The Official Movieland Massacre Game Thread

[Undertaker666]

Night 7.

*************

There was a scratching sound coming from the door. Opening the door, to his horror to his horror a small creature leap onto him, scratching and clawing.

*************

As he lay sleeping, a figure silently slipped into his room.

The scream echoed throughout the hotel.

*************

She needed her beauty sleep so she’d gone to bed early once again. Had she been awake she would have noticed the man creeping into the room, cheese-wire in hand.

*************

The man slipped in through the open window and drew his sword, he wasn’t taking any chances this time. He found his target sleeping, and with one swing of his sword he beheaded his victim.

*************

The man burst through the door, weapon in hand. ‘Aha! At last we meet.’. He quickly drove a stake through his victim’s heart. ‘In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.’.

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Comradebot is dead, he was Whitney Miller, Vampire Cult Aligned Vampire
Rebelliousangel is dead, she was Gracie Hart, Good Aligned Beauty Queen
Olivier le Fou is dead, he was Martin Riggs, Vampire Cult Aligned Vampire

Kobe1724 has been hospitalised and can not post for two phases.

[Undertaker666]

Saddened by the death of Gracie Hart, everyone has decided to spend a day in mourning.

It is now Night 8. You have until Monday 8th August 8:00pm BST (Monday 8th August 3:00pm EST to send in your night phase abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.

[Comradebot]

BWAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Good game fellows, shame it had to go like this.

OLF, I love you.

[Olivier le Fou]

OLF, I love you.

/incredibly unamused, but can't stop himself from laughing

Last Words: It's Been Real. It's Been Fun. But It Hasn't Been Real Fun.

Okay, I lied, it totally has.

[Paws7297]

BWAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Good game fellows, shame it had to go like this.

OLF, I love you.

Dammit, I trusted you. Sisters are so mean! :(

It's okay, I forgive you though :cool: It wasn't your fault some mean vamp bit you! :)

[Jaded]

Well, for starters... by any other name I'd smell just as sweet. :cool:


Comradebot is dead, he was Whitney Miller, Vampire Cult Aligned Vampire[/B]

Paws...?!

[iMac]

I'd love a list from Kobe right about now.

:p

[Jaded]

I'd love a list from Kobe right about now.

:p

Yeah... on that subject, sorry Kobe. :o

There were decent reasons NOT to roleblock/silence the majority of people, it wasn't personal. I'm kicking myself over completely believing C-bot and OLF - nice catches, peeps!

[iMac]

Right Jaded, since you're online, I'll throw this theory at you.

OLF made plenty of noise about C-bot being a vampire. OLF knew I was a vampire hunter and encouraged me to go after C-bot.

OLF possibly recruited and killed by scum in same night?

[Jaded]

Possibly, yeah. Tonight's recruitment worries me. It's also interesting OLF was at pains to clear SO, but that depends when he was recruited...

[SuperOwens]

I'm going to be honest here...:p

I wanted to be recruited, it would have been fun and it's never happened before. Its not happened though.

Been thinking for a while that OLF would have been an obvious recruitment choice. Now, recruited last night and then killed? Or just playing culty games.

[Jaded]

Ignore my above post, brain failed!

[Rebelliousangel]

I knew it would happen evenetually, and like I said you can all thank Kobe for this day of mourning.

Good game eveyone! It was fun while it lasted! :D

*beauty queen wave*

[SuperOwens]

If somebody was recruited, would there night actions still happen that night?

[iMac]

If somebody was recruited, would there night actions still happen that night?

I doubt it.

[BHK1978]

I have no clue what the Helsinki, Finland is going on here. What kind of game is it when the best Scum catchers turn out to be Vampires?

[Paws7297]

Paws...?!

Yes I Know. I have alot of explaining to do next phase or if you guys want I'll answer questions in the middle of the night,

Had people took notes at the beginning you guys would have found out I was lying about being Jack. Note: Me and C-bot decided to fake claim Rose and Jack instead of our real characters- Clay and Whitney because we thought Jason was in the game, hunting us.

C-bot was my lil' sister :D Whitney Miller. I am Clay Miller, Good Aligned Older Brother
(Friday the 13th).

[Jaded]

See, given Cbot's original hint, which I thought she was lying about earlier on for reasons known only to you two, I can ALMOST buy this.

[Paws7297]

See, given Cbot's original hint, which I thought she was lying about earlier on for reasons known only to you two, I can ALMOST buy this.

Day phase 1: I stated my character was from the 2000's. Friday the 13th came out in 2009. When Anti and Kobe pressured me I said I was from whatever year the titantic is from. (atm I really can't remember the year.)

Just ask away Jaded. BTW Nice choice for your night action! :D


Also whoever killed my sister and also whoever turned her into a vampire.... Are going to pay!

[SuperOwens]

I doubt it.

Interesting that, coming from you of all people.

[Jaded]

Paws - I know you're not scum, think you're PROBABLY not cult, so no more questions.

Have we given up expecting the kenwyne to take part?

iMac - anything to add about vamps?

[iMac]

Interesting that, coming from you of all people.

Explain

[Paws7297]

Paws - I know you're not scum, think you're PROBABLY not cult, so no more questions.

Have we given up expecting the kenwyne to take part?

iMac - anything to add about vamps?

Ok. :)

BTW To clear up any ability confusion, as far as I know we were both vanilla. And I still am unless for some odd reason Miller is my last name and ability. But I see no reason for Clay to be a miller.

[iMac]

iMac - anything to add about vamps?

Um... no. Should I have anything to add?

[SuperOwens]

Explain

If you are a recruiting cult, who would you recruit? Maybe the player who has the ability to hurt them.

[iMac]

If you are a recruiting cult, who would you recruit? Maybe the player who has the ability to hurt them.

Do you think as of this moment I've been recruited?

[Jaded]

Um... no. Should I have anything to add?

Nah, just wondering.

[Jaded]

Vampire activities... numbers depend whether they started with 1 or 2.

Night 1 - mded recruits a male. (2/3 vamps.)
Night 2 - Someone recruits a figure whose gender isn't specified. Either this or the above one has to be Rev. (3 or 4 vamps.)
Day 3 - We lynch mded. (2 or 3 vamps.)
Night 3 - No recruit
Night 4 - No recruit
Night 5 - Someone recruits a female. This is PROBABLY Cbot, I think. (3/4 vamps.)
Day 6 - We lynch Rev. (2/3 vamps.)
Night 6 - No recruit. (Possibly due to me blocking Cbot.)
Night 7 - One recruit, of a male. Cbot dies, OLF dies. OLF is POSSIBLY recruited and killed on the same night. (1/2 vamps left.)

I'm guessing we have either 1 or 2 scum left, plus the sK. Not looking as good as I'd have hoped here... Remember, I don't actually count as town-aligned, so am no help when it comes to town outnumbering scum/cult - although will obviously vote with town as I think it's my best chance of winning.

So 1/2 scum, 1/2 cult, sK, not-so-cute-anymore survior, means 7-9 townies.

Hmmm... okay, could be worse.

[Jaded]

There's basically one way we could attempt to hit all three of our bases, in Phase Seven...

Lynch Midnightnick during the Day Phase.

Have Jaded target Glotnot, and we'll see what happens.

Have iMac target Comradebot, and work from there.

If OLF is cult at this point, the above post seems absolutely crazy. Therefore, I'm sold on the idea that he DID only get recruited tonight, and immediately killed by scum. (If I was them, I'd have been trying to knock off the guy who was continually leading the town.)

SO... I know what you do, I think. Have we had ANY character hint from you yet?

[iMac]

If OLF is cult at this point, the above post seems absolutely crazy. Therefore, I'm sold on the idea that he DID only get recruited tonight, and immediately killed by scum. (If I was them, I'd have been trying to knock off the guy who was continually leading the town.)


/nod

That was what I was trying to get at earlier.

[Jaded]

/nod

That was what I was trying to get at earlier.

Yup - sorry! I wasn't thinking straight at all then.

[Jaded]

Night Two, he tries to recruit Shape, Shape is Dr. Evil/Corleone Aligned, Shape Dies as a result.


Sorry... messed up earlier, of course. If OLF's theory is right AND the vamps started with just 1 member, they're now all dead. Obviously, OLF's theory could be bunkum if he'd been recruited by the time he posted this... but still doubting that.

[BHK1978]

Bluestar/Ken, Gabbo, and Superowens are the three that we have nothing on claim wise right? So I am thinking one of the has to be some form of a baddie.

[iMac]

Vampire activities... numbers depend whether they started with 1 or 2.

Night 1 - mded recruits a male. (2/3 vamps.)
Night 2 - Someone recruits a figure whose gender isn't specified. Either this or the above one has to be Rev. (3 or 4 vamps.)
Day 3 - We lynch mded. (2 or 3 vamps.)
Night 3 - No recruit
Night 4 - No recruit
Night 5 - Someone recruits a female. This is PROBABLY Cbot, I think. (3/4 vamps.)
Day 6 - We lynch Rev. (2/3 vamps.)
Night 6 - No recruit. (Possibly due to me blocking Cbot.)
Night 7 - One recruit, of a male. Cbot dies, OLF dies. OLF is POSSIBLY recruited and killed on the same night. (1/2 vamps left.)

I'm guessing we have either 1 or 2 scum left, plus the sK. Not looking as good as I'd have hoped here... Remember, I don't actually count as town-aligned, so am no help when it comes to town outnumbering scum/cult - although will obviously vote with town as I think it's my best chance of winning.

So 1/2 scum, 1/2 cult, sK, not-so-cute-anymore survior, means 7-9 townies.

Hmmm... okay, could be worse.

Right, so let's try a new version of this...

Say they start with 1 vampire (Mded)

Night 1 - Mded recruits Rev (2)
Night 2 - Tries to recruit Shape, Shape dies (Still 2)
Day 3 - We lynch Mded (1)
Night 5 - Rev recruits C-Bot (2)
Day 6 - We lynch Rev (1)
Night 7 - C-Bot recruits OLF. C-Bot and OLF killed (0)


That's a best case scenario IMO.

[Jaded]

Bluestar/Ken, Gabbo, and Superowens are the three that we have nothing on claim wise right? So I am thinking one of the has to be some form of a baddie.

From SO's posts, he's suggesting Gabbo's NOT the SK, at least. Also from SO's posts, I've worked out what role (not character) he's claiming. OLF seemed to think that SO was definitely NOT a vampire; as I said above this relies on believing OLF was turned last night and wasn't playing us beforehand.

ATM I trust you completely and I trust iMac completely, everyone else I'm between slightly suspicious of and REALLY suspicious of.

Definitely think lynching Bluestar/Ken wouldn't hurt.

[Glotnot]

British film...Glot's British

No I'm not.

Haha, isn't Glot American, too? Could have sworn he was from Florida. Only because he was bragging about the weather last December. Well, he was complaining, because it was cold for him. But what was cold for him in Florida, would have been paradise for me, up in Minnesota.

Either way, not the important point.

There's basically one way we could attempt to hit all three of our bases, in Phase Seven...

Lynch Midnightnick during the Day Phase.

Have Jaded target Glotnot, and we'll see what happens.

Have iMac target Comradebot, and work from there.

With the lynch of MNN, we find out his true alignment, and we can gauge whether or not he was the liar, or if he was telling the truth about a few people...

Jaded targetting Glotnot should Role-Block him, get him a write-up appearance, and if he does turn out to be our assasin, prevent him from killing. A lack of an assasin kill will be very telling.

iMac's targetting of Comradebot will be able to find out which of our in-game females is our last vampire. With like, three left, methinks the Vampire Cult's Time is winding down...

Jman, you touch either Glotnot or Comradebot with your Bus Drive, and we won't be very happy with you...

:cool:

I've already told you that I show up in every write-up.

I have no clue what the Helsinki, Finland is going on here. What kind of game is it when the best Scum catchers turn out to be Vampires?

The one where the recruiter picks the best and obvious choice?



BTW, I'm assuming there are 1/2 vampires left.

[Jaded]

I've already told you that I show up in every write-up.



Don't believe you... can you point anywhere specifically out?

[Glotnot]

Don't believe you... can you point anywhere specifically out?

I certainly can. Duh.

[BHK1978]

I certainly can. Duh.

Yeah because you are probably the dude killing everyone with panio wire.

[Jaded]

I certainly can. Duh.

You gonna?

[Glotnot]

Yeah because you are probably the dude killing everyone with panio wire.

Yes, because that makes so much sense.

You gonna?

I just did.

[BHK1978]

Night 7.

*************

There was a scratching sound coming from the door. Opening the door, to his horror to his horror a small creature leap onto him, scratching and clawing.

*************

Jaded with Kobe

As he lay sleeping, a figure silently slipped into his room.

The scream echoed throughout the hotel.

OLF possibly becoming a Vampire.

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She needed her beauty sleep so she’d gone to bed early once again. Had she been awake she would have noticed the man creeping into the room, cheese-wire in hand.

RA getting killed by the SK

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The man slipped in through the open window and drew his sword, he wasn’t taking any chances this time. He found his target sleeping, and with one swing of his sword he beheaded his victim.

Sucm killing a possibly just turned OLF?

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The man burst through the door, weapon in hand. ‘Aha! At last we meet.’. He quickly drove a stake through his victim’s heart. ‘In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.’.

iMac killing C-Bot. I say this is iMac because he is speaking in Latin what is said above is, "In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost." Now I highly doubt he killed OLF because he did not know OLF was a Vamp.

So my question Glot is where are you in this write-up?

[iMac]

Um, guys....

*coughs*Glot claimed to be the guy who lies all the time*coughs*

[Glotnot]

So my question Glot is where are you in this write-up?

All of them.

[Glotnot]

Um, guys....

*coughs*Glot claimed to be the guy who lies all the time*coughs*

Did not.

As I said, as part of my role I will appear in every write-up.

[Jaded]

Did not.

As I said, as part of my role I will appear in every write-up.

You're the cameraman?!

[Glotnot]

You're the cameraman?!

What?

[Paws7297]

Not understanding the glot thing.... Taking this to a much more basic level.

Glot are you scum?

[iMac]

Did not.

As I said, as part of my role I will appear in every write-up.

Well let's be fiar here, you've told a ton of lies in this game.

[Glotnot]

Well let's be fiar here, you've told a ton of lies in this game.

No I haven't.

[Paws7297]

No I haven't.

Glot, answer my question please. It wasn't to be funny.... Are you scum?

[iMac]

No I haven't.

Shut your face.

[Paws7297]

Shut your face.

That wasn't very nice...

[iMac]

That wasn't very nice...

I know, but we won't get a stright answer from him.

He's on the wind up and I bit. :(

[BHK1978]

Oh and Kobe thanks a lot for outting RA! We tried to tell you not to do this and this is what we got for it. Now I know you are silenced so don't respond. Just realize that if you are town the Scum may have very well killed RA because you pointed out what her ability was.

[Paws7297]

Oh and Kobe thanks a lot for outting RA! We tried to tell you not to do this and this is what we got for it. Now I know you are silenced so don't respond. Just realize that if you are town the Scum may have very well killed RA because you pointed out what her ability was.

/nod to this!

[Glotnot]

Not understanding the glot thing.... Taking this to a much more basic level.

Glot are you scum?

Drop Dead Fred, Good Aligned Imaginary Tomfoolerist
(Drop Dead Fred)

Your question is dependent on your definition of scum.

[Rebelliousangel]

Oh and Kobe thanks a lot for outting RA! We tried to tell you not to do this and this is what we got for it. Now I know you are silenced so don't respond. Just realize that if you are town the Scum may have very well killed RA because you pointed out what her ability was.

/nod this is why I was trying not to claim.

[Paws7297]

Your question is dependent on your definition of scum.

/facepalm..... Can I get a yes or no answer pretty please?

[BHK1978]

/facepalm..... Can I get a yes or no answer pretty please?

Why would he tell you one way or the other?:confused:

[BHK1978]

What are the chances of UT replacing players who are not active? I know some mods replace right away at the sign of inactivity (dww and Anit) while others seem to not even bother. So I am wondering which section UT falls because it is beyond annoying that Ken and Inda are still in this game and have not posted for what seems to be forever.

[Paws7297]

Why would he tell you one way or the other?:confused:

If he is scum, I assume he will say no. If he is town again I assume he will say no. I'm not trying to get him to tell me he is scum, just that he is not scum but I asume something about his role is keeping him from telling the truth.... So he would say yes unless he really is scum then he'd say no... Then I'd ask him another yes or no question...

Glot I'll be more specific. Are you Corleone Family Aligned?

[BHK1978]

What are the chances of UT replacing players who are not active? I know some mods replace right away at the sign of inactivity (dww and Anit) while others seem to not even bother. So I am wondering which section UT falls because it is beyond annoying that Ken and Inda are still in this game and have not posted for what seems to be forever.

I just want to add one more thing to this thought. I realize they could both be active and not posting (as they could be Scum) much like JesterX did in that one game. However, if they are town it really is annoying because inactivity kills the town. Mistaken being inactive in Scrubs helped us lose that game.

[Glotnot]

/facepalm..... Can I get a yes or no answer pretty please?

Well yeah. You didn't ask for one specifically, so I answered the hardest way I could.

If he is scum, I assume he will say no. If he is town again I assume he will say no. I'm not trying to get him to tell me he is scum, just that he is not scum but I asume something about his role is keeping him from telling the truth.... So he would say yes unless he really is scum then he'd say no... Then I'd ask him another yes or no question...

Glot I'll be more specific. Are you Corleone Family Aligned?

Yes.

You're also assuming I have to answer all of your questions. Which I do.

I feel like this post is going to bite me in the ass later, so I feel that I again have to say that I have to tell the truth about everything concerning my role. Related actions such as what I do don't fall under that category.

[Paws7297]

Well yeah. You didn't ask for one specifically, so I answered the hardest way I could.



Yes.

You're also assuming I have to answer all of your questions. Which I do.

I feel like this post is going to bite me in the ass later, so I feel that I again have to say that I have to tell the truth about everything concerning my role. Related actions such as what I do don't fall under that category.

So you don't have to answer all my questions... You are not Corleone aligned....

You have to lie about your role and related actions do fall under that category....

New question...

What isn't your role title?

[Glotnot]

So you don't have to answer all my questions... You are not Corleone aligned....

You have to lie about your role and related actions do fall under that category....

New question...

What isn't your role title?

I didn't tell you that already.

[iMac]

Drop Dead Fred, Good Aligned Imaginary Tomfoolerist
(Drop Dead Fred)

He's right, he didn't.

[Paws7297]

I didn't tell you that already.

Oh..... Can you direct me to the post that doesn't have your roletitle please? :)

[Paws7297]

He's right, he didn't.

I thought before he said that was his role... heh heh shuddup :p I'm still mad at you for killing my sister.

[iMac]

I thought before he said that was his role... heh heh shuddup :p I'm still mad at you for killing my sister.

*shrugs*

She had to go.

[Paws7297]

Glot, do you have an ability?

And you're in every write-up, correct?

[Paws7297]

*shrugs*

She had to go.

:( regardless of her alignment she was my sister, and you killed her! Now I have to be all alone.

[Glotnot]

Glot, do you have an ability?

And you're in every write-up, correct?

I don't have an ability and yes, I'm in every write-up.

Read back, like, a page, seriously.

[Paws7297]

I don't have an ability and yes, I'm in every write-up.

Read back, like, a page, seriously.

I would if I had computer access..... And thats way more than a page back for me. It's too much trouble on a dsi.... Sorry... :)

Last question till I have a computer to read the questions you have already answered again.....

What isn't your ability?

[Glotnot]

I would if I had computer access..... And thats way more than a page back for me. It's too much trouble on a dsi.... Sorry... :)

Last question till I have a computer to read the questions you have already answered again.....

What isn't your ability?

After much deliberation, I've decided that you should read back and figure that out on your own because it's probably for the best given all circumstances.

No references to my role, booyah.

[Jman2k3]

Vote: TheKenwyne

Unless we get a better lead, lynch the inactive player. The players I think we should look into is Gabbo and Inadvert.

[Max Peck]

Vote: TheKenwyne

Unless we get a better lead, lynch the inactive player. The players I think we should look into is Gabbo and Inadvert.

Umm, isn't it still night phase? or did I miss something....

[Max Peck]

Saddened by the death of Gracie Hart, everyone has decided to spend a day in mourning.

It is now Night 8. You have until Monday 8th August 8:00pm BST (Monday 8th August 3:00pm EST to send in your night phase abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.

Yeah

[Paws7297]

Vote: TheKenwyne

Unless we get a better lead, lynch the inactive player. The players I think we should look into is Gabbo and Inadvert.

Lol. It's night phase again... Beloved Princess was lynched.

[Paws7297]

Lol. It's night phase again... Beloved Princess was lynched.

*killed not lynched...

[Jman2k3]

Umm, isn't it still night phase? or did I miss something....

Didn't see that. Thanks for showing. :o

[BHK1978]

Didn't see that. Thanks for showing. :o

Don't feel bad I almost made the same mistake myself. I was just lucky I caught myself.

[SuperOwens]

Do you think as of this moment I've been recruited?

Could be. I probably would have. Well actually I would have recruited me first. :p

Bluestar/Ken, Gabbo, and Superowens are the three that we have nothing on claim wise right? So I am thinking one of the has to be some form of a baddie.

Gabbo is scum.

And you don't read very well. Really I should kick your arse for that, but I'm to busy eating

[Jaded]

SO... I know what you're claiming to do, I think. Have we had ANY character hint from you yet?

[SuperOwens]

SO... I know what you're claiming to do, I think. Have we had ANY character hint from you yet?

You have

[SuperOwens]

You have

And you dont have to look very far for one.

Recent film as well

[Jaded]

And you dont have to look very far for one.

Recent film as well

I'm missing it, but no worries. You're not high on my suspicion list atm.

[Gabbo]

So, if I should fall tonight. You should ask Gabbo about being in the night 2 write-up described as having a rare night off. ;)


This made for a nice change as he hadn't had any time-off in a while, he'd had a few drinks at the bar and decided to have an early night. Little did he realise someone was waiting for him to return to his room. As he opened the door they grabbed him by the throat and were about to plunge their blades into his chest, when out of nowhere a masked figure appeared and fought off the attacker.

You're claiming this is me? Well, I can guarantee you I haven't done anything during this game so it must be purely flavour. I hardly think one night of activity (apparently N1), constitutes me taking my first break 'in a while' unless it was entirely flavour and referencing my character. Why would I even chose to do nothing N2? Doesn't make sense.

I literally can't do anything. My role states I'm preparing for something, if i'm targeted for anything it disrupts me and voids the night. I need clear nights in order to be ready and thus have my ability.

Do you really think I'd get to N7 (or whatever it is) without being watched, tracked, roleblocked etc? I know for a fact a good few people have targeted me because I haven't had my ability yet. None of them found anything suspicious. Do you really think Zeel wouldn't have investigated me after my quibble with MLT and then again after her death? Come on.

If I trust you, then this is a simple misreading of the write-up.

If I had anything to hide I'd have killed you last night and quite frankly I'm surprised you aren't dead and I'm not framed.

Comradebot is dead, he was Whitney Miller, Vampire Cult Aligned Vampire


Should have listened to me phases ago.

If somebody was recruited, would there night actions still happen that night?

Yes.

Vote: TheKenwyne

Unless we get a better lead, lynch the inactive player. The players I think we should look into is Gabbo and Inadvert.


It's screwy logic like this that makes me doubt your towniness. I'm still weary of the fact you caught scum and didn't say anything until Destiny was completely painted as scum. Then still didn't say anything until I pressed you for it.

Gabbo is scum.

And you don't read very well. Really I should kick your arse for that, but I'm to busy eating


Give it a rest. it's tedious. You know I'm no killer and you know it's unlikely I'm scum, this is just some personal crusade ego trip.

Another thing, if you're claiming what I think you're claiming why haven't you counter claimed someone already? Someone still alive...

If we're considering iMac is not town and NOT the cult killer, that leaves Glot and Kenwynne as the last two scum/SK killers.

[Jaded]

Another thing, if you're claiming what I think you're claiming why haven't you counter claimed someone already? Someone still alive...
/QUOTE]

That question did spring to my mind as well...

[QUOTE=Gabbo;1123075]

If we're considering iMac is not town and NOT the cult killer, that leaves Glot and Kenwynne as the last two scum/SK killers.

Is that a typo?

[Jaded]

Another thing, if you're claiming what I think you're claiming why haven't you counter claimed someone already? Someone still alive...


That question did spring to my mind as well...




If we're considering iMac is not town and NOT the cult killer, that leaves Glot and Kenwynne as the last two scum/SK killers.



Is that a typo?


Sorry, EBWOP.

[Gabbo]

I assume the cult haven't been killing from your response. Meh, unless it is iMac then.



I don't know how people manage playing without any notes. :o

[Jaded]

I assume the cult haven't been killing from your response. Meh, unless it is iMac then.



I don't know how people manage playing without any notes. :o

Okay, I completely screwed up the previous quote again.

When you said about assuming iMac was NOT town, did you mean assuming he is?

[Gabbo]

Yeah.

[SuperOwens]

You're claiming this is me? Well, I can guarantee you I haven't done anything during this game so it must be purely flavour. I hardly think one night of activity (apparently N1), constitutes me taking my first break 'in a while' unless it was entirely flavour and referencing my character. Why would I even chose to do nothing N2? Doesn't make sense.

I literally can't do anything. My role states I'm preparing for something, if i'm targeted for anything it disrupts me and voids the night. I need clear nights in order to be ready and thus have my ability.

Do you really think I'd get to N7 (or whatever it is) without being watched, tracked, roleblocked etc? I know for a fact a good few people have targeted me because I haven't had my ability yet. None of them found anything suspicious. Do you really think Zeel wouldn't have investigated me after my quibble with MLT and then again after her death? Come on.

If I trust you, then this is a simple misreading of the write-up.

If I had anything to hide I'd have killed you last night and quite frankly I'm surprised you aren't dead and I'm not framed.



Should have listened to me phases ago.



Yes.




It's screwy logic like this that makes me doubt your towniness. I'm still weary of the fact you caught scum and didn't say anything until Destiny was completely painted as scum. Then still didn't say anything until I pressed you for it.




Give it a rest. it's tedious. You know I'm no killer and you know it's unlikely I'm scum, this is just some personal crusade ego trip.

Another thing, if you're claiming what I think you're claiming why haven't you counter claimed someone already? Someone still alive...

If we're considering iMac is not town and NOT the cult killer, that leaves Glot and Kenwynne as the last two scum/SK killers.

Not really a crusade. Just a personal opinion.

I'd like to know why its taken to day 7 for you not to have mentioned that targeting you was bad? That seems strange, surely after 7 days you would be getting annoyed and not having an ability.

How long have I been calling you scum, if thats attracted attention to you, I would have thought the smart play would be to say, "listen, I only have an ability if I'm not targeted"

What actually happened was getting any info from you has been a bit like pulling teeth. I asked you on a number of occasions what you meant when you said your ability depending on who targets you. You didn't respond. You have now responded as I forced your hand.

I think maybe you were trying to go with a reverse student claim but have now changed that.

Your play doesn't make any sense for somebody that wants to have an ability. Your basically just sitting back and hoping people dont target you. I'm not sure I believe the ability would exists anyway.

Also, weird that MLT wanted to kill you bad. Weird she was blocked night 1, and then blocked and killed night 2. Scum, would have been better letting her do there job for them wouldn't they, if you were town that is.

As for the counter claim. I guess that would depend on who you think I'm claiming.

[Gabbo]

If I revealed all early on it would have took only one suspicious townie, or scum tactic to target me every/most nights and I'm nothing. So I thought hanging back would have been my best bet of suceeding early on, getting my ability and revealing the masterplan. Didn't pan out like that but I did what I thought best, maybe you'd have played it differently. I've never had or seen this role before so I had no point of reference.

As for MLT, I'd think scum would want the town vig gone asap, regardless.

[SuperOwens]

If I revealed all early on it would have took only one suspicious townie, or scum tactic to target me every/most nights and I'm nothing. So I thought hanging back would have been my best bet of suceeding early on, getting my ability and revealing the masterplan. Didn't pan out like that but I did what I thought best, maybe you'd have played it differently. I've never had or seen this role before so I had no point of reference.

As for MLT, I'd think scum would want the town vig gone asap, regardless.

Depends on your ability I guess. But look at it from this point, If we lynch you and you turn up town. What do we lose?

You know I think your a very very good player, I wouldn't have targeted you if I didn't. But you haven't been about much this game, though that happens. You don't have an ability and may never have one.

Thing about the MLT situation is you said yourself you knew she had a kill and was coming after you. Scum knew as well I'd wager. May as well let her take down a townie first. Hell, a vig can be as good as a kill for the scum in the early game.

[iMac]

Lol at chat that I'm cult. Laughable idea tbh.

[SuperOwens]

Lol at chat that I'm cult. Laughable idea tbh.

Why?

[iMac]

Cos I offed C-Bot last night. And we've already worked out that OLF was the recruit last night.

So basically you're saying I was recruited at least 2 nights ago, then killed a vampire team mate.

As I said, laughable.

[SuperOwens]

Cos I offed C-Bot last night. And we've already worked out that OLF was the recruit last night.

So basically you're saying I was recruited at least 2 nights ago, then killed a vampire team mate.

As I said, laughable.

And who is the we that has worked this out excatly? You mean, its your opinion that's what happened.

Your not likely to say you have been recruited are you? I actually agree with Gabbo on this, I think the recruited person would carry on with there night actions as recruitment happens whilst they sleep. You disagree, obviously.

I know plenty of examples of people bussing there own team by the way. In fact for OLF, he suggested RA as a viable target to start off with. Whats he likely to do in that situation, make a massive song and dance about bot not being a vamp. Of course not.

Its laughable to take everything said in the game thread at face value. Still, tonight we shall see wont we.

[iMac]

God. I give up. If you're not gonna read the write ups and use logic, then I'm not gonna do it for you.

Laughable.

[SuperOwens]

God. I give up. If you're not gonna read the write ups and use logic, then I'm not gonna do it for you.

Laughable.

Oh dear. You sound upset.

[Undertaker666]

Night phase is over. Writeup to follow shortly.

[Undertaker666]

Night 8.

*************

The man lay sleeping so he didn't notice the figure approaching him in the darkness.

The scream echoed throughout the hotel.

*************

The man burst through the door, weapon in hand, but was met with a sad sight. His target was hanging from ceiling.

*************

The girl was keeping a close eye on her target, perhaps a little too close, as she didn't notice the man creeping up behind her, cheese-wire in hand.

*************

Paws7297 is dead, she was Clay Miller, Good Aligned Older Brother
SuperOwens is dead, he was Hit-Girl, Good Aligned Young Super Hero

TheKenwyne has been hospitalised and can not post for two phases.
Kobe1724 been released from hospital and can now post again.

*************

It is now Day 9. With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You have until Wednesday 11th August 8:00pm BST (Wednesday 11th August 3:00pm EST to reach a majority. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will be declared.

[BHK1978]

Well to point out the obvious, it looks like the Vampires are still around.

I am now wondering if cheese-wire guy could be Gabbo and not Glot.

[BHK1978]

For people who take notes, was there not someone else who claimed miller besides Destiny? I know earlier I said I thought it was SmartBomb but I realized that was wrong. However, I am pretty sure someone else claimed miller.

[iMac]

Well to point out the obvious, it looks like the Vampires are still around.

I am now wondering if cheese-wire guy could be Gabbo and not Glot.

Are you sure?

Second bit is me targetting Paws, and finding Paws already dead.

Third bit is our assasin killing SO.

First bit must be Paws' death surely?

[Paws7297]

The man burst through the door, weapon in hand, but was met with a sad sight. His target was hanging from ceiling.

Paws7297 is dead, she was Clay Miller, Good Aligned Older Brother

Grrr.....

[BHK1978]

Are you sure?

Second bit is me targetting Paws, and finding Paws already dead.

Third bit is our assasin killing SO.

First bit must be Paws' death surely?

I thought she killed herself due to the death of her brother.

And if we are working on OLF turning the night he died. Wouldn't Paws show up Vampire aligned just like OLF did when he died?

[iMac]

Ah, Paws killed herself. That makes more sense.

[BHK1978]

We are probably dealing with at least two Vampires, the SK, and possibly one member of the Corleone Family. Now the Corleone family appeared to not have killed last night, if they did I would think that there would be one more death. So I am wondering if Ken or Kobe is Corleone.

Question because I have never played as Scum I do not know the answer, can the Scum skip a night kill if they choose to?

[Jaded]

Five dead corleones... They CAN'T have started with just five, can they?

Gotta be at least one left, plus sk, plus two vamps... Ouch.

[Glotnot]

We are probably dealing with at least two Vampires, the SK, and possibly one member of the Corleone Family. Now the Corleone family appeared to not have killed last night, if they did I would think that there would be one more death. So I am wondering if Ken or Kobe is Corleone.

Question because I have never played as Scum I do not know the answer, can the Scum skip a night kill if they choose to?

They can.

2/3 vampires and a killer left.

3 scum at minimum, up to 5 if the cheese wire guy has a partner.

11 of us total.

We need to book it.

Vote: BHK1978

I still like that route.

[BHK1978]

Like I said I think one Corleone, one SK, and two Vampires at the very least. Would the Vampires have to out number the Scum at the end of the game or could they win with them?

[BHK1978]

This would seem to be a make or break phase for the town so we have to be very careful about who we lynch.

Okay I thought Destiny claimed Miller but for the life of me I could not find it (and before anyone says anything, you should try going through page after page of Destiny's posts it is enough to drive anyone insane). Max Peck is the claimed Miller that I was thinking of.

[Jaded]

Did peck also claim protector, or am I imagining that? SO was also claiming to be a protector and the role seems to fit...

[Jaded]

Glot, is your role title now the same as it was at the start of the game?

[Glotnot]

Glot, is your role title now the same as it was at the start of the game?

Nope.

[BHK1978]

Did peck also claim protector, or am I imagining that? SO was also claiming to be a protector and the role seems to fit...

Upon a quick search of Max's previous posts, I could not find him saying he was a protector. Kobe thought he was a protector, but he refuted her. Granted I did not go over all of his posts.

[BHK1978]

When in doubt Meta-Game. The following is me Meta-Gaming, if you do not want to read this please advert your eyes....


Inadvertant who has not posted for days on end is still active. He was on here last night. Now granted this does not mean anything but I am just putting it out there as food for thought.

[BHK1978]

At this point I would have no problem lynching anyone of the following:

Players:
12. Glotnot: My reason is the way he is playing is odd. Granted it could be role related like he has said but he seems to be out right not wanting to help the town. Could be the SK.

18. Gabbo: Pretty much for the same reasons as Glot. He has not stuck his neck out for the town and he is a player who if town is very capeable of leading the town. The fact that he has been very vague throughout the game leads me to believe he very well might not be town. Could be SK.

21. TheKenwyne/Bluestar: Mostly for being inactive. Also, I truly believe either he or Kobe is part of the Scum team. As they are the two silent players and there was no Scum kill last night. Now here is the thing, Kobe was silenced on night seven.

There were no kills on night eight by the Scum (at least I believe that to be true). Now I guess the question is what is the order of Jaded's attack. Did he attack Kobe and therefore silence her and she was town. Or did he attack her after she pulled off the killing of OLF. I am under the impression that the write-ups are in order but perhaps they are not.

Now with Ken did Jaded attack Ken before the night kill went through?

31. Inadvertant: Has not actively posted in this thread for about a week. Yet has been active on the site.

[Jaded]

Now I guess the question is what is the order of Jaded's attack. Did he attack Kobe and therefore silence her and she was town. Or did he attack her after she pulled off the killing of OLF. I am under the impression that the write-ups are in order but perhaps they are not.


My attack hospitalises people, silences them for the following day phase and roleblocks them for the NEXT night phase. (As opposed to the original ability I had, which roleblocked them for THAT night phase.)

Just wanted to clear that up.

Inadvertant, the Kenwyne, and Gabbo are the three I'm most interested in at the moment.

[BHK1978]

My attack hospitalises people, silences them for the following day phase and roleblocks them for the NEXT night phase. (As opposed to the original ability I had, which roleblocked them for THAT night phase.)

Just wanted to clear that up.

Inadvertant, the Kenwyne, and Gabbo are the three I'm most interested in at the moment.

Well I will say this point blank, I am not above lynching a player who has been silenced (In this case does it really matter because he has not posted since he took over the role), I have done it before. So if Kenwyne is the road we decide to go down, well I will be happy to throw my on him.

[BHK1978]

Well I will say this point blank, I am not above lynching a player who has been silenced (In this case does it really matter because he has not posted since he took over the role), I have done it before. So if Kenwyne is the road we decide to go down, well I will be happy to throw my on him.

Looking at Ken's profile he has not been on since the 2nd of this month. So maybe he is just a case of being inactive.

[Undertaker666]

Vote count:

BHK1978: 1 (Glotnot)

It is now Day 9. With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You have until Wednesday 11th August 8:00pm BST (Wednesday 11th August 3:00pm EST to reach a majority. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Jman2k3]

When in doubt Meta-Game. The following is me Meta-Gaming, if you do not want to read this please advert your eyes....


Inadvertant who has not posted for days on end is still active. He was on here last night. Now granted this does not mean anything but I am just putting it out there as food for thought.

Interesting.

Vote: Inadvertant

[Jaded]

Well I will say this point blank, I am not above lynching a player who has been silenced (In this case does it really matter because he has not posted since he took over the role),

Exactly, which is why I wasn't bothered about silencing him. (I felt bad doing it to Kobe; sorry Kobe!)

Speaking of inactives, though, inadvertant is still worrying me, especially given what BHK said above.

Vote: inadvertant

[Max Peck]

Vote: Inadvertant

Works for me....lack of activity without replacement, yeah that's no bueno...

[Glotnot]

I'm telling you guys, BHK is definitely scum.

[Jaded]

I'm telling you guys, BHK is definitely scum.

See, I'm fairly certain he's NOT red scum. Are you saying he's a vamp/SK, or am I missing something?

[Glotnot]

See, I'm fairly certain he's NOT red scum. Are you saying he's a vamp/SK, or am I missing something?

Yes.

[Undertaker666]

Vote count:

BHK1978: 1 (Glotnot)
Inadvertant: 3 (Jman2k3, Jaded, Max Peck)

It is now Day 9. With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You have until Wednesday 11th August 8:00pm BST (Wednesday 11th August 3:00pm EST to reach a majority. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Jaded]

Are you saying he's a vamp/SK, or am I missing something?

Yes.

Yes to which?! :p

[Glotnot]

Yes to which?! :p

Apparently both.

[Jaded]

Apparently both.

Okay... guess there's a chance of him being a vamp. Would love to know how you're so sure, though.

[BHK1978]

Okay... guess there's a chance of him being a vamp. Would love to know how you're so sure, though.

I am not a vamp but I guess that is what you would expect a vamp to say. I guess if you look at who the Vamps have gone after in this game and then look at me what is the difference? They are all good players and I am not, so I highly doubt the Vamps would change their m.o. and bring me into the fold.

[Glotnot]

Okay... guess there's a chance of him being a vamp. Would love to know how you're so sure, though.

I was going to write stuff but it basically amounts to: "Just am."

[Max Peck]

I was going to write stuff but it basically amounts to: "Just am."

This kind of answer irritates me...you want us to vote on "Just am."???

[BHK1978]

I was going to write stuff but it basically amounts to: "Just am."

Glot aside from telling you what my ability is, I have said everything about my character. Jaded has already guessed what I am so my ability is out there. I realize nothing I say will change your mind.

[Glotnot]

This kind of answer irritates me...you want us to vote on "Just am."???

If I had any reason other than my own perceptions in this thread, which I've already listed several times, do you truly expect me to be able to share given the nature of my role?

No. That would be ridiculous. I've already heavily implied to you what that nature is, how it works, and what it stops me from doing, and given what I've also implied about what I do, does it not seem like what I have to do directly impacts my ability to share I do?

Yes, it does.

If you read my posts, you'd know that. I've been questioned on it multiple times.

If you read my posts, you'd also know my thread-based reasonings for being suspicious of BHK. There were multiple, starting with the hairdresser bit which I admit pales a bit when put in comparison to the quotes he brought up. I still find the whole thing highly suspect, but I don't see it as damning either, as I'd found it to be when I'd thought TBP hadn't hinted at all.

But one of the major reasons that I was brought up as being called scum is because BHK called me scum. Why did BHK call me scum? Because I called him out on the TBP bit.

No more. No less. I called him scum, so he pushed me as being scum and lynchworthy. That comes off as...not a desperate ploy to anyone? That's the sound of panicking scum. Town has no reason to do that. It's not in the mindset. It just doesn't make sense from that perspective, particularly to one who has been a part of so many games.

I know not whether he's red, purple, or black, but I'm as absolutely certain as I can be that he is scum.



Don't get irritated at me for not sharing again something that I've already shared multiple times.

Lern2reed, n00b.

[Glotnot]

Glot aside from telling you what my ability is, I have said everything about my character. Jaded has already guessed what I am so my ability is out there. I realize nothing I say will change your mind.

Anyone can say anything they want about their character and claim it's everything about their character.

You could claim complete and utter bull**** and claim it's your character if you wanted to.

"Oh, I claimed, see, someone got my HINT!"

Yeah, that's ****ing brilliant. As I said when you originally claimed:

1) Not all presidents are good.

2) There's no reason to assume you aren't completely bull****ting, unless I missed something.

[BHK1978]

Anyone can say anything they want about their character and claim it's everything about their character.

You could claim complete and utter bull**** and claim it's your character if you wanted to.

"Oh, I claimed, see, someone got my HINT!"

Yeah, that's ****ing brilliant. As I said when you originally claimed:

1) Not all presidents are good.

2) There's no reason to assume you aren't completely bull****ting, unless I missed something.

You have missed something and I am not going to point it out to you. It is proof of what my ability is.

And yeah of course I think you could be Scum. Yet I think a case can be made for most of the people in this game. At times I have called iMac, Superowens, Jaded, Gabbo, Smartbomb, MLT, and you scum. I call it like I see it and if I think you are playing a Scum like game I will say something.

The fact that you are still around in this game even ups my thoughts that you are Scum because you are to good of a player to leave around if you are town. Who knows prehaps we will both be wrong at the end of this game. If that ends up being the case I will admit to being wrong.

[Max Peck]

If I had any reason other than my own perceptions in this thread, which I've already listed several times, do you truly expect me to be able to share given the nature of my role?

No. That would be ridiculous. I've already heavily implied to you what that nature is, how it works, and what it stops me from doing, and given what I've also implied about what I do, does it not seem like what I have to do directly impacts my ability to share I do?

Yes, it does.

If you read my posts, you'd know that. I've been questioned on it multiple times.

If you read my posts, you'd also know my thread-based reasonings for being suspicious of BHK. There were multiple, starting with the hairdresser bit which I admit pales a bit when put in comparison to the quotes he brought up. I still find the whole thing highly suspect, but I don't see it as damning either, as I'd found it to be when I'd thought TBP hadn't hinted at all.

But one of the major reasons that I was brought up as being called scum is because BHK called me scum. Why did BHK call me scum? Because I called him out on the TBP bit.

No more. No less. I called him scum, so he pushed me as being scum and lynchworthy. That comes off as...not a desperate ploy to anyone? That's the sound of panicking scum. Town has no reason to do that. It's not in the mindset. It just doesn't make sense from that perspective, particularly to one who has been a part of so many games.

I know not whether he's red, purple, or black, but I'm as absolutely certain as I can be that he is scum.



Don't get irritated at me for not sharing again something that I've already shared multiple times.

Lern2reed, n00b.

Yeah, with attitude like that, my vote will stay where it is....

[Kobe1724]

Vote: Glotnot

Afterward, we go for Max Peck.

[Kobe1724]

Also, I knew something was off about Paws. The claim being something other than Leo Dicaprio explains what.

[Kobe1724]

Likely scum
Jman
Glotnot
Max Peck
BHK

Likely Town:

Everyone else

Ambivalent:
Ken

[Max Peck]

Afterward, we go for Max Peck.

Bring it lil' girl.....

I have been honest and forthright about everything my character is.

[Kobe1724]

Bring it lil' girl.....

I have been honest and forthright about everything my character is.

At this point, let's lynch Glot :)

[Kobe1724]

With the cult around, we are probably going to lose this game...

There's no way for us to trust anything anyone says from night to night because they could become a vamp at any instance.

So I'm going to ask that everyone follow my lead now, and I'll do the best I can to get us a win. ^_^

glot needs to hang, just trust me.

[Undertaker666]

Vote count:

BHK1978: 1 (Glotnot)
Inadvertant: 3 (Jman2k3, Jaded, Max Peck)
Glotnot: 1 (Kobe1724)

It is now Day 9. With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You have until Wednesday 11th August 8:00pm BST (Wednesday 11th August 3:00pm EST to reach a majority. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Max Peck]

With the cult around, we are probably going to lose this game...

There's no way for us to trust anything anyone says from night to night because they could become a vamp at any instance.

So I'm going to ask that everyone follow my lead now, and I'll do the best I can to get us a win. ^_^

glot needs to hang, just trust me.

Same goes for you Kobe, convince me why glot is scum.... At this point trust isn't a free commodity.

Just trust me doesn't work....

[Kobe1724]

Okay...

I think this is it...

Likely scum
Jman
Glotnot
BHK

Likely Town:
Everyone else

Ambivalent:
Ken
SmartBomb

[Kobe1724]

Same goes for you Kobe, convince me why glot is scum.... At this point trust isn't a free commodity.

Just trust me doesn't work....

He is definitely lying about his role. Making the play with Astil early in the game and then this "I must lie" stuff.

He's scum.

1. I was wrong about Paws - but she was lying about how role and that may have been what I picked up on.

2. I was right about hellshock. And this when no one suspected him.

3. I was right about MNN. And this when no one else suspected him.

4. I was totally around about RA. I don't have a good excuse.

5. And I was wrong about you... maybe. But regardless, I'm hoping you'll help us get this thing done. It's our last shot, probably. ^_^

[Kobe1724]

No...

Okay, final gelled list. ^_^

Likely scum
Jman
Glotnot
BHK

Likely Town:
Gabbo
Inadvertent
Me

Ambivalent:
Ken
SmartBomb
Jaded
Max Peck
imac

[Max Peck]

He is definitely lying about his role. Making the play with Astil early in the game and then this "I must lie" stuff.

He's scum.

1. I was wrong about Paws - but she was lying about how role and that may have been what I picked up on.

2. I was right about hellshock. And this when no one suspected him.

3. I was right about MNN. And this when no one else suspected him.

4. I was totally around about RA. I don't have a good excuse.

5. And I was wrong about you... maybe. But regardless, I'm hoping you'll help us get this thing done. It's our last shot, probably. ^_^

Going 2 for 5 isn't the best track record (for the record you are incorrect on me, I am town thru and thru...)

However, fair is fair, you did tell me your rationale for Glot....

Change Vote: Glotnot

[Kobe1724]

1. Glot today.

2. BHK tomorrow.

3. Then we decide between Jman and one of the six ? marks on my list.

[Undertaker666]

Vote count:

BHK1978: 1 (Glotnot)
Inadvertant: 2 (Jman2k3, Jaded)
Glotnot: 2 (Kobe1724, Max Peck)

It is now Day 9. With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You have until Wednesday 11th August 8:00pm BST (Wednesday 11th August 3:00pm EST to reach a majority. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Kobe1724]

The scum are all deciding what they should do right now. :cool

[Kobe1724]

Going 2 for 5 isn't the best track record (for the record you are incorrect on me, I am town thru and thru...)

However, fair is fair, you did tell me your rationale for Glot....

Change Vote: Glotnot

Max, I let my emotions cloud my judgment on you, RA and Paws because of what I perceived to be poor, immature behavior on your parts. Regardless, the mistake was mine and the only way for me to correct it is to find the rest of the scum this game. I hope that you're town. Because at least for now, I'm going to ignore everything else and trust you. ^_^

[Max Peck]

Max, I let my emotions cloud my judgment on you, RA and Paws because of what I perceived to be poor, immature behavior on your parts. Regardless, the mistake was mine and the only way for me to correct it is to find the rest of the scum this game. I hope that you're town. Because at least for now, I'm going to ignore everything else and trust you. ^_^

I'll admit my attitude may have become immature towards the end.

[Kobe1724]

I'll admit my attitude may have become immature towards the end.

Well, I can be difficult sometimes so it's kind of understandable. ^_^

Glotnot, what do you have to say for yourself?

[Glotnot]

With the cult around, we are probably going to lose this game...

There's no way for us to trust anything anyone says from night to night because they could become a vamp at any instance.

So I'm going to ask that everyone follow my lead now, and I'll do the best I can to get us a win. ^_^

glot needs to hang, just trust me.

Clearly they shouldn't.

You have missed something and I am not going to point it out to you. It is proof of what my ability is.

And yeah of course I think you could be Scum. Yet I think a case can be made for most of the people in this game. At times I have called iMac, Superowens, Jaded, Gabbo, Smartbomb, MLT, and you scum. I call it like I see it and if I think you are playing a Scum like game I will say something.

The fact that you are still around in this game even ups my thoughts that you are Scum because you are to good of a player to leave around if you are town. Who knows prehaps we will both be wrong at the end of this game. If that ends up being the case I will admit to being wrong.

I'll admit to being wrong too, if I am, but I very much doubt that I'll be needing to do that.

And you're allowed to think I'm scum; but not for such a bull**** reason. Town players NEVER have ANY reason to use the rationale that you did. That is a LAST DITCH scum ploy. Period. If you did that and are Town, I don't even know what to tell you, because that's just...why. WHY. Further more, the fact that it WORKED is just...it makes my head explode inside.

Maybe I asked for it. Maybe I went to far, pushed it to much. I dunno.

He is definitely lying about his role. Making the play with Astil early in the game and then this "I must lie" stuff.

He's scum.

Oh yes my love; I do recall you telling everyone how I was 100% absolute, definitely confirmed Town for several phases.

Why was that again? Oh that's right. Because "How else could I claim Mr. Smith?"

It is an INSANE gamble, isn't it?

Someone claims a character from a movie, so I claim the MAIN CHARACTER from that movie.

It would have been like someone trying to FAKE CLAIM Jack Slater; he was virtually guaranteed to be in the game by the inclusion of Steve Smith.

So then, I do have a question for you: if Karl Hertz was in the game, and almost certainly looking for someone even with the mechanics Astil told us about during his lie, how did I KNOW that Mr. Smith would not be in the game to counterclaim me? Why would I take such a risk? Why would I take such a risk so early?

What would the purpose in such a ploy be?

Pretty much trying to draw fire, since I found myself less useful alive as, instead, a meat shield. In fact, I've come to realizer that THAT is probably the reason I've lived so god damned long in this game. It had absolutely the opposite affect, and no one's tried to kill or recruit me ALL game, avoiding me like the plague, which would be wonderful, save for the fact that it's becoming abundantly clear to me over the course of this conversation that the cult is going to win, and I really wish I HAD been recruited.

Going 2 for 5 isn't the best track record (for the record you are incorrect on me, I am town thru and thru...)

However, fair is fair, you did tell me your rationale for Glot....

Change Vote: Glotnot

No, he actually didn't. If that is freaking passing for "rationale", then why the hell did you have a problem with me saying "Just am", because honest to god, same thing.

[Glotnot]

Well, I can be difficult sometimes so it's kind of understandable. ^_^

Glotnot, what do you have to say for yourself?

I could theoretically tell how why I'm the very last person you want to be lynching at this point in this game, but you would not even come close to believing me.

[Kobe1724]

Clearly they shouldn't.



I'll admit to being wrong too, if I am, but I very much doubt that I'll be needing to do that.

And you're allowed to think I'm scum; but not for such a bull**** reason. Town players NEVER have ANY reason to use the rationale that you did. That is a LAST DITCH scum ploy. Period. If you did that and are Town, I don't even know what to tell you, because that's just...why. WHY. Further more, the fact that it WORKED is just...it makes my head explode inside.

Maybe I asked for it. Maybe I went to far, pushed it to much. I dunno.



Oh yes my love; I do recall you telling everyone how I was 100% absolute, definitely confirmed Town for several phases.

Why was that again? Oh that's right. Because "How else could I claim Mr. Smith?"

It is an INSANE gamble, isn't it?

Someone claims a character from a movie, so I claim the MAIN CHARACTER from that movie.

It would have been like someone trying to FAKE CLAIM Jack Slater; he was virtually guaranteed to be in the game by the inclusion of Steve Smith.

So then, I do have a question for you: if Karl Hertz was in the game, and almost certainly looking for someone even with the mechanics Astil told us about during his lie, how did I KNOW that Mr. Smith would not be in the game to counterclaim me? Why would I take such a risk? Why would I take such a risk so early?

What would the purpose in such a ploy be?

Pretty much trying to draw fire, since I found myself less useful alive as, instead, a meat shield. In fact, I've come to realizer that THAT is probably the reason I've lived so god damned long in this game. It had absolutely the opposite affect, and no one's tried to kill or recruit me ALL game, avoiding me like the plague, which would be wonderful, save for the fact that it's becoming abundantly clear to me over the course of this conversation that the cult is going to win, and I really wish I HAD been recruited.



No, he actually didn't. If that is freaking passing for "rationale", then why the hell did you have a problem with me saying "Just am", because honest to god, same thing.

Glot, do you understand why you have to hang?

Max might be the SK, but your claim that you tried to make yourself a human meat shield carries even less weight to me. Plus, you haven't been anywhere near careful enough with your posting for me to believe your "I must lie about my role" claim.

That, and the fact that it's become increasingly obvious to me that the scum kept me around for so long because I have been wrong about some of the things I've pushed most vehemently makes me think I'm on the right track here. :o

Is the cult going to win?

Probably.

But right now, Paws and RA's death plus my Jaded enforced timeout has me thinking clearly and objectively for the first time all game.

You need to hang.

[Glotnot]

Glot, do you understand why you have to hang?

Max might be the SK, but your claim that you tried to make yourself a human meat shield carries even less weight to me. Plus, you haven't been anywhere near careful enough with your posting for me to believe your "I must lie about my role" claim.

That, and the fact that it's become increasingly obvious to me that the scum kept me around for so long because I have been wrong about some of the things I've pushed most vehemently makes me think I'm on the right track here. :o

Is the cult going to win?

Probably.

But right now, Paws and RA's death plus my Jaded enforced timeout has me thinking clearly and objectively for the first time all game.

You need to hang.

I haven't been careful enough with my claim? I've explicitly told the truth about my role? Where? And how would you even begin to know?

It' not that you've been wrong about everything. It's that you're so often wrong, and that no one takes you seriously anyway.

And okay. You haven't been thinking clearly all game, but now youa re thinking clearly.

Weren't you bragging earlier about the people you were right about?

So you're saying you were right about them, but on accident. Then why were you bragging.

[Kobe1724]

I haven't been careful enough with my claim? I've explicitly told the truth about my role? Where? And how would you even begin to know?

I have a hunch for these sorts of things. And I think we're about to find out if this is a good hunch, aren't we? :cool:

It' not that you've been wrong about everything. It's that you're so often wrong, and that no one takes you seriously anyway.

You don't add up to me in the same way Paws didn't. Sometimes I draw the wrong conclusions from inconsistencies. I'm human. :o

What I do know is that I have a knack for seeing through deception in mafia. It's why I ask so many questions. People's responses give me a window into the truth. What this game has taught me is that some people lie in mafia even though they're town... and sometimes for very good reasons (as well as bad ones). I don't know what your reasons were for lying, but I know that right now everything about you is off. And I know that typically adds up to scum.

And okay. You haven't been thinking clearly all game, but now youa re thinking clearly.

Yeah. ^_^

Weren't you bragging earlier about the people you were right about?

So you're saying you were right about them, but on accident. Then why were you bragging.

Paws, Max Peck and RA caused me to have tunnel vision focusing in on them. I spent so much time on them that I missed a lot of really important things, initially. Like the fact that you're scum. :cool:

[Glotnot]

What I do know is that I have a knack for seeing through deception in mafia. It's why I ask so many questions. People's responses give me a window into the truth. What this game has taught me is that some people lie in mafia even though they're town... and sometimes for very good reasons (as well as bad ones). I don't know what your reasons were for lying, but I know that right now everything about you is off. And I know that typically adds up to scum.


"Sometimes, sometimes Town members lie for good reasons. But I think you're lying, so you mus be SCUM!"

[Kobe1724]

Look, everyone viewing the topic right now in hidden mode and also everyone that will view it later:


This was probably my worst game so far, and not because of how often I was wrong or right. All things considered, I've seen better and worse games on both ends of that spectrum. :o

No... the reason I can recognize that I played poorly this game is because I lost sight of the goal of the game - helping the town. I got so frustrated by some of the players that for the first time I became more interested in proving they were scum than finding whoever was scum.

Having a phase and some change where I wasn't posting and instead having an opportunity to sit back and really allow this game to gel for me got me back to a place where I was looking at the big picture instead of getting pulled into the myopic version of the game I've been focused on so far. There are a lot of reasons for that, but none of that is important. ^_^

What's important is getting rid of this cult, because to be quite honest their weed like tendencies are starting to annoy me. :)

Maybe I'm wrong about glot. In fact, I'm 100% sure it's a possibility.

But of the remaining players, to me he's the most likely to be scum. And if we mis-lynch today and lose two players tomorrow then that's good game town.

So my vote stays. Maybe we could go back through the topic and dissect everything so far, but at this point there isn't enough time, anyone could be scum and no one knows who to trust.

I'm going to ask that you trust me and lynch glot, but I know as well as anyone that people are going to do whatever they want. :cool::cool:

That's my two. :)

[Kobe1724]

"Sometimes, sometimes Town members lie for good reasons. But I think you're lying, so you mus be SCUM!"

Have you ever considered that it's impossible to decipher which of your game comments are part of your alleged role (and thus opposites/lies) and which ones are truths? Do you consider it every time you post? :)

Food for thought.

[Glotnot]

Have you ever considered that it's impossible to decipher which of your game comments are part of your alleged role (and thus opposites/lies) and which ones are truths? Do you consider it every time you post? :)

Food for thought.

Yeah, I actually do.

That's not food for thought, that's a very obvious line of thinking.

[Kobe1724]

Pretty much trying to draw fire, since I found myself less useful alive as, instead, a meat shield. In fact, I've come to realizer that THAT is probably the reason I've lived so god damned long in this game. It had absolutely the opposite affect, and no one's tried to kill or recruit me ALL game, avoiding me like the plague, which would be wonderful, save for the fact that it's becoming abundantly clear to me over the course of this conversation that the cult is going to win, and I really wish I HAD been recruited.

Is this the truth, or a lie? :) And what parts?

Don't bother to answer that.

[Kobe1724]

Glotnot, two questions. I'm going to ask them, and you'll answer them or not. In either case it's unlikely to change my position.

1. Please share with us specifically what you can lie and/or tell the truth about as it relates to game discussion.

2. Please share with us your top 3 scum and top 3 town suspects at this point, including yourself.

[Glotnot]

Glotnot, two questions. I'm going to ask them, and you'll answer them or not. In either case it's unlikely to change my position.

1. Please share with us specifically what you can lie and/or tell the truth about as it relates to game discussion.

2. Please share with us your top 3 scum and top 3 town suspects at this point, including yourself.

1) You don't pay attention either, do you. I have to tell the truth about my role and things that pertain to it.

As such, that quote you just brought up and tried to say was me contradicting this is nothing but you attempting to be a snippy, in-my-face I'm-going-to-use-the-word-jerk-due-to-censorship, since those were my own personal views and actions and had nothing to do with my role.

Now that I think about it, whether or not you're right, that quote is you trying to be a snippy, in-my-face jerk. You were just a snippy, in-my-face-jerk that's also wrong.

2) BHK and Max as scum. Myself as town

You, maybe scum, since you've been acting more like you than you usually do.

I don't know, and to be quite honest, I'm not in the mood to think about it very hard. I had a very good weekend, and a VERY ****ty day that's thrown it all off and made the weekend retroactively not good.

If I didn't have the oddest sensation that I was going to be lynched soon, I'd ask to be replaced.

I've said just about everything there is to be said on this topic, certainly everything that pertains to stopping you from lynching me.

[Kobe1724]

I think that by going back to the point in the game where glot made his claim that he must lie and closely analyzing the quality of questions asked of him, who asked the questions and everyone also elses responses to his initial and subsequent posts we should be able to find the remaining scum.

Over the next day or so I'll do that. ^_^

[Glotnot]

I think that by going back to the point in the game where glot made his claim that he must lie and closely analyzing the quality of questions asked of him, who asked the questions and everyone also elses responses to his initial and subsequent posts we should be able to find the remaining scum.

Over the next day or so I'll do that. ^_^

Have fun with that.

If I'm being honest, your pretentiousness has REALLY been getting on my nerves, so in a way, lynching me and allowing me to just not have to read the thread anymore and catch a post from you is something of a mercy.

I'd really been TRYING to avoid saying anything, but uh, yeah. This shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

Many people have said it. Trying to be constructive, I REALLY think it's something you should work on.

This is game-me saying this, this is real-me. Most people have made supporting comments. You yourself are aware of the sentiment.

You need.

To work.

On it.

Okay? Seriously? It's annoying to the point where it's really hard to ignore how annoying it is.

[Kobe1724]

Have fun with that.

If I'm being honest, your pretentiousness has REALLY been getting on my nerves, so in a way, lynching me and allowing me to just not have to read the thread anymore and catch a post from you is something of a mercy.

I'd really been TRYING to avoid saying anything, but uh, yeah. This shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

Many people have said it. Trying to be constructive, I REALLY think it's something you should work on.

This is game-me saying this, this is real-me. Most people have made supporting comments. You yourself are aware of the sentiment.

You need.

To work.

On it.

Okay? Seriously? It's annoying to the point where it's really hard to ignore how annoying it is.

I don't know what you want to say to this. :o

[Kobe1724]

want *me* to say to this, correction.

[Glotnot]

*ISN'T game me.

My bad.

I'm also totally aware that saying that probably makes me sound pretty pretentious and annoying in my own right.

[Kobe1724]

Alright, friend dozed off, so I'm making a post before I go to bed.

Glot isn't the last vampire. It just wouldn't make sense.

Game started with Masterded in the Vampire Cult. I really don't think the cult started with two. The movie theme this game carries just wouldn't seem to suggest it, in my eyes. Especially after seeing who the Supreme Vampire was.

Night One, he recruits Imarevenant/James Bond.

Night Two, he tries to recruit Shape, Shape is Dr. Evil/Corleone Aligned, Shape Dies as a result.

Day Three, Masterded is lynched off of Midnightnick's Alignment Information.

Night Five, a vampire recruits a female character in the game.

Day Six, Imarevenant gets lynched.

Night Six, no sign of a vampire recruitment.

Remaining Vampire? Is female. Either Comradebot or RebelliousAngel. My money's on RebelliousAngel, but this could go either way.

I'm fairly certain he's not our last vampire, however, I'm not convinced that Glotnot isn't our assasin. We haven't seen him in any write-up's, he hasn't used the ability he's claimed to now have despite numerous chances and people to use it on, and with it being Day Phase Seven, and we don't seem to have Glotnot in any write-up's whatsoever, methinks he's in just about everyone one of them, as our nasty assasin. Haha, I can already see Glot's going to have a hayday with quoting this and trying to tear it apart.

I no longer believe Midnightnick, because with the way he's tried to pain Comradebot as the Corleone Family Aligned "Cleaner" and then tried to segue the connection to Agent 47, I just don't buy it. I'd have maybe bought that piece of a role-title for Judge Doom or someone, but not for what is likely to be their third chosen hitman. I feel bad, because MNN has spoken very highly of me and my townplay this game, but I just don't believe him, with all the recent developments. My list?

Last Vampire: RebelliousAngel (If not her, it's Comradebot)
Assasin: Glotnot
Probably Corleone Aligned: Midnightnick

I've got another name or two on who I think the other Corleone Family Members might be, but considering we don't actually know the size of the family, I'm going to wait before I share my thoughts. I'll stick to the 'one name at a time' method.

And kobe, remind me for when I come back, what is it exactly that your role does, again? Right now, I get the image of your character locked up in his room, on his computer, watching his chosen target over the screen, as though he hacked the hotel security systems or something. What kind of information are you gathering, with such a way of getting it? And is that mental image I get, about right?

With that, I'm off to bed. Town has to ask themselves one question though, before we get too committed, this phase... What's our main goal? Finishing off the vampires before they potentially get the chance to recruit again? Taking out the bald assasin once and for all? Taking another blow at the Corleone's?

If I personally had to pick an order? 1). Kill Assasin, 2). Finish Off Cult Before Another Potential Recruit At Night, 3). Begin the Beginning of The End for the Corleone's.

Off to bed now. Stay Classy, Movieland Massacre. /notarolehintforthosewhohaveforgottenwhoIamalready

Good post from Oliver.

[Glotnot]

I don't know what you want to say to this. :o

Nothing.

I realize you're still going to push to lynch me. It also now occurs to me that that could have been said via PM.

I just personally find it really annoying, as other people have also told you, and I felt like you should be told again, since, I dunno. It seems like something you'd try to work on. Instead of just continuing on with it, doing something several people have expressed distaste with you in doing.

'Cause I feel like you COULD stop doing that and be totally cool. You just...don't.

And I don't know why, I don't know if you're trolling, what, but yeah.

Just, you know. Why.

I mean, there's a difference between kidding and just being a "jerk".

Do you really need to say stuff in a manner that's, in a connotative manner, the equivalent of yelling "I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU AND THIS IS A JOB ONLY I AM QUALIFIED FOR! UPON MY INEVITABLE SUCCESS, I EXPECT ALL OF YOU TO FOLLOW ME BLINDLY BECAUSE IIIIII'M AWESOME!"

[Kobe1724]

Nothing.

I realize you're still going to push to lynch me. It also now occurs to me that that could have been said via PM.

I just personally find it really annoying, as other people have also told you, and I felt like you should be told again, since, I dunno. It seems like something you'd try to work on. Instead of just continuing on with it, doing something several people have expressed distaste with you in doing.

'Cause I feel like you COULD stop doing that and be totally cool. You just...don't.

And I don't know why, I don't know if you're trolling, what, but yeah.

Just, you know. Why.

I mean, there's a difference between kidding and just being a "jerk".

Do you really need to say stuff in a manner that's, in a connotative manner, the equivalent of yelling "I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU AND THIS IS A JOB ONLY I AM QUALIFIED FOR! UPON MY INEVITABLE SUCCESS, I EXPECT ALL OF YOU TO FOLLOW ME BLINDLY BECAUSE IIIIII'M AWESOME!"

I don't really know what you're talking about. :o

Anyone can do what I'm doing. I never claimed otherwise. :)

[Glotnot]

Good post from Oliver.

Right. Pretty sure I already explained how me being the assassin is stupid. Mostly for the reasons I'm assumed to be the assassin.

THe reasons, I was assumed to be the assassin.

Is because.

I claimed.

To be.

An assassin.

However. Olivier accepted the fact that I was claiming to be an assassin.

But did not.

Accept the fact that the assassin I was claiming.

Did not.

Fit the description.

Of the one he said I was.

So simultaneously.

He was accepting. And denying. My claim.

Which is fine. But he had absolutely no reason to think that.

Furthermore, during the period that Olivier said that, you believed my claim as Mr. Smith.

It's the equivalent of:

"I'm Mr. Smith."

"Oh that's cool, we need to find this bald assassin guy. Wait a minute, Mr. Smith is an assassin."

"Yeah, but he's also not bald."

"DON'T CARE ASSASSIN LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!"

I'm also going to bring up an idea that should be really really really really really obvious, and you won't believe it because I'm going to say it and the idea benefits me, but YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN OLIVIER WAS RECRUITED.

[Kobe1724]

Right. Pretty sure I already explained how me being the assassin is stupid. Mostly for the reasons I'm assumed to be the assassin.

THe reasons, I was assumed to be the assassin.

Is because.

I claimed.

To be.

An assassin.

However. Olivier accepted the fact that I was claiming to be an assassin.

But did not.

Accept the fact that the assassin I was claiming.

Did not.

Fit the description.

Of the one he said I was.

So simultaneously.

He was accepting. And denying. My claim.

Which is fine. But he had absolutely no reason to think that.

Furthermore, during the period that Olivier said that, you believed my claim as Mr. Smith.

It's the equivalent of:

"I'm Mr. Smith."

"Oh that's cool, we need to find this bald assassin guy. Wait a minute, Mr. Smith is an assassin."

"Yeah, but he's also not bald."

"DON'T CARE ASSASSIN LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!"

I'm also going to bring up an idea that should be really really really really really obvious, and you won't believe it because I'm going to say it and the idea benefits me, but YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN OLIVIER WAS RECRUITED.

I wonder why everyone is so quiet. Even Max Peck seems to have disappeared...

[Kobe1724]

Btw glot, would your hair length be considered part of your role materials?

[Kobe1724]

I think I'm going to sleep. ^_^

[Glotnot]

Btw glot, would your hair length be considered part of your role materials?

That would be a very good point.

Unfortunately your line of thinking is leaving out one detail.

[Glotnot]

Detail is "which character was I describing".

I'm going to bed as well, actually.

[Paws7297]

You hear the strange noise of two people chomping on popcorn right behind you. You turn around to find nobody there but you still hear the chomping of popcorn right in front of you.

[BHK1978]

I will say this much, I hate games with cults in them! I mean I keep on thinking over and over again who is Cult, who is Scum, and who is the SK. Jman has crossed my mind once again because who else would C-Bot want to bring into the cult. And then I think that would be the obvious choice and therefore it might not be true.

[Jman2k3]

Okay...

I think this is it...

Likely scum
Jman
Glotnot
BHK

Likely Town:
Everyone else

Ambivalent:
Ken
SmartBomb

1. Glot today.

2. BHK tomorrow.

3. Then we decide between Jman and one of the six ? marks on my list.

/shakes head

Just like you were so dead on that Paws was scum and C-Bot was town. :rolleyes:

I will say this much, I hate games with cults in them! I mean I keep on thinking over and over again who is Cult, who is Scum, and who is the SK. Jman has crossed my mind once again because who else would C-Bot want to bring into the cult. And then I think that would be the obvious choice and therefore it might not be true.

Why exactly would he want to bring me in a cult exactly?

[BHK1978]

Why exactly would he want to bring me in a cult exactly?

Because he is your friend and you are a good player.

[Jman2k3]

Because he is your friend and you are a good player.

True, but I doubt he would ever do it because I would be an obvious choice if he did. Never been on his side unless we were paired up in a scum group.

[Jaded]

It would have been like someone trying to FAKE CLAIM Jack Slater; he was virtually guaranteed to be in the game by the inclusion of Steve Smith.


Okay, pretty much everything you've said has got me confused as hell.

That said, looking at the above...

Wha?!

[BHK1978]

Jaded, I know you are no longer town but oddly enough you seem to be the most townie out of everyone. So which direction do you think would be best for us? The Inda one I am not sure about. I really think it has to be between Glot and Gabbo.

[Jman2k3]

Jaded, I know you are no longer town but oddly enough you seem to be the most townie out of everyone. So which direction do you think would be best for us? The Inda one I am not sure about. I really think it has to be between Glot and Gabbo.

I say Gabbo.

[BHK1978]

I say Gabbo.

I was thinking the same.

Vote: Gabbo

[SmartBomb]

I say G-Man.

















Vote: Gabbo.

We may return to Glot later.

That said, if Glot has to lie, why can he roleclaim?

[Jaded]

That said, if Glot has to lie, why can he roleclaim?

It's not necessarily a true roleclaim, but if he does have to lie, then you can't use that as a reason to lynch him... of course, if he DOESN'T have to lie and is scum/SK screwing with us... my head hurts!

Yeah, I can get behind Gabbo, I think.

Change vote: Gabbo

[SmartBomb]

So that's not his roleclaim?

/clears up now

[Jaded]

It's not necessarily a true roleclaim, but if he does have to lie, then you can't use that as a reason to lynch him... of course, if he DOESN'T have to lie and is scum/SK screwing with us... my head hurts!

Yeah, I can get behind Gabbo, I think.

Change vote: Gabbo

Hang on, not sure I CAN. Just remembered SO seemed fairly sure Gabbo wasn't the SK - and I'm starting to think it's the SK we need to deal with first.

SK is either Smartbomb, Max or Glotnot according to my votes...

Change vote: No vote

[Jaded]

SK is either Smartbomb, Max or Glotnot according to my notes...


Oops, typo.

[Jaded]

Considering the amount of stick I've been getting from certain posters recently, yes I think it is fitting.

This suggests miller to me.

Max Peck was also claiming miller.

Max... do you have any abilities? We're close enough to end game for me to be thinking it may be worth you outing yourself...

[Glotnot]

Okay, pretty much everything you've said has got me confused as hell.

That said, looking at the above...

Wha?!

...The plot of this game, the magic movie ticket who can put you into movies, is the plotline of a movie called Last Action Hero.

Steve Smith is a generic name. As far as I can tell, he isn't based on any character. However, he's a movie fan, and the one holding the magic movie ticket that allows him to go into movies.

That's the plot line of Last Action Hero. That's the movie Jack Slater is from.

Attempting to fake claim Jack Slater would basically have been suicide.

[Gabbo]

SuperOwens is dead, he was Hit-Girl, Good Aligned Young Super Hero

Attempt to frame me? You're a phase too late and it's been established I don't have a kill. Lol.

Well to point out the obvious, it looks like the Vampires are still around.

I am now wondering if cheese-wire guy could be Gabbo and not Glot.

I don't have a kill, Owens told everyone this.

To be honest I'm getting annoyed by how vague the write-ups are in relation to recruits. Cults are hard enough without zero information from the write-up.

It means there's at least two vampires now.

Are you sure?

Second bit is me targetting Paws, and finding Paws already dead.

Third bit is our assasin killing SO.

First bit must be Paws' death surely?


Why would a scream lead to someone being hung. I figured it was a 'my sister is dead I can't go on' role mechanic. Why did you choose Paws?

When in doubt Meta-Game. The following is me Meta-Gaming, if you do not want to read this please advert your eyes....


Inadvertant who has not posted for days on end is still active. He was on here last night. Now granted this does not mean anything but I am just putting it out there as food for thought.

Interesting. Anti would be proud.


18. Gabbo: Pretty much for the same reasons as Glot. He has not stuck his neck out for the town and he is a player who if town is very capeable of leading the town. The fact that he has been very vague throughout the game leads me to believe he very well might not be town. Could be SK.

I have stuck my neck out. I was against Astil D1. I basically started the Rev lynch with OLF, I was the one that said Rev was cult, OLF thought SK. I also banged on about C-bot for days and no-one cared. I have 1hour a day of internet access just because I can't push lynches through doesn't mean I don't offer anything.

Last night I said Kenwynne and Glot are the two scum killers. We're getting very close to seeing I was right about those.

Just trust me, I know it's hard but I can win this game.

I'm telling you guys, BHK is definitely scum.


Half tempted to trust you... I see him being cult, definiately.


Jaded, I know you are no longer town but oddly enough you seem to be the most townie out of everyone. So which direction do you think would be best for us? The Inda one I am not sure about. I really think it has to be between Glot and Gabbo.

For the reason that I've shown is incorrect? You're playing so scummy.

I say Gabbo.

You say that because I'm the only one here that thinks you're scum.

vote: jman2k3.

He's cult, if he isn't I'll do a fullclaim immediately. We need the cult sorted out before it's too late and I'll bet everything one of them is Jman.

I was thinking the same.

Vote: Gabbo

Incriminating yourself further.

Hang on, not sure I CAN. Just remembered SO seemed fairly sure Gabbo wasn't the SK - and I'm starting to think it's the SK we need to deal with first.

SK is either Smartbomb, Max or Glotnot according to my votes...

Change vote: No vote

Logic prevails.


BHK and Jman are probably the last scum. Kenwynne is probably a killer.

Not sure where I stand on Glot and Inadvertant. Uncertain.

I'm happy lynching Jman, BHK or Kenwynne, although Jaded has roleblocked Kenwynne for tomorrow, so he's probably fallen down the list of priorities.


Everyone pick one, Jman or BHK. Don't let them and their cult ways sway you, honestly I'll be so annoyed if they trick the town into lynching one of our own today. It's annoyed me that C-bot was so smug upon death, it's like he knew they had more numbers than the town thought. Don't let them continue to read the thread and laugh at us. THEY HAVE TO GO. I know Glot wants BHK gone, I'm not fussed either way. They both bleed the same blood.

[Jaded]

How do cult win conditions normally work? Can they win with scum, or not, or is it mods discretion? Trying to work out how bad a state we're in here...

[Gabbo]

They tend to have to win alone. Why recruit if you can win with other scum? The whole point of a cult is getting people who think the same as you.

In a manner of speaking.


I'm just thinking we basically have an idea of the killers and they can't change, but if we let the cult run free it's getting impossible to sort out who the new members are.

[Max Peck]

This suggests miller to me.

Max Peck was also claiming miller.

Max... do you have any abilities? We're close enough to end game for me to be thinking it may be worth you outing yourself...

I am a miller, hell I could be the only miller for all I know....

I have 0 abilities, and I made a full role claim earlier, but for brevity I will do so again

Dr Richard Kimble, Good Aligned Man On The Run
(The Fugitive)

[Gabbo]

Peck, Jman or BHK?

[Max Peck]

I wonder why everyone is so quiet. Even Max Peck seems to have disappeared...


Max Peck works nights in the real world, so thats where I went....:D

[Kobe1724]

I still feel like there is something wrong with Max Peck, but right now we need to lynch glot. I have no reason not to trust Gabbo right now.

So my vote stays where it is.

As for Paws... she lied about her role. I picked up on it. Turned out she was town. My thoughts - She should never have lied.

Rgardless, here we are.

So let's win the game. :cool:

[Kobe1724]

No time to respond in detail atm (work), but I will talk to you guys later. :)

[Paws7297]

I still feel like there is something wrong with Max Peck, but right now we need to lynch glot. I have no reason not to trust Gabbo right now.

So my vote stays where it is.

As for Paws... she lied about her role. I picked up on it. Turned out she was town. My thoughts - She should never have lied.

Rgardless, here we are.

So let's win the game. :cool:

:rolleyes:

[Jaded]

As for Paws... she lied about her role. I picked up on it. Turned out she was town. My thoughts - She should never have lied.


She basically gave us the EXACT mechanic, under pressure from you, but changed her character name because her and C-bot didn't want to make themselves targets for Jason if he was in the game.

Your supposedly amazing scum-hunting powers have pretty much given them a hit list, in order, and allowed them to wipe out the beloved princess AND the lovers, getting them three kills when they'd have probably only had one if you hadn't put your foot in it.

You're hardly in the best position to play townie leader.

[Gabbo]

Jaded, what are your thoughts on cults vs killers today. You know my thoughts on the matter.

[Jaded]

Jaded, what are your thoughts on cults vs killers today. You know my thoughts on the matter.

To be honest I'm happy to do whatever, as long as we can hit SOMETHING. I agree with you that cults are probably higher priority, but finding a cult guy seems to be something of a stab in the dark, whereas we've at least narrowed the SK down to 1 out of 3 or 4...

But hey, if we can hit a cult guy with any degree of certainty, I'm all for it.

[Gabbo]

Well Kenwynne is a good shout for killer and is roleblocked tonight. So the odds of finding the other killer are about the same as finding 2 (or 3) cult.

BHK or Jman for me today, then roleblock the other and lynch Ken tomorrow.

[Kobe1724]

She basically gave us the EXACT mechanic, under pressure from you, but changed her character name because her and C-bot didn't want to make themselves targets for Jason if he was in the game.

Your supposedly amazing scum-hunting powers have pretty much given them a hit list, in order, and allowed them to wipe out the beloved princess AND the lovers, getting them three kills when they'd have probably only had one if you hadn't put your foot in it.

You're hardly in the best position to play townie leader.

You have an indy win condition and the scum are at this point the favorites. We should hardly be listening to you either.

[BHK1978]

Well Kenwynne is a good shout for killer and is roleblocked tonight. So the odds of finding the other killer are about the same as finding 2 (or 3) cult.

BHK or Jman for me today, then roleblock the other and lynch Ken tomorrow.

I swear you are the Candyman. You don't post at all until your name is brought up and then bam you fire off like six or seven posts in a row.

Look I have played in games where you were town and you played much better than this. I think you are Scum trying to divert attention from yourself. Could I be wrong? Of course I mean I was wrong with Superownes, Jaded, and iMac. But I just have a feeling that you are Scum.

As far as Jman being a member of the Cult that would not shock me one bit. Like I said he would be a logical person to bring into the cult.

In regards to Ken is it possible for him to be the Scum Hitman and not have to be active? Like I said he has not been on in a while, so if there are two members of the Scum left, could the Scum still send in his kill?

[Kobe1724]

She basically gave us the EXACT mechanic, under pressure from you, but changed her character name because her and C-bot didn't want to make themselves targets for Jason if he was in the game.

Your supposedly amazing scum-hunting powers have pretty much given them a hit list, in order, and allowed them to wipe out the beloved princess AND the lovers, getting them three kills when they'd have probably only had one if you hadn't put your foot in it.

You're hardly in the best position to play townie leader.


Additionally, according to you RA claimed princess way back on day 3 or so. And Paws needed to claim to confirm herself as town. That the scum waited until they did to kill one of them is coincidence, and a good one at that since C-Bot was a vampire. :cool:

I deal in facts. The more of them I have, the more informed my decisions are.

[Kobe1724]

I swear you are the Candyman. You don't post at all until your name is brought up and then bam you fire off like six or seven posts in a row.

Look I have played in games where you were town and you played much better than this. I think you are Scum trying to divert attention from yourself. Could I be wrong? Of course I mean I was wrong with Superownes, Jaded, and iMac. But I just have a feeling that you are Scum.

As far as Jman being a member of the Cult that would not shock me one bit. Like I said he would be a logical person to bring into the cult.

In regards to Ken is it possible for him to be the Scum Hitman and not have to be active? Like I said he has not been on in a while, so if there are two members of the Scum left, could the Scum still send in his kill?


BHK, don't you think we need to lynch glot? :)

[BHK1978]

BHK, don't you think we need to lynch glot? :)

I think Glot is something (Sk probably) but I am not sure. I would be more than willing to say Gabbo is Scum. However, if general concesus is Glot, I would be fine seeing him hang.

[Kobe1724]

Likely scumJman
Glotnot
BHK

Likely Town:Gabbo
Inadvertent
Me

Ambivalent:Ken
SmartBomb
Jaded
Max Peck (Ugh...)
imac

[Kobe1724]

I commented on his inconsistences with the role materials and the "bald" assassin. He said:

That would be a very good point.

Unfortunately your line of thinking is leaving out one detail.

Detail is "which character was I describing".

I'm going to bed as well, actually.

^^ Are we really letting this slide?

There is no other character in the game remotely like the one glot is describing.

[Kobe1724]

Logically, as soon as we clear someone, the cult will simply recruit them...

There has to be a better way.

Ugh...

[BHK1978]

I think Glot is something (Sk probably) but I am not sure. I would be more than willing to say Gabbo is Scum. However, if general consensus is Glot, I would be fine seeing him hang.

Sorry about that I did not spell consensus right.:o

[Gabbo]

BHK, I admit I've been hazy but its because I get an hour online and have no notes.

As for bursts of posts I explained 856 times, I come online for an hour a day at my library. Anything else is done off a slow connection on the small screen of my mobile.

Anyway, I'd probably lynch Glot, but do think the cult should be our priority. A dead townie is better than a recruited townie, instead of just losing a number the also gain one. It's a double whammy.

Kobe, trust me - the cult has to go first.

[BHK1978]

Likely scumJman
Glotnot
BHK

Likely Town:Gabbo
Inadvertent
Me

Ambivalent:Ken
SmartBomb
Jaded
Max Peck (Ugh...)
imac

What makes Inadvertent likely town? He has not posted in the game thread for like a week and he has been active on this thread. If anything I would say that is about as Scummy as you can get.

[BHK1978]

Can we have a vote count please? Thank you in advance.

[Undertaker666]

Vote count:

BHK1978: 1 (Glotnot)
Inadvertant: 1 (Jman2k3)
Glotnot: 2 (Kobe1724, Max Peck)
Gabbo: 2 (BHK1978, SmartBomb)
Jman2k3: 1 (Gabbo)

It is now Day 9. With 11 players remaining, it takes 6 votes to lynch. You have until Wednesday 11th August 8:00pm BST (Wednesday 11th August 3:00pm EST to reach a majority. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Jman2k3]

Change vote: Gabbo

After Gabbo is lynched, you have Ken and Inad as your two final scum.

[Jman2k3]

What makes Inadvertent likely town? He has not posted in the game thread for like a week and he has been active on this thread. If anything I would say that is about as Scummy as you can get.

Exactly, and I'm thinking maybe Kobe might have been recruited.

[Jaded]

BHK or Jman for me today, then roleblock the other and lynch Ken tomorrow.

The problem is, now you've said that I'm not sure I CAN roleblock either of them. If people make suggestions, it becomes random - I'm hoping that only applies if I go for one of the two you've mentioned, but if people can AVOID suggesting anyone else just so that I can keep my options open.

I think I trust Jman and BHK as much as anyone here...

Change vote: Gabbo

[Gabbo]

So Jaded has decided if the town arent going to lynch killers to protect his own back then he's voting with the cult.

Theres a Corleone killer and a SK. Its established I'm not a killer so what am I, cult? Except I painted Rev as cult to lynch him and nagged about cbot.

Town, dont vote with the cult. We have to stick together, no splitting the vote. Kobe, imac?

Change vote: bhk1978

If I'm lynched the cult will win this game.

[Jaded]

Theres a Corleone killer and a SK. Its established I'm not a killer so what am I, cult? Except I painted Rev as cult to lynch him and nagged about cbot.



That shows you WEREN'T cult. It doesn't show that you're not now.

[Kobe1724]

So Jaded has decided if the town arent going to lynch killers to protect his own back then he's voting with the cult.

Theres a Corleone killer and a SK. Its established I'm not a killer so what am I, cult? Except I painted Rev as cult to lynch him and nagged about cbot.

Town, dont vote with the cult. We have to stick together, no splitting the vote. Kobe, imac?

Change vote: bhk1978

If I'm lynched the cult will win this game.

If you're town you need to get behind a vote of glot, because I'm not moving.

Momentum is your only shot, so trust me and if you're town I'll get you through. :cool:

[Kobe1724]

Exactly, and I'm thinking maybe Kobe might have been recruited.

Everyone, please see my list.

[Kobe1724]

What makes Inadvertent likely town? He has not posted in the game thread for like a week and he has been active on this thread. If anything I would say that is about as Scummy as you can get.

He could be cult, but I believe his claim.

As for winning, I think to do so we need to go after those that we know are scum. No mis-lynches. There isn't enough evidence on Gabbo, so I'm waiting on a lynch of him for now.

Also, did Max Peck claim before or after BHK died?

[Kobe1724]

He could be cult, but I believe his claim.

As for winning, I think to do so we need to go after those that we know are scum. No mis-lynches. There isn't enough evidence on Gabbo, so I'm waiting on a lynch of him for now.

Also, did Max Peck claim before or after BHK died?

I mean Destiny, sorry.

[Jman2k3]

Everyone, please see my list.

The same lists you have been wrong on mulitple accounts? The ones were you've said I'm scum, you said Paws was scum, C-Bot was 100% town. I think not.

Gabbo is scum, Inadvert as BHK has said hasn't posted but has been active in the thread that means he is probably the sk, and ken is scum, and I'm beginning to think you may be a new recruit to the vamps.

[Kobe1724]

The same lists you have been wrong on mulitple accounts? The ones were you've said I'm scum, you said Paws was scum, C-Bot was 100% town. I think not.

Gabbo is scum, Inadvert as BHK has said hasn't posted but has been active in the thread that means he is probably the sk, and ken is scum, and I'm beginning to think you may be a new recruit to the vamps.

1. C-Bot was town at the time I placed him on the list.

2. Paws gave me very good reasons to be suspicious of her. You and others were just too busy looking in other directions to pressure her and others to give out more information, which is why we're in the situation we're in now.

3. You are likely scum,

[Kobe1724]

The same lists you have been wrong on mulitple accounts? The ones were you've said I'm scum, you said Paws was scum, C-Bot was 100% town. I think not.

Gabbo is scum, Inadvert as BHK has said hasn't posted but has been active in the thread that means he is probably the sk, and ken is scum, and I'm beginning to think you may be a new recruit to the vamps.

I won't comment further on the other posters you've mentioned. I've already shared my thoughts.

As for the vamps... they would never recruit me. They would have no idea how I would react, and right now their certainty in the towns collective stupidity is the best chance they have at victory.

Lynch glot or don't, but unless you present a compelling case for lynch Gabbo I'm not moving my vote.

So do it yourself, if you want to.

[Kobe1724]

It's ironic...early in the game when information would have helped us isolate who scum and town were no one wanted to give it. You all wanted to depend on night results.

Now we are at a point where we could use information, but none of it is trustworthy anymore. So we're rashly pointing fingers and existing in a speculation zone.

You focus on the fact that I was wrong about Paws and RA. Well I was right about Astil, hellshock, MNN and now it looks like probably BHK.

But none of that matters. What matters is that last night I tried being a voice of diplomacy and reason and no one wanted to listen. I tried in fact to be these things throughout the whole game - going along with lynches and backing off of pressure and hunches because it's what the town thought was best.

And now we have two killers on the loose and a cult that's still growing with only 11 players remaining. Every power role is dead and our protector is dead.

The town has been playing the wrong way this whole game (I include myself in that number), and now it's time to play the right way.

We need to lynch glot, followed by either BHK or you, Jman.

That's all I have to say.

[Jman2k3]

1. C-Bot was town at the time I placed him on the list.

2. Paws gave me very good reasons to be suspicious of her. You and others were just too busy looking in other directions to pressure her and others to give out more information, which is why we're in the situation we're in now.

3. You are likely scum,

How is the busdriver scum?

[Kobe1724]

1. No more hiding information. Everyone that hasn't needs to full claim. Everything on the table. Our tendency as a town to let players skate on half truths and scarce information has allowed the cult to recruit those players right under or noses.

2. Everyone that has an ability and can use it needs to use it tonight, and they need to say what they are going to do before hand. That way we can vet who is telling the truth. For those without abilities, use them tomorrow.

At this point, only Max Peck claims to not have an active night ability, so we should be able to test everyone's ability over the next two phases. Killing glot tonight buys us some time where we at least draw even with the scum this phase.

Once everyone has used their ability and we can verify that it did what they said it was then we should question one another to verify the veracity of that information. One person at a time, full interrogation.

[Jman2k3]

It's ironic...early in the game when information would have helped us isolate who scum and town were no one wanted to give it. You all wanted to depend on night results.

Now we are at a point where we could use information, but none of it is trustworthy anymore. So we're rashly pointing fingers and existing in a speculation zone.

You focus on the fact that I was wrong about Paws and RA. Well I was right about Astil, hellshock, MNN and now it looks like probably BHK.

But none of that matters. What matters is that last night I tried being a voice of diplomacy and reason and no one wanted to listen. I tried in fact to be these things throughout the whole game - going along with lynches and backing off of pressure and hunches because it's what the town thought was best.

And now we have two killers on the loose and a cult that's still growing with only 11 players remaining. Every power role is dead and our protector is dead.

The town has been playing the wrong way this whole game (I include myself in that number), and now it's time to play the right way.

We need to lynch glot, followed by either BHK or you, Jman.

That's all I have to say.

Not ever power role is dead. Also MNN was 50/50 when he claimed role cop but was found out after the whole bus drive situation with Destiny and him claiming I switched C-Bot on a night I didn't touch him so you can thank me for that.

[Jman2k3]

Lynching Gabbo probably takes out the Sk or Cult leader.

[Kobe1724]

How is the busdriver scum?

You could easily be cult, although you may (still?) be town. That said, your opposition to lynching an obvious serial killer or cult member in glot in favor of lynching a guy (in Gabbo) who is as likely to be scum as anyone else in the game right now makes me thing that you're scum. Again, just a hunch right now. We'll see.

But glot and BHK need to hang. I'm still open on you, Smart Bomb and Max for now.

Again, to anyone that knows did Max Peck claim miller before or after Destiny's death?

Thanks. ^_^

[Kobe1724]

Not ever power role is dead. Also MNN was 50/50 when he claimed role cop but was found out after the whole bus drive situation with Destiny and him claiming I switched C-Bot on a night I didn't touch him so you can thank me for that.

Again (and you can check this) I was pointing out MNN was scum back when everyone was claiming him obvious town and berating me for even implying he might be scum. Good job on catching him, but my point is that if we would have just applied more pressure on people to make strong claims earlier in the game then we would have caught him much sooner. We'd have nipped the cult in the bud much sooner.

The whole reason that we're in this situation right now is because people have been allowed to post one sentence hints about their character and then skate for phases at a time. Everyone in a game needs to be held accountable and vetted, and allowing someone to simply say "It's too dangerous" to tell what they are and what they can do allows groups like this cult to poison the town while we wait on night results.

This is doubly flawed because people don't even want to talk at night, so we waste another half of the game.

I'm not going to speculate on what should be done in other games, but if we don't stop.the.bleeding.now. we are going to lose this game.

Glot's claim is shaky. Gabbo is shaky as well, but less so. If you want to pressure him then I say let's do it. I think he needs to give us every result and everything he's done the whole game, and I think he needs to do it now. We need to go over these things today, and during the night phase as well if we have too...

But if we're wrong about him, we can't afford a mis-lynch.

So let's get rid of glot.

[Kobe1724]

1st paragraph should have *as well* written at the end.

[Kobe1724]

On that note, BHK definitely needs to hang tomorrow unless Gabbo comes up obvious scum tonight.