The Official Movieland Massacre Game Thread

[Undertaker666]

It is now Night 3. You have until Tuesday 27th July 4pm BST (11am EST) to send in your abilities to Undertaker666 AND Crychon.

[Zeel1]

True, it was fairly clear we couldn't take everything you said literally, but at the same time, when you told us you were going to be looking into one of our members, we couldn't take the chance of letting you live. It would've been far too reckless to just assume you were bluffing in that situation.

And yes, you were watched, and that was a concern of ours, but taking out a cop who was going to be leading a lynch against us the next day was worth taking that chance, in my opinion. Considering you were supposedly planning to look into MJD next, I'd say it paid off in the long run.

[Kobe1724]

Time to pimp the game I put up in the Dog Pound. I know a few of you are already playing it but it can be a fun way to waste some time. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160213&page=16)

This fascinates me. I'll make a mental note to watch it unfold. ^_^

Zeel1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1724 View Post
You know, I think I would really enjoy being a PGO in a mafia game. Of all the roles but SK and PI I think I would like that the best.
Drew that once, in Literal Mafia over on Neoseeker. Caught scum the very first night.

That was a good moment for me...

Though OLF would argue that it was bad luck that it happened, as it let scum know right away who the PGO was, but meh. The way I see it, dead scum is dead scum.
Today 11:13 PM
Tha Black Phenom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobe1724 View Post
You know, I think I would really enjoy being a PGO in a mafia game. Of all the roles but SK and PI I think I would like that the best.
You have no idea.

A tear rolled down my cheek when I fakeclaimed in CFC.

I'll bet and I'll bet. :)

Regarding PGO, it would be heaps of fun because I'm such great scum bait that killing my would be executioner would be deliriously entertaining. Bomb equally so on that note, but I don't think I could stay quiet about it the whole game. I'd enjoy daring someone to take me out too much. ^_^

[Kobe1724]

True, it was fairly clear we couldn't take everything you said literally, but at the same time, when you told us you were going to be looking into one of our members, we couldn't take the chance of letting you live. It would've been far too reckless to just assume you were bluffing in that situation.

Yeah, once I read you guys boards in post game I understood your ideaology a bit better. I think I wanted you guys to kill me, I just didn't think it all the way through and assumed:

1. MH sure lynch.
2. My killer if I was attacked was a near sure lynch (due to the high likelihood I got watched)
3. If I live due to being protected AND watched I'll get a likely scum result on Ken PLUS we find out who another scum is when he/she attacks me.
4. If I live due to no one attacking me at all (but not being protected and/or watched) 1-3 are true minus the additional scum result from being watched.
5. If I die and am watched but not protected then 1 and 2 remain true plus people still have my list so it's still a great result.
6. If I die and am neither watched nor protected (worst case scenario) then at least I'll have left my list and maybe finding Eayragt plus coming up the PI causes people to pay credence to it.

I just brain farted in that I didn't put together you guys could choose your killer. So while I assumed you would try and kill me, I never assumed it would be Ken that attempted it. I guess we still should have gotten scenario/bullet 5 out of it, only for some reason the town never lynched MH and also ignored my lists, ultimately making it a bad play/gross mis-calculation on my part.

[Kobe1724]

Anyway, I over analyze things in the past so let's focus on this game again. ^_^

If I die tonight then lynch Astil/pressure Destiny. :)

My two cents. :cool:

[Kobe1724]

And yes, you were watched, and that was a concern of ours, but taking out a cop who was going to be leading a lynch against us the next day was worth taking that chance, in my opinion. Considering you were supposedly planning to look into MJD next, I'd say it paid off in the long run.

Yeah, you guys obviously made the right decision. I tried a high wire act with no safety net and fell, basically. :)

[Kobe1724]

Hmmm... one thought though:

If I ever draw an SK or murdering scum role again and then don't talk at night don't I draw attention to myself? And if I keep talking at night don't I sign my own death warrant?

Heh. :rolleyes:

[Zeel1]

Hmmm... one thought though:

If I ever draw an SK or murdering scum role again and then don't talk at night don't I draw attention to myself? And if I keep talking at night don't I sign my own death warrant?

Heh. :rolleyes:

It can be a dangerous line to cross, when you're always sticking your neck out as town, and as scum are trying to act the same way. Take MJ, for example. There were times where he seemed to take risks - going "all in" on the SO result, for one thing. When I tried to ask him to tone it down, he simply replied that it was how he always played, and he wanted to stay consistent - and rightly so, you don't really want people to notice changes in your style.

I'm actually another example of this. I very quickly cemented myself as a generally scummy player. In fact, I beleive I was investigated within the first three night phases of my very first game. And that trend continued for a while - MH looked into me N2 of his very first larger game in Over-9000. And in hindsight, it may have been somewhat of a blessing that I died that night, because he was an insane investigator, and got a scum result on me. Had he brought that out against me, it may have been hard to fight it - I may have even had to get MLT - or Anti, who I had recruited that night - to back me up, therefore outing a member of my mason group, and, yeah, that wouldn't have been good. I believe Pet also looked into me N1 or N2 of a Micro game shortly after this.

All of these times, I was town. I had mixed feelings about this. For one, I kind of liked being scummy. It made me less of a target, and allowed me to work without having to worry, and in a way, it kind of made me think I was just taking after Arrows in that regard. But at the same time, I hated that cops were always wasting investigations on me. As well as this, I knew that when I finally did draw scum, this stigma was going to haunt me. Though, strangely enough I avoided it as Sith in SW3 - then again, I was a Cult Leader, I don't know if I came up town or not, though I don't recall it saying so in my Role PM - it did come up eventually in DBZ.

Really hated that, because it seems like no matter how hard you fight - and as I think I proved in that game, I'm willing to fight to the death - no matter how solid your logic is when compared to detractors - looking at you, Anti ;) - it seems like you can't really beat a scum result...

Suffice to say, when I drew the Don role in CFC, this kind of came to mind... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_uSlEEPSk&feature=related) :D

[Zeel1]

then again, I was a Cult Leader

Well, sort of... :p

[Imarevenant]

Well, sort of... :p

You were intended to be more of a two man SK group :p

[Antithesis]

Intrigued we haven't lynched Astil yet... or you, for that matter. :cool:

Random thoughts:

1. Destiny is very active this game. I've observed that when he's town he tends to be more quiet than when he's scum (although he is quiet all of the time compared against the average poster).

My theory is that this is probably because when he knows he's town and thus feels he can stand up to intense questioning at some point he feels more comfortable withholding information. As scum, he feels the need to be more active early in an effort to eliminate himself as a suspect when the vote totals are high.

Even if one does something suspicious at the beginning of the game, not getting lynched is a likely result and at that point one can go several phases before being pressured again. My estimation would be that Destiny realized this.

As such, my current thoughts are that Destiny is scum.

No proof yet.

2. MNN is okay, obviously. MH is probably okay although I'd prefer not to go into details on that at this time.

3. Tha Black Phenom And/OR Comradebot are scum. I'm leaning toward the OR at this point but the ANDwouldn't be surprising to me.

4. Astil is indy most likely, but outright scum or scum leaning indy wouldn't surprise me. I'd like to lynch him ASAP.

5. Bluestar doesn't sit well with me. I don't know why yet, but I'll find out.

6. I think there is a slightly greater than 50% chance Antithesis is scum, but only slightly and depending on what happens tonight that thought process might change.

What have I done to deserve to get lynched? Besides you don't lynch multiple time Scummy Award Winners until at least day 8 anyway. :D

1) Motives change from game to game, as does the amount someone contributes. Not defending Destiny, but it could be the flack he caught in CFC has had an impact. Or, as you've pointed out, could be he just wants us to think that. Time will tell.

2) No one is ever "okay" in games with possible multiple scum groups. Easiest thing in the worlkd for scum to do is serve up rival scum for a lynch and try to appear town as a result. Not saying thats the case with MNN. Just know that there are plenty of reasons for scum to lynch other scum.

3-6. Not really sure why you'd think some folks who post a lot would be scum. Maybe its the Bak vote. But then again, I pushed for that, while C-bot defended him. Though could be an elaborate ploy I suppose.

7. Surprised you didn't mention MJ, who I think is just doing enough to stay in the picture until the more doubtful folks get eliminated. Then again this could just be one of those games MJD decided to work on his survival ratio, and feign scumminess to the end. You never can tell about him.

[Glotnot]

Heck no. Entire role PMs are out of the question, I'd believe.

Cough...it happened in one game on Neoseeker, I believe.

Didn't exactly get the best reception, but it happened.

There were some weird mechanics to it, I don't remember exactly, but it had to be done during the day and yadda yadda. It was in Anime Mafia.

How did I get to be Hayden Pannetierre (sp?)? I look and act nothing like her. :)

I think Astil is probably indy. I just think that there is also the possibility he's scum, and almost no possibility he's town. I also think that his play style makes it unlikely he's pressured again in the near future. So it's better to just get rid of him nowish. Better safe than sorry, and if he really is indy that would have helped us then we lose comparatively little against a mis-lynch. The probability that he's town is negligible, so meh. :cool:

I also think it (his death) will yield some useful information that I don't want to share at this time.

I don't....I don't understand.

I mean, I can understand people wanting to lynch Astil at this point, yeah, I'm quite nearing that point where I'll start advocating the lynch myself.

But honestly, I mean, just...

Your reasons for it.

There's the possibility he's scum, okay, I'm with you.

And there's almost no possibility he's town, yeah. He claimed indy.

But you don't appear to have paid any attention at all to what he claimed.

An indy player can be aligned with the town, your mindset of "So what if his goal could theoretically be the death of a major scum player, he's indy, doesn't matter" is entirely I can't think of a word it's making my head explode.

I'm at the point where I think a little suspicion on Astil could be good, yeah, but not when it's like this, this is just, it has no reason or logic behind it, it's calling up Astil's name for the sake of calling it up, lynching someone just so we can say we lynched someone, you don't have an actual reason other than "Well, he isn't TOWN, so, yeah" without stopping to even think gah.

I mean everyone calling up Astil's name with this is either scum or Town and just desperately wanting to be the one's to "uncover" scum so they'll take the easiest shot with the lowest risk of nailing an actual Townie by aiming at the guy who claimed indy even though he's I'm talking in circles now.

I mean there's a difference between not believing his claim and just ignoring it, and that's what you're doing.

It's like you read "I'm indy and my goal is to help the town" and you stopped reading at "indy", and it's like, that's not good, or cool, I mean if I said "I'm going to give you a bar of gold but if you take it I get to shoot you" and you stopped listening after "I'm going to give you a bar of gold" I think you'd really regret it afterwards.

I mean urghhhhh.

Can i Just request, in an attempt to stop this from eating everything, if we're going to bring up Astil as a candidate for lynch can we have an actual reason?

I mean if people just don't believe him at this point, that's cool, but just not stuff like what I'm responding to, please.

[Glotnot]

I mean seriously it's like everyone bringing it up is using the same bogus reason and it's mildly suspicious.

[Antithesis]

It can be a dangerous line to cross, when you're always sticking your neck out as town, and as scum are trying to act the same way. Take MJ, for example. There were times where he seemed to take risks - going "all in" on the SO result, for one thing. When I tried to ask him to tone it down, he simply replied that it was how he always played, and he wanted to stay consistent - and rightly so, you don't really want people to notice changes in your style.

I'm actually another example of this. I very quickly cemented myself as a generally scummy player. In fact, I beleive I was investigated within the first three night phases of my very first game. And that trend continued for a while - MH looked into me N2 of his very first larger game in Over-9000. And in hindsight, it may have been somewhat of a blessing that I died that night, because he was an insane investigator, and got a scum result on me. Had he brought that out against me, it may have been hard to fight it - I may have even had to get MLT - or Anti, who I had recruited that night - to back me up, therefore outing a member of my mason group, and, yeah, that wouldn't have been good. I believe Pet also looked into me N1 or N2 of a Micro game shortly after this.

All of these times, I was town. I had mixed feelings about this. For one, I kind of liked being scummy. It made me less of a target, and allowed me to work without having to worry, and in a way, it kind of made me think I was just taking after Arrows in that regard. But at the same time, I hated that cops were always wasting investigations on me. As well as this, I knew that when I finally did draw scum, this stigma was going to haunt me. Though, strangely enough I avoided it as Sith in SW3 - then again, I was a Cult Leader, I don't know if I came up town or not, though I don't recall it saying so in my Role PM - it did come up eventually in DBZ.

Really hated that, because it seems like no matter how hard you fight - and as I think I proved in that game, I'm willing to fight to the death - no matter how solid your logic is when compared to detractors - looking at you, Anti ;) - it seems like you can't really beat a scum result...

Suffice to say, when I drew the Don role in CFC, this kind of came to mind... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_uSlEEPSk&feature=related) :D

Ahh ya did alright, problem was your arguments were only valid if you were town aligned. We both knew you weren't. :p

[MichiganHero]

2.MH is probably okay although I'd prefer not to go into details on that at this time.


I would like to hear why I am probably okay.

[MichiganHero]

I would like to hear why I am probably okay.

EBWOP : Even though I have gave the most important part of my role.

[BHK1978]

EBWOP : Even though I have gave the most important part of my role.

Dude you are Scum just based on the fact that you wrote EBWOP in a post! BHK does not want to be forced to look up acronyms!:mad::p

[MichiganHero]

Dude you are Scum just based on the fact that you wrote EBWOP in a post! BHK does not want to be forced to look up acronyms!:mad::p

Shhh! It makes me look smart. :p

[Comradebot]

Dude you are Scum just based on the fact that you wrote EBWOP in a post! BHK does not want to be forced to look up acronyms!:mad::p

I think that's Shredder's henchman from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles that reguarly teamed up with the dude who was a rhino. You know, the pig guy.

[SmartBomb]

Kobe.... :(

Leaning towards MH as possibly town, Anti as probably town. And me? Probably scum. Destiny has given more information that some of the people in this game. Look into those guys, then Destiny.

gg's on the lynch, btw. Olivier's probably paranoid, unless masterded had some weird Don-ness going on.

[Destiny]

1) Motives change from game to game, as does the amount someone contributes. Not defending Destiny, but it could be the flack he caught in CFC has had an impact. Or, as you've pointed out, could be he just wants us to think that. Time will tell.



This. Like I've already said, I've got a terrible ability in this game, and so am focusing on helping the town as much as I can in the game thread, as I've also already mentioned.

[Jman2k3]

I think that's Shredder's henchman from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles that reguarly teamed up with the dude who was a rhino. You know, the pig guy.

It's Bebop. ;)

[Destiny]

I believe that it's around five hours until the night phase is over, and I will likely be online in order to see the write-up before I go out this evening.

[MichiganHero]

I believe that it's around five hours until the night phase is over, and I will likely be online in order to see the write-up before I go out this evening.

Where you going tonight, oh wonderful Mentor o' mine?

[Destiny]

Somewhere exotic. :cool: No, I'm just going out for a few drinks and then to a local jazz performance.

[MichiganHero]

Somewhere exotic. :cool: No, I'm just going out for a few drinks and then to a local jazz performance.

Zexy.

[Destiny]

Thanks, I'm quite looking forward to it. What did you think of my use of the smiley? I was trying to be fun-loving.

[MichiganHero]

Thanks, I'm quite looking forward to it. What did you think of my use of the smiley? I was trying to be fun-loving.

MORE! MORE! MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!
The old Destiny is re-emerging. :D

[Destiny]

Yeah Baby I'm Glad You're Liking It! I'm Going To Totally Rock This Game Come Day Phase!

[Tha Black Phenom]

This is just too weird for me to behold. Like, my mind = blown.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Cough...it happened in one game on Neoseeker, I believe.

Didn't exactly get the best reception, but it happened.

There were some weird mechanics to it, I don't remember exactly, but it had to be done during the day and yadda yadda. It was in Anime Mafia.


Yes, that weird Day Cop or whatever. Worst thing is, I re-enacted that ish with a one-shot item on my next game.

Should never go to that extent again.

I'm also comfortable with keeping Astil in for the time being. He's played ball and the only reason at this point you'd wanna get rid of him is that you feel he may be of harm to you...

[MichiganHero]

Yeah Baby I'm Glad You're Liking It! I'm Going To Totally Rock This Game Come Day Phase!

My mind has just been blown. Destiny, welcome to your new mafia role.

Destiny has changed his gimmick to Fun Babyface. The change was a great success!

[Zeel1]

Yeah Baby I'm Glad You're Liking It! I'm Going To Totally Rock This Game Come Day Phase!

Dear God, he's been hacked! :p

[MichiganHero]

Dear God, he's been hacked! :p

You're just zeelous.

[Zeel1]

You're just zeelous.

How can you be this calm when your mentor has clearly been replaced?!

Who knows where the real one is... he's probably chained up in some basement somewhere... scared and alone! :(

[Paws7297]

Users currently viewing thread:

Comradebot+, Midnightnick, Paws7297, Zeel1

C-Bot taking four minutes to make a relatively short/simple reply early on in the game stands out to me for some reason. His commentary with Phenom (while insubstantial) also strikes me as odd/off. The probability that they are both scum is just over 20%... high considering that there are more than 25 players still in the game and that little has given much information.

I haven't looked closely at Paws yet. I still have residual town thoughts associated with her from last game and am not yet capable of being objective when it comes to her.

I have thoughts on zeel1, but won't share them at this time.
I'm pretty sure I was not looking at the thread when that was posted, or I must have been just leaving. BTW, I can't even see bold font.
Can easily happen on day phase regardless.

I mean hell, you type your main points in bold constantly which is already much, what more do you want to stand out? A 300x300 avatar?



No one is gonna bother protecting the one who runs her mouth every night. If you get popped, it's gonna be on yourself. Protectors have their own guys in mind to protect.

We have investigators out there, characters hinted at left and right. IF there's someone out there who can protect after bak, they'll protect those who are in actual danger. Likely possibility? I think not. Why would they go after a less high profile target to begin with?

Watched? Possibly. If you're wrong about everything though, scum won't target you and it's gonna be for nothing, while again, there are viable targets to be checked out there. Power players, power roles.



:cool:



Yeah, I heard all about that....
I've tried a 300x300 avatar. The site shrinks them down to 100x100 :( I would know since I change mine 3 times a week. :cool:

[moon_lit_tears]

Yeah Baby I'm Glad You're Liking It! I'm Going To Totally Rock This Game Come Day Phase!

I approve this post....That is all...Back to bed.

[MichiganHero]

How can you be this calm when your mentor has clearly been replaced?!

Who knows where the real one is... he's probably chained up in some basement somewhere... scared and alone! :(

we have unlocked the FLAVAAH OF LIFE ~ that Destiny kept hidden.

[Jaded]

If I SHOULD happen to die tonight - fingers crossed I don't - town, do me a favour and try to figure out what I was doing night 2, then look at my posts after that. Should help.

[Imarevenant]

How can you be this calm when your mentor has clearly been replaced?!

Who knows where the real one is... he's probably chained up in some basement somewhere... scared and alone! :(

Well Alone at least, the real Destiny has no emotion...

[Comradebot]

So.... shouldn't night phase be over?

The waiting is making me all antsy. Wonder if that has anything to do with actual ants... antsy... I guess being swarmed with ants would make one nervous... hmm...

[SuperOwens]

gg's on the lynch, btw. Olivier's probably paranoid, unless masterded had some weird Don-ness going on.

How would OLF being paranoid have anything to do with Masterded being a don. Or vice versa?

[Destiny]

I'm not sure. I think SmartBomb just got a little confused, and perhaps thought that Midnightnick was also claiming to be a standard investigator. I'm not sure why the night phase isn't over yet. I want to show my FLAVAAH OF LIFE ~

[MichiganHero]

I'm not sure. I think SmartBomb just got a little confused, and perhaps thought that Midnightnick was also claiming to be a standard investigator. I'm not sure why the night phase isn't over yet. I want to show my FLAVAAH OF LIFE ~

YES. Destiny, you have embraced the FLAVAAH OF LIFE ~
Now let's see those people call you boring!

[Undertaker666]

Bit late I know, my apologies.

Nightphase is over, writeup to follow soon.

[Destiny]

I'm obviously glad that the night phase is now over and hope that the town can learn a lot during this upcoming phase.

[Comradebot]

I'm obviously glad that the night phase is now over and hope that the town can learn a lot during this upcoming phase.

Normally, I'd say "scum" to a post like this.

Then I remember it's you :p

[Undertaker666]

Night 3

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There was a knock on the door. 'Yes?', but there was no reply. Cautiously he opened the door... he chuckled to himself, 'You're adorable!'.

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The man heard someone outside his room, so he opened the door. 'Pardon the intrusion, sir, but I couldn't help but notice that you have the most wonderfully coiffed hair I've ever seen! Would you mind telling me how you keep it looking so immaculate?'

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He sat on the edge of the bed, waiting for the right time to go out. A figure slipped in through the open window and silently crept up behind the man. Wrapping his cheese-wire around his victim's throat, it was over in no time at all. 'Too easy.'.

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Maybe he just didn't have what it takes any more? He decided to get some rest so he could tackle tomorrow with renewed vigour.

Twenty minutes later and he was sound asleep. Unfortunately he wasn't woken by the man entering the room. His wild eyes widened with joy as he poured a liquid over the sleeping man, burning his face off.

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'Damn, where's my back up? He knew we were coming here tonight.'. The man banged on the door, 'Police, open up', but there was no reply. He kicked opened the door and began searching the room for clues. 'Gotcha'.

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He approached the room and noticed the door ajar. Drawing his gun, he rushed inside. There lay the lifeless corpse of his friend. 'Oh God no.'. He sat in silence for what seemed like hours, but was in fact only minutes. He could feel the anger consuming him. 'I'll get 'em for ya, if it's the last thing I do!'.

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The man gripped his weapon tightly and burst through the door where he found the occupant looking startled. 'Ahhh, excuse me, miss. I was looking for someone else. Sorry about the door...', and with that he exited the room.

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A noise woke the man from his sleep. Noticing his door open, he quickly grabbed his gun. Everything seemed to be in order... but then he heard a noise coming from the closet. Cautiously opening the door he was startled to find someone in there. 'You aren't going to hurt me are you?', the girl asked timidly.

'Sorry, honey.', as he pressed his gun against her head. *bang*

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The figure crashed through the door and scanned the room for it's intended victim, but it was nowhere to be found.

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mjdgoldeneye is dead, he was Eddie "The Hudson Hawk" Hawkins, Good Aligned Master Thief
Zeel1 is dead, he was Roger Murtaugh, Good Aligned Too Old For This *poop* Cop
MichiganHero is dead, he was Newt, Good Aligned Elusive Child

Role pm's to follow shortly.

[Comradebot]

Balls.

[MichiganHero]

Balls.

QFT.

[Comradebot]

Looks like MH (figured he was Newt when he said he was a hider and from Aliens, the role title he gave confirmed it... doubly by his corpse) targetted scum last night while trying to hide.

Acid killer struck again.

Guy with cheesewire (Christ, I know this one... on the tip of my tongue...), guess he's the replacement for Dr. Evil.

[Inadvertant]

Sonuva.....bad night for town :(

Anyone got any ideas where we should start on this one?

I myself am going to go back and re-read all three night write ups to compare them against each other.....and I would re-read posts and what not from the previous days, but that's over 200 pages >.>

[Comradebot]

Sonuva.....bad night for town :(

Anyone got any ideas where we should start on this one?

I myself am going to go back and re-read all three night write ups to compare them against each other.....and I would re-read posts and what not from the previous days, but that's over 200 pages >.>

I'm justing waiting on it to be officially day phase... but I have an idea. Probably a wrong one, but an idea never-the-less.

[Midnightnick]

Re-post with better grammar:

It's certainly possible MNN is scum. His silence in response to the statements I've made concerning him so far doesn't really support my declaration of him as town, but I'm willing to dismiss that for now.

More importantly, however, by helping us catch scum so early then if he's scum it's brought him surprisingly little goodwill. If he doesn't continue to be useful then it will stand out much more so than if he hadn't said anything at all. It's basically essential that he continues to produce results. Making this play as a scum late in the game could have actually really benefited his survival, but now if he's scum he must either continue to implicate his buddies or else draw attention to himself since people will be expecting results.

"I got blocked" only works 1-2 times in my mind, although to be fair if MNN is town then a smart scum could block him multiple times with the dual purpose of preventing him from giving the town useful info and also ultimately nudging him in the direction of being mis-lynched (for the reasoning I listed above).

Heh.

I haven't got blocked yet because I only used my ability once, as it's every other night. :rolleyes:, Also. Do you expect me to go yay someone thinks I'm town? That makes me look like scum as all hell. I want you to think I'm good because I am good :cool:

It's not his scum buddies I think he's implicated.

But then, he's renowned for doing that, so I can't put it past that either. The possibility that worries me, currently, is him being a Role Cop that found opposing scum, and lead the charge.

Then again, Mded would be an odd choice for a Role Copping...

I explained, Mded sneaks under the radar. I showed exactly what happens when you be proactive with those types of players.

Okay.. that explains it.

But heck, with this being night phase.. remember the only one making loud drum beats at night is you. :p

Bingo~

Also in the night write up. Notice no screaming?

[Comradebot]

Also in the night write up. Notice no screaming?

/nod

Just a weird thought... but in most Dracula stuff, doesn't offing him tend to turn all the other vampires human again? Just a random thought, it'd be a strange if unique mechanic. Gonna say "no" to it though, as he was relatively easy to string up... or stake...

[iMac]

Wow that was brutal. :(

[Antithesis]

MH.. either targetted scum or a PGO. Thought Zeel said he was pretty much safe. A dangerous fib with other people claiming hiders, bulletproof, Nexus etc.

Write up wasn't all bad though.

[hellshock70]

I haven't got blocked yet because I only used my ability once, as it's every other night. :rolleyes:, Also. Do you expect me to go yay someone thinks I'm town? That makes me look like scum as all hell. I want you to think I'm good because I am good :cool:



I explained, Mded sneaks under the radar. I showed exactly what happens when you be proactive with those types of players.



Bingo~

Also in the night write up. Notice no screaming?

No screaming and no blades.

[Comradebot]

No screaming and no blades.

I think we're looking at the same way CFC was set up with the scum, in that they can choose their killer each night. Which is honestly just good balance (no "lulz, I found the killer so let's just block him every night!"). So yeah, I'll bet on the blade killer being red scum, too.

[Antithesis]

I think we're looking at the same way CFC was set up with the scum, in that they can choose their killer each night. Which is honestly just good balance (no "lulz, I found the killer so let's just block him every night!"). So yeah, I'll bet on the blade killer being red scum, too.

So then, is it possible the "scream" was the SK?

Since N2 there are two kills but the "blades" guy's targeted was protected...

[Undertaker666]

All pm's have been sent. If you think you should have one and you don't, send me a pm.

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Jaded]

Right, let's get this going.

Vote: Astil

This is a guy who's claiming a female character. Unfortunately for him, when I roleblocked him nights 2 and 3 (I'm the adorable one, natch.) he's clearly a male.

Lynch All Liars, especially tricky ones like Astil.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Good Lord, how many cops are there.

Is the 'no back-up' part referring to Zeel? Hmm. Probably some character knowledge I'm unaware of. And someone else seems to have turned vengeful.

[Comradebot]

Right, let's get this going.

Vote: Astil

This is a guy who's claiming a female character. Unfortunately for him, when I roleblocked him nights 2 and 3 (I'm the adorable one, natch.) he's clearly a male.

Lynch All Liars, especially tricky ones like Astil.

Interesting...

[Tha Black Phenom]

Right, let's get this going.

Vote: Astil

This is a guy who's claiming a female character. Unfortunately for him, when I roleblocked him nights 2 and 3 (I'm the adorable one, natch.) he's clearly a male.

Lynch All Liars, especially tricky ones like Astil.

...huh.

Wish I coulda got better leads like that. eh.

The floor's back to Astil now, waiting to see what he has to say on this one.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I can't be too surprised. :(

You'd best kill me before I matter. :D

Go town-like sorts of peoples!

[Comradebot]

If Jaded's positive that's him in the write-up then yeah, Astil was lying big time.

My guess? Maybe he's the scummy dude he claimed he was looking for (or in the same scum group), using the knowledge of his existence in the game to know the other folks from that film must be around.

[Antithesis]

If Jaded's positive that's him in the write-up then yeah, Astil was lying big time.

My guess? Maybe he's the scummy dude he claimed he was looking for (or in the same scum group), using the knowledge of his existence in the game to know the other folks from that film must be around.

At this rate you'll be getting that scummy in no time! :p

[Antithesis]

Anyone think the reason C-bot bought bak as a protector was because he has his own?

[Comradebot]

At this rate you'll be getting that scummy in no time! :p

I didn't know there was a Scummie for "townie with the most wild theories", but I guess I'll take it! :D

[Jaded]

If Jaded's positive that's him in the write-up then yeah, Astil was lying big time.

My guess? Maybe he's the scummy dude he claimed he was looking for (or in the same scum group), using the knowledge of his existence in the game to know the other folks from that film must be around.

Ain't no one else as cute as me in this hotel, trust me. :)

[Antithesis]

I didn't know there was a Scummie for "townie with the most wild theories", but I guess I'll take it! :D

Actually UT said its the day phase. What was your theory again?

[Inadvertant]

okay, so if I get this right.

Astil - being looked at a possibly bad for town, still unproven.
MH - I remember someone saying he looked/felt scummy
Glotnot - possibly one of Astil's win conditions
Jaded - I think ye just tootin yer own horn there :P
Destiny - agian, someone said Destiny is scum, I would like elaboration

[Antithesis]

Right, let's get this going.

Vote: Astil

This is a guy who's claiming a female character. Unfortunately for him, when I roleblocked him nights 2 and 3 (I'm the adorable one, natch.) he's clearly a male.

Lynch All Liars, especially tricky ones like Astil.

Who'd ya target N1?

[Comradebot]

Actually UT said its the day phase. What was your theory again?

Oh, right. Got distracted by that silly Jaded and his proof of Astil being a liar, liar with his pants constantly on fire. Get used to that burning, Astil, because Hell is full of fire... and that's where we're sending you.

Anywhooooo


I had a VERY strong reason to believe The Shape was scum. He gave off a scum tell I just so happened to notice a lot of the bad guys let slip up while modding CFC. Something that, 90%ish (I counted!) of the time only scum would do in thread.

Two people are really, really on my scumdar. But one of those two had the same tell as Shape. Obviously isn't proof of anything, but...

Vote: supermareo

I'm about 80% sure you're scum. Again, I could be totally wrong, but with Astil already looking like a lock to swing today, might as well look down some other avenues while we have time.

[Inadvertant]

Who'd ya target N1?

Oh, good question!

*turns a lamp on and shines it around*

Where were ya on that night he mentioned?





I've always wanted to do that....sorry. *turns lamp off and takes a step back*

[Comradebot]

okay, so if I get this right.

Astil - being looked at a possibly bad for town, still unproven.
MH - I remember someone saying he looked/felt scummy
Glotnot - possibly one of Astil's win conditions
Jaded - I think ye just tootin yer own horn there :P
Destiny - agian, someone said Destiny is scum, I would like elaboration

This one is a long running joke. People always say "Destiny is scum", it's fun.

That said, he might actually be scum this time!

[Tha Black Phenom]

okay, so if I get this right.

Astil - being looked at a possibly bad for town, still unproven.
MH - I remember someone saying he looked/felt scummy
Glotnot - possibly one of Astil's win conditions
Jaded - I think ye just tootin yer own horn there :P
Destiny - agian, someone said Destiny is scum, I would like elaboration

Well that's great, see MH is dead :p and I'm pretty sure those who thought Destiny is scum have elaborated. Mostly because of his different play style is all. Though, Des gave away an awful lot about himself, willing to trust him for now.

[Jaded]

Night 3

There was a knock on the door. 'Yes?', but there was no reply. Cautiously he opened the door... he chuckled to himself, 'You're adorable!'.



This is me blocking Astil again.



He sat on the edge of the bed, waiting for the right time to go out. A figure slipped in through the open window and silently crept up behind the man. Wrapping his cheese-wire around his victim's throat, it was over in no time at all. 'Too easy.'.



MJD dying.




Maybe he just didn't have what it takes any more? He decided to get some rest so he could tackle tomorrow with renewed vigour.

Twenty minutes later and he was sound asleep. Unfortunately he wasn't woken by the man entering the room. His wild eyes widened with joy as he poured a liquid over the sleeping man, burning his face off.



Zeel dying.




'Damn, where's my back up? He knew we were coming here tonight.'. The man banged on the door, 'Police, open up', but there was no reply. He kicked opened the door and began searching the room for clues. 'Gotcha'.



Investigator? I don't think this CAN be referring to Zeel, can it? Assuming the write-up takes place chronologically... oh, hang on. Yeah, the back-up who doesn't turn up could be him, sorry.



He approached the room and noticed the door ajar. Drawing his gun, he rushed inside. There lay the lifeless corpse of his friend. 'Oh God no.'. He sat in silence for what seemed like hours, but was in fact only minutes. He could feel the anger consuming him. 'I'll get 'em for ya, if it's the last thing I do!'.



Okay, placed this one, I think.




The man gripped his weapon tightly and burst through the door where he found the occupant looking startled. 'Ahhh, excuse me, miss. I was looking for someone else. Sorry about the door...', and with that he exited the room.



Someone searching for someone?




A noise woke the man from his sleep. Noticing his door open, he quickly grabbed his gun. Everything seemed to be in order... but then he heard a noise coming from the closet. Cautiously opening the door he was startled to find someone in there. 'You aren't going to hurt me are you?', the girl asked timidly.

'Sorry, honey.', as he pressed his gun against her head. [B]*bang*



MH dying by hiding behind scum.


The figure crashed through the door and scanned the room for it's intended victim, but it was nowhere to be found.



Okay... this has me confused. Someone targetting someone who'd already died, maybe? Or someone targetting MH and not being able to find him.

[Inadvertant]

This one is a long running joke. People always say "Destiny is scum", it's fun.

That said, he might actually be scum this time!

oh, lol. that's what i get for being the new guy :P

[Tha Black Phenom]

Oh nvm Inadvertant, forgot you were trying to trace back those who said so about him.

Well, the reason he's been looked at scummy is for being one of the last voters in the bak lynch. Can't really fault them for that, although Astil was one of them(!) so that may be a factor we'll soon find out.

[Jaded]

Who'd ya target N1?

Superowens, on a shot in the dark.

[Undertaker666]

Vote:

Astil: 1 (Jaded)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Jaded]

Jaded - I think ye just tootin yer own horn there :P


Oh heck yeah! Please note, in about a year of mafia, this is the second useful thing I've done as a townie! (The first being in Darkwing Duck.)

You'd better believe I'm boasting about it. :)

[Tha Black Phenom]

Superowens, on a shot in the dark.

You don't... have anything else to your role, right? Just asking.

[Jaded]

You don't... have anything else to your role, right? Just asking.

Not that I know of, and not that I'd expect to have. Standard roleblocker.

[Teh_Showtime]

Another bad night for the town

I was suspicious of Jaded prior to today but he looks like a good guy

[Inadvertant]

So, we are assuming MH hid behind scum as the only logical reason for his death?

Also, I was curious what makes Supermareo scummy? If it will give away anything on the town side, don't. Just....vaguely hint and I'll try to pick up on your fancy slang XD

[Imarevenant]

So, we are assuming MH hid behind scum as the only logical reason for his death?

Also, I was curious what makes Supermareo scummy? If it will give away anything on the town side, don't. Just....vaguely hint and I'll try to pick up on your fancy slang XD

He could have targeted a PGO as well. The write up doesn't really lean one way or the other too heavily though.

[Comradebot]

So, we are assuming MH hid behind scum as the only logical reason for his death?

Also, I was curious what makes Supermareo scummy? If it will give away anything on the town side, don't. Just....vaguely hint and I'll try to pick up on your fancy slang XD

He approaches the person who kills him... so either scum offed him when he tried to hide behind them (a common mechanic for hiders) or he hit a PGO. Willing to be there's more scum in the game than PGOs, and the killer seemed pretty calm about killing her. No "oh snap! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!" that PGOs tend to have.


As for mareo... just a scum tell. He did something in thread that, from my recent experience, mostly scum do. Townies on rare occaisons, but again, mostly scum. Can't really go into more detail than that.

[Inadvertant]

He could have targeted a PGO as well. The write up doesn't really lean one way or the other too heavily though.

Regardless, I'd like to know who he targetted. If it's a PGO, then the rest of town needs to know not to target. If scum? Then I'd say MH had the right idea, wrong intention.

For clarification, a PGO is not a one shot, correct?

[Antithesis]

So, we are assuming MH hid behind scum as the only logical reason for his death?

Also, I was curious what makes Supermareo scummy? If it will give away anything on the town side, don't. Just....vaguely hint and I'll try to pick up on your fancy slang XD

MH maybe, if one assumes its a Hider that dies when targetting scum (not all do).

Could just as easily assume he targetted the PGO (assuming there is a PGO this game).

All I can recall about SM is that he's been very quiet. Which, by this point in the game, probably either means he has a throwaway role or he's scum.

I do wonder though, i recall D1, Cbot didn't seem interested in Astil then, nor does he seem interested now. If Astil does turn up as scum...

[Comradebot]

Regardless, I'd like to know who he targetted. If it's a PGO, then the rest of town needs to know not to target. If scum? Then I'd say MH had the right idea, wrong intention.

For clarification, a PGO is not a one shot, correct?

Not on GDS, no. Though it has been a subject of some debate, particularly after Arrows (as a PGO) killed, like... four scum within two nights. I can cause some serious inbalances in the "slaughters all who approach" form. And some serious hilarity.

[Inadvertant]

He approaches the person who kills him... so either scum offed him when he tried to hide behind them (a common mechanic for hiders) or he hit a PGO. Willing to be there's more scum in the game than PGOs, and the killer seemed pretty calm about killing her. No "oh snap! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!" that PGOs tend to have.


As for mareo... just a scum tell. He did something in thread that, from my recent experience, mostly scum do. Townies on rare occaisons, but again, mostly scum. Can't really go into more detail than that.

Fair enough Comradebot, I won't ask and from what I can tell, you seem on the level so I'll trust you. At this moment, however, I am mostly focused on tracking down what happened to MH, whether he hid with scum, or found a PGO.

Also, though, I'm still rather curious about this whole Astil the Crossdresser thing....by that I mean he claimed to be a woman (according to Jaded) and is in fact a man. Jaded, can you quote where Astil said he was a woman?

[MichiganHero]

Regardless, I'd like to know who he targetted. If it's a PGO, then the rest of town needs to know not to target. If scum? Then I'd say MH had the right idea, wrong intention.

For clarification, a PGO is not a one shot, correct?

Last post from me.
I ain't gonna tell ya. It ruins the game IMO. I targeted someone and died. So by way of rules I can't tell.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Not that I know of, and not that I'd expect to have. Standard roleblocker.

Hmm.

He approaches the person who kills him... so either scum offed him when he tried to hide behind them (a common mechanic for hiders) or he hit a PGO. Willing to be there's more scum in the game than PGOs, and the killer seemed pretty calm about killing her. No "oh snap! BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!" that PGOs tend to have.

Even though that could be quite ambiguous, I'd agree there's a fair chance of him hitting scum.

Regardless, I'd like to know who he targetted. If it's a PGO, then the rest of town needs to know not to target. If scum? Then I'd say MH had the right idea, wrong intention.

For clarification, a PGO is not a one shot, correct?

And render the PGO useless? No thanks. This is part of the risk factor in mafia games. The PGO outs himself and he's useless. We keep him hidden and scum may eventually target him.

For whatever reason you seem so focused on this matter, I could tell you there's a strong chance MH targeted scum anyway.

[Imarevenant]

He claimed to be DQ from Shoot Em Up.

This is DQ:

http://blog.alism.com/wp-content/2007/09/shoot-em-up.jpg

[Antithesis]

Vote: Astil

Always had my doubts. I believe Jaded more than I believe Astil.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Last post from me.
I ain't gonna tell ya. It ruins the game IMO. I targeted someone and died. So by way of rules I can't tell.

I think that was fairly obvious, but thanks. :p

[Antithesis]

He claimed to be DQ from Shoot Em Up.

This is DQ:

http://blog.alism.com/wp-content/2007/09/shoot-em-up.jpg

Now I gotta ask why it is you just have that picture sitting around.... And to think you have kids!!! :p

[Antithesis]

Well I gotta jet for now... job interview. bbl

[Destiny]

Good luck in the job interview Antithesis. Also, at the risk of it looking like I'm still just following your every word, Vote: Astil.

[Undertaker666]

Vote:

Astil: 3 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Undertaker666]

He claimed to be DQ from Shoot Em Up.

This is DQ:

http://blog.alism.com/wp-content/2007/09/shoot-em-up.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/icon_smiley-face-drool.gif

[Inadvertant]

He claimed to be DQ from Shoot Em Up.

This is DQ:

http://blog.alism.com/wp-content/2007/09/shoot-em-up.jpg

I thought he said he was Mr. Smith and needed to find DQ so together they could off Karl Hertz? I could be wrong.

For whatever reason you seem so focused on this matter, I could tell you there's a strong chance MH targeted scum anyway.

Just trying to make sure I got my facts straight, as I finally have some time to read/think/make posts (In case you all didn't know, I am seperating from active service in the next 6 days, so I've been rather busy with administrative issues and personal dealings).


On a different note, I am 75.6% certain as to who MH tried to hide behind, and ergo how he died. So yes, I want to know whether they are scum or a PGO. Of course, that's not factoring human error in reading posts/write ups, lol.

[Inadvertant]

Well I gotta jet for now... job interview. bbl

Good luck!

[hellshock70]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/icon_smiley-face-drool.gif

Indeed

[Comradebot]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/icon_smiley-face-drool.gif

Indeed

Do you two need to take turns alone in the thread? :p

[Imarevenant]

I thought he said he was Mr. Smith and needed to find DQ so together they could off Karl Hertz? I could be wrong.



Just trying to make sure I got my facts straight, as I finally have some time to read/think/make posts (In case you all didn't know, I am seperating from active service in the next 6 days, so I've been rather busy with administrative issues and personal dealings).


On a different note, I am 75.6% certain as to who MH tried to hide behind, and ergo how he died. So yes, I want to know whether they are scum or a PGO. Of course, that's not factoring human error in reading posts/write ups, lol.

Here you go:

I am D.Q. Quintano, Self Aligned Hertz Hunter

I have to find Mr. Smith

I have to kill Karl Hertz

AND I CAN'T READ

First mistake: I figured D.Q. Quintano was the badass dude on the movie poster. No.

Second mistake: Paraphrasing but my PM said "You target someone. You learn if they are Mr. Smith. Then the next night you may try to kill Karl Hertz." I glossed over the different names and well ... didn't even realize it was a different name.

My win is for Karl to be dead.

To hunt Karl I need Mr. Smith

And

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit ! This whole thing was for nothing. /Headdesk.

[BHK1978]

Well it looks like I could be wrong about Jaded and if I am that is cool because I would rather have Jaded be town then have him be Scum.

Now if Astil truly is Scum, where does Glot fit into this picture? Do you think he and Astil planned this all a long (I doubt it because it is a very risky move to make)? Or is Astil lying and Glot is town and had no clue?

What do you think about last nights deaths? MH maybe hid behind Scum or a PGO.

Now the other two deaths could be a Scum and SK kill. However, look at who the two are that died last night. And think about CFC, they were both on the same Scum team. Could this be a case of revenge?

Just food for thought.

[Jaded]

Well it looks like I could be wrong about Jaded and if I am that is cool because I would rather have Jaded be town then have him be Scum.



Thanks. Personally, I'd rather BE scum, given my record as town, but at least I'm vaguely useful at the moment for once.



Now if Astil truly is Scum, where does Glot fit into this picture? Do you think he and Astil planned this all a long (I doubt it because it is a very risky move to make)? Or is Astil lying and Glot is town and had no clue?



I'd put money on Astil being Hertz, personally. Possibly indy with a win condition to find Smith on one night and kill him the next. (Except he couldn't do that because this awesome cute thing kept roleblocking him...)

I think Glot may well be on the up and up, he seemed to be confused after night one when he was apparently legitimately expecting Astil, as DQ, to hook up with him.

[Comradebot]

Now if Astil truly is Scum, where does Glot fit into this picture? Do you think he and Astil planned this all a long (I doubt it because it is a very risky move to make)? Or is Astil lying and Glot is town and had no clue?


Best question asked this phase.

If Glot's scum, then it was an interesting gamble on their parts. That said, I also like my theory that Astil simply fabricated a fake claim on account of knowing Hertz was in the game, meaning Mr. Smith was likely in it, too. Or something along those lines.

Hard to think of any way that Astil is healthy for us... every theory I can think up where that's the case seems to be flawed.

But hey, what did I say? If Astil was lying, he would be found out soon enough! Sure, we could've gone ahead and lynched him then and probably turned out fine, but that's hindsight for ya. Had it turned out he was telling the truth, it would've worked out even better for us.

[BHK1978]

We could be dealing with:

Cult: Masterded
Scum: The Shape's group
SK: Astil?

Didn't Astil say he would become vanilla if he killed his target?

If that is the case, I wonder if he is telling the truth partly about his role. Meaning, yes he has to kill someone in order to not become vanilla but leave the game all together. If that is the case, I always thought that was the best way to handle the SK role. Because you give the SK a chance to win.

Now I could be wrong (as I often am) but who knows maybe I am right.

[Destiny]

If Astil is scum, which I am assuming he is now due to Jaded's evidence, I can't see Glotnot being scum as well.

[BHK1978]

If Astil is scum, which I am assuming he is now due to Jaded's evidence, I can't see Glotnot being scum as well.

So Don Destiny did your protege try to hid behind you last night, and that is the reason for his death?:eek:

[Destiny]

I don't believe that MichiganHero tried to hide behind me last night, no. Even if he did, there is no reason why he should die, as I am not scum.

[Undertaker666]

Do you two need to take turns alone in the thread? :p

A cold shower sorted me out. :cool:

[BHK1978]

I don't believe that MichiganHero tried to hide behind me last night, no. Even if he did, there is no reason why he should die, as I am not scum.

I was just joking with you anyway, I mean you know me I could not pass up that joke.:D

Now to go back to being serious, does anyone else have iMac on thier radar. Now he is not posting a lot but that does not mean anything as that is part of his game and all though I have made jokes about it in the past, I do respect the way he plays and I often wish I could play that way.

The thing that strikes me about him is when he does post, his posts are lacking (for lack of a better word). What I mean is yes he does not normally post all that much as town or scum. However, when he is town his posts usually have more substance to them. In this game not so much, he seems to be throwing down votes and not say much. And he even had the most Destiny like post in the game thus far (You know before Destiny decided to show his FLAVAAH OF LIFE.), something is rotten in Denmark in regards to him and I think he might just be Scum.

All though I will say that I made the same arguement about Jaded and he seems to be on the up and up for now. So prehaps I am wrong once again.

Oh and Superowens is totally Scum this game, I feel the need to throw that out there each phase just in case anybody forgets my stance towards him in this game.:D

[Inadvertant]

Here you go:

Thank you. So I was wrong, he is claiming to be DQ. In that case, it does look bad for him.

[Glotnot]

/nod

Just a weird thought... but in most Dracula stuff, doesn't offing him tend to turn all the other vampires human again? Just a random thought, it'd be a strange if unique mechanic. Gonna say "no" to it though, as he was relatively easy to string up... or stake...

When I brought that up, everyone seemed to think it wouldn't happen.

Right, let's get this going.

Vote: Astil

This is a guy who's claiming a female character. Unfortunately for him, when I roleblocked him nights 2 and 3 (I'm the adorable one, natch.) he's clearly a male.

Lynch All Liars, especially tricky ones like Astil.

See, THAT'S a reason to want to lynch Astil.


I'd put money on Astil being Hertz, personally. Possibly indy with a win condition to find Smith on one night and kill him the next. (Except he couldn't do that because this awesome cute thing kept roleblocking him...)

I think Glot may well be on the up and up, he seemed to be confused after night one when he was apparently legitimately expecting Astil, as DQ, to hook up with him.

I've been wondering why no one's tried to kill me. Since I seem to die in every other game.

Best question asked this phase.

If Glot's scum, then it was an interesting gamble on their parts. That said, I also like my theory that Astil simply fabricated a fake claim on account of knowing Hertz was in the game, meaning Mr. Smith was likely in it, too. Or something along those lines.

Hard to think of any way that Astil is healthy for us... every theory I can think up where that's the case seems to be flawed.

But hey, what did I say? If Astil was lying, he would be found out soon enough! Sure, we could've gone ahead and lynched him then and probably turned out fine, but that's hindsight for ya. Had it turned out he was telling the truth, it would've worked out even better for us.

Yup. I'm Town.

*waves Town badge*

[Glotnot]

Also this.

Vote: Astil

I've only been defending him because if there's someone with an ability designed specifically to hunt a scum member and only a scum member, then that's a role we want to keep.

But he's lying, so yeah.

[Undertaker666]

Vote:

Astil: 4 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Inadvertant]

Also this.

Vote: Astil

I've only been defending him because if there's someone with an ability designed specifically to hunt a scum member and only a scum member, then that's a role we want to keep.

But he's lying, so yeah.

How do we know he is lying?

I don't believe that MichiganHero tried to hide behind me last night, no. Even if he did, there is no reason why he should die, as I am not scum.

I know that MichiganHero hid behind you last night.

Astil, I believe, is being mostly honest with us.
Destiny, I am 99% certain is scum.

[Inadvertant]

Now, I am off for a few moments to grab some food from good ol' Outback Steakhouse (yey? stuff's expensive).


also this

Vote: Destiny

[Glotnot]

How do we know he is lying?



'Cause he said he was a hot chick and he's a dude.

[Glotnot]

'Cause he said he was a hot chick and he's a dude.

It's like WoW.

[BHK1978]

How do we know he is lying?



I know that MichiganHero hid behind you last night.

Astil, I believe, is being mostly honest with us.
Destiny, I am 99% certain is scum.

We don't know 100% that he is lying. It is just someone has roleblocked him for two nights, Glot has yet to meet him. I think there is enough circumstantial evidence around Astil that says he probably did not tell us the truth.

Are you certain that MH hid behind Destiny last night? Because I was joking when I asked him. Do you have a reason to believe what you said to be true?

[Undertaker666]

Vote:

Astil: 4 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 1 (Inadvertant)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[BHK1978]

'Cause he said he was a hot chick and he's a dude.

Oh and that too.

[BlueStar]

Right, let's get this going.

Vote: Astil

This is a guy who's claiming a female character. Unfortunately for him, when I roleblocked him nights 2 and 3 (I'm the adorable one, natch.) he's clearly a male.

Lynch All Liars, especially tricky ones like Astil.

I told you all this from D1. Indy distractions should be taken care of from the start, or just let be for nothing. Now we have townies wasting abilities on them.

This was a bad night...another 2 kills + a hider targetting a wrong person.

[BHK1978]

Might as well vote because like I said there is enough circumstantial evidence around Astil to believe that his claim is not up to par.

Vote: Astil

[Antithesis]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/icon_smiley-face-drool.gif

Umm, you do know that she's of normal height, right?

[Undertaker666]

Vote:

Astil: 5 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1970)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 1 (Inadvertant)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

Umm, you do know that she's of normal height, right?

Indeed I do. I also know she's the sexiest woman on the planet. :cool:

[Antithesis]

How do we know he is lying?



I know that MichiganHero hid behind you last night.

Astil, I believe, is being mostly honest with us.
Destiny, I am 99% certain is scum.

Wow.. what took so long to say that?

[Antithesis]

Destinyyyy

You hinted at at something, which, honestly, havent seen in the write up fitting it.

Can you place yourself in any of the write ups? Do you go out at night, etc etc.

[Antithesis]

Vote:

Astil: 5 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1970)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 1 (Inadvertant)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.



Indeed I do. I also know she's the sexiest woman on the planet. :cool:

Hmm Third sexiest, behind Salma Hayek and the little Eurasian waitress at my local Hooters

[Midnightnick]

Vote: Astil

If the writeup shows you as male, and you claimed female.

That's a lie brohan.

[The Two]

Ouch, that was a harsh night. Three kills... one of them is a hider making a bad choice so that's not an ongoing kill we need to worry about, which means we've still got two kills per night as before. So either the cult didn't have a kill, or it was unaffected by lynching Masterded.

So I see we already have two good leads.

I'd put money on Astil being Hertz, personally. Possibly indy with a win condition to find Smith on one night and kill him the next. (Except he couldn't do that because this awesome cute thing kept roleblocking him...)

I think Glot may well be on the up and up, he seemed to be confused after night one when he was apparently legitimately expecting Astil, as DQ, to hook up with him.
That sounds the most likely scenario to me. I'm thinking Astil's role is probably similar to what I had in Sin: A lone killer with a handful of specific targets. He's got to kill Glot (and maybe one or two others to make it more of a challenge), so he claims an ally of Glot to get him to out himself. If that's the case, Jaded is the only reason Glotnot is still alive.

Vote: Astil

I think that should put us about halfway, that should be enough to get his attention.

I know that MichiganHero hid behind you last night.

Astil, I believe, is being mostly honest with us.
Destiny, I am 99% certain is scum.
Now that is also very interesting...

[Max Peck]

Hmm Third sexiest, behind Salma Hayek and the little Eurasian waitress at my local Hooters

Man, cruising for a modkill there:D

And on topic:

Vote: Astil

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Astil: 8 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1970, Midnightnick, The Two, Max Peck)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 1 (Inadvertant)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

Hmm Third sexiest, behind Salma Hayek and the little Eurasian waitress at my local Hooters

Different strokes for different folks.

[supermareo]

ok caught up

first off not exactly sure why comeradebots got a vote on me other than 'something i said' difficult to defend against that when i have absolutely no idea what that might be

as for myself being quite i think other than star wars (both 1+3) where i had something to contribute theamaticly i tend to be quiete untill something catches my notice that someone else hasnt already which brings me to our current direction, i did bring it up on day 2 that it was odd that glot hadn't gotten a pm considering that astil had supposedly 'found' him, with the recent evidence

Vote: Astil

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Astil: 9 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1970, Midnightnick, The Two, Max Peck, supermareo)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 1 (Inadvertant)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[supermareo]

How do we know he is lying?



I know that MichiganHero hid behind you last night.

Astil, I believe, is being mostly honest with us.
Destiny, I am 99% certain is scum.

ooh seemingly missed this on my way through, this is certainly interesting seeing as we have enough votes on astil for now for him to answer questions i think i'll do this

Change Vote: Destiny

care to explain this destiny?

[BHK1978]

Vote Count:

Astil: 9 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1970, Midnightnick, The Two, Max Peck, supermareo)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 1 (Inadvertant)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

BHK1978 not 1970. You are making me eight years older than I actually am...:D

[hellshock70]

BHK1978 not 1970. You are making me eight years older than I actually am...:D

he's not 40 yet :p

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Astil: 8 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1978, Midnightnick, The Two, Max Peck)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 2 (Inadvertant, supermareo)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

BHK1978 not 1970. You are making me eight years older than I actually am...:D

It's your own fault for having numbers at all. I mean, what kind of person would have numbers in their username! Oh...

[Imarevenant]

I like the options we have. Destiny any explanation for why MH would die upon choosing to hide behind you?

[Kobe1724]

VOTE: Astil

[Undertaker666]

Vote Count:

Astil: 9 (Jaded, Antithesis, Destiny, Glotnot, BHK1978, Midnightnick, The Two, Max Peck, Kobe1724)
supermareo: 1 (Comradebot)
Destiny: 2 (Inadvertant, supermareo)

It is Day 4. With 27 players remaining, it takes 14 to lynch. You have until Thursday 29th July, 6:00pm BST (1pm EST) to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by then, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Kobe1724]

I like this town group. We don't waste time dragging out the day phase and lynch right away, it seems.

We can pressure Destiny and MNN tomorrow. ^_^

[hellshock70]

It's your own fault for having numbers at all. I mean, what kind of person would have numbers in their username! Oh...

hey, i resemble that remark. :p

[Kobe1724]

hey, i resemble that remark. :p

hellshock, what year is your character from (movie wise)?

[Jaded]

I like this town group. We don't waste time dragging out the day phase and lynch right away, it seems.

We can pressure Destiny and MNN tomorrow. ^_^

Not always good - I definitely want rid of astil, but no reason to not explore other avenues.

[Glotnot]

So, kill Astil, or kill Destiny.

I told you all this from D1. Indy distractions should be taken care of from the start, or just let be for nothing. Now we have townies wasting abilities on them.

No you didn't. You said we should just lynch him, yeah, but you didn't have any legitimate reasons.

Indy's can be helpful. The "kill all indy's without moderation" standpoint just isn't acceptable to me.



Say there's a game with two mafias. The town win condition is to defeat the mafias.

But then there's also a character who's flavour we'll say says that one of the mafia's killed his brother, and as soon as he exacts vengeance upon them, he's skipping town.

Logically, the CHARACTER wouldn't care about the town or the other mafia, so long as the mafia he has a grudge against is eliminated.

This is essentially a character who has to kill one of the mafias, and then he leaves the game. Mechanics wise he is essentially allied to BOTH the Town, and the other mafia, and neither of these groups gains ANYTHING by killing him. In fact, they would both lose a resource in eliminating the first mafia. For the mechanics of that game, from the aspect of that one character, the game is completely different. To him, the town is the town, the other mafia is a mason group, the first mafia staying the mafia. So like the town and the second mafia gain nothing by killing him, he also gains nothing by killing them. He is, for all intents and purposes, a vigilante with a different coloured role and a slightly more lax win condition; but one that STILL falls in line with both the Town AND one of the mafia groups.

By your way of thinking "Oh he's indy, let's gust kill him", both groups would lose a vigilante. Yes he may kill them on accident, but that's the danger of all vigilantes regardless of the colour of their role in comparison to yours.

Do you kill all vigilantes? No? Then why would you kill this indy when he's the same thing.

Logically, you wouldn't. You just hold a form of a grudge against him...just because.


And why? Because of the colour of his role.

Prejudice. Tsk tsk.

[Kobe1724]

Not always good - I definitely want rid of astil, but no reason to not explore other avenues.

Scum only use lynch delays to create confusion. Better to get on with it imo. Plenty of time to discuss when there's something worth discussing. ^_^

[Kobe1724]

So, kill Astil, or kill Destiny.



No you didn't. You said we should just lynch him, yeah, but you didn't have any legitimate reasons.

Indy's can be helpful. The "kill all indy's without moderation" standpoint just isn't acceptable to me.



Say there's a game with two mafias. The town win condition is to defeat the mafias.

But then there's also a character who's flavour we'll say says that one of the mafia's killed his brother, and as soon as he exacts vengeance upon them, he's skipping town.

Logically, the CHARACTER wouldn't care about the town or the other mafia, so long as the mafia he has a grudge against is eliminated.

This is essentially a character who has to kill one of the mafias, and then he leaves the game. Mechanics wise he is essentially allied to BOTH the Town, and the other mafia, and neither of these groups gains ANYTHING by killing him. In fact, they would both lose a resource in eliminating the first mafia. For the mechanics of that game, from the aspect of that one character, the game is completely different. To him, the town is the town, the other mafia is a mason group, the first mafia staying the mafia. So like the town and the second mafia gain nothing by killing him, he also gains nothing by killing them. He is, for all intents and purposes, a vigilante with a different coloured role and a slightly more lax win condition; but one that STILL falls in line with both the Town AND one of the mafia groups.

By your way of thinking "Oh he's indy, let's gust kill him", both groups would lose a vigilante. Yes he may kill them on accident, but that's the danger of all vigilantes regardless of the colour of their role in comparison to yours.

Do you kill all vigilantes? No? Then why would you kill this indy when he's the same thing.

Logically, you wouldn't. You just hold a form of a grudge against him...just because.


And why? Because of the colour of his role.

Prejudice. Tsk tsk.

glot, Astil isn't to be trusted. His game strategy always results in this sort of early claiming/information giving. The information he gives is always either sparse or else dense but difficult to vet, however. If he isn't town then better to kill him than maybe be wrong and get bit by him later.

[Kobe1724]

I haven't got blocked yet because I only used my ability once, as it's every other night. :rolleyes:, Also. Do you expect me to go yay someone thinks I'm town? That makes me look like scum as all hell. I want you to think I'm good because I am good :cool:



I explained, Mded sneaks under the radar. I showed exactly what happens when you be proactive with those types of players.



Bingo~

Also in the night write up. Notice no screaming?

The probability than MNN is scum is now over 60%.

[supermareo]

Scum only use lynch delays to create confusion. Better to get on with it imo. Plenty of time to discuss when there's something worth discussing. ^_^

scum can also cover there tracks by helping to speedy lynch someone who isnt

[Midnightnick]

I like this town group. We don't waste time dragging out the day phase and lynch right away, it seems.

We can pressure Destiny and MNN tomorrow. ^_^

Pressure me for what Kobe? Last I checked, I delivered with scum.

[Kobe1724]

scum can also cover there tracks by helping to speedy lynch someone who isnt

Agreed. It's a matter of degrees and the situation, I suppose.

[Midnightnick]

The probability than MNN is scum is now over 60%.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I deliver when I promised and I'm scum. Sure.

[Glotnot]

glot, Astil isn't to be trusted. His game strategy always results in this sort of early claiming/information giving. The information he gives is always either sparse or else dense but difficult to vet, however. If he isn't town then better to kill him than maybe be wrong and get bit by him later.

...

Rough estimate, a quarter to a half of the people in this game are good liars.

What your logic, what your line of reasoning says, is that any time anyone claims, they could be lying, so it's better to just lynch them.

Which is obviously untrue.

You know what's way more effective? Lynching someone once their claim can be disproven.

This doesn't change just because someone claims indy. There have been, are, and will be scenarios where indy's are town aligned with a slightly different win condition.

The fact that they're indy doesn't make it smart or even a good idea to lynch them "just in case".

[Kobe1724]

Pressure me for what Kobe? Last I checked, I delivered with scum.

At this time I can't prove that you're scum so I'll refrain from sharing my ideology for now. However, the probability that you're scum is greater than the probability that you're town at this point.

Maybe I shouldn't have shared that I realize this however. It could result in my imminent death. Hmmm... :rolleyes:

[Max Peck]

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I deliver when I promised and I'm scum. Sure.

Well, I believe you.

[Midnightnick]

At this time I can't prove that you're scum so I'll refrain from sharing my ideology for now. However, the probability that you're scum is greater than the probability that you're town at this point.

Maybe I shouldn't have shared that I realize this however. It could result in my imminent death. Hmmm... :rolleyes:

If I'm scum, Booster Gold isn't the greatest superhero known to man.

And he is.

[Glotnot]

At this time I can't prove that you're scum so I'll refrain from sharing my ideology for now. However, the probability that you're scum is greater than the probability that you're town at this point.

Maybe I shouldn't have shared that I realize this however. It could result in my imminent death. Hmmm... :rolleyes:

...the fact that he revealed a cult doesn't automatically make him town, no, but it doesn't RAISE the probability that he's scum....

[Midnightnick]

Kobe, I just want to hear your argument against me of how I'm scum. I'm honestly intrigued to how you've got your eye on me, when I'm being proactive, and you know.

Revealed the big vamp cult?

I feel I have a right to face my accuser.

[Kobe1724]

...

Rough estimate, a quarter to a half of the people in this game are good liars.

What your logic, what your line of reasoning says, is that any time anyone claims, they could be lying, so it's better to just lynch them.

Which is obviously untrue.

You know what's way more effective? Lynching someone once their claim can be disproven.

This doesn't change just because someone claims indy. There have been, are, and will be scenarios where indy's are town aligned with a slightly different win condition.

The fact that they're indy doesn't make it smart or even a good idea to lynch them "just in case".

I'm actually no longer entirely opposed to letting Astil live. My issue with his typical strategy is that by early claiming/drawing negative attention when very few people have given or are willing to give information he actually protects himself from having to give up much. Then by doing this he dodges pressure again until very late in the game.

Now that he is under incredible pressure in the early mid game I'm actually not opposed to letting him live provided he can provide something concrete. So far he hasn't responded though. It could be that he simply hasn't seen the topic yet, but imo it's better to proceed under the logic that he won't show up and that it's necessary to lynch him. If he turns up to provide something useful that makes him trustworthy, then so be it. :cool:

[Destiny]

In response to Inadvertant's claims, I'd like to know what makes him think that MichiganHero targetted me last night. I have already claimed and don't seem to be in the write-up.

[Kobe1724]

Kobe, I just want to hear your argument against me of how I'm scum. I'm honestly intrigued to how you've got your eye on me, when I'm being proactive, and you know.

Revealed the big vamp cult?

I feel I have a right to face my accuser.

I'm not pressuring you right now, so you can simply consider my accusation to be an informed observation for the time being. When it becomes an accusation, I'll share my thought process in full and I welcome you to disagree.

Back to the subject of Astil, though.

Best to lynch him asap.

[Midnightnick]

I'm not pressuring you right now, so you can simply consider my accusation to be an informed observation for the time being. When it becomes an accusation, I'll share my thought process in full and I welcome you to disagree.

Back to the subject of Astil, though.

Best to lynch him asap.

You should keep your thoughts to yourself if you don't intend to fully back them up when addressed.

You've got me riled up Kobe. I'm on the ball in this game, and I don't need doubters. :mad:

(Note, it isn't anything personal. It's entirely from a game perspective, so don't take that the wrong way as it wasn't intended that way.)

[Glotnot]

Kobe, if you didn't act like this every game, I'd say you were acting scummy.

I mean the big post about not being against Astil live.

And then "O yeh, Astil? Lynch him ASAP tbh"

[Kobe1724]

Kobe, if you didn't act like this every game, I'd say you were acting scummy.

I mean the big post about not being against Astil live.

And then "O yeh, Astil? Lynch him ASAP tbh"

I've already said I want to lynch Astil asap this phase.

However, if he provides something concrete I'm not opposed to changing my mind.

[Kobe1724]

You should keep your thoughts to yourself if you don't intend to fully back them up when addressed.

You've got me riled up Kobe. I'm on the ball in this game, and I don't need doubters. :mad:

(Note, it isn't anything personal. It's entirely from a game perspective, so don't take that the wrong way as it wasn't intended that way.)

I made all of the statements I've made about you so far only to observe your reaction. They were all true statements, but I'd have kept them to myself if I didn't want to see your reaction.

[hellshock70]

hellshock, what year is your character from (movie wise)?

4 different decades

[Antithesis]

hellshock, what year is your character from (movie wise)?

What decade is your character from?

[Kobe1724]

What decade is your character from?

The 1990s.

[BHK1978]

4 different decades

Well there are some characters that I can think of. But one jumps out to me, so I think I might know who you are.

[Kobe1724]

4 different decades

What does this actors (real) name start with?

[Antithesis]

What does this actors (real) name start with?

Who said it was one actor?

(Thinks he got the hint, too)

[BHK1978]

Who said it was one actor?



Yeah I was thinking along those lines as well.

[Astil]

So I got good news and I got bad news, which would you guys like to hear first.

[Imarevenant]

So I got good news and I got bad news, which would you guys like to hear first.

The bad of course...

Who said it was one actor?

(Thinks he got the hint, too)

Yeah I was thinking along those lines as well.

Actually I'd like to hear something more as things are up in the air for me. My character spans 5 decades, however, there is still a specific movie in the parenthesis.

[Destiny]

I've already said I want to lynch Astil asap this phase.

However, if he provides something concrete I'm not opposed to changing my mind.

You're completely contradicting yourself. If we lynch Astil "asap", how is he able to provide anything?

[Astil]

The bad of course...


I am Karl Hertz, Self Aligned Forensic Behaviour Consultant

[Inadvertant]

Wow.. what took so long to say that?

Timing, mostly. Why throw out information if it isn't going to be needed that day phase? Had I said anything sooner, it would have caused more split votes for town ending in a mislynch. However, with the possibility that Astil is telling the truth and therefore still helpful to Town, I'm not going to sit on it.

In response to Inadvertant's claims, I'd like to know what makes him think that MichiganHero targetted me last night. I have already claimed and don't seem to be in the write-up.


I don't seem to recall your claim, but I do have my reasons to believe.

So I got good news and I got bad news, which would you guys like to hear first.

Could we get the good news first?



Super side note: Starcraft II is full of win!

[Teh_Showtime]

I am Self Aligned

as in indy right?

that might be enough for a vote

[Astil]

Could we get the good news first?

Oh, Rev got there first.

The good news is now we can actually lynch scum.

[Destiny]

Inadvertant, you need to be a lot more clearer. I obviously want to clear this up as soon as possible so it is not a distraction for any longer than it needs to be, as I do not want to be referred to as a distraction, hence me claiming so early. Also, if you don't "recall" my claim, I suggest you go back and read the first day phase.

[Kobe1724]

I am Karl Hertz, Self Aligned Forensic Behaviour Consultant

Let's suspend votes on Astil for now and see what he gives us tomorrow.

hellshock is probably Michael Meyers or something tbqh. :)

[Kobe1724]

I think Astil claimed female btw, but at this point killing him is so obvious I don't want to do it quite yet.

[Destiny]

Let's suspend votes on Astil for now and see what he gives us tomorrow.

hellshock is probably Michael Meyers or something tbqh. :)

If these are your thoughts now, it's a good idea we didn't follow your original advice and "lynch him asap". Again, you are contradicting yourself.

[Imarevenant]

I am Karl Hertz, Self Aligned Forensic Behaviour Consultant

Oh, Rev got there first.

The good news is now we can actually lynch scum.

As someone whose actually seen the movie your from. Hertz was a damn scumbag so I'm not too sure we wouldn't be lynching scum by lynching you anyway.

[Jaded]

Astil, any reason for us to trust you?

[Kobe1724]

If these are your thoughts now, it's a good idea we didn't follow your original advice and "lynch him asap". Again, you are contradicting yourself.

No contradiction. I wanted to lynch him ASAP, and now by being such obvious lynch bait he's changed my mind. :cool:

Although if I were him I'd begin working for/with the mafia since it looks like he's eventually a goner with us.

[Antithesis]

The bad of course...





Actually I'd like to hear something more as things are up in the air for me. My character spans 5 decades, however, there is still a specific movie in the parenthesis.

Hmm given that, maybe Hellshock should clarify a bit, I agree.

[Astil]

As someone whose actually seen the movie your from. Hertz was a damn scumbag so I'm not too sure we wouldn't be lynching scum by lynching you anyway.

You've outted a couple power roles.

I cannot touch them.

Why waste a day that you can still use?

[Kobe1724]

Everyone, we should obviously lynch Astil eventually.

But now that he's claimed a shady character after earlier hinting female and obviously needs to die why not see what he does in reaction to knowing he's going to die. It could be useful since it won't be logical.

[Destiny]

Things don't look too good for Astil, and I feel that he should have been more honest in the first place, especially as I specifically told him on the first day phase that if he wasn't being honest things would look very bad for him later on in the game.

[Antithesis]

If these are your thoughts now, it's a good idea we didn't follow your original advice and "lynch him asap". Again, you are contradicting yourself.

People have questions for you. You may have missed them

[Astil]

Astil, any reason for us to trust you?

I'm not after you. I cannot target you anymore.

[Antithesis]

You've outted a couple power roles.

I cannot touch them.

Why waste a day that you can still use?

Is that the "not as bad but it seems" defense?

[Destiny]

Antithesis, I've responded to Inadertant's claims and asked him exactly what he thinks he knows, as he could easily just be guessing at who MichiganHero attempted to target.

I'm going to bed now, as it's very late. However, I might as well tell you about my ability, which is more of a hinderance. It takes one less vote to lynch me, as my character is generally hated.

[Inadvertant]

Inadvertant, you need to be a lot more clearer. I obviously want to clear this up as soon as possible so it is not a distraction for any longer than it needs to be, as I do not want to be referred to as a distraction, hence me claiming so early. Also, if you don't "recall" my claim, I suggest you go back and read the first day phase.

Crikey, I don't end up at wrong conclusions, me instincts are always spot on.

[Kobe1724]

My thought process.

1. Pressure Destiny and Michael Meyers/hellshock today.

2. Lynch Astil tomorrow regardless of what happens (Please do something interesting so that we can learn something unexpected).

[Destiny]

So this is an instinct? If you generally saw MichiganHero target me, I'm just as confused as to why he died as you are. However, if this is an "instinct" based on our communication in the thread during the night phase, which was largely banterous, then you're wasting our time.

[Antithesis]

Inadvertant, you need to be a lot more clearer. I obviously want to clear this up as soon as possible so it is not a distraction for any longer than it needs to be, as I do not want to be referred to as a distraction, hence me claiming so early. Also, if you don't "recall" my claim, I suggest you go back and read the first day phase.

Antithesis, I've responded to Inadertant's claims and asked him exactly what he thinks he knows, as he could easily just be guessing at who MichiganHero attempted to target.

I'm going to bed now, as it's very late. However, I might as well tell you about my ability, which is more of a hinderance. It takes one less vote to lynch me, as my character is generally hated.

That isn't an answer to my questions...

Are you in any write ups? Have you gone out at night? If so who did you target?

[Astil]

Is that the "not as bad but it seems" defense?

More like it is what it seems.

Destiny seems very off, accusing Inadvertant and claiming a weak role.

[Kobe1724]

So this is an instinct? If you generally saw MichiganHero target me, I'm just as confused as to why he died as you are. However, if this is an "instinct" based on our communication in the thread during the night phase, which was largely banterous, then you're wasting our time.

Destiny I forget, what year is your character from. And what is the real actors first initial? Gender would help as well.

[Astil]

My thought process.

1. Pressure Destiny and Michael Meyers/hellshock today.

2. Lynch Astil tomorrow regardless of what happens (Please do something interesting so that we can learn something unexpected).

I am not a puppet.

[Antithesis]

That isn't an answer to my questions...

Are you in any write ups? Have you gone out at night? If so who did you target?

Just so I'm clear, you don't go out at all, and now you're claiming to be a miller?

[Kobe1724]

I am not a puppet.

I asked nicely. ^_^

You can kill me if you like. :)

[GruntMark]

I am not a puppet.

Then whats that hand doing there?

[Antithesis]

More like it is what it seems.

Destiny seems very off, accusing Inadvertant and claiming a weak role.

Explain then why we shouldn't lynch you because you cannot target anyone?

If you could target someone we should lynch you?

[Kobe1724]

It's worth noting that I hope hellshock is not Michael Meyers. I like him a lot, he's one of my favorite people online.

[Astil]

I asked nicely. ^_^

You can kill me if you like. :)

No, no I can't. I can only target one.

Then whats that hand doing there?

The hand jive?

[BHK1978]

Kobe why are you calling HS, Michael Meyers? There are plenty of other characters besides MM that comes to my mind that he could be hinting at.

[Antithesis]

No, no I can't. I can only target one.



The hand jive?

Why is your character described as being male?

[Kobe1724]

Astil, if it's okay with you I'd like it if we could all come to the agreement to lynch you tomorrow so that we can focus on Destiny (conveniently disappearing right about now).

[Astil]

Explain then why we shouldn't lynch you because you cannot target anyone?

If you could target someone we should lynch you?

I can't much hurt the town.

[Astil]

Astil, if it's okay with you I'd like it if we could all come to the agreement to lynch you tomorrow so that we can focus on Destiny (conveniently disappearing right about now).

No, it's not okay, lynch me now. :rolleyes:

[Kobe1724]

Kobe why are you calling HS, Michael Meyers? There are plenty of other characters besides MM that comes to my mind that he could be hinting at.

James Bond as well, I suppose.

[Astil]

Why is your character described as being male?

Did you miss my claim?

[Kobe1724]

No, it's not okay, lynch me now. :rolleyes:

I'd prefer to lynch you tomorrow, but so glad you're okay with being lynched today. ^_^

[Inadvertant]

So this is an instinct? If you generally saw MichiganHero target me, I'm just as confused as to why he died as you are. However, if this is an "instinct" based on our communication in the thread during the night phase, which was largely banterous, then you're wasting our time.

Yes, I saw him target you. I don't know why, but I felt that his little girl claim from Aliens was weak, just as we all thought about Bak's claim of Sloth from The Goonies. So I targeted him last night, saw him target you, and now he's dead. By police logic, that puts you as the suspect. Tell me I'm wrong about that, anyone.

[Antithesis]

Did you miss my claim?

The one where you claimed to be a female character, or some other claim?

[Kobe1724]

MNN, would you mine providing us with your thoughts on Astil? Also, would you mind sharing your thoughts on Antithesis and Destiny?

[Astil]

I'd prefer to lynch you tomorrow, but so glad you're okay with being lynched today. ^_^

You would do so well in a Kingmaker game.

[Astil]

The one where you claimed to be a female character, or some other claim?

The most recent one.

[Antithesis]

The most recent one.

repost it...

if its different from the original explain again why that would be.

[Astil]

Yes, I saw him target you. I don't know why, but I felt that his little girl claim from Aliens was weak, just as we all thought about Bak's claim of Sloth from The Goonies. So I targeted him last night, saw him target you, and now he's dead. By police logic, that puts you as the suspect. Tell me I'm wrong about that, anyone.

It's not a guarentee, but...

Vote: Destiny

[Antithesis]

Blah I see it now. nm

[BHK1978]

Yes, I saw him target you. I don't know why, but I felt that his little girl claim from Aliens was weak, just as we all thought about Bak's claim of Sloth from The Goonies. So I targeted him last night, saw him target you, and now he's dead. By police logic, that puts you as the suspect. Tell me I'm wrong about that, anyone.

I thought it was Masterded who claimed Sloth.

[Antithesis]

Who were all those people that kept saying to leave Astil alone?

Obviously not Multuple Time Scummy Award Winners, thats who! :D

[Kobe1724]

Astil, please share with us your thoughts on myself, MNN and CBot.

[Astil]

Who were all those people that kept saying to leave Astil alone?

Obviously not Multuple Time Scummy Award Winners, thats who! :D

What's your claim again?

[Astil]

Astil, please share with us your thoughts on myself, MNN and CBot.

Irrelevant to me. x3.

None seem scummy.

[Antithesis]

What's your claim again?



Blaine, Good Aligned Sexual Tyrannosaur
(Predator)

[Kobe1724]

Irrelevant to me. x3.

None seem scummy.

Change Vote: Destiny

[Astil]

Blaine, Good Aligned Sexual Tyrannosaur
(Predator)


Right, the one with the screw up.

[Antithesis]

I am Karl Hertz, Self Aligned Forensic Behaviour Consultant

Funny, yours didn't include the movie title...

[Antithesis]

Right, the one with the screw up.

Oh no, the confirmed liar is trying to question my claim? Whatever will I do?? :p

[Astil]

Funny, yours didn't include the movie title...

No, I didn't copy it over. I only copied one line.

[Astil]

Oh no, the confirmed liar is trying to question my claim? Whatever will I do?? :p

I assume continue distracting, but hey, who am I to say?

[Midnightnick]

MNN, would you mine providing us with your thoughts on Astil? Also, would you mind sharing your thoughts on Antithesis and Destiny?

Gladly.

Astil has been a distraction and has kept changing who or what he is.

I vote to lynch.

Anti claimed. I believe his claim.

Destiny I never get a read on. My gut says town.

Simple.

[Kobe1724]

Funny, yours didn't include the movie title...

Can we please lynch Astil tomorrow instead? Everyone just leave him alone today and tonight and let him be. He can tell us what he did tomorrow. ^_^

[Kobe1724]

Gladly.

Astil has been a distraction and has kept changing who or what he is.

I vote to lynch.

Anti claimed. I believe his claim.

Destiny I never get a read on. My gut says town.

Simple.

Thanks. ^_^

[Antithesis]

I assume continue distracting, but hey, who am I to say?

This is that 'make you appear scummy so you'll lynch the otehr guy to defend yourself' tactic?

[Antithesis]

Can we please lynch Astil tomorrow instead? Everyone just leave him alone today and tonight and let him be. He can tell us what he did tomorrow. ^_^

Actually i am open to that debate, but wanna read the write up again.. I recall it seemed like Destiny didn't go out. Very few scum roles in the game that don't go out.

He could be the Don, cept he's claimed to be hated (miller I guess)

Some kind of vote manipulator maybe.. or I am remembering the write up wrong.

[Kobe1724]

Astil is obviously lying/hiding something. He isn't town. So I guess it makes sense to lynch him. So why keep questioning him?