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mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 11:44 AM
[Borrowed from Star Wars Mafia, new stuff bolded]

Do not post until the write up has been posted.

All night PM's should be sent to me. If you have anything to send during the day, try both me and TheEdgeofReason.

Everyone, returning players included, please read this post and keep it in mind throughout the course of the game!



HOW TO PLAY:

- All of you will be PM’d a role and your alignment. This game is based on the prototype "Warring Families" format I devised. Nothing is black and white in this game. There are more factions in this game than any other, and it isn't simply town vs. mafia. Take advantage of the ability of your group to speak outside the thread, if you should have it!

- Roleclaiming in this game is strongly discouraged! Asking someone for their alignment is also discouraged. Claiming and putting pressure on claims is not banned, but because of the fact that you don't know who's with you or against you, doing so can kill you!

- The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day, and all players post in the thread, deciding who to kill off. Lynching is going to be interesting in this game with so many different interests involved. Keep in mind that in lynching, the enemy of your enemy may be your friend, but maybe not!

- All voting is to occur within the thread, but many of you have the ability to speak outside of it. Players may discuss who they think are threats. To vote, post Vote: Username (in bold, so it’s easier to count). You can also change your vote, by typing Change Vote: Username. You can also choose to vote for No Lynching. You must post in the thread for your vote to be counted. You can also abstain from voting, which means I just do not include you in the number crunching.

- Elimination occurs after a time limit that will be adjusted depending on the situation, mainly for my benefit (See the posted time that the phase will end to make sure), or whenever a person obtains more than 50% of the vote. In case of a tie, the latest vote will be discounted, until the tie is broken. Once a person dies, I will reveal their alignment and role.

- Night falls after somebody is executed. Abilities are used during this time. To use an ability, PM me, and I’ll PM you the outcome of the ability. If it is something serious like somebody getting killed, I will update it in the thread. If possible though, try to PM me what you want to do as soon after night falls as possible to keep things moving along at a quick pace.

- Night ends once I post who gets killed, and the cycle repeats itself.


RULES:

- I know it’s the Dog Pound, but try not to postwhore in the thread anyway. Feel free to trash talk, accuse, call out other players if you want, but if you’re going to vote, at least state some kind of reason as to why you’re doing so. You are PROHIBITED from risking anything outside of the thread on your alignment, and are PROHIBITED from swearing on any religious deities, or family members, that you are this or that. If anyone gets out of hand or disruptive, they will be warned, then mod-killed if they don't stop. Keep in mind: It's a game!

- Though I can’t force you to post, I’d love to see active participation. I would advise everyone try to check in with this game at least once a day. Things move fast and you can fall behind pretty easily. I can't put limits in any way on posting, but keep in mind that some players aren't on as much. Let me repeat myself: Only post if you've got something to say!

- Once you are dead, you stay dead, and may not participate until the game is over. This includes notes found on your corpse, cryptic messages from the dead, etc, etc. You may also not advise the remaining players on what to do

– besides, to prevent cheating, I will not provide the dead with any additional information than they would get if they were still alive. Of course, I’m willing to listen to your theories as to what’s going on. Likewise, I'd appreciate if those not taking part try not help those playing, though general comments on how things are going would be welcomed in the Sign Up Thread.

- Unless your role PM specifically states otherwise, all players may not discuss game plan, your role, or alignment outside the thread. Of course, I can’t enforce this, but I believe secretly revealing information amongst each other would spoil the game, so try not to do it.

- Players are not allowed to edit their posts in this thread at all, as it allows for those who make mistakes to remove all of the evidence without any effort. Since I can't enforce this, I strongly encourage town aligned players to scrutinize any posts they notice that have been edited.

-Players are not allowed to cut and paste anything straight from the Role PM except the Role. No cutting and pasting of the body of the PM. Posting your role title is potentially deadly in this game, though!

I reserve the right to modkill if I find out that any of these rules have been broken. Please remember that you are not the only one playing this game, so don't ruin it for the other 34!

Also, should you have any questions about your role, alignment, or anything else game-related, feel free to PM me. I want this game to go as smooth as possible.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 11:45 AM
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Warring Families
*****

Another year, another random animated gathering...

Once again, the cartoons of the world have converged upon the Toonited Nations within the great country of Cartoonia for the Yearly Organizational Uniting of Toons Uniting Because they Exist (Y.O.U.T.U.B.E.).

This convention has delegates from every cartoon entity arriving from every corner of the world to discuss matters that affect the universe.

Unfortunately, this year, the gathering wouldn't go quite as well...

*****

It was noon. The giant shiny clocktower at the center of the delegation village rang out: "HEY! EVERYBODY! IT'S NOON!!!!"

On the street, villains, heroes, and characters of all shapes, sizes, and colors wandered from place to place.

Then, all of a sudden, there was a whistling. It was quite loud...

"What's that noise?"

"I believe that's a whistle"

"Thanks... I mean where's it co..."

SPLAT

Everyone looked to the center of the square.

Kenny, of South Park, had been pushed from the clock tower. He was squahed into a brownish mass flatened on the ground.

Oh my god! They killed Kenny!

That's when chaos broke out... Everyone was running around, screaming, trying to find their fellow delegates, and trying to get out of town. Many escaped, including the entire South Park delegation, but a few handfuls of characters stayed around.

Some felt something was wrong and wanted to help. Some wanted to take the moment to seize control of the Toonited Nations. Some just couldn't catch the right bus...

They all knew that Kenny wasn't the last victim...

*****

WINNERS: Moe Hunter

ACTIVE PLAYERS LIST (9):
3. masterded
18. Crychon
22. trypio
27. BlueStar
31. djthefunkchris
33. cappyboy
34. Minister Whitey
35. The Shape

GRAVEYARD:

00. mjdgoldeneye is dead. He was Kenny, South Park aligned Muffled Immortal
1. Lostrelms is dead. He was Megatron, Doombringers aligned Transforming Decepticon
32. Jim Force has fled. He was Boris, Cold Warriors aligned Short Villain of Moose and Squirrel
25. Arrows is dead. He was Rocko, Nicktoons Alliance aligned Urban Wallaby
19. Sprinklefurball is dead. He was Shredder, Doombringers aligned Blade Laced Samurai
14. The Aussie is dead. He was Wile E Coyote, Da Wabbit Hunters aligned Loyal ACME Buyer
6. Self is dead... Or is he? He was Snidely Whiplash, Cold Warriors aligned Mustachioed Bad-Guy
17. rdsinclair is dead. She was Invader Zim, Irken Invaders aligned Short and Delusional Alien
29. Thomnipotent is dead. He was Tweety Bird, Bugs’ Best aligned Little Canary
26. ya_its_me is dead. He was Penny, Gadget aligned Intelligent Niece
4. Slim Jim is dead. He was Montgomery Burns, Really Evil Inc. aligned Tyrannical Billionaire
7. Derek_B is dead. He was Arnold, Nicktoons Alliance aligned New York Kid
21. Antithesis was fried. He was GIR, Irken Invaders aligned “Advanced” Robot
28. Clarity is dead He was Stewart Gilligan Griffin, Really Evil Inc. aligned Devil Child
5. I Effin Rule is dead. He was Spongebob Squarepants, Nicktoons Alliance aligned Porous Cube
20. Wallbanger is dead. He was Peter Griffin, The Griffins aligned Family Guy
37. THEDEMONSEED is dead. He was Bart Simpson, Simpsons aligned Mischievous Child
8. supermareo is dead. He was Chris Griffin, The Griffins aligned Fat Teenager
11. jamck is dead. He was Sylvester the Cat, Da Wabbit Hunters aligned Bird-icidal Feline
24. nZane is dead. He was Sheldon J. Plankton, Really Evil Inc. aligned College Educated Invertebrate
15. Ghetto Anthony is dead... Kinda... He was Sideshow Bob, Individually aligned Crazy Villain of Springfield
13. Gonvick has escaped. He was Natasha, Cold Warriors aligned Partner of Boris
16. Imarevenant is dead. He was Dib, Nicktoons Alliance aligned Paranoid Crazy Kid
10. James Casey is dead. He was Cobra Commander, Doombringers aligned Commander of Cobra
9. BIGJOSH is dead. He was Lois Griffin, The Griffins aligned Wife, Mother, and Piano Teacher
30. ShadowedFlames is dead. He was Daffy Duck, Individually aligned Looney Black Duck
12. NickC13573 is dead. He was The Turtles, TMNT aligned Reptilian Quartet
23. Panix04 is dead. He was Skeletor, Doombringers aligned Skull Faced Scourge of the 80’s
2. MidnightNick is dead. He was Elmer Fudd, Da Wabbit Hunters aligned Looney Antagonist.

CNN (Cartoon News Network)

Day Phase 1 - Post 928 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=353506&postcount=928)
Night Phase 1 - Post 1100 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=354070&postcount=1100)
Day Phase 2 - Post 2162 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=355759&postcount=2162)
Night Phase 2 - Post 2362 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=356287&postcount=2362)
Day Phase 3 - Post 2908 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=357172&postcount=2908)
Night Phase 3 - Post 3070 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=357685&postcount=3070)
Day Phase 4 - Post 3427 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=358080&postcount=3427)
Night Phase 4 - Post 3539 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=358406&postcount=3539)
Day Phase 5 - Post 4082 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=359319&postcount=4082)
Night Phase 5 - Post 4162 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=359738&postcount=4162)
Day Phase 6 - Post 4371 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=360028&postcount=4371)
Night Phase 6 - Post 4424 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=360547&postcount=4424)
Day Phase 7 - Post 4533 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=360871&postcount=4533)
Night Phase 7 - Post 4596 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=361229&postcount=4596)
Day Phase 8 - ???
Night Phase 8 - Post 4776 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=361735&postcount=4776)
Day Phase 9 - Post 4827 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=361891&postcount=4827)
Night Phase 9 - Post 4844 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=361973&postcount=4844)

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 03:44 PM
Role Received

Oh, and First!

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 03:44 PM
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

If you didn't receive a PM, or have any questions, PM me. TEoR hasn't been sent the finished roles and stuff, so he's not reliable at the moment.

It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

The current phase is going to be 72 hours long so everyone can get situated. You may end the phases early with a lynch or a vote for no lynch though!

supermareo
01-06-2008, 03:47 PM
let the fun begin

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 03:47 PM
Hey MJ


AHAHAHAHA! :p

Slim Jim
01-06-2008, 03:49 PM
That's when chaos broke out... Everyone was running around, screaming, trying to find their fellow delegates, and trying to get out of town. Many escaped, including the entire South Park delegation, but a few handfuls of characters stayed around.

I'm assuming that means that there aren't any other South Park characters in the game?

trypio
01-06-2008, 03:50 PM
I'm assuming that means that there aren't any other South Park characters in the game?

I think so. Too bad... Cartman would own every other toon in this game...

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 03:50 PM
Whats with the whistle?

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 03:51 PM
I'm assuming that means that there aren't any other South Park characters in the game?

seems so!

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 03:51 PM
I think so. Too bad... Cartman would own every other toon in this game...

Perhaps that's why MJD decided to leave him out, he must have thought the a$$ satellite would be far too powerful

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Whats with the whistle?

think slide whistle.. cartoons...

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew *Splat!*

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Whats with the whistle?

Basic cartoon sound effect for things moving really fast since Kenny was falling from a high up place maybe?

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 03:53 PM
think slide whistle.. cartoons...

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew *Splat!*

That makes sense.

I was thinking train whistle for some reason.


Wiley Coyote?

supermareo
01-06-2008, 03:54 PM
That makes sense.

I was thinking train whistle for some reason.


Wiley Coyote?
usualy coyote's on the reciving end of the Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee SPLAT! though not the instigator. lol

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 03:55 PM
Who would kill Kenny? The bastards!

The toons from Family Guy maybe?

supermareo
01-06-2008, 03:57 PM
Who would kill Kenny? The bastards!

The toons from Family Guy maybe?

cant say im too familiar with the family guy cartoon why would they kill kenny?

masterded
01-06-2008, 03:57 PM
So any ideas how we should start day 1?

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 03:58 PM
Hey MJ


AHAHAHAHA! :p

:D


Good luck everyone, btw!

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 03:59 PM
cant say im too familiar with the family guy cartoon why would they kill kenny?

While the two cartoons both had episodes where they were making fun of each other. South Park really went after Family Guy though

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:00 PM
cant say im too familiar with the family guy cartoon why would they kill kenny?

The guys who make South Park have been public about their hatred for the Family guy cartoon, even made some episodes mocking that show. I think those shows were called..

Cartoon Wars.

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:00 PM
So any ideas how we should start day 1?

well from studying the other games on here a no lynch generally seems to be the way the first day goes, im personally not a fan of that however as it dosent use the towns biggest weapon against the mafia which is the lynch, asa even lynching a townie whilst not ideal may help provide some information

ya_its_me
01-06-2008, 04:00 PM
Family Guy went after South Park? What episode? (Sorry, haven't been watching any recent FG episodes.)

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:02 PM
While the two cartoons both had episodes where they were making fun of each other. South Park really went after Family Guy though

The guys who make South Park have been public about their hatred for the Family guy cartoon, even made some episodes mocking that show. I think those shows were called..

Cartoon Wars.

something to bare in mind then, but then again with the south park characters appearing to have fled maybe not that important

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 04:03 PM
Family Guy went after South Park? What episode? (Sorry, haven't been watching any recent FG episodes.)

Not sure, my cousin watches Family Guy, not me anymore, thought he said the two were fighting, maybe he meant just the South Park ones though. Those I did see, and thought they were funny as hell though.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:04 PM
Actually, a No Lynch often hinders though. One the beginning day phase we townies don't have a good record but if soomeone acts suspicious then they'll generally get blasted for making an amatuer mistake or for pm-ing.


Oh yes and before I forget:

Wiley Coyote would only be the instigator because he would have been the one that was killed.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:05 PM
Oh yes and before I forget:

Wiley Coyote would only be the instigator because he would be the one that was killed.

Fixed it. Grammar my old foe, you strike again

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:05 PM
Here are few questions. What do we want to get from this phase? What are willing to sacrifice to get that? And is what we are trying to get a reasonable expectation?

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:06 PM
Not sure, my cousin watches Family Guy, not me anymore, thought he said the two were fighting, maybe he meant just the South Park ones though. Those I did see, and thought they were funny as hell though.

that sounds more likely to me, south park tends to take the piss out of everything though

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:08 PM
Actually, a No Lynch often hinders though. One the beginning day phase we townies don't have a good record but if soomeone acts suspicious then they'll generally get blasted for making an amatuer mistake or for pm-ing.


Oh yes and before I forget:

Wiley Coyote would only be the instigator because he would have been the one that was killed.

ACME sure had defective products. I bet you anything that they were the makers of Elmer Fudd's and Yosemite Sam's guns. Always firing at them, not the target.

ya_its_me
01-06-2008, 04:08 PM
Oh wait a minute, the Simpsons took a shot at South Park, I think.

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:09 PM
Here are few questions. What do we want to get from this phase? What are willing to sacrifice to get that? And is what we are trying to get a reasonable expectation?

well preferable id like to have a mafia guy swinging by the end of the phase, id be willing to sacrifice even myself to get that if neccessary, is that a reasonable expectation, probably not. lol

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:09 PM
The problem with a band wagon lynch, as I felt in the Star Wars game is... the odds are (number wise) if we just pick a person at random, that person will likely be town alligned. So forcing a claim from a random person may expose an important townie role from scum, and get the town no closer to important info.

Besides, just like in SW game, the mod is warning us to refrain from role claiming.

Now of course, if one of you does or says something suspicious, then'd I'd hope people would vote on that eprson until they at least explain themselves. But just picking a name at random to vote on. I don't see how'd that help the town.

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:09 PM
Here are few questions. What do we want to get from this phase? What are willing to sacrifice to get that? And is what we are trying to get a reasonable expectation?

Well. This is far more then Townie vs. Mafia, with many subsections. Even if lynch a member of a group.. it doesn't automatically mean we know it all. I'm going to take a guess of there being at least 7 groups.

No more then 12?

So that'd fit in 3 people a group at most.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Here are few questions. What do we want to get from this phase? What are willing to sacrifice to get that? And is what we are trying to get a reasonable expectation?
Everyone knows that we either remove someone that could potentially hamper us or we go for whoever it is that's suspicious.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Well. This is far more then Townie vs. Mafia, with many subsections. Even if lynch a member of a group.. it doesn't automatically mean we know it all. I'm going to take a guess of there being at least 7 groups.

No more then 12?

So that'd fit in 3 people a group at most.

So you are in a group?

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 04:12 PM
Oh wait a minute, the Simpsons took a shot at South Park, I think.

I'm sure there are many we could reason would take a shot at South Park, but I'm guessing the writeup was just MJD's way of getting to kill Kenny and add a cartoon staple in the game.

Another thought. Judge Doom from Roger Rabbit has to be some kind of serial killer doesn't he. lol, I don't want to get dipped :eek:

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Well. This is far more then Townie vs. Mafia, with many subsections. Even if lynch a member of a group.. it doesn't automatically mean we know it all. I'm going to take a guess of there being at least 7 groups.

No more then 12?

So that'd fit in 3 people a group at most.

hmm im not so sure even for a complex game such as mjd's promesisng here 7 groups sounds a little bit high for my liking never mind 12 i could of course be compleatly wrong and if so this is going to be one very interesting game to say the least

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Well I have a question that may prove to be a good line of inquiry for us Good types!

Is everyone here a cartoon... or something else?

Slim Jim
01-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Didn't MJD say somewhere that there were 8+ groups?

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:14 PM
So you are in a group?

Nope. I'm town-aligned. I'm just guessing about groups solely for the fact of warring families. I mean, I highly doubt it's 12 groups. (Town is included in groups.)

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Well I have a question that may prove to be a good line of inquiry for us Good types!

Is everyone here a cartoon... or something else?
well im a cartoon dunno about anybody else

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:16 PM
Didn't MJD say somewhere that there were 8+ groups?

I seem to recall him saying something like that somewhere. If not in the sign up thread then in another Mafia related thread. Maybe way back in DOTT

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:16 PM
well im a cartoon dunno about anybody else

I am as well SM.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:17 PM
Nope. I'm town-aligned. I'm just guessing about groups solely for the fact of warring families. I mean, I highly doubt it's 12 groups. (Town is included in groups.)

Okay I understand what you are saying.

Also I am also a cartoon. (I think we all are)

Slim Jim
01-06-2008, 04:17 PM
Warring Families, in essence is the same as any mafia game. However, nearly every player is the member of some sort of group that can communicate or otherwise work together. (Masons, Mafia, Cults, etc...) Also, objectives aren't as simple as 1 uninformed majority vs. 1 informed minority with a few individuals and maybe a second or third group thrown in. They'll be 8+ factions, and probably at least half as many different win conditions and goals that bridge alliances and roles and much more! Factions themselves can vary from 2 to X amount of players, and there's no rule against any single entities!

Ta-da!

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:18 PM
Okay I understand what you are saying.

Also I am also a cartoon. (I think we all are)

I'd imagine we'd all be... unless the Mafia is like. The real life characters from like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, or an Animator and that kinda shtick.

Jim Force
01-06-2008, 04:18 PM
well preferable id like to have a mafia guy swinging by the end of the phase, id be willing to sacrifice even myself to get that if necessary, is that a reasonable expectation, probably not. lol

Are you suggesting that by sacrificing yourself we will be able to lynch a mafia member? So we lynch you and we lynch a mafia character?!?!

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Are you suggesting that by sacrificing yourself we will be able to lynch a mafia member? So we lynch you and we lynch a mafia character?!?!

I hadn't picked up on that Force. If it were anyone else, I'd say it was a Cappy slip and go for a lynch, but I'm pretty sure Mareo is new.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:19 PM
I hadn't picked up on that Force. If it were anyone else, I'd say it was a Cappy slip and go for a lynch, but I'm pretty sure Mareo is new.

He survived the last game.

ya_its_me
01-06-2008, 04:20 PM
I hadn't picked up on that Force. If it were anyone else, I'd say it was a Cappy slip and go for a lynch, but I'm pretty sure Mareo is new.

Well yeah, he's got what, 5-6 posts?

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:20 PM
I also think that some groups are town aligned but independent. Like LAW from C-Verse mafia 2.0 or a mason group.
It's just absurd that there could be so many groups.

Derek B
01-06-2008, 04:20 PM
It's a cartoon mafia, I believe we are all likely to be cartoons. Also, it's a warring families game meaning that there are likely to be a strong number of factions in this game. Assuming that the town is basically another one of them, lynching on the first day in this game seems that it is more likely than not going to result in the death of someone who ISN'T town. And with that...

VOTE: Antithesis

nZane
01-06-2008, 04:21 PM
I hadn't picked up on that Force. If it were anyone else, I'd say it was a Cappy slip and go for a lynch, but I'm pretty sure Mareo is new.Wasn't he a replacement in the Star Wars game? So he's had some experience around here...

Still, it seems like too obvious of a slip to me. I think he was just trying to be helpful. Or maybe he was trying too hard to be helpful.

Grrr.... my head already hurts.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:21 PM
Well yeah, he's got what, 5-6 posts?
You've only got 50

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:21 PM
He survived the last game.

I meant in terms of playing, not as in only the first game.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:22 PM
It's a cartoon mafia, I believe we are all likely to be cartoons. Also, it's a warring families game meaning that there are likely to be a strong number of factions in this game. Assuming that the town is basically another one of them, lynching on the first day in this game seems that it is more likely than not going to result in the death of someone who ISN'T town. And with that...

VOTE: Antithesis

Oh hell, it begins again!

:hides under the bed:

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:23 PM
It's a cartoon mafia, I believe we are all likely to be cartoons. Also, it's a warring families game meaning that there are likely to be a strong number of factions in this game. Assuming that the town is basically another one of them, lynching on the first day in this game seems that it is more likely than not going to result in the death of someone who ISN'T town. And with that...

VOTE: Antithesis
I must agree with you. The title is Cartoon Chaos so its pretty obvious that most characters will be cartoon characters. It can't be a new player slip either because he has played multiple games before


Vote: Antithesis

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:24 PM
Are you suggesting that by sacrificing yourself we will be able to lynch a mafia member? So we lynch you and we lynch a mafia character?!?!

woah not so fast there horsie, no im not suggesting that, simply that say somebody roleclamed my role id speak up knowing that person wasnt and take the lynch if people didnt belive me knowing that you'll be able to lynch the other guy next time and get a mafia

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:24 PM
I meant in terms of playing, not as in only the first game.

Still he was good enough to live and win in his first game. Though I think to lynch him for what he said would be dumb. He was just answering my question. I see nothing wrong with his statement.

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm going against the grain with this.

Vote: supermareo

If he's one of the ones who pulled that miracle win off last game, he knows what he's doing then.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:26 PM
I'm going against the grain with this.

Vote: supermareo

If he's one of the ones who pulled that miracle win off last game, he knows what he's doing then.

So you wouldn't sacrafice your self if it would lead to a mafia member being lynched?

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 04:26 PM
Okay guys just about up to date but gotta go eat. Will try to be more useful when I return.

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:27 PM
I'm going against the grain with this.

Vote: supermareo

If he's one of the ones who pulled that miracle win off last game, he knows what he's doing then.

hey i only joined that game in the middle of it and only survived because i roll clamed early and was no threat to anyone.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:27 PM
It's a cartoon mafia, I believe we are all likely to be cartoons. Also, it's a warring families game meaning that there are likely to be a strong number of factions in this game. Assuming that the town is basically another one of them, lynching on the first day in this game seems that it is more likely than not going to result in the death of someone who ISN'T town. And with that...

VOTE: Antithesis

BTW how do you know, absolutely, that the game is X or Y?

Not even 30 minutes in the game and you are ready to lynch someone while insisting that the game has to be how you imagine it to be. Considering how strong of a player you are, I find this line of reasoning, from you, to be highly suspect.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:28 PM
hey i only joined that game in the middle of it and only survived because i roll clamed early and was no threat to anyone.

Why do you want us to underestamate you?

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:29 PM
So you wouldn't sacrafice your self if it would lead to a mafia member being lynched?

Considering I'm town-aligned, if I sacrificed myself. That would move whichever faction's win requirements are outnumber the Town, forward towards victory, and I'm near positive... that wouldn't benefit anyone but that group/groups. So... I guess I do see the slight slip and I'm just being overzealous.

Change Vote: No Vote

trypio
01-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Oh wait a minute, the Simpsons took a shot at South Park, I think.

Not that I know. South Park mocked the Simpsons though. In the same episode they took a shot at family guy. Bart wanted to destroy family guy as well, just like Cartman wanted. But Cartman says he's way more of a badass than Bart. They even made Bart admit it. :D

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:30 PM
Why do you want us to underestamate you?

never said that, but judge me off this game not the last thats all im saying

ya_its_me
01-06-2008, 04:35 PM
Not that I know. South Park mocked the Simpsons though. In the same episode they took a shot at family guy. Bart wanted to destroy family guy as well, just like Cartman wanted. But Cartman says he's way more of a badass than Bart. They even made Bart admit it. :D

I'm pretty sure that Simpsons did, I remember Bart and Milhouse were watching an episode for about 30 seconds until Cartman shows up says a profanity then Marge tells them to turn that garbage off. It went something along the lines of that.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 04:36 PM
It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

Votes:

Antithesis: 2 (derek_b, The Aussie)


Almost forgot I was mod for a minute! (After working on this for HOURS today... :rolleyes: )

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:38 PM
Yeah all three shows take snipes at each other, only South Park based 2 episodes around Trashing Family Guy. And unlike the rest who say they respect the other creators, the guys behond South Park have been public about how much they truly dislike Family Guy.

Anyway its just something i read about that occurred to me when i saw Kenny was dead. probabaly has nothing to do with the game.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:40 PM
Derek, Aussie you guys gonna lynch and run or do you want to give a real reason for voting for me?

Iasked if there was anyone in the game taht wasn't a cartoon and suddenly you two vote for me. Why is that? Hmm?

Derek B
01-06-2008, 04:41 PM
BTW how do you know, absolutely, that the game is X or Y?

Not even 30 minutes in the game and you are ready to lynch someone while insisting that the game has to be how you imagine it to be. Considering how strong of a player you are, I find this line of reasoning, from you, to be highly suspect.

I used my eerie powers of deduction.

Step 1: This game is called "Cartoon Chaos Warring Families".
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

The game wouldn't be very warlike or even vaguely different from previous games if there were any less than 3 factions, presumably more. Oh... and I also read the post saying there were likely to be 8+ factions. Even assuming each of those factions only has 2 people in it, that's 16 of the 35 players accounted for already.

So placing a vote on anyone could lead to a lynch of a bad guy. So... I have. Normally I'd vote for a no lynch on Day 1, but not in this style of game.

Oh, and..... :cool: So you can all be paranoid again. I'm gonna die on night 1 anyway, might as well cause some trouble before I do.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 04:43 PM
Oh well. This should be fun. Already got one to keep an eye on.:D

Derek B
01-06-2008, 04:43 PM
As for Aussie, he seems to have entirely misread what was going on before my post. He's just jumping on my bandwagon. And I'm pleased cos I got to make the first vote. Never done that before.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:43 PM
I used my eerie powers of deduction.

Step 1: This game is called "Cartoon Chaos Warring Families".
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

The game wouldn't be very warlike or even vaguely different from previous games if there were any less than 3 factions, presumably more. Oh... and I also read the post saying there were likely to be 8+ factions. Even assuming each of those factions only has 2 people in it, that's 16 of the 35 players accounted for already.

So placing a vote on anyone could lead to a lynch of a bad guy. So... I have. Normally I'd vote for a no lynch on Day 1, but not in this style of game.

Oh, and..... :cool: So you can all be paranoid again. I'm gonna die on night 1 anyway, might as well cause some trouble before I do.


I will go along with you if you answer two question.

1.Not counting the Town do you think all groups are bad?

2.Are you in a group (not counting the town)?

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:44 PM
I used my eerie powers of deduction.

Step 1: This game is called "Cartoon Chaos Warring Families".
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

The game wouldn't be very warlike or even vaguely different from previous games if there were any less than 3 factions, presumably more. Oh... and I also read the post saying there were likely to be 8+ factions. Even assuming each of those factions only has 2 people in it, that's 16 of the 35 players accounted for already.

So placing a vote on anyone could lead to a lynch of a bad guy. So... I have. Normally I'd vote for a no lynch on Day 1, but not in this style of game.

Oh, and..... :cool: So you can all be paranoid again. I'm gonna die on night 1 anyway, might as well cause some trouble before I do.


So considering the importance you place on factionalism, from the voting I can assume Aussie is alligned with you?

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 04:44 PM
I used my eerie powers of deduction.

Step 1: This game is called "Cartoon Chaos Warring Families".
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.



You win! :D

or... :cool:

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 04:45 PM
Vote: Derek_B

i know how kaniving he can be first hand! good player, must die now!

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 04:45 PM
See Outlaw, I told you I could this!!!

No hands even!

gonvick
01-06-2008, 04:46 PM
The problem with a band wagon lynch, as I felt in the Star Wars game is... the odds are (number wise) if we just pick a person at random, that person will likely be town alligned. So forcing a claim from a random person may expose an important townie role from scum, and get the town no closer to important info.

Besides, just like in SW game, the mod is warning us to refrain from role claiming.

Now of course, if one of you does or says something suspicious, then'd I'd hope people would vote on that eprson until they at least explain themselves. But just picking a name at random to vote on. I don't see how'd that help the town.

I pretty much agree with this. At least in a standard game. I don't have this one nearly figured out well enough to say with confidence what the best day one strategy is.

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 04:47 PM
Vote: Derek_B

i know how kaniving he can be first hand! good player, must die now!

Interesting strategy there. The exact strategy I'd use if I were mafia or a serial killer!

Not one I'd take if I were pro-town though.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 04:48 PM
Interesting strategy there. The exact strategy I'd use if I were mafia or a serial killer!

Not one I'd take if I were pro-town though.

I told him first chance i got after hi sperformance in VG mafia i was goign to vote for him!

And i took it... Problem?

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:48 PM
Interesting strategy there. The exact strategy I'd use if I were mafia or a serial killer!

Not one I'd take if I were pro-town though.

And his notes are impeccable. Even when he was Mafia Don, he had a vast note list.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 04:49 PM
I told him first chance i got after his performance in VG mafia i was goign to vote for him!

And i took it... Problem?

Fixed crappy spelling and poor poor proofreading...

supermareo
01-06-2008, 04:52 PM
I pretty much agree with this. At least in a standard game. I don't have this one nearly figured out well enough to say with confidence what the best day one strategy is.

it is difficult we really dont want to lynch a townie if we can help it especially a townie with good powers however with a no lynch we
1) dont have a chance of hitting a mafia even by luck
2) have no vote information to go on
3) have no death information to help us figure out how the game maybe set up
having said that though im in favour of a lynch id rather it not be just a plain old pick a ball out of a hat random lynch i rather have at least some logic behind it, hence why im holding off on voting for now

Arrows
01-06-2008, 04:53 PM
I will go along with you if you answer two question.

1.Not counting the Town do you think all groups are bad?

2.Are you in a group (not counting the town)?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I think I can give you an answer.

Not all groups other than town, are bad. Happen to know that one for a fact.

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:54 PM
I know this wasn't directed at me, but I think I can give you an answer.

Not all groups other than town, are bad. Happen to know that one for a fact.

So there's no Jedi/LAW group in this game Arrows?

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 04:55 PM
I know this wasn't directed at me, but I think I can give you an answer.

Not all groups other than town, are bad. Happen to know that one for a fact.

Makes me wonder something, what would most groups win conditions be?

I figure we will have the generic "all threats to the town eliminated"

then perhaps...? Thoughts?

Arrows
01-06-2008, 04:55 PM
I said not all others are bad, meaning yes, there are JedCon/LAW types involved.

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 04:56 PM
So there's no Jedi/LAW group in this game Arrows?

I misread your post. I skimmed and didn't see the not.

Nevermind what I said

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Derek, Aussie you guys gonna lynch and run or do you want to give a real reason for voting for me?

Iasked if there was anyone in the game taht wasn't a cartoon and suddenly you two vote for me. Why is that? Hmm?
There is relaly only one non-cartoon character that would logically make it in. The villian from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

I find it odd that you would ask if any of us weren't cartoon characters unless you were the guy whose name escpaes me.


... Unless of course, anime characters have made it in than I could understand your question.


Change Vote: No Vote

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 04:57 PM
I told him first chance i got after hi sperformance in VG mafia i was goign to vote for him!

And i took it... Problem?

Wasn't talking so much about who you were voting for but the reasoning:

good player, must die now!

Just an odd reason to vote.

masterded
01-06-2008, 04:58 PM
I know this wasn't directed at me, but I think I can give you an answer.

Not all groups other than town, are bad. Happen to know that one for a fact.

Without hinting at who you are. Does your group have obvious villians that could be in the game?

Makes me wonder something, what would most groups win conditions be?

I figure we will have the generic "all threats to the town eliminated"

then perhaps...? Thoughts?

If his answer is yes I ahve some idea of what some of them could be.

Crychon
01-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Alright! Another game, time to discuss the thing I've found most interesting thus far:

Vote: Derek_B

i know how kaniving he can be first hand! good player, must die now!

This sounds rather bloodthristy to me, and he said he wanted to take derek out because he's a strong player... Very interesting...

I told him first chance i got after hi sperformance in VG mafia i was goign to vote for him!

And i took it... Problem?

You technically did have a chance to do it in the last game, as he was alive on the first day, and you were even saying that you were going to try and outpost everyone on that first day, so I find this all very interesting. I've got my eye on you!

Arrows
01-06-2008, 05:01 PM
Without hinting at who you are. Does your group have obvious villians that could be in the game?



If his answer is yes I ahve some idea of what some of them could be.

I can see there being people against us. Not so sure if they'd be actual villains though.

masterded
01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
I can see there being people against us. Not so sure if they'd be actual villains though.

I don't like asking questions as much as I am, but are you all from the same cartoon? and if not Are you from the same studio?

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Alright! Another game, time to discuss the thing I've found most interesting thus far:



This sounds rather bloodthristy to me, and he said he wanted to take derek out because he's a strong player... Very interesting...



You technically did have a chance to do it in the last game, as he was alive on the first day, and you were even saying that you were going to try and outpost everyone on that first day, so I find this all very interesting. I've got my eye on you!


a few corrections. i said i was goign to try and out post DJ... your right hand man... but, when your a frickin jawa, its kinda futile... lol

Aaanyway, i feel content, ive caused some people to stir, did what i said i was going to do, (which i didnt do last game, i'll admit, because iw as taking more of a backseat roll as far as voting went, since i knew more about Star wars, wanted to see where chips fell...)

But to each his own i guess :-)

changevote: no vote

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
There is relaly only one non-cartoon character that would logically make it in. The villian from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

I find it odd that you would ask if any of us weren't cartoon characters unless you were the guy whose name escpaes me.


... Unless of course, anime characters have made it in than I could understand your question.


Change Vote: No Vote

Doom was a cartoon character as well, he was just in disguise.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
There is relaly only one non-cartoon character that would logically make it in. The villian from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

I find it odd that you would ask if any of us weren't cartoon characters unless you were the guy whose name escpaes me.


... Unless of course, anime characters have made it in than I could understand your question.


Change Vote: No Vote


Well thank you.

For the record, I was just trying to think out of the box. Something to do with Roger Rabbit did occur to me, but you don't see me assuming that it Has to be in the game or anything. And by that I mean, not necessarily the characters, but more the central event driving the game.

Twas a guess on my part.

gonvick
01-06-2008, 05:03 PM
it is difficult we really dont want to lynch a townie if we can help it especially a townie with good powers however with a no lynch we
1) dont have a chance of hitting a mafia even by luck
2) have no vote information to go on
3) have no death information to help us figure out how the game maybe set up
having said that though im in favour of a lynch id rather it not be just a plain old pick a ball out of a hat random lynch i rather have at least some logic behind it, hence why im holding off on voting for now

And that's the difference. A lynch with some kind of solid reason behind it is completely acceptable on day one, at least in my opinion. It's when lynching randomly just to take a shot at getting mafia that it's too likely to hurt the town. It really depends on the situation.

Personally, I don't think it's good policy to strongly favor either lynching or no lynching at the start of the game. We should be open to either possibility and revealing our intentions can make it easier for for the mafia in the early goings.

Crychon
01-06-2008, 05:05 PM
a few corrections. i said i was goign to try and out post DJ... your right hand man... but, when your a frickin jawa, its kinda futile... lol

Aaanyway, i feel content, ive caused some people to stir, did what i said i was going to do, (which i didnt do last game, i'll admit, because iw as taking more of a backseat roll as far as voting went, since i knew more about Star wars, wanted to see where chips fell...)

But to each his own i guess :-)

changevote: no vote

Well, the way things usually work out, if you out post dj, you outpost everyone. :)

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 05:06 PM
It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

Votes:

Antithesis: 1 (derek_b)

Arrows
01-06-2008, 05:06 PM
I don't like asking questions as much as I am, but are you all from the same cartoon? and if not Are you from the same studio?

I'm gonna try and refrain from giving too much away too early this game, so I hope you don't find it scummy that I'm choosing not to answer.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:06 PM
Well, the way things usually work out, if you out post dj, you outpost everyone. :)

lol, ok fair enough

Derek B
01-06-2008, 05:07 PM
I will go along with you if you answer two question.

1.Not counting the Town do you think all groups are bad?

2.Are you in a group (not counting the town)?

1. I don't know, but from the description of the game we've been given by MJD and the way he had to come up with a new dynamic for the way it works, I imagine a number of groups can work together. Particularly, his statement about win conditions leads me to believe that different groups will have different goals.

2. In a game where there are a semi-confirmed 8+ groups, why would anyone assume the town isn't simply another group? Besides, I don't need a group, I'm too paranoid when I'm in a group. My former VG mafia friends know that.

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 05:07 PM
I hadn't picked up on that Force. If it were anyone else, I'd say it was a Cappy slip and go for a lynch, but I'm pretty sure Mareo is new.

Didn't stop folks when I played in Barebones the first time and it netted the first Mafia kill. So while Mareo isn't my inclination at the moment, you never know.

As for the notions that have been put forth so far, I don't know I'd buy Wiley Coyote here. Sure he always took high falls. But his only interest in Road Runner as prey was because he was hungry. Kenny is human and this not likely prey. If we were talking a Buster Bunny or a Sandy Cheeks maybe. But not Kenny.

Not really a big Family Guy fan. Find the comedy too inconsistent. And it's been years since I watched the Simpsons. So any feuds on that front I can't comment on.

One thing that wouldn't surprise me at all though is if Kenny's killer is a parent. Be it someone like a Ned Flanders or someone more old-school like a Wilma Flintstone. Can't imagine too many toon parents being thrilled with the values South Park presents on its coarse surface.

And speaking of old-school characters like Wilma, who's to say it couldn't be an old-school character? Seems like a newer character would know Kenny always gets killed anyway and would target one of the other South Park kids. But like a Bosko or an Andy Panda wouldn't. So they would try to pick one one of these coarse brats at random. So many angles that could exist in Kenny's fall.

A thought that comes to my mind would be the Jetsons. They are used to being high up and one of those flying cars could have gotten them to the top of the tower Kenny fell from pretty well unobserved by the delegates on the ground. So many angles yet. Between the different format and how many angles there are, I think this may make a very good sit and wait phase.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:09 PM
If anyone has noticed, outside of the Barebones game when it was just Mafia vs Town, every game has had some story behind the struggle between mafia and Town.

So, when Kenny died and the South park Characters fled, I recalled the feud between Simpsons, South park, and Family as possibly being an impetus for Kenny's Death.

Since its a safe bet that multiple cartoon characters are in the game from multiple studios/shows/ etc, a Roger Rabbit type theme seemed possible as well. Maybe someone aside from Cartoons is trying to take over Y.O.U.T.U.B.E.

I dunno.

Just throwing ideas out there. I am not firmly attached to any of them, nor do i think anyone should be, day 1 at least.

Jim Force
01-06-2008, 05:10 PM
A thought that comes to my mind would be the Jetsons. They are used to being high up and one of those flying cars could have gotten them to the top of the tower Kenny fell from pretty well unobserved by the delegates on the ground. So many angles yet. Between the different format and how many angles there are, I think this may make a very good sit and wait phase.

Arrrgggghhh!!!

As the echoes of time swirl within the deep recesses of your mind you will only begin to form the thoughts of understanding about that which surrounds you! The boy falls from the heavens as the warriors from the past battle with swords drawn across the background of night before the final volcano explosion lights up the skies and only then will the fate of mankind be known!

masterded
01-06-2008, 05:11 PM
I'm gonna try and refrain from giving too much away too early this game, so I hope you don't find it scummy that I'm choosing not to answer.

Perfectly exceptable.

I guess I am going to post what I am thinking. For each group not including just the town I am thinking there is an opposite group. One will have the good guys the other the bad guys. Now some of them groups may not be easy to see which group is which though others it will be quite easy to see. I am guessing that the bad guys need to kill their good counterparts to win. Though other things would most likely be needed to. I am also thinking a council is a possibility. Where maybe the heads of the factions can talk plan work together or something. Though I could be way off.

Jim Force
01-06-2008, 05:11 PM
http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images/heman_poster.jpg

The Shape
01-06-2008, 05:12 PM
I think it's clear what course of action we should take with regards to Kenny's death: Blame Canada.

On the voting front, I don't see any point sitting it out for three days bickering over obscurities.

Vote: No Lynch

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 05:13 PM
Arrrgggghhh!!!

As the echoes of time swirl within the deep recesses of your mind you will only begin to form the thoughts of understanding about that which surrounds you! The boy falls from the heavens as the warriors from the past battle with swords drawn across the background of night before the final volcano explosion lights up the skies and only then will the fate of mankind be known!

Hell Yeah! Force Speak is Back!

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:14 PM
http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images/heman_poster.jpg

By the power of Greyskull.. I have the POWEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! rawr.

n stuff... !

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:15 PM
I think it's clear what course of action we should take with regards to Kenny's death: Blame Canada.

On the voting front, I don't see any point sitting it out for three days bickering over obscurities.

Vote: No Lynch

Last i checked, thats kinda the point of day 1, unless someone slips up....

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:15 PM
Jim is saying:
HE HAS THE POWER!!!!

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:18 PM
Jim is saying:
HE HAS THE POWER!!!!

False role claim! he claimed someone elses role! lynch him!


ok, im post whoring, im sorry :-(


Side note, the first cartoons that popped into my head when i started hearign about Cartoon Chaos...

He-Man
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
South park
Simpsons
Family Guy
maybe G.I Joe?
Wile E. Cyote, things like that. Stuff i watched when i was young.

The Shape
01-06-2008, 05:20 PM
Last i checked, thats kinda the point of day 1, unless someone slips up....

So its point is to be pointless? Interesting. :rolleyes:

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 05:21 PM
So its point is to be pointless? Interesting. :rolleyes:

That's the jist Shape.

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:22 PM
So its point is to be pointless? Interesting. :rolleyes:

The point is to use the day phases to gain as much information as possible, even if a no lynch is the consensus. Why vote for a no lynch when it will happen at the end of the phase anyhow?

I think that was the point he was trying to make. If we don't gain any information at all and vote no lynch then what do we gain?

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:22 PM
So its point is to be pointless? Interesting. :rolleyes:

Not amatter of pieng pointless, but a matter of using the day to find out what you can, discuss things with folks.. ect.

Not end the day 2 hours after it started, which is apparently what you want... scum....

The Shape
01-06-2008, 05:27 PM
I know the day won't end after two hours, was just doing my bit to close it off a little earlier than the deadline, because at this rate by the third day there'll be nothing left to speculate over. :(

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 05:27 PM
False role claim! he claimed someone elses role! lynch him!


ok, im post whoring, im sorry :-(


Side note, the first cartoons that popped into my head when i started hearign about Cartoon Chaos...

He-Man
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
South park
Simpsons
Family Guy
maybe G.I Joe?
Wile E. Cyote, things like that. Stuff i watched when i was young.

You know He-Man and G.I. Joe seem to me like they'd be a bit obscure to be in the mix when you have so many toons out there these days. I'd me more inclined to about characters from shows like Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends or My Gym Partner's A Monkey than these. For a reprise maybe. But the first time around. Unlikely.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:28 PM
You know He-Man and G.I. Joe seem to me like they'd be a bit obscure to be in the mix when you have so many toons out there these days. I'd me more inclined to about characters from shows like Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends or My Gym Partner's A Monkey than these. For a reprise maybe. But the first time around. Unlikely.

Thats a pretty good point, bear in mind though, that those were the cartoons i watched when i was younger (seems so many years ago now..) and i dont know much about these newer cartoons, save for Codename: Kids Next DOor (love that show!)

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:30 PM
You know He-Man and G.I. Joe seem to me like they'd be a bit obscure to be in the mix when you have so many toons out there these days. I'd me more inclined to about characters from shows like Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends or My Gym Partner's A Monkey than these. For a reprise maybe. But the first time around. Unlikely.

We must also keep in mind, no offense, that mjd is only 16. Popular old cartoons may not make it into this game over stuff on tv over the last 10 years or so.

Derek B
01-06-2008, 05:30 PM
I'm usually one of those people who go for a no lynch by the end of Day 1... but with 8+ factions, at least 2 people per faction and 35 people playing... even if half those factions are on the side of the town, that still leaves more people than ever before as likely bad guys.

If there was ever a day for a random bandwagon lynch, this would be it. Mind you, I'd rather it wasn't random. Anyone want to put their hand up as a bad guy? You'd save yourself a lot of trouble in the long run.

Go on... don't let paranoia of these little cartoons worry you. If you're bad, what could we all do?

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:33 PM
We must also keep in mind, no offense, that mjd is only 16. Popular old cartoons may not make it into this game over stuff on tv over the last 10 years or so.

Also, wasnt there a remake cartoon of He Man that lasted a couple of seasons? i know there is a remake of TMNT, but i dont believe there has been one for G.I. Joe...

"Now you know, and Knowing.. is half the battle..."

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Also, wasnt there a remake cartoon of He Man that lasted a couple of seasons? i know there is a remake of TMNT, but i dont believe there has been one for G.I. Joe...

"Now you know, and Knowing.. is half the battle..."

Bleh...

Both were/are rubbish as far as I'm concerned. There was a GI Joe Sigma 6 cartoon I think. Transformers had the crappy Pokemon type version for a while. Man...why did they have to ruin so many GREAT cartoons. Bastards.

supermareo
01-06-2008, 05:35 PM
We must also keep in mind, no offense, that mjd is only 16. Popular old cartoons may not make it into this game over stuff on tv over the last 10 years or so.

damn you meen no thundercats:(

masterded
01-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Vote: panix04

Why should the first mafia game of 08 start any different then the first mafia game of 07.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:36 PM
damn you meen no thundercats:(

OH! i KNEW i was forgetting one!

I admit to bieng a plasphemer for not remembering Thunder, THunder, Thundercats.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:37 PM
damn you meen no thundercats:(

Can't say for sure, I don't know how vast mjd's cartoon knowledge is outside of the years he's been alive, but I would doubt it. I have a feeling the older crowd around here may not know a whole lot of the characters in this game unless they are still avid cartoon watchers.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 05:37 PM
Vote: panix04

Why should the first mafia game of 08 start any different then the first mafia game of 07.
Why do you suggest we dethrone Queen Panix?

Wallbanger
01-06-2008, 05:38 PM
You know He-Man and G.I. Joe seem to me like they'd be a bit obscure to be in the mix when you have so many toons out there these days. I'd me more inclined to about characters from shows like Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends or My Gym Partner's A Monkey than these. For a reprise maybe. But the first time around. Unlikely.

It's going to depend on how well versed our young mod is in the whole range of animation. Will he mix oldschool and newschool? Will he go for over the top camp or will he try to keep some semblence of discipline in the story? Anything's possible.

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 05:40 PM
Thats a pretty good point, bear in mind though, that those were the cartoons i watched when i was younger (seems so many years ago now..) and i dont know much about these newer cartoons, save for Codename: Kids Next DOor (love that show!)

That's a fair point too. It's all in what MJD knows best toon wise. Still as I recall, MJD said in the signup thread that he was a teenager. So I would think Cartoon Cartoons like C:KND or Gym Partner would be more familiar than classic shows who haven't been circulated much lately like He-Man and GI Joe. Just by right of having been prominently advertised more recently.

Oh and I'm definitely with you on Codename: Kids Next Door. Haven't seen it a lot recently. But it's a really fun premise and there are some truly great characters there. The title characters except for maybe Number 4. Father. Count Spankula. Nightbrace. The Delightful Kids Down The Lane. Not to mention how experimental they will get with storylines or even mixing animation styles. Just an awesome show.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 05:40 PM
There are characters in this game from just about every period since the beginning of animation...

Just to make you guys even more unsure! :D

supermareo
01-06-2008, 05:40 PM
Can't say for sure, I don't know how vast mjd's cartoon knowledge is outside of the years he's been alive, but I would doubt it. I have a feeling the older crowd around here may not know a whole lot of the characters in this game unless they are still avid cartoon watchers.

yup i kinda get the feeling i'll be wondering who half the characters are tbh one because of age and two because i live in the uk im sure some of the cartoons in this wont have reached us at all

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:41 PM
Oh yeah MJ is a youngin aint he.
:Pats MJ on the head:

Probabaly some anime characters in teh agme then. I hear thats what them whippersnappers like to watch these days.

Derek B
01-06-2008, 05:41 PM
Why do you suggest we dethrone Queen Panix?

Why would you jump on an Antithesis vote so easily but not a panix vote?

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:43 PM
Well, I know nothing about cartoons past 1990 or so... but I do know a little about mafia.

Derek... give a good reason you still a vote on me or face my cartwheeling wrath!

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:44 PM
There are characters in this game from just about every period since the beginning of animation...

Just to make you guys even more unsure! :D

Damn! I wish I got Steamboat Willie!

or better yet.

OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT!

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:44 PM
Nevermind... i see what you did there.


Aussie, why the Panix love?

supermareo
01-06-2008, 05:44 PM
That's a fair point too. It's all in what MJD knows best toon wise. Still as I recall, MJD said in the signup thread that he was a teenager. So I would think Cartoon Cartoons like C:KND or Gym Partner would be more familiar than classic shows who haven't been circulated much lately like He-Man and GI Joe. Just by right of having been prominently advertised more recently.

Oh and I'm definitely with you on Codename: Kids Next Door. Haven't seen it a lot recently. But it's a really fun premise and there are some truly great characters there. The title characters except for maybe Number 4. Father. Count Spankula. Nightbrace. The Delightful Kids Down The Lane. Not to mention how experimental they will get with storylines or even mixing animation styles. Just an awesome show.

who, what, where - damn its only the first day and somebodys managed to copleatly lose me already

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 05:45 PM
who, what, where - damn its only the first day and somebodys managed to copleatly lose me already

Ditto.

supermareo
01-06-2008, 05:46 PM
who, what, where - damn its only the first day and somebodys managed to compleatly lose me already

fixed, i think

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Well, Panix hasn't even do anything yet.

Remember what happened when we killed him first off for no particular reason? We lost a vigilante (although probably for the best considering it was Panix)

Derek B
01-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Well, I know nothing about cartoons past 1990 or so... but I do know a little about mafia.

Derek... give a good reason you still a vote on me or face my cartwheeling wrath!

Give me a good reason to take it off! I've faced you cartwheeling wrath before, you done naked cartwheels around my visored statue for a day.. and yet no-one thought to look to see who the statue was of. I stand by my stance of being more likely to hit bad guys at the start of this game than in any other, and you're first alphabetically.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:49 PM
Give me a good reason to take it off! I've faced you cartwheeling wrath before, you done naked cartwheels around my visored statue for a day.. and yet no-one thought to look to see who the statue was of. I stand by my stance of being more likely to hit bad guys at the start of this game than in any other, and you're first alphabetically.

*%()x%#!)(!
lol

Wallbanger
01-06-2008, 05:51 PM
who, what, where - damn its only the first day and somebodys managed to copleatly lose me already

Codename Kids Next Door:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codename:_Kids_Next_Door

My Gym Partner is a Monkey:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Gym_Partner

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:51 PM
While I may be first, alphabetically
I am not first on the list.

1. Lostrelms
2. Midnightnick
3. masterded
4. Slim Jim
5. i effin rule
6. Self
7. derek_b
8. supermareo
9. BIGJOSH
10. James Casey
11. jamck
12. NickC13573
13. Gonvick
14. The Aussie
15. Ghetto Anthony
16. Imarevenant
17. rdsinclair
18. Crychon
19. Sprinklefurball
20. Wallbanger
21. Antithesis
22. trypio
23. panix04
24. nZane
25. Arrows
26. ya_its_me
27. BlueStar
28. Clarity
29. Thomnipotent
30. ShaunGBD
31. djthefunkchris
32. Jim Force
33. cappyboy
34. Minister Whitey
35. The Shape


So why not vote on Lostrelms?

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Damn! I wish I got Steamboat Willie!

or better yet.

OSWALD THE LUCKY RABBIT!

Not THAT old! :eek:

Close though... maybe! ;)

Really, you guys' underestimation of my knowledge angers and offends me... :mad: Time to take out the old mod-hammer... (MJDolinir, I call it...) :D

Self
01-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Just got in and read up. Yay! Another game started. I got work tomorrow, so the earlier I go to sleep the better. Hanging out for 10 minutes though.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Also, unless there are 17.5 or more bad guys, choosing a name at random is NOT more likely to produce a lynched bad guy.

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 05:52 PM
I'm down for that Anti. It'd let us see an idea of the groups, to see what we're up against. And at the least, we can draw any information out of him.

Vote: Lostrelms

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 05:53 PM
who, what, where - damn its only the first day and somebodys managed to copleatly lose me already

Codename: Kids Next Door and My Gym Partner's A Monkey. A couple of prominent cartoon series currently on Cartoon Network here in the US. Codename: Kids Next Door is about these sort of superhero type kids who try to defend the joys of childhood from the interference of adults and Gym Partner is about a human kid who transfers to a middle school full of animal students. His best buddy's a spider monkey. The school bully a shark. The principal is a frog on a Segway. Not as big a fan of My Gym Partner's A Monkey as I am Codename: Kids Next Door. Characters aren't quite as much fun on Gym Partner. If I want to see a cartoon monkey these days, I'll watch the Curious George series on PBS.

What can I say? With as crappy as many of the live action series are in prime time anymore, I take regular refuge in cartoons.

Derek B
01-06-2008, 05:54 PM
While I may be first, alphabetically
I am not first on the list.

So why not vote on Lostrelms?

Cos my notes are organised alphabetically. Makes it easier to find who I'm looking for when I need to add to them. And you'd better believe that when I run my own game that the player list wll be alphabetically done!!

Now... are you going to give me a reason to not vote for you or do I just leave my vote where it is?

Clarity
01-06-2008, 05:57 PM
There is relaly only one non-cartoon character that would logically make it in. The villian from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Judge Doom was a cartoon.. He was squashed by a steamroller and survived before being covered in dip..

I have some thoughts but right now im happy to observe. We have 72 hours (ish) to form some views so lets not rush things.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 05:57 PM
I'm down for that Anti. It'd let us see an idea of the groups, to see what we're up against. And at the least, we can draw any information out of him.

Vote: Lostrelms

VOte: Midnightnick

By your logic, could learn the exact same thing from lynching you.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 05:59 PM
It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

Votes:

Antithesis: 1 (derek_b)

No Lynch: 1 (The Shape)

Panix04: 1 (masterded)

LostRelms: 1 (Midnightnick)

Midnightnick: 1 (LostRelms)

supermareo
01-06-2008, 05:59 PM
ok well seeing as its nearly midnight here and i have to be up for work in the morning i will bid you all a goodnight, i'll check in on the morrow though i may not be able to post due to time constraints otherwise i shall see you all anytime after 6:30pm gmt tommorow

Self
01-06-2008, 06:00 PM
Codename: Kids next wha? Man, I haven't watched Cartoon Network since Johnny Bravo... I think I was too old for it then.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Cos my notes are organised alphabetically. Makes it easier to find who I'm looking for when I need to add to them. And you'd better believe that when I run my own game that the player list wll be alphabetically done!!

Now... are you going to give me a reason to not vote for you or do I just leave my vote where it is?

Let me put it to you like this....

You worry about being night killed night 1 because of what you have accomplished in past games.

I worry about making a huge error and getting myself killed by roleclaiming early on, based upon my experience in past games. Vote all you want, You won't get zilch from me.

As far as my townieness goes... I will be the most active and helpful townie I can be, and there will be no doubting that.

Also I have done nothing to warrant a vote. As demonstrated earlier, your reasoning is flawed and poorly explained, often indicative of scummy behavior.

While I suspect it could be that you are, in fact, looking for scum by voting on me based on such bad premises that anyone who agrees with you is thereby suspect, your stance that I must somehow defend myself has me questioning that belief.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Judge Doom was a cartoon.. He was squashed by a steamroller and survived before being covered in dip..

I have some thoughts but right now im happy to observe. We have 72 hours (ish) to form some views so lets not rush things.
That has been revealed previously. I was wrong on that account but NO LONGER.

Clarity
01-06-2008, 06:05 PM
That has been revealed previously. I was wrong on that account but NO LONGER.

Oh.. Sorry.. I was giving at as detailed a read as i could, but must have missed the reply

rdsinclair
01-06-2008, 06:06 PM
damn you meen no thundercats:(

No Samurai Pizza Cats either! :( I'm probably the only person who remember them anyway

masterded
01-06-2008, 06:07 PM
Change Vote: No Vote Should of had smiles in my last post.:)

Self
01-06-2008, 06:08 PM
No Samurai Pizza Cats either! :( I'm probably the only person who remember them anyway

Oh my God. They were ace! I liked the one with the umbrella.

Clarity
01-06-2008, 06:09 PM
No Samurai Pizza Cats either! :( I'm probably the only person who remember them anyway

Wowsers.. a girl that knows Samurai Pizza Cats.... Jeez i should just propose right now :D

Midnightnick
01-06-2008, 06:09 PM
No Samurai Pizza Cats either! :( I'm probably the only person who remember them anyway

I remember them. And Swat Kats.

I'd have killed for Swat Kats to have been characters.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 06:15 PM
It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

Votes:

Antithesis: 1 (derek_b)

No Lynch: 1 (The Shape)

LostRelms: 1 (Midnightnick)

Midnightnick: 1 (LostRelms)

rdsinclair
01-06-2008, 06:15 PM
Wowsers.. a girl that knows Samurai Pizza Cats.... Jeez i should just propose right now :D

"They've got more fur than any turtle ever had"

Don't get me wrong I still love the turtles, man I miss being a kid with those cartoons on.

On a totally different note Kinda makes me wanna see a Disney vs. Warner Brother mafia, Mickey vs. Bugs! hehe

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 06:16 PM
If anyone is Doug, Porkchop, or Skeeter...I love you.

Clarity
01-06-2008, 06:17 PM
"They've got more fur than any turtle ever had"

Don't get me wrong I still love the turtles, man I miss being a kid with those cartoons on.

On a totally different note Kinda makes me wanna see a Disney vs. Warner Brother mafia, Mickey vs. Bugs! hehe

Hee hee.. Girl loves a hairy one...

Heck i so dont act my age :D

On that note.. Sleep time.. Got an early start

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 06:17 PM
On a totally different note Kinda makes me wanna see a Disney vs. Warner Brother mafia, Mickey vs. Bugs! hehe


Are you hinting at something?

rdsinclair
01-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Are you hinting at something?

Nope, just remembering my childhood arugments with friends

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 06:26 PM
Swat Kats would have been so freaking sweet. I absolutely loved that show


To Clarity: It's cool, Judge Doom was what he was. UI haven't seen the movie in five years so my memory was a bit rusty.

rdsinclair
01-06-2008, 06:29 PM
Swat Kats would have been so freaking sweet. I absolutely loved that show


To Clarity: It's cool, Judge Doom was what he was. UI haven't seen the movie in five years so my memory was a bit rusty.

I think I have it on video tape around here somewhere, for those of us who remember what those are ;)

Derek B
01-06-2008, 06:30 PM
Let me put it to you like this....

You worry about being night killed night 1 because of what you have accomplished in past games.

I worry about making a huge error and getting myself killed by roleclaiming early on, based upon my experience in past games. Vote all you want, You won't get zilch from me.

As far as my townieness goes... I will be the most active and helpful townie I can be, and there will be no doubting that.

Also I have done nothing to warrant a vote. As demonstrated earlier, your reasoning is flawed and poorly explained, often indicative of scummy behavior.

While I suspect it could be that you are, in fact, looking for scum by voting on me based on such bad premises that anyone who agrees with you is thereby suspect, your stance that I must somehow defend myself has me questioning that belief.

I must have missed the part where you proved me entirely wrong. Was it the part where the game was talked about by MJD before it started, the name of this particular game or a secret message in another thread. ;)

Disprove any of the following.

1. This is a game with more groups than normal.
2. A war (compared to a normal mafia game) requires more sides than normal to be fighting each other.
3. Groups that fight each other are probably not working together
4. Each of these groups needs to have multiple people in them in order to be a group
5. By adding up the number of groups we've been told about (8+) and multiplying by at least 2 so that they are groups NOT individuals, that means that least 16 almost half of people are in groups.

I don't know if there are groups working together or in favour of the town, although I imagine there MUST be at least one pro-town group. I would like someone to point out where I've gone wrong so far, I'm feeling mightily talkative today.

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 06:30 PM
No Samurai Pizza Cats either! :( I'm probably the only person who remember them anyway

Nah. I remember this series too. Never watched it. Struck me as a TMNT knockoff and that killed my interest. But I do remember having heard about it.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:33 PM
I wonder what cartoon families there are?


We have South Park, and I am assuming that Thundercats is one.


oh and I have a problem with the first right up. There was no Cartman saying "you Bastard"

masterded
01-06-2008, 06:35 PM
I wonder what cartoon families there are?


We have South Park, and I am assuming that Thundercats is one.


oh and I have a problem with the first right up. There was no Cartman saying "you Bastard"

1. Sout Park people are gone.

2. Cartman dosen't say that.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:36 PM
sorry, I forgot that ones name, as I have not seen South Park in 3 months.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 06:36 PM
1. Sout Park people are gone.

2. Cartman dosen't say that.

Kyle says that...

Stan says "Oh my god! they killed kenny!"

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 06:42 PM
I must have missed the part where you proved me entirely wrong. Was it the part where the game was talked about by MJD before it started, the name of this particular game or a secret message in another thread. ;)

Disprove any of the following.

1. This is a game with more groups than normal.
2. A war (compared to a normal mafia game) requires more sides than normal to be fighting each other.
3. Groups that fight each other are probably not working together
4. Each of these groups needs to have multiple people in them in order to be a group
5. By adding up the number of groups we've been told about (8+) and multiplying by at least 2 so that they are groups NOT individuals, that means that least 16 almost half of people are in groups.

I don't know if there are groups working together or in favour of the town, although I imagine there MUST be at least one pro-town group. I would like someone to point out where I've gone wrong so far, I'm feeling mightily talkative today.

Prove you entirely wrong how? You said you voted for the first person alphabetically. This method, in and of itself, is so asinine that it does not require a counter argument.

Every reasonable person here agrees that we should look for people who act suspiciously, as providing some justification for voting on someone. Your justification is that my name starts with teh letter A.

BRILLIANT!

At least half the people are in groups.

GASP
WHO'DA THUNK IT?

What does that have to do with your voting for someone because their name begins with the letter A?

Absolutely nothing.


Here's what I think. You looked at the last game, saw how flustered I got early on, and thought you could repeat that. What you didn't consider, however, is the fact that you are no Outlaw.

You do not scare me.

So, if your vote is some kind of attempt to intimidate information, you have failed. If you really wanted to begin a bandwagon, fortunately for me, everyone aside from Aussie requires a justification greater than "Well, his name starts with the letter A".

In short, you are wasting your time.

But, if you want to keep your vote on me rather than look for scum, by all means, go ahead. Several players have already hinted that they ahve made note of your lame tactic.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:42 PM
and remember Derek B, more than 2 people could be in a group, and 1 person could be 1 whole group, maybe a triple or quadruple vote.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 06:44 PM
and remember Derek B, more than 2 people could be in a group, and 1 person could be 1 whole group, maybe a triple or quadruple vote.

that a hint?

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 06:45 PM
It's a cartoon mafia, I believe we are all likely to be cartoons. Also, it's a warring families game meaning that there are likely to be a strong number of factions in this game. Assuming that the town is basically another one of them, lynching on the first day in this game seems that it is more likely than not going to result in the death of someone who ISN'T town. And with that...

VOTE: Antithesis

BTW how do you know, absolutely, that the game is X or Y?

Not even 30 minutes in the game and you are ready to lynch someone while insisting that the game has to be how you imagine it to be. Considering how strong of a player you are, I find this line of reasoning, from you, to be highly suspect.
I was thinking the same thing as Derek, but heck... This one here...
Makes me wonder something, what would most groups win conditions be?

I figure we will have the generic "all threats to the town eliminated"

then perhaps...? Thoughts?
You don't know the town's win condition?

SCUM
VOTE: LOSTRELMS

a few corrections. i said i was goign to try and out post DJ... your right hand man... but, when your a frickin jawa, its kinda futile... lol

Aaanyway, i feel content, ive caused some people to stir, did what i said i was going to do, (which i didnt do last game, i'll admit, because iw as taking more of a backseat roll as far as voting went, since i knew more about Star wars, wanted to see where chips fell...)

But to each his own i guess :-)

changevote: no vote

Not amatter of pieng pointless, but a matter of using the day to find out what you can, discuss things with folks.. ect.

Not end the day 2 hours after it started, which is apparently what you want... scum....

Your so scummy, you are scum.

Lynch this one, he's scum.

Imarevenant
01-06-2008, 06:46 PM
and remember Derek B, more than 2 people could be in a group, and 1 person could be 1 whole group, maybe a triple or quadruple vote.

that a hint?

Lol, perhaps he's Walt Disney

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:46 PM
no i was just sayin he divided it by 2, as saying that half the people are in groups, but he didnt divide it by 3 or 4 to find group numbers. Just pointing it out.

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 06:46 PM
sorry, I forgot that ones name, as I have not seen South Park in 3 months.

You must have an awful memory. I have watched South Park in probably over 3 years and I could have told you it wasn't Cartman that said it.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 06:48 PM
I think I have it on video tape around here somewhere, for those of us who remember what those are ;)
Video...Tape?

You speaking so crazy

Derek B
01-06-2008, 06:48 PM
Prove you entirely wrong how? You said you voted for the first person alphabetically. This method, in and of itself, is so asinine that it does not require a counter argument.

Every reasonable person here agrees that we should look for people who act suspiciously, as providing some justification for voting on someone. Your justification is that my name starts with teh letter A.

BRILLIANT!

At least half the people are in groups.

GASP
WHO'DA THUNK IT?

What does that have to do with your voting for someone because their name begins with the letter A?

Absolutely nothing.


Here's what I think. You looked at the last game, saw how flustered I got early on, and thought you could repeat that. What you didn't consider, however, is the fact that you are no Outlaw.

You do not scare me.

So, if your vote is some kind of attempt to intimidate information, you have failed. If you really wanted to begin a bandwagon, fortunately for me, everyone aside from Aussie requires a justification greater than "Well, his name starts with the letter A".

In short, you are wasting your time.

But, if you want to keep your vote on me rather than look for scum, by all means, go ahead. Several players have already hinted that they ahve made note of your lame tactic.

Saying an argument is asinine doesn't invalidate it. Is there evidence you aren't a bad guy? There's an element of chance in anything and this time, the balance seems to favour striking the bad guys rather than the good guys. I could've chose any name, obviously, but I decided to go with yours.

Aussie's name begins with T.. The Aussie. I suppose I could've went for Arrows after everything that happened last time but... well, you were first in line.

How do you know what several players have been making notes on? My vote will remain where it is until I have reason to change it. It's as good a vote as any at this point.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 06:49 PM
I was thinking the same thing as Derek, but heck... This one here...

You don't know the town's win condition?

SCUM
VOTE: LOSTRELMS





Your so scummy, you are scum.

Lynch this one, he's scum.

Hmmm.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 06:50 PM
I was thinking the same thing as Derek, but heck... This one here...

You don't know the town's win condition?

SCUM
VOTE: LOSTRELMS





Your so scummy, you are scum.

Lynch this one, he's scum.


Making convorsation and trying to bait mafioso into stating a win condition is scummy?

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 06:50 PM
WHAT? DJ is not voting against Lost because his name starts with the letter L and L is almost midway through the alphabet?

DJ I am impressed. Tell me, have you played this game before, and ever had any success lynching scum?

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:50 PM
Saying an argument is asinine doesn't invalidate it. Is there evidence you aren't a bad guy? There's an element of chance in anything and this time, the balance seems to favour striking the bad guys rather than the good guys. I could've chose any name, obviously, but I decided to go with yours.

Aussie's name begins with T.. The Aussie. I suppose I could've went for Arrows after everything that happened last time but... well, you were first in line.

How do you know what several players have been making notes on? My vote will remain where it is until I have reason to change it. It's as good a vote as any at this point.

arent we all bad guys, in a way. I mean we are different families, so wouldnt everyone else be a bad guy?

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 06:50 PM
Hmmm.

Hmm? You don't know the town's win conditions either?

Thomnipotent
01-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Just read up and am starting my first Mafia game! Whoo! Exciting!

I'm not great with this game yet, seeing as how I'm just starting, but I've been reading up and I think I'm getting it at least a bit.

Derek's support of voting on the first night makes sense because of the heightened probability of hitting somebody in a group. Derek's numbers are low-balling it a bit though, it seems; a few people have mentioned that there may be two or three members to a group, meaning that 16 group members of 35 total is a low estimate. With that said, I think it makes sense to vote the first night in this situation.

Also, to be honest, Lostrelms is making me nervous. It seems like he's being more hostile than necessary, and is trying to pick people out and accuse them less subtly than possible. It looks like scum, friends. That's how I see it, at least.

I'm not so much jumping on the bandwagon as I had found Lostrelms suspicious enough to vote on before seeing anybody else vote him.

VOTE: LOSTRELMS

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Is there evidence you aren't a bad guy?

Is there evidence you aren't a bad guy, i mean, aside from your asinine voting pattern?

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 06:52 PM
WHAT? DJ is not voting against Lost because his name starts with the letter L and L is almost midway through the alphabet?

DJ I am impressed. Tell me, have you played this game before, and ever had any success lynching scum?

Yeah. He's scum, and you might be too... But Lostrelms might as well be placing a "HELLO, I'm MAFIA" sign on his head. He don't know the win conditions of the town. Tell me something, do you?

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 06:53 PM
arent we all bad guys, in a way. I mean we are different families, so wouldnt everyone else be a bad guy?

I don't know for sure about all the games... but this is the worse possible thing I have heard you say, if your Pro-Town.

masterded
01-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Vote: Lostrelms

I got to agree with dj here.
Also may I add vote the right way people. His name is Lostrelms not LOSTRELMS.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Yeah. He's scum, and you might be too... But Lostrelms might as well be placing a "HELLO, I'm MAFIA" sign on his head. He don't know the win conditions of the town. Tell me something, do you?

You assume i dont know the win condition, because i didnt post it wide open for everyone to see. I posted the generic win condition. And that makes me scum?

DJ, your not making a whole lot of sense today sir.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Hmm? You don't know the town's win conditions either?

Entirely?

Can't say that I do. I know bits of it as it's mentioned in mine however.

Thomnipotent
01-06-2008, 06:55 PM
Change Vote: Lostrelms

That was a purely cosmetic change vote. Rookie mistake, caps locking it and all. I mean, crap, I was about to go back and edit it... stupid Thom. :P

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 06:55 PM
You assume i dont know the win condition, because i didnt post it wide open for everyone to see. I posted the generic win condition. And that makes me scum?

DJ, your not making a whole lot of sense today sir.

But I know something you obviously don't, huh;)

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:56 PM
I don't know for sure about all the games... but this is the worse possible thing I have heard you say, if your Pro-Town.

Still, wouldnt my argument make sense? If you are town, everyone else is bad. If you are part of a family, you are trying to rid of every family.

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 06:56 PM
arent we all bad guys, in a way. I mean we are different families, so wouldnt everyone else be a bad guy?

Um...no? I know that no part of me is a bad guy and as far as I know, I have no specific enemy. Who is your enemy Nick?

Vote: NickC13573

Arrows
01-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Still, wouldnt my argument make sense? If you are town, everyone else is bad. If you are part of a family, you are trying to rid of every family.

Incorrect. Try again.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 06:56 PM
But I know something you obviously don't, huh;)

That you rgrasping for straws? Yeah im well aware of that.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Still, wouldnt my argument make sense? If you are town, everyone else is bad. If you are part of a family, you are trying to rid of every family.
There's the whole problem of town-aligned families who are good for the town but independent from it.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Um...no? I know that no part of me is a bad guy and as far as I know, I have no specific enemy. Who is your enemy Nick?

Vote: NickC13573

my enemy is everyone else' enemy

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Still, wouldnt my argument make sense? If you are town, everyone else is bad. If you are part of a family, you are trying to rid of every family.

Guess I found where my vote will be staying for sure now.

Jim Force
01-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Jim is saying:
HE HAS THE POWER!!!!

Arrrggghhhh!!!

The scrolls of the ancients tell of a Warrior who Punched a falling moon which was on a collision course with Atlantis and redirected the destinies of all the known world! As the waves rose in the final days he raised his sword high and called on a power beyond the understanding of mortals which held back the waves of destruction for a moment...until a flurry of Arrows descended from the sky turning day to night...the rest is history...

Moe Hunter
01-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Wait wait wait wait wait... Why am I not in this? I signed up!

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Entirely?

Can't say that I do. I know bits of it as it's mentioned in mine however.

So you do know. Lostrelms don't have a clue.

MJD, can you clarify, do I have to spell it all exactly in capital or small, or does it count if I capitalize the whole name?

i effin rule
01-06-2008, 06:59 PM
my enemy is everyone else' enemy

Except you are evidently trying to get rid of every other family, I'm not.

masterded
01-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Except you are evidently trying to get rid of every other family, I'm not.

Wow that is a good point. Change Vote: NickC13573

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Yeah. He's scum, and you might be too... But Lostrelms might as well be placing a "HELLO, I'm MAFIA" sign on his head. He don't know the win conditions of the town. Tell me something, do you?

Gotta do better than that. No one is getting crap out of me.

As for this gotta be town business... who said there had to be just 1 town? :)

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 07:01 PM
That you rgrasping for straws? Yeah im well aware of that.

Nope... I'm not rgrasping for straws. I Know what the goal of the town is. Something you don't.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 07:01 PM
no, I never said that IEF, I was just saying that because of my interpretation of the game. After PM'ing the mod, I understand that some families are town aligned.

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 07:01 PM
Arrrggghhhh!!!

The scrolls of the ancients tell of a Warrior who Punched a falling moon which was on a collision course with Atlantis and redirected the destinies of all the known world! As the waves rose in the final days he raised his sword high and called on a power beyond the understanding of mortals which held back the waves of destruction for a moment...until a flurry of Arrows descended from the sky turning day to night...the rest is history...

Flurry of Arrows.. haha

great to see you back Jim.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:01 PM
So you do know. Lostrelms don't have a clue.

MJD, can you clarify, do I have to spell it all exactly in capital or small, or does it count if I capitalize the whole name?

More assumptions...

This has to be the stupidest reason to lynch i have ever seen.

Oh No! i wont drop hints at the towns win condition! Lets make sure and lynch me!

Arrows
01-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Gotta do better than that. No one is getting crap out of me.

As for this gotta be town business... who said there had to be just 1 town? :)

Care to explain how there's more than one town?

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Nope... I'm not rgrasping for straws. I Know what the goal of the town is. Something you don't.

Thanks for the personal **** *******.


I cant type or spell well, want to make fun of it some more?


On a side note, I'm well aware of the towns win condition, im just not going to spill it so the mafia can pick up on it and use it. Its as simple as that.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:04 PM
Nope... I'm not rgrasping for straws. I Know what the goal of the town is. Something you don't.

Thanks for the personal shot *******.


I cant type or spell well, want to make fun of it some more?


On a side note, I'm well aware of the towns win condition, im just not going to spill it so the mafia can pick up on it and use it. Its as simple as that.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 07:04 PM
no, I never said that IEF, I was just saying that because of my interpretation of the game. After PM'ing the mod, I understand that some families are town aligned.

So uhm. You didn't know this BEFORE you pmed the mod?

I'd love to know why your role says you have to take out every group. I really would. Can't be town or good guy if that's the case, and you're just, outta luck.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:05 PM
Browser screwy, restarting.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 07:05 PM
It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

Votes:

Antithesis: 1 (derek_b)

No Lynch: 1 (The Shape)

LostRelms: 3 (Midnightnick, djthefunkchris, Thomnipotent)

Midnightnick: 1 (LostRelms)

Nick C: 2 (i effin rule, masterded)

masterded
01-06-2008, 07:06 PM
It is now day phase. You have until 5 PM EST/10 PM GMT January 9th to lynch. It's 18 to lynch.

Votes:

Antithesis: 1 (derek_b)

No Lynch: 1 (The Shape)

Panix04: 1 (masterded)

LostRelms: 3 (Midnightnick, djthefunkchris, Thomnipotent)

Midnightnick: 1 (LostRelms)

Nick C: 2 (i effin rule, masterded)

Um.. I don't think that is right.

masterded
01-06-2008, 07:07 PM
Also I must say dj being called and ******* something I never thought I would see.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 07:07 PM
So uhm. You didn't know this BEFORE you pmed the mod?

I'd love to know why your role says you have to take out every group. I really would. Can't be town or good guy if that's the case, and you're just, outta luck.

Arrows, Lostrelms, and everyone else who suspects me. My FIRST understanding of the Warring Families game of mafia, was that their was NO town, just that everyone was a Mafia-type family, and your goal was to be the only family alive.

djthefunkchris
01-06-2008, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the personal shot *******.


I cant type or spell well, want to make fun of it some more?


On a side note, I'm well aware of the towns win condition, im just not going to spill it so the mafia can pick up on it and use it. Its as simple as that.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. I make mistakes to, I thought I was being funny, if your dislexic or something, I didn't mean to make fun. If not, I still didn't mean it in a mean way. Your still scum.
Makes me wonder something, what would most groups win conditions be?
I figure we will have the generic "all threats to the town eliminated"

then perhaps...? Thoughts?
I'm not just guessing. You just don't know.

cappyboy
01-06-2008, 07:08 PM
More assumptions...

This has to be the stupidest reason to lynch i have ever seen.

Oh No! i wont drop hints at the towns win condition! Lets make sure and lynch me!

Doesn't take much sometimes, dude. They got me in Barebones because I got overeager to lynch someone. Forget that it was my first game. Or I didn't know the site mechanics well enough to not know that I couldn't cut and paste a bolded vote into my post and have it be bolded as well. Of course, then again I was Mafia that game. But the moral still remains. It doesn't take much to draw a hanging crowd in this game.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Arrows, Lostrelms, and everyone else who suspects me. My FIRST understanding of the Warring Families game of mafia, was that their was NO town, just that everyone was a Mafia-type family, and your goal was to be the only family alive.

I can assure you, thats incorrect sir!


Change Vote: NickC13573

masterded
01-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Arrows, Lostrelms, and everyone else who suspects me. My FIRST understanding of the Warring Families game of mafia, was that their was NO town, just that everyone was a Mafia-type family, and your goal was to be the only family alive.

No matter what the fact your role pm didn't make it clear to you that wasn't the case means your not a good guy. Or somehow you missed something that should have been real clear. The first thing seems more likely then the second.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Yet I would bet you every good side's role pm states that they do have some sort of allies. That would mean that yours does not.

Why not?

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Care to explain how there's more than one town?

You mean blabber about how I think MJ set the game up and get myself targeted tonight in the process. No thanks. Could place a vote on Lost though, he looks ready to talk... almost.

mjdgoldeneye
01-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Moe, I have no idea why you aren't in the game! I updated the sign-up thread a few times, and a few times it didn't take... I almost gave outlaw a role and forgot to give Ghetto Anthony one!

I'm sending a role your way ASAP. You can play as soon as you get it!

Also: I am sending THEDEMONSEED a role, as well as Shadowed Flames if he wants. This is just to make sure things are balanced. No word on whether these guys are going into new or current groups...

Also, case and stuff doesn't matter on a vote. Just make sure I understand it. VOTE: hjasdd is not good, nor is VOTE: Nick (there are 2: Midnight and C!)

masterded
01-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Sorry, I couldn't resist. I make mistakes to, I thought I was being funny, if your dislexic or something, I didn't mean to make fun. If not, I still didn't mean it in a mean way. Your still scum.

I'm not just guessing. You just don't know.

It is not funny to make fun of dxelsiic people.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 07:11 PM
I just skimmed my PM role, and didnt see the part about helping the town.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:11 PM
Sorry, I couldn't resist. I make mistakes to, I thought I was being funny, if your dislexic or something, I didn't mean to make fun. If not, I still didn't mean it in a mean way. Your still scum.

I'm not just guessing. You just don't know.

Again, It was a bait for mafioso, and you took the bait, does that make you mafia? perhaps. but Nick C looks alot scummier right now.

The Aussie
01-06-2008, 07:11 PM
To be more precise. It doesn't take anythinG for you to be hung. Look back to the first mafia game on the boards and lynches 1 and 2.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 07:13 PM
I just skimmed my PM role, and didnt see the part about helping the town.

Yea.

You're lying.

Vote: NickC13573

Antithesis
01-06-2008, 07:13 PM
To be more precise. It doesn't take anythinG for you to be hung. Look back to the first mafia game on the boards and lynches 1 and 2.

Not to forget, some of us are more well hung than others!

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 07:14 PM
Actually, I am not.

Lostrelms
01-06-2008, 07:14 PM
To be more precise. It doesn't take anythinG for you to be hung. Look back to the first mafia game on the boards and lynches 1 and 2.

What annoys me about it, is that ive yet to survive a game as a townie.

Arrows
01-06-2008, 07:15 PM
Actually, I am not.

Then prove it.

*Saws off the legs of a table so he can prop his feet up.*

REAL funny MJD.

NickC13573
01-06-2008, 07:15 PM
and Arrows, this is a game of groups, correct? What is a possible if my role PM doesnt give me any allies?