DB Real World Update

[Slim Jim]

I was wondering if you were putting in tag teams which are no longer active whilst you were going along or if you were only doing current ones to save time so you can get it out quicker?

Also are you putting in all relationships that you know of, only the major ones or none at all?

And finally what with all this Hardy/Lita/Edge stuff at the moment I was wondering what overness you had them all set at, as it seems they have all taken a boost, Hardy as possibly the most over face at the moment and Lita and Edge as the most over heels as well? [Well maybe Cena, Batista, Hogan and Trips are more over but you get the point]

[foreverzerov1]

i agree i think lita has improved on the mic. and her old settings said she wasnt good as a heel which i think shes doing quite good. Also wondering if ecw guys are gonna be included like balls, axl, sabu and sandman. not that im demanding them just wondering

[Chibul]

Will all of the people that the WWE has cut lately still be available for use?

[Damian]

A majority of the latest WWE cuts will be in the game still, simply because most were there before and I've removed them from WWE contract, so they're still there.

As for Tag Teams, i've added in some non-active ones ie.. New Age Outlaws, Hardyz etc...

Relationships.. this is a very difficult section due to it all being on word of mouth, unless it's a Cliq friendship. But still i've added a LARGE number already and will continue to add those I hear and learn off.

Stats will be tweaked before the release of the update, Lita's mic work will be, along with Hardy's overness. As one of you said about the Cena thing, if you saw Raw, Hardy got twice the cheer Cena did, Hardy's reminded me of those Austin-McMahon fued cheers Austin would get when he storms out.

Lastly as for ECW guys, I HOPE to put them in as I've been a fan for many years and have good knowledge on movesets etc... Sabu is a sure-fire yes, Sandman too.. many of the lower names might be and might not be, comes down to what they're doing right now. Odds are Balls and Axl will be a WWE Tag Team, judging the mad pops they're getting and good performances in WWE Dark Matches.

I'm currently adding a bunch of moves into a seperate database, that I'll import when I get the actual DB 1.0 back from Murdermachine. And it includes the Arabian Facebuster(Sabu), Muscle Buster(Samoa) and many others!

[foreverzerov1]

some of the ecw guys should be pretty easy as they are just brawlers with a few special moves.

[ekedolphin]

Great news, Damien! Thanks again to everyone who's been working on this update.

[Wildcat]

Great to hear Damian. I know many people including myself had bought the game specifically for a Real World update to be implemented and while DOTT is awesome and I love playing it its not the same as playing with the feds and wreslters you follow IRL.

[Chibul]

Great to hear Damian. I know many people including myself had bought the game specifically for a Real World update to be implemented and while DOTT is awesome and I love playing it its not the same as playing with the feds and wreslters you follow IRL.

Amen!

[dscatx]

Would there be other feds being implemented like CZW, 3PW, IWA Midsouth, PWG, Japanese and Mexican feds?

[redshadow100]

When this mod is out does anybody know which career they try out, i'm thinking about doing a Doug Williams career or a Christopher Daniels, what do you guys think?

[foreverzerov1]

Petey Williams, Chris Sabin and Christopher Daniels for me... i wanna give out that canadian destroyer!

[Damian]

Would there be other feds being implemented like CZW, 3PW, IWA Midsouth, PWG, Japanese and Mexican feds?

One thing at a time, once I've released this WWE/TNA/ROH pack, then I'll begin work adding another bunch of feds... but I'll allow you guys to vote once I release the pack, on which feds YOU want in it first.

Over the few days, I've made about 50 new moves for the game, just waiting on the pack to get back to me and I can put them all in.

I personally am looking forward to taking over an old legend and runnn' wild in the indys!, lol

[dscatx]

Great, I'm looking forward of doing a Samoa joe career. I'll muscle buster everyone in TNA and making Samoa Joe the dominated force in TNA. My dream match Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles or Samoa Joe vs Rhino. I don't know what Samoa Joe's overness is but my first attempt is to start from the bottom in the X Divison to dominate everyone in the X Divison to become X Division Champ and work against top wrestler to build my overness. I'll will make him NWA Champ, and make sure he hold onto the title as long as someone beat him for it. This real world update sounds awesome. Cannot wait til it comes out.

[Damian]

Update ---

Ok Murdermachine is sending back to update to me tomorrow after having real life block any work on it. So when I get it back, I'll be adding all the Generic Movesets in over the next few days.

Also an update is that a Commentary Pack is being made EXCLUSIVELY for my update, finally some charisma and sound quality in the matches, lol... no offence Adam. It'll feature 2 commentators calling different moves along with some color commentary also.

For the Update release, to save time on HUGE downloads for those not lucky enough to have 2.2mb network speed... The game, pictures and sound will be in seperate packs.. I'm going to need some people to host it as my FTP program is down and I can't get my update onto my own hosting account.

[Ultima]

I could probably handle the data pack on my webspace for a while.

[Damian]

Update ----

Ok Murdermachine said he'd send the data to me before he went away this morning... and he didn't. Now he's said that he's not done much anyway, so odds are anything he's done will have to go a miss, because I'll just add the movesets myself to the update at the stage before I sent it to him.

I've been tweaking movesets and workers over the past few days out of boredom and Samoa Joe is a real monster now, just like his real self... alot of his moves are stronger than the normal due to them being stiffer and you can literally pick apart a weak cruiserweight in minutes, but still have great matches with better opponents.

Anyway I gotta go, i'll start with more movesets tomorrow and post a list of all the workers in the game so far..

[Damian]

Update ---

Everything is back on track, Murdermachine has added a good bunch of moves into the game and has sent me back the update, I'll get to work tonight or tomorrow on filling it with movesets and new workers.

[Ultima]

Damian, I just realized that you need different pics for the world titles since they swapped brands. Here are the updated ones.

Also, did you get the ROH belts and few moves I sent a couple weeks back?

[Damian]

Good thinking, I completely forgot about that, lol

[Damian]

Update!

Movesets Added:
Generic Indy Talent #1
Generic Indy Talent #2
Generic Indy Talent #3
Generic Indy Talent #4
Generic Indy Talent #5

Movesets Tweaked:
Samoa Joe

Today I plan to add

Luchadore 1 - 5 also, with any luck, we'll get another bunch. So to be honest, we're about 60% if not more so far on Generic Movesets and if i get all of the sets done tonight, that I want to... we'll be about 85%. As soon as those sets are done, I'll fill the game up with some Indy talent and big name guys who're not tied down and we'll have the first WWE/TNA/ROH release.

[dscatx]

Great, I can't wait til the update comes out. After you released this one, would there be a Joshi puroresu like GAEA, AtoZ, All Japan Women, JWP and NEO being added in your future update. We have not had one person do an Joshi puroresu update for wrestp. I was just wondering if we would see one? If so, it would be better to contact Infernomiko whatever her name is to help you do an Japanese women wrestling fed.
I also looking forward to japanese feds like All japan, Zero1max, New Japan and etc. Plus the mexican feds AAA and CMLL.

[Damian]

It's jumping ahead a little, but yes I plan on having 3 Mexican, 5 Japanese, 3 English, 2 Australian, a few Canadian and some more US feds in... it'll all begin to flow into the game shortly.

ADDED!
TNA:
James Mitchell
Larry Zbyszko
Johnny Fairplay
Shocker
Delirious
Jerrelle Clark
Phi Delta Slam
Shark Boy

More tomorrow!

[Damian]

Update!

Ok today I've added a bunch of Relationships into the game and updated EVERY workers stats, spirit, overness, bio, disposition, card place and contract. I also found time to throw in the following stuff too.

ADDED:
Generic US Lightweight #1 - Moveset
Generic US Lightweight #2 - Moveset
Generic US Lightweight #3 - Moveset
Generic US Lightweight #4 - Moveset
Generic US Lightweight #5 - Moveset

WWE:
The Boogeyman

TNA:
Cassidy Riley
A1

More to come soon, although it may have to wait until Friday when my gf goes on holiday for two weeks.

And a GUARANTEED RELEASE DATE!!!

Friday 12th August 2005
If it's not finished then for some reason, it'll be released anyway with whats in it, but I'm 99.99999999999999999% sure it'll be done for then, and then I'll start a monthly update on it, adding more each time.

[gazwefc83]

Thank you Very Much for your hard work & dedication

[Damian]

Update ---

ADDED:
Generic Luchadore #1 - Moveset
Generic Luchadore #2 - Moveset
Generic Luchadore #3 - Moveset
Generic Luchadore #4 - Moveset
Generic Luchadore #5 - Moveset
Generic MMA #1 - Moveset
Generic MMA #2 - Moveset
Generic MMA #3 - Moveset
Generic MMA #4 - Moveset
Generic MMA #5 - Moveset

WORKERS:
Samoa Joe - Moveset Updated
Sean Waltman - Moveset Update
Shelton Benjamin - Moveset Update
Zach Gowan - Worked & Moveset Added

MOVES:
Added about another 30 standard moves

Also I've updated the workers with the latest and better quality pictures, along with a few moves removed or tweaked here and there. Anyway I'm back off to continue the work now

[Ransik]

Is the August 12th release date still a go?

[cm_p_u_n_k]

Yay! Release date is tomorrow (sp?) lol. It is still August 12th right?

[Ransik]

Today's the day! I hope...

[cm_p_u_n_k]

Im so excited! I hope Damians 2 week hiatus means hes been working hard lol.

[Chibul]

GUARANTEED release date?

[XxFutureLegend112xX]

well i hope its released today i really wanna play it

[Ransik]

Well, this sure as hell wasn't a Vincent Kennedy McMahon guarantee huh? :)

[theaddicane]

Me hopes it is out, fingers crossed

[Cryonax]

And a GUARANTEED RELEASE DATE!!!

Friday 12th August 2005
If it's not finished then for some reason, it'll be released anyway with whats in it, but I'm 99.99999999999999999% sure it'll be done for then, and then I'll start a monthly update on it, adding more each time.

Is the update posted somewhere else, or did it just not happen? :o

[theaddicane]

I dont think it has happened yet, but have a little faith in damien, he has a posiible 101 reasons why it is not up yet just now,but im thinking we wont have that long to wait, I am just grateful he took the time to make something that will give people hours of enjoyment! Thanks big D! As a side question to the man himself, will the titles be up to date, as i am in the UK and do not want to ruin any TNA results (we are up to slammiversary) so will this ruin them or will it be a case of having to get someone else to check?

[Weden]

will the titles be up to date, as i am in the UK and do not want to ruin any TNA results (we are up to slammiversary) so will this ruin them or will it be a case of having to get someone else to check?

No, it will be set in 2003 despite it being called an "up-to-date" stats scenario :rolleyes:

[theaddicane]

Thanks, but it still sounds awesome! Where is it though :(

[Slim Jim]

He probably came on to release it, saw people like Chibul making smartass comments about the release date and decided it wasn't worth his energy releasing it to the public when people bitched about it being late. You don't know what's going on with him, he does have a life you know. It'll be released when he gets the time to do it, people making smartass comments isn't going to speed it up. If anything it'll slow it down because he'll be reading them when he could be putting up the link.

On a brighter note I am very much looking forward to the release and finally being able to play a decent real life up to date career, I'm glad someone had more determination and time to one than me, I tried and gave up after the first moveset -_-

[Trixter2k3]

I can help you out with webspace if you want. Just tell me how much space you need Damien.

[Cryonax]

...have a little faith in damien...
I have complete faith that Damien will eventually get the time to finish it. I'm just extremely eager to get my grubby little mits on his very appreciated labor of love. Wait that came out wrong... You know what I mean! I can't wait to play the update! :D

[cm_p_u_n_k]

I do think however that it would have been nice of him to tell us what is going on, after all he did fill us full of hope by setting an unnessecary (sp?) release date. Still, can't wait to get my grubby little mits all over it too!

[KaySeeDubya]

Slim J is probably right, he decided not to release it because of all the complainers and smart-ass remarks from people, before and after he announced the date. Why let people who provoke him, bitch, and complain get the update? You think they will even say 'thank you' after he releases it? Probably something like 'about time' or 'couldn't this been uploaded weeks ago?!'.

I do understand, however, he made promises. I wouldn't have made a promise, I would have just said "Most likely will be released". But hey, these things take TIME. A lot of people have a lot of unique movesets, and I tried to make an update with the TEW converter. Trust me, I gave up after the first moveset.

[Weden]

Damian can't have seen all the remarks and decided not to release it... you know why? This is from his profile:

Last Activity: 08-01-2005 07:14 AM

[Jestor]

Damian can't have seen all the remarks and decided not to release it... you know why? This is from his profile:

Last Activity: 08-01-2005 07:14 AM

Yeah, so a little thing called Real Life probably snuck on him.

So no need for people to be getting all snappy about this. Get a grip. It's not like he's being paid for this update or anything. He does it because he wants to and because he evidently likes contributing something to the community.

Bitching about it is just going to make him not want to do it.

[Checkmate]

Exactly,you never know,he could have fallen ill or there is a family emergency,it could be anything.Besides,getting all worked up over it isn't going to make anything happen faster anyway.

[Ransik]

I think it's funny people are saying not to bitch on a guaranteed release date.

Not that I can't wait for it, but if he guaranteed it, he should at least do his best to let us know what's going on. 3 days late with no word what so ever from anyone involved in making the update? It's odd, and since they all know that the 12th was the day to release it, one person ought to say something at the very least.

[theaddicane]

I think people are just annoyed as they were expecatant of it and just a bit dissapointed, but we should just wait. I know he promised but there are a 1001 possible reasons why he cannot do it yet, but he is doing his best for the good of the community spending coutless hours making this, so we can wait. His life is much more important then a game, so that gets priority over helping people he will never probably meet for no real pay, so really it is understandable why it could be late. Would you put it over a family emergency? Or more likely, it has slipped his mind or he is too busy. A few days shouldnt bother anyone that much.

[Weden]

Could one of you who thinks it's fine that he's not posted it please define the word "guarantee"?

[theaddicane]

Look, im not saying that i like it being late, but really, what is a few days to the time we will spend playing it?

And if you are so bothered then dont wait, make your own and when you release it on time you can say that you were reliable.

Otherwise we all just have to sit tight and wait, so we might as well do it without bickering.

To change the subject, which opponents are you looking forward to working against, because i am hoping for a few brawls with raven and a good bout with Samoa Joe.

[cm_p_u_n_k]

Im looking forward to talking "contracts" with Vinnie Mac as Lance Hoyt! Oh and actually knowing that it will be released would be nice (just had to do some more bickering). I hope Damian is okay and everything.

[Chibul]

Bottom line: If you can't deliver on a certain date, don't make a guarantee.

[cm_p_u_n_k]

Well said Chibul... a little ruthless, but well said.

[theaddicane]

HOYT HOYT HOYT HOYT!

Also wanting to be david young, becoming the savior of the spinebuster!

[cm_p_u_n_k]

I hope there are alot of legends in. I want to be Scott Steiner and join TNA and dominate. Maybe even a run as Scott Hall would be cool too.

[cm_p_u_n_k]

Calm down! Its people like you who stir things up that are more annoying than people who ask why isn't it out! Thats try and keep this discussion about what your going to do when it gets released, not morale issues.

[Weden]

God bless foresight :D

[cm_p_u_n_k]

I... unfortunatly saw it... there are some screwed up people in this screwed up world...

[gazwefc83]

Is there any word from the creator of this mod as when it mite be released now or why it hasnt been released yet.

[theaddicane]

Well, we all know who will be the next NWA champ, the released charismatic icon that is...........TEST!

Cutting promo after promo till he gets the gold he will be the #1 Indy worker in the whole world!

Or Not.

[Weden]

Damian's on MSN... will we FINALLY see a release?

[cm_p_u_n_k]

My hearts racing... I just... no wait, i didn't. Please Damian, prove your critics wrong (including me) and release it :)

[theaddicane]

LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch LETS GO DAMIEN! release the patch

(chant it like in tna!!!!)

If we all do it, mabye he will hear us!

Heres hoping!

[HHUK]

theaddicane, cool it. No need to post whore in a topic just for the sake of it, he'll release it when he's ready.

[theaddicane]

Lighten Up.

I am one of the main people who said to others to be patient so read the whole topic befor you hit reply.

Post whore? Was it not your mother that slept with all the mail men?

[HHUK]

I have read the whole topic, I've been sitting patiently waiting for it. You say to give him time, then you ask "where is it", then you try to go off topic followed by 2 pointless posts about Hoyt and Test and then you make the most impatient post of them all.

Stop with the petty insult before you go further.

[theaddicane]

Yeah ok, that was harsh, sorry, lets just end it here OK?

We are all waiting for the release and should continue to wait ofr its eventual and anticipaited release, i think we both agree on that!

PS anypost about Hoyt is a post worth reading!!!!

[Chibul]

Damian's on MSN... will we FINALLY see a release?

So why didn't you message him and ask him about it?

[Weden]

So why didn't you message him and ask him about it?

He's turned into a mute and isn't speaking. At all. (He's like this since he logged on)

[dscatx]

I hope these moves are in for Samoa Joe : Choke Sleeper / Choke Sleeper Clutch
Island Driver
Chimeraplex
Dragon Suplex Hold
C.C.S. Enzuigiri
Avalanche Muscle Buster.

Damian, keep up with the good work on the update. Chibul, Relaxed man. He's going to release it soon when he get his server fixed.

[KaySeeDubya]

Edit: Sorry Addicane, didn't see your post after you said that cause I was on a previous page....

Anyway, I hope this is released soon...

[Chibul]

If it's a server issue, I'll be more than happy to host it. There are ways around that...let's just get it up.

[theaddicane]

I am still looking forward to the update, but if it needs more time then it needs more time.

I hope we get it soon, but a message about the progress would be nice.

[Ultima]

I agree that a progress report would be nice, but the more time he has to spend keeping us up to date on the status, the longer it'll be before he's done.

[jksander]

Okay. The guy gave a release date. If it was me, I'd have given a release date to shut you all the hell up too. And you know what? If he hit a snag and couldn't reach an arbitrary deadline on his own project that all YOU have to do is download and play with, so what? If he released it today, and there was a bug that the wrestler YOU wanted to play with wouldn't work, you'd be on here biting a hole in his ass in five minutes.

I almost wish the forum mods would close this thread. Let Damian repost when he has the final version done. That'll shut you all up. And trust me, I've done mod work before. Just to do something "simple" like add an eleven team conference into Tournament Dreams took me NINE HOURS of dedicated work. And that wasn't involving adding real players to the game. What these two are doing here impresses me. And I won't be on here bugging them about when it's coming out, no matter how much I'd want to play it.

[Adam Ryland]

Closed for now, Damian can open a new thread when he gets back, or I'll reopen this one at his request.