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Paws7297
07-24-2010, 09:37 PM
Hey, Zeel: http://media.photobucket.com/image/matt%20engarde/bylightunseen/11412.jpg?o=5
@ Paws, Yeah, MLT talked/dragged me into it.
I don't tink the image worked.
Awesome, something I can actually that her for.
Paws7297
07-24-2010, 09:38 PM
I don't tink the image worked.
Awesome, something I can actually thank her for.
EBWOP
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 09:39 PM
EBYOQ
Never did figure out how he managed to sneak a bourbon glass into the detention center...
moon_lit_tears
07-24-2010, 09:40 PM
@ Paws, Yeah, MLT talked/dragged me into it.
I don't tink the image worked.
Awesome, something I can actually that her for.
That's cus you both <3 me.
Carry on..:)
Astil
07-24-2010, 09:40 PM
Never did figure out how he managed to sneak a bourbon glass into the detention center...
He's Matt Engarde, that's how.
Tha Black Phenom
07-24-2010, 09:41 PM
/nod
BTW, Twilight Mafia is READY TO GO~!
Oh god, I hate myself a little for saying that.
Daykill: Astil
Hey, Zeel: http://media.photobucket.com/image/matt%20engarde/bylightunseen/11412.jpg?o=5
@ Paws, Yeah, MLT talked/dragged me into it.
She always says a lotta things. Why do you give in!?? :mad: :p
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 09:42 PM
He's Matt Engarde, that's how.
This is true.
Wouldn't surprise me if he was more badass than he let on. I mean, for one thing, judging by those scars, he seemingly survived a lion attack.
Tha Black Phenom
07-24-2010, 09:42 PM
Oh, and:
Vote: masterded
Think that should be enough.
Paws7297
07-24-2010, 09:43 PM
That's cus you both <3 me.
Carry on..:)
*cough cough gag cough* :p
Ok fine maybe I do. :D
This Post Is On topic.
I forgot to VOTE: MASTERDED earlier when I posted I don't believe his claim and trust MNN.
Astil
07-24-2010, 09:45 PM
Daykill: Astil
She always says a lotta things. Why do you give in!?? :mad: :p
Boobs.
This is true.
Wouldn't surprise me if he was more badass than he let on. I mean, for one thing, judging by those scars, he seemingly survived a lion attack.
/nod
Change Vote: Matt Engarde
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 09:45 PM
Day 1
1. mjdgoldeneye
2. Midnightnick
3. Comradebot - Voted Antithesis (1)
4. Jaded - Voted Astil (6)
5. The Shape - Voted Astil (5), Changed to No Vote
6. BHK1978 - Voted Moon lit tears (1), Changed to Destiny (2), Changed to No Vote, Changed to Zeel1 (1)
7. Astil - Voted Moon lit tears (2), Changed to Max Peck (1)
8. Max Peck - Voted Astil (1)
9. Tha Black Phenom
10. Arrows
11. masterded
12. Glotnot
13. moon lit tears - Voted Jman2k3 (1), Changed to BHK1978 (1)
14. Paws7297 - Voted Moon lit tears (4), Changed to No Vote, Voted Moon lit tears (5), Changed to No Vote,
15. Zeel1
16. Imarevenant
17. Rebelliousangel
18. Gabbo
19. Jman2k3
20. Olivier le Fou
21. Bluestar - Voted Paws7297 (1), Changed to No Vote, Voted Astil (2), Changed to No Vote
22. Smartbomb - Voted Destiny (4), Changed to No Vote, Changed to Destiny (4), Changed to No Vote,
23. Destiny - Voted Moon lit tears (4), Changed to BHK1978 (2), Changed to No Vote,
24. iMac
25. SuperOwens
26. petrija - Voted Astil (3)
27. Kobe1724 - Voted Moon lit tears (4), Changed to Astil (4)
28. The Two
29. MichiganHero
30. Antithesis - Voted Moon lit tears (6), Changed to Destiny (1), Changed to No Vote, Changed to Astil (5)
31. Inadvertant
32. Teh Showtime - Voted Moon lit tears (3), Changed to No Vote,
33. hellshock70 - Voted Kobe1724 (1), Changed to Destiny (3), Changed to Astil (5)
34. Bak42
35. supermareo
Final Vote Count
Antithesis: 1 (Comradebot)
Max Peck: 1 (Astil)
Astil: 6 (Max Peck, petrija, hellshock70, Kobe1724, Antithesis, Jaded)
BHK1978: 1 (Moon lit tears)
Zeel1: 1 (BHK1978)
It is Day 1. With 35 players remaining, it takes 18 to lynch. You have until Wednesday 21st July, 5:00 AM BST (12am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.
Day 2
1. mjdgoldeneye
2. Midnightnick
3. Comradebot - Voted Bak42 (4), Changed to No Vote, Voted Tha Black Phenom (1),
4. Jaded - Voted Bak42 (11),
5. The Shape - Voted Bak42 (15),
6. BHK1978 - Voted Bak42 (7), Changed to No Vote, Changed to Bak42 (10),
7. Astil - Voted Bak42 (8),
8. Max Peck - Voted Bak42 (13),
9. Tha Black Phenom - Voted Bak42 (3), Changed to No Vote
11. masterded
12. Glotnot
13. Moon lit tears - Voted Bak42 (10), Changed to No Vote, Voted BHK1978 (1),
14. Paws7297 - Voted Bak42 (17),
15. Zeel1
16. Imarevenant
17. Rebelliousangel
18. Gabbo - Voted Bak42 (12),
19. Jman2k3 - Voted Bak42 (8),
20. Olivier le Fou - Voted Bak42 (1),
21. Bluestar - Voted Bak42 (9), Changed to Astil (1), Changed to Bak42 (11),
22. Smartbomb - Voted Antithesis (1),
23. Destiny - Voted Bak42 (6),
24. iMac
25. SuperOwens - Voted Bak42 (14),
27. Kobe1724 - Voted Bak42 (9),
28. The Two
29. MichiganHero - Voted Bak42 (16),
30. Antithesis - Voted Bak42 (2),
31. Inadvertant
32. Teh Showtime
33. hellshock70 - Voted Bak42 (12),
34. Bak42
35. supermareo - Voted Bak42 (5),
Final Vote Count
Antithesis: 1 (SmartBomb)
Bak42: 17 (Olivier le Fou, Antithesis, supermareo, Destiny, Jman2k3, Jaded, hellshock70, Astil, Kobe1724, BHK1978, BlueStar, Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, MichiganHero, Paws7297)
Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Comradebot)
BHK1978: 1 (Moon lit tears)
It is Day 2. With 33 players remaining, it takes 17 to lynch. You have until Saturday 24th July, 1:00pm BST (8am EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.
Discuss.
I realize these typically have been a bit of a waste, but I figure they won't hurt our chances of nailing somebody, and ii should have better chances this time around, seeing as how rushed the Bak mislynch was.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 09:46 PM
/nod
Change Vote: Matt Engarde
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!
Teh_Showtime
07-24-2010, 09:46 PM
How many votes is that?
Seems like enough pressure to warrant more defense imo
Astil
07-24-2010, 09:47 PM
MH is scum.
Calling it right here.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 09:47 PM
Vote Count:
masterded: 8 (Midnightnick, Zeel1, The Two, Astil, Inadvertant, Glotnot, Tha Black Phenom, Paws7279)
It is Day 3. With 30 players remaining, it takes 16 to lynch. You have until Monday 26th July, 10:00pm BST (5pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.
Astil
07-24-2010, 09:49 PM
L/2
Interesting how many people "Forgot" to put there votes on while pushing the town towards this lynch.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 09:50 PM
MH is scum.
Calling it right here.
Well, he did vote like literally two minutes after The Shape, so it being a coordinated speedlynch does seem possible.
Seems a little too... obvious, though, to be doing it like that, on D2. You'd like to spread your votes out a little more than that, especially so early.
But MH is still learning how to play as scum, so...
Tha Black Phenom
07-24-2010, 09:51 PM
Well, he did vote like literally two minutes after The Shape, so it being a coordinated speedlynch does seem possible.
Seems a little too... obvious, though, to be doing it like that, on D2. You'd like to spread your votes out a little more than that, especially so early.
But MH is still learning how to play as scum, so...
That's if we assume they're in the same group.
Comradebot
07-24-2010, 09:54 PM
Okay folks, slow on down. Still plenty of daylight left, let's use it.
Astil, you also said "you're scum, I'm calling it" to me... but hey, I guess if you keep "calling it" in terms of who's scum, you'll be right eventually! :p
That said, I agree MH seems a bit on the suspicious side. Definetly one of those at the end of the bak lynch that just sorta popped in to rush it along. Doesn't necessarily mean he's scum, but it was eyebrow raise worthy.
Astil
07-24-2010, 09:54 PM
If you were going to speed lynch you'd use people who don't talk much, maybe don't have that great of a role.
/shrug
I just think he's scum.
Astil
07-24-2010, 09:56 PM
Okay folks, slow on down. Still plenty of daylight left, let's use it.
Astil, you also said "you're scum, I'm calling it" to me... but hey, I guess if you keep "calling it" in terms of who's scum, you'll be right eventually! :p
That said, I agree MH seems a bit on the suspicious side. Definetly one of those at the end of the bak lynch that just sorta popped in to rush it along. Doesn't necessarily mean he's scum, but it was eyebrow raise worthy.
I could be 2 for 2 :p
Yeah, so I'm a bit more "cally" this game. I'll stop.
"I think MH deserves signifigant consideration as a possible scum candidate"
Comradebot
07-24-2010, 09:59 PM
I could be 2 for 2 :p
Yeah, so I'm a bit more "cally" this game. I'll stop.
"I think MH deserves signifigant consideration as a possible scum candidate"
Hey, if I'm scum and I managed to defend bak42 so adamantly and have him come up town... well, I'd just be overjoyed. Well then...
Vote: MichiganHero
Care to explain your vote in more detail?
Astil
07-24-2010, 10:00 PM
Change Vote: No Vote
I'll be on later. No need to rush this.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 10:03 PM
As far as potential speedlynchers go,
I'd say Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, and MichiganHero's votes seemed the most "rush"-like to me.
Kobe's vote also seemed off to me.
Vote: bak42
Not lynching by day 2 makes for a dull game.
I mean, that coming from someone who typically posts mountains of evidence against people before voting on them... :p
But then, she changed to Eayragt at the end of the D4 debacle, without another word about it. Maybe that's just how she handles the more sure lynches that she doesn't need to make a case about.
Dunno. Just comes across as off to me.
Might continue looking over the votes, and see if any others peak my interest.
Comradebot
07-24-2010, 10:04 PM
As far as potential speedlynchers go,
I'd say Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, and MichiganHero's votes seemed the most "rush"-like to me.
Kobe's vote also seemed off to me.
I mean, that coming from someone who typically posts mountains of evidence against people before voting on them... :p
But then, she changed to Eayragt at the end of the D4 debacle, without another word about it. Maybe that's just how she handles the more sure lynches that she doesn't need to make a case about.
Dunno. Just comes across as off to me.
Might continue looking over the votes, and see if any others peak my interest.
Guess what? One of those names is also one of the two I had in my mind as 80%ish likely scum. Interesting, no?
Astil
07-24-2010, 10:07 PM
Guess what? One of those names is also one of the two I had in my mind as 80%ish likely scum. Interesting, no?
If it's SO obvious, I think I'm with you.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 10:08 PM
Guess what? One of those names is also one of the two I had in my mind as 80%ish likely scum. Interesting, no?
Indeed, perhaps we're on the same wave here.
I considered adding Paws to that list, but the hammers never seem as off to me as the ones that led up to it. I don't know, as scum, it's something you really want to avoid doing if you don't have to, and this early, with a scum result, they shouldn't have had to by any stretch.
Still, her vote did peak some people's interests - being willing to hammer someone she believed to be a doctor... and it is a pretty good point.
Jman2k3
07-24-2010, 10:09 PM
Well, I promised.
Blaine, Good Aligned Sexual Tyrannosaur
(Predator)
I don't have time to bleed. Ergo, I'm bulletproof.
I don't believe this. He's a sexual Tyrannosaurus not a what you have.
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Comradebot
07-24-2010, 10:11 PM
If it's SO obvious, I think I'm with you.
Actually...
Huh. Never even thought.
Okay, we were on different wavelengths, but I gotcha and it's a solid point.
No, I just... think someone might be pulling their own strings (of evil) today.
Tha Black Phenom
07-24-2010, 10:15 PM
As far as potential speedlynchers go,
I'd say Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, and MichiganHero's votes seemed the most "rush"-like to me.
Kobe's vote also seemed off to me.
I mean, that coming from someone who typically posts mountains of evidence against people before voting on them... :p
But then, she changed to Eayragt at the end of the D4 debacle, without another word about it. Maybe that's just how she handles the more sure lynches that she doesn't need to make a case about.
Dunno. Just comes across as off to me.
Might continue looking over the votes, and see if any others peak my interest.
Aye, I've been mulling over her for a while. Hasn't responded to any of my slight finger-pointing.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 10:26 PM
I feel Mded should hang today, but I fully support looking at the Kobe's or the MichiganHero's, or whoever else people want to hear from before that happens. I'd like to get as much out of this phase as we can, provided it doesn't lead to a split vote, or something powerful being outed.
Zeel1
07-24-2010, 11:11 PM
I feel Mded should hang today, but I fully support looking at the Kobe's or the MichiganHero's, or whoever else people want to hear from before that happens. I'd like to get as much out of this phase as we can, provided it doesn't lead to a split vote, or something powerful being outed.
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BHK1978
07-24-2010, 11:20 PM
If it's SO obvious, I think I'm with you.
I have already said this once and said the reason why I think he is Scum as well. And yes Jaded is still jumping out at me, just for the simple fact Jaded seems to post more when town and less so when Scum. But that is just my opinion and I was wrong about MLT.
Inadvertant
07-24-2010, 11:20 PM
I feel Mded should hang today, but I fully support looking at the Kobe's or the MichiganHero's, or whoever else people want to hear from before that happens. I'd like to get as much out of this phase as we can, provided it doesn't lead to a split vote, or something powerful being outed.
Agreed
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And Lol'd
I vote we attempt to track scum in the direction of the people who voted in quick succession on Bak.
Also, out for the night; got things to tend to. Will be on tomorrow at some point.
Antithesis
07-24-2010, 11:41 PM
Anyone seen OLF?
Still would like to hear from him.
Olivier le Fou
07-24-2010, 11:45 PM
A Result as specific as "Vampire Cult" makes me pretty certain that Midnightnick is telling the truth. You can't get that precise and just be making it up. That'd be suicide. I'll definitely be putting my vote down, after we've put more of the phase time to good use.
And I still haven't figured out whether or not I'm Paranoid, Insane, or Random... But for what it's worth, MichiganHero came up "Not Good Aligned", which is effectively what Bak42 came up, as well. And considering Bak42 ended up being Good Aligned... I don't know. We'll hopefully find out, soon.
Though I'm really hoping I turn out to be Insane.
At least that way, I can be useful, once I get things figured out.
Until then, I'm just the guy kicking doors in. I think.
:cool:
Olivier le Fou
07-24-2010, 11:45 PM
Anyone seen OLF?
Still would like to hear from him.
Haha, Hey.
Eerie Timing, right?
Antithesis
07-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Haha, Hey.
Eerie Timing, right?
Thats like Spooky. :D
Anything to share?
Olivier le Fou
07-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Thats like Spooky. :D
Anything to share?
Yeah.
That post above the 'eerie timing' one.
Antithesis
07-24-2010, 11:48 PM
Thats like Spooky. :D
Anything to share?
NM I scrolled up.
Its odd though, given that you could be paranoid, why didn't scum roleblock you?
Olivier le Fou
07-24-2010, 11:50 PM
NM I scrolled up.
Its odd though, given that you could be paranoid, why didn't scum roleblock you?
I kind of ask the same thing, because if I turn out to be Insane, it would take me longer to figure it out if I'm kept under tabs by being role-blocked...
But maybe they think I'm Paranoid, and will yield that result on everyone? Who knows.
But no, you're right, I wasn't role-blocked last night, and did receive results.
Antithesis
07-24-2010, 11:57 PM
Night 1.
***********************
The man looked around to see if the hallway was clear before he went inside. He started the timer on his watch, and began to sing as he entered the room, 'Would you like to swing on a star, carry moonbeams home in a jar...'
***********************
There was a tapping on the door. 'Who is it?', but no reply came. A quick look through the eye-hole didn't reveal anyone standing there. Cautiously she opened the door... 'Awww, how cute!'
***********************
He sat bolt upright in bed. He was sure someone was in his room. Peering through the darkness he couldn't see where they were. Suddenly he saw a figure slip out from the shadows but it was too late to for him to react.
The scream echoed throughout the hotel.
***********************
Bracing himself he kicked the door open and charged in. 'Damn, no-one home'. He began a search of the room looking for clues until he came across something interesting. 'Gotcha'.
***********************
He had his hand firmly clasped on his weapon as he crept into the room, knowing his foe was a dangerous one. But looking around the room it was obvious this wasn't the person he was looking for.
***********************
Sensing danger he was hurrying back to his hotel room, peering around each corner for potential killers as he went. He only had one more hallway to go before he made it back to the safety of his room, but someone had other ideas as their blades plunged into his back.
***********************
She was walking through the hallway to her room when a man approached her. 'Madam, you are very beautiful, but your hair needs a little something extra to make you the very definition of beauty. Come to my room and I'll work on it throughout the night, if need be, and I'll transform you into such a vision that people will need to avert their eyes from such blinding beauty.'.
***********************
The man prepared himself as he knew this was a dangerous situation he was in. He opened the door to set off for the task ahead, but was greeted by a man stood outside his room. 'Hey man, what you doin' standing out here?'.
The man only grinned, his wild eyes filled with increasing rage. In the blink of an eye he tossed a liquid forwards, burning the face off his victim.
***********************
Arrows is dead, he was Happy Harry Hard On, Good Aligned Pirate Radio DJ
petrija is dead, she was Axel Foley, Good Aligned Streetwise Cop
Night 2
***********************
'Room service'.
'I did not order any room service', said a voice from inside.
'This is the room number I was given.'.
The door swung open, 'I did not order any room service, you have made a mistake.'.
A shiver ran down the man's spine, 'Ah, ummm, I'm terribly sorry to have disturbed you, sir', as he backed away from the door and hurried away.
***********************
The man entered the room and found his target preparing for the night ahead. She looked up, 'What are y...'
'Sh!'
'But...'
'Sh!'
'How...'
'Knock knock'
'Who's there?”
'Sh!'
The man pointed a device at the woman and fired, freezing her on the spot. 'It's frickin' freezing in here.'.
***********************
*knock knock* No reply. *knock knock* 'Police, open up.'. Still no reply. 'Guess we'll have to do this the old fashioned way', but the door opened before he could kick it in. 'Damn, I love doing that too. Anyway, come out where I can see you, I need you to answer some questions.'.
***********************
He made sure the coast was clear before entering the room. 'Too easy', he chuckled to himself as he poured a liquid over his soon to be dissolved victim.
***********************
The man was preparing for the task at hand when there was a knock at the door. 'Good evening, sir. I couldn't help but notice that it would appear you're losing your hair, but I can assure that with my expertise I could transform it to make you appear ten years younger. Would you be interested in my services?'.
'Errrr, ok, sure.'.
***********************
This made for a nice change as he hadn't had any time-off in a while, he'd had a few drinks at the bar and decided to have an early night. Little did he realise someone was waiting for him to return to his room. As he opened the door they grabbed him by the throat and were about to plunge their blades into his chest, when out of nowhere a masked figure appeared and fought off the attacker.
***********************
There was a knock on the door. 'What do you want?', but there was no reply. Cautiously he opened the door... 'Awww, aren't you just the cutest little thing!'.
***********************
The figure had been waiting in the shadows for it's victim to fall sound asleep, and now the time had come.
The scream echoed throughout the hotel.
***********************
The man banged on the door, 'Come on, I know you're in there!'. He gripped his weapon tightly as the door opened... 'Oh, pardon me, my mistake.'.
***********************
The Shape is dead, he was Dr Evil, Corleone Family Aligned Evil Genius.
moon lit tears is dead, she was Barb Wire, Good Aligned Bounty Hunter.
The acid is the kill on MLT. Note MLT is a female character.
Look how he runs in and says "to easy" on his "victim"
MLT was frozen first and then killed with Acid.
The blades guy (SK?) attacks someone but it was fought off by a protector.
That leaves the scream as the only other kill.
So N1 kills were screams and Blades
N2 kills SCreams and Acid
For all I know, N1, the acid attack was on me. It failed, again, because I aint got time to bleed or melt. Just a theory though.
Either way, its entirely possible that the Vampire cult isn't a cult, its a mafia group with a kill. Assuming MNN's result is correct that is.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:01 AM
The acid is the kill on MLT. Note MLT is a female character.
Look how he runs in and says "to easy" on his "victim"
MLT was frozen first and then killed with Acid.
The blades guy (SK?) attacks someone but it was fought off by a protector.
That leaves the scream as the only other kill.
So N1 kills were screams and Blades
N2 kills SCreams and Acid
For all I know, N1, the acid attack was on me. It failed, again, because I aint got time to bleed or melt. Just a theory though.
Either way, its entirely possible that the Vampire cult isn't a cult, its a mafia group with a kill. Assuming MNN's result is correct that is.
If MLT was frozen first, could be a role block. Since she said she may have been blocked N1 as well... maybe thats the scum blocker.
Astil and MJ, assuming they are being honest... given the suspicion on them... townie blocks?
Zeel1
07-25-2010, 12:03 AM
If MLT was frozen first, could be a role block. Since she said she may have been blocked N1 as well... maybe thats the scum blocker.
Astil and MJ, assuming they are being honest... given the suspicion on them... townie blocks?
MLT was apparently a vig. Could be that they picked up her hints, figured that out, and decided to keep her from killing any of them.
Which may also explain the rather low kill count so far.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:05 AM
MLT was apparently a vig. Could be that they picked up her hints, figured that out, and decided to keep her from killing any of them.
Which may also explain the rather low kill count so far.
A Vig?
She said she couldn't get to gabbo N1.
Assumed a roleblock but maybe Gabbo has a protector in his pocket...
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:09 AM
The acid is the kill on MLT. Note MLT is a female character.
Look how he runs in and says "to easy" on his "victim"
MLT was frozen first and then killed with Acid.
The blades guy (SK?) attacks someone but it was fought off by a protector.
That leaves the scream as the only other kill.
So N1 kills were screams and Blades
N2 kills SCreams and Acid
For all I know, N1, the acid attack was on me. It failed, again, because I aint got time to bleed or melt. Just a theory though.
Either way, its entirely possible that the Vampire cult isn't a cult, its a mafia group with a kill. Assuming MNN's result is correct that is.
If I'm right... the scream is the vampire cult kill. They killed Arrows N1, killed Shape N2 (dueling scum groups)
Blades is the SK. Killed Petrija N1, Blocked/met a protector N2
Acid is the Corleone kill. For some reason didn't drop their target N1, killed MLT N2.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:10 AM
If I'm right... the scream is the vampire cult kill. They killed Arrows N1, killed Shape N2 (dueling scum groups)
Blades is the SK. Killed Petrija N1, Blocked/met a protector N2
Acid is the Corleone kill. For some reason didn't drop their target N1, killed MLT N2.
Vampire groups has a vet or two in it.
I'm kind of buying the Mded thing more now.
hellshock70
07-25-2010, 12:12 AM
The acid is the kill on MLT. Note MLT is a female character.
Look how he runs in and says "to easy" on his "victim"
MLT was frozen first and then killed with Acid.
The blades guy (SK?) attacks someone but it was fought off by a protector.
That leaves the scream as the only other kill.
So N1 kills were screams and Blades
N2 kills SCreams and Acid
For all I know, N1, the acid attack was on me. It failed, again, because I aint got time to bleed or melt. Just a theory though.
Either way, its entirely possible that the Vampire cult isn't a cult, its a mafia group with a kill. Assuming MNN's result is correct that is.
If you were hit by acid then you are one ugly mofo and possibly the guy that room service encountered.
If its not you then the guy from night one that was burned by acid is still possibly the guy room service saw.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:14 AM
Then again that might could be Astil getting frozen... he did claim a female character, though he said he didn't pick up anything from the write up...
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:17 AM
If you were hit by acid then you are one ugly mofo and possibly the guy that room service encountered.
If its not you then the guy from night one that was burned by acid is still possibly the guy room service saw.
If there really are Vampires and Jar Jar in the game, I am probably not the only ugly mofo.
Also didn't zeel say he was basically unkillable?
I dunno...
I should be completely open here. My immunity to harm is limited. I assumed I'd get notification if I was attacked, at least.. but that assumption could be incorrect.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:20 AM
MJ you may have been blocked.
Is your character male or female?
Also
Vote: Michigan hero Character male or female.. go out at night? In any of the write ups?
Olivier le Fou
07-25-2010, 12:22 AM
MJ you may have been blocked.
Is your character male or female?
Also
Vote: Michigan hero Character male or female.. go out at night? In any of the write ups?
Haha, just another reminder before this potentially picks up too much steam...
I did investigate MichiganHero.
Did get the same result on him, that I got on Bak.
Just so that's out of the way.
If I'm Insane, he's town. If I'm Random or Paranoid? We won't know, until he's dead, or he tells us.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 12:24 AM
Haha, just another reminder before this potentially picks up too much steam...
I did investigate MichiganHero.
Did get the same result on him, that I got on Bak.
Just so that's out of the way.
If I'm Insane, he's town. If I'm Random or Paranoid? We won't know, until he's dead, or he tells us.
No need to explain Olivier, I think people would be looking into him because of the way he voted on BAK during the last day phase anyway. It was one of those short Jman like posts.:D
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:25 AM
Haha, just another reminder before this potentially picks up too much steam...
I did investigate MichiganHero.
Did get the same result on him, that I got on Bak.
Just so that's out of the way.
If I'm Insane, he's town. If I'm Random or Paranoid? We won't know, until he's dead, or he tells us.
Ya know, I just realized you could have determined what you are just be targetting Astil...
hellshock70
07-25-2010, 12:26 AM
If I'm right... the scream is the vampire cult kill. They killed Arrows N1, killed Shape N2 (dueling scum groups)
Blades is the SK. Killed Petrija N1, Blocked/met a protector N2
Acid is the Corleone kill. For some reason didn't drop their target N1, killed MLT N2.
A Vig?
She said she couldn't get to gabbo N1.
Assumed a roleblock but maybe Gabbo has a protector in his pocket...
Might be a HUGE stretch.
Gobble, gobble. Maybe Gabbo, Gabbo .......... Protecting a nice thanksgiving turkey. :p
Sorry, alcohol + Gabbo = gobble = turkey = what?
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 12:27 AM
Might be a HUGE stretch.
Gobble, gobble. Maybe Gabbo, Gabbo .......... Protecting a nice thanksgiving turkey. :p
Sorry, alcohol + Gabbo = gobble = turkey = what?
Well 9 times out of 10 Gabbo is Scum so it is probably not that much of a stretch.:D
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:28 AM
Might be a HUGE stretch.
Gobble, gobble. Maybe Gabbo, Gabbo .......... Protecting a nice thanksgiving turkey. :p
Sorry, alcohol + Gabbo = gobble = turkey = what?
Well, Bak claimed a protector, he came up good aligned. Can't be too many more townie protectors running around.
Thats all assuming a lot though.
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 12:30 AM
Well, Bak claimed a protector, he came up good aligned. Can't be too many more townie protectors running around.
Thats all assuming a lot though.
I figure MLT died simply because of that. You obviously had one protector watching her bak (get it?), and in all likelihood any other protectors out there probably already have other folks in mind. So with the guy protecting her dead... seemed unlikely someone else would take his spot, leaving MLT open to kill.
Sadness.
mjdgoldeneye
07-25-2010, 12:42 AM
If MLT was frozen first, could be a role block. Since she said she may have been blocked N1 as well... maybe thats the scum blocker.
Astil and MJ, assuming they are being honest... given the suspicion on them... townie blocks?
Me failing might just be me, but I don't know yet.
Also, who got a result on M-Ded? Someone did, right? Also, why the pressure on MH?
I SWEAR I will be less useless in a phase or two (if I'm kept alive).
Zeel1
07-25-2010, 12:43 AM
Me failing might just be me, but I don't know yet.
Also, who got a result on M-Ded? Someone did, right? Also, why the pressure on MH?
I SWEAR I will be less useless in a phase or two (if I'm kept alive).
1. Midnightnick, got a Vampire Cult Aligned result on Mded.
2. Michigan was one of several people that seemed to rush the Bak lynch, so he's up there on a few people's scum lists.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 12:52 AM
Me failing might just be me, but I don't know yet.
Also, who got a result on M-Ded? Someone did, right? Also, why the pressure on MH?
I SWEAR I will be less useless in a phase or two (if I'm kept alive).
I love that you are playing the I don't know what the hell is going on schtick again.:D
mjdgoldeneye
07-25-2010, 12:54 AM
1. Midnightnick, got a Vampire Cult Aligned result on Mded.
2. Michigan was one of several people that seemed to rush the Bak lynch, so he's up there on a few people's scum lists.
1. That's what his result said? That's awfully damning.
Vote: masterded
2. Noted.
mjdgoldeneye
07-25-2010, 12:56 AM
I love that you are playing the I don't know what the hell is going on schtick again.:D
It's completely legitimate. It always is. It's also always at the beginnings of games with themes I'm unfamiliar with or where there's a million zillion people. Before, I'd make a fool out of myself thinking I knew what was going on when I clearly didn't. Now I'm using my discretion and making sure I don't say anything ridiculous.
The fact that people think it's some kind of work just shows that some people actually think I'm a good enough player to do that. :D
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 01:00 AM
It's completely legitimate. It always is. It's also always at the beginnings of games with themes I'm unfamiliar with or where there's a million zillion people. Before, I'd make a fool out of myself thinking I knew what was going on when I clearly didn't. Now I'm using my discretion and making sure I don't say anything ridiculous.
The fact that people think it's some kind of work just shows that some people actually think I'm a good enough player to do that. :D
I think you are one of the best, which is why I find the need to point it out all of the time.
Imarevenant
07-25-2010, 01:32 AM
Because if he was town and came up Vampire Cult aligned and they were a legit group? That'd totally blow up for that group if they were skirting by unnoticed until that moment.
Of course it might not be a legit group you COULD argue, but the odds of that are slim to none.
You seem pretty adamant on defending him between that and saying he could be a miller.
I've got my eye on you.
/nod
With a result that specific I'm inclined your on the up and up. Could be a scum role cop playing us, but I've felt Good vibes from you thus far into the game.
I don't believe this. He's a sexual Tyrannosaurus not a what you have.
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Interesting. But could just be that Taker misremembered you know.
NM I scrolled up.
Its odd though, given that you could be paranoid, why didn't scum roleblock you?
Maybe as the only outed investigator scum were worried about a watcher seeing them around him. /shrug
Jaded
07-25-2010, 01:49 AM
I am D.Q. Quintano, Self Aligned Hertz Hunter
I have to find Mr. Smith
I have to kill Karl Hertz
Quintano wParaphrasing but my PM said "You target someone. You learn if they are Mr. Smith. Then the next night you may try to kill Karl Hertz." I glossed over the different names and well ... didn't even realize it was a different name.
My win isfor Karl to be dead.
To hunt Karl I need Mr. Smith
And
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit ! This whole thing was for nothing. /Headdesk.
Astil, anything changed about your role since this post?
Crychon
07-25-2010, 01:55 AM
I'll throw one of these out before I have to head to bed:
Vote Count:
masterded: 8 (Midnightnick, Zeel1, The Two, Inadvertant, Glotnot, Tha Black Phenom, Paws7297, mjdgoldeneye)
MichiganHero: 2 (Comradebot, Antithesis)
It is Day 3. With 30 players remaining, it takes 16 to lynch. You have until Monday 26th July, 10:00pm BST (5pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.
SmartBomb
07-25-2010, 02:30 AM
Anyone want anymore questions at me?
Vote: MichiganHero
Pressure pressure pressure.
Oh, and read the thread. Vampire Cult... not really much to defend yourself from, when the failed investigator is already outted and you didn't claim miller.
I'm not the failed ability at the first bit of the writeup. Doesn't fit.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 02:36 AM
Anyone want anymore questions at me?
Yeah why is it that I do not understand anything that you post?:D
SmartBomb
07-25-2010, 02:45 AM
Because
I'm like that.
So is my role.
:p
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 02:49 AM
Because
I'm like that.
So is my role.
:p
Okay cool, I just did not remember you posting so oddly in the last game I was in with you.
SmartBomb
07-25-2010, 02:50 AM
That was because I was scum.
:p
Trying to stay under the radar. Helped that no-one's seen my posting style.
MichiganHero
07-25-2010, 03:41 AM
MH is scum.
Calling it right here.
Well, he did vote like literally two minutes after The Shape, so it being a coordinated speedlynch does seem possible.
Seems a little too... obvious, though, to be doing it like that, on D2. You'd like to spread your votes out a little more than that, especially so early.
But MH is still learning how to play as scum, so...
Okay folks, slow on down. Still plenty of daylight left, let's use it.
Astil, you also said "you're scum, I'm calling it" to me... but hey, I guess if you keep "calling it" in terms of who's scum, you'll be right eventually! :p
That said, I agree MH seems a bit on the suspicious side. Definetly one of those at the end of the bak lynch that just sorta popped in to rush it along. Doesn't necessarily mean he's scum, but it was eyebrow raise worthy.
@all three. Put away any fears about me for this game. I came Good throught and through.
Hey, if I'm scum and I managed to defend bak42 so adamantly and have him come up town... well, I'd just be overjoyed. Well then...
Vote: MichiganHero
Care to explain your vote in more detail?
The more I read of bak's claim, it didn't make sense to me. A protecter who claimed miller as well. 'Twas a bit fishy to me.
A Result as specific as "Vampire Cult" makes me pretty certain that Midnightnick is telling the truth. You can't get that precise and just be making it up. That'd be suicide. I'll definitely be putting my vote down, after we've put more of the phase time to good use.
And I still haven't figured out whether or not I'm Paranoid, Insane, or Random... But for what it's worth, MichiganHero came up "Not Good Aligned", which is effectively what Bak42 came up, as well. And considering Bak42 ended up being Good Aligned... I don't know. We'll hopefully find out, soon.
Though I'm really hoping I turn out to be Insane.
At least that way, I can be useful, once I get things figured out.
Until then, I'm just the guy kicking doors in. I think.
:cool:
Well, you are Insane. However if you are, change the results. That may work.
MJ you may have been blocked.
Is your character male or female?
Also
Vote: Michigan hero Character male or female.. go out at night? In any of the write ups?
Female, can go out at night, haven't went out yet. For film reference I was in Aliens. And I can hide.
VOTE : Masterded
MNN has to be right with such a specific reveal. And the last thing we want is a cult. Ergo lynch you.
Jaded
07-25-2010, 03:53 AM
Don't finish this until astil answers my question, if you can help it, guys.
SmartBomb
07-25-2010, 04:27 AM
Careful guys.
I will be disappoint when I wake up tomorrow and find you've lynched him with an extra day.
....
Flicking back, did you notice that Astil specifically didn't mention ___'s name after he found him?
Destiny
07-25-2010, 05:28 AM
Like I said, I'm movig later today so will place my vote now on the person I think it would likely end up on anyway. Vote: masterded.
BlueStar
07-25-2010, 05:50 AM
Ugh...busy days and catching up. So masterded is the vampire cult leader, it seems.
I'll be around tomorrow a lot more. Let's make the most of this phase.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 05:58 AM
I'm all for making the most of the day phase and am pleased that people are following up on those who voted for bak42 at the end of the last day phase.
Gabbo
07-25-2010, 06:25 AM
At an internet cafe and time is about to expire so I'm skimming to catch up and without notes I'm all over the place. Here goes.
I checked out Masterded last night?
Check it, Vampire Cult aligned.
Now of course, he could be a recruit if it was a recruit that first night, but hey.
Maybe we got the Supreme Vamp right here?
This is a vote I can sink my teeth into.
Vote: Masterded
Interesting.
...
Its told you his exact alignment?
OLF didn't get that, from what I recall...
OLF didn't get anything bar a dead protector, from what I recall...
SHape being so out front, and that role title. Could ha have been the Don?
Maybe he felt like he had investigation immunity so was okay with being on a mislynch early.
I dunno, I don't see it being Corleone aligned if Dr. Evil was Don. It has to be Sonny (was that Al Pacino's character?) or Vito.
vote: masterded
Honestly, I was gonna jump into the thread after Night phase and vote Shape. I was damn near positive he was scum, just knew it. I'll even proove it after the game.
That said, I had a back-up plan...
But it seems masterded has some explaining to do, so I'll be more than happy to see how that unfolds :cool:
Yeah, but you're the master of stating things with hindsight so kudos on nothing.
I'd say Gabbo, Max Peck, SuperOwens, The Shape, and MichiganHero's votes seemed the most "rush"-like to me.
Kobe's vote also seemed off to me.
To be fair, I had to leave then and all the votes piled on after me. Nothing had happened all afternoon, I waited as long as I could before I had to go. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and nothing satisfied my concerns so I voted.
However Michigan Hero and Paws both seem off to me this game, I have notes on Paws but can't get to them at the minute. She's very scummy though.
Not fully caught up but I have 60 seconds left. ARGHHH
Destiny
07-25-2010, 06:30 AM
Gabbo, I understand how frustrating it can be when you have times Internet access in a public location.
Zeel1
07-25-2010, 06:32 AM
Yeah, I can feel his pain there. During the Futurama game, I had to resort to going to the library and using their computers to post. They only allowed you on for an hour at a time. :(
Off to play american football. Will leave this behind...
Vote: Mastered
Zeel1
07-25-2010, 06:47 AM
iMac's vote makes L-5, I'd slow it down for now.
Undertaker666
07-25-2010, 06:51 AM
Vote Count:
masterded: 11 (Midnightnick, Zeel1, The Two, Inadvertant, Glotnot, Tha Black Phenom, Paws7297, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero, Gabbo, iMac)
MichiganHero: 3 (Comradebot, Antithesis, SmartBomb)
It is Day 3. With 30 players remaining, it takes 16 to lynch. You have until Monday 26th July, 10:00pm BST (5pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.
Zeel1
07-25-2010, 06:53 AM
Psst, Taker, Smart's vote was on Michigan. :p
Undertaker666
07-25-2010, 06:58 AM
Psst, Taker, Smart's vote was on Michigan. :p
Are you claiming I have made a mistake?! Such a thing would never happen... ;)
SuperOwens
07-25-2010, 07:37 AM
Well I for one did not see The Shape as scum this game so good call on who offed him.
Corleone Family is what we are dealing with, it must a group of bad guys for various movies and genres. Because that is the only way we would be dealing with having Dr. Evil in the Corleone family. So who is the Don? Vito, Sonny, Michael, or Vincent. I guess it would hardly matter but I am just wondering who UT decided to put in this game.
Good call? Not really as it was scum that killed him
Something doesn't add up though...
N1 there is the scream, the blades, and the "acid.. two dead.
Last night there is that and more, but still just two dead...
Scream could be recruitment or could be kills? A cult normally has a kill doesnt it. It could even be both. One a kill one a recruitment.
Don’t go out at night (locked up). When visited 3 things can happen normal (what ever the person was there to do), Freed (become a protector to the person who frees me), and Scare (blocks their ability from affecting me).
Today is the Aquatennial and right behind my building is the Mississippi river. Which means ski jumps and such are going on and I have to make sure people don’t or park behind the building meaning I will be away from my desk a lot. Seeing as behind my work is a giant car and bike path, yet our policy says people can only pass through and not stay. Saying this now so when people go look he left they know why.
Okay, so if recruitment was going on. How long would it take? Maybe it takes a while for the vampire to come out. Looking at the way Ded has set out his claim, he could easily have been visited by a vampire who did his thing and Ded is just waiting to come out, but still stuck in jail.
Or It could just be a bs claim
@all three. Put away any fears about me for this game. I came Good throught and through.
The more I read of bak's claim, it didn't make sense to me. A protecter who claimed miller as well. 'Twas a bit fishy to me.
He never claimed Miller
I think MNN has Masterded in his pocket at the mo. Cant see much happening for that lynch not to go through. Bit wary of Anti and his weird sounding dinosaur claim as well.
Glotnot
07-25-2010, 07:42 AM
Acid is the Corleone kill. For some reason didn't drop their target N1, killed MLT N2.
No, it did, actually....
"The man prepared himself as he knew this was a dangerous situation he was in. He opened the door to set off for the task ahead, but was greeted by a man stood outside his room. 'Hey man, what you doin' standing out here?'.
The man only grinned, his wild eyes filled with increasing rage. In the blink of an eye he tossed a liquid forwards, burning the face off his victim."
That's Axel Foley dying.
MichiganHero
07-25-2010, 07:46 AM
Good call? Not really as it was scum that killed him
Scream could be recruitment or could be kills? A cult normally has a kill doesnt it. It could even be both. One a kill one a recruitment.
Okay, so if recruitment was going on. How long would it take? Maybe it takes a while for the vampire to come out. Looking at the way Ded has set out his claim, he could easily have been visited by a vampire who did his thing and Ded is just waiting to come out, but still stuck in jail.
Or It could just be a bs claim
He never claimed Miller
I think MNN has Masterded in his pocket at the mo. Cant see much happening for that lynch not to go through. Bit wary of Anti and his weird sounding dinosaur claim as well.
He didn't. Damn. I need to read better. Stupid life.
Glotnot
07-25-2010, 07:49 AM
Night 1 there was acid, a scream, and blades.
Night 1 shows us that the acid actually does kill the same night, because that's the only "death scene" that tells us who the target is.
Happy Harry could be either the scream or the blades....I'm going with blades.
Which does leave scream to be a vampire recruit. Or something else.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 08:30 AM
If we are assuming that the scream signifies a vampire recruit, then would Midnightnick's results show alignments at the start of the night phase he investigates or the alignmet once the night phase is over?
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 08:31 AM
Night 1 there was acid, a scream, and blades.
Night 1 shows us that the acid actually does kill the same night, because that's the only "death scene" that tells us who the target is.
Happy Harry could be either the scream or the blades....I'm going with blades.
Which does leave scream to be a vampire recruit. Or something else.
Agreed. Scream doesn't read as a kill. My rule for movies/TV: no body, no death. We're not seeing a dead body in that part of the write-up, so I'm saying no death. Maybe undeath.
Acid and blades=death... but I don't think the acid is the Corleone's kill. Seems clear to me Dr. Evil killed MLT (who else talks like that?!) with a freeze gun, or... whatever. Starting to think the acid killer might be a SK. He seems to have a little more emotion in it than your average hitman.
Midnightnick
07-25-2010, 08:32 AM
If we are assuming that the scream signifies a vampire recruit, then would Midnightnick's results show alignments at the start of the night phase he investigates or the alignmet once the night phase is over?
That's a good question.
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 08:33 AM
If we are assuming that the scream signifies a vampire recruit, then would Midnightnick's results show alignments at the start of the night phase he investigates or the alignmet once the night phase is over?
Probably comes down to mod discretion of what "happened first". Though my gut instinct says the investigation happens first, as it'd be hardly fair to be investigated and come up scum the exact same night you're recruited. Nothing like be told you're scum by an investigator before you've even recieved a PM telling you you're now scum.
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 08:33 AM
Probably comes down to mod discretion of what "happened first". Though my gut instinct says the investigation happens first, as it'd be hardly fair to be investigated and come up scum the exact same night you're recruited. Nothing like being told you're scum by an investigator before you've even recieved a PM telling you you're now scum.
Bah, stupid no editting.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 08:34 AM
I believe I've seen mods handle this sort of situation differently depending on the exact set up of the investigative role.
SuperOwens
07-25-2010, 08:36 AM
I refuse to believe Masterded could be Sloth.
How could anybody resist the temptation to write "Hey, you guys!" as there first post?
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 08:37 AM
I believe I've seen mods handle this sort of situation differently depending on the exact set up of the investigative role.
Like I said, it's a mod discretion sorta thing. I just think that, if I ran a game with a Cult, I wouldn't put players in a position like that. Clearly, Taker can run things however he wants.
Still, something to keep in mind MNN (and OLF). Just because someone looked clean last night may mean, with a Cult running around, that maybe all isn't well with that person.
Midnightnick
07-25-2010, 08:37 AM
I believe I've seen mods handle this sort of situation differently depending on the exact set up of the investigative role.
Regardless, he's still a Vamp.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 08:39 AM
Yes, and at the moment that's the reason why my vote's on masterded. It's worth bearing in mind, that if Comradebot's method is the same one that is being used in this game, then we may have found the cult leader.
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 08:40 AM
Regardless, he's still a Vamp.
Yeah, that situation is a just a theoretical one to consider in the future.
Right now, as far as I'm concerned Mr. Ded is dead to rights.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 08:44 AM
By the way, if anybody is wondering why I am online when I said I was moving today, I have free wi-fi on my coach.
Midnightnick
07-25-2010, 08:47 AM
Yeah, that situation is a just a theoretical one to consider in the future.
Right now, as far as I'm concerned Mr. Ded is dead to rights.
More like ded to rights am I right?
Destiny
07-25-2010, 09:00 AM
Other than him outright lying about his ability, I'm strugglig to see how Midnightnick would receive false information in this scenario.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 09:16 AM
Between the write ups, MNN, and Mded's claim, Mded's lynch is probably the best way to go for info
I'd caution
1)Don't assume that seperate sections of write ups always me seperate scenes. Mods are always free to bend stuff
2) If there are different scum groups, someone from one group could always try to claim to be townie while serving up folks from the other group
Not saying thats the case, just saying its possible
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 09:19 AM
@all three. Put away any fears about me for this game. I came Good throught and through.
The more I read of bak's claim, it didn't make sense to me. A protecter who claimed miller as well. 'Twas a bit fishy to me.
Well, you are Insane. However if you are, change the results. That may work.
Female, can go out at night, haven't went out yet. For film reference I was in Aliens. And I can hide.
VOTE : Masterded
MNN has to be right with such a specific reveal. And the last thing we want is a cult. Ergo lynch you.
Acid... Aliens?
MichiganHero
07-25-2010, 09:23 AM
Acid... Aliens?
I am a human from Aliens. You know the folk who hid/fought the aliens.
BlueStar
07-25-2010, 09:23 AM
I'm all for making the most of the day phase and am pleased that people are following up on those who voted for bak42 at the end of the last day phase.
I voted on Bak. I didn't believe his claim and I had no reason to doubt OLF's investigation. Not following it on, would mean an outed investigator for nothing. Seemed the only direction to take.
Between the write ups, MNN, and Mded's claim, Mded's lynch is probably the best way to go for info
I'd caution
1)Don't assume that seperate sections of write ups always me seperate scenes. Mods are always free to bend stuff
2) If there are different scum groups, someone from one group could always try to claim to be townie while serving up folks from the other group
Not saying thats the case, just saying its possible
The limited info I have, could back this.
And /nods to Anti.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 09:27 AM
I am a human from Aliens. You know the folk who hid/fought the aliens.
Didn't say you were an Alien. Just wondering if there could be a link between acid and aliens.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 09:30 AM
I may give Aliens a watch this week in the hut for information, as I haven't seen it before.
MichiganHero
07-25-2010, 09:30 AM
Didn't say you were an Alien. Just wondering if there could be a link between acid and aliens.
Ah. I miss interpreted your statement.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 09:32 AM
On another note, I watched Catch Me If You Can last night and thought it was a great film. Frank's character would make a great hider role, or as a survivor who would be investigated as town.
Imarevenant
07-25-2010, 10:08 AM
Didn't say you were an Alien. Just wondering if there could be a link between acid and aliens.
The only thing is that for the Aliens their blood was acidic so they'd have to be hurt for the acid to be attributed to them. Normally they just brutally killed their prey no acid needed.
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 10:12 AM
The only thing is that for the Aliens their blood was acidic so they'd have to be hurt for the acid to be attributed to them. Normally they just brutally killed their prey no acid needed.
Not to mention the killer has eyes... which they don't... and throws the acid in their faces.
Possible there's a connection of some sort, but it's not a xenomorph alien running around throwing acid.
Heck, it's probably Reptile from Mortal Kombat!
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 10:29 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of how, in just about every Aliens movie, there is some scumbag who wants to use them as a weapon.
Hell, my character is from Predator, so I'm trying to keep an open mind here.
Comradebot
07-25-2010, 10:39 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of how, in just about every Aliens movie, there is some scumbag who wants to use them as a weapon.
Hell, my character is from Predator, so I'm trying to keep an open mind here.
Gonna laugh if there's a scum Paul Reiser running around.
Tha Black Phenom
07-25-2010, 11:26 AM
NM I scrolled up.
Its odd though, given that you could be paranoid, why didn't scum roleblock you?
It's almost a tradition. Has to be subverted sometime.
Don't finish this until astil answers my question, if you can help it, guys.
hmmmm. Keeping this post under tabs for some reason.
Gabbo, I understand how frustrating it can be when you have times Internet access in a public location.
Yeah, I can feel his pain there. During the Futurama game, I had to resort to going to the library and using their computers to post. They only allowed you on for an hour at a time. :(
I was on public connections while modding BOTH DBZ and Toy Story mafia! Sometimes felt like ripping my hair off.
If we are assuming that the scream signifies a vampire recruit, then would Midnightnick's results show alignments at the start of the night phase he investigates or the alignmet once the night phase is over?
I would think it would happen once it's over, like all at once. You send the recruit PM first, and then the result and all. All that would unfold at sunrise. Similar to when someone gets recruited and dies the same night, would be shown his updated role title(though I think some mods play it chronologically).
Destiny
07-25-2010, 12:40 PM
Thanks for that, Tha Black Phenom. Personally, I think I'd mod things the same way as you described, though that would make things more difficult for cults.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 12:47 PM
Its an old complaint of mine, but if there is a recruitment, it should be clear in the write up its a recruitment.
Kills are clear enough, some kind of weapon or attack.. mentions of pain, blood, etc.
The acid thing and the screams.. actually both seem dubious to some degree, so I won't complain if there are recruitments, because things could be similarly opaque.
The question I ask myself is, why are some things written about transparent, and others aren't. The mod sees the big picture....
Could be we are due for a 'big reveal' later on, or maybe UT is compensating for something now. A balance issue perhaps?
Destiny
07-25-2010, 01:33 PM
Well, I at first thought that the acid being thrown in the face was a recruitment, but if the cult is a group of vampires, then I doubt that now.
BlueStar
07-25-2010, 02:13 PM
Well, I at first thought that the acid being thrown in the face was a recruitment, but if the cult is a group of vampires, then I doubt that now.
Me too, unless it refers to the victim....
Destiny
07-25-2010, 02:36 PM
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that, unless you are using the word "victim" to describe one of those killed on the first night.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 03:02 PM
Good call? Not really as it was scum that killed him
Yes it was a good call even if it was Scum on Scum killing. One less bad guy we (I say we but I think you are Scum so maybe we is not the right word.) have to worry about.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 03:29 PM
As it's quite quiet this evening, and I don't like petty squabbles to be caused without reasons, I'd like to know who BHK1978 thinks SuperOwens is scum.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 04:07 PM
As it's quite quiet this evening, and I don't like petty squabbles to be caused without reasons, I'd like to know who BHK1978 thinks SuperOwens is scum.
I do not know that he is Scum, I think he is Scum. Big difference, and I have said before why I feel this way. It is because when he is town he is normally more vocal/active in the game. When he is Scum...not so much.
Could I be wrong?
Yes I could and it would not be the first or last time I was. I am just going with my gut on this one.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 04:28 PM
Fair enough, then. As activity levels are extremely low today, I'd like to now ask SuperOwens why he has not been as active as he has been in previous games.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 04:45 PM
And Destiny I just want to say that the thought you might be Scum has crossed my mind as well. Maybe your Scum team told you to post more so people do not go after you. (Hey I have to cover all of the bases here.)
Destiny
07-25-2010, 05:06 PM
I know you're relatively new here but if you view some old mafia threads from a few years ago you'll see that I was originally a very active player. After some criticism I suffered during the Catfish Creek game I've decided to become more active again.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 05:46 PM
I know you're relatively new here but if you view some old mafia threads from a few years ago you'll see that I was originally a very active player. After some criticism I suffered during the Catfish Creek game I've decided to become more active again.
You were very active when I first started to play here, and then you started to pull a Destiny in recent games.:D
And to get this back on topic, who do you think might be Scum (and no I will not get mad if you point the finger in my direction).
Jman2k3
07-25-2010, 06:04 PM
I refuse to believe Masterded could be Sloth.
How could anybody resist the temptation to write "Hey, you guys!" as there first post?
Lol right.
Regardless, he's still a Vamp.
Let's hope he isn't Blade.
Vote: Mastered
Not to mention the killer has eyes... which they don't... and throws the acid in their faces.
Possible there's a connection of some sort, but it's not a xenomorph alien running around throwing acid.
Heck, it's probably Reptile from Mortal Kombat!
I'd buy this.
Destiny
07-25-2010, 06:08 PM
You were very active when I first started to play here, and then you started to pull a Destiny in recent games.:D
And to get this back on topic, who do you think might be Scum (and no I will not get mad if you point the finger in my direction).
After Midnightnick's apparent results, I'm fairly certain that masterded is scum. I also feel "Teh Showtime" is likely to be scum.
BHK1978
07-25-2010, 06:25 PM
After Midnightnick's apparent results, I'm fairly certain that masterded is scum. I also feel "Teh Showtime" is likely to be scum.
Why would you say Teh Showtime? What stands out to you about him? I beleive this is his first game on this board so it could be he is just getting used to playing with new people (And this is not a defense for him I am just saying he is new to the games on here).
Undertaker666
07-25-2010, 06:41 PM
Vote Count:
masterded: 12 (Midnightnick, Zeel1, The Two, Inadvertant, Glotnot, Tha Black Phenom, Paws7297, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero, Gabbo, iMac, Jman2k3)
MichiganHero: 3 (Comradebot, Antithesis, SmartBomb)
It is Day 3. With 30 players remaining, it takes 16 to lynch. You have until Monday 26th July, 10:00pm BST (5pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.
Zeel1
07-25-2010, 08:29 PM
Wow, you know, I just now realized the irony behind Gabbo comparing Moonikins to DeCicco.
She did have a kill...
He implies that she isn't putting in an effort because she doesn't have a kill, and meanwhile, she's a Bounty Hunter... :D God, I hate him so much.
The Two
07-25-2010, 09:01 PM
It's been a busy few days for me, and I admit I expected this lynch to be over by the time I got home tonight. I've not bothered to organise an MHM Drivah, so these are just some random thoughts about the major issues.
After reading over some things, I tend to agree that the acid sounds like a kill, but I'm struggling to think of any character it would fit. Somebody said it could be a serial killer and I think that could be right. Knives for the mafia, screams for vampire recruitments, and acid for an indie kill. I just can't think of an acid killer without thinking of John George Haigh, and while there was a great TV Movie about him several years ago, I don't think that would make the cut.
I understand the motivation for being suspicious of the last few votes on Bak, but I think some people just can't resist a bandwagon, especially when there was an apparent scum result attached, and a not great defence. Easy mistake to make.
From what I've seen of MNN's play previously, I'm willing to trust him for now on this. He's never been the type to put himself at risk to get a single mislynch. Also, if there's a cult, we need to hit them fast, getting rid of a cult early is often the key to securing a town victory.
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 10:17 PM
Well, Jaded asked that we give Astil time to answer his questions... wanna see where that goes, could be its Astil getting frozen in a write up, for example.
But I'll be switching my vote tomorrow to help make sure the lynch gets done.
No offense to Mded but its another case of needing to test a result, plus a little doubt about the character claim.
mjdgoldeneye
07-25-2010, 10:21 PM
It's been a busy few days for me, and I admit I expected this lynch to be over by the time I got home tonight. I've not bothered to organise an MHM Drivah, so these are just some random thoughts about the major issues.
There's so many people posting so many thoughts that by the time I get writing my post, I'm responding to 8 quotes in length and when I refresh the thread, I've missed a page that more or less sums up everything I just said, so I just close the reply and wait for more stuff to pile up. :p
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 10:26 PM
There's so many people posting so many thoughts that by the time I get writing my post, I'm responding to 8 quotes in length and when I refresh the thread, I've missed a page that more or less sums up everything I just said, so I just close the reply and wait for more stuff to pile up. :p
You never did answer, that I saw.
Your character, male or female?
Antithesis
07-25-2010, 10:46 PM
You never did answer, that I saw.
Your character, male or female?
Oh well then.
mjdgoldeneye
07-25-2010, 11:44 PM
You never did answer, that I saw.
Your character, male or female?
Male. Very male.
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 12:42 AM
Nothing else going on so far...might as well
Vote: masterded
Bye bye evil Cult scum...
SmartBomb
07-26-2010, 02:00 AM
Might as well vote.
Change Vote: masterded
BHK1978
07-26-2010, 02:11 AM
Okay we have two votes left. I will not be putting my vote on until tomorrow because we still have plenty of time left in this day phase. And with this being the weekend of course the day phase will be slow and that seems to be the reason why the day has sort of grinded to a halt.
hellshock70
07-26-2010, 02:11 AM
might as well get on with it. I hope to god he isn't sloth or we're backing ourselves into a corner.
Vote: masterded
hellshock70
07-26-2010, 02:12 AM
might as well get on with it. I hope to god he isn't sloth or we're backing ourselves into a corner.
Vote: masterded
change vote: no lynch
you're right bhk plenty of time left
hellshock70
07-26-2010, 02:14 AM
change vote: no lynch
you're right bhk plenty of time left
Plus I've decided that I refuse to be a part of what may be a back-to-back mislynch.
hellshock70
07-26-2010, 02:15 AM
Plus I've decided that I refuse to be a part of what may be a back-to-back mislynch.
especially when I've been gone most of the day and I was able to get caught up on 1 page since the AM.
SuperOwens
07-26-2010, 02:28 AM
Yes it was a good call even if it was Scum on Scum killing. One less bad guy we (I say we but I think you are Scum so maybe we is not the right word.) have to worry about.
I'd hate to be on your scum team :p
Heads up, scum dont want to kill other scum. So no, it wasnt a good call. It was a bad call for whoever did it.
That's different from being a good result for the town, which it was.
Fair enough, then. As activity levels are extremely low today, I'd like to now ask SuperOwens why he has not been as active as he has been in previous games.
This feels so wrong.... :p
Wow, you know, I just now realized the irony behind Gabbo comparing Moonikins to DeCicco.
She did have a kill...
He implies that she isn't putting in an effort because she doesn't have a kill, and meanwhile, she's a Bounty Hunter... :D God, I hate him so much.
Hmm, you have said this a few times now. I see no proof either way that she had a kill. I get that your inferring from role title but that is unequivocal proof of role.
BHK1978
07-26-2010, 02:40 AM
I'd hate to be on your scum team :p
Heads up, scum dont want to kill other scum. So no, it wasnt a good call. It was a bad call for whoever did it.
I will never be Scum so you don't have to worry. The T in Mr. T Jobs to Me might have meant always town...well I don't really have a letter that matches that in my name. However, I guess as Tommy Lasorda once said, "I bleed Dodger blue (in this case replace Dodger with Town).:)
Now onto the MLT theory, if she did have a kill it would make sense that she would have tried it on Gabbo (she did try to use her powers on him that night).
Destiny
07-26-2010, 03:01 AM
I believe that I've already placed my vote on masterded but it was not included in the most recent vote count.
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 03:04 AM
Anyone else notice a few players have gone from vocal to completely silent from D1 -> D3?
BHK1978
07-26-2010, 03:07 AM
Anyone else notice a few players have gone from vocal to completely silent from D1 -> D3?
I just chalk it up to being the weekend, and there seems to be a general direction that the town wants to go in.
Destiny
07-26-2010, 03:32 AM
I don't think it's usually this quiet at the weekend. Astil may be finding it difficult getting Internet access after being evicted last week.
Antithesis
07-26-2010, 04:02 AM
I'd hate to be on your scum team :p
Heads up, scum dont want to kill other scum. So no, it wasnt a good call. It was a bad call for whoever did it.
That's different from being a good result for the town, which it was.
Depends on the situation. Some games, scum groups can't win together. I know in VG mafia everyone in my scum group wanted to kill Derek's scum group.
Look at the Bak lynch.
Shape knew Bak wasn't in his group, but may have suspected Bak was scum. Didn't stop him from voting, or for that matter, pushing for the lynch.
Destiny
07-26-2010, 04:36 AM
Exactly. It also means that there will likely be some scum voting for masterded as well.
SuperOwens
07-26-2010, 05:41 AM
Depends on the situation. Some games, scum groups can't win together. I know in VG mafia everyone in my scum group wanted to kill Derek's scum group.
Look at the Bak lynch.
Shape knew Bak wasn't in his group, but may have suspected Bak was scum. Didn't stop him from voting, or for that matter, pushing for the lynch.
In a big game, if there are 2 scum groups, even if you cant win together, you don't want to take them out early. Its pointless, You are limiting your options. You need to get the numbers down.
Win win for Shape there, he was going to get lynched anyway. Come up scum it looks good for him, come up town you have killed a protector and can say everybody was involved in the miss lynch.
That's a completely different situation to actively targeting fellow scum.
Destiny
07-26-2010, 06:01 AM
I suppose you're right, in that scum would rather kill town than other scum. However, the latter option is much less risky.
Gabbo
07-26-2010, 07:59 AM
Back at the 'café. Bit more time today so I can catch up properly but still lacking my notey wotes.
A Result as specific as "Vampire Cult" makes me pretty certain that Midnightnick is telling the truth. You can't get that precise and just be making it up. That'd be suicide. I'll definitely be putting my vote down, after we've put more of the phase time to good use.
Basically my thoughts. If Mded comes up with the exact alignment MNN says, then I'm hapy to believe MNN's town. If MNN got ablities then yeah that's scummy, but alignments don't matter to scum. They need to kill everyone that isn't in their group. So this could end up being a very good phase should we lynch a cult recruiter and go someway to confirming a town cop. Albeit with a target over his head.
And I still haven't figured out whether or not I'm Paranoid, Insane, or Random... But for what it's worth, MichiganHero came up "Not Good Aligned", which is effectively what Bak42 came up, as well. And considering Bak42 ended up being Good Aligned... I don't know. We'll hopefully find out, soon.
So N3 confirms you as either paranoid, insane or Bak as a miller.
A Vig?
She said she couldn't get to gabbo N1.
Assumed a roleblock but maybe Gabbo has a protector in his pocket...
Nope. I've assumed an awful lot on what happened and can only assume some more.
Female, can go out at night, haven't went out yet. For film reference I was in Aliens. And I can hide.
Too many hider, bulletproof, protector, nexus roles. Some of them have to be scum...
Okay, so if recruitment was going on. How long would it take? Maybe it takes a while for the vampire to come out. Looking at the way Ded has set out his claim, he could easily have been visited by a vampire who did his thing and Ded is just waiting to come out, but still stuck in jail.
Or It could just be a bs claim
How would an investigator know before the actual player? BS.
If we are assuming that the scream signifies a vampire recruit, then would Midnightnick's results show alignments at the start of the night phase he investigates or the alignmet once the night phase is over?
Would have to be after.
Lol right.
Let's hope he isn't Blade.
Vote: Mastered
Blade was half human, half vampire and hunted vampires. Can't see him being aligned with them.
Wow, you know, I just now realized the irony behind Gabbo comparing Moonikins to DeCicco.
She did have a kill...
He implies that she isn't putting in an effort because she doesn't have a kill, and meanwhile, she's a Bounty Hunter... :D God, I hate him so much.
I'm well aware she had a kill, as you can see in one of our exchanges. But Dear me, in your vain attempt to jump to her defence you've bypassed the point that everyone else got. Her encouraging town to lynch a power role day one just because she refused to answer questions.
If you do legitmately hate someone over the internet just because they made a valid in-game comment to an adult woman that you're obsessed with - you seriously need to re-evaluate your life. Either way let it go, we had our quibble day 1, it was nothing to do with you and the yet both of you can't let it go.
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I'm struggling to come up with an acid killer, no-one comes to mind. Unless it's some kind of JOAT role, that has a range of weapons at his disposal, each doing a different thing to his victim. If we see acid again N3, safe to say I'm wrong on that one.
I'd like to see where Jaded is going with Astil, but the fact Mded has disappeared makes me feel good about this lynch.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 08:01 AM
Too many hider, bulletproof, protector, nexus roles. Some of them have to be scum...
I am kinda clear seeing as the second part of my title is Good Aligned Elusive Child.
Destiny
07-26-2010, 08:03 AM
As I said earlier, MichiganHero, I haven't seen Alien. However, you posting that part of your role title should make it fairly obvious who you are.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 08:05 AM
As I said earlier, MichiganHero, I haven't seen Alien. However, you posting that part of your role title should make it fairly obvious who you are.
I had to wiki the name as I too haven't seen Aliens.
Max Peck
07-26-2010, 08:06 AM
So N3 confirms you as either paranoid, insane or Bak as a miller.
Bak isn't the miller, of that I am certain.
SuperOwens
07-26-2010, 08:40 AM
Back at the 'café. Bit more time today so I can catch up properly but still lacking my notey wotes.
Basically my thoughts. If Mded comes up with the exact alignment MNN says, then I'm hapy to believe MNN's town. If MNN got ablities then yeah that's scummy, but alignments don't matter to scum. They need to kill everyone that isn't in their group. So this could end up being a very good phase should we lynch a cult recruiter and go someway to confirming a town cop. Albeit with a target over his head.
So N3 confirms you as either paranoid, insane or Bak as a miller.
Nope. I've assumed an awful lot on what happened and can only assume some more.
Too many hider, bulletproof, protector, nexus roles. Some of them have to be scum...
How would an investigator know before the actual player? BS.
Would have to be after.
Blade was half human, half vampire and hunted vampires. Can't see him being aligned with them.
I'm well aware she had a kill, as you can see in one of our exchanges. But Dear me, in your vain attempt to jump to her defence you've bypassed the point that everyone else got. Her encouraging town to lynch a power role day one just because she refused to answer questions.
If you do legitmately hate someone over the internet just because they made a valid in-game comment to an adult woman that you're obsessed with - you seriously need to re-evaluate your life. Either way let it go, we had our quibble day 1, it was nothing to do with you and the yet both of you can't let it go.
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I'm struggling to come up with an acid killer, no-one comes to mind. Unless it's some kind of JOAT role, that has a range of weapons at his disposal, each doing a different thing to his victim. If we see acid again N3, safe to say I'm wrong on that one.
I'd like to see where Jaded is going with Astil, but the fact Mded has disappeared makes me feel good about this lynch.
So you definitely think MLT tried targeting you night 1 for a kill? Do you see yourself in the write-ups at all? Or you not been going out?
Teh_Showtime
07-26-2010, 08:43 AM
don't think MLT went out night 1 at least
Destiny
07-26-2010, 08:58 AM
That looks like two abilities outted in the space of three posts if Teh Showtime is claiming to be a tracker.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 08:58 AM
That looks like two abilities outted in the space of three posts if Teh Showtime is claiming to be a tracker.
I would hold off of Teh S just now.
Teh_Showtime
07-26-2010, 09:25 AM
Not claiming tracker ;)
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 09:31 AM
Not claiming tracker ;)
Watcher?
Teh_Showtime
07-26-2010, 09:36 AM
Not telling :p
I will name claim to let you figure out yourself though
Teh_Showtime
07-26-2010, 09:38 AM
Kale Brecht, Good Aligned (Disturbia)
Undertaker666
07-26-2010, 09:41 AM
Vote Count:
masterded: 16 (Midnightnick, Zeel1, The Two, Inadvertant, Glotnot, Tha Black Phenom, Paws7297, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero, Destiny, Gabbo, iMac, Jman2k3, BlueStar, SmartBomb, hellshock70)
MichiganHero: 2 (Comradebot, Antithesis)
Lynch has been achieved!
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 09:41 AM
Kale Brecht, Good Aligned (Disturbia)
I wiki'd this and got weird stuff. If anybody wants me to reveal I will.
Teh_Showtime
07-26-2010, 09:42 AM
lynch has been achived
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 09:43 AM
Vote Count:
masterded: 16 (Midnightnick, Zeel1, The Two, Inadvertant, Glotnot, Tha Black Phenom, Paws7297, mjdgoldeneye, MichiganHero, Destiny, Gabbo, iMac, Jman2k3, BlueStar, SmartBomb, hellshock70)
MichiganHero: 2 (Comradebot, Antithesis)
Lynch has been achieved!
Yay! Hopefully we get our Vampire Leader. Now, please don't keep us waiting Mr.Taker666.
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 09:45 AM
Exactly. It also means that there will likely be some scum voting for masterded as well.
Kinda redundant though, don't you think? Scum vote everywhere really. They vote on town, they vote on other scum and often they'll vote on themselves too. Sometimes voting patterns will truly be a tell but I think these days its awareness has gone way up by view of scum.
don't think MLT went out night 1 at least
She stated she got roleblocked. Technically she didn't, but... she tried to.
Undertaker666
07-26-2010, 09:51 AM
Day 3
Someone stepped forward with information gained from the night before, 'He's a vampire!'. With blazing torches in hand the crowd descended upon the man and dragged him to the gallows. The lever was pulled, dropping the man and snapping his neck. The crowd breathed a sigh of relief... but then the man raised his head, 'So, you play your wits against mine. Me, who commanded armies hundred of years before you were born. There is no way in this life to stop me. Mwahahahaaaaaa!!!'
A man stepped forward, 'Enough of this', and drove a stake through his heart.
'Ahhh, crap...'
masterded is dead, he was Vlad III Draculea, Vampire Cult Aligned Supreme Vampire.
It is now Night 3. You have until Tuesday 27th July 4pm BST (11am EST) to send in your abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 09:53 AM
Day 3
Someone stepped forward with information gained from the night before, 'He's a vampire!'. With blazing torches in hand the crowd descended upon the man and dragged him to the gallows. The lever was pulled, dropping the man and snapping his neck. The crowd breathed a sigh of relief... but then the man raised his head, 'So, you play your wits against mine. Me, who commanded armies hundred of years before you were born. There is no way in this life to stop me. Mwahahahaaaaaa!!!'
A man stepped forward, 'Enough of this', and drove a stake through his heart.
'Ahhh, crap...'
masterded is dead, he was Vlad III Draculea, Vampire Cult Aligned Supreme Vampire.
It is now Night 3. You have until Wednesday 28th July 4pm BST (11am EST) to send in your abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.
LOL!
Anyways, start getting 'dem PM's in people.
Antithesis
07-26-2010, 10:50 AM
In a big game, if there are 2 scum groups, even if you cant win together, you don't want to take them out early. Its pointless, You are limiting your options. You need to get the numbers down.
Win win for Shape there, he was going to get lynched anyway. Come up scum it looks good for him, come up town you have killed a protector and can say everybody was involved in the miss lynch.
That's a completely different situation to actively targeting fellow scum.
True true, but I was making a different point. Scum may not want to waste a Night kill on rival scum N2, but lynching them, thats an easy out.
Destiny
07-26-2010, 11:32 AM
Whether scum helped vote for that lynch or not, it's a tremendous result for the town.
Glotnot
07-26-2010, 11:54 AM
So what do we think the chances are on the cult members changing back to human after the head vampire dies? :p
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 11:54 AM
Whether scum helped vote for that lynch or not, it's a tremendous result for the town.
If it can help, I know masterded went out on N1. So there's got to be one recruit about probably.
Good lynch after a pretty big bummer D2. If everyone pays attention, town should know what to do this night.
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 11:56 AM
So what do we think the chances are on the cult members changing back to human after the head vampire dies? :p
Like Cult members being recruited but not knowing who recruited them? E-Ville springs to mind. But unless someone steps forward....
Destiny
07-26-2010, 12:07 PM
I doubt anybody would want to step forward voluntarily as they might be worried that the town wouldn't believe them.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 12:08 PM
I doubt anybody would want to step forward voluntarily as they might be worried that the town wouldn't believe them.
On a side note. If I am right in saying, a hider hides behind someone so any actions directed upon them would be blocked OR would the person being hid behind take them?
Imarevenant
07-26-2010, 12:14 PM
I doubt anybody would want to step forward voluntarily as they might be worried that the town wouldn't believe them.
Pretty much what happened in E-Ville right. Town didn't believe that Astil the FI was cured from being a cultie and so lynched him. Doh!
Imarevenant
07-26-2010, 12:15 PM
On a side note. If I am right in saying, a hider hides behind someone so any actions directed upon them would be blocked OR would the person being hid behind take them?
Depends on the Mod.......usually your actions wouldn't go through when targeting a hider though.
Destiny
07-26-2010, 12:31 PM
Pretty much what happened in E-Ville right. Town didn't believe that Astil the FI was cured from being a cultie and so lynched him. Doh!
Aye, I remember that game as it was my first, and I of course was married to you; and accidently helped in your mislynch after we both assumed the other had been turned evil.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 12:33 PM
Aye, I remember that game as it was my first, and I of course was married to you; and accidently helped in your mislynch after we both assumed the other had been turned evil.
Hahaha...What. Destiny, do you have a knack for being married in these games. E-Ville and CFC spring to mind.
Also where did the old fun-loving Destiny go?
Destiny
07-26-2010, 01:01 PM
What do you mean by that? Sorry if I haven't been as fun recently, some of the criticism during Catfish Creek really made me question my involvement in these games so I'm trying to be more proactive in this game and find out as much information as I can from the game thread as I don't have an active ability.
The Two
07-26-2010, 01:01 PM
So what do we think the chances are on the cult members changing back to human after the head vampire dies? :p
I think the answer to that would be slim and none.
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 01:02 PM
Pretty much what happened in E-Ville right. Town didn't believe that Astil the FI was cured from being a cultie and so lynched him. Doh!
Not completely true. If I remember things correctly, Astil got recruited and MJD claimed a priest. For me this was a all-or-nothing deal...(like Astil's claim here N1). Immediate lynch or keep around forever.
Did Astil get lynched? Not sure about that....
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 01:03 PM
I think the answer to that would be slim and none.
Slim (Jim) 's playing? I'd put a vote down!
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 01:06 PM
What do you mean by that? Sorry if I haven't been as fun recently, some of the criticism during Catfish Creek really made me question my involvement in these games so I'm trying to be more proactive in this game and find out as much information as I can from the game thread as I don't have an active ability.
I was reading older games and you seemed less robotic. Where did that part of you go.
Antithesis
07-26-2010, 01:08 PM
Not completely true. If I remember things correctly, Astil got recruited and MJD claimed a priest. For me this was a all-or-nothing deal...(like Astil's claim here N1). Immediate lynch or keep around forever.
Did Astil get lynched? Not sure about that....
Yeah he got lynched, and the town was without an FI after the killing started back...
BlueStar
07-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Yeah he got lynched, and the town was without an FI after the killing started back...
I protected him...I think I got lynched for that. Outlaw drove the nail in the coffin (as scum), Shape pushed the wagon (as town).
Paws7297
07-26-2010, 01:34 PM
What do you mean by that? Sorry if I haven't been as fun recently, some of the criticism during Catfish Creek really made me question my involvement in these games so I'm trying to be more proactive in this game and find out as much information as I can from the game thread as I don't have an active ability.
:( Awww Destiny. It's ok. I still think you're cool. :cool: :D Cheer up :)
I was reading older games and you seemed less robotic. Where did that part of you go.
You know he does seem kind of robotic now......:p
Imarevenant
07-26-2010, 01:35 PM
I was reading older games and you seemed less robotic. Where did that part of you go.
He's just in need of a gimmick change, the humorless robot one has grown stale.
MichiganHero
07-26-2010, 01:37 PM
He's just in need of a gimmick change, the humorless robot one has grown stale.
What gimmick shall we give him. Hmmm. How about one where we must renounce his old robotic self and end every post with something about "THE FLAVAAH OF LIFE~!"
Midnightnick
07-26-2010, 01:47 PM
You guys are welcome!
hellshock70
07-26-2010, 05:24 PM
Day 3
Someone stepped forward with information gained from the night before, 'He's a vampire!'. With blazing torches in hand the crowd descended upon the man and dragged him to the gallows. The lever was pulled, dropping the man and snapping his neck. The crowd breathed a sigh of relief... but then the man raised his head, 'So, you play your wits against mine. Me, who commanded armies hundred of years before you were born. There is no way in this life to stop me. Mwahahahaaaaaa!!!'
A man stepped forward, 'Enough of this', and drove a stake through his heart.
'Ahhh, crap...'
masterded is dead, he was Vlad III Draculea, Vampire Cult Aligned Supreme Vampire.
It is now Night 3. You have until Tuesday 27th July 4pm BST (11am EST) to send in your abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.
Now I'll feel a little better on the next one that looks a little off.
Midnightnick
07-26-2010, 05:27 PM
Now I'll feel a little better on the next one that looks a little off.
Told you all I was right :D
hellshock70
07-26-2010, 05:27 PM
Now I'll feel a little better on the next one that looks a little off.
At the same time how can we be sure he's dead? How many times has a dead vamp came back?
Midnightnick
07-26-2010, 05:37 PM
At the same time how can we be sure he's dead? How many times has a dead vamp came back?
In mafia? 0.
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 05:49 PM
Scum coming back is kind of redundant, when you think about it.
They'll just be immediately re-lynched... :p
If their character were to possess some townie and make them scum, or something, I guess that would work, but otherwise, it wouldn't accomplish much.
Jman2k3
07-26-2010, 07:57 PM
Blade was half human, half vampire and hunted vampires. Can't see him being aligned with them.
Blade was when he was in the Bloodpack in part 2.
Day 3
Someone stepped forward with information gained from the night before, 'He's a vampire!'. With blazing torches in hand the crowd descended upon the man and dragged him to the gallows. The lever was pulled, dropping the man and snapping his neck. The crowd breathed a sigh of relief... but then the man raised his head, 'So, you play your wits against mine. Me, who commanded armies hundred of years before you were born. There is no way in this life to stop me. Mwahahahaaaaaa!!!'
A man stepped forward, 'Enough of this', and drove a stake through his heart.
'Ahhh, crap...'
masterded is dead, he was Vlad III Draculea, Vampire Cult Aligned Supreme Vampire.
It is now Night 3. You have until Tuesday 27th July 4pm BST (11am EST) to send in your abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.
Sweet. Vlad won't be impaling anybody anymore. Yay town.
mjdgoldeneye
07-26-2010, 08:14 PM
MNN's result was oddly specific. I don't think a cultist would throw his leader under the bus on Day 3, though, so whatever. :p
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 09:17 PM
My role is very upsetting to me just now.
Glad to see we got masterded though. :)
Antithesis
07-26-2010, 09:20 PM
My role is very upsetting to me just now.
Glad to see we got masterded though. :)
I see that. Apparently you turn to silence when frustrated.
Antithesis 208
moon_lit_tears 158
Destiny 129
hellshock70 121
Astil 109
Zeel1 90
BHK1978 82
Undertaker666 75
Comradebot 74
BlueStar 60
Paws7297 53
Tha Black Phenom 49
The Shape 45
Glotnot 34
Midnightnick 33
Inadvertant 32
Gabbo 32
mjdgoldeneye 30
MichiganHero 26
Max Peck 25
SmartBomb 22
Rebelliousangel 21
petrija 21
Teh_Showtime 20
masterded 17
bak42 16
iMac 16
SuperOwens 15
Arrows 14
supermareo 14
Kobe1724 13
Olivier le Fou 12
Jman2k3 10
The Two 10
Imarevenant 9
Jaded 8
Crychon 4
Antithesis
07-26-2010, 09:21 PM
Surprised at the lack of input from Rev. Must still be in a hotel somewhere.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 09:23 PM
I see that. Apparently you turn to silence when frustrated.
Antithesis 208
moon_lit_tears 158
Destiny 129
hellshock70 121
Astil 109
Zeel1 90
BHK1978 82
Undertaker666 75
Comradebot 74
BlueStar 60
Paws7297 53
Tha Black Phenom 49
The Shape 45
Glotnot 34
Midnightnick 33
Inadvertant 32
Gabbo 32
mjdgoldeneye 30
MichiganHero 26
Max Peck 25
SmartBomb 22
Rebelliousangel 21
petrija 21
Teh_Showtime 20
masterded 17
bak42 16
iMac 16
SuperOwens 15
Arrows 14
supermareo 14
Kobe1724 13
Olivier le Fou 12
Jman2k3 10
The Two 10
Imarevenant 9
Jaded 8
Crychon 4
Not quite.
I've actually been inordinately busy, and every time I've had free time the prospect of reading through the topic has grown more and more daunting to me. I finally took 2.5 hours and power read through everything tonight though. I have some thoughts that will become more concrete once I have a chance to do some questioning during the day time.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 09:33 PM
Intrigued we haven't lynched Astil yet... or you, for that matter. :cool:
Random thoughts:
1. Destiny is very active this game. I've observed that when he's town he tends to be more quiet than when he's scum (although he is quiet all of the time compared against the average poster).
My theory is that this is probably because when he knows he's town and thus feels he can stand up to intense questioning at some point he feels more comfortable withholding information. As scum, he feels the need to be more active early in an effort to eliminate himself as a suspect when the vote totals are high.
Even if one does something suspicious at the beginning of the game, not getting lynched is a likely result and at that point one can go several phases before being pressured again. My estimation would be that Destiny realized this.
As such, my current thoughts are that Destiny is scum.
No proof yet.
2. MNN is okay, obviously. MH is probably okay although I'd prefer not to go into details on that at this time.
3. Tha Black Phenom And/OR Comradebot are scum. I'm leaning toward the OR at this point but the ANDwouldn't be surprising to me.
4. Astil is indy most likely, but outright scum or scum leaning indy wouldn't surprise me. I'd like to lynch him ASAP.
5. Bluestar doesn't sit well with me. I don't know why yet, but I'll find out.
6. I think there is a slightly greater than 50% chance Antithesis is scum, but only slightly and depending on what happens tonight that thought process might change.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 09:37 PM
Intrigued we haven't lynched Astil yet... or you, for that matter.
"You" refers to Antithesis.
Also, some things about myself:
1. I can use my ability only every other night.
2. I missed out on using it (my ability) the one time I could have so far (My parents home flooded recently, life was really hectic at that time and I just didn't have time for mafia that day iirc).
3. I'm not entirely sure that my ability will be useful even once I use it. My character sounds incompetent.
4. I'm male.
5. My character is from the 1990s.
The Two
07-26-2010, 09:39 PM
My role is very upsetting to me just now.
Yeah, I imagine it must suck to see your leader lynched so early. :p
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 09:49 PM
Yeah, I imagine it must suck to see your leader lynched so early. :p
If I were part of a cult and my leader were lynched I would actually be really excited about it. The idea of surviving to the end as part of a cult without being able to grow our members sounds like a really fun challenge.
Technically, if I understand a cult correctly then once their leader is dead they can't recruit new members. So since I wouldn't be going out at night then I wouldn't be implicated doing something scummy. My challenges then would be to cultivate a character profile that the scum wanted around while still earning the relative trust of the town.
Would I care which side won in that case? More specifically, are cults like survivors or do they have to be a majority amongst the 3-5 groups in a big game (Town, mafia/mafia, SK, other) to win? In the case of the former the win condition sounds fairly easy. In the case of the latter it sounds near impossible.
Imarevenant
07-26-2010, 09:52 PM
Surprised at the lack of input from Rev. Must still be in a hotel somewhere.
Got back Saturday actually. Tried to post a bit last night, but mostly was catching up on day 1 fun. Totally thought we'd have more time this day phase but it was a slam dunk of a lynch so I'm not worried about it or anything.
Will be more vocal in the coming phases as I'll have more time (just in time for another damn trip to L.A. :( I hate that city with a passion!)
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 09:57 PM
Additional thoughts on Destiny and Astil:
He (Destiny) obviously believes that staying low key is the optimal win/survival strategy based on his typical play. As such, it makes sense to look into what rationale he could have for speaking up.
Typically, he must be pressured before he speaks up as town. This makes sense. He doesn't want to draw attention to himself lest he become a scum target for what could be a myriad of different reasons.
But as scum, however, the psychology changes. He isn't worried about what scum think but what town think. And quietness is associated with scummy play. So he posts more... but he posts early when a lynch is unlikely. Once he's established a presence/vague claim that stands up under reasonable pressure (not difficult when lynch requirements are so high early in the game and most people are giving very little) then he buys himself many phases while other people are pressured.
The later in a game you are pressured for the first time, the more you're forced to reveal. So a smart scum wants to be pressured early since everyone will be pressured eventually.
On that note...
This is why Astil is so frustrating to play/understand. He always draws attention to himself early and becomes the subject of pressure. However, he is forced to give up little of real substance and then from there future inquiries against him are brushed aside because he's already "claimed."
Investigating a guy like him should always be priority number one. The fact that he's claimed some sort of indy role so early just makes me want to get rid of him ASAP.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:03 PM
Users currently viewing thread:
Comradebot+, Midnightnick, Paws7297, Zeel1
C-Bot taking four minutes to make a relatively short/simple reply early on in the game stands out to me for some reason. His commentary with Phenom (while insubstantial) also strikes me as odd/off. The probability that they are both scum is just over 20%... high considering that there are more than 25 players still in the game and that little has given much information.
I haven't looked closely at Paws yet. I still have residual town thoughts associated with her from last game and am not yet capable of being objective when it comes to her.
I have thoughts on zeel1, but won't share them at this time.
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 10:19 PM
2. MNN is okay, obviously.
I'm not entirely sure about that.
The result seemed very Role Cop-esque to me, which is scum the majority of the time. Now granted, I still haven't played a huge amount of games - nevermind a lot of games that have had Role Cops in them, but don't they sometimes get full Role PMs?
Maybe it's just because I just now came out of a game where I was with a Role Cop who basically claimed a Role Cop - and even tried to get who we thought was the Mercenary lynched with it to make him look more townie - but I feel just a little uneasy about him.
Not saying I want to lead a charge against MNN - he helped us catch scum, and possibly even stopped a Cult from gaining recruits, and I'm grateful for that - I just don't really want to say he's 100% cleared. Just keeping my eye on him for the moment, you understand. I'm not looking to be played, and I feel he's one of those players that could and would pull this kind of thing off... Besides, if he is indeed a town role cop, then he could probably use a little suspicion dropped his way, so he probably doesn't mind this all that much...
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:27 PM
I'm not entirely sure about that.
The result seemed very Role Cop-esque to me, which is scum the majority of the time. Now granted, I still haven't played a huge amount of games - nevermind a lot of games that have had Role Cops in them, but don't they sometimes get full Role PMs?
Maybe it's just because I just now came out of a game where I was with a Role Cop who basically claimed a Role Cop - and even tried to get who we thought was the Mercenary lynched with it to make him look more townie - but I feel just a little uneasy about him.
Not saying I want to lead a charge against MNN - he helped us catch scum, and possibly even stopped a Cult from gaining recruits, and I'm grateful for that - I just don't really want to say he's 100% cleared. Just keeping my eye on him for the moment, you understand. I'm not looking to be played, and I feel he's one of those players that could and would pull this kind of thing off... Besides, if he is indeed a town role cop, then he could probably use a little suspicion dropped his way, so he probably doesn't mind this all that much...
It's certainly possible MNN is scum. His silence so far doesn't really help my position for him as town in my mind, but I'm willing to dismiss that for now.
More importantly, however, by helping us catch scum so early then if he's scum it's brought his surprisingly little goodwill. If he doesn't continue to be useful then it will stand out much more so than if he hadn't said anything at all. It's basically essential that he continues to produce results. Making this play as a scum late in the game could have actually really benefited his survival, but now if he's scum he must either continue to implicate his buddies or else draw attention to himself since people will be expecting results.
"I got blocked" only works 1-2 times in my mind, although to be fair if MNN is town then a smart scum could block him multiple times with the dual purpose of preventing him from coming up town and also ultimately nudging him in the direction of being mis-lynched for the reasoning I listed above.
Heh.
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm not entirely sure about that.
The result seemed very Role Cop-esque to me, which is scum the majority of the time. Now granted, I still haven't played a huge amount of games - nevermind a lot of games that have had Role Cops in them, but don't they sometimes get full Role PMs?
Heck no. Entire role PMs are out of the question, I'd believe.
Now, I don't know about MNN, he could be bad(I think same as you about just coming off a game with this ish, hindsight 20/20) but heck.. we actually don't seem to have another valid investigator out there. OLF is obviously flawed - of course, maybe another investigator out there decided not to present themselves for obvious reasons, but for now I'll use the benefit of the doubt.
I'm glad we got some vampire sucking out of the way. We can all sleep peacefully in our hotel rooms horror-scream free.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:30 PM
Re-post with better grammar:
It's certainly possible MNN is scum. His silence in response to the statements I've made concerning him so far doesn't really support my declaration of him as town, but I'm willing to dismiss that for now.
More importantly, however, by helping us catch scum so early then if he's scum it's brought him surprisingly little goodwill. If he doesn't continue to be useful then it will stand out much more so than if he hadn't said anything at all. It's basically essential that he continues to produce results. Making this play as a scum late in the game could have actually really benefited his survival, but now if he's scum he must either continue to implicate his buddies or else draw attention to himself since people will be expecting results.
"I got blocked" only works 1-2 times in my mind, although to be fair if MNN is town then a smart scum could block him multiple times with the dual purpose of preventing him from giving the town useful info and also ultimately nudging him in the direction of being mis-lynched (for the reasoning I listed above).
Heh.
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 10:30 PM
Making this play as a scum late in the game could have actually really benefited his survival, but now if he's scum he must either continue to implicate his buddies or else draw attention to himself since people will be expecting results.
It's not his scum buddies I think he's implicated.
But then, he's renowned for doing that, so I can't put it past that either. The possibility that worries me, currently, is him being a Role Cop that found opposing scum, and lead the charge.
Then again, Mded would be an odd choice for a Role Copping...
Jman2k3
07-26-2010, 10:31 PM
"You" refers to Antithesis.
Also, some things about myself:
1. I can use my ability only every other night.
2. I missed out on using it (my ability) the one time I could have so far (My parents home flooded recently, life was really hectic at that time and I just didn't have time for mafia that day iirc).
3. I'm not entirely sure that my ability will be useful even once I use it. My character sounds incompetent.
4. I'm male.
5. My character is from the 1990s.
I might know who you are.
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 10:32 PM
It's certainly possible MNN is scum. His silence so far doesn't really help my position for him as town in my mind, but I'm willing to dismiss that for now.
...what silence? He's posted after the lynch and it's late right now.
/tilts head
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 10:34 PM
His silence in response to the statements I've made concerning him so far doesn't really support my declaration of him as town, but I'm willing to dismiss that for now.
Okay.. that explains it.
But heck, with this being night phase.. remember the only one making loud drum beats at night is you. :p
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:35 PM
I might know who you are.
If so, that's quite impressive given how little I've actually posted about myself. Although it makes sense if you're a certain person also in the film I'm from... which would make my role very interesting.
Care to share anything about yourself?
1. I can use my ability only every other night.
3. I'm not entirely sure that my ability will be useful even once I use it. My character sounds incompetent.
4. I'm male.
5. My character is from the 1990s.
Any two of these four bits would be interesting to learn.
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 10:40 PM
Additional thoughts on Destiny and Astil:
He (Destiny) obviously believes that staying low key is the optimal win/survival strategy based on his typical play. As such, it makes sense to look into what rationale he could have for speaking up.
Typically, he must be pressured before he speaks up as town. This makes sense. He doesn't want to draw attention to himself lest he become a scum target for what could be a myriad of different reasons.
But as scum, however, the psychology changes. He isn't worried about what scum think but what town think. And quietness is associated with scummy play. So he posts more... but he posts early when a lynch is unlikely. Once he's established a presence/vague claim that stands up under reasonable pressure (not difficult when lynch requirements are so high early in the game and most people are giving very little) then he buys himself many phases while other people are pressured.
The later in a game you are pressured for the first time, the more you're forced to reveal. So a smart scum wants to be pressured early since everyone will be pressured eventually.
The Destiny matter is very iffy. Last time he was scum, he tried to take on the "town leader" role and post fluently and consistently.
However, because of the implications of last game there's well a chance he just decided to suit up and play the game to the best of his concern, putting in some solid effort.
But THEN, there's a chance he may have used that as the perfect excuse for his behavior, and re-enact his prominent "town" posting habit with a solid explanation behind it. Just that... I would doubt he'd repeat the same card play again(only that this time he doesn't promote the "town leader" tag). It's quite hard to tell. I'd be leaning on him being town for the moment.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:42 PM
Okay.. that explains it.
But heck, with this being night phase.. remember the only one making loud drum beats at night is you. :p
I do this for a few reasons:
1. Everyone sees my post. So if I say anything useful it's much more likely that people observe it than at any other time during the game. I basically have the stage all to myself.
2. It places a big target on my back. This makes me a scum target, but it also makes me a target to be watched/protected etc. so in the event of my being attacked it's much more likely that useful information is extracted from the attempt/success than a less high profile target.
3. The people with very little to hide tend and the people that are very confident in themselves tend to post at night. It's a good way of identifying town. I have a good handle on who the ****y people are at this point, so I don't read too much into their night postings.
4. I enjoy doing things that I don't see commonly done and seeing what happens. (See my list of mafia rules: 5: http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=1097918&postcount=787 )
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:43 PM
I do this for a few reasons:
1. Everyone sees my post. So if I say anything useful it's much more likely that people observe it than at any other time during the game. I basically have the stage all to myself.
2. It places a big target on my back. This makes me a scum target, but it also makes me a target to be watched/protected etc. so in the event of my being attacked it's much more likely that useful information is extracted from the attempt/success than a less high profile target.
3. The people with very little to hide tend and the people that are very confident in themselves tend to post at night. It's a good way of identifying town. I have a good handle on who the ****y people are at this point, so I don't read too much into their night postings.
4. I enjoy doing things that I don't see commonly done and seeing what happens. (See my list of mafia rules: 5: http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=1097918&postcount=787 )
^^ Totally butchered my use of bold in the above post.
Jman2k3
07-26-2010, 10:46 PM
If so, that's quite impressive given how little I've actually posted about myself. Although it makes sense if you're a certain person also in the film I'm from... which would make my role very interesting.
Care to share anything about yourself?
Any two of these four bits would be interesting to learn.
Nevermind got your comments mixed up with someone else's claim.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:47 PM
The Destiny matter is very iffy. Last time he was scum, he tried to take on the "town leader" role and post fluently and consistently.
However, because of the implications of last game there's well a chance he just decided to suit up and play the game to the best of his concern, putting in some solid effort.
But THEN, there's a chance he may have used that as the perfect excuse for his behavior, and re-enact his prominent "town" posting habit with a solid explanation behind it. Just that... I would doubt he'd repeat the same card play again(only that this time he doesn't promote the "town leader" tag). It's quite hard to tell. I'd be leaning on him being town for the moment.
Hmmm... maybe. I follow your logic and think it's very sound. My thought process here is more so focused on the general proclivity of Destiny to seemingly play quiet that pre-dates my (brief) time in the games - based on what others have said about him and re-reading some old topics.
Destiny is at around 70% likely scum for me. Not really enough to lynch quite yet in light of a much more appealing candidate in Astil.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:49 PM
Nevermind got your comments mixed up with someone else's claim.
Still... would you like to share? :)
Jman2k3
07-26-2010, 10:51 PM
Still... would you like to share? :)
Yeah sure. I'm town. That is all. :cool:
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 10:52 PM
Yeah sure. I'm town. That is all. :cool:
After I'm off my lynch Astil kick I think I'll revisit this statement. :cool:
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 10:54 PM
Hmmm... maybe. I follow your logic and think it's very sound. My thought process here is more so focused on the general proclivity of Destiny to seemingly play quiet that pre-dates my (brief) time in the games - based on what others have said about him and re-reading some old topics.
Destiny is at around 70% likely scum for me. Not really enough to lynch quite yet in light of a much more appealing candidate in Astil.
Hayden, may I ask - what "kind" of scum do you think Astil may be?
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 10:58 PM
I do this for a few reasons:
1. Everyone sees my post. So if I say anything useful it's much more likely that people observe it than at any other time during the game. I basically have the stage all to myself.
Can easily happen on day phase regardless.
I mean hell, you type your main points in bold constantly which is already much, what more do you want to stand out? A 300x300 avatar?
2. It places a big target on my back. This makes me a scum target, but it also makes me a target to be watched/protected etc. so in the event of my being attacked it's much more likely that useful information is extracted from the attempt/success than a less high profile target.
No one is gonna bother protecting the one who runs her mouth every night. If you get popped, it's gonna be on yourself. Protectors have their own guys in mind to protect.
We have investigators out there, characters hinted at left and right. IF there's someone out there who can protect after bak, they'll protect those who are in actual danger. Likely possibility? I think not. Why would they go after a less high profile target to begin with?
Watched? Possibly. If you're wrong about everything though, scum won't target you and it's gonna be for nothing, while again, there are viable targets to be checked out there. Power players, power roles.
3. The people with very little to hide tend and the people that are very confident in themselves tend to post at night. It's a good way of identifying town. I have a good handle on who the ****y people are at this point, so I don't read too much into their night postings.
:cool:
4. I enjoy doing things that I don't see commonly done and seeing what happens. (See my list of mafia rules: 5: http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=1097918&postcount=787 )
Yeah, I heard all about that....
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 11:00 PM
Hayden, may I ask - what "kind" of scum do you think Astil may be?
How did I get to be Hayden Pannetierre (sp?)? I look and act nothing like her. :)
I think Astil is probably indy. I just think that there is also the possibility he's scum, and almost no possibility he's town. I also think that his play style makes it unlikely he's pressured again in the near future. So it's better to just get rid of him nowish. Better safe than sorry, and if he really is indy that would have helped us then we lose comparatively little against a mis-lynch. The probability that he's town is negligible, so meh. :cool:
I also think it (his death) will yield some useful information that I don't want to share at this time.
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 11:04 PM
How did I get to be Hayden Pannetierre (sp?)? I look and act nothing like her. :)
On our CFC scum boards, Eay posted that he thought that she was the girl in your avatar before. I looked her up, and I can kind of see where he thought that. So I thought it would be fun to call you Hayden as a sort-of injoke. :p
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 11:06 PM
Can easily happen on day phase regardless.
I mean hell, you type your main points in bold constantly which is already much, what more do you want to stand out? A 300x300 avatar?
Would be nice... :)
I believe that night posters are more obvious than day posters. I may be wrong, but in that case no harm no foul. My intention is to stand out, but if I don't stand out then I haven't really lost anything.
No one is gonna bother protecting the one who runs her mouth every night. If you get popped, it's gonna be on yourself. Protectors have their own guys in mind to protect.
We have investigators out there, characters hinted at left and right. IF there's someone out there who can protect after bak, they'll protect those who are in actual danger. Likely possibility? I think not. Why would they go after a less high profile target to begin with?
Watched? Possibly. If you're wrong about everything though, scum won't target you and it's gonna be for nothing, while again, there are viable targets to be checked out there. Power players, power roles.
Me being protected is actually the least likely scenario. More probably, however, I'll be watched which is in many ways more useful. I dislike dying, but not enough to play the game in a way that I feel is counter-intuitive.
:cool:
;)
Yeah, I heard all about that....
All of the rules, or rule 5 specifically.
If rule 5 specifically, then I will only say in response: "Touche." If the rules as a whole then I say "What about them?" :)
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 11:08 PM
On our CFC scum boards, Eay posted that he thought that she was the girl in your avatar before. I looked her up, and I can kind of see where he thought that. So I thought it would be fun to call you Hayden as a sort-of injoke. :p
lol nice. Hayden is prettier than I am, I think. I don't like her arms though. :p
Concerning this:
Watched? Possibly. If you're wrong about everything though, scum won't target you and it's gonna be for nothing, while again, there are viable targets to be checked out there. Power players, power roles.
The most likely result of most of my early theories in a game are that they're wrong. I refine and improve them by aggressively testing them, however. That's how one cultivates a good scum/town list imo.
Jman2k3
07-26-2010, 11:12 PM
All of the rules, or rule 5 specifically.
If rule 5 specifically, then I will only say in response: "Touche." If the rules as a whole then I say "What about them?" :)
All five rules state the same thing and that is Jman2k3 is awesome and the greatest man to ever live and is the best at what he does. :cool:
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 11:12 PM
Me being protected is actually the least likely scenario. More probably, however, I'll be watched which is in many ways more useful. I dislike dying, but not enough to play the game in a way that I feel is counter-intuitive.
Well that's great. Keep talking at night so they can watch you. I guess me and my ALPHA scum team will go spread our business elsewhere! :o
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 11:12 PM
You know, I think I would really enjoy being a PGO in a mafia game. Of all the roles but SK and PI I think I would like that the best.
Undertaker666
07-26-2010, 11:13 PM
Would be nice... :)
Here you go:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Misc/avatar.jpg
Tha Black Phenom
07-26-2010, 11:13 PM
You know, I think I would really enjoy being a PGO in a mafia game. Of all the roles but SK and PI I think I would like that the best.
You have no idea.
A tear rolled down my cheek when I fakeclaimed in CFC.
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 11:15 PM
You know, I think I would really enjoy being a PGO in a mafia game. Of all the roles but SK and PI I think I would like that the best.
Drew that once, in Literal Mafia over on Neoseeker. Caught scum the very first night.
That was a good moment for me... :p
Though OLF would argue that it was bad luck that it happened, as it let scum know right away who the PGO was, but meh. The way I see it, dead scum is dead scum.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 11:19 PM
Well that's great. Keep talking at night so they can watch you. I guess me and my ALPHA scum team will go spread our business elsewhere! :o
Even though I expected to be killed in that phase (I even actively tried to be attacked under the accurate premise that someone would watch me and it would result in catching scum), I was surprised (in hindsight stupidly so) that you guys sent Ken after me.
I thought there was only a 65% chance he was scum (not enough to lynch at that point, and based mainly on process of elimination and a singular comment he made about "not being very good at the game"), and more importantly if he was I didn't think you guys would take my night declaration that I was going to investigate him literally in light of my mis-leading you at other points in the game. When it came up that both he and Destiny targeted me the next day I actually thought he was an SK that had panicked when I made the post that I was going to target him. I mistakenly assumed than any scum group wouldn't take anything I said at face value at that point.
That, alongside my presumption that the town would continue to use my scum list in the event of my death were my two biggest miscalculations.
Kobe1724
07-26-2010, 11:20 PM
Here you go:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Misc/avatar.jpg
Hit. :)
BHK1978
07-26-2010, 11:20 PM
Time to pimp the game I put up in the Dog Pound. I know a few of you are already playing it but it can be a fun way to waste some time. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160213&page=16)
Zeel1
07-26-2010, 11:23 PM
Even though I expected to be killed in that phase (I even actively tried to be attacked under the accurate premise that someone would watch me and it would result in catching scum), I was surprised (in hindsight stupidly so) that you guys sent Ken after me.
I thought there was only a 65% chance he was scum (not enough to lynch at that point, and based mainly on process of elimination and a singular comment he made about "not being very good at the game"), and more importantly if he was I didn't think you guys would take my night declaration that I was going to investigate him literally in light of my mis-leading you at other points in the game. When it came up that both he and Destiny targeted me the next day I actually thought he was an SK that had panicked when I made the post that I was going to target him. I mistakenly assumed than any scum group wouldn't take anything I said at face value at that point.
That, alongside my presumption that the town would continue to use my scum list in the event of my death were my two biggest miscalculations.
True, it was fairly clear we couldn't take everything you said literally, but at the same time, when you told us you were going to be looking into one of our members, we couldn't take the chance of letting you live. It would've been far too reckless to just assume you were bluffing in that situation.
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