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sprinklefurball
05-23-2008, 01:36 AM
you want to hear how you survived the lynch?
of course

Wallbanger
05-23-2008, 01:37 AM
Wallbanger not being active, and never really catching up I don't think.

The signal to noise ratio in this game was horrible, and I like a chatty game! I could not for the life of me sift through all the crap and find the ponies. I was more than willing to follow a more knowledgeable player's lead, but it seemed like we were short on conviction more than once.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:38 AM
you want to hear how you survived the lynch?

of course

i could nullify a vote. when i woke up at 430 it was 5-4 me. rev was asking for who i wanted to nullify. (it would have taken 10 to lynch me ;) )

yours was the surest one not to come off of me so i nullified it. lol

jbergey_2005
05-23-2008, 01:38 AM
I want to congratulate Moe who was killed but was key to our victory. Outlaw made all the right moves and DJ helped in a huge way the later stages. Derek got caught early and IMO wasnt at his A game probably under the circumstances. As for me I really wasnt allowed to do anything which I am sorry for. I love to win with great people but I hate to have to hide because of the people on your side lack confidence in you, therefore this is likely my last game.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 01:39 AM
The signal to noise ratio in this game was horrible, and I like a chatty game! I could not for the life of me sift through all the crap and find the ponies. I was more than willing to follow a more knowledgeable player's lead, but it seemed like we were short on conviction more than once.

At the end, taking out the more vocal people was a huge help. It made the day phases like night phases.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:40 AM
i could nullify a vote. when i woke up at 430 it was 5-4 me. rev was asking for who i wanted to nullify. (it would have taken 10 to lynch me ;) )

yours was the surest one not to come off of me so i nullified it. lol

your vote was the one that didnt count. and jb wasnt around to hammer you. though i doubt i would have let him anyway. insurance. made you look scummier. lol

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 01:40 AM
I want to congratulate Moe who was killed but was key to our victory. Outlwa made all the right moves and DJ helped in a huge way the later stages. Derek got caught early and IO wasnt at his A game bprobably under the circumstances. As for me I really wasnt allowed to do anything which I am sorry for.

Did we say you could post yet? LMAO;)

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:41 AM
Well, another problem all the scum had was, we put too many protectors and bulletproof type townies into the game.

But again, this was to be balanced by the Phoenix Force, in part, because the goal there was to control one town protector and eventually turn her (Jean Grey) into an unblockable killer.

ANd of course, TPF was to be baklanced by the White Queen and the Cuckoos.

Unfortunately that entire thing was just a big mess.

It was planned to be fair, but its our faults as mods for not anticipating the fact that players can't always see the roles as you do, and will often do things differently than what you intended.

This is why making roles or groups contingent upon others is bad. Thats the main lesson I am taking from this, and I think Rev shares my sentiments.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:42 AM
I want to congratulate Moe who was killed but was key to our victory. Outlwa made all the right moves and DJ helped in a huge way the later stages. Derek got caught early and IO wasnt at his A game bprobably under the circumstances. As for me I really wasnt allowed to do anything which I am sorry for.

once nzane made you, it was hard for you to accomplish anything. as long as you stayed out of sight, the thread could be steered in the direction that we needed it to go.

sprinklefurball
05-23-2008, 01:42 AM
i could nullify a vote. when i woke up at 430 it was 5-4 me. rev was asking for who i wanted to nullify. (it would have taken 10 to lynch me ;) )

yours was the surest one not to come off of me so i nullified it. lol
LOL

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:44 AM
Well, another problem all the scum had was, we put too many protectors and bulletproof type townies into the game.

But again, this was to be balanced by the Phoenix Force, in part, because the goal there was to control one town protector and eventually turn her (Jean Grey) into an unblockable killer.

ANd of course, TPF was to be baklanced by the White Queen and the Cuckoos.

Unfortunately that entire thing was just a big mess.

It was planned to be fair, but its our faults as mods for not anticipating the fact that players can't always see the roles as you do, and will often do things differently than what you intended.

This is why making roles or groups contingent upon others is bad. Thats the main lesson I am taking from this, and I think Rev shares my sentiments.

all a mod can do is set the game up. onnce they turn it over to the players it is up to them. the cuckoos gave themselves away also. my only mistake was that i thought blue was one of them at first.

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:44 AM
The signal to noise ratio in this game was horrible, and I like a chatty game! I could not for the life of me sift through all the crap and find the ponies. I was more than willing to follow a more knowledgeable player's lead, but it seemed like we were short on conviction more than once.

I think part of that was sooo many people having already claimed by day 3. Once people think they know who's who, what else is there to discuss.

Beyond that was the problems with one player in particular.

Remember we started out prohibiting Nick and DGL from playing. I swear this game was cursed.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:46 AM
anti, rev, phoenix was the check and balance to me right?

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 01:46 AM
Well, another problem all the scum had was, we put too many protectors and bulletproof type townies into the game.

But again, this was to be balanced by the Phoenix Force, in part, because the goal there was to control one town protector and eventually turn her (Jean Grey) into an unblockable killer.

ANd of course, TPF was to be baklanced by the White Queen and the Cuckoos.

Unfortunately that entire thing was just a big mess.

It was planned to be fair, but its our faults as mods for not anticipating the fact that players can't always see the roles as you do, and will often do things differently than what you intended.

This is why making roles or groups contingent upon others is bad. Thats the main lesson I am taking from this, and I think Rev shares my sentiments.
The PM's are too vague I think alot of times as well.. For example, if MNN's one shot ability was designed to lynch Thanos... A hint of this ability being needed specifically for one person might have made a difference in how he used it... Instead of using it to speed lynch someone, to be used against Thanos, who needed 2/3rds the vote to be lynched.

Somehow to hint well enough to make them realise that the ability is VERY important and needed for a specific reason.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 01:46 AM
anti, rev, phoenix was the check and balance to me right?

MNN.

jbergey_2005
05-23-2008, 01:46 AM
once nzane made you, it was hard for you to accomplish anything. as long as you stayed out of sight, the thread could be steered in the direction that we needed it to go.


You were right... You and Moe were so good early it made my job pretty easy. I just dont feel real good about winning a game in which I couldnt do anything. You guys were great and thanks for the win.....

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:47 AM
The PM's are too vague I think alot of times as well.. For example, if MNN's one shot ability was designed to lynch Thanos... A hint of this ability being needed specifically for one person might have made a difference in how he used it... Instead of using it to speed lynch someone, to be used against Thanos, who needed 2/3rds the vote to be lynched.

Somehow to hint well enough to make them realise that the ability is VERY important and needed for a specific reason.

i think there were more things in there to balance. tds was a protector right? could he kill?

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:48 AM
MNN.

one of them

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 01:48 AM
he was onto me too. cat and mouse game. i think he was going to kill me the night he died. dont know what happened. rev?

Yeah, he was on to you, he never got his PM in until after the night phase ended though. TDS was having trouble with his internet access, before he died. The night you got Akki, he also didn't get him PM in, and he had been up to that point protecting Akki every night.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:48 AM
You were right... You and Moe were so good early it made my job pretty easy. I just dont feel real good about winning a game in which I couldnt do anything. You guys were great and thanks for the win.....

think you killed more players than anyone. lol

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 01:49 AM
You were right... You and Moe were so good early it made my job pretty easy. I just dont feel real good about winning a game in which I couldnt do anything. You guys were great and thanks for the win.....

It's like that Kenny Roger's song... "You got to know when to hold 'em, Know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, and no when to run"

Bassically, you NOT doing anything saved yourself from a lynch. Wallbanger, Blue, several other's with just a hint of you around, would have gone "Why the heck aren't we lynching a for sure thing here?" Fact... several said that anyways... just without you there to bring other's around to that thinkin' saved you from being lynched... IT was essential to be honest. Without your silence this game might have gone a completely different route.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:50 AM
It's like that Kenny Roger's song... "You got to know when to hold 'em, Know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, and no when to run"

Bassically, you NOT doing anything saved yourself from a lynch. Wallbanger, Blue, several other's with just a hint of you around, would have gone "Why the heck aren't we lynching a for sure thing here?" Fact... several said that anyways... just without you there to bring other's around to that thinkin' saved you from being lynched... IT was essential to be honest. Without your silence this game might have gone a completely different route.

agreed

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:51 AM
The PM's are too vague I think alot of times as well.. For example, if MNN's one shot ability was designed to lynch Thanos... A hint of this ability being needed specifically for one person might have made a difference in how he used it... Instead of using it to speed lynch someone, to be used against Thanos, who needed 2/3rds the vote to be lynched.

Somehow to hint well enough to make them realise that the ability is VERY important and needed for a specific reason.

Thanos needed a 2/3 vote after he got all the gems.

The Insta Lynch was basically a day kill, just it gave you a transition into the night phase

(my own personal opinion, day kills shouldn't elad right into a night phase... so X kills Y during the day... the town still has a lynch to do) ((but thats just me :D ))


And Yes Outlaw, the Phoenix could kill you pre gem acquisition.

The only thing that could kill phonix was a 2/3 vote to lynch, The Cuckoos/White Queen finding the TPF and dismissing it, and I think you, with all the gems.

Conversely, TDS as Blackbolt could do a one shot kill that could kill you.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 01:53 AM
squirrel girl?

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:54 AM
Conversely, TDS as Blackbolt could do a one shot kill that could kill you.


This was strongly hinted at in Rev's very first write up.

The "Shh" and Thanos sizing him up as a serious threat.

Somehow people thought he was a Skrull though...

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:55 AM
squirrel girl?

Immune to Lynches and Night Kills.

:eek:

Seriously, she's a bad mother :hush your mouth:

jbergey_2005
05-23-2008, 01:56 AM
think you killed more players than anyone. lol

Maybe, you guys covered me like no ther and it was fun playing with yoiu... You all were the best and saved me me so many times....my only pint on this is that I want to be active and play not hide out.... Maybe I am wrong on the lack of confidence issue but it felt like that..... I have only been lynched ONCE and that is when I was basically a cinfirmed MAFIA don.

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:58 AM
Immune to Lynches and Night Kills.

:eek:

Seriously, she's a bad mother :hush your mouth:

I should clarify.. before people get in an uproar.

This was limited to two occassions. First attempted night kill or lynch on her, she would be saved by a squirrel friend. That squirrel would die.

She only had two squirrels. And after the second attempt she would have left the game out of remorse for her dead furry comrades.

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 02:00 AM
Squirrel Girl was designed to be a town leader.. Unfortunately THT got the role and proceeded to not lead the town.

sprinklefurball
05-23-2008, 02:03 AM
I'm curious but was anything other than the arrows reverb murder in the writeups that was done by minister whitey...

sprinklefurball
05-23-2008, 02:05 AM
Who killed Punisher?

arrows
And who killed Arrows?
Minister Whitey
Who was replaced by the person who had gotten killed by arrows as punisher...
:confused:

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 02:05 AM
I'm curious but was anything other than the arrows reverb murder in the writeups that was done by minister whitey...

Vision was a passive role that, if they player chose, could be made active by making people target him and having their abilities rebound back. Like when MJ tried to track him... he actuallky tracked MJ that night.

Not without some risk of course. 50/50 chance on that. I think it always happened to work every time he was targeted tough.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:05 AM
anti, rev, phoenix was the check and balance to me right?

i think there were more things in there to balance. tds was a protector right? could he kill?

Thanos needed a 2/3 vote after he got all the gems.

The Insta Lynch was basically a day kill, just it gave you a transition into the night phase

(my own personal opinion, day kills shouldn't elad right into a night phase... so X kills Y during the day... the town still has a lynch to do) ((but thats just me :D ))


And Yes Outlaw, the Phoenix could kill you pre gem acquisition.

The only thing that could kill phonix was a 2/3 vote to lynch, The Cuckoos/White Queen finding the TPF and dismissing it, and I think you, with all the gems.

Conversely, TDS as Blackbolt could do a one shot kill that could kill you.

Actually, Anti, Outlaw is right, a Gauntlet wielding Thanos and a full power Phoenix could kill each other. Phoenix never got full power, thus, bigjosh only recieving a nightkill for his troubles. He never found Jean Grey, Jean died.



This was strongly hinted at in Rev's very first write up.

The "Shh" and Thanos sizing him up as a serious threat.

Somehow people thought he was a Skrull though...


And yes, that was a serious hint directly to Blackbolt, how important his night kill was.

The Hammer lynch thing for Namor was more for Phoenix, as if it was ever needed for Thanos, well, Namor would be dead anyway, lol

sprinklefurball
05-23-2008, 02:07 AM
Vision was a passive role that, if they player chose, could be made active by making people target him and having their abilities rebound back. Like when MJ tried to track him... he actuallky tracked MJ that night.

Not without some risk of course. 50/50 chance on that. I think it always happened to work every time he was targeted tough.
Arrows on Night 8 ------you killed him.
nZane on Night 7--------you found out that nZane was town aligned.
mjdgoldeneye on night 6------you tracked mjdgoldeneye back to your house.
There they are.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:15 AM
So I'll start at the beginning.

Like I said I'll give write-up credit to myself and Anti, so you all can see what a great writer he is. The initial writeups here were done by me. I wanted to be more cinamatic with the write-ups for this game. It was tough balancing that with the desire to not give too much away through the writeups. I think me and Anti did a pretty good job of that, hope you all think so too.

New York City


For more than a century, New York City has been one of the world’s centers of commerce and finance. The city holds influence over media, politics, entertainment, and the arts across the world. As one of the most densely populated cities in the world, the city is also rife with criminal opportunity. Ill equipped with an undermanned, and largely unappreciated, police force the city has had its fair share of trouble in trying to protect its populace.

Thus, it is no surprise that the city has also become a world leader in another interesting enterprise.

Superheroes. Individuals with extraordinary gifts that have made it their life’s work to protect others and make the city safe for all.

One such individual can be observed answering to a distress call sent out by a trusted colleague just this morning.

A quiet thoughtful man, one would, on first glance, see nothing but vulnerability. Confined to a wheelchair, the consequence of a previous spinal injury, Professor Charles Xavier is a quite unassuming individual. Without prior knowledge, one would never guess that the bald, frail-looking man was the leader of the world’s most renowned group of mutant superheroes, or that he, in fact, possessed one of the most powerful minds on earth. A mind capable of telepathic feats, most could only dream of.

No, to the unknowing eye, this morning was like any other; one in which there just happened to be a wheelchair bound man entering the Baxter Building.

“Charles; you are the first to arrive. I’m sorry, I have to bother you all like so; but I’ve just picked up a very interesting reading.”


As everyone guessed this was Reed Richards
“No need for apologies, my good friend. I trust that whatever prompted you to contact all of us, must be of utmost importance.”

“Indeed, Professor.

Now, I had been studying a peculiar Supernova (This was a little hint that Phoenix was in the game, and the Supernova would appear in the next night write-up) , on the outreaches of the galaxy for some time now. That however, has taken on much less importance after my findings yesterday.

I think one of the kids, must have altered the settings in the observatory, because when I came to continue research yesterday morning I was staring straight at Jupiter. I was about to reset my bearings and continue my research, when in my periphery I noticed a small flash of light, like a tiny burst of energy, almost like an explosion. Naturally, I had to find out what it was, I never saw another flash, but I immediately began collecting data.

I found no anomalies in the magnetic field, radio signals picked nothing up.

I couldn’t get any readings at all, at first, but I took a chance made some modifications to the reticulating…….

That is, I made some alterations in the system and found the tiniest of spikes in cosmic energy. These spikes have been a regular occurrence now, since I spotted them. There is 1 every 5 minutes or so. There is definitely something mechanical up there.

The flash I saw was most likely a ship jumping into our galaxy, and since it hasn’t moved; I’m willing to bet it’s hiding behind Jupiter, trying to avoid detection.”

“You’re sure this is a ship?”

“Oh, yes. And this is unlike anything we’ve seen, this isn’t mere Shi’ar cloaking technology. I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D. found a way to circumvent that a long time ago.

Let me make this clear though, this isn’t a mere jumpship we're dealing with. You may, or may not know that NASA and S.H.I.E.L.D. have been investigating Jupiter’s moons and have been sending rovers there to study them on a consistent basis. I called in some favors and got one of these rovers to take some pictures.

Take a look, you can only see an outline, but it’s pretty clear this is some kind of vessel and it’s big. Almost a quarter the size of Jupiter in fact. Vessel…….ha!

This is a space station. A station that somehow has the technology to slip by all conventional means of detection. This is beyond Shi’ar capabilities, it’s beyond the capabilities of almost any known beings in the universe actually. I can only think of one, with the intellect and resources to construct this. That’s why I had to get you all here.”

“So you believe, it’s him?”

“I can’t think of any other explanation, Charles.”

“You’ve contacted the others? Just how long do we have?”

“To be honest, it may already be too late.”

“Then I believe preparations will need to be made. Brief the others as they arrive, I’ll need to gather up the X-Men, we’ll need all the help we can get on thi………”

And right on cue, the Baxter Building shook, hit by some unseen force. A less well constructed building would have toppled to its core and if it wasn’t for the improvements and the K-bracing that the owner of the Baxter Building had installed for just such events this building too would have collapsed unto itself.

Although the building held up to the blast, the condition in which it stood was very much up for debate. The windows of the top 10 stories had been blown completely out, and the observatory was now filled with smoke from the blast itself and the various small fires that broke throughout the building.

Surprisingly the scientist was able to brace himself against various objects and stood through the blast, Charles however, being jarred from his wheel chair, lay sprawling on the floor amongst the broken glass and toppled machines. Charles and the scientist shot each other a look when suddenly a thudding footstep resounded throughout the observatory. Louder and louder the footsteps approached, until the hulking being emerged from the smoke. (Well it's no World War Hulk, but Thanos ended up being a formidable foe all the same :p )

“Well, well. Two for the price of one. This is going to be easier than I thought.”

The scientist immediately struck, striking the being with seemingly every limb from every possible angle. The scientist was quick and unrelenting; however, the strikes were nothing but mere annoyance for someone of his attacker’s stature. The being grabbed the scientist by the wrists and flung him to the wall. The scientist stunned began contemplating his next move but before he could take action he was hit with a bolt of energy emanating from the beings hands.

“I’ll deal with you later.

…….


Trying to get into my mind Professor? Two can play that game.”

With the scientist unconscious, the being grabbed Professor Xavier by the throat lifting him into the air. He stared deep into his prey’s eyes and flashed a devious grin. Charles began to squirm in his grasp; a million different thoughts racing through his head, memories of long forgotten days flooded his mind, along with the single most painful sensation he’d ever experienced. As if someone was slowly and methodically deconstructing his entire mind, piece by piece. Desperately the Professor tried to call out for help but he found that he could not as much move a finger let alone yell.

Slowly he felt himself slipping away. Resigned to the fact that this would be his last act, the professor focused all his energy into a call to arms. Friends, acquaintances, and former allies all immediately received his distress call. He may not have been able to stop the attacks but he’d at least warn others of the immense danger that would soon plague them all.

And like that he was gone.

The being held Charles in the air with one hand, and reached inside the professors inside coat pocket with the other. He let the Professors lifeless body hit the floor with a sickening thud and clutched the prize he was searching for. The gem shone with brilliance, as bright as any star, few knew the actual power it possessed and if they did, they would have taken every precaution to keep it out of this particular beings hands. The being let out a laugh knowing he was but one step closer to reaching his ultimate goal.

“That’s one”

The being slowly looked toward the fallen scientist with madness in his eyes; when suddenly he was struck by a powerful blow from behind. (And finally Blackbolt, with a direct hint toward his ability)

Stumbling forward the being turned to face his attacker, and was utterly surprised by who he saw standing before him.

“You? Well, maybe I will have to break a sweat after all. For now……”

The being pressed his index finger to his lips and let out a whisper “....Shhhh” (And another hint at just what a threat to Thanos BB could be)

And in the blink of an eye the being was gone; leaving the scientist and his ally to sort out the mess.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 02:17 AM
Maybe, you guys covered me like no ther and it was fun playing with yoiu... You all were the best and saved me me so many times....my only pint on this is that I want to be active and play not hide out.... Maybe I am wrong on the lack of confidence issue but it felt like that..... I have only been lynched ONCE and that is when I was basically a cinfirmed MAFIA don.

This game you were "Confirmed" Mafia. You managed to stay alive for like day phase's after being "outed". That's saying something in itself.

I just don't want you to feel like you didn't contribute. Your survival was more important then I think you realise...

Some people didn't think all three of us could stay alive.;)

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 02:17 AM
Actually, Anti, Outlaw is right, a Gauntlet wielding Thanos and a full power Phoenix could kill each other. Phoenix never got full power, thus, bigjosh only recieving a nightkill for his troubles. He never found Jean Grey, Jean died.


I forgot that there were different SCales to TPF, just as most people probably don't know that there were three levels to the Gems.

Each had a primary ability. Then they had a stronger, powered ability when Thanos got the Power gem. Finally with all 6 he formed the guantlet and became immune at night, and recruired 2/3+1 to lynch etc etc.

The mind Gem he had to start with was his investigation tool. It could only confirm the presence of anotehr gem on a person.

He also could search a corpse for a gem if the gem holder died by the hand of anotehr faction or was lynched, etc.

He originally could only eitehr use the mind gem or search corpses for one phase. He couldn't do both... until he acquired the soul gem, which would allow him to do both at the same time.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 02:20 AM
Pluss, you contributed in the main thread JB:)

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:23 AM
And part 2 of the initial write-up.

Meanwhile at Stark Tower


He had had a long night out, but what else was new for the philanthropic socialite. Hobnobbing and binge drinking had always been his vices, and last night was a particularly good one, if he did say so himself.

Unfortunately, these vices came with specific repercussions. His mind was clouded and sleep was difficult enough with the onset of a hangover coming on, however things went from bad to worse when the desperate cry for help from a colleague pierced his brain.

He woke with a jolt “Charles!”

The buxom blonde next to him, bolted up as well.

“Jesus Christ, Tony! What the hell are you trying to do; give me a heart attack?!”

Beads of sweat dripped from his brow, as he tried to determine what had just happened. Lost in thought he didn’t even notice the half naked woman sitting next to him.

“Tony!”

Snapping out of it, Tony Stark, rolled out of bed, and made his way to his desk and personal security center. He pressed a few buttons activating dozens of monitors and televisions along the wall. Newscasts from every conceivable television network quickly displayed video of a smoldering, near collapse building. A landmark in this city; there was no mistaking which building it was.

“The Baxter Building……Charles…….”

Tony pressed a few more buttons on his security center, and within seconds wood paneling in the room began to turn and shift, revealing secret compartments, only his eyes were meant to see.

“Ummmmmm…..”

Reminded that he wasn’t alone this morning, Tony turned to find a utterly confused woman staring at him.

“Right, look, last night, I’m sure, was a blast. And I want to thank you….ummmm…..what was your name again?”

“Jen!” she said as she rolled her eyes.

“Right, Jen. Thank you for a lovely evening, really, it was great; I think. Either way, it appears that I have much more important matters to attend to. If you could please let yourself out, the doorman will see to it that you arrive home….wherever that may be….safely.”

Insulted the woman gathered her clothes and before even dressing stormed out of the room. Not that Tony cared nor noticed.

Realizing the stakes of what he feared to have happened Tony once more went back to his preparations. He approached a small safe now revealed by the retracted paneling. His hands worked the dials swiftly and in mere seconds the safe was popped open. He was so consumed by the possibility of one threat that he didn’t even notice the other until it came crashing through his window. (DOOM!)

Tony turned and was startled to see the figure hovering before him. No strangers, Tony pleaded with the figure to help.

“Wait, you have no idea how much danger we are all in……we’ll need to fight together before long…”

Those pleas fell on deaf ears however, as Tony was greeted with a bolt of electricity that hit the man square in the chest; a dead shot to Tony’s infamous injured heart.

“Danger? You must have me confused with someone else.

I Fear No One!

And before long you will all learn to fear me and what I have in store for you and your kind. No longer will you and your associates stand in our way!”

“But…he…is coming…..we’re all……in danger.”

“I don’t know who you are talking about, but I assure you that you are going to die in my hands long before he can do you any harm.”

With that the figure clutched Tony’s throat in his cold metal hands and smiled a cold hard grin as the one they would call Iron Man took in his last breath.

“Now let’s see just what you were up to before I so rudely interrupted.”

The figure opened the safe and basked in the warm yellow glow that emanated from within. He reached in and held the gem in his hands; he knew not of the power of this gem, but knew that if Tony Stark went through such measures to hide it then it would be worth taking.

“It appears we may just have one more trick up our sleeves, in this endeavor.”

And with that the figure was gone. Tony Stark’s remains would be found hours later, as trusted colleagues wondered why he hadn’t answered the scientists earlier distress calls.

The deaths of both Iron Man and Professor Charles Xavier were heavy blows to the superhero community. But in death they would both serve as reminders to the dangers that awaited.

Even more the call to arms sent out as Professor Xavier’s final act would bring hundreds of gifted beings and individuals to the city. The help of which would be greatly needed before all was said and done.

However, with such an eclectic grouping of individuals, it has to be asked, are all of their motives the same?





Imarevenant is dead. He was Professor Charles Xavier (AKA Professor X) Town Aligned Advocator of Mutant Rights

Antithesis is dead. He was Tony Stark (AKA Iron Man) Town Aligned Avenging Socialite

The Gem that Doom retrieved was the Reality Gem; but, contrary to canon, I made the decision that Doom wouldn't be able to effectively use it. I did this because the gems were designed for Thanos and Thanos group only, and considering the chore the Titans undertook to get them I wanted to ensure that they hold most use for them.

Furthermore:

Back when I created a bulk of the roles, the Doom mafia was the main threat and there was a smaller second mafia. Through some brainstorming, me and Anti got the idea to add Thanos to the Doom mafia as their fifth member.

Then we started thinking, Thanos is too big for that, we scraped the second mafia, and totally revamped a good bit of the game so that Thanos was the main threat. As this game is, The Titans weren't designed to be a secondary mafia or secondary threat. They were the main threat to the town, and the main concern was to keep the gems away from him because of the powers he'd gain if he got them all.

The AoE retained the RED status as kind of a homage, to where the game conceptually started but no they weren't the main threat and were more of a second mafia. That said I still think they had a shot at winning things, especially with every single one of the protectors outed on day 2.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:26 AM
This game you were "Confirmed" Mafia. You managed to stay alive for like day phase's after being "outed". That's saying something in itself.

I just don't want you to feel like you didn't contribute. Your survival was more important then I think you realise...

Some people didn't think all three of us could stay alive.;)

It's true Jbergy, if you would have been lynched the day before when the last No Lynch occured, the Titans would have lost the game as they wouldn't have had the numbers. Your win hinged on your night kill.

You were the key to the game at that point, and your silence along with DJ and Outlaws work on putting suspicion on Sprinkle pretty much sealed it for your group.

I know it sucks to just watch and not say anything, but at that point it was the right play.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 02:32 AM
It's true Jbergy, if you would have been lynched the day before when the last No Lynch occured, the Titans would have lost the game as they wouldn't have had the numbers. Your win hinged on your night kill.

You were the key to the game at that point, and your silence along with DJ and Outlaws work on putting suspicion on Sprinkle pretty much sealed it for your group.

I know it sucks to just watch and not say anything, but at that point it was the right play.

seems like i heard that someplace before. at that point we needed you more than dj.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 02:32 AM
seems like i heard that someplace before. at that point we needed you more than dj.

just dont tell him it will hurt his feelings.

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 02:42 AM
Yes the Second Don Originallyw as supposed to be Bucky the Winter Soldier.

The catch there was, if I recall correctly... the group was town aligned but had its own win condition separate from the town.

This is the reason Mystique was town aligned, as she was also in that group. Except in this game she really was town.

I didn't realize Rev's real intentions for Mystique until the votes started and I recalled in the Star Wars game that one little Clone (WHO WAS THE GOOD CLONE DAMNIT!!!!) who was going to be lynched day one because no one believed his claim.

So when you guys did what was essentially a repeat, lynching Jackalbane for telling the truth, I wrote that snotty write up mocking the town. Because I have been there, and I know what it feels like.

That said though, yes, Alas Rev wanted Mystique to be Mislynch bait. heh

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:58 AM
Yes the Second Don Originallyw as supposed to be Bucky the Winter Soldier.

The catch there was, if I recall correctly... the group was town aligned but had its own win condition separate from the town.

This is the reason Mystique was town aligned, as she was also in that group. Except in this game she really was town.

I didn't realize Rev's real intentions for Mystique until the votes started and I recalled in the Star Wars game that one little Clone (WHO WAS THE GOOD CLONE DAMNIT!!!!) who was going to be lynched day one because no one believed his claim.

So when you guys did what was essentially a repeat, lynching Jackalbane for telling the truth, I wrote that snotty write up mocking the town. Because I have been there, and I know what it feels like.

That said though, yes, Alas Rev wanted Mystique to be Mislynch bait. heh


That said: I love the character of Mystique and have her entire run sitting in my office. Don't get it wrong I gave her a legitimate reason for joining the town that stayed true to her character. Contrary to popular belief she isn't just some chick who does evil things for the sake of being evil, and she's definitely not some blind follower of Magneto, although she has joined him on many occasion.

Even as townie she had a specific win condition that stays true to her character.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 03:10 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19.../marvelnq7.jpg

They convened in the center of New York City, still reeling from the death of two of their own.
They still didn’t know the motives of the town’s attackers but there were those among the masses who were adept at speculation. Back and forth the town argued with each other over whom may have committed these crimes and for what reason. Until two stuck out among them.

“Who do you suppose is Blue?” they asked.

“Wait you don’t know the colors of the town. If you aren’t with us you must be against us” the masses fired back.

“What about pink? It’s the color of my underwear,” shouted some masked man.

“I know, I know, there is a good chance that they are town, so let’s lynch them and see what happens!”

The crowd turned and looked hard at this person. Someone mumbled, “get a rope.”

Suddenly the speaker realized how quickly the crowd had turned. “Wait, Wait. Hear me out first!”

The townspeople paused and listened to the story.

“Cuckoo? Ya mean like the clock?!?! What in the hell would a Cuckoo have to do with this tragedy?!?!


What in the hell indeed?

Shamelessposer is dead.

He was Pheobe Cuckoo Town Aligned Protégé of the White Queen

Ah, the first day lynch. Shameless got many things about his PM wrong including which of his sisters were dead and such. I never wrote anything about his sisters being dead in his PM oddly enough.


Shamelessposer
Being the clone daughter of Emma Frost is not always easy. Sure you have your sisters and together you can control people’s thoughts and are capable of some truly amazing feats. However, like your mother, trouble is always near by, and once again you, along with your sister and mother, have been thrust into the fire.

You are Pheobe Cuckoo Town Aligned Protégé of the White Queen

You and your sister foresaw an event which could destroy this town. Both of you, determined to avoid this event, are on the search for the two individuals that could bring this incident to pass. Unfortunately, because you are apart from the other 3 Stepford Cuckoos your psychic abilities are not at their best and you could not determine just who you are looking for and thus you must do this blindly. Each night PM the name of a person you’d like to probe, and you will be notified if the individual is the one you are looking for.

You can talk with your mother and sister out of the thread; they are:

<Trypio> Celeste Cuckoo
<Ya Its Me> Emma Frost



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

So, first this game was not set in a specific time frame. I did stay away from any Civil War and Post Civil War stuff however, as Moe has a Marvel Civil War game in the works, and I did not keep up with the Civil War well enough to base a game off of it.

All I intended to do was create a story and character roles that captured my love for the comics, that's pretty much as simple as it gets.

As for Phoebe, THT was right, they aren't able to see the future and the event they saw was only because of their connection to Phoenix. I wasn't sure anyone would realize that, figured Moe would actually. The two they were looking for were in fact The Phoenix force and Jean Grey.

Specifically, Shameless (Phoebe) was looking for Jean. If he had found Jean before being taken over by Phoenix she'd just be notified that Astil was one of the two she was looking for. If Phoenix found Jean after that, Shameless would have been notified of Astil's identity. Yes I was putting them into a position where they had to decide whether or not they should call out Astil beforehand, thus making it obvious who was Jean for The Phoenix.

They were the first line of defense against Dark Phoenix coming, but they had another purpose that would have manifested if Dark Phoenix was unleashed. iIt never happened though. But I'll get to that once we get to Trypio and Ya.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 03:13 AM
Night 1

Brooklyn

First thing first, there is no jason, and this first section is just a bit of exposition to announce that the Phoenix (BIGJOSH) is here. Once again we come back to the Supernova, which is really just The Phoenix Force comign to earth.

There is also a direct link to the story arc Phoenix: Endsong, where The Phoenix Force takes the form of a firefly as it looks for Scott and Jean.

Jason was an unusual young child. Some would call him brilliant, others just thought of him as odd. He paid no attention to what others said of him however. Truth be told he didn't consider himself to fall into either label, no, to him, he was just curious. Curious about how the world worked and what made people and objects behave in the manner they do.

On this night he was curious about the stars. Sitting atop the roof of the apartment complex in which he and his parents lived a million different thoughts ran through his mind as he gazed at the wonders above. What made them twinkle the way they did? How did giant balls of gas radiate and put out such magnificent light? Why were some brighter than others?

In particular why did this one star shine so brightly red?

The star emanated a bright red light that Jason was sure could be seen the world over. It was mesmerizing, intoxicating, he basked in the amazement of what he was witnessing; when suddenly the light began to grow. As big as two stars now; three; four. How could this be? This was some kind of comet, or asteroid, a Supernova heading right this way. Jason's palms clammed up and his bones began to quake as he came to the realization that this was no mere star. Bigger and bigger the red hot light grew. He couldn't turn himself away, feeling the heat, like fire, brush across his skin.

And in a blink of an eye it was gone.

Nervous laughter filled the air as Jason was overcome with relief, wondering if it was all just a dream, did he really see what he thought he saw. One last look into the night sky, but no such light was to be found. Perhaps it was better to ignore your curiosity when it came to certain things he thought.

Alone and scared, "that's enough stargazing for one night" he said to himself as he started toward the stairwell.

"Oh, hello, little firefly"

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theoutlaw321 using the mind gem to see if Gonvick was holding a Gem, Outlaw pegged him day one, after the Blue/Green townie fiasco

This was all Anti's btw, I gave him the ball with regard to the Thanos stuff and he ran with it. Really wrote the stuff pertaining to Thanos well, if you ask me.

He with the grim visage stared out at the barren landscape. Blood had already been shed, and more would come. Cities, planets, galaxies, the entire cosmos would drown in a vast sea of it, an unrelenting sea of blood.

Despite his awareness of what soon must follow at his own doing, he felt neither joy nor sadness. In fact, he felt very little anymore. In the past, observers might accuse him of being directed by malice, or lust. But this time it was different; this time the fuel that drove the engine of his dark designs was…


He held the Gem in his hand and cleared his mind, and imagined the being before him. Almost instantly he knew, that he had found one that he was looking for.

It was then that he turned his malignant gaze towards the stone in his hand, and he smiled in anticipation.

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Sadly, this is something that should have never taken place, and if not for TJROH running into the thread during the night phase and basically announcing he was Mafia, it wouldn't have. Nevermore had originally decided on sending Lostrelms to kill DJ, night 1. But decided to bus TJ hoping there was a watcher or something at Akki's or a tracker on TJ.

Killing DJ night 1 would have totally changed this game, would have been interesting to see where things went without the "list"

The two protecting Akki were, Blasphemywebleed (Captain America) and THEDEMONSEED (Blackbolt)

He knew what he had to do.

If they were who they said they were, it was more than worth the risk.

He watched him conversing with another. Waiting, from the shadows, for the opportunity to strike, unaware that their were others in the shadows as well.

The other having left, it was now time to strike. No use for subtlety, he burst through the wall, catching his target off guard. A few swift strikes and the man didn't even have time to put up a decent fight. He grabbed his prey and lifted him high into the air, when suddenly another man entered the room.

"I suggest you put him down; no one is going to die while I'm around"

The attacker smirked and threw a swift punch that would have hit the mark if something had not got in the way. The sound of metal on metal clanged in the air as the two squared off. Back and forth they went, until the attacker managed to get an upper hand. The tide was turning until yet another entered the fray. From the attackers blindside the third man struck with a powerful blow knocking the attacker through a wall to the outside of the building. The third man looked to the other and with a nod the two followed the attacker to the outside.

They found the attacker stunned but not out. The two took turns subduing the attacker knowing full well it would take all they had to fully put the man down. Satisfied, they finally returned to check on the one who'd originally been attacked in the first place.

Never noticing the one watching from a distance.

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Bigjosh checking to see if theoulaw321 was Jean Grey

I thought I was dead......


In a million pieces


Somethings wrong Somethings missing


So hungry......


.....so weak.....


what am I looking for....


....w-who....


....am I looking for


You?


Strange man


So powerful.......so.......


No, not you.


**********************************************

Sprinklefurball pulling a stakeout on Supermareo (Nightcrawler).

War Journal

Micro got a tip about a crazed killer making his way to New York from the west coast. This is before all hell broke loose and chaos swept the city. There are about a million of these damn super powered morons here now. Whatever. Let them kill each other, while they show off their "gifts." I'll continue to protect the average guy from the monsters like the one I'm searching for.

I asked around, talked to people that know these things. Seems there has been reports of someone, or something, frightening the people of this particular neighborhood. Good place to start, but, I certainly didn't think the trail would lead me here. Nice place, if you go for that sort of thing. I don't.

Quick survey of the surrounding area and things are all clear; time for a closer look.

I approached the perimeter careful not to make a sound. Peak in through the window, hard to see through stained glass, but I catch enough to know who I'm looking at.

This isn't the monster I'm looking for. Time to ask around.

We'll see what tomorrow brings.

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Arrows killing TJ. I laughed when he sent in the PM, and said we should have expected it. I really didn't think he'd so blatantly taunt TJ in the thread then kill him; and then boast about it all the next day without getting lynched.

He had watched the attack fail, and witnessed them subdue the hulk of a man that layed before him. What the downed mans motives were for attacking the other was none of his business. He had his own plan and tonight would set that plan in motion. Tonight he would make a statement.

He had taken beatings before, he'd recover he knew full well. Just need to rest, recuperate, and he'd be back for revenge on the two who'd done this to him. His mind was beginning to come to, it was time to get out of here before the pair who'd done this to him came back looking for answers. His mind was willing but he found himself unable to move. Blackness surrounded him, a cold black substance engulfing his every limb. Unsure of what was happening he looked up and that's when he saw it. A creature, it looked like something out of a nightmare.

"I'm going to eat your brains!!!" was the last thing TJROH ever heard.

Doh!, notice the mistake. I screwed up night one and forgot the "We" instead of "I" for Venom :o

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This was his city, and he made it a point of pride to ensure that nothing happened in it without his knowledge. DJ surveying Midnightnicks.

He perched on the rooftops watching the house of one he was sure would see plenty of action.

It was all a blur, it seemed like half the town decided to congregate at the same house. Some were there with good intentions other's for their own means. Some stayed in the shadows (Moe, Foolinc, and The Shape) others stood watch in the front (Astil and I Effin Rule)

Finally two individuals made their moves (Moe and The Shape), and made it inside. He heard a scuffle, things falling over, glass breaking but there was no way to tell what exactly was happening inside. When suddenly an object burst through the window, an object? Or a man? It was all too fast to get a sense of, flying off over the distance. (Crychon carrying Midnightnick to safety) In any event the house was suddenly silent, the two who had made their way inside snuck out and went their own separate ways. The others who remained on the outside could see that nothing more would happen and slowly trickled back to where ever they came from.

He took stock of who he could identify, knowing full well the knowledge he held could be the key to unlocking this whole situation.


**********************************************

Blue feeding off of Astil

She was starving, hadn't eaten in days.

She wandered the streets aimlessly looking for something to end this hunger. Then she saw her opportunity. Her victim was also out, doing what she did not know, nor did she care. Her only thought, her only need was to feed.

Her victim was intently going about her business unaware of the danger that lurked behind her. Suddenly she sprung, tackled her victim from behind hands clenched to her victims face. She reveled in the raw power she could feel surging throughout her body as she drained her victim of all her energy. Finally she felt "full."

Slowly the girl came to the realization of what she had done, consumed by the all encompasing need she never stopped to think about what her actions meant.

"Sorry, but you'll be alright soon enough", she finally said as she left her emaciated victim laying in the street.


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TJROH is dead. He was En Sabah Nur (AKA Apocalypse) Alliance of Evil Aligned Immortal Conqueror

Astil has been emaciated and can not participate in the thread for the following day and night phases

Actions Not Highlighted:

Lostrelms did nothing, as his ability couldn't take effect yet
Mjdgoldeneye tracked Trypio
Trypio investigated The Shape to determine if she was one of them.
Supermareo saved his switches
The Aussie did nothing
Akki gave Gonvick The Ultimate Nullifier
TJROH was going to try and recruit Astil
Jackalbane impersonated The Shape
Derek B protected fellow Blood Brother Moe Hunter

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 03:21 AM
TJROH
You are the Eternal One, the High Lord, the most powerful Mutant on the planet. Playing second fiddle in an evil alliance does not sound like the thing for you, yet, you have joined the Alliance of Evil nonetheless. For what purposes, well that is a secret you keep from even your so called collaborators

You are En Sabah Nur (AKA Apocalypse) Alliance of Evil Aligned Immortal Conqueror

You’ve never been one to be a follower and that’s not going to start now. While you admit that Doctor Doom’s plan is well put together you will not sit idly by as he crowns himself ruler of the world. No, that’s your ambition and you’ve already had practice in trying to bring about the Age of Apocalypse.

In order to usurp Doctor Doom and take control of what you feel is rightfully yours you will have help, although, you’ll have to find it amongst the town. Each night you can search among the town members for two individuals who have served you in the past. However, you may only recruit one of these individuals to your cause, choose wisely. Once found you will be able to communicate with your apprentice and plot the downfall of one Victor Von Doom. Upon Doom’s death you will take leadership of the Alliance of Evil and your recruited helper will be revealed to any remaining members of the Alliance.

You can talk to the members of The Alliance of Evil outside of the thread. The other members are:

<Nevermore> Victor Von Doom (Leader)
<Slim Jim> Magneto
<Foolinc> Mephisto
<Lostrelms> Kang the Conqueror



You are Alliance of Evil Aligned and thus come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when Victor Von Doom is dead AND the number of members in the Alliance of Evil out-number all other players in the game.

My mafia usurper role. LOL, Nevermore asked if TJ was a traitor night 1 actually. This is the first member I created for the Doom led mafia. Figured that with all the big bads in the AoE one had to be a traitor and Apocalypse fit the bill.

The two he could recruit, were Famine (Bluestar) and Angel (Crychon), both of them being original members of the four horsemen.

Had TJ ever had the chance to recruit one of them, he and his recruitee, would have changed alignments to Age of Apocalypse Aligned. TJ would have retained his ability to talk to the AoE, however, his subordinate wouldn't. If Apoc were to be alive when Doom died, the AoE would have changed names to the Age of Apocalypse. However, Venom had other plans.

And Anti was correct, upon recruitment Famine (Bluestar) would have been able to feed every night, while Angel (Crychon) would have given the Age of Apocalypse an extra night kill :eek:

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 03:51 AM
see blue. with the power of the mind gem, i could see things when even you couldnt. i knew you were supposed to be scum. even if you didnt. lol

BlueStar
05-23-2008, 03:58 AM
Would have been cool....

I actually was right about a lot of things during the game...

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 04:26 AM
Would have been cool....

I actually was right about a lot of things during the game...

yes you were. ;)

Crychon
05-23-2008, 06:15 AM
I'll be around in a bit to answer questions and go through the write-ups and post roles.

Right now I have to spend some time with my wife, before she gets pissed off

One question answered. Because of the required vote needed to lynch Thanos (2/3 + 1) and the fact his kills were unstoppable, there was no way for the town to pull this one out. Thus, rather than drag this out another 4 day phases, I figured it was best to announce the winner.

Ah, so that's why I felt so useless for the second half of the game. :(

This is probably the worst game I've played in a while, methinks, I got some things right, but I got a LOT of things real wrong too... Oh well...

nZane
05-23-2008, 06:41 AM
I hate you all. So very very much.

Still, I think this was far and away my best game (not saying much, but still). There was just something off about both DJ and Outlaw in the latter half of this game, but they both did a killer job (pun intended) of deflecting me away from them, so I didn't stand much of a chance. Oh, and Rev and Anti can clarify this for me, but I'm pretty sure that my Spider Sense was only a one-shot. Things weren't quite as unbalanced for the red mafia as Lost thought. :D

Regardless of how public opinion plays out for this game and despite the fact that things dragged a bit towards the end, this was still far and away the most fun I've ever had in mafia, so I would definitely like to thank Rev and Anti for that! But I do think I'm about mafia'd out, so yeah. Consider this my retirement.

... which I figure will probably last until the next sign-up thread opens, but still! :p

Destiny
05-23-2008, 06:56 AM
Bah, a PGO and not even targeted once. Oh well, probably my own fault.

Good game Rev, Anti. Thanks very much.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 06:59 AM
I hate you all. So very very much.

Still, I think this was far and away my best game (not saying much, but still). There was just something off about both DJ and Outlaw in the latter half of this game, but they both did a killer job (pun intended) of deflecting me away from them, so I didn't stand much of a chance. Oh, and Rev and Anti can clarify this for me, but I'm pretty sure that my Spider Sense was only a one-shot. Things weren't quite as unbalanced for the red mafia as Lost thought. :D

Regardless of how public opinion plays out for this game and despite the fact that things dragged a bit towards the end, this was still far and away the most fun I've ever had in mafia, so I would definitely like to thank Rev and Anti for that! But I do think I'm about mafia'd out, so yeah. Consider this my retirement.

... which I figure will probably last until the next sign-up thread opens, but still! :p

We still love you nZane! :D

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 06:59 AM
Bah, a PGO and not even targeted once. Oh well, probably my own fault.

Good game Rev, Anti. Thanks very much.

If it would have played out you would have been targetted! :D

i effin rule
05-23-2008, 07:27 AM
I knew I had things worked out before I died. Hence the reason I openly asked for protection from Crychon. Unfortunately that didn't work out so well. It was a good game though, very well put together from what I can tell. These roles have me very excited for what Rev and I might come up with for SW2.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 07:29 AM
I knew I had things worked out before I died. Hence the reason I openly asked for protection from Crychon. Unfortunately that didn't work out so well. It was a good game though, very well put together from what I can tell. These roles have me very excited for what Rev and I might come up with for SW2.

:( :(

Nevermore
05-23-2008, 08:42 AM
Who said Outlaw was most suspicious?

*Raises hand*

Who said DJ came back as scum?

*Raises hand*

...just because one is scum, does not mean he should be ignored :rolleyes:.

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

Mr T Jobs To Me
05-23-2008, 08:44 AM
Argh! Good game, Rev. I really had no faith in the town after I died, you townies who made it to the end (with the exception of 'Banger and nZane, and sprinkle who was crippled being the mafia's patsy) should be ashamed of yourselves!

Outlaw, dj, and especially jbergey, well played. I was cursing the brilliance of your "lay low" tactic from the grave. But yeah, outlaw as a don= always dangerous.

Oh yeah, and I'd like to take this time to also present THT with the award for "Second Worst "Great" Mafia Player of All Time". He didn't make me want to shatter my computer screen with a headbutt and disembowel myself with a shard of the glass like DGL did, but holy crap did he manage to be annoying while sucking!

nZane
05-23-2008, 08:56 AM
Who said Outlaw was most suspicious?

*Raises hand*

Who said DJ came back as scum?

*Raises hand*

...just because one is scum, does not mean he should be ignored :rolleyes:.

Quote The Raven
NevermoreThat's just it, though: pretty much EVERYONE thought Outlaw was suspicious. And a good number of us thought the same of DJ as well. It's just that they both did a fantastic job of deflecting attention off of themselves and on to others, which is exactly what scum are supposed to do.

And I have to give special congrats to JB, too. I know all too well that laying low is one of the better strategies scum can have, but that it also takes some of the fun out of playing as well. So job well done, my man!

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Who said Outlaw was most suspicious?

*Raises hand*

Who said DJ came back as scum?

*Raises hand*

...just because one is scum, does not mean he should be ignored :rolleyes:.

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

If you guys would have just "donated" a spokesman, worked with the town just a little bit (Till Thanos was dead), AS I OFFERED, things would have gone completely different.

You killed me though.... What you expect me to do upon returning? Even if I ended up townie, I can tell you I would have gone full throttle on you guys.

However, In the Spirit of SW Mafia 2 being around the corner...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0ka5aGnwg


Figure you would get a kick out of that one Nevermore, lol.

i effin rule
05-23-2008, 09:05 AM
If you guys would have just "donated" a spokesman, worked with the town just a little bit (Till Thanos was dead), AS I OFFERED, things would have gone completely different.

You killed me though.... What you expect me to do upon returning? Even if I ended up townie, I can tell you I would have gone full throttle on you guys.

However, In the Spirit of SW Mafia 2 being around the corner...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0ka5aGnwg


Figure you would get a kick out of that one Nevermore, lol.

Around the corner is a bit of a stretch, lol I think there are 10 games in front of it.

The Aussie
05-23-2008, 09:06 AM
Oh yeah, and I'd like to take this time to also present THT with the award for "Second Worst "Great" Mafia Player of All Time". He didn't make me want to shatter my computer screen with a headbutt and disembowel myself with a shard of the glass like DGL did, but holy crap did he manage to be annoying while sucking!

Seconded, douchebaggery was afoot with THT. You'd think that naming his account after one of my favourite anime characters (Vash the Stampede aka "The Humanoid Typhoon from Trigun) would make me tolerate him but damn.

Imagine if they took part in the same game...

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 09:22 AM
Around the corner is a bit of a stretch, lol I think there are 10 games in front of it.

Still, the roles were great for the Mafia in it. I really thought that game was underated overall, because of all the shananigan's going on.

Most of these "Themed" games I didn't like to start with, but some of them were completely outstanding, above the grain. I believe SW was one of them. Can't wait to see how you guys put together that last movies.

i effin rule
05-23-2008, 09:25 AM
Still, the roles were great for the Mafia in it. I really thought that game was underated overall, because of all the shananigan's going on.

Most of these "Themed" games I didn't like to start with, but some of them were completely outstanding, above the grain. I believe SW was one of them. Can't wait to see how you guys put together that last movies.

With the team of Rev, outlaw, and myself, I think we have every possibility for something really cool here. I'm really excited about it and hopefully will blow SW1 out of the water.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 09:32 AM
With the team of Rev, outlaw, and myself, I think we have every possibility for something really cool here. I'm really excited about it and hopefully will blow SW1 out of the water.

IMPOSSIBLE!

It's going to be fun seeing what you do to try thought, :D .

I liked this one too. Wasn't to fond of dieing early, and turning... but I liked the team I got stuck with.

In fact, last two games I really liked. Nevermore and Outlaw, was a blast.

Going to have to pass up a couple of them though, I have work I have to get done on other things, with the release of the new Game coming out....

Way behind schedule there.

foolinc
05-23-2008, 09:38 AM
I can't beleive everyone was so happy with DJ "coming back from the dead," and trusting outlaw was pretty stupid as well.

On a side note I thought about claiming Angel and would have claimed with the "correct" role. Though looking back I should have claimed Stature or Antman.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 09:43 AM
I can't beleive everyone was so happy with DJ "coming back from the dead," and trusting outlaw was pretty stupid as well.

On a side note I thought about claiming Angel and would have claimed with the "correct" role. Though looking back I should have claimed Stature or Antman.

I loved the Avator change, right in the middle of conversation.

BlueStar
05-23-2008, 09:48 AM
Argh! Good game, Rev. I really had no faith in the town after I died, you townies who made it to the end (with the exception of 'Banger and nZane, and sprinkle who was crippled being the mafia's patsy) should be ashamed of yourselves!

Outlaw, dj, and especially jbergey, well played. I was cursing the brilliance of your "lay low" tactic from the grave. But yeah, outlaw as a don= always dangerous.



Hmmm...I'm surprised how many actually gave Outlaw the benefit of the doubt at that point.

/shakes head.

Not me!

DJ did a brilliant job though...

Lostrelms
05-23-2008, 09:59 AM
I hate you all. So very very much.

Things weren't quite as unbalanced for the red mafia as Lost thought. :D


In essense they were, from my point of view, you have to see that i failed on 2 straight night kills, and had no way of knowing why, or how. that from my perspective at the time looks pretty damn unbalenced.


However

EVERY SINGLE thing i said about Outlaw was SPOT ON.


EVERY BIT.

That makes me feel real good.

and following DJ so blindly? Yep, see, had people actually listened to me, Mastered was convinced. I almost had you convinced Nzane. but you guys just have more respect for DJ then me in games like this, but thats because ive never had a really good game...


untill this one.

I personally think i played a flawless game, had an iron clad roleclaim, HANDED you Outlaw as a threat, handed Bigjosh to you...

Anyway, i tried to Kil outlaw because i honestly thought he was Thanos, and i kn ew my only chance to dwindle the numbers down and actually have a chance at winning, was if Thanos was dead. I couldnt kill him, so i tried to hget you guys to lynch him.

Wallbanger
05-23-2008, 10:10 AM
My feel is the game design was fairly well balanced (though there is always room for improvement), and the town shot itself in the foot early in such a way that it never recovered, which I think added to the perceptions of imbalance.

I also tend to think the game was too 'busy' (i.e. too many high powered abilities and conditional events) in many ways. Yes it fits the theme, but it's also my primary complaint about most Marvel comics.

Wallbanger
05-23-2008, 10:17 AM
Oh, and Squirrel Girl designed to be a town leader? Come on. (Not the role, the choice of character.)

That's the other thing. The theme put casual fans and non-fans at a disadvantage. Anti made a nice speech about how Mystique isn't really evil and it may be true, but if all I've ever read is a few X-men titles from the 90's and watched the animated series and seen the movies, I'll never buy that Mystique is town.

The game was designed with comic geeks in mind. The Marvel universe is simply too big (and too self-contradictory) to hope to pick it up and sound credible via wiki-fu.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 10:19 AM
In essense they were, from my point of view, you have to see that i failed on 2 straight night kills, and had no way of knowing why, or how. that from my perspective at the time looks pretty damn unbalenced.


However

EVERY SINGLE thing i said about Outlaw was SPOT ON.


EVERY BIT.

That makes me feel real good.

and following DJ so blindly? Yep, see, had people actually listened to me, Mastered was convinced. I almost had you convinced Nzane. but you guys just have more respect for DJ then me in games like this, but thats because ive never had a really good game...


untill this one.

I personally think i played a flawless game, had an iron clad roleclaim, HANDED you Outlaw as a threat, handed Bigjosh to you...

Anyway, i tried to Kil outlaw because i honestly thought he was Thanos, and i kn ew my only chance to dwindle the numbers down and actually have a chance at winning, was if Thanos was dead. I couldnt kill him, so i tried to hget you guys to lynch him.

Several of the targets were already openly in the thread as Bulletproof or PGO status... Already.

Like I said, I aggree about trying to balance two groups, being hard, but your making it out worse then it was....

Outlaw's group could ONLY KILL Gem holders. They couldn't go after you guys, unless you had a gem. They couldn't go after protectors (and the protectors were solid before Thanos got his gauntlet completed).

The bullet proof people were there for everyone, including Arrows, and Thanos group (till of course his Gauntlet was fixed).

The problem is you didn't read or something... Wallbanger was already the PGO/Bulletproof guy before you ever attacked him. The kill on Outlaw was way late...IF you knew he was Thanos.

People were protected... you went after a gem holder that was completely protected the first night..> We insisted on that.

Just saying, your not being fair about EVERYTHING in what your saying.

Just give a list, of all the activities, and I guarrentee you everyone will see why you failed. It's easy to blame it on all the "Bullet Proof" townies, but seeing as there were plenty of options left for JB at the end here, I don't see how that should have made it "Impossible" for you...

As Outlaw named them in the thread.. "Hard" targets and "Soft" targets. These are the things you should have (and I imagine you did to some extent) kept record of.... DO NOT make Hulk Mad. DON'T Attack Wolverine. Keep away from Squirrel Girl...

If you read up on Squirrel Girl, for example... She is like the only one in the game that has beat Thanos 1 vs. 1 with him at full power (Not counting Gauntlet), multiple times. Black Bolt thinks of her as one of the great POWER's to be dealt with, right up there with Thor, Iron Man and Hulk. All of this was on her Wikki page (Marvel Wikki).

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 10:26 AM
My feel is the game design was fairly well balanced (though there is always room for improvement), and the town shot itself in the foot early in such a way that it never recovered, which I think added to the perceptions of imbalance.

I also tend to think the game was too 'busy' (i.e. too many high powered abilities and conditional events) in many ways. Yes it fits the theme, but it's also my primary complaint about most Marvel comics.

/nod... TDS was able to Protect ONE Of them.. I figure that was whoever decided to be spokesperson for the group... NOT TWO or THREE of them.

masterded
05-23-2008, 11:53 AM
So when TDS said he would die if he protected scum was that true and just didn't apply to Thanos or was he assuming things? Really the last Illuminati member saying Outlaw couldn’t be Thanos was a huge blessing for them.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 12:36 PM
In essense they were, from my point of view, you have to see that i failed on 2 straight night kills, and had no way of knowing why, or how. that from my perspective at the time looks pretty damn unbalenced.


However

EVERY SINGLE thing i said about Outlaw was SPOT ON.


EVERY BIT.

That makes me feel real good.

and following DJ so blindly? Yep, see, had people actually listened to me, Mastered was convinced. I almost had you convinced Nzane. but you guys just have more respect for DJ then me in games like this, but thats because ive never had a really good game...


untill this one.

I personally think i played a flawless game, had an iron clad roleclaim, HANDED you Outlaw as a threat, handed Bigjosh to you...

Anyway, i tried to Kil outlaw because i honestly thought he was Thanos, and i kn ew my only chance to dwindle the numbers down and actually have a chance at winning, was if Thanos was dead. I couldnt kill him, so i tried to hget you guys to lynch him.

Several of the targets were already openly in the thread as Bulletproof or PGO status... Already.

Like I said, I aggree about trying to balance two groups, being hard, but your making it out worse then it was....

Outlaw's group could ONLY KILL Gem holders. They couldn't go after you guys, unless you had a gem. They couldn't go after protectors (and the protectors were solid before Thanos got his gauntlet completed).

The bullet proof people were there for everyone, including Arrows, and Thanos group (till of course his Gauntlet was fixed).

The problem is you didn't read or something... Wallbanger was already the PGO/Bulletproof guy before you ever attacked him. The kill on Outlaw was way late...IF you knew he was Thanos.

People were protected... you went after a gem holder that was completely protected the first night..> We insisted on that.

Just saying, your not being fair about EVERYTHING in what your saying.

Just give a list, of all the activities, and I guarrentee you everyone will see why you failed. It's easy to blame it on all the "Bullet Proof" townies, but seeing as there were plenty of options left for JB at the end here, I don't see how that should have made it "Impossible" for you...

As Outlaw named them in the thread.. "Hard" targets and "Soft" targets. These are the things you should have (and I imagine you did to some extent) kept record of.... DO NOT make Hulk Mad. DON'T Attack Wolverine. Keep away from Squirrel Girl...

If you read up on Squirrel Girl, for example... She is like the only one in the game that has beat Thanos 1 vs. 1 with him at full power (Not counting Gauntlet), multiple times. Black Bolt thinks of her as one of the great POWER's to be dealt with, right up there with Thor, Iron Man and Hulk. All of this was on her Wikki page (Marvel Wikki).


I would just like to point out, that nobody in this game was completely bulletproof, Not a single Role. Even Thanos and Phoenix had their checks, mainly each other.

I'll get to the roles today, and you'll see what I mean.

So when TDS said he would die if he protected scum was that true and just didn't apply to Thanos or was he assuming things? Really the last Illuminati member saying Outlaw couldn’t be Thanos was a huge blessing for them.

TDS was just assuming this. It wasn't in his role PM, he never asked me about it; I think he just assumed that he couldn't protect scum and that hurt the town as it gave Outlaw yet another bullet to fire with. BTW, the RNG loves it some outlaw321. It was ridiculous. :p

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 12:48 PM
In essense they were, from my point of view, you have to see that i failed on 2 straight night kills, and had no way of knowing why, or how. that from my perspective at the time looks pretty damn unbalenced.


However

EVERY SINGLE thing i said about Outlaw was SPOT ON.


EVERY BIT.

That makes me feel real good.

and following DJ so blindly? Yep, see, had people actually listened to me, Mastered was convinced. I almost had you convinced Nzane. but you guys just have more respect for DJ then me in games like this, but thats because ive never had a really good game...


untill this one.

I personally think i played a flawless game, had an iron clad roleclaim, HANDED you Outlaw as a threat, handed Bigjosh to you...

Anyway, i tried to Kil outlaw because i honestly thought he was Thanos, and i kn ew my only chance to dwindle the numbers down and actually have a chance at winning, was if Thanos was dead. I couldnt kill him, so i tried to hget you guys to lynch him.

I also want to add, what you did when you knew you were lynched, and then carried on with even after Anti posted one half of the lynch write-up was just sad, to be perfectly honest.

You had the whole day to chime in and say you targetted Outlaw, and instead, sat on it. Then when outlaw and dj did their job; getting you lynched and protecting that information from being released, you go ahead and blow it.

That was completely unfair to the other group who played that day phase out perfectly only to see you sabotage it when you should have kept quiet. I wanted to say something in the thread while you were doing it, but decided that any word from the mod about it would just validate the stuff you said about targetting Outlaw. It was just poor sportsmanship and I hope that from now on, we can just take our lumps without spoiling things for the other people playing.

And the carrying on about the imbalance of the game. You said it here in the bolded part. You didn't have the background information to truly determine if the game was as horribly imbalanced as you said it was (Should some things have been tweaked, oh yeah, I'll cop to that).

However, what is the point of ranting and raving in the thread and spoiling things for the players and quite frankly the mods as well. If you are fustrated and believe the game was screwed up at the time of your death, fine. PM the mod, ask questions about the game, wait for the roles and see why things may have been set up for the way they were before bringing down the mood in the game thread.

That's just my .02 on the subject about the ranting about games in the thread while the game is still being played.

BlueStar
05-23-2008, 12:57 PM
How many times did I ask if I could feed of someone, Rev? About a zillion times? :D

Loved the game, really! I even bought the first series of Age of Apocalypse yesterday in a specialized book store. Magento's a good guy?

Lostrelms
05-23-2008, 01:05 PM
I also want to add, what you did when you knew you were lynched, and then carried on with even after Anti posted one half of the lynch write-up was just sad, to be perfectly honest.

You had the whole day to chime in and say you targetted Outlaw, and instead, sat on it. Then when outlaw and dj did their job; getting you lynched and protecting that information from being released, you go ahead and blow it.

That was completely unfair to the other group who played that day phase out perfectly only to see you sabotage it when you should have kept quiet. I wanted to say something in the thread while you were doing it, but decided that any word from the mod about it would just validate the stuff you said about targetting Outlaw. It was just poor sportsmanship and I hope that from now on, we can just take our lumps without spoiling things for the other people playing.

And the carrying on about the imbalance of the game. You said it here in the bolded part. You didn't have the background information to truly determine if the game was as horribly imbalanced as you said it was (Should some things have been tweaked, oh yeah, I'll cop to that).

However, what is the point of ranting and raving in the thread and spoiling things for the players and quite frankly the mods as well. If you are fustrated and believe the game was screwed up at the time of your death, fine. PM the mod, ask questions about the game, wait for the roles and see why things may have been set up for the way they were before bringing down the mood in the game thread.

That's just my .02 on the subject about the ranting about games in the thread while the game is still being played.

Thats just it, i said what i had to say, and then went about my normal life. When i came back (as i was reading, i started to respond, and state my case) as i got deeper in, and realized i was all but dead, it just royally ticked me off, MAINLY because again, people just blindly follow DJ like he is some sort of Mafia god. He is not. Is he good? Yeah, hes pretty darn good. ANd had i spoke up about targetting outlaw earlier, it wouldnt have made any difference, for the simple fact that they would have used that as saying i tried to kill a "confirmed" townie. i was darned if i do, and darned if i dont.

I think i personally played a great game, except or not picking up on the Wallbaner crap, about him effectivly bieng bulletproof.

And seriously, step out and look at things from my point of view at the time. i tried 2 kills, and got nothing to show for it. One was my fault, for not picking up on the Banger thing with the squirrles (still have no freakin idea who that was...) and the second was bad luck from RNG, i know that now, but look at it from my POV at the time.

Assuming you close your eyes and consider it, youll see what im talking about, otherwise, youll just assume it was poor sportsanship and to that i say Wtf ever. I was genuinly trying tohelp the town rid itself of every threat. except me. Playing the game with what i was dealt.

But i have a question.

Since when i tried to kill Outlaw... he didnt phsycially have control over the lastr gem yet, you said it yourself. his crony had gotten it, but it was in the faction. How is it fair that my kill on him (whichhad nothing to do with aquiring the gem to begin with) made him unkillable? e didnt have control over it at the time, his group did.

BlueStar
05-23-2008, 01:05 PM
Outlaw just gave out one big clue, which convinced me definitely. He claimed Day investigator and said he lost TWO investigation because of my night action. I de-commissioned someone one day and one night. Not two days...

I didn't mention that anywhere, but that was enough for me.

But I think the game was properly balanced...town made their mistakes, though the lynches were often alright. Losing the Mason/Cuckoo group VERY early and having 4/5 of the other power players outing themselves very early, didn't do much good.

I made 2 big mistakes: I didn't catch Masterded claiming Hulk and I didn't get TDS (who, as town, is almost as agressive towards town than mafia is). Also, I felt bad about targetting outlaw TWICE so I didn't do it. Probably should have...could have been a turning point.

Oh well...very enjoyable game and a great finish. At one point I thought this was going to turn into a RWC-finish.

Also, I loved the Minister Whitey claim...hey, if you're a semi-PGO, what better way to coax people your way by claiming a semi-information role.

My 0.02!

BlueStar
05-23-2008, 01:09 PM
Man, I always hate post-game arguments...you guys should watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail...

"Let's not argue about who killed who here...."

DJ, chime in some Elvis....

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:10 PM
Magento's a good guy?

I lobbied really hard to have Magneto wear a fake Town aligned tab, mainly due to his friendship with Professor X. But Rev felt given the threat he posed to Wolverine (the PGO) and Captain America ( a protector) the town needed to be able to confirm that he was scum.

BlueStar
05-23-2008, 01:13 PM
I lobbied really hard to have Magneto wear a fake Town aligned tab, mainly due to his friendship with Professor X. But Rev felt given the threat he posed to Wolverine (the PGO) and Captain America ( a protector) the town needed to be able to confirm that he was scum.

I only knew the movies and some of the cartoons. I just bought Age of Apocalypse Vol 1 and am still reading it. Hard to get a good idea on the whole storyline though...but I'm hooked. Probably going to buy vol 2-4 next week.

Curse you, Mafia game, curse you!!

Lostrelms
05-23-2008, 01:14 PM
I only knew the movies and some of the cartoons. I just bought Age of Apocalypse Vol 1 and am still reading it. Hard to get a good idea on the whole storyline though...but I'm hooked. Probably going to buy vol 2-4 next week.

Curse you, Mafia game, curse you!!

That was the last Marvel Universe series i read (well, any comics in general)

nZane
05-23-2008, 01:20 PM
Man, I always hate post-game arguments...you guys should watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail...

"Let's not argue about who killed who here...."Oh Blue, I love you. In a completely non-Panix way, of course! :D

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 01:24 PM
Thats just it, i said what i had to say, and then went about my normal life. When i came back (as i was reading, i started to respond, and state my case) as i got deeper in, and realized i was all but dead, it just royally ticked me off, MAINLY because again, people just blindly follow DJ like he is some sort of Mafia god. He is not. Is he good? Yeah, hes pretty darn good. ANd had i spoke up about targetting outlaw earlier, it wouldnt have made any difference, for the simple fact that they would have used that as saying i tried to kill a "confirmed" townie. i was darned if i do, and darned if i dont.

I think i personally played a great game, except or not picking up on the Wallbaner crap, about him effectivly bieng bulletproof.

And seriously, step out and look at things from my point of view at the time. i tried 2 kills, and got nothing to show for it. One was my fault, for not picking up on the Banger thing with the squirrles (still have no freakin idea who that was...) and the second was bad luck from RNG, i know that now, but look at it from my POV at the time.

Assuming you close your eyes and consider it, youll see what im talking about, otherwise, youll just assume it was poor sportsanship and to that i say Wtf ever. I was genuinly trying tohelp the town rid itself of every threat. except me. Playing the game with what i was dealt.

But i have a question.

Since when i tried to kill Outlaw... he didnt phsycially have control over the lastr gem yet, you said it yourself. his crony had gotten it, but it was in the faction. How is it fair that my kill on him (whichhad nothing to do with aquiring the gem to begin with) made him unkillable? e didnt have control over it at the time, his group did.

My problem is you were tyring to help the town from beyond the grave. You knew you were lynched and you still talked. It was the equivalent of NickC leaving a "note on the body." That was poor sportsmanship, no matter how you rationalize it or how pissed at DJ or Outlaw you were.

As for the other comments, I can look at it from your point of view, and I've been there, in VG Mafia; I was unhappy most of that game, because I thought the other mafia had the option to kill or not, and was just getting by, using us as cover. But I tell you what I didn't do, I didn't bitch about it in the thread and had enough respect for Astil and his game, to wiat until I had all information before ranting. And I'm glad I did, as things weren't as I thought they were.

There were two RNG's that night. One for the sequence of events.

Gamora's Kill
Blues Drain
Deadpool's Kill
Lost's Kill

Because all these things inter-twined, I decided to take the decision out of my hand, plugged them into the Random List Generator to see what would happen first.

Gamora---Blue--Lost----Deadpool, is what I got.

Then I had another question to consider, is Gamora having the gem enough to reforge the gauntlet, so that Thanos becomes bulletproof, or should Thanos have to be in physical possession of it.

So I put,

Gamora delivers Gem
Kang Kills Thanos

in the RNG. Gamora came out on top. Had it been you that came out on top, Outlaw would have died that night.

That was it. I wasn't going to make this decision on my own, knowing It could be influenced by any of my own biases, so I did what I thought was fair. It just sucked for you as the RNG didn't go your way in either instance.

Lostrelms
05-23-2008, 01:29 PM
My problem is you were tyring to help the town from beyond the grave. You knew you were lynched and you still talked. It was the equivalent of NickC leaving a "note on the body." That was poor sportsmanship, no matter how you rationalize it or how pissed at DJ or Outlaw you were.

As for the other comments, I can look at it from your point of view, and I've been there, in VG Mafia; I was unhappy most of that game, because I thought the other mafia had the option to kill or not, and was just getting by, using us as cover. But I tell you what I didn't do, I didn't bitch about it in the thread and had enough respect for Astil and his game, to wiat until I had all information before ranting. And I'm glad I did, as things weren't as I thought they were.

There were two RNG's that night. One for the sequence of events.

Gamora's Kill
Blues Drain
Deadpool's Kill
Lost's Kill

Because all these things inter-twined, I decided to take the decision out of my hand, plugged them into the Random List Generator to see what would happen first.

Gamora---Blue--Lost----Deadpool, is what I got.

Then I had another question to consider, is Gamora having the gem enough to reforge the gauntlet, so that Thanos becomes bulletproof, or should Thanos have to be in physical possession of it.

So I put,

Gamora delivers Gem
Kang Kills Thanos

in the RNG. Gamora came out on top. Had it been you that came out on top, Outlaw would have died that night.

That was it. I wasn't going to make this decision on my own, knowing It could be influenced by any of my own biases, so I did what I thought was fair. It just sucked for you as the RNG didn't go your way in either instance.

Fair enough. even though i didnt give anything game killing away like NickC did... i said who i targeted when i was asked. it changed nothing, clearly.

I'll appologize to you and Anti for not asking questions, and for "OMG HE TALKED WHEN THE VOTE WAS DONE BUT WASNT MADE OFFICIAL!" i had 2 posts from Antis writeup (ell, between part 1 and 2.) the first was as he was posting, and showed up right after him, and the 2nd i think was simply defending my position on a personal level. Nothing more, nothing less.

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 01:31 PM
I agree Lost. I think Bishop was the best fake role claim in the game, tbh. It met your real abilities perfectly and seemed more plausible than Outlaw being Drax, because at least you were posting results.

As for Squirrel Girl, yes her past contains victories over Deadpool, Dr. Doom, Thanos (though maybe it was only a Thanos clone.. this isn't clear) and a whole host of A list villains. She really is a badass who's main power stems from villains seriously underestimating her. Thats a clear character trait in the comic books. So I have no problem with the amount of power given to her.


As for the number of events, I agree, though I'd argue things like the TPF finding Jean Grey needed to be big to signal to the town the introduction of a new killer.

Aside from the Red Mafia, every other killer in the game could be selective.

Even Venom could forgo night kills for a couple of phases. This is why there were scant few kills in the start of the game. And even this was balanced against Gonvick/Dr. Strange who would slowly improve his abilities as the game went on until he'd become a very effective crime scene investigator.
There were a lot of events surrounding certain actions or kills so maybe as to help distingiush certain threats for the Illuminati. Unfortunately Gonvick was taken out early so I can see where someone might look at the bruhaha and go, is the game really about this?

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 01:41 PM
Day 2 was a no lynch, the one where everyone piled theoutlaw321 votes on with like 2 hours left in the phase and then backed off. With the list and then seeing the vote run up on Outlaw, I seriously thought, the town was just going to steamroll this game, even with the Blue/Green shenanigans.

Night 2

Greenwich Village

Derek B killing Gonvick

For decades he had been protecting earth from the dark forces of the mystic relm. Tonight he was holed up in his mansion, studying the black arts, preparing himself for the task he knew was soon at hand. Unfortunately, he wouldn't be around long enough to help save this city.

The creature was prepared, it knew how to get into the mansion, mere spells would not hold back one with such unrelenting determination. Quickly he entered the house, through the study, a right down the hall, leading to the stairs down to the cellar. He burst through the door, razor sharp teeth flashing as he quickly grabbed a hold of his victim. A brute, the creature pounded on the man, no spell would save him from the brutality of the attack.

When all was done, Gonvick lay there, drained of blood, a shell of his former self.

The creature not done, turned his attention to a large statue in the corner of the room. To any other it would look like a mere gargoyle, but he knew different. It was his real purpose for being there. A crushing blow to the head of the granite figure and all was revealed in the warm green light that emanated from within the husk of the statue. The creature smiled knowing that he had done well.

The Titans recieved the Soul Gem here. The gems worked in three phases, First the Gems held their own powers. The Soul Gems power granted Thanos the ability to both use the mind gem and go scavange a body in the same night. Before that, Thanos had to choose which action to take.

The second powers the Gems recieved were activated if Thanos retrieved the Power Gem, as it acted as a booster to for other gems.

**********************************************

Bigjosh checking to see if Minister Whitey was Jean Grey. MW's reverb didn't work here. Think Josh was just checking because of MW's inactivity. For sure thought that because I gave away Astil being a "her" in the night 1 writeup that Josh would end up checking on Astil since he was at least the same gender; but Josh went after the ones laying low, I think.

I thought I was dead......


Still Searching


Must be here......somewhere.....


hungry......


.....weak.....


who are you?....


....are....


....are you human?.....


.......No


Intriguing....


......What....are....you?.......


Not Her!


t-that's all.......


that matters


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And the contraversial write-up that doomed poor JackalBane. (Well aside from being Mystique) No, mystique is not taking Squirrel Girls power here. That said, she wouldn't be much of an impersonator if she did not in fact impersonate the person. Note that it states She's talking to the squirrels, not that the squirrels are talking back. SQ's power is to communicate with squirrels not just talk to the them. I can talk to a squirrel until I'm blue in the face, doesn't mean they understand me.

There was also another little hint. But in talking with Arrows, I agree that it was far to subdued and ambigious to be really picked up. That's my fault, but I had two ways to go about it. Either make it painfully obvious that Punisher was looking at an imposter or just hint at it. I chose the latter, although it should have probably been more of a hint.


War Journal

I've tracked my newest lead into Central Park. Micro swore this was a sure bet to be the killer I'm looking for. I've been following her for hours, energetic little thing, that's for sure. The possibilities of her being a psychotic killer? Well somethings off; but I wouldn't bet on it. Only kept watch over her this long because it's the best lead I have. Well that and I just can't figure out what this ones all about.

Hold on, is she making a move? Looking into the trees? Wait....

Is she really talking to.......


Yeah. This ones harmless. Micro better have a good explanation for this.




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Again this is Anti's stuff. theoutlaw checking TJROH's body to see if he was holding the gem.

The best laid plans of mice and men, and even beings such as he. He knew full well the risk, but while his machinations were balanced on a precipice of ruin, there was room for daring in his dark designs. After all, even if there was an unexpected visitor, precious few could pose any serious harm.

And so he made his way to where he had heard the battle took place. Eventually he saw the signs of a terrible struggle, and as he crept closer, he saw the blood, and bits of human flesh.

Normally one such as he would not deign to do so, but events left him no recourse… with his own hands he examined the remains to insure that what he sought was not there.

Before he left he stared intently at the corpse. No doubt this person had his own plans and dreams, yet one misstep had cost him everything.

The one standing above was sorely tempted to heed this as a warning, but he coldly reminded himself that this was the way of all things, in fact it was his ultimate goal, but this time he would succeed in casting all of creation into her cold embrace.


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Lost killing Blasphemywebleed

Nevermore and Lost both failed to send in PM's this night. So the RNG picked the target, and, luckily enough picked their inactive member for the hit.

Personally I thought I gave away a bit too much with the cracking of the fingers and making things personal for Kang (Since Kang is constantly thwarted by the Avengers), but nobody pegged Kang at all. Which is good or else Lost wouldn't have been able to use his investigations to look townie, since Kang is one of the most notorious Time-Travellers in the Marvel Universe.

He had his orders, but he himself would take personal delight in the task at hand. He'd always wanted to kill this particular individual, and with the state of confusion surrounding the city, there was no better time than right now.

There he was. The last boyscout. Always looking out for others, too bad, on this night he should have been looking out for himself.

He kept his distance, wary not to draw his targets attention. He cracked his knuckles and readied himself to strike.

The concussive blast was right on target, Blaphemywebleed didn't even know what hit him. He rushed to his fallen prey, knowing he wouldn't have much time.

"I've wanted to do this for a very long time" he said pulling out a knife.

"Let's do this the old fashioned way.

.........................

I want to hear you scream"


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Astil has recovered and may once again participate in the thread.

Blasphemywebleed is dead. He was Steve Rogers (AKA Captain America) Town Aligned Super Soldier

Gonvick is dead. He was Stephen Strange (AKA Doctor Strange) Town Aligned Sorcerer Supreme

Things not Mentioned:


Crychon Protected Midnightnick
The Shape Stole From Astil and gained a one shot protection ability
Foolinc Blocked DJ
nZane Investigated I Effn Rule
Mjdgoldeneye Tracked Foolinc
Trypio Probed Crychon's mind
Blasphemywebleed Protected Akki
The Aussie Investigated Outlaw
Akki Gave Gonvick the Roving Eye Camera
I Effn Rule Protecting Sprinklefurball
THEDEMONSEED Protecting AKKI
Djthefunkchris Surveying Midnightnick
Moe protected Derek B

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 01:43 PM
I agree Lost. I think Bishop was the best fake role claim in the game, tbh. It met your real abilities perfectly and seemed more plausible than Outlaw being Drax, because at least you were posting results.

As for Squirrel Girl, yes her past contains victories over Deadpool, Dr. Doom, Thanos (though maybe it was only a Thanos clone.. this isn't clear) and a whole host of A list villains. She really is a badass who's main power stems from villains seriously underestimating her. Thats a clear character trait in the comic books. So I have no problem with the amount of power given to her.


As for the number of events, I agree, though I'd argue things like the TPF finding Jean Grey needed to be big to signal to the town the introduction of a new killer.

Aside from the Red Mafia, every other killer in the game could be selective.

Even Venom could forgo night kills for a couple of phases. This is why there were scant few kills in the start of the game. And even this was balanced against Gonvick/Dr. Strange who would slowly improve his abilities as the game went on until he'd become a very effective crime scene investigator.
There were a lot of events surrounding certain actions or kills so maybe as to help distingiush certain threats for the Illuminati. Unfortunately Gonvick was taken out early so I can see where someone might look at the bruhaha and go, is the game really about this?


Utau the Watcher was there and has confirmed it was The Thanos, not a clone :p

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 01:59 PM
Blasphemywebleed
You are a World War II Veteran and Super-Hero Icon. When one thinks of a Hero in America you are usually the first image that comes to mind. You’ve done it all, you’ve seen it all, and this new threat is just one in a long line of plots you intend to thwart.

You are Steve Rogers (AKA Captain America) Town Aligned Super Soldier

There are many ways in which you’ve battled against evil in the past. You’ve used your superior strength and stamina to vanquish foes like the Red Skull and Kang the Conquerer. With this new threat, your services are in desperate need. With your trusty shield you can choose to protect another. To do so PM the name of the one you’d like to protect.

As Captain America you are morally opposed to taking the life of another, therefore, you may only use your vote as moral support. You may cast a vote, however, it will not count towards a lynch.


You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

Both nights he protected Akki and was only done in by the RNG. Was just a protector but then Anti insisted that Captain America's vote should not count toward a lynch as Cap doesn't kill ever. Thus, he became a voteless protector.

gonvick
05-23-2008, 02:07 PM
So was Hulk potentially more dangerous than he appeared, or was the sedative meant for something else?

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:14 PM
This was the role, that went through the most changes; by far. In essence Doctor Strange was a forensic investigator.

Back during Star Wars Mafia, I created Doc Strange to be a straight Forensic Investigator role. He would get a list of 5 people that could have possibly killed the soul he was talking to. Mephisto would of course be his counter.

Then R&B mafia happened. And we saw the effects of the FI, and it was brutal.

So I changed the role considerably. Instead he'd get a list of 10 for any soul he talked to. Each night a name would come off that list of 10. That way he'd have to go back and talk to the soul again to see who has come off the list.

Then E-Ville happened and we noticed that the Town was perfectly willing to out 5 people at random whether good or bad, power role or not, just to lynch someone. We thought if we'd do it with 5 names, why not 10?

So finally Anti came up with this, as a way to stave off the destruction a CSI role can wreak on the mafia, and introduce the risk of outing a town vigilante.

How it worked.

Strange could only open a portal to the souls with every 4 deaths (lynchings not included). The results he got only pertained to the most recent 4 deaths as well. So if there were 3 kills night 1 and then 3 kills night 2. Kills 1 and 2 on Night 1 wouldn't be included.

First time used. Strange would get 100% false info from the souls he talked to. He was basically clearing a few suspects.

Second Time used. Strange would only have 75% success rate in oppening the portal and then only 1 name would be that of a killer.

Third Time Used. Strange would have 50% success rate in oppening the portal but 2 names would be gauranteed to be a killer.

Fourth time and on. Strange would have 25% success in oppening the portal. But 3 out of 4 are gauranteed to be a killer.


Gonvick
You are the master of the mystic arts. You have spent decades protecting this dimension from otherworldly threats. You usually work alone, preferring solitude while dealing with foes in the mystic realm as your mastery of sorcery can make even those with super powers uneasy in your presence. However, in this fight you sense a common foe, one with an affinity for the dark arts.

You are Stephen Strange (AKA Doctor Strange) Town Aligned Sorcerer Supreme

They say “Dead Men Tell No Tails,” but that’s only because they haven’t witnessed the things you have. With your mastery of black magic you can conjure up the spirits of the recently deceased to gain information. The communication with the dead is a very nefarious task however and you may not always recieve truthful information, furthermore, the opening of the portal to the spirit world requires the blood of 4 individuals and the task is so strenous that you will out of necessity cut off comunication with your allies in the following day phase (including voting).

The guidlines for communication are as follows:

You can only choose to open a portal when the blood of 4 new souls has been spilt. The portal will only allow you to gather information of the 4 most recently deceased indivdiuals. For example, if 4 people have been killed by night 2 you may open a portal, if on night 3, 3 new souls are killed, a portal may not be opened as the blood of 1 new soul is still required.

The souls of the recently deceased are often confused or are under intimidation by particularly foul hearted demons so, you will not always have success in getting correct information, speaking with the dead, or even openning the portal. Thus a guidline for your dealings with the deceased is necessary.

Each time you open a portal, you will retrieve the name of 4 individuals, these individuals represent the supposed killers of the most recently deceased. The probablilty that the 4 names are the actual killers of the recently deceased depends on how often you've used your ability.

1) The 1st time you open a portal you will be 100% successful in doing so, however, as speaking with the dead is tricky there is a 100% certainty that you will either fail to retrieve the correct information or the spirits will give you false information.
2) The 2nd time you open a portal you will have only a 75 % chance of sucess as demons and evil spirits will be more focused on preventing you from completing your task. However, as you improve upon your communication with the deceased you will also have only a 75% certainty that you retrieved the wrong information.
3) The 3rd time you open a portal there will be a 50% chance of success, and a 50% certainy the that you retrieved the correct information.
4)The 4th and every time after that, you will have a 25% chance of success, but 75% certainty that you retrieved the correct information.

As the master of the mystic arts you posses much power and as such you have become a member of The Illuminati. You and your fellow Illuminati are charged with the protection of the Infinity Gems. You and your group have vowed not to use the incredible power these Gems possess and as such the Soul Gem in your custody grants you no special power. However, the recent events have shown that there are some that wish to harness the great power of the Gems to use for their own purposes. With two members of the Illuminati already dead it is up to the rest of you to avenge their deaths and protect the Gems.

You may talk to the remaining members of the Illuminati outside of the game thread. They are:

<Akki> Mr. Fantastic
<THEDEMONSEED> Black Bolt
<Midnightnick> Namor
<Gonvick> Dr. Strange



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when those responsible for the deaths of your fellow Illuminati members and all other threats to the town have been eliminated.


(if there are any questions concerning the usage of your ability please don't hesitate to ask imarevenant or antithesis)

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:17 PM
So was Hulk potentially more dangerous than he appeared, or was the sedative meant for something else?

Hulk, had many things that were needed for him to Hulk Out. The sedative could have been used on him, and would have made him just vanilla Bruce.

Truth be told, masterded was completely vulnerable from night 3 on, as the only thing that happened to him was a vote from Mr T; and that wasn't enough to get his temper flaring.

So anyone could have snuck in an attack on him from night 3 on.


The sedative could have been used on Hulk, Wolverine (would have taken him out of Bezerk mode, leaving him with just his healing factor), or Venom, who would have turned true blue, with 2 Kills at his disposal.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:31 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Imarevenant/marvelnq7.jpg

The town had gathered to say their farewells to two very important fallen heroes when, just a few moments afterwards, a commotion began...

That isn't what you said the other day!

You are crazy, and this colored font makes my eyes bleed!

Guys, I never felt such fear in my life

Well then obviously you've never seen my mother in law!

I thought I saw someone suspicious hanging around.. it was Foolinc!

Suddenly, as one entity, the crowd turned its attention towards Foolinc.

He replied bravely, "Guys, I am an obscure mutant that can hide and-

BULL!!! Your claim doesn't match your play, and besides, Anti and Rev are way more creative than that!

As the disbelief took hold in the timbre of their collective voices, Foolinc's demeanor suddenly began to change. He grew taller, and his skin took on a crimson hue, after a few moments there was no denying it, before the town stood one of the most diabolical beings in the universe.

MEPHISTO!

Muhahaha, in the flesh! It seems pointless to hide anymore... though before I go I have much to say, if, ahh, that precious IF, any of you would like to make a deal with the devil.

His laugh was such to torment souls and drive men mad, but these were no ordinary men and women around him. These were the best and bravest Earth had to offer. And they would not be swayed from what needed to be done.

Someone shouted, Go to hell!

And suddenly they grabbed the demonic one and had a specially fitted mystic noose tied around his neck. For the first time since this ordeal began, the town had managed to find a truly evil being that warranted punsihment. Mephisto tried to speak, what exactly, we will never know, as someone else pulled the lever and the devil fell down and down and down... falling forever!


Foolinc is dead! He was Mephisto Alliance of Evil Alligned Dealer of Souls

And here is the AoE's balance to Dr Strange. The red mafia was the only one that could get the name of their killer consistantly off the FI list. If they would have been successful, Strange would have only recieved 3 names instead of 4 as the dead soul being intimidated wouldn't have talked.

Unfortunately none of this played out as Strange died Night 2 and Mephisto Day 3.


Foolinc
You are known by so many names. Lucifer. Beelzebub. Satan. The Devil. The mere mention of any of these names is enough to run mens blood cold. As king of the Netherworld you see this alliance as an opportunity to gather and control some of the most powerful souls in the universe.

You are Mephisto Alliance of Evil Aligned Dealer of Souls

Through your manipulation of fear and black magic you can aid your alliance in one of two ways each night.

There are those in the town who know of sorcery and magic and through their abilities may wish to talk to the recently deceased to find out just who may have killed them. These souls can be dealt with however, through fear and the threat of an eternity of suffering.

Fear is your ally and through it you have had countless men cower before you. In these trying times you use this manipulation of ones fears to get inside their head and leave them cowering in their own home foregoing any plans they had for the night.

To engage in your game of terror, PM the name of the soul you wish to intimidate (living or dead).

You can talk to the members of The Alliance of Evil outside of the thread. The other members are:

<Nevermore> Victor Von Doom (Leader)
<Slim Jim> Magneto
<TJROH> Apocalypse
<Lostrelms> Kang the Conqueror



You are Alliance of Evil Aligned and thus come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the number of members in the Alliance of Evil out-number all other players in the game.

mjdgoldeneye
05-23-2008, 02:37 PM
How many times did I suggest Outlaw was Thanos? Honestly?

I knew as of the start or Day 3... Everyone took a hell of a lot for granted and beat me down with what was assumed was logic... Apparently not! In the future, don't look down upon my seemingly stupid devil's-advocacy. That's all I ask! Clearly, had you listened to me (and the handful of others who agreed) we'd have possibly won!

For once I was right, and for that I am satisfied... :D

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 02:46 PM
The sedative could have been used on Hulk, Wolverine (would have taken him out of Bezerk mode, leaving him with just his healing factor), or Venom, who would have turned true blue, with 2 Kills at his disposal.





Combine that with the sedative being in a group with a forensic investigator and on paper it became the perfect bartering tool.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 02:56 PM
Night 3

Anti's stuff here again. theoutlaw321 using the mind gem to see if Nevermore was holding a gem.

Really, The Titans, knew all the gem holders pretty quickly, it was impressive. The reason for so many protectors was to make the gathering of the gems difficult though (and each protector had their own little drawback as well), because the collection of the game was designed for the gauntlet to pretty much seal things for the Titans.

Stone in hand, he allowed himself a few moments to ponder his recent moves.

‘Power,’ he thought, ‘is wasted without direction. But what is direction, if not one’s will? True power then comes from one’s desire to succeed despite the obstacles. And if that were true, then I have already won, as none feel desire as greatly as I do.”

He took ahold of the gem then, and focused. The image in his mind was of one who was also powerful.

Suddenly author of much of the world’s current suffering knew… beyond any doubt, that he had found yet another one.

Would it become a battle of wills then?

Ahh if only it were that simple.

He smiled, and across the world children woke up screaming.

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Arrows killing Sprinklefurball.

This is the information Sprinkle alluded to on day 11, when outlaw was grilling him. Sprinkle targetted Outlaw on this night. Thanos only used the gem however, and should have been at home, not out.

However, seeing as Sprinkle was destined to die, I went ahead and added things for flair, such as Punisher tracking his target to the outskirts of town. So, sprikle thought he caught Law in a lie about not going out, but, in reality what he thought was wrong.

That said as a replacement player he should not have alluded to having any information stemming from his past role. It's fine if he knows it, but it shouldn't be posted in the thread or hinted at.

Also, needs to be said.

I f'd up the whole MW situation and have apologized to the whole of the Titans profusely. He shouldn't have been replaced midway through a day phase, especially when there were votes on him. When I finally got ahold of Sprink, there was maybe a vote on MW, by the time I worked things out with Sprink, he had 8 of 9 I think.

Now Sprink did jump the gun and entered the game before I made an announcement, which sucks, as I was having second thoughts about the replacement seeing as it was pulling the rug out from The Titans at the last minute. However, he didn't do it to break the rules or anything, he just saw the vote count and got a little anxious.

And then I go and forget that Sprink targetted Law at some point and that the write-up indicated something that could have screwed things up because I forgot. Yeah, well..... :o

Tonight the hunter would become the hunted.

The soldier followed his mark with precision, never letting his presence be known. This wasn't the first time he'd been on a stakeout that was obvious enough. He had followed his mark to the outskirts of the city, never realizing the Nightmare on his tail.

He watched his prey, waiting for the appropriate time to strike. Perhaps he'd wait until the man was done with his stakeout, or maybe when he was talking into his stupid little tape recorder; he couldn't help but flash that razor sharp smile at the thought of the various ways in which he'd kill him.

Finally, he saw his opportunity as the man crouched down, donning his binoculars.

The Nightmare pounced.

"Are you looking for us" the creature screamed as he pounced and landed square on Sprinklefurball's chest.

"Well here we are, let's see what's in that head of yours" the creature said while tearing into the unsespecting soldier.

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BigJosh checking to see if Nevermore was Jean Grey. Still checking the people laying low.

Still no sign of her......


Where could sh-e be


......lost.....


confused......


.....weak.....


...so....weak....


....and who are you.....


...intimidating.......


forceful....


...but....


....silly....man.....


still....not.....as powerful


as Her


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This is Anti's write-up. Bluestar trying to feed off masterded. BTW, I had made a decision a long time ago to increase Famine's enjoyment with her feeding as the game wore on. Was just to show her getting used to her power, lol. I know Blue was probably cursing us out under his breath for that :p

The energy from her last meal having waned, she hungered once more.

Not above taking an easy target, she found one man off alone. He was normal looking, no fancy tights or cape. Emboldened, she walk straight up to man.

“Hello, I was wondering if you could help me?”

The man was briefly taken aback. It seemed as though he had been lost in thought. He replied quickly, however. “I am sorry. What do you need help with young lady?”


She pulled herself in close to him, until her flesh contacted his. “Ohh. It is just that I am very hungry at the moment. And you… LOOK DELICIOUS!!!"

With that she grabbed the man and began using her powers. But something odd happened. The man yelled, not in pain but in anger. And his cries weren’t growing weaker, rather, they were becoming even stronger.

Soon she heard a roar which frightened her down to her very core. She stepped back and still could not get a full view of the giant emerald beast standing in front of her.

“Nnnnooo not you!”

Before she could turn the green monster bellowed again with such force the young girl was knocked unconscious. Which is perhaps for the best. Had that creature laid even a finger on her, she surely would have been broken to pieces.

And with that, the monster jumped into the air and sailed far away.

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Trypio getting killed by Slim Jim

She was out, as she always was, looking for someone that could bring ruin to the town. Probing the minds of those nearby she could tell instantly if one were a threat. She focused on one in particular, she dug deep, into his mind. Her task almost completed, she knew this wasn't the being she was searching for.

Discouraged she hung her head. Perhaps it was this discouragement that allowed the other to get so close, without her knowing it. Perhaps it was something else, in any event she had no chance to react as the metal pipe hurtled through the air piercing her heart. Trypio looked down at his chest shocked by the sight of the foreign object jutting from his heart; his last words "at least now I can join my sisters"

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Sprinklefurball is dead. He was Frank Castle (AKA The Punisher) Town Aligned Cold-Blooded Vigilante

Trypio is dead. He was Celeste Cuckoo Town Aligned Protégé of the White Queen

Blustar is injured and can not participate in the game thread for the entirety of the following Day Phase.

Abilities not Mentioned:


Crychon Protecting Midnightnick
The Shape Stealing from I Effn Rule. RNG gave Shape a Night Kill. Also convinced Shape that IER was scum :eek:
Lostrelms Went back and saw what Crychon did the night before
nZane Investigated the Shape
Mjdgoldeneye Tracked Derek B
Trypio Probing Arrows mind
Akki Gave the Awesome Android to The Demon Seed
I Effn Rule Protected djthefunkchris
THEDEMONSEED Protected Akki
JackalBane Impersonated nZane
Djthefunkchris Surveyed MJD's house
Derek B protected theoutlaw321

gonvick
05-23-2008, 02:56 PM
This was the role, that went through the most changes; by far. In essence Doctor Strange was a forensic investigator.

Back during Star Wars Mafia, I created Doc Strange to be a straight Forensic Investigator role. He would get a list of 5 people that could have possibly killed the soul he was talking to. Mephisto would of course be his counter.

Then R&B mafia happened. And we saw the effects of the FI, and it was brutal.

So I changed the role considerably. Instead he'd get a list of 10 for any soul he talked to. Each night a name would come off that list of 10. That way he'd have to go back and talk to the soul again to see who has come off the list.

Then E-Ville happened and we noticed that the Town was perfectly willing to out 5 people at random whether good or bad, power role or not, just to lynch someone. We thought if we'd do it with 5 names, why not 10?

So finally Anti came up with this, as a way to stave off the destruction a CSI role can wreak on the mafia, and introduce the risk of outing a town vigilante.

How it worked.

Strange could only open a portal to the souls with every 4 deaths (lynchings not included). The results he got only pertained to the most recent 4 deaths as well. So if there were 3 kills night 1 and then 3 kills night 2. Kills 1 and 2 on Night 1 wouldn't be included.

First time used. Strange would get 100% false info from the souls he talked to. He was basically clearing a few suspects.

Second Time used. Strange would only have 75% success rate in oppening the portal and then only 1 name would be that of a killer.

Third Time Used. Strange would have 50% success rate in oppening the portal but 2 names would be gauranteed to be a killer.

Fourth time and on. Strange would have 25% success in oppening the portal. But 3 out of 4 are gauranteed to be a killer.

I thought it was a very interesting role and was looking forward to seeing what I could do with it. But that just didn't work out for me.

If things started out a little differently I was going to have Black Bolt try to keep me alive long enough to get some results. And I knew I would have to survive for a good length of time to get much use of it.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Sprinklefurball

There are those in the town that don’t believe in “an eye for an eye.” They’d rather lock up criminals in prisons that can’t contain them. You call those people weak. Your life is dedicated to taking criminals down, one way or another. And with this new threat emerging, it looks like the town is in need of your special brand of justice.

You are Frank Castle (AKA The Punisher) Town Aligned Cold-Blooded Vigilante

You have become aware of a rather vicious criminal that’s recently returned to town and you feel that it is your duty to stop this person before they rack up a rather large body count. However, in order to stop this person from killing others, you must first search them out. To find this criminal you will stakeout their homes and haunts during the night. Each night you can PM the name of another player to find out whether or not they are the killer you are searching for.

As a man of action, once you’ve found a criminal you don’t waste time sending him to court and locking him behind bars where he’ll just plot an elaborate escape. No. You make sure he pays for each and every crime he’s committed with his life. And that’s what you intend to do now, although, there are many more innocents among the town, so you will only be able to employ your justice once you’ve found the killer you're searching for.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when the killer you are after is DEAD, AND all other threats to the town have been eliminated.

When I was a kid, The Punisher was my favorite comic character. I still love The Punisher, and rallied against every instance Anti suggested taking Punisher and Venom out of the game to beef up the other mafia or add more townies :p

Punisher was originally the main vigilante for the town, but then we added Thanos and thought, well I know he killed the Marvel Universe and all, but it just felt that Thanos was beyond him.

So we switched his focus to Venom. Unfortunately Sprink outed himself, and Arrows showed the proper restraint not immediatly going after him, giving him a better chance of finding Sprink unprotected.

Had Sprinkle ever found Venom, we had some over the top Garth Enis style mayhem prepared for the write-up. Punisher would have went Vanilla Townie had he completed his task as well.

If Venom had ever been given the sedative and become a townie, Punisher still would have been required to kill him. Venom would have to see justice for his past misgivings :D

gonvick
05-23-2008, 03:13 PM
The sedative could have been used on Hulk, Wolverine (would have taken him out of Bezerk mode, leaving him with just his healing factor), or Venom, who would have turned true blue, with 2 Kills at his disposal.

I thought about using it on Venom just to see if anything would happen, but wasn't sure if it would be worth it to let him run around killing people while we got around to using it.

I don't think I would have used it on Wolverine. Maybe he had an anti-town aspect that I'm unaware of, but I would have assumed he was fine as he was.

I likely would have wanted to use it on Hulk at the first sign of him Hulking out because I was assuming that he would be harmful to the town in some way. Otherwise I didn't see why we would have the sedative in the first place.

What were the side effects that were mentioned? I was thinking that at the very least it might put other people to sleep for a phase, but wasn't sure if it was more dangerous than that.

Arrows
05-23-2008, 03:20 PM
I thought about using it on Venom just to see if anything would happen, but wasn't sure if it would be worth it to let him run around killing people while we got around to using it.

I don't think I would have used it on Wolverine. Maybe he had an anti-town aspect that I'm unaware of, but I would have assumed he was fine as he was.

I likely would have wanted to use it on Hulk at the first sign of him Hulking out because I was assuming that he would be harmful to the town in some way. Otherwise I didn't see why we would have the sedative in the first place.

What were the side effects that were mentioned? I was thinking that at the very least it might put other people to sleep for a phase, but wasn't sure if it was more dangerous than that.

You guys SO shoulda made me town.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 03:36 PM
Trypio
Being the clone daughter of Emma Frost is not always easy. Sure you have your sisters and together you can control people’s thoughts and are capable of some truly amazing feats. However, like your mother, trouble is always near by, and once again you, along with your sister and mother, have been thrust into the fire.

You are Celeste Cuckoo Town Aligned Protégé of the White Queen

You and your sister foresaw an event which could destroy this town. Both of you, determined to avoid this event, are on the search for the two individuals that could bring this incident to pass. Unfortunately, because you are apart from the other 3 Stepford Cuckoos your psychic abilities are not at their best and you could not determine just who you are looking for and thus you must do this blindly. Each night PM the name of a person you’d like to probe, and you will be notified if the individual is the one you are looking for.

You can talk with your mother and sister out of the thread; they are:

<Shamelessposer> Pheobe Cuckoo
<Ya Its Me> Emma Frost



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

The other Cuckoo sister. Trypio was searching for The Phoenix Force, given Celeste is the one that had actually become possessed by TPF before.

I explained what would happen if they found TPF or Jean before Dark Phoenix came about. They'd be told that Astil and/or Bigjosh was one of the two people that could possibly bring ruin to the town and have to decide whether or not to out them.

If they found them after Dark Phoenix came about or they sat on the info though, they would have had two options along with Emma Frost (Ya its me).

Option 1 is if they knew who Jean was, they could cure her mind. This was of course temperary as canonically nobody, not even Xavier could do that. So 3 nights later, TPF would have taken over again and started killing, without Jean being able to try and stop it. To cure Jean, all three would have had to post Cure: Astil in the thread.

If they knew who The Phoenix Force was though, they were one of the checks on him. They could kill TPF. If the three of them were alive they'd have 99% chance of killing him, if two of them were alive they'd have 66% chance, if only one of them were alive then they'd only have a 33% chance. If Celeste died before finding and killing TPF, Phoebe and Emma would not be able to complete the task. To kill TPF they all had to post Kill: BIGJOSH in the thread.

I know, they shouldn't have the power to kill TPF. But I had to manipulate some things to fit gamewise. Just how it is, not everything fits perfectly with Mafia games in mind.

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 03:37 PM
The Shape Stealing from I Effn Rule. RNG gave Shape a Night Kill. Also convinced Shape that IER was scum

I should point out that Deadpool was designed specifically as a tweener. With his protection ability he shouldn't want to out himself and make himself a target for scum, but at the same time, he could accidentally kill people, thereby throwing a monkey wrench into Gonvick's potential crime scene investigations.

Thats why IER's write ups for his kills were never slanted as being overly noble or malicious. Wanted to leave IER room to claim whatever, but also perhaps leave things open in the minds of townies as to what Deadpool's real motives might be.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 03:38 PM
I thought about using it on Venom just to see if anything would happen, but wasn't sure if it would be worth it to let him run around killing people while we got around to using it.

I don't think I would have used it on Wolverine. Maybe he had an anti-town aspect that I'm unaware of, but I would have assumed he was fine as he was.

I likely would have wanted to use it on Hulk at the first sign of him Hulking out because I was assuming that he would be harmful to the town in some way. Otherwise I didn't see why we would have the sedative in the first place.

What were the side effects that were mentioned? I was thinking that at the very least it might put other people to sleep for a phase, but wasn't sure if it was more dangerous than that.



The sedative would have knocked someone out the night you used it, the following day, and the night after. I didn't let you in on the fact that it could be used as a powerful little weapon though, lol

nZane
05-23-2008, 03:48 PM
Had Sprinkle ever found Venom, we had some over the top Garth Enis style mayhem prepared for the write-up. Punisher would have went Vanilla Townie had he completed his task as well.I think I asked this earlier, but now I'm ****ing DEMANDING a Director's Cut of some of these write-ups, complete with alternate and deleted scenes. Oh, and preferably an alternate ending with the Town coming out victorious. :D

DO IT NOW DO IT NOW DO IT NOW!!!

Lostrelms
05-23-2008, 04:05 PM
I think I asked this earlier, but now I'm ****ing DEMANDING a Director's Cut of some of these write-ups, complete with alternate and deleted scenes. Oh, and preferably an alternate ending with the Town coming out victorious. :D

DO IT NOW DO IT NOW DO IT NOW!!!

Cosign. Especially for if my kill on Outlaw had succeeded... because that would have been a HUGE game changer.

Destiny
05-23-2008, 04:09 PM
So I went into bezerk mode if someone targetted me?

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 05:17 PM
So I went into bezerk mode if someone targetted me?

Yep you were a PGO, in the midst of a notorious Wolverine Berzerk Rage.

You weren't so industructable though..........I'll get to it :p

jbergey_2005
05-23-2008, 05:19 PM
Great job Anti and Rev, you handled a lot of different situations very well. Some of the behavior especially early on had me wondering if this was a pre school website;)

IMO the game was set up for the town to win other than a few big mistakes. I feel this way for a number of reasons. We couldnt kill anyone unless we knew they had a gem until we got all the gems. The gem holders were giving away far too much valuable information. Outlaw was very good a matching a player to a role and Moe was key in being able to name that particular person. The red mafia didnt help us at all in taking out some of the bulletproof townies like we had expected them to do.

I didnt actually fib too much... I wasnt doing anything UNTIL the blood brothers were outted(night 8 I believe)....

At one point in late in the game you guys were unable to lynch Outlaw so basically you would have had to lynch myself followed by DJ and then Outlaw in order to win. Once Outlaw was powered up it took 66%+1(12 total, 3 of us, you would have needed 9 votes) to lynch him, plus we could make someones vote not count. Once Thanos was powered up he was able to do many things to flub you guys up...bus drive, change alignments, etc... We were kind of hoping to keep this going to really mess with you guys;)

A few townies really stood out as playing well in a losing effort....IER, nZane(trust your instincts;)) MTJ2M, MJD I know Im forgetting someone. A couple of gem holders were really stuck in a bind early and it made their job extremely difficult but played it the best they could(gonvick, TDS)....

And once again Thanks to Outlaw, Moe, Derek and DJ.....well done:)

I may have overused the smileys:)

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 05:35 PM
Day 4

The town congregated in Central Park to discuss their next move.

Valuable assets had died the night before, and no clear answers were readily apparent.

“I think we need to revisit the list” one said.

And so they did, but once again they couldn’t wrap their heads around what happened on Night 1.

Were some holding back information? Was the town’s main concern at that house that fateful night? Were there really that many there to protect the owner of the house?

They argued about these questions for hours, finally settling on one name from the list, to pressure.

“We know what you said you do, but who are you?”

“I’m mean and close to black”

Some knew exactly what she meant.

“We need to take care of you then, you could cause far too much destruction to be left alive”

And with that the arguing commenced once more.

They contemplated hanging some on the list, and even some off of it. But one thing was sure, no one was sure of anything.

Well almost no one.

He had seen enough and was confident that the town was letting their biggest threat slip away from them time and time again. He wasn’t always the most liked individual, or the most trusted. But the pure fact was, that he ruled over 75% of the earth, and with the backing of his vast kingdom behind him his decision would be upheld.

“I think he is the one we need to hang”, he stated with an air of superiority only one with noble blood could properly convey

The town quickly grabbed The Shape and led her to the gallows.

Confident the accuser, pulled the lever himself. As the body slowly sway back and forth a hush came over the crowd as they came to the realization that a horrible mistake had been made.





The Shape is dead. He was Felicia Hardy (AKA Black Cat) Town Aligned Cat Burglar

Ahh, the hammer down ability of Namor. I really did think it would be used as soon as Phoenix started racking up the votes without getting lynched.

That said, it ended up hurting the town, but Midnights reasoning for it was sound if you ask me. It always seems to happen that in the game, some member of the mafia is able to be vague and answer just enough to get the heat off without really answering anything. In this game it was Outlaw; but for a while it looked like it was The Shape.

So, I can see how Midnight thought Shape was bluffing, and was scum. Shape was playing just scummy enough that I don't think he'd have drawn mafia attention, while being able to stockpile some valuable abilities. Unfortunately the scumminess drew Namor's attention, and well the rest is history.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 05:41 PM
The Shape
You come from a long line of highly successful cat burglars and you’ve been more than happy to join in the family business. You’ve straddled the line between good and bad before, this time however, your intentions are clearly for the good of the town and by employing your special skills you may be able to help rid the town of its attackers.

You are Felicia Hardy (AKA Black Cat) Town Aligned Cat Burglar

Each night you can choose to steal from another by PMing the name of your target. Once you've stolen from another you can choose to use the ability during any subsequent night phase. You can not choose to use a stolen ability/item and steal from another on the same night however.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

The Shape I thought was playing a pretty good game. I think he was on top of the Outlaw/Thanos situation. His only mis-step was pegging IER as scum, but he did steal a night kill from him so that was understandable.

Night 1 he stole a double vote from Midnightnick, rendering MNN voteless on day 2.
Night 2 he stole a one shot protection from Astil
Night 3 he stole the night kill from IER

So, he was stockpiling a nice little aresenal for himself, and keeping it quiet no less.

The Shape didn't know that he could steal primarily from townies, and some scum. However, if he stole from any scum who were responsible for a kill (Thanos, Venom, The Phoenix Force, Dr Doom) he would have died.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 06:11 PM
So, Night 4, or the night Mr T, made it Rain :D

Day 3/Night 4 was exciting from my point of view. Nobody knew what the hell was going on after The Shape lynch.

I think Mr T used the ability at the perfect time as well. He was able to alleviate a little of the mistake from The Shape mislynch at least.



BIGJOSH checking to see if Jackalbane was Jean Grey.

Interesting in that this is the only night in which any action could be taken on Jackalbane/Mystique, since it was a shortened nightphase and even those with the "must choose a target" were excempt.

That said, I was floored, completely floored, when the PM came in for Josh to look at Jackalbane after Astil made it crystal clear who he was. Josh later tried to change his decision (after reading the day 3 stuff) but it was a couple mins after Anti first declared the Night Phase over

Night 4

**********************************************

Searching…..


Where is she….


.....she looks.....


interesting......


.....not.....


...the....her....


....I want.....


...though


**********************************************

And of course, Mr T doing his thing. Good thing Anti thought of a reasonable way for storm to actually make night turn to day, since you know, her power to control the weather really shouldn't affect that

It was finally time for action.

An unexpected mistake had been made and only she could rectify it.

Night.

As if that scared her. She could shroud the world in a perpetual night like state if she wished, or she could bring about "daylight" just as easily.

On this night she would do the later.

Her eyes went white and instantly the clouds in the night sky cleared a path. Slowly the moon began to glare, the reflection of the sun bouncing off it's surface becoming more and more intense with each passing moment.

The citizens of New York slowly crept out of their homes to witness the event, millions gaping in awe as daylight was restored to the city.


Bluestar has recovered and may once again participate in the thread

Funny thing about this shortened night phase. Those that got their PM's in before a MOD officially ended the phase would be able to do their thing.

The Town would have been in total ruin, had theoutlaw321 been a min. earlier. I know he still thinks that I should have counted it. But the timestamps weren't supporting it.

It was something like:

2:39:40 Mr T Ends the Night Phase
2:39:45 Outlaw asks if he can get an ability in or if the phase just ends with nothing happening.
2:41 Anti ends the Night Phase officially
2:41:30 Outlaw came in with his PM

Now I can see the argument that Outlaw's PM should have counted because he asked before the Night Phase was officially ended. However, the actual ablity pm wasn't in until after the phase ended, so we didn't count it, as our rule was only those in before the phase was ended counted. And we had our own rule to end the post the the phase was ended immediatly after either of us saw the PM. That way, no one could question if they got it in.

Now had Outlaw been just a bit faster, He would have killed both Akki and Midnightnick and had 4 of the gems by night 4.

There were others that just missed the cut off as well.

But the only other one that made it in was.

MJD, who tracked Derek B

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 06:26 PM
The town had seemingly just recovered from a terrible situation with the lynch of the Black Cat only to be saved from nightfall by some powerful intervention.

Now, focused and with another chance to redeem themselves, how would the town perform?


Several people were questioned, and several gave answers that most found satisfactory.

However, soon there were rumbling about one individual in particular… someone with a bad reputation.

Quickly there were arguments about Mystique.

She tried to explain herself, poorly perhaps, but even so, the town, starved for blood, became ruthless.

“Liar!”

“Fake!”

“Phony!”

“Idiot!”

“Uhh, I don’t know what color the town is, but I am certain you are the source of my confusion!”

Soon, the voices turned into a chorus of resentment. Jackalbane was grabbed and carried to the gallows…


But before we show that grisly scene, I would like to turn your attention to the Blue area of the Moon. Home of the Watcher Uatu.

It is there, that Uatu has just plugged in his X-Box 360 And is playing the latest version of Intergalactic Rock Hero.

He begins to sing:

When I was young, I was so full of fear
I hid behind anger, held back the tears
It was me against the world, I was sure that I'd win
But the world fought back, punished me for my sins
I felt so alone, so insecure,
I blamed you instead and made sure I was heard
And they tried to warn me of my evil ways
But I couldn't hear what they had to say

I was wrong, self destruction's got me again
I was wrong, I realized now that I was wrong

And I think about my loves, well I've had a few
I'm sorry that I hurt them, did I hurt you too?
I took what I wanted, put my heart on the shelf
How can you love when you don't love yourself?
It was me against the world, I was sure that I'd win
But the world fought back, punished me for my sins
And they tried to warn me of my evil ways
But I couldn't hear what they had to say

Well I grew up fast, I grew up hard
something was wrong from the very start
I was fighting everybody, I was fighting everything
but the only one that I hurt was me
I got "society's" blood running down my face,
Somebody help me get outta this place
How could someone's bad luck last so long?
until I realized that I was wrong

I was wrong, self destruction's got me again
I was wrong, the only one that was wrong was me,
I was wrong.

A video to the song can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyCERZBxv5Y


Just as he finishes the last refrain, “I was wrongggg”, Uatu merely shook his head.


He then had a nice porterhouse steak, and with so much free time on his hands, engaged in his favorite hobby….

He disrobed and quickly put on a low cut, skin tight sweater with a bright orange U adorning his chest, and slid a short ruffled skirt up his legs. After that he grabbed some pom poms and began to cheer as he jumped to and fro

GIMME A M
GIMME AN I
GIMME AN S
GIMME AN L
GIMME A Y
GIMME A N
GIMME A C
GIMME AN H

WHATS THAT SPELL? MISLYNCH WHEEE!!!!

He then did a high kick, accidentally exposing his lil Watcher!

Another Cheer followed:

LYNCH EM ALL! LYNCH EM ALL! LYNCH ALL THE TOWNIES!
LYNCH EM ALL ! LYNCH EM ALL! LYNCH ALL THE TOWNIES!

WE DON”T WANT TO WIN THIS GAME!
NO! NO! NO!
WE WON’T LISTEN TO WHAT YOU SAY!
NO! NO! NO!
WE THINK WE KNOW WHAT THE MODS INTEND!
YES! YES! YES
BUT AT THIS RATE WE WILL JUST LOSE IN THE END!
YES! YES! YES!
FIRE AND ICE! ICE AND FIRE!
:clap clap:
:clap clap:
ANOTHER MISLYNCH AND THE TOWN WILL EXPIRE!
:clap clap clap clap:






Meanwhile, back on Earth-

Well I suppose it should be obvious by now…



JackalBane is dead! He was Raven Darkholme (AKA Mystique) Town Aligned Doppleganger

So, yeah.

The write-up was a bit much. But I think it was the fact that Anti got stuck with a similar scummy looking role in Star Wars, and no one believed him then, just like no one believed Jackalbane.

And yes, I know many didn't agree with Mystique being town aligned, but I did give her a reason to be. And as Anti alluded to earlier, when I originally created the game, there was no Thanos, but a second mafia group; made up of the likes of The Winter Soldier, Dark Hawk, Mimic, and The Scarlett Spider (lovingly called the Forgotten Heroes Alliance).

This group was Town Aligned however, they had their own win condition of having to outnumber the amount of true townies at the end of the game. If they didn't outnumber them, they'd have turned into a true mafia and started killing the town, just so they could get the credit for thwarting Doom and company. Anyway, Mystique was a Townie that could get recruited to either the FHA or Dooms mafia if targetted by either group.

Once the FHA was out, and Thanos in, her abililty to be recruited went away. I still kept her as Townie though, as I gave her a reason to side with the town in the role PM and it was my way of acknowledging that Mystique as a character, when treated right by whoever's writing her, is much deeper than "the **** is pure evil." :rolleyes:

And yes, I know those with their only exposure being the X-Men movies or even cartoon were at a supreme disadvantage with her in mind. However, one red-herring amongst a pretty strong town wasn't too much in my opinion.

The Aussie
05-23-2008, 06:28 PM
I still reckon it's kinda funny that I kept on getting the vibe from Outlaw after I investigated him and he turned up scum. I thought that he was maybe a don but couldn't prove it and it only occured to me that he could be Thanos later in the game when someone bought up The Blood Brothers hiding him.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 06:29 PM
Jackalbane
Your whole life has been a fight. You’ve fought for acceptance from your parents who were frightened by your odd appearance. You’ve fought for good, alongside the famous X-men. You’ve fought for evil, being a vital member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. You’ve even used your skills to become a mercenary. No matter what the fight however, one thing has always taken precedence. Survival. And with your gift, to take the appearance of any person you want, this newest conflict is just another in a long string of incidents in which you are determined to come out of unscathed.

You are Raven Darkholme (AKA Mystique) Town Aligned Doppleganger

In the past you have thought only of yourself, and although nothing has changed, in this conflict you see a distinct advantage of aligning yourself with the town. Make no mistake, your primary goal is to live through this crisis. However, having fought on both sides, you know how ruthless and backstabbing the other side can be.

Each night you must choose to assume the identity of another by PMing the name of the chosen target; if you do not choose a target one will be randomly selected for you. Choose wisely however, as whatever actions are targeted against your chosen identity will happen to you instead.

You are town aligned however, upon investigation you will take on the alignment of the person you are posing as.



You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated AND if you are alive at the end of the game.

And here is her role PM.

Now I must apologize to Jackalbane, I thought the fact that he'd come up aligned as whomever targetted him would clue him in that actions taken against him go to whomever he's posing as.

I should have put that in, clearly, and as a result Jackalbane was confused and you guys had a field day with the claim.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 06:36 PM
I'll get to the rest tonight I think, If not tonight, sometime sunday or monday night, most likely

jbergey_2005
05-23-2008, 07:12 PM
Argh! Good game, Rev. I really had no faith in the town after I died, you townies who made it to the end (with the exception of 'Banger and nZane, and sprinkle who was crippled being the mafia's patsy) should be ashamed of yourselves!

Outlaw, dj, and especially jbergey, well played. I was cursing the brilliance of your "lay low" tactic from the grave. But yeah, outlaw as a don= always dangerous.

Oh yeah, and I'd like to take this time to also present THT with the award for "Second Worst "Great" Mafia Player of All Time". He didn't make me want to shatter my computer screen with a headbutt and disembowel myself with a shard of the glass like DGL did, but holy crap did he manage to be annoying while sucking!

That's just it, though: pretty much EVERYONE thought Outlaw was suspicious. And a good number of us thought the same of DJ as well. It's just that they both did a fantastic job of deflecting attention off of themselves and on to others, which is exactly what scum are supposed to do.

And I have to give special congrats to JB, too. I know all too well that laying low is one of the better strategies scum can have, but that it also takes some of the fun out of playing as well. So job well done, my man!

Much appreciated... I knew I didnt have to do much to defend myself except to make it clear I wasnt Thanos...At that point you guys really made the right decision in trying to get Thanos just chose the wrong targets...Getting DJ around the time your suspicions started to increase was nice for us to get you guys thinking of other options..

JackalBane
05-23-2008, 07:35 PM
Jackalbane


And here is her role PM.

Now I must apologize to Jackalbane, I thought the fact that he'd come up aligned as whomever targetted him would clue him in that actions taken against him go to whomever he's posing as.

I should have put that in, clearly, and as a result Jackalbane was confused and you guys had a field day with the claim.
Yeah... could have helped me out a bit... ;) But it's all cool.

Moe Hunter
05-23-2008, 08:16 PM
All Hail Thanos!

Wow, what a game. I feel like I played my best in this one - pegged so many scum as well as townie roles, survived a LOT longer than I should have by all rights. Good times!

Too little too late on Lost's part.... We asked for their help in the beginning (or at least I did)... No one stepped up to talk for them. It enabled Outlaw to keep the town doubts of them high.

However, Slim and Nevermore were all mine... I actually begged Outlaw to let me go after them for killing me.
Now now to be fair, we already had Nev and Slim pegged before your death, remember I started the lynch attempt on Slim knowing it would bring Nev to the foreground, as my previous attempts to lynch Nev hadn't worked out.

I must agree that the Reds should have chosen a side and really worked to it. I honestly don't know how they figured that not killing Crychon or IER or Astil early on made any sense... instead going for bulletproof types like THT and nZane.

I still can't believe the town never pushed the jbergey lynch
And uber kudos to JBergey, while I'm at it. I know he's disappointed with having to hide away for the last few days, but he really became the lynchpin for us in doing so. He could go out there with his kills, keep the votes in our favor... perfectly executed. I can't think of one mistake that JBergey made the whole game.

EIther way, I'm pretty pleased with my game in general, meaning I played far worse than this.

But as Arrows would say: "if you get killed, that means you've done something wrong."
Bluestar, you did great. Of course we clashed heads as always, but that was necessary this time for sure. You can only imagine how much we were all ****ting ourselves when you emaciated Outlaw!

Key points that led to Thanos victory in my opinion.

IER not looking Townie enough to trust... This is the number one reason he had to die when he did. He was all over us.

Vision...... MW saying weird stuff that wasn't around (Skrulls), and made himself, and thus Sprinkle, look scummy by not participating.

TDS..... Was right about everything but one thing. I think there might be more to that story, not sure..

Wallbanger not being active, and never really catching up I don't think.

And... MASTERDED. HE was just "OFF" somehow this game. I thought we would make a good team, but I was killed off, and had to work against him.
Let's not forget that Akki and Midnight threw themselves at the mercy of the town, and Gonvick (and to a lesser extent TDS) basically gave themselves up as well without realising it.

We knew who had the gems even before searching. We just did so to make sure there was no possibility we were wrong, and to give the town a false sense of security that maybe we HAD to search before we could kill. We also just looked at some corpses (TJRoH, The Shape, etc) for the hell of it really.

oh yeah. thanks moe! ;)

it bought me the time i needed! lol
Any time, man. As soon as masterded came out as Hulk, I knew that the Drax claim was full steam ahead. Remember masterded had been posting in "intardnet" speak? I figured he was either Drax or Hulk with his diminished intellect.


I will also add, I know at least once, possibly twice, they never sent in a PM for a night kill target, so a target was chosen at random for them on at least one occassion.

Wow, just wow.

I want to congratulate Moe who was killed but was key to our victory. Outlaw made all the right moves and DJ helped in a huge way the later stages. Derek got caught early and IMO wasnt at his A game probably under the circumstances. As for me I really wasnt allowed to do anything which I am sorry for. I love to win with great people but I hate to have to hide because of the people on your side lack confidence in you, therefore this is likely my last game.
I know it was after my death, but you have to know that I had full confidence in you. You're a good player and I enjoyed working with you. You've improved since RWC (where I would have had you lynched early on if Outlaw's plans hadn't screwed me over :P).

Derek was very helpful behind the scenes, but I do agree that he wasn't *quite* at his best in-game. Still, he did a solid job as well. I'm proud that he was my Blood Brother in this game.

Outlaw once again shows his mastery over this game, and I must say that when I first saw my PM and the team listing - I *knew* we would have to win. The four of us? With our combined and varied expertise in Mafia, with my vast Marvel knowledge to back us up? Surely there's only one thing that could make us better...

DJthefunkChris! With Derek dead and me only 3 days away from death, I guess we should thank the Reds for handing us the guy who can talk his way through anything. Simply brilliant playing. While he was town he was our #1 worry, made worse by the fact that we couldn't kill him. As our ally, he was awesome. Those who've teamed with him before know that he posts about as much backstage as he does in-game.

Immune to Lynches and Night Kills.

:eek:

Seriously, she's a bad mother :hush your mouth:

I should clarify.. before people get in an uproar.

This was limited to two occassions. First attempted night kill or lynch on her, she would be saved by a squirrel friend. That squirrel would die.

She only had two squirrels. And after the second attempt she would have left the game out of remorse for her dead furry comrades.
I just want to point out that I latched on to this very soon after my own death. I was kicking myself that I didn't figure it out in time to tell the others, but then it didn't really matter since once we had the Gauntlet, Outlaw could walk right through any number of Squirrels!

Actions Not Highlighted:

Akki gave Gonvick The Ultimate Nullifier

The Ultimate Nullifier?! Good Lord, was that really able to do in-game what it does in comics? I'd be very much interested in hearing about what all these inventions did.

I hate you all. So very very much.

Still, I think this was far and away my best game (not saying much, but still). There was just something off about both DJ and Outlaw in the latter half of this game, but they both did a killer job (pun intended) of deflecting me away from them, so I didn't stand much of a chance. Oh, and Rev and Anti can clarify this for me, but I'm pretty sure that my Spider Sense was only a one-shot. Things weren't quite as unbalanced for the red mafia as Lost thought. :D

Regardless of how public opinion plays out for this game and despite the fact that things dragged a bit towards the end, this was still far and away the most fun I've ever had in mafia, so I would definitely like to thank Rev and Anti for that! But I do think I'm about mafia'd out, so yeah. Consider this my retirement.

... which I figure will probably last until the next sign-up thread opens, but still! :p
Oh man, seeing DJ and Outlaw basically throw half their pretense out the window in the short dayphase at the end was hilarious. "My vote goes where Drax's goes!". Brilliant. nZane you did a good job as well, especially in trying to take the reigns after the previous leaders had fallen.

I don't know if you noticed, but our team's lack of activity in the last couple of days was specifically designed to drag the game speed down - we basically planned on a mislynch as best case scenario. Of course I'm speaking on behalf of those Titans who were still alive lol.


Who said Outlaw was most suspicious?

*Raises hand*

Who said DJ came back as scum?

*Raises hand*

...just because one is scum, does not mean he should be ignored :rolleyes:.

Quote The Raven
Nevermore
Who had you down as Doom from Day 2/3 and constantly tried to bring you down? Indeed, just because one is scum doesn't mean they should be ignored :P

In essense they were, from my point of view, you have to see that i failed on 2 straight night kills, and had no way of knowing why, or how. that from my perspective at the time looks pretty damn unbalenced.

However

EVERY SINGLE thing i said about Outlaw was SPOT ON.

EVERY BIT.

That makes me feel real good.

and following DJ so blindly? Yep, see, had people actually listened to me, Mastered was convinced. I almost had you convinced Nzane. but you guys just have more respect for DJ then me in games like this, but thats because ive never had a really good game...

untill this one.

I personally think i played a flawless game, had an iron clad roleclaim, HANDED you Outlaw as a threat, handed Bigjosh to you...

Anyway, i tried to Kil outlaw because i honestly thought he was Thanos, and i kn ew my only chance to dwindle the numbers down and actually have a chance at winning, was if Thanos was dead. I couldnt kill him, so i tried to hget you guys to lynch him.
Your roleclaim was good, but we did have you pegged as scum fairly early. You had the town fooled for a long time, which was well done. If only you'd paid more attention to the role hints that were abound - THT was clearly playing as though he was bulletproof, for example, while Crychon, IER, etc were all outed protectors ready to be killed.

How many times did I ask if I could feed of someone, Rev? About a zillion times? :D

Loved the game, really! I even bought the first series of Age of Apocalypse yesterday in a specialized book store. Magento's a good guy?
Ah you'll love the AoA. It's still one of my favourite series. Magneto's a good guy simply because Xavier died in his arms well before they ever fell out with each other.


Also, I loved the Minister Whitey claim...hey, if you're a semi-PGO, what better way to coax people your way by claiming a semi-information role.

Indeed! I still haven't talked to Whitey about it (for one I've been out with goddamn food poisoning the past day!), but I figured out early on that he was doing some sort of bluff. Knowing now of course that he was a Mirror, it makes perfect sense and I feel like he had a good strategy - call the attention of everyone in a strange way that doesn't give up whether he's town or mafia. He took down the SK, so I'd say he did a great job for someone with only 4 posts! Unfortunately for him, this is the first game he's lost.

I agree Lost. I think Bishop was the best fake role claim in the game, tbh. It met your real abilities perfectly and seemed more plausible than Outlaw being Drax, because at least you were posting results.

As for Squirrel Girl, yes her past contains victories over Deadpool, Dr. Doom, Thanos (though maybe it was only a Thanos clone.. this isn't clear) and a whole host of A list villains. She really is a badass who's main power stems from villains seriously underestimating her. Thats a clear character trait in the comic books. So I have no problem with the amount of power given to her.

Bishop was a good claim, but it did lead me to the conclusion of Kang over say Ultron. Bishop never really was able to selectively time-travel. I would have believed Cable a little bit more than that, but then the concussive blasts fits Bishop better. I was quite proud of the Drax claim, and thought Outlaw played it well. Certainly well enough to win!

Oh man, Squirrel Girl was a mark of genius. I love the Great Lakes Avengers/X-Men. I think Door Man's my favourite, I love how he tries to jump in the way of bullets, etc but they just go right through him and kill their target anyway!


So, how was that for an MQM Driver?

Lostrelms
05-23-2008, 08:34 PM
SICKNESS moe...


one hellova MQM

Slim Jim
05-23-2008, 08:58 PM
TJROH


My mafia usurper role. LOL, Nevermore asked if TJ was a traitor night 1 actually. This is the first member I created for the Doom led mafia. Figured that with all the big bads in the AoE one had to be a traitor and Apocalypse fit the bill.

Mmhm. We knew there was something off with him from the start because he wouldn't post his full role PM on our hideout site, and then when he finally did the top bit was missing; it took Nevvy asking repeatedly to get that much, and then we talked via PM about it and agreed he was probably no good for us.



Oh and what's that? DJ was scum? Magneto was right? You should have listened to me? :o I had no idea really and was just trying to cobble together any excuse. Only killed him because the bus driver switched Nevvy... that ballsed things up for us a little, and then I wasn't around when Nevvy went to bat for me so I couldn't try to defend myself. Bleh, I wasn't really "up" for this game and so nearly didn't sign up; I don't think I was even involved in deciding our plans for the first night. Still, I enjoyed it when I was actually around to get involved but apologies to my AoE buddies for not exactly being at my best. Also, why am I only ever scum in themes I have no idea about? Makes faking a roleclaim hard when there are experts at every turn :rolleyes:


Good game, even if I did spend all the time after I died wishing someone would lead a lynch against Outlaw. He was quite clearly Thanos! Fairly sure we discussed that on our board but no one trusts scum :(

Nevermore
05-23-2008, 09:22 PM
Only killed him because the bus driver switched Nevvy... that ballsed things up for us a little, and then I wasn't around when Nevvy went to bat for me so I couldn't try to defend myself.

Ugh... talk about a rock and a hard place. I was racking my brains as to what to do! Let my semi-bulletproof hitman die or put my self in danger. Jeez...

I actually thought I did a half decent job of defending myself too. Only two things let me down:

DJ's single-mindedness... and we all know why that was know; didn't matter if In was scum or not :p.
Wallbanger logging on when he did :rolleyes:. I knew he'd be one to probe, so I was praying that he wouldn't be around to do so... alas.


My apologies to Slim and Lost for putting us in such a bind.

Quote The Raven
Nevermore

Slim Jim
05-23-2008, 09:29 PM
We killed DJ by accident though :( Damn bus driving... anyway, my bed is calling me... just need to find it now...

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 10:06 PM
Now now to be fair, we already had Nev and Slim pegged before your death, remember I started the lynch attempt on Slim knowing it would bring Nev to the foreground, as my previous attempts to lynch Nev hadn't worked out. /nod. While I was watching while dead, I seen all that, and that's when it hit me of the possibility that Nevermore could be the DON of Slim. Outlaw confirmed that for me after I was brought in. I for the life of me couldn't understand how the town listened to Slim, and said to themselves "I can understand that..> DJ was talking about Skrull, and so I guess he might have thought he was Scum"... I was like "BS... Which one of you townie's actually thought that at what time?" I was saying "OUTLOUD" to my monitor, Lynch him for killing me!! You know I wasn't scum... Why would someone kill someone that wasn't Scum?

However... For an instant when I was rezzed, and told that Outlaw had done it, I thought Slim might be in your group... I think I got them all but him right, I don't have the PM anymore, so not sure.

I do remember the next PM confirmed my suspicions, and I was amazed (wouldn't have bet my life I was that close). I really need to trust my instincts a bit more... I had that same uneasy feeling with Outlaw that I had with Taker (I used that against Nevermore to lynch him, but the feeling was all there around Outlaw). When THT Showed up, I litterally cursed at the computer.... I Knew THT was town, but he played backwards as hell, and didn't work with anyone that made even a typo type error. I actually think he liked me, for some reason.

I must agree that the Reds should have chosen a side and really worked to it. I honestly don't know how they figured that not killing Crychon or IER or Astil early on made any sense... instead going for bulletproof types like THT and nZane. That's what I was bassically trying to say in my responce to Lostrelms post... You don't purposely go after the most powerfull people, and say "No fair" when it was bassically the same for everyone. If you knew Outlaw was Thanos, and you were "REALLY" trying to help the town, you don't wait 6 nights to do anything about it.


And uber kudos to JBergey, while I'm at it. I know he's disappointed with having to hide away for the last few days, but he really became the lynchpin for us in doing so. He could go out there with his kills, keep the votes in our favor... perfectly executed. I can't think of one mistake that JBergey made the whole game.
I can think of one that I feel was my fault.. I explained myself afterward, but it was too late. However.... I felt so much pride when he went after Outlaw holding nothing back.... Was "BRILLIANT"! I couldn't believe how convincing it looked that he really wanted to lynch Outlaw...

I am hoping that had a factor in the doubts that Outlaw was Thanos later... It was probably the best form of reverse psychology I have ever witnessed online. An Award should be in order for that... I have no idea how much that actually effected anyone, would be interested in other's comments about it.

Bluestar, you did great. Of course we clashed heads as always, but that was necessary this time for sure. You can only imagine how much we were all ****ting ourselves when you emaciated Outlaw!
I wanted to use Bluestar so bad... But his feeding time was completely "OFF" to be used correctly... JEESH!! I still think that's the way we should have gone at the end.... Just to much fun to see his reaction when he found out he Brought downAngel or someone. Would the town blame Blue? Would they blame Supermareo? How much talk would there be of it? I think that could have amused me for another 24 hours for sure.

We knew who had the gems even before searching. We just did so to make sure there was no possibility we were wrong, and to give the town a false sense of security that maybe we HAD to search before we could kill. We also just looked at some corpses (TJRoH, The Shape, etc) for the hell of it really.

While I was town... I was sure you had to search first, before attacking. I thought this should help us protect the right people.... You had me completely fooled.... till you killed the other one.

Outlaw once again shows his mastery over this game, and I must say that when I first saw my PM and the team listing - I *knew* we would have to win. The four of us? With our combined and varied expertise in Mafia, with my vast Marvel knowledge to back us up? Surely there's only one thing that could make us better...

DJthefunkChris! With Derek dead and me only 3 days away from death, I guess we should thank the Reds for handing us the guy who can talk his way through anything. Simply brilliant playing. While he was town he was our #1 worry, made worse by the fact that we couldn't kill him. As our ally, he was awesome. Those who've teamed with him before know that he posts about as much backstage as he does in-game.
To answer your questions on the "MAIN" forum... Yeah... your that transparent....

Also, the thing Derek complained about is exactly what gave him away.;) I will wait till next time he's Scum and I'm not to tell him what gives him away so easily... Don't anyone tell him that knows.

Oh man, seeing DJ and Outlaw basically throw half their pretense out the window in the short dayphase at the end was hilarious. "My vote goes where Drax's goes!". Brilliant. nZane you did a good job as well, especially in trying to take the reigns after the previous leaders had fallen. Outlaw kept saying "Watch it... Be carefull.... Don't give it all away yet...." I wanted to make him squirm, but I was definately feeling a SW Mafia thing there.... And I think it was mainly because of the post/write-up about the WEB, Spider, and Fly... Anti wrote. Big time feelin' of a SW Mafia write-up there... Just bassically tell everyone who the bad guys really were there, why don't you!

I don't know if you noticed, but our team's lack of activity in the last couple of days was specifically designed to drag the game speed down - we basically planned on a mislynch as best case scenario. Of course I'm speaking on behalf of those Titans who were still alive lol. Taking out "IER" and "Mr. T" was essential to slowing the game down (hoping for a mislynch, not necessarily THAT day, but if we had to play it through. I always count on Crychon playing online games, and not being totally into the game.. Otherwise he's "Brilliant" at reading what roles people have. Masterded was totally "Off" this game for some reason. I think we were starting to connect right before my death, and possibly me not being able to connect with him after that might have had something to do with it (thought process... ). He is simply a great strategist... One of those people you could probably sit down to a game of chess with (if he plays), and it would become an intense game right off the bat.



Who had you down as Doom from Day 2/3 and constantly tried to bring you down? Indeed, just because one is scum doesn't mean they should be ignored :P Yeah... Nevermore made a good point, but it's NOT like they could win with the town.. It's not like one of them said... Look, guys, we want Thanos, and since you found out who I am, we will work with you. I gave FoolInc every chance in the world to do that, and he would only hint at things he didn't even know for sure, instead of outright saying "Ok, you got me. My group wants to work with you guys to rid Thanos of the game, then gloves are off". But nope. Had your chances, and blew it. I don't blame the town for lynching you guys.

Your roleclaim was good, but we did have you pegged as scum fairly early. You had the town fooled for a long time, which was well done. If only you'd paid more attention to the role hints that were abound - THT was clearly playing as though he was bulletproof, for example, while Crychon, IER, etc were all outed protectors ready to be killed.
I always thought something was off about his role. Even when I got to your boards, it didn't look like anyone knew For sure anything. Outlaw determined through elimination that it HAD to be the Concussion Blaster..

Mmhm. We knew there was something off with him from the start because he wouldn't post his full role PM on our hideout site, and then when he finally did the top bit was missing; it took Nevvy asking repeatedly to get that much, and then we talked via PM about it and agreed he was probably no good for us.



Oh and what's that? DJ was scum? Magneto was right? You should have listened to me? :o I had no idea really and was just trying to cobble together any excuse. Only killed him because the bus driver switched Nevvy... that ballsed things up for us a little, and then I wasn't around when Nevvy went to bat for me so I couldn't try to defend myself. Bleh, I wasn't really "up" for this game and so nearly didn't sign up; I don't think I was even involved in deciding our plans for the first night. Still, I enjoyed it when I was actually around to get involved but apologies to my AoE buddies for not exactly being at my best. Also, why am I only ever scum in themes I have no idea about? Makes faking a roleclaim hard when there are experts at every turn :rolleyes:


Good game, even if I did spend all the time after I died wishing someone would lead a lynch against Outlaw. He was quite clearly Thanos! Fairly sure we discussed that on our board but no one trusts scum :(

When he said "I wouldn't do that, I play better then that, you know this" I said to myself "You should have anyways... Didn't count on me bringing it up in this way". His story changed from "I can understand why Slim thought that, bad choice though". Nope... Nope... No one would have made the mistake of me being non-town. I was a "watcher" and I was Daredevil. At that time I was only looking into what MW was saying, because I was worried that BB was Skrull. Not even IER thought I was scum at that time, and he always thinks I'm scum.

By the way... There were quite a few names of scum on that list I pointed out when I was town (that voted for Mystique)... Simply forgot all about it when I turned.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 10:08 PM
We killed DJ by accident though :( Damn bus driving... anyway, my bed is calling me... just need to find it now...

LOL. You guys are very fun to play with.

Moe Hunter
05-23-2008, 10:29 PM
Magneto was right?
I have that on a T Shirt - exact design from when it was around in the Grant Morrison X-Men run. Magneto's my favourite guy and I would have loved to have had your role.

By the way... There were quite a few names of scum on that list I pointed out when I was town (that voted for Mystique)... Simply forgot all about it when I turned.
If it's the same list I'm thinking of - you had our entire group on it, completely narrowed down. If you hadn't died and came back for us, we would have been screwed.

theoutlaw321
05-23-2008, 10:33 PM
If it's the same list I'm thinking of - you had our entire group on it, completely narrowed down. If you hadn't died and came back for us, we would have been screwed.

We still had MW/sprinkle to point at! LOL

Wonder if it ever occurred to him over the last couple of days that we knew exactly who he was? Hell even before he did, and that is what made it easy to combat everything he said?

And for the record sprinkle, I did investigate you. The oops post I made yesterday was real and from Anti!

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 10:45 PM
If it's the same list I'm thinking of - you had our entire group on it, completely narrowed down. If you hadn't died and came back for us, we would have been screwed. Except Derek... but already had him pegged. Wasn't just you guys either... Take a look.

JackalBane > 16 (Midnightnick, MoeHunter, Arrows, TheHumanoidTyphoon, mjgoldeneye, Crychon, Lostrelms, theoutlaw321, i effin rule, Masterded, TheDemonSeed, jbergey_2005, Akki, Nzane, TheAussie, Nevermore)

What made me say what I said, was Outlaw's vote, believe it or not. Wanted him to squirm?

Think it worked?

Crychon
05-23-2008, 10:54 PM
Taking out "IER" and "Mr. T" was essential to slowing the game down (hoping for a mislynch, not necessarily THAT day, but if we had to play it through. I always count on Crychon playing online games, and not being totally into the game.. Otherwise he's "Brilliant" at reading what roles people have. Masterded was totally "Off" this game for some reason. I think we were starting to connect right before my death, and possibly me not being able to connect with him after that might have had something to do with it (thought process... ). He is simply a great strategist... One of those people you could probably sit down to a game of chess with (if he plays), and it would become an intense game right off the bat.

Not this game... I mean, I chose right on a lot of my protections that didn't work, but I got a lot of the scum wrong in this game, apparently, heh.

Oh, and as I didn't say this before: Well played Thanos' crew, you definitely got me, at least, hehe.

/bow

Antithesis
05-23-2008, 10:59 PM
When THT Showed up, I litterally cursed at the computer

I'll just note about THT, despite being mistaken about several things in the game, he was very knowledgable about Marvel comic books as a whole. That said, with him being so out front with his ideas, no scum ever targeted him (which I take to mean no one saw him as a threat) and no townies ever tried to protect or investigate him in any manner that I can recall. Even DGL, whom some people also disliked, was able to generate interest from people in terms of night abilities an such. Despite all the verbiage, THT did nothing to move the town's game in any direction... positive or negative.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 11:06 PM
I'll just note about THT, despite being mistaken about several things in the game, he was very knowledgable about Marvel comic books as a whole. That said, with him being so out front with his ideas, no scum ever targeted him (which I take to mean no one saw him as a threat) and no townies ever tried to protect or investigate him in any manner that I can recall. Even DGL, whom some people also disliked, was able to generate interest from people in terms of night abilities an such. Despite all the verbiage, THT did nothing to move the town's game in any direction... positive or negative.
I aggree. I also still say Arrows was trying to fool him about his role, unless somehow he already knew. Kept sidestepping me about that... I knew he was scum, but he wouldn't give me an inch.

I have no idea why he decided to "out" himself after THT left though.

djthefunkchris
05-23-2008, 11:11 PM
I always count on Crychon playing online games, and not being totally into the game.. Otherwise he's "Brilliant" at reading what roles people have.

Not this game... I mean, I chose right on a lot of my protections that didn't work, but I got a lot of the scum wrong in this game, apparently, heh.

Oh, and as I didn't say this before: Well played Thanos' crew, you definitely got me, at least, hehe.

/bow
You bolded the wrong part, fixed it for you, lol.

When in a group, your adamante about getting roles down, and on paper so to speak. I don't know what goes through your head when your by yourself, but I do find you able to see hidden hints of what you should do, even if we are not grouped, and just on the same team. These hints could be four pages back, by the time you start reading, and you pick them up (or at least it seems like it to me).

Moe Hunter
05-23-2008, 11:12 PM
Yeah, THT was a weird one. It was good to have someone else around who knew what they were on about - except that I was still more onto it than he was - honestly, how could Xavier NOT detect a flatscan using Cerebro when he can read minds without it? And I knew damn well that Doom was in that first writeup and Magneto was in that group... He would hear nothing of the sort!

Heh, imagine how things might have been if our roles were reversed!

Crychon
05-23-2008, 11:26 PM
You bolded the wrong part, fixed it for you, lol.

When in a group, your adamante about getting roles down, and on paper so to speak. I don't know what goes through your head when your by yourself, but I do find you able to see hidden hints of what you should do, even if we are not grouped, and just on the same team. These hints could be four pages back, by the time you start reading, and you pick them up (or at least it seems like it to me).

I took some pretty extensive notes this game, but I still wasn't getting much set in stone...

I caught a bunch of hints this game, but not as many as usual, and I think I believed too much of what I heard because I was pretty unfamiliar with the setting. Oh well, live and learn, hopefully I'll do better next time.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 11:32 PM
I think when I got Supermareo's Ability PM this night I immediately sent to Anti: "Nightcrawler is going to completely F over the Town tonight."

By far the worst night for the townies, and half of it was a result of one switching.





Night 5

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Blue feeding off Astil, yet again.

Blue originally intended to feed off Nevermore.

She was famished. At first she was reluctant to do what must be done to ensure her survival; but now, she was beginning to like it! The hunger consumed her, she couldn't think, all she wanted was to feed; and tonight she would make up for the meal she missed.

But it would be him, she told herself, tonight, only him. She passed countless potential meals as she wandered the streets looking for the one she'd feast on. Diligent, she tried to follow the rules she'd laid out for herself, but the Hunger was great and her will grew weaker. She needed a moment to herself, to rest, to prepare herself to ignore the hunger, to ignore her primal need.

She ducked into a dark alley. That's where she heard the peculiar noise.

**BAMF**

She turned the corner and saw her, sitting on the filthy alleyway floor, looking frightfully confused.

"You again, sweetheart?


Looks like fate has different plans for me tonight" she coldly stated as she placed her hands on the woman's shoulders.

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BIGJOSH seeing if Nevermore was Jean Grey.

He initially targeted Astil.

Cold......


Hungry


......lost.....


...Thought...


...I-I Saw Her.....


...Had to be....


....Her


....Where am I?


Been here before....


..You Again...


....silly....man.....


Where.........


..........is she


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Anti's work here. theoutlaw321 searching The Shapes body for a Gem

Though he feared no one, he knew the potential problems do-gooders could pose to him should he be discovered. So, he waited well into the night, when the town had all dispersed before approaching the gallows.

There, several bodies swayed in the cool night time breeze. Why they were still there he did not know, perhaps as a reminder to the town of their abject failure. Perhaps as a warning to all as to what was to come, however, to him, each body was an example of the strength of his dark designs. And everyday he became closer, and closer…

It wasn’t here. But he wasn’t worried. His confidence was such he knew he’d soon find them all, and then everyone would join this strange fruit growing in Central Park.

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Again Anti's work. One of my favorite write-ups this entire game. And yeah he had something else planned for this one. I thought it was a bit much so he went the breaking the fourth wall route that Deadpool is notorious for. I'm happy the way it worked out actually.

He had been on edge all night…

“Damn straight I’ve been on edge all night, Mr. Narrator guy!”

Excuse me?

“That’s right, I am talking to you pal! I see what is going on. This crummy Mafia game, damn my agent to hell! Iron Man, Hulk, they both get movie contracts, what does my agent get me, nothing but a part in some crummy forum game!”

*The Narrator is speechless*

“What, got nothing to say? Here I am, the only voice of reason.. ME. Think about that. Everyone else running around doing who knows what but here I am, stuck with this person playing me.”

What do you mean, the person playing you is…

“Yeah yeah, whatever. Let’s take tonight for example, here we have me, knowing what I do, and he goes and targets Ya_Its_Me. Who just happens to be.. well you will see in a minute, but I don’t think this was a good choice, especially since this chick has these huge Bazoongas. Oh my, its like watching two midgets fighting in a sack. In fact, I am not gonna do this. I won’t kill her. I refuse. Now, Goodbye!”

Wait, where are you going? You signed a contract! Get back here!




However, he returns in just a few short moments, covered in blood.

What happened!?!

“Well, I started talking about her and I got all excited and decided to hit her up for her phone number, but she turned me down! Can you believe that? So, I guess I err, I snapped a little and killed her.”

Wait! Wait! You killed her, off the set? You killed her.. FOR REAL?!?! POLICE! POLICE!

“Well, that’s my cue to go. Maybe I’ll see you all later. Ciao.”

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Arrows killing Astil. Once again he intended to kill Nevermore

He had been searching all night. His target was as good as dead, that he knew. If only he could find him. The Nightmare grew more and more frustrated with each passing minute as he hopelessly bounded the rooftops looking for his prey. As the frustration grew, the Nightmares patience did as well, finally stopping in a darkened alley he screamed.

"Where is he!

He Hides!

Hides from US!!!!"

Frustration soon gave way to anger, as the Nightmare thrashed about the narrow alley. Dumpsters were sent hurtling against the sides of buildings, trash cans flew into the nearby streets. A fire escape was ripped right off a building.

The rampage continued. Until.

Until he saw her laying there. Dead? No, still breathing. But certainly not aware.

The Nightmare walked up and gazed at Astil, still full of rage.

"Well I guess you'll have to do, won't you?

Tell Us.

How do your brains taste?"





Deep within the city a blood curdling shriek was heard as someone or something sensed what happened. The Phoenix Force feeling Jean's death

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djthefunkchris watching nevermore exit Astil's house and then being killed by Slim Jim.

This death to was a result of the switching. Nevermore was the one switched, thus, Doom would send his hitman to perform a hit on the wrong person; namely the person Astil meant to protect.

The BAMF heard by DJ was not that of Magneto being teleported away, but of Doom being teleported into Astil's house. Thus Doom exiting the house right after the BAMF was heard.

The man without fear had set out to once again take his post; ensuring that the city would be safe. He noticed every detail, and one thing was clear something didn't feel right.

He heard a noise in the distance.

**BAMF**

And from the house emerged someone unexpected. Right house he thought to himself, but this was definitely not the owner. He continued to survey the area trying to detect anything out of the ordinary. That's when he sensed it.

The attacker hovered behind him, the fearless one turned and swiftly threw his billy club the at the attacker. He had done so millions of times, most times he'd hit the mark perfectly, other nights he'd be slightly off by a fraction of a millimeter, on the very rare occasion, he'd miss entirely. But on this night. The club would do something completely unique.

On this night, the billy club stopped in mid air, hovered for a split second as the other man smirked, and with just the flex of the hand flew right back from where it came, striking djthefunkchris square in the head.

He was dead before he even hit the ground.

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Akki being killed by Derek B. The bits about Akki calling for help from one who had usually been around, was a direct reflection of TDS not getting his PM in. Up until now, Akki was protected every night by TDS. And then finally when he is attacked by The Titans he didn't get his PM in. TDS started having internet issues about 2 nights into this game actually, after that, I was never sure if he'd get him PM in; the next time he didn't was the night he died actually.

He was hard at work as he had been every night. Creating these machines. Machines he hoped would help the town survive this ordeal. He had one with him now, and knew just who to give it to. Someone he could trust. Someone he knew would use it well. Everything was set, he opened the door to his vast laboratory, ready to set out for the night.

On the other side of this door however, stood a problem, a mighty big problem to be exact.

The scientist opened the door and was immediatly frozen with fear as he gazed at the creature standing before him. Little time to think, the creature swiped at his throat. Down, the scientist was scrambling back across the floor now, as the hulking beast continued it's march toward him. Frantic, he reached out and grabbed the intercom. He had to be around, he had been since this whole mess started. The scientist screamed into the intercom for help, hoping his ally would be there as he usually was.

But, tonight, there was no answer.

Tonight he was alone.

The creature watched in amazement as limbs flew this way and that, one just missing him as it began punching buttons into the pad on the wall. The creature smirked and clamped down on the elongated arm with his razor sharp teeth. The scientist yelped out in pain, trying to free himself from the creatures grasp. But it was hopeless, before he knew it the beast was on top of him.

A minute, perhaps less, is all it took for the creature to drain Akki's supply of blood. He threw the body down, and began searching. He ransaked the laboratory until he found it. A red glow lit the room as the beast stared at the gem, once again satisfied with a job well done.

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BIGJOSH finding Jean Grey in death. The Phoenix would not be at full power as a result of this, It's actually stated in the write-up as well.

It had happened. The being felt it instantly and knew it to be true. How could they? How could they waste such a gift? Frantically the being made it's way to the alleyway, that had seen so much attention this night.

This could not be.

This could not stand.

But there she was, pitifully laying in this filthy place, like a vagrant. What had they done? They'd find out soon enough, the being thought to itself.

It entered the body of the fallen hero and instantly the energy flowed. Not entirely as powerful as it knew it could be. But enough to take revenge on those that foolishly let her perish. She rose from the alley and ascended high above the surrounding buildings, as she let the hatred burn. Those who were brave enough to look would say that the sky was set on fire that night. A fire with the brightest most intense heat anyone had ever thought possible. Those who were brave enough to look would later say they wish they hadn't.

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Ya_its-me is dead. He was Emma Frost Town Aligned White Queen

Astil is dead. He was Jean Grey Town Aligned Marvel Girl

djthefunkchris is dead. He was Matt Murdock (AKA Daredevil) Town Aligned Swashbuckling Man Without Fear

Akki is dead. He was Reed Richards (AKA Mr Fantastic) Town Aligned Big Brain

Abilities not Mentioned:

Crychon Protected Midnightnick as he did Every Night
Lostrelms Investigated BigJosh's Actions
nZane Investigated Derek B
Mjdgoldeneye tracked Derek B
Akki intended to give Midnightnick the Paralysis Ray
Moe Hunter Protected Midnightnick

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 11:49 PM
Ya_Its_Me
You were once one of the biggest threats to those known as the X-Men. You along with your hellfire club helped bring about The Phoenix by once controlling Jean Grey. However, time and a little perspective have caused you to change your thoughts on the X-Men. Their saving you from an attack by Trevor Fitzroy may have helped as well. This support from Professor Xavier has led to your rehabilitation and your choice to join them. With your most prized students, your daughters the Stepford Cuckoos, at your side you are determined to foil the town’s attackers.

You are Emma Frost Town Aligned White Queen

Being a powerful psychic you, Emma Frost, are able to manipulate the vote of another by PMing the name of the individuals vote you wish to change and the name of the person you’d like their vote to be placed on.

You can talk with your daughters out of the thread; they are:

<Trypio> Celeste Cuckoo
<Shamlessposer> Phoebe Cuckoo



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

Funny enough, Ya informed us that we should start looking for a replacement this very night phase. By then we had already RNG'ed the thing and knew he was going to die at the hands of IER this night anyway, so it wasn't a problem.

Emma had a straight politician role, and was one of 2 who could manipulate votes in this manner. I had thought that he outed himself as being aligned with Shameless day one, but there was enough ambiguity about him that IER chose him for "protection."

I'm not sure that Ya understood the politician role entirely. As day 1 he switched Midnightnicks vote, placing it on somebody else. Which was lucky as MNN's vote counted for two, thus that move was keeping Shameless alive.

However, somebody placed a hammer vote on Shameless and Ya panicked choosing to switch that persons vote, effectively allowing MNN's two votes to go back on Shameless and thus killing him. Was a weird chain of events that nobody in the game saw, since, it only came off as Shameless being lynched with the appropriate amount of votes on him.

Imarevenant
05-23-2008, 11:59 PM
Astil
You possess the most powerful human mind in the universe. Even before his death Professor Xavier’s mind was second to yours. You are a founding member of the X-men and are no stranger to protecting those in need; a service your fellow town members will need in these trying times.

You are Jean Grey Town Aligned Marvel Girl

Each night you can choose to protect another individual, placing a telekinetic shield around them, by PMing the name of the individual you would like to protect. You cannot protect yourself.

Through your psychic abilities, you’ve become aware that there are others in the town, looking for you! What their intentions are once they’ve found you are not known however, therefore it would be wise to keep your identity a guarded secret.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town are eliminated

So, yeah, Jean, there was so much planned for her.

First, in death TPF automatically took over, because, we didn't want to shut TPF out of the game if somebody got to Jean first. So we decided Jean would be taken over in death but Dark Phoenix would lose it's effectiveness if that's how he took her over.

So when Bigjosh finally got to become Dark Phoenix, he received a night kill for his troubles, however, one that was only 50/50 in it's usefulness as TPF was fighting Jean's mind, even in death. In that capacity, Dark Phoenix's kills could be blocked/prevented, and he requrired exactly 2/3rds to be lynched not the 2/3rds + 1 that he would have gotten if he'd found Jean himself.

What would have happened if he found her himself, you ask?

He still would have had to fight Jean's conscious, but this conscious would be controlled by Astil.

Astil and BigJosh would have entered a mini-game each night. Astil would PM either the number 1 or 2. Bigjosh would have done the same, except BJ would also send in the name of someone to kill. The numbers would be added together if Odd BIGJOSH would have won, and the target would be killed. If Even, then Astil wins and no kill would have taken place.

These kills would have been upreventable, no blocking or roleblocking would have stopped them, just like the Gauntlet wielding Thanos. Phoenix would have been completely invulnerable at night, except to a Gauntlet wielding Thanos, and it would have been 2/3rds + 1 to lynch him.

Had Jean died after TPF already taken control. The reigns would have been completely taken off Phoenix, he having an unpreventable kill every night.

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 12:00 AM
If "votes" are going to be clue's intended, then we need to make sure we get "Official" vote counts for the end of lynch's. I know most the time we did this game, I haven't gone back to look at that one.... Not that I would have thought to look anyways (at the time).

Imarevenant
05-24-2008, 12:06 AM
djthefunkchris
Ha Ha! You are the town’s resident Swashbuckler. You fear no man, and are always up for a good adventure. With your super powered senses you are determined to find out who is responsible for the newest attacks on the town.

You are Matt Murdock (AKA Daredevil) Town Aligned Swashbuckling Man Without Fear

With your heightened senses (Bah! Who needs sight) you are confident that nothing will occur during the night that you aren’t aware of. Each night you can survey the house of another to learn whether or not the individual was targeted by another player.

To choose a house to watch, PM the name of the owner of the house.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

Our :ahem: watcher. You have no idea how much **** dj gave me in PM for making DD a watcher :p

To answer a question asked in thread Day 2. No, DJ would not detected Thanos using a mind gem on somebody. I almost made him incapable of detecting the cuckoos probing someone's mind, but didn't.

DJ did as well as anybody in this role given his confusion after night 1. I knew I should have added a joke (about him already knowing he targeted MNN) after putting his name in the report of everyone that targeted MNN. Given that he was outed, he still made the best of the role and helped lead the town in the early going; well.......I guess he helped lead the town in the late game too, just not in the right direction :p

Imarevenant
05-24-2008, 12:09 AM
If "votes" are going to be clue's intended, then we need to make sure we get "Official" vote counts for the end of lynch's. I know most the time we did this game, I haven't gone back to look at that one.... Not that I would have thought to look anyways (at the time).


Yeah, I know, we were bad about official vote counts after lynches :o

I tried in the early going, Anti just seemed to have something against them and always forgot :p . So I ended up giving up :cool:

Imarevenant
05-24-2008, 12:17 AM
Akki
You are the supreme scientific intellect on earth. Even before the Cosmic Rays further enhanced your intellect your intelligence was unparalleled. You have a mastery of electrical engineering, aerospace engineering, chemistry, physics, and even human and alien biology. And it is your ability to put this knowledge to use by creating amazing inventions that are going to be most useful for the town.

You are Reed Richards (AKA Mr. Fantastic) Town Aligned Big Brain

On 5 occasions you can choose to invent and distribute a device that will help the town. Unfortunately you can not use this device yourself, and so, must give it to someone else by PMing the name of the player you wish to give it too. Be warned that there is nothing restricting you from giving your gift to an enemy, thus possibly aiding in their destruction of the town. You can only give out each invention once.

The inventions you can create and give out are:

Paralysis Ray- Will allow the recipient to block another player from their night-time activities on one occasion.
Roving Eye Television Camera- Will allow the recipient to track another players night time activities on one occasion.
The Ultimate Nullifier- Will allow the recipient to perform one night kill throughout the game.
The Awesome Android- The Awesome Android will provide protection for the recipient until the time that it is destroyed. Unfortunately it is a prototype and destroying it is not too difficult as such it will be destroyed if the recipient is targeted at night for any reason.
Sedative- There are many in the town in a rage, this sedative can eliminate these feelings. Be careful however, as those not in a rage may experience severe side-effects.

As the leader of the Fantastic 4 and one of the premier minds on earth you have become a member of The Illuminati. You and your fellow Illuminati are charged with the protection of the Infinity Gems. You and your group have vowed not to use the incredible power these Gems possess and as such the Power Gem in your custody grants you no special power. However, the recent events have shown that there are some that wish to harness the great power of the Gems to use for their own purposes. With two members of the Illuminati already dead it is up to the rest of you to avenge their deaths and protect the Gems.

You may talk to the remaining members of the Illuminati outside of the game thread. They are:

<THEDEMONSEED> Black Bolt
<Midnightnick> Namor
<Gonvick> Dr. Strange



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when those responsible for the deaths of your fellow Illuminati members and all other threats to the town have been eliminated.

Unfortunately only one of these inventions saw any use (The Awesome Android) and it was destroyed by Crychon who was trying to protect TDS.

The Ultimate Nullifier and the Roving Eye camera were both lost when Gonvick died on Night 2.

And yeah, Moe, it was tempting to make the Nullifier an insane weapon, but we figured a night kill was enough for it game-wise. So for those counting, Blackbolt had a Kill, The Ultimate Nullifier gave them another kill, and Namor in essence had a kill as well. The Illuminati was pretty well stocked I'd say; and they distributed these inventions amongst themselves, as I thought they would. Figured Namor would get more of them though, as he had no night ability to speak of.

The death of Akki gave the Titans the power gem. This gave them the ability to get the role of people Thanos used the Mind Gem on and allowed them to use the Soul Gems powered up ability, that of bringing a dead soul back to life.

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 12:20 AM
I'd like to say I personally like the way it seemed Supermareo's role worked. I have no idea for sure yet, but it seemed to me he had a limit, or at least a choice (To use, or not to use) to use the ability.

In my opinion... all the abilities except "Psychotic" should have the ability "Not" to do something as well... Like some of the mods say "Please PM me one way or another". Psychotic should have some sort of choice as well, with a Maximum of how many times he can NOT kill or something.. I liked Arrows role, if it was how he outlined it.

Definately Scum groups should have a choice not to kill. Like I said earlier, I have no idea exactly what choice's the red team have, and I'm not talking specifically about THIS game.

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 12:37 AM
I understand the opinion that some groups should have the option of being able to not kill. But think of it from the other side. What would happen if they all had the option? You have the potential to get into a cat and mouse game where as no one is sending in a kill to try and stay hidden. This drags the game out to the point where I think that alot of people would lose interest as there would not be so much going on. I hold the opinion that some should continue to be required to send in a kill nightly. My 0.02's.

Another point that needs to be made. Early role claiming only hinders the town in the end. Almost without fail. If you get down to the end phases and everyone is out in the open but the bad guys, you may think you have an advantage, when in fact all you have done is make the choices for the bad guys easy if they are paying attention. Guess that makes 0.04?

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 12:38 AM
djthefunkchris


Our :ahem: watcher. You have no idea how much **** dj gave me in PM for making DD a watcher :p

To answer a question asked in thread Day 2. No, DJ would not detected Thanos using a mind gem on somebody. I almost made him incapable of detecting the cuckoos probing someone's mind, but didn't.

DJ did as well as anybody in this role given his confusion after night 1. I knew I should have added a joke (about him already knowing he targeted MNN) after putting his name in the report of everyone that targeted MNN. Given that he was outed, he still made the best of the role and helped lead the town in the early going; well.......I guess he helped lead the town in the late game too, just not in the right direction :p

Well... I personally liked the ability, just you know... A blind man watching everyone....

Anyways, I got excited, thinking I figured something out right off the bat. I wanted to make sure if someone seen me doing something else, It wasn't me. Come to find out, that character was in the game, and "Could" have impersanated me, but was the same allignment (at the time).

This is the first time I've been able to go out and recieve a "result" back. I don't know what the normal PM is from a Watcher.. Figured my name wouldn't be on there, because I am the one watching (and it's obvious).

Sorry for outing myself so early in the game (first time I ever did that I think). I "goofed" up and jumped the gun... I was supposed to be heading out shortly, and just didn't want Player "B" going... Djthefunkchris was at MNN's but he wasn't watching!

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 12:41 AM
I understand the opinion that some groups should have the option of being able to not kill. But think of it from the other side. What would happen if they all had the option? You have the potential to get into a cat and mouse game where as no one is sending in a kill to try and stay hidden. This drags the game out to the point where I think that alot of people would lose interest as there would not be so much going on. I hold the opinion that some should continue to be required to send in a kill nightly. My 0.02's.


I aggree with the part I didn't quote.

As for this... It's not that you should be able to constantly stay in, as much as maybe and "Either do this" or "Do That" maybe. Perhaps an option to "Frame or Kill or Block"... Or maybe out of three things, you have to do two... Something along these lines. Especially if you have a "Designated" hit man... and you know there is someone going to follow him that night.

Antithesis
05-24-2008, 12:45 AM
I can understand wanting official vote counts. I don't recall anyone PMing for one. There was, I think one instance in the game where it was specifically asked about and Rev made an official count.

Personally though, as a guy who played a politician who had to use a lynch (actually a mislynch that day) to prove his role claim, and to prove the role claim of a multi voter, I don't think its fair to for a mod to shine a light at the votes like, look here, funny stuff is going on !! It can be used to eventually force people into a position that maybe they don't want to be in.

That said though, there were several politicians/multi voters/ in the game, along with some vote negation. I probably should have been more active in counting votes so people might catch on to it, but there was a week or so there where family issues precluded all that.

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 12:48 AM
I can understand wanting official vote counts. I don't recall anyone PMing for one. There was, I think one instance in the game where it was specifically asked about and Rev made an official count.

Personally though, as a guy who played a politician who had to use a lynch (actually a mislynch that day) to prove his role claim, and to prove the role claim of a multi voter, I don't think its fair to for a mod to shine a light at the votes like, look here, funny stuff is going on !! It can be used to eventually force people into a position that maybe they don't want to be in.

That said though, there were several politicians/multi voters/ in the game, along with some vote negation. I probably should have been more active in counting votes so people might catch on to it, but there was a week or so there where family issues precluded all that.

LOL, I can remember a certain someone tearing into a certain nameless mod about something such as this! LOL

masterded
05-24-2008, 12:50 AM
I didn’t want to claim the Hulk when I did, but I was in a weird place. People wanted to go after me because I wanted to go after people on the list. Then someone suggested something about wanting people to vote for me and my talk of triggers came up and such. Heck, I had a good idea of what my trigger was and never thought it was a vote thing or a death of someone close thing. Just went with for 2 reasons, 1 so I wouldn’t flip out at the people going after me for wanting to go after the people on the list and so people might still target me (though I was never quite sure what would happen until it did).

Antithesis
05-24-2008, 12:53 AM
I aggree with the part I didn't quote.

As for this... It's not that you should be able to constantly stay in, as much as maybe and "Either do this" or "Do That" maybe. Perhaps an option to "Frame or Kill or Block"... Or maybe out of three things, you have to do two... Something along these lines. Especially if you have a "Designated" hit man... and you know there is someone going to follow him that night.

Well then you get in a situation where, of its a group, some one person doesn'ts end in their PM, it throws everything else off.

In hindsight, one thing that made Outlaw so effective this game was he controlled the actions of all his minions at night. The kills, the protections, the investigations, everything came from one source.

There have been groups (towna nd scum) who were messed up or ruined by failing to do what needed to be done.

TDS having internet issues and not protecting Akki this game is an example of that. Not saying TDS is to blame.. stuff happens. But its because stuff can happen that having central control over kills is what makes Mafia groups dangerous.

Otherwise you'd have a group like that one in the cartoon chaos game, had a watcher a framer, but they couldn't really do anything because they lacked a killer...

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 12:53 AM
I can understand wanting official vote counts. I don't recall anyone PMing for one. There was, I think one instance in the game where it was specifically asked about and Rev made an official count.

Personally though, as a guy who played a politician who had to use a lynch (actually a mislynch that day) to prove his role claim, and to prove the role claim of a multi voter, I don't think its fair to for a mod to shine a light at the votes like, look here, funny stuff is going on !! It can be used to eventually force people into a position that maybe they don't want to be in.

That said though, there were several politicians/multi voters/ in the game, along with some vote negation. I probably should have been more active in counting votes so people might catch on to it, but there was a week or so there where family issues precluded all that.
All that stuff is understandable Anti. I told you how I felt about that already, I would hate to go through that at any time.

Far as Official vote counts.. I mean as a normal thing in the games, to go ahead and give "Official" counts maybe in the lynch Write-up. I remember a game where that was done I think. It eliminates the burden of asking, fear of rejection, etc. And it also makes it more matter-of-fact, where something in there might not get noticed because of regularity.

Personally, when I read about "Politician" type roles on the other mafia websights (about abilities specifically), they read as "Be carefull using this ability, as it is VERY powerful used correctly. Using it throughout a game is effective, but draws attention.. which is in my opinion part of the strategy of the ability in the first place.. Knowing when to hold it, knowing when to use it.

Being the "Last" vote negates ease of being "Outed"... Voting every lynch at any time, makes it easy to find you. If you must vote for other strategic reasons (like looking less scummy), make sure your the hammer, etc.

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 12:53 AM
I aggree with the part I didn't quote.

As for this... It's not that you should be able to constantly stay in, as much as maybe and "Either do this" or "Do That" maybe. Perhaps an option to "Frame or Kill or Block"... Or maybe out of three things, you have to do two... Something along these lines. Especially if you have a "Designated" hit man... and you know there is someone going to follow him that night.

Most of the time, the mafia groups are composed of the means to combat anything the town has. They are the minority. For instance the red team in this game had a role blocker, investigator, and some other roles.

All of the protectors were outed on day 2, except Blasph and the one in the Illumaniti(sp.) We knew the watcher>you. We knew the tracker>mjd.

If we had been able, we could have wiped all those roles out. But seeing as we could only hit gem holders without penalty we had to rely on the red team and the sk.

Both of which did little to help our cause and honestly theirs.

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 12:57 AM
Well then you get in a situation where, of its a group, some one person doesn'ts end in their PM, it throws everything else off.

In hindsight, one thing that made Outlaw so effective this game was he controlled the actions of all his minions at night. The kills, the protections, the investigations, everything came from one source.

There have been groups (towna nd scum) who were messed up or ruined by failing to do what needed to be done.

TDS having internet issues and not protecting Akki this game is an example of that. Not saying TDS is to blame.. stuff happens. But its because stuff can happen that having central control over kills is what makes Mafia groups dangerous.

Otherwise you'd have a group like that one in the cartoon chaos game, had a watcher a framer, but they couldn't really do anything because they lacked a killer...

It wasn't a dictatorship. You can ask anyone in the group. We discussed the upcoming night throught the day phase. If we get this one lynched we do this? Suggestions for targets? Etc? I have been in groups that didn't function like that.

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 01:01 AM
If they had a framer, that could backwards Frame... Then I have no complaints about their abilities if they had to kill..

I'm mainly going from one of the other games, where we had to put up with a day investigator that was obviously going to be protected, and would throw our names around every day phase, with the town easily eliminating the "Good" guys from it. No way of making any of us look "Town", and no way to "Block" the daytime investigation (we tried, it didn't work). Yet we HAD to kill, no matter what. "I protected "X", I followed "Y", I watched "Z", "Ummm... I guess I was the killer then." The only time I think he (Astil) was vulnerable to us was night 1, BEFORE we knew nothing we did would work against him.

Antithesis
05-24-2008, 01:02 AM
LOL, I can remember a certain someone tearing into a certain nameless mod about something such as this! LOL


hehe


That was so stressful for me at the time. I know I put myself into that position by loudly claiming I was a politician beforehand. I just didn't want to shine a spot light on the votes and possibly recreate a scenario where people might be forced to mislynch someone else just to help prove themselves. And then, even like what you are talking about, maybe wanting to pressure the mod to make sure the write up for the lynch reflects it.

Its not that I purposefully waited until extra votes had been cast. I always counted whenever I was online, its just I think going back and making an official count for every vote is like dropping a subtle hint, ya know.

I didn't want to do that.

Antithesis
05-24-2008, 01:08 AM
It wasn't a dictatorship. You can ask anyone in the group. We discussed the upcoming night throught the day phase. If we get this one lynched we do this? Suggestions for targets? Etc? I have been in groups that didn't function like that.

I mean dictator as in your role.. As Thanos you had their absolute loyalty such that you controlled their every move at night.

I didn't mean you were making all the decisions for your group just that it was you alone who were responsible for sending in your entire groups night actions (and day actions with the voting gem).

Unlike say most mafias, you didn't have to rely on the person playing the mafia prostitute to role block someone, or rely on the mafia cop to send in a PM to investigate someone, all that came from one source. So all the power in your group (in terms of night actions) was localized in you.

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 01:09 AM
I mean dictator as in your role.. As Thanos you had their absolute loyalty such that you controlled their every move at night.

I didn't mean you were making all the decisions for your group just that it was you alone who were responsible for sending in your entire groups night actions (and day actions with the voting gem).

Unlike say most mafias, you didn't have to rely on the person playing the mafia prostitute to role block someone, or rely on the mafia cop to send in a PM to investigate someone, all that came from one source. So all the power in your group (in terms of night actions) was localized in you.

/nods

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 01:09 AM
Happy Birthday masterded!

djthefunkchris
05-24-2008, 01:11 AM
It wasn't a dictatorship. You can ask anyone in the group. We discussed the upcoming night throught the day phase. If we get this one lynched we do this? Suggestions for targets? Etc? I have been in groups that didn't function like that.

I think what he means is in groups that rely on other's getting their PM's in as well... You were able to say what all of us did, and even if we weren't active, you could have done the same things at night.

Imagine had you not been able to get the PM in? See how that would have effected the rest of the group?

That's another thing... Something I think should be allowed... If your in a group, and for some reason your not able to communicate with them (they aren't active), instead of just letting everything be determined with dice or just "Nothing" happens, let someone that is active in the group say what they want to happen, and if no one else PM's, use that as the way that group goes.

Also, what Anti said earlier about allowing players to send in their night PM's before Night phase, can help as well (People going out of town for a day, etc.).

Example using all of these things:

Player A is Mafia Don. He sends in a PM to kill, protect, and frame. He also says, Please let "Z" and "T" change this if need be. Then he is gone 8 hours before the day phase is over (out of town, be back tomorrow). However, something in the thread makes another member "T" that is active realise this is going to be "BAD" for them, because of a conversation in the thread. Sends in a PM saying "Change of plans... Allow us to do this, that and the other thing instead please."

Has to be rules, where the "DON" or whoever, has to make a decision who is allowed to change plans while they are unavailable.

Also, if the "DON" isn't active... allow the group to still decide on something, if they let you know the don hasn't shown up.

Akki
05-24-2008, 01:28 AM
Jeez, my computer stops working for a day and a half, and look how much I missed!

Well, I do have to take a large part of the credit for the the Titans winning the game. I mean, I messed up big Day 1, and things just kept going downhill. The person I gave a night kill (and investigation) to dies. I miss Nick's PM by a few minutes, which may have stopped Shape's death. I pretty much out TDS (to get him off a scum list).

To be honest, I think I was a mess in this game. I mean, I'm surprised that the game took so long to finish, given how badly I had messed up when I was alive. But to be honest, and I told Rev this, I was appaled at how the town was playing late in the game. People seemed to be treating Day 10 like Day 1. Everyone blindly followed DJ, just because he had 10 posts every minute, it seems. He "forgets" about me confirming TDS, and so does everyone else. I was just shocked. The whole Arrows affair shocked me, too. Really, I think I started the snowball, and it just kept rolling downhill and getting steam for Outlaw and his crew.

Imarevenant
05-24-2008, 02:15 AM
Jeez, my computer stops working for a day and a half, and look how much I missed!

Well, I do have to take a large part of the credit for the the Titans winning the game. I mean, I messed up big Day 1, and things just kept going downhill. The person I gave a night kill (and investigation) to dies. I miss Nick's PM by a few minutes, which may have stopped Shape's death. I pretty much out TDS (to get him off a scum list).

To be honest, I think I was a mess in this game. I mean, I'm surprised that the game took so long to finish, given how badly I had messed up when I was alive. But to be honest, and I told Rev this, I was appaled at how the town was playing late in the game. People seemed to be treating Day 10 like Day 1. Everyone blindly followed DJ, just because he had 10 posts every minute, it seems. He "forgets" about me confirming TDS, and so does everyone else. I was just shocked. The whole Arrows affair shocked me, too. Really, I think I started the snowball, and it just kept rolling downhill and getting steam for Outlaw and his crew.

LOL, middle of day one, I got a PM from Outlaw that said:

"You must be screaming at your computer screen seeing them outing themselves like this."

This was after he told me he pegged Gonvick as Illuminati as well.

Couldn't tell him at the time, but my jaw hit the floor seeing two of the most important townies out themselves so quickly.

The funny thing is I saw Blue setting up the trap and my first thought was I hope the Illuminati don't fall for it. And sure enough you, MNN and Arrows fell into it; somehow everyone glossed over Arrows though.

Imarevenant
05-24-2008, 02:16 AM
Oh and...

Happy Birthday Masterded

Antithesis
05-24-2008, 02:22 AM
Yeah Arrows all but said he was Venom day 2.

I think the town would have benefitted from me playing (had I not been a co-mod) due to my natural inclination to distrust Outlaw and to oppose him in every meaningful way! :D

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 02:29 AM
Yeah Arrows all but said he was Venom day 2.

I think the town would have benefitted from me playing (had I not been a co-mod) due to my natural inclination to distrust Outlaw and to oppose him in every meaningful way! :D

Hey they had Blue and mjd!

And poor nZane. My head says this, but my gut tells me you are Thanos! LOL

sprinkle made it easy in the end. Serves him right for jumping in there when he was all but lynched! Though looking back it might have worked out better for us him in the game!

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 02:30 AM
And poor nZane. My head says this, but my gut tells me you are Thanos! LOL



Trust your head I say!

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 02:34 AM
I would put the vote on myself, but as we all know that is a big scum tell, plus I'd be helping to lynch a townie so it would hurt the town.

Honestly, what can I say to regain my name, there's nothing.
I just know that I am town-aligned and that I fear for the town in this game.
Outlaw is a very experienced player and is much better at making a case for showing how horrible someone's been at this game...see: my mistakes about my roleclaim.
I'm only grasping at straws things to do to help myself and save the town, but I don't really see the point anymore...
change vote: sprinklefurball

You're right it isn't gonna help, but how's it gonna hurt? You guys are on the path of lynching me anyways I'm just helping you speed up the process. :D

I'm waiting for a noose... hello?

I'm getting fitted for it right now...just gotta wait for that one last vote...

If the lynch doesn't occur and I don't get killed tonight, are we going to waste the next day phase lynching me?

Okay, either way I'm logging off.

I'll be back next day phase if I'm not dead.

I'm busy tomorrow so I'll try to make sure to check as soon as I can.

The last post was 28 minutes before the end of the phase. I was LMAO. Knowing that jb was the only one that would possibly be around to hammer if we wanted.

Couldn't have written that up any better if I wanted to. LOL

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 02:35 AM
5 people knew it would no lynch. sprinkle wasn't one of them. Damn his reaction, he looked guilty as sin!

nZane
05-24-2008, 02:41 AM
Trust your head I say!Oh yeah, THAT worked out well for me. During the course of this game, listening to my head failed me and listening to my gut failed me. There is another part of my anatomy that I could listen to, but uhh.... it wouldn't really help me too much in this game, I don't think. :D

BlueStar
05-24-2008, 02:45 AM
The funny thing is I saw Blue setting up the trap and my first thought was I hope the Illuminati don't fall for it. And sure enough you, MNN and Arrows fell into it; somehow everyone glossed over Arrows though.

My strategy was getting myself a confirmed townie as soon as possible so I could later claim the Miller role and even give my role.

If I hadn't done that, town would have gone Mystique on me.

Didn't intend to get another good group outed. Lol...

I noted Arrows slip-up as well, had him pegged as Indi from the start (I think I PM-ed that when I said: Arrow's list contains at least 4 scum and he's scum himself or something).

Akki
05-24-2008, 11:43 AM
Looking back at the Illuminati board the first few days... Funny stuff. After someone called out the Blue townie thing:

Think it's better for me not to say anything? Maybe they'll just forget about it?

Hooray for Captain Optimism.

Our original plan was actually to try to get the possibility of a Fantastic Four group in people's minds (look how that worked out), and then if anyone claimed those roles, I would call them on it.

Also, Day 2:

If Venom does have the reality gem, maybe he is the one the Sedative is for?

think arrows killed tj or would that be too easy?

Probably too easy, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Yeah... We weren't TOTALLY useless... At least until we started dying off.

mjdgoldeneye
05-24-2008, 12:05 PM
Hey they had Blue and mjd!

That probably had a lot to do with why I thought you were Thanos... lol...

The Shape
05-24-2008, 12:27 PM
Didn't keep up with the end-game but kudos to thanos and co...I think the town let you off really lightly with regards to thanos not being active the night bluestar went for outlaw but with the combined talking power of him and dj it's not difficult to see why. Obviously not happy about my own death but it did save i_e_r's life, as having got a kill ability from him I was certain that he was scum and his percentage-based protection claim was bollocks, heh.

Interested to see the summaries and **** but that's all from me for now...a combination of exams + me knowing **** all about the subject matter mean I won't be playing the next one.

BlueStar
05-24-2008, 12:39 PM
Good luck with the exams, Shape and see you in another game!

theoutlaw321
05-24-2008, 12:52 PM
That probably had a lot to do with why I thought you were Thanos... lol...

Yeah you and 35 others! LOL

BlueStar
05-24-2008, 04:14 PM
Yeah you and 35 others! LOL

I think I was one of the only ones who was 99,9% sure you were. Basically 2 things:

1. Your claim of investigator where you said you couldn't perform actions twice because of me. Didn't add up at all....
2. My role PM and my ability not completely matching up, but I asked Rev about that before. My PM seemed to suggest I could block someone's night action but in fact I could only block the next day and the next night.

A small third: you were playing Sprinkle 2.0 as you did to me during E-Ville. It's a pretty nifty trick: get all the small quotes, put them in a random order and pretend the other slipped up.

I think during the last 4 days my vote was stuck on you, outlaw. During the last day I even said "I'm willing to change"...even though I wasn't going to change. Thought 'Banger jumping on your bandwagon might have clinched it but ...

That being said, I'm the guy who's normally in for mis-lynching. The only game I'm halfway decent, and I don't win... :( :p
But great game and I think that you were the underdogs from the start in this one. Day 1 whole town says: "we need to get Thanos"....by day 10..."who cares?"

/shakes head

BlueStar
05-24-2008, 04:25 PM
And great team play as well....Moe & Jbergey...knew pretty early when they went after me. Also there was a bandwagon on them both that suddenly stopped. But I didn't expect them to be on the same team though. Also both have different playing styles....Moe's the MQM-guy (Sorry, Moe, you'll never get rid of that name), while Jbergy doesn't mind not posting for about 3-4 days just to cover his $ss. Not a tactic I prefer, but effective. Having a combo like that does really help.

Somehow that reminds me of what R&B could have been like if Slim, nZane and I had been on the same time zone. There wouldn't have been a stupid mechanical whale then....or if there was, it would have been played more solidly.

Memories....

Moe Hunter
05-24-2008, 07:56 PM
Abilities not Mentioned:

Moe Hunter Protected Midnightnick

I just want to point this out to everyone - I *did* protect MNN like I said I did. It wasn't every night - Night 1 I was trying to kill him, and Night 2 Outlaw decided he needed the protection, but every time I talked about how MJD could track me and see that I was there, or that DJ could watch him and see me there - I was being honest. Neither of them did watch/track me, but oh well.

Interested to see the summaries and **** but that's all from me for now...a combination of exams + me knowing **** all about the subject matter mean I won't be playing the next one.
The next Mafia game (Heroes) or the next Marvel Mafia (my Civil War game)? If it's the former, I too won't be in it - I don't know anything about Heroes and do intend on watching the show one day, so I don't want to run into any spoilers.

And great team play as well....Moe & Jbergey...knew pretty early when they went after me. Also there was a bandwagon on them both that suddenly stopped. But I didn't expect them to be on the same team though. Also both have different playing styles....Moe's the MQM-guy (Sorry, Moe, you'll never get rid of that name), while Jbergy doesn't mind not posting for about 3-4 days just to cover his $ss. Not a tactic I prefer, but effective. Having a combo like that does really help.

Oh believe me, I love the whole MQM thing. It's a great gimick :)

theoutlaw321
05-25-2008, 02:23 AM
1. Your claim of investigator where you said you couldn't perform actions twice because of me. Didn't add up at all....


This was something you were stuck on. I said that I lost my ability to day investigate by being targetted the night before. I left the option of going after you open by first saying that you cost me both days. Even though that TDS had already hinted at protecting me the second night. ;)

He later confirmed that he did. Thus backing up my claim and making your point moot. You didn't cost me the second day, he did.

Oh and for the record, we knew that you were town aligned like night 4. My investigations gave me role and alignment. Did you not think it was odd that dj was able to just come right out and say who you were?

Destiny
05-25-2008, 05:35 AM
That see-saw voting between outlaw and sprinkle was close for a while. I did keep my vote on outlaw, but it was such a shame sprinkle couldn't defend himself better.

The Shape
05-25-2008, 05:37 AM
The next Mafia game (Heroes) or the next Marvel Mafia (my Civil War game)? If it's the former, I too won't be in it - I don't know anything about Heroes and do intend on watching the show one day, so I don't want to run into any spoilers.

The heroes one...all I know is that the asian guy who plays Franklin in Scrubs is in it :o

Moe Hunter
05-25-2008, 07:10 AM
Yeah, I only know that Hiro guy from his bit-part in the Sarah Silverman Program.

nZane
05-25-2008, 07:48 AM
That see-saw voting between outlaw and sprinkle was close for a while. I did keep my vote on outlaw, but it was such a shame sprinkle couldn't defend himself better.In his defense, Sprinkle had to step in to a very awkward situation and almost immediately defend himself against one of the best mafia players around here. There aren't too many of us who can really stand toe-to-toe with Outlaw in any situation, let alone one like that.

I am left to wonder how things would have gone had MW not gone quiet on us, though.

theoutlaw321
05-25-2008, 07:50 AM
That see-saw voting between outlaw and sprinkle was close for a while. I did keep my vote on outlaw, but it was such a shame sprinkle couldn't defend himself better.

Poor sprinkle. LOL I checked out MW early, before sprinkle replaced him. I knew who he was; and was able to make him look bad even though he was telling the truth. As long as there was another that could be pointed at as being Thanos we had doubt we could feed.

BlueStar
05-25-2008, 08:12 AM
In his defense, Sprinkle had to step in to a very awkward situation and almost immediately defend himself against one of the best mafia players around here. There aren't too many of us who can really stand toe-to-toe with Outlaw in any situation, let alone one like that.

I am left to wonder how things would have gone had MW not gone quiet on us, though.


Yep...felt bad for sprinkle but outlaw did me in the same way in E-Ville.

In Sprinkle's defence: his story checked out. I'm surprised that a few experienced players found Outlaw more believable.

djthefunkchris
05-25-2008, 08:31 AM
Yep...felt bad for sprinkle but outlaw did me in the same way in E-Ville.

In Sprinkle's defence: his story checked out. I'm surprised that a few experienced players found Outlaw more believable.

Drax just knocked the Concussion Blaster through a wall.

Vision bassically vaporized Venoms mind.

Drax just didn't look as evil to me (at least with that comparison).

BlueStar
05-25-2008, 01:36 PM
Drax just knocked the Concussion Blaster through a wall.

Vision bassically vaporized Venoms mind.

Drax just didn't look as evil to me (at least with that comparison).

Hmmm...but about 2 or 3 townies saying "reverb" or having some result that made no sense, it just made sense. I thought it was a great role. Didn't doubt it for a second, not even when MW was still in there. Always felt he was looking to draw a killer onto him with his Skrull-rhymes.

Destiny
05-25-2008, 01:51 PM
Hmmm...but about 2 or 3 townies saying "reverb" or having some result that made no sense, it just made sense. I thought it was a great role. Didn't doubt it for a second, not even when MW was still in there. Always felt he was looking to draw a killer onto him with his Skrull-rhymes.

Same. Scum wouldn't have drawn attention to themselves like that. His silence actually helped him, as for the most-part, he wasn't receiving questions.

BlueStar
05-25-2008, 02:38 PM
Same. Scum wouldn't have drawn attention to themselves like that. His silence actually helped him, as for the most-part, he wasn't receiving questions.


Only one thing, in my opinion, really made him suspicious...you (involuntarily -Is that English?!-) claimed PGO (thanks DJ!). Outlaw played off the thing of having 2 PGO's...

But this is all hindsight and let's not forget the fun of this game. I'll once again say it: the moment we (town) went after Lost, instead of focussing on Thanos-outlaw, we did ourselves in.

theoutlaw321
05-25-2008, 03:31 PM
Only one thing, in my opinion, really made him suspicious...you (involuntarily -Is that English?!-) claimed PGO (thanks DJ!). Outlaw played off the thing of having 2 PGO's...

But this is all hindsight and let's not forget the fun of this game. I'll once again say it: the moment we (town) went after Lost, instead of focussing on Thanos-outlaw, we did ourselves in.

The funny thing is that I still don't think anyone has let it sink in yet. We couldn't target non gem holders until we had all the gems. If the Red groupd would have took out obvious targets and the Sk wouldn't have outed himself and took out ones that needed to be taken out. Namely the protectors, mjd, and nZane then this game would have been vastly different.

Antithesis
05-25-2008, 03:41 PM
Not only that, but I know DJ has argued that it may have been an advantage, being able to select when you wanted to go for the kill, but for most of the game you could only kill 5 targets, all of whom should have been obvious (role wise) to everyone in the game, town or scum. This was in no way an easy task , to get to these people, given their abilities and the number of protectors in the game. There was some luck (some folks not sending in their PMs) and a lot of skill (picking up who had which role without even having to use the Mind Gem most times).

theoutlaw321
05-25-2008, 03:46 PM
Oh don't get me wrong. I know we were lucky. I would rather be lucky then good any day of the week. Though sometimes it doesn't hurt to be both! ;)

BlueStar
05-25-2008, 03:55 PM
I think I already said it...the odds were stacked against you. Really.../bows.

It proves that the game had balance. I thought the whole Horsemen thing had the twist to it...if Apoc targetted one of Masterded, Crychon, Destiny or Myself, we'd become a third mafia group. And I always thought that was the reason town was winning...but in the progress forgot about Thanos. Props to DJ for that one though...

Still, I'd like to get to whole write-up...especially DJ's rise from the grave. It should be good.

It's good to see a mafia win again. E-Ville...should have been a mafia/cult win (apparantly). Forum Wars...great! And I think for a very long time town had this one won, except for....

Imarevenant
05-25-2008, 04:54 PM
I think I've said I'll I an about The Phoenix Force and Jean Grey roles. Was really hoping to see the rise of Dark Phoenix. But it just wasn't meant to be, I guess.

BTW, I felt like the Lost move, was far to similar to BIGJOSH's in Forum Wars. I thought for sure everyone would notice he was giving Abilities away, not just who the person targeted. To me gaining the abilities screams Dirty Cop. But, I guess as long as he's hunting scum too, might as well keep him around.




The day began on a strange note:

The members of the town seemed less like heroes and more like self abusing masochists!

“I saw so and so somewhere, let’s lynch him!”

“Wait people, I am scum, punish me!”

“No don’t listen to him, I am evil! Punish me :moans:”

“Hah. What a joke, I am scummy and evil and mmmm I have been such a bad, bad boy.”

The rate at which Jack Kirby was turning over in his grave threatened the very fabric of reality! Finally, a suspect became clear, and after his roleclaim had been dismissed, the town was sure they had achieved a lynch.. however.

As soon as the rope was placed around his neck, BIGJOSH’s entire demeanor changed.

“Fools! You think you petty mortals can stop one such as me! See the power of the Phoenix Force first hand, and tremble in fear!”

The gallows then exploded in a fiery blaze. Fortunately everyone around was able to dodge the flying debris.

But that was just the beginning. The Phoenix Force, in the Guise of Jean Grey, hovered into the air.

Before she could strike, more heroes joined the fray. Even villains, under various guises, who knew that their only chance of survival was to remove this creature at all costs, also attacked the Phoenix.

Eventually, after hours and hours of combat, the combined forces of the town proved barely sufficient to the challenge, and the Phoenix Force fled the Earth once more. Leaving in its wake a comatose Jean Grey, and a severely damaged Central Park.


BIGJOSH is dead! He Was The Phoenix Force Individually Aligned Blood-Thirsty Celestial Being


BIGJOSH

You are an indestructible, immortal, manifestation of the prime universal force of life. You are one of the oldest and most feared cosmic entities in the entire universe. You however, yearn to once again experience the elation that only comes with human emotion. Particularly the thrill that comes along with ending another human’s life! You’ve felt it before in the young telepathic whose linked to you, and now, you’ve come to this city on a quest to once again possess Jean Grey as your avatar.

You are The Phoenix Force Individually Aligned Blood-Thirsty Celestial Being

Each Night you will search for Jean Grey by PMing the name of another person in the game. Upon finding Jean Grey further instructions will be sent to you.



You are non-town aligned and thus will come up non-town when investigated. You win when everyone else in the game is dead.

Imarevenant
05-25-2008, 04:58 PM
And the town cried out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJ_86fqX5k


And the Mods have answered,


starting now, djthefunkchris has returned to the game.

The confusion on when this was supposed to occur, happened because the way the revivication worked. Outlaw could have revived DJ at any point in the game. During the middle of a phase or whatever. He sent in instructions to use the revivication along with the nightly PM's for The Titans.
he meant for it to happen at the end of the night but we read it differently.

djthefunkchris
05-25-2008, 06:05 PM
Personally, I would have talked to me, and had me come in at some point during the day phase (and go all out on Slim/Nevermore), which is what I really wanted badly anyways.

Cannot say how happy I was that Slim was not in Thanos/Outlaw's group. I wasn't sure that Thanos could only kill Gem Holder's, especially with the "Bamf" going on right beside me (making me think I was the wrong target).

Imarevenant
05-25-2008, 07:01 PM
djthefunkchris

You Are Matt Murdock: Titan Alligned Born Again Zombie!

It seemed like you had just grown used to the cold embrace of death when he, who loves death like no other, used the power of the Gem Stones to bring you back to do his bidding.

Unfortunately, you don't have access to your old powers, but you can communicate with others in the game thread, as well as being able to communicate privately with other Titan Alligned members privately. You may also vote on any and all lynches. How you explain your return is up to you, no doubt many will have questions.

Other members of the Titan Allignment:
Thanos:theoutlaw321
Gamora:Moehunter
Blood Brother:Derek B
Blood Brother:jbergey_2005


You are Titan aligned and thus you come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the Infinity Gauntlet has been re-assembled and the Titans out-number all other players in the game.


And here is DJ's role-change PM.

Personally I thought that DJ was the perfect choice to be revived, he had been helping lead the town before he died. And with his style of throwing out 1 million theories in 1 million posts ( :p ) it wouldn't be as suspicious when he started steering the town away from outlaw and in the wrong directions.

BlueStar
05-26-2008, 01:41 AM
DJ was perfect in his role...he could continue his hunt for the red scum (not too much though).

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 02:24 AM
This was the first night phase during my vacation so this was all Antithesis



Night 6

************************************************** **

The blow from behind had nearly knocked him unconscious. He barely had time to turn and see the protruding fangs glint in the light before a kick doubled him over.

He thought briefly about trying to fly away, to create some distance, but the creature had seized him and now was squeezing the very life out of him.

Not a religious man, he was surprised to hear the sound of wings, and looking up, he thought he saw an angel.

And suddenly, he was free of the creature’s grasp.


The creature screamed in rage as it watched its prey escape with the help of another! Unfortunately for the Blood Brother, its troubles were only beginning. Derek B attempting to kill Midnightnick who was protected by Crychon

“Yes, Tell us, what sort of taste your brains have!?!”


Before it could move or respond, the black mass of evil intent was upon it. Ripping and Shredding, until only pieces were left. Arrows Killing Derek B

His long tongue trailed the ground sopping up blood when, a steel girder flew into it, knocking it into a wall.

The creature pulled itself from the debris and looked on, if not with fear, then an urgent sense of caution, towards the figure standing before it. Screaming in rage, the monster lunged, but was met by yet another girder, that was swung like a bat by an unseen force.

Battered and bloodied, the creature stood, only to fall once more. Above the monster were poised half a dozen girders, ready to pound it into the afterlife, when yet again another entered the fray.

The figure hovered with a hand outstretched, ready to end it when he saw a blur on his left. With only a nod he stopped the shurikens, and sent them back at full force at the blood drenched figure who had thrown them.

Impossibly, somehow, the shurikens were dodged. This time more were thrown, and the hovering man only laughed, until the shurikens did not slow or stop.

“What.. plastic!”


The throwing stars struck him full on in the chest. And while his armor was sufficient to stop them from causing harm, he was not prepared to battle a foe using these kinds of weapons. He turned, and flew from the room.

And Finally Slim Jim attempting to kill Arrows, who himself was protected by I Effin Rule
************************************************** ***

theoutlaw321 using the mind gem on Minister Whitey, and thus finding out he was Vision

He knew immediately that a servant was lost. Wasting no time he held two gems together and let the search commence.

Nothing.

For the first time, there was a flaw exposed in his dark designs!


************************************************** ****

The Aussie using his roleblock on Bluestar. Unfortunately Blue wasn't able to feed on this night anyway, so the roleblock wasn't particularly necessary.


How long had she been walking? She wasn’t sure, but there was no need for her to search out others tonight, so it would be best to find some place where she could be alone.

Unfortunately for her, one person in the town could not let her walk around freely.

The net was thrown on top of her with such force that fell under its weight.

“Gah!! What the hell is this!!”


A man walked up to her, she could only see his boots, though the odor of cigar smoke was strong.


“Sorry there young lady, we can’t have you doing what you do in the town tonight. So I am here to stop you. Also I wouldn’t struggle much if I were you, that net is coated with a special dermal agent which enters the bloodstream through contact with the skin and works to sap the strength of those it contacts. Soon you’ll be out like a little lamb, especially given how your powers work”



She had only the energy to muster the words, “you fool,”
before passing out for the rest of the night.

************************************************** **



With the dawn of a new day, the Town came out and took stock. There was a tremendous battle, but it seemed as though only a villain had perished. There was a possibility that once hidden enemies now had been exposed. Many felt it had been a great day for justice.. and yet there were some amongst the town, who had hidden the darkness in their hearts quite deeply, and were laughing at the new found opportunity.


Derek B is dead, he was Blood Brother Titan Aligned Minion of Thanos
Djthefunkchris has returned to the game.

Actions not mentioned:

MJD Tracked Minister Whitey------which suffered Reverb
Lostrelms Investigated Jbergy_2005
nZane Investigated Moe Hunter

That's all I have in my inbox, unfortunately.

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 02:29 AM
Derek B

You are an ape like alien charged with doing the bidding of your master Thanos. At this time you are joining Thanos on his quest to re-assemble the Infinity Gauntlet by retrieving the Infinity Gems.

You are a Blood Brother Titan Aligned Minion of Thanos

As a Blood Brother you will be assigned by Thanos to either protect or kill another player during the night. Be warned that if you are sent to kill a player who is not in possession of an Infinity Gem, you will fail in your attempt and be exposed as what you are to the individual you attacked.

As a Blood Brother your ties are strongly bonded to your other half. When you two are together you possess tremendous strength and durability, however, when forced apart your capabilities are severely weakened. As such, if your Blood Brother should die you will continue to lose your strength and will eventually die (3 nights later).

You can talk to the other members of your group outside of the game thread. The other members are:

<theoutlaw321> Thanos
<Moe Hunter> Blood Brother
<Jbergy 2005> Gamora



You are Titan aligned and thus you come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the Infinity Gauntlet has been re-assembled and the Titans out-number all other players in the game.


There were two options with the brothers. They could either be sent to kill someone, or they could be sent to protect someone. They both could be sent out to do the same tasks. In the case of the Blood Brothers however, they were not allowed to be sent to kill the same individual. This was designed that way for balance issues, so that Blackbolt (who I envisioned to be sole Illuminati protector) wasn't a useless protector. The outing of Akki and MNN kind of through that balance issue out of whack though.

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 02:32 AM
This also happened while I was on vacation and while Anti was busy, hence the convienance of the concussion blast, thus making the write-up shorter lol

I do admire the fight Nevermore put up before his lynching, he tried to out as many of the Titans as he could. Unfortunately, he and Slim Jim kind of showed their alignment throughout this day, which severely hurt the AoE.



Day 7

Tonight the newly rebuilt gallows would not be short on drama.

He walked up the steps with a quiet dignity befitting one of his station. He did not weep or cry out, yet when the time came to face the crowd, his sneer was unmistakable!

“Fools! Peasants! You think you have accomplished something great? Know that even this was part of my plans, all in furtherance of the wishes of Doom! Why even know preparations are made to -

There was a gasp from the crowd as someone or something fired a concussive blast which sailed over the heads of the assembled heroes and struck Nevermore in the chest, killing him instantly.

“Who?”

“What happened?”

While the crowd did not panic, there was an undertone of shock at what they had just witnessed.

Was it part of someone else’s evil plans? Was it revenge? Was it a convenient plot device to describe a lynching in a short amount of time while someone else asked to use the Mod’s computer?

Who knows, all we can say for certain is that

Nevermore is Dead! He Was Victor Von Doom (AKA Doctor Doom) Leader of the Alliance of Evil

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 02:41 AM
Nevermore

You’ve fought them all, and since the days of the Secret Wars they’ve always come out on top. This time however, you are pulling no punches and have opted to form an Alliance of Evil. You have gathered four other supervillains and with their help are determined to bring an end to the heroes once and for all.

You are Victor Von Doom (AKA Doctor Doom) Leader of the Alliance of Evil

Being the leader of any alliance has choices however, and as the leader, you must choose who to kill and which member of the alliance will be performing the kill. These decisions must be made each night via PM; if you fail to make this choice a target and hitman will be chosen for you at random. Along with that, you as Doctor Doom have your own capabilities as well. Each night, if you are not performing the night kill for your alliance, you will put a Doombot in your place, if attacked there is a chance that the Doombot will be destroyed rather than you. Along with this, you also have the choice to use something that came into your possession with the death of Ironman. You are in possession of the Reality Gem and thus have the one-shot ability to change the alliance of another player during the night.

You can talk to the members of The Alliance of Evil outside of the thread. The other members are:

<Slim Jim> Magneto
<Foolinc> Mephisto
<TJROH> Apocalypse
<Lostrelms> Kang the Conqueror



As the Leader of the Alliance of Evil you come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when the number of members in the Alliance of Evil out-number all other players in the game.

When I created the roles I always felt bad for Doom. He had so much against him, The Town, Thanos, and Apocalypse all wanted him dead.

His Doombot would have been successful on mainly Townie night kills. Only Thanos' group and Phoenix could kill him at night. Blackbolt, the Nullifier, Venom, would have hit the Bot instead.

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 02:57 AM
And this is the writeup I did from the Hotel Lobby :D

I endured many a dirty look from the desk clerk I'll tell ya. Hope you are all happy :p



Night 7


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theoutlaw321 retrieving the Reality Gem from Nevermore's body

Once again he found himself at the gallows. Watching as his destruction swayed in the breeze. Fools, all of them. he would bring nothingness to this planet and none would stand in his way.

He stood in front of one, of which, he had at least a modicum of respect for. At least you knew the value of true power he thought to himself, before searching the body. He held up his prize with delight knowing that he was yet another step closer to complete chaos.

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Arrows killing Slim Jim

The Nightmare was focused, knew what it had to do. "If we can't beat them, then we have no choice but to join them, he thought to himself."

He found his target at home, plotting perhaps, however after tonight it was a guarantee that his plans would not see fruition. The nightmare snuck in through the window, and crept up on his prey, when suddenly the one he was stalking stopped and turned to face him.

"Now what do you think you're doing", the man asked while waving his hand.

The Nightmare laughed at Slim Jim.

"We don't have any metal on us!!!

Now, let us remove that silly little helmet.

It's time to taste your brains!"


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theoutlaw321 using the mind gem on

He was not yet done this night. There was still work to do. He gazed into the blue gem knowing that there was 1 yet to be found.

Tonight there would only come failure in that regard however.

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Midnightnick
From the onset of this disaster he had been at the forefront trying to lead this town to overcome it's attackers. And although mistakes had been made, he held a key in ensuring the town's ultimate survival.

And that's why just like every other night, he would have some protection on this one as well.

Moe Hunter comign to kill Midnightnick who is then saved by Crychon
The creature came, he knew who he was after and what he wanted. He tore down the door, and headed straight for the man, but suddenly was knocked off balance by an unseen force. The other man, looked over the creature, making the decision to grab the one he'd come to protect and get him out of harms way.

They flew, through the window, as they had once before landing in central park.

"Stay here, I'll go see if I can put a stop to that creature once and for all"

As the protector spread his wings and flew away; another stepped out of the shadows of the surrounding trees, grinning the entire time.

Jbergy_2005 killing Midnightnick
Midnightnick didn't even have time to react, as the knife slowly entered his back.

The attacker searched the victim as he fell to the floor basking in the orange glow. The Time Gem

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Bluestar draining theoutlaw321

She had a purpose, knew just who she was searching for on this night. It was time to feed and this feeding would make a difference she thought. She found her prey, sitting, alone.

Cautiously she crept up to the victim, careful not to make a sound. Never noticing the danger from behind it was too late; she made her move, and jumped her prey. She could feel the energy flow through her, her hunger subsided, she left, hoping that her actions would bring at least some answers.

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theoutlaw321 has been left in an emaciated state and can not participate in the following day and night phase.

Slim Jim is dead. He was Eric Lehnsherr (AKA Magneto) Alliance of Evil Aligned Master of Magnetism

Midnightnick is dead. He was Namor Town Aligned Lord of the Seven Seas

Actions Not Mentioned:

nZane Investigating Minister Whitey
Mjdgoldeneye Tracking Outlaw
I Effn Rule Protecting Crychon
THEDEMONSEED Protecting DJ


The million dollar question: Why did MJD get the result that Outlaw did nothing. RNG strikes again. I decided that if the tracker were to ever track someone that targeted two people (Thanos, Nightcrawler, Doom) that they would only track for one of the actions. So, when he tracked Outlaw the RNG decided it would be the Mind Gem action that was targeted.

Unfortunately that action gets no result as Thanos would use the gem at his home, and the tracker would have no where to actually track.

If the other action had won the RNG battle. MJD would have recieved the result that Outlaw was out doing something, but he could not determine the target. Incriminating enough, especially with Outlaws claim. That probably would have led to a lynch.

Funnily enough, MJD still wanted to lynch Outlaw despite his result.

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 03:02 AM
Slim Jim

You know what it is like to be persecuted for nothing more than the way you were born. With your teen years spent in Auschwitz, you know the amount of hatred human beings can house in their own hearts. Seeing the same hatred aimed at mutants, such as yourself, has made it your life’s goal to elevate Homo Superiors to their rightful place above normal humans. Every attempt at doing so has been thwarted by others however, so when an offer was made to clear these individuals from your path you couldn't refuse.

You are Eric Lehnsherr (AKA Magneto) Alliance of Evil Aligned Master of Magnetism

As the leader of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, you’ve always had a certain influence over others and that influence is going to payoff here. Each day you can choose to change the vote of another player by PMing the name of the players vote being changed and the player you wish their vote to go on. That’s not all you can do however. Along with controlling the voting patterns of others you are also in control of magnetism and because of this you are invulnerable to any and all things metal.

You can talk to the members of The Alliance of Evil outside of the thread. The other members are:

<Nevermore> Victor Von Doom (Leader)
<Foolinc> Mephisto
<TJROH> Apocalypse
<Lostrelms> Kang the Conqueror



You are Alliance of Evil Aligned and thus come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the number of members in the Alliance of Evil out-number all other players in the game.

Magneto was the Mafia politician, I also made him with no night ability, thinking he'd be the hitman of the group; and by and large that's how he was used.

The second part of his PM, the invulnerability to all things metal was a hint, that Wolverine (the PGO) could still be killed by him. Figured in most games the PGO would eventually out himself and act as town leader. This was a balance to that, although the AoE weren't explicitly told that.

Magneto also had the secondary effect of being able to disarm Captain America's shield, thus making Cap useless the following night. This would take effect if Cap was ever protecting someone Magneto went to kill.

Imarevenant
05-26-2008, 03:06 AM
Midnightnick

You rule over 75% of the Earth. As somebody, some would call Marvel’s First Mutant, you are capable of some amazing feats. You can live underwater or on land, have enhanced strength, reflexes, and healing capabilities. And somehow you can fly!

You are Namor Town Aligned Lord of the Seven Seas

Being royalty your words carry a lot of weight. However, because humans ignore and often times abuse the oceans of this planet, you are not always listened to. Therefore each day your vote will have a 50% chance of not counting at all or a 50% chance of counting for 2 votes.

That’s not the end of your influence however, you also possess the one-time ability to either negate a lynching or to hammer a lynch down regardless of vote count. To use this ability send in a PM indicating your intentions during the day phase in which you wish to use it. (In the case of negating a lynch, you will be required to PM us with your intentions in the time in which a lynch is achieved and the writeup is posted. Tricky timing, I know.)

As the ruler of Atlantis you posses much power and as such you have become a member of The Illuminati. You and your fellow Illuminati are charged with the protection of the Infinity Gems. You and your group have vowed not to use the incredible power these Gems possess and as such the Time Gem in your custody grants you no special power. However, the recent events have shown that there are some that wish to harness the great power of the Gems to use for their own purposes. With two members of the Illuminati already dead it is up to the rest of you to avenge their deaths and protect the Gems.

You may talk to the remaining members of the Illuminati outside of the game thread. They are:

<Akki> Mr. Fantastic
<THEDEMONSEED> Black Bolt
<Gonvick> Dr. Strange



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when those responsible for the deaths of your fellow Illuminati members and all other threats to the town have been eliminated

Midnight had kind of a crapshoot of an ability as from one day to the next he became extremely useful or not useful at all.

The negating of a lynching was an ability I thought would come in handy if one of the Illuminati ever got themselves into trouble, but needed to stay silent about who they were. Unfortunately the timing of using something like this is very tricky.

The hammer down ability had to be used on someone with at least 1 vote on them however. Which really was easy enough to get around by placing a vote yourself and then using the ability. Although that came with the risk of exposure.

BlueStar
05-26-2008, 03:47 AM
Slim Jim



Magneto was the Mafia politician, I also made him with no night ability, thinking he'd be the hitman of the group; and by and large that's how he was used.

The second part of his PM, the invulnerability to all things metal was a hint, that Wolverine (the PGO) could still be killed by him. Figured in most games the PGO would eventually out himself and act as town leader. This was a balance to that, although the AoE weren't explicitly told that.

Magneto also had the secondary effect of being able to disarm Captain America's shield, thus making Cap useless the following night. This would take effect if Cap was ever protecting someone Magneto went to kill.

Funny, that's exactly the same property I gave him in my Dutch X-Men mafia game.

I think this is a good solution for an all-powerful PGO...give him one or 2 enemies (or friends) who can hurt him/

Destiny
05-26-2008, 12:12 PM
Ah, good job for me that Slim Jim never really established his powers then.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Once again they gathered in Central Park, but this time it was different. This time they had direction.

One whom everyone trusted came forward:

"Moe Hunter is not Town Aligned."

The mob began to gain steam, they grabbed Moe, ready to send him swaying in the breeze like so many others.

Until another who had led the town in the past decided to speak up.

"I do not trust this creature among us " he said, pointing his finger at another.

"He'll turn on us as soon as it suits his interests, he's said so himself."

Back and forth they argued.

Both Suspects, they knew, were scum.

But which is the lesser of the two evils?

Finally a consensus was made. The town made a pact with a Nightmare, and cornered a beast. He fought the town as they came but, the numbers were too much to overcome.

Subdued, they dragged the creature to the gallows and confirmed what most had already suspected.



Moe Hunter is dead. He was Blood Brother Titan Aligned Minion of Thanos




Was this the lesser of two evils? Would their pact with the Nightmare pay off? Only time would tell.

Moe was slated to die at the end of Night 9 anyhow, so it wasn't a huge blow for The Titans, although they probably would have liked to see Moe and Jbergy able to doubleteam Blackbolt. Unfortunately MJD and nZane were all over him the night before.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 11:23 AM
Moe Hunter

You are an ape like alien charged with doing the bidding of your master Thanos. At this time you are joining Thanos on his quest to re-assemble the Infinity Gauntlet by retrieving the Infinity Gems.

You are a Blood Brother Titan Aligned Minion of Thanos

As a Blood Brother you will be assigned by Thanos to either protect or kill another player during the night. Be warned that if you are sent to kill a player who is not in possession of an Infinity Gem, you will fail in your attempt and be exposed as what you are to the individual you attacked.

As a Blood Brother your ties are strongly bonded to your other half. When you two are together you possess tremendous strength and durability, however, when forced apart the your capabilities are severely weakened. As such, if your Blood Brother should die you will continue to lose your strength and will eventually die (3 nights later).

You can talk to the other members of your group outside of the game thread. The other members are:

<theoutlaw321> Thanos
<Derek B> Blood Brother
<Jbergy 2005> Gamora



You are Titan aligned and thus you come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the Infinity Gauntlet has been re-assembled and the Titans out-number all other players in the game.

Moe seemed to be a very valuable asset for the Titans, in that he knows the comics probably better than anyone else on these boards, so, it was almost a gaurantee that they would have the most believable role-claims.

I thought the Cloak & Dagger role-claim was great; and even better was the fact that he got away with it for a day or two without having to have JBergy or Derek jump in on it and align themselves with him as well.

The Drax role-claim, he cooked up for Outlaw was perfect as well. Maybe only Adam Warlock would have been better, but then you'd risk Warlock actually being in the game with Thanos in it and all.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 11:31 AM
I thought for sure the outcome of this night would see the death of Outlaw and Thanos. TDS's assumption of not being able to protect scum and past investigation results saved him though.



Night 8


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Lostrelms attacking Wallbanger

Central Park

He was alone now, but still willing to fight. He had followed his target to the middle of central park, watching her every move. Her associations with those; those, rodents, perplexed him, but, it didn't matter. In a few short minutes her and her little pals would be all but a memory.

He cracked his knuckles, and from his fingertips let loose with the concussive blasts.

He was slightly off target, but the force knocked the girl to the ground all the same, and in an instant he was on top of her, knife in hand.

"You know this really isn't my weapon of choice, but, I've grown quite fond of hearing my victims scream"

The attacker raised the knife high in the air, when suddenly he felt something tugging at his boot. He looked back and it was one of those pests, attempting to gnaw through his armor. The Attacker swatted the nuisance away, and turned back only to see that he was surrounded. "Surrounded by those rodents!" he thought. Hundreds of them swarmed the attacker, gnawing, scratching, biting at the armor, until the attacker was engulfed in brown fur.

Not one to give up, he began thrashing about, sending masses of squirrels to and fro. He had cleared himself of the pests and once again readied himself to finish the deed. And again he was delayed by the "rodents" as one landed on his shoulder prepared to bite its way through the armor if it had to.

That attacker let out a sigh and rolled his eyes, as the girl screamed out for her friend:

"Monkey Joe NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

But it was too late, with just a flex of his bicep a surge of electricty was sent through the little critter, stopping its heart instantly. The attacker laughed, shaking the glorified rodent off his shoulder. He studied the girl, cracked his knuckles, ready to finish what he set out to do.

But, yet again, a squirrel descended on the man. This time landing on the attackers mask, the squirrel attacked the eyes, gnawing and scratching through the slits in the mask. The attacker frantically clawed at his own face, desperately trying to shake the wild rodent loose. The attacker fell to the ground, when suddenly the squirrel released it's grasp and scurried back to the girl. The attacker stood, now unable to see out of one eye, he proclaimed:

"It's not worth it! Fine! You want to play with these pests, be my guest, I have more important matters to attend to"

With that the girl rushed to her fallen friend, hoping for the best. Upon seeing him though, she wept, knowing there was nothing she could do to bring her pal back.

"At least I still have you, right, Tippy-Toe. Together we can avenge our friends death"

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I Effin Rule Accidently Attacking nZane and thus ending the use of nZane's Spidey Sense.

He had a job to do.

"A Job?"

Oh no.

"You're damn right, oh no. Do you have any idea where I was sent this time?"

Well I think he sent you with intentio....

"Whatever!


Do you know where I was sent tonight?"

What did you do.

"What did I do? What did I do? I get there, and there he is, this freak. Crawling all over the place, on the walls, on the ceiling, whatever.

Freak.

Don't even get me started on that stupid little song either."

You killed him didn't you.

"No, not this time"

Really?

"Well.

......

He freaks me out ok."

You really killed..........

"I tried, alright. I kept shooting, I think I unloaded 4 full clips trying to take him out. But no. He just kept on dodging. Not one shot hit the mark.

Freak.

Finally I gave up, told him to go on his way, doing whatever it is he does."

So he's fine, then?

"Yeah, what do I have to do, spell it out for you, he's fine. Just make sure you don't send me to anymore freaks alright!"

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Arrows having his kill attempt rebounded on him by Minister Whitey

He had played along this far, but eventually he'd have to turn on them all. Would tonight be the night? No. Tonight he'd continue to play ball. Perhaps that was his ultimate undoing.

The Nightmare watched as the one the town told him to take care of went about his business. He saw the man, or what looked like a man, walk about his home, unaware of him lurking in the darnkess.

The Nightmare snuck into the house, and made his move. His prey quickly engullfed by the blackness, the Nightmare grinned.

However.

Something was wrong. The Nightmare could feel it, burning, heat, like fire ripping through his very being. His prey was not so helpless after all.

"Wait, what are you doing to us!!!!"

"I can feel your energy, fueled by such hatred. It's time you felt it too"

Arrows stood no chance as blasts of energy emmanated from his would be prey, tearing him to pieces.

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Crychon attempting to protect THEDEMONSEED, however, he instead destroyed The Awesome Android. THe Awesome Android was given to TDS by Akki earlier to provide protection. The android would protect against 1 kill, but unfortunatley had the downside of getting destroyed if TDS was targeted for any other reason.

He soared, high above the city, with on single purpose in mind. To keep the town safe from those whom wished to harm it.

He knew just who needed him this night, or so he thought.

He found his target, out and about, doing what, he could not say. It didn't matter, he had his purpose and tonight he'd carry his target to safety.

Diving, he went to swoop up his target, but at the last minute something got in the way. A man? Perhaps, shaped like a man to say the least.

With no time to slow down or move out of the way, he smashed into the object, both man and machine were sent flying several hundred yards away. Battered and bruised he examined the shattered hulks of metal strewn about.

"Well, what on earth is this"

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theoutlaw321 may once again participate in the game thread.

Arrows is dead. He was Eddie Brock (AKA Venom) Individually Aligned Vengeful Symbiote

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 11:49 AM
Arrows:

You thought you were over the hatred. You’d done everything you could think of to get away from the one that caused this anger in you. You even went so far as to move all the way across the country to get away from him. To The Golden Gate City, is where you went. Became a Lethal Protector, one who would look out for the unfortunate and desolate. But it wasn’t enough and that same old hate has crept its way back. This time however, everyone is going to pay.

You are Eddie Brock (AKA Venom) Individually Aligned Vengeful Symbiote

Although your ultimate goal is kill everyone, you wouldn't be very effective if you stood out in the crowd. That's why you have the ability to use your symbiote to it's full potential. On various nights you can choose to use your symbiote's ability to change your appearance to that of a run of the mill townie. Those that investigate you will come away with the result that you are in fact town aligned.

However, you must attempt a night kill at least once in every 3 night phases. For example through nights 1-3 you must attempt at least one night kill, through nights 4-6 you must also attempt at least one kill. You can choose to kill every night if you so desire, or you can choose to kill night 1 and then night 6 as well. The choice is yours. If for any reason you do not attempt a kill in any night phase grouping you will lose the power to blend in with the townies and will be forced to kill every night.


You are non-town aligned and thus will come up non-town when investigated. You win, when everyone else in the game is dead.

This role was designed to let the SK actually be an SK, who can blend in and hide amongst the town. It think giving him the choice not to kill and appearing townie worked great for that purpose. And the kill requirement, meant he couldn't just hide out all the way until the endgame.

I'm still not sure what to think about how Arrows played the SK role. I thought the first few days he was doing great, but, I just couldn't believe he outed himself, ensuring he'd get lynched eventually.

I mean, I understand that he thought there were too many bulletproof people in the game for him to win. But then really nobody was completely bulletproof, and the only person he needed someone else to kill was Destiny, who was vulnerable to the Red Mafia (via Magneto), Thanos, and Phoenix. Did he know this, no, but maybe a little trust that we wouldn't make it completely impossible for a role to win was needed. Yeah, we probably made it so too much luck was involved to win as Venom, I'll admit to that, still was possible though.

There is one change I'd make for any Serial Killer now though (Unless they'll have powers like Phoenix could have attained, or how the bomber role was set up in Forum Wars). And that is to change the win condition from kill everyone to Kill All Townies. I think that will give the SK a much better shot at winning these games in the future. Either let him work with the rest of the scum, or make him powerful enough to stand a chance when it's 1 vs 35.

I think the win condition change would have helped out Venom a lot in this game, and I'm sorry I didn't think of it sooner.

Once again I would like to point out I thought Arrows played the role great in the early going. He was by far the only scum who was making an effort to appear town aligned, most likely due to the fact that at any given night he could in fact make himself come up town aligned.

Just wish he hadn't felt the need to out himself, I understand why he did so, just think the game could have been much more interesting had he not done so.

Oh, and the bragging up and down about killing TJ was a ballsy move, lol. Thought you all should have lynched him then and there, personally.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 11:58 AM
The day Thanos used the Time Gem to save Jbergy. I'd much rather forget that day myself.

Really, Minister Whitey should have been lynched this day. I made the mistake of finding and allowing a replacement. A mistake you won't see me make again, with the game in the latter stages.

The only reason I continued looking for a replacement for MW, was that I thought it was unfair to the town in general to lose a valuable number because of inactivity. I then realized it was far more unfair to pull the rug out from The Titans when they were pushing to get that inactive lynched this late in the game.

So when I started having second thoughts, and asked Sprink to hold off in jumping in the thread, all I could do was shake my head when I saw that he was posting. It was no fault of Sprinkle's though, and I completely understand why he jumped the gun on it, really.



Day 9

Central Park

The town was quite lucky the night before. They’d entered the morning with only a questionably trusted “hit-man” lost, and new information.

They had a small list of who could be their biggest threat, and began the questioning. Unfortunately, once the interrogations were over, there was still doubt on whom to believe.

With no answer to the question, they focused on one. One who was already shown not to be aligned with the town.

The votes came, and eventually they had enough to hang their suspect.

They dragged their suspect to the gallows, ready to do the deed, when suddenly an Orange Glow engulfed the park, the city. Everything began moving quickly, clouds flew by in an instant, the day grew darker, until finally, it was once again night.

Dumbfounded by the events, the town scurried along to their homes, searching for an answer.


It is now Night 9

Arrows
05-27-2008, 12:02 PM
Arrows:



This role was designed to let the SK actually be an SK, who can blend in and hide amongst the town. It think giving him the choice not to kill and appearing townie worked great for that purpose. And the kill requirement, meant he couldn't just hide out all the way until the endgame.

I'm still not sure what to think about how Arrows played the SK role. I thought the first few days he was doing great, but, I just couldn't believe he outed himself, ensuring he'd get lynched eventually.

I mean, I understand that he thought there were too many bulletproof people in the game for him to win. But then really nobody was completely bulletproof, and the only person he needed someone else to kill was Destiny, who was vulnerable to the Red Mafia (via Magneto), Thanos, and Phoenix. Did he know this, no, but maybe a little trust that we wouldn't make it completely impossible for a role to win was needed. Yeah, we probably made it so too much luck was involved to win as Venom, I'll admit to that, still was possible though.

There is one change I'd make for any Serial Killer now though (Unless they'll have powers like Phoenix could have attained, or how the bomber role was set up in Forum Wars). And that is to change the win condition from kill everyone to Kill All Townies. I think that will give the SK a much better shot at winning these games in the future. Either let him work with the rest of the scum, or make him powerful enough to stand a chance when it's 1 vs 35.

I think the win condition change would have helped out Venom a lot in this game, and I'm sorry I didn't think of it sooner.

Once again I would like to point out I thought Arrows played the role great in the early going. He was by far the only scum who was making an effort to appear town aligned, most likely due to the fact that at any given night he could in fact make himself come up town aligned.

Just wish he hadn't felt the need to out himself, I understand why he did so, just think the game could have been much more interesting had he not done so.

Oh, and the bragging up and down about killing TJ was a ballsy move, lol. Thought you all should have lynched him then and there, personally.

I actually did know who the final gem holder was, and had every intention to turn on the town after taking out MW, and taking that final gem for myself. Had that worked, my revealing would've been well worth it, and it could've given me a 50/50 shot at winning.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:08 PM
This is the night Thanos finally collected all the gems, and the night where the RNG got a ton of usage.

I explained before, but, I'll do so again.

Because most of the actions taking place this night seemed to intersect each other, I determined the order of events using an RNG. It was the RNG that determined who would come visit TDS first, and it was the RNG that decided Thanos would retrieve the Gem from his hitman before being attacked by the last of the Red Mafia.


Night 9



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Jbergy_2005 killing THEDEMONSEED, and retrieving the last Infinity Gem for The Titans.

He stood alone. The last of them. Possibly the last hope for the town. Since night one he had done everything he could to prevent the other from collecting the Gems and constructing the gauntlet. And at every turn suspicion was thrown his way. Tonight more than any other the town would distrust him on account of his eery silence.

Fitting.

He wasn't out this night as he had been nights past. For reasons, no one knew for sure.

Nevertheless, it wouldn't have saved him anyway.

Pre-occupied THEDEMONSEED never even noticed his assassin creep up from behind him. Well. Not until he felt the sting of the blade slice through his throat.

The assassin looked down at the once fearful foe, and smiled.

"Guess that little voice of yours won't be a problem then?"

The assassin reached down and grabbed the Gem. Knowing that her task was fulfilled.

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Bluestar draining THEDEMONSEED

She was hungry again. And just as she had the last few times she needed to feed, she would at least try to expose a threat with her nighttime feasts.

She knew where she would find her target, but when she got there, she saw something she never expected. Someone had gotten there first and left him laying in a pool of his own blood.

"You're still alive? Not for long I don't think.

You aren't who I thought you were, but you will do. I need to feed!"

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Gamora delivering the Gem to Thanos

She hurried back to her master, knowing the rewards would be plentiful. He took the gem from her and placed it in the gauntlet; instantly feeling the power surge through his body. Death, Destruction, his Dark Designs were all now just a fingertip away.

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I Effin Rule targeting THEDEMONSEED. IER's % dictated he'd be killing this night, thus, why he finishes TDS off.

There was one he did not trust more than any other. And although he knew it was a gamble to focus his attention on him this night, he felt he was doing what was right.

He finally located the one he was after and was instantly saddened as he recognized the man on site. Recognized, just barely. Blood was everywhere. The man's throat had been slit clean through. And something or someone had drained him, this definitely wasn't how he knew him to be.

He turned to leave, when he heard the shallow breathing. How was that possible? There would be no way he'd ever fully recover, he thought to himself. No, there was only one option.

The shot could be heard over several city blocks.

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Lostrelms coming a night too late to kill Outlaw321.

He vowed, to continue the fight. He and his allies had been driven back by "them" once again. Tonight he found his target at home. Intimidating as he looked, he steeled his resolve and readied himself to attack. He cracked his fingers and sent the concussion blasts soaring through the air. Direct hit. Up until now those blasts had done considerable damage to it's intended target. But this was no ordinary target.

He was hit with a blast to the chest, but he shrugged it off and located the origin of the blasts. He'd seen this one before a threat to some, yes, but not to him. He walked up to the heavily armored man. He gave a smile before striking the man in the chest, and driving him clean through the wall, with a force the attacker had undoubtedly never felt before.

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Thanos killing MJDGoldeneye, who was being protected by Crychon.

Thanos kills could not be protected against however, which is why Crychon failed in his last two protection attempts.

The power still surged within him as he stalked about the city looking for a victim. He saw them flying, high above the city, one carrying the other. A bolt of energy seared the sky as he it shot from his hands striking them, sending them both crashing back to earth, landing in the middle of times square.

A crowd had gathered, it wasn't everyday you saw an angel fall from the sky. The thud from his large footsteps grew nearer, as he approached. Most bystanders had never even known of his existence but on sight they too afforded him the fear that one of his reputation commanded.

He walked up to the fallen heroes, first to the winged one, smiling. He grabbed him and drew him near "No, you aren't the one I'm looking for" he sneered.
He watched the other, trying to fly away. So small, most probably didn't know mjdgoldeneye was here. He grabbed her and held her in the palm of his hand.

"You know how we get rid of your kind don't you" he jeered with a thunderous clap.

He opened his palm and looked down at would be the first of many victims and was lost in thought.

This whole bottom part was something Anti wrote for Thanos collecting all the gems, before the game ever started. I liked it, a lot, so I tacked it on at the end of Thanos first kill, as a forewarning to what was in store.

It seemed so long ago, when he first put his plan into motion. Not that time held much meaning for one such as he. Rather, it was his incessant desire that marked the days, the hours, and the bitter seconds as he waited for this moment. The fruition of his dark designs, converged with his love… no, his lust for Death.

He smiled then, knowing the last piece was in place, and a shockwave of fear spread out from him and engulfed everyone on the Planet Earth. Whether God or Mortal, Man or Mutant, the sheer weight of oppression, the inescapable feelings of impending doom, forced the billions of creatures on this tiny planet to bow their heads.

Some wept openly, some prayed for forgiveness. A valiant few swore to fight on, in spite of the fate that awaited them. Regardless, all of them sensed, with an understanding that mere words could not relay, that the time of judgment was at hand.





THEDEMONSEED is dead. He was Blackagar Boltagon (AKA Black Bolt) Town Aligned King of the Inhuman’s

mjdgoldeneye is dead. He was Janet Van Dyne (AKA The Wasp) Town Aligned Fly on the Wall

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:21 PM
I actually did know who the final gem holder was, and had every intention to turn on the town after taking out MW, and taking that final gem for myself. Had that worked, my revealing would've been well worth it, and it could've given me a 50/50 shot at winning.

Yeah, I knew you did. Was actually waiting for you to turn on the town, and thought that would be the night as well.

Sorry, if I come off harsh on the way you played, that's not my intent. Just giving my opinion from the mod chair is all, which in all honesty is much different, as I actually know that Hulk, and Spidey could be killed by you and I actually know that the Red Mafia could take out the one role you couldn't possibly kill.

That's what I mean by the trust in the mod thing. From a player perspective yeah, it looks like it's impossible. But I think we all need to trust that our mods of these games, haven't put in any impossible to win roles. I've noticed that since the graveyard forums started up, there is so much more open criticism of games and mods, before all the roles and intricicies of the game are revealed.

That said, if after the game a mod reveals everything and it still can be said something was way off, then go all out and criticize. That's just my opinion on it, for what it's worth.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:26 PM
For the record, I thought Lost played his hand the best out of anyone from the AoE. Along with Arrows and DJ (after his resurrection) he seemed to be one of the only who actually tried to pass himself off as Town-Aligned.

I thought the Bishop claim, was good as well. It just got done in by some major wikepedia detectives lol

And the write-up for this, that went along with Doom Lynching write-up was one of my favorites from Anti as well.



Throughout the day, the conversation was varied and heated.

“I think this is important…”


“We cannot rush this!”

“It has gotta be him, I know it!”

“Hey, who touched my ass?!?!”


Back and forth it went, until finally, the man who claimed to be Bishop was brought forth.

“We have some problems with your story, pal.”

“You fools, that isn’t the only problem you have!”

Suddenly there was a flash, and LostRelms stood revealed in the familiar garb of

KANG The Conqueror!

He laughed maniacally as the townsfolk rushed him. Suddenly, in his hands appeared some kind of blaster type device and a control module. Without taking aim, he fired off a concussive blast towards the townsfolk. Fortunately, in their line of work, heroes are quite adept at dodging those sorts of attacks, and they soon closed the distance yet again.

Not to be deterred, Kang quickly began punching buttons on the module, and suddenly he was enveloped within a bright light. However, just before the temporal jump could be completed, someone grabbed Kang’s hand, crushing the module in the process. Kang only had time to aim the blaster at the figure and muttered an angry curse when suddenly, he disappeared….


Will Kang make his escape?
How will the town react?


Join us in the next exciting issue of Marvel Mafia, entitled “Assassin In Time!”


ASSASSIN IN TIME!


Day 10, Continued

Meanwhile... a few days ago...


Dr. Doom walked up the steps with a quiet dignity befitting one of his station. He did not weep or cry out, yet when the time came to face the crowd, his sneer was unmistakable!

“Fools! Peasants! You think you have accomplished something great? Know that even this was part of my plans, all in furtherance of the wishes of Doom! Why even now preparations are made to -

The Temporal jump completed just as Kang squeezed the trigger on the blaster. The shot went off in the distance, where he heard a commotion. Kang looked up in horror to see...

There was a gasp from the crowd as someone or something fired a concussive blast which sailed over the heads of the assembled heroes and struck Nevermore in the chest, killing him instantly.

“Who?”

“What happened?”

While the crowd did not panic, there was an undertone of shock at what they had just witnessed.



At the sight of his dead comrade, KANG screamed in rage! So angry was he, he did not realize that the time traveling module in his hand had been crushed and thus was malfunctioning!

In addition to not thinking clearly, he also knew that the blast which killed Dr. Doom would be drawing attention, so he used his module without delay, which was a deadly mistake, as it short circuited right as he made the temporal jump to escape once more, trapping Kang in the flux of time forever!

And while he was not lynched per se, the town slept easier knowing that they would never see such a deadly adversary again!


LostRelms is lost (no pun intended) in time. He was Nathaniel Richards (AKA Kang the Conquerer) Alliance of Evil Aligned Eternal Time-Traveler

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:32 PM
Lostrelms:

You were once just an ordinary man born in one of earth’s alternate futures. However, that all changed once you found the device that would let you travel through time. Originally intrigued by a sense of adventure and exploration you became obsessed with a need to conquer and ransack all of time. Under the guises of various rulers such as Rama-Tut you have built up strongholds and kingdoms through all of eternity.

You are Nathaniel Richards (AKA Kang the Conquerer) Alliance of Evil Aligned Eternal Time-Traveler

Hellbent on conquering every era of earth’s existence has proved fruitful, however, there is one time period in which you are continually thwarted. Because of the abundance of super-heroes, you have failed in every attempt to conquer present day earth; time after time, whether it be the Avengers or the Fantastic 4 you are always defeated. This time however, with the help of the rest of the alliance you feel Conquest is right at your feet.

In order to aid the Alliance you will use your abilities to travel through time and see what actions an individual took the night before. To do this, each night, PM the name of the person you’d like to investigate.

You can talk to the members of The Alliance of Evil outside of the thread. The other members are:

<Nevermore> Victor Von Doom (Leader)
<Slim Jim> Magneto
<Foolinc> Mephisto
<TJROH> Apocalypse



You are Alliance of Evil Aligned and thus come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the number of members in the Alliance of Evil out-number all other players in the game

This was a the final AoE member I created for the game, after Anti and I realized that Thanos needed his own mafia.

I had a lot of fun writing the Kang stuff in the write-ups. He's got so many powers at his disposal, but it was fun to make him go down to basics with a knife.

I thought he might be used as the the hitman for Night 1 as his ability wouldn't come into use yet, and the opportunity to cause a little confusion by switching hitmen for night 1 and 2 could only help, plans changed for the AoE on account of someone running into the thread with the "Hi, I'm Scum" sign. :p

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:38 PM
Poor Crychon once again finding his protection useless against Thanos. And then getting to see the person he tried to protect get his heart ripped out and dropped in front of his face :p

BTW, I know at least 1 thought I wrote IER getting his heart ripped out as a result of the in thread arguing between IER and dj, but that wasn't the case. I'm sure IER knows I wouldn't take a shot at him like that, and in talking to him he didn't take it that way.

That death write-up came about only because it allowed me to show Thanos taunting the town and the protector that had failed against him for a second time.

As for the targets of the 2 Titan kills. It was a great plan. IER and Mr T, had by far been leaders of the town in the daytime discussions, and by taking them out the game slowed way down during day phases. So much so that it felt like the Night Phases were almost as talkative.

This allowed dj and Outlaw to really get to pushing for a Sprinkle lynching while keeping Jbergy safe.



Night 10


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Jbergy killing Mr T

She had played her part in this situation days before, ensuring that at least on one night there would be no time for her allies to die. With that done her role was complete, and her greatest use was too help think things through and sort out this mess.

Perhaps she had done the latter too well, or perhaps the sting of the blade cutting through her skin was the settling of a grudge caused by her notable action days before.

In either case, the result was the same, Mr T Jobs To Me, would be found in the morning, the blade still jutting from her back.

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Thanos killing I Effin Rule, who was being protected by Crychon.

The being stalked through the city, searching for his next victim. He knew just who he was looking for but couldn't locate him. One such as he would never give up, however. And the persistance paid off as he spotted the one he was searching for soaring through the air, on the back of another.

"You again?" he thought to himself. He laughed as the man flew high above the city, carrying an ally, just as he did the night before. With a smirk the Being held out his hands, and with a blast of energy the two fell back down to earth.

Battered and bruised from the fall, the two men heard the sickening thud, of his footsteps as he approached. They knew, all too well, what ill intentions were destined for them.

The Being grabed both men by the throat bringing the winged one in close.

"I could, kill you now. Or perhaps I'll let you live, knowing you failed in protecting your precious friends. So that, till your dying days, you can think back and remember the screams and agony your allies faced, while you layed there, helpless, spineless, unable to do anything to stop me.

Yes.

I think, I quite like that"

He tossed the winged one to the floor with one hand while plunging the other into the chest of i effin rule. The Titan watched, as the mercenary writhed in pain. He let the mercenary endure the agony, smiling as he imagined the pain the individual was going through while his body frantically attempted to repair itself.

Finally he had found enjoyment in something, but it had to end. As all things worth enjoying do.

The Titan wretched the mercenaries heart from his chest, feeling it in his hand, watching as it beat once or twice more before stopping. He turned to the winged one, dropping the others heart inches from his face.



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Mr T Jobs To Me is dead. He was Ororo Munroe (AKA Storm) town Aligned Weather Girl

i effin rule is dead. He was Wade Wilson (AKA Deadpool) Town Aligned Wise-Cracking Hero For Hire

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:42 PM
Mr T Jobs To Me:

You are royalty in your home continent of Africa, and although you have much work to do there, you were the headmistress of Xaviers School for the Gifted and would like to avenge his death.

You are Ororo Munroe (AKA Storm) town Aligned Weather Girl

With your Alpha level abilities you have the chance to become one of the greatest allies to the town. At any point during the game you have the one-shot ability to cut a night phase short. (What does that have to do with controlling the weather you ask? Ummm, shut up! It’s a comic book based game, just go with it, Sheesh!)

This power is not without its drawbacks however, as anyone who has gotten their night abilities in before you ended it will be successful in their attempts. Thus, the earlier in the night phase that the ability is used the less chance for someone to sneak something in.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

I thought T had played his role and ability perfectly. The Shape auto-lynching could have been a huge mistake, instead, T did his thing, thus adverting the scum from taking an even greater advantage of the mislynch.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:45 PM
I Effin Rule:

You are a product of the Weapon X program. You are a mercenary. You have an enhanced healing factor and are possessed with incredible reflexes, agility, and stamina. No, you are not Wolverine.

You are Wade Wilson (AKA Deadpool) Town Aligned Wise-Cracking Hero For Hire

You are a true wildcard in the superhero relm. Because of this you have the potential to be one of the towns biggest assets or you could decimate the town through no fault of your own. Each night you need to PM the name of someone you wish to protect. You must choose and you may not protect yourself. However, because you are a mercenary you have the tendency to have a bit of an itchy trigger finger. Therefore each night if you do not successfully protect someone the chances that you will instead kill your target increases by 25%.

Choose wisely.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

This was Anti's creation with a slight twist that IER is not going to want to hear :p

When Anti created the role he made it so that whenever IER would be successful in protecting someone, they'd earn a Night Kill if they chose to use it.

I removed that, kept the percentage stuff, and made it so there was no kill reward, just more and more a chance that IER could end up killing someone he meant to protect, :p

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:55 PM
And the No Lynch, that pretty much sealed the town's fate. This is the day Outlaw and DJ went pretty much all out on Sprinkle, who couldn't get his story straight and somehow kept making himself look scummy despite the fact that Vision fit the write-ups much better.

Sprinkle did do all he could before hand though. I think he was the first on this day phase to really take it to Outlaw.

The town couldn't have lynched Outlaw anyway, however, if they had lynched Jbergy, the game wouldn't have been won by the Titans. With the 2/3rds + 1 lynch requirement on Thanos, there was only 1 situation that could cause trouble for him and the was 8 remaining players (7 town vs Thanos) in a day phase.

Because Jbergy could kill, the dreaded number 8, would occur in the night instead of day, The Titans just needed one extra kill which they got the following night.



It was yet another rancorous day wherein nearly everything was challenged and contested. Rather than focus on the negative aspects of such a contentious debate, we turn our attention to a rose bush located off a main pathway leading to the gallows in Central park.

It is there, as the wind picks up, that a solitary fly stops to rest its weary wings. Even a creature as miniscule as it detects the sense of dread permeating the air. Alas, it has more immediate concerns, as it has unknowingly landed on a spider’s web.

It struggles to free itself as the voices carry over from the gallows. Yet, the more it fights, the more it becomes stuck within the web. Then, of course, comes the first tremor. The spider has made its appearance and is deftly traversing the web’s myriad cross sections of strands all to seize its prey.

The spider bids no welcome. It is not there to mock or judge, only to do what spiders do best… which is to kill and eat. Unfortunately for the spider, a strong gust at that moment broke the web’s support, and it tumbled down to the ground trapped inside its own machinations. It’s prey then managed to free itself and escape.

The question to the remaining townspeople is this, who among them is the spider, and who is the fly, and has the trap been sprung, or will they escape?

As it stands now, at the end of day 11, no one was lynched.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 12:59 PM
The final two kills needed to clinch victory for The Titans; Anti did the honors with this final Night Write-up


Night 11

Jbergy killing Crychon

Since the moment Professor X had telepathically alerted them all to the threat, Angel had been by the town’s side, putting his body on the line to help the town win. Undeterred by recent events, he planned to do the same thing tonight.

Unfortunately for him, others had their own designs, and they would brook no more interference from the likes of him.

The blade glinted in the moonlight as the assassin held it in the perfect position to signal him from below. Angel knew that it must be a trap, but he could not let this pass. The person below him might very well have been involved somehow with Professor X’s death. They should not go unpunished!

Angel wasted no time in closing the distance between he and the figure on the ground. He was perhaps no more than twenty yards away when figure turned the sword blade slightly, using the moonlight to illuminate her face. It was then that Angel saw the most dangerous woman in the Universe smile…

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Bluestar getting killed by theoutlaw321

She’d show them, the doubters and the haters, she would show them all that not only could she be trusted, but that she was worthy. Tonight, someone would become well acquainted with her hunger!

She had one particular tasty morsel in mind. And she had spied them earlier, turning down an alley. It was in that alley, at the bottom of the fire escape, that she heard the screams coming from the rooftop above. Something truly horrendous was going on up there, and she must stop it!

She had just planted her foot on the iron railing of the fire escape when she felt the hand clamp down on her skull. The pain was so sharp she nearly passed out.

“I see you hope to interfere, little girl. Know that I forbid this. If this recent crime were not enough justify it, your mere existence serves as an insult to one such as I. Tonight, punishment will be given for your transgressions. Tonight, you die.”


In that moment, Famine’s heart should have stopped, however, given her unique abilities, she somehow managed to survive by drawing energy from the hand clamped on her skull. The figure behind her surmised the situation instantly.

He chuckled. “What a nuisance you truly are. Here, little one, try taking your sustenance from this…”

Suddenly there was a decrease of pressure on her cranium. She had enough time to turn before the gauntlet touched her forehead.

There was a white light, then only a lingering red mist that wafted in the air… the final remains of her head exploding.



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With the first light of dawn, the town was able investigate the source of the screams they had heard the night before. After some searching they located the headless corpse of an emaciated young woman. Even worse, overlooking that sickening scene was a rooftop which held the remains of a fallen hero. His wings and other appendages had been expertly severed and put on display.

Now the survivors studied each other intently. Some searching for signs of guilt, others looking for the courage to continue on!


Crychon is dead, he was Warren Worthington III (AKA Angel) Town Aligned Avenging Angel
Bluestar is dead, he was Autumn Rolfson (AKA Famine) Town Aligned Misguided Anorexic Teen


It is now Day 12! Further instructions will follow from Imarevenant

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:06 PM
Crychon:

As a founding member of the X-Men, you have taken personal interest in bringing Professor Xavier’s killer to justice. And you have both the means and abilities to do so.

You are Warren Worthington III (AKA Angel) Town Aligned Avenging Angel

As Angel, you use your gift of flight to protect others and carry them to safety. Each night you can choose to protect another player by PMing their name.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

Crychon diligently protected Midnightnick, every single night until one to many killers were sent MNN's way.

Because MNN did not have a night ability, it never became an issue that Crychon in fact was a roleblocker as well as protector. Even the people Crychon protected after MNN was dead, didn't see the effects of his protection, because Cry broke the Awesome Android when trying to protect TDS, and MJD and IER died by Thanos the nights he protected them.

Had Apocalypse found Crychon, he would have given the AoA it's own kill, which would have carried over once he took control of the AoE, basically giving that group two kills a night, and he'd become

War Age of Apocalypse Aligned Horseman of the Apocalypse

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:11 PM
Bluestar:

You are a misguided young woman with a peculiar ability. Unfortunately, you can disintegrate organic matter, which continually leads to you disintegrating food before you actually eat it. This has caused you to become quite anorexic and has caused your parents who’ve spoiled you rotten to become upset that they may have to take you to the hospital and have the fact that you’re a mutant revealed to the world. What would their friends think! This has led you to harvest some very bitter feelings toward them and people in general, which has caused you to be quite unpopular amongst the people that know you.

You are Autumn Rolfson (AKA Famine) Town Aligned Misguided Anorexic Teen

As you’ve grown older, a secondary mutation has developed, one that has become quite useful. Through mere touch, you are able to feed off of ones energy and leave them in an emaciated state. This ability also leaves you quite hungry for more, so in order to survive you must feast on a target once every other night. To do so, PM the name of your target, who will then become incapacitated for that night and the following day phase.



Because of your general demeanor and frightening abilities, you will come up as non-town upon investigation. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

Funny how both of Apocalypses recruits died on the same night.

I thought Blue played a very good game, especially given the circumstances. He was a miller and if he ever role-claimed his actual character I'm not sure anyone would have believed him to be town aligned.

The bolded is a mistake in the PM. It played out in the thread that the person attacked by Blue was incapacitated for the Next Night and Day Phase every time, so it wasn't an issue.

If Blue would have been recruited by Apoc, he'd have been able to feed every night and would have changed to:

Famine Age of Apocalypse Aligned Horseman of the Apocalypse

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:16 PM
And Finally:


Central Park


It seemed like a lifetime ago that he set his plans into motion. Death, destruction. It all paled to the nothingness he was prepared to bring. He found them easily enough, today ,like every other day since the insanity began, they paid their pilgrimige to his gloomy garden.
Today however, he’d finally reveal himself.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Imarevenant/Thanos.jpg


Theoutlaw321 lifted the Gauntlet in victory, as the heroes before him cowered. His designs had succeeded, there would be no stopping him now. Some gathered around to witness the event, others merely wept in the saftey of their own homes.

In a blink, day turned to night as a dark cloud engulfed the globe, the only light being that which emanated from the gauntlet “he” held in his hand. A light laughter filled the air as two among the town stepped forward bowing to their Masterlord. Jbergy_2005 and djthefunkchris turned on the crowd with devilish grins, knowing full well that they had chosen the right side.

Thanos, the Eternal Titan smiled; as the gauntlet began to glow. Fire erupted the surrounding city spreading as far as the eye could see. It took mere minutes for the city to be raized to the ground. As people , buildings, everything burned, he smiled. Not one of happiness, or victory, but of content. Content that the deconstruction of the galaxy might finally begin.

Congratulation to The Titans, on a well played game

Theoutlaw321
Moe Hunter
Derek B
Jbergy_2005

and

djthefunkchris

are your winners.

Personally, I thought the deck was stacked against the Titans, they really relied on the other mafia, and the SK's to take out protectors and investigators for them.

This is why the Gems were really only meant for them. They had the chore of collecting them and until they did, were kind of gimped, thus, collecting them had to be worthwhile.

I'm still amazed Outlaw wasn't lynched by day 3, everyone knew he was Thanos, just that the town-aligned result from investigation and the RNG kept saving him.

I'll post the rest of the roles now.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:20 PM
The Humanoid Typhoon/Wallbanger:

You have bested Doctor Doom, M.O.D.O.K., Thanos, Terrax, Deadpool and Mandarin in battle. You could possibly be one of the most successful super-heroes to come around in quite some time. However nobody takes you seriously. Perhaps that's becasue

You are Doreen Green (AKA Squirrel Girl) Town Aligned Underated Rodent Befriender

You possess the uncanny ability to talk to squirrels. Most would scoff at such an ability, but that attitude has allowed you to stand toe to toe with some seriously powerful advasaries. In this fight, you will have the aid of your two most trusted Squirrel pals; Monkey Joe and Tippy Toe. These friends of yours will each protect you from a lynch or an attempt on your life. Be warned however, that if you were to lose both of your squirrel pals, you may lose the will to go on.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

This was all Anti's creation. However, once he brought the idea of Squirrel Girl to the forefront, I loved it. Yeah, a bit off the wall, but her character had already stood toe-to-toe with both Dons, and the town Protector/Killer Deadpool.

Because of this, we did think she'd become either a town leader, or someone who wasn't believed; as just like the character it was a little too much to believe, right?

Unfortunately, THT really wasn't interested in leading the town from the getgo.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:28 PM
Masterded:

You are your everyday run of the mill atomic physicist. Mild mannered in nature you used to live an ordinary life. That was until you chose to save the life of a young man over your own. Since that day, since you were exposed to the Gamma rays, your life has changed. On the run now, you attempt to live off the grid. But somehow, someway, trouble always finds you.

You are Bruce Banner (AKA The Hulk) Town Aligned Gamma Exposed Hot Head

You are doing your best to maintain your composure and make it through this ordeal safely. However, there are those on both sides who are unaware of the repercussions of upsetting you. Believe me no matter which side they come from they aren’t going to like you when you’re angry.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

So Hulk was my spin on a bomb type character. However, I wanted him to play like the comic character, so I designed a system that made him vulnerable after a good Hulk Out. Which is when Bruce usually got taken by surprise.

Thus, there was no single trigger to make masterded Hulk Out. Instead there was a point system.

50 points were needed to Hulk Out.


5 points were added for every vote put on Masterded.
10 points were added for any investigations or protection
15 points were added for any role-blocking or an attempt to steal from the Hulk
20 points were added for Famine trying to drain Hulk
35 points were added for any kill attempts on Hulk


When Bluestar attempted to drain masterded. There were 35 points on him already as a result of votes. After the Hulk out, Masterded went back to 0. The only other thing that happened to him after that, was a single vote put on by Mr T.

Thus masterded could have been killed from night 3 on.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:32 PM
nZane:

With Great Power comes Great Responsibility. You more than any other lives by that creed.

You are Peter Parker (AKA Spider-Man) Town Aligned Wallcrawler

As your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man you are blessed with a Spider-Sense that will render you invulnerable to most attacks on one occasion.

You are also a skilled photographer. Each night you can choose to take pictures of another in order to find any incriminating evidence. Upon developing the photos you will learn the alignment of the individual in question. To do so PM the name of the individual you wish to investigate.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

I laughed when nZane came back asking if I really put a bulletproof investigator in the game.

Unfortunately for him, the word Most, was misleading. Phoenix, Thanos, Venom, Doom, Blackbolt, and Apocalypse would all kill him. Leaving nZane safe 1 time, from Magneto, Kang, Mephisto, War, and other townie kills.

Spidey, was the only true investigator in the game; meaning he's the only one that ever got alignment, aside from Nick Fury's one time thing. The other investigators were a Tracker, Watcher, and Forensic Investigator.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:35 PM
Destiny:

You’re whole life has been one filled with Loss. You lost your parents at a young age. You lost the one you loved, Rose, to not only another man, but in death as well. You lost your humanity for a time. Lost your memory. Lost another loved one in Silver Fox. Lost the love of yet another, Jean, to a man who squandered it away. And now, this new threat has come, and taken one of the few people in your life that has served as a parental figure, Professor Charles Xavier. The losses have become too much and have sent you into a rage.

You are James “Logan” Howlett (AKA Wolverine) Town Aligned Adamantium Imbued Weapon X

The death of Professor X has finally sent your abused psyche over the edge. You are currently experiencing a bezerk rage and anyone who targets you will feel the sting of your adamantium claws plunging into their chest.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

His Bezerk Rage could have been cured by Mr Fantastics sedative. Good thing Mr T was not Reed Richards or else it would have been :p

Other than that, he was a main threat to Venom and the town really. Thanos, Phoenix and Magneto (The Red Mafia hitman) would all kill him, thus, weakening his PGO status.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:38 PM
Supermareo:

You’ve known persecution. Upon your birth you’ve always been physically “different” than normal humans. As a child you were chased by angry pitchfork wielding mobs because of your devilish appearance. And even now, as a member of the X-Men there are still those that are taken aback by the mere sight of you. Perhaps that’s why you were drawn to the cloth. Who else preaches acceptance more than the Church? Faith is what has enabled you to continue your heroic activities and this faith will effect your decisions even in the face of the town’s biggest threats.

You are Kurt Wagner (AKA Nightcrawler) Town Aligned Saintly Teleporter

Because of your deep rooted faith and your devotion to the cloth, you feel morally opposed to lynching anyone in the name of the town. These are troubling times however, and the town and you must do what must be done, but, be warned, participating in the lynching of an innocent may just be more than you can handle emotionally and there is no telling what you may do as a result.

Aside from your devotion to your faith and morals, you are a gifted individual and the town will certainly need your gift throughout this situation. As a teleporter you have a unique opportunity to teleport others to different locations. Each night you can choose to teleport and switch two people. These individuals will suffer the fate intended for each other as a result. This ability can not be used on yourself and is extremely taxing physically, thus you can only use the ability on 3 occasions throughout the game. To use this ability PM the names of the individuals you wish to switch.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated


This is the Busdriver, with a limit of only 3 uses, since Busdriving can cause so much havoc, I wanted to limit it a bit.

Also limiting Nightcrawler was the fact he could only vote on scum. Had he helped on a mis-lynch he would have lost his ability to vote at all, and the use of his 3 busdriving opportunities over the distraught he felt over aiding in the death of an innocent.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:39 PM
The Aussie:

You run the Strategic Hazard, Intervention, Espionage Logistics Directorate (S.H.I.E.L.D.). A Security Agency on the frontlines, fighting terrorism and extraterrestrial menaces throughout the world.

You are Nick Fury Town Aligned Howling Commando

As an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. you have various abilities at your disposal. Each night you can choose to investigate, role-block, or protect another player by PMing the name of the player you wish to target and specifying which ability you are using. These abilities are good for a one-time use however, so choose wisely.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

Basic Jack Of All Trades, but without the night kill ability, as I felt the town had enough already.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:42 PM
Minister Whitey/Sprinklefurball 2.0

You are an Android, one originally created by Ultron to destroy The Avengers. Admiring of the Avengers ability to overcome adversity however, you betrayed your programmer and now fight along the side of those you were created to destroy.

You are Victor Shade (AKA Vision) Town Aligned Avenging Android

As Vision you have the power to manipulate energy and through this manipulation you can not be role-blocked. You also have a 50% chance of rebounding back any ability targeted against you.



You are town aligned and thus will come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated

As you can see we liked our wildcard roles. IER was a wildcard in being able to kill or protect. While, Vision was a wildcard in that he could gamble by attempting to attract scum his way with a 50/50 shot of killing them.

The other gamble was that if he successfully rebounded investigations he'd probably come off scummy (which he did; although the scrum rhymes didn't help)

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:44 PM
Jbergy_2005

You were taken and raised by Thanos at a young age. As a result you are extremely loyal to him and plan to help his quest to re-assemble the Infinity Gauntlet.

You are Gamora Titan Aligned Apprentice of Thanos

At this time you have no special abilities, other than to serve as Thanos’ most trusted advisor. However, should a member of your group fall, you will be right there to take their place and fulfill any duties your group may need. Likewise if Thanos should die, you as his apprentice would take up the charge and continue the quest for the Infinity Gems.

You can talk to the other members of your group outside of the game thread. The other members are:

<theoutlaw321> Thanos
<Derek B> Blood Brother
<Moe Hunter> Blood Brother



You are Titan aligned and thus you come up non-town aligned when investigated. You win when the Infinity Gauntlet has been re-assembled and the Titans out-number all other players in the game.

Gamora was the last line of defense for Thanos, as she would take over hitman and protection duties should they fall. Her usefulness really came about when the Gauntlet was finally constructed however, as her extra night kill became a focal point of the game.

Imarevenant
05-27-2008, 01:46 PM
And Finally;


theoutlaw321:

You are a Nihilist; you don’t believe that there is a purpose or objective meaning to life. As such you’ve rejected concepts of morality or proper values, in favor of engaging in behaviors that benefit you regardless of their moral merit. And what’s most important to you is power. Power to rule over all of Titan, and power to rule over earth and its inhabitants.

You are Thanos Titan Aligned Masterlord

In order to obtain the power you seek you have begun a quest to re-assemble the Infinity Gauntlet. In order to do so, you must first find the Infinity Gems; which will grant you considerable powers. The re-construction of the Infinity Gauntlet is a daunting task; yet your recent disposal of Professor Charles Xavier has put you in the possession of one Gem already. With your retrieval of the Mind Gem, you will be able to search out during the night to find the other Gem protectors. To do so PM the name of another player you wish to investigate.

Once you have found a Gem protector you may send out a Blood Brother to kill the individual and retrieve the Gem. Be warned however, as if a Blood Brother is sent to kill someone who is not in possession of a Gem, they will fail in their attempt and be exposed as what they are to the individual they attacked.

You may also assign a Blood Brother to protect another player each night. To do so, PM the name of the individual they will be protecting and which Blood Brother you are assigning the task.

If you suspect that a Gem protector has died to some other fate, you will have the opportunity to scavange that indivdiuals remains during the night to find an Infinity Gem, however, if you choose to do so you will not be able to use the RoyalBlue"]Mind Gem[/COLOR] that night.

You can talk to your minions outside of the thread. The other members are:

<Derek B> Blood Brother
<Moe Hunter> Blood Brother
<Jbergy 2005> Gamora


As the Leader of the Titans you come up town-aligned when investigated. You win when the Infinity Gauntlet has been re-assembled and the Titans out-number all other players in the game.


Thanos and his group were designed to be the main mafia of this game, and keeping the gems from him was also designed to be the main objective for the town. Overall I think the town put most of the emphasis in keeping the Gems away from Thanos, so I'm glad it worked out that way.

Destiny
05-27-2008, 02:40 PM
Awesome. So what exactly would happen if I went into bezerk mode? I would randomly kill every night?

Moe Hunter
05-27-2008, 07:36 PM
I actually did know who the final gem holder was, and had every intention to turn on the town after taking out MW, and taking that final gem for myself. Had that worked, my revealing would've been well worth it, and it could've given me a 50/50 shot at winning.

Well, if you had killed Black Bolt, the lynch would be on you unless you could convince the others that you got the gem (which we knew you wouldn't). Either way, we'd scavange it from his corpse that night and if you weren't lynched already, you would be the next day.

And if you did somehow get the gem, you'd be fair game for us to target the next night anyway :P

Arrows
05-27-2008, 07:38 PM
Well, if you had killed Black Bolt, the lynch would be on you unless you could convince the others that you got the gem (which we knew you wouldn't). Either way, we'd scavange it from his corpse that night and if you weren't lynched already, you would be the next day.

And if you did somehow get the gem, you'd be fair game for us to target the next night anyway :P

Without every gem, your kills were blockable. I take the gem, the protectors HAVE to protect me, to stop you guys from getting the final gem.

djthefunkchris
05-27-2008, 08:59 PM
Without every gem, your kills were blockable. I take the gem, the protectors HAVE to protect me, to stop you guys from getting the final gem.

And to answer you question in the game, about if tonight was the night...

I wanted to say so badly "It's now or never"... but knew you would have understood.... TOO MUCH.

I seen that coming a mile away... If you would have got a gem, the town would have had to protect you, even though you were an SK.

I honestly could "See" how you could have won that game. Imagine, if you got the gem, and everyone knew it (or even if they didn't, you just tell them).

You would be free to kill them at night, and they would have to protect you untill Thanos was gone... How long would it take for them to give up on lynching Thanos and going to JB? How long before they figured out I was part of Thanos group (for sure)... how many nights would people die.

Glad you played along that night, to be honest.

Mr T Jobs To Me
05-27-2008, 09:30 PM
And to answer you question in the game, about if tonight was the night...

I wanted to say so badly "It's now or never"... but knew you would have understood.... TOO MUCH.

I seen that coming a mile away... If you would have got a gem, the town would have had to protect you, even though you were an SK.

I honestly could "See" how you could have won that game. Imagine, if you got the gem, and everyone knew it (or even if they didn't, you just tell them).

You would be free to kill them at night, and they would have to protect you untill Thanos was gone... How long would it take for them to give up on lynching Thanos and going to JB? How long before they figured out I was part of Thanos group (for sure)... how many nights would people die.

Glad you played along that night, to be honest.

I saw this too. However, my concern was Thanos' win condition being simply to get all the gems. I was surprised the Titans had 3 members left, to be honest. If the post-me town had even gone for the sure thing and lynched jbergey, which should have probably been the course of action failing a sure Thanos lynch, your 2/3 plus 1 ratio would have been near impossible to attain with only 1 kill, even if they mislynched sprinkle. The town could have done a lot to win even after outlaw got all those gems. I think after i effin and myself were gone, there really were no townies there to take the reins. It was brutal watching that last day, because you three scum played it masterfully.

djthefunkchris
05-28-2008, 12:12 AM
I saw this too. However, my concern was Thanos' win condition being simply to get all the gems. I was surprised the Titans had 3 members left, to be honest. If the post-me town had even gone for the sure thing and lynched jbergey, which should have probably been the course of action failing a sure Thanos lynch, your 2/3 plus 1 ratio would have been near impossible to attain with only 1 kill, even if they mislynched sprinkle. The town could have done a lot to win even after outlaw got all those gems. I think after i effin and myself were gone, there really were no townies there to take the reins. It was brutal watching that last day, because you three scum played it masterfully.

Think you missed the big point about what I was saying....

Even with the JB lynch, if Arrows was able to get the gem.... He would have a kill as well.

Maybe now you see what I'm saying? Either way, the town would have been screwed... but if Arrows had gone after TDS that last night (successfully), and was able to get the gem, or at least "Bluff" that he had it, the town would have to lynch JB, protect arrows... Thanos and Arrows both having a kill, giving the same result the next phase. With Arrows in the picture, it would have created a huge change in foiling Thanos, but also in Arrows actually maybe winning the whole thing at the end.

There were not many townie's left as it was.

djthefunkchris
05-28-2008, 12:14 AM
Of course... "WE" would have only supported an Arrows or Sprinkle lynch, so.... That would have been at least of some consequence, but that's besides the point.

Arrows
05-28-2008, 12:15 AM
Think you missed the big point about what I was saying....

Even with the JB lynch, if Arrows was able to get the gem.... He would have a kill as well.

Maybe now you see what I'm saying? Either way, the town would have been screwed... but if Arrows had gone after TDS that last night (successfully), and was able to get the gem, or at least "Bluff" that he had it, the town would have to lynch JB, protect arrows... Thanos and Arrows both having a kill, giving the same result the next phase. With Arrows in the picture, it would have created a huge change in foiling Thanos, but also in Arrows actually maybe winning the whole thing at the end.

There were not many townie's left as it was.

I would've had to have brought it down to me, Thanos, and Crych, from what I can tell. Crych to keep me alive, and then he'd have to decide which scum would win.

djthefunkchris
05-28-2008, 12:53 AM
I would've had to have brought it down to me, Thanos, and Crych, from what I can tell. Crych to keep me alive, and then he'd have to decide which scum would win.

/nod... Bassically, WE would have been your only hope at that point. You would have had to kill off townie's (as well as myself and JB, if we managed to NOT get lynched).

With holding the Gem... WE would only have one target (the gem holder) that we could kill. Could not target anyone that didn't have a gem. So protecting you would have been essential for the town, as well as for your own survival.

It would have been interesting for sure, had you been able to aquire a gem. I believe you had a chance there... as Thanos wasn't immune till after he completed the gauntlet.

theoutlaw321
05-28-2008, 01:13 AM
The gem would have been on TDS's body I believe. So the point is moot. Searched his body the next night acquired the gem. You would have had to hang me. Crychon was worthless protecting you. With the guantlet, nothing would have stopped me.

theoutlaw321
05-28-2008, 01:32 AM
Just thought of something else. The night that Arrows targetted MW was also the night that Crychon protected TDS. And he had the asteroid. Two layers of protection. He wouldn't have gotten the kill. ;)

He would have violated the orders of the town and would have been hung the following day.

Mr T Jobs To Me
05-28-2008, 01:33 AM
Think you missed the big point about what I was saying....

Even with the JB lynch, if Arrows was able to get the gem.... He would have a kill as well.

Maybe now you see what I'm saying? Either way, the town would have been screwed... but if Arrows had gone after TDS that last night (successfully), and was able to get the gem, or at least "Bluff" that he had it, the town would have to lynch JB, protect arrows... Thanos and Arrows both having a kill, giving the same result the next phase. With Arrows in the picture, it would have created a huge change in foiling Thanos, but also in Arrows actually maybe winning the whole thing at the end.

There were not many townie's left as it was.

You're missing my point. Your win was based on the fact that it would take a 2/3 + 1 majority to lynch Thanos. There were 7 townies left at the end but 1 vote could be manipulated.

However, now that I think about it, this game never should have been declared over unless that ability was for all you Titans. Theoretically, the town could still have lynched j_bergey, only suffered 1 kill that night, lynched you, again suffered 1 kill, and had the majority on outlaw at 5-to-1. So even though we've already lost, there were possibilities for us to win.

theoutlaw321
05-28-2008, 01:34 AM
Just thought of something else. The night that Arrows targetted MW was also the night that Crychon protected TDS. And he had the asteroid. Two layers of protection. He wouldn't have gotten the kill. ;)

He would have violated the orders of the town and would have been hung the following day.

We were actually hoping for this. Another day with someone else as the lynch candidate.

theoutlaw321
05-28-2008, 01:34 AM
You're missing my point. Your win was based on the fact that it would take a 2/3 + 1 majority to lynch Thanos. There were 7 townies left at the end but 1 vote could be manipulated.

However, now that I think about it, this game never should have been declared over unless that ability was for all you Titans. Theoretically, the town could still have lynched j_bergey, only suffered 1 kill that night, lynched you, again suffered 1 kill, and had the majority on outlaw at 5-to-1. So even though we've already lost, there were possibilities for us to win.

Wrong.

Mr T Jobs To Me
05-28-2008, 01:35 AM
Wrong.

How so?

theoutlaw321
05-28-2008, 01:40 AM
10 left. Would have taken 9 to lynch me.

You lynch jb.
I kill one.

8 left.
7 to lynch me. Even if you figured out that dj was scum and lynched him.
I kill one.

6 left. 6 to lynch me.
no lynch.
I kill one.

5 left. 5 to lynch me.
no lynch
I kill one.

4 left. 5 to lynch me.
I kill one.

3 left. 4 to lynch me.
I kill one.

2 left. 3 to lynch me.
I kill the remaining town aligned player to win.

It would have only drug the game out.

Mr T Jobs To Me
05-28-2008, 01:43 AM
[QUOTE=theoutlaw321;429162]10 left. Would have taken 9 to lynch me.

You lynch jb.
I kill one.

8 left.
7 to lynch me. Even if you figured out that dj was scum and lynched him.
I kill one.

6 left. 5 to lynch me. (2/3 = 4/6+1 = 5/6)
Lynch. Town wins.

Entirely Possible.