GDS Real World Chaos Mafia - GAME THREAD

[mjdgoldeneye]

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*****


Night 0

Vince McMahon was an idiot. Many people, upon hearing that statement, would agree. However, it was his crazy writers, booking, and business moves that would back-up their idea. However, tonight, he was an idiot for attending a meeting he really had no reason to. In fact, it was in his best interest to avoid it, but he went anyway. He was hoping he could discuss some past events, and maybe even talk about the future.

The person Vince would be meeting decided to hold the meeting in a small town in Connecticut, not far from Vince’s home or WWE Headquarters. The supposed reason was because the man he’d be visiting with would be in the area…

Vince’s limo pulls up to the small, 2-story office building where the meeting would be held. It was 8 PM and was dark already, as the sky was overcast. Mr. McMahon looks to his driver, “Wait here, I shouldn’t be more than 20 minutes to half an hour”.

The truth was that it would take barely 5 minutes. He walks up to the door. It’s dim inside, only about a third of the fluorescent ceiling lights are on. There is a sign on the door:

Hey, Mr. McMahon. I’ll be upstairs, third door on the left.

That seemed odd him. For a few seconds, he stands, holding the door handle, wondering why he’s here, wondering why it feels so eerie all of a sudden, and especially wondering why he is meeting this man at all… He’d had a rocky past with him, and didn’t understand why he had such a feeling of guilt. He decided to enter the building. His fate was sealed.

Vince headed upstairs, and to the third door on the left as suggested. He opened the door. The man was already in the room, sitting at a table, with his hands folded.

“Come on in, sit down.”

As quickly as Vince’s hand reached for the back of his chair, his assailant grabbed a small handgun from his lap. One shot to the head, one shot to the chest…

Vince was dead within 2 seconds. His attacker achieved his ultimate goal.

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About an hour and a half later, Vince’s driver became suspicious. He had heard a loud noise, but figured it was distant construction. He entered the office building, walked upstairs, headed to the third door on the left, and his screams could be heard in Southern California.

Two days later, his funeral was held in his hometown of Greenwich. Many, many wrestlers, family, friends, family friends, and even random celebrities and personalities showed up. Linda, Shane, and Stephanie were there, obviously. WWE wrestlers, past and present were there, including Ric Flair, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and even Hulk Hogan. Even wrestlers from other promotions showed up to pay their respects. The world mourned a pioneer.

However, there were some out there who laughed, as their plan fell together… It was a perfect time for the rise of Total Nonstop Assassins…

By the end of the next day, almost everyone left, still stunned at Mr. McMahon’s death. However, a few stayed in town to do some thinking. Who would have done this? These people know that if you are against Mr. McMahon and the WWE then you are against pro-wrestling. Little did they know that they themselves would become targets…

Mr. McMahon is dead. He was WWE Aligned Chairman and Pro-Wrestling Pioneer.

*****

As all of this was happening, another group sat back and watched. They were enemies of the WWE too. Unlike with some others, victory to them is black and white…

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PLAYERS: 12

6. Jagilki
8. Masterded
9. Sprinklefurball
10. The Aussie
11. Wallbanger
13. i effin rule
14. Moe Hunter
20. Minister Whitey
24. TheEdgeOfReason
26. Sensai of Mattitude
28. machinesxe
29. nZane


GRAVEYARD

0. Joose2001 - Vince McMahon, WWE Aligned Chairman and Pro-Wrestling Pioneer.
1. The Outlaw321 - Kevin Nash, New World Order Aligned Big Man and Master Politician
2. BIG JOSH - The Boogeyman, WWE Aligned Weird Voodoo Clock-Smasher
3. Undertaker666 - The Shockmaster, Individually Aligned Clumsy Champion of the Botch
4. Crychon - Hornswoggle, WWE Aligned Little B****** Leprechaun
5. Infinitywpi - CM Punk, WWE Aligned Straight Edged Thinker
7. Gonvick - Raven, Individually Aligned Loner And Master Of The Promo
12. NickC13573 - Scott Hall, New World Order Aligned Drunken and Unemployed Slacker
15. BlueStar - Big Guido, Full Blooded Italians Aligned Often Ignored Investigator
16. Panix04 - The Ultimate Warrior, Individually Aligned Crazy Former Champion
17. nZane - Linda McMahon, McMahon Family Aligned CEO and Matriarch
18. trypio - Shane McMahon, McMahon Family Aligned Vengeful Son
19. Arrows - Tony Mamaluke, Full Blooded Italians Aligned Other Guy and Investigator
21. Pampero Firpo - Ric Flair, WWE Aligned Well-Respected Legend
22. TheEdgeOfReason - HHH, WWE Aligned King of Kings and Owner Of Sledgehammers
23. infinitywpi - Gregory Helms, WWE Aligned Cruiserweight Superstar and All-round Nice Guy
25. Clarity - King Booker, WWE Aligned Obviously Fake Royalty
27. Mr T Jobs To Me - Matt Hardy, WWE Aligned Individually Successful Brother of Jeff
30. Astil - Scott Steiner, Total Nonstop Assassins Aligned Genetic Freak and Hitman
31. Astil - Edge, WWE Aligned Opportunistic Rated “R” Superstar
32. Jbergy_2005 - Jeff Jarrett, Total Nonstop Assassins Aligned WWE Outcast/TNA Main Eventer


*****
(Jacked from SB)

Each Day & Night Phase recap will be listed here, along with its Post # in the thread for convenience.

DEATH POST LISTINGS:
Night 0 - Post #1
Day 1 - Write-up Page 26, Infinitywpi Lynched
Night 1 - Write-up Page 36, TEoR, Arrows, nZane, BIG JOSH Killed
Day 2 - Write-up Page 78, Astil Lynched
Night 2 - Write-up Page 92, No Deaths!
Day 3 - Write-up Page 129, Undertaker666 Lynched
Night 3 - Write-up Page 134, NickC13573, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me Killed
Day 4 - Write-up Page 164, No Lynch
Day 5 - Write-up Page 167, theoutlaw321, Crychon Killed

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Do not post yet. How to play and rules comes next, followed by roles being sent out.

[mjdgoldeneye]

(Sorry SB, lol...)

HOW TO PLAY:

- All of you have been PM’d a role, and your alignment (either WWE Aligned or Mafia Aligned). The objective is to eliminate all members of the opposing alignment from the game.

- Each player has been given a role with their own special ability. Your PM will explain what it does, if you are meant to know. You don’t have to reveal what your role is to the other players, nor will I do so in my updates. Then again there is nothing to stop you, so if you feel that it may help prove your innocence, go ahead – just keep in mind that this could also backfire and help the mafia. Likewise, you may lie about who you are if you wish. If you want to use your abilities, PM me. DO NOT post it in the thread.

- The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day, and all players (Mafia and Townie alike) post in the thread, deciding who to kill off. Lynching is the only way for the Townies to kill the Mafia, so be sure to examine voting patterns of your fellow players. I might also provide clues in the death write ups, but over-reliance on those is ill-advised as some may be traps.

- All voting and discussion is to occur within the thread. CornellVerse players may discuss who they think is Mafia, and Mafia members should be trying to bluff/convince/blend in, and generally try not to get voted for. To vote, post Vote: Username (in bold, so it’s easier to count). You can also change your vote, by typing Change Vote: Username. You can also choose to vote for No Lynching. You must post in the thread for you vote to be counted. You can also abstain from voting, which means I just do not include you in the number crunching.

- Elimination occurs after 48 hours, or whenever a person obtains more than 50% of the vote. In case of a tie, the latest vote will be discounted, until the tie is broken. Once a person dies, I will reveal their alignment and role.

- Night falls after somebody is executed. During this time, the Mafia can discuss who they want to kill next (using whatever form of communication appeals to them) – if anyone at all. Abilities are also used during this time. To use an ability, PM me, and I’ll PM you the outcome of the ability. If it is something serious like somebody getting killed, I will update it in the thread. If possible though, try to PM me what you want to do as soon after night falls as possible to keep things moving along at a quick pace. Once the Mafia has decided, it is up to the Mafia Don to tell me who he wants dead. If the Mafia Don dies, a new one is appointed.

- Night ends once I post who gets killed, and the cycle repeats itself. The CornellVerse players win if all Mafia members are dead, and vice versa. Remember, this is a team effort, so if you think sacrificing someone may help your cause, go ahead.

-Remember, some roles such as investigators and protectors are more valuable to the town – so try to keep them alive!

RULES:

- I know it’s the Dog Pound, but try not to postwhore in the thread anyway. Feel free to trash talk, accuse, call out other players if you want, but if you’re going to vote, at least state some kind of reason as to why you’re doing so.

- Though I can’t force you to post, I’d love to see active participation. Otherwise I’ll be a sad panda.

- Once you are dead, you stay dead, and may not participate until the game is over. You may also not advise the remaining players on what to do – besides, to prevent cheating, I will not provide the dead with any additional information than they would get if they were still alive. Of course, I’m willing to listen to your theories as to what’s going on. Likewise, I'd appreciate if those not taking part try not help those playing, though general comments on how things are going would be welcomed in the Sign Up Thread.

- Unless your role permits it, all players may not discuss game plan, your role, or alignment outside the thread. Of course, I can’t enforce this, but I believe secretly revealing information amongst each other would spoil the game, so try not to do it.

- Players are not allowed to edit their posts in this thread at all, as it allows for those who make mistakes to remove all of the evidence without any effort. Since I can't enforce this, I strongly encourage town aligned players to scrutinize any posts they notice that have been edited.

Due to scheduling, all PM's to moderators during the day phase should go to joose, and all PM's during the night should go to me, mjdgoldeneye.

[mjdgoldeneye]

The Game Is Now Open

It is now the day phase. You have a little over 48 hours, until 5:00 PM Eastern on August 18th to get something done. Good Luck! :D

[joose2001]

All roles have now been sent :D

As stated above, I know the roles will say "PM me....." that was just so easier to read.

Anyone doing anything in the day, PM myself.
Anyone for the night phase, PM MJD


So, I will now sit back, grab a beer and watch you guys mess everything up :D

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Added Rule
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If you do not post at least once in a 72 hour period, you will assumed to be inactive in the game and will be replaced.
HOWEVER, there are one or two people I know atm that are away on vacation so they will be safe from this untill they are back.

[Clarity]

Are we sure Vince is dead.. Maybe its just another poorly planned angle...

[Sensai of Mattitude]

How long till we roleclaim?

:D

[Clarity]

Im surprised no-one already has. this thread is 13 minutes old already.....

[joose2001]

Personally, I think early roleclaiming for the sake of it should be discouraged.

However, if your in major danger and think its in the best interests, then yes you can.

Later on in the game however wont matter too much

[mjdgoldeneye]

Are we sure Vince is dead.. Maybe its just another poorly planned angle...

Most anticlimactic game twist ever...

[Clarity]

Although im sure someone will role claim as him for a laff

[mjdgoldeneye]

In regards to roleclaiming, there may be some serious unknown dangers out there, so I'd discourage it too, as joose said...

I wonder what you'll do without my bandwagon in the beginning... :rolleyes:

[Clarity]

Vote: Mjdgoldeneye

[Clarity]

oh and i know he isn't playing this game :D

[Nevermore]

Are we sure Vince is dead.. Maybe its just another poorly planned angle...

Haha, exactly what I was thinking.

[nZane]

Vote: BlueStar

Told you I was going to... :D

[BlueStar]

"OOh yeah, the Macho Man Randy Savage is going to...uhmmm..."

Right, this should be good! :D

[Crychon]

Well, Mr. T Jobs To Me said he was Kevin Nash AND didn't capitalize the of! MAFIA! (quiet... I know the game hadn't started yet)

[BlueStar]

Vote Jumbo Shrimp...

Thanks nZane! :D

[infinitywpi]

Vote: No Lynch 'cause with this many people, I'm confident I'm not going to die tonight, but I don't want to tick off someone important by voting for them at random.

[Clarity]

Vote Change: Undertaker666

Reason: Has been town aligned both games so far. The odds of being townie again must be slimming

[nZane]

Vote Jumbo Shrimp...

Thanks nZane! :D
Change Vote: No Vote

It's no fun voting for someone if they're not going to piss and moan about it...

[Crychon]

Vote Change: Undertaker666

Reason: Has been town aligned both games so far. The odds of being townie again must be slimming

I also figured there was no way he'd be immune to night kills 2 games in a row... We all know how that one turned out!

[joose2001]

Voting so far.....

UNDERTAKER666 - 1 (Clarity)

With 17 players to a lynch, you have just over 48 hours left :D

[BlueStar]

Hey, my first start at a Mafia game...EVAAH!

Just to share some initial thoughts...it seems like little to go on. Vince is dead, ok. One Mafia? Two? Three? A Zillion? A Serial Killer (see CV v2.0)?

Or will the Undertaker raise him from the dead?

[nZane]

Vote Change: Undertaker666

Reason: Has been town aligned both games so far. The odds of being townie again must be slimmingAssuming Joose and MJD handed out roles randomly, I'd say the odds of UT being a townie are about the same this time as they were the in last two games.

[BlueStar]

Agree with nZane, though I think he's Val Venis! :D

[Clarity]

Assuming Joose and MJD handed out roles randomly, I'd say the odds of UT being a townie are about the same this time as they were the in last two games.

I dunno.. How many times can you flip a coin and get heads each time...

[BlueStar]

This seems like the key quote to me:

"However, there were some out there who laughed, as their plan fell together… It was a perfect time for the rise of Total Nonstop Assassins…"

So, at least one group but a good hint at a second and/or an Serial Killer of some sort...seems like TNA didn't knock off Vince...

[nZane]

I dunno.. How many times can you flip a coin and get heads each time...The exact same number of times you can flip a coin and get tails. The odds are 50/50 every single time.

In this particular instance, the odds of UT getting a townie role are probably around 70/30 (assuming 10 or so mafia/individuals). Which just so happen to be the same odds as the rest of us getting a townie role.

[i effin rule]

I dunno.. How many times can you flip a coin and get heads each time...

That's only a 50/50 chance though. We're talking about probably at least 20 townies out of 32 people. So there is about a 62% chance or more of him or anyone else being a townie.

[i effin rule]

The exact same number of times you can flip a coin and get tails. The odds are 50/50 every single time.

In this particular instance, the odds of UT getting a townie role are probably around 70/30 (assuming 10 or so mafia/individuals). Which just so happen to be the same odds as the rest of us getting a townie role.

Damn you and your much faster post and much higher number! DAMN YOU!!

[Sensai of Mattitude]

This thread is moving incredibally fast. :(

[Clarity]

This seems like the key quote to me:

"However, there were some out there who laughed, as their plan fell together… It was a perfect time for the rise of Total Nonstop Assassins…"

So, at least one group but a good hint at a second and/or an Serial Killer of some sort...seems like TNA didn't knock off Vince...

Your forgetting the NWO. 'Unlike with some others, victory to them is black and white…' how obvious does that sound


That's only a 50/50 chance though. We're talking about probably at least 20 townies out of 32 people. So there is about a 62% chance or more of him or anyone else being a townie.

I know the chances are 50/50 but probability i think starts to work against you the more times your one and not the other..

[infinitywpi]

This thread is moving incredibally fast. :(

Actually... no, no it isn't.

[Sensai of Mattitude]

Well not anymore. :p

[Pampero Firpo]

It's clear that we have at least three factions: WWE, TNA and the "black and white" group -- which, as Clarity says, is likely the NWO. Of course we could have more factions and probably have a few independent folks as well. Now comes the hard part -- figuring out who fits where.

[trypio]

Cool, it has begun! Glad I didn't have to read through 10+ pages from the beginning. :)

[joose2001]

Oh one thing that I forgot to say on the rules and to help the problem of inactivity.

If you do not post at least once in a 72 hour period, you will assumed to be inactive in the game and will be replaced.
HOWEVER, there are one or two people I know atm that are away on vacation so they will be safe from this untill they are back.

[Wallbanger]

WARNING: WANTON SPECULATION FOLLOWS!

So we're led to believe from the writeup that TNA is a traditional mafia -- seems likely that Jeff Jarrett is the don of that group.

An nWo group is certainly possible, considering that Hogan's name has already been thrown out. The obvious other candidate, though is TNA at this point, Kevin Nash. Most of the other 'originals' aren't around anymore. Given this, my initial thought is that nWo is a cult rather than a mafia faction.

'Black and White' may be something completely different -- Ron Simmons, Bobby Lashley, Cryme Tyme perhaps as a all-African-American association? (Alliterative!)

An ROH group? DX? Four Horsemen? Again, possibilities. With this size of game we know there will be surprises down the road.

Information. We need information.

[jbergey_2005]

Jeff Jarret or Kurt Angle would make very likely mafia dons. I get this strange feeling Hulk Hogan may have offed McMahon. Why would Jarret or Angle feel any guilt?

[Clarity]

Jeff Jarret or Kurt Angle would make very likely mafia dons. I get this strange feeling Hulk Hogan may have offed McMahon. Why would Jarret or Angle feel any guilt?

I get the feeling Angle might be the individual.. Having been in both and apparently losing his marbles

[jbergey_2005]

I get the feeling Angle might be the individual.. Having been in both and apparently losing his marbles


The part with feeling guilt I would think would clear Angle, especially if he is losing his marbles. I imagine we will be seeing a lot of twists again in Mafia Chaos. At this point with no information to go on.

I vote:No Lynch

[Undertaker666]

Jeez, 40 replies already to read through! :eek:

Personally, I think early roleclaiming for the sake of it should be discouraged.

However, if your in major danger and think its in the best interests, then yes you can.

Later on in the game however wont matter too much

I don't think that's applicable to me is it? I'll be in danger from the very beginning! :(

Vote Change: Undertaker666

Reason: Has been town aligned both games so far. The odds of being townie again must be slimming

That didn't take long did it, and so it starts.... :p

Assuming Joose and MJD handed out roles randomly, I'd say the odds of UT being a townie are about the same this time as they were the in last two games.

Good man, I like logical thinking. :)

I dunno.. How many times can you flip a coin and get heads each time...

Depends if you've got a two headed coin. :D

The exact same number of times you can flip a coin and get tails. The odds are 50/50 every single time.

In this particular instance, the odds of UT getting a townie role are probably around 70/30 (assuming 10 or so mafia/individuals). Which just so happen to be the same odds as the rest of us getting a townie role.

70/30 indeed, I like those odds.

[Clarity]

Originally Posted by Clarity
Vote Change: Undertaker666

Reason: Has been town aligned both games so far. The odds of being townie again must be slimming

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That didn't take long did it, and so it starts....

Im sorry.. But since we have no leads at the mo, its the only information i have to base a vote on

[jbergey_2005]

Vote Change: Undertaker666

Reason: Has been town aligned both games so far. The odds of being townie again must be slimming

I dont like this. He has proved to be valuable and I am sure the roles were once again random. A blind lynch on UT would be the worst possible move at this point. He has been probably the most helpful townie in both games. Why would we want to lynch a person like this?

[Undertaker666]

Im sorry.. But since we have no leads at the mo, its the only information i have to base a vote on

But then I could say, "we have no leads at the mo, its the only information i have to base a vote on so I vote for Clarity". (that's not a real vote by the way mjd/joose)

Same difference isn't it. Bit odd that you'd like to vote off the runner-up MVP of the first game and the MVP of the last game without any proof though....

You'd be wasting a lynch anyway, the Mafia will kill me during the night. :p

[trypio]

But then I could say, "we have no leads at the mo, its the only information i have to base a vote on so I vote for Clarity". (that's not a real vote by the way mjd/joose)

Same difference isn't it. Bit odd that you'd like to vote off the runner-up MVP of the first game and the MVP of the last game without any proof though....

You'd be wasting a lynch anyway, the Mafia will kill me during the night. :p

I think he's jealous of you :)

[Clarity]

Ok.. Im willing to trust you... for now...

So am i right in assuming your gonna go for a no lynch again?

[Clarity]

Vote: No Vote

[Wallbanger]

You'd be wasting a lynch anyway, the Mafia will kill me during the night. :p

You'd like us to THINK that, wouldn't you! Then when you don't get killed at night, you can always say they're keeping you alive to cause confusion! It's the same gambit you've played to perfection in the last two games and...and...

Well, damn. That ran out of steam quickly.

Regardless, UT is probably a poor first day lynch candidate. And for that matter a poor second day lynch candidate. There are plenty of good players that folks will want to run off before UT. If he's still alive after Day 3, though... :cool:

[Sensai of Mattitude]

You'd be wasting a lynch anyway, the Mafia will kill me during the night. :p

:eek: You've got the same role as last game!!!

:p

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR

NO LYNCH - 2 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005)

With 32 players left, its 17 to a lynch (or no lynch), with 47 hours remaining
(Phase ends on Saturday 18th August at 5pm EST, 10pm GMT)

[panix04]

I agree that Undertaker is an awful 1st day bandwagon candidate. However, we should keep a watchful eye on him, 'cos as useful as he was as a townie, if he does turn out to be mafia that is one formidable foe! But anyway, as stated i certainly don't see a reason to vote for him just yet. I think going by the success we had with the bandwaggoning into role claims we did last time, we should go down that route again.

And because i couldn't really think of any good reason to start a band-wagon i am gonna suggest one of the newbie players, gives us a chance to see how active they are gonna be too.

VOTE: Assumed

[Undertaker666]

I think he's jealous of you :)

lol :D

Ok.. Im willing to trust you... for now...

So am i right in assuming your gonna go for a no lynch again?

You know me, i'm always up for a No Lynch on the first day. I'd never suggest that we all do a rush vote to get the day over with though. It's always good to what everyone else decides to do or if anyone wants to claim anything or know anything about someone else.

Using your logic though, there's someone else in the game that was the first game's MVP and has also been Mafia. He's experienced both sides so surely he'd be more dangerous than I am?
Even with that line of thinking I wouldn't be willing to vote for Wallbanger on the first day just on the off-chance that he could be Mafia. I thought he was Mafia during the first day of the last game (and as it turned out he was) but I still didn't make my idea known because it would've immediately drawn suspicion on me.

To be fair though, I couldn't really blame anyone for trying to kill me as fast as possible in this game. In fact, if i'm killed during the first night phase i'll take it as a compliment. :)

You'd like us to THINK that, wouldn't you! Then when you don't get killed at night, you can always say they're keeping you alive to cause confusion! It's the same gambit you've played to perfection in the last two games and...and...

Well, damn. That ran out of steam quickly.

Regardless, UT is probably a poor first day lynch candidate. And for that matter a poor second day lynch candidate. There are plenty of good players that folks will want to run off before UT. If he's still alive after Day 3, though... :cool:

lol, the way I played in the last game has left me wide open for suspicion in any future games but that was a risk I was willing to take to win the game. :)

:eek: You've got the same role as last game!!!

:p

Maybe. ;)

[infinitywpi]

Remember, folks, there's a difference between 'no vote' and 'no lynch'...

[Clarity]

I agree that Undertaker is an awful 1st day bandwagon candidate. However, we should keep a watchful eye on him, 'cos as useful as he was as a townie, if he does turn out to be mafia that is one formidable foe! But anyway, as stated i certainly don't see a reason to vote for him just yet. I think going by the success we had with the bandwaggoning into role claims we did last time, we should go down that route again.

And because i couldn't really think of any good reason to start a band-wagon i am gonna suggest one of the newbie players, gives us a chance to see how active they are gonna be too.

VOTE: Assumed

Assumed has only been a member for 2 weeks. He might be an idea to put pressure on him so we avoid another Justin Tyme moment

[Clarity]

Or Minister Whitey.. I cant see him on the members list

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 2 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005)

Assumed - 1 (Panix04)


And as infinitywpi has just bought up, yes there is a difference between "no vote" and "no lynch"

Just to run down quickly for the new players the difference.

NO VOTE means that you are not voting for anyone, and will not be counted at all.
NO LYNCH means that you think a lynch shouldnt be made, and when the "no lynch" total gets to the required amount, the day phase is over.

[Undertaker666]

My suggestions:

1. If there's someone with an investigative ability then they should investigate me during the night. I know what you'll all say, "He could be a Don! :eek:", but in the last game we had an investigator who could still identify a Don if he was investigated. If we've got someone who can do that, then they should investigate me. Obviously they shouldn't then make it perfectly clear that i'm a trusted townie because it then it identifies them as an investigator. Hopefully they'll leave clues and back me up though, so keep your eyes open.

2. Nobody role-claims unless they have to. Whilst it was useful to the town at the time, it would've been a more nail-biting finish if we didn't know about the DeColts so early on in the last game. The only exception to the rule would obviously be me because i'm in a uniquely precarious situation. :p

[Clarity]

Vote: Minister Whitey

Reason- Username doesn't exist

[joose2001]

TO ANYONE READING NOT IN THE GAME

I imagine, following the trend of the two other games, that someone will probably drop out of the game or will have to be replaced due to inactivity.

IF anyone would like to be put on the reserves list to take over from any player who drops out, please PM myself a.s.a.p just in case anyone needs to be replaced soon.

[joose2001]

Vote: Minister Whitey

Reason- Username doesn't exist

Can you hold fire on that one atm mate........ Im trying to get a replacement in for him.
As I had noticed that he has a post count of 0, and his only post was on the sign-up thread, which was dated last Friday.

If anyone wants to join in, taken over from Minister Whitey, please PM me a.s.a.p

*Note: this is nothing to do with his role, more the case of someone with a zero post count, who doesnt show on the members list and inactive for a week probably wont be playing here.

[Clarity]

Sure thing.. Probably good i noticed that then =)

Vote Change: Assumed

Reason: Justim Tyme from last game effect

[joose2001]

God sake, I cant keep up with you lot tonight!


VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 2 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Clarity)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
46 hours 45 minutes to go.....

Looks like its gonna be a late night for me :D

[panix04]

I would have to dis-agree with 'taker on the role claim business, i think the more people who role claim the better, the more info we have the better prepared we are. Of course not all role claims will be legit, but we may be able to garner information from peoples role claims.

[Clarity]

Im with taker on this one.. The role claims managed to annoy a fair few people last game

[jagilki]

Going to Random.org going to enter the list in and vote for whoever comes up #3

[jagilki]

Random.org isn't working for me :( Decided to close eyes and move cursor up and down list.

Vote: Crychon

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 2 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Clarity)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
46 hours 30 minutes to go.....

[Clarity]

Random.org isn't working for me :( Decided to close eyes and move cursor up and down list.

Vote: Crychon

You could use http://www.mdani.demon.co.uk/para/random.htm

I got 21: Pampero Firpo from it.. But im sticking to my vote

[Crychon]

Random.org isn't working for me :( Decided to close eyes and move cursor up and down list.

Vote: Crychon

Aww... Come on now... At least let me last a little bit longer in a game where someone hasn't roleclaimed for me...

[Undertaker666]

I would have to dis-agree with 'taker on the role claim business, i think the more people who role claim the better, the more info we have the better prepared we are. Of course not all role claims will be legit, but we may be able to garner information from peoples role claims.

Sounds like a Mafia tactic wanting to know peoples roles.... surely at this stage it could only be to try and figure out who isn't likely to have any powers that would negate the attack? An attack on The Undertaker (not me), the lights go off and he vanishes.... Attack Ric Flair and he does the Old Man Flop and pretends he's dead.... you get the idea.

Random.org isn't working for me :( Decided to close eyes and move cursor up and down list.

Vote: Crychon

Now there's a scientific process of elimination if ever i've seen one! :p

[Clarity]

Now there's a scientific process of elimination if ever i've seen one! :p


I take it you havent heard of that highly scientific Ippy Dippy method..

[Undertaker666]

I take it you havent heard of that highly scientific Ippy Dippy method..

I think everyone knows that method, I haven't used it in about 17 years though! :D

[theoutlaw321]

Wow, two pages already. That's what I get for being asleep.

[theoutlaw321]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5293/logoso6.jpg

*****


Night 0

Vince McMahon was an idiot. Many people, upon hearing that statement, would agree. However, it was his crazy writers, booking, and business moves that would back-up their idea. However, tonight, he was an idiot for attending a meeting he really had no reason to. In fact, it was in his best interest to avoid it, but he went anyway. He was hoping he could discuss some past events, and maybe even talk about the future.

The person Vince would be meeting decided to hold the meeting in a small town in Connecticut, not far from Vince’s home or WWE Headquarters. The supposed reason was because the man he’d be visiting with would be in the area…

Vince’s limo pulls up to the small, 2-story office building where the meeting would be held. It was 8 PM and was dark already, as the sky was overcast. Mr. McMahon looks to his driver, “Wait here, I shouldn’t be more than 20 minutes to half an hour”.

The truth was that it would take barely 5 minutes. He walks up to the door. It’s dim inside, only about a third of the fluorescent ceiling lights are on. There is a sign on the door:



That seemed odd him. For a few seconds, he stands, holding the door handle, wondering why he’s here, wondering why it feels so eerie all of a sudden, and especially wondering why he is meeting this man at all… He’d had a rocky past with him, and didn’t understand why he had such a feeling of guilt. He decided to enter the building. His fate was sealed.

Vince headed upstairs, and to the third door on the left as suggested. He opened the door. The man was already in the room, sitting at a table, with his hands folded.

“Come on in, sit down.”

As quickly as Vince’s hand reached for the back of his chair, his assailant grabbed a small handgun from his lap. One shot to the head, one shot to the chest…

Vince was dead within 2 seconds. His attacker achieved his ultimate goal.

*****

About an hour and a half later, Vince’s driver became suspicious. He had heard a loud noise, but figured it was distant construction. He entered the office building, walked upstairs, headed to the third door on the left, and his screams could be heard in Southern California.

Two days later, his funeral was held in his hometown of Greenwich. Many, many wrestlers, family, friends, family friends, and even random celebrities and personalities showed up. Linda, Shane, and Stephanie were there, obviously. WWE wrestlers, past and present were there, including Ric Flair, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and even Hulk Hogan. Even wrestlers from other promotions showed up to pay their respects. The world mourned a pioneer.

However, there were some out there who laughed, as their plan fell together… It was a perfect time for the rise of Total Nonstop Assassins…

By the end of the next day, almost everyone left, still stunned at Mr. McMahon’s death. However, a few stayed in town to do some thinking. Who would have done this? These people know that if you are against Mr. McMahon and the WWE then you are against pro-wrestling. Little did they know that they themselves would become targets…

Mr. McMahon is dead. He was WWE Aligned Chairman and Pro-Wrestling Pioneer.

*****

As all of this was happening, another group sat back and watched. They were enemies of the WWE too. Unlike with some others, victory to them is black and white…

*****

PLAYERS (32):
1. Outlaw321
2. Bigjosh
3. Undertaker666
4. Crychon
5. Assumed
6. Jagilki
7. Gonvick
8. Masterded
9. Sprinklefurball
10. The Aussie
11. Wallbanger
12. NickC13573
13. i effin rule
14. Moe Hunter
15. BlueStar
16. panix04
17. nZane
18. trypio
19. Arrows
20. Minister Whitey
21. Pampero Firpo
22. TheEdgeOfReason
23. infinitywpi
24. Nevermore
25. Clarity
26. Sensai of Mattitude
27. Mr T Jobs To Me
28. machinesxe
29. Thomnipotent
30. Sadistic Blessings
31. Astil
32. jbergey_2005

GRAVEYARD:
0. Vince McMahon - WWE Aligned Chairman and Pro-Wrestling Pioneer.

*****
(Jacked from SB)

Each Day & Night Phase recap will be listed here, along with its Post # in the thread for convenience.

DEATH POST LISTINGS:
Night 0 - Post #1


*****


Do not post yet. How to play and rules comes next, followed by roles being sent out.


Doesn't this lead you to believe that Vince is the one that feels guilty?

[panix04]

Sounds like a Mafia tactic wanting to know peoples roles.... surely at this stage it could only be to try and figure out who isn't likely to have any powers that would negate the attack? An attack on The Undertaker (not me), the lights go off and he vanishes.... Attack Ric Flair and he does the Old Man Flop and pretends he's dead.... you get the idea.


I would actually say that negating a tactic that proved so fruitful to us townies last time seem's more of a mafia-like tendancy to me! But i'm not going to be bated into voting for you on that alone, nah as far as i'm concerned you are potentially way too valuable to the town. I do wonder wether or not to play in character again or not, t'was fun last time!

[gonvick]

I would have to dis-agree with 'taker on the role claim business, i think the more people who role claim the better, the more info we have the better prepared we are. Of course not all role claims will be legit, but we may be able to garner information from peoples role claims.

But the mafia recieves that info as well, which they can use to pick better targets. Especially early in the game, I think forcing a mass role claim could be a bad idea.

[theoutlaw321]

I do wonder wether or not to play in character again or not, t'was fun last time!

Only if you are Eugene. lol

[Undertaker666]

Doesn't this lead you to believe that Vince is the one that feels guilty?

Yep, it's Bret Hart! The Hart Foundation as a Mafia faction in the game certainly seems viable.... anyone want to claim that they're Bret Hart? What, no-one? :p

I do wonder wether or not to play in character again or not, t'was fun last time!

I was tempted to do that too because it'd certainly be amusing given my character! :D

[nZane]

I was tempted to do that too because it'd certainly be amusing given my character! :DYou're The Great Khali, aren't you? I'd like to see you play him in character!

[panix04]

But the mafia recieves that info as well, which they can use to pick better targets. Especially early in the game, I think forcing a mass role claim could be a bad idea.

Fair point, but i mean character claim, lets be honest if you claim to be The Rock, Or Austin chances are your batting for the home team!

[panix04]

just to clarify, i mean dont neccasarily come out in the open about your ability, just your character.

[Undertaker666]

You're The Great Khali, aren't you? I'd like to see you play him in character!

I'm not Khali but it could be fun to play as him anyway. :D

"Bladhhaharghghi dabbdagallagarh flagababadaarrggahga..."

[theoutlaw321]

I'm not Khali but it could be fun to play as him anyway. :D

"Bladhhaharghghi dabbdagallagarh flagababadaarrggahga..."

Does that translate? I really suck and can't even sell a claw hold on the Nature Boy for God's sake!

[mjdgoldeneye]

Doesn't this lead you to believe that Vince is the one that feels guilty?

Correct!

Also, if it wasn't blatantly obvious enough, as it's bold and in blue, "WWE" refers to any town player. That's why I had the whole "If you're non a bad guy, you are with the WWE" (Worded better, but same idea...).

[Undertaker666]

Does that translate? I really suck and can't even sell a claw hold on the Nature Boy for God's sake!

If it does then I didn't realise that I spoke Bengali/Hindi/Punjabi or what ever language he speaks! :p

[Clarity]

After what feels like forever the 360 demo for BioShock has downloaded and im gonna go play that for a bit.. Will catch up on whats been happening in a few hours and see where to go from there

[mjdgoldeneye]

After what feels like forever the 360 demo for BioShock has downloaded and im gonna go play that for a bit.. Will catch up on whats been happening in a few hours and see where to go from there

I'll tell you right now: That is one of the best demos I've played! As a demo it's good (About half an hour, starts you at the beginning, lots of action). and the game itself is fun. :D

I haven't played it yet, but the Beautiful Katamari demo is out too, and worth playing. I'm not a guy who likes weird Japanese things, but that game is fun! (The first two, at least!)

[masterded]

Just got done catching up. Time to start the waiting game to see who will be the first to slip.

[Undertaker666]

Seeing as he's an experienced Mafia player, i'd like to see what SB's tactics are on the first day. :D

[jagilki]

After what feels like forever the 360 demo for BioShock has downloaded and im gonna go play that for a bit.. Will catch up on whats been happening in a few hours and see where to go from there

I just started downloading it.

[Wallbanger]

Seeing as he's an experienced Mafia player, i'd like to see what SB's tactics are on the first day. :D

You only said that because he's reading the thread, you sly Indian. :p

[Wallbanger]

Or maybe Samoan? :D

[Undertaker666]

You only said that because he's reading the thread, you sly Indian. :p

Is he? I hadn't noticed.... ;)

[SadisticBlessings]

Well, this feels... different... :D

At the moment, we don't really have anything to go on but blind luck. Just for argument's sake, though, I'll throw the usual argument out there for a bandwagon:

By not lynching, even on the first day, we're essentially wasting that day phase. As lynching is the only thing the town has power over, we really should use it. If we don't, we'll lose townies during the night. While you may think that this will be helpful, allowing us to pick out suspects, all the games I've modded and played have pretty much proven to me that it's nigh impossible to pick out mafia players based on this alone - "were they trying to set *blank* up, because he was arguing with *victim*? Or is *blank* really mafia, and he was banking on us thinking he'd never make himself such an obvious target like that?"

A random lynch also makes sense statistically, as it increases the odds that during the night phase one mafia will hit another. Likewise with our next day's lynch.

And there's also the off chance that we hit a mafia member today, or a serial killer. Worst case scenario, we're risking forcing a single roleclaim if we try a bandwagon. Even if it's an important role like a bodyguard or investigator, we probably have someone who can protect them tonight.

But honestly, so far not enough has gone on for me to become suspicious of anyone. I will say this, though: often a mafia member, especially the don, will be nearly inactive or post once or twice during the first and second days. Not a rule, just something I've noticed. It's easy to lay low with so many potential targets.

[Sensai of Mattitude]

But honestly, so far not enough has gone on for me to become suspicious of anyone. I will say this, though: often a mafia member, especially the don, will be nearly inactive or post once or twice during the first and second days. Not a rule, just something I've noticed. It's easy to lay low with so many potential targets.

That wasn't purposely, I swear. :o

[Undertaker666]

By not lynching, even on the first day, we're essentially wasting that day phase. As lynching is the only thing the town has power over, we really should use it. If we don't, we'll lose townies during the night.

We'll lose townies whether we lynch or not, but by lynching you're increasing the chances of lynching a townie and adding another to the body count that could've been avoided.

Worst case scenario, we're risking forcing a single roleclaim if we try a bandwagon. Even if it's an important role like a bodyguard or investigator, we probably have someone who can protect them tonight.

If that's the way you want to go, shall I be someone who gives a little information about myself? I'll probably sound even more guilty if I do that though....

Rock > Me < Hard place

[jbergey_2005]

We'll lose townies whether we lynch or not, but by lynching you're increasing the chances of lynching a townie and adding another to the body count that could've been avoided.



If that's the way you want to go, shall I be someone who gives a little information about myself? I'll probably sound even more guilty if I do that though....

Rock > Me < Hard place


Athough I tend to agree that you are in a tough spot UT. I wouldnt give out information and would hope that you will be protected. Oh how it must suck to be the Alex Rodriguez of mafia:)

[Pampero Firpo]

I dont like this. He has proved to be valuable and I am sure the roles were once again random. A blind lynch on UT would be the worst possible move at this point. He has been probably the most helpful townie in both games. Why would we want to lynch a person like this?

QFT. I didn't play in the first two games, but I did read through them a bit and it seems clear that UT is a strong player. If he is town (and odds are that he is), he is the type of person we want to keep around. Plus, if he is town he'll be a top target for the mafia and they'll likely snuff him out quick. If he's still around in a few days I might start suspecting he's scum just because he's alive, but for right now I think we should keep him around -- he's a poor choice for an essentially random day 1 lynch.

[Undertaker666]

Athough I tend to agree that you are in a tough spot UT. I wouldnt give out information and would hope that you will be protected. Oh how it must suck to be the Alex Rodriguez of mafia:)

I honestly wouldn't expect anyone to protect me during the first night. It's only the first day phase so I can't really do anything other than tell you i'm a townie, but in this game you can't take anyone at their word. Of course someone could investigate me during the night but then it'll probably be too late for me anyway.

I hate this game.... :D

[SadisticBlessings]

Frankly UT, at this point in the game I agree with you. Like I said, I was just throwing it out there because it's pretty much the standard argument for a first day lynching. That explanation is often just a front to give and excuse to target someone unpopular, but since machinesxe improved so much we don't really have a communal punching bag any more. :p

So, here's the usual rebuttal:

We have no real reason to suspect anyone. That being said, the most likely scenario is tomorrow the only things we'll have gained is knowledge of who a few now dead townies were. The chances of an investigator getting a mafia member tonight are small, so we'll essentially be right back where we are right now. A vote, however, gives us another thing to examine later on in the game, even this early on.

Whatever happens, I'd say attempting to lynch UT would be a poor choice. In my time modding I can assure you attempts on his life and investigations into his alignment were quite plentiful, and I'm sure they will be again. We'll find out who he is sooner or later.

Like I said, the best tactic is to pick out someone who has been laying low. Since the game only just started, there's nobody standing out right now. It's usually best wait a while before picking a target for a bandwagon, but unfortunately I'll be moving today and tomorrow and might not be able to help out there. I'll be back this weekend, though!

[nZane]

Well, this feels... different... :D

At the moment, we don't really have anything to go on but blind luck. Just for argument's sake, though, I'll throw the usual argument out there for a bandwagon:

By not lynching, even on the first day, we're essentially wasting that day phase. As lynching is the only thing the town has power over, we really should use it. If we don't, we'll lose townies during the night. While you may think that this will be helpful, allowing us to pick out suspects, all the games I've modded and played have pretty much proven to me that it's nigh impossible to pick out mafia players based on this alone - "were they trying to set *blank* up, because he was arguing with *victim*? Or is *blank* really mafia, and he was banking on us thinking he'd never make himself such an obvious target like that?"

A random lynch also makes sense statistically, as it increases the odds that during the night phase one mafia will hit another. Likewise with our next day's lynch.

And there's also the off chance that we hit a mafia member today, or a serial killer. Worst case scenario, we're risking forcing a single roleclaim if we try a bandwagon. Even if it's an important role like a bodyguard or investigator, we probably have someone who can protect them tonight.

But honestly, so far not enough has gone on for me to become suspicious of anyone. I will say this, though: often a mafia member, especially the don, will be nearly inactive or post once or twice during the first and second days. Not a rule, just something I've noticed. It's easy to lay low with so many potential targets.This is pretty much what I preached at the beginning of the last game, and I was a n00b at the time too. It just seems counterintuitive for townies to not use what is essentially their only tool to flush out the mafia: the lynch. However...
We'll lose townies whether we lynch or not, but by lynching you're increasing the chances of lynching a townie and adding another to the body count that could've been avoided.... this is also true. It's really a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If you lynch, the odds are pretty high that you'll hit a townie. However, if you don't lynch, then the odds are absolutely zero that you'll take out a mafia/individually aligned person. It's all comes down to individual preference. Personally, I think the potential reward is greater than the potential risk, so I'll advocate a bandwagon lynch. Just not this early in the dayphase, though...

Oh how it must suck to be the Alex Rodriguez of mafia:)With UT being a Brit and all, I'm not sure if he'll quite grasp the awesomeness of this quote. I love it, though, and I'm not even an A-Rod hater like seemingly everyone else!

[Undertaker666]

Whatever happens, I'd say attempting to lynch UT would be a poor choice. In my time modding I can assure you attempts on his life and investigations into his alignment were quite plentiful, and I'm sure they will be again. We'll find out who he is sooner or later.

Attempts on my life were plentiful eh, oh great, that fills me with confidence! :p

[nZane]

I should also mention that I am in no way suggesting that anyone try to bandwagon UT. Honestly, given his track record and instincts in the past two games, I'd start a bandwagon on myself before I tried to start one on him.

That's not to say that he isn't mafia. As I said earlier, he has about a 30% chance of being mafia/individual, just as the rest of us do. But unless he slips up majorly over the course of the next 24 hours or so, I just can't see a single reason to go after him at this early point.

[Wallbanger]

Might as well be playing Mornington Crescent at this point, for all we know in Day 1...

[Undertaker666]

With UT being a Brit and all, I'm not sure if he'll quite grasp the awesomeness of this quote. I love it, though, and I'm not even an A-Rod hater like seemingly everyone else!

No idea at all who Alex Rodriguez is. Baseball/Basketball/NFL/Ice Hockey player?

And i'm not British, i'm English. :p

I should also mention that I am in no way suggesting that anyone try to bandwagon UT. Honestly, given his track record and instincts in the past two games, I'd start a bandwagon on myself before I tried to start one on him.

I've already got an idea for one evil person, whether they be Mafia or an Individual.... I could pm Adam and see if I can win another Hawkeye award! :D

That's not to say that he isn't mafia. As I said earlier, he has about a 30% chance of being mafia/individual, just as the rest of us do. But unless he slips up majorly over the course of the next 24 hours or so, I just can't see a single reason to go after him at this early point.

Not likely is it. ;)

***************

There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that i'll be targeted during the night phase, the only way I can possibly survive it is if I do provide some information about my character.

[Clarity]

I'll tell you right now: That is one of the best demos I've played! As a demo it's good (About half an hour, starts you at the beginning, lots of action). and the game itself is fun. :D

I haven't played it yet, but the Beautiful Katamari demo is out too, and worth playing. I'm not a guy who likes weird Japanese things, but that game is fun! (The first two, at least!)

Your right. That was awesome.. I knew nothing of the game and the bit after the lift pleasantly surprised me. Between that and Eternal Sonata i should have games aplenty to weeks to come.

While i was the first to put a vote takers way, it was more based upon the idea that it was about time he towned up mafia.. Theres no proof either way of his allegience.

[The Aussie]

Attempts on my life were plentiful eh, oh great, that fills me with confidence! :p
Don't worry, It means you're popular.:D

[Undertaker666]

While i was the first to put a vote takers way, it was more based upon the idea that it was about time he towned up mafia.. Theres no proof either way of his allegience.

You're just scared of me really ain't ya. ;)

Don't worry, It means you're popular.:D

I imagine i'm not so popular with the people i've helped kill over the last two games! :D

[nZane]

No idea at all who Alex Rodriguez is. Baseball/Basketball/NFL/Ice Hockey player?Plays for the New York Yankees baseball team. Rivals David Beckham for highest paid athlete in the US. Is pretty much reviled throughout sports despite not really doing anything to deserve it (I don't live on the East Coast, so I'm indifferent to him).

And i'm not British, i'm English. :p Heh, my bad. But in the interest of education, care to explain the difference? I might show my complete ignorance here, but aren't you from England? And isn't England a part of Great Britain? Or is this more of a cultural thing, where the English don't like being associated with the Scottish and the Welsh?

[Clarity]

Heh, my bad. But in the interest of education, care to explain the difference? I might show my complete ignorance here, but aren't you from England? And isn't England a part of Great Britain? Or is this more of a cultural thing, where the English don't like being associated with the Scottish and the Welsh?

I think its the eqivilant of someone saying that there a texan instead of an american.

But yeah, im english and not british as well

[Undertaker666]

Heh, my bad. But in the interest of education, care to explain the difference? I might show my complete ignorance here, but aren't you from England? And isn't England a part of Great Britain? Or is this more of a cultural thing, where the English don't like being associated with the Scottish and the Welsh?

I don't want to take this thread off-topic so i'll just say that England is part of Great Britain/The United Kingdom, but Great Britain/The United Kingdom isn't a country.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Your right. That was awesome.. I knew nothing of the game and the bit after the lift pleasantly surprised me.

You mean the crazy thing that tried to kill you while you were unarmed and trapped in a steel bubble? That scared the crap out of me... If you weren't able to look around, it would've been less scary...

[mjdgoldeneye]

I've already got an idea for one evil person, whether they be Mafia or an Individual.... I could pm Adam and see if I can win another Hawkeye award! :D


Maybe you should PM me... :D

[Wallbanger]

Maybe you should PM me... :D

Is UT calling me out again? :eek:

[mjdgoldeneye]

Is UT calling me out again? :eek:

I wouldn't say either way... :p

I meant that Adam isn't a mod anymore, it's me and joose! We'll know if he's right.

[Undertaker666]

Maybe you should PM me... :D

Done.

Is UT calling me out again? :eek:

Maybe. ;)

I wouldn't say either way... :p

I meant that Adam isn't a mod anymore, it's me and joose! We'll know if he's right.

The only reason I told Adam my guesses last time was because he had no vested interest in the game, he was unbiased because he was outside of the game looking in.

[Clarity]

You mean the crazy thing that tried to kill you while you were unarmed and trapped in a steel bubble? That scared the crap out of me... If you weren't able to look around, it would've been less scary...

Yeah just after getting the first glimpse of the city. May have to try it in the dark next

[BIGJOSH]

WOW! I haven't been online all day and get on to see this game has advanced this far!

I promise not to do anything stupid like I did last game...

I think out best option at this point is to pick out a new player and begin to vote for them...don't lynch them just get a high number and make them defend themselves so we can see how they react.

Either that or sit around and see if anyone acts suspiscious.

[masterded]

WOW! I haven't been online all day and get on to see this game has advanced this far!

I promise not to do anything stupid like I did last game...

I think out best option at this point is to pick out a new player and begin to vote for them...don't lynch them just get a high number and make them defend themselves so we can see how they react.

Either that or sit around and see if anyone acts suspiscious.

To kind of play devil’s advocate, couldn’t we also go after someone who has been lynched in other games and see if/how they act differently this time?

[BIGJOSH]

To kind of play devil’s advocate, couldn’t we also go after someone who has been lynched in other games and see if/how they act differently this time?Yeah that would be a good idea as well.

[Minister Whitey]

Agh! I haven't been replaced yet have I? I got up to page 4 and feaked out!

I know I'm new but this game is the reason I actually made an account!

[BIGJOSH]

Agh! I haven't been replaced yet have I? I got up to page 4 and feaked out!

I know I'm new but this game is the reason I actually made an account!I don't think anyone has been replaced yet...

[theoutlaw321]

Agh! I haven't been replaced yet have I? I got up to page 4 and feaked out!

I know I'm new but this game is the reason I actually made an account!

I think you were close though. Good thing you spoke up, I think.

[Moe Hunter]

Woo, new game is on! Luckily I guess surviving last game has less prestige than the first - since twice as many people lived on and it was VERY close with people for whatever reasons still suspecting me... Good thing I remembered about Calamari Kid, otherwise I might have been lynched anyway!

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Alright, we have a TNA mafia (hopefully run by Russo, his ability will probably be to swerve and kill his own guys first) and presumably an nWo mafia (no doubt headed up by Hulk Hogan or Vincent). The real question in my mind is, which one does Kevin Nash fit into?

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Woo, new game is on! Luckily I guess surviving last game has less prestige than the first - since twice as many people lived on and it was VERY close with people for whatever reasons still suspecting me... Good thing I remembered about Calamari Kid, otherwise I might have been lynched anyway!

I think surviving with 7 people instead of 4 has more prestige- it means we did a better job of finding the mafia. So nobody vote for the "elite 7" until they do something suspicious, like tell you not to vote for them.

[The Aussie]

I think surviving with 7 people instead of 4 has more prestige- it means we did a better job of finding the mafia. So nobody vote for the "elite 7" until they do something suspicious, like tell you not to vote for them.
But if you don't remember, La Rebellion was somewhat of a joke in how the did. We only got one hit completed in the whole thing.

[sprinklefurball]

Should no doubt be a fun game, can't wait to see the outcome

but for now...

vote: no lynch

[jbergey_2005]

Should no doubt be a fun game, can't wait to see the outcome

but for now...

vote: no lynch

Hey Sprinkle

Can you bold that or it dont count, just add a new post with it bolded. If you edit posts you may get in trouble:) Have fun....

[sprinklefurball]

I'm sorry, this is my first game... so I'm oh such a N00b

:p

Vote: No Lynch

[theoutlaw321]

Vince’s limo pulls up to the small, 2-story office building where the meeting would be held. It was 8 PM and was dark already, as the sky was overcast. Mr. McMahon looks to his driver, “Wait here, I shouldn’t be more than 20 minutes to half an hour”.

The truth was that it would take barely 5 minutes. He walks up to the door. It’s dim inside, only about a third of the fluorescent ceiling lights are on. There is a sign on the door:

Hey, Mr. McMahon. I’ll be upstairs, third door on the left.

That seemed odd him. For a few seconds, he stands, holding the door handle, wondering why he’s here, wondering why it feels so eerie all of a sudden, and especially wondering why he is meeting this man at all… He’d had a rocky past with him, and didn’t understand why he had such a feeling of guilt. He decided to enter the building. His fate was sealed.

Vince headed upstairs, and to the third door on the left as suggested. He opened the door. The man was already in the room, sitting at a table, with his hands folded.

“Come on in, sit down.”

As quickly as Vince’s hand reached for the back of his chair, his assailant grabbed a small handgun from his lap. One shot to the head, one shot to the chest…

Vince was dead within 2 seconds. His attacker achieved his ultimate goal.


Just noticed this. 2 Story office building with a meeting on the third floor?

[theoutlaw321]

Disregard the above post, I just reread it after I accidently pushed the submit button.

It's been a long week.

[panix04]

I think surviving with 7 people instead of 4 has more prestige- it means we did a better job of finding the mafia. So nobody vote for the "elite 7" until they do something suspicious, like tell you not to vote for them.

Elite 7? I kinda like that! :D

PS Don't vote for me!

By the way after surviving the last game, albeit by the skin of my teeth, i think that the phrase "panixed" should be forever forgotten!

[Moe Hunter]

What's a "Panixed"? I know not of this :D

Elite sounds pretty good to me too, I must say. On that note, maybe it's time to down some beer - it's what the MVP (UT) does!

[panix04]

not at 8:34am he don't! Us English are slightly more refined then that, we genrally leave it till 9ish :D - coming from the slightly worse for wear Englishman sat in front of last nights empty guiness cans trying not to barf - FYI if you have mexican for lunch, try to avoid an indian for Tea, my house smells pretty bad right now!

[theoutlaw321]

i think that the phrase "panixed" should be forever forgotten!

I thought they already added the new definition to Webster's?

[Moe Hunter]

Pfft, I know a guy who drinks as soon as he wakes! His mouthwash is Jim Bean, he showers in Jack Daniels, and goes to bed with a nice glass of Famous Grouse.

It's the kind of person we like to call a "student" in New Zealand.

[The Aussie]

Pfft, I know a guy who drinks as soon as he wakes! His mouthwash is Jim Bean, he showers in Jack Daniels, and goes to bed with a nice glass of Famous Grouse.

It's the kind of person we like to call a "student" in New Zealand.
You're currently a student, are you not?

[Astil]

Astil, reporting for duty. Whats the update, as I dont wanna backtrack 10 pages at 4 am @.@

[panix04]

so far we have come to the conclusion that Moe's friends drink too much and we may or may not be lynching somebody today!

[BlueStar]

Vote: No Lynch

[theoutlaw321]

Vote: No Lynch

Can't think of anyone to bandwagon Yoshi? :D

[BlueStar]

I'm out of fishy ideas, outlaw...

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 4 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Clarity)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

And yup, Minister Whitey is in the game, he PM'ed me earlier today so all's good!

[Nevermore]

Can't think of anyone to bandwagon Yoshi? :D

Now's probably not a good time to say that I still haven't got the cash to pay you back for that pizza :D.

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

[Minister Whitey]

Pfft, I know a guy who drinks as soon as he wakes! His mouthwash is Jim Bean, he showers in Jack Daniels, and goes to bed with a nice glass of Famous Grouse.

It's the kind of person we like to call a "student" in New Zealand.

That's nothing. We Alaskans could drink you under the table! Our students steal Vodka direct from Russia! And bathe in it, too.

On that note, Vote: No Lynch

[theoutlaw321]

Skimping on the food in the Deadman's lounge still? You didn't mind eating it did you? Hmm? Let's see if I remember who all had to come up with a share to cover your part? There may be enough to lynch you right off the start. lol
:D

[Nevermore]

I can't be the first in the lounge, man. I'll starve!

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

[theoutlaw321]

You should think of that before you stiff us again. :D

[Undertaker666]

On that note, maybe it's time to down some beer - it's what the MVP (UT) does!

You've discovered my secret weapon! :eek: :D

I don't care what any scientist says, beer's good for the brain. Now if I could only remember which thread i'm supposed to be posting this in....

[Pampero Firpo]

I don't agree with the no lynch path. We townies need information and a lynch, even a mostly random one, gives us more information than no lynch. At the very least we need to put a few people close to the edge and see how they react. Just plodding along and going with a no lynch will just delay having to pull the trigger until tomorrow while allowing the mafia(s) to get an extra night's killing in.

I think we need to start a bandwagon on someone and try to elicit information, even if we eventually pull back from lynching them. I'm not sure who to go for at this point, but I'm going to reread the posts and see if I can identify anyone who raises my suspicion a little bit. If not, I'll probably vote for an inactive player to either get them posting or to at least mitigate our loss if we accidentally hang a townie. Besides, scum tend to try and lay low so a lynch of a quiet player has a slightly better chance of getting a mafia member.

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 5 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Clarity)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[The Aussie]

I don't agree with the no lynch path. We townies need information and a lynch, even a mostly random one, gives us more information than no lynch. At the very least we need to put a few people close to the edge and see how they react. Just plodding along and going with a no lynch will just delay having to pull the trigger until tomorrow while allowing the mafia(s) to get an extra night's killing in.

I think we need to start a bandwagon on someone and try to elicit information, even if we eventually pull back from lynching them. I'm not sure who to go for at this point, but I'm going to reread the posts and see if I can identify anyone who raises my suspicion a little bit. If not, I'll probably vote for an inactive player to either get them posting or to at least mitigate our loss if we accidentally hang a townie. Besides, scum tend to try and lay low so a lynch of a quiet player has a slightly better chance of getting a mafia member.
Small problem with your logic mate, sometimes we are unable to post due to time reasons. I got lynched in the first game during my sleep and I'm pretty sure that whoever cast the decider copped a lot of flak for it.

I'm also going to be away for this Sunday and Monday up at Mount Bullar, telling this in advance.

[Undertaker666]

I think we need to start a bandwagon on someone and try to elicit information, even if we eventually pull back from lynching them.

Good idea.

Vote=Pampero Firpo

[Pampero Firpo]

Small problem with your logic mate, sometimes we are unable to post due to time reasons. I got lynched in the first game during my sleep and I'm pretty sure that whoever cast the decider copped a lot of flak for it.

I'm also going to be away for this Sunday and Monday up at Mount Bullar, telling this in advance.

You're absolutely right, it is a hole in the logic and this is far from a foolproof strategy. However, it's day one and we've got very little else to go on. Inactivity isn't a reliable tell by any means, but it's better than random.

Vote: Assumed

[The Aussie]

You're absolutely right, it is a hole in the logic and this is far from a foolproof strategy. However, it's day one and we've got very little else to go on. Inactivity isn't a reliable tell by any means, but it's better than random.

Vote: Assumed
It's definetly always good to start with a lynch so that theres one potential target gone but It can backfire, the hatred of Panix04 trollish behaviour in game one saw the one shot vigilante go down hard.

But, knowing Panix. He would use it on himself for a joke.

BTW, There are currently two invisible readers.

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 5 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Assumed - 3 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

Pampero Firpo - 1 (Undertaker666)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[joose2001]

On the note of inactive players.
Be aware that Machinesxe had allready stated before the game even started that he would be away untill Saturday night / Sunday morning.

As far as I know, hes the only one that would be away at the moment

[Undertaker666]

BTW, There are currently two invisible readers.

One's probably that mischievous Clarity trying to cause paranoia.... :p

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Vote: Assumed

A new poster named Assumed.... Clearly an assumed identity by a current poster who is trying to lay low and be evil.

[Undertaker666]

If you're going to bandwagon someone, at least bandwagon someone who's posted. You could very well be wasting your time in trying to bandwagon Assumed.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

If you're going to bandwagon someone, at least bandwagon someone who's posted. You could very well be wasting your time in trying to bandwagon Assumed.

So it's you who has the assumed identity, has been PM'ed two roles, and is playing both sides!

[Wallbanger]

If you're going to bandwagon someone, at least bandwagon someone who's posted. You could very well be wasting your time in trying to bandwagon Assumed.

Damnit, I was going to vote for the Big Smack Machine. :D

Ah well. Let's see if any of these early bandwagons catches on.

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 5 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Assumed - 4 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

Pampero Firpo - 1 (Undertaker666)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[Undertaker666]

So it's you who has the assumed identity, has been PM'ed two roles, and is playing both sides!

That would be fun to do, i'd twist you all in so many ways! :D

But no, i'm not Assumed. Or am I? Paranoia's a dangerous thing.... ;)

[trypio]

I think it doesn't really make much of a difference what we do the first day. Either way, we're f*cked.

If we do the bandwagon vote people have to come out of their shell and that way a perhaps useful townie has to reveal himself and make himself a prime target for night hits. And if the bandwagon goes through, we'll most likely lynch a townie.

If we don't (try to) lynch anyone during the day we're just waiting for the night phase in which we'll probably get to know a name or two about who's in the mafia and a few townies that get killed. Since no one told who he is yet those names we get to know are worth nothing and we're as much in the dark as on day 1.

So, I'm gonna go with whatever the majority goes for. As I think both options have plusses and minusses.

[Undertaker666]

What I find amusing is that in the last two games I suggested that we go for a No Lynch and everyone jumped all over me. We've now got five people in this game who've gone for a No Lynch and has anyone jumped on them like I was?! :rolleyes:

[Pampero Firpo]

- Elimination occurs after 48 hours, or whenever a person obtains more than 50% of the vote. In case of a tie, the latest vote will be discounted, until the tie is broken. Once a person dies, I will reveal their alignment and role.


I take this to mean if we haven't topped 50% by the deadline there will still be a lynching of the player with the most votes. Is this correct? I only ask because I believe in the last game this would result in a no lynch.

[theoutlaw321]

Assumed was online yesterday, after the thread was opened. I have no idea if he appeared in the thread or not as I was looking at the back of my eyelids at the time. But like Taker stated he hasn't posted as of yet so a bandwagon to force him offer up some info may be futile.

[BIGJOSH]

Why Pamper Firpino UT666?

Just because he's new?

[theoutlaw321]

I take this to mean if we haven't topped 50% by the deadline there will still be a lynching of the player with the most votes. Is this correct? I only ask because I believe in the last game this would result in a no lynch.

joose?

[Crychon]

I think I'm going to jump on a bandwagon right now, but there's plenty of time for me to get rid of this vote, so there's no problem.

Vote: Assumed

Now, speaking of quiet... I'm not sure if he has been on at all, but if he has... Arrows has been rather quiet, which, obviously, is rather odd for him.

[Undertaker666]

Why Pamper Firpino UT666?

Just because he's new?

Why not? He suggested that we should bandwagon someone so why not let it be a person who suggested it?

[theoutlaw321]

Now, speaking of quiet... I'm not sure if he has been on at all, but if he has... Arrows has been rather quiet, which, obviously, is rather odd for him.

Was wondering that myself. But I thought that joose said that a couple of players were on vacation. Couldn't remember if he had said who or not.

[sprinklefurball]

As far as vacations go: sat - wednesday I'm only gonna be on early in the morning and late at night EST time, the motel I'm going to be staying at (hopefully) has wireless.

[joose2001]

I take this to mean if we haven't topped 50% by the deadline there will still be a lynching of the player with the most votes. Is this correct? I only ask because I believe in the last game this would result in a no lynch.

I really dont know, I hope its worded wrong as nothings been said to me about it! And Im the one handling the days

As far as Im concerned its still the way that it was
In that if a majority IS NOT reached by the deadline, then noone gets lynched.


Was wondering that myself. But I thought that joose said that a couple of players were on vacation. Couldn't remember if he had said who or not.

As far as I know, it was only Machinesxe..... Arrows may be, I personaly dont know

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 5 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Assumed - 5 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me, Crychon)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

Pampero Firpo - 1 (Undertaker666)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[nZane]

What I find amusing is that in the last two games I suggested that we go for a No Lynch and everyone jumped all over me. We've now got five people in this game who've gone for a No Lynch and has anyone jumped on them like I was?! :rolleyes:Fine, I'll do the honors.

Vote: Infinitywpi

He was the first to vote no lynch and did so very early into the first day phase. In fact, I believe he voted in only the 19th post of the game! A no lynch is somewhat acceptable on the first day, but we should at least try to get some information out of people. It's much easier to vote later on if you have some quote-worthy posts to back yourself up.

Case in point:Vote: No Lynch 'cause with this many people, I'm confident I'm not going to die tonight, but I don't want to tick off someone important by voting for them at random.So, if you don't want to tick someone off by voting for them, then why vote at all? A no lynch vote that early in the game just makes you seem suspicious.

[joose2001]

No rest for the wicked :p

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 5 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Assumed - 5 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me, Crychon)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

Pampero Firpo - 1 (Undertaker666)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[panix04]

It's definetly always good to start with a lynch so that theres one potential target gone but It can backfire, the hatred of Panix04 trollish behaviour in game one saw the one shot vigilante go down hard.

Hatred, bit strong ain't it? I don't think anyone hated it, i just confused peeps! :D

[Moe Hunter]

I don't care what any scientist says, beer's good for the brain.

Hell yeah it is!

Good idea.

Vote=Pampero Firpo

I love it!

Vote=Pampero Firpo

You're currently a student, are you not?

Had I mentioned that before? I guess I must have. It's hard to tell really, I'm mostly extramural at the moment. I only get one day a week of campus life, so I do my best to make the most of it ;)

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

NO LYNCH - 5 (infinitywpi, jbergy_2005, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Assumed - 5 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me, Crychon)

Pampero Firpo - 2 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter)

Crychon - 1 (jagilki)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[Undertaker666]

I love it!

Vote=Pampero Firpo

That's two votes now, all aboard the Pampero train, choo choo! :D

[Moe Hunter]

Wait, is this a train or a wagon? Oh I'm in over my head with confusion. Maybe I should stop drinking.... Wait, I shouldn't listen to me - I'm drunk!

[jbergey_2005]

Very interested we have the majority wanting a no lynch, we have people being voted for the are pushing the lynch and a vote for the person that is pushing for a no lynch. I believe in at least one of the previous versions of mafia in which Infinity was out enemy he was pushing for lynches so I am not voting that way. This seems opposite of how he acted previously as he was always pushing for lynches.

I do find it somewhat unusual that the rookie is wanting a lynch. Therefore I am going to

Change vote:Pampero Firpo

[nZane]

So, we've got a group of drunks trying to lynch someone, huh?

Christ, it's like my family reunion all over again...

[Undertaker666]

Wait, is this a train or a wagon? Oh I'm in over my head with confusion. Maybe I should stop drinking.... Wait, I shouldn't listen to me - I'm drunk!

You shouldn't listen to you anyway because that means you're talking to yourself! :p

Seeing as i'll be dead by the next day phase I think you should all honour a dead man's wishes and vote for Pampero.... at least then i'll be able to have some sort of impact in this game. :D

[jagilki]

I'm going to unvote: Crychon it was half random, and half a joke anyways. Let me catch up before I place a more serious vote.

[joose2001]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
You lot are like the weather here today!

VOTING SO FAR...

Assumed - 5 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me, Crychon)

NO LYNCH - 4 (infinitywpi, sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Pampero Firpo - 3 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[jagilki]

Bandwagon/UT's Train Vote: Pampero Firpo

[Undertaker666]

Start preparing your defence Pampero.... ;)

[Crychon]

Well it looks like this PF vote is picking up some steam, so I'll jump over onto that bandwagon. Yee haw!

Change Vote: Pampero Firpo

[infinitywpi]

Changevote: nZane

I was going to do this three pages before he voted for me, since we had to start somewhere... but since he voted for me, I don't feel bad about doing it. I still think we're going to end up not lynching someone... but if voting for him makes me less suspicious, eh, I'll do it.

[nZane]

Changevote: nZane

I was going to do this three pages before he voted for me, since we had to start somewhere... but since he voted for me, I don't feel bad about doing it. I still think we're going to end up not lynching someone... but if voting for him makes me less suspicious, eh, I'll do it.Yeah, seeing as I was the one who thought you were suspicious for wanting a no lynch so early on, casting a vote for me just makes you more suspicious in my eyes.

[Wallbanger]

Looks like the UT Express is going Itallian...get on the railroad! :D

Vote: Pampero Firpo

[i effin rule]

We all know I'm not a fan of the no lynch therefor my vote goes with the bandwagon. I figure Taker generally has good intuition so why not right?

Vote: Pampero Firpo

[Astil]

Vote: Pampero Firpo

As a former Don, I know our strategy was to lay a spark and let the town ignite the fire. Here, we have a spark layer.

[nZane]

The more I think about this, the more I don't like it.

You go from this:Vote: No Lynch 'cause with this many people, I'm confident I'm not going to die tonight, but I don't want to tick off someone important by voting for them at random.
To this:Changevote: nZane

I was going to do this three pages before he voted for me, since we had to start somewhere... but since he voted for me, I don't feel bad about doing it. I still think we're going to end up not lynching someone... but if voting for him makes me less suspicious, eh, I'll do it.You think a no lynch is good because you "don't want to tick off someone important by voting for them at random." But after someone calls you out on that, you make an almost immediate switch to a proactive voter because "we had to start somewhere." We're not even 24 hours into the game and we've already got someone talking out of both sides of their mouth!

And the "I was going to do this three pages before he voted for me" part was just amusing to me. Yeah, you were going to change your vote all along. You just failed to mention that until right after someone called you out. How convenient...

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

Pampero Firpo - 8 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005, jagilki, crychon, wallbanger, i effin rule, astil)

Assumed - 4 (Panix04, Clarity, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me)

NO LYNCH - 3 (sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

nZane - 1 (Infinitywpi)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)[/QUOTE]

[Undertaker666]

Eight votes for Pampero so far then.... if it gets close to the magic number we should hold any more voting and see what he has to say.

[Clarity]

*about the invisibles*

One's probably that mischievous Clarity trying to cause paranoia.... :p
I dont think i was online at that time though. As a show of faith, i will switch to visable if you like. But if i get loads of render questions, im gonna be a very unhappy bunny

[Clarity]

Vote Change: Pampero Firpo

Reason: New member and apparently lynching noobies is all the rage these days

[Pampero Firpo]

UT, I'd like to know why you're targeting me. You were town in the first two games and a leading proponent of no lynch on the first day. Now in this game you start a day 1 bandwagon.

Game 1: UT = townie = argues no lynch
Game 2: UT = townie = argues no lynch
Game 3: UT = ?????? = argues for lynch and starts bandwagon

Hmmmm.

[Clarity]

oh and Pampero Firpo is online now so hopefully we should hear what he has to say

[Undertaker666]

UT, I'd like to know why you're targeting me. You were town in the first two games and a leading proponent of no lynch on the first day. Now in this game you start a day 1 bandwagon.

Game 1: UT = townie = argues no lynch
Game 2: UT = townie = argues no lynch
Game 3: UT = ?????? = argues for lynch and starts bandwagon

Hmmmm.

I said earlier in the thread that as a town we should go for a No Lynch and I still feel that's the best method on the first day. Lots of people disagreed, you being one of them, and said that we should push someone for information. If you're going to suggest things then you have to expect people to question you too.

I'm not even saying we should lynch you, i'm actually following your lead and pushing someone (you) to provide information. ;)

[trypio]

Well, seems like Pampero is rather trying to put suspicion on someone else rather than giving us information about himself and the bandwagon is starting to get some following, so I think I'll jump on as well.

Vote: Pampero Firpo

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

Pampero Firpo - 10 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005, jagilki, crychon, wallbanger, i effin rule, astil, Clarity, Trypio)

Assumed - 3 (Panix04, Pampero Firpo, Mr T Jobs To Me)

NO LYNCH - 3 (sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

nZane - 1 (Infinitywpi)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[nZane]

While I like my vote where it is right now, I thought I should mention that I'm all for this bandwagon against Pampero. His reply to UT certainly didn't help his case any, either.

[Clarity]

Vote Change: No Vote

The number is getting a bit high and we still have plenty of time left. Before we know it we will have a few people suddenly bandwagon vote and he is lynched before we have any information

[Pampero Firpo]

I said earlier in the thread that as a town we should go for a No Lynch and I still feel that's the best method on the first day. Lots of people disagreed, you being one of them, and said that we should push someone for information. If you're going to suggest things then you have to expect people to question you too.

I'm not even saying we should lynch you, i'm actually following your lead and pushing someone (you) to provide information. ;)
Good answer, UT -- I would have been monumentally suspicious if you backtracked on your "no lynch" position. But you're too smart to give yourself away so obviously.

I've got no problem being questioned or being the first target, because it's got to be someone for the good of the town. Of course if you have no real reason for suspecting me, it makes it rather difficult to defend myself. Until I get something specific to defend against, I'll ask everyone to look through my posts and ask yourself: "Does this seem like the actions of someone on the town's side or someone in the mafia?"
I do find it somewhat unusual that the rookie is wanting a lynch.
I may be a rookie here, but that doesn't mean I don't have experience elsewhere. ;) As for wanting a lynch -- yes, I do. As I explained, I think it's in the best interest of the town. I think most people agree that a day 1 lynch is good for the town, so why is my suggesting it unusual?
As a former Don, I know our strategy was to lay a spark and let the town ignite the fire. Here, we have a spark layer.
Good point, which raises a question. If you think the current mafia is doing this, why are you playing into their strategy if you're town?

[masterded]

Can't miss the chance to be part of a first day lynch bandwagon that UTR started, could I?

No,vote:Pampero Firpo

[Undertaker666]

Good answer, UT -- I would have been monumentally suspicious if you backtracked on your "no lynch" position. But you're too smart to give yourself away so obviously.

I've got no problem being questioned or being the first target, because it's got to be someone for the good of the town. Of course if you have no real reason for suspecting me, it makes it rather difficult to defend myself. Until I get something specific to defend against, I'll ask everyone to look through my posts and ask yourself: "Does this seem like the actions of someone on the town's side or someone in the mafia?"

So what specific thing would you be asking someone that you suspected? Nothing, because at this stage we know nothing about anyone. This is why I suggest a No Lynch, otherwise it's just pointing the finger at someone for the sake of it.

But then again, you could give us information about your role, any abilities that you have etc.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Strike up the band..... wagon.

Change vote: Pampero Firpo

[Pampero Firpo]

Since I'm on the hot seat I want to let everyone know that I'll be leaving in about 45 minutes and will have sporadic access over the weekend. I'll try to log on late tonight or early tomorrow to defend myself, but I'd love to defend any specific suspicions you have right now if possible.

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

Pampero Firpo - 11 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005, jagilki, crychon, wallbanger, i effin rule, astil, Trypio, masterded, Mr T Jobs To Me)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Pampero Firpo, )

NO LYNCH - 3 (sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

nZane - 1 (Infinitywpi)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[jagilki]

Unvote:

The bandwagon is great and all. I've been a proponent for day one lynch in every game I've played, however, I've played in more small games (7-10 players) and I think it's more in those games that you need a day one lynch.

[Clarity]

Currently voted are in bold:

1. Outlaw321
2. Bigjosh
3. Undertaker666
4. Crychon
5. Assumed
6. Jagilki
7. Gonvick
8. Masterded
9. Sprinklefurball
10. The Aussie
11. Wallbanger
12. NickC13573
13. i effin rule
14. Moe Hunter
15. BlueStar
16. panix04
17. nZane
18. trypio
19. Arrows
20. Minister Whitey
21. Pampero Firpo
22. TheEdgeOfReason
23. infinitywpi
24. Nevermore
25. Clarity
26. Sensai of Mattitude
27. Mr T Jobs To Me
28. machinesxe
29. Thomnipotent
30. Sadistic Blessings
31. Astil
32. jbergey_2005

Arrows silence is a little worrying and he is invisible it seems. He might have been the one Taker thought was me

[Astil]

Good point, which raises a question. If you think the current mafia is doing this, why are you playing into their strategy if you're town?

Im not. Those who start the spark specificly dont name anyone. You did this. So in my logic, you didnt think it'd get back to you.

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

Pampero Firpo - 10 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005, crychon, wallbanger, i effin rule, astil, Trypio, masterded, Mr T Jobs To Me)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Pampero Firpo, )

NO LYNCH - 3 (sprinklefurball, Bluestar, Minister Whitey)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

nZane - 1 (Infinitywpi)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

*damn you lot and your indecisiveness!! :D

[Pampero Firpo]

So what specific thing would you be asking someone that you suspected? Nothing, because at this stage we know nothing about anyone.
I don't agree that we know nothing (boy I hate double negatives). I think the best course is to look at previous posts to try and find some scum tell. Granted, at this stage any suspicions are mostly speculative, but you can try to make an educated guess. For example, you started a bandwagon after arguing previously that no lynch was a better strategy. That inconsistency could be a scum tell -- so I raised the suspicion to you for your response. Similarly, it's a common scum strategy to lay low, so people who just lurk and make one or two posts that don't really add to the conversation could be mafia. Again, they're not great leads, but I think they're better than a pure random lynch. So that's what I'm asking -- have I said anything that has raised your suspicion that I can address, or is your targeting of me purely random?

[mjdgoldeneye]

OK, I'm on now...

I jacked those rules from SB, and only changed words like "CVerse" to "WWE".

They were worded that way before, and nothing has changed. You still need 17 to lynch! (Joose's vote counts have stated this as well!)

[jagilki]

Similarly, it's a common scum strategy to lay low, so people who just lurk and make one or two posts that don't really add to the conversation could be mafia.

It's early in the game, this might be barking up the wrong tree and it's been mentioned before.

This is really making me start to wonder about Arrows. After his performance in the last game, his silence is deafening.

[BlueStar]

This guy is confusing me more than I was confusing myself in last game...are you Italian?!

[Undertaker666]

I don't agree that we know nothing

So what do we know during the first day phase? We don't know how many are Mafia, how many are Individuals, if there are any seperate groups, no ability information or even how many townies we have. So we know.... nothing!

I think the best course is to look at previous posts to try and find some scum tell.

True, and to me, suggesting that we bandwagon someone on the first day is scum tell. I'm just putting you in the position of the person you wanted to bandwagon.

Similarly, it's a common scum strategy to lay low, so people who just lurk and make one or two posts that don't really add to the conversation could be mafia.

That is a common strategy so it's more likely that the Mafia would be out in the open so as to avoid suspicion.

So that's what I'm asking -- have I said anything that has raised your suspicion that I can address, or is your targeting of me purely random?

If there was, do you really think i'd tell you? If I don't tell you then you might do it again. ;)

[Arrows]

*Smirks.*

Yea, I'm here.

Yea, I'm the Invisible man too. Don't be worried by my silence, I've just been busy lately. Catching up on this thread now.

[Wallbanger]

It's early in the game, this might be barking up the wrong tree and it's been mentioned before.

This is really making me start to wonder about Arrows. After his performance in the last game, his silence is deafening.

Arrows has played both sides and is no slouch either way. In my mind he falls into the "Not Day 1" lot with UT and the other demonstrably skilled players.

Yes, his silence is peculiar, because it is definitely counter to his previous play style. If a groundswell of votes starts collecting around him, I'll consider the options. For the moment, I think I'm good.

[BlueStar]

Yeah, ...., no, ...., yes, this Vampiro Jericho's confusing my semi-drunk brain. Too defensive for my liking...and he can quote messages! I tells ya...people who can quote, always, euhm...yeah.

No, seriously, why are you being so defensive already, PF?

Change Vote : Pampero Firpo

[Wallbanger]

Why'd you have to go and post while I was writing a post about how you weren't posting? :D

[jagilki]

*Smirks.*

Yea, I'm here.

Yea, I'm the Invisible man too. Don't be worried by my silence, I've just been busy lately. Catching up on this thread now.

That's all I needed to hear. After your performance in RK3 (where you could of won the damn game for the town, if only they would of listened to you) I'm glad you're here.

I was more worried about you being awol from the game than anything.

[mjdgoldeneye]

VOTING SO FAR...

Pampero Firpo - 12 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005, jagilki, crychon, wallbanger, i effin rule, astil, Trypio, masterded, Mr T Jobs To Me, BlueStar)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Pampero Firpo, )

NO LYNCH - 2 (sprinklefurball, Minister Whitey)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

nZane - 1 (Infinitywpi)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[Clarity]

I wonder if im gonna win the award for most indecisive..

Looks like the Pampero Firpo bandwagon is picking up steam.

No offence bud but....

Vote Change: Pampero Firpo

[Pampero Firpo]

At this point I don't know what else to say to defend myself. I realize the danger of a day 1 lynch is that you could get an innocent -- which is very likely to happen to me. However, I still think it's a sound strategy and if I get sacrificed mistakenly then it's my bad luck.

As an aside, I do think jagilki raises an interesting point about game size. Like him, I usually play in small games -- a game of this size might require a different day 1 strategy.

As my final defense I would ask you to look at my posts -- I've been trying to press the discussion and elicit information, things which are good for the town. If you think that's scummy, then you should vote for me. While I would hate to do so, I will role-claim before lynching if that's the only chance of saving my neck.

[Pampero Firpo]

No, seriously, why are you being so defensive already, PF?
Simply because I've got 12 votes and don't want to die. I will say this, the strategy of eliciting information by bandwagoning somebody is working. The only downside, of course, is that it's working against me... :p

[Undertaker666]

I've been trying to press the discussion and elicit information, things which are good for the town. If you think that's scummy, then you should vote for me. While I would hate to do so, I will role-claim before lynching if that's the only chance of saving my neck.

That's all i'm doing is trying to get information, I did ask you to provide any information you could about your role or any abilities that you have.

[Pampero Firpo]

Well, as my last post before heading out, I will reveal my role. I am

Ric Flair, WWE Aligned Well-Respected Legend

I'm going to hold off on revealing any of my powers. I'll try to get on tomorrow morning.

[Undertaker666]

So you're one of the Four Horsemen, a seperatist group.... let's get 'im boys....

[jagilki]

I feel bad for whoever may be Chris Benoit :(

[infinitywpi]

Yeah, seeing as I was the one who thought you were suspicious for wanting a no lynch so early on, casting a vote for me just makes you more suspicious in my eyes.

Last game, I wanted to vote for people right away, and people thought -that- was suspicious. This game, I try to support the no-lynch that happens every single game, and -that- makes me suspicious. I can't win!

And the "I was going to do this three pages before he voted for me" part was just amusing to me. Yeah, you were going to change your vote all along. You just failed to mention that until right after someone called you out. How convenient...

Yeah, well, there were nine pages of posts for me to read this morning.

So you're one of the Four Horsemen, a seperatist group.... let's get 'im boys....

....

Changevote: Undertaker666 Sorry, man, but without a smiley in that line, it just screams Mafia.

[Clarity]

Not ready to change my vote just yet but i found this a little suspicious

Sensai of Mattitude has been into this thread twice in the last half hour or so, and looked at other threads in between. He isn't voicing an opinion and could be laying low

[Undertaker666]

Changevote: Undertaker666 Sorry, man, but without a smiley in that line, it just screams Mafia.

a) You're entitled to your vote but I doubt anyone townies would want to vote me off during the first day in the hope that i'm a townie again.

b) Someone who votes for a survivor of the two previous games during the first day is arguably a bit worried about the playing power of the survivor. Suspicious much?

c) When have you ever seen me use the phrase "let's get 'im boys" in a serious fashion?! :rolleyes:

[jagilki]

Uhm... that one time when you had too much to drink?

[joose2001]

VOTING SO FAR...

Pampero Firpo - 12 (Undertaker666, Moe Hunter, jbergy_2005, crychon, wallbanger, i effin rule, astil, Trypio, masterded, Mr T Jobs To Me, Bluestar, Clarity)

Assumed - 2 (Panix04, Pampero Firpo, )

NO LYNCH - 2 (sprinklefurball, Minister Whitey)

Infinitywpi - 1 (nZane)

Undertaker666 - 1 (Infinitywpi)

blah blah, 17 to lynch / no lynch
You have untill 5pm EST / 10pm GMT TOMORROW (18th August)

[Undertaker666]

Uhm... that one time when you had too much to drink?

a) I've never used that phrase before, in a serious fashion or otherwise!

b) I haven't touched a drop, plans have changed so i'm not going out tonight.

[masterded]

He clamed Ric Flair which is someone we know to be in the game. So I say we wait a little bit. If someone else claims to also be Flair then we lynch him, if no one else does we let him live.

[Clarity]

a) I've never used that phrase before, in a serious fashion or otherwise!

b) I haven't touched a drop, plans have changed so i'm not going out tonight.
So your settling in with late night bravo and a couple of Hustler then :D

[Sensai of Mattitude]

Sensai of Mattitude has been into this thread twice in the last half hour or so, and looked at other threads in between. He isn't voicing an opinion and could be laying low

That's just how I play. :D Even for the part of the last game when I was town I played like that. I just don't feel as if I have anything to contribute at this moment, and since PF has already roleclaimed and appears to be town I'm not gonna be jumping on the bandwagon.

[Clarity]

That's just how I play. :D Even for the part of the last game when I was town I played like that. I just don't feel as if I have anything to contribute at this moment, and since PF has already roleclaimed and appears to be town I'm not gonna be jumping on the bandwagon.

Im just looking for anything suspicious and it made you post something at least.. :D

[jbergey_2005]

Well, as my last post before heading out, I will reveal my role. I am

Ric Flair, WWE Aligned Well-Respected Legend

I'm going to hold off on revealing any of my powers. I'll try to get on tomorrow morning.

I think this makes it pretty obvious that he is telling the truth about his who his character is and at this point I have no reason to doubt Flair.

Change Vote:No lynch