The Official Hollywood Horror Mafia Game Thread

[JackalBane]

No problem, just wanted to make sure you were considering all the angles. Well, at least that one for now.



I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by making this more obvious.
Uh, letting some people know who I am without outright claiming. And people who don't know can go through twenty loops if they must to figure it out, but for those who have an idea - why not? What, am I supposed to dance around it so that no one can figure it out?

[blackphoenix]

Yeah, I have no idea why I chose this really obscure reference, but it definitely is right there. And, from what that episode was like, he had to be drunk to be able to play at all.

Well my problem I have a list of five possible themes and I can't narrow it down. Sigh.

You are a mystery to me dear JB.

[JackalBane]

Well my problem I have a list of five possible themes and I can't narrow it down. Sigh.

You are a mystery to me dear JB.
Indeed. *bows*

[Slim Jim]

Uh, letting some people know who I am without outright claiming.

Which is what I did, prompting you to call me "vague". Double standards, much? :p

[gonvick]

Uh, letting some people know who I am without outright claiming. And people who don't know can go through twenty loops if they must to figure it out, but for those who have an idea - why not? What, am I supposed to dance around it so that no one can figure it out?

No, that's fine. I just thought townies should already know what they need to about you. Thus making it more obvious might just be helping the wrong people. But they might have already figured it out as well, in which case it really doesn't matter. I didn't mean for that to sound as critical as it probably did.

[cyberkitten01]

I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by making this more obvious.

It's ok, I have absolutely no clue who he is

[blackphoenix]

oooh lots of people in da thread

[Crychon]

Just thought I'd point out that this says foolinc has 9 votes, but only 8 names are listed.

Yeah... It's easier to keep track of things when I have the spreadsheet...

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 9 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, trypio, The Aussie, gonvick, JackalBane, BlueStar, cyberkitten01)
foolinc: 6 (The Shape, d_w_w, Astil, ford, Glotnot, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 1 (praguepride)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Let me know if that's right.

[JackalBane]

So that's 5-ish to lynch. Then night happens and, fingers crossed, we get answers.

[cyberkitten01]

And I'm targeting foolinc in the Night, right?

[JackalBane]

And I'm targeting foolinc in the Night, right?
Right. :)

[blackphoenix]

/nod

[gonvick]

Yeah, I have no idea why I chose this really obscure reference, but it definitely is right there. And, from what that episode was like, he had to be drunk to be able to play at all.

Incidently, it did take me a while to get figure out the connection between that and who I had figured you are.

Yeah... It's easier to keep track of things when I have the spreadsheet...

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 9 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, trypio, The Aussie, gonvick, JackalBane, BlueStar, cyberkitten01)
foolinc: 6 (The Shape, d_w_w, Astil, ford, Glotnot, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 1 (praguepride)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Let me know if that's right.

Yeah, I can imagine. You, um, have me listed twice as voting for Shape.

[blackphoenix]

jberg should target CK
Ford should imprision slimjim
D_W_W investigate wallbanger (I think we really need to know what's up with him..)

[trypio]

Incidently, it did take me a while to get figure out the connection between that and who I had figured you are.



Yeah, I can imagine. You, um, have me listed twice as voting for Shape.
Perhaps you have double votes. :cool:

[Glotnot]

Change Vote: The Shape

I said earlier that I found him a bit questionable, so if we're going to do this, I'll go for it.

[jbergey_2005]

I am perfectly fine with the idea that a few of you helped design for the night phase.

Vote: The Shape

[d_w_w]

jberg should target CK
Ford should imprision slimjim
D_W_W investigate wallbanger (I think we really need to know what's up with him..)

And CK should target foolinc.

And yeah, I'll take a look at wallbanger. It's a tough situation though, as I'm likely to be offed without protection, but there are other townies that need protection.

Anyhow:
Change Vote: The Shape

I'll only be here for 40 minutes or so, then off for several hours. I don't want to say more than I have to, but... be aware of the vote total here, it may not be what it seems.

[Crychon]

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 10 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, trypio, The Aussie, JackalBane, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Glotnot, jbergey_2005)
foolinc: 5 (The Shape, d_w_w, Astil, ford, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 1 (praguepride)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

[gonvick]

jberg should target CK
Ford should imprision slimjim
D_W_W investigate wallbanger (I think we really need to know what's up with him..)

I would suggest imprisoning Wallbanger instead of Slim. Wallbanger is more of a mystery and wasn't forthcoming when he had the chance. Slim could be investigated if there's still concern about him.

[d_w_w]

I would suggest imprisoning Wallbanger instead of Slim. Wallbanger is more of a mystery and wasn't forthcoming when he had the chance. Slim could be investigated if there's still concern about him.

That's true. Basically, I'll investigate whichever is not imprisoned.

[blackphoenix]

I am perfectly fine with the idea that a few of you helped design for the night phase.

Vote: The Shape

I think this night phase is going to be very interesting.

Obviously the scum is going to want to strike back.

Out of the six we have left on the list
ford - should be confirmed by imprisioning slimjim
slimjim - should be confirmed by being imprisioned by ford
foolinc - proven unkillable
CK - Proven with attempted kill on foolinc
shape - lynched
wallbanger - investigated by D_w_w

bonus round - jberg protects CK

If Sylar doesn't kill tonight slimjim will be our suspect

The only catch 22 that I see here is if foolinc has picked up that ability by stealing it from someone else, if Sylar does kill I imagine that it would be foolinc as the prime suspect.

Don't mind me, I'm just getting all my thoughts out as I hope the protectors will save D_W_W and praguepride at the moment and I see myself as a target due to my vocal and aggressive scum hunt.

[blackphoenix]

I would suggest imprisoning Wallbanger instead of Slim. Wallbanger is more of a mystery and wasn't forthcoming when he had the chance. Slim could be investigated if there's still concern about him.

That's true. Basically, I'll investigate whichever is not imprisoned.

Good way of looking at it.

[blackphoenix]

Off to bed check in a few hours

[Glotnot]

If Sylar doesn't kill tonight slimjim will be our suspect


Wrong way of looking at it, tbh.

If Sylar doesn't kill tonight, then it can't be Slim Jim.

[The Shape]

I find it funny that I'm being lynched but you're still coming up with 101 theories as to who sylar actually is, it pretty much shows you know I'm telling the truth xD

-WHOOPS, I posted. nn folks.

[JackalBane]

I find it funny that I'm being lynched but you're still coming up with 101 theories as to who sylar actually is, it pretty much shows you know I'm telling the truth xD

-WHOOPS, I posted. nn folks.
Pretty sure the theories are just in case you aren't Sylar. At this point, all six of you have a pretty equal shot at being Sylar so there's no reason to rule anyone out. That includes you. ;)

[Destiny]

Pretty sure the theories are just in case you aren't Sylar. At this point, all six of you have a pretty equal shot at being Sylar so there's no reason to rule anyone out. That includes you. ;)

For what it's worth, I doubt he's Sylar. His claim seemed so obscure to me I doubt he was lying.

[praguepride]

d_w_w - has role investigating ability
ford - "confirmed" (in that no one has said otherwise) jailer
blackphoenix - claimed and vouched for by UT
foolinc - claimed John McClane from Die Hard
Undertaker666 - confirmed Smoochie, dancer extrodinaire
Sprinklefurball - a lynched Leon
trypio- several people have vouched for, so either scum or investigated townie
Wallbanger - claimed that his new character isn't as cool as Hartigan (his old character was killed by scum)
The Shape - claimed Danny from Unleashed
BlueStar - vouched for by d_w_w and glotnot
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK ability


updated list... I think we might want to focus more on the two who haven't claimed. Because if shape really is danny, he might be useful. So why don't we imprison Shape/Danny, lynch SlimJim who hasn't claimed or proven useful yet and do the rest with the rest

[praguepride]

d_w_w - has role investigating ability
ford - "confirmed" (in that no one has said otherwise) jailer
blackphoenix - claimed and vouched for by UT
foolinc - claimed John McClane from Die Hard
Undertaker666 - confirmed Smoochie, dancer extrodinaire
Sprinklefurball - a lynched Leon
trypio- several people have vouched for, so either scum or investigated townie
Wallbanger - claimed that his new character isn't as cool as Hartigan (his old character was killed by scum)
The Shape - claimed Danny from Unleashed
BlueStar - vouched for by d_w_w and glotnot
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK ability
Slim Jim - no claim


updated updated list... for some reason Slim wasn't on the original update list...

[praguepride]

Honestly, as weird as it is, I'm getting non-lying vibes from The Shape. As said before, that is such a weird role to claim, and the role mechanics make perfect sense... and no other Jet Li character has come forth, and Jet Li is almost always a protaganist, so they'd probably be townie and would want to expose that.

The two Bruce Willis characters would me more suspicious then the one Jet Li claim, plus who knows, maybe Crychon enjoyed Unleashed, I know I did and it wasn't really that obscure of a movie. It had Morgan Freeman in it...

[praguepride]

So in conclusion, I do not agree with the lynching of the Shape, I think we should just imprison him and lynch Slim or WB.

[JackalBane]

d_w_w - has role investigating ability
ford - "confirmed" (in that no one has said otherwise) jailer
blackphoenix - claimed and vouched for by UT
foolinc - claimed John McClane from Die Hard
Undertaker666 - confirmed Smoochie, dancer extrodinaire
Sprinklefurball - a lynched Leon
trypio- several people have vouched for, so either scum or investigated townie
Wallbanger - claimed that his new character isn't as cool as Hartigan (his old character was killed by scum)
The Shape - claimed Danny from Unleashed
BlueStar - vouched for by d_w_w and glotnot
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK ability


updated list... I think we might want to focus more on the two who haven't claimed. Because if shape really is danny, he might be useful. So why don't we imprison Shape/Danny, lynch SlimJim who hasn't claimed or proven useful yet and do the rest with the rest
Just because they claim it doesn't make it true, as proven with the lynch of Shadowed. He claimed John Nada - a pretty good roleclaim, I think - and turned out to be scum. Shape could be doing the same thing to us.

[praguepride]

Wiki on Unleashed

In the North America, this movie was released by Rogue Pictures(which was the division of Focus Features). In its opening weekend in North America, the film grossed a respectable $10,900,901 ($5,570 per screen). Finally, the film's total gross wound up at $24.5 million in the North America;[1] this box office result surpassed Rogue Pictures's expectations ($18 million gross at United States box office).[2]

This movie went on grossing $25 million outside the U.S.[1]

$50 mil gross does not equate to an obscure film...

[Glotnot]

I didn't vouch for Bluestar, I vouched for Trypio.

[praguepride]

d_w_w - has role investigating ability
ford - "confirmed" (in that no one has said otherwise) jailer
blackphoenix - claimed and vouched for by UT
foolinc - claimed John McClane from Die Hard
Undertaker666 - confirmed Smoochie, dancer extrodinaire
Sprinklefurball - a lynched Leon
trypio- vouched for by glotnot
Wallbanger - claimed that his new character isn't as cool as Hartigan (his old character was killed by scum)
The Shape - claimed Danny from Unleashed
BlueStar - vouched for by d_w_w
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK ability
Slim Jim - no claim


updated updated list... for some reason Slim wasn't on the original update list...

[Destiny]

d_w_w - has role investigating ability
ford - "confirmed" (in that no one has said otherwise) jailer
blackphoenix - claimed and vouched for by UT
foolinc - claimed John McClane from Die Hard
Undertaker666 - confirmed Smoochie, dancer extrodinaire
Sprinklefurball - a lynched Leon
trypio- vouched for by glotnot
Wallbanger - claimed that his new character isn't as cool as Hartigan (his old character was killed by scum)
The Shape - claimed Danny from Unleashed
BlueStar - vouched for by d_w_w
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK ability
Slim Jim - no claim


updated updated list... for some reason Slim wasn't on the original update list...

Slim looks like the best target in my opinion. If Crychon was a fan of that film, there's no saying he couldn't have made a role from it.

[Slim Jim]

I haven't claimed, no, but I've left enough clues for people to figure out who I am. And gonvick has already said he thinks he has figured it out and doesn't think I should be lynched... and since the channel selection has been narrowed down to ITV2, 3 and 4 and More4, some of the UK players should have figured it out too, since I also said I'm sure you all would have heard of my character.

I'm busy at the moment but I'll keep checking in every now and then to see what's going on for the next hour and a bit but then I'm going out and won't be back until about 11PM BST.

[The Shape]

slim did your show have a different version of some sort? xD

[Slim Jim]

Mmhm. Two in fact; go research that with what you have in mind.

[gonvick]

Honestly, as weird as it is, I'm getting non-lying vibes from The Shape. As said before, that is such a weird role to claim, and the role mechanics make perfect sense... and no other Jet Li character has come forth, and Jet Li is almost always a protaganist, so they'd probably be townie and would want to expose that.

The two Bruce Willis characters would me more suspicious then the one Jet Li claim, plus who knows, maybe Crychon enjoyed Unleashed, I know I did and it wasn't really that obscure of a movie. It had Morgan Freeman in it...

How can the mechanics of the role make perfect sense when Shape himself says he doesn't actually know what they are?

It could be he's telling the truth. The fact that we're still working out the contingency plans demonstrates that we're not sure he's lying, but that's true of everyone else on the list too. It's just when lined up against all the other claims, including Slim's, I think his is the weakest. And with similar odds of a mis-lynch I'd rather risk a mystery role than one of the others. But that's me.

[Crychon]

Alright, well, I'm going to be heading to the movies, and out for a bit after that, so I won't be around until a little after 9PM EST, I believe.

Again, here is the most recent vote count:

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 10 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, trypio, The Aussie, JackalBane, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Glotnot, jbergey_2005)
foolinc: 5 (The Shape, d_w_w, Astil, ford, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 1 (praguepride)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

[The Shape]

How can the mechanics of the role make perfect sense when Shape himself says he doesn't actually know what they are?

It could be he's telling the truth. The fact that we're still working out the contingency plans demonstrates that we're not sure he's lying, but that's true of everyone else on the list too. It's just when lined up against all the other claims, including Slim's, I think his is the weakest. And with similar odds of a mis-lynch I'd rather risk a mystery role than one of the others. But that's me.

you believe there's two bruce willis characters? You believe someone who is bulletproof said nothing all game but was able to specifically site a minute moment during day two when someone hinted at a particular character being in nobody else had picked up on? You believe an "action hero" has a passive ability?

Mmhm. Two in fact; go research that with what you have in mind.

Nah just checked and it doesn't add up. I was thinking the office but saw there's 7 versions and the US character's name is different.

[Slim Jim]

There are seven versions of The Office? :eek: Other than The Office, The Office: An American Workplace and The Accountants [an NBC spin-off], what others are there?

And yeah, that was basically an admission of being from the American version of The Office... wouldn't have done it if I hadn't messed up on that last hint to Shape... *sigh*

[The Shape]

I just looked at Wiki and I was including french versions and the like :cool:

So what you're david brent? I haven't heard of any of the US characters I don't think..

[i effin rule]

you believe there's two bruce willis characters?

Why not? Why wouldn't/couldn't there be 2 Bruce Willis characters? Especially when there are already by my count 2 other films that feature Bruce Willis in this game, not counting Sin City. It may not be the case, but to assume its the case with no valid reasoning is just silly. This is a game based on characters, actors really don't mean much.

[The Shape]

It may not be the case, but to assume its the case with no valid reasoning is just silly. This is a game based on characters, actors really don't mean much.

Yet we have a guy who CLAIMED an actor basically being ignored this phase lol.

[Astil]

Change Vote: The Shape

Hmm, things seem to be working out well.

[i effin rule]

Yet we have a guy who CLAIMED an actor basically being ignored this phase lol.

I still think he's guilty as sin, but others want to test him. However if/when jberg turns up scum I'm sure it will be noted who the ones who delayed his death were.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I'm not lynching The Shape. This is silly... I believe him.

To me, everything he's saying makes sense, and his claim is WAAAAAY to bizarre to be false.

And, I don't know if this is very fair to bring up, but I had a conversation with Crychon before this game started and he made a reference to Unleashed out of the blue. That makes me believe Crychon is a fan of it, as prior to him making the reference, I'd only seen trailers during RAW a few years back and whatever.

Had I been on when lynch-a-polooza started I'd have shared this earlier, but alas...

If we'd had seen any animalistic attacks, I'd have reason to believe he's evil, but I haven't, so no vote from me.

If he's scum, I accept the consequences of my actions.

[praguepride]

There are seven versions of The Office? :eek: Other than The Office, The Office: An American Workplace and The Accountants [an NBC spin-off], what others are there?

And yeah, that was basically an admission of being from the American version of The Office... wouldn't have done it if I hadn't messed up on that last hint to Shape... *sigh*

Wait, so you are from the office? The American Office?

I cry foul, this guys full of it. I bet he actually didn't even watch the American season 4 finale!

ChangeVote: Slim Jim

[mjdgoldeneye]

Wait, so you are from the office? The American Office?

I cry foul, this guys full of it. I bet he actually didn't even watch the American season 4 finale!

ChangeVote: Slim Jim

We know without a shadow of a doubt that at least Dwight, from the American Office, is in this game.

:rolleyes:

praguepride, what did you claim?

[Astil]

Ok, so Shape is from Unleashed. He's the "Domesticated Dog" that means he still has his collar on. However, in the movie, whenever he has that collar on, he's working for the bad guys.

Who else was unwittingly working for the bad guys?

Why, Derrick Zoolander.

[praguepride]

I can't get the exact quotes, but it goes something like this:

Slim Jim: I watched the season finale of the show that I'm on

Me: Oh, did it include a ferris wheel (I literally had just gotten up from watching the season finale and one of the parts had a huge ferris wheel in the Dunder Mifflen parking lot. It wasn't the focus of the show, but it wasn't exactly subtle so you couldn't miss it if you watched it.

Slim Jim: No...no ferris wheel.

then awhile later

Slim Jim: There are two different versions of the show I'm on

Someone else: Well, it can't be the office, cuz there's like 7 different versions of that

Slim Jim: Oh, wait, I mean yeah, I'm from the office. I didn't know there were other versions...


does any of that strike anyone else as being odd?

[praguepride]

Ok, so Shape is from Unleashed. He's the "Domesticated Dog" that means he still has his collar on. However, in the movie, whenever he has that collar on, he's working for the bad guys.

Who else was unwittingly working for the bad guys?

Why, Derrick Zoolander.

This isn't a list of who we think is scum or not, that's a whole nother list. This is just a list to try and get Sylar out of the way before he gets really powerful.

[mjdgoldeneye]

does any of that strike anyone else as being odd?

Not me... I only knew of 2 versions myself and I don't think the ferris wheel is something everyone is required to remember...

[Astil]

This isn't a list of who we think is scum or not, that's a whole nother list. This is just a list to try and get Sylar out of the way before he gets really powerful.

One in the hand...

[mjdgoldeneye]

One in the hand...

Would you like to keep that hand attached to your arm? If so, we should get Sylar...

[i effin rule]

This isn't a list of who we think is scum or not, that's a whole nother list. This is just a list to try and get Sylar out of the way before he gets really powerful.

Wouldn't it be beneficial if we could narrow down that list by killing off scum instead of townies though? For this big plan to work we have to lynching SOMEONE.

Ever since last day phase everyone has been putting out scenarios as to why everyone on this list is or isn't Sylar and we've backed ourselves into a corner. We're now divided with people who think we should lynch one guy and people who think we should lynch someone else. We'll be lucky to get a lynch in at all if this keeps up.

Let us also not forget that while Sylar is bad and dangerous, we as a town have to eliminate ALL scum to win. We keep hunting one guy and we're going to end up screwing ourselves letting the other mafia(s) run free.

[Astil]

Would you like to keep that hand attached to your arm? If so, we should get Sylar...

You have definitive proof that ANYONE here is sylar?

[Glotnot]

Of course. He was in the write-up. :)

[praguepride]

Wouldn't it be beneficial if we could narrow down that list by killing off scum instead of townies though? For this big plan to work we have to lynching SOMEONE.

Ever since last day phase everyone has been putting out scenarios as to why everyone on this list is or isn't Sylar and we've backed ourselves into a corner. We're now divided with people who think we should lynch one guy and people who think we should lynch someone else. We'll be lucky to get a lynch in at all if this keeps up.

Let us also not forget that while Sylar is bad and dangerous, we as a town have to eliminate ALL scum to win. We keep hunting one guy and we're going to end up screwing ourselves letting the other mafia(s) run free.

So who on the list is scum?

[Astil]

Of course. He was in the write-up. :)

No I mean who is Sylar? If not, why not go after some other scum?

[i effin rule]

So who on the list is scum?

If I could say for sure, I would. I don't trust Shape though. I guarantee though that there is at least one (if not 2) mafia members on that list in addition to Sylar.

So who on the list is Sylar?


Also. Just wondering, have both you and your partner made hints at your characters/shows?

[The Shape]

Ok, so Shape is from Unleashed. He's the "Domesticated Dog" that means he still has his collar on. However, in the movie, whenever he has that collar on, he's working for the bad guys.

Who else was unwittingly working for the bad guys?

Why, Derrick Zoolander.

lol I can't even counteract that because you clearly know more about it than I do, PM has no mention of collars etc I just assume domesticated shows that his killing days are in the past and now i'm like roaming the world on my own hence how I ended up here.

If you don't think i'm sylar and still want to lynch me then I'm confused because the only reason jbergy wasn't lynched yesterday is "yeah we need to get sylar" on everyone's part lol.

[Astil]

lol I can't even counteract that because you clearly know more about it than I do, PM has no mention of collars etc I just assume domesticated shows that his killing days are in the past and now i'm like roaming the world on my own hence how I ended up here.

If you don't think i'm sylar and still want to lynch me then I'm confused because the only reason jbergy wasn't lynched yesterday is "yeah we need to get sylar" on everyone's part lol.

wrong. Domesticated means he was "trained". He was trained to kill.

I'd rather get jberg myself but you have a convinient 10 votes already on you ( or something)

What I bolded, in the movie, even at the end he never could have made it on his own.

I get the feeling this is a false claim.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Domesticated means he's a house dog.

You took a word, found another word that is kind of a synonym, and then changed it's meaning to suggest he's a killer.

Has he killed? No...

I'm not voting!

[Astil]

Domesticated means he's a house dog.

You took a word, found another word that is kind of a synonym, and then changed it's meaning to suggest he's a killer.

Has he killed? No...

I'm not voting!

I've seen the movie 4 times.

[Astil]

mjd, why are you protecting him? If he's online let him answer my questions.

[The Shape]

Well I don't want to quote exactly but my PM does have a phrase that suggests perfectly that I struggle to "make it on my own" as you would say. And because of this I end up at the convention. But I have been given the chance to "make it on my own" because presumably at the end of the film I got away from the guy who had me kill for him. And that's about as well as I can paraphrase it.

But ah well, if I'm to be lynched then fine. I've tried to help the town and don't think I've played a bad game, it's just the role is one I'm not sure at all how is best to play so my strategy's been fairly convulted. Jbergy is scum, that's obvious. If we trust the list as at this stage we must then foolinc is Sylar. I have no more than that, I haven't been through in enough depth nor had any tools through which to gain information. So use what you learn from this wisely, and good luck for the rest of the game. But remember, there's threats out there other than this alleged serial killer, and it's been worrying to see them completely ignored for two days straight. Adios.

[Astil]

Allow me to be more clear. In the movie Danny is trained to do dirty work for a bad guy, against his will. We have seen this "unwilling bad guy" before, in Derrick Zoolander.

Shape, may I see your full Role Title again?

[The Shape]

Danny, Convention Aligned Domesticated Dog

And now I'm off for a bit, have fun folks xD

[Astil]

Well I don't want to quote exactly but my PM does have a phrase that suggests perfectly that I struggle to "make it on my own" as you would say. And because of this I end up at the convention. But I have been given the chance to "make it on my own" because presumably at the end of the film I got away from the guy who had me kill for him. And that's about as well as I can paraphrase it.

But ah well, if I'm to be lynched then fine. I've tried to help the town and don't think I've played a bad game, it's just the role is one I'm not sure at all how is best to play so my strategy's been fairly convulted. Jbergy is scum, that's obvious. If we trust the list as at this stage we must then foolinc is Sylar. I have no more than that, I haven't been through in enough depth nor had any tools through which to gain information. So use what you learn from this wisely, and good luck for the rest of the game. But remember, there's threats out there other than this alleged serial killer, and it's been worrying to see them completely ignored for two days straight. Adios.

Yes, I'm almost convinced JB is scum. I'm assuming your role would be a big one to lose, and since your about to be lynched anyway, why don't you tell us? I want to see if it fits with the chari.

[Astil]

Danny, Convention Aligned Domesticated Dog

And now I'm off for a bit, have fun folks xD

To me if it was a good guy Danny there'd be an "Unleashed" in front of Domesticated Dog. This role title contradicts the plot of the movie, as if it is post movie, Danny would not still be considered a Domesticated Dog.

[JackalBane]

If we all don't agree on a decision soon, this phase that we worked hard to get to will result in a no lynch.

[Astil]

What's the latest vote count?

[i effin rule]

If we all don't agree on a decision soon, this phase that we worked hard to get to will result in a no lynch.

Do you know who praguepride claimed?

[Astil]

Do you know who praguepride claimed?

Is this a question to the masses or strictly to him?

[i effin rule]

Is this a question to the masses or strictly to him?

Specifically him for now, I trust him.

[Astil]

Specifically him for now, I trust him.

/nod

[BlueStar]

Just catching up....one thing I agree with Shape, next target should be mr. Actor claim.

Still, Shape...indy, SK, not a lot of friends out there...a no-lynch seems a no-no at this point.

Still online for 2 hours and keeping the vote where it is for now.

[foolinc]

wrong. Domesticated means he was "trained". He was trained to kill.

I'd rather get jberg myself but you have a convinient 10 votes already on you ( or something)

What I bolded, in the movie, even at the end he never could have made it on his own.

I get the feeling this is a false claim.

After sleeping for 12 hours (YAY!). I think that Danny isn't town. If Derek Zoolander was scum and Danny is still "Domesticated," then it means he's still under the control of someone. So, he's following orders and would probably be scum even if he is telling the truth. Of course he could also be lying.

Vote: The Shape

Well I don't want to quote exactly but my PM does have a phrase that suggests perfectly that I struggle to "make it on my own" as you would say. And because of this I end up at the convention. But I have been given the chance to "make it on my own" because presumably at the end of the film I got away from the guy who had me kill for him. And that's about as well as I can paraphrase it.

But ah well, if I'm to be lynched then fine. I've tried to help the town and don't think I've played a bad game, it's just the role is one I'm not sure at all how is best to play so my strategy's been fairly convulted. Jbergy is scum, that's obvious. If we trust the list as at this stage we must then foolinc is Sylar. I have no more than that, I haven't been through in enough depth nor had any tools through which to gain information. So use what you learn from this wisely, and good luck for the rest of the game. But remember, there's threats out there other than this alleged serial killer, and it's been worrying to see them completely ignored for two days straight. Adios.

I'm going to ignore the fact that there are other options that could also be Sylar still on the list. So mind telling me why, if I was Sylar, that I would hint in my first two posts (and another post a bit later) to being John McClane, a major character in a major movie that would likely be in this game. No, if I was scum in any shape, I would have done exactly what I did in Marvel and would have waited to even hint at anything till I had to (damn you Dare Devil and Spiderman! :D) and then claim someone that I think I could get away with claiming.

Here are my posts for anyone who wants to check up on my story:

Sure. I find your post is a tad bit scummy considering it's been 3 hours since the game has started.

You know just once, I'd like a regular, normal mafia game. A little scum group... a fn' serial killer... a little cop. But, no. I gotta crawl around in this hollywood horror game.

This is an augmented post from John's quote in Die Hard 2:

John (crawling through a ventilation system): Just once, I'd like a regular, normal Christmas. A little eggnog... a fn' Christmas tree... a little turkey. But, no. I gotta crawl around in this mfn' tin can.

Well then Yippee-ki-yay, [Peter Valentine]!

This one was REALLY easy. It's from Die Hard One:

Hans Gruber: Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mister Cowboy?
John: Yippee-ki-yay, mfer!

And the one a bit later:
Sorry about that. I was just caught up watching Die Hard again and wasn't totally thinking straight.

"Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs..."

That quote gets me every time! :D

Self explanatory.

[cyberkitten01]

So who am I going after in the Night phase now..?

[JackalBane]

Do you know who praguepride claimed?
I think so. He had a few direct hints while I was detained, if I remember correctly. At the very least I know what show he's on I think.

[JackalBane]

So who am I going after in the Night phase now..?
foolinc. I think Shape's getting lynched today, but you never know what's going to happen. Shape still needs 4 more votes, I believe.

[masterded]

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 13 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, trypio, The Aussie, JackalBane, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Glotnot, jbergey_2005, d_w_w, Astil, foolinc)
foolinc: 4 (The Shape, ford, The Rock 13)
Slim Jim: 1 (praguepride)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.


Should be right (for some reason C never added d_w_w's vote even though he said change vote and it was bold)

Should I hammer it or do we want to talk some more? (I am heading to work now so you have about an hour before I can do anything)

[foolinc]

We have till 11:30 PM so I'd wait.

[JackalBane]

We have till 11:30 PM so I'd wait.
What exactly are we waiting for?

Not saying that we shouldn't, but is there something in particular we need to use the rest of the day phase for?

[i effin rule]

Crychon won't be on until after 9 EST so there isn't really any point in ending it early right now.

[JackalBane]

Crychon won't be on until after 9 EST so there isn't really any point in ending it early right now.
/nod

[JackalBane]

By the way, IER, did you get the answer you were looking for?

[i effin rule]

By the way, IER, did you get the answer you were looking for?

Wasn't the one I was looking for I don't think, but I got it.

[jbergey_2005]

It strikes me as being abnormally strange that The Shape, Astil and BlueStar that they would prefer to go after people that can prove themselves rather than let them use their ability to prove myself. I was certain a few people that actually think this through came up with a plan on how certain people could prove themselves and these 3 would prefer to ignore this. Just a thought.

More and more links are coming out this stage.

[JackalBane]

It strikes me as being abnormally strange that The Shape, Astil and BlueStar that they would prefer to go after people that can prove themselves rather than let them use their ability to prove myself. I was certain a few people that actually think this through came up with a plan on how certain people could prove themselves and these 3 would prefer to ignore this. Just a thought.

More and more links are coming out this stage.
Hmm..

[BlueStar]

How exactly do I fit into that picture, I wonder?

Because I find your claim to be strange?

[jbergey_2005]

How exactly do I fit into that picture, I wonder?

Because I find your claim to be strange?

Nope because it was talked about earlier that my "strange" role claim can be used this night phase to prove if I am being truthful and you seem to have either missed that or ignored that as you continue to want to throw me under the bus.

[BlueStar]

I'm not throwing you under the bus, I'm saying you need to come up with something that'll clear you.

[Astil]

Nope because it was talked about earlier that my "strange" role claim can be used this night phase to prove if I am being truthful and you seem to have either missed that or ignored that as you continue to want to throw me under the bus.

So your insinuating me ...

You mine as well have claimed Batman in the Marvel game, guy, that's why I want you lynched.

To work. Be around tomm.

[jbergey_2005]

Just catching up....one thing I agree with Shape, next target should be mr. Actor claim.

Still, Shape...indy, SK, not a lot of friends out there...a no-lynch seems a no-no at this point.

Still online for 2 hours and keeping the vote where it is for now.

So your insinuating me ...

You mine as well have claimed Batman in the Marvel game, guy, that's why I want you lynched.

To work. Be around tomm.

Well I AM Bruce Campbell. I am claiming EXACTLY who I am. I am sorry you have such a hard time believing it. Tonight I can prove what I can do. I probably still wont be able to convice you non believers that I am really him but why would I lie about my character and have a protection ability if I was scum?

[i effin rule]

There are scum protectors too.

[jbergey_2005]

There are scum protectors too.

usually mafia aligned. It would be a hard argument to say I am mafia aligned considering I put out the first vote on a mafia aligned member.

[i effin rule]

usually mafia aligned. It would be a hard argument to say I am mafia aligned considering I put out the first vote on a mafia aligned member.

Except for the fact there very well could be 2 mafia groups.

[jbergey_2005]

Except for the fact there very well could be 2 mafia groups.

Maybe Im not sure at this point, are you?

[i effin rule]

Maybe Im not sure at this point, are you?

With a game this size, I do believe there is another scum group. Be it cult or what have you. Bruce Campbell have a very cult following, doesn't he?

[BlueStar]

Maybe we'll figure that one out later during this day OR night...

[jbergey_2005]

With a game this size, I do believe there is another scum group. Be it cult or what have you. Bruce Campbell have a very cult following, doesn't he?

Not sure if he does or not, I would guess so since he seems fairly popular. He is known for his clever one liners is what my PM says. If you really want to spin it that way I guess any of these characters could have cult following.

[i effin rule]

Sure any character could have a cult following, but you're not a character remember?

[RKO_HBK]

Just to say I won't be on GDS for about a week now (until the 5th/6th August), thought it best to explain my absence before people think something of my inactivity.

[BlueStar]

Sure any character could have a cult following, but you're not a character remember?

Touché.

[jbergey_2005]

Sure any character could have a cult following, but you're not a character remember?

Fair enough

[jbergey_2005]

Atleast you are coming up with something logical. I can handle that much more than getting lynched for the name I was given.

[JackalBane]

Atleast you are coming up with something logical. I can handle that much more than getting lynched for the name I was given.
Why do you believe that Crychon chose to use one actor while everybody else gets a character?

[jbergey_2005]

Why do you believe that Crychon chose to use one actor while everybody else gets a character?

A great question and one I wish I had an answer for. MJD said in a post earlier that he was one of Crychons favorites. That may have something to do with it. I didnt even know who he was until I was sent youtube footage of him.

[The Shape]

lol @ some of this, we really are going nowhere.

Yes, I'm almost convinced JB is scum. I'm assuming your role would be a big one to lose, and since your about to be lynched anyway, why don't you tell us? I want to see if it fits with the chari.

Tell you what?

To me if it was a good guy Danny there'd be an "Unleashed" in front of Domesticated Dog. This role title contradicts the plot of the movie, as if it is post movie, Danny would not still be considered a Domesticated Dog.

Well I'm sorry but it's "to crychon" and not "to you" that is what matters. I think you don't understand what "domesticated" means in this context, in that basically he's a whole lot peaceful to what he used to be. "Unleashed" is something far more aggressive and pro-active.

Honestly I'm fighting a lost cause here but I want to point out every flaw in the arguments against me before I am lynched so nobody can say I didn't try. Even though it's inevitable.

It strikes me as being abnormally strange that The Shape, Astil and BlueStar that they would prefer to go after people that can prove themselves rather than let them use their ability to prove myself.

Oh please. My ability actually makes sense and can be proved, but that's not enough for the majority, so stop spouting rubbish lol.

[The Shape]

A great question and one I wish I had an answer for. MJD said in a post earlier that he was one of Crychons favorites. That may have something to do with it. I didnt even know who he was until I was sent youtube footage of him.

And he said earlier on that Unleashed seemed to be a movie Crychon liked, has that helped my case? The people who talk sense don't get listened to here I'm afraid ;)

I mean seriously though in your case if he was such a big fan he coulda included one of his characters so that it actually made sense. And gave him an ability that actually made sense. Rather than a ridiculous way of protecting somebody that happens to be one shot and has nothing extra about it and is the only thing his supposed favourite actor can do. Yeah.

[The Shape]

Nobody has anything to say? I get the impression you all know I'm innocent but have convinced yourselves another lynch won't be achieved within the time limit, or something of that nature.

[jbergey_2005]

Nobody has anything to say? I get the impression you all know I'm innocent but have convinced yourselves another lynch won't be achieved within the time limit, or something of that nature.

I dont know what to say. Everyone is so concerned with that list and people seem to be vouching for other people without any confirmation of why they even are. Its possible we could be get took for a long ride. IMO there are people more scummy looking than you but do you think it is possible that anyone would actaually listen to me? Who would you like to go after and how would you like to prove you are telling us the truth?

[ford]

Shape. People are saying the term "domesticated" doesn't mean the normal term you would use it. It means that he's been made into a SLAVE. He's a warrior dog. He's "domesticated" in the fact that he's trained, to answer to one man.

I haven't seen all of Unleashed but I get what it means. He's a killer who doesn't want to kill. Being "unleashed" would free him from those personal restrictions, would mean he wouldn't have to kill who he's being sent to kill. Being "domesticated" means you're still be trained, that you're still "controlled" by an owner.

I dunno exactly what to think. I'm pretty sure you're gallowed though, which will be a shame IF you're telling the truth.

Still, a townie with vig powers could totally disrupt us, should they choose the wrong targets.

[mjdgoldeneye]

The fact of the matter is that The Shape hasn't killed anyone yet, has he?

We'll know instantly if he's against us, and it would make more sense to just watch the write-ups.

As he stands now, I don't see a good player like The Shape claiming such a likely dangerous role when he could easily false claim, and I'm quite sure it's not a false claim to begin with.

This is a bad idea, and I stand by that...

[The Shape]

I dont know what to say. Everyone is so concerned with that list and people seem to be vouching for other people without any confirmation of why they even are. Its possible we could be get took for a long ride. IMO there are people more scummy looking than you but do you think it is possible that anyone would actaually listen to me? Who would you like to go after and how would you like to prove you are telling us the truth?

There was a plan in place before when we were going to lynch foolinc and CK would come for me while you targeted her, ideally validating all three of us.

I've been saying who I'd go for all day long and I still don't buy foolinc's claim, but generally I think we have tunnel vision on this sylar thing and need to approach with a more open mind from now on.

Shape. People are saying the term "domesticated" doesn't mean the normal term you would use it. It means that he's been made into a SLAVE. He's a warrior dog. He's "domesticated" in the fact that he's trained, to answer to one man.

Still, a townie with vig powers could totally disrupt us, should they choose the wrong targets.

1.) It's all about context. Domesticated doesn't mean slave by any stretch of the imagination, it reflects the fact that he's mellowed and is no longer some sort of wild, murderous beast. Like I said, you'll see I guess, lol.

2.) The town as a whole is hardly doing that very well right now.

Off for an hour, if I'm lynched when I get back then fair enough, I guess it's inevitable at this stage.

[d_w_w]

Should be right (for some reason C never added d_w_w's vote even though he said change vote and it was bold)

Should I hammer it or do we want to talk some more? (I am heading to work now so you have about an hour before I can do anything)

Pretty sure I voted at the same time that he posted a vote count, so I'm guessing he just missed it.

Anyhow, since we're so close and have a little time:

Vote: No one

[d_w_w]

Er, I mean

Change vote: No vote

I think that's the right way to do that, at least?

[d_w_w]

The fact of the matter is that The Shape hasn't killed anyone yet, has he?

We'll know instantly if he's against us, and it would make more sense to just watch the write-ups.

As he stands now, I don't see a good player like The Shape claiming such a likely dangerous role when he could easily false claim, and I'm quite sure it's not a false claim to begin with.

This is a bad idea, and I stand by that...

That's fine - I can see your issue here. Who would you prefer to lynch?

[d_w_w]

1.) It's all about context. Domesticated doesn't mean slave by any stretch of the imagination, it reflects the fact that he's mellowed and is no longer some sort of wild, murderous beast. Like I said, you'll see I guess, lol.

2.) The town as a whole is hardly doing that very well right now.

Off for an hour, if I'm lynched when I get back then fair enough, I guess it's inevitable at this stage.

I'm not really interested in getting into the "domesticated" debate, so I'll skp that :D.

I find your claim odd, but not completely unbelievable. And really, if you end up lynched, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out that you were telling the truth. Hence the contingency plans. The issue is though, someone has to be lynched... and well, I'm not super confident about any of our potential Sylar lynches.

Point number 2 though, does strike me as odd. We've successfully lynched 2 scum (Bigjosh and Shadowedflame) in 4 day phases, another 2 scum (Imarevenant and treton) have died at night, and a SK (Comradebot) was killed by Sylar. Now sure, not all of this was directly due to town actions, but I'd say that we're doing pretty good at this point.

When you say, as a whole, that we're not doing very well, what do you mean?

[praguepride]

Why don't we just lynch a suspect? If we waste this day period then UT has a right to be very pissed off to have used his one ability just so that we can dick around and second guess ourselves.


Here is the list, once again. I've reordered it to take certain things into account

First off we have the most likely not Sylar due to role claim or people vouching for them:

Undertaker666 - confirmed Smoochie, dancer extrodinaire
trypio- vouched for by glotnot
BlueStar - vouched for by d_w_w
Sprinklefurball - a lynched Leon


Next up are the probably not Sylar due to various circumstances
d_w_w - has role investigating ability
ford - "confirmed" (in that no one has said otherwise) jailer
blackphoenix - claimed 5th element


Next up we have our final list, these are the people most likely to be Sylar
foolinc - claimed John McClane from Die Hard
Wallbanger - claimed that his new character isn't as cool as Hartigan (his old character was killed by scum)
The Shape - claimed Danny from Unleashed
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK ability
Slim Jim - claimed someone from office, but won't say who


There are 5 of them.
So d_w_w investigates one the next day, ford jails one, UT blocks one, supposedly CK will NK The Shape and be saved by Jberg

That has all of them covered. So let's pick one and get on with it. We should be good and based on the write up if we don't lynch Sylar, we'll block him and based on how he's blocked, we can lynch him tomorrow.

With The Shape and CyberKitten working it out amongst themselves, we're left with

Slim Jim - has alluded to being an Office character, possibly Dwight but again has been very vague

Wallbanger - "on vacation"

foolinc - has claimed John McClane since the start.

If we want to be nice and not lynch Wallbanger while he's on vacation, I'd have to go with Slim Jim. We know Dwight is here, possibly Michael as well but they could both easily be Syndicate (because they're both corporate tools in their own way).

[praguepride]

Sorry, didn't finish the thought.

Claiming from the start, especially a character as likely as John McClane would be very ballsy because given who's already here, it's highly likely that John McClane is included in this list (how can you have a Hollywood Mafia game without a Die Hard reference).


So my gut is going with cyberkitten. (s)he hasn't claimed and only has talked about a vague one shot NK ability, but given the three choices above, my gut is really going for Slim Jim....

[The Shape]

I'm not really interested in getting into the "domesticated" debate, so I'll skp that :D.

I find your claim odd, but not completely unbelievable. And really, if you end up lynched, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out that you were telling the truth. Hence the contingency plans. The issue is though, someone has to be lynched... and well, I'm not super confident about any of our potential Sylar lynches.

Point number 2 though, does strike me as odd. We've successfully lynched 2 scum (Bigjosh and Shadowedflame) in 4 day phases, another 2 scum (Imarevenant and treton) have died at night, and a SK (Comradebot) was killed by Sylar. Now sure, not all of this was directly due to town actions, but I'd say that we're doing pretty good at this point.

When you say, as a whole, that we're not doing very well, what do you mean?

I meant as in the last coupla phases, the "sylar hunt" xD

[praguepride]

I meant as in the last coupla phases, the "sylar hunt" xD

I dunno, narrowing down this many players to just a list of 5 is pretty good, and with contingencies we've got them all pretty well covered.

It's just a matter of who we lynch first to get the ball rolling. It'd be really nice if we got the right person right off the bat though...

[praguepride]

Hmmm... can anyone really confirm that Wallbanger isn't active because he's on vacation. We've been hesitent to lynch him just because he's been away, but he posted two days ago... when was this vacation supposed to start? It could easily be that he's just getting on to PM Crychon his target...

[The Shape]

I dunno, narrowing down this many players to just a list of 5 is pretty good, and with contingencies we've got them all pretty well covered.

It's just a matter of who we lynch first to get the ball rolling. It'd be really nice if we got the right person right off the bat though...

Sprinkle was the first one and was wrong...

[praguepride]

Sprinkle was the first one and was wrong...

In our defense he never really responded to any threats...or anything at all. The guy posted 7 times, he's on the bottom 5 for posts...

[praguepride]

Sprinkle was the first one and was wrong...

Would you rather just lynch some more scum and see what happens on the write up?

[Slim Jim]

Wait, so you are from the office? The American Office?

I cry foul, this guys full of it. I bet he actually didn't even watch the American season 4 finale!

ChangeVote: Slim Jim

You're right, I didn't. I don't think Season Four has reached the UK yet, has it? However, I did watch the Season Three finale, where Jim, Michael and a woman whose name escapes me were all vying for a promotion. Michael puts Dwight in charge, and he interviews some guy about being his second-in-command. Not sure if I've seen the entire episode though because it ended shortly after that and sort of abruptly. For example, there wasn't really any more mention of Jim after seeing him in [I think] New York with the woman, and I didn't see any more of Michael after he left the Scranton office. So yeah, I'm assuming it was a longer episode than normal and was shown in two parts.

I can't get the exact quotes, but it goes something like this:

Slim Jim: I watched the season finale of the show that I'm on

Me: Oh, did it include a ferris wheel (I literally had just gotten up from watching the season finale and one of the parts had a huge ferris wheel in the Dunder Mifflen parking lot. It wasn't the focus of the show, but it wasn't exactly subtle so you couldn't miss it if you watched it.

Slim Jim: No...no ferris wheel.

then awhile later

Slim Jim: There are two different versions of the show I'm on

Someone else: Well, it can't be the office, cuz there's like 7 different versions of that

Slim Jim: Oh, wait, I mean yeah, I'm from the office. I didn't know there were other versions...


does any of that strike anyone else as being odd?

Shape asked are there any other versions of the show, and I thought [correctly] he meant The Office with UK and American versions. Rather than just saying "Mmhm" and leaving it at that, I thought I'd say there are two others [meaning the American version and then the NBC spin-off The Accountants] however he had looked at a different Wiki page that talked about French versions and the like. Also, the entire reason I said I was from The Office was because I had messed up that hint. I hadn't heard about more versions than the three I mentioned [original, USA, spin-off], so the only way to clear it up was to do something I hadn't wanted to do and actually say I was from The Office: An American Workplace.

[cyberkitten01]

So my gut is going with cyberkitten. (s)he hasn't claimed and only has talked about a vague one shot NK ability, but given the three choices above, my gut is really going for Slim Jim....

I did offer to say who I was, but with the wealth of characters available for false claims someone recommended it wouldn't be worth it

Also my "vague one shot NK" isn't vague or a one shot either. My character is a war-bastard in the comic and in the film

[masterded]

Hmmm... can anyone really confirm that Wallbanger isn't active because he's on vacation. We've been hesitent to lynch him just because he's been away, but he posted two days ago... when was this vacation supposed to start? It could easily be that he's just getting on to PM Crychon his target...

He has his laptop so he could have been on anytime. That being said we can't expect him to be on. (SO if we do go down that road we must understand that odds are he won't be able to speak for himself)

[The Shape]

Slim get on MSN so I can send you some ****, I'm doing smackdown's angle atm but have to be up in just over 4 hours xD

[masterded]

I did offer to say who I was, but with the wealth of characters available for false claims someone recommended it wouldn't be worth it

Also my "vague one shot NK" isn't vague or a one shot either. My character is a war-bastard in the comic and in the film

I said it wouldn't make a diffrence (but based on how a few others acted guess I was wrong) and after what you just said you might as well just say it.

[JackalBane]

For the sake of it...

Change Vote: No Vote

Doesn't mean I won't change it back, but this whole mess is so damn confusing and one less vote means we have a little more time to think this over. Personally, I want to get the Shape lynch over and done with so that we can see what he is. Town/Indy/Scum, we don't know, and as far as anyone seems to know Shape's just throwing us all through the loop with a good roleclaim out of the thousands he has at his disposal compared to who he really is.

So, who knows, I may put my vote back on in 10 minutes, but for now it's off.

[masterded]

For the sake of it...

Change Vote: No Vote

Doesn't mean I won't change it back, but this whole mess is so damn confusing and one less vote means we have a little more time to think this over. Personally, I want to get the Shape lynch over and done with so that we can see what he is. Town/Indy/Scum, we don't know, and as far as anyone seems to know Shape's just throwing us all through the loop with a good roleclaim out of the thousands he has at his disposal compared to who he really is.

So, who knows, I may put my vote back on in 10 minutes, but for now it's off.

I too want to get moving on, but I think it was IER who said C isn't going to be on until 9 so we really have no reason to rush.

[gonvick]

you believe there's two bruce willis characters? You believe someone who is bulletproof said nothing all game but was able to specifically site a minute moment during day two when someone hinted at a particular character being in nobody else had picked up on? You believe an "action hero" has a passive ability?

Two Bruce Willis characters? Sure, why not? There's no reason there can't be.

Someone who's bulletproof being quiet? I agree that's a bit suspect, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen a townie play a role like that in that way. And for someone who knows they'll survive a nigkt kill attempt, you weren't exactly playing like Mr. Bulletproof either.

An action hero with a passive ability? A bulletproof action hero makes perfect sense to me. They are notoriously hard to kill. And if someone else was simply bulletproof, I assume they would have stepped forward by now. Where as your best guess as to what your role does, is the same thing as what someone else has claimed to be.

I'm just not seeing where his claim is any more suspect than yours.

[praguepride]

How about this.

Lynch Wallbanger

CK and The Shape work it out amongst themselves, because most likely at least one of them is telling the truth. This also gives Jberg his one shot at clearing his name.

Someone blocks foolinc, someone jails slim jim

And that resolves the 5 most likely suspects on our list. Sorry 'Banger but if someone else is false claming, they're doing a damn good job at it.

[gonvick]

How about this.

Lynch Wallbanger

CK and The Shape work it out amongst themselves, because most likely at least one of them is telling the truth. This also gives Jberg his one shot at clearing his name.

Someone blocks foolinc, someone jails slim jim

And that resolves the 5 most likely suspects on our list. Sorry 'Banger but if someone else is false claming, they're doing a damn good job at it.

I would have been okay with lynching Wallbanger, but I doubt there's enough time left to switch to him at this point.

Do we know that we have a roleblocker?

And I would not be in favor of jailing Slim. If d_w_w, or someone else, wants to investigate him to make sure he's telling the truth, that's fine. But I don't like the idea of locking him up.

[Glotnot]

Well, I could try protecting one of them. We'd get a good, strong read on their character from that, but I also might kill them....So take that into effect, and tell me what you want me to do.

Aside from that, we have a choice:

Lynch Shape, or no lynch. I think we have exactly 4 hours left, and personally I don't think there's enough time to get everyone to switch over to Slim.

[praguepride]

And I would not be in favor of jailing Slim. If d_w_w, or someone else, wants to investigate him to make sure he's telling the truth, that's fine. But I don't like the idea of locking him up.

Why not jail him? If we just investigate Slim and it turns out he's Sylar, then Sylar gets another free kill.

Plus if we block all 5 suspects and Sylar doesn't pop up amongst them, then all those investigators out there can start investigating the rest of the list...

[praguepride]

Lynch Shape, or no lynch. I think we have exactly 4 hours left, and personally I don't think there's enough time to get everyone to switch over to Slim.

I say we switch to Wallbanger, and while you're on, you might as well come with me.

Changevote: Wallbanger 2.0

[praguepride]

Lynch Shape, or no lynch. I think we have exactly 4 hours left, and personally I don't think there's enough time to get everyone to switch over to Slim.

I imagine that quite a few people will sign on before the final cut off, so lets go with it.

[Slim Jim]

Since Shape is going on holiday tomorrow, he'll probably be replaced and we'll have someone new to question about his role then. That might prove useful.

I really don't think Unleashed is Shape's kind of movie, and if he was fake claiming, he'd use something he has at least some knowledge of, rather than something that I just cannot imagine him watching. So for that reason, I'm inclined to believe him... well, at least enough to not lynch him ahead of someone that has given us nothing.

I've not voted during this phase since I hate to throw my vote around, as I prefer to confirm someone as the best choice for the lynch and then go for that person. In this instance, it does seem like Wallbanger is the best choice so...

Vote: Wallbanger

[Glotnot]

Change Vote: Wallbanger

This is going to end in No Lynch.

I think Mr. Undertaker used his ability for nothing. We gained time, but didn't really accomplish anything in that time.

[Slim Jim]

Oh and like gonvick said, probably better not to lock me up but really, if you want to, go ahead. Doesn't overly affect me; just stops me doing anything during the night phase but as you can tell, so far I haven't exactly been game-breaking.

[ford]

I'll try to get a lynch in with ya. Unvote Vote: Wallbanger 2.0

[gonvick]

Why not jail him? If we just investigate Slim and it turns out he's Sylar, then Sylar gets another free kill.

I think he's made a credible claim that makes it unlikely that he's Sylar.

And if we did lynch Wallbanger, lock up Slim, and test Shape, then I don't understand how you plan to block foolinc. To the best of my knowledge, we can't stop all of them from taking action, so I'm most comfortable with trusting Slim to do whatever he does.

[praguepride]

Well, in 10 minutes we've gotten 1/3 of the votes needed. Here's hoping that 10 more people log in and change their votes.

[masterded]

Vote: Wallbanger

For now though I should be on until 12et so I can put my vote on whoever we need to.

[praguepride]

I think he's made a credible claim that makes it unlikely that he's Sylar.

And if we did lynch Wallbanger, lock up Slim, and test Shape, then I don't understand how you plan to block foolinc. To the best of my knowledge, we can't stop all of them from taking action, so I'm most comfortable with trusting Slim to do whatever he does.

I believe we have townie roleblockers still hidden, based on the write ups. While they might not have come out and claimed yet (probably a smart decision considering they've blocked a mafia hit) but we can hope that they will pick up the slack...

[praguepride]

For now though I should be on until 12et so I can put my vote on whoever we need to.

As will I, I'll check back periodically

So 5 down...

[d_w_w]

Change Vote: Wallbanger

This is going to end in No Lynch.

I think Mr. Undertaker used his ability for nothing. We gained time, but didn't really accomplish anything in that time.

Yeah, I don't like the odds of this happening. We really can't afford a no-lynch...

And, for reasons that I can't fully articulate, I don't think Wallbanger will come up as Sylar. He could be scum still, but I'd be surprised if he turns out to be Sylar.

Still, if this is the path we want to go on, then that's fine, I'll put down my vote on him. Not yet though, as I'll be around for a little bit.

[d_w_w]

I believe we have townie roleblockers still hidden, based on the write ups. While they might not have come out and claimed yet (probably a smart decision considering they've blocked a mafia hit) but we can hope that they will pick up the slack...

I was thinking that that was a protector at work. Unless we're thinking of different parts of the writeup.

[d_w_w]

I think he's made a credible claim that makes it unlikely that he's Sylar.

And if we did lynch Wallbanger, lock up Slim, and test Shape, then I don't understand how you plan to block foolinc. To the best of my knowledge, we can't stop all of them from taking action, so I'm most comfortable with trusting Slim to do whatever he does.

I agree with Gonvick though. If we lynch Wallbanger, we should lock up Shape and have CK use her hit on foolinc.

[praguepride]

I was thinking that that was a protector at work. Unless we're thinking of different parts of the writeup.

Wasn't there a random guy going around getting into fights? I figured it was a character from Fight Club based on the write ups...

Cast your vote, you can always log back in at a later time to switch it. At this point I'm very convinced that the Shape is who he says he is, so a no lynch is better then a townie lynch, imo.

[praguepride]

I agree with Gonvick though. If we lynch Wallbanger, we should lock up Shape and have CK use her hit on foolinc.

Fine, we can work those details out later, step one is lynching Wallbanger...

[d_w_w]

Wasn't there a random guy going around getting into fights? I figured it was a character from Fight Club based on the write ups...

Cast your vote, you can always log back in at a later time to switch it. At this point I'm very convinced that the Shape is who he says he is, so a no lynch is better then a townie lynch, imo.

Thing is... I'm not sure that Shape is who he says he is. I don't see how you can be either.

[d_w_w]

Gonvick... are you hiding down there?

If so, what are your thoughts?

[praguepride]

Thing is... I'm not sure that Shape is who he says he is. I don't see how you can be either.

1) So far it's the only Jet Li character claimed, and it would be unusual for a Jet Li character not to be in a game like this

2) While the role claim is a bit odd, it's also very relevant to the character. If I were roleclaiming Danny, I would have just said he's a protector (or hinted at it at least) and people would have probably accepted that Danny would have the role of a protector, instead of giving a very ominous clue. There were several people who wanted to lynch him for fear of him turning into another SK.

3) The film is obscure enough that it wouldn't have been my goto for a role claim (like John McClane would have been, or an Office claim because we already know that Dwight and probably Michael Scott are involved)

4) The film is relevant enough that if Crychon was looking for a Jet Li character (and hadn't seen Forbidden Kingdom) that he might have gone for Unleashed as it's the next most recent popular film. I don't believe that War was more successful then Unleashed (or Danny the Dog as it's known outside of the US)

[trypio]

I still think both JB and Shape are scum, bu since I don't want to waste the phase I'll vote Banger, don't have a good feeling 'bout it though.

change vote: Wallbanger

[praguepride]

also 5) It's not a role that screams townie like 5th element or John McClane (two other claims from the list). There's a chance that Danny could be scum, if he's being controlled or if he is targeted he flips or something. It's a very ambiguous role, which also makes people nervous.

So if you were trying to false roleclaim, would you rather claim a role that is obviously useful and/or townie, or would you claim a role that might make people want to lynch you anyway?

[d_w_w]

1) So far it's the only Jet Li character claimed, and it would be unusual for a Jet Li character not to be in a game like this

2) While the role claim is a bit odd, it's also very relevant to the character. If I were roleclaiming Danny, I would have just said he's a protector (or hinted at it at least) and people would have probably accepted that Danny would have the role of a protector, instead of giving a very ominous clue. There were several people who wanted to lynch him for fear of him turning into another SK.

3) The film is obscure enough that it wouldn't have been my goto for a role claim (like John McClane would have been, or an Office claim because we already know that Dwight and probably Michael Scott are involved)

4) The film is relevant enough that if Crychon was looking for a Jet Li character (and hadn't seen Forbidden Kingdom) that he might have gone for Unleashed as it's the next most recent popular film. I don't believe that War was more successful then Unleashed (or Danny the Dog as it's known outside of the US)

Fair enough.

Why not push for foolinc then, as you seem to think his claim is less plausible?

[praguepride]

... don't have a good feeling 'bout it though.

I feel bad voting for Wallbanger because I like the guy, I like his dynasty, and if he's being quite just because he's on vacation then that's another strike.

My gut is telling me that Wallbanger is scum, one way or the other.

If I'm wrong and WB is town, I'll shut up and let someone else make the decisions from here on out, I'll just do what I'm supposed to do and relay information from other people.

[praguepride]

Fair enough.

Why not push for foolinc then, as you seem to think his claim is less plausible?

He's my #2 choice, and given the two, from what people have been saying is that Wallbanger is the more devious player.

And wouldn't it be "convenient" that right when the Sylar discussion comes up he goes on vacation. Not to say he's not, but he was still rather talkative before, posting at least once every couple of days. Now that we're Sylar hunting he's gotten real quiet, and it worked for awhile. A lot of us were saying "let's not bother WB, he's on vacation"

[praguepride]

About McClane, we'll find out soon enough when CK NK's Foolinc.

This night phase is going to be very enlightening for many many people.

[d_w_w]

also 5) It's not a role that screams townie like 5th element or John McClane (two other claims from the list). There's a chance that Danny could be scum, if he's being controlled or if he is targeted he flips or something. It's a very ambiguous role, which also makes people nervous.

So if you were trying to false roleclaim, would you rather claim a role that is obviously useful and/or townie, or would you claim a role that might make people want to lynch you anyway?

I like this point. I don't see the Danny claim being a good one, if Shape is trying to give us a false claim.

Now personally, this is just my feel for things... I don't think Wallbanger is Sylar. He wouldn't have left without sending us some obscure hints toward a false roleclaim. He's tricky, very tricky. And I don't think he'd leave something like this to chance.

[d_w_w]

But anyhow:

Vote: Wallbanger

[praguepride]

And I don't think he'd leave something like this to chance.

Why don't you want to lynch him? Is it because he's on vacation?

[praguepride]

But anyhow:

Vote: Wallbanger

6 down, 8 to go.

[d_w_w]

Why don't you want to lynch him? Is it because he's on vacation?

No. I just don't think he's a Sylar.

One - Wallbanger being Sylar requires that Sylar's original player was inactive and is mandated to kill. Now, that's often the case, but Arrows was not required to kill every night as Venom, as I recall. This means that I was killed randomly on night 1, which is certainly possible. But really now, there are players here that might want to kill me, given previous games and such, so I'd also think that I wouldn't necessarily be a bad day one target.

Two - I tend to believe that he's really on vacation, but I don't think he'd rely on that post as his defense. If he were Sylar, I would have expected the vacation post plus more hints. The fact that we got the vacation post and almost nothing else says not Sylar to me.

[d_w_w]

No. I just don't think he's a Sylar.

One - Wallbanger being Sylar requires that Sylar's original player was inactive and is mandated to kill. Now, that's often the case, but Arrows was not required to kill every night as Venom, as I recall. This means that I was killed randomly on night 1, which is certainly possible. But really now, there are players here that might want to kill me, given previous games and such, so I'd also think that I wouldn't necessarily be a bad night one target.

Two - I tend to believe that he's really on vacation, but I don't think he'd rely on that post as his defense. If he were Sylar, I would have expected the vacation post plus more hints. The fact that we got the vacation post and almost nothing else says not Sylar to me.

Fixed. d_w_w 1.0 was killed at night, not day.

[blackphoenix]

We were one away from a lynch..

I really don't like how this has swung suddenly and the chance for a no lynch occuring.

I'm an Australian how long to go til deadline?

If I have no choice I will help drop the hammer on WB but I don't know if I think this is the right idea.

Domesticated in the roleclaim really doesn't sit well with me, it feels lie he is still under control and doesn't have his own free will. Zoolander was scum, that proves the possibility of some characters who we think are good not being good.

CYBERKITTEN is this goes ahead make sure you still target foolinc, if you have a choice between him and shape we don't want you risking your nightkill.

Ford detain Shape.

[d_w_w]

In truth, depending on vote shennigans, we may have already lynched Shape.

[masterded]

In truth, depending on vote shennigans, we may have already lynched Shape.

True a multi or a poli did anything.

[blackphoenix]

True a multi or a poli did anything.

I think that may be odd since we haven't seen any multi vote behavior so far...

but you never know.

[d_w_w]

I think that may be odd since we haven't seen any multi vote behavior so far...

but you never know.

Oh, I wouldn't be very surprised. If you catch my drift.

[d_w_w]

I'm an Australian how long to go til deadline?


2 hours, 45 minutes.

[masterded]

I think that may be odd since we haven't seen any multi vote behavior so far...

but you never know.

I don't think I have ever been in a game with more then lets say 20 without a multi and more then 30 with no poli. (though it would take somone who has yet to be part of a lynch for that to happen or at least for the multi and I don't have a list of past votes on me)

[masterded]

Oh, I wouldn't be very surprised. If you catch my drift.

Missed this. So are we just doing nothing now?

[d_w_w]

Missed this. So are we just doing nothing now?

Might be.

But to be clear, I'm not talking about me.

[blackphoenix]

In that case the person must have put the poly/multi vote on when shape was at 14 right?

[d_w_w]

In that case the person must have put the poly/multi vote on when shape was at 14 right?

If it happened, yeah. But I don't know for sure.

[d_w_w]

If you figure it out or have already figured it out, keep it it to yourself. No need to share more now, I think.

[d_w_w]

Anyhow, I'm gone for awhile.

[jbergey_2005]

So now we turn our attention to a guy that is on vaction and likely inactive for a couple more days and probably is not who we are looking for. I dont get it. He said he is on vacation, he would certainly come here and try to save himself if he was around. He could be scum but I dont see him being Sylar. This is very strange indeed and the fact that 6 quick votes came on him make this even more unusual IMO.

[masterded]

So now we turn our attention to a guy that is on vaction and likely inactive for a couple more days and probably is not who we are looking for. I dont get it. He said he is on vacation, he would certainly come here and try to save himself if he was around. He could be scum but I dont see him being Sylar. This is very strange indeed and the fact that 6 quick votes came on him make this even more unusual IMO.

He will be on just not very offten and may not be able to fully catch up (wow that sounds bad). Though it all apears to be moot if d_w_w is right. Also from a pure numbers stand point he has just as much chanch of being Slyar as any of the others on the list (even a better chacne if you trust the people who where taken off).

[blackphoenix]

So now we turn our attention to a guy that is on vaction and likely inactive for a couple more days and probably is not who we are looking for. I dont get it. He said he is on vacation, he would certainly come here and try to save himself if he was around. He could be scum but I dont see him being Sylar. This is very strange indeed and the fact that 6 quick votes came on him make this even more unusual IMO.

qft - especially when we can detain him

[masterded]

qft - especially when we can detain him

It is 9 so C should be here soon and no way is wall going to get legs (and maybe shouldn't). So Change Vote: The Shape

[jbergey_2005]

He will be on just not very offten and may not be able to fully catch up (wow that sounds bad). Though it all apears to be moot if d_w_w is right. Also from a pure numbers stand point he has just as much chanch of being Slyar as any of the others on the list (even a better chacne if you trust the people who where taken off).

There may very well be a chance he is Sylar but I dont think he would purposely mislead us by claiming he was going on vaction and unable to be around a whole lot. I am guessing Wallbanger would have asked out if he had an important role like Sylar and not knowing for sure if he could be around to put in his night activity. He is suspicious none the less I just think this could wait so he could atleast defend himself.

[masterded]

Didn't mean to quote.

[praguepride]

Hang on, I'm back. For the record, it really sucks getting liquid plumber all over your hands. On the upside, I've been able to construct a few logical arguments

1) Why not lynch foolinc?
A) Because if he was Sylar, his roleclaim would be stupid. Sylar definitely has an active ability, while foolinc claimed he had a passive ability. Again, it would be very easy for him to claim that he had a bodyguard/protector ability and thus would explain why he would leave his house, but claiming a passive ability means that he's at his home every night. While there's still a high probability of foolinc being scum, he's most likely not Sylar, or it will be very apparent when the "passive" McClane suddenly gets an active ability.

2) Why Wallbanger?
A) Because something he said has been bothering me. "This new role isn't as interesting as my old one.." While at first glance it would seem like the role is a downgrade power wise. It's highly likely that John Hartigan was a vigilante (makes a lot of sense considering how many people he killed in Sin City to get his revenge on the yellow bastard) BUT you could interpret that in more subtle ways. Maybe it's less interesting because the Sylar role had already been done in the Heroes mafia game that just recently concluded? Also, Wallbanger last posted a couple days ago, while on vacation. In fact, he has posted numerous times every single day except yesterday and today, conveniently when the conversation topic shifted towards Sylar. And it's a perfect defense. No one can call him out and demand he explain himself because he's "on vacation" and yet he can still lurk, log on and PM his targets while still being "on vacation."

My guess is the Sylar role is a SK role that has to kill every night. In Heroes, Sylar seriously took every opportunity to "grow." Now considering that Sylar's victim was another SK, there's a chance that it was random, either random because of player's random pick OR because the player was MIA. And of all the roles to replace, consdering that probably made him the last SK in the game, if I was Crychon I would definitely want to replace that role ASAP to keep the game more interesting. And low, Wallbanger suddenly got a new role.

[praguepride]

So now we turn our attention to a guy that is on vaction and likely inactive for a couple more days and probably is not who we are looking for. I dont get it. He said he is on vacation, he would certainly come here and try to save himself if he was around. He could be scum but I dont see him being Sylar. This is very strange indeed and the fact that 6 quick votes came on him make this even more unusual IMO.

I make logical arguments, now change your vote!

[praguepride]

In that case the person must have put the poly/multi vote on when shape was at 14 right?

Maybe, maybe not. If it has, it's already moot and Crychon just has to log on and tell us we lynched Shape, but until then there's a chance that no one activated their poli vote yet. SO if there's a chance that we can still change our lynch, let's do it.

So blackphoenix, is that enough of an argument to convince you to change your vote?

[blackphoenix]

I make logical arguments, now change your vote!

But how are you going to get 8 votes in the next fourty minutes.

I don't see it happening to be honest..

[blackphoenix]

Maybe, maybe not. If it has, it's already moot and Crychon just has to log on and tell us we lynched Shape, but until then there's a chance that no one activated their poli vote yet. SO if there's a chance that we can still change our lynch, let's do it.

So blackphoenix, is that enough of an argument to convince you to change your vote?

Um... no... lol...

explain the domesticated part to me without being an unsettling foreboding that I feel it is..

[praguepride]

We have an hour and forty minutes.

Besides, I'm pretty convinced that Shape is town (see my earlier arguments) So I'd much rather have a no lynch then lynch the wrong target.

[praguepride]

Um... no... lol...

explain the domesticated part to me without being an unsettling foreboding that I feel it is..

That is the whole point. Claiming Danny is a really stupid move if you're not Danny.

Now whether Danny is scum or town...who knows, but he's not Sylar

[praguepride]

Finally, even if Wallbanger is MIA, if Sylar works as a mandatory random killer, then it doesn't matter if he's on vacation or not, he'll still be killing people.

It's actually a decent role to be in if your AFK because it doesn't matter what you do, even if you're not there it will still attempt to follow a path that is on line with it's final objective (be the last one standing).

[blackphoenix]

That is the whole point. Claiming Danny is a really stupid move if you're not Danny.

Now whether Danny is scum or town...who knows, but he's not Sylar

But see that's my problem as well, if we lynch Shape (who even if he isn't sylar the domesticated part doesn't sit well with me, if it said freed or something I'd be happier) the rest of our night plan can weed out the other players.

[blackphoenix]

Finally, even if Wallbanger is MIA, if Sylar works as a mandatory random killer, then it doesn't matter if he's on vacation or not, he'll still be killing people.

It's actually a decent role to be in if your AFK because it doesn't matter what you do, even if you're not there it will still attempt to follow a path that is on line with it's final objective (be the last one standing).

but I don't buy the killing of OK as random.

[praguepride]

but I don't buy the killing of OK as random.

So? Who said it was? I fully think that WB has been logging on and lurking. He's been posting every day just about while on vacation already...

[Undertaker666]

Sweet baby Jesus, I thought this phase would've been over by now!

[praguepride]

But see that's my problem as well, if we lynch Shape (who even if he isn't sylar the domesticated part doesn't sit well with me, if it said freed or something I'd be happier) the rest of our night plan can weed out the other players.

And I think that the domesticated part means that he's town.

[praguepride]

Sweet baby Jesus, I thought this phase would've been over by now!

Cast you vote! Time is running out!

[masterded]

but I don't buy the killing of OK as random.

Even though Walls last post was 1am Friday it doesn't mean that was the last time he was on. Heck at Noon he was drafting with a group of us. That being said I am not sold on him being or not being Sylar. I just think that we should look at all the facts and use the list (which is what is going on, so good).

[Undertaker666]

Cast you vote! Time is running out!

My vote's already on Shape. :p

[blackphoenix]

but I don't buy the killing of OK as random.

So? Who said it was? I fully think that WB has been logging on and lurking. He's been posting every day just about while on vacation already...

Finally, even if Wallbanger is MIA, if Sylar works as a mandatory random killer, then it doesn't matter if he's on vacation or not, he'll still be killing people.

It's actually a decent role to be in if your AFK because it doesn't matter what you do, even if you're not there it will still attempt to follow a path that is on line with it's final objective (be the last one standing).

You did.

And I think that the domesticated part means that he's town.

I disagree completely, a domesticated Danny was domesticated and controlled by a bad guy.

[masterded]

Sweet baby Jesus, I thought this phase would've been over by now!

C hasn't been on in a long time. Leading to one lynch being on hold (maybe talk of a multi pr a poli) and talks of other possible moves.

[blackphoenix]

Anyway I think we are a bit of a stalemate at the shape/WB argument

[Undertaker666]

Anyway I think we are a bit of a stalemate at the shape/WB argument

You got any idea what the vote count is at? I'll change my vote if Wallbanger's currently got more.

[blackphoenix]

You got any idea what the vote count is at? I'll change my vote if Wallbanger's currently got more.

I think it's

WB - 6

Shape - 8

[foolinc]

You got any idea what the vote count is at? I'll change my vote if Wallbanger's currently got more.

I am suspicious of both The Shape and Wallbanger 2.0, so I am with Taker on this one.

[praguepride]

He's at 6 so far.

Maybe I'm the only one seeing this, but this whole vacation thing is brilliant if Wallbanger really is scum of some sort.

Think about it, how many times has UT been "wallbanger's silence is making me nervous" only to have someone defend him and say "he's on vacation?"

Yet he's still posting on other threads. As mentioned before, he's still participating in other online activities. So far it seems like the trend is that he'll occasionally contribute, but mostly he's staying quiet and I don't buy that it's solely because he's on vacation.

Every time the focus gets on him, he clams up and people come out of the woodwork defending him. Its the perfect defense. Random people are defending him, claiming he's not online enough to be Sylar, yet look at his previous days posts... he posted a bunch of times earlier this week.

Now the OK killing COULD BE random, but it probably wasn't. But that was also in the middle of Wallbanger's more frequent posting. During the night phase, he posted dozens of times. Why couldn't he have lurked a bit, found out that OK was Peter Paterlli, shoot off his NK and then log off. Being an SK isn't exactly time consuming...

[Undertaker666]

I think it's

WB - 6

Shape - 8

Then we should stick with Shape, he was almost lynched earlier so I can't understand why votes were removed with no new information coming through.

[masterded]

We have a little less then 2 hours.

[praguepride]

As for The Shape, I'm pretty sure he's town because he hasn't been mentioned in any write up so far, and if he WAS scum, he'd definitely be one of their hitmen.

Plus, what the heck would that whole "trigger might make him revert" thing do?

I bet it's like a bulletproof where he kills his attacker, or maybe even a "bomb" where he explodes, killing the attacker and then disappearing (like he did in the movie)

[blackphoenix]

praguepride went to bat for him and conviced others to change their votes.

[praguepride]

Then we should stick with Shape, he was almost lynched earlier so I can't understand why votes were removed with no new information coming through.

Well, as it stands, I don't think we'll switch back because I was basically the last vote to matter, and i'll vote for a no lynch before the shape.

So we can either no lynch (most likely) or attempt to vote wallbanger.

[praguepride]

But if foolinc, UT, and blackphoenix change votes, then that'll be 9 for Wallbanger, leaving just 5 more to lynch.

[blackphoenix]

Well, as it stands, I don't think we'll switch back because I was basically the last vote to matter, and i'll vote for a no lynch before the shape.

So we can either no lynch (most likely) or attempt to vote wallbanger.

This is a really gutsy play prague, if WB is town and Shape is scum that means your done.

[Undertaker666]

As for The Shape, I'm pretty sure he's town because he hasn't been mentioned in any write up so far, and if he WAS scum, he'd definitely be one of their hitmen.

You're basing that on if he is who he says he's is, if he's Sylar then of course we're not going to see any reference to "Danny the Dog" in the write-up.

Well, as it stands, I don't think we'll switch back because I was basically the last vote to matter, and i'll vote for a no lynch before the shape.

So we can either no lynch (most likely) or attempt to vote wallbanger.

That's ridiculous, even if we lynch Shape and he's a townie then it narrows down the list of suspects and we've still got numbers on our side.

[blackphoenix]

But if foolinc, UT, and blackphoenix change votes, then that'll be 9 for Wallbanger, leaving just 5 more to lynch.

So if your the one switch vote, you'll go no lynch.

But you require everyone else to change their votes for your opinon?

[praguepride]

This is a really gutsy play prague, if WB is town and Shape is scum that means your done.

Yeah it is. Since I was outed by d_w_w my time here is limited as is. I figure might as well die doing something productive.

Please read my 5 point post discussing the logic about why playing the Danny roleclaim would be a stupid move for anyone but Danny (and a smart move for Danny if he's actually scum but then he'd definitely be mafia aligned scum and STILL not Sylar).

I'm not 100% that Wallbanger is Sylar, but I am 99.99% sure he's scum.

If I'm wrong, I'll shut up and just bandwagon vote from here on in. I really am staking everything on this move.

[jbergey_2005]

Well, as it stands, I don't think we'll switch back because I was basically the last vote to matter, and i'll vote for a no lynch before the shape.

So we can either no lynch (most likely) or attempt to vote wallbanger.

Its your list and you have Shape on the bottom 5(top possible suspects) yet you will vote a no lynch instead of taking a name off? Should we even be looking at your list?

[blackphoenix]

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I'm not 100% that Wallbanger is Sylar, but I am 99.99% sure he's scum.
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I'm not 100% that The Shape is Sylar, but I am 99.99% sure he's scum.

[Undertaker666]

I say we lynch Praguepride....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/devil_smiley-low.gif

[blackphoenix]

In random things...

Christiane Cyborg is my new rolemodel

[blackphoenix]

I say we lynch Praguepride....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/devil_smiley-low.gif

no no no yellow horns.. yellow horns.

[foolinc]

I say we lynch Praguepride....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/devil_smiley-low.gif

He was the one that gave us "the list" ;)

[praguepride]

So if your the one switch vote, you'll go no lynch.

But you require everyone else to change their votes for your opinon?

d_w_w did. Everyone was all ready to lynch me up and high, but he stuck his neck out to protect me. (thanks)

So I figure, pay it forward. I am truly convinced that the Shape is town, the more I think about it. So lynching him would be a really bad move. While I don't have concrete evidence like d_w_w did, I do have what I think is a very sound logical reasoning why the Shape wouldn't be Sylar (but there is still a possability he's scum, but the whole "he might revert back" means more likely that he's domesticated as in friendly, but if he is provoked the killer will re-emerge. If h'es scum, that part of the role doesn't make much sense, and considering that the Shape was convinced that Danny was an actual dog, I'm doubting he's really seen to much of the movie to know the subtleties of the role.

Now you could make the argument that this is all a play within a play within a play, but I don't believe anyone really goes that far. There are so many better claims to make (like John McClane) that claiming a role that makes people want to lynch you anyway is a really dumb move to make.

[masterded]

I say we lynch Praguepride....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/devil_smiley-low.gif

Come on he is making this more fun. Though if he ends up causing this to be a no lynch I will be pissed. But, I like seeing someone take a stand and make a line. Though it may stop us from progressing in information this day which would be quite helpful (which would suck).

[blackphoenix]

d_w_w did. Everyone was all ready to lynch me up and high, but he stuck his neck out to protect me. (thanks)
.

Difference...

He had proof, you do not.

[praguepride]

Its your list and you have Shape on the bottom 5(top possible suspects) yet you will vote a no lynch instead of taking a name off? Should we even be looking at your list?

If you look, I haven't removed any names from the list (including Sprinkles who was already lynched).

I am trying not to edit the list because that is the only real fact we have so far, is that list in its entirety.

[masterded]

Come on he is making this more fun. Though if he ends up causing this to be a no lynch I will be pissed. But, I like seeing someone take a stand and make a line. Though it may stop us from progressing in information this day which would be quite helpful (which would suck).

Information eould be helpful no him stopping it. Should have said that better though i guess most will get what i ment. But for the others now you know.

[praguepride]

Difference...

He had proof, you do not.

Fair enough, but which would you rather have? A no lynch or a lynch of wallbanger?

[Undertaker666]

Now you could make the argument that this is all a play within a play within a play, but I don't believe anyone really goes that far. There are so many better claims to make (like John McClane) that claiming a role that makes people want to lynch you anyway is a really dumb move to make.

And which is more believable, a Jet-Li character who doesn't know what happens to him, or John McLane being bullet proof? In Die Hard 4 even a fighter jet couldn't shoot him!!!

[praguepride]

Even if we do end up no lynching, we can quick create contingency plans to cover most aspects of the top 5 suspects...

[jbergey_2005]

If you look, I haven't removed any names from the list (including Sprinkles who was already lynched).

I am trying not to edit the list because that is the only real fact we have so far, is that list in its entirety.

Thats fine if you dont edit the list but the point being you just went through this afternoon and listed your top suspects and the shape was one of the 5, what has changed that you are so sure he is town suddenly and not telling a bunch of white lies? And yes Ive read your thoughts but you didnt think of this stuff until you updated your list?

[Undertaker666]

Even if we do end up no lynching, we can quick create contingency plans to cover most aspects of the top 5 suspects...

Or we could eliminate one of them now, townie or not, and get a head start. :rolleyes:

[praguepride]

And which is more believable, a Jet-Li character who doesn't know what happens to him, or John McLane being bullet proof? In Die Hard 4 even a fighter jet couldn't shoot him!!!

I'm not even going into that discussion yet. whether foolinc is scum or not is out of scope for this current day phase.

So what's it going to be UT, you gonna join me in a swing vote or let things come to a standstill?

[masterded]

And which is more believable, a Jet-Li character who doesn't know what happens to him, or John McLane being bullet proof? In Die Hard 4 even a fighter jet couldn't shoot him!!!

Die Hard 4 never happened. A Die Hard movie with Mac guy was never made (don't hate mac just the guy).

*Covers ears and closes eyes.

[blackphoenix]

Fair enough, but which would you rather have? A no lynch or a lynch of wallbanger?

A lynch of Shape.

Again your the only one restricting that. I have put the hammer down on people that I didn't feel comfortable with before because I wanted to go with the town rather than a no lynch.

In some cases a no lynch is benefical.. in this case as we have the list it is not beneficial because it stops us from reducing the suspects.

[praguepride]

Thats fine if you dont edit the list but the point being you just went through this afternoon and listed your top suspects and the shape was one of the 5, what has changed that you are so sure he is town suddenly and not telling a bunch of white lies? And yes Ive read your thoughts but you didnt think of this stuff until you updated your list?

I've had a lot of time on my hands with nothing to do but think. As I listed in my 5-point analysis, for someone not to be Danny to claim Danny would be stupid.

Especially because he thought Danny was an actual dog before we told him what Danny actually was.

[blackphoenix]

I've had a lot of time on my hands with nothing to do but think. As I listed in my 5-point analysis, for someone not to be Danny to claim Danny would be stupid.

Especially because he thought Danny was an actual dog before we told him what Danny actually was.

People do dumb things in mafia.

People play dumb in mafia.

[praguepride]

A lynch of Shape.

Again your the only one restricting that. I have put the hammer down on people that I didn't feel comfortable with before because I wanted to go with the town rather than a no lynch.

In some cases a no lynch is benefical.. in this case as we have the list it is not beneficial because it stops us from reducing the suspects.

At this point I am too invested and too convinced that the Shape is town. You're right, I am preventing that, although this night phase will do tons more to narrow down the list then the lynch will (unless we lynch Wallbanger, who is Sylar)

:D

[Undertaker666]

I'm not even going into that discussion yet. whether foolinc is scum or not is out of scope for this current day phase.

So what's it going to be UT, you gonna join me in a swing vote or let things come to a standstill?

You're making it sound like you're the be all and end all, unless you've got a x6 voting ability your threat is invalid.