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01-29-2007, 11:46 AM
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TEW07: Death of the Territories


Author: Eric Baker


Location File by: Dolfanar


Scenario Graphics:

Johnny Fenoli - backgrounds
Eric Baker - profile pictures


With testing contributions by the Cyclops Lair:

Dolfanar, Tsu-Mirren, DownNDirty, Sartagis,
The Ismailite, Jaded, MattQ, and Rick Arnold

And DJtheFunkChris for his tireless hyping of this data



Adapted from:

* Wrestling Spirit 2: DOTT v1.75 -Author: Eric Baker
* TEW05: DOTT - Author: Eric Baker, with Japanese data by Ryan Russell
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** The files can now be found at http://www.poetry-addicts.com/DOTT/ -- thanks to Troy Perry for setting up the page for me.



Current Release: v1.35

Required Files:
TEWDOTT.exe

Updated Files:
v1.35 (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/DOTT_v135.rar)
Latest Profile Cuts (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/People_2_19.rar)
Generic Pics (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/People_v135.rar)

Optional Files:
Screens and New Title Music (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/TEW07_DOTT_Screens_ThemeMusic.rar)

*Screens go into your GDS/Screens folder (overwrite)
*Music goes into your GDS/Music folder (overwrite)


*It is Highly Recommended that you use the Optional Files, as it greatly enhances the scenario. I have backed up all old files and attached 'OLD' to the ends of those files names. If you wish to revert back, simply rename the files in your 'Screens' and 'Music' folders.


Note: Please read the TEW07: DOTT Microsoft Word Document, located in the D.O.T.T. folder. There you will find scenario background information, a history of professional wrestling from 1982-85, a list of alter egos for wrestlers, and full scenario credits.

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Scenario Details:


Starting Date: April 1983

Workers: 1,230
New Workers: 192
Locations: 951
Promotion Pacts: 113
Gimmicks: 347
Angles: 1250
Storylines: 124
Tag Teams: 478
Stables: 48
Worker Relationships: 1000
Titles: 119
Title Lineages: 2,437
Events: 228
TV Shows: 29
TV Slots: 24
TV Networks: 61
Other TV Shows: 52
PPV Carriers: 13
Dojos: 16
Dojo Graduates: 95
Alter Egos: 30


Promotions: 30

U.S.

WWF (Cult)
MACW (Cult)
AWA (Cult)
GCW (Cult)
WCCW (Regional)
SWCW (Regional)
Mid-South (Regional)
Central States (Regional)
Memphis (Regional)
Florida (Regional)
Pacific Northwest (Regional)
WWC (Regional)
G.L.O.W. (Regional)
Southeastern (Small)
International Championship (Small)
Houston (Small)
Dick the Bruiser's WWA (Small)


Canada:

Maple Leaf (Regional)
Calgary (Regional)
Montreal (Regional)
Maritimes (Regional)
All Star (Small)


Japan:

All Japan (Regional)
New Japan (Regional)
All Japan Womens (Small)


Mexico:

CMLL (Cult)
UWA (Regional)


U.K.:

Joint (Cult)
All Star (Regional)


Europe:

CWA(EUR) (Regional)

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Storylines:

By: Eric Baker


$5,000 Body Slam Challenge (A Manager and his client pose a $5,000 Body Slam Challenge, which a hero takes up. Manager steals money, setting up a three match series. Hero wins the Blow Off match.)

A Victory Cigar (In honor of the great angle which saw Boris Malenko's cigar being used by Masked Superstar to almost put the Mighty Igor's eye out)

Andre v. Studd, Part One (In homage to the seemingly never-ending war between Big John Studd (along w. his manager) and Andre the Giant. Within the frame is a foreshadowing of an eventual Andre turn)

Arm Wrestling Challenge (A Villain challenges a Hero to a series of arm wrestling contests. The last and deciding contest ends when the Villain attacks. This, of course, leads to a blow off match, which the Hero wins)

Attack of the Living G.I. Joe (Three Parts) (WWF, circa 1984: Brute villain Sgt. Slaughter turns hero when he bumps across the Iron Sheik during a television taping. The resulting war was a huge success for not only Slaughter and the Sheik - but also the WWF, who used the Slaughter v. Sheik war as the 'B' Main Event during the early Hulkamania years)

Bad to the Bone (WCCW, 1984-85: In homage to the Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams war against the Von Erichs, it is a typical storyline centering on a tag team feud with a 'family member', in this case Mike Von Erich, serving as punching bag inspiration for the final blow off match. The swerve is that a mystery team has been attacking Mike all along)

Bald to the Bone (WCCW, 1984: In a two month long build-up to a Stipulated Hair vs Hair match, Gino Hernandez and Chris Adams terrorize the hair of the World Class roster, until losing their own against Kevin & Kerry Von Erich. **Spin off of the 'I am YOUR Champion!, Part Three storyline**)

Battle of the Valets (Three Parts) (World Class - 1983: Jimmy Garvin and Sunshine have their hands full with David and Kevin Von Erich, losing a 'Valet for a Day match' to David - yet beating Kevin for WCCW American Title... Jimmy Garvin beats Chris Adams for the TV title and rewards Sunshine with a valet of her own, Precious. Precious worms into Garvin's favor, resulting in the firing of Sunshine. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... Sunshine's thirst for revenge ends with her teaming up with Chris Adams to battle Jimmy Garvin and his new valet, Precious, in an epic war)

Billy and Pedro (Superstar Billy Graham returns to the WWF and immediately makes his presence known by engaging in an Arm Wrestling contest w/Tony Atlas. Billy then challenges WWF Intercontinental Champion Pedro Morales to a series of matches, which Pedro wins)

Birth of the Masked Superstar (In his continuing feud against Wahoo McDaniel over busted dentures, Boris Malenko secures a Loser Leaves Match between Wahoo and Bolo Mongol, played by Bill Eadie. Bolo loses. The next night, Eadie transforms into the Masked Superstar)

Charlie Brown from Outta Town (Two Parts) (Mid-Atlantic, 1983: Jimmy Valiant, one of the most popular men in the area, became entrenched in a bitter war against The Great Kabuki and Gary Hart. After several twists, Valiant would lose a Loser Leaves Town Match...)

Dynamic Duo Split Up (Two Parts) (Tully Blanchard & Gino Hernandez have troubles brewing w/in their relationship. After winning the Southwest Tag Team Championship v. The Grapplers, Blanchard destroys Hernandez with his newly won belt. This leads to a pitifully short feud)

Dynamic Duo Split Up, Redeux (WCCW, 1985: Blaming his partner for a big loss at the hands of the Von Erichs, Gino Hernandez turns against Chris Adams during a match, splashing Freebird Hair Remover in Adam's eyes. A feud was meant as result, but Hernandez would die from a drug overdose **Spin Off of 'The Saga of the Cosmic Cowboys' storyline**)

Everybody's got a Price (GCW - During what some say is the last great run of the promotion, Larry Zybszko and Paul Orndorff feud over the National Heavyweight Title. Frustration leads to Larry Z offering a hired gun $25,000 to take title and sell it to him)

Evil Russians (Two workers, both nationalists of a 'foreign land', make it their new cause to inflict upon another worker as much grief as possible. Storyline allows break to add more workers)

Feud Blow Off, Cage Match (Two workers feud their way to a Cage match)

Feud Blow Off, Indian Strap (A feud specialty of Chief Wahoo McDaniel: Two workers feud their way to an Indian Strap match)

Flair for the Gold (Three Parts) (After losing the NWA World Title to Harley Race, Ric Flair has a bounty placed on his head by Race - leading straight into Flair's reclaiming the title at the Starrcade '83 cage match)

Formation of the Horsemen (Two Parts) (Centering on the formation of the Four Horsemen stable (Ric Flair, Tully Blanchard, Ole & Arn Anderson w/ James J. Dillon) through a multi-pronged war with Dusty Rhodes and Magnum T.A.
Phase One, in which Doris gets her oats...)

Free Agent Bidding ver1 (A worker fires his/her manager and declares themself a Free Agent. Three Managers then get into a bidding war over the worker, with the third winning out)

Free Agent Bidding ver2 (A worker declares themself a Free Agent. Three Managers then get into a bidding war over the worker)

Grumpy Mentor (Two Parts) (Mid-South wrestling, late 1983: Mr. Wrestling II takes on Magnum T.A. as his protege. The relationship sours and the saintly Wrestling II eventually turns on Magnum)

Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow (Two workers feud their way to a Hair v. Hair match, which the antagonist loses)

Heel Saves Brother (A brutal heel turns his back on his evil ways (and his stable) after saving his previously unknown brother from attack. In doing so, his former manager and cronies attack him. Re: Buzz Sawyer v. Legion of Doom)

Hotrod and the Superfly (In homage to one of the greatest 'Talk Show segments that led to a feud' storylines in the history of the business. The actual feud was woefully short due to Snuka's drug rehabilitation, kayfabed with the story that Piper broke Snuka's neck)

Hotstuff International (Missy Hyatt really got her biggest break in this, a storyline originating from Memphis. Eddie Gilbert and Jerry Lawler feud to the death. In the process, Gilbert and Hyatt con a young buck into attacking Lawler with a date opportunity w/Missy)

Howdy Doody to Hulkamania (Two Parts) (In an effort to get the belt off Bob Backlund, Freddie Blassie challenges Backlund to match the Iron Sheik in a Persian Club Workout Routine. Bob accepts, gets attacked and injured, then loses the strap to Sheik. This opens the door for Hogan coming in and winning it)

Hypodermic Madness (It what was considered a tasteless angle in Angelo Poffo's ICW promotion, 2 workers attack another and inject him with a 'controlled substance'. Inevitable madness soon follows)

I am YOUR Champion!, Parts One, Two, and Three (WCCW, 1984: Gino Hernandez makes a huge splash in World Class, winning that promotions top two singles titles. Ego drives the Handsome Halfbreed to take a new partner (Chris Adams), and then pushes towards further promotion dominance in tag team and 6 Man tag team action. **Spin Off of 'Turning of Chris Adams' storyline**... In Gino Hernandez' continued quest to rule World Class, The Dynamic Duo and a partner (was Jake Roberts) beat the Von Erichs for the 6 Man Title. Chris Adams' feud with Kevin Von Erich results in an I Quit loss; resulting in Adams firing Gary Hart. **Spin Off of 'I am YOUR Champion!, Part One' storyline** ... Gino Hernandez' dominance of the World Class promotion begins to wane, as the 6 Man title is reclaimed by the Von Erichs. Still, the Handsome Halfbreed has the last laugh - he and Chris Adams destroy Kevin Von Erich's brand new Lincoln Continental, then win a bout where the Duo gets to pick the rematch stipulation: The Duo pick 'Losers get Shaved' **Spin off of the 'I am YOUR Champion!, Part Two' storyline**)

I Broke Wahoo's Leg (Re: Greg Valentine v. Wahoo McDaniel, 1977... Valentine and Wahoo feud over the Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title, leading to a televised bout between the two. During the match, Valentine locks on a 'leg suplex' and breaks Wahoo's leg)

I'm From Hollywood! (While the angle was a borderline failure at the time - at least to the actual fans in Memphis, the Andy Kaufman v. Jerry Lawler feud has grown to epic proportions. And rightfully so: Kaufman was a Quasi-Deity)

Magnum T.A. vs. Tully Blanchard (Tully Blanchard's ongoing quest to destroy Magnum T.A. leads to an infamous I Quit match *Spin off of the 'Formation of the Horsemen, Part 2' storyline)

Man with the Cast Iron Stomach (In homage to the Pepper Gomez v. Ray Stevens feud in San Francisco: A hero proves his cast iron stomach by allowing wrestlers to leap upon his abdomen from a ladder. A heel tries and fails. When trying again, the heel leaps off onto hero's throat)

Mask vs. Mask (A Masked Man arrives in an area and puts out an open challenge to anyone that can beat him by pinfall or submission. If they do, the masked man will unmask AND pay the opponent $5000. A Masked Hero accepts, and a war takes place...)

Mask vs. Mask - ver2 ([Stripped down version of ver1])

Masked Man Challenge ver1 (A masked man makes a challenge where if he loses 2 straight falls in a 2 out of 3 falls match, he will unmask. In homage to Don Jardine; AKA The Spoiler, though it is alignment generic)

Masked Man Challenge ver2 (A masked man and his/her manager makes a challenge where if he loses 2 straight falls in a 2 out of 3 falls match, he will unmask. In homage to Don Jardine; AKA The Spoiler, though it is alignment generic)

Midnights v. Rock 'n' Rollers (Mid South, 1984: The Midnight Express v. Rock and Roll Express feud takes off after the Midnights celebrate a title victory and the Rock and Rollers crash their party. An epic storyline that starts with Cornette's feud with Bill Watts)

Persian Club Challenge (In an effort to build up the Iron Sheik wherever he went, promotions would often run this angle where Sheik openly challenges anyone to match him in a Persian Club Workout Routine. Inevitably, this leads to a Hero show down)

Persian Club Challenge ver2 ([Stripped down version of the original; three participants])

Pose Down Challenge (Typical story between bruisers who want to show off their oiled muscles for the girly men in the audience.
I'm looking at YOU, McMahon!)

Revenge of the Little People (A puppet master pays a group of midgets (or jobbers!) to wreck havoc on the promotion in which they work)

Rock and Wrestling (Two Parts) (Roddy Piper, Captain Lou Albano, Cyndi Lauper, Hulk Hogan, Mr. T, Bob Orton, Paul Orndorff, and a delightful midget getting a haircut... Whew)

Sgt. Slaughter's Summer Camp (In homage to the storyline in the Carolinas where Sgt. Slaughter offers to make champions out of anyone willing to suffer the training. Don Kernodle and Jim Nelson accept, and Slaughter lives up to his promise)

Snidley Whiplash Returns! - Parts One and Two (In homage to the many angles run of the nature: A cad villain uses the deed of a bumpkins family farm as means to control the bumpkin for evil doings. A local hero eventually frees the poor sod from the servitude)

Stable Construction (In homage to Paul Ellering's War against Ole Anderson, GCW '83 - A manager arrives in an area and sets about forming a dominating stable whose sole purpose is to eliminate a thorn in the manager's side)

Steamboat vs. Flair (MACW, 1977: The beginnings of a feud that would enthrall an entire industry. A rookie Steamboat catches grief from Ric Flair and Greg Valentine, eventually convincing Flair to put up his Mid Atlantic title. Steamboat surprises the world with a convincing win, an act that causes Flair to swear eternal revenge for the insult)

Superstar's Quest for the Gold (The Grand Wizard comes up with a scheme to get his client, The Masked Superstar, into the ring with WWF champion Bob Backlund. Superstar attacks one of Bob's proteges to inspire an illogical rage in the champ. Bob accepts challenge... hijinks ensue)

Tag Team Mega Push ver1 (After winning a tournament for vacant belts, a tag team receive a mega push into the main event of a roster. There, the team meet a Dream Team... which the brute tag team destroys. RE: Road Warriors, GCW - May 1983)

Tag Team Mega Push ver2 (A tag team receive a mega push into the upper card of a roster while being guided by a manager)

Ted Dibiase vs. Mr. R (After beating Tommy Rich in a Loser Leaves Town match, a mysterious stranger appears - Mr. R. After an excellent swerve which sees Brad Armstrong donning the mask, Dibiase loses the National Heavyweight title)

The Apt Pupil (In homage to the many 'protege turns on beloved local hero' bits)

The Badstreet Chronicles (Two Parts) (In homage to the many exploits of the Fabulous Freebirds: In this episode, a 3 man group (1-3) cause a mischief that forces a Hero to miss a scheduled tag team bout ... and ... Mid-South, 1980: After the formation of the Freebirds as we know it, a feud breaks out between the 'Birds and Junkyard Dog & Buck Robley. After a tag team match, Michael Hayes blinds the Dog with Hair Cream, leading to a Dog Collar blow off)

The Ballad of Stagger Lee (Mid-South, 1982: After a Loser Leave's Town match against Ted Dibiase & Matt Borne, the Junkyard Dog departs... to the arrival of a masked man, Stagger Lee. Lee, there to avenge the kid (JYD) who Lee would steal lunch money from, vows to make good. *Spin off of 'The Rat Pack v. Junkyard Dog' storyline*)

The Best of Seven Series (In homage to the series of matches between Magnum T.A. and Nikita Koloff during the Great American Bash '86. The villain wins the series, despite a comeback by the plucky hero. This is Allen's last major story before his career-ending accident)

The Birth of Hillbilly Jim (WWF - circa 1985, After being picked on by bully talk show host Roddy Piper, a fan (Hillbilly Jim) turns to Hulk Hogan, begging the Hulkster to train him. Roddy Piper is not amused, brother)

The Bounty Hunters (After a bounty is called upon a wrestler, a series of bounty hunters are brought in to 'do the job'. The third attempt seemingly succeeds in injuring the hero, resulting in a pay off)

The Canadian Bumblebee (Angelo Poffo's ICW, 1982: A chapter in the epic Ronnie Garvin vs. Randy Savage feud; Garvin causes embarrassment to the frantic Savage by unleasing a vicious Canadian Bumblebee... *requires a midget!*)

The Cobra Clutch Challenge (Typical story of the day, though in this case... Sgt. Slaughter poses an open challenge to anyone that can break his dreaded Cobra Clutch hold. After a series of losers, a Hero accepts. The Hero comes close to winning, when the Sarge attacks)

The Cobra Clutch Challenge ver2 (Typical story of the day, though in this case... Sgt. Slaughter (w. a cronie) poses an open challenge to anyone that can break his dreaded Cobra Clutch hold. After a series of losers, a Hero accepts. After being taught the secret to escaping by a turncoat Private (Role 6, Cronie), the Hero comes close to winning when the villains attack)

The Devil and the Dream (Two Parts) (Kevin Sullivan announces his alligence to the dark ones, collects an army, then focuses on Dusty Rhodes)

The Dirtiest Player (A Villain champion continually uses underhanded tactics to save his title against a rampaging hero. The series sees a bizarre finish during a match that results in the title being held up. The two face off for the coveted belt... you decide winner)

The Final Conflict, Parts One and Two (MACW, 1983: What begins as a bloodfeud between Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle vs. Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood - one that leads to a 'Losers Must Never Team Together' cage match, eventually will morph into a heel turned Brisco Brothers vs. the popular Steamboat & Youngblood)

The Freebirds v. Von Erichs (Two Parts) (The beginnings of a war that would enthrall a nation: The Von Erichs v. Freebirds)

The Gladiator Unmasked '76 (In a well thought out angle from Florida (1976), Bob Roop gets 'injured' and demands a move get banned. A masked worker appears - Roop under a mask - he gets unmasked - denounces everyone)

The Hero's Quest (After witnessing a friend fall to the hands of a group of villains, a hero makes it his goal to exact revenge on the brutes)

The Hero's Revenge (After seemingly being injured by two villains, a hero makes his just (and quick) revenge known)

The McMahon Formula ver1 (A favorite formula of Vince McMahon Sr. - a Champion (protag) gets into a three match series with a Challenger (antag), losing or drawing the first two on DQ-types, only to rebound in the Final Match to win clean)

The McMahon Formula ver2 (A favorite formula of Vince McMahon Sr. - a Champion (protag) gets into a three match series with a Challenger (antag) and their manager, losing or drawing the first two on DQ-types, only to rebound in the Final Match to win clean)

The Miss Macho Man Contest (In a highly entertaining angle run in Angelo Poffo's ICW, Randy Savage announces that a contest will be taking place to determine a new valet, 'Miss Macho Man'. As was often the case, Ron Garvin spoils the fun - but an eventual winner would be named: Brenda Britton)

The Rat Pack Get Poisoned (Mid-South, 1983: The Rat Pack, a stable consisting of Ted Dibiase, Jim Duggan, and Matt Borne splinters when Dibiase aligns with the Anti-American Skandar Akbar. Duggan, not able to stomach the betrayal, turns hero in defense of his country)

The Rat Pack vs. Junkyard Dog (Mid-South, 1982: A feud erupts between recently turned villain Ted Dibiase and his cohorts in the Rat Patrol: Matt Borne and Jim Duggan versus The Junkyard Dog. Leads to Duggan donning a gorilla suit to help JYD lose a Loser Leaves Town Match)

The REAL Champion (MACW, 1983-84: Shortly after Starrcade '83, Dick Slater creates a replica of the NWA World Title and claims he is the true champion - much to the chagrin of Ric Flair)

The Rich vs. Sawyer War (Three Parts) (GCW: One of the last epic feuds of the territorial days, Buzz Sawyer v. Tommy Rich lasted well over 2 years. Typical of the era, it's final blow-off match, the infamous Last Battle for Atlanta in a Cage, was never filmed)

The Saga of the Cosmic Cowboys (WCCW, 1984-85: The Dynamic Duo thwart the Von Erichs by wearing masks to avoid embarrasment after losing the 'Loser Gets Shaved' match. In a Cage match for the held up American Tag Team Titles; Duo wins, but get unmasked. As champs, the Duo block the Von Erichs from challenging, resulting in a masked tag team getting a match: The Cosmic Cowboys. **Spin Off of the 'Bald to the Bone' storyline**)

The Saga of the Midnight Rider (Florida: After Losing a Loser Leaves Town match, a mysterious friend of the loser appears on the scene, vowing revenge. Everyone in the world knows who it is, but the race to unmask the Rider still takes place)

The Saga of the Saddle (Two Parts) (CWF: A gloriously goofy storyline involving Ron Bass turning against - and then stealing Dusty Rhodes' prized saddle)

The Samoans Go for the Gold (The Wild Samoans target, then defeat the Strongbows for the WWF Tag Team Title. Lou Albano pulls the strings, despite not having an active role)

The Sawyers vs. The Road Warriors (After saving Brett Wayne and revealing they are brothers, Buzz and Brett Wayne Sawyer battle the Road Warriors. The actual series would see the Sawyers winning the National Tag Titles every night on an Ohio tour - not officially credited)

The Turning of Butch Reed (In an attempt to gain a new African-American lead face, Bill Watts turned 'Hacksaw' Butch Reed from brute bad ass to face bad ass in the Fall of 1984. Skandar Akbar tries to buy Reed's services, using Reed's partner as prodding - but the plan backfires. Nice sequel to the 'Rat Pack Gets Poisoned' storyline)

The Turning of King Kong Bundy (Needing a new good guy to face the terror of the Legion of Doom Stable, King Kong Bundy (Protaganist) arrives in the Georgia area as a monster-in-training. Paul Ellering, thinking he is off camera, insults Bundy - forcing a confrontation)

The Turning of Chris Adams (WCCW, 1984: As means of furthering his career, Chris Adams takes on the services of Gart Hart as his 'advisor'. After an argument between Kevin Von Erich and Adams over the Gentleman's berating his valet after a loss, Adams superkicks Von Erich. This leads to a 1 v 1. Von Erich wins, claiming that all will be forgotten if Adams fires Hart. Adams responds with a chair across the head, sealing the turn)

The Villain's Revenge (After a hero has humiliated them, a villain sets about a diabolical plan to utterly destroy the hero and his friends)

Tournament for Vacant Tag Team (A standard 4 team tournament for a vacant tag team title spread out over a period of 6 cards)

Turning of the Superfly (Two Parts) (After a brutal 3 match series with Bob Backlund is for naught, Lou Albano blames the losses on Snuka. Buddy Rogers, good guy manager, gains proof that Albano was ripping off Snuka. Once questioned, Albano has Ray Stevens destroy Superfly ... and ... After Jimmy Snuka turns face and dumps him in favor of Buddy Rogers, Lou Albano swears revenge in the form of The Magnificent Muraco. This leads to the infamous Cage Match where Snuka loses, yet nails Muraco with the Superfly Leap off the cage)

Worker Suspended (As a means of covering an injury, or outside tour: A worker no-shows an important bout and is suspended by an authority figure)
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As always, I hope you enjoy. And Power to the Imagination!

Brandon9967
01-29-2007, 11:49 AM
Let me be one of the first to say a HUGE thank you for all of your effort and time that has went into this. I am downloading it now and can say this: I am glad I don't have anything to do the rest of the day. :D

ACCBiggz
01-29-2007, 11:49 AM
And the masses rejoice!

Rocland
01-29-2007, 11:53 AM
OH...MY...GOD! Thank you D.Boon & company.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-29-2007, 11:54 AM
Keep in mind that the Locations file is not complete at release.

And I cannot even play this due to a legit windows machine malfunction. So when you want to complain about something, try to keep that in mind.
As I have in past scenarios, I will update this.


Thanks to everyone that has supported this project since TEW04 when it was stricken with the oh-so original title 'TEW04: 1983'. Without the inspiration, I would have quit this hobby long ago.
Thanks to you, three years, five games, and one shot to hell computer later, I'm still trying to keep the kayfabe spirit alive.


Enjoy.

Gongsun Zan
01-29-2007, 11:54 AM
I want to have your babies.

Cold Cobra
01-29-2007, 11:54 AM
What luck, I sit down at my computer, my plans to go out cancelled at the last minute, thinking "What shall I do to pass the time now?" I click on here and BOOM!

Thank you very much, now I can relive the good old days of the 80's (even if I did get into it during the later half...).

ACCBiggz
01-29-2007, 11:57 AM
I want to have your babies.

I know a few people who will be upset by this Zan...

deadman2006
01-29-2007, 11:59 AM
YES! Thanks a lot to everyone who helped work on it.

Ransik
01-29-2007, 12:00 PM
You have given life to my 2 days off from work. :)

beatzNrhymez
01-29-2007, 12:02 PM
thanks again for all your hard work.

you are the man

Jasx12
01-29-2007, 12:03 PM
Now I don't even want to go back to school... Maybe I'll email my professors ;)

All i can say is a big "THANK YOU" goes out from me, and many others here.

Sensai of Mattitude
01-29-2007, 12:08 PM
Super markout. Cheers for all the hard work, D. Boon, I really appreciate it.

Now for the download... :)

CountZero
01-29-2007, 12:10 PM
Magnificent! I'd been holding off on getting into TEW2007 until I found a good scenario... and now one of the scenarios I've been looking forward to with baited breath has been completed. Much thanks.

Mattyc
01-29-2007, 12:29 PM
Well that is my plans for the evening all taken care of as well as no doubt many plans for many evenings to come.

Thank you to D. Boon's Ghost and the team.

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 12:30 PM
And DJtheFunkChris for his tireless hyping of this data

Thanks for letting me sit in on the work, although I couldn't really contribute, lol.

Now that this is out, I can say what I really want too...

These guys in the Lair, on the team, etc... Were totally awesome. If someone ran accross a problem, other's were there to support and help through it. There were many, many, many pages of nothing but efficient, objective, non-ego, very appreciative, and the willingness to try anything to make things come out for the better. I was very impressed, and although I am quick to pat someone on the back for a job well done, I have never been easily impressed. Meaning, I like to make people proud and fearless in doing things I believe they can do.. However, I figure you have it in you already, so I'm not impressed when you show what I already feel you could do (maybe just needed someone to say "Go for it", or "Good job so far, looks great!").

I didn't mean it to be tireless hype, I really am very impressed with everything about this MOD... The Substance is incredible. I'm sure everyone that plays will find out if anything, I under hyped it. Just read the info that comes with it for example. For those that have played the older scenario's, you already know what I'm talking about.. However, the MOD itself is a historical masterpiece, lol.

Oh well, sorry for "Hyping" this mod again, lol..

forlan
01-29-2007, 12:33 PM
You have given life to my 2 days off from work. :)

How dare you, get back to your "real" job of testing data for T-Zone.

On another note, i'll download and have a look, i couldnt get into DOTT for whatever reason on last TEW but on the flipside i loved it and it made Wrespi 1 Worthwhile (I didnt buy 2)

James Casey
01-29-2007, 12:58 PM
Score!

Now, if only I didn't have a dinner to go to this evening :rolleyes:

Can't wait to get playing this.

It bears saying again: Thanks to D.boon and all his crew for their effort in putting this together. The amount of work required, particualrlyl in all the hsitorical research, is just incredible, and speaking as somoene who particularly enjoyed the WS2 incarnation enough to buy the game when I wasn't planning on doing so...

I just can't wait to play it!

soundsofsilver
01-29-2007, 01:00 PM
Maaaaaannnnnn. and to think, I won't have access to my license of TEW for almost another month!

chefboyrdz
01-29-2007, 01:29 PM
Thanks a lot for all the hard work I am really looking forward to this as I loved that last one again thanks a ton.

Schillinger
01-29-2007, 01:33 PM
I don't really post here but I feel that I have to say thank you for this, this is the only mod that I'm interested in playing.

Vardamir
01-29-2007, 01:37 PM
Let me just say this: THANK YOU!!! Your awesome work is very much appreciated. It's going to be a blast playing this! ^_^

vocalorigami
01-29-2007, 01:39 PM
maybe you could post the DOTT files seperately for those that are on dail up

Consrvtve
01-29-2007, 01:47 PM
I've always heard good things about this mod but never played it. Just the opening screen and music sold me, not to mention the loading screen. Top class work.

Fleisch
01-29-2007, 01:49 PM
Ah and just when I decided to finally buy TEW07 too! I can feel a "sickness" coming on and may have to have a few days "rest" from work...;)

Thanks D. Boon, and as with your previous work I'm sure this'll keep me awake until the early hours of the morning!

Carter
01-29-2007, 01:49 PM
Thank you pal...wait...hang on...I can't see the download...Am i being a div?

Ping von Erich
01-29-2007, 01:53 PM
I just pooped a little bit..

WOOHOO!

-laz-
01-29-2007, 01:53 PM
thank you very much

SasoreGatame
01-29-2007, 02:02 PM
*punches 4 babies and a goat*

THANK YOU!

foolinc
01-29-2007, 02:14 PM
I can't wait till my last class is over so I can play it.

raynefall007
01-29-2007, 02:22 PM
Thanks a bunch, D Boon. This mod should be awesome.

MethodofMayhem
01-29-2007, 02:42 PM
Thank you. Now I can re-live some old memories of the past

JohnnyInsurance
01-29-2007, 02:51 PM
Thank for this so much!!!! And on my day off to boot .... yay.

Chaoricus
01-29-2007, 03:01 PM
Well, what can I say but... HELL FREAKIN' YES!
I will be playing this all night! :)

Thank you very much. Shoine you shoes fow ya I will I will!

Fezzik
01-29-2007, 03:10 PM
Thank you for the scenario.

D16NJD16
01-29-2007, 03:28 PM
ALRRRIIGHT! Thoughts to come later..

Johnny Fenoli
01-29-2007, 03:44 PM
What would you do?

So, I started my game with good ol' World Class Championship Wrestling, my hometown promotion...


When old Fritz gave me a ring... Fritz doesnt want over the hill wrestlers, ok, fine. But then this goose stepper tells me, he doesnt want drug abusers on his roster. Well, I dont like drugs either, but what Fritz apparently doesnt know yet.... his boys are hooked on that powder, pills, and anything they can get their hands on!

I dont know how to break it to the guy. Sad really...

But here's my dilemma, when contracts come up for renewal.... These guys are going to still be on drugs, and I wont be able to resign the owner of the companies kids... What would you do?!?!

HELP!

Johnny "Selling peanuts in the Sportatorium" Fenoli

vocalorigami
01-29-2007, 04:02 PM
hi i just finished downloading DOTT and the thing that sticks out as being a bit weird is the style names. They are a bit on the tacky side and maybe for the next version they should be changed.

MikeyMayhem
01-29-2007, 04:13 PM
i'm on lunch break !
screw work i quit

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 04:18 PM
hi i just finished downloading DOTT and the thing that sticks out as being a bit weird is the style names. They are a bit on the tacky side and maybe for the next version they should be changed.

Most all of them have something to do with the owner or booker. Not that there was a style for someone to grab from outside of the ordinary "Sports Entertainment", "Traditional", etc. Since most of this has been changed to fit the style of the owner/booker's of the promotion, the name kind of reflects that.. YOu know WWF is Vinnie Mac's Way, etc.

I'm sure if some people wanted to come up with some better product title's, maybe people could choose and change what they like, etc..

But really, this is a very small thing to what might need working on. For example, for everyname that gets changed, it could mean another new worker is left out for the updated release, or it could mean an extra couple of days before a new release, because they just want to make sure people are happy with the product names, lol. No matter what though, that's something that will be of personal taste, Just because I Like them (and I do), doesn't mean you will (as you think they are too tacky). Someone else might like half and hate the other half. So really no way to make everyone happy with something like that.

Pluss, I'm sure you and anyone else would want most of the time dedicated to possible fix's and extra data (as in new worker's/promotions, etc.).

Vladamire Dracos
01-29-2007, 04:31 PM
Found some minor bio errors. G.L.O.W. babe Tara's bio end abruptly and repeats itself and Don Running Bear's Pacific Northwest roster entry bio is empty.

Awesome work though D. Boon! I've been running a watcher game to see what happens and saw the WWF have a Hogan/Andre vs. Ventura/Studd match. I would've loved to have seen that in real life. :)

Jonfun
01-29-2007, 04:38 PM
How do you install this. I got it to work but I don't get backgrounds or music.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-29-2007, 04:49 PM
hi i just finished downloading DOTT and the thing that sticks out as being a bit weird is the style names. They are a bit on the tacky side and maybe for the next version they should be changed.

Of course they are tacky. Pro wrestling as a whole is tacky. :)

I injected some humor into the data to amuse myself and hopefully anyone else. It's my opinion that if you take such things seriously, you may as well put on your Klingon uniform and recite War Poems, or sing songs in elvish while dancing a Tolkien jig; harcore fandom just isn't for me.

So if you don't find humor in Verne's Pet Dinosaur, change it. I do hope it doesn't ruin whatever fun you get out of it.


And thanks to everyone for the overwhelming response; it is very much appreciated.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-29-2007, 04:51 PM
How do you install this. I got it to work but I don't get backgrounds or music.

Backgrounds and the rockin' music are a separate download. If you want them, see the first post again. The 'Optional Files' are linked to the file.

Jonfun
01-29-2007, 04:52 PM
Ah ok Cheers.

Roberto
01-29-2007, 04:53 PM
This is so, so good.

I laughed out loud when I saw the choices for pre-defined user characters. Won't spoil things for those yet to download, but two of them brought back so many memories of the era.

And as I go through the UK data I see lots of little things, like (a very young) Johnny Smith working as Johnny Savage. Only people with deep research and a true love for the era would have bothered.

So kudos and respect to all.

A few small suggestions.

The UK's Alan Kilby is given no language skills. This is right in game terms, for he was deaf and dumb. But in the corresponding mod for TEW05 this meant he always became unhappy with the backstage atmosphere (being unable to communicate) and wanted to leave. Might it be better to give him English and zero per cent in mic skills?

You might consider reducing the mic skills of The Original Kendo Nagasaki to zero too, for he never ever spoke.

And perhaps Alex Wright should be there, either as a future worker or as a very young current worker - he was certainly active in the UK (as Bull Blitzer with a shaven head and a goose-step) in 1986.

-laz-
01-29-2007, 04:55 PM
Hey thanx again for this great mod any chance i can get the bg that you used for the belts thanx in advance

Johnny Fenoli
01-29-2007, 05:04 PM
What would you do?

So, I started my game with good ol' World Class Championship Wrestling, my hometown promotion...


When old Fritz gave me a ring... Fritz doesnt want over the hill wrestlers, ok, fine. But then this goose stepper tells me, he doesnt want drug abusers on his roster. Well, I dont like drugs either, but what Fritz apparently doesnt know yet.... his boys are hooked on that powder, pills, and anything they can get their hands on!

I dont know how to break it to the guy. Sad really...

But here's my dilemma, when contracts come up for renewal.... These guys are going to still be on drugs, and I wont be able to resign the owner of the companies kids... What would you do?!?!

HELP!

Johnny "Selling peanuts in the Sportatorium" Fenoli


D. Boon? DJ? Yes I'm quoting myself, due to this being overlooked.........

James Casey
01-29-2007, 05:11 PM
Are Fritz's sons not on lifetime contracts?

D16NJD16
01-29-2007, 05:29 PM
Yeah give them lifetime contracts if your determined to solve that problem Fenoli.

Johnny Fenoli
01-29-2007, 05:32 PM
Yeah give them lifetime contracts if your determined to solve that problem Fenoli.

yeah, I guess that's the best way to do it huh? That way they can still have the affects of the drug abuse. Only thing is no Texas Tornado for the WWF.... :(

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 05:47 PM
D. Boon? DJ? Yes I'm quoting myself, due to this being overlooked.........

I don't know if I'm understanding you correctly, I see your dilemma, but I'm not sure you will have that big of a problem unless you've already had it, meaning... Has there contracts already come up, and have you already had a problem with signing them? I don't know if the relationship's will help or not. Now for what I do know.

What I do know is that Fritz is supposed to be very religious, or at least he is in the data that way. That would make the reason for his not wanting drugs, etc. in his promotion. However, that being said, the only two people on drugs in his promotion (or have drug problems) are Kevin and kerry Von Erich... Which kind of makes his whole "NO DRUGS" them ridiculous, since it's only his family.

Now, there is Buddy Roberts and Terry Gordy, who both have drink problems as well, that might present you a problem, but overall 4 people is all I see with any problems right now.

The lifetime contract might be a good idea (If the boys stuck around for sure). Up to you really, but keep this going, it was just overlooked, I'm sure D. Boone would find this interesting. "What a Dillemma?!?" so to speak, lol.

Really though, I think there might be a possibility that he will overlook his kids, since they are blood relatives.. I don't know, and have nothing to base this on, but I would think that the Blood Relationship might overlook bussiness decisions. That's the only reason I don't really want you to make them lifetime contracts.. I would be interested to see what happens when the stuff hits the fan.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-29-2007, 05:53 PM
It's the charm (and bane) of the promotion, Johnny. WCCW is meant to be a promotion of 'free spirits' with a hard-nosed owner oblivious to his own roster.

Or maybe in your case Fritz does know what's going on and is making a statement: 'to hell with my ungrateful kids'.

Look at the bright side: At least you'll have Mike and David! :)

As you alluded to, if you tie Kerry down with a lifetime deal, that's it for him. He'll never get stolen from you - which always makes for nice inspiration to destroy the offending promotion.

And as Chris mentioned, you won't know for sure that the Blood relationship wont overrule a contract resigning until you reach that point. I would think it should.

Johnny Fenoli
01-29-2007, 05:57 PM
I don't know if I'm understanding you correctly, I see your dilemma, but I'm not sure you will have that big of a problem unless you've already had it, meaning... Has there contracts already come up, and have you already had a problem with signing them? I don't know if the relationship's will help or not. Now for what I do know.

What I do know is that Fritz is supposed to be very religious, or at least he is in the data that way. That would make the reason for his not wanting drugs, etc. in his promotion. However, that being said, the only two people on drugs in his promotion (or have drug problems) are Kevin and kerry Von Erich... Which kind of makes his whole "NO DRUGS" them ridiculous, since it's only his family.

Now, there is Buddy Roberts and Terry Gordy, who both have drink problems as well, that might present you a problem, but overall 4 people is all I see with any problems right now.

The lifetime contract might be a good idea (If the boys stuck around for sure). Up to you really, but keep this going, it was just overlooked, I'm sure D. Boone would find this interesting. "What a Dillemma?!?" so to speak, lol.

Really though, I think there might be a possibility that he will overlook his kids, since they are blood relatives.. I don't know, and have nothing to base this on, but I would think that the Blood Relationship might overlook bussiness decisions. That's the only reason I don't really want you to make them lifetime contracts.. I would be interested to see what happens when the stuff hits the fan.

Intresting for you.... But hell for me... If I loose 2 Von Erichs for drugs, and 2 Freebirds for alchol, maybe leading to drugs... then WCCW is going to be in for a hell of a fight! :mad: Time to start building the stars of the future, hence the reason 17 year old La Parka was just signed! :D

I'm loving this so far, havent played TEW for more than a couple shows till the release of DOTT. So far we've sold out the Sportatorium twice in back to back weeks.

Hope everyone is enjoying my contribution of Screens and Music. Please post comments.

Wish me luck!

Johnny "Badstreet USA's Bookerman" Fenoli

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 06:02 PM
Well you got my vote on the screens early on, and I feel I was correct in my opinion:-)

I thought they captured the time period excellently (is that a word, if not it should be, lol).

As for your problem, well, it's totally up to you, lol. I am sympathetic, but I really do want to know the answer to that one, lol.

jbergey_2005
01-29-2007, 06:02 PM
Thank you so much Boon and everyone involved in this release. This mod is so much fun. Just a real quick question, The WWE is set up for 8 min minor, 12 min med/normal and 20 min ME matches, if I remember correctly duing the early to late 80s matches were very short in the WWF. Plus of Superstars Graham stamina is the same in TEW05 he cant even compete in an 8 min match. Thanks again!

tommytomlin
01-29-2007, 06:08 PM
This is so hot. Thanks Boon and the team!

I'm going to book Ric Flair vs TJ Hooker.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-29-2007, 06:35 PM
Thank you so much Boon and everyone involved in this release. This mod is so much fun. Just a real quick question, The WWE is set up for 8 min minor, 12 min med/normal and 20 min ME matches, if I remember correctly duing the early to late 80s matches were very short in the WWF. Plus of Superstars Graham stamina is the same in TEW05 he cant even compete in an 8 min match. Thanks again!

You are very welcome. :)

My thinking on the match lengths is that I looked at the champ in question; Backlund is on an entirely different level than Graham. Up until this point, there were only two WWF champs that I can think of that weren't capable of thirty-something minute matches - Superstar and Stasiak.

I can certainly lower the ranges, though. I'm not tied to the decision either way and can see your logic; especially when you consider Hogan is coming over the horizon.

And I beg to disagree on Graham - He certainly can compete in 10 minute matches. It's just that all of them stink. :)
Seriously, I'm a big fan of the Superstar. But by '83, he was done.

KevBone
01-29-2007, 06:44 PM
Thank God this has been released. I'm sick and tired of Forlan taking his good ol' damn time with T-Zone. Now with a real world mod out, I can finally give TEW 07 a shot!

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 06:53 PM
Thank God this has been released. I'm sick and tired of Forlan taking his good ol' damn time with T-Zone. Now with a real world mod out, I can finally give TEW 07 a shot!

This isn't a bashing the other guys Mod before it's released thread. They are working dillegently over there at T-Zone headquarter's to bring you the best up to date modern data they can. Everyone is awaiting their MOD, and they know it, and that added pressure can hurt progress as well.

They have been able to get quite a bit of insight, and insight that other's in the community will be able to utilize with their own mods. The fastest way they will get a release is by having positive support from the community:-)

However, during the wait, this is a great opportunity to give the DOTT Mod a good look. It's very impressive, and I think you will surely like it:-)

PS: I've been guilty of jumping the gun at T-Zone as well, alot of us have. I in no way am trying to sound like a lecture, just offering my two cents worth of what I believe is best for everyone.

ACCBiggz
01-29-2007, 07:02 PM
This isn't a bashing the other guys Mod before it's released thread. They are working dillegently over there at T-Zone headquarter's to bring you the best up to date modern data they can. Everyone is awaiting their MOD, and they know it, and that added pressure can hurt progress as well.

They have been able to get quite a bit of insight, and insight that other's in the community will be able to utilize with their own mods. The fastest way they will get a release is by having positive support from the community:-)

However, during the wait, this is a great opportunity to give the DOTT Mod a good look. It's very impressive, and I think you will surely like it:-)

PS: I've been guilty of jumping the gun at T-Zone as well, alot of us have. I in no way am trying to sound like a lecture, just offering my two cents worth of what I believe is best for everyone.
My question would still remain why they need a real world mod to give TEW a shot?

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 07:12 PM
My question would still remain why they need a real world mod to give TEW a shot?

Because, although the C-Verse is a really good and very well thought out database, it's hard to relate to.

Alot of people have played the WreSpi game, and have been able to connect with them, alot of other's have been able to connect with them after giving it a shot. Alot of it has to do with creativity.

I have a problem with creativity at times as well... Bassically, hard to figure out exactly what I want one to be like, with limited information on them. It's also hard to connect with a picture of a computerized toon you have never seen before.

I know there are alot of diehard fans of the C-Verse here, and I sincerely support the C-Verse, and have played around with them myself. However, having Hulk Hogan, or Randy Orton with that snide smile looking back at you, can give you alot of inspiration and make the game legitimately more realistic for you. The C-Verse is capable of the same thing, but it's hard to connect with them when you grew up with the "other".

So bassically, you have a game that understands this, comes with default data, and data that is very well put together with background and alot of other things in it, but... Some people will never take the time to get "into" it that far, especially when they know the real world mods are coming soon.

I think it's great that people can get into the C-Verse, and some find it even easier to be creative with it (and I understand why). However, some just want the connection they get when looking at a picture of their favorite wrestler and knowing exactly how they talk, walk, act, what there theme music is, etc.

Bassically, it's about imagination over anything else.

Maxi
01-29-2007, 07:15 PM
I. Love. You.

bjo313
01-29-2007, 07:20 PM
did anyone else start as awa and immediately get hogan and ventura stolen from them by vince?

i never could get into this mod in 05 but i am loving it so far!

great job and thank you to everyone who worked on it.

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 07:23 PM
did anyone else start as awa and immediately get hogan and ventura stolen from them by vince?

i never could get into this mod in 05 but i am loving it so far!

great job and thank you to everyone who worked on it.

Sorry for all the posts, but I have to say that my day is now complete... I Was wondering when someone noticed how very realistic these guys act in this, lol. Every sim I done, Vince acted like Vince, so this really makes my day/night :-)

HitmanTerp
01-29-2007, 07:39 PM
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!

I bet grey dog saw a huge spike in sales today!!

;)

Johnny Fenoli
01-29-2007, 07:58 PM
Sorry for all the posts, but I have to say that my day is now complete... I Was wondering when someone noticed how very realistic these guys act in this, lol. Every sim I done, Vince acted like Vince, so this really makes my day/night :-)



Yeah, Buddy Jack Roberts showed up late for my show, so I warned him. He through a fit and got pissed, now dislikes me. I told him to chill out or I'll have Jimmy Garvin take his spot in the Freebirds... he walked away in disgust... :D

Ping von Erich
01-29-2007, 08:00 PM
\Every sim I done, Vince acted like Vince, so this really makes my day/night :-)

Seriously, in my SWCW game, in just a few weeks WWF signed Steamboat, Ventura, Junkyard Dog, Piper and Hogan.. this this is simming real life like a champ, man.

*spooky music*


:D

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah, Buddy Jack Roberts showed up late for my show, so I warned him. He through a fit and got pissed, now dislikes me. I told him to chill out or I'll have Jimmy Garvin take his spot in the Freebirds... he walked away in disgust... :D

Haha ha, Very kewl:-)!

D. Boon's Ghost
01-29-2007, 08:06 PM
Yeah, Buddy Jack Roberts showed up late for my show, so I warned him. He through a fit and got pissed, now dislikes me. I told him to chill out or I'll have Jimmy Garvin take his spot in the Freebirds... he walked away in disgust...

:D

That's super. World Class will be my first actual game when I am able to. I'm looking forward to the challenge of running that ship of drug addicts and cat murderers.

Besides bringing Eric the Red and Pak Song back from the dead, the first thing I am doing is targeting that chump Southwest promotion and running them into the ground. They not only have a good roster and a better television show than World Class, but they also promote in WCCW's backyard.

With television tapings taking place on the exact same day SWCW tapes their own show, you can really put a hurting to Blanchard. Just about everyone except Tully and Gino can be had - and all of them will pick your tapings over theirs. :)

thony
01-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Superb work DBG. I am enjoying my first 30 mins of playing your mod. The optional screens and the modified music file really adds more to the gaming experience. :D

Congratulations on a successful launch!

rodzillahotrod
01-29-2007, 09:33 PM
im just curious i dont know if this is an error or not but i thought peter maivia was related to afa and sika and that rocky johnson married peters daughter and which in turns makes the rock related to them correct? Because it doesnt have theis in the relationship for peter being related to afa and sika

theoutlaw321
01-29-2007, 09:41 PM
Peter Mavia was The Rock's grandfather. Rock's mother Ata was married to Rocky Johnson. Mavia is credited with training Afa.

G-Prime
01-29-2007, 09:45 PM
If only I had some cash... Then I could buy TEW07... And then I could play this... *Sigh*

theoutlaw321
01-29-2007, 09:45 PM
Afa trained his brother Sika. And is the uncle to Rosie and Jamal(Umaga) 3 minute warning; Yokozuna; and Rikishi.

theoutlaw321
01-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Kids had basketball games tonight. I'll download in the morning. I can hardly wait.

Ransik
01-29-2007, 11:29 PM
Loving it so far. I have a question though, will you or anyone else be working on an expansion for the New Workers? Cause I'm already in September of '83. :D

soundsofsilver
01-29-2007, 11:37 PM
Should the Japanese promotions be running on regular schedules?

djthefunkchris
01-29-2007, 11:37 PM
Loving it so far. I have a question though, will you or anyone else be working on an expansion for the New Workers? Cause I'm already in September of '83. :D

I will say there is a good possibility that's going to happen, although I'm not sure who. I know who I am hoping does it though. There is/was talk about how nice it would be to have a playable mod that goes through lots of years, instead of playing for about 3 years.

For the record though, you should have at least 6 or 7 years of gametime to play before you really have to worry about that:-).

rodzillahotrod
01-29-2007, 11:47 PM
so peter trained afa and afa trained sika ok i understand that but the rock is related to afa and sika correct?

well i went to obssesedwithwrestling.com and i see it now i think but i was sure peter was related by blood...guess not thanks

the ismailite
01-30-2007, 12:11 AM
Went to work an hour after this was released so I missed all of the hullabaloo.

So then, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

DBG, first of all, thanks for everything you've put into this mod. Thanks for your time, effort, EVERYTHING!

Thanks for letting me sit in on data testing and help out in what meager capacities I could! I LOVE this mod and I sincerely appreciate all of your hard work.

Again, thanks for letting me be involved in any way, and more importantly, thanks for bringing your vision to life my friend.

DocStevens
01-30-2007, 12:46 AM
I hope Grey Dog notices the sudden increase in sales of TEW now that DOTT has been released! I know I have been waiting to buy TEW until DOTT was ready to go.

Fliehr Mark
01-30-2007, 01:00 AM
Been playing since the olden days of deluxe, always read the boards but never posted until now and that's because DOTT 07 is absolutley sick. Thank you D Boon for your time and all the hard work it took to put this out. Being a total mark for the old school I can safely say my life has a new meaning ;) . Never felt better being unemployed.

shipshirt
01-30-2007, 03:17 AM
Seriously, I don't even know where to start with this!! I'm just going through all of the promotions with my mouth agape in awe. I apologize in advance to any of my MAW diary readers because I might be lost in DOTT for a little bit ;)

D Boon, you have really outdone yourself. This is amazing...and I haven't even played a game yet!!

Woodsmeister
01-30-2007, 04:20 AM
would just like to say well done to the team, but also u could have released it last week when my girlfriend wasnt up. i will have to wait until monday night, but it gives me plenty of time to get ready from my GCW, never been them before and will be doing some research, noticed the road warriors and tommy rich.

also, the iron shiek in his profile says something about spending his second tenure in the WWF but he hasnt got a contract there is this a miss print or an oversight?

Anubis
01-30-2007, 05:08 AM
Awesome! This scenario has been improved upon since its TEW2005 counterpart, a noticable improvement. The production quality is really top-notch (everything is nice and tidy in the download and easy to use), and the database itself is excellent.

panix04
01-30-2007, 05:25 AM
I injected some humor into the data to amuse myself and hopefully anyone else. It's my opinion that if you take such things seriously, you may as well put on your Klingon uniform and recite War Poems, or sing songs in elvish while dancing a Tolkien jig; harcore fandom just isn't for me.


I would call your dedication to this continuing project hardcore fandom! Congratulations on putting out another fantastic mod D. Boon, thanks for the effort that has gone into this, maybe when you finally have the mod to your liking you can teach me that Elvish song! (he is the king after all! :D )

Jimmy Spamer
01-30-2007, 10:16 AM
I'm playing as the WWF and one of the owner restrictions put on me was to build home grown superstars which means I can't sign anyone that is already working somewhere :(

Ping von Erich
01-30-2007, 10:41 AM
I'm playing as the WWF and one of the owner restrictions put on me was to build home grown superstars which means I can't sign anyone that is already working somewhere :(

LOL.. someone must have hit Vince really hard with a lamp or something.



"Hogan, Piper, Ventura, Steamboat, all of 'em, I want all of.. "

*whack*

"Guh?! Say.. that Bob Backlund is a hell of a talent, lets build WWF on his back, what say boys?"

WrestleManiac
01-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Well done to a good job. You just sparked extra millage in the game for me. My only problem is that I find some of the storylines more than a tad overwhelming. For example, I'm with Stampede and I wanted a good tag team feud for The Bulldogs. I was interested in the Freebirds Vs Von Erichs but where you have the wrestlers names... that goes right over my head. I was 5 in 1983 and have no idea who the Freebirds and Von Erichs are, so the roles of the storyline just confused me.

Apart from that this mod kicks arse!

DownNDirty
01-30-2007, 11:25 AM
I had the honor of being able to test this game and being a small part of such a wonderful mod. I simmed up through the mid 90's a couple of times - so it is possible even with what new workers are in currently. Had a ton of interesting things happen each time I did it too so anyone that wants to play for several years should be able to right off the bat. I'll say if you play WCCW bring in Rick Gibson - in my scenario that ran through the mid 90's he became the baddest man in Texas and hero of WCCW.

rodzillahotrod
01-30-2007, 01:06 PM
i love this senario its great but i just wanted to throw out a question and maybe a suggestion wasn't the royal rumble and king of the ring already around by then? if so would it be possible for u to add them as a tournament title? i think that would be great because to me they pretty much r a tournament title but if not its still good i could always do it myself . thanks!

Sartagis
01-30-2007, 01:17 PM
First Rumble was in 1988 and the first King Of The Ring was in 1985.

Rumble became a PPV event in 1989 and The King Of The Ring not until 1993.

Consrvtve
01-30-2007, 01:37 PM
Summerslam was also not until 1988. Megapowers vs the Megabucks.

Johnny Fenoli
01-30-2007, 01:51 PM
Has anyone seen the AI book something greater than a C+ show?

Just looking through after a couple of months worht of play and WWF's highest is a C, NJPW is a C, GCW is a C, MACW is a C, AWA is a C, AJPW is a C+.


Does this sound, look right to you guys? Particularly D Boon and/or Adam Ryland?

Ransik
01-30-2007, 02:10 PM
I just noticed Buddy Roberts is in here. A couple years back he came to the ETWA for a couple of appearances and I was able to take some shots from him in a Battle Royale. Way past his heyday then but it was still fun to be in there with the man.

And where's Paul Vachon?! He got to throw me from a Battle Royale, too. Gotta put a former ETWA Champ in this thing! :p

Edit: They work alright Fenoli, if they were getting any higher all the companies would shoot up to National and International and it would be pretty unrealstic to me anyway.

Harmor
01-30-2007, 02:38 PM
Me /chants "This is awesome!"

I have started a 2 player game with a friend and this is simply one heck of an amazing mod. Just booked my second show with AWA, got a B rating for my troubles and we're both having a blast. Greatness has truly arrived to TEW 2007.

Brandon9967
01-30-2007, 02:39 PM
Man, Snuka bit the bullet one month into my game. Sucks too, he was about to become champion. Evovle storyline time. This mod rules, I can't quit playing it.

Jaded
01-30-2007, 03:13 PM
Has anyone seen the AI book something greater than a C+ show?

Just looking through after a couple of months worht of play and WWF's highest is a C, NJPW is a C, GCW is a C, MACW is a C, AWA is a C, AJPW is a C+.


Does this sound, look right to you guys? Particularly D Boon and/or Adam Ryland?

I got to the end of 1984 when testing last week - best shows the AI's booked in 1984:

WWF had about 20 B- shows, and 4 or 5 B's.

In October through to December, the vast majority of Joint's were at least B-, often hitting B.

NJPW hit several B-'s.

MACW's shows for months have been split between B's and B-'s roughly 50-50, with one B+ for a TV show with an awesome A grade main event of Flair vs Rich.

About half of AJPW's shows over the past six months have been B's, with most of the rest B-'s.

Thriller
01-30-2007, 03:20 PM
Will more pics be added soon?

soundsofsilver
01-30-2007, 03:34 PM
I'm a tad confused on how the schedule works here, maybe someone could help me out here.

I notice companies like MACW and WWF have 2 shows per week- one TV show and one small event. I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Are the small events supposed to represent major house shows? Am I supposed to book them as house shows, with my big stars all wrestling? What are my TV shows for?

I'm accustomed to the one-show-per-week, then a PPV system. So this is different.

My thought is that since my TV show is only one hour long, I'll want to use the weekly event so I can utilize all my stars, but if I can get a longer TV show I won't need to use it anymore. Is that correct? Over time, if MACW grows National, is it still going to have a weekly small event?

Also, shouldn't Japanese promotions have touring schedules?

shipshirt
01-30-2007, 04:00 PM
Well done to a good job. You just sparked extra millage in the game for me. My only problem is that I find some of the storylines more than a tad overwhelming. For example, I'm with Stampede and I wanted a good tag team feud for The Bulldogs. I was interested in the Freebirds Vs Von Erichs but where you have the wrestlers names... that goes right over my head. I was 5 in 1983 and have no idea who the Freebirds and Von Erichs are, so the roles of the storyline just confused me.

Apart from that this mod kicks arse!

The names are kind of irrelevant if you're not using those actual wrestlers. Just take a look at the storyline and the plot points and you can figure out how the guys you want to plug in can relate to those roles. That's what I did with stories where I was unfamiliar with how they went.

And wikipedia is a wonderful thing when researching this stuff!!

xfactor9600
01-30-2007, 04:14 PM
Also... you could pick up the World Class Championship Wrestling DVD... the Von Erich- Freebird era was a great one for wrestling.


Sorry to hijack.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-30-2007, 04:19 PM
I'm a tad confused on how the schedule works here, maybe someone could help me out here.

I notice companies like MACW and WWF have 2 shows per week- one TV show and one small event. I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Are the small events supposed to represent major house shows? Am I supposed to book them as house shows, with my big stars all wrestling? What are my TV shows for?

I'm accustomed to the one-show-per-week, then a PPV system. So this is different.

My thought is that since my TV show is only one hour long, I'll want to use the weekly event so I can utilize all my stars, but if I can get a longer TV show I won't need to use it anymore. Is that correct? Over time, if MACW grows National, is it still going to have a weekly small event?

Correct. The weekly small events are meant to represent the house show circuit back then.

These days television is used like an informercial for PPV events. Well, back then t.v. was used the exact same way - except it was to promote the house shows and whatever monthly, 'bigger' events on a schedule.
The way I play is to use t.v. soley to promote Advance Bookings for upcoming events (weekly, monthly, whatever) and storylines.

And once one of the AI promotions go National (or Cult, actually), they will probably still have that small weekly event - but it will most likely put them on a PPV network; ala the old-time WWF MSG shows on the MSG Network, or the Philadelphia Spectrum cards on Prism.

Will more pics be added soon?

Eventually. I worked about a week straight on the profile pics that are there and I pretty much burnt myself out on the whole process.

That and the fact that I have to cut the pics on my Apple computer, then transfer everything to my half-dead windows machine to assign the pics in the editor - then transfer everything back to the Apple so that I can upload them.
It's been a pain.

----

And the Freebirds were Michael Hayes (the leader/mouthpiece), Terry Gordy (the muscle), and Buddy Jack Roberts (the one that took the beatings, heh). :)

Jasx12
01-30-2007, 04:26 PM
D. Boon's, quick question for ya -

Did my download mess up or are all the locations not in? Currently im Pacific Northwest and I just have a bunch of generic (North West (Very Small)) type locations.

It's nothing major, I renamed the one location I use alot, just wondering if I messed something up :)

If not, take your time I understand how much work a mod truly is.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-30-2007, 04:40 PM
The locations have not been completed, Jas. There are still a few generic locations in the scenario.

I plan on releasing a small update sometime in the near future, as Dolfanar has finished all of the Mid Atlantic venues.

theoutlaw321
01-30-2007, 04:53 PM
DBG, how can I say this?........

Is it okay to tell you I love you? (or should I do that privately)?

Either way. I do. This has been worth the wait. As before(no offense to Adam or anyone else that has worked on any of the other mods), I waited to download 2007 until your latest masterpiece was released. All I can say is thanks for all your hard work. Oh hell yeah!!!

soundsofsilver
01-30-2007, 05:27 PM
Correct. The weekly small events are meant to represent the house show circuit back then.

These days television is used like an informercial for PPV events. Well, back then t.v. was used the exact same way - except it was to promote the house shows and whatever monthly, 'bigger' events on a schedule.
The way I play is to use t.v. soley to promote Advance Bookings for upcoming events (weekly, monthly, whatever) and storylines.

And once one of the AI promotions go National (or Cult, actually), they will probably still have that small weekly event - but it will most likely put them on a PPV network; ala the old-time WWF MSG shows on the MSG Network, or the Philadelphia Spectrum cards on Prism.


I'm not going to be able to play a licensed TEW for a few weeks, so I have a while to decide, but I'm not sure about the way that will turn out. I don't know that I want to see an International WWF or MACW running weekly PPVs, or maybe I will, I don't know. I'm just not sure I'd enjoy seeing other companies run weekly PPVs, so I might edit that from the start to begin with.

In case anyone is interested, I'll probably be working on a slightly more comprehensive new workers file, though I don't have any experience modding TEW so it will probably suck. But I have a few weeks to mess around.

TEWFan
01-30-2007, 05:41 PM
A small correction: Miguel Perez picture in WWC is wrong. The guy in the picture is his son, Perez jr, who went to the WWF as part of Los Boricuas. The bio describes his father. Perhaps, look for Jose Miguel Perez, his full name, to see if you come up with a real picture of the father. I think obsessedwithwrestling has one.

Perez Jr should be added as a future worker since he debuted three years later in 1986(although if I am not mistaken, he worked for several years as a masked jobber to gain experience before he debuted, so he might have been active in 1983).

bigjabbadudley
01-30-2007, 06:00 PM
this could be quite good, will have a little fun with this untill tzone 07 comes out

Vladamire Dracos
01-30-2007, 07:13 PM
D. Boon's, quick question for ya -

Did my download mess up or are all the locations not in? Currently im Pacific Northwest and I just have a bunch of generic (North West (Very Small)) type locations.

It's nothing major, I renamed the one location I use alot, just wondering if I messed something up :)

If not, take your time I understand how much work a mod truly is.

Someone else is playing PNW?? YAY! :D What storylines have you got going?

djthefunkchris
01-30-2007, 07:22 PM
I'm not going to be able to play a licensed TEW for a few weeks, so I have a while to decide, but I'm not sure about the way that will turn out. I don't know that I want to see an International WWF or MACW running weekly PPVs, or maybe I will, I don't know. I'm just not sure I'd enjoy seeing other companies run weekly PPVs, so I might edit that from the start to begin with.

In case anyone is interested, I'll probably be working on a slightly more comprehensive new workers file, though I don't have any experience modding TEW so it will probably suck. But I have a few weeks to mess around.

My only suggestion is to look at what is there as a basis (I mean pick out people your familiar with), and make sure the stats are compatible to how you think the new worker would compare to them... Meaning look at the new worker's already in it, for guides to popularity as well.

I'm sure you will do a fine job :-)

Jasx12
01-30-2007, 07:36 PM
Not to thread hijack but Vlad -

I brought in the Sheepherders again to strengthen a WEAK tag team division (they have the belts)

Playboy Buddy Rose is the Hvywt. Champ - Feuding with Billy Jack (PLUS they happen to have great chemistry for me +++ )

I have the TV title active, and am feuding the Malenko brothers atm.

Other than that not much, still trying to figure out what promotion I wanna do my diary as.

Plus i had one of the worst blocks for the time -- Cannot bring in anyone that is working for another promotion (I got the Sheepherders before it was in place.)

Johnny Fenoli
01-30-2007, 07:54 PM
And the Freebirds were Michael Hayes (the leader/mouthpiece), Terry Gordy (the muscle), and Buddy Jack Roberts (the one that took the beatings, heh). :)


Yes they where.... without the freebirds my WCCW game would be in the crapper.... I'm pushing Terry Gordy to the moon right now. He's got three titles. Two are tag titles though...

I'm running the first ever Von Erich Family Invitational tournament at my parade of Champions show this month. I invited 8 new signings to compete (damn Fritz wouldnt open his wallet for the 8 I wanted) but I got Bill Dundee, Adrian Adonis, Paul Orndorff, Bobby Jaggers, Ron Bass, Tommy Rich, Ted DiBiase, and Larry Zybsko. So it should go pretty good. I plan on keeping Jaggers to team with Dutch Mantell, and 6 Man team up those two with Ron Bass. I'm also going to have Ted DiBiase, Steve Williams and Jimmy Garvin team up eventually to feud with the Freebirds.

Everythings good so far though, really loving the game. I had to add my arena to the data, just wouldnt feel right preforming in a generic named arena, instead of the barn in downtown Dallas...

bjo313
01-31-2007, 12:48 AM
WHOO! I got an A* match!!

Roddy Piper making his 16th AWA World Title Match against a visiting Ric Flair!!

I advance booked it and used Piper taunting as like a "Flair will never show up" type thing.

Good thing too because the rest of the show bombed :(

Vladamire Dracos
01-31-2007, 12:57 AM
Not to thread hijack but Vlad -

I brought in the Sheepherders again to strengthen a WEAK tag team division (they have the belts)

Playboy Buddy Rose is the Hvywt. Champ - Feuding with Billy Jack (PLUS they happen to have great chemistry for me +++ )

I have the TV title active, and am feuding the Malenko brothers atm.

Other than that not much, still trying to figure out what promotion I wanna do my diary as.

Plus i had one of the worst blocks for the time -- Cannot bring in anyone that is working for another promotion (I got the Sheepherders before it was in place.)

Neat. I just started with them after running a few years just watching (have to go with the home team :)). I'm setting up to run the "Howdydoodie to Hulkamania" storylines in order (with Dutch Savage playing the Backland role, Sheik Abdullah Ali Hassan as Iron Sheik, and Billy Jack as Hogan) to move my Hvywt. title over to Billy. The catalyst to the storyline is going to be Dutch Savage picking up the title off of Abdullah in my first show, which is going to lead to Percy Pringle III laying down the famous club challenge. Nice to see I'm not the only one pushing Billy Jack toward the title. :)
I'm also doing "The Devil and the Dream" storyline with my User character (as Sullivan) and Billy Two Eagles (B2E playing the Dreams' role) to move the TV title to B2E and get the pair over. It'll also give me the heel team of Mega Maharishi (Easy Ed Wiskoski, who's filling the Roop role) and Assassin (my Jake the Snake) as my character's "Army of Darkness". I'm actually thinking this could be evolved into a 3v3 team fued at the end and maybe it'll ready get cooking.
I've also got the "Hot Rod vs. Snuka" angle ready to break out in the interm with Playboy starting "The rose Garden" that will eventually lead to a fued with Jules Strongbow with a guest appearance from Rip Oliver (as "Ace" Orton). that should keep my fans interested for awhile (I hope!) while I build up the other two storylines.

I know what you mean about the tag division, never thought about bringing in the Sheepherders though (don't know why, I loved the team and knew they were in Portland at one point). I was thinking of seeing if I can grab Jesse and Art Barr to fill thing out a bit (on a related note, I wanted to set their dad Sandy up as their manager, but he doesn't have any skills other than what's needed to be a ref. Guess I'll have a go with the editor). I also set up Bull Ramos and Rip Rogers (with Brenda Britton as their manager) as a tag team for the Howdydoodie storyline (filling in the Afa, Sika, and Albano roles) and they'll also be taking the tag titles off Stan and Billy Jack during my first show (to help link them into the storyline a bit) and of course, I'll have Mega Maharishi and Assassin soon. With the Barrs, Malenkos, and Sheepherders (great idea :)), my tag division should be hopping. Gonna have a hard time deciding who gets the belts!

rjhabeeb
01-31-2007, 12:58 AM
awesome this is awesome

Vladamire Dracos
01-31-2007, 02:44 AM
Heh, just realized Art Barr hasn't debuted yet. :p That's okay though, I had already hit up Jesse before I realized my error, so I dropped a line to Len Denton (aka one half of The Grapplers) and will toss those two together as a new version of the team. :) Not what I wanted, but it'll still be a cool team!

TsuMirren
01-31-2007, 08:32 AM
Finally, after all the testing I can sit down and run a diary as All Star...or Joint...no All Star...hmmm, maybe Joint...doesn't mattere, as hopefully you did add Scottish Championship Wrestling and I'll just wait until "my baby" gets born and I can apply for the job.

Jonfun
01-31-2007, 11:08 AM
Scottish Championship Wrestling is not in the data.

dcxbox
01-31-2007, 11:57 AM
i think dean and joe malenko need to be switched

D. Boon's Ghost
01-31-2007, 12:00 PM
i think dean and joe malenko need to be switched

I could post something like:

And cheese should be blue.

But if I don't explain why, I'm a lunatic.


But... nah. :)

Seriously. Why should the Malenko's be switched?

raynefall007
01-31-2007, 02:33 PM
Double check the Tolos brothers, they both have the same bio (Chris').

Just letting you know, Boon.

PS - Is there a reason that WWF don't start with Tuesday Night Titans being on-air? In my game, it states the show is off the air because it's not on a network. I'm assuming this is to add it later when WWF picks up another TV show?

D. Boon's Ghost
01-31-2007, 02:37 PM
Thanks on the Tolos brothers, raynefall007. I'll get that straightened out.

And you are correct on Tuesday Night Titans. I gave it to them, but kept it off the air so the player would have a chance to hit up the USA network once Southwest Championship gets booted off the air.

And to think. Had Joe Blanchard been able to pay his bills, McMahon would have never gotten that USA deal. Or at least had to wait on it until '84 when he began undercutting the competition's syndicated deals.

WrestleManiac
01-31-2007, 02:48 PM
Dave and Earl Hebner have the same pic. Just thought you should know.

Jaded
01-31-2007, 02:53 PM
Dave and Earl Hebner have the same pic. Just thought you should know.

Weren't they identical twins, though?

WrestleManiac
01-31-2007, 02:56 PM
Weren't they identical twins, though?

Sure, but it's the same pic.

Also, has anybody managed to book a show and get higher than a C? Even the AI seems to have difficulty getting any higher.

Johnny Fenoli
01-31-2007, 03:13 PM
Sure, but it's the same pic.

Also, has anybody managed to book a show and get higher than a C? Even the AI seems to have difficulty getting any higher.

I've gotten a B+

beatzNrhymez
01-31-2007, 04:26 PM
I've gotten a B+

Me too. I've also seen a B+ for a AJPW show

wooodaddy
01-31-2007, 04:57 PM
I'm so excited D. Boon.. I have longed for the day, and it's finally here.. thanks buddy.

That Crazy Guy
01-31-2007, 05:00 PM
I average a B every show with WWF.

3 A matches, to. Masked Superstar/Pedro Morales, Don Muraco/Jimmy Snuka and Santana/Backlund have all given me A's.

D. Boon's Ghost
01-31-2007, 05:18 PM
I average a B every show with WWF.

3 A matches, to. Masked Superstar/Pedro Morales, Don Muraco/Jimmy Snuka and Santana/Backlund have all given me A's.

Did you Advance Book or use a Storyline to help build interest in those matches, Dwight?

Regardless, I am impressed. In all my testing, I've only managed one A match. And that was the Blow Off match to a ten week storyline in my home region.

Gino Hernandez vs. Tully Blanchard, SWCW - if anyone is interested. :)

TsuMirren
01-31-2007, 05:23 PM
Of course, for the ultimate in realism you should set Owen Hart's debut date to December 1983.

I argued this until blue in the face, it even affected my performance at work. lol

Everyone said "we don't want Owen debuting and then being subject to the AI". WELL, my argument is that new workers don't develop until they've debuted and 3 years of development may well bring him up to the level of this wishy washy assumed debut date of 1986. :)

Goldenskillz
01-31-2007, 05:36 PM
In D.O.T.T i have only had 2 A matches, they were both at Wrestlemania

The first was Andre The Giant Vs. Bruno Sammartino in the main event with Andre defending (succesfully) his WWF World Championship (i took off the limits both minimum and max) and the other was the final match of my Jimmy Snuka vs. Sgt Slaughter best of 7 series which got an A after Jimmy won.

Also Ric Flair got dropped my MACW, he was on a written but didnt even sign a PPA extension......whats up with that :p

EDIT: I also had Ricky Stemaboat vs. Roddy Piper pencilled in for Wrestlemania but not only one but BOTH men failed to turn up or give a damn reason. There was hell to pay for both i can assure you lol.

Johnny Fenoli
01-31-2007, 05:39 PM
Did you Advance Book or use a Storyline to help build interest in those matches, Dwight?

Regardless, I am impressed. In all my testing, I've only managed one A match. And that was the Blow Off match to a ten week storyline in my home region.

Gino Hernandez vs. Tully Blanchard, SWCW - if anyone is interested. :)

I've gotten an A match about every two or three shows with WCCW. Most of them being with the Freebirds vs Von Erichs rivalary. But also Jose Lothario vs The Great Kabuki vs Black Gordman feud. These dudes have yet to deliver something less than a B- match up, no matter what match up I put the combo of them in.

TEWFan
01-31-2007, 05:55 PM
I have had 2 A matches, both with the WWF: Backlund vs Slaughter(after I basically recreated their feud) and surprisingly, Hogan vs Ray Stevens in Hogan's debut. My plan is to put the title on Slaughter and have him have one or two more feuds, before he proclaims himself the "Real American Hero" and this leads to the Hogan feud and the birth of Hulkamania.

Also Boon, do you mind if I make an extra pic pack for the wrestlers you are missing? I found the Miguel Perez Sr pic as well as one for Pedro Morales(who is also missing) and several others and I was thinking of cutting them and making them avalible for those who want the extra pics. But I wanted to get permission from you first.:)

D. Boon's Ghost
01-31-2007, 06:43 PM
Also Boon, do you mind if I make an extra pic pack for the wrestlers you are missing? I found the Miguel Perez Sr pic as well as one for Pedro Morales(who is also missing) and several others and I was thinking of cutting them and making them avalible for those who want the extra pics. But I wanted to get permission from you first.:)

That would be fantastic, TF. There is a blank profile template in there if needed.

BGSU StrangeCupofTea
01-31-2007, 06:50 PM
I've had a lot of success in resurrecting SWCW so far, especially with all the possibilities of talent trades.
So far, I've had these "A" matches:
Adonis vs. Rick Martel
Adonis vs. Chavo Guerrero (stemming from a good fued)
Tully Blanchard & Gino Hernandez vs. Ken Lucas & Morton - Feud blow-off cage match
And I've had good matches by doing talent trades and bringing in Jim Duggan, former AWA champ Nick Bonkwinkel, etc.

Anubis
01-31-2007, 06:56 PM
A word of warning to anyone playing this: play Free Style.

Every time I start up a game on Straight Edge, I end up with the "can't hire anyone who works for someone else" block, which is crippling enough in the normal game with smaller feds, but absolutely ridiculously killer in D.O.T.T.

TEWFan
01-31-2007, 08:23 PM
Not if you decide who you really want and hire everyone on the first day. I started as the WWF and inmediatly decided to sign Hogan, Ventura, Piper, Steamboat and Magnum T.A. I got the same block the next day, but since negotiations had already started(I had requested them) I was able to sign them without any trouble. And it counts for signings only, once they are signed, you can resign them any time and the block doesnt apply.

djthefunkchris
01-31-2007, 08:53 PM
CHEATER!!!!! Just kidding, lol.

Goldenskillz
01-31-2007, 10:38 PM
I have played 2 games with D.O.T.T so far and never had that block, although i always get the steriod thing. I just wonder how many of the ppl actually on steriods are put as steriod users in Dott. Hmmmm

Oyaji
02-01-2007, 12:25 AM
Thank you so very much for this one, Eric. I really do appreciate all the hard work and dedication that went into this behemoth of a project and I'm glad it has worked out so well.

I've been giving good ol' Mid-South Rasslin' a go. It's so tough having to work around all my employees wrestling for the bigger companies that have quickly expanded outside of their regions.

One quick suggestion concerning the Japanese data... All Japan should probably be a good deal lower in popularity than New Japan at this point. As you mention in the word file that they exploded in the mid 80s with Choshu and his boys, but prior to that they weren't anywhere near New Japan in terms of popularity. I still think that they should have a slight edge in prestige because they had the bigger foreign names working for them regularly (Funks, Hansen & Brody).

Thanks again and job well done!

Vladamire Dracos
02-01-2007, 01:43 AM
A word of warning to anyone playing this: play Free Style.

Every time I start up a game on Straight Edge, I end up with the "can't hire anyone who works for someone else" block, which is crippling enough in the normal game with smaller feds, but absolutely ridiculously killer in D.O.T.T.

That's nothing. I got the Athleticism one AND I can't hire/rehire anyone who is on steroids or has been in the past. As PNW. In 1983. I'm just glad Billy Jack and Buddy Rose's contracts arn't coming up any time soon. :p

WrestleManiac
02-01-2007, 06:53 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but in the storylines where is Andre Vs Studd Pt. 2? Maybe I'm blind, but I can't see it anywhere.

Purple Cowboy
02-01-2007, 06:58 AM
Just adding to the chorus D. Boon & everyone, thanks for this! So psyched to get to use the Nightmares as monsters again! :)

Showtime4Lajf
02-01-2007, 09:04 AM
I finally got the time to actually play this a little bit, and I must say that it's more awesome than ever. Just the sheer amount of people in the game is astonishing. Now I'm off to sign Easy Ed and turn him into the Mega Maharishi so that he may start a cult and actually turn one of the Von Erich boys against their family! Good times.

Thanks for all the hard work put into this.

Cold Cobra
02-01-2007, 09:52 AM
The best matches I've had so far in my AWA file is a nice built up Hogan vs. Bockwinkel match (Two days before Hogan left for the WWF...), Rick Martel vs. David Shultz (A week before Shultz no-showed one of my events...) and the best I've ever put on (the two previously mentioned ones were B's) is Curt Hennig vs. Mr. Saito, which was a B+.

I must say though, the amount of people who end up being loyal to their promotions is annoying... so many opportunities wasted... But I know there is nothing you can do about it as they don't have a pre-set loyalty to them.

Fleisch
02-01-2007, 10:42 AM
did anyone else start as awa and immediately get hogan and ventura stolen from them by vince?

i never could get into this mod in 05 but i am loving it so far!

great job and thank you to everyone who worked on it.

Yep. That happened to me. But once I found out they were leaving I done what any "bitter" booker would do and jobbed them out to 2 of my future stars.

Bought in Jake Roberts to replace Ventura but still looking for a Hogan replacement... wait I think that may prove impossible!

Vladamire Dracos
02-01-2007, 10:55 AM
I'm still banging around with PNW. The best match I've gotten so far was a nice "B-" in a thrown together match between Billy Jack and Buddy Rose ("The performance of Playboy Buddy Rose stood out as being good" despite Billy Jack doing the big stiff and Coss developing a single match cold bug right before) that ended in a double count out after Dean Ho (who was the guest on "The Rose Garden" earlier in the show) interfered. Rose is really a godsend for me, seems whatever angle or match I put him in comes out to be at least a C+. I'm also developing a liking to having Dutch Savage as my champ and he's been doing great work for me match rating-wise and segment-wise. I think the worst segment I've gotten out of him was a rated "C" match up with Bull Ramos that he won.

I also just managed to sign the Hot Rod (who the WWF foolishly signed to a PPA agreement) just before my next show. So, assuming the WWF don't need him that night, I'm hoping to bring him in to be in the corner of Jules Strongbow in his fued with Rose, just for the angles and mic work that could go down from it!

Please excuse me if I gush too much about my experiences, but this data is so engaging that I feel the need to talk about it. :) very, very good job D.Boon and company. :)

bjo313
02-01-2007, 11:35 AM
Yep. That happened to me. But once I found out they were leaving I done what any "bitter" booker would do and jobbed them out to 2 of my future stars.

Bought in Jake Roberts to replace Ventura but still looking for a Hogan replacement... wait I think that may prove impossible!


oh. my revenge was stealing Orndorff, Studd, Piper, Slaughter and Backlund from WWF.

:)

Johnny Fenoli
02-01-2007, 12:44 PM
I finally got the time to actually play this a little bit, and I must say that it's more awesome than ever. Just the sheer amount of people in the game is astonishing. Now I'm off to sign Easy Ed and turn him into the Mega Maharishi so that he may start a cult and actually turn one of the Von Erich boys against their family! Good times.

Thanks for all the hard work put into this.

You stole my idea about turning of one of the Von Erichs!! David Von Erich is getting ready to turn on the boys....

combatmedic
02-01-2007, 01:05 PM
great work, i have been waiting for this ever since i got tew07.

just one thing i noticed, sorry if this has been mentioned.....


Robert Malliet's picture is that of Kevin Nash.



Now I am going to continue Hulk Hogan's dominance as a heel in WWF, thanks for your hard work

MiddleGA
02-01-2007, 02:39 PM
And after reading how hard A matches were to get ... Tommy Rich & Larry Zbyszko produce an A* match on my very first GCW card :D

djthefunkchris
02-01-2007, 03:05 PM
And after reading how hard A matches were to get ... Tommy Rich & Larry Zbyszko produce an A* match on my very first GCW card :D

How downright mean of you to post something like this!! LOL< Just kidding. Congratulations on your game:-)

Far as picture's and related stuff are concerned (the things that are obvious oversights, but easy to fix). For picture's, try changing the picture, see if the picture is in there (look for a pic with the right name). It could be, never know.

Just wanted to make an observation of the game TEW2007 I've made recently. The MOD I'm helping with, I've used random pic's (but the right person) for just well, being able to see them while working on them. And I've noticed that when importing to another dataset, the pics sometimes change, or end up with a pic when none was there for it..

An example is of Captain Adam's picture being on Captain America's, although I didn't actually have a pic for Captain America to start with (left it blank). I think this happens when the game does the quick check, or whatever... Somehow maybe someone with the same first name can end up on the wrong person... Ric Flair, Ric Steamboat... Several people with the same first names could end up in the wrong place. Now, I don't know if this happens when there is an actual picture for the person or not, it might be that it just happens when there is none set for it.

I'm pretty sure of this, as it's happened several times in different area's I'm working on. It might just happen after you quit, then come back to play as well. I don't exactly know what 'cause's it. I wanted to be able to comment for the various posts asking about the wrong pic for different people.

My guess is simply... If there is no picture with the exact name, one is assigned that might be it (A son's pic in place of the father's, if they have the same first name for example). I remember importing data and not pics, leaving the blank pic on the screen when you open the worker file. However, when you copy/paste the pics to it, although you haven't assigned a pic, somehow the picture is there. I actually like that, so you don't have to assign a picture to each and every person... but that leave's to these mistakes that seem to be popping up.

Hope that explains a bit of what could/might be happening.

Rocland
02-01-2007, 04:11 PM
I usually make my own wallpapers for my computer. Plus it seems people are posting about what's been happening in their game, so I figured I'd post my lastest wallpaper here:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6743/superclashsmallvi0.jpg

D. Boon's Ghost
02-01-2007, 04:19 PM
That's killer, Rocland; excellent job.

And I'm super impressed by that line-up! :) A Von Erichs three-way is quite interesting. As is Bob Backlund with a decent run in the AWA. To me, the AWA is a perfect fit for Backlund.

And how about that AWA United Heavyweight bout? Egads!

Rocland
02-01-2007, 04:29 PM
That's killer, Rocland; excellent job.

And I'm super impressed by that line-up! :) A Von Erichs three-way is quite interesting. As is Bob Backlund with a decent run in the AWA. To me, the AWA is a perfect fit for Backlund.

And how about that AWA United Heavyweight bout? Egads!

Thank you for the kind words D.Boon. I managed to buy out WCCW, and keep all the good wrestlers (i.e. the Von Erichs etc). Also out of respect for Fritz I kept the WCCW American heavyweight title as an active title in the AWA. Kerry & Kevin are the faces and evil David is the black sheep.

As for Backlund, I always thought he's looked over when people are talking about the all time greats. I mean sure the guy was kind of bonkers, but damn he could wrestle!

MiddleGA
02-01-2007, 05:01 PM
How downright mean of you to post something like this!! LOL< Just kidding. Congratulations on your game:-)

So I suppose it would be better if I didn't even mention that I just had 3 consecutive A's on my third show ;)

Jake Roberts over Bullet Bob Armstrong
Ole Anderson over Buzz Sawyer
Larry Zbyszko over Tommy Rich (currently in an unchained storyline)

(In all seriousness, I'm actually mentioning these just in case they might be useful info/ideas for other TEW'ers)

James Casey
02-01-2007, 05:04 PM
And how about that AWA United Heavyweight bout? Egads!

That would be an awesome, awesome match...

HitmanTerp
02-01-2007, 06:19 PM
Playing as the AWA..

I managed to hold Hogan, Heenan and Okerlund but lost Ventura, which kinda sucks because I signed Adrian Adonis to reignite the High Flyers vs. East/West Connection feud..

All wasnt lost totally though, I brought in Adrian Street (since I couldnt sign Dick Murdoch) and tagged him with Adonis and call them the Glamour Boys. Yeah, not really a Verne style move, but I am trying to play the game as if Verne actually understood that the business was changing..

:-)

My first ppv was a moderate success.

Mr Saito over Curt Hennig
Wahoo McDaniel over Ken Patera via DQ (this is a fued)
High Flyers over Jerry Blackwell and Adnan for the AWA Tag Titles (but jumped by Adonis and Street, starting that fued)
David Schultz over Mad Dog Vachon
Hulk Hogan over Black Jack Lanza
Nick Bockwinkel over Baron Von Raschke for the AWA Title

D. Boon's Ghost
02-01-2007, 06:57 PM
... I managed to hold Hogan, Heenan and Okerlund but lost Ventura, which kinda sucks because I signed Adrian Adonis to reignite the High Flyers vs. East/West Connection feud..

All wasnt lost totally though, I brought in Adrian Street (since I couldnt sign Dick Murdoch) and tagged him with Adonis and call them the Glamour Boys. Yeah, not really a Verne style move, but I am trying to play the game as if Verne actually understood that the business was changing...

That's very cool, Hitman. I'm really surprised you managed to hold onto Hogan.

And pairing up Adonis and Street is inspired.

I've always been a huge fan of both. If Street had been six inches taller, he would have been an even bigger name in wrestling. Speaking of... check out who Randy Savage jobbed to on his way out of Memphis to the WWF: Street mauls the Macho Man (http://www.bizarebazzar.com/adrian4.htm) (from Street's site). It's probably the worst beating Savage took in Memphis - and that includes anything Lawler dished out.

I tell ya... don't mess with Miss Linda. :)

And Adonis was one of the more gifted wrestlers of the 70s and early 80s.

bobinc
02-01-2007, 07:06 PM
I too am playing as the AWA and WWF took Ventura and Hogan but I was able to put Hogan in a losing 40 minute inferno match before he went to WWF so he was so fatugied (not injured, dang) that he didn't wrestle for about 2 weeks. I am close to beating the wwf in TV ratings though they average 1.5 and am getting 1.3-1.4 I also brought in the LOD for my tag team division if you can call it that. I cant seem to get Macho Man out of ICW though.

TEWFan
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
With the WWF I am slowly phasing guys like Bob Backlund and Ray Stevens out of the main event picture and pushing Magnum T.A. and Big John Studd(who is a personal favorite). I also reunited Tony Garea and Rick Martel as a team. The story is that the Wild Samoans managed to destroy The Invaders and The Soul Train(Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas) in separate feuds(which turned Afa into a main eventer) and then destroyed Garea and his partner Eddie Gilbert. So Garea brought back his old pal Rick Martel. The feud has gone really good thus far and Martel and Garea took the titles from the Samoans(in a B+ match) only for the Samoans to beat them down and continue the feud. The result thus far? Afa went down to upper midcard, Sika moved up to upper midcard, Garea is still at midcard, but Martel made a HUGE leap from midcard to Main Eventer in just three matches!

Also Backlund dropped the main title to Sgt. Slaughter, who is slowly turning into the main heel. Slaughter will eventually become a super villain who claims to be the "Real American Hero" and this will lead to the Hogan feud and birth of Hulkamania. But for now, he is putting A* matches with Ricky Steamboat. I feel bad for Steamboat since he is only fodder for Slaughter right now. On the other hand, Hogan is going to go on a 10 match winstreak(already he has beaten the likes of Jimmy Snuka, Ray Stevens, Mr. Fuji, Tiger Chung Lee, George "Animal" Steele, Don Kernodle and the great and awesome Johnny Rodz :D ) until Jesse Ventura attacks him backstage and injures him prior to taking the streak away from him. This leads to a short Hogan/Ventura program in which Hogan gets groomed for the main event.

Don Muraco also had an awesome feud with Tito Santana(which blew off on a A- steel cage match) and now feuds with Bob Backlund after Muraco became Piper's bodyguard. Piper had beaten Bruno Sammartino by cheating, which lead to Bob Backlund coming out to defend Bruno. Then at Piper's Pit, Piper insulted Backlund, which led to a brawl and a challenge. Piper won the match with Muraco's help and now Backlund wants revenge.

I love this scenario :p

Vladamire Dracos
02-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Looks like I might have to give Dizzy Ed Hogan the axe soon. I put him in a losing effort against my User Character to help build my character up and got "A hot crowd was against Dizzy Ed Hogan, chanting for him to not come back." They also don't seem fond of Billy Jack, Steve Strong, and Dean Malenko either. Kind of a pain as that's about half my faces. :p I'm trying to get Billy Jack over despite it (as I want him to be the PNW version of Hulk Hogan), as well as Steve Strong (who is one half of my only full time face tag team, along with Mean Mike Miller.)

Random thought: Crows Nest is an awesome name for the PNW product style, it's bit of an inside nod for those who know about Portland Wrestling though. ;)

D. Boon's Ghost
02-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Let me know what you think of that product style for PNW, Vlad. I honestly wasn't sure about them, as they are so difficult to pigeonhole; they had the hardcore of the Stretcher Service and Moondog Mayne, the stylings of Dynamite Kid for a spell, Buddy Rose's Sports Entertainment... such a great mish-mash.

Because Haynes being crapped on by the fans shows I may be off.

Vladamire Dracos
02-01-2007, 08:59 PM
It's just the vocal crowd feature, which I'm pretty sure is random (although perfectly acceptable given the time period). Just means I have to work harder to get him, Dean, and Strong over. Isn't like they're getting the same reaction that Leslie was, they just "didn't seem particularly thrilled with seeing" them wrestle.
I'll give the product a closer look for you though. It's funny, I've heard long time fans compare PNW in their prime with ECW during it's hot period. Wrestling-wise, you can draw several parallels, what with Dynamite Kid and Dean and Joe Malenkos' technical stylings in PNW compared to ECW Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit, The Sheepherders and Moondog Mayne with ECW guys like the Dudley Boys and Sabu, then you have entertainment focused guys (who could still go) like Rose and the Hot Rod, compared to Pillman and Austin. It was a very unique promotion.

Mr T Jobs To Me
02-01-2007, 10:18 PM
In a note that makes me very happy, I've been using an autoclicker to sim through and Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat for the I-C Title actually happened at Wrestlemania III- and it got the WWF a rare (for that time) "A"!

D16NJD16
02-01-2007, 10:24 PM
Just wondering, how come HULK HOGAN doesn't have steriod usage ticked off? :D

Ping von Erich
02-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Just wondering, how come HULK HOGAN doesn't have steriod usage ticked off? :D

*shhhhhhhh*

Hogan would NEVER use 'roids!

That body was built from prayers and vitamins..



*ahem*

brat99
02-01-2007, 11:58 PM
just wanted to let all who worked on this and tested how much their hard work is appreciated! i am 1 very happy DOTT fan!

was hoping for a small favor if possible though -- D Boon, could you please post a blank for the blue background as i would like to add a few (KOTR & Crocket Cup)

Thanks again!

Purple Cowboy
02-02-2007, 07:05 AM
Hey DBG - is Crusher Lisowski in the mod somewhere and I'm just missing him? He & Dick the Bruiser had something absurd like 10 world tag titles and he was active again by 1983.

D. Boon's Ghost
02-02-2007, 08:13 AM
Hey DBG - is Crusher Lisowski in the mod somewhere and I'm just missing him? He & Dick the Bruiser had something absurd like 10 world tag titles and he was active again by 1983.

He's listed as 'The Crusher'.

... was hoping for a small favor if possible though -- D Boon, could you please post a blank for the blue background as i would like to add a few (KOTR & Crocket Cup)
Gpanic did all of those for the TEW05 version; I'm not sure if he ever provided a blank background. And I don't think he hangs around here any longer.

I'll keep looking, though.

Just wondering, how come HULK HOGAN doesn't have steriod usage ticked off?
Rats. I thought I had that one checked.
Thanks for catching that.

Consrvtve
02-02-2007, 08:27 AM
"Just wondering, how come HULK HOGAN doesn't have steriod usage ticked off?"

Because it wasn't the juice. It was all the training, the prayers, and the "vitamins", brother!

Purple Cowboy
02-02-2007, 09:41 AM
He's listed as 'The Crusher'.



Ahh... just didn't scroll down far enough! Thanks! :)

Goldenskillz
02-02-2007, 09:54 AM
"Just wondering, how come HULK HOGAN doesn't have steriod usage ticked off?"

Because it wasn't the juice. It was all the training, the prayers, and the "vitamins", brother!

And we all know what those "vitamins" are now brother, but maybe in 1983 they really believed they were good old fashioned vitamins.

HugeRockStar760
02-02-2007, 10:17 AM
To be fair, even if Hogan was on steroids, it still took effort in the gym to look like that. I don't really see why everyone harps on Hogan for steroid use when it was rampantly used by just about every wrestler in the 80s.

raynefall007
02-02-2007, 10:39 AM
To be honest, is there proof that Hogan used steroids pre-1983? I mean, I know he and McMahon were big into them during his time in WWF, but considering the time frame of this scenario, is it a fact or are we just assuming he has used them previously?

cereal.killer
02-02-2007, 10:41 AM
To be honest, is there proof that Hogan used steroids pre-1983? I mean, I know he and McMahon were big into them during his time in WWF, but considering the time frame of this scenario, is it a fact or are we just assuming he has used them previously?

yes there is:

http://www.haktanir.org/gures/pics/hogan/50.jpg

Rey619
02-02-2007, 10:53 AM
Eh.. ok.. I downloaded the scenario file.. when I double-click on it, nothing happens.. what to do?

HugeRockStar760
02-02-2007, 11:19 AM
yes there is:

http://www.haktanir.org/gures/pics/hogan/50.jpg

That's proof? That's odd. Are you saying that anyone that isn't lazy and works out at the gym is on steroids? You're obviously mistaken. Hogan has always been a big guy. It wouldn't take much for him to bulk up considering his diet and weightlifting.

Ransik
02-02-2007, 11:24 AM
And let's not forget; Scott Steiner's body is also because of hard work and dedication. ;)

sportsfan77
02-02-2007, 11:43 AM
im having trouble getting the mod download to work help

raynefall007
02-02-2007, 11:57 AM
I'm simply saying that Hogan has admitted to using the juice during the steroid trials, during his WWF tenure.

That picture proves nothing. There's no distinctive signs of steroid use (hair loss, acne on the body, etc.) shown to really make it obvious.

It would be unfair to make him a steroid user in the scenario if he didn't start using the juice until, like 1985 or something.

BTW - Snuka barely made it to May of 1983 in my WWE scenario. On the same day, he turned in his notice for retirement and also died.

D. Boon's Ghost
02-02-2007, 11:57 AM
im having trouble getting the mod download to work help

Some browsers have difficulty with the ActiveX content of the flash buttons on that site. Try this (http://cyclopsltd.net/files/TEWDOTT.exe); should work for you.

Dolfanar
02-02-2007, 12:09 PM
There is one thing to keep in mind in terms of steroid usage in the USA... it wasn't always illegal.

As for TEW and DOTT I think some of the Steroid/Drug users in the game should have their check marks removed if that drug/steroid use wasn't a significant factor in their career. For instance I tknow Snuka was into EVERYTHING but the guy is STILL going strong whereas I've yet to see a report of him lasting more than a couple years in DOTT. YMMV & IMOHO

D. Boon's Ghost
02-02-2007, 12:27 PM
Yeah - the drug and steroid checks stink. But only when a favorite wrestler of mine drops dead. :)

Considering there is no 'drugged out walking corpse for two years' check, it's all or nothing.
Now... I will remove Snuka's steroid check - as that has only been whispered about over the years. But drugs? They most assuredly effected his work.

I strongly suggest checking out Snuka's history from '81-84. That guy was a complete mess; fired from various feds, bookers so worried that they assigned Gene Anderson in MACW and then Buddy Rogers in MACW and WWF as Snuka's handler just to make sure that Snuka would show up, the shady deal with the death of one of his female companions, the kayfabed story of Piper breaking Snuka's neck to cover Superfly's Rehab, etc.

I just don't see how he cannot have a drug user check.

MulkeyMania
02-02-2007, 12:29 PM
D. Boon,

great stuff. just getting into playing. i saw the gaem from pickledmidget. he says that he has talked to you about wrestling and this game.

cant wait to start playing. any hints to getting a first game up and running?

i remember everyone from that era so matching up wrestlers shouldnt be a problem. is there any guides written for the TEW2007 for getting started?

anyway, thanks. the DOTT is awesome stuff. im reliving the good days, the glory days!

sportsfan77
02-02-2007, 12:40 PM
when i open the gds area where do i save the file

raynefall007
02-02-2007, 01:09 PM
Best thing to do is go to the Data folder in the GDS directory and create a new folder called DOTT (there is already a default folder there for the Cornellverse). Then save everything in the DOTT folder.

teakle
02-02-2007, 02:44 PM
First off, may I add my thanks for creating such a fantastic mod. yet again. I can only imagine the amount of time and dedication that it takes to bring this out and at such a consistently high quality.

That being said, I'll start picking faults now ;)

Actually, I've only noticed one problem with the data, which I suspect is an oversight. Mad Dog Vachon is set to have 100% physical stats, which as a 53 year old is either an error or signs of imortality!

Acenate Prophet
02-02-2007, 02:55 PM
I'm all excited to play this but don't want to get too invested if there is an update coming out real soon. Is there any timetable on when these little tweaks are going to be released, or have you been discreetly updating the file?

Also, I know there was some talk about it, has anyone started work on an even more comprehensive future workers file? I noticed that there probably aren't enough female workers in the list in the preview thread to get a women's fed going.

D. Boon's Ghost
02-02-2007, 02:57 PM
... Actually, I've only noticed one problem with the data, which I suspect is an oversight. Mad Dog Vachon is set to have 100% physical stats, which as a 53 year old is either an error or signs of imortality!

Oversight? Hah! Mad Dog is immortal! :)

Thanks for that, teakle. Corrected for the update.

Dolfanar
02-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Yeah - the drug and steroid checks stink. But only when a favorite wrestler of mine drops dead. :)

Considering there is no 'drugged out walking corpse for two years' check, it's all or nothing.
Now... I will remove Snuka's steroid check - as that has only been whispered about over the years. But drugs? They most assuredly effected his work.

I strongly suggest checking out Snuka's history from '81-84. That guy was a complete mess; fired from various feds, bookers so worried that they assigned Gene Anderson in MACW and then Buddy Rogers in MACW and WWF as Snuka's handler just to make sure that Snuka would show up, the shady deal with the death of one of his female companions, the kayfabed story of Piper breaking Snuka's neck to cover Superfly's Rehab, etc.

I just don't see how he cannot have a drug user check.

The thing is (And I could be wrong) from what I've seen the drug user check doesn't make someone more likely to be unpredictable and whatnot... the major impact is that it makes the worker more likely to be dead. Ditto for Steroid use (which is why the Hogan thing brought this up).

Hell, even Ricky Steamboat (widely regarded as one of the most squeaky clean workers in history) has admitted to using steroids AND speed in a shoot interview. Something to think about...

D. Boon's Ghost
02-02-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm all excited to play this but don't want to get too invested if there is an update coming out real soon. Is there any timetable on when these little tweaks are going to be released, or have you been discreetly updating the file?

Also, I know there was some talk about it, has anyone started work on an even more comprehensive future workers file? I noticed that there probably aren't enough female workers in the list in the preview thread to get a women's fed going.

Sorry to take up two posts in a row, rather than add this quote to my last, but... meh.


Here's what I have done so far, though I haven't released it here quite yet:

* I tweaked out/corrected a few wrestlers
* Added a couple of worker relationships (mainly for Black Angus)
* Scottish Championship Wrestling as a New Fed
* Completed all gimmicks - Finally! I couldn't con any of the Cyclops Gang to take this foul file off my hands, so I just finished it myself - heh
* Dolfanar's Mid Atlantic locations
* Added/Tweaked starting momentum for several feds

------

Dolfanar is chugging away on those era-specific venues. I figure I'll hold off until another chunk is done before releasing anything to GDS.

raynefall007
02-02-2007, 03:18 PM
The only other thing I could mentioned is about some of the storylines.

For example, in using the $5000 bodyslam challenge, I believe it is the fourth stage where you begin to have problems.

I had to book a particular angle with the four participants being in certain scenarios, yet could not find an angle to match it.

I also used the classic Vinnie Mac, Sr. #1 (I think) storyline and found that in one area I had to use the "Worker has other one's fam deed" angle just to get it to work. It did, but was out of place with the rest of the angle. It was supposed to be the SubVillan bragging about mauling the Little Buddy, but turned into the farm deed thing because there wasn't another reveal angle that matched the positions that I needed to finish the storyline.

D. Boon's Ghost
02-02-2007, 03:28 PM
Both fixed.

The second storyline in question, by the way, was 'The Villain's Revenge'; it is meant to be Sub-Villain as a Surprise and the Little Buddy as Subject.

*grumble* I thought I went through every plot-point of every storyline to make sure these errors wouldn't pop up. In the sheer number I obviously missed some.

Apologies! :)

Slim Jim
02-02-2007, 03:37 PM
Really enjoying struggling with my created local fed. This is still the greatest TEW mod around, and with all the new features for 07 has simply grown into something more spectacular.

I took the liberty of posting the link to your site and the links to the music and screens on another site. Gotta share the love, ya know?

raynefall007
02-02-2007, 04:14 PM
Both fixed.

The second storyline in question, by the way, was 'The Villain's Revenge'; it is meant to be Sub-Villain as a Surprise and the Little Buddy as Subject.

*grumble* I thought I went through every plot-point of every storyline to make sure these errors wouldn't pop up. In the sheer number I obviously missed some.

Apologies! :)

No worries, just trying to help fix whatever minor glitches I happen to find. :D

Harmor
02-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Some guy, TEWFan I think it was, said he was going to make some of the pics that were missing in the 1.0 version .. have they been released yet? I'm asking cause I might have overlooked it (forums are fairly busy..).

Johnny Fenoli
02-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Some guy, TEWFan I think it was, said he was going to make some of the pics that were missing in the 1.0 version .. have they been released yet? I'm asking cause I might have overlooked it (forums are fairly busy..).



Any idea D Boon on when you're gonna release a version with the minor fixes and the missing pics (which I've found alot of them in the folder, just not the correct path to the profile)?

After playing the game as two different promotions every day since the release, I'm ready to give my rating...

By far the best mod I've played ever on the EWR/TEW series... only downsides, the incomplete locations file, and the poor ratings that promotions get from time to time, usually when promoting out of their territory. It's amazing how the WWF goes after Hogan, Piper, Steamboat and the like. One of my favorite moments was after the first day, and the Crockett cup took place, and they actually ran a tag team tournament, I almost shed a tear. Couple of my least favorite parts was when Houston Championship Wrestling held it's major Show of the month at a High School in New York, nothing you can do about that though huh? The other being when Terry Gordy repeatedly told MACW that they weren't big enough for him to sign with, and I already had Buddy Jack and PS.... So, my final score... it's a 9.5/10.

Great Job D. Boon, I bow before thee!

Oh, and whoever did the screens and stuff... that is like looking at the sixtenneth chapel, every time I play. Great JOB!!!!


Very Happily,
Johnny "5 Count" Fenoli

djthefunkchris
02-02-2007, 06:32 PM
Oh, and whoever did the screens and stuff... that is like looking at the sixtenneth chapel, every time I play. Great JOB!!!!


Very Happily,
Johnny "5 Count" Fenoli


Hmm, Wonder who that was? Probably someone nobody knows about... Too bad, I thought it was pretty good myself. Although I never could get into the sixtenneth chapel, however the Sixteenth Chapel is amazing.

King Fenoli, you know you done a great job with that stuff, we all appreciate it for sure! I honestly think you like that music though, lol.

Goldenskillz
02-02-2007, 06:42 PM
With regards to the Crockett Cup thing, i had to start over a few times after i got a few days in an realised i had forgot to do stuff to my madr up promotion in the ditor.

I started a new game about 3 times cuz of this and i have done about 3 other games, but all 6 of the Crockett Cup's has been held by Ric Flair and a completly diffrent partner each time.

I like the fact that no matter what they just have to have Flair as one of the tornie holders.

tommytomlin
02-02-2007, 07:08 PM
Hmm, Wonder who that was? Probably someone nobody knows about... Too bad, I thought it was pretty good myself. Although I never could get into the sixtenneth chapel, however the Sixteenth Chapel is amazing

Fourteen... Fifteen.... Sistine.... Seventeen?

TEWFan
02-02-2007, 07:25 PM
I have done new cuts for Pedro Morales, Carlos Colon, Bruno Sammartino and Miguel Perez Sr(who had the wrong pic). I was wondering if someone could be helpful and made a list of the wrestlers with missing pictures so I can do them and release a pack. Only wrestlers or important managers/personalities. I am sure most of the ref's and staff cant be found anywhere. I suppose you can post here the ones you find, but please, make it 5-10 names per post, dont make a post to report just one person.

Thanks, the sooner I get a good list, the sooner the new pack comes out.

djthefunkchris
02-02-2007, 07:47 PM
Fourteen... Fifteen.... Sistine.... Seventeen?

lol

Vladamire Dracos
02-02-2007, 07:55 PM
I was wondering if someone could be helpful and made a list of the wrestlers with missing pictures so I can do them and release a pack. Only wrestlers or important managers/personalities. I am sure most of the ref's and staff cant be found anywhere. I suppose you can post here the ones you find, but please, make it 5-10 names per post, dont make a post to report just one person.

Thanks, the sooner I get a good list, the sooner the new pack comes out.

Off the top of my head from my PNW game:
Len Denton (AKA The Grappler)
Steve Strong
Sheik Abdullah Ali Hassan
Mean Mike Miller

tristram
02-02-2007, 08:43 PM
All I can say is, fantastic. F'n fantastic.

Great work, thanks to everyone involved. I've been waiting to trial this before I decide whether to buy TEW07 or not. This mod is the clincher, it was in TEW05, before playing the mod I was interested but sceptical about putting the hard earned on it, but once I'd play DOTT it was inevitable what was going to happen. Ching ching, ching ching.

DBG, a genius, and a great shooter, nudge nudge in reference to another post of yours elsewhere. Dead on the mark.

TEWFan
02-02-2007, 08:51 PM
Bruno Sammartino: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_BrunoSammartino.jpg

Carlos Colon: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_CarlosColon-1.jpg

Len Denton: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_LenDenton.jpg

Miguel Perez Sr: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_MiguelPerezSr.jpg

"Mean" Mike Miller: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_MikeMiller.jpg

Pedro Morales: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_PedroMorales.jpg

Sheik Abdullah Ali Hassan: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_SheikAbdullahAliHassan.jpg

Steve Strong: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_stevestrong.jpg

Tatsumi Fujinami: http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/TEWFan/th_TatsumiFujinami.jpg

This are all I have done so far. As you can see, I am not the best cutter in the world, but at least I am trying. Also, some of this pics seemed to be from magazine and newspaper scans, so the quality is not the best.

Undertaker666
02-02-2007, 09:03 PM
I was wondering if someone could be helpful and made a list of the wrestlers with missing pictures so I can do them and release a pack

If you go into Editor/ Edit Database / Workers, then click on Filter and tick the "Has no picture button". All workers with no pictures will then appear on the right. :)

Anubis
02-02-2007, 09:31 PM
I think there may be a problem with the data.

I am playing as MACW, and Bob Orton Jr. refused to negotiate with me, claiming we're not a big enough promotion. Oh, and WWF isn't even offering him anything, so it's not an issue with competing with a "bigger" company.

This may be a bug, which I reported (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21136), but it may also be a problem with the data (which unfortunately is more likely). If I am unable to renew this guy's contract, I have no chance whatsoever of hiring Harley Race for the "Flair for the Gold" storyline, and probably even smaller chances of being able to renew Ric Flair's contract when it's up. Basically, as it is, there's no way to simulate anything that happened back then, as I'm close to getting reduced to using the crap workers (which would cause me to start bleeding popularity profusely).

I would suggest that maybe all the popularity ratings for dang near everyone might need to be lowered across the board to simulate the territories better.

Johnny Fenoli
02-02-2007, 10:32 PM
I just had my first TEW mark out moment, lol

Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes in a 45 minute draw got me my first A+ rating.

Had to share sorry.

Oh and tewfan, no offense, but those pics dont look to hot. You dont have to cut them, none of the other DOTT are "cuts".

D. Boon's Ghost
02-03-2007, 12:14 AM
I am playing as MACW, and Bob Orton Jr. refused to negotiate with me, claiming we're not a big enough promotion. Oh, and WWF isn't even offering him anything, so it's not an issue with competing with a "bigger" company.

This one I really do not understand. I am pretty sure I signed Orton during a test game with World Class.

Let me try it again.

If I am unable to renew this guy's contract, I have no chance whatsoever of hiring Harley Race for the "Flair for the Gold" storyline, and probably even smaller chances of being able to renew Ric Flair's contract when it's up. Basically, as it is, there's no way to simulate anything that happened back then, as I'm close to getting reduced to using the crap workers (which would cause me to start bleeding popularity profusely).

I would suggest that maybe all the popularity ratings for dang near everyone might need to be lowered across the board to simulate the territories better.

I don't know. I could probably shave 5-10% off the top rung guys, but that really starts removing flavor from the data.

Taking Flair and Orton as examples: Flair averages 75% across the US - Orton averages between 45-50%. It seems to me that lowering Flair would risk making him redundant. After all, Flair might be superior to Orton in certain areas - but Orton's 15-20% popularity difference makes him a heck of a lot more attractive when faced with a decision between the two.

I think a better alternative might be to raise MACW to Cult. The logic being that because Crockett now controls the NWA Champion, MACW would be the NWA head honcho.


There is always going to be inherent quirks in data meant to represent an era that the actual game mechanics are not based around. But I am playing a World Class game when this machine allows it and am recreating the era quite nicely. :)

Let's see how raising MACW a level does.

bjo313
02-03-2007, 12:25 AM
I think there may be a problem with the data.

I am playing as MACW, and Bob Orton Jr. refused to negotiate with me, claiming we're not a big enough promotion. Oh, and WWF isn't even offering him anything, so it's not an issue with competing with a "bigger" company.

This may be a bug, which I reported (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21136), but it may also be a problem with the data (which unfortunately is more likely). If I am unable to renew this guy's contract, I have no chance whatsoever of hiring Harley Race for the "Flair for the Gold" storyline, and probably even smaller chances of being able to renew Ric Flair's contract when it's up. Basically, as it is, there's no way to simulate anything that happened back then, as I'm close to getting reduced to using the crap workers (which would cause me to start bleeding popularity profusely).

I would suggest that maybe all the popularity ratings for dang near everyone might need to be lowered across the board to simulate the territories better.

i'm MACW and Bob Orton Jr resigned with me no problem.

D16NJD16
02-03-2007, 01:01 AM
D.Boon when you do the update, can you manually list the things changed? I'm already involved in a saveg game and im going to update it manually myself.

Anubis
02-03-2007, 01:19 AM
So other people can do it, but I can't. Not sure how that is happening. I've been steadily raising in popularity everywhere but my home area (which has only gone down 1%, not even a letter grade), and the promotion is still more popular than Orton. He's also been getting a decent push as he's in one of my main storylines. I even just got a national television slot in hopes of breaking to Cult level within a few weeks since I'm like 2% away in the South East. I just hope I can raise up in time to get Harley Race for the Flair for the Gold storyline, I wanna actually run that whole storyline in the actual time period (Race won the belt the second week of June in history, so I have one month to get it up).

The only good news is that Ric Flair still has like 15 months left on his contract, so that's how long I have to get big enough to keep him.

bjo313
02-03-2007, 01:26 AM
So other people can do it, but I can't. Not sure how that is happening. I've been steadily raising in popularity everywhere but my home area (which has only gone down 1%, not even a letter grade), and the promotion is still more popular than Orton. He's also been getting a decent push as he's in one of my main storylines. I even just got a national television slot in hopes of breaking to Cult level within a few weeks since I'm like 2% away in the South East. I just hope I can raise up in time to get Harley Race for the Flair for the Gold storyline, I wanna actually run that whole storyline in the actual time period (Race won the belt the second week of June in history, so I have one month to get it up).

The only good news is that Ric Flair still has like 15 months left on his contract, so that's how long I have to get big enough to keep him.

That might be it, I moved up cult rather early. So I was already there when he resigned. That's probably the problem.

Anubis
02-03-2007, 02:52 AM
By the way, not sure if this has been mentioned, but the Mid-Atlantic/NWA Television Title was overlooked in the data.

teakle
02-03-2007, 05:01 AM
That might be it, I moved up cult rather early. So I was already there when he resigned. That's probably the problem.

That's what I thought as well and, arguably more importantly :) , Adam's confirmed this in the bugs thread.

I can see Anubis' point; to a degree. It is a bit silly that a wrestler of Orton's level will refuse to sign with the second or third biggest promotion in the US. I think it's a quirk of the game engine, which was designed around the CV and always having more than 1 US promotion above Cult level. It might be more sensisble for the code to look at relative sizes of promotions and decide whether or not the promotion is big enough instead.

However, that being said, I think the data works perfectly as it is. It creates a simple and inthralling race towards Cult. WWF are already there, but the AWA and MACW are sniffing on it's heals. Once one or both get there, then they can compete with the WWF and then it becomes an almighty race to reach National when you can really hit the others hard.

Grimmas
02-03-2007, 01:19 PM
Blue Panther's info is not entered into his contract with CMLL. He has no picture there or finishers, etc...

D. Boon's Ghost
02-03-2007, 01:34 PM
Blue Panther's info is not entered into his contract with CMLL. He has no picture there or finishers, etc...

Thanks, Grimmas. Fixed.

For anyone interested, I am listing out all changes for the upcoming Update at the bottom of the title post in this thread.

Grimmas
02-03-2007, 05:34 PM
Awesome! I am so getting ready to play my CMLL game. Just making sure I get everything fixed up before hand.

When will the update be up?

Crychon
02-03-2007, 06:04 PM
Ah, finally had my first buyout as the WWF in August 1983. Didn't really care if the WWA was in business, but I bought them out because I could.

This mod rules by the way, great work D. Boon!

Vladamire Dracos
02-03-2007, 06:20 PM
Blue Panther's info is not entered into his contract with CMLL. He has no picture there or finishers, etc...

I mentioned this before, but DBG might have missed it when I posted it earlier in this thread. Don Running Bear's PNW contract is missing at least his bio too (it's actually been like that since at least TEW '05 IIRC ;)).

D. Boon's Ghost
02-03-2007, 06:59 PM
I mentioned this before, but DBG might have missed it when I posted it earlier in this thread. Don Running Bear's PNW contract is missing at least his bio too (it's actually been like that since at least TEW '05 IIRC ;)).

I move verrrrry slowly, Vlad. ;)

I did miss that; thanks! And fixed.

TsuMirren
02-03-2007, 07:53 PM
"By the way, not sure if this has been mentioned, but the Mid-Atlantic/NWA Television Title was overlooked in the data."

Oh, don't you worry your pretty little head about that...it's been mentioned, discussed, disected, poked, prodded at, turned over, slapped around, tickled, cajouled and had it's name changed to Rita during the testing phase. The final decision, after weeks of discussion and 3,823 crackers and butter, was that it was a belt too much and that the MA Heavyweight's status and possible problems with belt holders meant the TV title would cause more problems than it's worth. Of course, there were 800 pages of discussion after that so I could be wrong. :)

D. Boon's Ghost
02-03-2007, 10:17 PM
:D

That sounds about right, Tsu. All of it, as a matter of fact.

bjo313
02-03-2007, 11:53 PM
i wasn't even alive in 1983.

i love this mod. i've never had so much fun with this game 'til DOTT for '07.

currently racing against wwf and awa to get national. with 2 tv shows.. i hope i'll win :)

angeldelayette
02-04-2007, 01:15 AM
I just made my purchase of TEW 07 and of course the website that this file is on is down! BOO!

Anyway, even before playing it, I want to thank D. Boon and everyone who worked on this scenario. I've always been a huge fan of D.O.T.T. and probably always will be.

djthefunkchris
02-04-2007, 03:09 AM
The sight shouldn't be down long, it's a maintenance thing going on. I think BobINC has the files though, on his sight.

D16NJD16
02-04-2007, 03:27 AM
Anyway, even before playing it, I want to thank D. Boon and everyone who worked on this scenario. I've always been a huge fan of D.O.T.T. and probably always will be.

Well yeah, maybe until DOTT 2025 when D. Boon is too old to cut it anymore, and has to turn the mod making duties over to his right hand man, The Gaz.

Anubis
02-04-2007, 06:17 AM
"By the way, not sure if this has been mentioned, but the Mid-Atlantic/NWA Television Title was overlooked in the data."

Oh, don't you worry your pretty little head about that...it's been mentioned, discussed, disected, poked, prodded at, turned over, slapped around, tickled, cajouled and had it's name changed to Rita during the testing phase. The final decision, after weeks of discussion and 3,823 crackers and butter, was that it was a belt too much and that the MA Heavyweight's status and possible problems with belt holders meant the TV title would cause more problems than it's worth. Of course, there were 800 pages of discussion after that so I could be wrong. :)

Hmmm, yeah, I noticed that there were quite a few Championships in MACW. Too many, in fact, for my roster size. Still, I did create the Mid-Atlantic Television Title anyway, hahaha! Once I hit Cult or maybe once I buy out some other promotions, though, I plan on unifying the Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Title with the NWA World Heavyweight Title, as well as the Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Titles with the NWA World Tag Team Titles.

Biggest problem is the lack of tag teams, really. My roster is already about a dozen workers too big, and I still only have like six tag teams now that I've lost Orton, Piper, and Steamboat and fired Rufus for being a useless hack. I have Jimmy Valiant and Bugsy McGraw with the Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Titles and Jay Youngblood and Wahoo McDaniel with the NWA World Tag Team Titles.

Anyway, yeah, I did notice the abundance of Championships. I was just curious is all.

Dolfanar
02-04-2007, 11:20 AM
:D

That sounds about right, Tsu. All of it, as a matter of fact.

Yeah about that... next time someone wants to call me Rita... there better atleast be dinner involved first.

TsuMirren
02-04-2007, 01:30 PM
The Rita part is a Manic Street Preachers reference..."The pardony who whats?" say the Americans among us. haha

Dolfanar
02-04-2007, 06:43 PM
The Rita part is a Manic Street Preachers reference..."The pardony who whats?" say the Americans among us. haha

I get it. I get things :p

Anubis
02-04-2007, 09:15 PM
WHOA! WAIT A SEC!

I was doing my normal stuff in DOTT, and when I pressed "Next Day", I saw an interesting profile.

Ted

It looked really weird, and the bio was weird as well, so I did a "Quick Find Worker" and checked out his profile.

A wrestling bear. A really momma freakin' bear. An actual bear with stats, with decent Brawling and an A in Looks. Seriously, did I find some sort of freaking hilarious Easter Egg in the data or something?



W

T

F

Anyway, this is the only other thing I could think of when posting this:

djthefunkchris
02-04-2007, 09:40 PM
Ahh, Well... You keep looking around and I'm sure that's not going to be the only surprise... What Might surprise you though, is that I remember times when these animals did sometimes get to be part of the show (Gimmicky stuff). So you can either stay clear of these things, or you can utilize them, or.... You can realise that the MOD maker has a very good scense of humor... So don't get scared when you see the other umm... Shall we say other then Human specimens in the MOD.

Pluss, Your talking about a guy that was able to point out that he had just added "Lee Wong from Hong Kong" into the new worker files... I don't know if I would have made that exact connection untill I seen it. He has a refreshing scense of humor... and a bad taste in woman, lol.

Anubis
02-04-2007, 09:50 PM
Ahh, Well... You keep looking around and I'm sure that's not going to be the only surprise... What Might surprise you though, is that I remember times when these animals did sometimes get to be part of the show (Gimmicky stuff). So you can either stay clear of these things, or you can utilize them, or.... You can realise that the MOD maker has a very good scense of humor... So don't get scared when you see the other umm... Shall we say other then Human specimens in the MOD.

Pluss, Your talking about a guy that was able to point out that he had just added "Lee Wong from Hong Kong" into the new worker files... I don't know if I would have made that exact connection untill I seen it. He has a refreshing scense of humor... and a bad taste in woman, lol.

Um, all that went right over my head. Did I miss something? Mind you I was born in 1980, if that makes a difference.

djthefunkchris
02-04-2007, 09:58 PM
Um, all that went right over my head. Did I miss something? Mind you I was born in 1980, if that makes a difference.

D. Boon's Ghost has a great scense of humor, is all I'm saying. Don't be shocked to find silly things like that in there to spice it up a bit. Ted is probably a bear that was used on some gimmicky angle, Bear wrestle's Human kind of thing.

I remember various things like that back then. They probably still do stuff like this sometimes, but I believe they used to dull their teeth and cut off their claws. It might be something that can't be done today because of humane issue's.

Vladamire Dracos
02-04-2007, 10:06 PM
WHOA! WAIT A SEC!

I was doing my normal stuff in DOTT, and when I pressed "Next Day", I saw an interesting profile.

Ted

It looked really weird, and the bio was weird as well, so I did a "Quick Find Worker" and checked out his profile.

A wrestling bear. A really momma freakin' bear. An actual bear with stats, with decent Brawling and an A in Looks. Seriously, did I find some sort of freaking hilarious Easter Egg in the data or something?



W

T

F

Anyway, this is the only other thing I could think of when posting this:

Ted! That was the wrestling bear's name! I couldn't remember. :p Back in the old days promoters would spice up events with Man vs. Bear or Womens matches to attract marks in.

The Destroyer vs. Victor the Bear. (http://www.thedestroyer.com/real/TheDest.rm)
Doctor X vs. Victor the Bear (http://www.thedestroyer.com/real/TheDoc.rm)
Both from The Intelligent Sensational Destroyer's homepage: http://www.thedestroyer.com/ enjoy!

Anubis
02-04-2007, 11:00 PM
o i c wut they did thur

That's a person in a bear costume!

Caninrok
02-04-2007, 11:13 PM
OK, first - Thanks for all the hard work on this great mod!

Second, I've found another error in a storyline I assumed you'd want to know about. In the DOTT - APT PUPIL storyline the first plot point is described as being a tag match won by the Mentor and Pupil. However, the plot point actually expects a one on one match won by the Mentor.

Vladamire Dracos
02-04-2007, 11:31 PM
o i c wut they did thur

That's a person in a bear costume!

... I hope that was a joke...

djthefunkchris
02-05-2007, 12:38 AM
o i c wut they did thur

That's a person in a bear costume!

Not sure if your joking or not, but no... That's really a bear.

Anubis
02-05-2007, 12:48 AM
It doesn't look like a bear or move like a bear. I just don't see a bear being able to be trained that well.

I do think it's a person in a costume. It just doesn't look real.

djthefunkchris
02-05-2007, 01:10 AM
It doesn't look like a bear or move like a bear. I just don't see a bear being able to be trained that well.

I do think it's a person in a costume. It just doesn't look real.

How many bears have you seen to compare it too?
Bear's can be trained similar to dogs. They are able to grapple like a human, because their arms are able to stretch out to the sides.

The bear in the video has a muzzle on him, to keep him from being able to bite the wrestler. Also, like I said, they declaw'ed them back then. The guy in the first video (and the bear for that matter) is the same one in the second one as well. Also giving the commentary. He keeps talking about not letting a finger get under that muzzle (guard, or whatever he called it) because finger's tend to come up missing. Now, I have no idea if anyone has lost a finger that way, but I'm sure it's not something to test.

I was alive and well when it was done. I even believe they had something like that on Wide World of Sports (a popular TV Show back then, "...and the Agony of Defeat!", at which point you would see a person on ski's do one horrible accident).

Also a Dog could talk, He/she would say "I love you" in a real whiny high pitch voice (the dogs whine voice), pretty clearly. Never heard him say anything else though, lol.

I find it Amazing that you think that's a human dressed up like a bear.. did you really look at the bear's eyes or any of the other tell tell signs?

Well, Here is a link of the same bear you just watched, hopefully this will help your confusion... Also, the guy with the headlock on him is the one and only Billy Graham baby! (Bassically the guy Hulk Hogan modelled himself out of) http://homepage.mac.com/viktor2/btw/Terrible%20Ted.html

MiddleGA
02-05-2007, 01:54 AM
Well, Here is a link of the same bear you just watched, hopefully this will help your confusion

Wrestling bears have been around probably about as long as pro wrestling itself. Although it's not my sort of booking, I thought it was a very nice touch for DBG to include Ted, who seems to be one of the most famous or maybe the most famous (since he's in DOTT, how could he miss? ;) )

In case anybody still has some doubts:

Ted is also mentioned several times in Jody Hamilton's book
http://www.1wrestlinglegends.com/crowbarpress/assassin/chapters.htm

Ted was the first (but not only) bear owned by Canadian indy promoter Dave McKigney, who died in the same car crash that claimed the life of Adrian Adonis & Pat Kelly.
http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestling/mckigney.html

And, assuming this is the same Ted, apparently lived with Bret Hart at one point.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Hitman/2004/04/17/426674.html

What did surprise me a little though was to discover that there are still some bear wrestlers around today.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1753310

D16NJD16
02-05-2007, 02:02 AM
Obviously not a real bear (The Destroyer Vid) What an odd concept though.

Anubis
02-05-2007, 02:14 AM
Yeah, I'm not saying bear wrestling never happened, but in those videos, it just didn't look like a real bear. It even had pro wrestler mannerisms, such as when it was in the rest hold with its head near Destroyer's ear (looked like consulting about the next spot or something), or when it drank that soda (didn't look bear-like at all, more like Stone Cold Steve Austin with a beer hahaha).

As for the story of Ted tearing down the door and killing its owner's girlfriend, I'm almost entirely certain the bear would have been put down for that, as happens when an animal kills an innocent person in all the cases I have heard of over the years (especially with bears and dogs).

That particular "bear" just doesn't look real, it looks silly, heh. The ones in the videos at least. Can't say anything about any other instances, of course.

djthefunkchris
02-05-2007, 02:33 AM
Real Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bC_0R6q_kA

Real Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc3OVAbtTL8

Real Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPftH9qVH4A

Real Scarry Bear (not as trained) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76KhO4f-UGY

Real Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wbT3GiHqFU

Real Bear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BIVy7g0X8

And thats it for me tonight, if you guys don't get it, then so be it, lol.