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michael1234_uk
05-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Dunno if these has been mentioned before but will there be rankings in the game?
Like you can have a ranking for promotion based on size,money,fighters draw etc
and a ranking for fighters in each weight based on their record,drawing ability and their last few matches in each promotion and overall.
I think this would be really useful especially if you want to see how your fighters recent results have been and if it is worth giving them a shot at a title and who the best fighters are in other promotions.

Also will there it be possible to have TV shows for promotion like UFC has Ultimate Fighter which they can use to promote upcoming events and also to use to find new talent by holding a tournament.

Also will the editor be released ahead of the game so that people who want to create their own mods cos do so and have it available for the general release of the game?Just curious.

michael1234_uk
05-21-2007, 04:15 PM
ignore the bit about the editor

Capelli King
05-21-2007, 07:17 PM
The editor will be out about a week beforehand. Like TEW. I would like it out at least 2 weeks before, but that is me.

I like the idea about the rankings. It was brought up before and Adam has not answered the question on that. I guess the big question there would be how the computer would rank the fighters.

I really like the Ultimate Fighter idea (also metioned before). It would be a great way to try out new young talent without seroiusly damaging the ratings even if they are not that good as people expect to see mainly young raw talent with limited maybe experience but allot of talent, desire and passion. I hope that option will be included also although like the ratings we have not got an official reply from Adam yet.

This feature is however one which exists in real life and as Adam said "reality" is his target.

TylerDrew
05-21-2007, 08:33 PM
I would say the best way to have the computer rank fighters would be to bring back the websites feature. Different sites would use different formulas like:

Site A: Draw Rating + Ko/Sub + (Wins - Losses)

Site B: Win % + Combined Opponent Win %

This way each site would have its own unique feel.

Capelli King
05-21-2007, 10:28 PM
I would say the best way to have the computer rank fighters would be to bring back the websites feature. Different sites would use different formulas like:

Site A: Draw Rating + Ko/Sub + (Wins - Losses)

Site B: Win % + Combined Opponent Win %

This way each site would have its own unique feel.

Actually that is a pretty good idea. As in reality there is no actual "ratings or ranking" like there is in lets say boxing.

There could simply be 2-3 recognised websites which have how they rank the best in the business. Of corse they will or at least should have a pretty similar ranking system. In other words one site should not someone at #1 and the other has the same guy at #32 for example.

There is one problem. What if you run a small promotion, with unknown talent? Maybe guys which have not fought could be unranked.


If this does happen i would like that next to the fighters names there will be infomation as to where they are currently working.

Well either way i like this option maybe more than having an "official listing", it gives the site feature a totally new dimention and importance.

y2trav
05-22-2007, 07:24 AM
Actually that is a pretty good idea. As in reality there is no actual "ratings or ranking" like there is in lets say boxing.

There could simply be 2-3 recognised websites which have how they rank the best in the business. Of corse they will or at least should have a pretty similar ranking system. In other words one site should not someone at #1 and the other has the same guy at #32 for example.

There is one problem. What if you run a small promotion, with unknown talent? Maybe guys which have not fought could be unranked.


If this does happen i would like that next to the fighters names there will be infomation as to where they are currently working.

Well either way i like this option maybe more than having an "official listing", it gives the site feature a totally new dimention and importance.

if they are unknown, then chances are they would be fighting unknown competion....someone like that i dont see being ranked anyway.

Capelli King
05-22-2007, 03:35 PM
Yeah i have already stated that.

RepoMantaur
05-22-2007, 06:22 PM
i cant imagine theyre NOT being an overall ranking for each fighter in the game, it may be nice to have a promotion specific ranking that you can controll, but that may not have much use

TylerDrew
05-22-2007, 07:58 PM
As far as interpromotional rankings it could basically use the same formula based on what type of promotion you ran to determine contenders, you would then get bonuses for matching fights that "make sense" in the rankings and matches that were a guy being fed a "can" would incure some small penalties.(Can't be too much though as every promotion does this to a point.)

asdfx3
05-22-2007, 10:51 PM
i cant imagine theyre NOT being an overall ranking for each fighter in the game, it may be nice to have a promotion specific ranking that you can controll, but that may not have much use
It could be cool to have one because it make your promotion appeal more to the pure-sport crowd (that shun the idea of pro-wrestling style theatrics and background stories), while making it your potential matches more limited (no #1 vs #15 fights could be justified, no matter the amount of hype), especially in the case of injury shortly before a fight.

y2trav
05-23-2007, 07:52 AM
It could be cool to have one because it make your promotion appeal more to the pure-sport crowd (that shun the idea of pro-wrestling style theatrics and background stories), while making it your potential matches more limited (no #1 vs #15 fights could be justified, no matter the amount of hype), especially in the case of injury shortly before a fight.

i agree with the no 1 vs 15, unless the number 15 wins(serra/gsp comes to mind). you have to throw guys inthere with the best sometimes to see what happens. gonzaga/crocop is another good example, NO ONE had GG in their to 10 when they fought.

Capelli King
05-23-2007, 08:04 AM
I do not know but i would like to see some type of rating system because:

1) To help with the booking
2) To undertand who is on form
3) To help with signing of talent

It generally is a good guideline

badbeat
05-28-2007, 07:08 AM
Actually that is a pretty good idea. As in reality there is no actual "ratings or ranking" like there is in lets say boxing.

There could simply be 2-3 recognised websites which have how they rank the best in the business. Of corse they will or at least should have a pretty similar ranking system. In other words one site should not someone at #1 and the other has the same guy at #32 for example.

There is one problem. What if you run a small promotion, with unknown talent? Maybe guys which have not fought could be unranked.


If this does happen i would like that next to the fighters names there will be infomation as to where they are currently working.

Well either way i like this option maybe more than having an "official listing", it gives the site feature a totally new dimention and importance.


There are actually widely debated rankings... some guys came up with some kind of computer/math calculated ranking, then u have mmaweekly.com rankings which I dont know why but they are the most widely used rankings..even tho they are horrible quite often lol....

Nice idea to have a few websites with their rankings...kinda like looking at the Coaches or AP ranking in Bowl Bound.

asdfx3
05-28-2007, 10:31 PM
i agree with the no 1 vs 15, unless the number 15 wins(serra/gsp comes to mind). you have to throw guys inthere with the best sometimes to see what happens. gonzaga/crocop is another good example, NO ONE had GG in their to 10 when they fought.
Yeah, that's another downfall to having a ranking system drive your matchmaking. A fighter can always work their way up, but a lot of exciting upsets and huge jumps in public perception (Serra, H. Alexander, Soko, Gonzaga, etc) wouldn't be possible and it would take at least a year to get a fighter accepted as a contender when he had the potential from the start.

I think this would be a great feature because it's such a double edged sword. No one would see a fight as lopsided or a challenger unworthy, thus increasing interest in the fights, but it makes it so much harder to keep booking these matches because you need plenty of fighters and are forced to follow the ranking system.