Cornellverse '08?

[The Franchise]

With a new TEW comes the really big, "oh snap!" changes to the Cornellverse most of us use and love. The last time we saw the Cornellverse was January of 2007 and I assume when the game is released the Cornellverse will be based around June of '08. So that's over a year that's passed with possible big things happening. So, what do you think or hope has changed since then? Have the big promotions picked up any Indy Scene Darlings? Will we see folks who were in the TEW 07 New Worker section make it into the main game? Has DAVE finally collapsed? So much could've happened, so while we wait for more info, let's speculate. Just for poops and giggles.

Just to get the ball rolling, here are a couple of things I could see happening:

Frankie Perez goes to DAVE (if it hasn't gone bankrupt)
A big name, old school guy passes away (Ed DeColt, I'm looking at you!).
A new promotion opens in Europe or the US.
5SSW or AAA gets some competition with a new women's wrestling company.
DAVE finally falls to financial issues, but a newer, more fast paced company rises from it's ashes.

[NickC13573]

I think DAVE and MAW will find its niche's and become big

[TheEdgeOfReason]

-Sean McFly has finished with Victoria Stone and left NOTBPW who have expanded south towards the US.
-either Rip Chord has died or MAW are flying in cult.
-USPW has collapsed.
-Jim Force is back wth SWF where he is nearly main eventing.

[Wallbanger]

Why does no one believe Sean and Victoria can be happy together?

Honestly, in most CornellVerse speculation I read, folks believe that Sean and Victoria end up divorcing, leading to Sean's departure from NOTBPW.

[Midnightnick]

-DAVE will be on it's dying days, where people like Hell's Bouncer and Nathan Coleman are maineventing (Not that there's anything wrong with Bouncer)

-NYCW will finally get with the times and pull a coup of DAVE Talent, making it pretty much NYCDave.

-Wraith Of God will become offical C-Verse Canon.

-WEXXV will either close up shop, or have a total revival.

-Someone major will die. (coughDanStoneorRipChordcough)

-The UK Scene will be just as barren as ever.

-One Mexican Promotion will make a stand in the US. Preferably MPWF.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

It's the same as when some people believe that Paul and Steph won't end up together and that he will leave the 'E. It's too big pf a plot not to happen eventually, imo.

[Clarity]

I think Ring Of Fire will be either on its last legs or gone entirely.

And i think Rip Chord will still be going.. I reckon he is like the ol' Queen mum.. Everyone thought she was going to live forever. The death will probably be an up-and-comer..

[cappyboy]

It's the same as when some people believe that Paul and Steph won't end up together and that he will leave the 'E. It's too big pf a plot not to happen eventually, imo.

Plus there's the little factor of McFly being really awesome and the tantalizing notion of him being a free agent or in a higher profile promotion after the divorce. Folks are eager to get him in marquee promotion to challenge a Cornell or a Christian Faith

[Marcel Fromage]

I think Ring Of Fire will be either on its last legs or gone entirely.

Noooo.....what would I do?! I might have to take charge of...gulp...MOSC or something!

In all seriousness I'll be interested to see if the changes in the C-Verse 08 are similar to the changes we see when we play a game with TEW07. We all now have an idea that the likes of ROF and WEXXV collapse by June 08. But will it happen in the official version?

[GDE71]

I'm actually starting to make money playing WEXXV in mid-July I think.

[Clarity]

Noooo.....what would I do?! I might have to take charge of...gulp...MOSC or something!

In all seriousness I'll be interested to see if the changes in the C-Verse 08 are similar to the changes we see when we play a game with TEW07. We all now have an idea that the likes of ROF and WEXXV collapse by June 08. But will it happen in the official version?

Its either that of ROF change there product and gain some success

[Woodsmeister]

i dont want to see the end of ROF, they are my fed, i was always 21CW before they went 'S.E.' so i kind of hope they stay similar or are in further trouble as i love the challange.

[PoisonedSuperman]

I think USPW will be the 2nd biggest promotion in the US behind SWF who will be ginormous and TCW will be right on hte heels of USPW. With DAVE finally dying.

[James Casey]

21CW seem ripe for an overexpansion storyline to me - it'd almost be a scenario: Save this company from being WCW-lite.

[NickC13573]

if adam put in scenario's that would be cool

[gingarob]

I think Marc DuBois will have become a drug addict and, after being fired, will be floating around the lower US and Canadian indy feds :P

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Big Smack Scott- SWF Champion.

[Dragonmack]

Big Smack Scott- SWF Champion.

I have already had that happen in my Cornellverse. Richard Eisen thought it was such a bad move, he had Scott drop the belt in his first defense back to his golden boy Eric.

[Blackman]

Frankie Perez goes to DAVE (if it hasn't gone bankrupt)
=> Probably the obvious changes will be made: Shooter Sean Deeley to NOTBPW, SUKI to PGHW, ...

A big name, old school guy passes away (Ed DeColt, I'm looking at you!).
=> Perhaps the Stones see a change in the ownership of their company. :)

A new promotion opens in Europe or the US.
=> Yes! A TNA-like one plz. :)

5SSW or AAA gets some competition with a new women's wrestling company.
=> Can't really see that happening, BUT we might see a new women's division somewhere. [SWF someone? :D ]

DAVE finally falls to financial issues, but a newer, more fast paced company rises from it's ashes.
=> Meh I never liked DAVE anyhow. :rolleyes: WEXXV will hopefully fall, and perhaps GCG? We shall never know... Well, that is till June ;)

[Sensai of Mattitude]

I can see TCW finally having overtaken SWF to the top. We need some new feds, so I can also see TCW or NOTBPW with a development fed. MAW is where it's really at, though. I need to know who won the 2007 Invitational already (and 2008 for that matter, if the database is set mid-'08). I could see MAW having a well established tag team division, with the Blondes and Rock City Stars still around (RCS still jobbing, of course) and a host of other teams. I think either Natural Storm will be working the tag team division in TCW or a well rebuilt DAVE, or one of them will be working the main event of MAW while the other works the undercard of one of the aforementioned companies.

In the main event? Steven Parker and Mean Jean both have to still be there, though they won't be aligned anymore. They just can't be, it's ridiculous for two combustible elements to be working together for so long. One will be face. Des Davids will have moved on, I think (possibly to DAVE), while, to many people's surprise, Mainstream Hernandez has stuck around through the company's uprising and has had at least one run with the title.

Sorry, I'm getting carried away. :p

[Blackman]

Another nice thing would be Dark Angel (or someone else for that matter) turning Freelance.

And some workers looking abroad for work. :D

[mad5226]

Yeah I think MAW is going to make it big. Maybe be regional with their big 3 (Hernandez, Parker, and Jean) still around. I actually expect USPw tp drop either completly off or down to small and losing money fast. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam used some of Monkeypox's ideas and revived DAVE with Eddie Peak and "The Wrath of God" leading the way.

[rayps23]

Dan stone dies the brothers and Victoria have a huge fight over the promotion and Victoria and Sean leave to start a new company.

[Bolton]

I've got some comical ideas for 2008 C'verse

- Sean shocks the Canadians by announcing he wants to return to the SWF. However he's the Canadian champ, so dear ol' father-in-law Dan Stone screws Sean McFly in what was called "The Toronto Screwjob" the person who won it? The bosse's favorite son, Dan Stone Jr.

- Tommy Cornell finally scumbs to desire and becomes a master of politics, guarrenting him that he is STILL the TCW World champ in 2008. Several of the talent leave.

- Enygma shocks Richard Eisen by going to USPW so he can dominate the whole roster like he did in the 2004 SWF.

- Runaway Train announces his retirement and drops the SWF World title to Steve Frehley, who has another mega run until losing it to.....Eric Eisen. (Nothing like a good political Jesus push isn't there? :rolleyes: )

- Peter Valentine becomes USPW World champ because he can suck Sam Strong's big juicy wrinkly grapefruits. :p

- Rip Chord kicks the bucket and Jay Chord inherites MAW, despite the fact everyone thinks that Jay doesn't know s**t about business, but Jay, to everyone's surprise, get's the promotion into Regional thanks to using politics to take the Mid-Atlantic Championship off Steven Parker.

- Tom "Angry" Gilmore gets pissed that he isn't going where his talent's should lead him and leaves for Canada, but when good old family politics :rolleyes: prevent him from reaching his destiny, he goes to Japan and becomes one of the most sought after gaijins.

- Marc DuBois gets really over after taking a Prima Donna gimmick (Think early 90's Shawn Michaels) he becomes North American champion after beating THE FOOOOOOOOOOOOORCE!!!!!! (What? I like the guy)

- A bit late, but it turns out that Eric's run as SWF World Champion was really well-received, thanks to a huge title feud with domaniant heel Remo and that he had improved his performances and entertainment skills.

[Dragonmack]

- Peter Valentine becomes USPW World champ because he can suck Sam Strong's big juicy wrinkly grapefruits

Already have had that happen in my dynasty game as well. Good old Petey had a year long run as the USPW World Champion, during a time when USPW was the only american promotion with a TV show. :D

[Apupunchau@optonline]

The first thing I looked at was who debuted up untill June 2008. Now think all of those people are going to be started in the new game. Where are they going to be and how is there presence going to change the landscape of the Cornellverse.

[Derek B]

Just so you know, the database isn't decided yet so I've got no info on what will actually happen. Which is why I'm throwing some ideas out there :)

- Having thought about it more... I want to see DAVE die completely. This would then leave a bunch of workers to go many different ways, allowing for the expansion of CZCW with guys like Acid, Elemental III and Bulldozer Brandon Smith leading the way.

- Elemental III (or American Elemental as he's currently known) becomes a big name in Japan as he is picked as the successor for the gimmick. His fame also allows him to play a major role in CZCW's expansion to fill the void left behind by DAVE.

- Chris Caulfield starts his own hardcore promotion since Phil Vibert no longer has the finances to run his own. Vibert probably books it but the promotion is small and just a shell of DAVE's former glory.

- Puerto Rico gets it's own promotion headed up by Shawn Gonzalez. PRP, The Latino Kings and Kashmir Singh obviously head there.

- USPW continue as the #3 promotion in the US. Nicky Champion is being groomed to be a big star for them and (on screen) is dating Alicia Strong, the star of the new women's division. USPW are likely to lose a few big names to retirement so a fresh batch of young workers seems likely... probably including Gargantuan. :)

- INSPIRE suffer... horribly. I just don't like them.

- 21CW continue to grow and Philip Cooper's hats become the biggest selling merchandise in the world. Cooper also happens to start developing in the ring and seems set to become a star. He might even be interested in taking jobs from other countries...

- TCW aka Tommy Cornell Wrestling remain as #2 to the SWF. I don't really know what I want them to do, but I can see them bringing in someone like a Rolling Johnny Stones to make things more exciting in the midcard.

- NOTBPW... they continue to put on great wrestling shows but be unable to appeal to the US market. So instead, they try to break out to the UK and get ROF as their development promotion. Wigan Style 4 Life!

[Clarity]

Just so you know, the database isn't decided yet so I've got no info on what will actually happen. Which is why I'm throwing some ideas out there :)

- Having thought about it more... I want to see DAVE die completely. This would then leave a bunch of workers to go many different ways, allowing for the expansion of CZCW with guys like Acid, Elemental III and Bulldozer Brandon Smith leading the way.

- Elemental III (or American Elemental as he's currently known) becomes a big name in Japan as he is picked as the successor for the gimmick. His fame also allows him to play a major role in CZCW's expansion to fill the void left behind by DAVE.

- Chris Caulfield starts his own hardcore promotion since Phil Vibert no longer has the finances to run his own. Vibert probably books it but the promotion is small and just a shell of DAVE's former glory.

- Puerto Rico gets it's own promotion headed up by Shawn Gonzalez. PRP, The Latino Kings and Kashmir Singh obviously head there.

- USPW continue as the #3 promotion in the US. Nicky Champion is being groomed to be a big star for them and (on screen) is dating Alicia Strong, the star of the new women's division. USPW are likely to lose a few big names to retirement so a fresh batch of young workers seems likely... probably including Gargantuan. :)

- INSPIRE suffer... horribly. I just don't like them.

- 21CW continue to grow and Philip Cooper's hats become the biggest selling merchandise in the world. Cooper also happens to start developing in the ring and seems set to become a star. He might even be interested in taking jobs from other countries...

- TCW aka Tommy Cornell Wrestling remain as #2 to the SWF. I don't really know what I want them to do, but I can see them bringing in someone like a Rolling Johnny Stones to make things more exciting in the midcard.

- NOTBPW... they continue to put on great wrestling shows but be unable to appeal to the US market. So instead, they try to break out to the UK and get ROF as their development promotion. Wigan Style 4 Life!Thats something i can see. Instead of going under, the turn developmental

[shamelessposer]

A lot of these ideas were going to be in my own Cornellverse 2008 mod, and if any of them find their way into the official data I'd be very, very pleased.

-American Elemental becomes Elemental III. By the end of 2008 American Elemental II, a woman, appears on the independent scene.

-Hell's Bouncer makes a proper in-ring debut, and turns out to be a surprisingly decent wrestler (at the very least he's better than his 2007 stats would suggest). He's a reliable midcard worker with a great look, and probably ends up being DAVE's equivalent to WWF's (mid-2001)Test.

-White Samurai continued making appearances in MAW after his good showing in the 2007 Rip Chord Invitational. He has yet to win a title but has definitely won over a lot of fans, in particular with his stunning best-of-seven series against Mainstream Hernandez.

-NOTBPW dropped their women's division, and Victoria left the company in protest to found the Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation. Sean McFly no longer had marital ties to the promotion, and became one of the biggest wrestling stories of the year when he left NOTBPW to sign with PGHW.

-Texas Pete quickly made enemies in TCW and was gone by the end of the summer. He then made a surprise appearance in USPW, where he was immediately inserted into the main event scene.

-USPW has jumped up to a comfortable Cult position, and signed many of their top workers to written contracts. This came about when a new national television network was looking for wrestling programming and got scared off by promotional material from DAVE, so they fled in the opposite direction and ended up with USPW instead.

-DAVE is hurting. Most of their bigger stars have been signed away, to the point that the Latino Kings are positioned as solid midcarders.

-Alex Braun left DAVE after one too many of his paychecks bounced, and ended up taking a position as head booker of a European wrestling promotion. This promotion has risen to prominence (maybe a Regional position?) through Braun's solid booking and gradual shift to a more hardcore style.

-Big Smack Scott? SWF champion.

-Fumihiro Ota and Silver Shark join SWF as part of the Shooting Star division. Deano Machino and Brett Biggz join TCW to bolster the All Action division.

-At a November TCW show, Hooded Kudo shocked the world by wrestling in an American promotion for the first time in nearly a decade. There's still no word on how much Cornell spent to bring him into the fold, but rumor has it that an accountant somewhere in TCW management is still crying.

[Midnightnick]

A lot of these ideas were going to be in my own Cornellverse 2008 mod, and if any of them find their way into the official data I'd be very, very pleased.

-American Elemental becomes Elemental III. By the end of 2008 American Elemental II, a woman, appears on the independent scene.

-Hell's Bouncer makes a proper in-ring debut, and turns out to be a surprisingly decent wrestler (at the very least he's better than his 2007 stats would suggest). He's a reliable midcard worker with a great look, and probably ends up being DAVE's equivalent to WWF's (mid-2001)Test.

-White Samurai continued making appearances in MAW after his good showing in the 2007 Rip Chord Invitational. He has yet to win a title but has definitely won over a lot of fans, in particular with his stunning best-of-seven series against Mainstream Hernandez.

-NOTBPW dropped their women's division, and Victoria left the company in protest to found the Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation. Sean McFly no longer had marital ties to the promotion, and became one of the biggest wrestling stories of the year when he left NOTBPW to sign with PGHW.

-Texas Pete quickly made enemies in TCW and was gone by the end of the summer. He then made a surprise appearance in USPW, where he was immediately inserted into the main event scene.

-USPW has jumped up to a comfortable Cult position, and signed many of their top workers to written contracts. This came about when a new national television network was looking for wrestling programming and got scared off by promotional material from DAVE, so they fled in the opposite direction and ended up with USPW instead.

-DAVE is hurting. Most of their bigger stars have been signed away, to the point that the Latino Kings are positioned as solid midcarders.

-Alex Braun left DAVE after one too many of his paychecks bounced, and ended up taking a position as head booker of a European wrestling promotion. This promotion has risen to prominence (maybe a Regional position?) through Braun's solid booking and gradual shift to a more hardcore style.

-Big Smack Scott? SWF champion.

-Fumihiro Ota and Silver Shark join SWF as part of the All Action division. Deano Machino and Brett Biggz join TCW to bolster the All Action division.

-At a November TCW show, Hooded Kudo shocked the world by wrestling in an American promotion for the first time in nearly a decade. There's still no word on how much Cornell spent to bring him into the fold, but rumor has it that an accountant somewhere in TCW management is still crying.

Poser. I absolutely love the White Samurai and Hell's Bouncers ideas. Same with Texas Pete. You have genius ideas for 3 of my favorite wrestlers in the Cornellverse.

[Dynamite Kid]

My Predictions:

SWF -

* We've seen the end of the Underwater Union.

* Sam Keith has retired

* Skull DeBones is the reigning World Champion

* Jack Bruce, Rich Money, Angry Gilmore are the top contenders in the SWF North American title scene.

* Joe Sexy has split with Gilmore, Remo has split with Rich Money and now Remo and Sexy are either teaming of feuding

* Brett Biggz is a road agent, having stepped aside for his brother to shine.

* Death Row are a dominant tag team

* Goodbye to the artist formally known as Flex

* Kurt Laramee has reunited with his girlfriend and leads some kind of gangster stable


TCW

* Has either sank with their depleted roster or swam with some new big fishes

* Has established some kind of working agreement with an overseas organization loaded with talent (PHGW, BHOTWG)

* Rocky Golden is about to become the world champion

* RDJ remains at the top of the organization and as an attempt to keep his friend employed, the guy who looks like a secret service agent (whose name escapes me right now) is his on screen bodyguard

* Harry Wilson is gone

* The Nation of Filth are gone

DAVE

* Continue to struggle.

* Have signed The Nation of Filth who are now their top tag team

* Eric Tyler has retired

* Chris Caufield can barely continue his career

* Nemesis attempted a return but failed miserably

* Vin Tanner has retired

* JD Morgan returns to the UK

* Johnny Martin remains the organizations most successful veteran

* Guide and Scout remain but are no longer protected by their written deals

* Alex Braun has retired

* Brauns retirement coincided with Tank Bradleys firing for some kind of outrageous backstage issue

* The Latino Kings had a good stint for the year, earning lots of heat, unfortunately such heat was also found upon them backstage and they were escorted abruptly out the door

USPW

* Continuing to thrive especially with the leadership of Sam Strong and Bruce The Giant

* Have worked out an agreement of some kind with both a television network and MAW

* The Lords of War and The Demons of Rage had a dream match which brought the organization loads of publicity and money

* Nicky Champion continues his grooming under Sam Strong

* The Hillbillys are not significant contenders but rather time fillers

* Have added a good deal of young, (albeit gimmicky) talent

CZCW

* Have not changed much since last year, possibly lost Fox Mask to a bigger company and added more faces

NYCW

* Barely hanging on.

* Black Hat Bailey has helped the promotion a great deal but at a terrible economic loss

* Tank Bradley has been signed and is their top star due to his DAVE name recognition

MAW

* Working with USPW

* Continuing to flurish with their youngsters and Rip Chords supervision

NOTBPW

* Dominating Canada but little much has changed



Thats just some stuff off the top of my head for now

[Ping von Erich]

- Rip Chord has passed on, MAW is bought by TCW to serve as their feeder fed. Robert Oxford is given the reigns. A lot of the top talent is either brought up to TCW or walks out. (Des to USPW, Mainstream to CZCW, Parker to PWMAX, etc.)

- DAVE is out of business. Phil either leaves the business or joins SWF or TCW as a manager.

- Pro Wrestling MAX, headed up by Shawn Gonzalez, fills with void left by DAVE with a technically sound roster of young hungry grapplers like Frankie Perez, Steven Parker, Art Reed, Sean Deeley, Brandon Smith etc.

- Fox Mask buys CZCW out right and slowly turns it into the awesome faux lucha fed it was always meant to be. (The product settings altered so people like Corp. Doom or Primus Allen don't sign with them.. yeesh.)

- Huge shake ups with the Canadian scene, George DeColt finally succumbs to a bad heart and passes on CGC closing its doors soon after, his sons scattering to the four corners of the earth. Ricky moves onto 4C, Alex debuts with SWF, and Jack and Steve tour Japan as a tag team with Burning Hammer.

- WEXXV hit a golden age with several amazing young hardcore talents debuting (the Japanese scene is grossly over saturated with high flyers and technicians and no real aggressive nasty hardcore garbage wrestlers, this needs to be changed)

- USPW finds a bulk of its roster retiring, but find a whole host of replacements in the recently released Underwater Union.. Chris switching back to Lobster Man, Pratt and Jasckson deciding their real names suited them better, working as a no nonsense tag team.

- USPW also find aide in the form of recently dropped TCW talents Texas Pete, Liberty and the hot headed BLZ Bubb, making USPW an overnight contender for the number two spot.


I absolutly love the idea of USPW growing larger and creating a women's division based around Strong's daughter, awesome idea!

[juggaloninjalee]

I want to see TCW begin to dominate the US much like WCW dominated WWE in the 90s. They could bring in established tag teams if promotions like DaVE, or CGC died. TCW also has a big heel stable consisting of Tommy Cornell, Charlie Thatcher, and the Tag Team Specialists. The Machines become a face tag team late in 2007 when Tommy Cornell has the Tag Team Specialists attack them and promises them a tag team title shot in which they win but they lose the titles not long after in a match where Cornell and Charlie are banned from ringside.

USPW should NOT have a womens division. SWF should!

I feel like most people about McFly not being tied to NOTBPW. They have too many talented faces. He can stay married to Victoria but a big fight with Dan Stone Sr. could lead to him being let go and Victoria backing her man. They could go to SWF where she leads the womens division with Alicia Strong. McFly could become a huge star battling for the North American Title for awhile.

USPW should pick up old stars like Nemesis.

DaVE shouldn't die but should lose a lot of its more over guys.

MAW growing could be good.

TCW should get a small new development fed. Maybe bring up a new rookie tag team or two.

Mexico should have a lot of crossover stars who want work in the US for money and fame.

[Basmat01]

Maybe a Long Term Injury happens to a Really big name in the C-verse (Tommy Cornell?)

Ed Stones demains a main event title run which Dan Stone refuses because he believes he is not ready for the main event resulting in Ed Stone leaving NOTBPW

Jeremy Stone becomes a part-time Wrestler and becomes either Head Booker or Owner because either Victoria leaves, Dan Stone dies or Dan Stone steps aside for Jeremy to take over...

[juggaloninjalee]

No dont let Cornell get hurt!

I thought of another idea... how about having the Vessey Bros. return to TCW to revive the tag team division? I think that would be huge!

[WrestleManiac]

I'd like to see the UK scene start to grow... even if it is just a minor sprouting. Maybe ROF have an upturn in fortune after reluctantly changing their style to compete with the competition... or suddenly, magically, people start to show an interest in them.

Maybe see 21CW stumble in the hands of that celebraty, self-loving, ego maniac Jeff Nova.

[Dragonmack]

My Guess on where the new workers from 2007 will be at the beginning of 2008


Cameron Vessey- Uncle Bryan and father Larry get him into PGHW where they have a Vessey stable.
Carlos Gonzalez- Joins Dave and replaces Hector Galindo in the Latino Kings
Bulldozer Brandon Smith - signs with USPW but then gets picked up by WLW
Jamie Quine- part of a new USPW Women's division
Alicia Strong- Catalyst of USPW creating a Women's division headed by her and Wanda Fish, who is stolen from AAA.
Davis Wayne Newton- signed to CGC to replace the losses of Shooter Sean and Whippy the Clown, then gets stolen right before 2008 by NOTBPW.
Ox Krevizuk- signed by USPW and teamed with Aaron Jackson aka Jumbo Shrimp for a new monster heel tag team as Towers of Power are broken up by now.
Gargantuan- picked up by SWF and sent to RIPW to mold into a new monster heel to replace the aging Runaway Train.
King Kong Kennedy-joins Ox Krevizuk and Jumbo Shrimp in USPW to make a new heel stable under Sheik Mustafa
Casey Valentine- goes to MAW to continue training under Rip Chord and replaces Mainstream Hernandez who has gone to CZCW as the main opponent for Steven Parker.
Various Luchadors-spread throughout the three feds and emerging MHW.
Japanese- WEXXV gets absorbed into WLW and their Streetfighting division.
Don't know enough about the workers that premiere in Japan in 2007 to guess
Fearless Blue and Daredevil Aero get a tryout in CZCW.

[xfactor9600]

more workers in Europe and the UK. THe talent pool is kind of thin. Perhaps another Euro fed.

[theunholyicon]

Can't even begin to imagine the changes. Just gonna wait and see.

Its going to be one loooong wait :(

[TheAsianKing]

Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation
-became a huge threat to both 5SSW and AAA
-Black widow, Catherine Quine, Cherry Bomb, and Grace Harper leaves AAA to join CWWF
-June Butler leaves 5SSW and brings Crusher Ichihara and the team Seek & Destroy
-Melody Cuthill and Tamara Mcfly leaves NOTBPW to join CWWF
-at war with both 5SSW and AAA
-June Butler is the owner with CAtherine Quine as Head Booker

[PassagetoHonour]

I've got some comical ideas for 2008 C'verse

- Sean shocks the Canadians by announcing he wants to return to the SWF. However he's the Canadian champ, so dear ol' father-in-law Dan Stone screws Sean McFly in what was called "The Toronto Screwjob" the person who won it? The bosse's favorite son, Dan Stone Jr.

- Tommy Cornell finally scumbs to desire and becomes a master of politics, guarrenting him that he is STILL the TCW World champ in 2008. Several of the talent leave.

- Enygma shocks Richard Eisen by going to USPW so he can dominate the whole roster like he did in the 2004 SWF.

- Runaway Train announces his retirement and drops the SWF World title to Steve Frehley, who has another mega run until losing it to.....Eric Eisen. (Nothing like a good political Jesus push isn't there? :rolleyes: )

- Peter Valentine becomes USPW World champ because he can suck Sam Strong's big juicy wrinkly grapefruits. :p

- Rip Chord kicks the bucket and Jay Chord inherites MAW, despite the fact everyone thinks that Jay doesn't know s**t about business, but Jay, to everyone's surprise, get's the promotion into Regional thanks to using politics to take the Mid-Atlantic Championship off Steven Parker.

- Tom "Angry" Gilmore gets pissed that he isn't going where his talent's should lead him and leaves for Canada, but when good old family politics :rolleyes: prevent him from reaching his destiny, he goes to Japan and becomes one of the most sought after gaijins.

- Marc DuBois gets really over after taking a Prima Donna gimmick (Think early 90's Shawn Michaels) he becomes North American champion after beating THE FOOOOOOOOOOOOORCE!!!!!! (What? I like the guy)

I like these ideas. What is funny, is that I had the same sort of thing happen with Eric Eisen becoming SWF world champ. Remo finally got a title reign, had it for a year, then dropped it Eric, who held it for seven months!

[ZMAN]

I'd merge USPW with MAW. Have big names from the big companies join them. Sam Strong comes out of retirement to make Mean Machine a big heel. Throw in a womens division thats based around Strong's daughter. They need something to fill a TV show, damn.

TCW signs New Wave and Art Reed.

DAVE gets Painful Procedure's Ronnie/Randal/Billy. Kurt Laramee could make a return.

SWF seems ok, maybe a few cuts and signings. The AI just sucks balls at utilizing the talent.

whatever happens, I just hope the new game improves how these promotions run themselves, cause it always seems like they go straight in to the ground.

[Jonfun]

I would like to see four or five new feds, lots of new workers.

I would like DAVE not to go bust, but maybe change their name.

[Undertaker666]

I for one do not want DAVE to go bust. DAVE was the first promotion I ever used and it still remains my favourite to this very day.

DAVE forever!!!

[Self]

It would suck for any promotion to go under. After all, every promotion is somebodies favourite, right? I know I'd hate it if NOTBPW were no longer there for me to play as.

Industry logic is one thing, but this is a game.

[Capelli King]

Dave will be around but struggling, USPW has to be doing ok, just got a push.

Seam McFLy moves to TCW or SWF.

I hope Europe gets a revival with more than just one decent promotion there.

I think Australia will open again and will be a new but weak market.

[PoisonedSuperman]

I hope that the region system is the one used in WMMA which would mean we could get a promotion in Brazil and Australia and all over the place!!

[Tigerkinney]

I know it's a 'turnaround their fortunes' favourite for many, but I don't think NYCW, with their ageing roster and 1970's ideals can carry on like they are for much longer.

I could see either see them folding, or my preferred option would be that they still exist but someone buys them out, after they almost go out of business. Of course in doing so, they would gradually change the product, introducing more faster paced modern elements and replace the washed up has-beens on their final pay day with hungrier up and comers.

One idea that has been running through my head regarding NYCW is that Tommy Cornell rescues them from oblivion and uses them as a 'Development' fed for TCW.

Now with an interest in the Puro scene in the Cornellverse, here is what I would like to see happen amongst that scene.

BHOTWG: Have steadied the ship, after the INSPIRE walk-out. The heavyweight division is still a bit iffy but a Nakasawa-Kudo feud over the World Title has kept it respectable, but they still over-push the likes of Taira and Masuno. The Rebellion are on top of the tag division, but fans are clamouring for them to have singles runs.

The Super Juniors are thriving though, producing quality matches week in, week out and are seen as the jewel in the promotions crown.

PGHW: Are still about level with BHOTWG , but can't quite forge ahead. They're still as the top company in terms of overall wrestling product, but fans are starting to grow a little bit of tired of the same set of names dominating the main event.

GCG: On the back of a great feud between Hyobanshi-Gakusha , and some savvy Gaijin signings, and some cheap but suprisingly decent pick-ups from the independents/the demise of WEXVV...they actually manage to steady their slide and they look to be in their most financially solid position for years.

WLW: Despite the fact that Golden Canvas, have halted their slide....WLW overtake them as the undisputed No.3 promotion as more fans flock to their 'alternative' Lucharesu product. They scrap the Streetfighting and Tap Out titles, unifying them with the Showstealer Title, this sees them produce more focused booking on their remaining champions.

In a tribute to their Lucha-Libre influence, they also introduce a Tournament Title for Six Man Tag Matches.

INSPIRE: They have an inital spike in popularity, due to their ex BHOTWG star names, and the fans are intrigued by the MMA influenced product, but the novelty begins to wear off, and the fans start to flock back to the likes of BHOTWG and PGHW, or they leave INSPIRE behind and go to proper MMA events instead. In a bid to add some more variety, to a product that is quickly beginning to grow stale, they introduce a 'Lightweight' Title at the end of 2007.

Hinote Dojo and SAISHO: Still the developmental feds for BHOTWG and Saisho. However they change their schedule to a touring one, touring in the months that their parent companies are not touring.

WEXVV: Have finally gone out of business, signalling the 'death' of Garbage Wrestling in Japan.

5SSW: Still the undisputed No.1 Joshi promotion.....

But I think some new competion will open up at the end of 2007, that is set up by a big-name that has a falling out with 5SSW managment, I'm thinking someone the stature of Kit Hatoyama.

[Dragonmack]

My take on NYCW through the end of 2007

Steve Flash is finally Empire Champion after Grandmaster Phunk leaves for either DAVE or SWF, having proved himself as a wrestler.

With Bailey as the Head Booker, it is still an old boys network , and some of the aging castoffs from the big two will find a home in NYCW, particularly the Nation of Filth, Stink and Grunt, who will replace Wiley Coyote as the tag team champions.

Sammy the Shark will have changed gimmicks and be a solid midcarder, perhaps even Tri-State Champion.

There will be two major acquisitions, one old and one new as Robert Oxford joins NYCW to rebuild his sagging career and is the main challenger for Steve Flash for the Empire Championship and they will pick up another young big man a la The Big Problem.
In this case either Primus Allen or Gargantuan and he will become the new 'monster heel'.

Notable departures- Land Mass retired, American Machine to USPW or RIPW
Whistler could either be retired, or have gone to join a resurrected SCCW.

[Beeker]

What is this talk of the fantasy Cornellverse? Everyone knows that the REAL power Timmy Cromwell who that hack Tommy Cornell stole everything from. Moves. Mannerisms. Promo style!

Finally Timmy Cromwell finds a fed HaLF (the one that I'm still working at. Hopefully it'll debut in January.) Currently I've added 28 Mini wrestlers and have a bunch more to add. So far, all 30 are 'modelled' in whole or in part on current CVerse wrestlers. Plus a few 'modelled on none' minis I need to create.

HaLF will be based in Northern Mexico and straddling the Texas/Mexico border and while far from super popular it will be a solid Small to Regional promotion.

HaLF - It's not about weight limits, it's about height limits!

***

Here now... the biography of Timmy Cromwell:

"Smooth Injustice" Timmy Cromwell is considered by many within the industry to be the finest worker of his generation. Or would be, if not for being just under 4'6 and having all his in-ring moves and mannerisms cribbed by Tommy Cornell. A natural heel with an ability to make virtually any opponent look great. He schemes and dreams of a world where he won't be over looked due to his small stature.

[brat99]

What is this talk of the fantasy Cornellverse? Everyone knows that the REAL power Timmy Cromwell who that hack Tommy Cornell stole everything from. Moves. Mannerisms. Promo style!

Finally Timmy Cromwell finds a fed HaLF (the one that I'm still working at. Hopefully it'll debut in January.) Currently I've added 28 Mini wrestlers and have a bunch more to add. So far, all 30 are 'modelled' in whole or in part on current CVerse wrestlers. Plus a few 'modelled on none' minis I need to create.

HaLF will be based in Northern Mexico and straddling the Texas/Mexico border and while far from super popular it will be a solid Small to Regional promotion.

HaLF - It's not about weight limits, it's about height limits!

***

Here now... the biography of Timmy Cromwell:

"Smooth Injustice" Timmy Cromwell is considered by many within the industry to be the finest worker of his generation. Or would be, if not for being just under 4'6 and having all his in-ring moves and mannerisms cribbed by Tommy Cornell. A natural heel with an ability to make virtually any opponent look great. He schemes and dreams of a world where he won't be over looked due to his small stature.


LOL!:D I love the idea of a midget fed. Are your mini's gonna have pics as well?

[Beeker]

LOL!:D I love the idea of a midget fed. Are your mini's gonna have pics as well?

I can't render. Have no idea how.
And right now I'm not about to ask sebsplex to whip up a bonus 30 minis in addition to his work on the GDSVerse renders.

Right now the only renders will be of the modelled-upon wrestlers. Ideally I'd take the image of Tommy Cornell and pull him halfway down the CVerse backdrop. So it's obviously Tommy but also clearly a mini-Tommy. Aka Timmy!
I've got no plans currently to add the renders but if some of the devoted and devout renderers of the boards took up the challenge I'd be more than happy for any help at all.

[Harts4Life]

I like the idea of Ricky DeColt going to 4C, but regardless of what happens, can 4C finally go somewhere? They've been around this long, everyone else has had some sort of change, but 4C seems stagnant.

I would suggest that CGC falters in it's struggle against NOTBPW and falls to just within Cult status, forcing them to drop many of their workers, most of whom, bitter at how everything goes down, joins 4C and builds them to solidly Regional, and chasing CGC down.

[theunholyicon]

Instead of moving McFly back to SWF or to TCW, why not put him in 4C or CGC? Interesting? I think so.

[PoisonedSuperman]

I think now that there is an MMA game that Raul Hughes will quit INSPIRE to go back to MMA! How will he do? who knows!

[Gozer]

All this "Kill DaVE" talk has me down.

I think that DaVE should be doing fine! They've got Acid, Joey Minnesota, Eddie Peak and Big Cat Brandon locked down in long term deals. If anything, I think Caulfield, Tyler and Braun should be retired (with at least one being forced out due to injury), the Latino Kings should've matured somewhat, and the main eventers should be all the guys I just listed, with THE WRATH OF GOD (and dude, he should really be the Wrath of God in the next edition, because Pox's gimmick is just too good not to use) holding the Unified Title with guys like Acid, Minnesota and Eddie Peak chasing his heels!

How is that not good enough to stay in business, you dam cynics?

[Michael Wayne]

Seam McFLy moves to TCW or SWF.


why would McFly leave? He's a family member to the Stones. And realistically, he'd have a "Lifetime" contract.

[Gnrfan]

Dave must stay open but is in the middle of a re-building process. It has lost New Wave to TCW and Eddie Peak to SWF but a new crop of talented youngsters should appear in Dave as well as a huge star who has come in and dominated the title picture maybe from Japan.

I think SWF should still be No1 maybe with another TV show, but TCW has made up some ground. Make it like WWF vs WCW in that TCW is on the rise and soon could be taking over.

as far as McFly goes . . i'd like him to leave NOTBPW. I think he should just leave on good terms with the knowledge that he has more to offer the big promotions. No need for a huge break up or fight just that he has potential to sit atop the wrestling world . . why wouldn't he?

Jay Chord should go to his dads fed. and become prominant.

Runaway Train should retire only to return to start some sort of Evolution type stable in SWF. Fast Tracking some quality young talent.

Rich Money should be SWF Champion

I'd like to see a TCW Heel stable with Tommy Cornell, Bryant & Oxford and Wolf Hawkins . . with Hawkins eventually turning face and going up against his former stable mates.

Workers like Rocky Golden, Rick Law, Remo and Angry Gilmore should have gone to the next level with some big wins or moved companies.

Champagne Lover should have moved to a US promotion where he is making big waves.

There should be a couple of big stars emerge in the UK who all the top companies are after.

[Michael Wayne]

McFly needs to stay in NOTBPW. He doesn't have the mic skills and such to be a viable asset to the big promotions. He's a "wrestler" fit for a "wrestling" promotion. He's also too old for the other promotions. Places like TCW and SWF should be bringing in young talent, not older talent. And besides, if you look at it from a Cornellverse point of view, it's something that McFly wants. If he didn't, he'd be with the promotions in question.

[Shmoe]

Unlike what a lot of people are saying, I say that DAVE should have a big name defect to them (as a few did to ECW back in the day) from TCW or the SWF and should ride that momentum to the brink of national.

TCW fail and convert back into HGC?

[PoisonedSuperman]

I think if Dave stays around it should be in a small time battle with someone like MAW to be the number 4 promotion in the USA after SWF, TCW and then USPW.

I think besides Guide and Scout that USPW is going to get a bunch of older guys from Japan through their World champion and foreign embassador Bruce The Giant. This will also give them a few working agreements with promotions from the island.

Older guys from TCW and SWF should also come to USPW looking for a place to end their careers. I can see Jumbo Jackson coming in and becoming a huge face battling against the number one/2 heel in USPW Giant Redwood or T-Rex.

I also think that to add to their awesome tag team division of The Demons the Warlords, Guide and Scout that either both of the one of Vessey brothers should come join if only one they should team with Cameron.

I can see USPW having good solid under card matches with the womans division and then using their star power at the top of the card to give the fans what they really wanna see.

Bulldozer Brandon I wish would be in USPW but he's too good. I can see him in development for one of the big promotions weather in Japan or the USA it doesn't mattar.

Pablo should lose his book in Mexico and return the USA! I would love to use him in the USA, maybe he can be that big name that defects to DAVE to try to help it rise back from their battle with MAW.

Either Art Reed should go to SWF and team with Sam Keith or Sam Keith should go to Dave and team with Art Reed! Could you imagine a double proton lock?

Is there any way at all to simulate the National draft that goes on in Mexico? That would be super cool.

I think the character Evil Spirit should catch on somewhere, I forgot the kids real name but I think with this character he really has something special. I've used him in 07 but I think in 08 he could be on the rise some where.

Darryl Devine and mainstream Hernandez should be lowercard fighters in TCW who are making a name for themselves by battling each other.

The kid who sold HGC, I can't think of his name right now, is drawn back in to the business and buys a small promotion and gives it a huge financial backing or buys a new promotion, also buying his own television stating giving it a lifetime deal (hopefully a new type of contract you can have).

SWF uses The Guru to get some of their lesser talent over, he's golden!

Playboy Jake Sawyer is the number one manager in the business and has a stable of playboys and playmates, in whatever promotion he is in.

Angry Gilmore upset that he is still in the tag team division leaves and goes to Canada, or even to Mexico. IF he goes to Mexico he should wrestle as Jose Sexay.

[Clarity]

I think if Dave stays around it should be in a small time battle with someone like MAW to be the number 4 promotion in the USA after SWF, TCW and then USPW.

I think besides Guide and Scout that USPW is going to get a bunch of older guys from Japan through their World champion and foreign embassador Bruce The Giant. This will also give them a few working agreements with promotions from the island.

Older guys from TCW and SWF should also come to USPW looking for a place to end their careers. I can see Jumbo Jackson coming in and becoming a huge face battling against the number one/2 heel in USPW Giant Redwood or T-Rex.

I also think that to add to their awesome tag team division of The Demons the Warlords, Guide and Scout that either both of the one of Vessey brothers should come join if only one they should team with Cameron.

I can see USPW having good solid under card matches with the womans division and then using their star power at the top of the card to give the fans what they really wanna see.

Bulldozer Brandon I wish would be in USPW but he's too good. I can see him in development for one of the big promotions weather in Japan or the USA it doesn't mattar.

Pablo should lose his book in Mexico and return the USA! I would love to use him in the USA, maybe he can be that big name that defects to DAVE to try to help it rise back from their battle with MAW.

Either Art Reed should go to SWF and team with Sam Keith or Sam Keith should go to Dave and team with Art Reed! Could you imagine a double proton lock?

Is there any way at all to simulate the National draft that goes on in Mexico? That would be super cool.

I think the character Evil Spirit should catch on somewhere, I forgot the kids real name but I think with this character he really has something special. I've used him in 07 but I think in 08 he could be on the rise some where.

Darryl Devine and mainstream Hernandez should be lowercard fighters in TCW who are making a name for themselves by battling each other.

The kid who sold HGC, I can't think of his name right now, is drawn back in to the business and buys a small promotion and gives it a huge financial backing or buys a new promotion, also buying his own television stating giving it a lifetime deal (hopefully a new type of contract you can have).

SWF uses The Guru to get some of their lesser talent over, he's golden!

Playboy Jake Sawyer is the number one manager in the business and has a stable of playboys and playmates, in whatever promotion he is in.

Angry Gilmore upset that he is still in the tag team division leaves and goes to Canada, or even to Mexico. IF he goes to Mexico he should wrestle as Jose Sexay.

He turns up in WMMA.. J.K Stallings you mean.. Debuts 2004 just after he sells HGC

[1PWfan]

Personally, I wnat to see the UK scene turn around, and get good. Speaking as a man who always wanted to play a UK promotion that was actually going someplace positive, it bugged me that the scene in Cornellverse is basically dire.

[Blackman]

I think if Dave stays around it should be in a small time battle with someone like MAW to be the number 4 promotion in the USA after SWF, TCW and then USPW.

Good luck to MAW then. They're pretty far behind right now. :D

As for the UK, playing as ROF is fun and kind of challenging as well. It's one of the harder plays in TEW imo since they have so little ca$h. Funny thing is I turned out to rule Europe alone in 2009 (v1.0 or v1.1 of the game), as all other promotions pretty much died. Now thàt's a talent pool for ya. Yay for ROF! :)

[UWFSteele]

How about as Enygma's contract finishes, fed up with the way he has been overlooked behind other names on the roster, decides not to renew his SWF contract and instead shocks the world by appearing on DaVE with a shoot-promo revealing the true politics that seem to be going on in SWF.

What the promo revealed was that people that have poured all their effort into SWF are getting overlooked for guys who are considered flavour-of-the-months, people who are coming in straight from RIPW such as Nevada Nuclear are getting pushed way ahead of the hard-workers of the roster purely because of their looks.

What this reveals is that all is not well and people lower down the card with long experience within SWF or with talent but lack of personality as well as Angry Gilmore would be annoyed and have low morale.

The team of Sexual Aggression (Joe and Gilmore) would end up having hatred for each other as Joe Sexy decides to embrace the idea of the singles push leaving behind Gilmore despite the fact he was the one carrying them to great matches.

Basically it could be an internal war within SWF with older and talented guys having hatred for the over-pushed guys and RIPW graduates.

Despite being overlooked by SWF, Enygma's departure ends up sending shockwaves through the industry and a potential walkout from various SWF wrestlers.

[Remianen]

McFly needs to stay in NOTBPW. He doesn't have the mic skills and such to be a viable asset to the big promotions. He's a "wrestler" fit for a "wrestling" promotion. He's also too old for the other promotions. Places like TCW and SWF should be bringing in young talent, not older talent. And besides, if you look at it from a Cornellverse point of view, it's something that McFly wants. If he didn't, he'd be with the promotions in question.

I agree. Besides, NOTBPW winds up ruling the wrestling world anyway so McFly would be the biggest star in the world if he stays put.

Personally, I'd like to see someone like Preston Holt turn QAW into a bonafide power, making AAA look like just what it is: stuck in a previous era due to its staid owner.

5SSW should be Cult sized, propelled by the new feud: Sensational Ogiwara vs DEVIL Karube. Their secondary feud should be Thunder Hike vs a newly signed upstart in Shiori Jippensha (old school technician vs new school technician).

TCW should supplant SWF as the US's top promotion, driven upward by the defections of Angry Gilmore, Jack Bruce, Remo, and Marc DuBois.

One of the Japanese promotions should break through the glass ceiling and hit International after establishing a beach head somewhere (South West US or something).

Alicia Strong and Joanne Rodriguez should be putting on MOTY candidate matches, feuding on two continents (US and Japan).

Melody Cuthill, dismayed at the Jesus push Jana Marie Bowen has gotten, should defect from NOTBPW to AAA, where she headlines while feuding with Wanda Fish.

BSC should be Regional, after establishing themselves as a top attraction at the United States' top entertainment destination.

4C should experience some kind of event that makes them as popular in TEW08 as CZCW has been in 07. I dunno whether that means a change in product or roster or what, but something needs to happen to shake things up there.

Kinuye Mushashibo and Chitose Ariwara should be the top babyface midcard tag team, since Kiko Sakakibara is bound to be a main eventer (thus splitting The Rainbow Girls).

Someone in 5SSW's midcard (maybe Yuma Maruya) should've become available to work in the US and should be in AAA feuding with a heel Missy Masterson.

Steph Blake should be working AAA and UCR or the women's division of 21CW, if applicable.

I don't much care about SWF since I believe TCW should've easily overtaken them, given their roster and product (not to mention their figurehead, who can actually, oh I dunno, wrestle).

[juggaloninjalee]

What if CGC picked up Enygma, Liberty, and Cliff Wilson? That would give CGC a fighting chance against NOTBPW. They could have everyone on written deals and thise I think would give them the ability to compete with the Stones for a little bit. Or instead of Liberty maybe Nemesis to come in and work with the Elite. Give them the true leadership they need.

[Ping von Erich]

I've always thought the C-Verse data was to liberal with the Lifetime contracts..

All the Stone and DeColt kids being on written contracts keeps us from so many cool opportunities to shakea up the world. If you give guys like that loyalty or blood relative relationships, and the fed is big enough chances are those guys will stick around, but if the fed is suffering (CGC anyone) its sort of strange seeing all these uber talented DeColt's fighting it out in a dying regional fed.

Hate to use the "eeeeevil" real world comparison method, but look at the Hart's.. obviously they're loyal to Stampede, but when oppertunity beckoned and the chance to join a major fed came calling, they took it.

I say lifetime contracts should be reserved for owners, bookers, and special case talent.. not everyone related to the owner, that's just silly, IMO.

I mean, how cool would it be to, after months of trying, sign away Duane Stone of Ricky DeColt playing as TCW of WLW?


Just an idea.

[Sartagis]

Hate to use the "eeeeevil" real world comparison method, but look at the Hart's.. obviously they're loyal to Stampede, but when oppertunity beckoned and the chance to join a major fed came calling, they took it.
Actually they all left for big time feds because a big time fed bought the promotion out. None of the Hart boys and extended family (Davey Boy, Anvil, Dynamite, etc) wrestling in Stampede left untill Vince bought Stampede.

Not to say they wouldn't have eventually left Stampede.

[shamelessposer]

How about as Enygma's contract finishes, fed up with the way he has been overlooked behind other names on the roster, decides not to renew his SWF contract and instead shocks the world by appearing on DaVE with a shoot-promo revealing the true politics that seem to be going on in SWF.

What the promo revealed was that people that have poured all their effort into SWF are getting overlooked for guys who are considered flavour-of-the-months, people who are coming in straight from RIPW such as Nevada Nuclear are getting pushed way ahead of the hard-workers of the roster purely because of their looks.

This would work a lot better if Enygma wasn't a flavor-of-the-month who got pushed over the promotion's hard workers purely because of his looks.

The idea has some legs, though. Maybe replace "Enygma" with "Joe Sexy," "Angry Gilmore," or even "Sam Keith" and you've got something.

[The Franchise]

And the problem with that is that Joe Sexy would have no right to call anyone untalented and the fact that Sam Keith would have been the one pushing those flavor of the months. Angry Gilmore though, that would work. I'd think Gilmore would fit in real nice as a top star in DAVE.

[praguepride]

Here are a few ideas for the smaller feds.

RIPW
Under Professor Nero's leadership the promotion becomes huge. Getting up to regional status and in a huge public fiasco gets out from underneath SWF, ending the developmental relationship.

Meanwhile the other big two North American promotions, seeing how successful RIPW was (before the big split) they both start their own developmental federations.

California Pro Wrestling
With help and backing from Tommy Cornell and TCW, Preston Holt is able to re-open CPW wrestling. Signing upcoming new stars like California Love Machine, but also signing several luchadores from Mexico, including Sufeador Californiano (redubed California Surfer), Velocidad (redubed Velocity) and even stealing Rebelde Loco (redubed Crazy Rebel) from MPWF resulting in a rather unique blend of modern American wrestling and action packed lucahdore.

British Columbia Wrestling
NOTBPW honors all that Alysian Scottsfield has done for the promotion by handing over the reigns to the start up development promotion to him. Alysian starts by hiring Canadian indies like Biff the Bruiser, Bob Casey, Cal Sanders, Weird Waldo Odlaw, and Thomas Morgan. He creates a promotion that is a bit more hardcore/brawling oriented then typical NOTBPW fair, and as a result NOTPBW fan's aren't fans of BCW's more Sport Entertainment/Hardcore approach, causing the promotion to flounder.

Canadian Women's Wrestling Federation
Heidi Brookes uses her influence to start up a direct competition to AAA and NOTBPW Women's Division. She hires Eve Grunge and April Appleseed who are independent, but also raids both NOTBPW and AAA rosters, using her influence to procure up-and-comer Golden Delicious and Jessica Bunny from AAA, and Stephanie Hazel from NOTBPW

Here's a list of all the new workers and where they'll go.

[B]Alicia Strong - Quickly snatched by NOTBPW to a written deal and quickly wins the Women's Division belt.
Amber Allen - She follows her mentor to the new CWWF
Ash Campbell - Free agent after having a huge fight with his father and refusing to join DAVE.
Ashley Grover - AAA hires her to replace workers lost by CWWF
Bulldozer Brandon Smith - After a big media fight between SWF and TCW, Brandon decides to join SWF after they secretly promise him a title run. He shocks the world on his debut when he beats Runaway Train for the title (this was also prompted as Runaway Train retires). While Bulldozer is competent and becomes popular, he doesn't gain popularity quick enough and Christian Faith takes the title off of him 2 months later before handing the title off to Eric Eisen who is the current SWF Champion.
Bussho Makiguchi - follows in his mentor's footsteps by getting hired on PGHW track. Currently a SAISHO main eventer
Cameron Vessey - PGHW was so happy about Carmeron's father and uncle that they make SAISHO pick up Cameron, and by now he's the main event and title holder. Cameron is just about ready to be brought up into PGHW's full roster.
Carlos Gonzalez - hired on by the dying DAVE and gets lost in the mid-card.
Casey Valentine - After a brief stint with MAW, Casey decides to go out on the open market becoming a free agent.
Chojiro Kitoaji - fast-tracked into PGHW mid-card. This upsets a lot of the midcard that he is being pushed although he is still a "young lion" and this results in several mid-carders leaving PGHW.
Daredevil Aero - Hired by CPW to help them achieve their "luchadore-esque" feel
Davis Wayne Newton - Hired by BCW and jobbed for awhile as Alysian is very adamant that every young person "puts in their time." Unhappy with this, he leaves BCW and gets hired by RIPW instead.
El Fuerza - follows Champagne Lover into SOTBPW
El Hijo Del Zonk - OLLIE
El Hijo Espada Roja - Snatched up by recently expanded MPWF
Etsuko Arihyoshi - while 5SSW signed her to a PPA, CWWF also gets her on a PPA causing the poor young girl to constantly transport back and forth across the ocean for the two feds.
Extreme Deluxe - Hired by CZCW who were looking for a nice young spot monkey. Unfortunately Extreme Deluxe wasn't satisfied being in the lower midcards and left after four months, becoming a free agent.
Fearless Blue - Also hired by CZCW. Unlike Extreme Deluxe Fearless Blue thrived in the CZCW setting, becoming a decent midcarder
Gargantuan - Snatched up by BHOTWG as a "New Dread" to combat PGHW's rising popularity.
Gino Montero - follows in father's footsteps
Harlem Haynes - R.K Hayes pulls a few strings to get Harlem into a good position in BCW. Alysian doesn't appreciate young upstarts and so jobs Harlem down to the lower midcards. Irritated by the lack of appreciation, both R.K Hayes and Harlem Haynes defect and go over to CGC.
Jaime Quinn - AAA uses Jaime's sister, Catherine to influence the young women to sign on to help replace the workers CWWF stole away.
Jay Chord - Hired by MAW. Joins with Randy Maxx to win newly created MAW Tag Team Title.
Kanishoki - Picked up by GCG in the wake of Tana the Mighty. Unlike Tana, GCG actually keeps Kanishoki.
King Kong Kennedy - Picked up by USPW
Kristen Pearce - Is signed by newly arrived CPW as colour commentator.
La Sombra Jr. - Free agent
Mabuchi Furusawa - signed by GCG
Nathaniel Ca$ino - signs on with local startup CPW
Ox Kreviazuk - Hired by USPW due to Strong's friendship with Dread.
Primus Allen - free agent
Seiji Jimbo - Briefly hired by SAISHO to be developed, but Seiji quickly proved himself able and PGHW brought him up after only a month.
Super Sonic - Picked up north of the border under 4C. The Redneck gimmick has gone over only moderately so he is still stuck in the opening acts.
Ultra Atlantis - signed by MPWF
Ultra Spark Jr - hired by CPW after being unable to find work in Mexico due to the reputation of his father.
Xavier Reckless - picked up by RIPW and currently being jobbed around.



Promotion Size Changes:


BHOTWG: National -> Cult (given their roster and who they're pushing, they will continue to decline)
BSC: Small -> Local as lack in popularity drives them down and down
DAVE: Cult -> Regional
MAW: Local -> Small
MPWF: Regional -> Cult - With a recent surge of talent to bolster their already talented roster they seize #1 position in Mexico.
NOTBPW: National -> International (suddenly NOTBPW rises up to rival SWF for largest fed in the world)
NYCW: Bankrupt
RIPW: Local -> Regional
SAISHO: Local -> Small
USPW: Regional -> Cult
WEXXV: Bankrupt



Meanwhile in other news, The Stomper retires and without his popularity in the ring NYCW finally plummets and goes out of business. USPW, having risen to Cult status under Sam Strong's guidance buys out most of the roster, while the other workers drift around to other organizations.

Overseas WEXXV finally closes shop releasing a surge of talentless brawlers into the Japan scene. A few get hired here and but most remain unemployed. Because of the huge surge in Japanese unemployed workers, many of the unemployed workers head elsewhere, with the majority heading to Europe or Mexico.

[Michael Wayne]

All the Stone and DeColt kids being on written contracts keeps us from so many cool opportunities to shakea up the world. If you give guys like that loyalty or blood relative relationships, and the fed is big enough chances are those guys will stick around, but if the fed is suffering (CGC anyone) its sort of strange seeing all these uber talented DeColt's fighting it out in a dying regional fed.


Stampede Wrestling? World Class Championship Wrestling? Any of those names sound familiar? That's pretty much what the kids from those families did. They left when the fed was pretty much extinct.

In all honesty. I'd rather see CGC close doors. Realizing that trying win over Canada is a losing battle. CGC closes, and the Stones welcome the additions of the DeColt family with several firings from their own roster to supplement. If Enygma is going to leave, he should leave for USPW. I can already see him and Bruce the Giant having excellent chemistry.. :)

[praguepride]

What if CGC gets a huge boost from an unexpected source? Like an unhappy Edd Stone defecting over to NOTBPW's chief rival?

[Michael Wayne]

What if CGC gets a huge boost from an unexpected source? Like an unhappy Edd Stone defecting over to NOTBPW's chief rival?

"Mr. Free Spirit" who is always late? It wouldn't be good for the compny. And Mr. Stone is always miserable. Might as well let him be miserable with his own family.. :p

[Ping von Erich]

Stampede Wrestling? World Class Championship Wrestling? Any of those names sound familiar? That's pretty much what the kids from those families did. They left when the fed was pretty much extinct.

In all honesty. I'd rather see CGC close doors. Realizing that trying win over Canada is a losing battle. CGC closes, and the Stones welcome the additions of the DeColt family with several firings from their own roster to supplement. If Enygma is going to leave, he should leave for USPW. I can already see him and Bruce the Giant having excellent chemistry.. :)

Indeed they do ring a bell, but (and I've tested this) just putting them (them being the DeColt's and the Stone's) on written contacts and them having the blood relationship to the owner, they stuck around without the need for lifetime contracts. And, as you said, once the fed fell to like regional or what not (which CGC did in my game) Steve and Jack both left for greener pastures, and even then Alex and Ricky were turning down offers from bigger feds left and right.

Putting ALL those great workers on lifetime contracts is needlessly avoiding a really cool game dynamic (actual AI controlled loyalty to a promotion)

[James Casey]

He turns up in WMMA.. J.K Stallings you mean.. Debuts 2004 just after he sells HGC

If he's a fighter - still haven't got around to buying WMMMA yet - then Adam is riffing on Pete the tycoon from Friends...

*

If PvE is right, then making these contract changes for the families could be cool. Maybe keep one or two on Lifetime deals, because someone could easily be said to never want to leave, but seeing the big guns out in the wider world could be cool.

*

praguepride comes up with some interesting possibilities, but if Primus Allen is a free agent, I'll be shocked - he seems ideal for DaVE or even SWF/RIPW.

I desperately want Jay Chord to join MAW - he's never come close to us in my game, and with Rip having passed on, he's not liekly to for a while.

[Midnightnick]

If he's a fighter - still haven't got around to buying WMMMA yet - then Adam is riffing on Pete the tycoon from Friends...

*

If PvE is right, then making these contract changes for the families could be cool. Maybe keep one or two on Lifetime deals, because someone could easily be said to never want to leave, but seeing the big guns out in the wider world could be cool.

*

praguepride comes up with some interesting possibilities, but if Primus Allen is a free agent, I'll be shocked - he seems ideal for DaVE or even SWF/RIPW.

I desperately want Jay Chord to join MAW - he's never come close to us in my game, and with Rip having passed on, he's not liekly to for a while.

Stallings as a fighter would be fun, but he's just an investor.

[praguepride]

Oh, I forgot to mention who I thought would die. My vote is Dan Stone Sr. but then NOTBPW would need a new 'Dan Stone Memorial Tournament.'

I don't think it's going to be Rip Chord, it's much more fun to have him around as long as possible. I also don't think it will be Sam Strong or Tommy Cornell. In fact, I think it will be a big shakeup in the Far East. Here are my thoughts:

Richard Eisen bites it in a car accident.

or

Sadahuru Jimbo (owner of PGHW) dies of natural causes.

or

Hanshiro Furusawa (owner of GCG) dies of natural causes. As part of his will, the promotion gets transferred to Kazu Yoshizawa who although lacks the business sense quickly turns GCG around from a dying giant to a rising star again. Within just 9 months GCG has risen to Cult level in Japan, hiring a bunch of stars and stealing talent from INSPIRE and BHOTWG.

[Jonfun]

I would like SWF, TCW workers and feds to be more over in Europe. So if you manage to get one of thier guys into a European fed it would be a big thing.

[Ping von Erich]

Having Richard Eisen kick the bucket had having an on air (and behind the scenes) power struggle between Eric and Jerry would be awesome. Have Eric be all about sports entertainment and pushing the big muscle head hoss' and have Jerry emerge as a great booker and want to push the guys like Sam Keith and Tom Gilmore, maybe ever utilize the brand split functionality of the game.

Could be a cool little addition to gameplay.

[Beeker]

Indeed they do ring a bell, but (and I've tested this) just putting them (them being the DeColt's and the Stone's) on written contacts and them having the blood relationship to the owner, they stuck around without the need for lifetime contracts. And, as you said, once the fed fell to like regional or what not (which CGC did in my game) Steve and Jack both left for greener pastures, and even then Alex and Ricky were turning down offers from bigger feds left and right.

Putting ALL those great workers on lifetime contracts is needlessly avoiding a really cool game dynamic (actual AI controlled loyalty to a promotion)

Personally, I wouldn't mind if ONE DeColt or ONE Stone, essentially the chosen one of the patriarch was kept on the lifetime contract while the rest went to written.

I don't see the reason for so many to be wrapped up. If Alex DeColt and Dan Stone (and *maybe* Victoria Stone) enjoyed lifetime contracts it would freshen up the 'family business' in Canada.

[Ping von Erich]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if ONE DeColt or ONE Stone, essentially the chosen one of the patriarch was kept on the lifetime contract while the rest went to written.

I don't see the reason for so many to be wrapped up. If Alex DeColt and Dan Stone (and *maybe* Victoria Stone) enjoyed lifetime contracts it would freshen up the 'family business' in Canada.

Agreed, I mean, how many people running a Burning Hammer game wouldn't love to bring in Duane Stone on a written deal? Or someone running an SWF or TCW game didn't look at Jack or Steve DeColt and think.. *woot* the possibilities.

[Bolton]

I got another idea, this one's for DAVE...

Jack Giedroyc becomes "The Wrath of God" and is just about to win the Unifed title, thus becoming one of the most-sought after foriegn workers in the US. But when SWF and TCW offer him lucturative contracts, he refuses to sign (and do what Phil Vibert called "doing a Kurt Laramee"). It turns out the reason he stays loyal to DAVE is that he figuries that he'll just be made to make the SWF and TCW guys look better then him. (Also they would censor his "Wrath of God" character) This gains him huge respect in DAVE, as Big Cat Brandon and several of the younger DAVE top-carders are looking to leave for SWF or TCW.

[Twilight]

Whatever else happens, a grassroots upturn in wrestling fandom leads to the formation of a few promising but tiny local promotions all across the world who gladly take on untested unproven talent...

[hrdcoresidebrns]

Rip Chord dying seems likely, simply because I think he's died in every game file I've ever played over 6 months. Also, we can throw Sessue Kawate in there as well.

I figure that WEXXV will close down, and maybe move some of the workers onto a new sports entertainment promotion? I think a SE promotion in Japan would be great, with maybe a few new workers to fill out the roster a bit. I also second the opinion that Furusawa will get bounced out of GCG and they will, in turn, become a factor in Japan.

Also, I can see something opening up in the US, maybe more of an ROH type promotion? North America really lacks something along the lines of a strong indy promotion that fills that niche. I mean they already have a cruiserweight (CZCW), a hardcore (DAVE), and a traditional indy (USPW), why not a pure wrestling one? But then, that could just be because I don't have a Japanese style fed to play as in America. :-P

[brat99]

Also, I can see something opening up in the US, maybe more of an ROH type promotion? North America really lacks something along the lines of a strong indy promotion that fills that niche. I mean they already have a cruiserweight (CZCW), a hardcore (DAVE), and a traditional indy (USPW), why not a pure wrestling one? But then, that could just be because I don't have a Japanese style fed to play as in America. :-P

Say hello to my little friend......PWMax (out of the new fed file and into the current one):D

[cappyboy]

Also, I can see something opening up in the US, maybe more of an ROH type promotion? North America really lacks something along the lines of a strong indy promotion that fills that niche. I mean they already have a cruiserweight (CZCW), a hardcore (DAVE), and a traditional indy (USPW), why not a pure wrestling one? But then, that could just be because I don't have a Japanese style fed to play as in America. :-P

I have the perfect answer to the dilemma. I know I've mentioned part of it before. NYCW. With what their project is at the moment and the roster they have, this could be a good survival plan for them.

So what happens is that The Stomper either dies or retires. Either he or his heir sells the promotion to an Americanized Japanese investor. Someone like a Fumohiro Ota or the father/uncle thereof. The new owner takes a look at the NYCW and its typical startup roster and decides to go more pure like a RoH. This would honor Stomper's prior vision of the company while updating it at the same time. All while filling a niche in the US market in an realistically accurate part of the country.

[praguepride]

My money is still on that a promotion is due to close up shop, and NYCW is high on the chopping block, imo.

The best thing for them would be if something like cappyboy suggested occurs but I think they'll need a new name and a new logo.

I hope they go belly up though. USPW when it goes cult can hire up their older talent while the younger talent will drift to various feds.

Ha ha, that's right. NYCW talent is an oxymoron :D

[Blackman]

All right, let the speculation on the reworked C-Verse area begin. :D

I'm shooting for Europe, since it can use an overhaul, or 'some' attention at least. :rolleyes: TEW07 saw an overhaul in the UK, I think the EU is next.

[Midnightnick]

All right, let the speculation on the reworked C-Verse area begin. :D

I'm shooting for Europe, since it can use an overhaul, or 'some' attention at least. :rolleyes: TEW07 saw an overhaul in the UK, I think the EU is next.

Oh god, I hope. Europe has so much potental.

[praguepride]

Yeah, NA, UK and Japan have all seen big changes (USPW rising, 21CW revamping, INSPIRE stealing BHOTWG talent) so I think the only logical place that's left is the underutilized Europe scene. Maybe a rival opens up, some kind of quasi-Soviet Iron Curtain style that gives UCR a run for it's limited money.

[Dragonmack]

My money is still on that a promotion is due to close up shop, and NYCW is high on the chopping block, imo.

The best thing for them would be if something like cappyboy suggested occurs but I think they'll need a new name and a new logo.

I hope they go belly up though. USPW when it goes cult can hire up their older talent while the younger talent will drift to various feds.

Ha ha, that's right. NYCW talent is an oxymoron :D

Jeez, why all the hate on my favorite promotion? :mad: :p

They have a perfect niche as a place where old school traditional wrestlers can go to either end or rebuild their career. Stomper isn't even the original owner as far as I know, as according to it's history, it was opened in 1988 ,
and even if he died, there is always someone like a Black Hat Bailey, a Robert Oxford, Sam Keith or Whistler who could slot right in as an Owner and be right at home.

[praguepride]

Sorry Dragonmack, but the problem with NYCW is that USPW is basically providing the same thing but only with bigger, better stars. Once NYCW's few stars start retiring in droves there will be nobody left to put into the ring.

[Apupunchau@optonline]

Jeez, why all the hate on my favorite promotion? :mad: :p

They have a perfect niche as a place where old school traditional wrestlers can go to either end or rebuild their career. Stomper isn't even the original owner as far as I know, as according to it's history, it was opened in 1988 ,
and even if he died, there is always someone like a Black Hat Bailey, a Robert Oxford, Sam Keith or Whistler who could slot right in as an Owner and be right at home.

I say Steve Flash takes over if Stomper kicks it.

[Blackman]

I'd stay Flash turns his but to that promotion and returns to NOTBPW. But that, alas, will never happen. :D

[Dragonmack]

Sorry Dragonmack, but the problem with NYCW is that USPW is basically providing the same thing but only with bigger, better stars. Once NYCW's few stars start retiring in droves there will be nobody left to put into the ring.

Not really as USPW is more like 80's WWF with all the over the top cartoon characters whereas NYCW is really more like NWA back in the Harley Race era where it is more about the wrestlers and the ring and less about the gimmicks.

And as there will always be wrestlers getting old or getting pushed out by younger stars, NYCW should always have a steady supply of recycles to use.

[praguepride]

Not really as USPW is more like 80's WWF with all the over the top cartoon characters whereas NYCW is really more like NWA back in the Harley Race era where it is more about the wrestlers and the ring and less about the gimmicks.

And as there will always be wrestlers getting old or getting pushed out by younger stars, NYCW should always have a steady supply of recycles to use.

I'll take your word for it, I was just comparing the two products:

NYCW:
Key - Traditional
Medium - Mainstream & Realism

USPW:
Key - Mainstream
Heavy - Traditional
Medium - Comedy

So by looking at the two it seems the comedy factor is the biggest difference. But with USPW on the rise and TCW continuing to thrive, the "Real Wrestler" and "Traditional Wrestling" markets are pretty crowded.

[Eisen-verse]

I would love to see CZCW continue to rise. They are one of the only companies that really pushes the whole "Modern" style in the US (Other than DAVE). If it is classified as a "modern" style then most likely the "modern" audience would love to see some variety instead of the same heavyweight and superheavyweights dragging their feet in the ring.

It would be cool to see CZCW climb up in popularity as they offer an alternative product. Maybe see some smaller workers from other various promotions jump ship due to the fact that they could open up there style a lot more. Maybe some former CZCW stand-outs who are now with different companies could go back as well seeing how they can see the company growing again.

Also, maybe update their logo to something more new-age like.

[praguepride]

I would like a changeup in the CZCW roster though. I just can't take any of their workers seriously with every other worker either a) masked or b) an animal name.

I really like 4C, good roster and good product. They really deserve to rise up.

[mad5226]

CZCW should rise somewhat maybe get a TV deal with Los Deportes (or whatever that station is called) and start expanding into Northern Mexico since their style works so well there.

[Self]

I started a game with DAVE this weekend after I realised they were almost the type of show I want to see on TV. An ultra-violent manly show for men. It is fun.

Please don't kill DAVE.

[Rob4590]

Killing off any of the promotions would be a step backwards IMO - why?

Well because there are going to be players who use every promotion in the game - and killing off their fave is going to be a bad thing for them.

Size changes, roster changes, new workers, even new promotions - well obviously these changes will happen, but why restrict the choice of promotions by having one of the originals be killed off? :rolleyes:

[FINisher]

My predictions:

- USPW has succeeded under Sam Strongs leadership and gone National
- MAW is Regional, at least. Rip Chord has passed away, and Jay Chord is on Lifetime contract with MAW to honor the legacy. Or something like that.
- 21st CW's rose too fast and now they are struggling with too large roster; MOSC and ROF have catched up with 21CW, hopefully.
- GCG has gone Cult, and the new young stars have taken the torch from the old guys.

I really HOPE that every continent is stable and even; I hated the 21CW uprising in the UK. So I really want my Cornellverse to be more competitive and even :) That is all. Can't wait to actually find out what will happen!

[Frank_Vest]

Mad Dog Mortimer does procure his cult following and becomes somewhat over in a smaller promotion (USPW?).

[Clarity]

Actually i reckon that The Minor Annoyance suddenly becomes a hit...

*snickers*

Yeah like that would ever happen

[mad5226]

Cal Sanders finally gets a job and succeds... that would make my day =)

[Frank_Vest]

Actually i reckon that The Minor Annoyance suddenly becomes a hit...

*snickers*

Yeah like that would ever happen

Maybe a a Minor Annoyance/Mad Dog Mortimer tag team? The Ugmoes?

[Clarity]

Maybe a a Minor Annoyance/Mad Dog Mortimer tag team? The Ugmoes?

An ugly underdog tag team. That would be funny

[juggaloninjalee]

Babes of Sin City should have a built in cult following since it is in Vegas. I don't see how they could lose money there because every show seems to sell out there.

MAW should be rising I think since they have a talented roster and a good owner. They should have workers loyal to them as they gain a tv deal and become a blip on the radar of SWF, TCW, and DaVE.

[eayragt]

I think people need to calm down a little with all the promotions rising so fast. It's just 18 months down the road, and I can't see more than the odd small fed becoming regional (apart from any "major" changes, such as USPW and 1CW last time, butthat was due to a change in owners).

And about BSC - if you follow them in the game - they don't generally lose money! They quite happily sell out a tiny venue, making a profit at every show from their base. Don't run any good matches, but that's not what people are paying to see.

[Derek B]

I think people need to calm down a little with all the promotions rising so fast. It's just 18 months down the road, and I can't see more than the odd small fed becoming regional (apart from any "major" changes, such as USPW and 1CW last time, butthat was due to a change in owners).

And about BSC - if you follow them in the game - they don't generally lose money! They quite happily sell out a tiny venue, making a profit at every show from their base. Don't run any good matches, but that's not what people are paying to see.

Wha...?!

You mean EVERY PROMOTION IN THE WORLD won't have grown bigger since the last Cornellverse update!! Preposterous!!! How dare they not try harder!! :rolleyes:

[praguepride]

Wha...?!

You mean EVERY PROMOTION IN THE WORLD won't have grown bigger since the last Cornellverse update!! Preposterous!!! How dare they not try harder!! :rolleyes:

Now there's someone on the bandwagon. I won't be happy unless BSC is at least Cult level :D

[Derek B]

Now there's someone on the bandwagon. I won't be happy unless BSC is at least Cult level :D

You just wanna perv at them on National TV. I know your kind! :p

[praguepride]

You just wanna perv at them on National TV. I know your kind! :p

Once you get off your high horse I think you'll realize that you'd watch them too :D

[Derek B]

Once you get off your high horse I think you'll realize that you'd watch them too :D

When did I say I wouldn't? Roxy Kitten for the win!! :p

[juggaloninjalee]

BSC is the greatest!!! I always get it as a developement for my womens division.

[Nightshadeex]

At least I'm not the only one who is a Leisure Suit Morty fan.

[praguepride]

Morty? I thought it was Leisure Suit Larry

[Nightshadeex]

That was my Mad Dog Mortimer gimmick. He got waaaay over with it.

[praguepride]

That was my Mad Dog Mortimer gimmick. He got waaaay over with it.


Nicely done. I can see that happening IRL. I take it you used the lounge lizard gimmick?

[Nightshadeex]

I absolutely did.

[Blackman]

BSC is the greatest!!! I always get it as a developement for my womens division.

development? :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised if your workers returned worse off than they started. :)

[brat99]

At least I'm not the only one who is a Leisure Suit Morty fan.

That was my Mad Dog Mortimer gimmick. He got waaaay over with it.

You mean this guy?

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/brat99/Cornellverse/Alternate%20Pics/MadDogMortimer_Leisure1.jpg http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/brat99/Cornellverse/Alternate%20Pics/MadDogMortimer_Leisure2.jpg

[juggaloninjalee]

I usually only use females as managers. Besides I put more talented girls there to improve the BSC roster lol.

[Nightshadeex]

You mean this guy?

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/brat99/Cornellverse/Alternate%20Pics/MadDogMortimer_Leisure1.jpg http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/brat99/Cornellverse/Alternate%20Pics/MadDogMortimer_Leisure2.jpg

Oh, that is just awesome. Thank you very much. I've always wanted an alternate pic for him!!!

[Frank_Vest]

Oh, that is just awesome. Thank you very much. I've always wanted an alternate pic for him!!!

Wanna start a fan club?

[CJ_S]

Wigan Style 4 Life!

:D damn right :D Sorry, I always get a bit excited when Wigan gets mentioned in TEW...it's the only reason Leo Price and Walt' Morgan have jobs in my game :cool:

[djlightning]

How about this for a scenerio. Edd Stone, Ricky DeColt and Eric Eisen form a wrestling promotion of their own, under the financial backing of J.K. Stallings. The reason for this unusual alliance? All three felt, that they needed more control than they had in their father's promotion.

[Sigilistic]

How about this for a scenerio. Edd Stone, Ricky DeColt and Eric Eisen form a wrestling promotion of their own, under the financial backing of J.K. Stallings. The reason for this unusual alliance? All three felt, that they needed more control than they had in their father's promotion.

Given the track records of those four men, you do realize said promotion would disintegrate in about 3 months, right? :D

[Omotigre]

ROF Must have a better finance situation

[Wallbanger]

A thought might be for one of the major (i.e. National plus) feds to start with a brand split -- in fairness, though, to make that worthwhile you'd need to make sure that those companies didn't collapse and go to Cult in the first six months!

[Peppy Hare]

I'd love to see Rip Chord come out of retirement, maybe just to work for MAW.
Also, I'd love to see the UK wrestling scene grow a little.

If TEW 08 has a kind of umbrella system then maybe a NWA like organisation could be developed in the cornellverse.

[shamelessposer]

If TEW 08 has a kind of umbrella system then maybe a NWA like organisation could be developed in the cornellverse.

I'd like to see a few western promotions (CZCW, PWMAX, maybe one of the lucha promotions) form a group like this, and then have a rival group in the east composed of USPW, MAW and NYCW.

Also, do a barrel roll!

[Actarus]

Adam's latest journal update regarding openings / closures made me realize one thing I'd like to see with the C-Verse: more graduates of the dojos. And not just new workers, but with some of the young wrestlers as well. I'm not saying every single worker needs to have gone to one of the three dojos, but it'd be nice if at least a couple of 100 or so went somewhere. For example, it'd be nice to know that Hell Monkey graduated Piledriver wrestling school in 200?. Personally, I think it'd inject some additional life into the characters, into the schools, and into the 'verse as well, making their training more significant. As it stands now, it just looks odd that of the 1000's of wrestlers, no one's graduated anywhere.

[Bolton]

This may be a bit inappropiate, but here's my opinion on the 08 Canadian scene...

CGC (which is my favourite Canadian promotion by the way ;) ) finally hit national thanks to giving the title to Eddie Chandler, whose "No matter what happens manages to weasel out of losing the title" ways causes an immense surge in popularity as everyone wants the DeColts to beat Chandler.

NOTBPW and Canadian wrestling is rocked by the death of Dan Stone. Dan Stone Jr, thanks to being the favourite son, takes control and becomes an ruthless figure, stealing talent from everywhere and giving the title to himself (or at least everytime someone beats him for the title, he gets it back three or four months later) Edd Stone, who is still recovering from Ol' Dan's death, gets bad blood with Dan Stone Jr and several of the talent (I picture Tim Westybrook, Omar Brown, The Can-Am Blondes and R.K Hayes) leave along with him in protest to CGC. In other words, CGC is in a prospeous era having just hit National and NOTBPW is teetering on the edge of falling to Cult size.

[Weinberg]

As a Canadian, I don't like the Canadian scene one bit. I tried multiple time but I can't play it for long. There is simply zero realism there.

How come over 30% of the North American workers (excluding Mexco) are Canadians yet we are only 9% or so of the North American population? Once, I tried to give priority to Canadian workers, but quickly realized, why would I, they are everywhere already anyway.

How come a "National" Canadian fed has the financial power that a "National" American fed has? Would a "National" level fed in Liechenstein also have that leverage? The Canadian market is less than 10% the US market, how come its the same size in the game? Why would Edge sign a written deal with a Canadian fed over the WWE?

I think both CGC and NOTBPW should be reduced to regional (or at least to cult). I thnk 4C should be raised to regional. I think with Adam's new competitiveness system, this dynamic and trying to grow more powerful should make it interesting.

To keep going on the Canadian scene, I start every game moving Duane to Japan, Dan Jr to one of the two big US and Jack and Steve DeColt to the other big US fed. I also reduce the two big Canadian fed to regional. Simply more realism. I can keep doing that, Adam, no need to do it with the original game. It might ofend some of my fellow Canadians. Or it might not. I don't know.

As for the game, MAW should stay small. Most fun small fed to work with. Four or five new MAW workers however. Small fed tend to have multiple changes to the roster. DAVE to regional and USPW to cult. NYCW to Pure and to small (its only begining the new change - make it a regional or cult in TEW 2009/2010).

However, without having tested the new competitiveness system, you might want to consider keeping DAVE to cult while still raising USPW to cult. I don't know. It depends how the new system is implemented.

If you raise CZCW and/or MAW to regional, consider introducing a new fed which would not be a development fed. New small feds are often the most exciting to play. I ignore why.

Speaking of development fed, how come in Eastside Hockey Manager, I can play the minor leagues and have guys assigned to my team, yet here I can't play a minor federation (develpment fed)? You can control the ECHL and have guys sent from two teams, the NHL and the AHL (anoter minor league team which you can control). Since you both use elicense and are both British, why don't you talk to each other and figure out what they program that you are not programming... just an idea.

Playing a development fed would be a nice challenge. The main goal would be to produce X amount of new talented guys rather than always trying to grow. Again, just an idea (and no longer related to the thread).

[Greg McNeish]

In regards to the last poster's comments on the Canadian wrestling scene:

Adam has specifically mentioned in the past that, in his alternate reality, the Canadian and American wrestling scenes are seperate, and viable entities. Unlike reality, where American wrestling is basically all we've got up here, the Cornell-Verse has large, independent, and competitive promotions that are based in Canada. This is why the SWF & TCW don't have a lot of Popularity in Canada, and why NOTBPW & CGC don't have much in America.

Edge wouldn't sign a written contract with a Canadian promotion, because there are NO Canadian promotions that could afford what he's worth, and because he's extremely popular in all of North America, and the WWE is the largest fed in BOTH countries.

If Edge were in the Cornell-Verse, with his Popularity slightly higher in Canada than America, he'd have his choice of employers, but might STILL not come to Canada, because NOTBPW is only National, and SWF is International.

There's no need to reconcile this alternate reality with the real world. That's what makes in "alternate".

Cheers!

[dvdWarrior]

There's no need to reconcile this alternate reality with the real world. That's what makes in "alternate".
I couldn't agree more with that statement. I've always loved that the CornellVerse is such a drastic departure from the known real world, and that Canada has a pretty strong wrestling industry in its own right there. It makes for a more dynamic game world in my view, and for more fun games. It breathes its own sort of life into this alternate reality.

I'm hoping that in '08, Australia has a little something going for it as well, maybe a strong national promotion of its own. I don't know how likely that might be, but I'd like to see it.

:)

[GuyInTheCorner]

I couldn't agree more with that statement. I've always loved that the CornellVerse is such a drastic departure from the known real world, and that Canada has a pretty strong wrestling industry in its own right there. It makes for a more dynamic game world in my view, and for more fun games. It breathes its own sort of life into this alternate reality.

I'm hoping that in '08, Australia has a little something going for it as well, maybe a strong national promotion of its own. I don't know how likely that might be, but I'd like to see it.

:)

I'd imagine that the initial Australian scene would be similar to the current UK/Europe C-verse scene. Few promotions, thin talent pool. Considering they previously weren't even in the game at all a National promotion seems really unrealistic, even for an alternate universe.

[dvdWarrior]

I'd imagine that the initial Australian scene would be similar to the current UK/Europe C-verse scene. Few promotions, thin talent pool. Considering they previously weren't even in the game at all a National promotion seems really unrealistic, even for an alternate universe.
If that's the case, it might be even better. I could just pick out one of those promotions and build a national powerhouse from the ground up.

:)

[Bolton]

If that's the case, it might be even better. I could just pick out one of those promotions and build a national powerhouse from the ground up.

:)

Don't forget that there's probobly going to be a batch of new Australian characters! :)

[Rob4590]

Speaking of development fed, how come in Eastside Hockey Manager, I can play the minor leagues and have guys assigned to my team, yet here I can't play a minor federation (develpment fed)? You can control the ECHL and have guys sent from two teams, the NHL and the AHL (anoter minor league team which you can control). Since you both use elicense and are both British, why don't you talk to each other and figure out what they program that you are not programming... just an idea.

I'm sorry but that really is the most laughable paragraph I've read for a while (and given some of the utter rubbish that has been posted on these boards recently, that is really saying something!)

To expect that a totally separate company is going to help Adam to write a game is completely daft, besides the fact that the games are totally different.

And as for the line "since you both use elicense and are both British" - comments like that just cement the idea to the rest of the world that North Americans have ZERO clue about anything that happens in the rest of the world (apologies to those that do!) - you make it sound like Britain is this tiny little village with just a few hundred people, and everyone knows each other.

Always best to engage brain before trying to communicate! :rolleyes:

[Weinberg]

LOL. You make me laugh. I wont take your insult personally since you know nothing of me. And I won't reply in kind either. LOL.

As for my defense, I simply meant they may have a similar perspective on programming since they use elicense, which most programmer choose not (but doesn't guarantee they do, its only one variable).

They may even know each other since they are British. As an accountant, I know all the accountants in my town and I am friends with most of them, I also know personally just about every "famous" accountant in my home province, and multiple "famous" accountant in my country, my neighbor doesn't know any but me. I don't know any programmer personally but Adam may know some.

I've learned as much about my profession (especially tax) by discussing it then by reading and doing it.

And you are right, programmers probably never talk to each other. Especially about programming. That's not their passion, right?

[sebsplex]

As for my defense, I simply meant they may have a similar perspective on programming since they use elicense, which most programmer choose not (but doesn't guarantee they do, its only one variable).

elicense isn't a programming language, it deals with the licenses required to play the game.

As for programmers talking to each other, sure, but there's some distance between that and openly throwing around their source code.

CGC (which is my favourite Canadian promotion by the way ;) ) finally hit national thanks to giving the title to Eddie Chandler, whose "No matter what happens manages to weasel out of losing the title" ways causes an immense surge in popularity as everyone wants the DeColts to beat Chandler.

I think I'd be happy if CGC just started with Adrian Garcia and Sean Deeley on written contracts.

[Adam Ryland]

As for my defense, I simply meant they may have a similar perspective on programming since they use elicense, which most programmer choose not (but doesn't guarantee they do, its only one variable).

Just for clarity, ELicense is a security tool, it has nothing to do with the programmer.

Regarding the issue though, it's hard to explain to a non-programmer, but what you're suggesting really isn't viable. How a lower-level team in a hockey game works would very likely have absolutely nothing in common with how a development promotion works in a wrestling game ... the best example I can give is that what you're asking is similar to suggesting that a painter would take advice from a musician on the grounds that they're both "artists". That may be true, but it doesn't mean they have anything in common with each other.

[Franchise22]

dave needs to fold.....

a faster pace promo opened by a former star should be opened ala jeff jarrett and TNA :)

[praguepride]

dave needs to fold.....

a faster pace promo opened by a former star should be opened ala jeff jarrett and TNA :)


a fast paced fed like CZCW or 4C perhaps?

[Self]

dave needs to fold.....

Why? How would that make the C-Verse better?

[Franchise22]

a fast paced fed like CZCW or 4C perhaps?

they seem to cater ONLY to quick pace and really dont need storylines. i dont think they would compare to TNA well IMO.


as for DAVE, i just think its run its course and should got the way of the original ECW......

only ideas is all.

[dvdWarrior]

I'd be pretty sad to see DAVE fade away into the night, but I probably wouldn't mind seeing them struggle a bit. Might make it easier for me to take Sammy Bach and Teddy Powell off their hands.

I was actually hoping DAVE might be in the process of making a rebound.

:)

[falling_star]

I really hope DAVE doesn't fold, even if they have fallen even further; rather than having them go out like ECW, I think it'd be really cool to play through a 're-establishing' period with them. They have a group of dedicated veterans and promotion truebloods, and a group of hungry young workers desperate to prove themselves.

[Sammartino]

Well,
this is my dreams:

Europe - other 2 Federations one in Western Europe and one in Scandinavian/Central Europe

Ireland - a local Fed is born

Australia - 2 Local Fed. I'm really interested about the product they offer.

USA - some other cult/local promotions (i.e. CHIKARA style)

Great Britain: i'm afraid about MOSC. I'm not sure it will survive. Nova's Federation maybe will have some financial problem.

[MrCanada]

I dunno. The only thing I've always hated about the c-verse is all the focus in Europe. I realize Adam is from the UK and ****, but for the most part wrestling has always been a North American, Japan, and Mexico. Why Mexico/Canada dont get more love is beyond me.

[Adam Ryland]

I dunno. The only thing I've always hated about the c-verse is all the focus in Europe. I realize Adam is from the UK and ****, but for the most part wrestling has always been a North American, Japan, and Mexico. Why Mexico/Canada dont get more love is beyond me.

Eh? Are we talking about the same game? :confused:

Europe has only one promotion, and a fairly weak talent pool. The UK only has one "major" promotion, and doesn't have a great talent pool either. How did you go from that to "all the focus" being on Europe? They're both significantly worse than the rest of the game world.

Also, Canada has two national sized promotions and Mexico have as many promotions as they do regions...they're hardly neglected!

[BlueStar]

Eh? Are we talking about the same game? :confused:

Europe has only one promotion, and a fairly weak talent pool. The UK only has one "major" promotion, and doesn't have a great talent pool either. How did you go from that to "all the focus" being on Europe? They're both significantly worse than the rest of the game world.

Also, Canada has two national sized promotions and Mexico have as many promotions as they do regions...they're hardly neglected!

True...though Flemmy Lemming is THE guy!

[Sammartino]

Well,

I'm from Europe and i would like to play a European Fed. Actually I got only one choise.
It will be fun to have small Fed From Europe, as we truly have.

In Italy we got at least 3 Fed, even if they are really small.
If this can help Adam, i can post the link to Italian Fed sites, and i can make a little search in all Europe, just to give you some info. :D

[magichj]

In Canada:

Dan Jr turns on his family and discovers himself and a character he can really use. He turns heel, develops more Mic skills, and owns the NOTBPW Championship!

NOTBPW Buys out 4C leaving only two promotions in Canada. NOTBPW is at the highest end of National while CGC drops to cult.

In the US:

Dave makes a huge power play in a last ditched effort to be top dog. They buy out CZCW and NYPW trying to garner some media attention. They also sign a working agreement with NOTBPW to trade talent back and forth which helps Dave bring in talent while helping NOTBPW get their talent over in the U.S. all they feel they need is a T.V. & PPV deal and they feel they can get back in the black.

In the age of corporate maneuvering SWF tries unsuccessfully to buy out USPW as well as MAW which causes them a lot of embarrassment in the media. This along with the acquisition of Sean McFly and to much less notice Bruce the Giant (after a falling out with Sam) rocket TCW to being the only global fed in the world.

Mexico:

Many of the workers who were with CZCW did not feel they would fit in with the DAVE style of business and jumped ship down to Mexico. OLLIE company snags most of them and becomes a National ranked fed while the others specialize in a more pure form of lucha.

Japan:

With most of the world focused on the shakings in the US market Japan remains steeped in tradition while some of their more popular feds attempt to make in roads into Europe which is becoming a cash cow for those willing to make the effort.

Europe:

I think it'd be cool to set the starting industry and economy to A* in Europe to tempt companies to ramp up their presence there. Add a couple of small feds to the mix and you have an interesting battle ground. Foreign feds with better stars against local talent.

England:

21CW and MOSC (I'm not incredibly familiar with the names of the English feds) become nationalized by the government headed up by a new figure in the Cornellverse. The remaining fed goes underground to escape notice until they get the talent to compete. This new 21MOSC fed is content to solidify their hold on the English territories while looking closely at Europe as a means of bringing in $$$.


Just my thoughts on what would be an interesting setup for '08.

[praguepride]

While interesting, eliminating that many promotions would be a step backwards. As mentioned before, the change from '05 to '08 did not close any promotions, in fact INSPIRE was created out of BHOTWG. Suddenly closing down 3 popular small promotions would mean that in the North America scene, the only small promotion left would be MAW and that would be a terrible shame. Some of us (myself included) really love 4C, and if anything they deserve to rise up a notch or two.

[foolinc]

Eh? Are we talking about the same game? :confused:

Europe has only one promotion, and a fairly weak talent pool. The UK only has one "major" promotion, and doesn't have a great talent pool either. How did you go from that to "all the focus" being on Europe? They're both significantly worse than the rest of the game world.

Also, Canada has two national sized promotions and Mexico have as many promotions as they do regions...they're hardly neglected!
:confused:

Spoiler or mistake? You be the judge!

[magichj]

While interesting, eliminating that many promotions would be a step backwards. As mentioned before, the change from '05 to '08 did not close any promotions, in fact INSPIRE was created out of BHOTWG. Suddenly closing down 3 popular small promotions would mean that in the North America scene, the only small promotion left would be MAW and that would be a terrible shame. Some of us (myself included) really love 4C, and if anything they deserve to rise up a notch or two.

I believe I was only really closing down 2 feds in the U.S. One of which provides a strategic advantage for DAVE as they could increase their influence out west.

As for 4C I like them as well, but I feel a number of the workers there would benefit greatly from the move to NOTBPW (Jacob Jett and Joey Poison especially), and while I know it doesn't work like this in TEW in real life the move would garner a large amount of media attention helping NOTBPW get more over throughout Canada. I'm sure there are a number of CGC guys out there who hate this idea, but I was never a fan of the Eisen's.

Anyway, I just thought this setup would provide for some interesting scenarios for all of the feds in the 'Verse. I agree though that some extra small feds would have to crop up. Personally I'd like to see 1 of the smallest sized feds in each territory in the U.S. or at least 3-4 more just to provide bottom end workers a place to get some experience.

[CubsFan915]

I'd love to see DaVE or USPW make the leap to the next level.

Just so long as this never happens:

-DAVE is hurting. Most of their bigger stars have been signed away, to the point that the Latino Kings are positioned as solid midcarders.

*shudders*

[shamelessposer]

Eh? Are we talking about the same game? :confused:

Come on, Adam, this is the Internet Wrestling Community. You know things like "logic" and "facts" and "Hi I'm the creator of the whole freakin' universe you're talking about" have no place here!

[praguepride]

Come on, Adam, this is the Internet Wrestling Community. You know things like "logic" and "facts" and "Hi I'm the creator of the whole freakin' universe you're talking about" has no place here!

Bah, that's just crazy talk. What's this magical thing called "logic"? Is that like "thinking" or whatever it is you people do nowadays.

[Basmat01]

Australia - 2 Local Fed. I'm really interested about the product they offer.



I would expect Australia to have a small touring promotion and a pretty weak talent pool considering the Australian wrestling scene is pretty weak in real life and I bet Adam will make Australia that way in the C-Verse as we are a "New" region so to speak

[Phantom Stranger]

You know, I'd love to see MOSC get the talent development and popularity increase to start 2008/mid-2008 off with a TV deal.

And they're the UK fed that least interest me - but they're also the guys who survive no matter what. Be nice to see them start prospering.

[juggaloninjalee]

I hope the Cornellverse page is updated with history for Australia and such. Maybe some guys from Australia will cross over into the UK and Europe! Then you could have like 2 really solid workers from Australia with 2 different styles working for promotions in both countries.

[dvdWarrior]

I can't wait to see what's going down with Australia my own self. Should be interesting, to say the least. I'm sure the CornellVerse site will be updated for '08, but I'm anxious to see what it'll be updated with.

:)

[sebsplex]

I can't wait to see what's going down with Australia my own self. Should be interesting, to say the least. I'm sure the CornellVerse site will be updated for '08, but I'm anxious to see what it'll be updated with.

The legend of Kangeroo Mask.

[sheepy]

I'd love to see a couple of celebrities added to the cornellverse. Bringing a celebrity from outside of wrestling is a common trick for SE promotions and one that you can't really do in the game at the moment.

Oh, I'd love to see some of the 21CW get a bit of an overness boost to go with their new tv show.

[praguepride]

Celebrities like Mark Cuban and Tom Cruise, perhaps?


I would greatly love for J.K. Stallings to get back into the fray. He's been in the DB but out of the industry for both '05 and '07. I think it would be interesting for him to come back and hostile takeover TCW so he's back in control. Then Cornell and some other top stars walk out and form their own new promotion similar to what happened w/ INSPIRE and BHOTWG.

[Bolton]

Sorry for bumping this, but I'm going to take a blind guess who the champions of the Big 4 in the American scene will be come 2008...

SWF

SWF World: Eric Eisen (Like I guessed, nothing like a good Jesus push for relatives!)

SWF North American: Marc DuBois (The seeds might have been planted for the biggest ego in wrestling since BS Scott)

SWF Shooting Star: John Greed (I think he might have graduated from RIPW in mid-2007 and got a shock victory for the SS title. And yes, that has been done in shamelessposer's fantastic C-verse Imperfect Present mod)

SWF Tag Team: The Amazing Bumfholes (2)

TCW

TCW World: Tommy Cornell (5) (In his 5th reign, and has traded the belt with Ricky Dale Johnson AGAIN)

TCW International: Chance Fortune (Still rising up the card, and has became Liberty's occasional tag partner)

TCW All-Action: Freddy Hudgins (3) (A cornerstone of the All-Action division in my opinion)

TCW World Tag Team: Adrenaline Rush (They took the money and went to TCW, and got over with the crowds due to a feud with The Machines)

DAVE

DAVE Unifed: Jack Giedroyc (Big Cat Brandon finally got to the top of the DAVE empire, but when he took a big money deal from SWF and filed a restraining order against Nemesis, Jack was booked to get another upset over Brandon)

DAVE Brass Knuckles: Joey Minnesota (To make NYCW regret their decision to stop Minnesota from leaving, DAVE give Minnesota the Brass Knux title)

DAVE Tag Team: The New Wave (4) (The crowds turn rapidly against Tank Bradley, and The New Wave win the titles, so people can watch actual wrestling)

USPW

USPW World: Bruce The Giant (Bruce is still the champion as USPW finds its groundings)

USPW National: Des Davids (Des was brought in because he had a old-school field around him. The fans took to Des and Des got a big push, although he's likely to lose it to a old guy. Maybe Warlord Agony)

USPW World Tag Team: The Forces of America (2)

[takertitan]

guess the champion is a good way to kill time...:



SWF

SWF World: Angry Gilmore-----> best guy on the roster in my eyes. Maybe a heel turn to get him over the hump.

SWF North American: Frederique----->good solid spot for a good worker. His fabulous gimmic with a title = moneu

SWF Shooting Star: Valiant------>SWF released him in my last game and within a month i had him main eventing. The guy is gold.

SWF Tag Team: Death Row-----> Decent workers, good way to get them on the show.

TCW

TCW World: Ric Law----->heel turn, big money draw.

TCW International: Aaron Andrews------> on his way to a world title

TCW All-Action: Aaron ANdrews-------->yeah, thats right, he wins both titles. The guy is too good compaired to the rest of the mid card.

TCW World Tag Team: Young guns. With Aaron holding both singles titles, its a good spot for them.

DAVE

DAVE Unifed: Scout-------->Eddie Peak leaves, new wave takes over the promotion. Scout wins the world title and Guide turns on him. They hold all the gold and hate eachother.

DAVE Brass Knuckles: Guide

DAVE Tag Team: New Wave

USPW

USPW World: Mick Muscles------->Sam shows him how to not suck.

USPW National: Nicky------------>Same as Mick, learns how to show an ounce of charisma

USPW World Tag Team: some washed up team. With the tag division as it is in USPW, it wont matter prob.

[praguepride]

It looks like all the champions were picked based on having the best stats in their league.

I hope we get another Enygma, maybe Enygma goes big overseas. I think it's always interesting to have champions that might not be the best stats on the roster but are still over as can be. I remember in '05 when Enygma had A* popularity in America and looking at his stats going "how in the heck?" but it was fun to try and maintain that popularity even when he didn't truly deserve it.

[shamelessposer]

It looks like all the champions were picked based on having the best stats in their league.

I hope we get another Enygma, maybe Enygma goes big overseas. I think it's always interesting to have champions that might not be the best stats on the roster but are still over as can be. I remember in '05 when Enygma had A* popularity in America and looking at his stats going "how in the heck?" but it was fun to try and maintain that popularity even when he didn't truly deserve it.

Besides that, the reason a lot of wrestlers don't have big long title runs is because they don't need them. Enygma is a mediocre performer and needs to be put into high profile matches to try and hide that fact. Christian Faith or Sam Keith, even ignoring their age issues, are each over enough in their own way that it doesn't hurt either man's legacy to retire without another title reign.

[James Casey]

I figure this could do with a bump...

Having just finished a 7 1/2 year game with MAW on 07, I'm hoping to see some old/new faces included in the game. Assuming the game starts in January 2008 (and it may go later) than the liks of the XDW boys, Casey Valentine, Ash Campbell, Davis Wayne Newton, Alicia Strong and Cameron Vessey ought to all be in the game.

But how about one of my favourites: Josh Jones? The uncharismatic Canuck may have been set for a 2012 debut in the current game, but I'd love to have him ready to go in the new game - he could have gone full-time at 20 instead of waiting until he was 24.

And what about El Heroe Mexicano (October 2010) and Amazing Fire Fly (April 2010)? How will I survive without them? They'd be about 18 by this time - easily time for them to debut and sign written deals with MAW in readiness for me to come in and take over ;)

Anyone else have any favourite future workers they're going to struggle to do without when they reboot their careers this week?

[Phantom Stranger]

Anyone else have any favourite future workers they're going to struggle to do without when they reboot their careers this week?

Hugh de Aske.

I'm rebuilding my save and continuing, but he just left, and I've done a lot with him over the years.

[Thriller]

Someone mentioned the deathmatch scene in Japan becoming bigger, that'd be pretty nifty I think.

[Remianen]

I figure this could do with a bump...

Having just finished a 7 1/2 year game with MAW on 07, I'm hoping to see some old/new faces included in the game. Assuming the game starts in January 2008 (and it may go later) than the liks of the XDW boys, Casey Valentine, Ash Campbell, Davis Wayne Newton, Alicia Strong and Cameron Vessey ought to all be in the game.

They are. But where Alicia winds up, it'll blow your mind (or maybe it won't :p). When you get a hold of the demo, look for her in the workers section and check her contract(s). :)

But how about one of my favourites: Josh Jones? The uncharismatic Canuck may have been set for a 2012 debut in the current game, but I'd love to have him ready to go in the new game - he could have gone full-time at 20 instead of waiting until he was 24.

And what about El Heroe Mexicano (October 2010) and Amazing Fire Fly (April 2010)? How will I survive without them? They'd be about 18 by this time - easily time for them to debut and sign written deals with MAW in readiness for me to come in and take over ;)

Anyone else have any favourite future workers they're going to struggle to do without when they reboot their careers this week?

What I did in my personal C-Verse mod is made all of my favorite new workers debut earlier, sometimes at the minimum working age. So people like Fuyuko Higa, Eri Sato, Velvet Suarez, Gemmei Oonishi, Sally Anne Christensen, and the like, all debut between January and August of 2008 (my DB's start date is September). Also, since I loved the National Battle, I made Queens of American Wrestling a National promotion so we start the game going head to head with SWF and TCW. We get our asses kicked for the first 3-4 months (coming in third all the time) until we find our stride and really lay it on the big two, just before NOTBPW enter the picture.

It was the best compromise I could make since I can't bring my 07 save (which was in 2022 with us at Global) over to 08.

[Jaded]

They are. But where Alicia winds up, it'll blow your mind (or maybe it won't :p). When you get a hold of the demo, look for her in the workers section and check her contract(s). :)


This makes me think BSC, for some reason. Surely not?!

[Ping von Erich]

This makes me think BSC, for some reason. Surely not?!

Sam would not be pleased..

[James Casey]

SWF jumps out at me there - Sam would definitely not be pleased...

[Greg2511]

ive come into this fairly late, but i agree with all the speculation about the USPW womens division....and USPW growing in size...

it makes me very very sad but i do think DaVE will fall in size once more, though the fanboy in me is hoping for a growth spurt after finding a new network.

Call me crazy but I want 21CW to have become so big in England and Europe, that tey are actually looking to start competing on an international level....maybe mid to high national status with some massively over stars in the region.

As for Australia, itd be great to see Bruce the Giant leave the states to inject some live into the australian scene, alternatively adam could do some work and give it an entire back history that was just somehow forgotten in 07 (as is in real life)....

or make it a hotbed for garbage hardcore ultra violent deathmatch wrestling, as there is a hole in the market in the cornellverse

[Greg2511]

oops double post, sorry

[Jennie Bomb]

If the game reflects the way the industry has gone, I'd say DAVE falling or even going out of business is a good possibility - especially since the probably continued growth of USPW will make it even harder for a niche promotion like DAVE to compete.