The Official Movieland Massacre Game Thread

[The Two]

Getting caught up I was afraid we were going to lynch Bak42 before he had a chance to respond the way the votes were piling on.

The thing is I can't imagine that Sweeney Tood would talk that way. I see this hairdresser as more of a Charles Nelson Riley type of person if you understand what I am saying.
I get you, you think he's... uh... he's got sugar in his socks. I know what you're saying? He's... uh... been to Arkansas. He's a friend of Wayne Sleep. Bit of a velvet turtle... etc. :D

would someone mind telling me the use of a miller? seems...pointless, to me.
Lynchbait. It's a way to give the town a weakness. You don't want to make the town too powerful so you give them some weak links. Millers are as good a way as any to do that.

Above everything else, the earliness of the replacement stands out for me right now.
Yeah, that does ring bells. Could either be scum, or a town power role. I know in Medical Mafia I replaced the FI quite quickly. Not on Day 1, but I didn't want to leave the town without it for long when SeanMcFly went AWOL.

I think there's still more than enough votes on Bak at the moment to pressure, while keeping us out of shenanigan range, so I'll hold my vote for now.

[The Two]

Forgot to say: Drillbit Taylor? Is that the awful thing with... I think it was Susan Sarandon, Billy Bob Thornton and somebody like Ashton Kutcher. His mum marries the dickhead P.E. teacher or something like that? Or am I getting confused?

[Comradebot]

Forgot to say: Drillbit Taylor? Is that the awful thing with... I think it was Susan Sarandon, Billy Bob Thornton and somebody like Ashton Kutcher. His mum marries the dickhead P.E. teacher or something like that? Or am I getting confused?

I can't count how many times you were wrong.

[The Two]

I can't count how many times you were wrong.
Okay, yes, quick trip to IMDb tells me I was talking about Mr Wood****. Was almost spot on in my description of that film though.

[The Two]

Okay, yes, quick trip to IMDb tells me I was talking about Mr Woodc0ck. Was almost spot on in my description of that film though.
Stupid indescriminate censorship. I'm moving to S****horpe. :p

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 7 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Destiny]

Personally, my vote's staying exactly where it is until it can be proven that Olivier Le Fou is paranoid.

[Inadvertant]

Hey, quick heads up; a tornado ripped through my hometown, which happens to be the same town Astil is from/lives in, hit Plainville, Bristol, Hartford and I think Bridgeport in Connecticut. He may not respond due to internet being down/power outage so let's not take his silence as guilt on anything.


Also, thanks for the Miller explanations everyone ^.^

I'm going to withhold voting for now until I finish my field day in my barracks room here, and give things some thought/contemplation. Will be back in around an hour or so.

[The Shape]

Glad we haven't rushed into this, but I still feel bak is the way to go here. Agree that we need to clarify the investigator now, as if there is something up I'd say it'll be at his end. But above that, the replacement stuff really makes me feel like bak is a big role, and that's bad if OLF is right. Worth going on especially given what we have on him.

Oh and Glot, :cool:

[Antithesis]

Well if we are gonna take our time lynching bak (because well, unless someone can somehow show a link to him in a write up, its the only move that makes sense atm) I'd like to return to Smartbomb and the Nexus deal.

If I didn't hint at being a Nexus, which I didn't, I would like to ask Smartbomb where the accusation comes from?

Specifically, if it was something you misread, then quote it for me. If it was something to do with a night action, explain to me how you, being a nexus, would arrive at me fake claiming it?

In other words, it being completely out of the blue, I am wondering if someone gave you some bad info... privately.

[Antithesis]

Bracing himself he kicked the door open and charged in. 'Damn, no-one home'. He began a search of the room looking for clues until he came across something interesting. 'Gotcha'.


OLF could this be you?

[Midnightnick]

A power townie role can come up as a miller. Mostly is the case.

An example from way way back: Real Wrestling mafia I was part of the FBI: A mason group of 3 watchers.....but on investigation we came up as scum.

Win condition: same as town.

There you go for your miller thing.

I can vouch for that too, at EWB in their WCW Mafia game, the Four Horsemen (who at the time were face, and I was in that group) had the same win conditions as town, but we turned up scum when checked out because come on. Investigation.

Well if we are gonna take our time lynching bak (because well, unless someone can somehow show a link to him in a write up, its the only move that makes sense atm) I'd like to return to Smartbomb and the Nexus deal.

If I didn't hint at being a Nexus, which I didn't, I would like to ask Smartbomb where the accusation comes from?

Specifically, if it was something you misread, then quote it for me. If it was something to do with a night action, explain to me how you, being a nexus, would arrive at me fake claiming it?

In other words, it being completely out of the blue, I am wondering if someone gave you some bad info... privately.

Maybe he's a scum role cop and saw your description and turned it into him wanting to lynch you by saying he was a nexus?

Of course, that's far fetched but I've seen that gambit pulled before.

Coincidentally, in said WCW Mafia game.

[Antithesis]

I can vouch for that too, at EWB in their WCW Mafia game, the Four Horsemen (who at the time were face, and I was in that group) had the same win conditions as town, but we turned up scum when checked out because come on. Investigation.



Maybe he's a scum role cop and saw your description and turned it into him wanting to lynch you by saying he was a nexus?

Of course, that's far fetched but I've seen that gambit pulled before.

Coincidentally, in said WCW Mafia game.

Well I don't go out at night... neither would a nexus. But my character is like one of the last people someone would want to force to claim. I mean, he's probably known by the vast majority of people here and is obviously a good guy. If a scum group with a role cop wanted to start something, they'd pick someone else (assuming said role cop got character info as well).

[Imarevenant]

Well toronto's wifi situation is almost as bad as boston's, 6 bucks to use a computer...BAH, at least there is free wifi in the lobby if not my room though.

Caught up on day 2, Bak seems the logical choice where we'll get the most answers from a lynch. Other than that I'm not sure where to point my golden finger of suspicion. Be back tonight at some point, tired of sitting in the lobby.

[Destiny]

Sorry to hear about the Internet situation Imarevenant. I was away last Summer and also had to pay to use the Internet.

[Midnightnick]

Well I don't go out at night... neither would a nexus. But my character is like one of the last people someone would want to force to claim. I mean, he's probably known by the vast majority of people here and is obviously a good guy. If a scum group with a role cop wanted to start something, they'd pick someone else (assuming said role cop got character info as well).

For what it's worth, I don't understand a single thing Smartbomb said outside of you saying you apparently are a nexus and you aren't one. I was just throwing out scenarios.

[Destiny]

I mentioned directly after SmartBomb's original post that I had little idea wht he meant.

[Midnightnick]

I mentioned directly after SmartBomb's original post that I had little idea wht he meant.

I don't think anyone does Destiny.

[Paws7297]

I don't think anyone does Destiny.

/Shakes head

I sure don't.

[Astil]

Only post for tonight. Some crazy **** going on in my home, after the game I'll elaborate, but I don't want it to effect the game.

I targeted ____, and now know he is Mr. Smith. He was not in his room, so I will meet up with him tomorrow night and attempt to take down Hertz with him.

Change Vote: Bak42

The thing about Drillbit Taylor is ... he's a pushover. He can't fight. That's the point of the 'comedy'. Look at this idiot try to teach these nerds how to fight when he can't.

So when you say "I'm who you want to keep alive as a outted investigator". That leads me to think you are claiming protector. Which does not match Drillbit.

[moon_lit_tears]

Only post for tonight. Some crazy **** going on in my home, after the game I'll elaborate, but I don't want it to effect the game.

I targeted ____, and now know he is Mr. Smith. He was not in his room, so I will meet up with him tomorrow night and attempt to take down Hertz with him.

Change Vote: Bak42

The thing about Drillbit Taylor is ... he's a pushover. He can't fight. That's the point of the 'comedy'. Look at this idiot try to teach these nerds how to fight when he can't.

So when you say "I'm who you want to keep alive as a outted investigator". That leads me to think you are claiming protector. Which does not match Drillbit.

Is it possible as a bodyguard he also roleblocks?

[Paws7297]

Only post for tonight. Some crazy **** going on in my home, after the game I'll elaborate, but I don't want it to effect the game.

I targeted ____, and now know he is Mr. Smith. He was not in his room, so I will meet up with him tomorrow night and attempt to take down Hertz with him.

Change Vote: Bak42

The thing about Drillbit Taylor is ... he's a pushover. He can't fight. That's the point of the 'comedy'. Look at this idiot try to teach these nerds how to fight when he can't.

So when you say "I'm who you want to keep alive as a outted investigator". That leads me to think you are claiming protector. Which does not match Drillbit.

/nod

[Astil]

Is it possible as a bodyguard he also roleblocks?

That'd be more powerful, not less.

I did see the movie, and no. Not in my opinion.

[moon_lit_tears]

That'd be more powerful, not less.

I did see the movie, and no. Not in my opinion.


Interesting.

Very interesting....

I was blocked last night.

If he is a protector he failed, or he is lying now that I think about it.

I need to think about this for a little bit, because it could be my target is the reason.

[Astil]

I have to go. I have to pack. I'm being evicted. :mad::(:mad:

[moon_lit_tears]

I have to go. I have to pack. I'm being evicted. :mad::(:mad:

Are you serious? What happened. :(

[Paws7297]

I have to go. I have to pack. I'm being evicted. :mad::(:mad:

:( What???? Why???? :(

[Astil]

Only post for tonight. Some crazy **** going on in my home, after the game I'll elaborate, but I don't want it to effect the game.


Please.

[Destiny]

I'm also terribly sorry to her that you're being evicted Astil, especially considering you had your firt day at work today.

[Astil]

I'm also terribly sorry to her that you're being evicted Astil, especially considering you had your firt day at work today.

Yeah, my mom has a sick sense of irony.

[hellshock70]

that's some serious stuff........... :(

go take care of business........;)

[Astil]

Leaving now.

[Paws7297]

Leaving now.

Bye...... Good Luck :)

[moon_lit_tears]

Yeah, my mom has a sick sense of irony.

Hope things work out for the best for you. :(

[Destiny]

Interesting.

Very interesting....

I was blocked last night.

If he is a protector he failed, or he is lying now that I think about it.

I need to think about this for a little bit, because it could be my target is the reason.

I believe that bak42 was claiming to be a protector, and the majority of protectors will not protect against roleblocks.

[moon_lit_tears]

I believe that bak42 was claiming to be a protector, and the majority of protectors will not protect against roleblocks.


Ah! My head is not on right now. Someone disconnected the power to my brain. I need a moment to think.

So either i was roleblocked, or......I don't know what then.

[Antithesis]

Ah! My head is not on right now. Someone disconnected the power to my brain. I need a moment to think.

So either i was roleblocked, or......I don't know what then.

or Bak roleblocked you and is trying to claim protector...

occam's razor

[moon_lit_tears]

or Bak roleblocked you and is trying to claim protector...

occam's razor

Possible..

[Glotnot]

Hi! My name is.. (what?) My name is.. (who?)
My name is.. {scratches}...

Slim Shady

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You kill my father. Prepare to die."

[Glotnot]

I targeted ____, and now know he is Mr. Smith. He was not in his room, so I will meet up with him tomorrow night and attempt to take down Hertz with him.


I wasn't in my room?

Pardon?

The person you targeted was Mr. Smith, and the person you targeted wasn't in his room.

But only one of these things describes me.

[Glotnot]

I know you aren't going to respond, but if we can continue this conversation at a later date....

I'm really sorry about the eviction man. :(

[Antithesis]

Possible..

Can you reveal who you tried to target... without saying what you intended.

You've already admitted that you can go out at night, so I don't see this as being too much info.

Also, you said your character was female, could it be you met the hairdresser?

[Tha Black Phenom]

Is it possible as a bodyguard he also roleblocks?

/shakes head

Not remotely to do with that character.

[moon_lit_tears]

Can you reveal who you tried to target... without saying what you intended.

You've already admitted that you can go out at night, so I don't see this as being too much info.

Also, you said your character was female, could it be you met the hairdresser?

As it should be quite obvious by my question towards him earlier. I targeted Gabbo.

[Antithesis]

As it should be quite obvious by my question towards him earlier. I targeted Gabbo.

"quite obvious" what, do you think I take notes or something? Pfft. :D

[Destiny]

I am aware, through reading conversations in the thread yesterday, that moon_lit_tears and Gabbo were having some problems.

[Antithesis]

I am aware, through reading conversations in the thread yesterday, that moon_lit_tears and Gabbo were having some problems.

Wonder.. could they have targetted each other?

[Zeel1]

It's a role where, if targetted, it'll cause the person targetting you to instead target a different, randomly selected, player.

Wallbanger was one in Springfield, if memory serves correct. And was briefly dead until the mod remembered he shouldn't be able to be night killed.

I had that in Zim, except it didn't redirect, they just failed.

And Glot decided not to explain that to me until after I claimed to redirect, leading people to think I was changing my story. I swear if I had gotten lynched because of that, he'd be on my hitlist for forever. :p

Eh, if he has some form of protection he should get that out there along with claiming an investigator.

... um no, no he probably shouldn't.

I see Destiny beat me to the punch :P

Jesus Christ, I can't imagine your embarrassment... :p

Minimal push!? What the hell game were you reading? I was 5 votes away from a lynch, that's a pretty strong push in my (admittedly biased) opinion.

True enough.

The votes really did fly on, didn't they? I took a nap before OLF came on, and after I woke up, there were over ten votes. Gotta think there were atleast a few scum doing that...

would someone mind telling me the use of a miller? seems...pointless, to me.

The point is to add to the challenge for the town. He's a regular townie, that turns up scum, and often gets mislynched if he claims it only after being investigated.

Interesting.

Very interesting....

I was blocked last night.

If he is a protector he failed, or he is lying now that I think about it.

I need to think about this for a little bit, because it could be my target is the reason.

You might not should have said that, dear. If he claimed Jailer, you could've backed that up a little by saying you were blocked, but now it wouldn't mean as much...

Still <3 you, though. :D

I wasn't in my room?

Pardon?

The person you targeted was Mr. Smith, and the person you targeted wasn't in his room.

But only one of these things describes me.

Did you not go out last night?

[moon_lit_tears]

"quite obvious" what, do you think I take notes or something? Pfft. :D

Yes you do. :D

I had that in Zim, except it didn't redirect, they just failed.

And Glot decided not to explain that to me until after I claimed to redirect, leading people to think I was changing my story. I swear if I had gotten lynched because of that, he'd be on my hitlist for forever. :p



... um no, no he probably shouldn't.



Jesus Christ, I can't imagine your embarrassment... :p



True enough.

The votes really did fly on, didn't they? I took a nap before OLF came on, and after I woke up, there were over ten votes. Gotta think there were atleast a few scum doing that...



The point is to add to the challenge for the town. He's a regular townie, that turns up scum, and often gets mislynched if he claims it only after being investigated.



You might not should have said that, dear. If he claimed Jailer, you could've backed that up a little by saying you were blocked, but now it wouldn't mean as much...

Still <3 you, though. :D



Did you not go out last night?

He had already claimed. :)

[Glotnot]

Nope. I chose to stay in last night.

[Zeel1]

He had already claimed. :)

Hasn't said any abilities.

Nope. I chose to stay in last night.

Hm, odd.

Maybe you not being in when he first meets you is just part of the mechanic... as an explanation for why you don't just go out and kill Huertz that night? So he stays at your place until you come back, then you go off hunting?

Just theorizing.

[moon_lit_tears]

If you are referring to Bak yes he did.

[Antithesis]

... um no, no he probably shouldn't.






Why shouldn't he? If he's an obvious target, but is protected, say it, let other protectors know they can defend other people.

Yes you do. :D




No. I never take notes. This fact pretty much explains virtually every facet of how I play. :p

[iMac]

Wow. Well that was certainly an interesting start to the day. I'm a little worried we now seem to be going off in many different directions, but I guess the more we learn now the less we need to learn later.

[Crychon]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 8 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Kobe1724]

Vote: bak42

Not lynching by day 2 makes for a dull game.

[Crychon]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 9 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[moon_lit_tears]

So why are the votes piling back on Bak? Is his claim of Bodyguard not believable?

[Astil]

Not gonna lie, I saw the message in my PM and just assumed that you going out was the reason I couldn't find you.

Blehk. I suck at this.

Maybe it was a game thing, like explaining why I didn't see you, go 'sup, let's kill some peeps' and we went off on our way.

My PM states, paraphrasing. You found Mr. Smith! You will be able to use him to help take down Karl Hertz tomorrow night.

Sorry about adding in assumptions. Rookie move.

[Antithesis]

So why are the votes piling back on Bak? Is his claim of Bodyguard not believable?

A claimed investigator says he isn't town aligned.

Bak says he is and that he targetted you last night.

You say you could not find your target, its possible you may have been roleblocked (I guess)

I don't really see why people seem so hesitant about it, tbh. Unless they somehow expect his claimed character to be in the game.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Vote: bak42

Not lynching by day 2 makes for a dull game.

We must've had a hell of a lot of dull games then.

I understand though, since like, I'm totally not against D1 lynches. But yeah. We have to assess our actions and intakes correctly.

Personally, I wouldn't be against lynching him, since there seems to be no out from either side, and we have to come down to a conclusion.

[Astil]

So why are the votes piling back on Bak? Is his claim of Bodyguard not believable?

Not as Drillbit.

Sorry, you have all the movies in the world to go off of. Anyone of the silly "protect this person" movies. Drillbit Taylor is a weak punk who can't fight and only "wins" at the end by severely injuring himself. He's no protector. Hider, yes. Survivor, maybe.

Or, not in the game.

[moon_lit_tears]

Ok, I guess I see the point. If he were a roleblocker and town why lie, or is it possible I was roleblocked as well or something happened to my target?

[Astil]

MLT, you aren't in the writeup?

[moon_lit_tears]

MLT, you aren't in the writeup?

I'm not sure.

[Comradebot]

Okay...

In the movie, if my memory serves correct, Drillbit Taylor is said to have taken an aptitude test... he scored low in basically everything except "protective instincts".

I'm sorry, but he makes PERFECT sense as a protector... even if a bit of a crappy one.

And we're not discussing anything, and folks just jump in going "well, we gotta lynch someone!" and throwing down votes. This is gonna end up being a mostly wasted phase if bak is town. I know people we say (in Don Knotts's voice) "But gee, C-Bot, now we know OLF gets wonky results!" I don't think it's worth a dead protector, but that's just me.

Whatever, gonna go book some APWF. Just hit Cult, brought in the great Crippler Ray Kingman... starting to shape up to be awesome.

[Antithesis]

Okay...

In the movie, if my memory serves correct, Drillbit Taylor is said to have taken an aptitude test... he scored low in basically everything except "protective instincts".

I'm sorry, but he makes PERFECT sense as a protector... even if a bit of a crappy one.

And we're not discussing anything, and folks just jump in going "well, we gotta lynch someone!" and throwing down votes. This is gonna end up being a mostly wasted phase if bak is town. I know people we say (in Don Knotts's voice) "But gee, C-Bot, now we know OLF gets wonky results!" I don't think it's worth a dead protector, but that's just me.

Whatever, gonna go book some APWF. Just hit Cult, brought in the great Crippler Ray Kingman... starting to shape up to be awesome.


You mention not discussing anything and then leave?

What is it you think we should be discussing?

I've asked the people supposedly linked last night if they see themselves in a write up, either they don't know or don't want to answer. I've read the Wiki entry on Drillbit, and the character seems so patently inept that maybe I could almost buy it as lynchbait.

There is one thing that could be discussed, that may possibly dissuade me.

Assume most folks would think Drillbit is an obscure character. Given OLF's hints, his character isn't obscure. I know mine isn't, at least to people here. Are there a bunch of oddball, barely known characters in this game? Would you consider yours to be obscure?


Hell, then again for all I know, maybe that is who the bad guys are... obscure characters from movie flops, jealous at the more popular characters and out for revenge.

Can anyone with more knowledge about this say I'm wrong?

[BHK1978]

Wow. Well that was certainly an interesting start to the day. I'm a little worried we now seem to be going off in many different directions, but I guess the more we learn now the less we need to learn later.

This is the most Destiny like quote of the game and it wasn't even said by Destiny!:D

I get you, you think he's... uh... he's got sugar in his socks. I know what you're saying? He's... uh... been to Arkansas. He's a friend of Wayne Sleep. Bit of a velvet turtle... etc. :D

Exactly that is why I think our hairdresser is a fan of Judy Garland. Therefore, I think it might be worth thinking about which movies have these types of hairdressers in them so maybe we might know what we are dealing with.

[Antithesis]

This is the most Destiny like quote of the game and it wasn't even said by Destiny!:D



Its so devoid of meaning it radiates scumminess imho.

[BHK1978]

You mention not discussing anything and then leave?

What is it you think we should be discussing?

I've asked the people supposedly linked last night if they see themselves in a write up, either they don't know or don't want to answer. I've read the Wiki entry on Drillbit, and the character seems so patently inept that maybe I could almost buy it as lynchbait.

There is one thing that could be discussed, that may possibly dissuade me.

Assume most folks would think Drillbit is an obscure character. Given OLF's hints, his character isn't obscure. I know mine isn't, at least to people here. Are there a bunch of oddball, barely known characters in this game? Would you consider yours to be obscure?


Hell, then again for all I know, maybe that is who the bad guys are... obscure characters from movie flops, jealous at the more popular characters and out for revenge.

Can anyone with more knowledge about this say I'm wrong?

I have no problem telling everyone about my character. Because nobody will figure out who this person is anyway. My character was from a blockbuster but would not be considered the star. Heck I would not even consider the character to be second banana in the movie either.

[Astil]

I have no problem telling everyone about my character. Because nobody will figure out who this person is anyway. My character was from a blockbuster but would not be considered the star. Heck I would not even consider the character to be second banana in the movie either.

MATT DAMON~!

Sorry, that's what that made me think of.

[Comradebot]

You mention not discussing anything and then leave?

What is it you think we should be discussing?

I've asked the people supposedly linked last night if they see themselves in a write up, either they don't know or don't want to answer. I've read the Wiki entry on Drillbit, and the character seems so patently inept that maybe I could almost buy it as lynchbait.

There is one thing that could be discussed, that may possibly dissuade me.

Assume most folks would think Drillbit is an obscure character. Given OLF's hints, his character isn't obscure. I know mine isn't, at least to people here. Are there a bunch of oddball, barely known characters in this game? Would you consider yours to be obscure?


Hell, then again for all I know, maybe that is who the bad guys are... obscure characters from movie flops, jealous at the more popular characters and out for revenge.

Can anyone with more knowledge about this say I'm wrong?

Hey, I have stuff to do in life... can't spend ALL day on mafia, hehe.

That said... yeah, I'd call my character rather obscure. Never even heard of them until this game, though I'm very aware of the film from which my character comes. Just not the person you'll think of first or probably even second from that movie.

No, pretty sure the "bad guys" are just straight up movie villian types.

And yes, there's no other hard evidence floating about... but people rely far, far too hard on that. Folks should follow their guts more, and that's the kind of discussion I'd like to see. Only lynching when someone has night results leads to scum victory pretty often.

[BHK1978]

If I got OLF's hint his character is pretty big. Then again at first I thought he was hinting at Harry Callahan and it is obvious that is not the case, so I could be wrong with who I think he is.

[BHK1978]

And yes, there's no other hard evidence floating about... but people rely far, far too hard on that. Folks should follow their guts more, and that's the kind of discussion I'd like to see. Only lynching when someone has night results leads to scum victory pretty often.

I try to do that and some of the time I am right but nobody listens (ie The Shape in DBZ and Prophet in Futurama). And it will always come around to the one question, "What evidence do you have?" and if you say going by your gut nobody will bother.

Heck my gut says that both SuperOwens and Jaded are Scum once again in this game. However, I have no proof one way or the other.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Its so devoid of meaning it radiates scumminess imho.

/nod

Also, have a funny feeling about Kobe?

[Comradebot]

/nod

Also, have a funny feeling about Kobe?

You know, you're NEVER this active as a townie. Ever. I've noticed since Gotham you're more than happy to stick to the shadows and only pop out when you've got something important to share as a townie. And most of what you've said so far this game has been pointless joking and BSing. It's very, very off.

[BHK1978]

I just want to say my reasons for Jaded and SO.

Jaded: I have said it before and I will say it again, until Jaded proves me wrong I will always think he is Scum. Jaded is just way to good at playing as Scum not to have the thought cross my mind. In Zim, Jaded and I could talk to each other and I still thought he was lying to me.:D And Jaded this is not be trying to be a jerk, this is me pointing out that you are a very good underrated player who people should pay attention to but they never do.

SuperOwens: Totally Scum in this game because he is being silent. If he was town he would be one of the driving forces in the game.

Now once again these are just my opinions and I do not have evidence one way or the other.

[Astil]

You know, you're NEVER this active as a townie. Ever. I've noticed since Gotham you're more than happy to stick to the shadows and only pop out when you've got something important to share as a townie. And most of what you've said so far this game has been pointless joking and BSing. It's very, very off.

You're setting off my scumdar. Coming to the aide of bak, telling people to trust "instincts" over night results and now using that logic to randomly go after people.

[moon_lit_tears]

You're setting off my scumdar. Coming to the aide of bak, telling people to trust "instincts" over night results and now using that logic to randomly go after people.


I'm actually trusting BAK by my instincts.

I don't trust BHK at the moment though.

[Comradebot]

You're setting off my scumdar. Coming to the aide of bak, telling people to trust "instincts" over night results and now using that logic to randomly go after people.

Have I ever, in my entire time on this board, ever defended fellow scum when I was scum?

Hell, if I thought scum on my team was screwed I'm the first the bus 'em! And in case you forgot, I defended you, too, ya know.

[BHK1978]

I'm actually trusting BAK by my instincts.

I don't trust BHK at the moment though.

Do you ever trust me?:D

This is coming from someone who put a vote on me because I said Mandy Moore was hot! Which is not an opinion it is a fact!:cool:

[Zeel1]

Do you ever trust me?:D

This is coming from someone who put a vote on me because I said Mandy Moore was hot! Which is not an opinion it is a fact!:cool:

This is coming from someone who put a vote me because I said you were an animal, and all evidence points to that being the case!:cool:

[Comradebot]

Do you ever trust me?:D

This is coming from someone who put a vote on me because I said Mandy Moore was hot! Which is not an opinion it is a fact!:cool:

I'd say she's more cute than hot. Different categories. Regardless, she's incredibly easy on the eyes.

[moon_lit_tears]

Do you ever trust me?:D

This is coming from someone who put a vote on me because I said Mandy Moore was hot! Which is not an opinion it is a fact!:cool:

VOTE bhk1978

I'll vote you each time you say that too.

I also have scummish vibes from you this game, you seem more chatty than normal.

[Antithesis]

You're setting off my scumdar. Coming to the aide of bak, telling people to trust "instincts" over night results and now using that logic to randomly go after people.

Its like he's playing the role of Bizarro MJD, who never comes to the aid of anyone and and always stresses logic...

[BHK1978]

VOTE bhk1978

I'll vote you each time you say that too.

I also have scummish vibes from you this game, you seem more chatty than normal.

:rolleyes:

Well your "vibes" will be wrong once again. Don't worry you can apologize to me after the game is over. Because as Dr. Cox once said you will be (And when you read this think about a grandfather clock.), " Wrong,Wrong, Wrong, Wrong,Wrong Wrong, Wrong, Wrong....You're WRONG!":D

More chatty? If anything I am less chatty because I really have nothing to say except trying to figure out who the hairdresser might be.

[moon_lit_tears]

:rolleyes:

Well your "vibes" will be wrong once again. Don't worry you can apologize to me after the game is over. Because as Dr. Cox once said you will be (And when you read this think about a grandfather clock.), " Wrong,Wrong, Wrong, Wrong,Wrong Wrong, Wrong, Wrong....You're WRONG!":D

More chatty? If anything I am less chatty because I really have nothing to say except trying to figure out who the hairdresser might be.

See here's the deal. You WONT get an apology from me. I don't like you enough. :D

[Astil]

Its like he's playing the role of Bizarro MJD, who never comes to the aid of anyone and and always stresses logic...

Very unlike normal C-Bot

[mjdgoldeneye]

Its like he's playing the role of Bizarro MJD, who never comes to the aid of anyone and and always stresses logic...

Isn't that regular MJD? :p

I can't be lynched for association if I always offer to lynch the other guy! :D

[BHK1978]

I don't like you enough. :D

Most people don't and my misanthropic self likes it that way.

[Olivier le Fou]

To be honest, I think Anti actually might have a point with the whole "Characters of Movies That Flopped" Group.

I mean, bak is claiming Drillbit Taylor. Not sure if he's said Protector, or Bodyguard, or what. But either way, with a scum result on him.

We have an assumed role-blocking hairdresser who could likely be this Zohan fella, from that Adam Sandler movie that floundered.

I honestly don't find it too hard to believe that they might be some form of secondary scum group. Don't get me wrong, I expect there to be a scum group stock full of movie villains...

But now that Anti's made such a suggestion, that seems equally as plausible, with the current write-up's that we have. We need to remember they're at an award ceremony. I could see characters in crap movies being jealous, no?

I guess all I've got to say, is that I'll likely be keeping my vote on. It's my ability and result that started this. I don't think I'm faulty. I don't 100% buy his claim. I may buy certain pieces of it. But as a whole? I just don't see it.

[BHK1978]

We have an assumed role-blocking hairdresser who could likely be this Zohan fella, from that Adam Sandler movie that floundered.

I never saw the Zohan movie (because I knew it was going to suck), but was he not the good guy in that movie? So why would he be a Scum roleblocker (I that is what he is)?

[Zeel1]

I never saw the Zohan movie (because I knew it was going to suck), but was he not the good guy in that movie? So why would he be a Scum roleblocker (I that is what he is)?

What they're saying is that perhaps there's a group of people that aren't villains from movies, but are leads from movies that bombed or weren't that popular.

Possible.

Here's the thing though, that would basically mean our characters know that they're just people from movies. Looking at the Opening Write-up, with the awkward silence, and the "This guy is a few sandwiches short of a picnic" line, it would appear that isn't the case.

If they don't know they're from movies, then would their movies failing even matter to them?

[Antithesis]

I never saw the Zohan movie (because I knew it was going to suck), but was he not the good guy in that movie? So why would he be a Scum roleblocker (I that is what he is)?

Just a theory.

Like VG mafia.. 2 scum groups.

One comprised of the obvious villains, one comprised of sidekicks that were "jealous" at their more famous game brethren.

Anyway its just a theory. Whoever the hairdresser is, they'd have to recognize themselves in the write up. If they blocked MLT, who knows, it might help save Bak. No ones copped to it yet though.

[moon_lit_tears]

The movie my role is fun sucked. Infact the only award my movie won was worst actor/actress. :D

So I doubt that's the right angle to look at.

[Tha Black Phenom]

You know, you're NEVER this active as a townie. Ever. I've noticed since Gotham you're more than happy to stick to the shadows and only pop out when you've got something important to share as a townie. And most of what you've said so far this game has been pointless joking and BSing. It's very, very off.

Them fightan words!

Hey now, that's not fully true. I'm very on and off among the games, I think rather most people don't notice me straight off the bat. Look back in Pokemon, Scrubs, and if you want a less themey game, my v1.0 (elf in SIN.

Then there's the games where I do jack in the beginning, then the town gets in trouble or need of direction towards the end and I decide to step up and lay the smackdown where need be(Super Sillines, Host). Only subverted in Host by failing horribly since I was dealing with Lynchbaits Inc.

Even more recently, I was all over the place in Star Wars... before falling off the loop somewhere in the end. Then picked back up but barely.

The rest I'll concede though. But when I'm in it.. I'm in it to win it. Don't fret about me, I'm G.O.O.D. Kanye style.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Oh, and in this game? Joking and BSing? Looking in the wrong thread, fella. :o

[Tha Black Phenom]

Anyway its just a theory. Whoever the hairdresser is, they'd have to recognize themselves in the write up. If they blocked MLT, who knows, it might help save Bak. No ones copped to it yet though.

Maybe because of the key word being "might"?

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 9 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Antithesis]

Maybe because of the key word being "might"?

Well, just thought I'd throw it out there to entertain the Bak legal defense team. The way I read this day phase, unless something changes, bak will be lynched. The more obvious question will be how far Cbot will stick his neck out... figuratively and literally I suppose.

[moon_lit_tears]

So it's lynch bak based on O le F's results.

Anti, if he targets you tonight and gets a scum result, are you willing to go down just because?


I'm sorry but my gut says we hold off.

That's just me and I'm usually wrong, but Eh!

[BHK1978]

So it's lynch bak based on O le F's results.

Anti, if he targets you tonight and gets a scum result, are you willing to go down just because?


I'm sorry but my gut says we hold off.

That's just me and I'm usually wrong, but Eh!

Trying to defend your fellow Scum?

[Zeel1]

Trying to defend your fellow Scum?

Trying to keep us from using all the time we have?

... see how easy that is to do? :p

[moon_lit_tears]

Trying to defend your fellow Scum?

Yes you got me. You found me out so quickly that I don't know how to...oh wait sorry I was dreaming there for a moment.


If he were my scum buddy would he have targeted me last night?

I mean maybe you might think so, but why would we put it out there like that?

*shakes head*

[Tha Black Phenom]

So it's lynch bak based on O le F's results.

Anti, if he targets you tonight and gets a scum result, are you willing to go down just because?

I think that would depend on the pending lynch's result..

[Astil]

Maybe a silly question, but what proof do we have that he even targeted MLT, besides his word?

He could be lying about that. Hell, he could have targeted Arrows.

Unless I missed something.

[BHK1978]

Maybe a silly question, but what proof do we have that he even targeted MLT, besides his word?

He could be lying about that. Hell, he could have targeted Arrows.

Unless I missed something.

I was actually going to post that. When I said she and he were Scum buddies it was a joke. But it is not as far fetched as she would make it out to be.

[moon_lit_tears]

I was actually going to post that. When I said she and he were Scum buddies it was a joke. But it is not as far fetched as she would make it out to be.

Actually it is.

See if I were on a scum team with him, and his experience don't you think it would be a bad idea to do this day 2? I mean give me a little credit. I'm not all that good at this game, but i think I'm a little smarter than that.

I see the day ending in a lynch of Bak unfortunately I'm just not totally sure he's scum, nor am I sure he's town.

[Antithesis]

So it's lynch bak based on O le F's results.

Anti, if he targets you tonight and gets a scum result, are you willing to go down just because?


I'm sorry but my gut says we hold off.

That's just me and I'm usually wrong, but Eh!

I don't care if he targets me... like I said, I got a character thats obviously a good guy and is probably known by every male here. If he wants to say I'm scum after I claim, then the questions can start. Always in these sorts of scenarios I laugh at the prospect of anyone even pretending I seem suspicious. Its why I hold themed games with a bit of disinterest. The town has such a huge advantage. Even now the common speculation is Town = Good, heroic movie characters, scum = villains.

I am hoping the game turns out to be more nuanced than that, but even if it isn't, there are still the basics. Someone comes out claiming an investigator with a negative result, it gets tested. All the sad puppy dog eyes in the world don't change that.

Again, if someone wants to volunteer some more info that makes Drillbit Taylor seem more likely, or that could explain the investigation result, I could see room for doubt... but claiming a power role when faced with a scum result is the easiest thing in the world for scum to do.

[Antithesis]

Maybe a silly question, but what proof do we have that he even targeted MLT, besides his word?

He could be lying about that. Hell, he could have targeted Arrows.

Unless I missed something.

What, you mean you may actually doubt the word of someone who did not come up town aligned?

OUTRAGEOUS!

[Antithesis]

Actually it is.

See if I were on a scum team with him, and his experience don't you think it would be a bad idea to do this day 2? I mean give me a little credit. I'm not all that good at this game, but i think I'm a little smarter than that.

I see the day ending in a lynch of Bak unfortunately I'm just not totally sure he's scum, nor am I sure he's town.

You don't have to be a on a scum team with him for him to be scum...

right?

[moon_lit_tears]

You don't have to be a on a scum team with him for him to be scum...

right?


Correct, I was pointing out to BHK that IF I was on a scum team with him I would not be posting this stuff.

[Comradebot]

Well, if didn't target MLT it'd be ballsy to say he did... all it'd take was just one person to actually have been watching MLT or tracking him and he'd get called out. This early it's a totally plausible scum move, don't get me wrong, but it'd still require a hefty sack.

I'm sticking with what I think for now. My gut says he really is Drillbit Taylor, a protector, and the reason OLF got a scum result is because the actor who plays his character is freaking insane and it's a massive joke that Taker just couldn't resist putting in the game.

[moon_lit_tears]

Well, if didn't target MLT it'd be ballsy to say he did... all it'd take was just one person to actually have been watching MLT or tracking him and he'd get called out. This early it's a totally plausible scum move, don't get me wrong, but it'd still require a hefty sack.

I'm sticking with what I think for now. My gut says he really is Drillbit Taylor, a protector, and the reason OLF got a scum result is because the actor who plays his character is freaking insane and it's a massive joke that Taker just couldn't resist putting in the game.

That's how I feel right now. Well I don't know the movie or anything, but I just get a scum feel.

[Astil]

What, you mean you may actually doubt the word of someone who did not come up town aligned?

OUTRAGEOUS!

PREPOSTEROUS!

I'd bank of O being a solid investigator, therefor we lynch Bak.

1 + 1 = 2.

[Astil]

Well, if didn't target MLT it'd be ballsy to say he did... all it'd take was just one person to actually have been watching MLT or tracking him and he'd get called out. This early it's a totally plausible scum move, don't get me wrong, but it'd still require a hefty sack.

I'm sticking with what I think for now. My gut says he really is Drillbit Taylor, a protector, and the reason OLF got a scum result is because the actor who plays his character is freaking insane and it's a massive joke that Taker just couldn't resist putting in the game.

You are so scum.

[Comradebot]

You are so scum.

Funny, everyone said the same thing about you yesterday. Care to remember who argued the logic of why we should keep you around and why lynching you for information, if you're telling the truth, was a terrible move?

Funny how in just over a day how much things can flip...

[Antithesis]

Correct, I was pointing out to BHK that IF I was on a scum team with him I would not be posting this stuff.

Or maybe you would and would just say that you wouldn't...

WIFOM


Here is what is known... unless paired up or a mason, Town aligned people cannot know another person's alignment with 100% certainty.. not on day 2.

To defend someone that a claimed investigator says isn't town aligned requires more than just feelings to be persuasive, it requires evidence.

There is a line between saying "I don't think X is scum so I won't vote" to trying to convince other people that your feeling is correct.

Afterall, you could be right, or you could be wrong. Easiest way to tell is to lynch bak and see what the result is, but until some degree of certainty is ascertained, the truth is you can't know (unless you are scum) and moving from not voting to actively defending actually forces the issue even faster, because now people will want to see if there is a possible link.

As I briefly mentioned before, its actually a smooth way for scum to get townies lynched, but whether bak is town or scum, that answer will only known if he's lynched.

[Astil]

Funny, everyone said the same thing about you yesterday. Care to remember who argued the logic of why we should keep you around and why lynching you for information, if you're telling the truth, was a terrible move?

Funny how in just over a day how much things can flip...

Is there a reason you are adamantly defending someone who got a scum result? Do you really think our protector is both a miller and lynch bait? That'd be rather... unfair, no?

[Antithesis]

Is there a reason you are adamantly defending someone who got a scum result? Do you really think our protector is both a miller and lynch bait? That'd be rather... unfair, no?

Bak claimed to be good aligned, and never mentioned anything about being a miller iirc, so a wrong result would be more of a framer/busdriver/ screwy investigator deal.

C-bot brings up a good point about OLF and the actor. Myself, the actor who played my character might even be a better choice for what he's suggesting, but alas, my role is based what happened/was said with the character in the movie, has nothing to do with the actor who played him.

Maybe some folks are different.

[BHK1978]

I think I shall put my vote back, because if we do not get this out of the way now it is going to be like a Destiny Day (trademark Anti) everyday bak is kept in this game.

Vote: bak42

[BHK1978]

Bak claimed to be good aligned, and never mentioned anything about being a miller iirc, so a wrong result would be more of a framer/busdriver/ screwy investigator deal.

C-bot brings up a good point about OLF and the actor. Myself, the actor who played my character might even be a better choice for what he's suggesting, but alas, my role is based what happened/was said with the character in the movie, has nothing to do with the actor who played him.

Maybe some folks are different.

I agree, my role is based off of the character and not the person that played said role.

[Comradebot]

Is there a reason you are adamantly defending someone who got a scum result? Do you really think our protector is both a miller and lynch bait? That'd be rather... unfair, no?

Some protectors are millers. Can't say much more than that at the moment (no, I am NOT a protector).

I'm defending him because I believe him. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'll pay the price if I am. That said, in my mind a healthy protector is more valuable than one extra night where the investigation is a little more certain.

That, and Drillbit Taylor certainly makes sense as a protector... and almost as a Miller. Combined with the fact there's reason in my mind to doubt OLF's results, well...

It's enough for me that I was willing to try and look down other avenues this day phase. Instead, everyone threw down their vote and ducked out of the thread. I put a vote on TBP, he laughed it off. MLT put one on BHK, he laughed it off. It's a waste of valuable time, and I tried to avoid it. I think bak is telling the truth. Apparently, believing someone and trying to do more with 48 hours than kill him to see if the investigator is crazy or not makes me scum. Lulz.

Like I said, if he's scum I'll eat my crow and applaud the town for stringing up a bad guy. Heck, I'll go ahead and give everyone that reason why there's no chance of me being scum, if folks ask for it. Though personally, I always enjoy not being fully trusted... it's the only way I usually make it past night two.

[Antithesis]

I think I shall put my vote back, because if we do not get this out of the way now it is going to be like a Destiny Day (trademark Anti) everyday bak is kept in this game.

Vote: bak42

Well there is that too.

I suppose some think, well let it go and it will correct itself...

Thing is eitehr we lynch him (or if he is town scum kill him this night phase, which would be tremendously silly thing to do) or next dphase OLF comes in with another result on someone else and it will eitehr be town aligned and we lynch bak anyway, or scum and we lynch bak or the other guy to test OLF or Bak gets looked at by anotehr investigator who then has to out themselves to confirm or deny OLF.


Or just lynch him this phase and be done with it....

[Antithesis]

Some protectors are millers. Can't say much more than that at the moment (no, I am NOT a protector).

I'm defending him because I believe him. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'll pay the price if I am. That said, in my mind a healthy protector is more valuable than one extra night where the investigation is a little more certain.

That, and Drillbit Taylor certainly makes sense as a protector... and almost as a Miller. Combined with the fact there's reason in my mind to doubt OLF's results, well...

It's enough for me that I was willing to try and look down other avenues this day phase. Instead, everyone threw down their vote and ducked out of the thread. I put a vote on TBP, he laughed it off. MLT put one on BHK, he laughed it off. It's a waste of valuable time, and I tried to avoid it. I think bak is telling the truth. Apparently, believing someone and trying to do more with 48 hours than kill him to see if the investigator is crazy or not makes me scum. Lulz.

Like I said, if he's scum I'll eat my crow and applaud the town for stringing up a bad guy. Heck, I'll go ahead and give everyone that reason why there's no chance of me being scum, if folks ask for it. Though personally, I always enjoy not being fully trusted... it's the only way I usually make it past night two.

Why did you vote on TBP anyway?

[BHK1978]

Well if it means anything C-Bot I think you are probably town because when you are Scum you do not tend to post as much (And yes I know that is a stupid reason for thinking someone is town).

And yes I laughed off MLT's vote because it was for a stupid reason. So let me see...I can't say Mandy Moore is good looking because that makes me Scum. I can't say Don't Taze Me Bro because that will get me killed. Looks like I am not allowed to say much!:D

[Jman2k3]

Some protectors are millers. Can't say much more than that at the moment (no, I am NOT a protector).

I'm defending him because I believe him. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'll pay the price if I am. That said, in my mind a healthy protector is more valuable than one extra night where the investigation is a little more certain.

That, and Drillbit Taylor certainly makes sense as a protector... and almost as a Miller. Combined with the fact there's reason in my mind to doubt OLF's results, well...

It's enough for me that I was willing to try and look down other avenues this day phase. Instead, everyone threw down their vote and ducked out of the thread. I put a vote on TBP, he laughed it off. MLT put one on BHK, he laughed it off. It's a waste of valuable time, and I tried to avoid it. I think bak is telling the truth. Apparently, believing someone and trying to do more with 48 hours than kill him to see if the investigator is crazy or not makes me scum. Lulz.

Like I said, if he's scum I'll eat my crow and applaud the town for stringing up a bad guy. Heck, I'll go ahead and give everyone that reason why there's no chance of me being scum, if folks ask for it. Though personally, I always enjoy not being fully trusted... it's the only way I usually make it past night two.

Yeah wasn't Alucard are miller protector in Over9000?

[Comradebot]

Why did you vote on TBP anyway?

Because I have a strong feeling he's scum. Couple of other folks to some extent, too, but I like to look into people one at a time and he's the one person who's really stood out to me in that regard.

Obviously I have no evidence, but I rarely do. Just the way he's acting... just seems like it isn't his natural self.

[BHK1978]

Yeah wasn't Alucard are miller protector in Over9000?

I think you are right. That was Grunt's role right?

[moon_lit_tears]

I think you are right. That was Grunt's role right?



Yes

[Comradebot]

Yes

Petrija was Alucard, Grunt was that Integra Hellsing.

[Antithesis]

Thought it was Pet who protected Grunt...

[moon_lit_tears]

It was something like that..
Eh...

It's late..or early...I need sleep....but not really...

g'night...maybe...

[BHK1978]

Petrija was Alucard, Grunt was that Integra Hellsing.

Thought it was Pet who protected Grunt...

Yeah you both are right.:o

[Antithesis]

Also seem to remember that she knew she was a miller of sorts.

Either its a major point Bak forgot to mention, or we have a mod who likes to put miller's into the game without telling them they are millers.

Assuming Bak is being honest... of course.

[Comradebot]

Also seem to remember that she knew she was a miller of sorts.

Either its a major point Bak forgot to mention, or we have a mod who likes to put miller's into the game without telling them they are millers.

Assuming Bak is being honest... of course.

A little chaos is nice. Wouldn't tell a paranoid investigator "by the way, everyone you investigate will come up scum!"

I think Millers should be strongly hinted at in the PM, maybe not explicitly stated. That said, the fact Drillbit Taylor starts the film looking for an excuse to rob a bunch of innocent people very well COULD be that hint.

Or bak could be lying and is scum.

Or OLF could've recieved faulty results.

[BHK1978]

Also seem to remember that she knew she was a miller of sorts.

Either its a major point Bak forgot to mention, or we have a mod who likes to put miller's into the game without telling them they are millers.

Assuming Bak is being honest... of course.

Okay noob question, if one gets the miller role they are told about it in their PM? Is that always the case?

Yes I remember Pet saying she knew or at least I thought so.

[moon_lit_tears]

It's almost 2:30am. I'm going to bed.

I will say I'm stuck on this one, but I see the point in the lynch. It will answer some questions. It just stinks if he is who he claims to be, then we are down a protector. That helps scum more than it helps us.

I hope he comes up scum, but something tells me he won't. If he does yay for us though.

Anyway BHK you can laugh my vote off if you choose to it won't hurt my feelings any. I've already decided how I'm playing this game, it will be a bit different but whatever. I don't really give a care to what you think my vote means. You are the one who popped up in my mind as scum, the Mandy Moore thing just gave me a reason to put my vote there.

If we decide to lynch Bak (I assume we will) I will put my vote. I won't until it's later in the phase and we have had time to discuss this and maybe some other issues, like something that's been bugging me all day.

If Astil needs to find Mr Smith and he has been outted, what's to stop scum from killing one or the other tonight? I mean seriously if the person they are hunting can be killed, or is in a group with a kill, that's where the kill will most likely go. IF they are telling the truth.

[Comradebot]

Hey, SuperOwens...

Do YOU think a Miller-Protector is a plausible role?

[moon_lit_tears]

It's almost 2:30am. I'm going to bed.

I will say I'm stuck on this one, but I see the point in the lynch. It will answer some questions. It just stinks if he is who he claims to be, then we are down a protector. That helps scum more than it helps us.

I hope he comes up scum, but something tells me he won't. If he does yay for us though.

Anyway BHK you can laugh my vote off if you choose to it won't hurt my feelings any. I've already decided how I'm playing this game, it will be a bit different but whatever. I don't really give a care to what you think my vote means. You are the one who popped up in my mind as scum, the Mandy Moore thing just gave me a reason to put my vote there.

If we decide to lynch Bak (I assume we will) I will put my vote. I won't until it's later in the phase and we have had time to discuss this and maybe some other issues, like something that's been bugging me all day.

If Astil needs to find Mr Smith and he has been outted, what's to stop scum from killing one or the other tonight? I mean seriously if the person they are hunting can kill, or is in a group with a kill, that's where the kill will most likely go. IF they are telling the truth.

Stupid typos.

[Antithesis]

Okay noob question, if one gets the miller role they are told about it in their PM? Is that always the case?

Yes I remember Pet saying she knew or at least I thought so.

Mods are of course free to do what they want. My personal opinion is that a good mod would inform the player before hand.

There are plenty of role variations at say, Mafiascum, which pretty much doom the player who gets them to death (and in some cases) a loss. But I think the history here at GDS is pretty much that sort of thing is discouraged.. to the point that a mod would probably look bad if he did something major (like give a negative alignment check upon investigations) and didn't tell that player in the role PM.

[Antithesis]

It's almost 2:30am. I'm going to bed.

I will say I'm stuck on this one, but I see the point in the lynch. It will answer some questions. It just stinks if he is who he claims to be, then we are down a protector. That helps scum more than it helps us.

I hope he comes up scum, but something tells me he won't. If he does yay for us though.

Anyway BHK you can laugh my vote off if you choose to it won't hurt my feelings any. I've already decided how I'm playing this game, it will be a bit different but whatever. I don't really give a care to what you think my vote means. You are the one who popped up in my mind as scum, the Mandy Moore thing just gave me a reason to put my vote there.

If we decide to lynch Bak (I assume we will) I will put my vote. I won't until it's later in the phase and we have had time to discuss this and maybe some other issues, like something that's been bugging me all day.

If Astil needs to find Mr Smith and he has been outted, what's to stop scum from killing one or the other tonight? I mean seriously if the person they are hunting can be killed, or is in a group with a kill, that's where the kill will most likely go. IF they are telling the truth.

What stopped em from doing it last night? If the two of them are being honest, (or if only Glotnot) still Glot would have been an obvious target. WOulda thought a protector would have protected him, tbh.

[Comradebot]

Mods are of course free to do what they want. My personal opinion is that a good mod would inform the player before hand.

There are plenty of role variations at say, Mafiascum, which pretty much doom the player who gets them to death (and in some cases) a loss. But I think the history here at GDS is pretty much that sort of thing is discouraged.. to the point that a mod would probably look bad if he did something major (like give a negative alignment check upon investigations) and didn't tell that player in the role PM.

I really don't think asking players to read their role PM and make their own, educated decision is asking too much. It's only dooming the townie if there's absolutely ZERO evidence he's a miller when he is one. If you don't take the time to read your role PM and figure out that something might be amiss, then it's your own fault.

What stopped em from doing it last night? If the two of them are being honest, (or if only Glotnot) still Glot would have been an obvious target. WOulda thought a protector would have protected him, tbh.

Shouldn't that have also meant Glot was the obvious kill choice, therefore scum knew it meant he was also the obvious protect choice? Maybe think that since he's so obvious someone ELSE might protect/watch him, and you should keep an eye on someone, spread out the town's resources a bit.

[SmartBomb]

2. If I'm still alive come Day 2, fire away. Just understand there's absolutely nothing you can do to actually worry me.


Interesting. If I get your hint properly your claiming an ability I myself have...

Nope.

So what.. you're unlynchable?

Bulletproof then? Or maybe a hider?

>.<

Nevermind. Stupid jumping to conclusions.

[Antithesis]

Shouldn't that have also meant Glot was the obvious kill choice, therefore scum knew it meant he was also the obvious protect choice? Maybe think that since he's so obvious someone ELSE might protect/watch him, and you should keep an eye on someone, spread out the town's resources a bit.

I dunno, I tend to think the obvious protection choice should obviously be protected...

for obvious reasons. :p

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 10 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Destiny]

Well, my vote's staying exactly where it is for the time being as I have no reason to believe that Olivier Le Fou would get the wrong result.

[Gabbo]

I had that in Zim, except it didn't redirect, they just failed.

That's not a nexus, that's just untargetable. I seem to recall you creating chaos in that Zim game over the definition of nexus.

Not gonna lie, I saw the message in my PM and just assumed that you going out was the reason I couldn't find you.

Blehk. I suck at this.

Maybe it was a game thing, like explaining why I didn't see you, go 'sup, let's kill some peeps' and we went off on our way.

My PM states, paraphrasing. You found Mr. Smith! You will be able to use him to help take down Karl Hertz tomorrow night.

Sorry about adding in assumptions. Rookie move.

That's the second noteable mistake in this game. Reminds me of Sci-fi Chaos you played dumb about most things, if I recall correctly.

:rolleyes:

Well your "vibes" will be wrong once again. Don't worry you can apologize to me after the game is over. Because as Dr. Cox once said you will be (And when you read this think about a grandfather clock.), " Wrong,Wrong, Wrong, Wrong,Wrong Wrong, Wrong, Wrong....You're WRONG!":D

More chatty? If anything I am less chatty because I really have nothing to say except trying to figure out who the hairdresser might be.

Should have gone with Edge not Dr. Cox. :D



There's a case to be made for Drillbit (without seeing the movie) but I'm a down-the-line man, I didn't let shenanigans take over in SW and I won't here. We got a scum result. If he comes up town, we've lost the miller but it also means there's a very small chance of any other miller thus OLF can be trusted from this point on. You're never gonna have a sure lynch but there's an awful lot to be gained from this lynch even in worse case scenario.

For what it's worth though I don't think not informing the player he's a miller is in any way a bastard move as a mod.

Personally, I don't think he's Drillbit, although I do think he's a protector. I think he's scum and protected a team-mate. The smaller facts in his favour I believe are the result of the claim not being thought through. I'll be sort of around for a couple more hours then I'm away for a few days so unless I hear anything drastic in the next few hours I will vote for Bak.

[BlueStar]

I won't be online much the next day...and a scum investigation on someone is pretty much evidence.

A miller without knowing it? Not a chance. And I wouldn't think a framer would target bak at this stage. Just my 0.02.


Change vote: bak42

[Destiny]

I'm very pleased that we surely have a successful lynch candidiate today, as well as over twenty-four overs left in the phase in which to discuss as much as possible.

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 11 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[moon_lit_tears]

What stopped em from doing it last night? If the two of them are being honest, (or if only Glotnot) still Glot would have been an obvious target. WOulda thought a protector would have protected him, tbh.

Possible.

I'm very pleased that we surely have a successful lynch candidiate today, as well as over twenty-four overs left in the phase in which to discuss as much as possible.

Really.....REALLY...........REALLY????? That's ALL you can say...

Ok, I'm going to leave before I say anything stupid...

[The Shape]

I'm not buying actors having anything to do with roles. If there was one exception where it did (like that guy in Hollywood Horror) I think that the player in question would know about it. I have slightly more regard for the idea of a miller not knowing he was one, especially as nobody else has stepped up and counter-claimed that element, but even that is flimsy at best.

[SuperOwens]

Hey, SuperOwens...

Do YOU think a Miller-Protector is a plausible role?

Plausible? Yes.

In this case I'm not buying it though. Why target MLT? As has already been said she has the best record to staying alive. Why target her night 1.

Now you instigated that there was some obvious reason for it? I cant see that at all. Obvious reason to be a protector, Yep. Obvious reason to target the person who never dies night 1 on night 1. Nope.

I could maybe buy that Bak thought scum may go after her for that exact reason, bit like Bot, Grunt et all die fairly early. Used that tactic myself.

His reasoning though was because she seemed townie. Just seems off.

[Destiny]

Really.....REALLY...........REALLY????? That's ALL you can say...

Ok, I'm going to leave before I say anything stupid...

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this. I've had plenty more to say during this day phase including helping you get through your confusion as to the difference between a protector and a roleblocker.

[Gabbo]

Plausible? Yes.

In this case I'm not buying it though. Why target MLT? As has already been said she has the best record to staying alive. Why target her night 1.

Now you instigated that there was some obvious reason for it? I cant see that at all. Obvious reason to be a protector, Yep. Obvious reason to target the person who never dies night 1 on night 1. Nope.

I could maybe buy that Bak thought scum may go after her for that exact reason, bit like Bot, Grunt et all die fairly early. Used that tactic myself.

His reasoning though was because she seemed townie. Just seems off.


Why doesn't anyone else see 'the obvious'?

[SuperOwens]

Why doesn't anyone else see 'the obvious'?

It threw me off as it seemed like bot was saying, "no, he isn't a protector. Read the wiki" as if targeting MLT was a good choice for whatever role he had.

I'd suggest Bak is a role blocker that got MLT hints day 1.

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this. I've had plenty more to say during this day phase including helping you get through your confusion as to the difference between a protector and a roleblocker.

I know the difference between a protector and a roleblocker. My question was could a BODYGUARD do both. There was no confusing the two things.

Plausible? Yes.

In this case I'm not buying it though. Why target MLT? As has already been said she has the best record to staying alive. Why target her night 1.

Now you instigated that there was some obvious reason for it? I cant see that at all. Obvious reason to be a protector, Yep. Obvious reason to target the person who never dies night 1 on night 1. Nope.

I could maybe buy that Bak thought scum may go after her for that exact reason, bit like Bot, Grunt et all die fairly early. Used that tactic myself.

His reasoning though was because she seemed townie. Just seems off.


I'm not saying I know he's town or scum, but Do scum usually follow the same pattern each game? Do they attack the same people? I mean hell why doesn't town win every game? They have a certain person they HAVE to target each night.

Why does my record of survival mean anything? Am I not worth a check on night 1 once in a blue moon? WTF. You claim his argument seems off. BUT this whole bit about "oh scum wouldn't do this or scum wouldn't do that" seems off to me.

[Destiny]

Scum don't necessarily have to target the same person on the first night of every game, and they generally don't. However, targetting you for a kill would still be a very odd move considering how large the amount players in the game is.

[moon_lit_tears]

Scum don't necessarily have to target the same person on the first night of every game, and they generally don't. However, targetting you for a kill would still be a very odd move considering how large the amount players in the game is.


So my chances of being targeted are lower than others. Please explain this logic to me, because as I'm reading this it comes across to me as

"You're not good enough for a kill on night1"

Quite frankly I find that insulting, but whatever.

I'm just glad we all know who and when scum are going to target. This game should be a slam dunk for town. Yay for us. :)

[supermareo]

Nope. I chose to stay in last night.

this maybe an odd question but with astil saying he did find you as mr smith last night did YOU get a pm or anything about it

[Destiny]

I don't think that's too odd of a question at all, supermareo, and the answer could go a long way into deciphering the legitimacy of Astil's claim.

[The Shape]

MichiganHero, you there?

[Destiny]

MichiganHero is definately viewing this thread, and has been for several minutes.

[MichiganHero]

MichiganHero, you there?

Yeah. Computer is fixed now. Don't really have much to add at this moment. bak's claim seems legit and Astil's doesn't make much sense to me.

[Destiny]

Well, whilst you're here you should add something. Why do you think bak42 is telling the truth exactly?

[MichiganHero]

Well, whilst you're here you should add something. Why do you think bak42 is telling the truth exactly?

Well. From what I gather (Haven't watched Drillbit Taylor) he is a (poor) bodyguard. So him being a bodyguard with maybe a 50% chance of succeeding is entirely plausible.

[The Shape]

Well. From what I gather (Haven't watched Drillbit Taylor) he is a (poor) bodyguard. So him being a bodyguard with maybe a 50% chance of succeeding is entirely plausible.

So why do you think he came up non-town?

[MichiganHero]

So why do you think he came up non-town?

Maybe O Le F is a paranoid investigator, or maybe UT666 is evil and hates Drillbit?

[The Shape]

Any thoughts about anyone/anything else?

[MichiganHero]

Any thoughts about anyone/anything else?

Nope.

[iMac]

I'm tempted to believe OLeF purely because of his post claiming it would be hard to kill him.

A hard-to-kill-paranoid investigator seems very unlikely imo.

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm tempted to believe OLeF purely because of his post claiming it would be hard to kill him.

A hard-to-kill-paranoid investigator seems very unlikely imo.

Since when is a normal investigator hard to kill?

[Destiny]

Just playing devil's advocate here, but if anything, a hard-to-kill paranoid investigator is more likely than a normal hard to kill investigator as it offers more balance to the role and stops it from being too over-powered.

[MichiganHero]

Since when is a normal investigator hard to kill?

Exactly. Unless the investigator is an indy, then he/she should just have the invesigatory powers. Unless it is Chuck Norris. But he would be a PGO or PBO. Maybe even a PRK (Paranoid Roundhouse Kicker).

[moon_lit_tears]

Exactly. Unless the investigator is an indy, then he/she should just have the invesigatory powers. Unless it is Chuck Norris. But he would be a PGO or PBO. Maybe even a PRK (Paranoid Roundhouse Kicker).


Chuck Norris has a score to settle with me. :D

I just don't see an investigator being harder to kill because he's a normal one, maybe a paranoid one would be, but not a normal one.

[iMac]

Since when is a normal investigator hard to kill?

Think you've missed my point. I was trying to say that if you were gonna make an investigator hard to kill, it would be more than likely that he was a normal investigator.

[Paws7297]

I'm sticking with what I think for now. My gut says he really is Drillbit Taylor, a protector, and the reason OLF got a scum result is because the actor who plays his character is freaking insane and it's a massive joke that Taker just couldn't resist putting in the game.

Chuck Norris has a score to settle with me. :D

I just don't see an investigator being harder to kill because he's a normal one, maybe a paranoid one would be, but not a normal one.

/nod. It would be unfair for a regular investigator to be hard to kill, but it does balance out a paranoid investigator's role.

[moon_lit_tears]

Think you've missed my point. I was trying to say that if you were gonna make an investigator hard to kill, it would be more than likely that he was a normal investigator.

I don't see it, I don't think a normal one would be harder to kill. I don't even think it would be a good idea to throw in. I can think of better people to be harder to kill.

[iMac]

Although since it appears most of you disagree with me, my opinion could be wrong! :p

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm not saying it's wrong, because we don't know.

I'm just saying the odds of a harder to kill investigator is a bit much to me. If he were a miller and was paranoid it would be a bit more believable, but maybe I'm wrong too. :)

[Destiny]

Unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure Olivier Le Fou clarified exactly how he is harder to kill.

[The Shape]

There have definitely been hard to kill investigators in the past.

[bak42]

If we lynch bak42 today and he comes up scum then we'll have a valuable townie resource to use for the rest of the game assuming the townies with active abilities choose their targets wisely.Execpt for the fact that I'll come up town and you'll lose a valuable townie resource.

I think there's still more than enough votes on Bak at the moment to pressure, while keeping us out of shenanigan range, so I'll hold my vote for now.What more is there to get out of me? I've given you my role title and told you everyone I've targeted, about the only thing left is what I do and several people have already figured that out anyway.

Change Vote: Bak42

The thing about Drillbit Taylor is ... he's a pushover. He can't fight. That's the point of the 'comedy'. Look at this idiot try to teach these nerds how to fight when he can't.

So when you say "I'm who you want to keep alive as a outted investigator". That leads me to think you are claiming protector. Which does not match Drillbit.You may not think it fits, but that's my role.

or Bak roleblocked you and is trying to claim protector...

occam's razorNo, Occam's razor in this case would be I'm telling the truth about my role.

Vote: bak42

Not lynching by day 2 makes for a dull game.http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/bak42/icon_facepalm.gif

Also seem to remember that she knew she was a miller of sorts.

Either its a major point Bak forgot to mention, or we have a mod who likes to put miller's into the game without telling them they are millers.

Assuming Bak is being honest... of course.

I already said that my role PM doesn't say anything about me being a miller. It mentions that I'm a bum, which could be why I'd come up scum, but it doesn't specifically say that I'm a miller. Heck, if it had, I would have said it back on day 1 to prevent this sort of situation.

At this point, I'm seriously close to just saying "screw it," voting for my own lynch and hoping that when I come up Good aligned the town takes a good hard look at those people pushing for my lynch.

[Astil]

No, Mr. Razor would be lynching the person who came up scum.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Because I have a strong feeling he's scum. Couple of other folks to some extent, too, but I like to look into people one at a time and he's the one person who's really stood out to me in that regard.

Obviously I have no evidence, but I rarely do. Just the way he's acting... just seems like it isn't his natural self.

Fine. You and I are gonna straighten this ish out tomorrow.

I know the difference between a protector and a roleblocker. My question was could a BODYGUARD do both. There was no confusing the two things.

That'd be a jailer.

I'm not saying I know he's town or scum, but Do scum usually follow the same pattern each game? Do they attack the same people? I mean hell why doesn't town win every game? They have a certain person they HAVE to target each night.

Why does my record of survival mean anything? Am I not worth a check on night 1 once in a blue moon? WTF. You claim his argument seems off. BUT this whole bit about "oh scum wouldn't do this or scum wouldn't do that" seems off to me.

So my chances of being targeted are lower than others. Please explain this logic to me, because as I'm reading this it comes across to me as

"You're not good enough for a kill on night1"

Quite frankly I find that insulting, but whatever.

I'm just glad we all know who and when scum are going to target. This game should be a slam dunk for town. Yay for us. :)

It's not insulting and you know it. It's just the pecking order of things. Just look at it as... there's a reason why you stay alive so often. I'm not gonna go farther than that. Doesn't mean you're not eligible for a cover or anything but going by what history taught us... covering you has a high chance of being an uneventful tactic.

You're proactive when can be. If anything you're kinda dangerous because you like to make the town talk, but coming back to the main point if I was a protector, I'd rely on high probabilities.

If you want another valid reason for why there would be reluctance to cover you, I would hazard a guess you'd play the exact same if you ever became full-fledged scum. I won't lie, every game that kicks off I get wary looks at you. I never know when you'll finally be scum and we won't get to catch upon it quicker than usual.

Now, having said all that, I don't think protecting you is COMPLETELY out of the blue, or 100% unrealistic. Far from it. I'm just judging on the odds.

[Destiny]

That's a great post Tha Black Phenom. moon_lit_tears, take it as a compliment that you have the skill to stay alive for a long time in these games as well as attaining a high level of post contribution in game threads.

[Glotnot]

this maybe an odd question but with astil saying he did find you as mr smith last night did YOU get a pm or anything about it

I don't think that's too odd of a question at all, supermareo, and the answer could go a long way into deciphering the legitimacy of Astil's claim.

I did not get any such thing.

I don't even see in the write-up where this would happen.

And I didn't get a PM saying D.Q. found me.

[Destiny]

Interesting, as in one of Astil's posts he says that you'll be out killing together tonight, which you'd think you'd know about.

[Gabbo]

Right, I'll have limited internet access now until Sunday. I'll try to keep up on my mobile but it'll be hard work.

I said I would earlier and nothing changed my mind.

vote: bak42

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 12 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Destiny]

My vote's staying exactly where it is as well as I'll be at work all day tomorrow, so won't be around until night phase.

[supermareo]

I did not get any such thing.

I don't even see in the write-up where this would happen.

And I didn't get a PM saying D.Q. found me.

Interesting, as in one of Astil's posts he says that you'll be out killing together tonight, which you'd think you'd know about.

this pretty much sums up my thoughts

[hellshock70]

Just got caught up.

A hard to kill investigator?

John McClane? or someone similar?

and McClane was one guy that was kind of paranoid at times with everyone gunning for him.

[Max Peck]

Yeah, I don't buy the Drillbit Taylor tack...

Vote: bak42

[Olivier le Fou]

Just got caught up.

A hard to kill investigator?

John McClane? or someone similar?

and McClane was one guy that was kind of paranoid at times with everyone gunning for him.

Just thought I'd say that there would be absolutely no point in me hinting at my role, if you're just going to publically guess at it.

Most people who know read my all of my hints, and looked into them, know who I am. As you can see, none of them have blatantly stepped forward and said who I am, as that would have defeated even hinting, in the first place.

I'm not John McClane. I'm sure looking back at all the hints, (I mean, I only have about six posts in thread, anyway), I'm sure you can figure it out. But to not render the effort that went into hinting, and people figuring it out on their own, useless, it's probably best you just look into it, and keep it to yourself. I wasn't too not vague at all, with. It's just polite.

[hellshock70]

Just thought I'd say that there would be absolutely no point in me hinting at my role, if you're just going to publically guess at it.

Most people who know read my all of my hints, and looked into them, know who I am. As you can see, none of them have blatantly stepped forward and said who I am, as that would have defeated even hinting, in the first place.

I'm not John McClane. I'm sure looking back at all the hints, (I mean, I only have about six posts in thread, anyway), I'm sure you can figure it out. But to not render the effort that went into hinting, and people figuring it out on their own, useless, it's probably best you just look into it, and keep it to yourself. I wasn't too not vague at all, with. It's just polite.

That post wasn't a guess it was an example of a paranoid cop.

Anyone remember the first diehard where he met Hans and asked the guy his name?

McClane was checking out a list right near him for names.

[hellshock70]

That post wasn't a guess it was an example of a paranoid cop.

Anyone remember the first diehard where he met Hans and asked the guy his name?

McClane was checking out a list right near him for names.

and a hard to kill cop as well.

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 13 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo, Max Peck)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[BlueStar]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 12 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo)
Astil: 1 (BlueStar)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

As much as I'd like a double-vote...I've removed my Astil vote.

[BlueStar]

Just thought I'd say that there would be absolutely no point in me hinting at my role, if you're just going to publically guess at it.

Most people who know read my all of my hints, and looked into them, know who I am. As you can see, none of them have blatantly stepped forward and said who I am, as that would have defeated even hinting, in the first place.

I'm not John McClane. I'm sure looking back at all the hints, (I mean, I only have about six posts in thread, anyway), I'm sure you can figure it out. But to not render the effort that went into hinting, and people figuring it out on their own, useless, it's probably best you just look into it, and keep it to yourself. I wasn't too not vague at all, with. It's just polite.

I think I got it. And yes, if the character and the role are somewhat similar, I have no reason to believe you are a paranoid/naive cop.

[Destiny]

The most important thing now is that we follow through with this lynch so that an investigator isn't outted for nothing.

[BlueStar]

Just got caught up.

A hard to kill investigator?

John McClane? or someone similar?

and McClane was one guy that was kind of paranoid at times with everyone gunning for him.

You make the strangest posts, hellshock...really.

[Destiny]

I know, that is funny. I remember John McClane being in a former mafia game, but I can't remember which one.

[BlueStar]

The most important thing now is that we follow through with this lynch so that an investigator isn't outted for nothing.

I'll be the one stating the drawback outright...the indy distraction D1. Town resources are going to be torn. See why I think on D1 lynching an indy with a self-proclaimed win condition was a good idea?

[Antithesis]

You make the strangest posts, hellshock...really.

Yeah... someone may have to call a Doctor soon to check for arm strain with all the reaching going on in here lately...

[BlueStar]

I know, that is funny. I remember John McClane being in a former mafia game, but I can't remember which one.

Crychons. Hollywood Horror, I think. Cyberkitten played the greatest Vig (V) role ever. And it ended with me leading a lynch on UT.

[SuperOwens]

Vote: bak42

Not sure how much I will be about for the rest of the phase.

[hellshock70]

You make the strangest posts, hellshock...really.

Diehard 1 - He's in a skyscraper and everyone he meets is gunning for him.

SO when he met Hans he was paranoid.

[Undertaker666]

As much as I'd like a double-vote...I've removed my Astil vote.

I knew that, I was just seeing if you were all paying attention........

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 14 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[BlueStar]

There's plenty of characters who would be useful as a paronoid cop...how J. McClane would fit that one, beats me.

[hellshock70]

You make the strangest posts, hellshock...really.

Any way what's so strange about an example of a paranoid cop?

[hellshock70]

There's plenty of characters who would be useful as a paronoid cop...how J. McClane would fit that one, beats me.

I guess you missed the scene I mentioned. Perfect example.

I guess you also missed or someone similar.

[moon_lit_tears]

I knew that, I was just seeing if you were all paying attention........

Me thinks it's half past beer and time for bed. :D

Any way what's so strange about an example of a paranoid cop?

Ok, ok lets not fight like star crazed divas. That's my job. :D

[hellshock70]

Just thought I'd say that there would be absolutely no point in me hinting at my role, if you're just going to publically guess at it.

Most people who know read my all of my hints, and looked into them, know who I am. As you can see, none of them have blatantly stepped forward and said who I am, as that would have defeated even hinting, in the first place.

I'm not John McClane. I'm sure looking back at all the hints, (I mean, I only have about six posts in thread, anyway), I'm sure you can figure it out. But to not render the effort that went into hinting, and people figuring it out on their own, useless, it's probably best you just look into it, and keep it to yourself. I wasn't too not vague at all, with. It's just polite.

Yep, I know.

roenick

[hellshock70]

Ok, ok lets not fight like star crazed divas. That's my job. :D

I'm not fighting.

I'm just pointing out where people seem to start reading and miss half of what's said.

[hellshock70]

Would it make people feel better if I listed all 3 paranoid cops that came to mind and it just so happens they all use that model of gun.

I would much rather him be the 1st one that came to mind anyway cause then he's even better then McClane. ;)

[Antithesis]

Would it make people feel better if I listed all 3 paranoid cops that came to mind and it just so happens they all use that model of gun.

I would much rather him be the 1st one that came to mind anyway cause then he's even better then McClane. ;)

I'd feel better if you didn't speculate.

For example, I got his hint, and even I haven't said anything, and thats my gimmick...

[Destiny]

I agree with Antithesis, which I've actually found myself doing quite a lot during this game.

[The Shape]

So yeah

Vote: Bak42

[MichiganHero]

Sorry bak if you are town but the more I read it, the more unbelieveable your claim gets.

Vote ; Bak42

[Paws7297]

Well, Vote: Bak42

I believe his claim and Ollie being a paranoid cop, thus why he's hard to kill, but since everyone else is voting on Bak, I guess this is a good way of testing wether Ollie is paranoid or regular.

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 17 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, MichiganHero, Paws7297)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Destiny]

Even though I was really pushing for this lynch, I'm a bit worried by the quick succession of votes within the last ten minutes.

[Antithesis]

Vote Count:

Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
bak42: 17 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, MichiganHero, Paws7297)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (moon lit tears)

It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

SHENANIGANS!?!?!

[Undertaker666]

Lynch has been achieved!

Writeup will follow shortly.

[BHK1978]

Even though I was really pushing for this lynch, I'm a bit worried by the quick succession of votes within the last ten minutes.

I agree the Michigan Hero vote stands out to me as being odd. He seemed to change his mind rather quickly...

[moon_lit_tears]

SHENANIGANS!?!?!

Lynch has been achieved!

Writeup will follow shortly.

LOLz

I hope he comes up scum, but I don't know...

[Antithesis]

SHENANIGANS!?!?!

Lynch has been achieved!

Writeup will follow shortly.

Guess not

[Max Peck]

Even though I was really pushing for this lynch, I'm a bit worried by the quick succession of votes within the last ten minutes.

Worried that your scum buddies did it wrong?:D

[MichiganHero]

SHENANIGANS!?!?!

No. Needed 17 to lynch and we got 17 people. Unless I have mis-counted.

[moon_lit_tears]

Worried that your scum buddies did it wrong?:D

I'm going to say this like I say each and every time this happens. We lost A big chunk of time.

[masterded]

So yeah

Vote: Bak42

Sorry bak if you are town but the more I read it, the more unbelieveable your claim gets.

Vote ; Bak42

Well, Vote: Bak42

I believe his claim and Ollie being a paranoid cop, thus why he's hard to kill, but since everyone else is voting on Bak, I guess this is a good way of testing wether Ollie is paranoid or regular.

I was about to vote after going through olf's 6 posts, how did I not know he was? And Hurray for another Minnesotan. Now that it looks like we have 17 votes I will hold off and see what happens. I will be on for the next 7 hours or so. So if any shenanigans go on I can throw on my vote.

[masterded]

Man I type slow at work. I blame work and the work phone.

[moon_lit_tears]

I was about to vote after going through olf's 6 posts, how did I not know he was? And Hurray for another Minnesotan. Now that it looks like we have 17 votes I will hold off and see what happens. I will be on for the next 7 hours or so. So if any shenanigans go on I can throw on my vote.


M-ded, You type slowly. :D

[Undertaker666]

Day 2.

Today was in direct contrast to the previous day, this time there was a clear avenue of interest. 'I'm Drillbit Taylor!', the man exclaimed as he was grabbed by the arms.

'Yeah, yeah scummy, of course you are, and I'm the Pope'.

No matter what the man said, the baying crowd wasn't listening as they strung him up.

bak42 is dead, he was Drillbit Taylor, Good Aligned Bodyguard For Hire.

'Oh crap'.

[Antithesis]

Day 2.

Today was in direct contrast to the previous day, this time there was a clear avenue of interest. 'I'm Drillbit Taylor!', the man exclaimed as he was grabbed by the arms.

'Yeah, yeah scummy, of course you are, and I'm the Pope'.

No matter what the man said, the baying crowd wasn't listening as they strung him up.

bak42 is dead, he was Drillbit Taylor, Good Aligned Bodyguard For Hire.

'Oh crap'.

well now....

[The Shape]

...Oh crap.

[MichiganHero]

O le F, got a reason for this?

[Undertaker666]

It is now Night 2. You have until Saturday 24th July 10pm BST (5pm EST) to send in your abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.

[Paws7297]

Well, Vote: Bak42

I believe his claim and Ollie being a paranoid cop, thus why he's hard to kill, but since everyone else is voting on Bak, I guess this is a good way of testing wether Ollie is paranoid or regular.

Day 2.

Today was in direct contrast to the previous day, this time there was a clear avenue of interest. 'I'm Drillbit Taylor!', the man exclaimed as he was grabbed by the arms.

'Yeah, yeah scummy, of course you are, and I'm the Pope'.

No matter what the man said, the baying crowd wasn't listening as they strung him up.

bak42 is dead, he was Drillbit Taylor, Good Aligned Bodyguard For Hire.

'Oh crap'.

Well, that sucks.

[supermareo]

Day 2.

Today was in direct contrast to the previous day, this time there was a clear avenue of interest. 'I'm Drillbit Taylor!', the man exclaimed as he was grabbed by the arms.

'Yeah, yeah scummy, of course you are, and I'm the Pope'.

No matter what the man said, the baying crowd wasn't listening as they strung him up.

bak42 is dead, he was Drillbit Taylor, Good Aligned Bodyguard For Hire.

'Oh crap'.

well crap, have to say i am surprised by this

[Max Peck]

Hmmmm

[moon_lit_tears]

Well, I agree with C-bot on the going with your gut, hence my vote not being there. Come day we need to look at all those votes that flew on rather quickly.

[Paws7297]

Hmmmm

Hmmmm

[Max Peck]

O le F, got a reason for this?

I have a theory, but I wanna hear Ollies excuse first.

[Olivier le Fou]

O le F, got a reason for this?

Oh, I'm sorry.

Have you not been following the thread?

Because if you had, you wouldn't waste time asking such "I'm trying to sound helpful"-esque questions. Max Peck, too. Don't you think if I had an explanation based off of more than assumptions, I'd have shared it BEFORE we lynched him?

We can now bank that I'm Paranoid, Insane, or Random.

Which as unlikely as that is, is the only soloution I've got.

Drillbit Taylor isn't Miller Material. I doubt Mafia Framed Him.

But hey, at least we know somethings up.

[moon_lit_tears]

Oh, I'm sorry.

Have you not been following the thread?

Because if you had, you wouldn't waste time asking such "I'm trying to sound helpful"-esque questions. Max Peck, too. Don't you think if I had an explanation based off of more than assumptions, I'd have shared it BEFORE we lynched him?

We can now bank that I'm Paranoid, Insane, or Random.

Which as unlikely as that is, is the only soloution I've got.

Drillbit Taylor isn't Miller Material. I doubt Mafia Framed Him.

But hey, at least we know somethings up.

Snarky comments are my forte, back off buddy. :D

Anyway come day we need to have some more info from you. I would rather we wait for day.

[BHK1978]

Well, I agree with C-bot on the going with your gut, hence my vote not being there. Come day we need to look at all those votes that flew on rather quickly.

Or we could look at the people that did not vote on him so that they could use it as "cover" for saying exactly what you just said.:p (See how easy it is to paint someone else as scum?)