems good, can't wait for more move pics and movesets, great job!

[HHUK]

Can you upload the new update to sendspace or rapidshare please? Megaupload sucks, can't even get the file off it at all.

[panix04]

sure, i will have to do it tommorow as i dont have the data on my home PC

[The Franchise]

I'm waiting patiently for the movesets to be finished before I download this scenario.

[TCP1]

Good work Panix, it's good to know that FORC is spreading from one game to another. Perhaps you could convert some of our other projects.

*Nudge nudge, wink, wink*

[panix04]

lets finish 'em first eh? Or atleast start them!

EDIT: Well there is good news and bad news concerning this mod! Firstly the bad news is you are going to have to wait a while for the completed data, the good news is i have ditched the idea of just doing WWE guys in favour of using wikipedia and obssesed with wrestling as a reference and im gonna try and do the majority of the database. I'm not sure weather to make the odd release so you all have something to play or to leave it till i am finished. However when it is released it will have a new screen/graphics pack with it which i have started on.

[metalmikey]

Odd release would be great to keep us occupied for a few.

[Vladamire Dracos]

lets finish 'em first eh? Or atleast start them!

EDIT: Well there is good news and bad news concerning this mod! Firstly the bad news is you are going to have to wait a while for the completed data, the good news is i have ditched the idea of just doing WWE guys in favour of using wikipedia and obssesed with wrestling as a reference and im gonna try and do the majority of the database. I'm not sure weather to make the odd release so you all have something to play or to leave it till i am finished. However when it is released it will have a new screen/graphics pack with it which i have started on.

Don't forget http://www.deathvalleydriver.com/bbbowm/bbbowm.htm it's an invaluable source for moves and description of moves, it even lists wrestler's signature moves, albeit a little outdated.

[panix04]

that will probably help for workers who have finishing moves with no explanation. This is gonna take a long time mind you, i have about 12 done at the moment! Oh well, when im finished this mod well hopefully be as playable as DOTT - well i can dream cant i?

[TCP1]

that will probably help for workers who have finishing moves with no explanation. This is gonna take a long time mind you, i have about 12 done at the moment! Oh well, when im finished this mod well hopefully be as playable as DOTT - well i can dream cant i?

Don't give up panix, I believe in you!

[panix04]

ok people, there are plenty of people who want to see this happen and doing it all by myself is going to take a long, long time. Now basically there are 1400 + workers and we want a moveset for as many of them as possible right? What i am suggesting is that i get a group of us together and everyone takes a couple of letters and then has a couple of weeks to do as many of the movesets for people who's name begins with those letter as possible. If everyone who wants to see the mod with movesets for most of the workers chips in it could literally be done in a couple of weeks! Now at the moment i have one person helping me out (thank you shocking stuff, your a ledge) with 2 people working on it, it is going to be a long time before you have a real life mod with proper movesets, but if some of you can spare a bit of time than please volunteer! Remember many hands make light work! Just look at how good TCP's original mod was when people chipped in and helped. Come on people, lets get this mod done!

On a side note if you can help out i will go through with you the system im using to create movesets.

[diabolic.angel]

What are the promotions that you have for this mod anyhow?

[panix04]

i wont list them all 'cos there is 47 but it has all the top feds TNA, ROH, WWE etc. plus loads of indy promotions and lots of japanese feds as well, the only area that is really lacking is the canadian scene.

[Ransik]

Tell me what you need done and I'll see if I can help out.

[Vladamire Dracos]

Well, as Ollie seems to have dropped off the planet, I'll be happy to supply you with my CV Move Data conversion. I'd honestly be done with it by now if I hadn't bought the game Monday and wanted to actually play it for a little bit. ;) I intended to create blocks of moves based off the BBOWM after I finished the conversion that could be imported into it that would've been exclusive to Ollie's data, but with him being seemingly gone, I'll offer that to you as well. I'll even do moves on commission, if you have a list of them that need made. I think I have a fairly strong grasp of how moves work now.

Regarding Movesets, I'm pretty sure they can't be imported. Perhaps start a "ORC Official Moveset Thread" thread? Save this thread for non-moveset related posting?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Vlad's right - move sets can not be imported into a central database. That basically has to be a one man job.

[panix04]

damn, just tried the moveset importing thing and it cant be done! I guess that stands to reason really, it would probably cause problems if you tried imprting movesets that didnt have the appropriate moves made for them. This leaves me with a dilemna on what approach to take. Firstly i dont think i am going to be able to use your data Vladamire, at the moment all the workers are linked to a generic moveset and i have been told not to overwrite the moves/movesets in the folder as this can cause problems. I know you have put a lot of work in that i probably cant use (unless you see a way that we could use it?) if we cant use it though i would still really appreciate your assistance with finishing the mod. This is my idea with how to proceed. We all work off one central database, as in the files i have at the moment. There are 3 people who have offered to help, 4 if i include you vlad. I was thinking we take it in turns to enter movesets for workers, we each keep the current data for 3 days and try to do as many as we can in that time. If you aim to cover one letter i.e all the people whos name begins with A. before you pass it on the project will take less than 3 months and because the is 4 of us working on it essentially you spend 3 days modding than you have 9 days break so it doesn't seem like such a chore! Shocking stuff has the data at the moment and is working from Z-A so if he emails the files to the next person in a couple of days we can start the ball rolling. What do you guys think? If anyone has alternative ideas i am open to them!

[Vladamire Dracos]

Easy enough problem to fix, as I have kept very detailed notes on the changes I made on my own data, It is pretty much the same thing you did with ORC's move data, except I renamed some of the CV signature moves that had real life counterparts with generic names (and descriptions when needed). I also renamed a couple of normal moves for easier reference or taste (Backbreaker to Over The Knee Backbreaker, the Madman moves to Cactus moves) and took a bunch of CV signature Finisher level moves that that lower level generic counterparts (like Powerbomb or DDT) and created a pair of generic sets called "Mainevent" (after Mainevent Sleeper) and "Devastating" so these moves could be copied to make Finishers by Mod creatiors (Devastating Powerbomb can be used to make Jackknife Powerbomb, for example) and so players would have more choices on Finisher level moves for RtL characters. It'd be easy enough to Import the data I've edited while deleting any of the CV data out of ORC's move data that remains (like Vanity Bonfire) when I have it.

And yes, I'd be pleased to help with the movesets as well. Just sign me up to be next in line to get it (you can mail it to: Steelabjur{AT}AOL{DOT}com) so I can do the converting before too many movesets are made. it'd probably be good to CC the data back to you, Panix, as we ship it between us, so if anything happens while one of us have it, all our work isn't lost to the void. It'd probably be good to still have a thread dedicated to our moveset work too, so those interested can see what we've added/finished and give advice/suggestions on it. Keep the community feeling like they're helping even if they can't do stats or movesets or the like themselves for whatever reason.

[panix04]

your a legend Vlad! I will make sure shocking stuff emails you the files when hes finished his 'stint' i really think the rotation idea will make the whole process less of a drag. And i really believe we can get this done within 2 or 3 months, by which time my wrespi2 screens should be done!

[Vladamire Dracos]

Null Sweat Chummer! :) Oh, and are you looking for any move pics while I wait? I can hit up some sites I know of and see what I can dig up for ya.

[panix04]

yeah, are you on messenger? I can send across all the picks i have and you can see what is left. Theres only about 50 more move pics i need.

[Vladamire Dracos]

Afraid I don't use those types of things often, I have AIM (name same as the e-Mail) but I rarely use it. If you PM me a list of pics you need and your E-Mail addy, I could see what I can turn up. If that doesn't cut it for you and we have to use IMs, hit me up on AIM.

[TCP1]

http://luchawiki.com/?title=Main_Page - For Luchas.

http://www.puroresufan.com/ - For Japanese workers.

Hope that helps?

[panix04]

it sure does, you are the man TCP! As for a list of move pics needed i will get it off to ya asap, the bad news is that shocing stuff may not be able to help out with the movesets after all, he is finding it all a little bit complicated

[Shocking_Stuff]

I'm sorry I'm retarded...
:(
I'm still doing stuff to help
:D

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=126929#post126929

[Vladamire Dracos]

Well then, send me the files if Shocking isn't making movesets and I'll do #-A, unless I misunderstood Shocking's last post, in which case let me know if you need any moves created, and I'll create them for you to import. :) and get me that list o' Moves that need pics! ;)

[Shocking_Stuff]

Well then, send me the files if Shocking isn't making movesets and I'll do #-A, unless I misunderstood Shocking's last post, in which case let me know if you need any moves created, and I'll create them for you to import. :) and get me that list o' Moves that need pics! ;)

I'm gonna do research... post it here, and you guys can make em.
So, then you can just make make make...
instead of make look up make look up make

There is just so many things I'm not sure about, and I think it's counter productive if i'm constantly stopping to ask panix for help.

[codey]

One thing I've noticed is that you haven't added PWG to it, and that's one of the major indy promotions in America right now. Are you planning on adding it later?

[panix04]

probably not, this is a conversion and they wern't in the original data. If i was to add any feds i would probably beef up the canadian scene. But as the data stands if i added any more to it the loading times would start getting silly.

[codey]

Makes sense. I'll probably just take out a womens promotion and add PWG on my own.

[panix04]

just to wet your apetite and perhaps drum up a bit of excitement, here is a screen shot for ORC

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/panix_uk04/screenie-2.jpg

[TCP1]

just to wet your apetite and perhaps drum up a bit of excitement, here is a screen shot for ORC

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/panix_uk04/screenie-2.jpg

That looks awesome Panix!

Still, The Rock? Really? Surely John Cena would make more sense. :)

Damn you, I might just have to buy this game to play that mod!

I hate you.

[panix04]

he he, I may use Cena in league mode, but he is a little way down the list behind Stone Cold, Foley, Hogan, Taker, Steven Richard, Mae young... yeah you do have a point, i know Cena is more 'current' but i think Rocky has had a more profound impact on wrestling in the past decade then Cena will ever have. I wanted to use real lifes equivilant of Tommy Cornell and tbh i think the rock fits that description best.

[Sensai of Mattitude]

John Cena? I prsonally think that, if you want a younger, more 'current 'superstar, Randy Orton would be a wiser choice than John Cena.

[panix04]

:) if i had a penny for everytime there was a Cena Vs. Orton argument on these forums i would be a very wealthy man!

[nimo34]

I would suggest Stone Cold since he had an equal impact on the wrestling world to Rocky, and he is more active in the current wrestling world.

[panix04]

seeing as there are essentially 3 different modes in essense - world league, proffesional league and superstar/RTL i will be using a different star for each one. I have already settled on the rock for RTL mode but im yet to decide on who gets the nod on the other 2 modes. It may well come down to who i can find a decent picture of! So if you wanna see a particular star, please post some pics of them for me!

[nimo34]

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/f/fredottman/06.jpg

This would be BAD ASS, not to make fun of the Tug Boat or anything.

[panix04]

lol, not really fitting for a 2006 mod though is it?

[nimo34]

It's the god damn Shockmaster, he is fitting for any mod. Actually I'll try to find a pic of Angle.

EDIT: http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/WWE_Album/Images/AngleKurt2.JPG

[codey]

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/-/Stone-Cold-Steve-Austin-Poster-C10106282.jpeg

Steve Austin absolutely deserves to be included in one of the two remaining screens.

[panix04]

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/-/Stone-Cold-Steve-Austin-Poster-C10106282.jpeg

Steve Austin absolutely deserves to be included in one of the two remaining screens.
couldn't agree with you more Codey and Angle is a very tempting choice as well, i did want to put in Mick Foley 'cos he's my favourite. Perhaps he can make an appearence on the editor section, i seem to spend most of my time in that part of the game anyway!

[fatallylost]

Not to be the one to go off, but, how about a non-wwe'er? Maybe like a CM Punk (ok, well, technically, he's not wrestled for them on TV yet) Raven, Tommy Dreamer (both ECW days perhaps), AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels. I dunno, someone else who's popular enough for peopel to know.

[panix04]

thats ok fatally, your more than welcome to voice your opinion, but what you have to understand is that i want the people included on the main screen to represent icons of wrestling, people that make you say "they helped shape wrestling into what it is today" and CM Punk really doesnt come into that category, my dad likes wrestling and he wouldn't even know who AJ and Christopher Daniels are and whilst Raven was (and maybe still is) awesome he never made it in the biggest federation in wrestling. I know you think my choices are a little bit WWE orientated, but lets be honest, they are huge! Far bigger than TNA or ROH or whoever. The top stars from those feds will be represented in the screen mod they just will not be the forefront!

[Sartagis]

May I suggest: Angle, Austin, Mysterio, Taker, Flair, HHH, Chono, Kobashi, Liger, Jarrett, Sting, Misawa, Kojima, Booker T

That way you have Angle, Mysterio, Taker, HHH, Booker representing WWE, Chono, Liger Representing NJPW, Kobashi and Misawa representing NOAH/AJPW and Kojima representing AJPW/NJPW or look at it as all of them representing Puro in general, Jarrett and Sting representing TNA (also Sting and Booker kinda WCW) then you have Austin, Taker and Flair representing WWE but also WCW and just older school wrestlers in General. All are pretty well known and big contributers in some way or another to Wrestling.

Though thats far more then ya need. Maybe include several on each page or something.

[sphanlon]

Samoa Joe, anyone?

[nimo34]

Lex Luger doing his botched promo, anyone? I'M PISSED NOW!!!!!! Also I really suggest Jushin Liger, becuase he Chono, and Mutoh are the biggest Puro wrestlers and I think Liger is more of a modern face.

[darthsiddus2]

Liger is a God in Japan. if you want someone to represent Japan I'd say take Liger. if thats not your cup of tea, Take Mistuharu Misawa, Jun Akiyama, Kenta Kobashi or Taka Michinoku. those guys revolutionized Japan.

[nimo34]

I'd also recommend Keiji Mutoh and Yuji Nagata if you want revolutionary players in the Japanese scene.

[panix04]

thank you for the suggestions everybody, but unless people send me pic's of these people i am going to stick with Angle, Austin and the Rock - there are only 3 slots to fill but if you have any large high quality pics you want to see in the game send them on and i will use them as background pics - the 3 slots are foreground pics.

On a seperate note, how have you been getting on over the weekend Vlad?

[fatallylost]

thats ok fatally, your more than welcome to voice your opinion, but what you have to understand is that i want the people included on the main screen to represent icons of wrestling, people that make you say "they helped shape wrestling into what it is today" and CM Punk really doesnt come into that category, my dad likes wrestling and he wouldn't even know who AJ and Christopher Daniels are and whilst Raven was (and maybe still is) awesome he never made it in the biggest federation in wrestling. I know you think my choices are a little bit WWE orientated, but lets be honest, they are huge! Far bigger than TNA or ROH or whoever. The top stars from those feds will be represented in the screen mod they just will not be the forefront!

OK, I guess I get that. I didn't know that you were going for that kind of meaning in the screens. I just thought it had to do with semi-current popular guys and stuff.

But, I would also throw in someone like a Flair, Hogan, Sting, maybe even as far as a Nash or HBK / HHH... but, it's no biggy to me. If I get bored enough, I might make my own, since I kinda learned some new tricks... but, I'm all for what'cher doin p-man.

[panix04]

P-man? I kinda like that, its far better than queen Panix anyway!

[Vladamire Dracos]

On a seperate note, how have you been getting on over the weekend Vlad?

I created the moves:

Musasabi press
DQ Bomb
I Am Taue
Dynamic Bomb
Dynamic Kick
Dynamic Suplex
Crown Head Chop
Death Brand
Death Landing
Sickle of Death
Zero-sen Kick
Knee-Bend Push Hold
Hip-toss into Cradle
Abdominal Stretch Inside Cradle
One Night Stand
Check Up From The Neck Up
Shanesation Kick
Border City Stretch
Shellshock (Two versions)
Shiranui (aka Sliced Bread #2)
Total Nonstop Alex (Taunt. AKA The Skull F...)
2K1 Bomb
It Came From Japan
Backpack Stunner
Hammerlock DDT
Testicular claw
Alek Lock I
Alek Lock II
Suisha Otoshi
Shimmering Warlock
Lovelace Choker
Curb Kick

Almost all signature moves. I'm about to Lita (Amy Dumas). Didn't work as extensively on the in-game side of things as I was hardcore hunting down move lists for the A list wrestlers to use for the movesets (and found them for every wrestler I could hope to :)), but it shouldn't be hard to create them now that I have almost 2/3 of the signature moves entered in the database. I have to pull a double at work tomorrow, so I won't be able to work on the data until later that night,but I hope to have it wrapped up and out to you early Tuesday morning with all the A List complete! :)

[panix04]

good work Vlad! I just wish i could get things done as quick as you! I dont suppose there are any other people who understand how movesets/moves work who want to chip in are there?

[Vladamire Dracos]

It's not hard. I just take the default moveset that they're currently assigned in the data and make a copy (unless I feel there is a better one they should have, like some of the hardcore guys like Axl Rotten have their Default set as "Brawler" rather than "Hardcore") and add their signature moves. I only create moves if the wrestler has a name for the move, it's a finisher or if it' normal move not in the database. Sometimes I remove moves I feel that the wrestler shouldn't have (big former Sumo wrestler Akebono=No Kicks). Takes me about 5-10 minutes per set for an average size set.

In other news I ran a few matches with the CPU in control of the fighters using the new movesets and I have to say I liked what I saw. MOTN was Adam Flash vs. Abyss, Hardcore match. Abyss controlled the first few minutes by brawling around the ring, but Flash slipped out of a mounted punch flurry and hit some kicks for the mid part of the match. The finish saw Flash miss a senton, Abyss go to the outside for a chair, but get dropkicked for his trouble, Flash gets him in the ring and whips Abyss to the corner for another Dropkick only to get his ticket punched with a Big Boot. Abyss followed up with a Field Goal Low Blow that led to the Shock Treatment and the pin at 13:24. Fun match.

[panix04]

that is a pretty good method you are using for creating the moveset, but it may be worth using the generate a movest function to give th workers there base moves, it will add more variety to the movesets and i doubt it will add a huge amount of time to the process. Are you familiar with the create a moveset function?

[Vladamire Dracos]

that is a pretty good method you are using for creating the moveset, but it may be worth using the generate a movest function to give th workers there base moves, it will add more variety to the movesets and i doubt it will add a huge amount of time to the process. Are you familiar with the create a moveset function?

Yeah, I've used it a number of times in RtL games. I'd probably use it for guys like RVD or Atsushi Onita, guys who blend two styles of wrestling into something unique. I really don't see the value of using it for guys who stick to one style though, as I feel having more moves than they actually use is better than missing a common move they regularly pull out in a match but isn't considered a signature move, ya know? Besides, in most cases, the wrestlers have plenty of signature moves to call on that make them feel unique.

[panix04]

i think the useful thing about the feature is that you can call on it to sort by region, EG if you have a mexican brawler you can set up a brawler moveset made up of just mexican brawler moves - if that makes sense? But im sure with me doing the movesets my way and you using your method we will get a vast array of different moves. When you are ready to hand over the files please send them to panix_uk04@yahoo.co.uk

Incidentally for people following the progress i found a load more movepictures today. And the move pictures section is almost finished. Plus i have been pushing ahead with the 'new screen mod' this is about 10% complete.

[Vladamire Dracos]

YGM Panix! :D I didn't set the move sets to the workers yet though, just a heads up.

[panix04]

um, slightly confusing post ther Vlad, what does YGM mean? And what do you mean when you say you didnt set the move sets to the workers?

[Vladamire Dracos]

um, slightly confusing post ther Vlad, what does YGM mean? And what do you mean when you say you didnt set the move sets to the workers?

YGM: Internet short hand for You Got Mail. I had just sent you the data back and I was making sure you knew it. ;)

Didn't set the move sets: Most of the wrestlers in the data are still set to having a Default move set rather than the custom one I created. You'll have to fix that at some point.

Oh! And I forgot to make a move set for AJ Styles, of all people. I'll make one for him next time I get the data if you want, or you or whoever gets the data next could make it, whatever. :)

[panix04]

okey doke, i got cracking on the b's last night and i finished the grand total of 8! yipee! I assigned all the movesets you had made though, good job btw Vlad. With your help this mod is going to be very, very good! Just for the sake of saving a bit of time though, do you think you could give the workers there movesets as you go? Thanks mate!

Edit: Progress report i am pushing on through the B's, i have got as far as Goldberg, I'm getting quicker now but im still having a hard time finind movesets for Mexican/Japanese workers. I tried Lucha Wiki but its not that in-depth any decent website suggestions would be useful!

[Vladamire Dracos]

How about an update Panix?

For Japanese workers try:
http://www.geocities.com/jpuroresu/
http://www.puroresufan.com/ (and it's Affiliates)

Can't offer anything better than Luchawiki for Mexican's though, which is why I wasn't able to do many of them.

[panix04]

i managed to get a little bit done over the weekend, off the top of my head i think i got as far as BlackJack Lanza. This is a lot slower than i imagined but i guess we haven't set a deadline so it does not really matter how long it takes. I'm slightly worried about time constraits in september as im starting my degree course. But i guess we will deal with that when we get there!

[Vladamire Dracos]

http://members.aol.com/piratez4v3go2/nwawsmoves.htm
Another good move site.
http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=45332
A good thread about moves.

[.SVA]

THis is'nt dead, right? Ot are you just to busy to update regularly?

Also, remember to add the Fingerpoke Of Doom to Hogan's moveset.

[panix04]

nope its not dead! Its just quite a slow process with just 2 people working on it! Im almost finished the B named workers and will be hopefully emailing the data back to vlad in the next couple of days. I know there are people who would like to see me work faster, but im looking for a new job at the moment and i am trying to sort out my OU course so i have quite a bit on my plate. But be patient this is my number 1 priority and this mod will happen!

[weirdo_man]

You should just give all of the workers who aren't a C overness or better in at least one area a default moveset, give some of the more well known names of C or less finishers, and then call it quits so I can play this already :p

[.SVA]

nope its not dead! Its just quite a slow process with just 2 people working on it! Im almost finished the B named workers and will be hopefully emailing the data back to vlad in the next couple of days. I know there are people who would like to see me work faster, but im looking for a new job at the moment and i am trying to sort out my OU course so i have quite a bit on my plate. But be patient this is my number 1 priority and this mod will happen!

Great to hear! Good luck!

[panix04]

You should just give all of the workers who aren't a C overness or better in at least one area a default moveset, give some of the more well known names of C or less finishers, and then call it quits so I can play this already :p
Sorry to dis-appony you WM, but i would rather do as many movesets as possible or not bother at all!:) I dont want this to be just another wrespi real world mod that flatters to decieve i want it to be in the same league as DOTT (which i have played a lot and is awesome!) So when Vlad and i have ploughed through and done movesets for every worker we can find info on thats when we will release it! But if you want to help out with the movesets it may hurry the process along! ;)

[Vladamire Dracos]

Groovy. I'll start looking up our "C" starters later tonight and maybe kick out some moves that I'll need for them so I'll be prepared and hopefully get through these quicker than the last batch I did. :)

Regarding something you said earllier about no being able to work on this after a certain date. If we don't get the movesets done by then this way, we should post what we have as a beta and I'd be happy to take over and do the remainder myself. That way those still eager to get their hands on our rough draft at that point can, and it'll still get done.

After that I'd like to do some clean up work done on the movesets, just a couple of tweaks here and there to get the moves and workers in line with reality a bit, nothing major. Turning it out to the public to beta test will help a great deal at that point, as to tell the truth, I've seen very little of wrestling outside of WWF/E, WCW, AWA, ECW, AAA, CMLL, and TNA. So the advice of fans of those wrestlers and promotions that fall outside of that area (or inside for that matter, I'm no expert on wrestling in any regard! :)) would be very welcome!

After that I'm hoping to draw together the required pics to replace the defaults, so that each move in the database will have it own (or at least the very least number of pics will be shared among moves) so as to make the conversion feel that more complete! :)

Personally, Panix, in the end I'd like our little conversion project to be known as the "Modern Era" equivelent of DOTT (which indeed is awesome, and D. Boone and company deserve massive kudos for their dedication and hard work).
I never do anything halfway once i've dedicated myself to it, hope you don't mind. :)

[panix04]

it's not so much that i won't be able to work on the mod after september just that i won't have much spare time, i still intend on staying with the project - right to the end! I am glad that you are keen though Vlad, i would definatly consider this a joint project now. As for the move pictures i agree completely that we should try to get a good selection. Anyway, thanks again Vlad, your an inspiration with your positivity!

[JWideman]

Might be a good idea at this point to expand the size of the team, Panix.

[panix04]

:) i have tried JW! But no-one wants to help - im open to offers people!

[Ransik]

Well I offered to help but no one ever got back to me. lol

If you want to send me a list of moves to do I can get them done for ya since you can only import moves and not movesets.

[panix04]

sorry Ransik, your offer for help must have got lost somewhere in the billions of posts i read! :) but believe me your help would be really apreciated. If you want to you can join mine and vlads exchange system. What we are doing is taking it in turns to do a section of he databases movesets (EG Vlad done all workers beggining with A, im doing all of them beggining with D Etc. If you dont mind helping out with this give me your email addy and i will get Vlad to email you the files when he finished the C workers.

[Ransik]

Well you could always just gimme a list of people to work on, and I can do the moves for those people, and then I could just send the files to one of you to put all the moves in the moveset. That way more than one person is working on it at a time. But the e-mail is in your PM.

[panix04]

Just a quick update: I finally finished assigning movesets to workers who's names begin with B! I know it took a long, long time but Vlad has the files now and i shouldn't think it will take him long to knock out the C-section! Then hopefully Ransik can make a start on the D'S. Anyway we have about 100 movesets done now so it is beggening to come together.

[gazdaman]

i'll help if you want panix

[panix04]

the more the merrier, send me your email addy and i will pass it onto Ransik you can do the wrestlers beggening with E, if thats ok? It may take a week or two before you can start though.

[Nevermore]

Hey mate, just checked it out and 'tis awesome. One thing, though, which is pretty important in my view (probably trivial to everyone else). Nate Hatred, one of my favourite indie guys and a CZW mainstay, is not in the database. I noticed he wasn't in ORC for TEW either.

Now, my access to CZW has been removed as The Wrestling Channel have stopped broadcasting. So, there may well be a good reason for him not being there that I've missed. Could someone please be a legend and let me know whether this omission was intentional?

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

[panix04]

once all the movesets are complete i will release a beta version and people can let me know if there are any people missing/at the wrong fed etc. Then once the tweaks have been made it will be released with a full move/picture/screen pack - hopefully! :) So keep watching nevermore and let me know at the end.

[Nevermore]

Fair enough dude. Please don't feel like I'm rushing you 'cos I can only imagine the workload involved.

BTW. from the amount I've played it so far, it seems awesome - good job.

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

[panix04]

he he, im used to being rushed, one of the perks of being married! But i don't have the data at the moment. Vlad is working on it. Whilst im on the subject how are you getting on Vlad?

[Vladamire Dracos]

Well, now that I know I have the data (I don't check my E-Mail very often, so you'll have to drop me a PM or post it or something, otherwise I might miss the fact for a couple of days ;)) I'll start right to work on it!

On a completely unrelated note, my birthday was on the 2nd! :D

[codey]

Happy birthday, then! Maybe now that you're older you can do an even better job.

[panix04]

hey, hey, hey - he was doing a stellar job as it is! Happy birthday dude. Have yourself a drink on me (i will give you the cash next time we meet! :D)

[codey]

Just checking in to see how the movesets are coming.

[Shocking_Stuff]

Is one to assume his help is no longer required for the moveset research, as noone replied when they were asked where they were upto?

I'm still willing to help with researching sig/finish moves, but I'm not covering one that have already been done and then being told 'we have that one done already'... waste of everyone's time and my efforts would be best served covering one's yet to be done.

[panix04]

thank you for your help Shocking but i find flicking between Wikipedia and Obssesed with wrestling the best method of getting the movesets done - all the moves have descriptions on wiki which is really helpful. Once the movesets are done you could be of help with updating rosters and the like. How are the C named wrestlers coming along Vlad? Haven't heard from ya in a while.

[buff_man]

just downloaded the orc mod and installed it. when i try to play it on the second day it says theres a run time error 52, this has never happened before has only happened since i downloaded the mod was wanderin if anyone else has had this problem

[panix04]

i cant say i have had that, have you posted in the tech support forum? Also do you have the latest patch installed may be an issue that has already been fixed

[buff_man]

problem fixed lol

[Vladamire Dracos]

Sorry between my birthday, some housework that had piled up, and copying down data I'll need for the movesets I'll have to create, I haven't been checking the boards that often. I AM working on it though, so no worries! :) Just A LOT of well known/popular guys have names that start with C (Benoit, Jericho, Hero, Daniels, etc. etc.) and I want to make sure I get them proper like. ;) Hopefully I'll get to actually making the movesets later tonight and have something worthy of reporting!

[panix04]

ahh, good lad! Have you been playtesting as you go? Its looking pretty good atm and thats with just a's and b's done!

[MrKain]

I have GOT to get this when it's finished. :)


Sorry... I'm just a big time lurker. I've posted maybe like 6 posts in my lifetime here. lol But I had to make a comment. :)

[Vladamire Dracos]

ahh, good lad! Have you been playtesting as you go? Its looking pretty good atm and thats with just a's and b's done!

Yeah, I have. I'm particularly pleased with how Adam Flash and Abyss turned out. I think Lita (Amy Dumas) turned out pretty good too. I haven't tried any of my C listers yet though, waiting to get all the Chris' done. :P Chris Hero vs. Chris Benoit, anyone? Jericho vs. Daniels, maybe? ;)

[Mastah Ace]

Do you guys still need wrestlers movesets or are you pretty much set for everybody because I think I could add a few more peolpe if you'd like.

[panix04]

i can add you too the list of people who are helping and you can do a letter if you want, if you dont have much time you can go for one of the less common letters such as Y. Although you will have to wait for Vlad to finish the C-names workers first.

[Ransik]

I still think it would be a hell of a lot quicker if you just sent out a list of about 40-50 workers to each person who wants to help so they can do all the moves for that person that needs to be done so either you or Vlad can import them into the game and make the movelists because to be honest at this rate I don't honestly believe it'll ever get done.

[Mastah Ace]

Sure that'd be cool. And Ransik's idea is pretty good also.

[WeeMan]

I've gotta ask You...
Where can I find the pics of the real wrestlers, and a working link to the moves pics? Because I've downloaded this awesome mod, but I don't have any pics... Sorry for the newbie question.

[JWideman]

I still think it would be a hell of a lot quicker if you just sent out a list of about 40-50 workers to each person who wants to help so they can do all the moves for that person that needs to be done so either you or Vlad can import them into the game and make the movelists because to be honest at this rate I don't honestly believe it'll ever get done.

You can't import movesets, so that wouldn't really help.

[Ransik]

I know that, but other people could do the moves for the wrestlers so they could be imported and either panix or Vlad could make the movesets after importing the moves.

[WeeMan]

I've gotta ask You...
Where can I find the pics of the real wrestlers, and a working link to the moves pics? Because I've downloaded this awesome mod, but I don't have any pics... Sorry for the newbie question.

Please, help me with it...

[JWideman]

I know that, but other people could do the moves for the wrestlers so they could be imported and either panix or Vlad could make the movesets after importing the moves.

That's basically what they are doing now. There are very few moves that need to be created.

[panix04]

JW is right, most of the moves are there apart from trademark moves and generally thats just a case of copying a re-naming (would you believe a book-end and a rock bottom are the same thing?) as for saying its not going to happen, well i have played the curret version and tbh, it is good fun as it is without the custom movesets. When i passed the data over to Vlad we had about 80 movesets done on a database with aprrox 1400 workers (some of these are staff) now bare in mind the cornelleverse database is a similar size to this and i believe that only has 150 movesets. So in summary i think its fair to say that even if we were to release what was done so far it would make for a good playing experience. I know its difficult to be patient waiting for this, but i cannot see a new wrespi game coming out for atleast a year, so just bare with us and when we are finished you will not be able to put the game down.

~Incidentally the thing im looking forward to most is when the movesets are finished sitting down and changing the rosters. Thats gonna be good fun!

[Torquemada]

Well, I really love what I'm seeing so far. There are a lot of federations to work for and there's a lot of fun to be had even in beta, so I'm good for now. :)

[panix04]

Hiya Vlad, hows it coming along there? You almost finished with the C-listers? Is there any takers to do the movesets for people who's name begins with D, or am i gonna have to do them? (not that i mind - its quite an educational experience)

[weirdo_man]

Do you guys think I could get the data? I think I'm going to do my special dynasty idea regardless of whether or not anyone wants to read it :p

[panix04]

I still havn't heard from Vlad. so i may just make a start on the C-named wrestlers myself.

[panix04]

still havent heard from Vlad so im starting work on this myself as of tommorow, its gonna be a painstaikingly slow process doing it by myself but i reckon a Christmas beta is not out of the question, then people will be able to point out any faults with the moves and with your help we can update the roster, then a full release in january/februaryto include a good number of move pictures and a full screenmod. These dates are all very much tentative, i guess it largely depends on demand, if there are tons of people who really want this mod done then i will knuckle down and try and get it done, but if theres only 3 people who want it im going to plod along with it.

[weirdo_man]

I'm a professional wrestler. Doesn't that mean I count as more than 1 person? :p

[D. Boon's Ghost]

I'm a professional wrestler. Doesn't that mean I count as more than 1 person? :p

Only in certain parts of Thailand. ;)

[Vardamir]

still havent heard from Vlad so im starting work on this myself as of tommorow, its gonna be a painstaikingly slow process doing it by myself but i reckon a Christmas beta is not out of the question, then people will be able to point out any faults with the moves and with your help we can update the roster, then a full release in january/februaryto include a good number of move pictures and a full screenmod. These dates are all very much tentative, i guess it largely depends on demand, if there are tons of people who really want this mod done then i will knuckle down and try and get it done, but if theres only 3 people who want it im going to plod along with it.

I'm desperately waiting for it since the game came out! ;)

I mean, DOTT is awesome and I'm having a great time playing as a young Keiichi Yamada on his path to becoming the one and only Liger, as Ric Flair following the road that makes him a living legend and more recently, after changing the starting date and making a few modifications, as a rookie Chris Jericho trying to break into the wrestling scene in Canada. Can't compliment it enough, it's a fantastic mod!

But I'm also extremely anxious to be able to play a contemporary data, picking some of my current favourite wrestlers, like Samoa Joe, Paul London or Alex Shelley and to be able to face all the big names. I'm also anticipating creating a rookie and making him work hard through the low ranks in the indie scene to get him to a ROH, a TNA or maybe even a WWE or trying my luck in Japan. Thanks for doing this, Panix, hope it all goes well, I'm here waiting for the day it comes out.

[panix04]

Ok, for anyone interested in helping out i need someone to do the movesets for all the workers whose name begins with M, there are a lot of workers in this category so it might take you a couple of weeks, any takers, if you want to do it make sure you are willing to put the effort in - no time wasters please! The advantages are that you get a copy of the data with a 100+ movesets included. Like i said though please only apply if you are serious!

[Ransik]

Well I'm still up for giving it a shot... but I duno how useful I can really be since I'm really only familiar with American wrestling.

[panix04]

the method i use is to search for the guy on Wikipedia, if they dont have a worker - dont include them, i dont think anyone is going to expect a moveset for every single worker. I will send you the data tonight and if you want i will include a small tutorial on how i go about creating a moveset, there are quite a few wrestlers in this section, roughly how long do you want to do it? Will 2 weeks be ok? Or would you prefer 3? Sorry to be a bit demanding i just really want to get movesets done before Christmas.

[Ransik]

I dunno, how ever long you wanna give me.

[Ransik]

Ummm, ever gonna send it? lol

[TCP1]

How's this coming along?

[panix04]

Ummm, ever gonna send it? lol

I haven't got your email addy, could you pm me your email and i will send it when i get off my hols.

its coming along TCP, i have done quite a few whilst i have been on holiday, but shamelessly i done a lot of testing as well, man this game is fun!

[Ransik]

Well I bought a new computer today.

I uninstalled both TEW 2005 and WrestleSpi2 on the old one... then I deleted the programs and formatted the hard drive. I then reinstalled them on the new computer but my licenses will not install. I already sent Tim 2 e-mails cause I discovered both won't relicense after different times... so when this is resolved I will start working on the data.

[Ransik]

Ok everything is up and running correctly.

I'm a wee bit confused panix. You said you wanted me to start on the Ms but shouldn't I be starting with the Cs since they don't have movesets?

Edit: Since it was suggested I do this a while ago, I'm gonna add in the small Indy I work for along with the roster first until I know if you meant the Cs and not the Ms. This way there's a good, small compnay for people to start in.

[panix04]

yeah, the C's are not done yet, but there are a hell of a lot of M's - it is the biggest group and i thought i would work my way through and the biggest ones first.

[weirdo_man]

Ok everything is up and running correctly.

I'm a wee bit confused panix. You said you wanted me to start on the Ms but shouldn't I be starting with the Cs since they don't have movesets?

Edit: Since it was suggested I do this a while ago, I'm gonna add in the small Indy I work for along with the roster first until I know if you meant the Cs and not the Ms. This way there's a good, small compnay for people to start in.

The thing is, Ransik, that there are probably around a hundred, if not way more, small indy feds. I was looking at a website the other day and there are more than 10 indy feds in Texas alone with wrestlers that no one has ever heard of. There are like 6 in Indiana and around 8 in Ohio. So if we actually added all of those in...

Well the game would be ridiculously large.

[Ransik]

Well I'm just adding them in so an unknown worker has somewhere to go when they start their careers.

It's not taking me very long anyways, I should be done the entire company by the end of the night and working on the Ms before I go to sleep.

[Ransik]

An update;

The following workers have been added;

-Spud McKenzie
-Aaron Fire
-Victor Adams
-Jaba King
-Austin Wyld
-Venom
-The Boss
-The Separatist
-AJ Storm
-The Buzzard
-Dougie Fresh
-Eclypse
-Josh Knight
-Sneaky Pete
-Parker
-Sack
-Jackyl

The ETWA has been added, all belts, events... etc.

I should be able to get the movelists done before I go to work so I can start working on the Ms when I get home.

[weirdo_man]

Where's the ETWA based IRL?

[Ransik]

Shows are run in Vermont and Quebec.

Grrr... had to take care of some things so I'm not done all the ETWA move lists but they'll get done tonight, that's my mission. lol

And hey I've done a lot more in less than a day than I thought I would.

[weirdo_man]

Might I suggest creating a tiny promotion in the USA so that we yanks can have a small place to start? :p

[panix04]

i like the fact you are putting in a small canadian fed, Canada is definatly an area somewhat lacking in this mod, but do you have worker pic's for the people you have added?

[Ransik]

Actually I've put the ETWA in the US in New England because in the last 3 years there has only been 3 shows in Canada. Ever since my trainer passed away we've only been having shows in the US unless we're asked to go somewhere although I'm not sure why.

I've got 12 of the 17 or 18 with pics which were done for me with TEW 2005. And like I did with TEW 2004 and 2005, I sent all the stats to my friend and had them fill them in for my character. He used to play these games when he roomed with me for a while so he knows how they all work, so there's no bias on my part what so ever.

[Ransik]

Another small update:

The entire ETWA is now complete movesets and all. I'm gonna take a small break and watch some TV and start working on the Ms before I go to bed.

Edit: Madison & Madman Pondo are now completed. I was gonna do Madusa before finishing up for the night but since she is set as Retired I see no need to make a moveset for her.

So all in all in the last day and a half I have;

-Made the ETWA
-Set all events
-Created all Titles
-Made the entire roster
-Created relationships and movesets for 15 wrestlers (plus 2 personalities)
-Done Madison & Pondo (17 total movesets completed)

A question for you Panix. I was looking through some of the Movesets you've done and I've noticed AJ Styles doesn't have the Styles Clash anywhere but has the Vertebreaker?

[Ransik]

So I'm curious, how often would you guys like updates on the work that's been going on? I know a daily update is kind of worthless, but in the last couple days I've done quite a bit of work... so how ever often you want to know what's been done.

[panix04]

I didn't do the moveset for AJ, Vladamire did. If its missing the styles clash could you add it for me? Cheers. Good work by the way Ransik, you appear to be ploughing through much faster than i have been! Will you want to help out more once you have finished doing the 'M Guys' or is this kind of a once only deal? Either way i appreciate the help and im sure everyone else will when we get it released a lot quicker!

[Ransik]

I'll do as much as I can until I burn out on it, then I'll send it back your way so you can do it until you wanna send it back to me.

What sucks though and I'm sure it'll piss someone off out there is that I know next to nothing about Japanese workers... so I've only done 2 out of I believe 30. I'd much rather not do a movelist for someone I don't know than do it half-assed and have someone complain about it later. lol

I'll post what I've done sometime tonight though, wanna finish up what I'm doing for the day before I list it.

[Ransik]

Okay, I think I'm done for tonight, been busting my hu,p half the day on this thing. lol

Anyways, since Saturday morning when I started on the Ms... here are the list of workers who now have completed movesets. I even did one of the As cause she's my favorite women's wrestler. Now while this looks like a lot... there's about 35-40 in the Ms I just cannot do movesets for because as I said I do not follow Japanese wrestling.

Ariel
Magnum TOKYO
Mark Calloway (Undertaker)
Mark Canterbury
Mark Henry
Mark Jindrak
Mark Sloan
Marty Jannetty
Marty Wright
Masahiro Chono
Masato Tanaka
Matt Bentley
Matt Cappotelli
Matt Hardy
Matt Morgan
Matt Striker
Matt Styker
Matt Sydal
Maven
Melina Perez

Now these are the moves that I added. I'll mark the finishers with who they belong to;

-Apron Neck Scissors
-Backbreaker Drop
-Corkscrew Moonsault
-Diamond Cutter (only used for Ariel so far)
-Double Knife Edge Chop
-F-5 (Matt Morgan)
-Fisherman Buster
-Flying Bulldog (Maven)
-Goodnight (Boogeyman)
-Go Round (Ariel, will be used for Nora Greenwals as well)
-Gory Neckbreaker
-Implant Double Arm DDT
-Inverted Fameasser
-Mark of Excellence (Mark Jindrak)
-Mount Morgan Drop (Matt Morgan)
-Overdrive
-Rocker Dropper (Marty Jannetty)
-Second Rope Legdrop
-Second Rope Styles Clash (AJ Styles, not exclusive)
-Shoulderbreaker DDT
-Side Effect
-Signature Standing Dropkick
-Solo Spanish Fly
-Stapler Attack
-Stop Sign Smash (Madman Pondo)
-Styles Clash (AJ Styles)
-Tombstone Piledriver (Undertaker, not exclusive)
-Tomorrow Driver (I dont remember to be honest)
-Twist of Fate (Matt Hardy)
-World's Strongest Slam (Mark Henry)
-Yakuza Kick

So there ya go folks... not bad for 2 days!


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So to recap in 3 days;

-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 22 movesets for existing workers (37 total)
-Added 31 moves

[Ransik]

Alrighty, another update for everyone. The following worker's movesets are now complete;

Mercedes Martinez
Michelle McCool
Mickie James
Mike Awesome
Mike Bucci (Nova/Simon Dean)
Mike Knox
Mike Mizanin
Mike Modest
Mike Mondo
Mike Rotundo
Mike Sanders
Mike Shane
Mikey Batts
Mikey Whipwreck

And the following moves have been added;

-Awesome Bomb
-Awesome Splash
-Back to Belly Piledriver
-Batts Beater
-Hammerlock Jawbreaker
-Inverted Headlock Backbreaker
-Lift Sitout Spinebuster
-Mickie DDT
-Mick Kick Combo
-Psycho Awesome Bomb
-Reverse Chokeslam
-Reverse STO
-Rope Aid Head Scissors
-Super Stunner
-Swanton Bomb
-The Mizard of Oz
-TKO

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In 7 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 36 movesets for existing workers (51 total)
-Added 48 moves

[panix04]

cool good work Ransik, you have really hammered through those M names haven't ya?

[Ransik]

Yeah, unfortunately I know so little about Japanese wrestling and very few Mexican wrestlers that about half the Ms aren't done but I'm someone down the line would be willing to fill them in. I'm actually started on the Ns right now but the same problem is going on; I just don't know any of the Japanese workers and I can't find any info on them.

[panix04]

dont worry about it too much Ransik, if there are lots of people who play in Japan and Mexico that are upset about the lack of movesets in the area's then those people can edit them for us, if not we will just leave them as they are. Although there is a good resource for Mexican wrestlers, it is a Luchre libre version of wikipedia, but i dont have a link, im sure you will be able to find it though, i think its called luchawiki or something like that. I think TCP sent me the link.

[Adam Ryland]

www.luchawiki.com (http://www.luchawiki.com)

[panix04]

ahh, thank you kind sir.

[Ransik]

Curse you Mr. Ryland, now I have to go back through my notes and figure out who I missed. lol :p

Edit: Actually on second thought... now that he pointed out this site to me... might be a good idea if I focus on everyone on it so I can get everyone done possible.

Edit #2: I'm making some good progress here... I'd post what I've gotten done since yesterday but I'll wait until later on tonight when I'm done working on it for the day. All I can say is by the end of tonight the Os should be done! Well... sorry to say but I'm still not getting Japanese workers done. My problem is I just don't want to hear people whine about how I messed up a certain person's moves, so if people want to play Japanese promotions they're either gonna have to volunteer to do that part of the work or wait until someone else volunteers to do it because I'll be honest I think I've only done 5 or 6 Japanese workers out of the 30 or so I've come across. Also if I get done the Os and have more time to kill I'll go back through the As and Bs and get done anyone I can who was missed.

[Ransik]

Alright, didn't get as far as I wanted but this is the most work I've done in one day for sure!

Added movesets;

Mascara Magica
Mascara Segrada
Mephisto
Misterioso
Mistico
Monty Brown
Mr. Aguila
Mr. Condor
Nathan Jones
Nattie Neidhart
Negro Casas
Nelson Frazier (Viscera)
New Jack
Nicho El Millionairo (Psicosis)
Nick Dinsmore (Eugene)
Nick Gage
Nick Mitchell (Mitch)
Nick Nemeth (Nicky
Nidia
Nigel McGuinness
Nikita
Nikki Roxx
Norman Smiley

Added moves:

-Balcony Dive
-Big Wiggle
-Exposed Buckle Smash
-Guitar Shot
-La Mistica
-Light Tube Smash
-Norman Conquest
-Pumphandle Fallaway Slam
-Ride Em Cowboy
-Rope Drape Cutter
-Samurai Driver
-Steel Chair Big Elbow
-The Pounce
-Trash Can Lid Shot
-Viscagra
-Wedgie

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In 8 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 59 movesets for existing workers (74 total)
-Added 64 moves

[panix04]

crikey, you have started on N's? Good work Ransik, when you start getting bored feel free to pass the data back and take a break, but until then feel free to do as much as you want!

[xVladx]

Is there any divas.. in this mod?

[Ransik]

Oh yeah there's plenty of women wrestlers. All the WWE & TNA divas are in plus a huge chunk of the more popular Indy women wrestlers.

I didn't do too much work last night, got dragged out to a club and stood around for 2 hours pretending I wanted to be there.

[panix04]

he he, just wait till you get married, you will relish every second you get to spend in a club! Even if you have to listen to 5 hours of 'dance anthems' whilst in there - still when its all said and done you get to look forward to 'come on eileen' and '500 miles' before they kick you out, so everyone leaves happy! Sorry i know thats way off topic, so i will get it back on-topic with a little bit of bad news, the screen mod i was working on at work kinda got deleted, so i will have to start again. It should take less time this time around though - hopefully!

[Ransik]

New update time.

Done the following movesets;

Oleg Pruidius
Olimpico
Orlando Jordan
Osamu Matsuda
Paul Burchill
Paul London
Paul Wight
Pegasso
Perry Saturn
Petey Williams
Pierroth Jr.
Pimpinela Escarlata
PJ Polaco
Psicosis II
Puma

Added the follownig moves;

-C-4
-Canadian Destroyer
-Chickenwing Facebuster
-La Ringuina
-Mushroom Stomp
-Nut Squash
-Reverse Tornado DDT
-Singapore Cane Back Shot
-Singapore Cane Shot

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In 11 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 74 movesets for existing workers (89 total)
-Added 73 moves

I'm now getting ready to start on the Rs as I have done all of the Ps that I could find. According to the database, there are now 185 completed movesets NOT counting the 15 generic ones that were already added in. So that makes the following letters completed to the best of our abilities;

A, B, M, N, O, P

I'll start work on the Rs later as I'm not feeling so great right now.

Edit: I'd also like to state that I'm not doing any movesets for Retired workers... as I really see no point in wasting the time if the worker will never use the moveset.

[Ransik]

Done the following movesets;

Manami Toyota
Rain
Randy Orton
Randy Savage
Randy Tyler
Raven
Ray Gordy
Rayo de Jalisco Jr.
Rebbeca Knox
Rena Lesnar
Rene Dupree
Rey Bucanero
Rey Mysterio
Rhino
Ric Flair

Added the following moves;

-Calf Branding
-Cobra Clutch
-Fisherman Driver
-Nature Boy Figure 4
-Ocean Cyclone Suplex
-Raven Effect
-Rhino Driver
-RKO
-Strut
-The Gore
-Wheelbarrow Driver

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In 12 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 89 movesets for existing workers (104 total)
-Added 84 moves

I was looking through movesets already done... and I don't want to offend anyone but wow... I don't like them. Instead of just putting in the moves that the wrestler uses and leaving it at that... all the spaces have been filled even if the person doesn't use the move. I did a test match with Triple H and he was using moves he would never even think of trying and that he wouldn't be able to pull off.

[panix04]

that is true Ransik, but how frustrating would it be to play as HHH and only have 12 moves? Some of the minor wrestlers you can only find there finishers, can you imagine controlling a character with just 1 or 2 moves? I have been edit all the trademark and finishing moves and then giving them a default moveset, if there is anything ridiculous in there i have tried to take it out, for example if the default moveset had a senton bomb in it and i was doing Rikishi, chances are i'd remove it! Dont get me wrong i want to make the mod realistic but not at the cost of taking away the fun! If when your testing you find anymoves that you just cant bare to have in there (like the rikishi example) feel free to remove them, we just have to make sure that all workers have a well rounded moveset.

[Ransik]

Well it's not that they don't have moves. Even the poor women wrestlers like Rena Lesnar have about 15 standing low level moves at the beginning of a match.

[panix04]

like i said, feel free to tweak the data in anyway you feel appropriate, just as long as they all have a playable moveset!

[Ransik]

Yeah, I just took out some moves that there's no way in the world some guys would ever do. I mean when Triple H hit me with a spinning arm drag I was kind of stumped. lol

[Ransik]

Ok I'm not going to post an update right now cause I'm going to wait until I go to sleep tomorrow to put up what I'm done, but I just wanted to say that if I continue at the rate I'm going, I should be finished M-Z (what I can do anyway) within the next 2 weeks if not MAYBE a bit sooner.

I did a week test game earlier and things look to be going well... although I'm probably going to be recommending people exclude Japan when playing due to the lack of move sets.

And as I stated earlier;

-I am not doing movesets for Retired Workers
-I am not doing movesets for MMA workers
-There are plenty of non-wrestlers

So estimating how many of those 3 categories there are... I'm going to say on top of the Japanese workers I will not find any profiles for... I have maybe about another 150-200 movesets left to do on my half if that. Of course the Ss and the Ts are frickin' huge so you never know.

Anyway, I'm pretty damn drunk (and typing rather well for once) so I'll just leave you all at that and post an update tomorrow night.

[Ransik]

Done the following movesets;

Rick Steiner
Ricky Marvin
Ricky Reyes
Ricky Vega
Riki Choshu
Ringo Mendoza
Road Warrior Animal
Roadkill
Rob Conway
Rob Eckos
Rob Van Dam
Robbie Brookside
Robbie McAllistair
Rocky Romero
Roddy Piper
Roderick Strong
Rodney Mack
Ron Harris
Ron Killings
Rory McAllistair
Ross Jordan
Ro-Z
Ruckus
Ryan Reeves
Ryan Wilson
Ryoutai Chikuzen


Added the follwing moves;

-5 Star Frog Splash
-Barrier Corkscrew Legdrop
-Chair Surf
-Cobra Clutch Scissors
-Corkscrew Flying Forearm
-Diving Side Kick
-Double Flapjack
-Elevated Whiplash
-Finishing Touch
-Half Nelson Backbreaker
-Iconoclasm
-Scissors Kick
-Slingshot Reverse Suplex
-Straight Jacket Clutch
-Stronghold
-Van Daminator

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In 14 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 115 movesets for existing workers (130 total)
-Added 100 moves

I have tried soooooooo hard to get Japanese workers done but the only thing I will be able to do is watch a match or two of each worker I cannot find on YouTube... and I did with Ryoutai and it would be far too long of a process to even bother with it. It would take upwards of 6 hours just to do the 10-15 Japanese workers I'm missing from the Rs... and that's not putting the movesets together, that would be just watching their matches and writing down what moves to give them.

But hell... I've done M-R in just 2 weeks time, not too shabby.

[codey]

Ransik, you're incredible.

[Ransik]

We'll see how great I am when people play it.

My thinking on making movesets are the follwing;

-For those I see on TV every week, they get the moves they use. Nothing more, nothing less. If movesets look repetitve that's simply because wrestlers are mostly using the same moves aside from their specialties.

-For those I know little about, I give them what I know they use and anything else comes from Wikepedia or other sources.

-For those I know absolutely nothing about but I find articles on, I give them the moves listed and from there I use their size and styles to fill in the blanks.

People said the work I did on WS1 was repetitive but if you ask me, most wrestlers aren't all that different when it comes to their moves. I'm doing my best to make everyone unique but there just aren't enough moves in the wrestling world to make everyone unique, especially American wrestlers who for the most part all use the same basic strategies until you get to the high risk and finisher moves.

But hopefully everyone will like the work I do.

What I should do is send what I've done to panix and have him see what he thinks. But like I've said before, I'm not filling in every single spot available just so everyone has variety. If a wrestler doesn't do a move, they don't get it. So like Sal E Graziano who I did earlier... he has maybe 30-35 moves total while Rob Van Dam has around 60-70. I know there's 25 Strikes... 50 Standing... etc... but I don't fill in every spot just because I can.

Another thing I should state is when it comes to finishers and top moves... I am not redoing every single move to be named specifically for every wrestler... it's a waste of time and makes the file too big.

For example; Ryan Reeves uses the Jackhammer... but calls it something else. I didn't copy the "Suplex Powerslam" and rename it to his and then trademark it to his name. I gave him the "Suplex Powerslam." Or take Taka Michinoku and Vampiro. I'm not going to rename the Bodyslam Driver to "Michinoku Driver" and "Nail in the Coffin." We'd just have the same exact move 3 times for no reason at all... so when I get to them they get the same move.

If that bothers someone... than sorry but I just see it as a waste to copy and rename moves countless times because someone has a different name for it. RVD has the 5 Star Frog Splash... Mike Awesome has the Awesome Splash... Val Venis will probably get the Money Shot. But that also depends on my mood. If I can save 2 or 3 minutes of time renaming and trademarking a move than I'll simply use the original for the wrestler unless his/her finisher is set as medium or high.

Long speech but yeah, I'm hoping people realize the work I'm doing isn't going to be down-to-the-detail-name-every-move-different. Right now there's between 1,000 and 1,100 moves. If I did this for every wrestler we'd probably have over 1,600 by now, and for no real reason. Most of the wrestlers in the mod none of you will ever use, and I'm not saying I'm not doing my best with them but if someone who only wrestles for a small company has renamed every move they use for their gimmick, I'm not going to copy and rename 45 different moves just to fit that person and their gimmick. I believe it was Ruckus... but he has names for like 12 or 13 moves, and I don't see a point in making duplicates with different names when all the stats and damages remain the same. Or with Mike Awesome, I gave him the Awesome Bomb and Awesome Splash... but I didn't do the Sit-Out Awesome Bomb... Kamikaze Awesome Bomb... I just gave him the Sit-Out Powerbomb and... uh... what ever the top rope powerbomb is named. lol

When the mod is ready for release maybe panix or I will go down into detail if we want to, but I'm hoping people realize just how much time this takes. In the time I've spent on this in the last 2 weeks I would venture to say I've spent almost 30 hours on it at LEAST.

[panix04]

maybe thats why it has been taking me a lot longer to do the movesets, i have been renaming all the moves! I dunno, i just think it adds a bit of variety to the game. But maybr your way is better, it would certainly appear to be quicker!

[Invalidfastpasser]

This is probably going to sound dumb, but is CM Punk in? I want to play a real world game as CM Punk in WWE/ECW.

[DeleTe]

Of course CM Punk is in.. Why Wouldnt he be ?

[James Casey]

Just to say that I can't wait for this to come out - and whether every move is renamed or just one or two for the most famous wrestlers, I don't think it matters too much.

Besides, I'm a committed RTL player in any case, so I'll be setting up my own move set quickly enough.

[Ransik]

CM Punk is in it. Every wrestler in the TEW 2005 "ORC" scenario is in this one, how ever my job is the M-Z and Panix will be taking care of C-L as the As and Bs are already completed.

I think at the end of next week I will let panix take over for a while if he feels he has enough time to work on it, as aside from today and tomorrow my work schedule is light and I'll have plenty of time to work on it. Today I only got 6 movesets completed as I worked 9 hours and I'm doing the same tomorrow, but the next week I'm only working five 5 hour days so I'll have plenty of time to get a huge chunk done.

Also panix I sent what I've done so far to you so you can take a look at it and give it a test run.

[Ransik]

Done the following movesets;

Sabian
Sabu
Sal E Graziano
Salvatore Rinauro
Samoa Joe
Sandman
Sangre Azteca
Sanshiro Takagi
Sara del Ray
Satoru Sayama
Satoshi Kojima
Scorpio Jr.
Scott Hall
Scott Norton
Scott Steiner
Scott Taylor
Sean Morley

Added the following moves;

-Air Sabu
-Corkscrew 450 Legdrop
-Corner Backflip Kick
-La Valagueza
-Money Shot
-Standing Camel Clutch
-The Worm
-Top Rope Cutter
-Two Handed Face Smash
-Vertical Suplex Piledriver
-White Russian Legsweep

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In 16 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 132 movesets for existing workers (147 total)
-Added 111 moves

[Ransik]

Well right now I'm stuck. Obsessed With Wrestling hasn't worked all day and I don't know why, it's like it doesn't even exist anymore. I've waited a few hours but heck, I'm gonna be skipping some guys I can't find anywhere. I could've been done a dozen movesets waiting for that site to come back up.

[JWideman]

Well right now I'm stuck. Obsessed With Wrestling hasn't worked all day and I don't know why, it's like it doesn't even exist anymore. I've waited a few hours but heck, I'm gonna be skipping some guys I can't find anywhere. I could've been done a dozen movesets waiting for that site to come back up.

Works for me. Might have been a temporary hicup.

[Ransik]

Done the following movesets;

Sean O'Haire
Sean Waltman
Seth Skyfire
Seven
Sexxxy Eddy
Sgt. Slaughter
Shad Gaspard
Shane McMahon
Shannon Moore
Shantelle Taylor
Shark Boy
Shawn Daivari
Shawn Michaels
Shawn Spears
Shelly Martinez
Shelton Benjamin
Shinjiro Otani
Shinsuke Nakamura
Shocker
Shoichi Funaki
Sid Vicious
Silver King
Simon Diamond
Skayde

Added the following moves;

-Burning Hammer
-Jacknife Powerbomb
-Samoan Driver
-T-Bone Powerslam
-Unprettier

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In 19 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 156 movesets for existing workers (171 total)
-Added 116 moves

[Ransik]

Damn... I've done 100 movesets in the last 9 days!

All thank you cards should be stuffed with $20s. ;)

Nah really... didn't think I had done so much work.

I'm not cruising at he speed I thought I was going to do as the Ss will just be getting finished tonight and then the Ts I think are going to take another week or so but then getting to the Zs should take less than a week on it's down and then I'll be all done on my end. I'll post an update in a day or so.

[weirdo_man]

You're insane Ransik.



It's a good thing.

[Johnny_McSluggz]

Why are guys like Norton and Sid in a current roster list?

[Sartagis]

Because they still wrestle.

[Ransik]

Norton has been in Japan since WCW went under and while Sid is very, very far from 100% he is accepting Indy bookings and I believe he wanted to work for TNA at one point.

And holy crap... I need some sleep. I spent roughly 5 hours working on this today and then 6 hours at work tonight, so I'm wiped.

[Ransik]

Done the following movesets;

Sonjay Dutt
Sonny Siaki
Spanky
Steve Austin
Steve Cornio
Steve Lewington
Steve Lombardi
Steve Madison
Steve Williams
Stevie Lynn
Stevie Ray
Stevie Richards
Sting
Sumie Sakai
Super Calo
Super Crazy
Super Delfin
Super Dragon
Susumu Mochizuki
Sylvan Grenier
Sylvester Terkay
Taiyo Kea
TAKA Michinoku
Takako Inoue
Tamon Honda
Tarzan Boy
Tatsuhito Takaiwa
Tatsumi Fujinami
Teddy Hart
Terry Funk

Added the following moves;

-Asai DDT
-Corkscrew 450 Splash
-Cross Arm Powerbomb
-Dragon Sleeper
-Oklahoma Stampede
-Osaka Street Cutter
-Psycho Driver
-Sliced Bread #2
-Trifecta Moonsault
-Twisting Neckbreaker Slam

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In 21 days;


-Created 1 company with all events, titles, etc...
-Added 17 workers with movesets for 15
-Done 186 movesets for existing workers (201 total)
-Added 126 moves

[Johnny_McSluggz]

Considering I've seen every NJPW show this year, Norton wrestled one match and it was in April, and Sid hasn't wrestled since 2004.

Put Tully Blanchard in, he wrestled in '05 for the first time in years, so he counts.

[Sartagis]

Considering I've seen every NJPW show this year, Norton wrestled one match and it was in April,
Then you obviously have a bad memory and I suggest you watch every NJPW show this year again, as he has wrestled 17 or 18 matches for NJPW this year (2 tours) though you are right with his last match in NJPW was in april at the New Japan Cup. But he was hardly on an exclusive contract. He since april went freelance and he also has just started up his own promotion (Wild West Championship Wrestling) in which I'm sure he is wrestling.

Norton Official site (http://www.scottnortonsite.com/)
Scott's Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/nortonsan)
Wild West Championship Wrestling (www.myspace.com/wildwestchampwrestling)

[panix04]

to be honest i dont understand the complaining, if you had read the entire thread Johnny you would realise that in its current state it is just a direct conversion of FOTORC with a generic moveset entered for every worker. Ransik and myself have been assigning movesets (as well as Vladamire Dracos in the past) once we have assigned all the movesets we will be doing a roster update. If you are really that bothered about about Norton you can go into the editor and delete him!

[Ransik]

Hey Panix, I sent the data back to ya. I really need a break from it, I'm starting to go nuts just forcing myself to sit and do movesets and I couldn't even amke myself work on it at all yesterday or today so I think it's time to letcha have a crack. ;)

[panix04]

cool i will crack on, did i send you a copy of the move pictures? If so could you email them to me, cos i can't find my copy.

[Ransik]

Nope, I never got any pics with the data. I did send you the roster pics I had though right?

[Ransik]

Hey Panix, just wondering how things are going?

[panix04]

they haven't! I have had a really hectic weekend! I had a considerable role in a play that was peformed on thursday, friday and saturday. I went to see Keane live on Monday and i had SKY installed last night, so i havn't done any editing! But i will post an update at the end of the week.

EDIT:

I have had my broadband dis-connected at home, so i can't research movesets at the moment :( it may take a couple of weeks for me to get going on it again. Until then i will continue work on the screen mod and as soon as my broadband's up and going again i can get cracking with movesets. Im still confident that we can have atleast a beta release before the end of the year.

[That Crazy Guy]

Keep going guys.

If you need any help, just ask. :)

[panix04]

you could possibly do some movesets until i get my internet connection sorted. Just PM me your email addy if you can do some and i will email you the data.

[DeadCeleb]

any chance you can release what you have now? or are the links on the first page up to date?

i like playing the DOTT scenario, but I would like a current scenario better, as I don't know much about wrestling in the 80's, lol.

[deadman2006]

any chance you can release what you have now? or are the links on the first page up to date?

i like playing the DOTT scenario, but I would like a current scenario better, as I don't know much about wrestling in the 80's, lol.

Yeah that would be pretty cool

[panix04]

afraid not! When the movesets are finished i will release a version and hopefully people can help me update the roster and then i will release the full version.

[DeleTe]

How many workers are there left to do?

[panix04]

thats a difficult question to answer seeing as we are not able to do movesets for every wrestler in the game. The people who are missing will generally be either Japanese or Meican wrestlers who it is hard to get moveset information from. Of course it doesn't help that the onlt internet access i have at the moment is at work and i can't edit movesets at work! So at the moment all i am doing is working on the new screen's and i have almost finished putting the data into a roster split format as i thought being as the game is kayfabe based having RAW, Smackdown and ECW all competing against eacthother would be quite cool, it also adds much more scope for employment.

[deadman2006]

thats a difficult question to answer seeing as we are not able to do movesets for every wrestler in the game. The people who are missing will generally be either Japanese or Meican wrestlers who it is hard to get moveset information from. Of course it doesn't help that the onlt internet access i have at the moment is at work and i can't edit movesets at work! So at the moment all i am doing is working on the new screen's and i have almost finished putting the data into a roster split format as i thought being as the game is kayfabe based having RAW, Smackdown and ECW all competing against eacthother would be quite cool, it also adds much more scope for employment.

I might be able to help with the movesets depends on how I would go about doing it?

[PWNED!]

Just wondering if you guys are using www.obsessedwithwrestling.com for any info?

And if you need anyone to double-check your info, I'd be glad to help.

[JWideman]

I might be able to help with the movesets depends on how I would go about doing it?

Basically, Panix sends you the file and you add the movesets, then you send it back. This is why it's taking so long.

[panix04]

it'll be worth the wait JW - believe me!

[Sartagis]

Does anyone have a (current) list of which Japanese wrestlers have either no move set, partial move set or unsure of move set?

[JWideman]

it'll be worth the wait JW - believe me!

Will you be updating rosters, titles, etc.?

[panix04]

hopefully, i have almost finished updating the data to include the brand split, im kind of hoping that when i release the Beta version people will chip in with roster changes, belt changes etc. Because to be honest my wrestling knowledge outside of TNA and WWE is very limited!

[Sensai of Mattitude]

Panix, the easiest way for you to update belt and roster changes is wikipedia.

[panix04]

yeah, i will be using wiki a lot, but it doesn't always have info on the smaller feds, and a lot of the Japanese feds are not on there. I have been mulling it over and it seems to be taking an awful long time to get this alltogether. Perhaps it might be an idea to release what i have at the moment and then just update with new movesets, pics etc as and when i get spair time. That way there is an up-to-date (ish) version around to keep you occupied. I did want to release everything at once, but to be honest wrespi has a much smaller player base than TEW so there wouldn't be that much excitment surrounding a 'big release' anyway - what do you guys think?

[SHaynes23]

I think you should just release what you have now, then add some updates, because I really need a current mod to play for this. Thanks for all the hard work on it.

[m2006]

i think u should realese it

[panix04]

http://rapidshare.com/files/5001490/wrepi2.zip.html is the current data, i have also updated the 1st page. Feel free to mirror if you can. I also welcome any feedback, wether it be roster info, moves that are missing etc. Remember, not everyone has a moveset yet, so don't PM me to say 'wrestler X doesn't have a moveset' if he's popular he will have one eventually! However if there are workers in the wrong feds, or title's with the wrong people feel free to chip in and let me know! (i havn't done the title holders yet!) I hope you like it, Me, Vlad and Ransik worked pretty hard on it. Still it will be miles better when its finished!

[alexgem]

Panix, at first thank you for sharing your work.
Anyway, I think there is a problem with the file you uploaded (unless there is something wrong with my download, but I tried repeatedly), it seems that the worker.ws2 file is missing, in fact when I tried to switch to your DB, the game doesn't even list it.

I am a bit embarassed to have my first post after months of lurking as a "complaint" :o

[m2006]

i have no problem with the mod, it works fine for me.
unpack the file into the orginal real world folder in data folder
and then switch in the game to real world mode. maybe u don't have
the orginal file and that's what cause the problem
about the mode great work guys i just quickly checked it out
still a lot of moves are missin but it feels great to finally play with
tna raw smack and such, again thanks for your effort panix
it's really seems like a good mode

[panix04]

thanks for the props M, i can't understate how helpful my companions on this project have been! As for your problem Alex, that was a really stupid mistake for me to make! I have uploaded the worker datafile as a seperate file for ya, which you can find here: http://rapidshare.com/files/5031384/worker.ws2.html as well as on page 1. On the brightside i have bought another forum lurker out of the wordwork! From here i fully expect you to have a postcount of atleast 100 come the end of the year, if you fail to achieve it you face the harshest of punishments. You will be kidnapped and forced to sit in a bath of beans watching Steve Davis do renditions of old Carpenters songs, whilst a large man named harold flicks you in the ear! :D

[alexgem]

Many thanks Panix!
I am horrified by your promised punishment :eek: , I wil go hiring the Boogeyman to prevent this to happen :D

[Vardamir]

Many thanks for this! It's a much appreciated work that you, Vlad and Ransik have done. I know it's not complete, but it's good just to be able to play a bit with current wrestlers and promotions. Keep up the good work!

[SHaynes23]

Looking good here Panix, just played a few matches and started looking at the database. One thing I noticed is that every WWE PPV is set to Raw, so Smackdown doesn't have any PPV's. Something you might want to change for the next version. Thanks alot for this, it's awesome to play current mod now.

[flamebrain]

Great stuff guys, I'm looking forward to playing this. Just one thing, is there some trick to actually getting a file from rapidshare? I wait for over an hour and when I get to download it just fails again and again. :confused:

[panix04]

Looking good here Panix, just played a few matches and started looking at the database. One thing I noticed is that every WWE PPV is set to Raw, so Smackdown doesn't have any PPV's. Something you might want to change for the next version. Thanks alot for this, it's awesome to play current mod now.

Doh, didn't think of that! Have you got a list of PPV's at all and which brand they are for, 'cos i cant log on to the WWE site atm, 'cos i havn't watched the PPV!

Great stuff guys, I'm looking forward to playing this. Just one thing, is there some trick to actually getting a file from rapidshare? I wait for over an hour and when I get to download it just fails again and again. :confused:

Once i have updated the WWE's PPV's i will upload the data to a few different sites, is there any upload sites that you know work for you?

[SHaynes23]

Sure thing

New Year's Revolution (Raw)
Royal Rumble (Split Brand)
No Way Out (SD)
Wrestlemania (Split)
Backlash (Raw)
Judgement Day (SD)
ECW ONS (ECW)
Vengence (Raw)
Great American Bash (SD)
SummerSlam (Split)
Unforgiven (Raw)
No Mercy (SD)
Cyber Sunday (Raw)
Survivor Series (Split)
December to Dismember (ECW)
Armageddon (SD)

I guess for the split brand one's you could just make an event for each one called like Raw Wrestlemania and Smackdown Wrestlemania, or however you think it should be done.

[panix04]

yeah, thats probably the best work-around for the PPV's

[panix04]

OK, the PPV issue has been fixed, i have uploaded the data to a few sites for people to download from - go nuts!

[DeadCeleb]

Panix, nice to see you took my suggestion and releasing what you have =P

i'll let you know what I think once I play a bit, but i'm sure it'll be great dude :)

[panix04]

i mainly did it because the beat was a bit naff, and this free's up more time to spend working on my sci-fi mod, i will pick this up again eventually though.

[flamebrain]

Just thought I'd say thanks to Panix and everyone else that helped. Good work!

[deadman2006]

Thanks this is great no worker pics though?

[panix04]

just use the ones that came with the TEW version of FOTORC

[deadman2006]

just use the ones that came with the TEW version of FOTORC
Alright thanks a lot man i'm looking forward to you're Sci-Fi mod too

[James Casey]

All the WWE titles are assigned to Raw.

Also, the following WWE workers need editing:

Amy Dumas - Retired
James Gibson - Should be SmackDown
Paul Burchill - Should be SmackDown
Brent Albright - Back in development
Francine - ECW
Johnny Jeter - OVW
Ken Doane - OVW
Nick Mitchell - OVW
Nick Nemeth - OVW
Mike Mondo - OVW
Kurt Angle - TNA
Marty Wright - SmackDown
Primo Carnero - ECW
PJ Polaco - Released
Trish Stratus - Retired
Joey Mercury - Raw
Kid Kash - Released
Nicho El Millionairo - Released

I understand, of course, that this is still a work in progress - but to save anyone else needing to do loads of editing just to get WWE roughly up to date you might wanna do these changes :D

[SHaynes23]

Just a couple of things from that list, and try to add some of my own.

Brent Albright isn't in development, he is in ROH now, and Primo Carnero isn't in ECW anymore, I think that was a one or two night thing. Also, Paul Burchill is in OVW and has dropped his pirate gimmick.

Also, Claudio Castognoli needs to have his independant contracts taken away and put in a training camp for WWE. Also, Monty Brown needs to be taken off of TNA and put into one of the WWE brands.

[DeleTe]

TJ Wilson is in WWE now. He will report to DSW in January/February

[Troika]

I have been playing the game in rookie mode with this data most of today and it has been a blast so far.

Just thought I would mention that all the WWE Title's were all assigned to RAW when I first started but I sorted that out quick enough.

Keep up the good work:)

[j20!]

Without looking through 17 pages has the full thing been released?

[panix04]

I have been playing the game in rookie mode with this data most of today and it has been a blast so far.

Just thought I would mention that all the WWE Title's were all assigned to RAW when I first started but I sorted that out quick enough.

Keep up the good work:)

Glad your enjoying it! Do you think you could email your copy of the data (with the titles fixed) it will save me the time doing it!

Without looking through 17 pages has the full thing been released?

I have decided to release updates when i feel i have made significant progress, i just figured it was a bettere way of doing things.

[Woodsmeister]

im sure i downloaded the right copy about a week ago but in my version none of the movesets are assigned to the workers. and some of the movesets eg, Cena and Triple H (off top of my head) have moves ive never seen them do i.e. the Stunner and Super Kick

have i got the same file as everyone else or am i in a bath full of beans with someone flicking my ear?