Footage distribution official thread(tm)

[TeemuFoundation]

I was a bit worried there for a minute, but thankfully Adam gave us an update. I could say that I like it, but... duh?

[Thriller]

A nice feature. Nothing else to say really.

:)

[Trackersan]

This is a definate help for those of us who start out with small promotions...hellooooo internet :cool:

[NickC13573]

trackersan, you must be crazy. Hello DVD's. Now Adam, I love all the features yet. However, it seems that you are just making the game easier for us to go from worst to first. Please tell me there is going to be more random events, like somebody is suing you becuz Wrestler X was injured, or something along those lines.

[Cold Cobra]

A nice new feature, especially the internet part. That makes a lot of sense.

[Showtime4Lajf]

Will it be possible to sign deals with companies like Smart Mark Video to tape and sell your DVD's/tapes or an actual professional production company to produce your DVD's for you to add professionalism, Adam?

[Trashbear]

Yeah, in terms of realism, adding the internet option is great. How many small promotions have gone that route? Seems like all of them in the modern age.

[andytaker]

Firstly, great feature, 2ndly IS this option available for House shows?

[eayragt]

However, it seems that you are just making the game easier for us to go from worst to first.

No-one ever said that this was going to make the game any easier. Just because you can broadcast on the Internet doesn't mean that you've suddenly got a global audience of 2 million. It may just mean that 2,000 people download it all over the world, and has no real impact on how popular you are.

[Adam Ryland]

Will it be possible to sign deals with companies like Smart Mark Video to tape and sell your DVD's/tapes or an actual professional production company to produce your DVD's for you to add professionalism, Adam?

You can already choose the quality. Specifying which company is doing the distribution is not in, I don't see that it adds anything to the game.

[The Stallion]

I really like this option. It gives you the oportunity to put your stuff on the internet if you fall into the TNA situation where they had no TV for a short time and they put Impact on the net. Great option! Plus now ROH can really be simulated.

[Adam Ryland]

No-one ever said that this was going to make the game any easier. Just because you can broadcast on the Internet doesn't mean that you've suddenly got a global audience of 2 million. It may just mean that 2,000 people download it all over the world, and has no real impact on how popular you are.

Correct. I don't understand why people would think this would make it any easier to suddenly become the #1 promotion in the world anyway, the AI promotions will be using it too, so it's not like you've got any sort of advantage over them.

[nick1091]

Two quick questions.

1. If the option is set to none, does that mean there will be no need to set an announce team?

2. If the option is set to Internet, will we be able to see anywhere how many people have viewed/downloaded the show?

[TCP1]

Just curious (Love the feature by the way) but will there be more negative features to counteract the surge toward helping out the smaller feds?

I've always been interested about the difference between global and national/cult levels. It seems that the levels should be be more difficult to obtain.

Just a thought.

Also does this feature help global promotions like WWE who already have a massive fanbase?

[The Stallion]

Two quick questions.

1. If the option is set to none, does that mean there will be no need to set an announce team?

2. If the option is set to Internet, will we be able to see anywhere how many people have viewed/downloaded the show?
Im not Adam but I could almost say for sure that you will be able to view the viewed/downloaded numbers in the same place as the viewers for TV shows and such. As for the first question, thats something I would like to know as well.

[praize1979]

I didn't see this answered, if it was apoligies adam.

But say if you use video option, can take certain matches for one wrestler, To make a best of type of video?

and also on the Internet option can you select what clips get post to the internet if you wanted, like WWE and TNA does with the segments?

[Adam Ryland]

If the option is set to none, does that mean there will be no need to set an announce team?

No.

If the option is set to Internet, will we be able to see anywhere how many people have viewed/downloaded the show?

No, you see the effect in popularity increase.

Just curious (Love the feature by the way) but will there be more negative features to counteract the surge toward helping out the smaller feds?

It's not a surge, you can't suddenly turn yourself into a national powerhouse by releasing DVDs, you can merely make yourself a decent indy promotion a la ROH. If releasing good quality DVDs could make you into a huge promotion then ROH would be much bigger than they are in reality.

Also does this feature help global promotions like WWE who already have a massive fanbase?

It can help them break into foreign markets, but it's unlikely to do a great deal other than that. The WWE doesn't gain new fans via DVD in reality, it gets income from existing ones. It is smaller promotions who actually expand via this method.

But say if you use video option, can take certain matches for one wrestler, To make a best of type of video?

No. You're not getting the thrust of this feature, it's about expanding your audience. What you're talking about is essentially fancy merchandising.

and also on the Internet option can you select what clips get post to the internet if you wanted, like WWE and TNA does with the segments?

No, I don't think that is necessary.

[Remianen]

Okay now I see what Adam's doing. He's building an electronic mosaic.

This feature, while nice on its own, becomes even better when taken together with the other announced features. I'm guessing there will be a lot of subtleties to 07 that'll keep folks guessing for at least a year. Remember the 'just in time' thing in 05? How long did that take to get sussed out? But this feature, at least on paper, gives smaller promotions a potentially new revenue stream, which has always been my major issue with running a smaller promotion. As a person who enjoys digging out and employing a game's more subtle workings, this is turning into quite the intriguing puzzle.

Great addition! :)

[TheNinjaSpecter]

Actually I can see a point to the best of video, it could help increase the popularity of one of your better wrestlers. It probably would only have a small effect, but having a best of video could have a point.

[Adam Ryland]

Actually I can see a point to the best of video, it could help increase the popularity of one of your better wrestlers. It probably wouldn't have a huge effect, but having a best of video could have a point.

Please re-read what I actually wrote, and not what you think I wrote. I didn't say that a "Best Of" didn't have a point, I said that it didn't fit in with the thrust of this particular feature.

[TheNinjaSpecter]

Oh I see that make sense, the comment about "essentially fancy merchandising" made me think you thought that.

Edit: Btw I like the feature, adds another real life option for indy promotions to get over.

[The Masterpiece]

Will you be able to use the internet, as a 'show highlight' kind of thing, such as what ROH currently do? Not to give much away from the shows, but a little look at them.

What is the downside to an internet show? Does it cost a lot of money to run?

[rajde]

I find this a bit confusing. Wouldn't this still be like a tv taping?

[The Stallion]

I find this a bit confusing. Wouldn't this still be like a tv taping?
I would say yes (again I am not Adam). I thinks its a way to get your product out their when you dont have a TV show. Also did you guys actually read what Adam said in his last post
I didn't say that a "Best Of" didn't have a point
To me that sounds like he is going to be putting this feature in :D

[weirdo_man]

I hope he doesn't. I think it's pointless, I don't know what point people see in it.

[Thomnipotent]

From what we read about Merchandising in TEW 07, then yeah... I'd imagine best-of DVDs could be one of the options (along with those god damned foam hands).

I think one of the immediately obvious disadvantages of running an internet show or selling DVDs would be the cost -- it's clearly going to take more money to throw your show on the 'net or DVD (camera crew, editing, etc) than it would to choose 'None,' leading me to wonder exactly how affordable it's going to be for smaller promotions. So unless you're making a whole crap ton of money, these options may not necessarily be viable ones.

[shipshirt]

I think it's a great feature. As someone who loves the smaller indies like MAW having a way to get the word out to other territories (or just make some cash) is a great feature. I also like that it may cost money and you may not be able to sustain it...things like that add so much realism.

I never understood when people don't like the chance to fail at something in a game...it adds that much more of a challenge...but that's a topic for another post.

And Thom, I've got a Mainstream Hernandez Foam Hand just waitin' for ya!!

[Game]

If you select internet, couldn't you just put banners on the site to make profit of it? I mean, I have a site that hosts videos for people, and I make money just buy posting ads on the sites.

[Adam Ryland]

If you select internet, couldn't you just put banners on the site to make profit of it? I mean, I have a site that hosts videos for people, and I make money just buy posting ads on the sites.

You're nit-picking. If you want to be anal about it then you could also have an option to set up a subscription service and get revenue that way, but it defeats the point of having an Internet and DVD\VHS option if there is going to be virtually no difference between them. You have to look at the bigger picture!

[Anubis]

This is an excellent feature. Thumbs up.

[MrThing]

Would it be possible to provide TV-like content on free Internet and big shows on DVD?

JAPW has a webcast that is like a B-show and the RoH free content is like a B-show as well, but they both sell the real goods on DVD.

In this way Internet is to TV what DVD is to PPV. The option to use both would be useful, but you also have to pay for both to be produced and distributed (although internet content can be distributed for free via You Tube and the like).

[GDE71]

I love this feature.

When you are a ZERO POP fed just starting out, you can choose NONE.

When you are too small to get a TV show but getting sort of popular, you can do INTERNET.

When you have your first TV show and would like to really expand your territory, you can do DVD's.

I'm going to have to have 4 games running at once. A Zero pop fed in the USA. A Zero pop fed in Mexico. A Zero pop fed in UK/Europe. A Zero pop fed in Japan.

[Nutlaw]

Excellent feature.

Will putting your shows up on the internet reduce your live sales as people will know that they can get the content for free later on, or will the excitement of being there live negate that?

[praize1979]

That makes since, I like this it makes more since, than us trying to sign a deal with a internet host when in reality were the company paying for the host not signing a deal with the host to get to air.

I guess that makes since with "The Best of Dvd's" being more fancy merchandising, it not really a show or PPV type of deal, so it makes since :)

[tristram]

I would say yes (again I am not Adam). I thinks its a way to get your product out their when you dont have a TV show. Also did you guys actually read what Adam said in his last post
I didn't say that a "Best Of" didn't have a point
To me that sounds like he is going to be putting this feature in :D

I hear ya on the last point mate. 10-4.

[TheGentryCove]

Cool feature, it's impossible not to see it as a good thing I think.

[Ajstylesfan1978]

Nice feature Adam. Extra money never hurts.

[Dolfanar]

Anyway to turn this feature (or part of it) off?

I'm thinking in terms of historical scenarios like DOTT. Even if it was/is hard coded in

ex: <1995 No Internet, <1980 No DVD/VHS

I don't want to be playing DOTT only to find out that Bill Watts is uploading his shows to the internet in 1984 using a 1200 baud modem or something!

[gripperm]

Great feature..in RL this is how I watch NWA Anarchy shows and then I order the big shows on dvd that are not free.

[TheNinjaSpecter]

Would it be possible to provide TV-like content on free Internet and big shows on DVD?

JAPW has a webcast that is like a B-show and the RoH free content is like a B-show as well, but they both sell the real goods on DVD.

In this way Internet is to TV what DVD is to PPV. The option to use both would be useful, but you also have to pay for both to be produced and distributed (although internet content can be distributed for free via You Tube and the like).

This is completely correct IMO, especially the last paragraph. I hope that we can have the option to do both.

[juggaloninjalee]

That would be cool if you could turn it off for some scenarios or so it wouldn't come into play until a certain year somehow. I dont play scenarios of the past though.

[panix04]

oh yeah i didnt think of the possible ramifications on the DOTT with this feature, i guess its time for people to get there roleplay hats on!

[Adam Ryland]

Anyway to turn this feature (or part of it) off?

I'm thinking in terms of historical scenarios like DOTT. Even if it was/is hard coded in

ex: <1995 No Internet, <1980 No DVD/VHS

I don't want to be playing DOTT only to find out that Bill Watts is uploading his shows to the internet in 1984 using a 1200 baud modem or something!

No. If we applied that logic to one feature, it'd need to be added to every feature, and that would result in basically a completely new game. You'd have to have pay-per-view become time sensitive, TV viewing figures become time sensitive, you'd even have to make some of the styles appear and disappear.

[Thriller]

If the show being sold on DVD or viewed on the internet is a bad show, E-grade type show, will that effect the overness gained from the DVD/internet? Or does the show rating not effect it?

[Adam Ryland]

If the show quality didn't effect anything then what would be the point? :confused:

[Dolfanar]

No. If we applied that logic to one feature, it'd need to be added to every feature, and that would result in basically a completely new game. You'd have to have pay-per-view become time sensitive, TV viewing figures become time sensitive, you'd even have to make some of the styles appear and disappear.

But actually some of that is already possible. If I am playing a 1930's scenario, and I have no TV networks and PPV carriers then there will be no PPV or TV. Bingo, you're done.

WWW and DVD/VHS are a kind of unique situation as they are extremely recent developments (along with PPV) in the wrestling industry, and certainly deserve special dispensation. SOme way to toggle them on and off would be a nice addition.

[Adam Ryland]

But actually some of that is already possible. If I am playing a 1930's scenario, and I have no TV networks and PPV carriers then there will be no PPV or TV. Bingo, you're done.

That's not really the same thing, as you'll now never have TV or PPV in your game, even if you play until the present day.

[Dolfanar]

Unless i import networks, which is a fact of life for historical scenarios anyway (since there is no "future networks" or "future PPV carriers" DBs).

[oldskool]

If the show quality didn't effect anything then what would be the point? :confused:
WreSpi2's match quality didn't affect anything :D

And while I'm here, I had a question; is it possible to tape a show, but not use it right away?

Like, if I don't have the money in September, I select none...but in November, I'm doing better so I pick DVD/VHS, would the shows I did in September be available for DVD release?

[Travis]

Would there be a possibility of somehow having the TV/Internet Distribution and the other Internet Feature work together in the game? For example, the regular Internet feature would have an advertisement of sorts for your company's show or product.

[Thriller]

If the show quality didn't effect anything then what would be the point? :confused:

Colour me embarrassed :o .

[SpaceMountain]

What if I'm a touring promotion? What does the game do for internet content on the months we're inactive?