The Official Movieland Massacre Game Thread

[Kobe1724]

Could be a Don. Most Don's don't go out at night

A nexus should redirect you to a random person

This would also explain things. Good observation/point.

I should have a clearer handle on the truth of his claim after my night six investigation. I don't trust him though... or you for that matter, but I like your thought process even if it is potentially manipulative. :cool:

[Max Peck]

This would also explain things. Good observation/point.

I should have a clearer handle on the truth of his claim after my night six investigation. I don't trust him though... or you for that matter, but I like your thought process even if it is potentially manipulative. :cool:

I trust Anti and MNN at this point more than anybody else.

Work looms, I'll check in again before the end of the day phase.

[Antithesis]

This would also explain things. Good observation/point.

I should have a clearer handle on the truth of his claim after my night six investigation. I don't trust him though... or you for that matter, but I like your thought process even if it is potentially manipulative. :cool:

Fair enough. If I say don't trust anyone, that doesn't exclude me. Or at least, you shouldn't let it.

Anyway I don't think much of anything will happen now, though there was a good bit of information shared. The people who are quiet remain quiet. Thats a short term strategy though. regardless of alignment.

[Kobe1724]

Scum keep a "What we know list" in their threads/forums (based on what I've seen of them in post games), so I think towns should do the same.

[iMac]

Scum keep a "What we know list" in their threads/forums (based on what I've seen of them in post games), so I think towns should do the same.

I feel another one of your lists coming up...

[Paws7297]

I feel another one of your lists coming up...

I hope not......

[Kobe1724]

The scum have all this information, so why not make sure all of the town does?

[Antithesis]

The scum have all this information, so why not make sure all of the town does?

Scum don't have everything, thats why what your thinking of, its more of a day 8 or 9 gambit, when the numbers start getting close, when every claim, every spot in a write up, and every past vote has to be looked at.

One of the reasons scum never have everything is because some times townies lie, for their own reasons.

[Teh_Showtime]

What did Jman actually post when accused?

[Antithesis]

What did Jman actually post when accused?

He hasn't posted since four this morning. Think the accusation came after he last posted.

[Antithesis]

Here is me posting. :p

Lol.

This coming from Rev. Henry Kane who gets his kicks out of killing 12 year old little girls. :p

It's the comics explanation and the Batman Forever explanation but not the Dark Knights.



Lol. Nice.

Also sad Axel Foley died. :( He was one cool cat.

Vote: bak42

Yeah wasn't Alucard are miller protector in Over9000?

I don't believe this. He's a sexual Tyrannosaurus not a what you have.

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Lol right.



Let's hope he isn't Blade.

Vote: Mastered



I'd buy this.

Blade was when he was in the Bloodpack in part 2.



Sweet. Vlad won't be impaling anybody anymore. Yay town.

I might know who you are.

Nevermind got your comments mixed up with someone else's claim.

Yeah sure. I'm town. That is all. :cool:

All five rules state the same thing and that is Jman2k3 is awesome and the greatest man to ever live and is the best at what he does. :cool:

It's Bebop. ;)

Vote: Astil



Word.

If I was scum I would bust out with the forensic investigator claim by now lol. :D



See. Why I don't believe his claim.

True and he used acid to kill people/cartoons.



This.

Yeah I called him out on the first time and Gabbo confirmed with with it's misspelling.

Plus it's kind of hard to be bulletproof when a plasma cannon blows out your back and chest lol.

Really now. That is interesting.



So you say. If I choose to claim it won't have spelling mistakes lol.



And you forgot Blain's last name as well.



Nope. I'm no killer.



I know what I've been doing and that's keeping the best interests of the town afloat.

If it isn't a cult made up of different vampire characters such as the Vampire from Brooklyn or who knows why, Blade, then his minions are more than likely his hunchback lackey and/or his 3 wives.

True, but he's got to have some minions already when he started in the game or that is the end of the cult when he died.

Makes sense.

Okay if the MQM is right, thats all Jman has posted.

Aside from "afloat" I don't see the hint C-bot is so desperate to argue over, but anyway. Nothing substantive.

Seems like he blew off the Showtime admission. (I was wrong, cuz there's a post where he's mentioned along with Showtime) All he says is that he's no killer.

[Kobe1724]

Scum don't have everything, thats why what your thinking of, its more of a day 8 or 9 gambit, when the numbers start getting close, when every claim, every spot in a write up, and every past vote has to be looked at.

One of the reasons scum never have everything is because some times townies lie, for their own reasons.

What I mean is that the scum have all of the information shared in the topic and work together using that information to come up with ways to deceive the town.

A smart and observant town member can accumulate most of the information in the topic and use that to help profile potential scum and fellow town. But he or she can never view that information through as many different context as scum (who are working together and sharing ideas). They will also miss things, either because one mind is fallible, or conversely will undervalue or overvalue certain things that can provide incredible insight.

I won't make a list of known stuff this game (too troublesome to go back and do so given that I hone in on 3 or 4 posters at a time and ignore everything else until I decide I'm interested in another group of posters), but next game I'll try it, I think. ^_^

[Kobe1724]

Okay if the MQM is right, thats all Jman has posted.

Aside from "afloat" I don't see the hint C-bot is so desperate to argue over, but anyway. Nothing substantive.

Seems like he blew off the Showtime admission. (I was wrong, cuz there's a post where he's mentioned along with Showtime) All he says is that he's no killer.

He's posting like MLT did last game...

I think he's scum.

[Paws7297]

He's posting like MLT did last game...

I think he's scum.

:confused:
Who? Showtime, Jman or C-bot?

[Kobe1724]

Why did the scum kill hellshock and Destiny? Those were the best mis-lynch candidates...

I'm trying to understand their psychology...

[Kobe1724]

:confused:
Who? Showtime, Jman or C-bot?

jman.

[Kobe1724]

:confused:
Who? Showtime, Jman or C-bot?

My current thoughts are that Showtime and SmartBomb are scum together.

I'm torn on CBot. I need a bit more from him. I think we should pressure him tomorrow.

[Paws7297]

My current thoughts are that Showtime and SmartBomb are scum together.

I'm torn on CBot. I need a bit more from him. I think we should pressure him tomorrow.

I don't know......

And I don't think so on the second part.

[SmartBomb]

Who said I was an actual Nexus? :cool:

I'm a 50/50 Nexus. It's close enough to a real nexus to claim out Anti when I thought he was one.

Of course, 50/50 nexuses can still be killed, so I didn't see a good reason to claim the rest. And no-one was going to target me.... except the new person and the person who gives nothing about roleclaims. :rolleyes:

[Kobe1724]

Aligned Professional Screamer[/COLOR][/B].
10. Arrows is dead, he was Happy Harry Hard On, Good Aligned Pirate Radio DJ
26. petrija is dead, she was Axel Foley, Good Aligned Streetwise Cop
34. bak42 is dead, he was Drillbit Taylor, Good Aligned Bodyguard For Hire
5. The Shape is dead, he was Dr Evil, Corleone Family Aligned Evil Genius
13. moon lit tears is dead, she was Barb Wire, Good Aligned Bounty Hunter
11. masterded is dead, he was Vlad III Draculea, Vampire Cult Aligned Supreme Vampire
1. mjdgoldeneye is dead, he was Eddie "The Hudson Hawk" Hawkins, Good Aligned Master Thief
15. Zeel1 is dead, he was Roger Murtaugh, Good Aligned Too Old For This *poop* Cop
29. MichiganHero is dead, he was Newt, Good Aligned Elusive Child
7. Astil is dead, he was Karl Hertz, Self Aligned Forensic Behaviour Consultant
23. Destiny is dead, he was Jar Jar Binks, Good Aligned Annoying Gungan
28. The Two is dead, he was Judge Doom, Corleone Family Aligned Insane Toon
33. hellshock70 is dead, he was [B]Wolf, Self Aligned Elite Hunter

This game is going well. But we've been really lucky so far. I don't really have a handle on the way the scum think at all. 3 of my 5 biggest scum targets have been killed or lynched, and two were indy and one was town (Destiny/hellshock/Astil). I'd normally be happy with this, but given that the two non-town aligned that I had pegged as scum were indy/self aligned, this suggest to me that I'm just observing unusual/different behavior compared against the collective. Indy/self aligned people are the easiest to identify because the psychology they develop over the course of the game is one that is apart from any other ideaology. They also don't have the help of a group to coach them past their mistakes... so they make them with more regularity.

This also explains Destiny, who acted in a sharp departure from his normal game this time around. He behaved unusually, and unusual draws attention.

The interesting thing is that the scum are also behaving unusually. You can't post and think as a group without developing habits. In CFC the scums habit is that they weren't afraid to claim and use the things they'd found in the game to support those claims (MH claimed doctor, Eayragt thief, MJD role cop and zeel princess). Once you realized that the scum in the game made claims and supported them with existing information (as opposed to the typical scum play of being vague) then they began to stand out.

What I/we need to do is understand the scum's psychology in this game, and then they will reveal themselves to us.

[Kobe1724]

Confirmed Scum/Indy/Other non-town:

Leaning Scum/Indy/Other non-town:
Paws
Antithesis
Smart Bomb


Neutral (No decision one way or another yet but have thoughts on):
Cbot
Blue Star
Theblackphenom
glot
Gabbo
BHK
Jaded - look into next

Leaning Town:
MNN
Showtime

Confirmed Town:
Kobe1724

Thoughts Unformulated on everyone else at this time.

[Midnightnick]

Who said I was an actual Nexus? :cool:

I'm a 50/50 Nexus. It's close enough to a real nexus to claim out Anti when I thought he was one.

Of course, 50/50 nexuses can still be killed, so I didn't see a good reason to claim the rest. And no-one was going to target me.... except the new person and the person who gives nothing about roleclaims. :rolleyes:

50/50 nexus?

I don't trust that.

[Midnightnick]

Confirmed Scum/Indy/Other non-town:

Leaning Scum/Indy/Other non-town:
Paws
Antithesis
Smart Bomb


Neutral (No decision one way or another yet but have thoughts on):
Cbot
Blue Star
Theblackphenom
glot
Gabbo
BHK
Jaded - look into next

Leaning Town:
MNN
Showtime

Confirmed Town:
Kobe1724

Thoughts Unformulated on everyone else at this time.

If you think I'm leaning town, you should confirm or at very least lean town Anti.

[Kobe1724]

BHK is also on the scum bubble.

If possible, I'd like to question someone at this time if someone would volunteer. Adding someone to the likely scum/town list would be good for figuring out the texture of the game imo.

[Kobe1724]

If you think I'm leaning town, you should confirm or at very least lean town Anti.

Hmmm.

Elaborate?

[Paws7297]

Confirmed Scum/Indy/Other non-town:

Leaning Scum/Indy/Other non-town:
Paws
Antithesis
Smart Bomb


Neutral (No decision one way or another yet but have thoughts on):
Cbot
Blue Star
Theblackphenom
glot
Gabbo
BHK
Jaded - look into next

Leaning Town:
MNN
Showtime

Confirmed Town:
Kobe1724

Thoughts Unformulated on everyone else at this time.

/Headshake

Though I Love not being a target of scum by being on the scum list, I'd like to know where you get some of the people on the lists from. For example; Why exactly do you think I am scum?

[Kobe1724]

/Headshake

Though I Love not being a target of scum by being on the scum list, I'd like to know where you get some of the people on the lists from. For example; Why exactly do you think I am scum?

You're too agreeable.

[Paws7297]

You're too agreeable.

Go read every single game I have been in and then tell me if I am ever not too agreeable.

[Kobe1724]

Thoughts?

While, I'm thinking about it, Paws7297, what decade are you from, what is the (real) 1st name of the actor/actress most famous for playing you, and are you a cartoon or live action character? Both?

[iMac]

Hey you lot should stop moaning about where you are on the list. Some of us didn't even make it onto the list! :p

[Kobe1724]

Go read every single game I have been in and then tell me if I am ever not too agreeable.

Hmm.

[Paws7297]

Hey you lot should stop moaning about where you are on the list. Some of us didn't even make it onto the list! :p

I'm not complaining too much. I don't mind being on the scum list. It makes me less a target to scum. Being told to out myself for no reason urks me though

[Kobe1724]

Hey you lot should stop moaning about where you are on the list. Some of us didn't even make it onto the list! :p

I don't have any thoughts on you at this time. :o

Ironically, I tend to target people I know nothing about after the obvious suspects are accounted for.

Also, I'm disappointed in myself for revealing the nights I can go out. The scum can use that against me if they decide to.

[iMac]

Who said I was an actual Nexus? :cool:

I'm a 50/50 Nexus. It's close enough to a real nexus to claim out Anti when I thought he was one.

Of course, 50/50 nexuses can still be killed, so I didn't see a good reason to claim the rest. And no-one was going to target me.... except the new person and the person who gives nothing about roleclaims. :rolleyes:

What's makes a 50/50 nexus so 50/50? Like, 50% chance he diverts elsewhere?

[Jman2k3]

I currently have absolutely nada on Jman and on supermareo and extremely little on SuperOwens. All three of them are potentially worrying.

No need to worry about me.

It was the Two who killed hellshock, though, surely? The liquid practically HAS to be him.

Jaded is correct.

Well then, he was killed by Jman... or Showtime is lying.


Vote: Jman

:rolleyes:

This coming from the so called bulletproof townie with a faulty role claim.

WTF?

The Two killed hellshock. We know this. (or it's STRONGLY likely). How does this make Jman scum?

Either yall are stupid, or yall are scum. Bravo.

C-Bot is right on all accounts.

What town role could he have, C-bot? If he goes out at night. isn't a protector, hider, Watcher. Tracker, Investigator, Vig or Roleblocker.

Since others have hinted at that, he's either redundant, or something else. Assuming he is town.

I won't tell you my ability. Lets just say I've use it to protect the interests of the towns key player roles.

true, ergo less risk on him being taken out first if a better player has his ability.

So why not claim?

I'll give you a hint. Let's just say I'm a "transporter" of goods and services.

[Kobe1724]

I'm not complaining too much. I don't mind being on the scum list. It makes me less a target to scum. Being told to out myself for no reason urks me though

When people I suspect as scummy behave in openly scummy ways it throws a wrench in my plans because I'm forced to question any results I get from a decision to investigate them. Scum expect me to investigate them, making a suspect result more likely if they have a framer.

Please answer the questions.

[Paws7297]

You're too agreeable.

I don't remember agreeing on Smartbomb being scum. Or on Anti being scum. And I never agreed on questioning C-bot. And I never Agreed on C-Bot being scum.

[Kobe1724]

I don't remember agreeing on Smartbomb being scum. Or on Anti being scum. And I never agreed on questioning C-bot. And I never Agreed on C-Bot being scum.

I never said you were agreeable as it related to my theories.

[Midnightnick]

Hmmm.

Elaborate?

I can guarantee you he shouldn't be on your scum list, like how I guaranteed Masterded was a cult leader.

Is that enough Kobe?

[Paws7297]

I never said you were agreeable as it related to my theories.

I also never agreed on any of your theories..... Hmmm this game I am less agreeable than ever I just noticed. Maybe it's because your theories are random and a bunch of crap?

[Kobe1724]

I can guarantee you he shouldn't be on your scum list, like how I guaranteed Masterded was a cult leader.

Is that enough Kobe?

Not really, but I can see why from your perspective it would seem like enough. I'm not ready to pressure Antithesis at this time, however, so if you don't want to elaborate at this time that's fine.

Paws:

1. What decade are you from?

2. What is the (real) 1st name of the actor/actress most famous for playing you?

3. Are you a cartoon or live action character? Both?

[Kobe1724]

After I'm done questioning Paws I think I'll look into the post history of The Shape and The Two in this game and look for consistences.

[Paws7297]

Not really, but I can see why from your perspective it would seem like enough. I'm not ready to pressure Antithesis at this time, however, so if you don't want to elaborate at this time that's fine.

Paws:

1. What decade are you from?

2. What is the (real) 1st name of the actor/actress most famous for playing you?

3. Are you a cartoon or live action character? Both?

I'll answer these questions when someone has some kind of information on me that would lead you to believe I am scum.

[Kobe1724]

If you think I'm leaning town, you should confirm or at very least lean town Anti.

MNN doesn't trust Smart Bomb and trust Anti. Is how town stating his true thoughts? Is he scum protecting fellow scum and Anti and condemning town Smart? Or is he outing scum Smart and coddling town Anti in a play at reverse psychology.

Hard to say for sure at this time. I'm not looking at MNN closely at this time because I'd like to look into Paws. However, after that and an analysis of any consistency between The Two and The Shape I think I should look closely at everything he's said.

I wish I had an ally I could trust right now. I could play my thoughts off of him or her and get honest feedback. Antithesis is the closest thing right now, but I have no idea if I can trust his alignment. In fact he's likely to be scum...

[SmartBomb]

After I'm done questioning Paws I think I'll look into the post history of The Shape and The Two in this game and look for consistences.
/nod
I'll answer these questions when someone has some kind of information on me that would lead you to believe I am scum.
/shakes head

Cooperation is how town survives. Kobe's not asking any ability questions.

What's wrong with answering them?

[Kobe1724]

I'll answer these questions when someone has some kind of information on me that would lead you to believe I am scum.

You're probably scum, but I can't prove it. :o

This is why I hate my ability. It's sparse in it's use, the information isn't reliable and wouldn't be very good even if it was... :(

I'm going to Vote: Paws at this point, but don't think it will do much good.

[SmartBomb]

MNN doesn't trust Smart Bomb and trust Anti. Is how town stating his true thoughts? Is he scum protecting fellow scum and Anti and condemning town Smart? Or is he outing scum Smart and coddling town Anti in a play at reverse psychology.

Hard to say for sure at this time. I'm not looking at MNN closely at this time because I'd like to look into Paws. However, after that and an analysis of any consistency between The Two and The Shape I think I should look closely at everything he's said.

I wish I had an ally I could trust right now. I could play my thoughts off of him or her and get honest feedback. Antithesis is the closest thing right now, but I have no idea if I can trust his alignment. In fact he's likely to be scum...

What's MNN's ability?

[Paws7297]

MNN doesn't trust Smart Bomb and trust Anti. Is how town stating his true thoughts? Is he scum protecting fellow scum and Anti and condemning town Smart? Or is he outing scum Smart and coddling town Anti in a play at reverse psychology.

Hard to say for sure at this time. I'm not looking at MNN closely at this time because I'd like to look into Paws. However, after that and an analysis of any consistency between The Two and The Shape I think I should look closely at everything he's said.

I wish I had an ally I could trust right now. I could play my thoughts off of him or her and get honest feedback. Antithesis is the closest thing right now, but I have no idea if I can trust his alignment. In fact he's likely to be scum...

Yea it helps very much when you have someone you can trust and talk to about the game. I didn't think I'd like the role very much but, so far it helps me a lot.

[SmartBomb]

Mason?

Heh.

Talking of which, there's a cult, one or two serial killers plus a mafia. Is anyone surprised about the lack of a mason in this game?

[Kobe1724]

What's MNN's ability?

Some sort of investigator or role cop/tracker. I haven't been following him closely enough to say, although since I've decided he's likely town he's often times piqued my interest. I'll have to give him another look.

[Kobe1724]

Yea it helps very much when you have someone you can trust and talk to about the game. I didn't think I'd like the role very much but, so far it helps me a lot.

Will soft claim mason but not answer my decidedly more general questions.

[Antithesis]

I'll give you a hint. Let's just say I'm a "transporter" of goods and services.

It would seem to me, you tossing out so much doubt publicly, you'd try to at least come pay me a visit during the night phase.

If you haven't, either your doubt is for show, or maybe your hint is fake.

If you have, I'd like to know, because I havent scene any a hint of it.

[SmartBomb]

MNN doesn't trust Smart Bomb and trust Anti. Is how town stating his true thoughts? Is he scum protecting fellow scum and Anti and condemning town Smart? Or is he outing scum Smart and coddling town Anti in a play at reverse psychology.

Hard to say for sure at this time. I'm not looking at MNN closely at this time because I'd like to look into Paws. However, after that and an analysis of any consistency between The Two and The Shape I think I should look closely at everything he's said.

I wish I had an ally I could trust right now. I could play my thoughts off of him or her and get honest feedback. Antithesis is the closest thing right now, but I have no idea if I can trust his alignment. In fact he's likely to be scum...

What's MNN's ability?

Should be so obvious now.

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 4 (Kobe1724, Antithesis, Max Peck, Paws7297)
Reblliousangel: 2 (Bluestar, Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Paws7297]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 4 (Kobe1724, Antithesis, Max Peck, Paws7297)
Reblliousangel: 2 (Bluestar, Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

Errr..... Change Vote: No Vote

I thought I Did that vefore....... maybe not.

[iMac]

*Yawns*

I'm out. Remember we still have over 24 hours of this phase left. Don't rush into anything while I'm gone.

[Kobe1724]

Should be so obvious now.

PI, most likely then. :o

[Kobe1724]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 4 (Kobe1724, Antithesis, Max Peck, Paws7297)
Reblliousangel: 2 (Bluestar, Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

Vote: Paws7297

[SmartBomb]

/facepalm

MNN investigated Anti and got a town result.

amidoingitrite?

[SmartBomb]

Oh, and I don't like people being uncooperative.

Vote: Paws7297

[Kobe1724]

/facepalm

MNN investigated Anti and got a town result.

amidoingitrite?

Which is why I said he's most likely a PI.

[Kobe1724]

Oh, and I don't like people being uncooperative.

Vote: Paws7297

+ 5

[SmartBomb]

oh, right.

You weren't specific. Nevermind.

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 3 (Kobe1724, Antithesis, Max Peck)
Reblliousangel: 2 (Bluestar, Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Paws7297: 1 (SmartBomb)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

Vote: Paws7297

I didn't miss you do it the last time, you've already got a vote on Jman.

[Kobe1724]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 3 (Kobe1724, Antithesis, Max Peck)
Reblliousangel: 2 (Bluestar, Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Paws7297: 1 (SmartBomb)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.



I didn't miss you do it the last time, you've already got a vote on Jman.

:o

Change Vote: Paws7297

[Paws7297]

Vote: Paws7297

So you have 2 votes? Good to know.

[Paws7297]

So you have 2 votes? Good to know.

evermind I am late :o

[Antithesis]

I can recall MJD pointing this out and its fairly true, scum generally don't want to be associating with each other. They might help set up a fake claim if its planned out, but usually they don't like to have any kind of association with each other.

Lets take Gabbo for example. Went after MLT. We know she's toiwn. hasn't done much after that. Not only does it beg a question, but also look at who isn't mentioning his name.

I'm here a lot. Its easy for fake hurf blurfing to get a response out of me, probably to the point of distraction, this phase in particular. I'm an easy misdirection, the way i play.

I suspect, this game, most scum are laying low. probably have a point man to try to move things their way.

Look at it like this, Arrows saw it D1, but he shoulda had a bit more faith in my restraint. The threat here is the character claims. Now, with so many abilities out, they have that to contend with as well. Its harder for them to lie, so the best route, is just to shut up, and hope it rolls by.

The reason why we are stuck is because the townies taht can go out, keep looking at the talkers.

You need to start looking in to the quiet ones

Thats what will crack this game wide open.

[SmartBomb]

I can recall MJD pointing this out and its fairly true, scum generally don't want to be associating with each other. They might help set up a fake claim if its planned out, but usually they don't like to have any kind of association with each other.

Lets take Gabbo for example. Went after MLT. We know she's toiwn. hasn't done much after that. Not only does it beg a question, but also look at who isn't mentioning his name.

I'm here a lot. Its easy for fake hurf blurfing to get a response out of me, probably to the point of distraction, this phase in particular. I'm an easy misdirection, the way i play.

I suspect, this game, most scum are laying low. probably have a point man to try to move things their way.

Look at it like this, Arrows saw it D1, but he shoulda had a bit more faith in my restraint. The threat here is the character claims. Now, with so many abilities out, they have that to contend with as well. Its harder for them to lie, so the best route, is just to shut up, and hope it rolls by.

The reason why we are stuck is because the townies taht can go out, keep looking at the talkers.

You need to start looking in to the quiet ones

Thats what will crack this game wide open.
/nod

[Paws7297]

I can recall MJD pointing this out and its fairly true, scum generally don't want to be associating with each other. They might help set up a fake claim if its planned out, but usually they don't like to have any kind of association with each other.

Lets take Gabbo for example. Went after MLT. We know she's toiwn. hasn't done much after that. Not only does it beg a question, but also look at who isn't mentioning his name.

I'm here a lot. Its easy for fake hurf blurfing to get a response out of me, probably to the point of distraction, this phase in particular. I'm an easy misdirection, the way i play.

I suspect, this game, most scum are laying low. probably have a point man to try to move things their way.

Look at it like this, Arrows saw it D1, but he shoulda had a bit more faith in my restraint. The threat here is the character claims. Now, with so many abilities out, they have that to contend with as well. Its harder for them to lie, so the best route, is just to shut up, and hope it rolls by.

The reason why we are stuck is because the townies taht can go out, keep looking at the talkers.

You need to start looking in to the quiet ones

Thats what will crack this game wide open.
And on that note, Supermareo has been very quiet lately unless I missed something. And he seems kind of scummy to me.

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 2 (Antithesis, Max Peck)
Reblliousangel: 2 (Bluestar, Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Paws7297: 2 (SmartBomb, Kobe1724)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Kobe1724]

There is a preponderance of evidence suggesting SmartBomb, MNN and Antithesis are town. Either two or more of them are in cahoots together, Antithesis has some sort of ability to make himself come up town despite being scum or a series of things are conspiring to make me doubt myself (SmartBomb and Antithesis are very scummy to me).

There's no way to clear SmartBomb, however. His 50/50 nexus claim puts everything he says into doubt for the whole game.

After we finish with Paws and then I look into Shape/Two, we need to substantiate MNN's PI claim. If we can do that then we have a lot to work with. We may need to lynch SBomb eventually, but let's wait on that.

[Kobe1724]

I can recall MJD pointing this out and its fairly true, scum generally don't want to be associating with each other. They might help set up a fake claim if its planned out, but usually they don't like to have any kind of association with each other.

Lets take Gabbo for example. Went after MLT. We know she's toiwn. hasn't done much after that. Not only does it beg a question, but also look at who isn't mentioning his name.

I'm here a lot. Its easy for fake hurf blurfing to get a response out of me, probably to the point of distraction, this phase in particular. I'm an easy misdirection, the way i play.

I suspect, this game, most scum are laying low. probably have a point man to try to move things their way.

Look at it like this, Arrows saw it D1, but he shoulda had a bit more faith in my restraint. The threat here is the character claims. Now, with so many abilities out, they have that to contend with as well. Its harder for them to lie, so the best route, is just to shut up, and hope it rolls by.

The reason why we are stuck is because the townies taht can go out, keep looking at the talkers.

You need to start looking in to the quiet ones

Thats what will crack this game wide open.

It fascinates me that scum do this.

[Paws7297]

It fascinates me that scum do this.

If one was lynched, all the rest of the scum would be lynched after just because of them agreeing fully with each other and stuff the whole game.

[Antithesis]

And on that note, Supermareo has been very quiet lately unless I missed something. And he seems kind of scummy to me.

I hate to just say what people should do, but Glot should use his ability tonight. He should look hard at all of you who havent shared anything, and see if we get a kill blocked. Same for every other townie blocker/silencer.

If people won't add to the game then its time to force them to be a part of it.

And yeah Supermareo is probably scum, but I have my doubts, what with C-bot spending more effort defending someone else rather than push on SM. I know he wants to pretend to go that way, but he's either taken the MJ role this game as the 'designated must argue with Anti' person, or he's hiding something.

That said, given his lack of involvement, losing SM may not be bad for the town even if he is town aligned.

[SmartBomb]

Look at that list.

8. Max Peck
14. Paws7297
16. Imarevenant
18. Gabbo
21. Bluestar
25. SuperOwens
35. supermareo

That's the list of people who have not given any mention of their role or anything.

If I missed your rolehints, don't say it. They go right over my head.


Hmm?

We don't want to go over the same people over and over again.

[Kobe1724]

If one was lynched, all the rest of the scum would be lynched after just because of them agreeing fully with each other and stuff the whole game.

At this point though no one assumes scum work together with one another. They could easily help one another out and if one died it work in the favor of the others.

[Paws7297]

At this point though no one assumes scum work together with one another. They could easily help one another out and if one died it work in the favor of the others.

You're gonna have to change your words some.... I don't understand what you're telling me.

[Antithesis]

It fascinates me that scum do this.

Why shouldn't they. Some players, like yourself, still have this idea that scum are pulling off these grand plots and talking about it the entire time in the thread.

Its a themed game (of sorts) Some scum are just gonna flat out lay low. They don't want to have to lie about their character or ability, because of the ever increasing chance it will get called out in short order.

Then again, some scum can pad their count by posting nonsense lists.

:cough cough:

[Kobe1724]

You're gonna have to change your words some.... I don't understand what you're telling me.

i.e.

Scum B is pressured. Scum A supports scum B. Scum C also supports scum B.

Not only would this make a lynch of scum B less likely, but even if he was lynched no one would ever suspect that three other scum worked together to help one another out.

Scum B being lynched would actually make A and C look more innocent, ironically.

[Kobe1724]

Why shouldn't they. Some players, like yourself, still have this idea that scum are pulling off these grand plots and talking about it the entire time in the thread.

Its a themed game (of sorts) Some scum are just gonna flat out lay low. They don't want to have to lie about their character or ability, because of the ever increasing chance it will get called out in short order.

Then again, some scum can pad their count by posting nonsense lists.

:cough cough:

Anyone that doubts if I'm town is free to ask me anything short of a full claim.

That's all. :cool:

[Paws7297]

i.e.

Scum B is pressured. Scum A supports scum B. Scum C also supports scum B.

Not only would this make a lynch of scum B less likely, but even if he was lynched no one would ever suspect that three other scum worked together to help one another out.

Scum B being lynched would actually make A and C look more innocent, ironically.

No.... If they went along and pushed scum B then they'd be looked at as innocent

[Kobe1724]

Also, I wonder why scum don't try and pull off grand plots. Anything else is just banking on town incompetence.

[Kobe1724]

No.... If they went along and pushed scum B then they'd be looked at as innocent

All depends on who's looking and from what angle.

[SmartBomb]

That's because town is incompetent 50% of the time. :D

[Kobe1724]

Also, Paws you never answered the questions I asked.

[Kobe1724]

That's because town is incompetent 50% of the time. :D

That's only because they don't listen to me. ;)

[SmartBomb]

No, it's because we don't listen to you. :p

But enough of that, if the Paws thing is going to go nowhere, we need a bigger bandwagon.

[Paws7297]

No, it's because we don't listen to you. :p

But enough of that, if the Paws thing is going to go nowhere, we need a bigger bandwagon.

If I was scum I'd have answered the questions by now. I don't mind the pressure when I am town but, any TINY bit of pressure and I claim as scum.

Just sayin'

[SmartBomb]

Mmmm.... there's this wine glass in front of me.

Verrry tasty.

[Paws7297]

Mmmm.... there's this wine glass in front of me.

Verrry tasty.

Yuck..... I hate wine......

[SmartBomb]

Was referring to WIFOM, but whatever.

[Kobe1724]

No, it's because we don't listen to you. :p

But enough of that, if the Paws thing is going to go nowhere, we need a bigger bandwagon.

I'm actually quite a band wagon jumper once one gets big enough, but I've always been against letting someone off the hook just because no one else wants to pressure them. That's how scum skate. :)

[SmartBomb]

I'm actually quite a band wagon jumper once one gets big enough, but I've always been against letting someone off the hook just because no one else wants to pressure them. That's how scum skate. :)

/breaks head from nodding too much

[Antithesis]

Also, I wonder why scum don't try and pull off grand plots. Anything else is just banking on town incompetence.

Well, obviously early in the game Shape was going for that aggressive townie vibe... probably got himself killed by the SK.

Thats something else they have to consider.

Sometimes Scum do some crazy stuff, buts either because

1) they have some mechanism at their disposal they can fool the town with (Shape in lakeside)

2) They have such a highly regarded member amongst them situated in such a way he can mislead the town to its destruction (Outlaw in Marvel mafia and the Simpsons)

Since there are many newer players now who are unimpressed by Multiple Time Scummy Award Winners, 2 is tougher to pull off.

Myself I'd look at CFC as a blue print. Kill off power roles and veterans who can read other players and just leave newer folks who havent shown a habit of backtracking and sifting through other information.

Its what we did in CC mafia, killed the biggest threats first, left the players mostly worried about their "survival" over "winning" and lead them all to their destruction.

Which reminds me, why are Gabbo and C-bot still alive, anyway? Its not like they claimed to be bulletproof or anything...

[Teh_Showtime]

paws should stop deflecting the questions imo

[Antithesis]

Change Vote: paws

You were the other one that jumped on bak at the end.

Its past time you claimed. And if you have a night action, go ahead and list targets.

I am not asking you to say exactly what you do, but yeah, you need to say something.

[Paws7297]

Well, obviously early in the game Shape was going for that aggressive townie vibe... probably got himself killed by the SK.

Thats something else they have to consider.

Sometimes Scum do some crazy stuff, buts either because

1) they have some mechanism at their disposal they can fool the town with (Shape in lakeside)

2) They have such a highly regarded member amongst them situated in such a way he can mislead the town to its destruction (Outlaw in Marvel mafia and the Simpsons)

Since there are many newer players now who are unimpressed by Multiple Time Scummy Award Winners, 2 is tougher to pull off.

Myself I'd look at CFC as a blue print. Kill off power roles and veterans who can read other players and just leave newer folks who havent shown a habit of backtracking and sifting through other information.

Its what we did in CC mafia, killed the biggest threats first, left the players mostly worried about their "survival" over "winning" and lead them all to their destruction.

Which reminds me, why are Gabbo and C-bot still alive, anyway? Its not like they claimed to be bulletproof or anything...

'Cause Gabbo's scum....... And some people are suspicious of C-bot?

[Antithesis]

'Cause Gabbo's scum....... And some people are suspicious of C-bot?

Think only I'm suspicious of C-bot (all his fault too). hell, not even Kobe seems to sweat him.

Anyway you: gender, do you go out at nighT? If so, who have you targetted. See yourself in any of the write ups?

[Paws7297]

Change Vote: paws

You were the other one that jumped on bak at the end.

Its past time you claimed. And if you have a night action, go ahead and list targets.

I am not asking you to say exactly what you do, but yeah, you need to say something.

/sigh

90's

Leonardo DiCaprio

No ability.

[Paws7297]

Think only I'm suspicious of C-bot (all his fault too). hell, not even Kobe seems to sweat him.

Anyway you: gender, do you go out at nighT? If so, who have you targetted. See yourself in any of the write ups?

Male

No

[Kobe1724]

Have. to. sleep.

Devastated since Paws seems about ready to talk finally. Will read/respond to things tomorrow.

Please answer my three questions Paws. :)

[Antithesis]

/sigh

90's

Leonardo DiCaprio

No ability.

No ability as in your claiming to be vanilla?

Not even a passive ability like RA claimed?

[Paws7297]

Have. to. sleep.

Devastated since Paws seems about ready to talk finally. Will read/respond to things tomorrow.

Please answer my three questions Paws. :)

Done. And not because they were asked by you. I don't trust you. And probably never will.

[Paws7297]

No ability as in your claiming to be vanilla?

Not even a passive ability like RA claimed?

Vanilla.

Small Mason.

[Kobe1724]

Done. And not because they were asked by you. I don't trust you. And probably never will.

Thank you. I'll figure out who you're claiming tomorrow. :)

[Midnightnick]

There is a preponderance of evidence suggesting SmartBomb, MNN and Antithesis are town. Either two or more of them are in cahoots together, Antithesis has some sort of ability to make himself come up town despite being scum or a series of things are conspiring to make me doubt myself (SmartBomb and Antithesis are very scummy to me).

There's no way to clear SmartBomb, however. His 50/50 nexus claim puts everything he says into doubt for the whole game.

After we finish with Paws and then I look into Shape/Two, we need to substantiate MNN's PI claim. If we can do that then we have a lot to work with. We may need to lynch SBomb eventually, but let's wait on that.

I ousted a Cult Leader.

What more proof do you need Kobe?

[Kobe1724]

Vanilla.

Small Mason.

Jack from titanic. Who is Rose though?

I'll think/sleep on it.

Night.

[Paws7297]

No ability as in your claiming to be vanilla?

Not even a passive ability like RA claimed?

I missed a question.

Not in any write-ups.

[Kobe1724]

I ousted a Cult Leader.

What more proof do you need Kobe?

Another result.

[Paws7297]

Jack from titanic. Who is Rose though?

I'll think/sleep on it.

Night.

THis is why I didn't wanna answer questions. They were too obvious.

[Antithesis]

Vanilla.


Would you be willing to lynch either Cbot or Jman?

[Antithesis]

Would you be willing to lynch either Cbot?

He claimed to be a female from the 90's....

[Paws7297]

Would you be willing to lynch either Cbot or Jman?

WHat does that have to do with anything?

[SmartBomb]

Small Mason?

Who would be the other members?

nvm, if someone can vouch for y- wait. Hm.

Do your partners have abilities?

[Paws7297]

He claimed to be a female from the 90's....

I missed that... Mind quoting it for me?

[Paws7297]

Small Mason?

Who would be the other members?

nvm, if someone can vouch for y- wait. Hm.

Do your partners have abilities?

No.

[Midnightnick]

Another result.

2 times I've used my ability

2 times I've gotten a result.

1 of Vampire Cult Aligned

1 of Good Aligned, exactly what Anti.

You won't get anything until day 7.

[SmartBomb]

Huh.

Well then.

Why don't you just out you-wait.

Question: Would outing Paws's allies be a good move?

[Teh_Showtime]

masons are pro town though right?

[SmartBomb]

Yeah, that's why I'm asking.

[Rebelliousangel]

No, cuz I just reread ALL her posts, and am fairly certain she isn't scum.

We seem to be lacking a direction here people. Anyone want to add to the pressure on RA?

Well thank you makes me feel better that I'm someone understands me. :D

[Jman2k3]

I ousted a Cult Leader.

What more proof do you need Kobe?

I believe you, but I'm scum so what do I know. Lol.

[Antithesis]

I believe you, but I'm scum so what do I know. Lol.

Oh go ship a box...

[Paws7297]

I ousted a Cult Leader.

What more proof do you need Kobe?

I believe you. But, I have a gut feeling Anti is the don. I trust him for the moment though,

[Jman2k3]

Would you be willing to lynch either Cbot or Jman?

How about we lynch you.

Vote: Antithesis

[Teh_Showtime]

Yeah, that's why I'm asking.

I am really confused right here

you are asking if we should out pro town masons just because they are allies of paws who (if telling truth) is also a mason

[SmartBomb]

How about we lynch you.

Vote: Antithesis

How about we lynch you who's trying to lynch our bulletproof?

Change Vote: Jman2k3

[Paws7297]

How about we lynch you who's trying to lynch our bulletproof?

Change Vote: Jman2k3

......I obviously missed something...... *Grumbles* I hate this computer and the dsi internet browser.

[Teh_Showtime]

vote jman2k3

we really need to hear your reasoning behind your recent actions

[SmartBomb]

I am really confused right here

you are asking if we should out pro town masons just because they are allies of paws who (if telling truth) is also a mason

Yeah, for some more credibility.

However, easy pickings for scum, so not really a favour of doing it.

waitwaitwait.

Rose and Jack....

ah *bleep*

Don't do it, Paws. Nevermind.

[Paws7297]

Yeah, for some more credibility.

However, easy pickings for scum, so not really a favour of doing it.

waitwaitwait.

Rose and Jack....

ah *bleep*

Don't do it, Paws. Nevermind.

:confused:


Oh wait.... I think I get it now.

[Antithesis]

How about we lynch you.

Vote: Antithesis

Its way too early for that.

BTW you just voted for Bak without much reasoning that i could tell.

Any idea why you voted to lynch bak?

[Jman2k3]

I believe you. But, I have a gut feeling Anti is the don. I trust him for the moment though,

I don't.

[Antithesis]

Its way too early for that.

BTW you just voted for Bak without much reasoning that i could tell.

Any idea why you voted to lynch bak?

Consult your scum board if you need to. We have time.

[Jman2k3]

How about we lynch you who's trying to lynch our bulletproof?

Change Vote: Jman2k3

Show me where is he bulletproof at all the write ups?????

Plus his role claim had multiple errors in it. And people think I'm the scummy one. :rolleyes:

vote jman2k3

we really need to hear your reasoning behind your recent actions

If you use your logic you'll know what exactly I was doing there.

Its way too early for that.

BTW you just voted for Bak without much reasoning that i could tell.

Any idea why you voted to lynch bak?

It's called bandwagon pressure. Plus you voted on him as well remember.

[Jman2k3]

Oh go ship a box...

Want me to use Fed Ex or UPS?????

[SmartBomb]

Did you miss MNN's town result?

[Paws7297]

Want me to use Fed Ex or UPS?????

I seriously lol'd....... I like UPS better. The Fed Ex dudes are meanies

[Jman2k3]

Did you miss MNN's town result?

Town result on what?

[SmartBomb]

On Anti?

[Rebelliousangel]

Want me to use Fed Ex or UPS?????

Haha ok that was good actually.

[Jman2k3]

On Anti?

That doesn't mean anything. If he is the don of the scum group he will register as a townie.

Until he is proven as bulletproof it means nothing.

[Paws7297]

That doesn't mean anything. If he is the don of the scum group he will register as a townie.

Until he is proven as bulletproof it means nothing.

Try to kill him tonight then.

[Jman2k3]

Try to kill him tonight then.

I can't kill people.

[SmartBomb]

But I'm going to guess MNN got a Good Aligned result on Anti, which would therefore negate all framing/donness?

[Paws7297]

I can't kill people.

you sure? :p

[Jman2k3]

But I'm going to guess MNN got a Good Aligned result on Anti, which would therefore negate all framing/donness?

what don't you get???? If he is the don then no matter what type of investigating role scans him he will always show up town until he is killed.

you sure? :p

Positive missy. :cool:

[Paws7297]

what don't you get???? If he is the don then no matter what type of investigating role scans him he will always show up town until he is killed.



Positive missy. :cool:

/nod

[Antithesis]

what don't you get???? If he is the don then no matter what type of investigating role scans him he will always show up town until he is killed.



Positive missy. :cool:

MNN didn't claim a regular old investigator. What he claimed would be a threat to a Don as well, at least I would think so.

Personally, I am surprised he is still alive, though that could very well be from the apparent number of you players who arent picking up stuff.

What's your opinion on C-bot? Gabbo? Rev? If you wanna go vet hunting, why not look at the guys who havent claimed yet?

[Jman2k3]

Personally, I am surprised he is still alive, though that could very well be from the apparent number of you players who arent picking up stuff.

His being alive is not surprising to me.

[SmartBomb]

He claimed an "every other day" investigator, but I'm more interested in the people we don't know about.

[Jman2k3]

He claimed an "every other day" investigator, but I'm more interested in the people we don't know about.

Ok and what is your point.

[Antithesis]

His being alive is not surprising to me.

There's that option as well.

BTW Your opinions on

Cbot
Gabbo
Imarevenant

[Jman2k3]

There's that option as well.

BTW Your opinions on

Cbot
Gabbo
Imarevenant

C-Bot, I trust not because he has defended me but he apparently gets that I didn't kill anyone and probably knows what I can do.

Gabbo might be indy

and Rev not sure.

[Antithesis]

C-Bot, I trust not because he has defended me but he apparently gets that I didn't kill anyone and probably knows what I can do.

Gabbo might be indy
and Rev not sure.

Why Indy and Not full scum?

[Jman2k3]

Why Indy and Not full scum?

Just a hunch on my part.

[BHK1978]

Well you all know my opinion, Superowens is Scum!

I am BHK and I support this post.

[Antithesis]

Just a hunch on my part.

SK kind of Indy, perhaps?

[Jman2k3]

Well you all know my opinion, Superowens is Scum!

I am BHK and I support this post.

No one believes you Kane. :p

[Paws7297]

C-Bot, I trust not because he has defended me but he apparently gets that I didn't kill anyone and probably knows what I can do.

Gabbo might be indy

and Rev not sure.

How about on Kobe or Paws?

Btw, I was joking when I called yo a killer xD

[Jman2k3]

SK kind of Indy, perhaps?

If not an SK than maybe someone that has to kill a certain target to win.

[BHK1978]

No one believes you Kane. :p

Nobody ever does.

Also, in non game realated news I heard a Michael McDonald song and now I can't get the damn thing out of my head!:mad: Damn you Michael McDonald!

[Jman2k3]

How about on Kobe or Paws?

Btw, I was joking when I called yo a killer xD

Kobe not sure. She is tough to read. Nuetral on her.

Paws??? Definately scum for sure. :p

[Paws7297]

How about on Kobe or Paws?

Btw, I was joking when I called yo a killer xD

Errr.... Smartbomb not Paws.... And they're not even semi-related..... Smartbomb is missing a W.....

[Jman2k3]

Errr.... Smartbomb not Paws.... And they're not even semi-related..... Smartbomb is missing a W.....

Smartbomb I would consider scum. Just the way he has been second guessing my answer when he has been wrong.

[Jman2k3]

Smartbomb I would consider scum. Just the way he has been second guessing my answer when he has been wrong.

answers.

[Paws7297]

Kobe not sure. She is tough to read. Nuetral on her.

Paws??? Definately scum for sure. :p

:p Fine! I wasn't joking about you being the killer! In fact- Vote: Jma- ooh a cookie.

[Antithesis]

Night 2

***********************

'Room service'.

'I did not order any room service', said a voice from inside.

'This is the room number I was given.'.

The door swung open, 'I did not order any room service, you have made a mistake.'.

A shiver ran down the man's spine, 'Ah, ummm, I'm terribly sorry to have disturbed you, sir', as he backed away from the door and hurried away.

***********************

The man entered the room and found his target preparing for the night ahead. She looked up, 'What are y...'

'Sh!'

'But...'

'Sh!'

'How...'

'Knock knock'

'Who's there?”

'Sh!'

The man pointed a device at the woman and fired, freezing her on the spot. 'It's frickin' freezing in here.'.

***********************

*knock knock* No reply. *knock knock* 'Police, open up.'. Still no reply. 'Guess we'll have to do this the old fashioned way', but the door opened before he could kick it in. 'Damn, I love doing that too. Anyway, come out where I can see you, I need you to answer some questions.'.

***********************

He made sure the coast was clear before entering the room. 'Too easy', he chuckled to himself as he poured a liquid over his soon to be dissolved victim.

***********************

The man was preparing for the task at hand when there was a knock at the door. 'Good evening, sir. I couldn't help but notice that it would appear you're losing your hair, but I can assure that with my expertise I could transform it to make you appear ten years younger. Would you be interested in my services?'.

'Errrr, ok, sure.'.

***********************

This made for a nice change as he hadn't had any time-off in a while, he'd had a few drinks at the bar and decided to have an early night. Little did he realise someone was waiting for him to return to his room. As he opened the door they grabbed him by the throat and were about to plunge their blades into his chest, when out of nowhere a masked figure appeared and fought off the attacker.

***********************

There was a knock on the door. 'What do you want?', but there was no reply. Cautiously he opened the door... 'Awww, aren't you just the cutest little thing!'.

***********************

The figure had been waiting in the shadows for it's victim to fall sound asleep, and now the time had come.

The scream echoed throughout the hotel.

***********************

The man banged on the door, 'Come on, I know you're in there!'. He gripped his weapon tightly as the door opened... 'Oh, pardon me, my mistake.'.

***********************

The Shape is dead, he was Dr Evil, Corleone Family Aligned Evil Genius.
moon lit tears is dead, she was Barb Wire, Good Aligned Bounty Hunter.

Night phase pm's to follow shortly... after i've eaten my kebab and drank a beer. :cool:

MLT's character is female.

She gets frozen by Shape, then melted/killed by the Two (there goes your two scum, 1 victim incident heyoo)

Blades/SK... their target gets protection

Shape gets killed by the cult recruiter, Mded

[Jman2k3]

MLT's character is female.

She gets frozen by Shape, then melted/killed by the Two (there goes your two scum, 1 victim incident heyoo)

Blades/SK... their target gets protection

Shape gets killed by the cult recruiter, Mded

And the point of showing this is?

[Antithesis]

And the point of showing this is?

Shape went with the two

You go with The Two

Its one of those happy coincidences...

[Jman2k3]

Shape went with the two

You go with The Two

Its one of those happy coincidences...

Really? Cause I thought I was seen with Hellshock according to Teh Showtime?

[Teh_Showtime]

visiting hellshock

as was the two

[Teh_Showtime]

this really seems fishy

why would this happen?

[Antithesis]

Really? Cause I thought I was seen with Hellshock according to Teh Showtime?

Oh you mean you arent sure what Showtime said?

Who'd ya target then?

[Jman2k3]

visiting hellshock

as was the two

And they both died. Awesome isn;t it. :cool:

[Comradebot]

So... the scum have two roles used to help their killer? Whatever, sm is scum and were wasting time where we could pressure him. Supermareo, actor, decade, ect

[Antithesis]

this really seems fishy

why would this happen?

Dunno, maybe C-bot will post and explain what Jman means in detail. Because townies are always doing that for other townies. :D

[Antithesis]

And they both died. Awesome isn;t it. :cool:

Are you claiming you killed The two?

Yes or No?

[Jman2k3]

So... the scum have two roles used to help their killer? Whatever, sm is scum and were wasting time where we could pressure him. Supermareo, actor, decade, ect

I feel ya, but everyone has 15 million questions they want to ask me when they can't figure it out on there own.

[Antithesis]

So... the scum have two roles used to help their killer? Whatever, sm is scum and were wasting time where we could pressure him. Supermareo, actor, decade, ect

Well pressure him then.

My questioning Jman doesn't stop you from questioning SM.

:boggle:

[Jman2k3]

Are you claiming you killed The two?

Yes or No?

Nope.

[BHK1978]

Well I would be happy going after SO but that is just me. SM seems like a good choice as well but he did save me and got me a win in SW3 so I am less likely to go after him (yeah I know different game).

[Antithesis]

So something will get done today.

Change Vote: Supermareo

[Jman2k3]

Change Vote: Supermareo

[Jman2k3]

Change Vote: Supermareo

[Antithesis]

Change Vote: Supermareo

Didn't an hour ago you said I might be the Don?

Now you're gonna vote with me?

[Teh_Showtime]

Im drowsy and dont feel like looking

what made sm suspicious i nthe first place?

[BHK1978]

Just looked over SM posts, and I think we should be asking questions of him.

So SM I guess the standard questions apply:

Do you go out at night?

What decade is your movie from?

Why did you and your Scum friends kill Destiny...oh wait never mind that question.:D

[Teh_Showtime]

yeah thats the only thing that stood out was the ultra random vote on Destiny

[Jman2k3]

Didn't an hour ago you said I might be the Don?

Now you're gonna vote with me?

For now until the town realizes you are the don.

[Jman2k3]

Off to get food.

[BHK1978]

Im drowsy and dont feel like looking

what made sm suspicious i nthe first place?

I am not sure myself, SM is very much like iMac and Jaded. None of them post all that much but when they do and if they are town they usually have something very important to say.

Which is why I am still on the fence about iMac. Yes I know he claimed but his post lack something. SM's posts have been that way as well. Now I am not sure what C-Bot saw so I could not tell you that.

[Antithesis]

nah he got hit by a stray bullet

why thank you, my good man

heh my first thoughts as well :D

as to the first part here i agree with the general sentiment behind it in that in several games in the past games have got bogged down due to people not being able to move on from roles/players causing roundabout distractions

as for astil in particular im tbh not drawn particularly strongly either way yet, it certainly seems a difficult role to have/win with and would make more sence if it was simply a townie with an extra win condition however its certainly not beyond possibility for taker to have thrown in a role such as this

as for the second pharagraph of anti's quote true indeed

whilst i agree to a certain extent do this too much and all you'll end up doing is going round in circles arguing over what may or may not be possible whilst the scum will then have free rain to cause havoc

i do believe he already admitted to being an indy

tend to agree with most here at least in terms of where the deaths are not sure on number 8 though and not sure exactly why your adding words to quotes to make them sound 'more like' characters



not sure how someone tipping acid into someones face makes a recruitment tbh



well now then

Vote: Bak42

hmm interesting, not removing my vote until someone gives me a good reason as to bsk coming up scum to OLF's investigation

corrected

why would the scum frame bak though? no offense to him but wouldn't be on my top targets for that if i where scum, mind you saying that wouldn't be one of my top targets for investigation either

this maybe an odd question but with astil saying he did find you as mr smith last night did YOU get a pm or anything about it

this pretty much sums up my thoughts

well crap, have to say i am surprised by this

possibly though we still have only the same three 'potential' kill segments from day one and whilst there looked to be a definite role block this time there wasnt night 1 yet still only two victims then as well

ok caught up

first off not exactly sure why comeradebots got a vote on me other than 'something i said' difficult to defend against that when i have absolutely no idea what that might be

as for myself being quite i think other than star wars (both 1+3) where i had something to contribute theamaticly i tend to be quiete untill something catches my notice that someone else hasnt already which brings me to our current direction, i did bring it up on day 2 that it was odd that glot hadn't gotten a pm considering that astil had supposedly 'found' him, with the recent evidence

Vote: Astil

ooh seemingly missed this on my way through, this is certainly interesting seeing as we have enough votes on astil for now for him to answer questions i think i'll do this

Change Vote: Destiny

care to explain this destiny?

scum can also cover there tracks by helping to speedy lynch someone who isnt

still unsure about the destiny situation but astil defiantly needs to go so

Change Vote: Astil

Sum Total of SM's contribution so far

[Paws7297]

Didn't an hour ago you said I might be the Don?

Now you're gonna vote with me?
Nah, I think he's voting with C-bot :p
Im drowsy and dont feel like looking

what made sm suspicious i nthe first place?

Go look.

As I stated earlier I think sm is the best way to go for now. Vote: Supermareo That should be enough pressure for now.

Now it's my bedtime, I have to get up early in th morning. I'm getting my hair done. (finally.......)

[Teh_Showtime]

For now until the town realizes you are the don.

so in theory, you will vote WITH the don (and you know he's the don possibly) to help take out people on his hit list?

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[Antithesis]

Just looked over SM posts, and I think we should be asking questions of him.

So SM I guess the standard questions apply:

Do you go out at night?

What decade is your movie from?

Why did you and your Scum friends kill Destiny...oh wait never mind that question.:D

if.. If.. IF The Two killed Hellshock, and there wasn't a switch, the SK killed Destiny, quite possibly under the belief that Destiny may have been scum.

Which brings up a point i made earlier this phase. Could be the SK is hunting them.

There is another option though.

2 Small scum groups, 1 solitary cult recruiter, and some Indy's that can maybe be recruited to any side.

[BHK1978]

if.. If.. IF The Two killed Hellshock, and there wasn't a switch, the SK killed Destiny, quite possibly under the belief that Destiny may have been scum.

Which brings up a point i made earlier this phase. Could be the SK is hunting them.

There is another option though.

2 Small scum groups, 1 solitary cult recruiter, and some Indy's that can maybe be recruited to any side.

That was a joke about the Scum having anything to do with the death of Destiny. It is the exact same question I ask Destiny at the start of every game. Which he has yet to respond to...

[BHK1978]

I have enough suspicion about SM at this time. And yes I hate to do this because he did save me in SW3 but this is a different game so:

Vote: Supermareo

[BlueStar]

Whatever did RA do to let off the pressure except making another no-post? Did I miss anything?

Anyway...


Change vote: supermareo

Because he's another one of the quiet ones we need info on and because he's scum 90% of the time.

[BHK1978]

Whatever did RA do to let off the pressure except making another no-post? Did I miss anything?

Anyway...


Change vote: supermareo

Because he's another one of the quiet ones we need info on and because he's scum 90% of the time.

She did hint about her character earlier. That being said I am at a loss as to what role said character could possibly have in a game like this. That is if I even got the hint right, which I usually do not.

[Jman2k3]

so in theory, you will vote WITH the don (and you know he's the don possibly) to help take out people on his hit list?

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Read Paws comment above yours.

[Jaded]

Neutral (No decision one way or another yet but have thoughts on):
Jaded - look into next


*sighs*

Have you read ANY of my posts?

[Jman2k3]

*sighs*

Have you read ANY of my posts?

Apparently not lol.

[Max Peck]

She did hint about her character earlier. That being said I am at a loss as to what role said character could possibly have in a game like this. That is if I even got the hint right, which I usually do not.

I am positive I got the hint, the theme is movies, it seems logical that there would be some roles that would seem off the wall like that.

[BlueStar]

I am positive I got the hint, the theme is movies, it seems logical that there would be some roles that would seem off the wall like that.

I missed it, I think. Or didn't get it.

[Max Peck]

I missed it, I think. Or didn't get it.

Yeah, I was pretty clueless, until I read all her posts, especially a few seemingly off topic ones with MLT.

[BlueStar]

Okay....lol.

[SuperOwens]

Okay first off. I would never make up an excuse about not having internet access, whether town or scum. Just see it as a cheap way of avoiding the thread.

This will prob be the last time I'm on until Sunday night, back home, seeing my Dad as it was his birthday last week and mine a couple of weeks before.

Okay, that said. Speculation that the hairdreser is scum. Yes? Somebody targetted said hairdresser. Yes? If its scum doing the targetting, hairdresser is prob not scum. If its town, why not tell people?

just seems like something obvious we could have concentrated on this phase. If thats you, and your town, share it now.

Otherwise im going to consider the hairdresser a missguided townie.

[BlueStar]

Paws,

Is your team all related to the same movie?

[Max Peck]

I also never agreed on any of your theories..... Hmmm this game I am less agreeable than ever I just noticed. Maybe it's because your theories are random and a bunch of crap?

I didn't wanna say it, but there it is....

[Crychon]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 3 (Max Peck, Smartbomb, Teh Showtime)
Reblliousangel: 1 (Jaded)
supermareo: 6 (Comradebot, Antithesis, Jman2k3, Paws7297, BHK1978, BlueStar)
Paws7297: 1 (Kobe1724)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Max Peck]

Change Vote: supermareo

If this goes bad I will call for Comradebot's head tomorrow.....

[BlueStar]

Do we have anything but a hunch on Supermareo?

[Max Peck]

Do we have anything but a hunch on Supermareo?

Unless it's written in a secret code that only some people can fathom, no....

[Teh_Showtime]

change vote unvote

[BlueStar]

I can't help but to think there's something in the N2 write-up that we're missing...

The Two is the one that kills MLT. Who kills The Shape? An SK? A Vig? Another colour that we haven't seen. The Vampire Cult (which seems strange as I'd guess Cults recruit instead of kill)?

[SmartBomb]

Maybe it wasn't in the write- blasphemy.

Didn't somebody suggest that Vampires could kill mafia... though I don't know why masterded would target such a scummy member. But that's WIFOM.

Vampire killed Shape, Two killed MLT?

[iMac]

The write up makes me think it was Dr. Evil who killed MLT.

[supermareo]

o...k im away for a day and people start jumping on a bandwagon on me thats down to a 'feeling' sigh

So... the scum have two roles used to help their killer? Whatever, sm is scum and were wasting time where we could pressure him. Supermareo, actor, decade, ect

nope sorry not scum

Just looked over SM posts, and I think we should be asking questions of him.

So SM I guess the standard questions apply:

Do you go out at night?

What decade is your movie from?

Why did you and your Scum friends kill Destiny...oh wait never mind that question.:D

no i dont go out at night, movies form the 70's 80's and 00's

Whatever did RA do to let off the pressure except making another no-post? Did I miss anything?

Anyway...


Change vote: supermareo

Because he's another one of the quiet ones we need info on and because he's scum 90% of the time.

scum 90% of the time:confused: umm iv been scum a mere three times out of all the games iv played hardly 90%

[supermareo]

Do we have anything but a hunch on Supermareo?

nope just comeradebot doing his Quasimodo impression

[Antithesis]

SM

What do you think abut the situation with Jman and Showtime?

Inadvertant and Destiny?

Your opinions of Cbot, Rev, and Gabbo?

[Crychon]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 2 (Max Peck, Smartbomb)
Reblliousangel: 1 (Jaded)
supermareo: 7 (Comradebot, Antithesis, Jman2k3, Paws7297, BHK1978, BlueStar, Max Peck)
Paws7297: 1 (Kobe1724)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Imarevenant]

Your opinions of Cbot, Rev, and Gabbo?

What would you like to know about me since I seem to be on your mind so much?

[Antithesis]

What would you like to know about me since I seem to be on your mind so much?

What are ya wearing right now? :D

[Imarevenant]

T-shirt and shorts. Nothing exciting :p

[Antithesis]

T-shirt and shorts. Nothing exciting :p

Damnit, oh well.

[Imarevenant]

Damnit, oh well.

Well I could throw on my tux if you'd like. I mean an outfit like that can be useful in various situations. Though perhaps now is not the time.

Maybe just my chaps and pink bunny slippers then? :p

[Antithesis]

Well I could throw on my tux if you'd like. I mean an outfit like that can be useful in various situations. Though perhaps now is not the time.

Maybe just my chaps and pink bunny slippers then? :p

If thats a hint, then i don't wanna know what movie your from....

[Imarevenant]

If thats a hint, then i don't wanna know what movie your from....

Yeah i was quite surprised to see Taker added one of his home made rubber duck movies myself...

[Kobe1724]

I've dreamed on it and I still don't know. :o

I'll jump on the Mareo bandwagon worst comes to worst, but right now I'm going to do some back reading on Shape and Two. :)

Jman seems scummy, but the way he sent the vote Mareo's way is either pro or her has some help from scum buddies. I'm going to look into the vote order and the people that voted on Mareo right after Jman and see if they share any consistencies Twp and Shape.

Also, consider my current scum list trash. MNNA, Anti, SmartBomb and Paws need to be looked into a bit more, but for the record I believe MNN's claim, am ambivalent on SmartBomb's claim, skeptical about Paws's claim and feel something is off with Anti.

[Kobe1724]

Well... actually I still believe Paws and SmartBomb are very likely scum, but I can't prove SmartBomb's lying and Paws has full claimed so I logically have to leave her alone (she waited long enough and her claim is just dubious enough coupled with the other stuff surrounding her that maybe this is what she came up with after consulting her scum buddies...).

Antithesis seems scummy enough that MNN's result makes me want to look into him. Could the scum have identified masterded in some way and then outted him to make MNN look town? Maybe, but unlikely. Most likely they are both town, but maybe the Anti result MNN got back is flawed. Imo it's a really high level don play to get very involved in the game early to have the PI investigate you. They get back a town result, and then you can use the PI to your advantage the rest of the game. Anti is capable of thinking this way, and in many ways it's even likely he would do this if he were the don.


But like I said, there are too many variables. So I'm scrapping the current iteration of my list.

[Kobe1724]

Well, obviously early in the game Shape was going for that aggressive townie vibe... probably got himself killed by the SK.

Thats something else they have to consider.

Sometimes Scum do some crazy stuff, buts either because

1) they have some mechanism at their disposal they can fool the town with (Shape in lakeside)

2) They have such a highly regarded member amongst them situated in such a way he can mislead the town to its destruction (Outlaw in Marvel mafia and the Simpsons)

Since there are many newer players now who are unimpressed by Multiple Time Scummy Award Winners, 2 is tougher to pull off.

Myself I'd look at CFC as a blue print. Kill off power roles and veterans who can read other players and just leave newer folks who havent shown a habit of backtracking and sifting through other information.

Its what we did in CC mafia, killed the biggest threats first, left the players mostly worried about their "survival" over "winning" and lead them all to their destruction.

Which reminds me, why are Gabbo and C-bot still alive, anyway? Its not like they claimed to be bulletproof or anything...

Also, CFC is a very high level scum blue print, although I'm stunned Derek didn't catch the scum that game. I really started to think he might be scum just because he was so inactive for big chunks. Maybe he really was just that busy. :)

[Tha Black Phenom]

Sorry to have been away all day(or at least most of the day), I've been preparing and working all around the house for my aunt's 50th birthday(and my mom's, they celebrate the same birthday so it's pretty big). I could only check on GDS but not post anything which would make me look like some e-Zorro or something.

Apparently not logging on for a day to do some labor work makes you scum, though. Lol. Time to catch up.

[BlueStar]

o...k im away for a day and people start jumping on a bandwagon on me thats down to a 'feeling' sigh



nope sorry not scum



no i dont go out at night, movies form the 70's 80's and 00's



scum 90% of the time:confused: umm iv been scum a mere three times out of all the games iv played hardly 90%

That lacks the 90's...

Uhm...

Throw me a bone here.

[BlueStar]

I'm around for the deadline.

Change vote: no vote

Not sure at all on supermareo. Didn't even realise Rev was playing until now. Odds are he's our SK (GDS-history wise).

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

jman2k3: 2 (Max Peck, Smartbomb)
Reblliousangel: 1 (Jaded)
supermareo: 6 (Comradebot, Antithesis, Jman2k3, Paws7297, BHK1978, Max Peck)
Paws7297: 1 (Kobe1724)

It is now Day 5. With 22 players remaining, it takes 12 to lynch. You have until Sunday 1st August, 12:00am BST (Saturday 31st July 7pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.[/QUOTE]

[Jaded]

Not all that convinced here, but Supermareo's defence isn't exactly filling me with confidence either.

Change vote: Supermareo

[Jaded]

Not all that convinced here, but Supermareo's defence isn't exactly filling me with confidence either.

Change vote: Supermareo

BTW, will be back before deadline if you want to defend yourself more, SM.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Which it often is. GruntMark was the sole Cancer aligned person at the start of Medical Mafia, and since the scum killed him night one they took the Cult out. In Lakeside, MNN was (sort of) alone as the Cult Recruiter at the start. He got lynched, GruntMark (his only recruit) got lynched, game over for the Cult.

So yeah, I'd guess Dracula was alone at the start, giving us the opportunity to avoid a long and painful scum hunt for cult members if we nailed him early enough. At best, he might, MIGHT have started with one more person. Gut says that's probably not the case, though.

Don't forget Outbreak and Rev killing Las Plagas early on... I was so bummed, could've been a nice factor into the game.

Assuming you're telling the truth, the hairdresser is most likely scum then

.../sigh

Looks like somebody targeted the hair dresser last night

?

Max Peck, BHK's defensiveness is intriguing me. Think everything's OK with him? What about you? Everything RK with you?

Either he's scum or he's a townie with a lot to hide. For some reason, I'm leaning the latter.

This. Or a townie not reading.

Tracker and the role he is claiming are a good fit I would say. But, I would be interested to see if anybody else can see themselves in that spot

Or a townie who is very conflicted.


The only "evil" hair-person I can think of is Sweeney, and I really don't think that's him for some reason. So I guess there's a chance that the hairdresser is the scum roleblocker, hell, maybe the innocence of a hairdresser is SUPPOSED to throw us off, but I just don't know.

Hey wait a minute. We already have a claimed town roleblocker. >.<

Yes we do! What does that tell ya!

Tha Black Phenom, your name is down there. What's your thoughts?

You saw me online then? Bah, excuse my dear self.

Scum keep a "What we know list" in their threads/forums (based on what I've seen of them in post games), so I think towns should do the same.

So you can go ahead and give scum their remaining notes? See, this is part of why we won in CFC. We knew a lot. Townies claimed so so early and because of several different lucky circumstances, we ended up snatching the win.

If you know a lot, keep it to yourself for the most part. You can share things, but don't open the whole f'ing box for the scum to see.

What I mean is that the scum have all of the information shared in the topic and work together using that information to come up with ways to deceive the town.

A smart and observant town member can accumulate most of the information in the topic and use that to help profile potential scum and fellow town. But he or she can never view that information through as many different context as scum (who are working together and sharing ideas). They will also miss things, either because one mind is fallible, or conversely will undervalue or overvalue certain things that can provide incredible insight.

I won't make a list of known stuff this game (too troublesome to go back and do so given that I hone in on 3 or 4 posters at a time and ignore everything else until I decide I'm interested in another group of posters), but next game I'll try it, I think. ^_^

I'd love to be scum in that game, then.

Who said I was an actual Nexus? :cool:

I'm a 50/50 Nexus. It's close enough to a real nexus to claim out Anti when I thought he was one.

Of course, 50/50 nexuses can still be killed, so I didn't see a good reason to claim the rest. And no-one was going to target me.... except the new person and the person who gives nothing about roleclaims. :rolleyes:

Huh. Seems... fitting. At least in accordance with me.

Mason?

Heh.

Talking of which, there's a cult, one or two serial killers plus a mafia. Is anyone surprised about the lack of a mason in this game?

I'm not surprised about the lack of it being mentioned 'till now.

Also, I wonder why scum don't try and pull off grand plots. Anything else is just banking on town incompetence.

There have been. Most of them fell through.

And thus, not many are attempted.

How about we lynch you.

Vote: Antithesis

HA!

Gotta go out again, will say something when I get back. Stupid labor work...

[BlueStar]

Not all that convinced here, but Supermareo's defence isn't exactly filling me with confidence either.

Change vote: Supermareo

Not sure either, but I'd put resources into this one tbh. Rather that than a blind lynch.

No 90' movie....but a '00 one. Not sure what that could be...got to be a remake in the 2000's...but of what?

[Kobe1724]

The Two's (Confirmed Scum) Interactions:

1. Interacted with MLT (Confirmed Town) (#323). The original comment was post #268 and Shape also commented on it two post later. Meant nothing, though (Two thought the post referenced him but it didn't, and it was directed at Shape by MLT). The 2nd response was an early indication The Two was scum, however.

2. Interacted with Astil (Confirmed self alignent) commenting on a non-town alignment comment (#323).

3. Agreed with MLT (confirmed town) and Antithesis (unknown) that Astil had a plausible win condition - post #476.

4. Continued conversation with Antithesis began in post #476 about a previous game (#479) related to stil's claimed win condition.

5. #1001 - Claims he didn't want to lynch bak42 before he had a chance to respond (claim). Was this a fluff post or was he trying to gauge if bak was a role the scum wanted to keep around? Also in post #1001:

Tells Inadvertant the purpose of a Miller, and disusses with confirmed scum The Shape the reasoning behind why ZeroTeen09 was replaced. Also holds off on voting for a lynch of bak42.

6. #1002 - Fluff post.

7. #1004 - Follow up on fluff post. He was trying to learn more about bak42 in both, however.

8. #1005 - A third post on the nonsense movie bak42 was in. Heh.

9. #1425 - Sometime later he promptly votes on masterded after he is confirmed to be a vamp.

10. #1635 - Very strong post in favor of a masterded lynch.

11. #1690 - Post responding to glotnot (he was wondering if the other vampires in the cult would go back to human with the dead of Masterded). The Two thought the odds were low.

12. #1713 - Responded to my claim of being upset with my role with a response that it must be because I was sad my leader died. :)

13. #1888 - Inadvertant claims that MH hid behind confimed town Destiny (we now know this is probably wrong), which The Two thinks is "Interesting". Inadvertant also believed Astil's claim. The Two also wanted to lynch Astil at this point. He agrees with Jaded's assesment that glot is Smith and that Astil is Hertz. He was right. Coupled with the bak42 stuff, we now have a trend - TheTwo is making conservative, non conroversial statements as it relates to who he believes to be scum. He isn't forming theories, but is jumping on bandwagons. I'm liking me thought process that Paws is scum more and more.

14. #2040 - The Two says he is strongly in favor of lynching Astil in response to some claims he made. Applying significant pressure. Also accuses me of looking scummy in response to wanting to wait a day to lynch Astil. He stops short of a straight up accusation, however. Interesting. Conservative statements indeed. Anyone that wants to: read the post I'm talking about so far under context and tell me you disagree.

15. #2041 - Applies pressure to hellshock (confirmed self aligned) after I have in the form of an innocent question. Similar to his handling of bak42. We know hellshock was not with this scum group and so this reads as either pagentry or fishing to me. The Two later visited hellshock according to Showtime, and was killed. Let's keep reading.

16. #2051 - Lots of question marks and "What?" responses to my statements on Astil. Max Peck follows up with "QFT". in post #2053. Not a direct interaction, but after I've looked at all of The Shape and The Two's responses I'll look into him.

mjdgoldeneye is dead, he was Eddie "The Hudson Hawk" Hawkins, Good Aligned Master Thief
Zeel1 is dead, he was Roger Murtaugh, Good Aligned Too Old For This *poop* Cop
MichiganHero is dead, he was Newt, Good Aligned Elusive Child

17. #2057 - More Astil fishing - The Two wants to know if Astil is scum/indy they can trust or else get a lynch to look town.

18. #2061 - More pagentry with Astil.

19. #2072 - Accuses me of being scummy looking, and continues Astil pressure. Probably the most direct statement he's made all game concering a scum accusation at this point. MNN co-signs. Max has already co-signed before hand.

20. #2088 - More Astil pressure.

21. #2240 - More Astil pressure, and also a response co-signing with CBot that he should hang.

22. #2304 - The Two believes that MLT was possibly role blocked n1 in response to a theory RA had. This is the most speculative post he's had so far. It leads me to believe there is some truth to it. If we look into the n1 write up we may find something helpful here.

The Two goes quiet after this. It's notable that mere post after his last I say I'm going to target hellshock. He dies that night having apparently targeted hellshock or having been targeted by hellshock. We also know that he dropped his inquiry of hellshock rather quickly. MLT, hellshock, The Two. These people are all dead, all part of different groups and all related in some way. I think I'll go through The Shape's posting history now.

[Kobe1724]

Don't forget Outbreak and Rev killing Las Plagas early on... I was so bummed, could've been a nice factor into the game.



.../sigh



?



Either he's scum or he's a townie with a lot to hide. For some reason, I'm leaning the latter.



Or a townie who is very conflicted.



Yes we do! What does that tell ya!



You saw me online then? Bah, excuse my dear self.



So you can go ahead and give scum their remaining notes? See, this is part of why we won in CFC. We knew a lot. Townies claimed so so early and because of several different lucky circumstances, we ended up snatching the win.

If you know a lot, keep it to yourself for the most part. You can share things, but don't open the whole f'ing box for the scum to see.



I'd love to be scum in that game, then.



Huh. Seems... fitting. At least in accordance with me.



I'm not surprised about the lack of it being mentioned 'till now.



There have been. Most of them fell through.

And thus, not many are attempted.



HA!

Gotta go out again, will say something when I get back. Stupid labor work...

I have some thoughts on you after this post, but I'll unpack them later.

[Jaded]

No 90' movie....but a '00 one. Not sure what that could be...got to be a remake in the 2000's...but of what?

There's one remake I can think of in the 2000's which fits the bill, but if anything, that's STRONG incentive to lynch - Michael Myers?!

[Kobe1724]

23. Destiny is dead, he was Jar Jar Binks, Good Aligned Annoying Gungan
28. The Two is dead, he was Judge Doom, Corleone Family Aligned Insane Toon
33. hellshock70 is dead, he was [B]Wolf, Self Aligned Elite Hunter

Hmmm...

Maybe the SK killed The Two, The Two killed hellshock and our vig killed Destiny?

[Comradebot]

Hmmm...

Maybe the SK killed The Two, The Two killed hellshock and our vig killed Destiny?

If our Vig is the blade killer, they're doing an awful job.

[Antithesis]

.../sigh





You know something?

[Kobe1724]

If our Vig is the blade killer, they're doing an awful job.

I'm bored. Going to the gym be back later. ^_^

Random though: Paws is scum. I'm almost sure of it. MNN is town. Antithesis could go either way.

Also, scum are being very safe right now and non-controversial. They aren't giving much information but are also going with ideas that are commonly accepted at the time to stay under the radar. Inactivity isn't necessarily indicative of scummyness. If we look for those attributes in posters we should find our scum.

[Jaded]

Maybe the SK killed The Two, The Two killed hellshock and our vig killed Destiny?

Someone has already claimed he was the guy who killed the Two, and seems fairly believable.

[Antithesis]

Someone has already claimed he was the guy who killed the Two, and seems fairly believable.

The hint, several write ups, they all back him up. Aside from the possibility he was vamperized, he's probably the closest thing we have to 'proven' yet.

Wish he'd add more, tbh.