World of Wrestling (WIP)

[SHaynes23]

Nobody has really conquered the mountain that is a complete current day mod on Wrestling Spirit 2 yet, I made a dent in it before, but a couple of factors stopped me from completing it. But now I'm coming back for attempt number two at this, and I'm coming at it alot more prepared than last time, because I think Wrestling Spirit 2 is a great game, and a complete current day mod would show a greater number of people how good this game really is.

I'm going about this different than last time. Before I imported the FORC data, but I just couldn't get a feel for it for whatever reason. This time I just imported the Cornellverse moves, minus all the signature moves, and am building things from the ground up. I started last night by deciding that a brand split for WWE would be the best way to go at this since there can only be two brands in a promotion. So I started with ECW as it is much smaller and would let me get a feel for what I am doing. After a few hours of work I am really loving how it is turning out. I have all the ECW promotional stuff set up, and I have eight wrestlers in currently. And I'm doing movesets and stats as I go along, so I can fight exhibition matches to see if everything is playing out right. So far I have eight ECW wrestlers complete, which is about half of their roster nowadays.

I'll keep the updates coming as I keep going with this thing, and hopefully lady luck will be on my side this time and I can show alot of people how great this game can really be.

[Woodsmeister]

good luck i hope you can do it :)

[SHaynes23]

Well things have been running very smoothly so far. I have decided to make one change though. I am still going to leave ECW as their own promotion, but I am going to make WWE with Smackdown and Raw, so it will not be a true brand split. Right now I only have four more ECW active wrestlers left to make, then their refs and personalities. I have a couple of testers I am going to send it to, then work begins on WWE.

[PWNED!]

Just make ECW have a talent exchange relationship with WWE or something like that.

[SHaynes23]

That is what I am doing with them, giving them a working agreement with WWE.

Well today went pretty good, I got some default movesets set up to make people's movesets alot quicker to make, I just have to add their signature move to their styles default moveset and bam, it's done. Right now I have two active wrestlers left to make in ECW (Thorn and Holly), then the referees (who will take like a minute each), and the divas and announcers. So as of right now everything is running beautifully, then it's onto the task that is WWE.

[panix04]

good luck mate, the wrespi3 dream needs a real world wrespi2 mod to get the sales going! I know if you do finish this you will instantly get atleast a dinner invite from D.Boon too! :D

[PWNED!]

That is what I am doing with them, giving them a working agreement with WWE.

Well today went pretty good, I got some default movesets set up to make people's movesets alot quicker to make, I just have to add their signature move to their styles default moveset and bam, it's done. Right now I have two active wrestlers left to make in ECW (Thorn and Holly), then the referees (who will take like a minute each), and the divas and announcers. So as of right now everything is running beautifully, then it's onto the task that is WWE.I'd love to help you on the movesets, in order to make this look good and not just thrown together.

[SHaynes23]

Trust me, it won't look thrown together, I have a ton of default movesets for every style imaginable, and they are just the base moves. Then for whoever I am doing I copy their base default moveset, then add all their moves that they do, including finishers. I just keeps me from having to add punches and kicks 5000 times. Each person will have a unique moveset, don't worry about that.

[SHaynes23]

Well just now I finished the current active ECW roster, so I just need to put in personalities and referees which will take about half an hour, then see who gets added in the supplemental draft on Sunday and ECW will be done. So this thing is moving right along, and it's looking pretty good if I say so myself.

[Woodsmeister]

looking forward to it :)

[thebigthing]

sounds like it somming along nicely good work

[SHaynes23]

Yeah, it's coming along very well. I have a question for all of you though, would you like to see me start up a development dynasty? There I could post like a match of the day or something so you can all see how things are coming along, or maybe even a big ECW tournament or something.

[panix04]

i think that would be pretty cool actually!

[Jonfun]

Looking forward to this.

[SHaynes23]

I've now got 21 active wrestlers done, which is all of ECW roster, including the new draft picks, and the wrestlers that were drafted away from ECW. If you go over to the dynasty thread you will see I'm running an ECW tournament over there with them.

So now I'll do the non active ECW people, like Extreme Expose and the announcers and such, which won't take long.

[SHaynes23]

All the ECW people are now in the game, so after I polish it up a bit today I'll be able to send it out to a few people to have a look at it and make sure I didn't make any dumb mistakes, then it is onto the task that is WWE. I'll be putting Raw and Smackdown in together as you know, but I'm going to work on all the Smackdown people first, hoping breaking it down in two will make it seem like more of a marathon.

[SHaynes23]

Well I'm going on vacation for a few days, don't know if I'll have internet access there, but I'm bringing my computer and plan on working on this during the ride to and from there and at the hotel room during the night. So when I come back in a couple of days ECW should be completely finished and hopefully I will have started on WWE.

[thebigthing]

cool keep up the good work just one qestion are smackdown and raw on the same with ecw sepreat or are you making them all seprate

[SHaynes23]

Raw and Smackdown are in the same promotion, WWE. ECW is by themselves because you can only have 2 brands in a promotion. It is the most realistic way I could work it out.

[SHaynes23]

I am now officially done with ECW. I sent the file to two different people and they are going to test it for me. Now I'm getting started setting all WWE's promotional stuff up, then I will get started on Smackdown's roster first, then Raw's.

[SHaynes23]

Quick update, all the WWE events, titles, shows, and information are now all in the game, and I got started on the Smackdown roster by making Batista, so the next few weeks will be spent on making Smackdown's roster. I'll give you any updates on things as they come along and answer any questions that you guys have about the mod.

[irabowman]

I have never DL a mod yet, so I may just have to do this and learn how to put it in . Gl

[SHaynes23]

Death of the Territories is a complete mod, and it is awesome. I would download and play that, I think you will like it alot. It's still awhile until mine is playable so that should give you a ton of fun until mine comes out.

[that_one_guy]

Yeah, definately go with Death of the Territories. It's extremely solid, and nothing feels quite as good as finally making it to New Japan with Ultimo dragon. Over 2 freakin years before I was over enough in Japan.....god did that feel awesome. Anyways, thanks again SHaynes23, the current Real World mod is pretty sub par, and an extensive version would rock. I bow to you my fellow St. Louisian. *bows to SHaynes and King Booker picture*

[SHaynes23]

That's cool, that's like 4 people from St. Louis on here. But anyways, yeah DOTT is awesome, the funnest I had was with Norman Smiley, man I miss that dynasty, makes me wanna drink some Yoohoo (If you read the dynasty, you know.) But onto this mod, I have been busy the last week so I haven't touched it, but I am off work for the next 5 days so I'll have plently of time to work on it and hopefully get close to getting Smackdown done. It's hard to keep up pace with the work Woodsmeister is doing in his mod, but I'm gonna give it a go this week.

PS: All hail King Bookah! Seriously though, he's a cool guy, and he's the number one contender in my RAW dyansty (Check it out, /cheap plug), so that's why the Booker avatar, it'll probably change sooner rather than later to, like to keep it fresh.

[Woodsmeister]

lol i did nothing but work my butt off all weekend, well i could have done more on sunday but i promised my sister i would go to the flicks with her :( i will get it released thursday night im determined.

[panix04]

the current Real World mod is pretty sub par.

Thats a bit harsh!

[SHaynes23]

Today I got a few Smackdown workers done, but I spent the most time adjusting overness on almost everybody and adding moves here and there to people's movesets. Tomorrow is NCAA Football 08 release day, so I will work on the data in between games in that and hopefully put a fairly large dent in the remainder of the Smackdown roster.

[SHaynes23]

Eh.....the dreaded double post. The browser was acting screwy and didn't realize the last one actually posted, my bad.

[SHaynes23]

I got up bright and early this morning and made Edge, then made a new moveset for CM Punk, so he has two now. (Credit to Woodmeister on that idea) He now has his WWE moveset and a Independent moveset as well, that has his moves like the Devil Lock and Pepsi Plunge.

[that_one_guy]

Thats a bit harsh!

Yeah, but when most of the guys have generic movesets and most of the promotions are messed up, you can kind of understand my quarrels. I realise it's better than anything I could ever make, and I'm glad it's been made, but I've spent hours trying to fix it, and failing pretty badly.

[SHaynes23]

I've decide to make a change to how I'm doing things. I remembered that this game is based on kayfabe, and I was planning on using the majority of wrestler's real names like they appear in most TEW mods. But since it is kayfabe I'm going to have people's default names as what they are currently, or best known as. That means in exibition matches you won't be fighting Mark Callaway vs. Glen Jacobs, you'll be fighting Undertaker vs. Kane. Also if a wrestler from WWE gets released say Kane, he would show up somewhere else as Glen Jacobs, which would be very unlikely to happen. Sure it doesn't flow with the whole trademarked name thing in real life, but this game is based on if wrestling is real and it works the best for a WS2 mod. What do you all think about this?

[Woodsmeister]

yeh i think it makes sense ;)

[that_one_guy]

I like the idea. For some people I don't know what their real names are *I've always wondered about some guys too. What's Punks name? Jushin Liger?!* And it makes things easier to find.

[SHaynes23]

I just wanted to let everybody know that this mod is alive and kicking, it just slowed down alot recently, but Panix was nice enough to give me the go ahead to import workers from FORC, which will cut down the time it will take to make someone by about 75% at least. Now all I have to do is worry about updating some stats and then the movesets. So thanks to Panix and you all can look for this thing to start speeding up again in the next few days and hopefully have a completed Smackdown pretty soon.

[hopper_joel]

cool looking forward to it.

[Reeves]

Any updates going on? How is everything going?

[SHaynes23]

Everything is going pretty good. Took today off because the new Madden game came out, but I'm about 65% done with Smackdown.

[SHaynes23]

I've decided that I'm going to make a unique background for this mod, so I dug up this background, how do you all like it?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/BG.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/KingBooker.jpg

[Sensai of Mattitude]

That looks pretty good, it's always quite cool when a mod maker decides to go with an alternate background to KyKy. I'd imagine it'd be a pain to put a whole database on a new background, but if you want to do it, that's brilliant.

[SHaynes23]

Thanks, in the last two hours I've got almost everybody that I've made cut and put on the background, and some people have more than one for old gimmicks and championships too. It's not too bad, it'll definatly be worth it.

[SHaynes23]

Well that didn't take as long as I thought. I've got all the pictures done for people that are already in the game, so I can get back to working on the data and will make the pictures as I go.

And I got this sweet Curryman avatar out of the whole thing, so that's a plus. That might cause me to call this background the Ichiban Background.

[SHaynes23]

I got six or seven people done last night, which leaves about 10 active Smackdown wrestlers, then the divas and personalities and the people that are injured, then Smackdown will be complete, and on to Raw. And here's some of the examples of more pictures I cut. I love this background by the way, it's a shot from the stage of Saturday Night's Main Event towards the ring. I may have to release the pack when I get done for TEW too.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/ElijahBurke.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/BatistaWHC.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/CMPunk.jpg

[Maase]

Will ROH be on it?

[trypio]

The more cust I see on the background, the more I like it, I was a bit unsure at first but after seeing those 3 it looks great.

[Sensai of Mattitude]

Will ROH be on it?

I'm almost positive that it will be.

[SHaynes23]

Will ROH be on it?

ROH will definitely be in. I don't know how many indies will be in the first version, but the major ones will definitely be in and ROH is the biggest indie. I'm going to add as many as possible so that you have a wide range of companies you can work for in career mode.

The more cust I see on the background, the more I like it, I was a bit unsure at first but after seeing those 3 it looks great.

Yeah, I just wanted something different to set this apart from almost every TEW mod, and the pictures look really good in game. Like this:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/Untitled-TrueColor-01.jpg

[SHaynes23]

A got a few more Smackdown workers done today, here are some more pictures so that you guys can get used to it before they come out.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/Kane.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/MarkHenry.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/shaynes23/Random/RicFlair.jpg

[WrestlingSpiritFan]

Cool dude, I can't wait for this to come out.

[SHaynes23]

Just a little update: whenever I finish the active roster of Smackdown, which is 15 more people, I'm going to do a tournament like I did with the ECW roster, so look forward to that pretty soon. And then in the long term, after I finish up with Raw I'm planning on releasing a beta with just WWE and ECW in it. You can play exhibition matches with it, and we'll have to see if there is enough for a league.

[SHaynes23]

I've been working on it slowly over the weekend because I've been working and we had a big party for my grandparents, but I'm gonna work on it tonight while I watch Summerslam and hopefully get close to finishing Smackdown.

[SHaynes23]

As of right now I have the 4 people that were injured when I started Smackdown left (Taker, Rey, Helms, Holly), and then the announcers, divas, and other non wrestlers to do, then it is done with Smackdown and on to Raw. I'm still debating whether to release a WWE beta after Raw, so we'll see on that one in the coming few weeks.

[Thijs]

As of right now I have the 4 people that were injured when I started Smackdown left (Taker, Rey, Helms, Holly), and then the announcers, divas, and other non wrestlers to do, then it is done with Smackdown and on to Raw. I'm still debating whether to release a WWE beta after Raw, so we'll see on that one in the coming few weeks.

Sounds great :). Can't wait for the release!

[SHaynes23]

I've finished the active wrestler roster for Smackdown now. So I have a list of about 10 non-active people like announcers and referees and stuff which shouldn't take too long.

[SHaynes23]

Haven't updated this in a couple of days....so I've got to put Ashley in the game and all her moves....then the referees, like 2 or 3 managers, then finally JBL and Cole, then Smackdown is done.

Then I'm gonna send the data to my three man testing squad and let them give me some feedback, then I'll get started on Raw as fast as I can.

[SHaynes23]

I've got some good news.....I've just got the referees and announcers left to work on....but that's not the good news.

The good news is that once I finish off Smackdown I'm sending the data to my testers, and our personal ROH expert Woodsmeister is going to put them into the game for me so I have a little break from modding all the time, plus, he knows his ROH so the movesets and everything will be top notch. Then I'll slightly adjust that data so that it fits into the overall scheme of how popularity is set up in the data and get started on Raw....then hopefully have a beta for everybody.

[SHaynes23]

Just leaving a little note for my three testers.....I just got JBL done, and I'm not thinking that work is going to be busy tonight, so I'll get Vickie Guerrero done, then I'll put the files together and send them to you. So look in your PM inbox for them in the next 8-12 hours most likely.

[SHaynes23]

So the data is out to the testers and they are going through it now. And Woodsmeister is going to be working on ROH, so when he sends me updates on it I'll post them here. And when he gets done I'll get started right away on Raw and any contract and stat updates that are nesscesary.

[clroberson7426]

quick question Shaynes, have you had any trouble with brand separation? I'm running into trouble, I created a WWE database for my personal use, and I can't seem to get the wrestlers to compete on just one show. Most of them compete on both of my shows. any tips you can give me?

[SHaynes23]

In the data I haven't gotten into splitting Raw and Smackdown yet because I'm doing it by brand and I haven't worked on Raw yet. But from what I have heard from Adam in the support forums they hold a draft when it starts out to even out the brands, or just drops them if it is not necessary. When Woodsmeister gets done with ROH and sends it back I'll update you on how the brand thing is working out.

[Woodsmeister]

yeh i havent been well recently ive only done bryan danielson he kicked brett majors ass lol but lost to chavo never mind, will keep u informed.