Death of the Territories Released

[Consrvtve]

I'm just doing 1 v 1. The highest risk match I've ever used, once in awhile is a cage match.

If their fatigue level is A* they should be able to go for a 12 minute match you'd think.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

It all depends upon who you are talking about.

I've played the WWF many times and have not found that to be a problem. Sure, I've received the message for a chunk of the undercard (and Billy Graham - heh), but there is a reason you'd see cards like this back then:

Landover, MD - Capital Centre - April 23, 1983
Televised on the USA Network - 5/11/83:

Eddie Gilbert defeated Baron Mikel Scicluna at 8:09
Charlie Fulton defeated Pete Sanchez at 11:13
Swede Hanson defeated Mr. Fuji at 10:45
Rocky Johnson defeated WWF IC Champion Don Muraco via count-out at 15:33 when the champion became entangled in the ring ropes
Johnny Rodz defeated Victor Rivera at 12:39
Andre the Giant fought Big John Studd to a double disqualification at 23:14
Bob Bradley defeated Jose Estrada at 11:13
Tony Garea defeated Tony Altimore at 7:08
Salvatore Bellomo defeated Superstar Billy Graham via disqualification at 10:14 when Graham began choking his opponent with his wrist tape
- courtesy of Graham Cawthon

[Consrvtve]

Thanks, that does help put it in perspective.

And if this helps anyone I got an A for Hogan-Valentine just working a 12 min regular match in tri state region, they seem to gel pretty good

[soundsofsilver]

Consrvtve, are you following the Endurance guide here on the forum?

I've got a terrific feud with Andre vs. Slaughter, and I'm generally putting them in 10 minute matches yielding A or A* matches.

D. Boon's... I notice on that card Andre wrestled a 23 minute match against John Studd, yet Andre's endurance is only D+ in this mod.

[Consrvtve]

No, I'm not. Whats the endurance guide?

[soundsofsilver]

In the "Advice Compilation Thread" someone posted this for endurance ratings and how long they could go (at 100% match intensity with the "All Out Match" note I believe):

Anything less - 6 minutes max (even 0% stamina!)
Low D- (35.1%) - 6 minutes max
High D- (41%) - 10 minutes max
Low D (41.1%) - 10 minutes max
High D (47%) - 10 minutes max
Low D+ (47.1%) - 10 minutes max
High D+ (53%) - 15 minutes max
Low C- (53.1%) - 15 minutes max
High C- (59%) - 15 minutes max
Low C (59.1%) - 15 minutes max
High C (65%) - 15 minutes max
Low C+ (65.1%) - 15 minutes max
High C+ (71%) - 34 minutes max
Low B- (71.1%) - 34 minutes max
High B- (77%) - 34 minutes max
Low B (77.1%) - 34 minutes max
High B (83%) - 49 minutes max
Low B+ (83.1%) - 49 minutes max
High B+ (89%) - 49 minutes max
Low A (89.1%) - 49 minutes max
High A (95%) - 90 minute max
Low A+ (95.1%) - 90 minutes max
High A+ (100%) - 90 minutes max

[Consrvtve]

Oh that's great to know. I actually use the all out match alot. I didn't now that put more stress on the guys, which may have accounted for them running out of gas.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

... D. Boon's... I notice on that card Andre wrestled a 23 minute match against John Studd, yet Andre's endurance is only D+ in this mod.

I knew someone would bring that one up. :)

True. Andre (and Studd) did wrestle 20 minute matches, but... of the records available in '83 that list the time of bouts, here are some more of Andre's:

* Feb 18, 1983: Andre the Giant & Jimmy Snuka defeated the Wild Samoans at 12:51

* Mar 12, 1983: Andre the Giant won a 20-man, $10,000 battle royal by last eliminating Mr. Fuji at 12:08 -- (ouch... a 20 man battle royale over in 12 minutes?)

* Mar 19, 1983: Andre the Giant, Jimmy Snuka, & WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Big John Studd, Afa, & Capt. Lou Albano in a Best 3 out of 5 falls match, 3-0; #1: Andre's team via disqualification at 10:02; #2: Andre's team at 1:59; #3: Andre's team at 1:25 (total: 13:26)

* April 25, 1983: Andre the Giant defeated Big John Studd via count-out at 8:22

- Once again, all credit to Graham Cawthon
----------

So while he did wrestle 20 minute matches, it was not the norm for the Big Guy.

[TheMiser]

Hey Erik,

Any idea on the ETA for the next update?

thanks........:-)

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Hey Erik,

Any idea on the ETA for the next update?

thanks........:-)

Perhaps later today. Tomorrow at the latest.

[D16NJD16]

It's also probably hard to take into account the lack of movement and effort Andre displayed during a long match.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

And here we go...

Here is the latest set of data for the scenario, for those interested:

v1.35 (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/DOTT_v135.rar)

All of the latest pics (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/People_v135.rar)


* Events have been reworked to take into consideration the new historic blocks
* I tweaked some workers
* Several Storylines fixed


One of the cooler things about the new picture pack is the inclusion of a bunch of generic pics that cover a ton of workers in the data.
These were created by a friend of mine, Troy Perry; all credit goes his way.

Here are some examples:

http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/AmericanBrawler.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/AmericanEntertainer.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/AmericanPsychopath.jpg
American Brawler ---- American Entertainer --- American Psychopath

http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/AmericanSpotMonkey.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/MexicanLucha.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/JapanesePuroresu.jpg
American Spot Monkey -- Mexican Luchador --- Japanese Puroresu

http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Generic_Announcer.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Generic_Ref.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Generic_Personality.jpg
Announcer ------ Referee ------ Personality


Power to the Imagination!

[D16NJD16]

I like those pictures they're really good, I'm downloading the update now.

[D16NJD16]

Just a question, anyone have an official start date or estimate for when Hogan's 2nd run in the WWF began, the hulkamania run, post AWA?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Taken from Graham Cawthon's site:

Here is his first reappearance for the WWF:
WWF @ St. Louis, MO - Chase Park Hotel - December 27, 1983 (1,100; sell out)
Wrestling at the Chase taping:
1/7/84:
WWF Tag Team Champions Rocky Johnson & Tony Atlas defeated Dennis Stamp & Jerry Valiant when Atlas pinned Stamp following a press slam (Valiant's return)
David Schultz pinned Ken Jugan with a Southern piledriver (Schultz' debut)
Hulk Hogan pinned Bill Dixon with the legdrop (Hogan's return after nearly a 3 year hiatus)
Big John Studd defeated Jimmy Jackson
Ivan Putski pinned Bill Berger with the Polish Hammer
Adrian Adonis & Dick Murdoch defeated Kevin Collins & Terry Daniels (Adonis' return match; Murdoch's debut; Daniels' debut)
1/14/84:
David Schultz pinned Jimmy Jackson with the Southern piledriver
Ivan Putski defeated Dennis Stamp
Mil Mascaras defeated Ken Jugan
Big John Studd defeated James Burke & Rob Cheaney in a handicap match
Mr. Fuji defeated Kevin Collins

Here is the first television for Hogan. He was Backlund's 'special weapon':

WWF @ Allentown, PA - Agricultural Hall - January 3, 1984
Championship Wrestling taping:
1/7/84 - featured the debut of Gene Okerlund as he did commentary alongside Vince McMahon; included the announcement that Hulk Hogan & Bob Backlund would face Mr. Fuji & Tiger Chung Lee the following week:
WWF Tag Team Champions Tony Atlas & Rocky Johnson defeated Bill Dixon & Charlie Fulton at 3:12 when Johnson pinned Dixon with a sunset flip
David Schultz (w/ Roddy Piper) pinned Steve Lombardi at 1:48 with an elbow drop from the middle turnbuckle (Schultz & Piper's debut)
WWF World Champion the Iron Sheik (w/ Freddie Blassie) defeated John Callahan at 2:14 via submission with the Camel Clutch
Tito Santana pinned Bob Bradley at 2:14 with the flying forearm
The Masked Superstar pinned Victor Mercado at 1:17 with the swining neckbreaker
Bob Backlund (w/ Hulk Hogan) defeated Samula (w/ Afa, Sika, & Capt. Lou Albano) via disqualification at 4:34 when the Samoans and Albanoattacked Backlund as he applied the Crossface Chicken Wing to his opponent; after the bout, Hogan and Backlund cleaned house; the bout was to have been Backlund and his mystery partner against the Samoans but Albano refused to the match, instead making it a one-on-one encounter
Mr. Fuji defeated Dennis Hill at 2:19

[lfc1991]

Sorry i am new, it's just that i am trying to download the update and it just opens windows media player for some reason. Can some body tell me if i'm doing something or wrong, or can somebody upload it somewhere else? Thanks

[jbergey_2005]

Just download winrar and extract the update data in your DOTT data folder

[TheMiser]

Thanks for your hard work, Erik. By the way....thanks for plugging Graham Cawthon's site.

[Supermercado]

September 1984 - AWA/HCW/CWA/WWF (!) go out of business in the same month. Black Friday for the wrestling industry there but it leaves me as WCCW equally on top of the wrestling world with the NWA/MACW.

I didn't think the wrestling world was right without the McMahons so I added WWE as a regional promotion who are only over in New England and Tri-State.

[Likatiga]

Would it be possible for some to make a zip of the latest DOTT update. I have tried numerous times to download .rar but my computer doesn't want to recognize it. Thanks in advance to anyone that can help.

[Jasx12]

download winRAR?

[Likatiga]

Sorry mate, did you not read my post. I have tried to download winRAR numerous times but my computer doesn't want to recognize it. I was hoping if someone would be kind enough to to make a zip of this update.

[jbergey_2005]

Sorry mate, did you not read my post. I have tried to download winRAR numerous times but my computer doesn't want to recognize it. I was hoping if someone would be kind enough to to make a zip of this update.

Pm me your email address, I can send it to you.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Thanks, jbergey. If there are to be any more updates, I'll make sure to provide .zip links in the future.

[jbergey_2005]

Thanks, jbergey. If there are to be any more updates, I'll make sure to provide .zip links in the future.


And thank you Boon. I think 07 is the perfect game for this mod. Everything seems to run so smoothly. Have I ever told you great work?:)

[jbergey_2005]

Could someone else try to help Likatiga with this? My hotmail or yahoo wont let me send out a file over 10meg. I have to work on something for awhile and dont have time to mess around with my other email addresses until later. If not I can gladly try to figure something out after awhile Likatiga.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Could someone else try to help Likatiga with this? My hotmail or yahoo wont let me send out a file over 10meg. I have to work on something for awhile and dont have time to mess around with my other email addresses until later. If not I can gladly try to figure something out after awhile Likatiga.

Give me a few minutes and I'll send the links to Likatiga via PM.

[jonlawson]

I bow before DBoon!!! Thank you guys for all your hard work on this. FINALLY was able to play.

[Likatiga]

What can I say, D Boons Ghost & JBergey, you guys are awesome, thank you for taking the time out to help a fellow DOTT tragic out.

PS: D Boons Ghost, I love this scenario, thank you for all the effort you have put into it so far.

[TheMiser]

Amen

[NoNeck]

Yeah, does it get old to continually thank D Boon for his effort?

No, not at all.:)

Great work, man. I just started using the data after downloading awhile ago and it's outstanding.

[jonlawson]

Yeah, does it get old to continually thank D Boon for his effort?

No, not at all.:)

Great work, man. I just started using the data after downloading awhile ago and it's outstanding.

Just ask me, it doesn't :)

[shipshirt]

I'm having a BLAST running WCCW and I'm into September of 1983. Just had an big storyline where Masked Superstar masterminded David Von Erich's heel turn against his family. It built to a big Kerry-Superstar match (the gateway to Kerry's shot at David's Texas Title) and the match got an A*!! I was so excited I needed to share it :) I love it when a storyline comes together!

[TheMiser]

D Boon, you're the man.

I've been playing 2 months of WWF, keeping the roster and champions as is for now (first time I ever tried that). Anyway, Backlund is is very solid...with great matches with Stevens, Sgt, and actually got an A match vs. Masked Superstar. Bruno gets high ratings vs Graham. Muraco is pretty solid depending on his opponent. Pedro is great, too. Tag Team division is pretty weak. I've been using Chief Jay a lot since he has a written contract. He and Fuji can give me a C- to B- 5-minute match. Been jobbing out Patterson since I'm going to make him an Agent in a few months, but he can still work a good match.

Notes of interest:

Andre got hurt, so I rested him in preparation for his Studd battle at the end of May. Unfortunately, the damn Japanese had him win a tournament, and his spleen was ruptured and will be out 3 months.

Studd and Albano's gimmicks are getting stale with the audiences in May.

Invaders-Samoans brawls don't get over well.

Some guys get angry when I book lower guys to win a 10-man battle royal.

Some random questions:
Do dark matches kill my card rating? I'd love to sign Rick Rude or Shane and have them get experience during dark matches, but in previous games I've run, they get graded pretty harsh (E). Same with Eddie Gilbert.
Are guys like Garea, Williams, Jones, Bellemo, Rodz, Samu, etc capable of getting a B match? As much as I would like to use them, when I do they kill my card rating.
Howard Finkel is a Personality...is that okay?
Does an offscreen wrestler in an angle still get paid?
To confirm going National: Do I need 7 or 8 of the 10 US regions to be B-, and the rest D?
Based on other people's sims, which guys on the WWF roster have great matches together at the beginning?
Any sleepers currently unemployed? I thought Sivi Afi would be one. I brought him in an he and Snuka had a D.

[shipshirt]

Some random questions:
Do dark matches kill my card rating? I'd love to sign Rick Rude or Shane and have them get experience during dark matches, but in previous games I've run, they get graded pretty harsh (E). Same with Eddie Gilbert.
Are guys like Garea, Williams, Jones, Bellemo, Rodz, Samu, etc capable of getting a B match? As much as I would like to use them, when I do they kill my card rating.
Howard Finkel is a Personality...is that okay?
Does an offscreen wrestler in an angle still get paid?



1) Nope. That's what they are there for...you can give younger workers experience without hurting your card.

2) Probably not, but possibly. It all depends on getting them over and who you match them up with.

3) Yes.

4) No.

[jbergey_2005]

You can get B matches out of Garea. He did well for me vs Muraco and Snuka. I wouldnt be afraid to use him.

[darkfire423]

Rodz vs backlund give you B ez

[TheMiser]

Thanks, guys...that will help me a lot now. I was afraid that dark matches would kill the mood of the crowd, but I guess if my opener is hot, it doesn't matter. I guess it would be a good chance to get the lower guys on the mic, too, and involve them in angles, since otherwise...E+. :) Yes, Garea and Snuka had a couple of good 5-minute bouts.

FYI...after a month+ storyline Backlund and Snuka finished in a cage. It was a B+.

Slaughter + Pedro didn't seem to click well C+.

Muraco + Rocky Johnson had a great B+ lumberjack match.

Patterson and Masked Superstar had a quick B+ match.

Putski and Santana once again stunk up the place with a C.

Bruno (sub for Andre) and Studd...okay (C+) in a first blood.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

I'm really glad that you chaps are continuing to enjoy the data. I may not post very often, but I want to thank you for taking the time to relay your in-game stories and pointers to those asking for them; kudos.

And thanks for the kind words. :)

[Magister369]

Hi D.Boon have you ever thought about rolling back DOTT to maybe mid 70's
to the golden age of wrestling?? Your mod is excellent and i play it all the time,
i would love to play the game from the early to mid 70's when the territorys
were at the hight of their game. I am not sure if alot of the board members
were around back that far, but i think it would be a great mod for us real old timers LOL!!! anyway its just a suggestion. Keep up the great work.

[shipshirt]

I'm really glad that you chaps are continuing to enjoy the data. I may not post very often, but I want to thank you for taking the time to relay your in-game stories and pointers to those asking for them; kudos.

And thanks for the kind words. :)

Hey it's the least we can do! The DOTT mod is like a whole seperate game for TEW...it's really amazing and gives the game a whole seperate playability. And this is coming from a confirmed Cornellverse-aholic :)

I need a meeting :)

[BurningHamster]

Just wanted to chime in with a thanks to D. Boon's Ghost. I'm really enjoying this mod and am very impressed with the level of research that had to go into it. I started my own promotion on rock hard and am now into 1985 and still in business. WWF have already gone bankrupt in one of the biggest shocks in my game and the AWA is the dominant promotion. Right now I'm just running my small promotion with as many cheap guys as I can get, Jesse Barr and Rick Rude are two of my top guys and Lex Luger has just entered the game so I might have some plans for him.

[PoisonedSuperman]

Love the mod, there is one thing that bothers me though but it could be that I just don't know about the time period.

While playing with the WWF I tried to sign The Road Warriors and Harley Race but Vince stopped me both times because of his relationship with some of the people, there were a few others as well. But didn't these relationships happen well after the time of the data?

[shipshirt]

Love the mod, there is one thing that bothers me though but it could be that I just don't know about the time period.

While playing with the WWF I tried to sign The Road Warriors and Harley Race but Vince stopped me both times because of his relationship with some of the people, there were a few others as well. But didn't these relationships happen well after the time of the data?

Depends on what you mean by "relationship". I assume you're talking about the Promotional Pacts. Those happened before Wrestelmania. That was when all the terrtories had a "gentleman's agreement" not to go into each other's territories, to share talent...etc. Vince was the first one to really break that and go national. That's pretty much what the mod is about.

[PoisonedSuperman]

Oh no, sorry about that I am talking about his individual relationships with the talent.

[shipshirt]

Ah ok. There was definitely some tension between Vince and Harley Race during that time. I'm not sure about RW Hawk, though. I know they definitely didn't like each other in recent times. D Boon's research is really thorough though, so I would tend to believe what he puts in the mod.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Race is still loyal to his own promotion. With Vince breaking off during that NWA meeting, I figured just about all of the NWA owners would distrust him.

While Bob Geigel is actual owner of Central States (in the scenario, at least), Race has interests there.


Re: The Road Warriors... Hawk, in the Road Warriors shoot, professed an absolute hatred of McMahon. While that developed over time, I don't believe Hawk liked him to begin with.

McMahon tried very hard to get Hawk and Animal into the WWF since at least early '84. Ellering supposedly negotiated a deal that was laughed at, which in turn soured the Roadies on New York.

At least for a few years - heh.
After Georgia and special attraction runs in various southern promotions, the three headed to Gagne country (AWA) - then to Crockett (Mid Atlantic). In the meantime, Vince got sick of trying to buy them, so he created his own: Demolition.

Regardless, relationships do wear off over time. In long term tests, I've been able to hire a bunch of people you cannot at the beginning: Ted DiBiase, Gino Hernandez, etc.

[PoisonedSuperman]

Yeah thats cool, I just always wondered thanks. It makes sense.

[rodzillahotrod]

i was just wondering show i download the 1.35 version because im playing with 1.25 and i dont see any problems besides some of the new works come in with basic language skills and im already at global domination the world is there really a need to install the 1.35? thanks in advance

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Not really. The 1.35 update is rather minor. The biggest thing is probably the new pictures, but that's hardly worth starting a new game over (imho).

[D16NJD16]

Just start your game everyone! To me, after the update from a few weeks ago, the game is totally good to go, the rest is just perfectionists work.

[rodzillahotrod]

woooooo...thank god i would of hated to have to start all back over lol im not worried about any pics well thanks for the info

[soundsofsilver]

In addition to my active game, in some spare time I run an autoclicker, and am now in about August 1986. I left everything default, unlike my personal game. In my personal game, I changed some stats, and eliminated the weekly events, and it's proving to be a lot more fun without the weekly events. In my autoclicking game, however, I left the weekly events on (I'm glad I turned them off for my personal game, because the game is a mess to follow with the weekly events on).

Some observations midway through 1986:

-The NWA World Title gets defended much less than the WWF World Title, because the NWA Tag Titles are also Main Event level, so the NWA Champ often participates in Tag Titles matches at big events. Greg Valentine defended 18 times in a 17 month reign, whereas WWF champs were defending 24 times in 5-6 month reigns.

-The WWF Champs were Backlund (to start), Slaughter, Backlund, Slaughter, Backlund, Orndorff, Snuka, Orndorff.

-Hulk Hogan is an upper midcarder, 2-time Tag Champs with Manny Fernandez.

-Wrestlemania I was headlined by Bob Backlund retaining his World Title against Don Muraco in a B- match. WM2 was headlined by Bob Backlund retaining his Title against Tito Santana in C+ Match. WM3 had sort of a double main event with Snuka retaining his title against Orndorff in a B+ match and Morales/Backlund defeating Steve Keirn/Rip Oliver in the real main event in a B match.

-WWF rose to National in April 1985, the only promotion to have done so.

-AWA, AJPW, Georgia, Florida, CMLL, C-States, Houston, ASW, NWF, CWA, POWW, and JPUK went out of business.

-AJPW and C-State's collapse allowed the new St. Louis promotion to be run by Giant baba (owner) and Harley Race (head booker). Despite being a small promotion, their monthly shows have all been C or C+.

-This is my first TEW, so I've never been able to watch games develop over a long time, which is a key reason for this test. Some things have been really interesting. My favorite case has been Paul Orndorff. Through 1983 and 1984, he worked with the AWA, Japan Pro, and GCW. His last match in GCW saw him beat Ronnie Garvin for the National TV Title in March 84, right before the company folded. Again, his last match in the AWA (and also, in the AWA's history), saw him go over Nick Bockwinkle for the AWA World Title in July 1984. He wrestled inconspicuously in Japan in August & September, before signing with the WWF. In his first WWF match, he beat Invader I for the Intercontinental Title on TV in October, holding the belt until January 85. In April, he beat Bob Backlund for his first WWF World Title, and is now the current 2-time champ. It was really fun to see him at the end of GCW and AWA's runs, immediately become a star in the WWF, and then go on to be the first non-Backlund/Slaughter man to hold the WWF Title.

-Orndorff and Snuka are both "A" over in the USA. Snuka borders on A* fairly often.

-Andre the Giant hasn't wrestled since September 1984. He worked 1984 with NJPW, who was running monthly shows. He left the WWF in October 1983. Since he hasn't wrestled in almost 2 years, his overness is now down to a C+ in the US.

-WWF is national with a Main Event that consists of Backlund, Buddy Rose, Snuka, Orndorff, Morales, Slaughter, Santana, and Tommy Rich. Occasionally Butch Reed, Hulk Hogan, and Jerry Stubbs have found their way into the main event as well.

-Ric Flair never worked for anyone other than MACW, and left them in September 85, and hasn't wrestled since.

-Wrestlers of the Year have been Terry Funk (83), Greg Valentine (84), and Dick Murdoch (85).

-The First A match was in March 1986 in MACW, with Greg Valentine beating Ricky Steamboat.

[Saffir]

-Ric Flair never worked for anyone other than MACW, and left them in September 85, and hasn't wrestled since.

I think he's gotten too big to be hired. I'm in May 84 of yet another ICW game(I'm making money now and up to regional, yaaaaay!), and Ted Dibiase and Terry Gordy are just sitting in the Unemployed market after they left their promotions. I can't hire them :( They would be a huge boost for my promotion.

[soundsofsilver]

Well, Ric Flair is sitting at the C+/B- overness range, which I don't think is out of the reach of cult promotions, but I don't know. He hasn't signed with the WWF, who is national, either.

Edit: Ric Flair is at B- overness, close to a B. The only other wrestler with B- overness in the US who is unemployed is Nick Bockwinkel. After the AWA folded in July 84, he took time off until March 85, when he joined MLW. He wrestled with them until November 85, having some excellent battles with Ricky Steamboat, and hasn't wrestled since.

Other B- wrestlers who aren't employed by the WWF are Bob Armstrong, Buzz Sawyer, Dick Murdoch, Dusty Rhodes, Gino Hernandez, Greg Valentine, Harley Race, Jake Roberts, Ricky Steamboat, Ted DiBiase, and Wahoo McDaniel.

[soundsofsilver]

I just found Lane Huffman (Stevie Ray of Harlem Heat) among the active wrestlers in 1983, though his Wiki says he didn't start wrestling until the 90's. So I don't know, just thought I'd mention it.

[shipshirt]

WCCW:

I've been playing with World Class Championship Wrestling and am up to November 1983 and we just jumped up to Cult level. Some interesting happenings...

** I started off really basic and just ran the Freebirds vs. Von Erichs war (which lasted for about 3 mos. until Terry Gordy quit the company) and parts 2 & 3 of Battle of the Valets with Jim Garvin and Chris Adams. Kevin and Gordy traded the American Title once and Adams is now TV champion, about to embark on a series with Great Kabuki.

** The Rock & Roll Express won the American Tag Titles from The Freebirds and then dropped them to the Midnight Express a few months later. They have been waging war in the territory and the storyline is about C+ to B level. Paul Ellering has recently brought in the Road Warriors and they are starting to catch on. The most recent tag acquisition is Stan Lane and Steve Keirn....the Fabulous Ones!

** Paul Orndorff is the current American Champion after defeating Kevin Von Erich. He is in a feud now with Ricky Steamboat. Jim Duggan came into the territory and has been feuding with Skandor Akbar's Devestation Inc. team of King Kong Bundy and Bill Irwin. Duggan has brought in Bruiser Brody for a few matches as his mystery tag partner (we aren't big enough for Brody to sign with).

** The Texas Title was reinstated (after initially being unified with the TV title by Jim Garvin and Iceman King Parsons) and is currently the focus of the hottest feud ever in the company....

David Von Erich turning heel on his family. This is an A storyline.

It all started back around July, the Freebird feud pretty much over as Gordy dropped a Loser Leave Town match to Kevin. Kerry and David were teaming and David had been acting grumpy with all of the attention lavished on his younger brother. Kerry took a match with the Midnight Express to determine the #1 contenders to the tag titles without consulting David first. This lead to David turning on Kerry during the match and leaving him high and dry.

Kevin and Kerry demanded answers for the next few weeks on TV but David refused to appear. His first appearance came when Fritz reinstated the Texas Title and booked a four person tournament. It was David vs. Kabuki and Kerry vs. Michael Hayes in the first round. David dispatched of Kabuki that first week with Kerry-Hayes happening the next week.

Come TV taping time, Kerry is found in his locker room in a pool of his own blood. Stretchered out by paramedics and unable to compete, causing Hayes to move to the finals against David. David came out, all heated and cut a vicious promo on Hayes, blaming him for the attack. David demanded they have their finals match right now and went on to beat Hayes and become Texas Champion.

The following week, Kerry cut a promo and claimed that two men jumped him. One was masked and the other was....before he could finish The Masked Superstar blindsided him (making his WCCW debut) and beat on him. David Von Erich ran in to make the save...but then smiled and started beating on Kerry himself as the crowd went nuts! It seems Superstar has gotten in David’s ear about how the family had cast a shadow on him and now he is out to prove that he is the greatest Von Erich.

The feud has resulted in what may be MOTY as Kerry and Superstar fought to an A* match (the only ever in the game world to date). David successfully defended the title against Kevin and Kerry and both matches got A’s.

[Anubis]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there is an error in the "Flair for the Gold, Part Two" storyline.

Step 11 is "Announcer hypes recent events" (right before playing a video of it), but the roles are Ric Flair, Dick Slater, and Cowboy Bob Orton as Subjects with Wahoo McDaniel as the Catalyst. It should be the "Announcer" that is the Catalyst, of course.

[legendkiller13]

just wondering if you would like help making new workers. I have the list that dolfanor had listed back in february. My semester is winding down and will be having a lot of free time, so I am willing to help make alot of new workers for you.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

just wondering if you would like help making new workers. I have the list that dolfanor had listed back in february. My semester is winding down and will be having a lot of free time, so I am willing to help make alot of new workers for you.

Feel free. I'd like to think that a bunch of people would find a more comprehensive New Workers file quite handy. If nothing else, it would make long-term games using this data much more attractive.

Due to other (and original) kayfabe-oriented projects in the works - and the fact I have not touched TEW in weeks, I will not be updating this any longer. Perhaps when TEW'08 rolls around I will consider doing another version of this 80s scenario, but for now I feel the base is solid enough (despite some small issues mentioned here by others).

------

So thanks to everyone for all their support since this modification got off the ground. It is my hope that I helped pass some of your downtime over the years with this little homage of mine.

It's funny... but when I first started modding this 80s stuff into Adam's games (for the first TEW), I honestly didn't expect more than a couple of people to dig this. It strangely would go on to becoming one of the more respected modification projects in the TEW series, despite the fact that it is such a niche - and that it lusted after monkey testicles (or so I am told). Heh.

Danke, take care - and wish me luck. :)

Ah, and shipshirt? That game sounds rad. You can never go wrong with Masked Superstar. :)

[shipshirt]

Thanks for everything D!! This mod is just stellar and I love it as much as I love playing in the C-verse!

[jonlawson]

Is it just me but does David Schults look like Steve Austin with hair??

[cappyboy]

Feel free. I'd like to think that a bunch of people would find a more comprehensive New Workers file quite handy. If nothing else, it would make long-term games using this data much more attractive.

Due to other (and original) kayfabe-oriented projects in the works - and the fact I have not touched TEW in weeks, I will not be updating this any longer. Perhaps when TEW'08 rolls around I will consider doing another version of this 80s scenario, but for now I feel the base is solid enough (despite some small issues mentioned here by others).

So who do we talk to about further expanding the storyline base now? I've been thinking the community needs more tag angles. Like maybe Sheepherders vs Fantastics or Briscos vs Funks from the DOTT era.

[DocStevens]

So thanks to everyone for all their support since this modification got off the ground. It is my hope that I helped pass some of your downtime over the years with this little homage of mine.

It's funny... but when I first started modding this 80s stuff into Adam's games (for the first TEW), I honestly didn't expect more than a couple of people to dig this. It strangely would go on to becoming one of the more respected modification projects in the TEW series, despite the fact that it is such a niche.

I think this mod is so successfull because it plays better than anything else out there, maybe even better than Cverse. It is almost like TEW07 was made for DOTT. Even if you don't know much about this time period (and people don't) it doesn't matter because the bios are great and you can just explore the mod and have fun pushing people you have never heard of. DOTT will never be surpassed in terms of quality and will forever be the gold standard of mods.

[TheMiser]

Amen.

[EnchantedGoat]

I'm curious to hear other people's experience with loyalty in this mod.

I'm having an awesome time a few months into my WCCW dynasty, and certainly enjoying the fact that the Von Erichs have no interest taking PPA deals anywhere else. How long will this last, and how realistic is the game in this regard?

A perfect example is Randy Savage wrestling in his father's promotion. In my game, they lost their TV slot, and are down to a monthly event. How long will Savage stay loyal, considering that he'll be still be used on "100%" of his father's shows (so he probably won't have complaints about not being used).

[cappyboy]

Haven't played the 07 version yet. So maybe this is a moot question. But any chance getting Tom Urbanski in the talent pool? I was poking around in the AOL news section and came across a really interesting little nugget. Seems Urbanski, best known as the security guard paralyzed in the Pacman Jones "rain-making" strip club brawl, was a former WWF preliminary worker. The story gave his professional pseudonyms as The Mad Russian and The Polish Prince. It also included a quote from Urbanski about how much fun playing the heel had been during his ring career. Could be fun to try and push Urbanski and see if we could keep his career afloat so he's still mobile past 2007.

[djthefunkchris]

UWE Held Krunk last night, in ON - Fort William Gardens, and drew 5,000 fans. The feedback from viewers has been pretty good; people seem to have enjoyed the show. The star of the show was Harley Race. On our message boards, the poster 'D.Boon's Ghost' said "Wow, even I'm surprised by that news!!".

LOL, just thought that was funny, first time I seen his name (while playing his mod), and it was a comment on my promotion UWE (Ultimate Wrestling Entertainment).

[EnchantedGoat]

I don't know if this is still being updated, but I found an error in the "WCCW: The turning of Chris Adams" angle. Step #2 should be "Adams & Kevin v. Anyone", but the step info is requiring me to team Chris Adams & Gary Hart's Role.

[Capelli King]

Thanks for all the good work D, will be waiting for the update in TEW08!

[Ellis Dee]

Bit of help (stupid i know) what do i need to open all the .rar files?

[.SVA]

WinRAR, a program ala WinZIP, but can handle .rar files as well.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

To expand upon what .SVA mentions:

I like Winrar (http://www.rarlab.com/) a lot; I've used and supported that program for years now.

One thing to keep in mind is that the latest Winzip (11.0, I believe) can now open .rar files. If you are more comfortable with the Winzip interface, you might just want to upgrade the program.

[Anubis]

Try 7-Zip. It's free (WinZip and WinRar will harass you about paying for them) and it opens pretty much everything.

[paulskln]

using the new patch kinda makes this data a lot different...using wwf most of my workers are too old to be active workers now.poor old jimmy snuka died from drug problems after just one week of my game..i had set him up to feud with andre the giant and make them the focus of my shows.mr fuji retired very early into my game too..still an excellent game but the new patch makes things a lot harder now.
anyway i have made some pics to fill in the gaps in my game hope you like them if you want to use them in your packs thats fine with me...

[paulskln]

a couple more pics

[paulskln]

royal hawaiian pic enclosed.

the only pics i cant find are:

Ashura Hara
Montgomery Van
The Viking

if anyone has pics of them please post or send to me thanks..

[Rick Arnold]

Van used to have a photo... in one of the older games. From my understand, he's a fictional character though -- much like Liz Hunter and Matt Brock. But I might be mistaken. Eric would know...

[paulskln]

a small error i noticed Mike Bennett and Terry Jowett have the same profile...

anyone have any of the following worker pics?
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ajpw
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kousuke takeuchi
takashi yamada
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ajwpw
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mami kumano
seiko honawa
sunoe matsunaga
takashi matsunaga
yukari omori
yumi ike****a
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asw(uk)
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brian dixon
dorsey lagner
frank manley
rick wiseman
terry jowett
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asw(can)
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ed karl
gary allen
michael w.allen
randy rich
rick davis(todd tomko)
terry adonis
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awa
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jim mitchell
marty miller
nacho berrera
stanley blackburn
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agpw
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bill mccaullah
gair maxwell
paul peller
rene demont
willie davis
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csw
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brian dance
gil hayes
john kobal
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cwa(eur)
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axel dieter
billy samson
john cox
karl bachlmeyer
manfred koch
michael schneider
mile zrno
paco rameriz
pierre williams
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central states
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jimmy mcguire
kevin wall
rick stewart
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cwa(usa)
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jerry calhoun
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cwff
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cmll
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juan carlos
pepe casas
pops aguraro
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gcw
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freddy miller
mike starbuck
randy barber
ronnie west
scrappy mcgowen
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glow
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david nevins
frank d'amato
steve blance
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hcw
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ken farber
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icw
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jim gibson
john beck
mike doggendorf
speed manson
tim tyler
tony peters
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iw(montreal)
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adrien desbois
andre belisle
robert lafloure
ron francis
serge dumont
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maple leaf wrestling
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stu schwartz
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macw
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stu schwartz
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msw
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alfred neely
jerry usher
joel watts
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njpw
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yasuo sakurai
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pnw
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scott gonzalez
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secw
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charlie platt
danny fargo(audie hager)
sam diamond
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swcw
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fred berhend
jack howe
rapido rodriguez
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uwa
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carlos flores
jorge randosa
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wccw
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david manning
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wwa
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bill beach
leroy redbone
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wwc
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ricky sanchez
ricky vargas benitez
tomas marin

[D. Boon's Ghost]

As Rick mentioned, Van is an alter-ego. He did use a twisted Dali pic at one time, though.
(My avatar pic, actually) :)

Good luck on trying to rustle up those pictures, Paul. As the timeline featured in D.O.T.T. is approx. 25 years ago, it's tough finding pics for the more obscure workers.

[SmokieMcPots]

is there anyway to get the old download of this???

[D. Boon's Ghost]

is there anyway to get the old download of this???
If you mean the DOTT.exe file for TEW07, you can find it here (http://cyclopsltd.net/DOTTFiles.htm).

If you are speaking of the TEW05 version (or whatever), let me know and I'll see if I can rustle it up.

[sprinklefurball]

If you mean the DOTT.exe file for TEW07, you can find it here (http://cyclopsltd.net/DOTTFiles.htm).

If you are speaking of the TEW05 version (or whatever), let me know and I'll see if I can rustle it up.

if he's talking about the 05 version it's linked here (http://bobinc.net/TEW05Downloads.html)

[BarryZuckerkorn]

I'm fairly new to the TEW world, having only recently bought TEW 2007 and having barely played 2 months game time in T-Zone. Just downloaded DOTT last night and it seems very interesting.

But I'd like to know if there is any chance of WCW being incorperated into the game at any point? In the game here, they have another name (either Georgia Championship Wrestling or WCCW), and if I have my history correct, they change to WCW around the mid-to-late 80's (after merging with another promotion??).

It would be great if the editor allowed for certain events to be set for a date, like the name change to WCW. Otherwise, we miss out on one of the most important promotions ever.

Also, could anyone tell me if the wrestling world progresses as the game goes on? For example, what was popular in 1985 wasn't popular in 1999 -- does the audience's conception of entertainment change? Or can anything be fine as long as the promotion's style reflects the matches, and, in theory, an Elimination Chamber match could be a big draw in 1984 as it was from 2002 onwards... ?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

The WCW that you refer to is actually the merging of Jim Crockett's Mid Atlantic promotion with that of Georgia Championship Wrestling. Well... Ole Anderson's Championship Wrestling from Georgia, to be precise (which was the promotion Anderson started right after McMahon bought the GCW name - and airtime - in mid '84).
I want to say this merger took place in either late '84 or early '85 - though I cannot remember the exact timeframe right this second.

WCCW (World Class) was Fritz Von Erich's promotion in Dallas; completely unrelated from WCW.

As far as the second part of your question: I really do not see why you couldn't run the more exotic match types, if you wanted - though I guess it all plays into the promotional sliders. The WWF, for example, is set up as more of a typical Traditional fed - so you'd have to change them around a bit.
As far as I am aware, the audience's tastes do not mutate over time.

- And thanks for the interest. D.O.T.T. is a rather nifty dataset, if I do say so myself. :)

[BarryZuckerkorn]

The WCW that you refer to is actually the merging of Jim Crockett's Mid Atlantic promotion with that of Georgia Championship Wrestling. Well... Ole Anderson's Championship Wrestling from Georgia, to be precise (which was the promotion Anderson started right after McMahon bought the GCW name - and airtime - in mid '84).
I want to say this merger took place in either late '84 or early '85 - though I cannot remember the exact timeframe right this second.

WCCW (World Class) was Fritz Von Erich's promotion in Dallas; completely unrelated from WCW.

As far as the second part of your question: I really do not see why you couldn't run the more exotic match types, if you wanted - though I guess it all plays into the promotional sliders. The WWF, for example, is set up as more of a typical Traditional fed - so you'd have to change them around a bit.
As far as I am aware, the audience's tastes do not mutate over time.

- And thanks for the interest. D.O.T.T. is a rather nifty dataset, if I do say so myself. :)

Yeah, it's really very good. I just started up a game as Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling (duh, WCW), and am looking forward to defending my roster against the advances of WWF (if Ricky Steamboat decides to stay with me, I'm pushing a feud with Ric Flair to the moon) :)

You didn't really answer my first question -- BUT, I can let this slide because I've just realised that all I need do is to rename Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling as World Championship Wrestling around '85, and delete GCW from the database. Of course the wrestlers from GCW won't automatically follow onto WCW or WWF, but I can just pick them up as free agents. So that's sorted!

[BarryZuckerkorn]

Ahh, I before I go...

What is this talk of having this game with weekly events and without them? Is it more realistic to disallow them in the game? How do I do this?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

As the existing house show nonsense doesn't reflect the house show circuit back then (at least in my humble opinion), I set just about all of the promotions up to have a weekly event. In this manner, you can use some imagination and claim they are your house shows.

After all, titles did change hands quite often during house tours.

If you don't want to book them, just delete the weekly. You'd still have your weekly t.v. show and your end-of-the-month spectacular.

[Thom Kane]

does anyone know the name of the song and band who play the title music for DOTT?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

I believe it is Survivor. Not sure of the name of the song, but it was the theme for either Mid Atlantic's t.v. show - or Georgia's.

[Thom Kane]

thanks man that helps...I hope it is Survivor because I'm downloading there Discography in an attempt to find that song lol!

[CW Saton]

I'm currently playing a very enjoyable game with this data. I'm playing as a self created British promotion called 'Sports Association Pro Wrestling', and my goal is to make the U.K. the worlds focal point in professional wrestling, (As opposed to the U.S.A.) and to rise my promotion to a global level.


Its a lot of fun, and I've also learned a out about the British 'World of Sport' era, a period in wrestling that I have always wanted to get into.


Just a few questions; Why isn't the ECWA D.O.T.T.? Weren't they around since 1967?

Also, I know Dr. Boon has said that he wont be producing any more updates for this version of D.O.T.T., but is there a possibility that the man may change his mind and indeed bless us with an update? Possibly including some of the issues mentioned previously in this thread and including some of the newer pictures?

Or how about a Death of The Territories 2? Set perhaps in 1984 or 85 as the McMahon empire begins to take shape? That would be awesome, or am I just pushing my luck here? ;)

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Just a few questions; Why isn't the ECWA D.O.T.T.? Weren't they around since 1967?

To be honest, until you mentioned them, I had no idea who ECWA is.

I like their Hall of Fame, I must say. It's kind of cool seeing all those 'homage' names: Mad Dog, The Baron, Mr. Funk, etc.

I suppose they could make it in someday...

Also, I know Dr. Boon has said that he wont be producing any more updates for this version of D.O.T.T., but is there a possibility that the man may change his mind and indeed bless us with an update? Possibly including some of the issues mentioned previously in this thread and including some of the newer pictures?

Or how about a Death of The Territories 2? Set perhaps in 1984 or 85 as the McMahon empire begins to take shape? That would be awesome, or am I just pushing my luck here? ;)

If I were to delve back into working on this data set, I would most likely start it in January of '84. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling may have been dead at that point (which is a drag; I liked that guy a lot), but the WWF had a replacement manager set to enter at this time that was almost on the same level... in a bizarre, coked-out sort of way: 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper. I'd think that whole timeframe would be a blast to play.

Hogan as WWF champ, Piper debuting as Orndorff's manager, Rhodes about to make a splotch... er, splash in Mid Atlantic as Flair's #1 foe, blah, blah, blah.

It would be fun.

In answer, I'll throw out an emphatic, 'We'll See!'
:)

[DocStevens]

If I were to delve back into working on this data set, I would most likely start it in January of '84. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling may have been dead at that point (which is a drag; I liked that guy a lot), but the WWF had a replacement manager set to enter at this time that was almost on the same level... in a bizarre, coked-out sort of way: 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper. I'd think that whole timeframe would be a blast to play.

Hogan as WWF champ, Piper debuting as Orndorff's manager, Rhodes about to make a splotch... er, splash in Mid Atlantic as Flair's #1 foe, blah, blah, blah.

It would be fun.

In answer, I'll throw out an emphatic, 'We'll See!'
:)

That would be awesome! Keep in mind that it doesn't appear there will be another version of TEW until sometime in 2008 so there is still plenty of time to mod!!!!

[soundsofsilver]

To Barry, or anyone else-

I found that the weekly events don't play out very well through a long-time game. Having big events every week makes the title reigns shorter, and makes the talent develop too quickly (so that within 5 years, there are TONS of very talented wrestlers to choose from, even with 2 national US promotions, and 3 others other around the world)... so my recommendation is to get rid of all the weekly events. Of course, it all depends on what you're looking for in the game.

[CW Saton]

To be honest, until you mentioned them, I had no idea who ECWA is.

I like their Hall of Fame, I must say. It's kind of cool seeing all those 'homage' names: Mad Dog, The Baron, Mr. Funk, etc.

I suppose they could make it in someday...


Well, aside from the Super8 tournament, neither had I really. I was comparing the promotions in in the D.O.T.T. to the ones in the 1993 scenario when I noticed that ECWA's start date was 1967.

I've imported the promotion, from 1993, into my current game as a local fed. It's been quite a welcome addition thus far, providing work for some of the unhappy unemployed workers of the U.S. and some American exposure for a few British and Japanese workers.



If I were to delve back into working on this data set, I would most likely start it in January of '84. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling may have been dead at that point (which is a drag; I liked that guy a lot), but the WWF had a replacement manager set to enter at this time that was almost on the same level... in a bizarre, coked-out sort of way: 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper. I'd think that whole timeframe would be a blast to play.

Hogan as WWF champ, Piper debuting as Orndorff's manager, Rhodes about to make a splotch... er, splash in Mid Atlantic as Flair's #1 foe, blah, blah, blah.

It would be fun.

In answer, I'll throw out an emphatic, 'We'll See!'
:)


I'd certainly be first in line waiting to play that data. Sounds like a great idea, a sequel of The Godfather Part 2-esque proportions. ;)

[Ransik]

Hello, I've started working on my own "New Workers" file for DOTT and I was wondering if it would be okay to release it to the public once I'm finished with it?

I've imported everyone from T-Zone into it and I'll be keeping a huge number of workers... just modifying everything to "debut" status.

[sprinklefurball]

Just curious but you are bringing their stats down right?

[TheMiser]

Ransik- definitely quality control it so the rankings are synchronized with DOTT debut workers. I would very interested in helping if need be.

[cappyboy]

Hello, I've started working on my own "New Workers" file for DOTT and I was wondering if it would be okay to release it to the public once I'm finished with it?

I've imported everyone from T-Zone into it and I'll be keeping a huge number of workers... just modifying everything to "debut" status.

Any chance of the odd addition from the era itself? Like say The Polish Prince. AKA Tom Urbanski. Probably most famous today as the bouncer paralyzed in the Pacman Jones rainmaking incident

[Fezzik]

Forgive, me I have done a little research but could not find any info. Has anyone updated the DOTT new worker folder to include more workers?

Thank you

[Ransik]

I'm working on one right now, but I haven't gotten the green light yet so I haven't put much effort into it.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Sure! As long as the new workers are somewhat inline with the existing future rookies, I think it is a fantastic idea.

[TheMiser]

D Boon, if I may, I would so humbly assert my preference for an older era MOD rather than a 1984 MOD. Once we start going with your current one, Piper and friends usually wind up with WWF anyway, although the Grand Wizard is still alive way past his real life date. I'd love a quick pre-1980's MOD one day in the future [even if not as detailed as DOTT], especially with the success of the fictional one.

However, I'd take ANYTHING you'd put out, Mr. Baker. :D

Once again, D. Boon, thank you- your DOTT MOD is so engrossing and detailed, I truthfully don't NEED any other game or MOD.

I hope a future version of TEW has the ability to set era adjustments, so the universe (product settings, actual TV shows, etc) would evolve on its own, but I don't mind being stuck in the 1980's so..;)

[PoisonedSuperman]

I got a question, is there any way that next time you update or release the thread that you could change the storylines from peoples names to say if they are face or heel? Sometimes I mess this up, I know its not your fault it would just be a big help to me if this could be done.

[rmz2]

When I try to play this mod it does not appear in my Database Options. What am I doing wrong?

[cappyboy]

When I try to play this mod it does not appear in my Database Options. What am I doing wrong?

How did you go about creating the directory you put the mod into? Did you do it within the game program or try to set up the directory first? If you did the latter, you're not finding it because the game's not aware that directory has mod files in it.

[Woodsmeister]

i took my laptop on holiday to me for 2 weeks and having no mods with me but DOTT i started as booker of Stampede, i was putting on C- shows as i was building up my british stable of Regal, Taylor and Finlay and also Dean Malenko was tearing up the competition.

[TheMiser]

Awesome.

[Ping von Erich]

I'm ripping things up right now with AWA, decided to play it semi-logically and bring in stars that were of a very old school nature and fit AWA's old school wrasslin' approach. Harley Race is my other mega heel alongside Bockwinkel and The Sheiks, Ken Patera and Jerry Blackwell, brought in Jimmy Hart to manage Race, have Steve Regal and Matt Borne working as their lackeys. Hennan manages Bockwinkel and The Anderson Cousins (Arn and Lars, total silent heel bodyguard types) two very nice heel stables at the top of the card. The only big time face I have left in the main event is Baron Von Raschke, but right below him I'm pushing Rick Martel and Paul Orndorff, so the face ranks are sprce but talented. I of course brought in Larry Lbyszko, slow build for him into the main event.. he'll step into the icon heel role once Bock hangs it up. The only oddballs on my roster are Adrian Street and Miss Linda, figured the full on gender bender gimmick and his dominatrix wife would draw some rowdy heat in the bible belt, eh? Heh.

I'm currently racing to get more prestige than WWF and start raiding talent, I want Ray Stevens before he retires so I can work a few tag matches with him and Bock reunited. I also want Tony Garea and Bob Backlund, both would fit like a glove in my AWA. And once I'm big enough, Dusty Rhodes and Dick Murdoch are so back in AWA, it's not even funny.

*gasp for air*

God damnit, nobody cares about this crap, I know.. but I just can't help making a post like this when I hit a good groove with a DOTT save. lol

[cappyboy]

The only oddballs on my roster are Adrian Street and Miss Linda, figured the full on gender bender gimmick and his dominatrix wife would draw some rowdy heat in the bible belt, eh? Heh.



Only problem with that is unless your program is taking the AWA national, they don't run the Bible belt. They run mostly the Great Lakes and the Midwest. Granted the Midwest is known for being pretty conservative too so your point kinda remains. And besides, the important part is that Street is a really solid talent behind the gimmick. If Ric Flair is "the original Rated R Superstar" as JBL has suggested on Smackdown, Street is the original Goldust.

[Ping von Erich]

Only problem with that is unless your program is taking the AWA national, they don't run the Bible belt. They run mostly the Great Lakes and the Midwest. Granted the Midwest is known for being pretty conservative too so your point kinda remains. And besides, the important part is that Street is a really solid talent behind the gimmick. If Ric Flair is "the original Rated R Superstar" as JBL has suggested on Smackdown, Street is the original Goldust.

That's what I meant, middle America, conservative folks that might find a a full grown British fellow dressed in feminine clothing, makeup and in pigtails a little uncomfortable. Totally on the "original Goldust" comment, spot on. I wish WWE would steal Dustin back from TNA and make Goldust Goldust again, as opposed to the sad comedy act they made him the last few go arounds. The wrestling world needs a few more characters like Adrian Street and Goldust running around.

[TheMiser]

Hey Ping, I love to read about other people's games, so I enjoy your posts. Adrian Street is a real sleeper in DOTT- I had him involved in A* feuds with Lawler and Slaughter.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Hey Ping, I love to read about other people's games, so I enjoy your posts. Adrian Street is a real sleeper in DOTT- I had him involved in A* feuds with Lawler and Slaughter.

I'll second these points; I, too, enjoy reading about other's games -- and Adrian Street rocks! :)

[EnchantedGoat]

So has anyone seen any of the new (real life) workers sign with anyone (besides the user player?). I'm a year into the mod as WCCW, and not a single new worker has wrestled a match yet. Are they just going to stay on the sidelines forever?

Love the mod - I've made it to Cult, and am on the fast track to national. I've managed A+ matches with David v. Adonis, Backlund, and Gino Hernandez (who was in on a loan contract), and surprisingly, Kevin v. Buddy Roberts. We also had a super-hot but very short feud between Brody and Terry Funk.

[soundsofsilver]

Enchanted- I have a game that i autoclick occasionally to see what happens in the long term, and while newer wrestlers didn't get picked up into stars immediately such as Sting and the Undertaker did in 1989 and 1991, some still eventually get signed. WWF (national) in 1990 signed Kevin Nash, Big Van Vader, and Ultimate Warrior. Big Van Vader is making the greatest strides, and is at C overness.

The key is keeping small promotions open that will hire the young talent and improve them.

[TheMiser]

GCW signed Undertaker in June 1985 in my game.

[TNAfever]

I can't wait to start a new DOTT game, but i'll wait for either a 1/84 scenario or at least when the new "future workers" file will be released

in the meantime, I can't decide which promotion to choose ; I rather prefer a promotion below Cult status, but which one is the most interesting to play with?

[TheMiser]

There's no telling when the 1/84 mod would ever be released....

Calgary Stampede Wrestling is a great small league.

[TNAfever]

There's no telling when the 1/84 mod would ever be released....

Calgary Stampede Wrestling is a great small league.

I know that the 84 scenario isn't sure to ever be released ; CSW is a nice idea, but isn't it boring considering that Bret Hart would dominate it until his eventual departure?

[TheMiser]

He stays Loyal for years, rejecting offers from everyone. Mid-South or Mid-Southern are two great leagues as well.

[TNAfever]

any news about the "future workers" expanded file? :)

[Anubis]

I'd like to know that as well. It would be awesome if the "New workers" data included like everyone that debuts up until present day. It'd also be nice to see the women's wrestling scene expanded a bit to include the modern promotions and women. These additions would make this the most definitive comprehensive data package for TEW2007.

[Jim Force]

I'd like to know that as well. It would be awesome if the "New workers" data included like everyone that debuts up until present day. It'd also be nice to see the women's wrestling scene expanded a bit to include the modern promotions and women. These additions would make this the most definitive comprehensive data package for TEW2007.

Then perhaps the time for you to make such a mod has arrived!!!

Feel the gods of thunder rumbling within your mind!! AARRGGGHHHH!!!

[Anubis]

I would if I thought there was any chance of me doing it justice. There would be people who should be in the file that I just don't know anything about.

[D16NJD16]

I'd do it. For the next TEW.

[Jim Force]

There would be people who should be in the file that I just don't know anything about.

That would be just about everyone except Hulk Hogan.

[D16NJD16]

~~!

[Anubis]

I have to wonder why moderators are letting trolling go on in the mods forum.

[D16NJD16]

Im with ya anubis. Maybe you should run for moderator this coming year.

[Anubis]

Nah, but I definitely wanna be a beta tester for Adam for either the MMA game, or better yet, for TEW2009 or whatever is next. Sure, I can be annoying, but being one of the most critical complainers on this forum makes me a perfect candidate for beta testing since I'd be nitpicking every little glitch that pops up. I may not be the most liked person around, but beta testing is more about results than popularity, ya?

;)

Oops, off-topic, my bad . . .

Ah, um, well other than hoping for more DOTT, I got nothing else to add really . . .

EDIT: Actually, I do. Just curious, but due to the 1.5 update that causes earlier retirement, is there any plan to bump up the starting physical conditions of a lot of the workers in order to stop them from retiring too early?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

... EDIT: Actually, I do. Just curious, but due to the 1.5 update that causes earlier retirement, is there any plan to bump up the starting physical conditions of a lot of the workers in order to stop them from retiring too early?

I hadn't planned on it - though I would strongly suggest those still playing the mod to do so with their own games. After all, many of the kayfabe stars tended to stick around well into their 50s (whether they should have or not - heh).

[Anubis]

Probably easiest to wait until they retire, and if you want them to stick around, put them active again and give back their style before buffing their physical conditions. I think that would work.

Does anyone know if that would work? Like if Harley Race retires too early and you set him back to active, will he eventually retire again, or will he remain active until he dies?

[D16NJD16]

I hadn't planned on it - though I would strongly suggest those still playing the mod to do so with their own games. After all, many of the kayfabe stars tended to stick around well into their 50s (whether they should have or not - heh).

Suggestions on who to bump?

[D16NJD16]

question about something ive been trying to get for awhile. I saw a few diarys with different style pics then the original really small border DOTT cuts that no one liked. They were the same pictures, but much biger and clearer, showing more of the wrestlers. Can someone direct me where to download those?

[SHaynes23]

question about something ive been trying to get for awhile. I saw a few diarys with different style pics then the original really small border DOTT cuts that no one liked. They were the same pictures, but much biger and clearer, showing more of the wrestlers. Can someone direct me where to download those?

In my DOTT dynasties I've made my own pictures for all the workers to give it a different look. I found the majority of the pictures at www.onlineworldofwrestling.com. Others I just found through a Google or Yahoo Search, and on a rare occasion from fan sites for the wrestlers.

[D16NJD16]

In my DOTT dynasties I've made my own pictures for all the workers to give it a different look. I found the majority of the pictures at www.onlineworldofwrestling.com. Others I just found through a Google or Yahoo Search, and on a rare occasion from fan sites for the wrestlers.

Thanks, but I know these bigger versions exist. I cant of dreamed them up

[D. Boon's Ghost]

question about something ive been trying to get for awhile. I saw a few diarys with different style pics then the original really small border DOTT cuts that no one liked. They were the same pictures, but much biger and clearer, showing more of the wrestlers. Can someone direct me where to download those?

If we are speaking of the same type of picture, I made those for the release.

Just in case, here is a sample of the ones I am referring to:

http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Road_Warrior_Hawk.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Paul_Ellering.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Road_Warrior_Animal.jpg
http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Bob_Backlund.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Buzz_Sawyer.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Gino_Hernandez_3.jpg

If you check the first post, there are links for several batches - although I am pretty sure I attached a bunch of them to the original .exe file.

[D16NJD16]

If we are speaking of the same type of picture, I made those for the release.

Just in case, here is a sample of the ones I am referring to:

http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Road_Warrior_Hawk.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Paul_Ellering.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Road_Warrior_Animal.jpg
http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Bob_Backlund.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Buzz_Sawyer.jpg http://cyclopsltd.net/pics/Gino_Hernandez_3.jpg

If you check the first post, there are links for several batches - although I am pretty sure I attached a bunch of them to the original .exe file.


Those are it! Thanks

[Typhoon]

Sorry if it's off topic but I could use some suggestions. I just downloaded DOTT and it looks awesome. Now I know very little about that era but I'm excited to learn more. So, what promotion would you suggest I start with just to get a good feel for the mod and the era? I wanted to start with Mid-Atlantic but it was quite overwhelming and almost intimadating. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

[theoutlaw321]

Sorry if it's off topic but I could use some suggestions. I just downloaded DOTT and it looks awesome. Now I know very little about that era but I'm excited to learn more. So, what promotion would you suggest I start with just to get a good feel for the mod and the era? I wanted to start with Mid-Atlantic but it was quite overwhelming and almost intimadating. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Depends on what you want to do. The WWF, MACW, and AWA would probably be the easier ones in which to succeed with right away.

The WWF will steal certain workers pretty much right off the bat. They're the big dog that you will chase.

[shipshirt]

I would recommend WCCW (Texas) as well. You have the Von Erichs as very over and you can go right into a feud with the Freebirds (until Michael Hayes wants too much money to re-sign :) ). It's a small roster but a decent sized company. It's a good one to not get too overwhelmed with and you can move up to Cult and be a contender in a couple of years.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

WCCW is one of my favorites (as might be obvious by the large amount of WCCW-based storylines in the scenario) - but they've a couple of points that make them tough to play. First off, you really need to bring in a respected Road Agent right off the bat in order to keep that roster from revolting. Between the Von Erich brothers and the Freebirds, you've got some head cases that will rip morale apart.

Even worse... if you are playing with Owner Goals and Fritz pulls out the anti-druggie gambit, you are in trouble. Not only do you have to worry about your existing roster, but in the event of a 'no drug users' hiring policy, snagging Gino Hernandez is out of the question.
And WCCW needs Hernandez. He is YOUR champion, dontchaknow. :)

[shipshirt]

WCCW is one of my favorites (as might be obvious by the large amount of WCCW-based storylines in the scenario) - but they've a couple of points that make them tough to play. First off, you really need to bring in a respected Road Agent right off the bat in order to keep that roster from revolting. Between the Von Erich brothers and the Freebirds, you've got some head cases that will rip morale apart.

Even worse... if you are playing with Owner Goals and Fritz pulls out the anti-druggie gambit, you are in trouble. Not only do you have to worry about your existing roster, but in the event of a 'no drug users' hiring policy, snagging Gino Hernandez is out of the question.
And WCCW needs Hernandez. He is YOUR champion, dontchaknow. :)

I've never had too many problems without a huge Road Agent but yeah. that no druggie policy can be a killer. It made me have to give up Kerry in one game. Gino is hard to get anyway though due to his loyalty to his "alleged dad" Paul Boesch

(as a side note...I was actually at the Paul Boesch retirement show in Houston in the 80's. I was visiting my stepdad's family down there and they got us tickets to wrestling...and it just happened to be that historic night)

[WrestleManiac]

I'm trying to download DOTT but the link don't work. Any ideas?

[soundsofsilver]

Did you try the bobinc.net link?

[WrestleManiac]

I tried that and the link brings me back to this thread... which doesn't work.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

http://cyclopsltd.net/files/TEWDOTT.exe -- this is the main .exe file

After that, I would snag the Updated and/or the Optional File links from the first post in this thread. At the very least, I would make sure to grab the v1.35 update.

[WrestleManiac]

Thank you Mr Ghost. I got it now.

[still71]

Hey FYI none of the download links are working.

[SuperOwens]

Hey FYI none of the download links are working.

Yep, not working here either. Can anybody host the data or pass it on to us please?

Cheers

[angeldelayette]

If anyone needs the file I'll zip them up in a .rar file and send them your way. Just let me know via pm.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Sorry for the hassles. I maintained that server space for a few years, but got bored with it and decided it wasn't worth renewing.

The only place that hosts D.O.T.T. stuff seems to be http://www.ewinventory.com/tew07.html
They have the main .exe file, but none of the updates (files and pictures) that I released along the way. Hopefully some kind person would be able to bundle those up.

[djthefunkchris]

I checked out BobINC.net, and clicked on it, it looked like the link was working to me, so that might be another place to try.

[djthefunkchris]

I checked out BobINC.net, and clicked on it, it looked like the link was working to me, so that might be another place to try.

Clicked on it and now downloading into another folder, so it's working.

[ValiantJoey]

I know this answer is probably somewhere but it would probably take a bit to find.

How long into the game can you go before the edited in new workers are done entering the business?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

I know this answer is probably somewhere but it would probably take a bit to find.

How long into the game can you go before the edited in new workers are done entering the business?

The New Workers file contains wrestlers that debut up to the late 1990s, I believe. So you've got close to twenty years.

[ACCBiggz]

Sorry for not updating stuff DBG, have not been around a whole lot to update the stuff. Plus I haven't checked the TEW07 Mod forums in months thanks to MMA stuff, and didn't get any PM's about anything. I'm currently on dial-up throughout the holidays, but I'll let someone know and we'll get the updates and whatnot up soon enough.

[Johnny Fenoli]

any ideas when all the files are going to be back up online?

pic packs, backgrounds, the works? I'd really like to get back into this!

thanks,
Johnny Fenoli

[[Icy]]

Looking also for the mod to be uploaded again, if needed i can host it.

[sprinklefurball]

its on http://www.ewinventory.com

[Johnny Fenoli]

its on http://www.ewinventory.com

It's the version 1.0 of the data though, and doesnt have the backgrounds and all that other jazz.

[CapGermany]

i would be really grateful if someone could upload the DOTT foles for TEW 2007...

[Blasphemywebleed]

Any news on a new upload?

[Johnny Fenoli]

Does anyone have the files from the latest update that they could post, or email out to anyone? I'd apperciate it personally.

[Consrvtve]

I hope these are what you guys are looking for:

[Consrvtve]

belts...

[Consrvtve]

this board is taking forever to upload the bigger files. I have the 1.35 data, the background graphics and theme music as well as all the DOTT pics.

If anyone wants these emailed, contact me via PM with your email addy and I'll do my best to get them to you.

[SaySo]

this board is taking forever to upload the bigger files. I have the 1.35 data, the background graphics and theme music as well as all the DOTT pics.

If anyone wants these emailed, contact me via PM with your email addy and I'll do my best to get them to you.


I will appreciate it if you sent it to my PM me here (if you can upload here) or clault@inbox.com

[Dolfanar]

Ok D.Boon, time to start thinking about DOTT for TEW 08 :)

As always I stand ready to assist you.

[T-Jay]

Is there any chance of having the storyline file edited to show who is face or heel for each character within the storyline? I find I'm having to go into the main editor just to find out who is face/heel for each story which is somewhat frustrating.

[Sartagis]

Ok D.Boon, time to start thinking about DOTT for TEW 08 :)

As always I stand ready to assist you.
Second that.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Is there any chance of having the storyline file edited to show who is face or heel for each character within the storyline? I find I'm having to go into the main editor just to find out who is face/heel for each story which is somewhat frustrating.

I basically created the storylines for myself - and those that remember them.
I used a Protagonist (Face) / Antagonist (Heel) set-up on a lot of the more generic ones in order to help out. However, on the more customized storylines, I stuck with the actual character names; again... for those that remember them.

I feel if I simply used a Face / Heel designation on those roles, it takes away from the charm of the mod.
I do apologize for whatever hassle that brings with it. Perhaps with the next version I will consider simplifying the process.

Ok D.Boon, time to start thinking about DOTT for TEW 08

I'm thinking about it! :)

There are a few things I would like to do with the mod -- lowering overall worker stats by a good 10-20% across the board (in order to highlight the good workers from the chumps), removing all of those conceptualized house show events (the scheduled weekly 'In Your Town'-type of events), enriching Europe and Mexico by adding more available workers, adding a ton more women to the worker pool, finally doing a more comprehensive New Workers file, etc.
Basically working on making the long-term game just as enjoyable as the short-term.

So we'll see.

[theoutlaw321]

I'm thinking about it! :)

There are a few things I would like to do with the mod -- lowering overall worker stats by a good 10-20% across the board (in order to highlight the good workers from the chumps), removing all of those conceptualized house show events (the scheduled weekly 'In Your Town'-type of events), enriching Europe and Mexico by adding more available workers, adding a ton more women to the worker pool, finally doing a more comprehensive New Workers file, etc.
Basically working on making the long-term game just as enjoyable as the short-term.

So we'll see.

I have my fingers crossed! :D

[MrOnu]

I feel if I simply used a Face / Heel designation on those roles, it takes away from the charm of the mod.
I do apologize for whatever hassle that brings with it. Perhaps with the next version I will consider simplifying the process.


Maybe you could keep it as it is right now and add a note to the readme file about who's who in each storyline like you did for the aliases.

[cappyboy]

I basically created the storylines for myself - and those that remember them.
I used a Protagonist (Face) / Antagonist (Heel) set-up on a lot of the more generic ones in order to help out. However, on the more customized storylines, I stuck with the actual character names; again... for those that remember them.

I feel if I simply used a Face / Heel designation on those roles, it takes away from the charm of the mod.
I do apologize for whatever hassle that brings with it. Perhaps with the next version I will consider simplifying the process.



What I've tried to do when creating my mythological stories for Panix or Sprinklefurball is note both the role name and likely alignment. That way the source material is honored and folks can relate if they don't know the source that well. Because I do agree with you about the charm of having the original role notations available when using the DOTT stories and data together. It's like an immersion aid that way.

[T-Jay]

What if you were to leave the storylines as is.. but add a (f) or (h) depending on what alignment said person is???

[TheMiser]

Hey D.Boon,

I just want to comment on D.O.T.T. 2008- if it ever comes to that.

First of all, last year's MOD is still the best MOD, for numerous reasons- one of them being your accurate stats.

Although I doubt the next TEW version would incorporate a truly historical/organic sim, that truly would be the ultimate experience:

If you had an entire historic game that automatically adjusted and evolved by eras, you would have the ability to incorporate house shows more in tune towards reality.

I personally couldn't care less about modern stuff, and have always been obsessed with the past.

I noticed some of your stats for some retired or deceased workers looks like they were active at one time. I always wanted for you to do an older MOD where some of the greats where in their primes, or even a {shudder} fictional universe where everyone is in their primes from across eras.

I had to settle for creating a make-shift personal organic MOD using your workers, and editing each one.

Anyway, D.O.T.T. for this current TEW is the best. Anything you want to do in the future- your loyal fans know it would be of high quality. You will always be limited because TEW doesn't try to emulate pro wrestling exactly (especially past eras) but you make the best of it.

[Dolfanar]

There are a few things I would like to do with the mod -- lowering overall worker stats by a good 10-20% across the board (in order to highlight the good workers from the chumps), removing all of those conceptualized house show events (the scheduled weekly 'In Your Town'-type of events), enriching Europe and Mexico by adding more available workers, adding a ton more women to the worker pool, finally doing a more comprehensive New Workers file, etc.
Basically working on making the long-term game just as enjoyable as the short-term.

So we'll see.

Sounds good Boon! The house shows are a pretty good call to remove. They were a really good idea in theory, but in practice ti really was no substitute. Aside from WWE and there MSG/PRISM/NESN shows (1 each a month) there really was no point. There are 3 changes that would make this sOOO much easier for you though:

1) House Shows even with PPA contracts.
2) Monthly TV Events (Covers WWE style and SNM Style TV)
3) Multiple TV taping events (ie taping 3-4 weeks of TV at one monthly event).

A alternative to 3 would be to have a single TV taping a week but taping 2-3 shows a shot (MACW AND NWA World Wide Wrestling, Championship Wrestling AND All Star Wrestling)

[D16NJD16]

check your PMs Ghost

[DocStevens]

I basically created the storylines for myself - and those that remember them.
I used a Protagonist (Face) / Antagonist (Heel) set-up on a lot of the more generic ones in order to help out. However, on the more customized storylines, I stuck with the actual character names; again... for those that remember them.

I feel if I simply used a Face / Heel designation on those roles, it takes away from the charm of the mod.
I do apologize for whatever hassle that brings with it. Perhaps with the next version I will consider simplifying the process.


I hope you do NOT change how you write the storylines. I really enjoy having the real worker names included because it helps bring the storyline to life and even helps with recreating in the game. For example if I know Jake Roberts circa 1984 was part of a storyline but I am using the storyline with someone else later on, I at least have a good feel for how the character should act and what the purpose of the storyline was. Not sure if that makes sense but the bottom line is that I enjoy how you do the storylines!

[misfit103]

*EDIT* oops, wrong data. I sent it to bobinc too, so it should be up there soon.

Got the updated data files, here they are in a .zip just so no one has this problem again.

http://rapidshare.com/files/81251255/DOTT135Data.zip.html

Also, I've gotten into this HUGE, but I'm not a fan of the title belts. I know it's impossible to get decent pics of most of them, but here's some NWA ones I did, as well as some alternate NWA logos I dug up.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/nwatag1-1.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/nwatv.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/nwaus.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/nwaworld.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/NWA1.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/NWA2.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t140/endofanera_2007/NWA3.jpg

[Consrvtve]

I hope the guys who got my data have fun

[misfit103]

I'm having a blast with this, thanks for sending it.

[djthefunkchris]

I'm thinking about it! :)

There are a few things I would like to do with the mod -- lowering overall worker stats by a good 10-20% across the board (in order to highlight the good workers from the chumps), removing all of those conceptualized house show events (the scheduled weekly 'In Your Town'-type of events), enriching Europe and Mexico by adding more available workers, adding a ton more women to the worker pool, finally doing a more comprehensive New Workers file, etc.
Basically working on making the long-term game just as enjoyable as the short-term.

So we'll see.

Can't wait!!

[Saffir]

This mod's probably the best mod I've encounters, however, there's one thing that kind of bothers me. I'm just wondering if it's a TEW thing, though.

The promotions rarely dip into the workers that are unemployed, instead they sign workers in other promotions. I don't think I've ever seen a new worker added to the game picked up by an exisiting promotion. I'm running ICW and I end up prefering new workers or unemployed wrestlers if I need to pick up an extra body or two. Unfortunately I see wrestlers like Ric Flair, or Ted DiBiase, or Terry Gordy unemployed and unsigned, and I can't pick them up because they're too big for my promotion.

Does anyone that play with this mod a lot have any solutions?

[Day_Dreamer]

Long time fan of dott here, my HDD crashed recently and I have to redownload everything now.

The links on the first page expired. I downloaded the 1.35 data from the link above. But could someone please re-up the people pic packs, logos, belts and stuff.

[Consrvtve]

Day, PM me with your email and I can send that stuff to you.

[BurningHamster]

This mod's probably the best mod I've encounters, however, there's one thing that kind of bothers me. I'm just wondering if it's a TEW thing, though.

The promotions rarely dip into the workers that are unemployed, instead they sign workers in other promotions. I don't think I've ever seen a new worker added to the game picked up by an exisiting promotion. I'm running ICW and I end up prefering new workers or unemployed wrestlers if I need to pick up an extra body or two. Unfortunately I see wrestlers like Ric Flair, or Ted DiBiase, or Terry Gordy unemployed and unsigned, and I can't pick them up because they're too big for my promotion.

Does anyone that play with this mod a lot have any solutions?

I've seen new workers get signed quite frequently, however I think the fact that Mr. Baker to his credit keeps stats very low makes a lot of workers not very attractive to the promotions.

As for guys like Flair and Gordy, unfortunately I think this is one of the major problems Adam Ryland likes to add to his games which to me has always been a huge pain in the butt. Very popular workers don't want to sign with a promotion they think is beneath them, yet when there are no huge promotions the best workers end up unemployed and refusing to work for anyone. I've never seen a real solution to this problem unfortunately but you could always play around with lowering some overness and just see how it plays out.

[TheMiser]

You're right, BurningHamster. Unless a worker is on hiatus, I would think they would work anywhere (or at least for the most prestigious company in his area) instead of remaining unemployed. Let's hope this changes a bit for the next TEW game.

[HiFiRevival]

I've PMed Ghost about this as well, but wondered if anyone here could figure this out. I'm running the cage match blowoff storyline, and part 9 is:

Protag invites to ring, no face off

The notes say it must be a hype angle with the two workers as catalysts. I haven't found anything in the angles that would work for this step. Any ideas?

[misfit103]

Make it in the editor and import it in?

[angeldelayette]

I've PMed Ghost about this as well, but wondered if anyone here could figure this out. I'm running the cage match blowoff storyline, and part 9 is:

Protag invites to ring, no face off

The notes say it must be a hype angle with the two workers as catalysts. I haven't found anything in the angles that would work for this step. Any ideas?

Skit: Face Off, But No Contact is what is meant, perhaps?

[HiFiRevival]

Skit: Face Off, But No Contact is what is meant, perhaps?

I thought about that one, but it doesn't seem to quite fit. I'll probably run it anyways. I guess this is what I get for trying to be WWA all the time.

EDIT: This worked for the storyline, so I'm assuming it was the one meant.

[Surlyc]

I can't access the site (www.cyclopsltd.net)... is it because I'm in the UK maybe?

If I continue to be unable to download from that site, is there another way (or place) for me to get this mod?

[praize1979]

to get the most updates aka the unofficial with minor twicks in the data file you can go to bobinc.net (http://www.bobinc.com)

To get the pic packs that avaliable you can got to EWinventory.com (http://www.EWinventory.com) you'll have to go under the tew 05 link to get them but they work for pics and such

[misfit103]

Isn't the 1.35 update official? It's the same as what they had on the main post here.

[theoutlaw321]

I can't access the site (www.cyclopsltd.net)... is it because I'm in the UK maybe?

If I continue to be unable to download from that site, is there another way (or place) for me to get this mod?

Eric didn't renew the site. You will have to access one of the other places that it is hosted.

[Socko]

In an effort to try and help some of you guys out, I've uploaded my DOTT folder, including the data (v1.35) and pictures. Please note that I have removed the live weekly shows from promotions after consulting Eric (Boon).

For the new guys .. extract the DOTT folder from the archive, and place in your "..\TEW2007\Data" folder.

Link (http://www.savefile.com/files/1333891)

[Ping von Erich]

In an effort to try and help some of you guys out, I've uploaded my DOTT folder, including the data (v1.35) and pictures. Please note that I have removed the live weekly shows from promotions after consulting Eric (Boon).

For the new guys .. extract the DOTT folder from the archive, and place in your "..\TEW2007\Data" folder.

Link (http://www.savefile.com/files/1333891)

Any other changes other than taking out the weekly shows?

[Socko]

Any other changes other than taking out the weekly shows?

Nope, just that change made Ping.

[bobinc]

I should have all DOTT downloads now on bobinc.net including wrestler pics, logos, belts, game files.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

For those interested: Instead of mucking up Adam's TEW hype in the '08 section of the forum, I thought I would throw out there that 'pre-work' is being done on the existing data to bring it up to shape for TEW08.

To quote Captain Beefheart, our intentions are to make this years Death of the Territories mod the 'Best Batch Yet'.

* Long-term games will be more enjoyable, as the New Workers file will be much more comprehensive - and properly scaled with the rest of the game world.

* More diverse storylines and angles that follow the same quality standards that previous DOTT versions have brought to the table.

* Nagging hiccups in last years version will be smoothed over. For example, Ric Flair will now stay employed!

* Game areas such as Mexico will be better represented.

* Etc., Etc., Blah, Blah, Blah...


:)

[justtxyank]

Hooray!

[foolinc]

For those interested: Instead of mucking up Adam's TEW hype in the '08 section of the forum, I thought I would throw out there that 'pre-work' is being done on the existing data to bring it up to shape for TEW08.

To quote Captain Beefheart, our intentions are to make this years Death of the Territories mod the 'Best Batch Yet'.

* Long-term games will be more enjoyable, as the New Workers file will be much more comprehensive - and properly scaled with the rest of the game world.

* More diverse storylines and angles that follow the same quality standards that previous DOTT versions have brought to the table.

* Nagging hiccups in last years version will be smoothed over. For example, Ric Flair will now stay employed!

* Game areas such as Mexico will be better represented.

* Etc., Etc., Blah, Blah, Blah...


:)

Excellent news. When TEW 08 is released I'll be available for beta testing.

[shipshirt]

For those interested: Instead of mucking up Adam's TEW hype in the '08 section of the forum, I thought I would throw out there that 'pre-work' is being done on the existing data to bring it up to shape for TEW08.

To quote Captain Beefheart, our intentions are to make this years Death of the Territories mod the 'Best Batch Yet'.

* Long-term games will be more enjoyable, as the New Workers file will be much more comprehensive - and properly scaled with the rest of the game world.

* More diverse storylines and angles that follow the same quality standards that previous DOTT versions have brought to the table.

* Nagging hiccups in last years version will be smoothed over. For example, Ric Flair will now stay employed!

* Game areas such as Mexico will be better represented.

* Etc., Etc., Blah, Blah, Blah...


:)

You have made me a very happy gamer!! DOTT is the best mod on any game I have ever played. There I said it :)

Some things I would LOVE to see in '08

** Pushing the starting date back a few years...maybe to 1980. I'd love to see the rise of some of the big stars and have the territory "era" last just a little longer in game :) Maybe WWF and AWA will stay in business a few extra years :)

** I've always thought the Von Erichs should have Lifetime contracts with WCCW..just my opinion. It wouldn't make sense for Fritz to not want to sign one of his songs to a renewed deal. With the new Owner Goals enhancement, though, this may not even be a factor. So forget I said anything :)

** Maybe (with a pushed back start date) start the bigger companies off as Regional instead of Cult...

Seriously, those are all the suggestions I could come up with after playing the mod nonstop. That's how tight this game is!

Can't wait, D Boon!


EDIT: I attempted a little side game with CWA in Memphis and got the note that the matches were too intense for the crowd. I tried to lower the intensity but Jerry Jarrett wouldn't let me. I only played one week as them thus far so I don't know how that will shake out. They might need to be monkeyed with.

[gazwefc83]

ye i would just go into the in game editor and drop it (a little cheating to get past a glitch never hurt anybody)

"Win if you can, Lose if you must, but ALWAYS cheat!"

[Socko]

Thanks for pointing out the Product issues there .. I've just gone through and checked/fixed all of the promotions in the mod as a result. :)

[Bigalbass86]

Its always awsome when I figure out how to work things. Once I finally learned how to input mods in the game this was the first one that I downloaded and wow, I'm not dissappointed. The way it looked and how deep this mod is was incredible, I was at first overwhelmed by the detailed storylines and angles, it was almost hard to understand. But once I got into it, now its easy and fun and I love it.:D

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Thanks for the kind words, Bigalbass86. It's always nice when someone takes time out of their schedule to pass along their kudos.

[teakle]

Its always awsome when I figure out how to work things. Once I finally learned how to input mods in the game this was the first one that I downloaded and wow, I'm not dissappointed. The way it looked and how deep this mod is was incredible, I was at first overwhelmed by the detailed storylines and angles, it was almost hard to understand. But once I got into it, now its easy and fun and I love it.:D

Completely agree. I am somewhat undecided about whether I will buy 2008, but a DOTT version for it will go someway to pushing me to buy it.

You have created a fantastic mod that I have followed from Wrespi and it abosutely makes the game for me.

[DocStevens]

DOTT should be included as part of the official TEW08 release! :)

[Self]

DOTT should be included as part of the official TEW08 release! :)

Would be nice... except for the lawsuit... that would probably suck. :)

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Socko has been doing some amazing work on this stuff, guys.

He actually fixed the 'Flair refuses to work anywhere' issue! Plus another twenty or thirty things - heh. :)

[justtxyank]

What did you do to resolve that problem Socko?

[Socko]

What did you do to resolve that problem Socko?
Basically, we re-scaled the popularity levels of the Cult promotions within DOTT, giving them a slightly higher status, meaning that Flair has more chance of staying within their grasp. Though, we can only do so much without bumping the Cults up *too* much. :)

In the last test that was ran, he left MACW in early '85, took a year out (like I said .. only so much we can do, heh) before joining AGPW in Spring of '86. By October, AWA (now National) came-a-knockin', and he spent 2 1/2 years there. He then travelled to Japan, performing for both AJPW and NJPW until the turn of 1990. At this point it was Calgary Stampede (National status) who tabled an offer he couldn't refuse, where he's currently involved in a program with Bret Hart. :)

Needless to say, we're pretty pleased with recent tests, but there's still a few issues outstanding that we're looking into at present.

[foolinc]

In an effort to try and help some of you guys out, I've uploaded my DOTT folder, including the data (v1.35) and pictures. Please note that I have removed the live weekly shows from promotions after consulting Eric (Boon).

For the new guys .. extract the DOTT folder from the archive, and place in your "..\TEW2007\Data" folder.

Link (http://www.savefile.com/files/1333891)

This sounds very familiar...:D

[dvdWarrior]

Glad to hear DOTT is shaping up so nicely for TEW 2008, can't wait to see what it plays like. For the first time since, like, EWR, I'm getting the itch to try out a game as WWF, maybe make a light-heavyweight title a big part of the product as far back as the 1980's and see how history plays out with that.

Sounds a little bit like fun.

:)

[Ping von Erich]

I just can't wait to use the auto sim function and shoot a game all the way up to like '90 and see how the game plays everything out.

[justtxyank]

Just wanted to tell you Boon, I've now made it through 4 Wrestlemanias as the WWF.

My main events were:
1) Hogan v Iron Sheik (B+)
2) Hogan v Andre (A*)
3) Hogan v Flair (A)
4) Steamboat v Flair (A* match of the year)

I also got two A* tag team matches. At WM 2, The British Bulldogs over the Brainbusters was A* and at WM1 the Texas Tornadoes (Kerry&David Von Erich) over the British Bulldogs.

I just love this mod.

[jpuk]

Has anyone got the DOTT 07 screens for download? Thanks!

[Socko]

Has anyone got the DOTT 07 screens for download? Thanks!
I'll have a hunt around on my machine for you - I may still have them here. If so, I'll upload them asap .. oh, and apologies for the delayed reply.

[Socko]

My apologies jpuk, but I can't find those screens you requested - hopefully someone else will be good enough to upload them? :)

We're making fine progress ironing out the kinks from v1.35, and I'm pleased to say that testing is coming along in leaps and bounds. We're hopeful that we can release one final version of DOTT for TEW07 before work begins on v08. :)

[justtxyank]

Hey I found a few errors you might want to correct.

1) The response angle where a tag team does an interview and accepts a challenge is set up to create an advanced booking. Unfortunately it sets the match up as : Team1A & Team1B vs Team2A & Announcer. (Roadwarriors vs Scott Steiner & Gorilla Monsoon for example.)

2) One of the tournament angles, the 8 man not intended for one day, has one of the matches being something like "blank as side 1 and blank as side 2 with side 5 winning." As I'm writing this it occurs to me this may be intentional, but I don't think it was.

3) A lot of workers have the semi-active wrestler option set in their profiles even at a young age.

4) Gorilla Monsoon should have a lifetime contract with the WWF. When Vince McMahon took over the WWF from his father, he bought out Monsoon's share of the company. Part of the transaction was a guaranteed job for life.

[da_man_dh]

I have 2 questions:
1. Why is Terry Gordy a freelancer? He is so young at this time.
2. Why is World Class hostile to so many cult promotions? What did they do to piss them off?

[jgriff3029]

I have 2 questions:
1. Why is Terry Gordy a freelancer? He is so young at this time.
2. Why is World Class hostile to so many cult promotions? What did they do to piss them off?

2. I believe it is because they left the NWA.

[justtxyank]

Another small error.

The WWF title's weight restrictions are set as such that it prevents Andre the Giant from winning it. Obviously easy to correct (which I did) but for future releases you might want to fix that.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Thanks for pointing that stuff out...

* Monsoon should have a Lifetime contract; I agree. And thought he did. Heh.

* Gordy as Freelancer? Not sure. Keep in mind that it's been quite some time since I did this stuff, but didn't he jump around in Japan?

* WCCW, as pointed out, was heading towards breaking off from the NWA. But... promotion relationships might be changed around with the next version.

* That title belt... I originally prevented Andre from winning it in one of these D.O.T.T. versions - might have been one of the Wrestling Spirit games, simply because the AI always handed it to him straight off the bat. It began to irk me. :)
I never changed that setting, figuring the Player could do it themselves.

Again - thanks.

[Jaded]

One more small error - can you do something to Robert Fuller so that he either doesn't have the tag titles in SWCW at the start of the game, or actually defends them? (I think he's set to semi-active or something)

In my almanacs dynasty, I think the tag reign is about to hit 7 1/2 years without a defence!! :D

[shipshirt]

Thanks for pointing that stuff out...
* Gordy as Freelancer? Not sure. Keep in mind that it's been quite some time since I did this stuff, but didn't he jump around in Japan?


Not at the time of the DOTT mod though. Then he was following Michael Hayes around and could probably be put at normal.

I still wonder if the Von Erichs should be lifetime with WCCW.

Oh and don't forget to change the mentor-protogee <sp?> with Doug Somers and Harley Race. The way the data is now it has Somers as the mentor of Race :)

[shipshirt]

My apologies jpuk, but I can't find those screens you requested - hopefully someone else will be good enough to upload them? :)

We're making fine progress ironing out the kinks from v1.35, and I'm pleased to say that testing is coming along in leaps and bounds. We're hopeful that we can release one final version of DOTT for TEW07 before work begins on v08. :)

I'll check when I get home.

[Sartagis]

Screens and Theme Music (http://rapidshare.com/files/101316569/TEW07_DOTT_Screens_ThemeMusic.rar.html)

[Jaded]

The Celt has pointed out that NOAH didn't open until 2000 - it's set to open in 1990 atm.

(This is just a cheap way of plugging that my dynasty is now in 1990, really :) )

[markieje]

Harley Race & Larry Hennig and Jimmy Snuka and Ray Stevens need to be added as teams.

Dick Murdoch should be more willing to work in Japan; he worked a lot over there.

Wahoo McDaniel should be available for Canada; in Bret Hart's biography, he is touring there.

Jack Brisco also worked Japan - he traded the NWA title with Baba.

Shouldn't Inoki have a lifetime contract with NJPW?

[markieje]

Monsoon is involved in both WWF and WWC, so he can't be Lifetime.

Thanks for pointing that stuff out...

* Monsoon should have a Lifetime contract; I agree. And thought he did. Heh.

* Gordy as Freelancer? Not sure. Keep in mind that it's been quite some time since I did this stuff, but didn't he jump around in Japan?

* WCCW, as pointed out, was heading towards breaking off from the NWA. But... promotion relationships might be changed around with the next version.

* That title belt... I originally prevented Andre from winning it in one of these D.O.T.T. versions - might have been one of the Wrestling Spirit games, simply because the AI always handed it to him straight off the bat. It began to irk me. :)
I never changed that setting, figuring the Player could do it themselves.

Again - thanks.

[JD61572]

First of all I want to say that I love DOTT so kudos to all of the people who worked on it. Since Hawaii is it's own region in the game now are you guys planning on including Polynesian Pro? Also, while I was looking up stuff about the promotion I noticed that Peter Maivia died in 1982 and he isn't set as dead in the database.

[D16NJD16]

My burning question about the 08 version of DOTT. Will Little Fiji's Looks rating be properly re-rated to reflect reality(You know as in, her not beng the hottest thing ever on the planet), or continue to reflect D. Boons schoolboy crush on her?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

My burning question about the 08 version of DOTT. Will Little Fiji's Looks rating be properly re-rated to reflect reality(You know as in, her not beng the hottest thing ever on the planet), or continue to reflect D. Boons schoolboy crush on her?

Sure. That's no problem.

Because Col. Ninchotka has replaced her as the 'hottest thing ever'!
;)

[D16NJD16]

Sure. That's no problem.

Because Col. Ninchotka has replaced her as the 'hottest thing ever'!
;)

HotER thats for sure.

[TeflonBilly]

Sure. That's no problem.

Because Col. Ninchotka has replaced her as the 'hottest thing ever'!
;)

You're an excellent mod maker, but also a wise man. :)

[Dolfanar]

My burning question about the 08 version of DOTT. Will Little Fiji's Looks rating be properly re-rated to reflect reality(You know as in, her not beng the hottest thing ever on the planet), or continue to reflect D. Boons schoolboy crush on her?

Little Fiji IS the hottest thing ever. Bite your tongue boy!

[Dolfanar]

Sure. That's no problem.

Because Col. Ninchotka has replaced her as the 'hottest thing ever'!
;)

Traitor! Communist dog!



BTW... I don't suppose there is any way we can have the GLOW girls debut in '86 this time around?

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Hmmm... as much as it would pain me (simply because I like the annoyance factor - and Ninotchka), a proper starting date for G.L.O.W. is very likely.

We'll see. :)

[Dolfanar]

Hmmm... as much as it would pain me (simply because I like the annoyance factor - and Ninotchka), a proper starting date for G.L.O.W. is very likely.

We'll see. :)

Waaaah? Reallllly?

I was just throwing that one out there for traditions sake (since I think I've asked for every version of DOTT yet).

I am shocked... shocked I say!

[theoutlaw321]

Happy Birthday DBG! And many more!

[soundsofsilver]

Would you possibly be telling us when the new DOTT will be set?

[D16NJD16]

I just hayte this god damn thread because Im always like "What, already??" when I see it say Death Of The Territories Released. Somebody make a new one please.

[BYU 14]

I just hayte this god damn thread because Im always like "What, already??" when I see it say Death Of The Territories Released. Somebody make a new one please.

I am with you :)

I am so attached to this mod I won't even buy the new game until it is released. I just can't play TEW any other way.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Would you possibly be telling us when the new DOTT will be set?

As it currently stands, the initial data will feature either an April or May of '83 starting date. There are several valid reasons for this, but one of the bigger ones is that I like the irony that while the current mods tend to reflect whenever the game is released - and Adam's CV jumps ahead at regular intervals with each game release, D.O.T.T. is stuck in the same period.

Fits the whole nostalgia thing. :)

Testing will reveal if differing start date releases will be possible. If the game handles the territorial era better (as it appears it might), I would love to eventually release data sets with differing start dates:

* Mid 1970s would be fun - just to have a rookie Flair, Steamboat, etc. - and being able to book The Sheik while still in his heyday...
* Mid 1981 would be great, as there was so much interesting stuff going around at that time...
* December 1982 for the start of the Freebirds vs. Von Erich War...
* February 1984 for Hulkamania and the entire build-up towards the first Wrestlemania.

But we'll see how everything goes before committing to such an undertaking.

[KColl]

Would love to play the mid 70s and 81 mods. They sound exciting.

And anything coming from you is quality.