T-Zone 2007

[forlan]

Yes, added a long time ago, back when he worked some dates for IPW:UK

[TsuMirren]

RQW, RQW, RQW!!!

Hmmm, SWA...sniff, tears of reminiscent whatever...they've got a show on the 20th, could take the list along and get someone to fill out dates of birth. Pretty much the rest of it I could do and pop it across, could probably do most the shells now actually but the dates of birth are a different matter.

[TsuMirren]

With SWA MUST come Greenock town hall! The only live wrestling I've yet seen was there, I even saw Earthquake and Yokozuna :) It'd be tiny and definitely no hotspot (unless you count the neds that attend to cause trouble...). Although, in saying that, nobody's come here in a while... :(

Oh and bigjabbadudley, a mate of mine was considering joining their trainnig too. You'll need to let us know how you get on!

Yup, it's been a while. The last show at the Town Hall was a charity show run by Spinner McKenzie, before that I was promoting Scottish Championship Wrestling shows there and I'll bet you missed every one because of the Greenock Telegraph's piss poor coverage AND the fact the shopping centre don't allow any posters up..

[flamebrain]

Posters would distract people from the true purpose of the Oak Mall: Selling birthday cards and mobile phones! :)

I miss my local fix of wrestling but now my mate drives I'm hoping we'll be able to attend shows outside this armpit of a town! Its Bellshill and Clydebank lately yeah?


Sorry Forlan, I just wanted to add that I apologise for being the latest to take this thread on a tangent :o

[TsuMirren]

Yup, though they've added Linwood for the 20th...27th is Bellshill.

[aznblusuazn]

I wanted to volunteer to do the title lineage for the project. I wasn't sure of what Legend had done. I would of course get all the active titles, and then work on the defunct promotions that meant something (i.e. AWA, USWA, GWF, etc.).

Just give me the okay to do it, Forlan, and I'll start working on it. I just need the data so that it would be properly linked.

E-mail me at aznblusuazn@aol.com. Thanks.

[Tree]

Then it must be because of where I live. They have a show near me at least 6-7 times a year. Four in Rahway and then three in Edison. Sorry... derailed the thread again.



nah. i live in the area too. they might have their DVDs in a few local stores, but they certainly don't have anything national.

[MrKain]

It's so weird... :( Cause it's so easy for me to get stuff if I just had the money. lol

[jimmy_shakerz]

I wanted to volunteer to do the title lineage for the project. I wasn't sure of what Legend had done. I would of course get all the active titles, and then work on the defunct promotions that meant something (i.e. AWA, USWA, GWF, etc.).

Just give me the okay to do it, Forlan, and I'll start working on it. I just need the data so that it would be properly linked.

E-mail me at aznblusuazn@aol.com. Thanks.


I think the one doing it is already around 3500-4000 lineage so ...

[kevel33]

wow after reading the last page or two of this thread of endless banter about podunk indy feds from the UK, and scrolling through the vastly different locations people have listed next to their name, it really hit me how foreign this forum is. everyone seems so worldy. i feel left out.

[HugeRockStar760]

wow after reading the last page or two of this thread of endless banter about podunk indy feds from the UK, and scrolling through the vastly different locations people have listed next to their name, it really hit me how foreign this forum is. everyone seems so worldy. i feel left out.

It's questionable if those indy feds should be in a mod like this in the first place. In my opinion, the majority of those people clamoring to play any real world mod aren't interested in waiting for bells and whistles like indu UK feds.

Something like that should be in a second update. It's not going affect the overall gameplay if they are not in the game. If what is holding the release up has to do with indy UK feds, it would make more sense to release a file for those who want a traditional game and release a more polished file with all the bells and whistles with a complete game.

[D16NJD16]

it's forlans mod and he's from the UK I believe, so inclusion of more UK feds then there would normally be shouldn't really suprise anyone. I don't mind it so much.

[MrKain]

wow after reading the last page or two of this thread of endless banter about podunk indy feds from the UK, and scrolling through the vastly different locations people have listed next to their name, it really hit me how foreign this forum is. everyone seems so worldy. i feel left out.

What? You're not from this world? Wow. What planet!?

:)

[gingarob]

it's forlans mod and he's from the UK I believe, so inclusion of more UK feds then there would normally be shouldn't really suprise anyone. I don't mind it so much.

I love the inclusion of the UK feds (being from the UK myself) as I personally plan on playing two games, one as TNA and and another with a UK fed.

[Blasphemywebleed]

RQW, RQW, RQW!!!

Hmmm, SWA...sniff, tears of reminiscent whatever...they've got a show on the 20th, could take the list along and get someone to fill out dates of birth. Pretty much the rest of it I could do and pop it across, could probably do most the shells now actually but the dates of birth are a different matter.

Woo i'm going too. Lets all take lists and demand money for exposure lol.

[Blasphemywebleed]

Blasphemy this is what id like done if possible

I need the following SWA people made

Abraxas
Adam Shame
Aidan Corrigan
BT Gunn
Cav
Chris Charizma
Chris Renfrew
CJ Hunter
Damien O'Conor
Darren Lewis
Dean Davis
Dr Laandstrom
Draevyn
Falcon
GC Mac
Glen Dunbar
Grant Dunbar
Hatred
Jamie Walker
Johnny Darko
Jonny Milla
Kaos
KG Tyler
Kolobos
Micken
Pete O'Neil
Sabotage
Shiv
Stevie Aaron
The Butcher
William Grange
White Tiger

For BCW I need the following made

Charles Boddington
Brad Fusion
Colossal Powers
Fight Club
Jack Jester
Kolobus
Liam Thompson
Lionheart
Red Lightning
Tex Benedict
Seamous oh Shanusey (sp)

And if you want to note down arenas or whatever for the people then do that too, thanks

Whoops just noticed this forlan, yeah I'll do them either tonight or tomorrow for you.... Damn work. If any of the other Scottish dudes (im looking at you Mirren and Flamebrain) wanna make a start on it then feel free, you will prob do a better job than me anyway lol

[BigBissMM]

Here in Texas, you very very very very very rarely see any ROH dvds... I think I've seen a couple once at Best Buy...

What Part of Texas are you in?

also Forlan Id be very happy to help with XCW weather it be for the first or second version

[flamebrain]

It's questionable if those indy feds should be in a mod like this in the first place. In my opinion, the majority of those people clamoring to play any real world mod aren't interested in waiting for bells and whistles like indu UK feds.

Something like that should be in a second update. It's not going affect the overall gameplay if they are not in the game. If what is holding the release up has to do with indy UK feds, it would make more sense to release a file for those who want a traditional game and release a more polished file with all the bells and whistles with a complete game.

I usually put them in myself for giggles anyway but to be honest its all a question of perspective as I'm not too fussed about the samller feds from any country being included. Lots of people will want to see a "podunk" fed included, not just UK ones. There's often feds from all countries that I don't see the point of including. In fairness SWA aren't exactly big but what the hey, we're all just passengers on this. Forlan will make the decisions he feels appropriate. :)

I'll take a stab at making them Forlan. I'm not too experienced at it and not as clued up on the scene as I once was but I've got the time on my hands lately :o

[MrCanada]

From testing, TNA Impact pulled a B in the same week as RAW pulled a C+ and Smackdown pulled a B-. Many promotions ar epulling C-C+ at the moment with D's and such the further down the indy scale you go.

AI booking seems fairly decent too, Angle v Joe main evented impact for example.

One thing i cant really stop as i dont know how is WWE canning many staff members then signing a lot of the indy darlings like Alex Shelley, Austin Aries, AJ styles and such to fill out the brands, although in most cases they sign them on PPA's so they can still work elsewhere too, kind of strange.

The reason they aer signing those guys could be because their stats and or overness are overstated making them to appealing to just let sit on the sidelines.

[HHUK]

Give the indy guys a loyalty to their biggest current promotion from the start maybe?

Atleast then WWE would have to pay more to sign them.

[Blasphemywebleed]

I'll take a stab at making them Forlan. I'm not too experienced at it and not as clued up on the scene as I once was but I've got the time on my hands lately :o

Do you mean SWA & BWC? That would be superb if you can do them and i'll help you out with them as I dont have a lot of free time on my hand and think it would be in the best interest of the mod if someone could give it 100%. If theres anything you need for them just let me know and i'll lend a hand as much as possible.

[flamebrain]

Do you mean SWA & BWC? That would be superb if you can do them and i'll help you out with them as I dont have a lot of free time on my hand and think it would be in the best interest of the mod if someone could give it 100%. If theres anything you need for them just let me know and i'll lend a hand as much as possible.

To be honest, anything you can provide would be extremely welcome. I see names on the SWA roster I don't know and I know pretty much nothing of BWC so I'm probably best to leave that to someone else :o

[Blasphemywebleed]

To be honest, anything you can provide would be extremely welcome. I see names on the SWA roster I don't know and I know pretty much nothing of BWC so I'm probably best to leave that to someone else :o

Well why dont you work on SWA and i'll do BWC and then we can help each other out with the finishing touches, a few of the SWA workers are on the BWC roster as well, so it will just be a case of matching up what we have.

[gingarob]

The reason they aer signing those guys could be because their stats and or overness are overstated making them to appealing to just let sit on the sidelines.

This sounds like a very feesable option. In the whole scheme of things I'd say guys like Shelley and Aries would be over compared to many at their level, but anything above a C- outside of their home areas would definately be overkill.

Also, could be something to do with Vince's "personality" maybe give him more of a preference towards hoss' like in real life?

[forlan]

Last night Jamie Dubya off the forums made me SWA, so BCW needs doing.

The Title lineages guy Legendkiller did a great job, plus some of the titles you listed couldn't have the lineages put in because they arent tied to a promotion.

The Uk feds is not what is holding the data up so stop trying to blame them, the real thing holding the data up is the fact i have uni work to do like it or lump it to be honest.

EDIT: Thats what pisses me off most, people like Canada say reduce TNA guys overnesses but they have national exposure and if i reduced them chances are Spike TV would cancel Impact then people would be moaning so either impact can be cancelled or WWE can sign away half of TNA, there really seems to be no middle ground

[HugeRockStar760]

Last night Jamie Dubya off the forums made me SWA, so BCW needs doing.

The Title lineages guy Legendkiller did a great job, plus some of the titles you listed couldn't have the lineages put in because they arent tied to a promotion.

The Uk feds is not what is holding the data up so stop trying to blame them, the real thing holding the data up is the fact i have uni work to do like it or lump it to be honest.

EDIT: Thats what pisses me off most, people like Canada say reduce TNA guys overnesses but they have national exposure and if i reduced them chances are Spike TV would cancel Impact then people would be moaning so either impact can be cancelled or WWE can sign away half of TNA, there really seems to be no middle ground

You really shouldn't be doing the bulk of the work. You should be spreading things out and doing things by committee...Especially for other areas of the game world. I mean, how knowledgeable about lucha libre are you? Your UK promotions will be top notch, but how much do you know about other game areas? Just wondering.

Just don't put the whole burden on yourself. At least you had someone help with the title histories. That is a lot of work there.

[MrKain]

I still think that WWE should be at war with TNA. The reasoning is that the war in the game is a little different than a "war" in real life. In the game the war is a booking war (which is true, they are in a booking war, WWE wants exclusivity with their wrestlers inside their promotion). In real life the war is a ratings war, which isn't what the game's war means at all.

Meh. Either way, I'll just set it that way when I get the mod. So whatever. :)

[TsuMirren]

Hmmm, wonder if Jamie Dubya has intimate knowledge of SWA...dubya being a W of course.

[gingarob]

Thinking about it...who cares if we don't agree with the stats and relationships Forlan assigns people/promotions? It's his mod and we've got to give him massive respect for making it for us. Plus, if it bugs you that much...change it using the editor.

[forlan]

TsuMirren, Jamie informed me he worked there in some capacity, and knew a lot of the guys.

For the guy that ws asking about knowledge etc, your off the mark, yes i have quite a bit of uk knowldge, despite being from the uk my main strength is us indies, billions of dvd's, i also watch quite a bit of puro although im no Lukie or Timmy Vickers, Lucha no one wants to to it but loads want it in, i get periodic pm's from flashmagic with lucha correction tidbits, so yeah i feel im strong enough in my knowledge of US and Canadian Indy promotions and most of UK and Europe. The amount of wrestling dvd's from promotions worldwide that i have sometimes frankly scares me lol

[flamebrain]

Last night Jamie Dubya off the forums made me SWA, so BCW needs doing.

Cool, he'll have done better than I could anyway :) . If there aren't any pics for the guys, I'll work on knocknig them out. I have more ability there than in stat making anyways :o I'll stick 'em on kyky too since everyone hates my background :p

[forlan]

Yeah stick them on kyky since thats the format all the rest of the pics are

[gingarob]

TsuMirren, Jamie informed me he worked there in some capacity, and knew a lot of the guys.

For the guy that ws asking about knowledge etc, your off the mark, yes i have quite a bit of uk knowldge, despite being from the uk my main strength is us indies, billions of dvd's, i also watch quite a bit of puro although im no Lukie or Timmy Vickers, Lucha no one wants to to it but loads want it in, i get periodic pm's from flashmagic with lucha correction tidbits, so yeah i feel im strong enough in my knowledge of US and Canadian Indy promotions and most of UK and Europe. The amount of wrestling dvd's from promotions worldwide that i have sometimes frankly scares me lol

Where do you get your DVDs from Forlan? I'd love to be able to watch more indy wrestling (Japan too) but don't know many sites.

[forlan]

ROHWrestling.com (ROH FIP and SHIMMER etc)
SmartMarkVideo.com (CZW, IWA, CHIKARA, PWU etc)
Highspots.com (Some Jap, some lucha, PWG and more)

[gingarob]

Thanks :)

Supposedly www.purodvd.com is supposed to be good, you ever used that?

[forlan]

I havent but i think Tim Vickers used to, not as fast wit delivery but decent

[skillz17]

so sometime this week?

[forlan]

no one said that, like i said, due to uni work its basically ground to a halt

[Ransik]

I say leave the TNA overness the way you want it to. Other mods for 2005 I've used have all their overness listed as Fs which make them worth the same as any regular wrestler in any promotion in the world... which obviously isn't the case for almost the entire TNA roster. Obviously Angle and Sting will have high overness... Christian should be near them as well.

But I've played mods where guys like BG... Killings... Abyss... all with F for overness which is just plain stupid. I honestly can't remember which but there were 2 mods and TNA would go down in a matter of months the way it was set up. 2 weeks in the TV deal is gone... than the PPV carriers all cancel within a couple months.

But what I always thought was funny about the mods is that TNA itself was about 65% over in the US and all but Sting were about that overness... the rest were about 10-15%. Now tell me how TNA can be that over if 95% of the workers aren't? Makes no sense.

I say leave them for 2 main reasons; so people can actually use TNA... and because the WWE DOES look at guys on the TNA roster quite frequently despite what some smarks will say. VKM were offered deals to go back to the WWE as part of the DX reunion but they turned it down... Samoa Joe, Rhino, AJ Styles, Ron Killings, Monty Brown, Kazarian and a host of others were all watched by WWE at some point. Some just chose to stay and others to go.

[jimmy_shakerz]

News :

Lufisto just announced that she is temporarely leaving the buisiness because of all those injuries. She recently spent 14 hours in a hospital and is waiting to see if she's gonna have to get surgery.

She is vacating her title in CZW as well


January 8th 2007 - Retirement...

Hi everybody,

Unfortunately, there comes a time when your body tells you it’s time to stop. Sometimes, you just won’t listen and sometimes, you just have no more choices to listen and comply…

I’ve been having back pain since October but never did anything about it. I really thought it was something stupid, like simple muscle ache. Then, after every match, I was in pain. Last Saturday was no different as on the first fall I took, my back completely went numb.

I manage to finish the match and drive back home but the next day, things just got worst. As I was doing dead lifts, my back just let go. I heard a click, it burned and felt like my whole bones where squashed… So, I spent more than 14 hours at the emergency…

Two of my vertebras are in bad shape and I’m waiting to know if I need surgery. Of course, I won’t risk anything this time and I will be responsible about this.

Therefore, no more wrestling…

Am I retiring? I don’t like the word retirement because when you wrestle, it’s in your blood and too many people who are “retiring” are back in the ring a while after.

The only thing I can say is that I’m not wrestling anymore, for now. I’ll see what the doctor says, what the results of the CT Scan I’m having tonight will say. Depending if it’s a good or bad news, I will make a decision about my wrestling future in about 3 months.

I unfortunately have to cancel all my bookings and forfeit my CZW Iron-Man championship, which has been my pride and joy.

My career, if we can call it a career, lasted close to 9 years…

Is it over? Only time will tell but I will have to slow down if I do decide to come back. I don’t know if I’ll update this website in the upcoming months. I guess I’ll see how it goes and how I feel …

I’m still dealing with all this so I won’t say more right now. If you are interested in buying some of my gear and boots, most of them are available. I’ll keep just a few in case but that’s about it. DVDs and shirts are also still available if you want to keep some LuFisto souvenirs.

The next three months will be quite challenging. Thank you so much for all the support and love throughout all those wonderful 9 years. I don’t have any regrets as I did more than people expected me to do.

I love you guys so much.

LuFisto xxx

[flamebrain]

News :

Lufisto just announced that she is temporarely leaving the buisiness because of all those injuries. She recently spent 14 hours in a hospital and is waiting to see if she's gonna have to get surgery.

She is vacating her title in CZW as well


Its sucky news but news all the same. She was always the backbone of any women's division I formed :(

[Sensai of Mattitude]

Sorry for off topicness, I'm just taking a look at the DVDs on Ring of Honor's site... I haven't really seen a full show yet, but I'm big on alot of guys like CM Punk and Samoa Joe, would you guys advise me to go fr some Best of DVDs or some of the actual shows?

[D16NJD16]

The entire catalog is worth watching, honest to god, but if you dont have that kind of time or money, just start from a certain year, and watch in chrological order. 2006 was an awesome year, the best IMO, so go with that.

[Sensai of Mattitude]

Alright, thanks. I'm gonna go with the Best of CM Punk Vol. 2 (the first isn't Region 0, so it might not work on my DVD player) then get 2 or so of the complete events.

[MrKain]

2004 was ****ing sweet, too. Just so you know. But yeah, 2006 was nice, minus Homicide winning the belt at the ass-end of the year. Right after Danielson brought prestige to the belt, and then having a great match with Nigel McGuinness to combine the Pure and World belts... and then of all people Homicide who can't tech his way through a straight line... *sigh*

[Sensai of Mattitude]

To be honest, I'm completely lost for choice here, is there any 2 DVDs that stand out from the rest and you guys would recommend?

[kevel33]

I don't know, get Joe Vs. Kobashi and Supercard Of Honor with the crazy Dragon's Gate match.

[D16NJD16]

Right after Danielson brought prestige to the belt, and then having a great match with Nigel McGuinness to combine the Pure and World belts... and then of all people Homicide who can't tech his way through a straight line... *sigh*

You must not have seen the show. It went over tremendously. And I can't say that I think one of ROH's top priorities right now should be getting the world title a few more specs of prestiege.

[MrKain]

Hey, I didn't say it didn't go over. I'm just saying I hate Homicide, and therefore I don't like the champion right now. I personally liked the technical wrestlers of ROH, not the hardcore guys... Homicide just reminds me of a slightly talented chair swinger... not a real wrestler.

It's a ring of HONOR... and yet his matches have to include some sort of dishonorable act at one point or another. Meh. Just my opinion.

[gingarob]

Hey, I didn't say it didn't go over. I'm just saying I hate Homicide, and therefore I don't like the champion right now. I personally liked the technical wrestlers of ROH, not the hardcore guys... Homicide just reminds me of a slightly talented chair swinger... not a real wrestler.

It's a ring of HONOR... and yet his matches have to include some sort of dishonorable act at one point or another. Meh. Just my opinion.

Homicide is a great wrestler. Sure he may not be the best technical worker out there and his matches are dishonourable because he's a HEEL! However, he is a great wrestler nonetheless.

[D16NJD16]

Yeah, like I was going to say before someone stole my thunder, he is a heel. Should have seen it in New York that night though, totally the crowd favorite. Being there was an amazing atmosphere.

[TsuMirren]

Noticed a post about sources for dvds...

www.wrestlingdvd.co.uk (I think that's right, try www.simaniaco.uk for the link if not)

BUY, BUY, BUY, BUY, BUY!!!!!!!!! Oh and drop my name, could do with some freebies.

[forlan]

Erm...i dont think the board owners would like you putting up sites which sell "copies" of DVD's

[flamebrain]

Put up those SWA pics for anyone that's interested :)

Whammy! (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=181779#post181779)

[DarkMaverick87]

correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't this topic about T-Zone and not dvds?

[D16NJD16]

correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't this topic about T-Zone and not dvds?

You stand corrected~!

[TsuMirren]

You mean it's not about ****e garbage workers, pretending they've had a wrestling career and announcing a hiatus from the "business"???

Anyway, I don 't think Si sells copies of anything you can buy in the UK or that contravenes UK copyright law.

[ccgmacc69]

First off, I'm new to this forum but I have all the latest GDS games including TEW 07. I really am enjoying this game so far. I would love to play with "real" characters which leads me to this post. First and for most I would like to send thanks and apprieciation to the guys that work VOLUNTARILY on making these mods for us that don't know what the hell we're doing. I haven't used T-Zone but by the anticipatin that everyone is showing for the mod, I too have fell in line as well. Don't mean to ramble, just saying thanks for the hard work and glad to be here.

[Blasphemywebleed]

First off, I'm new to this forum but I have all the latest GDS games including TEW 07. I really am enjoying this game so far. I would love to play with "real" characters which leads me to this post. First and for most I would like to send thanks and apprieciation to the guys that work VOLUNTARILY on making these mods for us that don't know what the hell we're doing. I haven't used T-Zone but by the anticipatin that everyone is showing for the mod, I too have fell in line as well. Don't mean to ramble, just saying thanks for the hard work and glad to be here.

Welcome to the forum now get in line :p. Its refreshing to see someone who appreciates what the mod makers do as well. Its a difficult situation take your time on the mod and get flamed by impatient annoying people, or release it too early and get flamed by complaints from the same annoying people.

[flamebrain]

Welcome to the forum now get in line :p. Its refreshing to see someone who appreciates what the mod makers do as well. Its a difficult situation take your time on the mod and get flamed by impatient annoying people, or release it too early and get flamed by complaints from the same annoying people.

Flamed if you do, flamed if you don't :)

[Blasphemywebleed]

Flamed if you do, flamed if you don't :)

*Drum Roll* Bravo... Bravo :D

[MikeyMayhem]

t-zone is the cats meow there pretty wicked

[MrKain]

You mean it's not about ****e garbage workers, pretending they've had a wrestling career and announcing a hiatus from the "business"???

Are you SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY, calling LuFisto and Bryan Danielson ****ty? As I remember it, both are outstanding indy performers. Both were looked at by WWE at one point or another, in fact Danielson is being looked at right NOW... Both have been put through hell in their own careers, one, a guy who wrestles night in night out in, usually, the longest match of the night in ROH, the other, a girl who, at half the weight and half the height, takes on MEN in matches, and is respected enough backstage to actually WIN.

Sure, they're not in the WWE, but they do their best to entertain, and unlike some, they actually have talent. Some people just don't make it to the big time because the WWE doesn't like their look. If the WWE went by talent, do you REALLY think that Sick Nick Mondo would have ever had to take that bump in CZW? If the WWE went only by talent, do you seriously think that The Great Khali would be in the WWE at all?

*sigh* I've derailed this topic tenfold, and I'm sorry. But I ****ing HATE people who don't respect the indy wrestlers just because they might do hardcore matches... People have to find their niche... and if the WWE doesn't want to show them their niche, then they have to do it some other way.

Now back to topic...

T-Zone. :) Prepare for awesomeness, as I'm sure it will be. :)

[forlan]

I actually think he "may" of been referring ro Simon "Ransik" Starr

[MrKain]

I actually think he "may" of been referring ro Simon "Ransik" Starr

Possibly, but still, I get angry with people who say **** about wrestlers, but haven't been in a ring to understand the pain. Sometimes people just can't take it. I know I can't. I busted my back in the middle of a practice, and haven't been back since.

Call me what you will, but don't get upset about the people who actually went out there and got hurt. Sheesh. So what if he's not the greatest talent. He tried.

And this time, forlan, YOU derailed your own topic! Shame on you! lol

[sneedo]

You stand corrected~!

gah keep that gay ~! at the f4w board, thx.

[ballerzinc]

I just have one question on this mod. Will promotions actually keep their TV shows or will they lose them easiily when their contract is up. Also will they gain TV shows?

[forlan]

Thats not something i can set in stone, it depends on various factors that change as the game world progresses

[bigjabbadudley]

so hows this going forlan, if you need any help let me know there may be something i can help with hopefully to speed things up and take some burden off you bud

[Roberto]

Forlan

Have heard a report that FWA (in the UK) have closed down :( but cannot substantiate it.

Their website is down, but that does not prove anything.

Can anyone closer to the UK scene confirm or deny?

If true, this might save you a little work.

[davidEFC]

http://www.fwatraining.co.uk/ Last show for the acadmeny which is shutting down but this is on UKFF regarding the FWA itself

Dear All

We would like to clarify that this announcement has no effect on the FWA proper, which will be continuing and fully intends to continue once we have seen to the small matter on March 16 in Broxbourne.

Thanks

Greg and Mark

[HHUK]

FWA's website moved a while back to http://www.frontierwrestling.co.uk/ instead of their old .com name.

There's no indication of them closing down on some fan forums, the official site seems usual. The academy has definitely shut down though, shame. :(

[Ransik]

Don't know why he'd be referring to me, I don't even have a clue who the guy is. But yeah... last night I took minimal bumps and today my back is killing me and my knee is swollen up which is the reason why I'm done with wrestling full-time and why I'm switching over to becoming a referee. Even with my schedule being less than half of the normal Indy worker it's just too much for my body to handle from previous injuries in and out of the business... so meh.

It's not like O ever did insane hardcore matches... barb wire matches... any of that stuff. I just have bad knees and as bad back and I can't keep it up anymore.

[Sartagis]

Thanks :)

Supposedly www.purodvd.com is supposed to be good, you ever used that?
If you want puro on DVD shop at PuroDVDSource (http://df14.dot5hosting.com/~purodvds/). There's none better.

[forlan]

FWA will be closing because their war with IPW:UK will end one of the promotions its been confirmed and since FWA is the much worse off promotion these days itll be them that die off come march

[SasoreGatame]

If you want puro on DVD shop at PuroDVDSource (http://df14.dot5hosting.com/~purodvds/). There's none better.

IVPVideos.com

$2.99 DVDs.

[Tree]

Hey, I didn't say it didn't go over. I'm just saying I hate Homicide, and therefore I don't like the champion right now. I personally liked the technical wrestlers of ROH, not the hardcore guys... Homicide just reminds me of a slightly talented chair swinger... not a real wrestler.

It's a ring of HONOR... and yet his matches have to include some sort of dishonorable act at one point or another. Meh. Just my opinion.

come on, you've got to be kidding. for real?

1. drop the ring of HONOR crap. it was a gimmick used to help get Christopher Daniels and the Prophecy over. some of the best matches in ROH this year - such as Cage of Death - included "dishonorable" acts.

2. as for Homicide not being a "real" wrestler, you REALLY, REALLY need to go study up some. Homicide is probably one of the best technical wrestlers on the roster - but he can also brawl, use weapons, or whatever. there's a reason why dozens of wrestlers have trained under him, up to and including Low Ki.

[Tree]

Yeah, like I was going to say before someone stole my thunder, he is a heel. Should have seen it in New York that night though, totally the crowd favorite. Being there was an amazing atmosphere.

nah. he's not a heel anymore. hasn't been since the summer, when he helped ROH against CZW at Death Before Dishonor IV.

[Tree]

To be honest, I'm completely lost for choice here, is there any 2 DVDs that stand out from the rest and you guys would recommend?

are you looking for just two outstanding shows, or to start a collection?

ROH essentially goes in "chapter points". things that happen in one show play a major role in future shows.

if you're looking for just two random cards from 2006, i'd reccomend Glory By Honor V, Night Two (from NY), and either SuperCard of Honor (from Detroit) or Unified (from Liverpool).

but if you're looking to start with the most recent "chapter", start with Weekend of Champions, Night One (from Dayton).

according to Gabe Sapolsky, here are the chapters for ROH:

Chapter 1: 2/23/02 "Era Of Honor Begins" to 2/8/03 "First Anniversary Show"
Chapter 2: 3/15/03 "Expect The Unexpected" to 3/12/04 "At Our Best"
Chapter 3: 4/23/04 "Reborn: Stage One" to 12/26/04 "Final Battle 2004"
Chapter 4: 1/15/05 "It All Begins" to 6/12/05 "The Future Is Now"
Chapter 5: 6/18/05 "Death Before Dishonor III" to 8/12/05 "Redemption"
Chapter 6: 8/13/05 "Punk: The Final Chapter" to 2/11/06 "Unscripted II"
Chapter 7: 2/25/06 "Fourth Anniversary Show" to 4/22/06 "The 100th Show"
Chapter 8: 4/28/06 "Weekend Of Champions: Night One" to 12/23/06 "Final Battle 2006"

also, note this comment from him, from the ROH message board:

if you are new to ROH I suggest you begin with one of the chapter starting points. Of course to get the most out of ROH it would be best to start with the first show. If you want to be current you might want to start with one of the recent chapter points.

I do feel that it is extremely important that you start with a chapter point rather than a random show in the middle of the chapter. You wouldn't want to see Kill Bill Vol. 2 without seeing Vol. 1 first.

also, you could ask my opinion as well, since i've been to 79 ROH shows. :o)

[MrKain]

come on, you've got to be kidding. for real?

1. drop the ring of HONOR crap. it was a gimmick used to help get Christopher Daniels and the Prophecy over. some of the best matches in ROH this year - such as Cage of Death - included "dishonorable" acts.

First off just because it was a good match doesn't mean it fit in the federation. Hell, CZW could have an amazing puro match in one of it's cards, but it wouldn't make sense to have one... I liked the gimmick of honor, and personally would have liked for that gimmick to be a part of the federation, like it is for most of the matches.

2. as for Homicide not being a "real" wrestler, you REALLY, REALLY need to go study up some. Homicide is probably one of the best technical wrestlers on the roster - but he can also brawl, use weapons, or whatever. there's a reason why dozens of wrestlers have trained under him, up to and including Low Ki.

I don't consider any brawler a "real" wrestler. Even if they're the most technically sound wrestler, if they cut their moveset to three tech moves and all brawling just to fit their "thug" gimmick, I'm not a fan. Why? Cause I hate the gimmick, and I hate the mindless hardcore brawl. I wasn't a fan of ECW no matter how exciting it got, I just couldn't get into it like my friends did. It's just me, and the way I think.

I know Homicide could be technically sound, I've seen the wrestlers he's trained and the ability they have, and I know that they learned from somewhere... but Homicide mainly goes for his gimmick, and rather than impress me with his talent, he brawls and uses weapons, which doesn't impress me. That's just my opinion. And seriously, I don't think that ROH needs a "Stone Cold Steve Austin" heel that gets cheers. I think they need the return of the Samoa Joe legacy, proving their merit through true competition.

I liked ROH for its spirit of competition. Not for it trying to be like everyone else. Homicide is like everyone else. And for that, I'm not impressed.

[y2jbrock]

Is Wrestling Society X on this update? Just saw the trailer, it looks real good.

[creepshow]

I don't consider any brawler a "real" wrestler. Even if they're the most technically sound wrestler, if they cut their moveset to three tech moves and all brawling just to fit their "thug" gimmick, I'm not a fan. Why? Cause I hate the gimmick, and I hate the mindless hardcore brawl. I wasn't a fan of ECW no matter how exciting it got, I just couldn't get into it like my friends did. It's just me, and the way I think.

I know Homicide could be technically sound, I've seen the wrestlers he's trained and the ability they have, and I know that they learned from somewhere... but Homicide mainly goes for his gimmick, and rather than impress me with his talent, he brawls and uses weapons, which doesn't impress me. That's just my opinion. And seriously, I don't think that ROH needs a "Stone Cold Steve Austin" heel that gets cheers. I think they need the return of the Samoa Joe legacy, proving their merit through true competition.

I liked ROH for its spirit of competition. Not for it trying to be like everyone else. Homicide is like everyone else. And for that, I'm not impressed.

you are out of your element here sir. Homicide is a very technically sound wrestler, probably one of the best on the roster....the fact that you have only seen him in brawls just speaks to the fact that you aren't that familiar with the ROH product. Also, the ROH fan base isn't looking for a "heel that gets cheers", they are looking for someone who represents ROH...and next to Danielson and Joe, Homicide is ROH through and through. It's not about being a heel....Homicide is a face. He's a guy you can get behind. You're just not up to date on the storylines.

and as far as Homicide being like everyone else...the only guy I can think of that's anything like him is B-Boy. Homicide came first....

and if you so much as utter the words "New Jack", I swear to god.

[TsuMirren]

Come on Forlan, I'm hyping this up over at the UK Fan Forum and expectation is at fever pitch. hehe

[bigjabbadudley]

as much as i would love for this to come out in the next day or 2 i cant see it happening, as forlan said he is a very busy man , and i would rather have a near perfect up to date mod rather than one thats half assed and incomplete,








c'mon forlan get your finnger out of your ass


lol J/K

[MrKain]

you are out of your element here sir. Homicide is a very technically sound wrestler, probably one of the best on the roster....the fact that you have only seen him in brawls just speaks to the fact that you aren't that familiar with the ROH product. Also, the ROH fan base isn't looking for a "heel that gets cheers", they are looking for someone who represents ROH...and next to Danielson and Joe, Homicide is ROH through and through. It's not about being a heel....Homicide is a face. He's a guy you can get behind. You're just not up to date on the storylines.

and as far as Homicide being like everyone else...the only guy I can think of that's anything like him is B-Boy. Homicide came first....

and if you so much as utter the words "New Jack", I swear to god.

Did you ever read my post? I've seen him in many different types of matches, but the fact that he dumbs down his moveset most of the time to be a brawler is what bothers me about him. It's what bothered me about Stone Cold, and it's what bothers me about John Cena. They'd rather let their gimmick talk for them. I KNOW Homicide has a wide variety of moves, as I said I've seen who he has taught, and they had to learn from somewhere.

But he mainly dumbs his character down to brawling, and I hate his gimmick. Why can't I dislike someone EVER without people getting upset with me because it's like "not allowed"? It's like I have to like everyone that's good, just because they're good. "Thou shalt not like bad people, thou shalt only like good people, if thou not liketh whateveryone else liketh, thou shalt be lambasted."

Want to hear a couple of other people I don't like? Hulk Hogan. Bret Hart. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Doug Williams. Want to lambaste me for those, too?

I don't like Homicide. I don't like his gimmick. I don't like him as champ. You have a problem with it, two words.

**** you.

Cool? Cool. Sheesh. I never stated that I think he should die, and I never complained about you liking him. And now I'm being "fact"-ed to death because of it.

[jonlawson]

Glad to see T-Zone still around

[D16NJD16]

Did you ever read my post? I've seen him in many different types of matches, but the fact that he dumbs down his moveset most of the time to be a brawler is what bothers me about him. It's what bothered me about Stone Cold, and it's what bothers me about John Cena. They'd rather let their gimmick talk for them. I KNOW Homicide has a wide variety of moves, as I said I've seen who he has taught, and they had to learn from somewhere.

But he mainly dumbs his character down to brawling, and I hate his gimmick. Why can't I dislike someone EVER without people getting upset with me because it's like "not allowed"? It's like I have to like everyone that's good, just because they're good. "Thou shalt not like bad people, thou shalt only like good people, if thou not liketh whateveryone else liketh, thou shalt be lambasted."

Want to hear a couple of other people I don't like? Hulk Hogan. Bret Hart. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Doug Williams. Want to lambaste me for those, too?

I don't like Homicide. I don't like his gimmick. I don't like him as champ. You have a problem with it, two words.

**** you.

Cool? Cool. Sheesh. I never stated that I think he should die, and I never complained about you liking him. And now I'm being "fact"-ed to death because of it.


Well I'm not saying whatever your getting mad about, but I think you obviously just have no appreciation for a good brawler. Brawling is as much a part of wrestling history as anything else, and GOOD brawling takes plenty of talent.

[flamebrain]

:confused:

In the words of Jack Nicholson: "Little people, can't we all just... get along?"

[kevel33]

You have a problem with it, two words.

**** you.

Cool? Cool. Sheesh. I never stated that I think he should die, and I never complained about you liking him. And now I'm being "fact"-ed to death because of it.


and people dont like ME?!

[Tree]

First off just because it was a good match doesn't mean it fit in the federation. Hell, CZW could have an amazing puro match in one of it's cards, but it wouldn't make sense to have one... I liked the gimmick of honor, and personally would have liked for that gimmick to be a part of the federation, like it is for most of the matches.



I don't consider any brawler a "real" wrestler. Even if they're the most technically sound wrestler, if they cut their moveset to three tech moves and all brawling just to fit their "thug" gimmick, I'm not a fan. Why? Cause I hate the gimmick, and I hate the mindless hardcore brawl. I wasn't a fan of ECW no matter how exciting it got, I just couldn't get into it like my friends did. It's just me, and the way I think.

I know Homicide could be technically sound, I've seen the wrestlers he's trained and the ability they have, and I know that they learned from somewhere... but Homicide mainly goes for his gimmick, and rather than impress me with his talent, he brawls and uses weapons, which doesn't impress me. That's just my opinion. And seriously, I don't think that ROH needs a "Stone Cold Steve Austin" heel that gets cheers. I think they need the return of the Samoa Joe legacy, proving their merit through true competition.

I liked ROH for its spirit of competition. Not for it trying to be like everyone else. Homicide is like everyone else. And for that, I'm not impressed.

1. you are correct. just because it isn't a good match doesn't mean it fits the wrestling company. however, if you've been watching ROH for the past couple of years, going back AT LEAST to March of 2004 and the Samoa Joe-Jay Briscoe cage match at At Our Best, you would know that ROH long ago became more of a hybrid company, involving all aspects of professional wrestling, from brawling and hardcore to technical and scientific to high-flying and spot fests.

some of the most enjoyable matches in ROH this year have been ones that featured brawls around the buildings and outside (Mark Briscoe's SSP off the truck - holy ****!) to ultra-violent matches like Cage of Death and the BJ Whitmer-Necro Butcher barbed wire match to "technical matches" where the most remembered moment was gross and violent (Nigel McGuiness' multiple head butts into the ring post during his match with Bryan Danielson in England).

ROH leaving behing the gimmick of "honor" was the best thing they company could have done. if they were still doing now what they did in 2002 - well, they wouldn't be. they'd be out of business.

2. Homicide brawls and uses weapons when he needs to - but his matches are filled with tons of wrestling moves that i can't even begin to name. maybe you're so blinded by your hatred of the brawl, but the reality is that his matches are a lot more than punch, stomp, stab.

3. as for your assertation about Samoa Joe and "merit through true competition," remember that one of his biggest moves is "illegal" and happens outside of the ring.

[pete]

come on

[MrKain]

It's not the hatred of the brawl, per se, that makes me dislike Homicide as much as I do (though it does help a hel of a lot, as I like wrestling and not brwaling, stated before)... it's more his gimmick. I hate the thug anti-hero. Just what I think. I don't like Homicide. I don't like John "I R A RAPPER!" Cena. I don't like Stone Cold Steve Austin. It's just me.

I still liked the honor gimmick of the federation. And yes, one of the moves Joe had is illegal... Fine. I'll accept that honor is toned down... but I'd still rather just have a great technical match like Punk/Joe II... rather than a hardcore brawl like Ring of Homicide.

I still don't like the gimmick, and will still not like Homicide as a champ. Why is it that you have to try and force me to like him? I don't like him, that's all!

Jesus.

Again, I'm sorry for derailing the thread, but I don't get why people have to shove facts down my throat expecting me to suddenly go "HOMOcide R Teh Greatest! I R ADMITTRZ DuhFEET!"

[KRadiation]

i didnt see anyone trying to force you into anything.

They were just pointing out you were wrong, and your opinion was based on that

[flamebrain]

So..... T-Zone eh? :o

[cyberkitten01]

So.. Iraq eh? I kid! I kid!

T-Zone :D

[LeeAndrew]

It's very fitting that someone who is anti-brawling likes Samoa Joe matches because that guy never does any brawling.

Anyway, enough sarcasm, back to the topic at hand before Forlan breaks out a T-Zone Suplex.

[HugeRockStar760]

Is it really practical to hold up the release of this mod due to wanting to add obscure UK indy wrestlers and promotions? If you're going to go into detail like this for your home country, it would be consistent that you also go into detail for any indy lucha feds and puro feds.

[flamebrain]

You are acting like Forlan has to answer to us all. He will release it when he is ready to. The guy has a life outside of T-Zone and its not like he's getting paid for this. We should be supportive of the effort he's putting in for our benefit.

[Blasphemywebleed]

Is it really practical to hold up the release of this mod due to wanting to add obscure UK indy wrestlers and promotions? If you're going to go into detail like this for your home country, it would be consistent that you also go into detail for any indy lucha feds and puro feds.


Its forlans mod, he includes what he wants in it, at the end of the day he could just say f*uck you im using it for my own personal use f*uck the rest of you. So i'd be patient.

[MrKain]

i didnt see anyone trying to force you into anything.

They were just pointing out you were wrong, and your opinion was based on that

Please explain to me how my opinion that "I don't like Homicide" is wrong, though. I'll admit that my wording was incorrect in ways, as I know that Homicide could really have good technical matches when he wants to, but that doesn't change my stance that I don't like him as the champ, and I hate his gimmick. So in the end, my opinion still stands.

[SageFury268]

I wouldn't take MrKain here all too seriously, he probably went to an ROH show and got cursed out by Homicide for being a redneck or a honky like everyone does, and just doesn't get it.

[The Gaz]

^ Lol

Anyway I feel sorry for Forlan. You guys are makin a mess of his thread the poor guy.

[Sons of Kohral]

T-ZONE!!! YAY! I can't wait!

[Ransik]

He personally doesn't like the gimmick, the character or the style... who the hell cares? Let him have his opinion and get over it already.

[gingarob]

T-ZONE!!! YAY! I can't wait!

I agree with this guy :D

Less of the hate for each other and more of the love for the mod :p

[MrKain]

I wouldn't take MrKain here all too seriously, he probably went to an ROH show and got cursed out by Homicide for being a redneck or a honky like everyone does, and just doesn't get it.

LOL. It would be funny if that were the case. I'm Puerto Rican, though, so I wouldn't have gotten that treatment. Nah... I just don't like the gimmick. I'm not a big fan of the "hip hop" or "gangsta" culture. Music is fine, but everyone dressing like their clothes don't fit, and three bandannas under a baseball cap and a platinum grill... no thanks.

I also don't like ignorant speech. Slang has never gone over well with me, and mispronouncing words just because your favorite musician does, and turning that mispronounciation into an actual "word" to top it off... that just irks me to no end. So I've never been a fan of his gimmick, since day one. And the fact that he started to dumb down his moveset to fit the gimmick more, drives me up a wall.

That's why I don't like him. I think he's very talented, but I just don't like him.

[D16NJD16]

Does anyone seriously care about the state of a thread, or if it veers off into a DVD discussion or an arguement or two? I think that's overrated. Hell all it's doing in my opinion is giving me something to read and killing time until this mod is released.

[MrKain]

Good point. Especially since there hasn't been a lot of info flopping around anyway...

Though I would like to hear some new info if there is any...

[creepshow]

Did you ever read my post? I've seen him in many different types of matches, but the fact that he dumbs down his moveset most of the time to be a brawler is what bothers me about him. It's what bothered me about Stone Cold, and it's what bothers me about John Cena. They'd rather let their gimmick talk for them. I KNOW Homicide has a wide variety of moves, as I said I've seen who he has taught, and they had to learn from somewhere.

But he mainly dumbs his character down to brawling, and I hate his gimmick. Why can't I dislike someone EVER without people getting upset with me because it's like "not allowed"? It's like I have to like everyone that's good, just because they're good. "Thou shalt not like bad people, thou shalt only like good people, if thou not liketh whateveryone else liketh, thou shalt be lambasted."

Want to hear a couple of other people I don't like? Hulk Hogan. Bret Hart. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Doug Williams. Want to lambaste me for those, too?

I don't like Homicide. I don't like his gimmick. I don't like him as champ. You have a problem with it, two words.

**** you.

Cool? Cool. Sheesh. I never stated that I think he should die, and I never complained about you liking him. And now I'm being "fact"-ed to death because of it.

Wow, I'm sorry I didn't "read" your post and I'm ever so sorry that I have no comprehension of your wrestling knowledge

I don't have a problem with your OPINION, I was just stating that I disagree

I am not a huge fan of Homicide as a wrestler, but to say he's not deserving as a champ is just silly

think of that what you will...if you don't like that...**** yourself

[MrKain]

Sweet! I respect you now.

All of the rest you? **** YOU! :)

[Johnny Fenoli]

Sweet! I respect you now.

All of the rest you? **** YOU! :)

Now that the noob spat is over... can we get back to TZone?



JK :D

[Adam Ryland]

MrKain and creepshow, if you must continue your "debate", take it to Private Message. I've had a few complaints about you, so if it continues in this thread you'll both get an official warning.

[Carter]

Any update today? I appreciate your work amongst your uni endeavors!

[KRadiation]

complaints?

You're joking right?

Someone actually went out of their way to complain that the posts were off topic... and it should ONLY EVER be about the mod... which for anyone with eyes... can read 'IT'S ON HOLD WHILE HE DOES HIS UNI WORK'

Holy crap... what a boring useless life they must have!

[HugeRockStar760]

To be fair, it seems the inclusion of obscure UK indy promotions is the major factor in any release of T-Zone. It would be more practical to release something rather than bells and whistles of UK indy promotions. Because if you're going to add all these UK indy promotions, to be authentic, you should add every mexican, japanese, italian, and even german indy feds.

I just don't see the point in taking time to add promotions and workers that the majority of the mod's users will never use.

[Eric Steel]

To be fair, it is his mod and he can add all the bells and whistles he wants. If you were to decide that you wanted to make a mod. I would not tell you what you should put in and leave out of your mod.

[AdmiralZ]

But too many promotions, especially indies aren't always a good thing. If you go too far, you've got colossal loading times and a load of promotions and workers that you'll never use and that will probably go out of business after a few months anyway.

[gingarob]

You people do realise he's only adding a select few UK feds? There are tonnes that could be going in but aren't. So quit complaining and have some f**king patience.

[TsuMirren]

Damnd cheek, considering the amount of zero use US feds that go in all because someone says "add XXX, they got 200 at their last show and are kinda sorta well known in the street the venue is on"

Plus, Forlan is actually from the UK. You'll notice every US based current time data maker got sick of all the bs!

[MrKain]

Hey, I'm from the US, and I'm all for him adding as many fed as he deems necessary.

Hell, if he delved into German touring groups and Australian/Chinese federations... I'd be thrilled just to be able to look the feds over and see how much more people study the business than I do. :)

[PoisonedSuperman]

Hey Forlan, I was wondering if wrestling society X is going to be involved in this? I seen the commercial on MTV today.

[RayW]

To be fair, it seems the inclusion of obscure UK indy promotions is the major factor in any release of T-Zone. It would be more practical to release something rather than bells and whistles of UK indy promotions. Because if you're going to add all these UK indy promotions, to be authentic, you should add every mexican, japanese, italian, and even german indy feds.

I just don't see the point in taking time to add promotions and workers that the majority of the mod's users will never use.

If we were going by that general opinion, then I'd be all for exluding almost 50% of the independant promotions from the United States and Canada, since in my opinion, they are useless.

I'll be one of the people that will use the UK data more often than not, and if it's only a small percentage of people that will use the UK data, it's still worth having it in there.

You cannot had a double standard. If Forlan was taking his time in adding as many American indy promotions, would you still be frustrated? There are plenty of American promotions in the game, and perhaps Forlan feels it's time to strecth the game into other areas more.

Just be patient, and if you can't, then try your hand at making your own mod. That way you can make it just as you want it.

RayW.

[Johnny Fenoli]

Hey Forlan, I was wondering if wrestling society X is going to be involved in this? I seen the commercial on MTV today.

Man WSX is building a big buzz!

Every board I go to people are talking about it, even on the AllHipHop.com boards. the ECWwrestlingNews.com boards, everywhere!


Only down side I see to it? 30 minute shows....

MTV Bands playing through the show...

and the model/actor, hand picked crowds...

[HugeRockStar760]

If we were going by that general opinion, then I'd be all for exluding almost 50% of the independant promotions from the United States and Canada, since in my opinion, they are useless.

I'll be one of the people that will use the UK data more often than not, and if it's only a small percentage of people that will use the UK data, it's still worth having it in there.

You cannot had a double standard. If Forlan was taking his time in adding as many American indy promotions, would you still be frustrated? There are plenty of American promotions in the game, and perhaps Forlan feels it's time to strecth the game into other areas more.

Just be patient, and if you can't, then try your hand at making your own mod. That way you can make it just as you want it.

RayW.

I understand it would seem there would be a double standard. In fact, I wouldn't want any obscure american indy feds either. I'm of the opinion that for a first release, it should contain what the majority of users find important. I think that if a user wants numerous indy promotions it should be up to them to add them. After all, who is going to know more about a local indy promotion than someone who lives in that region to begin with?

[bigjabbadudley]

i thin there is only going to be 5-6 uk feds anyway


BCW:UK
SWA
FWA (maybe)
WZW
IPW:uk

might be one more, thats it

[Benneto]

im from the north east of england and WZW isnt as big as 3CW up here so wouldnt it be better having 3CW then WZW

[bigjabbadudley]

3cw rings a bell , that could be the 6th one

[RayW]

I understand it would seem there would be a double standard. In fact, I wouldn't want any obscure american indy feds either. I'm of the opinion that for a first release, it should contain what the majority of users find important. I think that if a user wants numerous indy promotions it should be up to them to add them. After all, who is going to know more about a local indy promotion than someone who lives in that region to begin with?

While I understand what you mean, and in some ways I agree, it's still entirely upto Forlan when he releases the data. If he still feels it's incomplete, and doesn't want to release it until it's so-so, then that's his perogative.

I'm sure it'll be out soon, in the mean time, why not mess around with a converted version from 2005, or the "Montreal Aftermath" data that is already out?

[Maxi]

Perhaps you should add APW as a future promotion ?

Premiering in June 2007 with Tabula Rasa, there promotion is ran by Kriss Sprules (that's right...) and they currently have Brent Albright and Sheamus O'Shaunessy scheduled to appear.

http://anarchywrestling.awardspace.com/index.html

[djthefunkchris]

I understand it would seem there would be a double standard. In fact, I wouldn't want any obscure american indy feds either. I'm of the opinion that for a first release, it should contain what the majority of users find important. I think that if a user wants numerous indy promotions it should be up to them to add them. After all, who is going to know more about a local indy promotion than someone who lives in that region to begin with?

The biggest draw to the T-Zone stuff is well..................It's always HUGE, GIGANTIC, USEFULL, EASY TO UPDATE (far as the stuff that happens in place's you care about).

Tomorrow's stars have a way of already being included in T-Zone in these place's most don't ever look. You can find just about anyone that's popular today (far as that was working as a wrestler) in the last T-Zone dataset.

It's his thing, it's what makes his mod Shine. FOTORC eliminates alot of the things your talking about, and it shines because of it's use of "what we want".

There is various reasons people get certain mods...

DOTT - Historical and for alot of us, just the remembrance of yesturday, nostalgia, type of mod. Watching us change history, and doing things how we feel it should be done.

FOTORC - Great mod, feature's exciting worker's, promotions, and even some of the older superstars and legends of times before. If you want to get in and play as ROH, TNA, WWE, or whatever, all the favorites are there, and you get a great amount of worker's to start your own promotion up if that's your thing. Overall, a great modern day mod for the entertainment crowd of wrestling, as well as the modern crowds.

T-Zone - Unsurpassable realistic modern mod of today. Unbelievable amount of workers, this is the mod you might find our famous "Senior Flamor" in it, without Weirdoman telling him to put him in it. If your looking for a mod that has EVERYTHING, you won't come closer then this mod.

Bassically, it's what seperates the T-Zone from other mods such as FOTORC.

If everyone made the same exact mod, using only what people "want" in it, we would get nothing but the same mods being released over and over again.

[ACCBiggz]

Perhaps you should add APW as a future promotion ?

Premiering in June 2007 with Tabula Rasa, there promotion is ran by Kriss Sprules (that's right...) and they currently have Brent Albright and Sheamus O'Shaunessy scheduled to appear.

http://anarchywrestling.awardspace.com/index.html

No he shouldn't...

EWB broke the story and now it's reported elsewhere...

Credit - http://www.wrestle-zone.co.uk/uk_news.php?...amp;ucat=4&

Failed wrestling promoter Kris Sprules who is most famously known on the UK Pro Wrestling scene as the promoter who drew only 10 people and 18 people respectively in 2 shows in Blackpool, England. Sprules ran these shows with no money to pay the booked talent and was relying on gate receipts to do so. Wrestlers, Promoters and fans launched an almighty backlash on Sprules, who in response constantly lied and to this day still owes several people money from the shows under his OPWO banner.

Earlier this month a new promotion was being plugged on various wrestling forums and website including this one, and was billed as a real promotion run by a new promoter called Andrew Bailey and was being backed by venture capitalist Charles Buchan, with a debut show at the Coventry Skydome in June this year.

In a story we broke earlier this week promoter Andrew Bailey was infact Kris Sprules using a false name. This was the name he used to contact wrestlers and staff. In an attempt to dupe them and hide his real identity.

Today we can reveal that Anarchy Pro Wrestling is nothing more than a sham and what looks like an attempt to rip off fans and wrestlers alike.

The Coventry Skydome a massive 3,000+ seater venue, have no booking from either APW, Andrew Bailey or Kris Sprules and no wrestling event has been booked. The Skydome are keeping a close eye on the bookings and say they have a strict policy on those hiring the facilities and to book the venue bookers/promoters must adhere to the rules on promoting an event which includes full Public Liability Insurance, Risk Assessment Plans and Deposits to be paid prior to any booking.

In another sensational twist to this story, the so called venture capitalist Charles Buchan does not appear to exist and we have been reliably informed this was another lie from Kris Sprules, in an attempt to gain some credibility into this fictitious promotion.

Now the truth is out about APW & Kris Sprules many of the original wrestling talent booked for the show, have withdrawn their services.

Apparently today someone has reported him and his promotion to the police in fear that he is attempting to de-fraud the public by using false names and sending out false information regarding The Anarchy Pro Wrestling (UK) Promotion.

More on this story as we get it….

Personally, I laughed... a lot.

[theTach]

I've not read the entire tread, so I don't know if someone has already posted about it, but if you're interested, in Italy, we have NWE - Nu Wrestling Evolution: Rikishi's touring fed with wrestler like Ultimo Dragon, Rikishi, Vampiro, Juvi Guerrera, Matt Morgan, Orlando Jordan...

http://www.nwewrestling.com

They do 3/4 tour every year. The medium crowd is about 600/800 people, but the record of the last tour was about 3000 people

If you need some help contact me.

[Maxi]

No he shouldn't...

EWB broke the story and now it's reported elsewhere...



Personally, I laughed... a lot.

Damn you for not letting me correct myself -_-

[cyberkitten01]

I've not read the entire tread, so I don't know if someone has already posted about it, but if you're interested, in Italy, we have NWE - Nu Wrestling Evolution: Rikishi's touring fed with wrestler like Ultimo Dragon, Rikishi, Vampiro, Juvi Guerrera, Matt Morgan, Orlando Jordan...

http://www.nwewrestling.com

They do 3/4 tour every year. The medium crowd is about 600/800 people, but the record of the last tour was about 3000 people

If you need some help contact me.

Delaying it as it might, I think this would be a great promotion to add :) I've heard a nice little buzz about it, and having some more European feds would be awesome

[flamebrain]

I had assumed NWE would already be in due to the star wattage they have. Watched some stuff on TWC and it wasn't all that bad. The random partner tag team tourny was a good idea. If I remember correctly, the winning team then faced off for the title.

[bigjabbadudley]

they where in the t-zone for 05 i think

[gingarob]

they where in the t-zone for 05 i think

Yeah they were.

[HugeRockStar760]

It would've been ideal to have something for T-Zone this weekend. I guess I'll have to keep editing a conversion mod instead. Bleh.

[forlan]

Right, where to start, so much stuff posted, if people actually took notice they would of seen earlier this week i posted that from Thursday to Saturday i was going to London to see Great Muta on the Friday show, which was last night and was great although the treatment of Cheerldeader Melissa and Ms. Chif was diabolical and Jezebel is a botch job and a half.

Right, people asking pretty pointless questions, i understand some of you may be new and are aksing if X fed is in etc. just ask about and if the fed was in the 05 updates it's been ported over already like NWE and such.

Now i'm going to level with you i see not much if any progress being made this week since on Thursday i have a history of broadcasting exam, in addition to this i have on Tuesday a Digital Video Effects screening which i have to evaluate for Thursday in 1500 words or so, Wednesday i have Radio practice before thursday morning i have the Radio for real, then the afternoon is the exam and some poiint that day i have to hand in my digital effects evaluation. So all my "free" time i'll be trying to grab as much revision as i can to be honest.

Once Friday comes the phase of intense uni work will be over and i'll be able to get on with things.

Now i'm not going to say this again "The Update is not being held up because i'm adding uk promotions, im going through all the promotions already in and sorting gimmick rating that got messed up, if needed giving new bios, updating rosters etc"

So until Friday by all means discuss but i'm not going to look kindly on anyone posting "when is it out" "progress report" "is it done" or anything of this nature.

Hope that makes it clear, now i will end by posting a picture of the signed Kikutaro towel i bought from the man himself at the show

http://a414.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_93fead7593778da42bec98bd6e06d785.jpg

[Carter]

^^^ jealous!

[forlan]

Funny thing is, i forgot all abouy paying and went to shake his hand and it got rly confusing cos hands were flying everywhere, got sorted in the end, really cool bloke. Was gonna buy a Cheerleader Melissa shirt but it was Pink, id of bought it if id seen her hanging around to get it signed but she was probably too pissed at JEzebel ruining the womens match.

[Harmor]

Broadcasting exam .. digital video stuff .. what exactly is it that you're studying?

[PoisonedSuperman]

Please don't forget Altar Boy Matthew! Last time I had to ask like 6 times before you put him in!! Who cares if he retired, he's young and will come back. The Altar Boys could pontenital be one of the best tag teams in TZONE TEW History

[forlan]

I dont see what your point is, the data i'm looking at right now he's in and as far asi remember hes been in for a long time.

BTW: Im studying Media Production TV and Radio

[Johnny Fenoli]

BTW: Im studying Media Production TV and Radio


Translation?


Forlan = Future Porn Director ;)

[Jaded]

Nice towel Forlan :)

Good luck for the exam, btw!

[flamebrain]

BTW: Im studying Media Production TV and Radio


Good luck! Been there myself, though it feels like an age ago now! lol
What year are you in? Thought about your specialisations?

[forlan]

Not really thought about it yet, im in first year, after failing engineering course last year, which is fair enough, i was pushed into it and told it was something it wasn't really.

Radio and such was good but most of the TV stuff starts with the next semester in Feb. looking forward to that.

Loads of great people i get on well with on the course too, considering on the engineering one they were mostly indians, now thats not a racist remark but with it bein mostly indians they sort of stuck together whereas on media everyone gets on for the most part. In fact, if anyone by chance used to watch byker Grove, arguably my best mate at uni starred in it which i find kind of funny, he was on tv etc and he comes asking me for help writing essays, i have the power now :p

[TravisL]

No he shouldn't...

EWB broke the story and now it's reported elsewhere...



Personally, I laughed... a lot.


Clearly if he was an actual promoter he'd have been able to buy a .com for a lousy $8 and not have to use google mail. LMFAO.

[juggaloninjalee]

Kandiman aka Mr Sprules is still trying to run his own wrestling promotion... wow he must have been trying to prove EWB wrong still because I remember people telling him he would never book a wrestling event.

[KRadiation]

I'm doing an engineering course now... its a foundation then hopfully i'll go onto a CAD specilist degree after that.

But holy crap is it complicated!

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Who is it you know from Biker Grove Forlan?

[bigjabbadudley]

good luck with the exam forlan, my exam for my course aint due till june, im doing computer science and advanced multimedia

[forlan]

Who is it you know from Biker Grove Forlan?

He played erm Stumpy or Spuggy or something like that, Paul Meynell

[Jaded]

Stumpy was a legend!! :D

[flamebrain]

"Bykah, bykah, bykah. Bykah Grooooove!" :)

[KRadiation]

OMG!

I only know 1 line from Grove and its stuck in my head EVER since and it was from some girl crying these words...

"Spuggy... Don't go!"

[forlan]

Spuggy was a different person because i just confirmed with the guy on msn he was stumpy, spuggy was a girl

[pete]

A very uneducated reply from my Pete there, Daizee Haze is a great wrestler, watch something like SHIMMER and you might lose your WWE'ised opinion that women cant wrestle very well.

yeah no, ive seen plenty. she's horrible.

[D16NJD16]

Yeah, I remember EWE. I could care less which site was better. I just wanted good conversation and to read other poster's booking styles. Instead, the egoes and low self esteem complexes that the EWB admins had ruined those forums and other forums as well because t hey'd send spammers over to disrupt everything.

The other strange thing about EWB is that it doesn't matter if your show made absolutely no sense. As long as you had TONS of writing, all of a sudden it is "quality." Javert, for instance, perhaps the most overrated "diary" writer, wrote a lot of unnecessary writing. The only thing that matter is the booking, not an entire play by play of an imaginary match.

So any idea of whatever happened to Javert? :D

[ACCBiggz]

You do realize hardly anyone likes Javert right?

And that quality matters... but that's an argument that doesn't belong here.... get back on topic please.

[flamebrain]

Spuggy was a different person because i just confirmed with the guy on msn he was stumpy, spuggy was a girl

I beleive Spuggy blinded PJ during a paintball game? I also remember Donna Air and having a major crush on her! :o

[AdmiralZ]

No, Duncan blinded PJ.

[flamebrain]

I'm sure it was a girl. Debbie rings a bell... Duncan's shame was getting PJ's girl in front of him while he couldn't see. The dog! :)

[TEWFan]

Hey, I like Javert!


And I think the quality of the writing matters. Would you read Scott Keith or J.D. Dunn's reviews if they didnt do such a good play by play job? And I mean old school Keith, not the lazy bastard he has become:p


The fact that you say is the booking makes no sense. Because then we would all do the "smart" thing and diaries would be repetitive. I need more than pretty results to get me involved in a dynasty. But to each their own. And I hate when people say diaries are overrated. Just dont be jealous of other people's sucess. I have read plenty of diaries that make me think "Hey, I can do this better", but I dont say anything about it because it's not my place. If so many people read it and leave feedback, then he has to be doing something good, dont you think? Now let's all be good sportsmen and stop this senseless bashing.

Like all, I am excited for the release of this mod. You are doing a great job ths far.

[HugeRockStar760]

I'd wager that the majority of people who said Javert was a great diary writer never even read anything he posted. They just see tons of writing and equate quantity with quality. That's not always the case.

I much prefer people to get to the point when doing writeups on matches.

[D16NJD16]

I'd wager that the majority of people who said Javert was a great diary writer never even read anything he posted. They just see tons of writing and equate quantity with quality. That's not always the case.

I much prefer people to get to the point when doing writeups on matches.

Someone accused me of being Javert that's the only reason I asked. Our writing styles are nothing alike IMO.

[cyberkitten01]

Anyone who's ever been in full-time education and wanted to pass while having many other commitments will understand when I say, a February release wouldn't be a surprise. Forlan is busting his butt trying to get an education. He's said it himself already in this thread that he won't have much time in the next week or two for updates, so just chill and argue some more :)

[deadman2006]

Any update on the progress so far?

[cyberkitten01]

Any update on the progress so far?

Lol :p

[The Stallion]

Any update on the progress so far?

If you look back a page, Forlan said that he will not be responding to any questions like that since he said that almost nothing will be happening to the mod for at least another week. He said that he is WAY to busy with school and what not to work on T-Zone. I for one am hoping he s just playing with our emotions and T-Zone will be out tonight (highly doubtfull though:D )

[HugeRockStar760]

If you look back a page, Forlan said that he will not be responding to any questions like that since he said that almost nothing will be happening to the mod for at least another week. He said that he is WAY to busy with school and what not to work on T-Zone. I for one am hoping he s just playing with our emotions and T-Zone will be out tonight (highly doubtfull though:D )

I've come around to the opinion that I'd rather have him take his time and have a really good first edition. This is because I've played some conversion mods and they just do not translate well to this edition of TEW07. And since I paid for TEW07, I want a good file to work with.

Besides, I just downloaded EWR 4.2 again. It seems like that program is fully updated. It just doesn't have the bells and whistles of TEW07.

[Plus-44]

Besides, I just downloaded EWR 4.2 again. It seems like that program is fully updated. It just doesn't have the bells and whistles of TEW07.

As well did I. And I agree.

[ACCBiggz]

As well did I. And I agree.

And by bells and whistles you mean in-depth gameplay. :p

[BoyDay]

Forlan's got so little time free that he's not even been playing on his 360 that much. Either that or he's not playing because I always beat him at SmackDown! :D

[MikeyMayhem]

raw vs smackdown 2007 shreds

[Horizon]

The wait really is painful though, isn't it.

Oh well, least it'll be great when it finally gets released eh?

[dean]

Yeah, I haven't even played TEW yet and I bought it like the day after it came out. I'm really pumped to have a good database when I start.

[MikeyMayhem]

ya the waits worth it for sure


lucky for me i have a 360 to hold me over

[bigjabbadudley]

same here dude

[cyberkitten01]

I'm enjoying the Cornellverse more than I ever have before, since normally I never gave it a chance since there was always a good real world mod around. With the wait for T-Zone, I've gone about four months into the Cornellverse and really enjoyed it. It'll kinda suck having to build up my fed from the floor again

[flamebrain]

I'm enjoying the Cornellverse more than I ever have before, since normally I never gave it a chance since there was always a good real world mod around. With the wait for T-Zone, I've gone about four months into the Cornellverse and really enjoyed it. It'll kinda suck having to build up my fed from the floor again

Same here :)

Folks, if you haven't, why not give the Cornellverse a try while you wait? You may actually enjoy it. Its gotta beat posting on here saying you're not playing a game you just dropped the cash for! :p

[Ransik]

If you want you guys waiting for T-Zone should check out the Montreal Aftermath to get a feel for the real world. I'm having one hell of a time keeping WCW afloat because all the most popular guys suck in the ring and it makes a fun little trip.

As soon as this comes out I'm gonna start a local fed and run it from scratch to see how well using the IWC works out in terms of popularity.

[MrKain]

Well, I'm kinda waiting... I did start a game in the Cornellverse, though I can't really get attached to any of the characters or feel like they deserve a push, really... I hate the fact that Lobster Warrior keeps going over all the time in my game... drives me up a wall. His draw goes up even more when he's not on the damn show. A dude dressed up like a lobster should NOT be getting that sort of following. lol

I really want a world that I can get attached to and feel like I'm giving people I know deserve it, a push, you know?

[MikeyMayhem]

yeah i can understand that, I've been tryign the montreal aftermath its ehhh ok i suppose but i think i might even jump in and try the cornellverse. but i swear i'll make lobster what ever job his face off if i come across him

[forlan]

I have an offer i'm going to lay on the table, the mod is not finished or nothing as you all know Uni has slwoed progress.

However, im going to offer a lucky few the chance to have a playa round incase they find any major errors or such.

Now i'm not just pulling in riffraff from the streets.

I'd like to offer the following a chance

Tsumirren (If possible id like him to check UK scene, in particular SWA as hes scottish i think, hes also in the update if i remember right, you are Kenny Morrison right?)

Cyberkitten Basically because shes fab and i know her from Corp-X too

The Stallion since i sent him an advance copy because he was shipping off, however when his shipping off got delayed he deleted the data and didnt try it out of respect so im offering him an official chance to take a look over it.

Lastly i'm throwing it open, write a small paragraph on why you should be given the chance to test, what new things will you bring to the table, not just "i will test because i want the data gimme gimme gimme"

The three people already named pm me if you are interested, the others, well get writing :p

[TCP1]

I would like an advance copy because...

I can look it over and tell you exactly why my data is always better than yours. I'll then proceed to change the 'incorrect' stats and release it as Fall of the One Ring Circus 2!!!! Everyone will prefer mine cos I'm perceived as a nicer guy on these boards. I'll then establish a heel stable of modders called TCP Productions and release many datas and eventually be included in the game on numerous levels!

How's that?

:p

[latenitescw]

I'd like to test the data, because I feel I can help with the release of the finished mod. I'm not quite sure what else you'd like me to put in here, but I did release an update for TEW2005 a long, long time ago, so I'm used to checking things and making sure everything's fine. You seem to of put a lot of work into this and if you don't chose me, that's fine, you'll find someone who can help you I'm sure. Best of luck with the release of T-Zone '07.

Thank you

[forlan]

Two responses (3 incl tcp <_<) via pm already, boy were they quick, im giving til the end of today for my decision.

As for TCP1 you fail...DENIED! :P

Maybe this was a bad idea, dont clutter the thread pm me with them otherwise ill get 500 more pages on this mofo lol

[TCP1]

I'd like to test the data, because I feel I can help with the release of the finished mod. I'm not quite sure what else you'd like me to put in here, but I did release an update for TEW2005 a long, long time ago, so I'm used to checking things and making sure everything's fine. You seem to of put a lot of work into this and if you don't chose me, that's fine, you'll find someone who can help you I'm sure. Best of luck with the release of T-Zone '07.

Thank you

I second the above, he is good, I remember his mod!

[Blasphemywebleed]

The only way i could really have justified myself getting a copy would have been to test the Scottish scene but Mirren has already claimed that. :( . I dont really think i could give you active feedback on the american scene as i'm just a casual watcher of WWE.

[KaySeeDubya]

There's probably 8 other people replying while I am, so I'll type as fast as possible :P

I'd make sure I scope through everything and see if I can find all the errors. That's usually what I do when I get a mod anyway, I play unemployed and see if there is anything unusual happen, then address the issue. I also do have mod making experience as I made one for the e-fed I'm in, however I never made it public.

[TsuMirren]

"Tsumirren (If possible id like him to check UK scene, in particular SWA as hes scottish i think, hes also in the update if i remember right, you are Kenny Morrison right?)"

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, you'll have people going out and digging up dirt about me like how I opened SCW, took the promotion to the point of self-sufficiency (with help of course, a fantastic roster for a start) and then closed the promotion, knowing it would be picked up and taken on, when I decided I couldn't really put more cash in and needed to concentrate on my career...well, getting one! haha

But yes, I am indeed Kenny Morrison and have pm'd you. Hadn't read the above or I'd have given you my e-mail address to send the data to. Can you attach it to a PM?

[MrKain]

You know, I would have gone and written some super long message/paragraph, but I think even if I impressed you to hell with quick verbiage, you'd still be like "He derailed my thread more than everyone, and he hates Homicide! **** that guy!"

And you know what? I'd understand.

Whomever gets to rock out on this thing? Make sure not to brag too much, cause then I'd be sad. But you had better be a great beta tester, because if some silly thing goes through (Like somehow Dan Maff ends up in every fed Homicide is in, and you're wondering how he got past his blacklisting...) I'll be a very very angry puppy. :)

Actually, I say you tell him all this stuff and get him to get it out ASAP! :)

I'm just being a jerk. Why did I even make this post again?

[cyberkitten01]

The power of the uterus prevails

[Rocland]

I wish I had a uterus!

[Tree]

The power of the uterus prevails

yea, somehow, i think it's not so much the uterus...

[MrKain]

yea, somehow, i think it's not so much the uterus...

Yeah... it's the path that leads to the uterus. We all know that.

Oh... and the boobies. Boobies rule.

[HugeRockStar760]

I could use an early version of this mod so I could review the lucha libre promotions, to see if any improvements could be made. AAA, in particular, I have a good knowledge of. I've been one of the more persistant askers for the mod, so I doubt I have much of a chance.

Anyone who does get an early preview of the mod, please do a thorough job of reviewing it so we all have a complete mod for an official release.

[HardcoreIcon87]

.....I forgot what I was going to say :confused: ...T-Zone Rules!

[D16NJD16]

I could use an early version of this mod so I could review the lucha libre promotions, to see if any improvements could be made. AAA, in particular, I have a good knowledge of. I've been one of the more persistant askers for the mod, so I doubt I have much of a chance.

Anyone who does get an early preview of the mod, please do a thorough job of reviewing it so we all have a complete mod for an official release.

There's always going to be improvements made upon release.

[tommytomlin]

I second the above, he is good, I remember his mod!

Yes, latenite's mod rocked. Choose him.

[forlan]

*Note: this doesnt mean latenite is a definate no*

You are saying "He made a good mod choose him" etc but im not picking someone to make the mod am i, i'm choosing someone to test it which involves various things including mostly "playing" the game so someone could of made 50million mods and they might not be a good tester

[tommytomlin]

Testing is easy but. Any chimp can test.

But it's about having an eye for detail so anal and perfectionist that you make your own mod because you don't think anyone else could do it right. Modders are the best testers of them all. And also D16. But you can't have him, he is mine. :)

[latenitescw]

Thanks TCP and Tommy. I'm surprised anyone remembers that mod. I was pretty proud of that mod. :)

[tommytomlin]

I believe I stole quite a bit from it for my old 1998 mod, so I definitely liked it.

[HardcoreIcon87]

I might get yelled at for saying this but I would be good to test the game, I have been watching wrestling pretty much since I turned 3 years old....I know a lot of stuff from then till now. And, I know about pretty much every fed dead or alive. So, I wouldn't mind testing the data, but you already have people picked so I shall wait my turn.

[forlan]

Modders are not the best testers of other mods normally as they have their own "set views" on stats. One such example is if i tested something like One Ring Circus i would say that it was too low on all stats across the board but its not too low for what they are going for, get what i mean

[HugeRockStar760]

Not exactly. If the modder doesn't have the knowledge of professional wrestling that someone else does, it is pointless. What is important is getting accurate ratings. If you have someone who has never watched a lucha libre match or a puro match from Japan doing ratings, you won't get an accurate game world.

[forlan]

Did you read what i put, i put modders are NOT THE BEST BETA TESTERS, hence you contradicted me with saying the same thing as you were contradicting

[forlan]

The Stallion, Tsumirren and Cyberkitten have all now obtained the files via email, you have roughly 55 minutes to get your entries in as oto why you should be the other tester. People are ONLY considered if they have gone through the proper pm channels, bear that in mind.

Enjoy!

[HardcoreIcon87]

I haven't played TEW at all and I bought it the day it came out cause i've been waiting for this and DOTT. Which neither will be out for quite sometime, I offered to help out with testing the data. I'm really not picky with stats. I would mostly be looking for other errors such as the federations stats or relationships.

[The Stallion]

Hey man, whats your suggestion on which pic pack I shoud download for the mod. Thanks brother!

[ACCBiggz]

The Stallion, Tsumirren and Cyberkitten have all now obtained the files via email, you have roughly 55 minutes to get your entries in as oto why you should be the other tester. People are ONLY considered if they have gone through the proper pm channels, bear that in mind.

Enjoy!

ROAR! [/rimshot]

Thank you, I'll be here all night.

[forlan]

Always with the humour :p

Stallion - Download any and all pics you can lol, as thats what i do

[HugeRockStar760]

Did you read what i put, i put modders are NOT THE BEST BETA TESTERS, hence you contradicted me with saying the same thing as you were contradicting

The post was not directed towards you but that is my fault for not quoting.

[forlan]

Ok, no problem.

After thinking long and hard about who sholuld get the 4th illustrious spot i've decided that.....my decision will come tomorrow...night

[Marcus]

So is the mod complete and you're just doing beta testing now?

[gingarob]

Some relevant info - it appears 1PW may not be folding after all

http://www.wrestlemag.com/news/index.php?p=4256

[forlan]

No the mod is not complete, people please read the thread its turning into a farce now.

As for 1PW whilst i live and breath no promotion of Steven Gauntley the money grabbing con man will get into the data, thanks very much and this time i'm really off, bye

[paulskln]

you have 58 promotions in this, are you going to be adding title lineage to every promotion or release the data before this is done.the game works fine without this anyway.if you done all the title for each promotion that would be something like 250-300 titles, thats a hell of a lot of work good luck.

[flamebrain]

Ah, I see I missed all the fun of the fair yesterday. C'est la vie, its not like I cvuold justify getting a playtest anyways :) At least I got to see Steven Seagal in concert... :cool:

[poilbrun]

No the mod is not complete, people please read the thread its turning into a farce now.

As for 1PW whilst i live and breath no promotion of Steven Gauntley the money grabbing con man will get into the data, thanks very much and this time i'm really off, bye
Forlan, I'm not requesting to test the mod (I don't have enough time for that), but I just wanted to chime in to say that there are people out there who, though they never post, are eagerly awaiting your mod and appreciate the time you put into it.

I especially like the fact that you are now taking testers and not releasing it as is, knowing that some things still need to be corrected.

Anyway, I just wanted to give support to someone who deserves it.

[Blasphemywebleed]

Ah, I see I missed all the fun of the fair yesterday. C'est la vie, its not like I cvuold justify getting a playtest anyways :) At least I got to see Steven Seagal in concert... :cool:

Dare i ask what genre of music Mr. Seagal is in? I had no idea the iron fist was a musician. Does he have the same level of talent as the....... HOFF :cool:

[TsuMirren]

Some relevant info - it appears 1PW may not be folding after all

http://www.wrestlemag.com/news/index.php?p=4256

Don't you worry, if Gauntley does indeed return he'll be too worried about the Yakuza chasing him for Kikutaro's money to even consider running a show. As for all the claims of fraud that he's going to face, the idiot is welcome to it all.

[djthefunkchris]

Forlan, I'm not requesting to test the mod (I don't have enough time for that), but I just wanted to chime in to say that there are people out there who, though they never post, are eagerly awaiting your mod and appreciate the time you put into it.

I especially like the fact that you are now taking testers and not releasing it as is, knowing that some things still need to be corrected.

Anyway, I just wanted to give support to someone who deserves it.

Very nice post poilbrun:-) And coming from someone that hardly ever posts makes your words viable.

Forlan, I know this project has been quite a headache at times, I'd like to add to Poi here, and say thanks alot and join Poi in his support to you.

I wanted to say something funny, but it's not appropriate, remind me another time,lol.

I also extent that support to everyone working on any mods, or contributing to them. Thanks alot everyone!

Especailly thanks to Poi here, for just stating a fact!

[TCP1]

Very nice post poilbrun:-) And coming from someone that hardly ever posts makes your words viable.

Forlan, I know this project has been quite a headache at times, I'd like to add to Poi here, and say thanks alot and join Poi in his support to you.

I wanted to say something funny, but it's not appropriate, remind me another time,lol.

I also extent that support to everyone working on any mods, or contributing to them. Thanks alot everyone!

Especailly thanks to Poi here, for just stating a fact!

You're welcome djthefunkchris!

:D

Only joshing!

So Forlan, when do I get my advanced copy? Don't forget Marquis Cor Von! PERIOD!

[Astil]

I would just like to say thanks in advance. While I never played your mod for TEW05, I heard such great things about it I was compelled to look into this one. You seem to spend so much time working and reworking it's as if your making a whole new game. Kudos to you good sir, kudos.

[HardcoreIcon87]

I just read Chuck Palumbo is still employed with WWE? Is this true....They say he's sitting at home right now not being used...poor guy. But at least hes getting a free pay check :-x

[cyberkitten01]

Forlan's given me permission to post this shocking news story from the T-Zone world trial

http://imgfly.com/files/170107_013733/Shocking-Tzone-spoiler.jpg

Shocking

[KaySeeDubya]

I'm stunned too :O

[forlan]

Certainly does put life into a new persepctive

[TsuMirren]

It's a shame Vince would never play TEW 07, it could influence his booking strategy......saying no more than that!

[HardcoreIcon87]

What's really funny.....WWE probably won't get such crappy ratings if Vince played TEW 2007....BTW, I checked out the trailor for WSX(MTV Wrestling Federation)...ECW is doomed...

[flamebrain]

It's a shame Vince would never play TEW 07, it could influence his booking strategy......saying no more than that!

Considering the number of times folks say he dies in their games, it might at least encourage him to get off the juice! :)

[D16NJD16]

What's really funny.....WWE probably won't get such crappy ratings if Vince played TEW 2007....BTW, I checked out the trailor for WSX(MTV Wrestling Federation)...ECW is doomed...

Yes, now and only now because of the godly WSX, ECW is doomed. Nothing to do with Heat and Velocity quality shows and the person in charge having a weird complex about not wanting it to fail but also not succeed much either.

[Travis]

I think what HardcoreIcon was pointing out, is that the new WSX looks like it could kick the fake ECW's ass in competition in quality of the show seeing as how no one in the fake ECW has the balls to do any of those moves, not necessarily ratings. In which I think WSX will get about a .5-.7, and that's my official guess for the new show.

[D16NJD16]

I think what HardcoreIcon was pointing out, is that the new WSX looks like it could kick the fake ECW's ass in competition in quality of the show seeing as how no one in the fake ECW has the balls to do any of those moves

Oh come on, it has nothing to do with that. The roster is filled with much larger guys then are in WSX, and they obviously do not have the type of freedom to just bust out crazy high spots. That's obviously not what Vince wants, so it aint happenin. ECW isn't there to compete with WSX. It isn't there to compete with anyone.

[HardcoreIcon87]

but when ECW was brought back they thought they would see guys like Sabu, Sandman, Dreamer, RVD, and etc from the past wrestle and be hardcore like before, which most views like to see that kindve ****. WSX has that now...with will cause people to watch that...plus they have people like Vampiro, X-Pac, Credible, Teddy Hart, Jimmy Jacobs...the list goes on..there are a lot of fan favorite indy people wrestling for them.

[flamebrain]

EDIT: Ack, this post should be in the dog pound. I'm guilty enough of taking this thread off on tangents.

[bobinc]

are there going to be the pre-injuries for this mod? :confused: (HHH, Rebecca Knox, ect..)

[HugeRockStar760]

Oh come on, it has nothing to do with that. The roster is filled with much larger guys then are in WSX, and they obviously do not have the type of freedom to just bust out crazy high spots. That's obviously not what Vince wants, so it aint happenin. ECW isn't there to compete with WSX. It isn't there to compete with anyone.

If no one is watching for half a hour, you better believe Vince and the Sci-Fi channel will notice.

[davidEFC]

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of the following talent. WWE wishes them all the best in their future endeavors.

Tony Mamaluke
Extremist Tony Mamaluke earned his greatest achievements in the original ECW, capturing the ECW World Tag Team Championship. Alongside his fellow Paesan Little Guido and ECW Diva Trinity, Mamaluke competed with new breed Extremists as a member of the Full Blooded Italians.

Doug Basham
As two-time WWE Tag Team Champions, the Bashams were at one-time regular competitors in SmackDown’s Tag Team division. An appearance at WrestleMania XX, and an extensive role as part of JBL’s Cabinet remain as highlights of this veteran tag team’s career.

Al Snow
ECW Original and former WWE Hardcore Champion Al Snow – along with his unique ally, Head – became a fan favorite with his unorthodox antics in the late 1990s. Snow is also known for his training of sports-entertainment hopefuls in WWE Tough Enough. While he will no longer compete in the ring, he will continue in his duties as a trainer.

The Gymini
The powerful pairing known as Gymini debuted on SmackDown in January 2006 and earned several victories over a slew of SmackDown teams including ring veterans Scotty 2 Hotty and Funaki.

Gangrel
David Heath, known to many as Gangrel, made his WWE debut in the mid 90’s as the vampire leader of the Brood. With blood dripping from his trademark fangs, Heath created a memorable image for WWE fans.

From WWE.com, also on the other news sites they expect more to come.

[D16NJD16]

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Gangrel
David Heath, known to many as Gangrel, made his WWE debut in the mid 90’s as the vampire leader of the Brood. With blood dripping from his trademark fangs, Heath created a memorable image for WWE fans.

From WWE.com, also on the other news sites they expect more to come.


Late 90's. Christ WWE can't even get their own information right.

[cyberkitten01]

What's this news got to do with T-Zone? Forlan keeps up with the news enough to know all this already :rolleyes:

[Johnny Fenoli]

What's this news got to do with T-Zone? Forlan keeps up with the news enough to know all this already :rolleyes:

Sounds like he's just trying to help out...

[HVD23]

Rodney Mack, Jazz, Danny Basham and Terkay are all gone

[ilovebarbu]

And CW Anderson

[TsuMirren]

Well, that'll save the game from doing it...

Spoilers from one month of testing:

WWE steal 18, yes EIGHTEEN, from TNA.
Scott D'Amore jailed for a year
Jeff Jarrett becomes booker of AAA
Spike TV drop TNA

[forlan]

Gotta say that in my latest game Spike didnt drop TNA :s, and WWE only stole, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and MAtt Bentley strangely enough.

Dare say WWE will cripple other promotions more with the real life releases since the game AI does it to trya nd balance the three brands

EDIT: And if you woudln't mind don't put up things like that, the D'Amore thing fair enough but when the data isnt complete don't put up possible flaws as thats the main reason why i didn't release it to everyone to avoid such things coming up as conversation.