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Derek B
02-04-2011, 01:36 PM
I removed a few character names I had suspicions of since I don't want to accidentally reveal townie things, or even jsut endanger them... here's a messy look at my notes for those who care.


Night 0
+ Bowser thinking about Axis Of Eviltown
+ Militaristic group, probably main scum
+ Koopalings eating dinner
+ Celebrations from previous awesome team (Bowser, Ganondorf, Dr Robotnik, Vaati, Riku)
+ Scum group kill Koopalings (Bomb, various bullet/gun kills, someone jumping on someone, weighty leader squashes one.)
+ Scum guards kill remaining Koopaling
+ an MMORPG person kills Astil?
Night 1 (144)
+ man recruited or redirected… (might not be a recruitment, might be someone getting a bodyguard?)
+ MJD (Fox McCloud) lifted up and thrown to death, seems kinda indy
+ Two men talk, one has already used their ability to someone else. A 4th is referenced as following one looking for fun (Vaati?).
+ masterded (Bowser) killed by something Vesperia related, flames
+ Derek B ambushed into silencedness
+ Antithesis (Duke Pantarei) killed by fast moving hit (Sonic?)
+ DAY PHASE SKIPPED due to Bowser death
Night 2 (181)
+ Post about day skip
+ someone listens to what someone has to say (RECRUIT or bodyguard?)
+ “Pew” stops pick up/throw killer from killing someone who had settled in
+ gonvick (Save Point) is killed by male moving blindingly fast (probably Sonic)
+ two people fighting, one seems to silence the other (possibly with a Falcon Punch as Captain Falcon/scum)
+ Jman and Zeel silenced, gonvick dead
Day 3
+ Zeel lynched (Wolf Hawkins/Syndicate Aligned)
Night 3 (311)
+ NIGHT PHASE SKIPPED due to large metal sky object and red text voice skips the night phase after about 4 hours. (could be due to Dr Robotnik, who originally had a day phase skip in VG1)
Day 4 (444)
+ No lynch, most votes on TheKenwyne
Night 4
+ male not doing anything is recruited/bodyguarded(?) by another male
+ male targets another male, but is blocked by things that look a lot like Pokemon
+ ShadowedFlames (Detective Magnotta) killed by something
+ man silences another male
+ male tries to kill male, “Pew” saves life, probably a protection

Dragonmack
02-04-2011, 01:37 PM
I'm not worried about the turns to stone guy. I know who it is, and I know they are town. Silencing TBP considering he is still very questionable seems more than enough indication of this.

And considering the lack of any leads provided by information gatherers so far this phase, I am assuming they must be afraid to out them selves for fear of following Shadowed's path of demise.

Honestly, I think attention should still be on Thekenwyne this phase, with no other substantial leads presenting themselves. With a lot of recruitments seemingly indicated in the thread, I'd be willing to bet that TKW and TBP might actually be a cult group instead of a straight mason group. They may not be aligned with the main scum group, but I still doubt they are squeeky clean vanillas just wanting to hide under a rock. Doesn't fit the characters or the game.

Dragonmack
02-04-2011, 01:37 PM
Vote: TheKenwyne

Derek B
02-04-2011, 01:38 PM
If it helps at all, the role that I have for this game isn't listed in the previous post.

It isn't? Then something I previously thought was a hint turns out not to be... which puts you back on my list of people I know nothing about. I hate everyone on that list, they all make things more difficult for me. :p

Destiny
02-04-2011, 01:38 PM
I also think that we should probably attempt to lynch TheKenwyne again today.

Arrows
02-04-2011, 01:41 PM
If it helps at all, the role that I have for this game isn't listed in the previous post.

Same

BlueStar
02-04-2011, 01:42 PM
Not listed there, but red anyway...

Hmmm...interesting lowdown though.

BlueStar
02-04-2011, 01:43 PM
I also think that we should probably attempt to lynch TheKenwyne again today.

Why? Randomness? Like I said...we need something to stick on one of the two or we go for the random lynch.

Indy's should be dealt with early or not at all.

BlueStar
02-04-2011, 01:46 PM
I'm not worried about the turns to stone guy. I know who it is, and I know they are town. Silencing TBP considering he is still very questionable seems more than enough indication of this.

And considering the lack of any leads provided by information gatherers so far this phase, I am assuming they must be afraid to out them selves for fear of following Shadowed's path of demise.

Honestly, I think attention should still be on Thekenwyne this phase, with no other substantial leads presenting themselves. With a lot of recruitments seemingly indicated in the thread, I'd be willing to bet that TKW and TBP might actually be a cult group instead of a straight mason group. They may not be aligned with the main scum group, but I still doubt they are squeeky clean vanillas just wanting to hide under a rock. Doesn't fit the characters or the game.

Are you thinking he's cult?

Dragonmack
02-04-2011, 01:47 PM
TBP is silenced, so he is effectively locked down for now. That leaves Thekenwyne as a target that can defend himself, soothing those who don't like lynching silenced targets. Either way, I think Thekenwyne needs to go down this phase if for nothing else than verifying his claim. There are no other solid leads at this point, and if he's who and what he says he is, then we know we can leave TBP for later. If he's not, and he does turn out cult or scum , or shenanigans happen, then we have our lead for the next day as well.

moon_lit_tears
02-04-2011, 01:48 PM
It isn't? Then something I previously thought was a hint turns out not to be... which puts you back on my list of people I know nothing about. I hate everyone on that list, they all make things more difficult for me. :p

hahahahahahahahahahahahah I so hope I'm on that list. :p

Dragonmack
02-04-2011, 01:49 PM
I'm not worried about the turns to stone guy. I know who it is, and I know they are town. Silencing TBP considering he is still very questionable seems more than enough indication of this.

And considering the lack of any leads provided by information gatherers so far this phase, I am assuming they must be afraid to out them selves for fear of following Shadowed's path of demise.

Honestly, I think attention should still be on Thekenwyne this phase, with no other substantial leads presenting themselves. With a lot of recruitments seemingly indicated in the thread, I'd be willing to bet that TKW and TBP might actually be a cult group instead of a straight mason group. They may not be aligned with the main scum group, but I still doubt they are squeeky clean vanillas just wanting to hide under a rock. Doesn't fit the characters or the game.

Are you thinking he's cult?

Yes, that's why I said he might be a cult group. :p

BlueStar
02-04-2011, 01:50 PM
Hey, if I was on the radar, I'd silence a fellow scum to appear off the radar...

So...

Vote: Thekenwyne

Destiny
02-04-2011, 02:00 PM
Good to see you agreeing with what appears to be the general consensus, BlueStar.

Arrows
02-04-2011, 02:09 PM
TBP is silenced, so he is effectively locked down for now. That leaves Thekenwyne as a target that can defend himself, soothing those who don't like lynching silenced targets. Either way, I think Thekenwyne needs to go down this phase if for nothing else than verifying his claim. There are no other solid leads at this point, and if he's who and what he says he is, then we know we can leave TBP for later. If he's not, and he does turn out cult or scum , or shenanigans happen, then we have our lead for the next day as well.

Makes sense.

Vote: The Kenwyne

Midnightnick
02-04-2011, 02:26 PM
Are you thinking he's cult?

That's the way I'm reading it myself.

Vote: TheKenwyne

Destiny
02-04-2011, 02:28 PM
I'll likely be online later tonight and will no doubt add my vote then, unless TheKenwyne can convince me otherwise.

moon_lit_tears
02-04-2011, 02:32 PM
Question in general.

What more do you guys want from Ken...Did he not answer questions yesterday?

We go on and on about wasting phase time blah blah blah, if you are going to lynch them do it without all the drama of trying to gather information that was given yesterday. I'm not trying to sound bitchy. I just don't think this is the right direction at this point in time.

Destiny
02-04-2011, 02:57 PM
Are you going to offer us another direction? We have very little to go on, and TheKenwyne's role doesn't logically make sense.

Prophet
02-04-2011, 03:32 PM
It is now Evilday 5. With 27 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Saturday February 5th to reach a majority

Crychon - 1 (Comradebot)

TheKenwyne - 4 (Dragonmack, Bluestar, Arrows, Midnightnick)

Destiny
02-04-2011, 03:58 PM
Vote: TheKenwyne. Upon reflection, I might as well vote now, as the activity levels of this game are disheartening.

Paws7297
02-04-2011, 04:02 PM
I'd liike to know the answer to this as well.

Paws7297
02-04-2011, 04:03 PM
I'd liike to know the answer to this as well.
MLT's Post! Dang.

Dragonmack
02-04-2011, 04:16 PM
Question in general.

What more do you guys want from Ken...Did he not answer questions yesterday?

We go on and on about wasting phase time blah blah blah, if you are going to lynch them do it without all the drama of trying to gather information that was given yesterday. I'm not trying to sound bitchy. I just don't think this is the right direction at this point in time.

MLT's Post! Dang.

At this point, I don't want anything else from him. He's already made his claim. I've already stated I am not buying it. The role smacks of being a cult to me and thus I have already gone on record as lynching him being the best option available at this time. I pick him as opposed to TBP today, since TBP is silenced and some people have expressed issue with lynching a silenced person. Thekenwyne isn't silenced, so his lynching shouldn't be an issue as he can speak.

Paws7297
02-04-2011, 04:20 PM
I believe him and Tbp... I'll keep my vote to myself... for now.

MichiganHero
02-04-2011, 04:22 PM
At this point, I don't want anything else from him. He's already made his claim. I've already stated I am not buying it. The role smacks of being a cult to me and thus I have already gone on record as lynching him being the best option available at this time. I pick him as opposed to TBP today, since TBP is silenced and some people have expressed issue with lynching a silenced person. Thekenwyne isn't silenced, so his lynching shouldn't be an issue as he can speak.


Look how that one turned out for us in this game.

Dragonmack's logic makes the most sense to me ;

Vote : TheKenwyne

Derek B
02-04-2011, 04:32 PM
At this point, I don't want anything else from him. He's already made his claim. I've already stated I am not buying it. The role smacks of being a cult to me and thus I have already gone on record as lynching him being the best option available at this time. I pick him as opposed to TBP today, since TBP is silenced and some people have expressed issue with lynching a silenced person. Thekenwyne isn't silenced, so his lynching shouldn't be an issue as he can speak.

So there is agreement that there is a cult then?

It makes me sad that people only seemed to even notice that there might be some cult recruitments going on once I mentioned it, but have clearly not read the write ups properly for themselves or commented on my analysis.

The phase has gone from "lets find information that could help" to "let's do the easiest possible thing we could do". If it wasn't possible to get a lynch on Kenwyne yesterday, why would you think it would be easier to get it today?

VOTE: The Shape

He's one of SIX PEOPLE who are skating by and doing nothing in this game. Rather than vote on someone who might actually contribute, we should be looking at the people who clearly aren't and who are doing more to hold up a lynch by not being around than anyone else is by actually talking.

When time permits I want to hear from all of the following

djthefunkchris
DWW
Jman2k3
petrija
The Rock 13
The Shape

And to be honest... there are another handful that I want to hear more from too, because they aren't doing anything either. Chasing after someone who has given something is a typical early game mistake... talkative/active players get attention and then bad things happen.... but it's the queiter ones who are skating by who are the ones who are doing the damage. And it's the quieter ones we should be looking at.

Jman2k3
02-04-2011, 05:08 PM
I'd say the first silencer is almost certainly scum... and I'd guess not in the same group as Zeel. Plausible, but most "we silence ourselves!!!" plays tend to go down N1.

The second...

I'm leaning town. I don't see their being two scum silencers, and, honestly, why on earth would scum silence Jman? So he can't inform us he's off to bed? Please.

And Crychon fires back with "SCUUUUUUUM!!!"

Sorry to prod, Crych, but I can't help but be a bush-league disturbance from time to time.

Hey!!!!! That "Off to bed" ability is deadly now.

Vote: TheKenwyne[/QUOTE]

JackalBane
02-04-2011, 05:42 PM
Vote: TheKenwyne

Boo cult.

TheKenwyne
02-04-2011, 05:50 PM
So I come back to... this? Man, some of you guys are easily led. We've gone from two indy survivors, two a cult? I wouldn't be suprised if scum had silenced TBP in the vague hope that they could lynch us as cult. What evidence do you have to suspect that we are cult? Is this just wild poking in the dark because you know that we're 'not town', despite two full claims and general helpfulness over the past few phases? If you want to know everything else, shoot, ask, I'll answer to the best of my ability. But maybe you should look at those who are so desperate to paint us as cult when they have given up so little about themselves.

praguepride
02-04-2011, 05:58 PM
When time permits I want to hear from all of the following

djthefunkchris
DWW
Jman2k3
petrija
The Rock 13
The Shape


Hey!!!!! That "Off to bed" ability is deadly now.

Vote: TheKenwyne


Does anyone else find this odd? derek_b says "hey wait, let's not waste a lynch on an indy yet, let's hear from these people:"

And then Jman2k3, who is on said list, says "hey , let's keep voting for the indy before posting that he's going to be offline for several hours (hopefully 8, you shouldn't play mafia without much sleep as that lends itself to mass claiming D1)

Back to the elephant in the room...I just don't know how I feel. If lynching them clears the plate, fine, but 6 people aren't talking, 6 people sounds like a dandy # of scum.

As for that list:

djthefunkchris - for some reason I trust him despite his absence and AFK. He's a solid enough player to KNOW that being silent this long has GOT to be attracting attention. I hate hitting AFK players because it almost always leads to sadness for town. BUT, if he's alive come end game and town doesn't have clear LOS on remaining scum, chances are he's scum.

Until then, I'll hold out hope that he's doing something for the game that is in town's favor because it just seems like a terrible play for scum to abandon the thread. While being silent is a scum tactic, being silent this long draws attention by the absence. Other players might get away with it but DJ knows he has a big bullseye on his head when he does something suspicious.

DWW - just came in. Gives an explanation of Sazz's absence. I don't want to metagame too much. Then again, D-dubs hasn't said anything other then the usual "hi" so makes me nervous.

Jman2k3 - didn't vote for Zeel but DID vote for TKW....
petrija - hasn't posted...at all?
The Rock 13 - advocated we hold off on Zeel but eventually did vote for him
The Shape - didn't vote for Zeel, didn't vote for anyone, actually...



So, upon looking that over:


Vote: Jman2k3

I can switch it over to TKW if needed, but I really want to poke Jman2k3 for some info:

Namely: What were you up to last night?


Also, Jman2k3 is the new Arrows, he is always scum. Even if his role alignment is town, he's still scummy ;)

Derek B
02-04-2011, 06:06 PM
@PP: I wouldn't hold out hope on hearing anything from Jman... communication isn't his strong point.

So I come back to... this? Man, some of you guys are easily led. We've gone from two indy survivors, two a cult? I wouldn't be suprised if scum had silenced TBP in the vague hope that they could lynch us as cult. What evidence do you have to suspect that we are cult? Is this just wild poking in the dark because you know that we're 'not town', despite two full claims and general helpfulness over the past few phases? If you want to know everything else, shoot, ask, I'll answer to the best of my ability. But maybe you should look at those who are so desperate to paint us as cult when they have given up so little about themselves.

I'm also amused at how easily everyone seems to have jumped on the cult bandwagon without commenting on my thoughts that I might have been wrong to even suggest it. I'm just going by what I saw at a quick glance in the latest write up compared with the others... and given how much people are doubting me, they picked up on the cult train pretty quickly.

I don't know if you and TBP can still talk outside the thread, but I hope you guys have been reading along. If you have any opinions to share about write ups, potential characters, suspicions of anyone and whatnot, please share them. If you do get lynched, it would be good if you could help your team-mate make progress towards his goal... and hopefully me to make progress towards mine too.

Jman2k3
02-04-2011, 06:17 PM
My character doesn't do anything. He's vanilla.

Derek B
02-04-2011, 06:25 PM
My character doesn't do anything. He's vanilla.

I have a hard time believing that.

Jman2k3
02-04-2011, 06:38 PM
I have a hard time believing that.

Why's that.

Derek B
02-04-2011, 06:46 PM
Why's that.

Because I believe Kenwyne and TBP's claims... meaning if I trust them, that your claim is highly unlikely. Or as I said before, I'd have a hard time believing it. Not to mention any reasonable player would have said this during the previous day phase when it looked like it might be the kind of information that might actually help push a lynch on someone, instead of just sitting on it.

Naturally, I may have made at least one error in there but no-one's perfect.

Jman2k3
02-04-2011, 06:48 PM
Let's just say my character is a certain person that has been mentioned a lot in the last couple of pages. ;)

JackalBane
02-04-2011, 06:53 PM
My character doesn't do anything. He's vanilla.
I don't believe you for a second.

Derek B
02-04-2011, 07:04 PM
Let's just say my character is a certain person that has been mentioned a lot in the last couple of pages. ;)

You may need to be a lot more specific than that... seems none of them have been vanilla that have been mentioned, which is what you claimed. I sense trouble afoot...

I don't believe you for a second.

... and it may come from over there.

I'm going to steal Jman's spot and say "OFF TO BED!"... I'm tired, so someone else can have the steering wheel for a bit while I refresh my brain in preparation for another day of wondering what's going to happen next.

Don't forget to read the night write ups folks... after Words and Swords I'm going to campaign on that until people start openly doing analyses of write ups again. I miss when quiet phases could be filled with people talking about write ups until someone actually uncovered a lead because someone hadn't realised they were somewhere in them. :)

moon_lit_tears
02-04-2011, 08:21 PM
Vote jman

So I just got home. This looks good to me.

Crychon
02-04-2011, 08:49 PM
Know what? This sounds like a decent path to me right now.

Vote: Jman2k3

So... You're vanilla...? Go on...

Jman2k3
02-04-2011, 09:44 PM
Know what? This sounds like a decent path to me right now.

Vote: Jman2k3

So... You're vanilla...? Go on...

I'm sure if you ask Sonic they will tell you all about me.

Paws7297
02-04-2011, 09:48 PM
Just got back from ice skating... -_- Anyone wanna guess how many times I landed on my ass?

And the Jman direction looks good to me for now.. Chage vote: Jman2k3 or vote whichever works.

Crychon
02-04-2011, 10:01 PM
I'm sure if you ask Sonic they will tell you all about me.

Kinda hard to ask him anything, he's pretty dead. lol

As is Knuckles, and Tails... That's about all I know for Sonic characters, though, admittedly, I haven't played a Sonic game since the Genesis days.

Unless of course you're referring to the drive in and hinting at being a chili dog... With tots... And a shake...

Damn, now I want Sonic. Thanks.

Jman2k3
02-04-2011, 10:12 PM
Kinda hard to ask him anything, he's pretty dead. lol

As is Knuckles, and Tails... That's about all I know for Sonic characters, though, admittedly, I haven't played a Sonic game since the Genesis days.

Unless of course you're referring to the drive in and hinting at being a chili dog... With tots... And a shake...

Damn, now I want Sonic. Thanks.

Well, I'm the Doctor of Robotics. :cool:

Had Sonic early, brown bag special rules.

praguepride
02-04-2011, 10:46 PM
hmmm... not quite the way I thought it would go, especially with all that 'nilla talk but without a counter claim it's good enough for me.


Change Vote: TheKenwyne


@derek: Ha, Jman proved you wrong. Totally worth it in my book to clear a usually scummy name off my "99.9999999% scum" list :D

Crychon
02-04-2011, 10:55 PM
Well, I'm the Doctor of Robotics. :cool:

Had Sonic early, brown bag special rules.

Well then.

Change Vote: No Vote

Prophet
02-04-2011, 11:00 PM
It is now Evilday 5. With 27 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Saturday February 5th to reach a majority

Crychon - 1 (Comradebot)

TheKenwyne - 9 (Dragonmack, Bluestar, Arrows, Midnightnick, Destiny, MichiganHero, Jman2k3, JackalBane, praguepride,)

The Shape - 1 (Derek_B)

Jman2k3 - 2 (moon_lit_tears, Paws7297)

BlueStar
02-05-2011, 02:01 AM
1 vanilla and a team of vanilla's....my vote stays for now.

TheKenwyne
02-05-2011, 04:15 AM
Um... we're not vanilla? We're MASONs. As has been mentioned, being able to talk outside the thread is an ability in itself, and one that I think we've proved yesterday. I still don't get why the town is obsessing on a push on a couple of the more vocal players - as Derek has said, look a the quiet ones, and as I mentioned, the ones who are desperate to makes us look cultish. I'll be back with any indepth analysis later, but I've had a busy couple of days and have only been able to skim read the write up/day thus far. I apologize for my tardiness. :)

Derek B
02-05-2011, 04:45 AM
I'm sure if you ask Sonic they will tell you all about me.

Before I say/do anything else... if you have used all your abilities you are NOT vanilla, you are a person who has used their abilities and now has none left. A vanilla townie is someone who starts with no abilities at all. After the number of times you've given out false/inaccurate information to people you really should be able to give accurate info back.

That is... I'm assuming you were responsible for the Night Skip on Night 3. Which given that ShadowedFlames got a result, probably should have been sent in sooner as scum could otherwise have got their abilities off before it was used.

/grumble grumble grumble

Um... we're not vanilla? We're MASONs. As has been mentioned, being able to talk outside the thread is an ability in itself, and one that I think we've proved yesterday. I still don't get why the town is obsessing on a push on a couple of the more vocal players - as Derek has said, look a the quiet ones, and as I mentioned, the ones who are desperate to makes us look cultish. I'll be back with any indepth analysis later, but I've had a busy couple of days and have only been able to skim read the write up/day thus far. I apologize for my tardiness. :)

I'm waiting on this before I do anything else. All reasonable points (especially the ones that were mine :p) but we need something soon. I wish the town was as easily led as you say, I can only imagine what this game would be like if I was running 20ish roles at once. :)

Derek B
02-05-2011, 01:26 PM
It's been almost 9 hours since the last post here and that was by me....

CHANGE VOTE: TheKenwyne

I believe what you said but it's clear that no-one is going to do anything until you hang. In the hopes of getting something done while everyone sits around doing nothing else, you're going to have to hang.

Sorry for this, it's not what I want to do.

BlueStar
02-05-2011, 01:47 PM
A two-person mason team with no abilities would be "red" aligned.

Vote stays. I am wondering where all these town investigators are though...seriously.

Dragonmack
02-05-2011, 02:06 PM
Well the one investigator who said anything got killed. But that doesn't explain why no watchers or trackers are offering up any clues. So while opinion is divided on Thekenwyne and TBP's claims, the fact is both are non town and if they are vanilla, they don't have anything to offer to help the town, and if they aren't, they have been lieing from the start, and that doesn't bode well for the town either.

Derek B
02-05-2011, 02:13 PM
Well the one investigator who said anything got killed. But that doesn't explain why no watchers or trackers are offering up any clues. So while opinion is divided on Thekenwyne and TBP's claims, the fact is both are non town and if they are vanilla, they don't have anything to offer to help the town, and if they aren't, they have been lieing from the start, and that doesn't bode well for the town either.

In a game that just had a 9 hour silence during a day phase, both Ken and TBP have an active voice and therefore a vote. Since we actually need votes to lynch scum, if they aren't scum then they're about as useful as anyone else.

That said, anyone blaming any other role for not revealing anything is neglecting that it's likely they don't have anything to offer, except to out themselves for a death like ShadowedFlames just suffered. I don't even know who else would be a candidate for protection... how he died is beyond me.

But back on point... we're waiting for people to show up and vote, or to at least play in some other way. It feels like we have more people occupying roles than we have people playing them. And it's incredibly frustrating for me to see that. I apologise now for my tone in some of my posts, but I'm incredibly frustrated at some of the silent or near silent players in this game. And I live with one of them, and he's going to bear a real-life brunt of that soon enough if he doesn't pick up soon.

Jaded
02-05-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm like Derek here - not convinced this is the way to go but we need to go SOME way.

VOTE: TheKenwyne

Jman2k3
02-05-2011, 02:36 PM
Before I say/do anything else... if you have used all your abilities you are NOT vanilla, you are a person who has used their abilities and now has none left. A vanilla townie is someone who starts with no abilities at all. After the number of times you've given out false/inaccurate information to people you really should be able to give accurate info back.

That is... I'm assuming you were responsible for the Night Skip on Night 3. Which given that ShadowedFlames got a result, probably should have been sent in sooner as scum could otherwise have got their abilities off before it was used.

/grumble grumble grumble

I sent it the skip pretty quickly in. Didn't wait around to send it in.

I consider vanilla, people who start out with no abilities and after they have used them up. Since you know they are simply plain and can only vote.

Derek B
02-05-2011, 02:58 PM
I sent it the skip pretty quickly in. Didn't wait around to send it in.

I consider vanilla, people who start out with no abilities and after they have used them up. Since you know they are simply plain and can only vote.

Those weren't the terms anyone else were using or would use. Vanilla is someone who starts with no abilties at all. It's this kind of inaccuracy that can get a person lynched, and given your experiences in accidentally misleading/misdirecting people AND being mislynched you should know better than almost everyone else the value of accuracy.

If you say you are vanilla without saying you were ever anything else, then people assume you were always vanilla. Which is why you ended up with votes on you in the first place.

Anywho.... lecture over cos I know I'm coming off looking like a douche. The Two is in the room next door and has been for the almsot 2 hours now. If he doesn't post soon I'm leading a lynch on him tomorrow on principle. He's just avoiding posting now and he should know better than that.

The Two
02-05-2011, 03:06 PM
I apologise now for my tone in some of my posts, but I'm incredibly frustrated at some of the silent or near silent players in this game. And I live with one of them, and he's going to bear a real-life brunt of that soon enough if he doesn't pick up soon.
I'd like to see you try. :p

In all seriousness, I am embarassed by my own lack of activity in this game. I'll try to be better.

The Two
02-05-2011, 03:09 PM
The Two is in the room next door and has been for the almsot 2 hours now. If he doesn't post soon I'm leading a lynch on him tomorrow on principle. He's just avoiding posting now and he should know better than that.
I made my plans clear as soon as I came in the door.

Can I help you with something?

Paws7297
02-05-2011, 03:24 PM
Alright because I Want to get something done. Change vote: Thekenwyne we gotta do something I Suppose.

bak42
02-05-2011, 03:33 PM
I have serious doubts about this direction but we can't sit around on our hands forever.

vote: TheKenwyne

TheKenwyne
02-05-2011, 03:37 PM
/sigh.

I've read up, and the writeups are pretty bare bones - someone's already analysed them earlier in the thread, and I don't think there's much more to draw from it.

I've already pointed out my problem with the bandwagon on me, and it appears that my opinion counts for nothing when I'm 'non-town'. I'll say it again - but there are people playing scumilly and playing silently who are getting away with it because you are all too concerned with lynching me and/or TBP. The fact that even those who believe us are voting on us because they think there's 'nothing better to do'.... reeks of a lazy town. The scum are going to have fun if this is the way you play.

Derek B
02-05-2011, 03:54 PM
I made my plans clear as soon as I came in the door.

Can I help you with something?

A vote might be helpful. Anything else you can offer would be helpful... there have been lists of surviving roles from previous games and questions previously asked by praguepride... any comments on those relating to yourself would be handy. :)

Astil
02-05-2011, 03:55 PM
It is now Evilday 5. With 27 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Saturday February 5th to reach a majority

Crychon - 1 (Comradebot)

TheKenwyne - 12 (Dragonmack, Bluestar, Arrows, Midnightnick, Destiny, MichiganHero, Jman2k3, JackalBane, praguepride, Derek_b, Jaded)



Jman2k3 - 2 (moon_lit_tears, paws7297)

DAY PHASE ENDED HERE

Derek B
02-05-2011, 04:00 PM
It is now Evilday 5. With 27 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Saturday February 5th to reach a majority

Crychon - 1 (Comradebot)

TheKenwyne - 12 (Dragonmack, Bluestar, Arrows, Midnightnick, Destiny, MichiganHero, Jman2k3, JackalBane, praguepride, Derek_b, Jaded)



Jman2k3 - 2 (moon_lit_tears, paws7297)

DAY PHASE ENDED HERE

That's... unexpectedly early. Wonder what KEVIN JOOOOONES is going on here.

The Two
02-05-2011, 04:04 PM
A vote might be helpful. Anything else you can offer would be helpful... there have been lists of surviving roles from previous games and questions previously asked by praguepride... any comments on those relating to yourself would be handy. :)
As you wish. Vote: TheKenwyne
Nothing particuarly useful to offer.
Not a surviving character.
I must have missed these questions, point me in the right direction?

moon_lit_tears
02-05-2011, 04:05 PM
As you wish. Vote: TheKenwyne
Nothing particuarly useful to offer.
Not a surviving character.
I must have missed these questions, point me in the right direction?



Hmmmmm

Astil
02-05-2011, 04:05 PM
Video Game Mafia 2
Evilday 5

The debate had raged on for two days now, and they moved in a direction that only seemed natural. While the Axis of Eviltown seemed a bit sluggish, in the end the decision was made, and they found her. She struggled for a bit, but knew things looked bad.

They hung her up, hoping they had not made a terrible mistake.

TheKenwyne is dead. He was Elika, Persia Aligned Princess

The Two
02-05-2011, 04:06 PM
It is now Evilday 5. With 27 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Saturday February 5th to reach a majority

Crychon - 1 (Comradebot)

TheKenwyne - 12 (Dragonmack, Bluestar, Arrows, Midnightnick, Destiny, MichiganHero, Jman2k3, JackalBane, praguepride, Derek_b, Jaded)



Jman2k3 - 2 (moon_lit_tears, paws7297)

DAY PHASE ENDED HERE
Huh?

If the day really has ended, that's an odd, discrete, way to announce it.

Astil
02-05-2011, 04:07 PM
It is now Night Phase 5. You have until 5:00 PM EST Sunday February 6th to PM role PMs to Astil and Prophet

Tha Black Phenom and D_w_w may speak in the thread again.

The Two
02-05-2011, 04:07 PM
Hmmmmm
Yeah, timing fail, I know.

Derek B
02-05-2011, 04:09 PM
I don't know where DJ lives, but I thought it was in the US somewhere.

US is being pounded by snow, could be he lost power or something. I know people in my area who are sans power. Luckily I'm on a solid power grid and we don't lose power for nuthin'

If he's not in the US in the middle of the storm, I've got nothing though.


Anyway, is anyone asking Sazz questions? I've got my usual three I'd like answered:

# of games in series:
First Platform game was launched:
Are you a Protagonist or Antagonist in your game?


It may be fluff but it's the kind of fluff that limits a fake claim, me thinks.

Kinda outdated given that it's like... 150ish posts old. But the questions are useful. :)

Derek B
02-05-2011, 04:09 PM
I don't know where DJ lives, but I thought it was in the US somewhere.

US is being pounded by snow, could be he lost power or something. I know people in my area who are sans power. Luckily I'm on a solid power grid and we don't lose power for nuthin'

If he's not in the US in the middle of the storm, I've got nothing though.


Anyway, is anyone asking Sazz questions? I've got my usual three I'd like answered:

# of games in series:
First Platform game was launched:
Are you a Protagonist or Antagonist in your game?


It may be fluff but it's the kind of fluff that limits a fake claim, me thinks.

Kinda outdated given that it's like... 150ish posts old. But the questions are useful. :)

Derek B
02-05-2011, 04:11 PM
Video Game Mafia 2
Evilday 5

The debate had raged on for two days now, and they moved in a direction that only seemed natural. While the Axis of Eviltown seemed a bit sluggish, in the end the decision was made, and they found her. She struggled for a bit, but knew things looked bad.

They hung her up, hoping they had not made a terrible mistake.

TheKenwyne is dead. He was Elika, Persia Aligned Princess

So, now we can concentrate on getting the silent/near silent people involved again? And lynched, if necessary?

The Two
02-05-2011, 04:12 PM
Kinda outdated given that it's like... 150ish posts old. But the questions are useful. :)
Off the top of my head, I don't know the answer to any of those. Would you like me to find them for you now, or can it wait til day phase?

Dragonmack
02-05-2011, 04:13 PM
It is now Night Phase 5. You have until 5:00 PM EST to PM role PMs to Astil and Prophet

So, we had to send you the pm's for the night actions 7 minutes BEFORE you actually posted this then?

Tha Black Phenom
02-05-2011, 04:13 PM
smh

Dragonmack
02-05-2011, 04:16 PM
Also, seems fairly obvious we have some kind of vote manipulator as well as that was a good 2 votes below majority. Gives rise to a couple of different scenarios. One person has a triple vote or someone manipulated someone with a double vote, making it count twice. ( Or perhaps someone has the ability to steal someone else's ability, and that happened to be a double vote.

Waghlon
02-05-2011, 04:20 PM
So, now we can concentrate on getting the silent/near silent people involved again? And lynched, if necessary?


Can we start with lynching me? I've been quieter than usual.

Paws7297
02-05-2011, 04:20 PM
Also, seems fairly obvious we have some kind of vote manipulator as well as that was a good 2 votes below majority. Gives rise to a couple of different scenarios. One person has a triple vote or someone manipulated someone with a double vote, making it count twice. ( Or perhaps someone has the ability to steal someone else's ability, and that happened to be a double vote.
OR there are two vote manips? :p

Derek B
02-05-2011, 04:26 PM
Can we start with lynching me? I've been quieter than usual.

I'll settle for getting you involved... but if you think you should be lynched then I'm sure that can be arranged. :p

Tha Black Phenom
02-05-2011, 04:29 PM
Seriously. Did some of you people hear yourselves in that day phase?

Going from "Kenwyne may be too important to the group" to "they're cult", when both scenarios could've been so easily disproven it's not even funny. Like when we've repeatedly both said we're vanilla and that neither of us go out, you don't think a tracker would've have been over either one of us last night? What, then you thought there was a recruiter on our sidelines or something? All that stemming from a throwaway idea derek pitched out? Sounds like a bunch of poo thrown to the wall trying to see if it sticks to me.

Dragonmack
02-05-2011, 04:43 PM
Personally , regardless of whether Thekenwyne had been truthful or not, I really don't understand a vote manipulation play there. Scum has just as much to gain by letting it drag out or seeing if the voting stalled again. At this early stage they shouldn't care that much whether an indy gets lynched or not, especially not to the point of having a potentially powerful ability outed this early.

And it wasn't like there was heavy interest or suspicion on anyone else at that point either, where ending the day phase would be beneficial.

I can kind of see it as a town play to guarantee a lynching happens, but still it doesn't seem like the best time or place to use that ability if it was indeed town.

Or maybe there is something other than vote manipulation to explain it. Perhaps one of the more experienced players has another theory.

d_w_w
02-05-2011, 04:51 PM
Ok. I've only glanced at the thread so far.

I'll admit that I was mildly annoyed to be silenced as I entered the game, but I'm over it now.

DWW - just came in. Gives an explanation of Sazz's absence. I don't want to metagame too much. Then again, D-dubs hasn't said anything other then the usual "hi" so makes me nervous.


Actually, this is my first post of the game. Astil announced that I would be a replacement, then the phase ended and I was silenced. I hadn't logged on before that happened.


Since I know you read, you could try answering some of prague's questions that he posed to Sazzita before she was replacedb by DWW, who is currently unable to answer them but who has not been forgotten about.


I'm going to read the thread from start to finish tomorrow (which shouldn't take very long - not going to do it now, as I want to catch up on the other game thread, then head over to my sister's for dinner and the UFC). When I do so, I'll make note of these questions and will address them.

praguepride
02-05-2011, 05:05 PM
You couldn't give us a tid bit of info to nibble on in the mean time? Something to whet our appetite, tide us over until tomorrow?


Come on... a little itsy bitsy nibble like # of games in your principal series?

Crychon
02-05-2011, 06:14 PM
Seriously. Did some of you people hear yourselves in that day phase?

Going from "Kenwyne may be too important to the group" to "they're cult", when both scenarios could've been so easily disproven it's not even funny. Like when we've repeatedly both said we're vanilla and that neither of us go out, you don't think a tracker would've have been over either one of us last night? What, then you thought there was a recruiter on our sidelines or something? All that stemming from a throwaway idea derek pitched out? Sounds like a bunch of poo thrown to the wall trying to see if it sticks to me.

Quick question, not that it's terribly important, but why did you guys lie about the color of your role?

Tha Black Phenom
02-05-2011, 06:31 PM
I did not lie about the color of my role. I don't think Ken did either, least I would evidently assume so.

Why Ken's role title is shown under that color I have no idea.

Astil
02-05-2011, 06:34 PM
Day Phase Write Up had a quick edit.

Clicked the wrong button...

Derek B
02-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Ok. I've only glanced at the thread so far.

I'll admit that I was mildly annoyed to be silenced as I entered the game, but I'm over it now.



Actually, this is my first post of the game. Astil announced that I would be a replacement, then the phase ended and I was silenced. I hadn't logged on before that happened.



I'm going to read the thread from start to finish tomorrow (which shouldn't take very long - not going to do it now, as I want to catch up on the other game thread, then head over to my sister's for dinner and the UFC). When I do so, I'll make note of these questions and will address them.

You couldn't give us a tid bit of info to nibble on in the mean time? Something to whet our appetite, tide us over until tomorrow?


Come on... a little itsy bitsy nibble like # of games in your principal series?

Especially since it's Superbowl weekend and even I'll be watching the game... probably... maybe... if I can be bothered. :)

Quick question, not that it's terribly important, but why did you guys lie about the color of your role?

I also want to know this. Both of you used a different colour when posting your role titles... once seems like an honest mistake since I've done that myself a couple of times. Twice is... notable.

Derek B
02-05-2011, 06:51 PM
Day Phase Write Up had a quick edit.

Clicked the wrong button...

lulz

The Two showed me something on TV and I come through to submit the post I had ready... that clears that one up. :)

Crychon
02-05-2011, 07:00 PM
Ok, nevermind then. :p

moon_lit_tears
02-05-2011, 07:27 PM
I blame Astil. LAL. I guess that means Prophet will be taking over. Were all in trouble. :p

Prophet
02-05-2011, 10:43 PM
I blame Astil. LAL. I guess that means Prophet will be taking over. Were all in trouble. :p

*Quickly searches out the loophole that allows him to take ultimate victory, by laying waste to an entire town!* Muahahahahahahahaha!

Err ... I mean ...

*Waves his hand before everyone* This is not the post you are looking for ... :p

moon_lit_tears
02-05-2011, 10:55 PM
*Quickly searches out the loophole that allows him to take ultimate victory, by laying waste to an entire town!* Muahahahahahahahaha!

Err ... I mean ...

*Waves his hand before everyone* This is not the post you are looking for ... :p

Haha....that never works. :p

The Rock 13
02-06-2011, 04:07 AM
Ohhhh, that would explain it. Silly Astil. :D

Jman2k3
02-06-2011, 03:19 PM
Whose side are you on????

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Derek B
02-06-2011, 06:28 PM
I've been kinda lurking around hoping to see a write up before I head to bed... too sleepy to stay awake for Superbowl and it doesn't look like we're getting a write up any time soon, probably because of the Superbowl. Would be nice to know that though, since deadline passed a couple of hours ago. :p

Anywho, I'm off to bed very soon. Hopefully something will come up soon or I wake up just enough to continue doing some TEW stuff for a while. Probably the sleepy option though. Yawn -> :eek:

praguepride
02-06-2011, 06:28 PM
Someone with a tv, what's the score?

Arrows
02-06-2011, 06:33 PM
14-3 Gb

Derek B
02-06-2011, 06:44 PM
14-3 Gb

I really hope no-one reading this is trying to avoid spoilers. That would be sooooo uncool. Anywho, I'm now off to bed. Try not to kill me too hard, that wouldn't be cool. Nor would silencing me... that would be really lame.

Comradebot
02-06-2011, 07:08 PM
21-10 Packers at halftime.


And if you're trying to avoid spoilers... sorry, not gonna happen here. Unless you have a family member in the hospital, you have no right to miss the Super Bowl AND ask folks not to spoil it for you.


GO PACK GO!!!

Midnightnick
02-06-2011, 08:05 PM
I waited 2 hours at Buffalo Wild Wings for dinner tonight. Got there pre-game. Left when it was the end of the 2nd quarter. Still not seated.

Bounced and went to White Castle.

Best super bowl ever.

Astil
02-06-2011, 09:50 PM
Sorry. Super Bowl. Night Phase is Over

Also: PACK!

Also also: I knew tonight was going to be a ... vacation so to say for my sXe side. So hopefully this write up is okay.

Astil
02-06-2011, 10:05 PM
VIDEO GAME MAFIA 2

Night 5

They had hoped they did not make a huge mistake during the day, and all moved into the night.

***

He moved in and spoke to his target. Yes, this would work well indeed.

***

His boredom was never satisfied. This city was nothing ... NOTHING. He moved in toward his next target. Simple, effective... one punch sent the target away.

***

He went out again, looking to help his cause. His target would be so easy to take down. He snuck up behind and grabbed the man.

PEW!

Okay, this was getting old, fast. He dropped his target and ran.

***

Petrija is a statue. She cannot post in the thread.
paws7297 is knocked out. She cannot post in the thread.

Astil
02-06-2011, 10:07 PM
It is now Evilday 6. With 26 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Tuesday February 8th to reach a majority.

moon_lit_tears
02-06-2011, 10:41 PM
So superbowl was great!!!!!

Astil
02-06-2011, 11:12 PM
All PMs should be out

Sorry for delay...

moon_lit_tears
02-06-2011, 11:33 PM
Interesting.

Vote Derek B

Any happenings last night?

Derek B
02-07-2011, 05:17 AM
Interesting.

Vote Derek B

Any happenings last night?

Nothing in the last write up I'm responsible for, if I'm right about you then the other name is someone to be lynched. :)

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 05:57 AM
Nothing in the last write up I'm responsible for, if I'm right about you then the other name is someone to be lynched. :)

Mr B...I got something last night that says you were out.. Any reason for that?

Derek B
02-07-2011, 06:16 AM
Mr B...I got something last night that says you were out.. Any reason for that?

Yeah, cos I was out. But my ability wasn't mentioned in the write up... you understand what I'm saying?

I don't mind you saying more, but I hate being wrong about other people's abilities and now I'm starting to feel like I chose the wrong one of 2 similar options for you.

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 06:20 AM
Yeah, cos I was out. But my ability wasn't mentioned in the write up... you understand what I'm saying?

I don't mind you saying more, but I hate being wrong about other people's abilities and now I'm starting to feel like I chose the wrong one of 2 similar options for you.

Hmm, I need to think on that.

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 06:31 AM
Actually, change vote: no vote

I think I got you.
:p

Derek B
02-07-2011, 06:38 AM
Hmm, I need to think on that.

No worries. If it comes down to it I can claim, it would just be a bit silly for me to need to.

You've kinda shown your hand though... anything else you want to contribute would be helpful. With so few people talking it would do the entire game good to have something else to talk about.

I also think the "Pew" person is a roleblocker now... they've either gotten lucky 3 times with their choice of target to protect OR more likely, they're targetting the same person over and over. It's smart play to keep a killer locked in the pocket... but I worry about what happens to the killer if something happens to the blocker. In short... I'd like to lynch the killer if no other leads come up. :)

Derek B
02-07-2011, 06:43 AM
Actually, change vote: no vote

I think I got you.
:p

The thing that confuses me again... silencing petrija is an odd move to make for scum. She's not voted or done anything noteworthy in this game, it's pretty much a wasted ability usage to silence her at this point. Silencing paws is more damaging for the town, but the role there is one I would expect to be town.

In short... the silencers are confusing me. In either case, it would go a long way to helping the town if they chose to NOT do anything at night. Removing voices and votes isn't good for the town, so assuming at least one of them is town they should stop doing stuff.

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 07:00 AM
Would it be silly for town to silence her?

Also, saying I got information last night hardly tips my hand...:cool:

praguepride
02-07-2011, 07:34 AM
@Silencers: could be town trying to catch scum, just cycling through everyone to see what happens.

@Roleblocker/protector: Either a killer AND protector are hitting the same target over and over again OR roleblocker has scum tied up.

Im trying to fathom why scum would target the same guy over and over:
1)Part of the ability drawback, he has to keep hitting the same guy over and over until successful. If so as.soon as you drop a watcher on the guy, weve got the killer.

2) Vig who has to kill and is trying to minimize damage until he has a clear option.


If its a roleblocker, the only reason I can fathom is that he roleblocker is scum, which implies two scum factions or an sk.


On another note, has anyone put eyes on dj? He has been quiet far too long.

The Rock 13
02-07-2011, 10:10 AM
He's normally fairly vocal, no?

To be honest though I don't really think it suggests he's scum, if you were scum there's no way you would be this inactive.

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 10:11 AM
He's normally fairly vocal, no?

To be honest though I don't really think it suggests he's scum, if you were scum there's no way you would be this inactive.

DJ is the male version of me...:p

He posts a lot in games...

d_w_w
02-07-2011, 10:20 AM
Ok. I've finally read the game thread and am going to try to contribute to the game's activity level now.

First some answers, will post some general thoughts in a bit.

# of games in series: This is a tricky question, as I'm not sure what constitutes my "series". Let's go with 8, with the caveat that it could be a lot more, depending on how you define my series.

First Platform game was launched: Nes. This answer would change as well.

Are you a Protagonist or Antagonist in your game? Antagonist.

d_w_w
02-07-2011, 10:29 AM
So, I'll admit that I pushed through the thread pretty quickly, but I'm a little bit curious about Arrows right now. I completely understood all of his points regarding the votes on Zeel (or whoever was silenced and lynched), but something still felt odd to me.

What's up with DJ? With other folks being replaced, I'm a bit lost on this.

And finally, no kills last night. Need to read the write-up again, but that either means successful protection or a failed attempt, yes?

Thoughts on the two silenced folks?

Dragonmack
02-07-2011, 10:44 AM
I got one thought. Even taking into account the two silences on petrija so far, petrija has not posted in this thread once that I can find, and hasn't been replaced, so I don't think silencing him is hurting town any at this point.

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 10:46 AM
I got one thought. Even taking into account the two silences on petrija so far, petrija has not posted in this thread once that I can find, and hasn't been replaced, so I don't think silencing HER is hurting town any at this point.


Fixed that for you.

Destiny
02-07-2011, 12:31 PM
Surely petrija is likely to be scum if she is yet to post in the game thread at this late stage in the game?

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 12:38 PM
Surely petrija is likely to be scum if she is yet to post in the game thread at this late stage in the game?

Petrija is one of the ones who are hard to read. She doesn't change much between town or scum. Could be something going on.

praguepride
02-07-2011, 12:44 PM
Surely petrija is likely to be scum if she is yet to post in the game thread at this late stage in the game?

Considering she's been silenced for almost 1/2 the game it's hard to be upset that she's not posting.


Anyway, to get things moving:

Vote: The Shape

derek started this and we got derailed a bit by Jman2k3 but looking at our "quite" folk, Shape makes me most nervous.

I know Shape is a bit of the quiet sort but a big thing on my mind is that he didn't vote for Zeel.


Also, I don't know if anyone brought this up yet but Syndicate strikes me as a cult:


He had heard the ruckus and went to go provide aid. However at his door were two men. With a single punch Inadvertant fell.

''We're takin' ova!''

The older man looked to the younger and shook his head. The younger shrugged his shoulders as if to say 'what?' and the older man sighed.



Judging by Wolf being dead, that means that Tommy Cornell is probably the leader and the "older man" in this part.

Given that only 2 are hinted at, it sounds like a cult to me. However, for those not in the TEW know, The Syndicate was a larger scum faction, and I think held 5 people in total (Tommy Cornell, Wolf Hawkins, Sam Keith, Wrestling Machine #1, Wrestling Machine #2).

Given that, it's sizable enough to be a 2nd scum group.

Dragonmack
02-07-2011, 01:16 PM
With nothing else better to offer at this point, I'll follow along this line

Vote: the Shape

Astil
02-07-2011, 01:19 PM
Front page should updated.

Astil
02-07-2011, 01:51 PM
It is now Evilday 6. With 26 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Tuesday February 8th to reach a majority.

The Shape - 2 (praguepride, Dragonmack)

BlueStar
02-07-2011, 05:00 PM
Vote; The Shape

We're getting too little info out of people at this stage and it's going to be hurting us soon!

bak42
02-07-2011, 05:33 PM
vote: The Shape

This has got to be one of the slowest mafia games I've ever played.

Derek B
02-07-2011, 05:37 PM
Vote; The Shape

We're getting too little info out of people at this stage and it's going to be hurting us soon!

Agreed.

vote: The Shape

This has got to be one of the slowest mafia games I've ever played.

Got anything you want to offer? One of the reasons things are so quiet is because people aren't saying or doing anything in the thread. Volunteering things so that we (the town :p) can get even better use of night actions would be pretty handy for all concerned.

But for now, I'm happy trying to get some quiet players into the game. If people won't volunteer things we need to force them to give things.

VOTE: The Shape

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 05:45 PM
Vote: Shape

Sounds logical.

Gabbo
02-07-2011, 05:58 PM
vote: The Shape

Recently started a new job and two jobs is proving harder than I thought to manage. Rest assured I'm following though and up to date.

I recall Shape has played this tactic as scum in the past, generally it's through genuine limited activity but he's happy to exacerbate it when required. He's very much an all or nothing player, full attention to game thread or nothing.

I think he's been alluded to in questioning twice this game previously and he popped up sharpish to answer them, so I'd assume he is reading the thread.

Either way, we need progress and the quicker this is dealt with the better.

Gabbo
02-07-2011, 06:01 PM
We're on 7 out of 14 (probably more given certain vote abilities out there), so we're reaching the number where no more votes need to go on until Shape has had a chance to respond, or at least decide whether he is going to respond.

Derek B
02-07-2011, 06:04 PM
That's us a little over halfway now... after the vote shenanigans yesterday be careful not to go beyond 10 votes or we might end up with a lynch instead of a questioning session.

I'd suggest that once we reach 10 people should put some votes on other quiet people in the hopes of drawing them out. That way if one direction dries up or becomes more useful, we can quickly move our collective votes to where they'd be of help.

Not to mention, it would be helpful to have a rolecall of active players in the vote count so we know who's here and who isn't. I'm amazed DJ hasn't been replaced in either game he's playing just now, he clearly isn't posting in them. I'd definitely suggest him as an alternate way to go.

But for now, I'm off to bed. Sometimes I hate being on UK time when most of the talking seems to happen while I'm sleeping. Makes the game feel even quieter for me. :(

Astil
02-07-2011, 06:22 PM
It is now Evilday 6. With 26 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Tuesday February 8th to reach a majority.

The Shape - 7 (praguepride, Dragonmack, BlueStar, bak42, Derek_b, moon_lit_tears, Gabbo)

The Two
02-07-2011, 06:38 PM
So yeah, I said I'd answer these today.

I've got my usual three I'd like answered:

# of games in series:
First Platform game was launched:
Are you a Protagonist or Antagonist in your game?
4 games in the series (not including spin offs).
First launched on PC.
I think I'm an antagonist, but it's possible I'm just a supporting character. Don't know the games at all, so I'm not really sure what part I play.


If the "Pew!" character is a roleblocker and hitting the same person every night, their target would be good information to have. Of course if they're a protector, they're either really lucky or there's somebody the scum really want dead.

I'm happy to add to the pressure on Mr Shape - Vote: The Shape

praguepride
02-07-2011, 06:53 PM
4 games, hmmm?
2004
2005
2007
2008
2010... damn :(

praguepride
02-07-2011, 07:00 PM
You said it first launched on computer. Does that mean it spun off into modern consoles like xbox360?

And as for spin-offs, were there a bunch of them or just a few?

Finally would you describe your game as "genre defining"?

Jman2k3
02-07-2011, 07:31 PM
Vote: The Shape

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 08:11 PM
Change vote: no vote

Do you guys read?

Crychon
02-07-2011, 09:28 PM
Those... Piled up quick.

praguepride
02-07-2011, 09:39 PM
Those... Piled up quick.

Quiet, Kryton...er...Crychon!


FYI, I watch too much Red Dwarf

moon_lit_tears
02-07-2011, 09:40 PM
Quiet, Kryton...er...Crychon!


FYI, I watch too much Red Dwarf

I actually thought of Farscape when I seen that.

praguepride
02-07-2011, 09:45 PM
I actually thought of Farscape when I seen that.

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOE7qTAK87o

Dragonmack
02-07-2011, 11:58 PM
I actually thought of Farscape when I seen that.

Thats Crichton, not Kryton for Farscape, but yeah, sounds the same. And I love Farscape. Was a sad panda when that got cancelled.

moon_lit_tears
02-08-2011, 12:35 AM
Thats Crichton, not Kryton for Farscape, but yeah, sounds the same. And I love Farscape. Was a sad panda when that got cancelled.Me 2.

Yeah different spelling, but pronounced the same.

I seldom get into a show, but that one had my attention. I mean how often do you see people fly around in a pregnant ship? :p

".........."...............

Ontopic. The votes flying quick after the stuff last phase and the fact we want to give the guy a chance to talk. I mean lynching someone before they defend themselves is just.....mean....:p

BlueStar
02-08-2011, 02:54 AM
Change vote: no vote

What are the odds on a killer being silenced/blocked/statued last night?

JackalBane
02-08-2011, 04:20 AM
Change vote: no vote

What are the odds on a killer being silenced/blocked/statued last night?
Very good odds of blocked, but unsure about silenced or statued.

Derek B
02-08-2011, 05:37 AM
Change vote: no vote

Do you guys read?

In Jman's defense, the vote was still only at 9 players when his was added and I'd suggested we go to to 10. But the fact he didn't stay around long enough to say that himself makes me wonder if that was coincidence anyways....

The way this game is going I'm getting close to just revealing my role... if for no other reason than to get some talk going and to help build things up.

MLT, you've all but revealed what it is you do already. And if that isn't what you do all the time, people won't know that unless you say otherwise, making you a prime target for the next night phase. If I werein your position I'd reveal everything you knew so far, or at least say if what you did last night was typical... because as of right now I think you will die in the next night phase. And that would be lame.

Not as lame as the other mafia game going surpassing this one in post count (during Day 3 vs our day 6) but still pretty lame.

And now, I'm off to work. Given that everyone else will likely be doing the same while I'm out, I predict 6 posts by time I get back on. Might as well turn this into a mini-game for myself...

Gabbo
02-08-2011, 06:25 AM
Change vote: no vote

What are the odds on a killer being silenced/blocked/statued last night?

High.

Post list:
Waghlon 8
Midnightnick 8
The Shape 4
d_w_w 3
Wrestling Century 2

Aswell as no posts from DJ or Pet.

All of them are fairly to very vocal players usually. I find it strange they all have activity issues. Shape is being dealt with asap, but inactivity should be the back-up lynch every day, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah - I know it could backfire on us, but how badly? A big role that isn't being used? A vote that isn't being cast? I'd rather make the gesture as a warning to scum that laying low won't help you progress in this game.

/inactivity grumbles

However, in defence of DJ not being replaced; he's one of the very few players on this site, (maybe only him and Outlaw) who would be able to do nothing all game, both at day and night and the mods would be hesitant to replace. Just because they'd want them in their game. So he may not necessarily be exclusively doing stuff at night, but even still it's worth probing.

moon_lit_tears
02-08-2011, 06:34 AM
Derek, what is it I do at night?

How is me asking you a question making me a prime target?

I'm harmless to scum. Let them target me at night and waste a phase on someone they don't need to. :cool:

d_w_w
02-08-2011, 09:33 AM
Waghlon 8
Midnightnick 8
The Shape 4
d_w_w 3
Wrestling Century 2



Wrestling Century was replaced by Crychon, IIRC.

I have only been in the game for one day and night phase. And I was silenced during the day phase. And then there was UFC 126 and the Superbowl during the night phase.

I'm going to try to reread things, see if I can't put stuff together, and be more active. Having said that, as always, I am going to be less active on Tuesdays and Thursdays. These are my busier days.

If push comes to shove, I guess I would be willing to vote on The Shape. My reasons are practically unfair (they are related to the manner in which replacement has been handled), but I think, with a lack of anything else, it is reasonable to focus on the inactives.

bak42
02-08-2011, 10:30 AM
Got anything you want to offer? One of the reasons things are so quiet is because people aren't saying or doing anything in the thread. Volunteering things so that we (the town :p) can get even better use of night actions would be pretty handy for all concerned.

Unfortunately, my sole method of gathering information this game is from the thread. And the lack of communication really hampers that.

moon_lit_tears
02-08-2011, 10:34 AM
Wrestling Century was replaced by Crychon, IIRC.

I have only been in the game for one day and night phase. And I was silenced during the day phase. And then there was UFC 126 and the Superbowl during the night phase.

I'm going to try to reread things, see if I can't put stuff together, and be more active. Having said that, as always, I am going to be less active on Tuesdays and Thursdays. These are my busier days.

If push comes to shove, I guess I would be willing to vote on The Shape. My reasons are practically unfair (they are related to the manner in which replacement has been handled), but I think, with a lack of anything else, it is reasonable to focus on the inactives.

If that's got you pushing, why not the lack of a post from DJ?

Interesting he has not posted ANYWHERE. Could be IRL issues, but who knows...

Derek B
02-08-2011, 10:56 AM
Derek, what is it I do at night?

How is me asking you a question making me a prime target?

I'm harmless to scum. Let them target me at night and waste a phase on someone they don't need to. :cool:

The logical ability is tracker and they die a lot... would explain why you "got" my hints. Otherwise you bluffed info out of me, which I'll give you kudos for even though all you really needed to do was ask. :p

....

I'm fine with putting DJ on the block next, whether that be later in this phase if The Shape says/does something to defend himself OR in the next phase. And petrija next after that if necessary.

I don't know how the mods deal with replacements generally speaking (I think the previous ones asked to be replaced) but with no posts the players are either doing something and not contributing in thread OR are doing nothing and not contributing at all. Either way, they aren't helping and shouldn't be allowed to continue playing, whether that be at the hands of players or mods.

The Two
02-08-2011, 11:04 AM
4 games, hmmm?
2004
2005
2007
2008
2010... damn :(
I have no idea what you had in mind... but wrong.

You said it first launched on computer. Does that mean it spun off into modern consoles like xbox360?

And as for spin-offs, were there a bunch of them or just a few?

Finally would you describe your game as "genre defining"?
Yes.
Yes.
I'm really not qualified to answer that.

The Two
02-08-2011, 11:05 AM
And now, I'm off to work. Given that everyone else will likely be doing the same while I'm out, I predict 6 posts by time I get back on. Might as well turn this into a mini-game for myself...
Oooh, only five. You lost the game.

moon_lit_tears
02-08-2011, 11:06 AM
The logical ability is tracker and they die a lot... would explain why you "got" my hints. Otherwise you bluffed info out of me, which I'll give you kudos for even though all you really needed to do was ask. :p


Well I need to keep some secrets don't I?

Tracker is not the only way I would have gotten your hint. C'mon. :p

I can think of 3. If I can think of 3 I'm sure you could think of more. :p

Or....

I could have wanted information based on feeling and may have gotten your hint, but let's face it I'm probably wrong...or right...or neither.

Derek B
02-08-2011, 11:38 AM
Well I need to keep some secrets don't I?

Tracker is not the only way I would have gotten your hint. C'mon. :p

I can think of 3. If I can think of 3 I'm sure you could think of more. :p

Or....

I could have wanted information based on feeling and may have gotten your hint, but let's face it I'm probably wrong...or right...or neither.

Certainly isn't the only way, but is definitely the way that the majority of people would think. While it's possible you understand what I've been getting at I'm not 100% sure you do. Not that I'm going to complain about it anyways, as if you're happy about what I've said then I am too. :p

Hopefully you don't end up dead anyways, that's the main point. Even if you are actually a vanilla townie who managed to get me to speak up a bit about my own role, that's still more than most are doing. Personally, I'd laugh my ass off if you turned out to be PGO and I was wrong. That would be the sweetest thing ever, especially since I'm not likely to target you any time soon. :p

The Shape
02-08-2011, 12:35 PM
Asked if he had anyone willing to replace me and haven't heard anything, head really hasn't been in the game. I'll stick it out while I'm here though. Unless the lynch already went through.

Derek B
02-08-2011, 12:37 PM
Asked if he had anyone willing to replace me and haven't heard anything, head really hasn't been in the game. I'll stick it out while I'm here though. Unless the lynch already went through.

Nothing has gone through yet, but you will be lynched if you don't give everyone something soon. What's the point of jumping in to post a message that doesn't address anything, especially given that you know you have a bunch of votes on you? It just looks like you are stalling for time, which won't work at this stage of the game.

Jaded
02-08-2011, 02:48 PM
Vote: The Shape

Sorry, but this looks like a blatant stall.

Derek B
02-08-2011, 03:03 PM
Vote: The Shape

Sorry, but this looks like a blatant stall.

*sigh*

I wish I could disagree, but anyone who comes on at halfway to lynch says nothing and disappears deserves to be lynched.

There's about 7 hours to go, I think he's on 8 of 14 votes. Time to finish this one off barring a massive last minute revelation from Shape.

MichiganHero
02-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Agreed Derek agreed.

VOTE : The Shape

Waghlon
02-08-2011, 03:09 PM
I wish I could disagree, but anyone who comes on at halfway to lynch says nothing and disappears deserves to be lynched.



Dear sir, I would like to use this as my official reason to Vote: The Shape

Gabbo
02-08-2011, 03:24 PM
Don't understand not posting anything. If you're town it's selfish play, it's not hard to give us something to save yourself, especially if you don't care about dying tonight.

Prophet
02-08-2011, 03:49 PM
It is now Evilday 6. With 26 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Tuesday February 8th to reach a majority.

The Shape - 10 (praguepride, Dragonmack, bak42, Derek_b, Gabbo, The Two, Jman2k3, Jaded, MichiganHero, Waghlon)

If you see any mistakes, errors, miscues, or general sloppiness, blame Canada! :p

praguepride
02-08-2011, 03:52 PM
FINISH HIM!!!!

(hint: not a hint)

Tha Black Phenom
02-08-2011, 04:00 PM
Still on the one lead a day frequency... hmm. may vote if you guys really want me to.

It is now Evilday 6. With 26 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Tuesday February 8th to reach a majority.

The Shape - 10 (praguepride, Dragonmack, bak42, Derek_b, Gabbo, The Two, Jman2k3, Jaded, MichiganHero, Waghlon)

If you see any mistakes, errors, miscues, or general sloppiness, blame Canada! :p

HEY

moon_lit_tears
02-08-2011, 04:06 PM
Certainly isn't the only way, but is definitely the way that the majority of people would think. While it's possible you understand what I've been getting at I'm not 100% sure you do. Not that I'm going to complain about it anyways, as if you're happy about what I've said then I am too. :p

Hopefully you don't end up dead anyways, that's the main point. Even if you are actually a vanilla townie who managed to get me to speak up a bit about my own role, that's still more than most are doing. Personally, I'd laugh my ass off if you turned out to be PGO and I was wrong. That would be the sweetest thing ever, especially since I'm not likely to target you any time soon. :p

Could be. I've been doing some reading from past games. Won't say what game I was reading but I like how the role was played and the ability too. So I won't reveal my ability, but wouldn't that be kick ass if scum wound up dead tomorrow and I wasn't. :p


vote: The shape.

JackalBane
02-08-2011, 04:27 PM
Vote: The Shape

Getting ready to watch Cinderella turn into a pumpkin. :)

...wait...nevermind

Prophet
02-08-2011, 04:28 PM
It is now Evilday 6. With 26 remaining majority is 14. You have until 11:00 PM EST Tuesday February 8th to reach a majority.

The Shape - 12 (praguepride, Dragonmack, bak42, Derek_b, Gabbo, The Two, Jman2k3, Jaded, MichiganHero, Waghlon, moon_lit_tears, JackalBane)

If you see something you think is wrong, please say so, so I can quietly edit it, and pretend I never did such a thing.

HEY

Oh, I meant ... the other Canada ... ? *Runs away!*

d_w_w
02-08-2011, 04:34 PM
Very odd non-response to the votes, though I could see someone doing that if they were totally not into the game.

Though, if they're not into the game, not sure how much help they'll be.

I'm about to head out. Want me to drop my vote or wait until I get home and on the computer (might be a few hours)?

Derek B
02-08-2011, 05:08 PM
Very odd non-response to the votes, though I could see someone doing that if they were totally not into the game.

Though, if they're not into the game, not sure how much help they'll be.

I'm about to head out. Want me to drop my vote or wait until I get home and on the computer (might be a few hours)?

Entirely for selfish reasons of trying to get the night phase ending while I'm awake (assuming it's 24 hours and there's someone not getting an ability in on time), I'd love for you to drop your vote now. But there's no need to do it yet with 5 hours to spare, as long as you are around. Although with there being some kind of voting shenanigans afoot, it might be better....

Go with your gut, it's probably easier. Though since your post is from 30 minutes ago, I suspect this post isn't timely enough to be an issue. :p

The Shape
02-08-2011, 05:21 PM
I was home for like 5 minutes, all I had time to post.

I'm Conker, Axis of Eviltown Aligned Crazy Squirrel

Hider, though I haven't sent anything in any night so far, so not sure how that'll have worked.

The Shape
02-08-2011, 05:48 PM
I gotta go to bed, if you do end up lynching me then sorry for wasting your time, not going to go into why I've not been around but yeah, I'm sure I can still be of some use.

praguepride
02-08-2011, 09:55 PM
I don't know much about the Conker series, but I do know two things:


1) Conker was the protagonist, albeit a psychotic one
2) Conker was anything but subtle.

(warning all below is probably NSFW)

Exhibit A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI5plwd_qtE

Exhibit B:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-QbinCakgU

Exhibit C:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW0VmQFwPfc


I just... I just don't see Conker as a "Hider" style role...


My vote stays for now, this just reeks to me as a fake claim.

moon_lit_tears
02-08-2011, 10:54 PM
Doesn't matter. People are going to sit and do nothing.

Those same people will complain when all is said and done that we should have won.

Astil
02-08-2011, 11:14 PM
Day Phase is Over

It is now Night Phase 6. You have until 11:00 PM EST Wednesday February 9th to send all PMs to Prophet and Astil

Astil
02-08-2011, 11:16 PM
Video Game Mafia 2

Something seemed to pull them back. Where they close to a mistake, or another threat nuetralized. Unfortunetly they would have to wait another day, as like Metal Gear Solid 4, this day was long winded with no real substance.

Yeah. I went there.

No lynch was achieved

Astil
02-08-2011, 11:23 PM
Petrija and Paws7297 can speak in the thread.

Derek B
02-09-2011, 04:26 AM
Video Game Mafia 2

Something seemed to pull them back. Where they close to a mistake, or another threat nuetralized. Unfortunetly they would have to wait another day, as like Metal Gear Solid 4, this day was long winded with no real substance.

Yeah. I went there.

No lynch was achieved

Sorry I didn't check back in here between my last post and bed... not that it would have made any difference cos it seems not enough other people did either.

If there are any townie vigs here, kill a silent player please. That way we can at least make lynch totals more achievable without losing anything that is being put to use anyways. Preferably DJ, as he's not even had a game related excuse to not post so is literally wasting space here. Petrija can be lynched later and....

I really hope there isn't a cult out there. We might not be losing a lot of people at night, but if there's a cult they're kicking everyone's ass right now to the point that it'll be hard to lynch them with the current activity levels.

Destiny
02-09-2011, 07:34 AM
Apologies for not being around for much of the last day phase. Admittedly I should have probably voted.

The Rock 13
02-09-2011, 10:24 AM
I kind of believe Shape's claim, it's the Hider thing that's iffy. I suppose that sometimes in games though roles do have to be loosely relate at times.

Sorry I wasn't around yesterday, and for well pretty much the whole game. Just took the Spanish re-sit so all is well for the next few weeks.

praguepride
02-09-2011, 11:13 AM
I think if a vig is handy he should swing at The Shape so we can avoid wasting another day trying to lynch him.


The character itself is questionable. Conker hasn't been an active series for nearly a decade (the 2005 release was a remake of the original).

The character itself was a protagonist hero, albeit a shady one.
The role ability is questionable as the gameplay didn't involve "stealth" or "avoidance" or "hiding" in any conceivable fashion. If anything, the psychotic squirrel was blatant, in your face, and the word "subtle" was completely lost.

Finally, the timing is very questionable. The Shape has been talked about for 2 phases now, but only provided any details 5 hours before deadline.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that Shape is either scum or cult.

But, if he's telling the truth then if he really is hiding then the vig won't be able to hit him and IF his ability is true, then the rest of his claim could very well be true as well. But we won't know unless someone tests it out...

And if he's lying, the vig solves that problem and answers quite a few questions.

Tha Black Phenom
02-09-2011, 11:38 AM
Just to offer one of my unbiased opinions, but you're likely asking for trouble if you forward the idea of the vig going for Shape. There's so much potential for derailment and shane-hanigans. There's much simpler ways of testing his claim and you can most likely take care of him during the day.

But I'm just sayin'.

praguepride
02-09-2011, 11:51 AM
Hmmm... I did a little more research into Conker. Conker is a cult icon...

Don't know if I buy the role though. Seems more akin to a JOAT considering how context sensitive the whole game was. Every world was different with different abilities and settings etc.

Jaded
02-09-2011, 12:09 PM
Not convinced vigging Shape would be the way forward, as TBP points out there are ways of testing his claim with less potential to screw up.

Derek B
02-09-2011, 12:53 PM
If there's a vig I hope they do something. Similarly, I hope the townie silencer chooses to do nothing or goes picks an inactive poster to target. If the silencers hit talkative people I'm not even going to care what alignment they may or may not be, I'll personally crusade against them for making boneheaded choices.

That said, there's no reason for people to not talk at night. I used to be a strong proponent of people staying quiet at night, but in recent months (perhaps a year or so now) I've been largely in favour of people talking. Scum generally need to think hard about their actions since they have to quickly reshuffle things if new info comes up, which requires a lot of people to talk. So if the town keep using the night to at least talk strategy, if not to actively question people, then that mostly stands to benefit the town.

With that in mind, I'm going to lead a lynch on anyone with less than 10 posts in this game over the next phase. Someone will die because of it, there will be no more no lynches in this game. Laying low will no longer be an option. Death will happen. Somehow.

praguepride
02-09-2011, 02:37 PM
At this stage there shouldn't be any no lynches, we're on D6!!

There's a potentially huge cult out there, we haven't seen any members of primary or secondary scum except for one lynch..

You'd think people would be up in arms by this point, but everybody is stalling, dragging their feet.

We need conviction! We need men (and especially women) of action! We need to burn everybody and let Bowser, may his enemies rest in pieces, sort 'em out.

praguepride
02-09-2011, 02:38 PM
First up: Gonvick

So Mr. 1 post. Watcha doing?

Jaded
02-09-2011, 02:39 PM
List of posts so far from currently alive players... (I nearly said 'active' players but that's pushing it with the bottom three)

Moon_lit_tears 80
Derek B 60
Praguepride 48
Destiny 38
Dragonmack 34
paws7297 28
BlueStar 25
Tha Black Phenom 25
Crychon 25
Arrows 24
JMan2k3 21
Comradebot 17
bak42 17
The Two 13
Zeel1 12
Gabbo 12
The Rock 10
Waghlon 9
midnight frickin' nick 8
The Shape 7
Jaded 7 (including this one)
MichiganHero 6
trypio 6
Rabbitman 5
DWW 5 (replaced sazzita and was silenced quickly)
Gonvick 1

DJtheFunkChris ZERO
Petrija ZERO

Astil
02-09-2011, 02:49 PM
First up: Gonvick

So Mr. 1 post. Watcha doing?

Being dead...

MichiganHero
02-09-2011, 02:51 PM
Being dead...

Good reason for not posting.

Jaded
02-09-2011, 03:03 PM
First up: Gonvick

So Mr. 1 post. Watcha doing?

Being dead...

He's still on the player's list, which confused me as well...

Tha Black Phenom
02-09-2011, 03:18 PM
Along with Zeel, matter of fact. Guessing that's why you included him in that post count list.

Jaded
02-09-2011, 03:26 PM
Along with Zeel, matter of fact. Guessing that's why you included him in that post count list.

*nods*

Sorry for any confusion caused.

praguepride
02-09-2011, 04:03 PM
/facepalm.

So, assuming DJ has abanonded us and there is no hope of return:

Rabbitman: what do you have to say for yourself?

Dragonmack
02-09-2011, 04:24 PM
Rabbitman was replaced by Jackalbane. Already looked into that.

trypio
02-09-2011, 04:48 PM
With that in mind, I'm going to lead a lynch on anyone with less than 10 posts in this game over the next phase. Someone will die because of it, there will be no more no lynches in this game. Laying low will no longer be an option. Death will happen. Somehow.

Better get my post count up then... :eek:

Nah, just kidding, I'm always rather quiet. I don't really say anything unless I've got something useful to say (or when I'm up for a lynch ;)).

Last dayphase when I was here there were too much vote on Shape for me to pile up one more without talking to him, and after his claim I was unsure about believing him or not so I decided not to try to get him lynched just for the heck of lynching someone.

There was also not enough time left to go for another target at that point.

i effin rule
02-09-2011, 04:57 PM
Night time? Sweet.


I'm needing some replacement parts for my game if anyone is interested. Just pm me.

praguepride
02-09-2011, 04:58 PM
grrrrr....

can we get an update on the front paage? Im tired of looking bad :(

Astil
02-09-2011, 05:31 PM
Hm... I had thought whenever I added someone to the graveyard I deleted them from the main list. My bad.

Front Page Updated

mjdgoldeneye 2.0 has replaced Petrija

Astil
02-09-2011, 05:36 PM
It is now Night Phase 6. You have until 11:00 PM EST Wednesday February 9th to send all PMs to Prophet and Astil

mjdgoldeneye
02-09-2011, 05:45 PM
Here I am.

Seeing as it's night phase, can anyone give me a basic summary of things so far?

moon_lit_tears
02-09-2011, 06:01 PM
Here I am.

Seeing as it's night phase, can anyone give me a basic summary of things so far?

You're scum, and we are going to lynch you quickly. :p

Derek B
02-09-2011, 06:55 PM
First up: Gonvick

So Mr. 1 post. Watcha doing?

Being dead...

/facepalm.

So, assuming DJ has abanonded us and there is no hope of return:

Rabbitman: what do you have to say for yourself?

Rabbitman was replaced by Jackalbane. Already looked into that.

grrrrr....

can we get an update on the front paage? Im tired of looking bad :(

And here I was thinking you were a note taker. Now I know to never, ever listen to anything you ever say again due to your multiple fails. Picard is too embarassed to come to your aid... as are all lolcats... even the scum smiley has deserted you in your time of need. :eek:

Here I am.

Seeing as it's night phase, can anyone give me a basic summary of things so far?

You're scum, and we are going to lynch you quickly. :p

I think that sums it up pretty accurately. :p

Seriously though, very little has been happening apart from the lynch of a claimed indy for maybe being a cultist who appears to have been telling the truth about being indy.

There may or may not be a cult based on what has been happening in the write ups, but due to inactivity there has been no-one around to say or do much about anything anyways.

....

So, what can you tell us about petrija's use of your role prior to your soul taking over another host? Been up to anything interesting? Been up to anything at all? If you don't speak during the night phase I'll probably slap a vote on you on principle in the day phase, since your role has made only 1 post and it was a "catch me up post". :p

But seriously... hasn't been a lot of posts, I recommend looking at write ups and drawing your own conclusions fasts, while answering questions quickly so that people can choose what to do in the day phase. You've got 6 days of looking scummy to make up for, which means you're gonna get about 94 votes on you tomorrow if my math holds.

mjdgoldeneye
02-09-2011, 07:06 PM
So, what can you tell us about petrija's use of your role prior to your soul taking over another host? Been up to anything interesting? Been up to anything at all? If you don't speak during the night phase I'll probably slap a vote on you on principle in the day phase, since your role has made only 1 post and it was a "catch me up post". :p

She's done absolutely nothing.

But seriously... hasn't been a lot of posts, I recommend looking at write ups and drawing your own conclusions fasts, while answering questions quickly so that people can choose what to do in the day phase. You've got 6 days of looking scummy to make up for, which means you're gonna get about 94 votes on you tomorrow if my math holds.

Well, I'm not here to make a herculean effort to rectify basically nothing. I'm here because a late arrival is better for a game than a total no-show.

Petrija posted a total of 0 times so you can't say she was suspicious. She just decided she wasn't going to play for whatever reason.

I, logically, should be about as suspicious as anyone on Day 1 i.e. not all that suspicious at all.

I'll answer questions, but I can't exactly defend myself when my predecessor hasn't done ANYTHING and hasn't even logged into the site in 4 days. :p

Crychon
02-09-2011, 07:09 PM
Hm... I had thought whenever I added someone to the graveyard I deleted them from the main list. My bad.

Front Page Updated

mjdgoldeneye 2.0 has replaced Petrija

It should probably reflect that I replaced Wrestling Century as well.

Derek B
02-09-2011, 07:11 PM
She's done absolutely nothing.



Well, I'm not here to make a herculean effort to rectify basically nothing. I'm here because a late arrival is better for a game than a total no-show.

Petrija posted a total of 0 times so you can't say she was suspicious. She just decided she wasn't going to play for whatever reason.

I, logically, should be about as suspicious as anyone on Day 1 i.e. not all that suspicious at all.

I'll answer questions, but I can't exactly defend myself when my predecessor hasn't done ANYTHING and hasn't even logged into the site in 4 days. :p

Nope. It's Night 6 going on Day 7.... your role is as suspicious as any other role that has posted 0 times in that space of time, especially if there is a threat of a cult. Given how little has been said by almost everyone, there's a lot of suspicion going around.

However, I can't be suspicious of MJD2.0's tactics within this game... but I can be suspicious of petrija's with the same role.

You're online now. If you give something then I can move on. If you don't, then you're on the voting block for stonewalling. Them's the breaks. :p

mjdgoldeneye
02-09-2011, 07:15 PM
My write-up breakdown:

They're insanely vague for the most part.

This game is a combination of very light write-ups, Astil's interest in silliness, and the hard-to-avoid mod self-indulgence of most genre/media based games.

That said, I can't come with ideas as to what characters are in any of the write-ups and I honestly can't say, despite being a life-long gamer, that I've heard of half the people in the graveyard.

Magnotta I know because he was Christopher Walken, Wolf Hawkins because... duh... and Fox, Bowser, and Save Point because they're your standard video game fare.

The others I'm not familiar with. (Unless you count the people that died in the opening, I know them too.)

As a show of good will, I will say that I know my character. That's kind of meaningless because if I had an obvious scum role I'd have to fake claim something I know anyway, but still... :p My character is fairly well known too.

moon_lit_tears
02-09-2011, 07:20 PM
Nope. It's Night 6 going on Day 7.... your role is as suspicious as any other role that has posted 0 times in that space of time, especially if there is a threat of a cult. Given how little has been said by almost everyone, there's a lot of suspicion going around.

However, I can't be suspicious of MJD2.0's tactics within this game... but I can be suspicious of petrija's with the same role.

You're online now. If you give something then I can move on. If you don't, then you're on the voting block for stonewalling. Them's the breaks. :p

We are still in night phase.....

mjdgoldeneye
02-09-2011, 07:21 PM
However, I can't be suspicious of MJD2.0's tactics within this game... but I can be suspicious of petrija's with the same role.

She had no tactics. She has literally be 100% MIA from the start of the game. Notice how I replaced her... :p

She was a non-player. She wasn't hiding, she was flat-out missing.

She has an ability, never used it. She never PM'd Astil. She never posted.

Gone.

You're online now. If you give something then I can move on. If you don't, then you're on the voting block for stonewalling. Them's the breaks. :p

And I've said all I can. It doesn't matter what's been happening in the game, the former player of my role wouldn't know one way or the other.

This situation kind of reminds me of the news story with the cat that was called for jury duty or some sort of Monty Python sketch. I'm not sure why, but that's how I feel... :p

All I'm thinking is "You don't understand..."

Derek B
02-09-2011, 07:45 PM
We are still in night phase.....

Which I say in the post you quoted. :p

She had no tactics. She has literally be 100% MIA from the start of the game. Notice how I replaced her... :p

She was a non-player. She wasn't hiding, she was flat-out missing.

She has an ability, never used it. She never PM'd Astil. She never posted.

Gone.



And I've said all I can. It doesn't matter what's been happening in the game, the former player of my role wouldn't know one way or the other.

This situation kind of reminds me of the news story with the cat that was called for jury duty or some sort of Monty Python sketch. I'm not sure why, but that's how I feel... :p

All I'm thinking is "You don't understand..."

You said she logged in 4 days ago in one of your earlier posts... so she's been on the site, had the chance and could therefore just be stonewalling. Others have been replaced too having been taking part...

Don't make me use your own words against you. :p

Anywho, you've contribute at least a little something. It's pretty much meaningless but it's a building block for now, which is something we all need more of. I'm considering just full claiming everything in the next phase anyways just to get things moving... but I hate claiming for any reason and that would be the lamest reason I'd ever claimed for yet.

Derek B
02-09-2011, 07:54 PM
On account of it being 2am here, I'm off to bed. Seems like the reasonable thing to do since I'm working most of the day tomorrow... I hate when overtime dries up, means I have to take everything I can get, which ain't much. Stupid seasonal trends! :p

mjdgoldeneye
02-09-2011, 08:07 PM
You said she logged in 4 days ago in one of your earlier posts... so she's been on the site, had the chance and could therefore just be stonewalling. Others have been replaced too having been taking part...

Don't make me use your own words against you. :p

Anywho, you've contribute at least a little something. It's pretty much meaningless but it's a building block for now, which is something we all need more of. I'm considering just full claiming everything in the next phase anyways just to get things moving... but I hate claiming for any reason and that would be the lamest reason I'd ever claimed for yet.

I know she hasn't been playing... Astil brought me up to speed on the role by basically saying "She didn't do anything. Good luck." :p

You'd figure that if someone was playing but purposely being quiet, they'd PM the mod and tell them not to replace them. Or, you know, they'd send in an ability PM from time to time... :rolleyes:

Also, there's more roles that need to be filled than players to fill them. A mod has to make replacements somewhat arbitrarily or they can say stuff like what you just said.

Astil
02-09-2011, 10:12 PM
Night Phase is Over

Astil
02-09-2011, 10:29 PM
Video Game Mafia 2

Night Phase 6

Once again they moved to the night, without answers, hoping for something better in the day time.

***

He took his target aside. Once again someone would be shown the way.

***

He walked with a purpose towards his target but a samurai stood in his way. Weird. He would have to try again at a later point.

***

She was alone, confused at why she was weaker than before. It was quick, painless. Crychon couldn't respond to the attack that killed her.

***

He finished his magic, but had a blank look in his eyes. He wasn't himself. That didn't stop the blade from sliding through Dragonmack.

***

He moved in. Today someone would feel pain! There goal would move closer to reality. His target, finally someone he could strike.

Cold steel against the back of his neck. Sunnuva! He jerked forward as the Samurai moved to cut him. It was silly now, he would never get to do anything.

***

The Two is a statue. He cannot talk in the thread.
The Shape is knocked out. He cannot talk in the thread.
Crychon is dead. He was Ultimeccia, Axis of Eviltown Aligned Time Witch
Dragonmack is dead. He was Vaati, Axis of Eviltown Aligned Stoner

It is now Evilday 7. With 24 remaining it is 13 to majority. You have until 11:00 PM EST Friday February 11th to reach majority

Astil
02-09-2011, 10:35 PM
All PMs should be out.

moon_lit_tears
02-09-2011, 10:49 PM
So if the statue person targeted T2...is this good or bad?

Jman2k3
02-09-2011, 11:05 PM
So if the statue person targeted T2...is this good or bad?

No clue.

Hope we get some answers this phase out of people.

moon_lit_tears
02-09-2011, 11:13 PM
No clue.

Hope we get some answers this phase out of people.

I think I know the character, but the choices the person is making makes me wonder their alignment.

Tha Black Phenom
02-09-2011, 11:21 PM
Silencing quiet people.. (and myself! *shakes fist*) ...sounds pretty town to me.

moon_lit_tears
02-09-2011, 11:22 PM
T2 hasn't been very quiet though.....

Tha Black Phenom
02-09-2011, 11:32 PM
Well he's on the lower list of posters. Maybe the silencer has a degree of suspicion on him too.

Jman2k3
02-09-2011, 11:34 PM
Well he's on the lower list of posters. Maybe the silencer has a degree of suspicion on him too.

Maybe.

Jaded
02-10-2011, 12:11 AM
If you were the Shape and had claimed hider wouldn't you have made REALLY sure you actually, y'know, HID?

Vote: The Shape

Derek B
02-10-2011, 04:19 AM
Okay, seems no-one looked at the roles from the previous game that I posted. The stoner silencer was Vaati AKA Dragonmack, the recently deceased. The write up section where he dies it says he "has a blank look in his eyes"... which might very well tie into person being shown what to do in an earlier section of the write up.

Might not be, but that would explain things as it's the first time the "blank eyes" thing has been mentioned and that doesn't fit the character from the quick image search I just did.

Though it doesn't explain why he was out silencing people in the first place... especially after the lack of posting in this game. I can't see it being mandatory, so Dragonmack is going on my future hitlist until proven otherwise. :p

If you were the Shape and had claimed hider wouldn't you have made REALLY sure you actually, y'know, HID?

Vote: The Shape

A very good point indeed. Mafia should never be top priority, but if you're gonna show up to post then you could at least send a mod a PM once every 24 hours or even in advance. Since he can't post, he's a leading lynch candidate for the day.

I'm going to go through notes again later and see what I can pull out. But it might not actually be until tomorrow as I'm working all day and I'm needed elsewhere too in real life. Will do what I can though.

praguepride
02-10-2011, 05:27 AM
So...even though he turned up town, you still think he's scum :rolleyes:


Anyway:
Vote: The Shape

LAL and all that jazz!

Crychon
02-10-2011, 06:19 AM
So that's why it was never updated. :(

moon_lit_tears
02-10-2011, 06:28 AM
Hmm, It appears I was wrong about something then....:confused:

Not to take up for him, but he did say he had not used his ability at all...

Astil
02-10-2011, 06:32 AM
Gonvick 2.0 has replaced Bluestar

trypio
02-10-2011, 07:40 AM
If you were the Shape and had claimed hider wouldn't you have made REALLY sure you actually, y'know, HID?

Vote: The Shape

Makes sense...

But I personally think we should wait until a few hours before deadline to lynch him and pursue other targets first. Anyone got ideas?

praguepride
02-10-2011, 09:16 AM
Id rather lynch early then lose another day on a no lynch

moon_lit_tears
02-10-2011, 09:19 AM
So blue gets replaced. He WAS active in the thread with 25 posts, yet DJ is still in the game and has posted ZERO.


Vote: Dj

bak42
02-10-2011, 09:33 AM
If you were the Shape and had claimed hider wouldn't you have made REALLY sure you actually, y'know, HID?

Vote: The Shape

So blue gets replaced. He WAS active in the thread with 25 posts, yet DJ is still in the game and has posted ZERO.


Vote: Dj

You know these are both good points, but since only one of them can actually post in the thread right now I'm going to have to vote: djthefunkchris in the hopes that we can loosen his lips.

Derek B
02-10-2011, 09:46 AM
So blue gets replaced. He WAS active in the thread with 25 posts, yet DJ is still in the game and has posted ZERO.


Vote: Dj

I second and third this motion. DJ not being replaced by now is extracting the urine. He hangs today, Shape follows him.

VOTE djthefunkchris

If by some miracle DJ actually shows up, I won't be satisfied with anything less than a full claim from him. Unfortunately, I won't be around a lot as real life has been doing stuff today, but someone else kick him for me.

The Rock 13
02-10-2011, 10:08 AM
Silencer can't be town now, surely? What was the advantages of silencing Shape.

Vote: The Shape

Would the hider ability be in the write-ups though?

The Rock 13
02-10-2011, 10:10 AM
On the Dj front though, why the hell would he not post if he was scum? Him being post-less doesn't really suggest he's town or scum. Not being replaced... even if he was scum he'd be replaced? Is there just no people available to replace him?

Arrows
02-10-2011, 10:18 AM
Silencer can't be town now, surely? What was the advantages of silencing Shape.

Vote: The Shape

Would the hider ability be in the write-ups though?

To prove that he was lying?

I'd actually lean more towards the silencer being town due to that call. If Shape was telling the truth, no silence, and the silencer would know he was being truthful.

moon_lit_tears
02-10-2011, 10:26 AM
Silencer can't be town now, surely? What was the advantages of silencing Shape.

Vote: The Shape

Would the hider ability be in the write-ups though?

To prove that he was lying?

I'd actually lean more towards the silencer being town due to that call. If Shape was telling the truth, no silence, and the silencer would know he was being truthful.

2 Town silencers?

I think the one makin people into statues is town. I have an idea of the role too. Not sure about the other.

bak42
02-10-2011, 10:44 AM
2 Town silencers?

I think the one makin people into statues is town. I have an idea of the role too. Not sure about the other.Considering the statue guy was

Dragonmack is dead. He was Vaati, Axis of Eviltown Aligned Stoner

I'm 100% certain of it.

JackalBane
02-10-2011, 10:44 AM
I'm more concerned with dj not being replaced than Shape not being able to say he lied about being a hider (or only told a half-truth about it).

Vote: djthefunkchris

moon_lit_tears
02-10-2011, 10:47 AM
Considering the statue guy was



I'm 100% certain of it.

Yeah I'm still an idiot. Just checking. :p

Yeah that's who I had it down in my notes for, just haven't updated them yet.

So I'm thinking the other isn't a town silencer at all, but

Silencer can't be town now, surely? What was the advantages of silencing Shape.

Vote: The Shape

Would the hider ability be in the write-ups though?

This statement concerns me....

If the silencer isn't town, why vote for Shape? :confused:

d_w_w
02-10-2011, 10:59 AM
To prove that he was lying?

I'd actually lean more towards the silencer being town due to that call. If Shape was telling the truth, no silence, and the silencer would know he was being truthful.

/nod

Thoughts on DJ?

moon_lit_tears
02-10-2011, 11:01 AM
Two town silencers?

WTF?

d_w_w
02-10-2011, 11:02 AM
I think, honestly, that I'd be okay lynching either Shape or DJ as of right now.

Struggling to think of why DJ would not be posting... and struggling to make sense of how replacements are being handled in the game.