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praguepride
07-27-2008, 08:59 PM
People do dumb things in mafia.

People play dumb in mafia.

But would you claim a role you have no idea exists? From his first few hints it was pretty obvious that before this he had never heard of Unleashed or Danny.

Now the argument could be made that this is all some elaborate scheme to throw us off, but it would only hold up one more day because from the hints being thrown around, we have a lot more investigators and blockers waiting in the wings. I'm not saying that the Shape bet let off the hook, I think he should be investigated/blocked/jailed like the others on the list.

I just think that Wallbanger is much more likely to be Sylar because WALLBANGER HASN'T SAID ANYTHING!!!!!

Assuming everyone is telling the truth, that only leaves Wallbanger.

Assuming everyone is lying, that still leaves Wallbanger under suspicions because for someone as active online as him, he's been remarkably silent.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:00 PM
You're making it sound like you're the be all and end all, unless you've got a x6 voting ability your threat is invalid.

As an add-on to that, anyone with a logical mind can see that it makes no sense at all to have a no lynch, so unless everyone else thinks like you they'd make sure a lynch went ahead.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:00 PM
At this point I am too invested and too convinced that the Shape is town. You're right, I am preventing that, although this night phase will do tons more to narrow down the list then the lynch will (unless we lynch Wallbanger, who is Sylar)

:D

No the lynch is part of the plan to narrow down the list... the lynch is part of the plan.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:00 PM
You're making it sound like you're the be all and end all, unless you've got a x6 voting ability your threat is invalid.

I didn't mean that as a threat, I'm just saying I have 6 votes behind me, you have 8 votes behind you. Now together, we can get a lynch.

Now, are you as convinced about the Shape being Sylar as I am about Wallbanger?

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:01 PM
No the lynch is part of the plan to narrow down the list... the lynch is part of the plan.

I know, please vote for Wallbanger. At least you won't have to fear him and his tricky scum abilities anymore.

I keep hearing how everyone is afraid of Wallbanger, yet reluctant to vote for him...

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:02 PM
But would you claim a role you have no idea exists? From his first few hints it was pretty obvious that before this he had never heard of Unleashed or Danny.


But you could claim a character and play dumb about knowing who he is...

I played my way dumb to a friggin mafia don win in my first NLW mafia game.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:03 PM
But you could claim a character and play dumb about knowing who he is...

I played my way dumb to a friggin mafia don win in my first NLW mafia game.


Now the argument could be made that this is all some elaborate scheme to throw us off, but it would only hold up one more day because from the hints being thrown around, we have a lot more investigators and blockers waiting in the wings. I'm not saying that the Shape bet let off the hook, I think he should be investigated/blocked/jailed like the others on the list.


That would be the rest of that post that you edited out. I believe I am at least attempting to address every counter point to the best of my abilities.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:04 PM
tic toc, only 1:30 to go...

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:05 PM
I guess we go to no lynch then

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:05 PM
I have the theory of "go big or go home" so this is my go big.

If I'm wrong, I'll shut up and be a sheep and follow the bandwagon unless I have hard facts proving otherwise.


All I'm asking for is to put a little trust in me. Even if I'm wrong, we've still narrowed down a very dangerous suspect.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:06 PM
I guess we go to no lynch then

So you would rather no lynch then lynch Wallbanger? Can I ask why?

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:06 PM
I just think that Wallbanger is much more likely to be Sylar because WALLBANGER HASN'T SAID ANYTHING!!!!!

'Banger would also know full well that his silence would draw attention to him. You can argue it either way, but all we're doing is banging our heads against a wall because we aren't going to gain any new information.

I didn't mean that as a threat, I'm just saying I have 6 votes behind me, you have 8 votes behind you. Now together, we can get a lynch.

Now, are you as convinced about the Shape being Sylar as I am about Wallbanger?

I'm not sure which of them is Sylar, or if it even is one of those two. We just need to lynch one of them and we're one step closer to finding Sylar, either through careful planning or lynching Sylar.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:06 PM
tic toc, only 1:30 to go...

Since you seem so sure suddenly and no lynch is about the worst thing that could happen. I will follow your instincts here, now just dont be wrong because I dont like lynching people on vaction.

Change Vote:Wallbanger 2.0

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:07 PM
Since you seem so sure suddenly and no lynch is about the worst thing that could happen. I will follow your instincts here, now just dont be wrong because I dont like lynching people on vaction.



I feel terrible for doing this, becuase it could be that he is just busy... and I really like the guy, especially from his dynasty...

but in the game, I think it's the right move to make.

So now it's tied, 7 to 7...

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:08 PM
That's fine - I can see your issue here. Who would you prefer to lynch?

Change Vote: Wallbanger

I see it this way: 'Banger is a variable.

Everyone else has spoken.

If we want to play the "Who's lying?" game, we need to make sure that's the only question. I'm willing to believe those roleclaims because I see no real reason to doubt them other than intuition.

So, we get rid of the variable and at least know what we're working with. Personally, he' the most likely Sylar candidate in my mind, so this all may be null.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:08 PM
I keep hearing how everyone is afraid of Wallbanger, yet reluctant to vote for him...

Look at it this way, for all we know 'Banger could well have a great townie ability and we could lynch him without even knowing it, much like Sprinklefurball. Shape on the other hand has told us his ability, but he's even said himself that he isn't sure what will happen, so for all we know it could turn him evil.

I'd much rather have a mysterious 'Banger locked up in prison than potentially having Jet Li kicking my ass.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:09 PM
Sorry if I'm not going to help you praguepride,

I don't like to be pushed around or blackmailed into a vote with the threat of no lynch.

Good luck, if you can convince others I hope your right.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:09 PM
Did we lynch Danny yet?

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:09 PM
Wallbanger is in fact away, by the way, but made it clear he'd have internet service via wi-fi and was present, whilst on the road, at my Fantasy draft.

foolinc
07-27-2008, 09:11 PM
I'm being to think there is something fishy going on with the switch from Shape. A no lynch is worse than being wrong.

Change Vote: Wallbanger 2.0

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:12 PM
Did we lynch Danny yet?

No.

Praguepride decided that it's a wallbanger lynch or no lynch.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm being to think there is something fishy going on with the switch from Shape. A no lynch is worse than being wrong.

Change Vote: Wallbanger 2.0

Atleast we know where to look if this is the case.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:13 PM
Wallbanger is in fact away, by the way, but made it clear he'd have internet service via wi-fi and was present, whilst on the road, at my Fantasy draft.

I am NOT saying that the whole vacation thing is a fake. What I am saying is that it does create the perfect opportunity for someone who would normally draw a lot of attention on himself to lie low and for normally no one to really suspect anything foul.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:16 PM
No.

Praguepride decided that it's a wallbanger lynch or no lynch.

WHY!?!

DID HE READ OVER MY REASONING!?!

Danny is JUST LIKE ZOOLANDER!

*facepalm*

First jberg then this...I'm beginning to think some people here are PURPOSLY driving the town away from targets!

ford
07-27-2008, 09:17 PM
All I know is we should settle on a target soon so we can narrow down our list. We don't want to give Sylar any second chances.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Sigh. Just sigh.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:19 PM
WHY!?!

DID HE READ OVER MY REASONING!?!

Danny is JUST LIKE ZOOLANDER!

*facepalm*

First jberg then this...I'm beginning to think some people here are PURPOSLY driving the town away from targets!

Welcome to my world of pain.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Change Vote: praguepride

For principle. What were we, one away when I left? If we get a no lynch...I'll be angry...

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:20 PM
Can we muster enough votes to lynch one of them... Wallbanger or Shape?

UT is right, we lynch someone now and get a headstart. I'll change my vote back to Shape if the majority prefers, I've already said that my gut tells me that Wallbanger isn't Sylar (although he could easily be scum).

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:20 PM
Change Vote: praguepride

For principle. What were we, one away when I left? If we get a no lynch...I'll be angry...

Exactly, one away from a lynch.... :rolleyes:

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:21 PM
WHY!?!

DID HE READ OVER MY REASONING!?!

Danny is JUST LIKE ZOOLANDER!

*facepalm*

First jberg then this...I'm beginning to think some people here are PURPOSLY driving the town away from targets!

Well, I'm not praguepride, but your logic is just speculative. Would Crychon include 2 minionesque, unwilling/unknowing scum?

I don't think so.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:21 PM
The Shape: 7 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 3 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 9 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc)


You know, if UT, blackphoenix, and now Astil change votes, then the shoe would be on the other foot and only a couple more to lynch.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:22 PM
Come on peeps, lets get this over with.

Change vote: Wallbanger

I need Absinthe....

masterded
07-27-2008, 09:22 PM
The Shape: 7 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 3 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 9 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc)


You know, if UT, blackphoenix, and now Astil change votes, then the shoe would be on the other foot and only a couple more to lynch.

I am not on wall anymore.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:22 PM
The Shape: 6 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01)
foolinc: 3 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 9 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc)
praguepride: 1 (Astil)

Sorry, forgot that last vote.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:22 PM
The Shape: 7 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 3 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 9 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc)


You know, if UT, blackphoenix, and now Astil change votes, then the shoe would be on the other foot and only a couple more to lynch.

Or if the 6 of us here that are on Wallbanger go back to Shape, we'll be 2 from that again.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:24 PM
I am not on wall anymore.

When did you change your vote? If it wasn't in bold I probably didn't look at it.

The Shape: 6 (gonvick, blackphoenix, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 3 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 10 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc, Undetaker666)

masterded
07-27-2008, 09:25 PM
It is 9 so C should be here soon and no way is wall going to get legs (and maybe shouldn't). So Change Vote: The Shape

here

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:25 PM
The Shape: 6 (gonvick, blackphoenix, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 10 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc, Undetaker666)

I'm starting to understand the problems that Crychon has, i'm throwing this into excel.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:26 PM
Well, I'm not praguepride, but your logic is just speculative. Would Crychon include 2 minionesque, unwilling/unknowing scum?

I don't think so.

Why not, could be the theme of the mafia. One overlord, many minions. Oh, wait, one don, many minions. :eek:

If you wanted a kung fu badass, why pick one with a history SO MUCH LIKE ZOOLANDERS.

Mjd, if Shape is scum, so are you, and that's why

Change Vote: The Shape

Two for one here, or just go for Banger?

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:26 PM
The Shape: 7 (gonvick, blackphoenix, Undertaker666, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 3 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 9 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc)


You know, if UT, blackphoenix, and now Astil change votes, then the shoe would be on the other foot and only a couple more to lynch.

Ooooh... wait...

Shape lynch or no lynch...

See how annoying that is.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:27 PM
Why not, could be the theme of the mafia. One overlord, many minions. Oh, wait, one don, many minions. :eek:

If you wanted a kung fu badass, why pick one with a history SO MUCH LIKE ZOOLANDERS.

Mjd, if Shape is scum, so are you, and that's why

Change Vote: The Shape

Two for one here, or just go for Banger?

Weren't you already on Shape?

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:28 PM
Come on guys...

Without Wallbanger, we'll have Sylar dead, or we'll KNOW if someone is lying. It's a win-win situation.

Did The Shape kill anyone yet? Does anyone think he's Sylar?

If you answered no twice, change your vote! I don't see the hold up... Did I miss something myself?

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:28 PM
Weren't you already on Shape?

Switched to prague for principle.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:28 PM
The Shape: 5 (gonvick, blackphoenix, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)
Wallbanger: 9 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, masterded, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc, Undetaker666)
praguepride: 1 (Astil)
No Lynch: 1 (masterded)[/B]

Excel is definitely the way to tally votes, good ole COUNTA()

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Come on guys...

Without Wallbanger, we'll have Sylar dead, or we'll KNOW if someone is lying. It's a win-win situation.

Did The Shape kill anyone yet? Does anyone think he's Sylar?

If you answered no twice, change your vote! I don't see the hold up... Did I miss something myself?

Why can't he be Sylar, because of the strange roleclaim?

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Come on guys...

Without Wallbanger, we'll have Sylar dead, or we'll KNOW if someone is lying. It's a win-win situation.

Did The Shape kill anyone yet? Does anyone think he's Sylar?

If you answered no twice, change your vote! I don't see the hold up... Did I miss something myself?

Why don't you want Shape dead? You've been more than just playing devil's advocate, even before the Banger thing came up.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:31 PM
Ok, this is the updated count. I'm not going to post it pretty like because too many votes are switching while I post

The Shape 6
foolinc 2
Wallbanger 8
No Lynch 1 masterded

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:31 PM
Shaaaaaaape
Shaaaaaaaape
Shaaaaaaaaaape

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:31 PM
Danny is a slave. Danny is part of the criminal underworld. If he wasn't he would no longer be a "dog". Anyone whose seen the movie or read the wiki knows what I mean.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:31 PM
One hour left...

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:32 PM
Vote: The Shape

If we're wrong, we're wrong. But I really don't like the way praguepride is pushing for Banger who hasn't defended himself. I seem to recall something similar with sprinkle.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:32 PM
Ok, this is the updated count. I'm not going to post it pretty like because too many votes are switching while I post

The Shape 6
foolinc 2
Wallbanger 8
No Lynch 1 masterded


masterded is on the Shape according to his post above...

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:32 PM
Mjd, if Shape is scum, so are you

I'm not claiming that Shape is without a doubt town. I'm claiming that he is far from our top priority.

Answer this: Did The Shape, to the best of your knowledge, kill or injury ANYONE yet?

What about Sylar?

:rolleyes:

I'm willing to accept suspicion, but suggesting we're equally aligned is illogical and silly...

If I knew someone was within 1 or 2 of being lynched and knew they were mafia, would I openly oppose lynching them? I am surely not that dumb, even at my dumbest of dumb states...

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:32 PM
Danny is a slave. Danny is part of the criminal underworld. If he wasn't he would no longer be a "dog". Anyone whose seen the movie or read the wiki knows what I mean.

I do, so how do you explain the part where something might trigger him and he'll revert back?

Doesn't make much sense scumside as the trigger obviously means he'll kick ass.

But if he's working for scum then he's already kicking ass.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:33 PM
The Shape 8
foolinc 2
Wallbanger 8

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:34 PM
Danny is a slave. Danny is part of the criminal underworld. If he wasn't he would no longer be a "dog". Anyone whose seen the movie or read the wiki knows what I mean.

QFT

This is why the domesticated bit pings with me.

Play of the year in the NLW forums, Arrows claiming a scum role as a town role and getting away with it.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:34 PM
Vote: The Shape

If we're wrong, we're wrong. But I really don't like the way praguepride is pushing for Banger who hasn't defended himself. I seem to recall something similar with sprinkle.

Hey, at least we're cleaning house. Eventually sprinkle would come under suspicion as he hadn't posted at all and what happened would have happened. Tell me you're not naturally suspicious of lurkers in this game...

unless you're scum that is...

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:34 PM
I do, so how do you explain the part where something might trigger him and he'll revert back?

Doesn't make much sense scumside as the trigger obviously means he'll kick ass.

But if he's working for scum then he's already kicking ass.

He's lying.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:34 PM
Poor, poor Crychon.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:34 PM
QFT

This is why the domesticated bit pings with me.

Play of the year in the NLW forums, Arrows claiming a scum role as a town role and getting away with it.

Domesticated could also mean that he's friendly and sociable...

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Domesticated could also mean that he's friendly and sociable...

BUT..

in Danny's context it doesn't.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:36 PM
He's lying.

Did anyone read my logic behind why it would be a really stupid move to claim danny if you weren't danny, considering almost the entire crowd wanted to lynch him anyway? Even if he is scum I'd rather have stupid scum around then smart unknowns like Wallbanger.

If wallbanger is scum AND shape is scum, then I'd much rather get rid of wallbanger who's been playing brilliantly (look at all the people defending him considering he hasn't posted) then shape (who if he is scum, it was a dumb role claim as until I came along everyone was more then ready to lynch him anyway)

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Hey, at least we're cleaning house. Eventually sprinkle would come under suspicion as he hadn't posted at all and what happened would have happened. Tell me you're not naturally suspicious of lurkers in this game...

unless you're scum that is...


Cleaning house? You mean as long as we do it your way. Last I read you refuse to vote for anything other than Banger.

I do believe several people informed you that sprinkle was playing exactly the same way he plays every game. So no, I wasn't suspicious of him lurking, it's what he does.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:37 PM
BUT..

in Danny's context it doesn't.

Umm.. yeah it does.

He became "housebroken" after spending time with Morgan Freeman and the cute little girl with braces.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:37 PM
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1. to convert (animals, plants, etc.) to domestic uses; tame.
2. to tame (an animal), esp. by generations of breeding, to live in close association with human beings as a pet or work animal and usually creating a dependency so that the animal loses its ability to live in the wild.
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jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:38 PM
Who is online right now?

I know I am, Plague, MJD, Blackphoenix, Astil, D_W-W, UT, IER

We need to make sure we come to a solution before everyone leaves and we end up with nothing.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:38 PM
Domesticated could also mean that he's friendly and sociable...

and dog?

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Just pick one, people....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/wip3.gif

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Even if he is scum I'd rather have stupid scum around then smart unknowns like Wallbanger.

Really? Really? You'd rather keep around people who can kill you and win the game rather than people who maybe, just maybe might be a townie who can help you WIN the game? I'll vote for a certified scum regardless of skill long before I ever vote for a smart player who "might" be scum.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Now, here's my final sound bit of logic.

It sounds like we're in agreement that Shape IS Danny, just whether he's scum or not.

Now the point is that we're trying to narrow down Sylar suspects. So if you agree that Shape is Danny, then we don't have to worry (at the moment) whether he's scum or not because that means HE'S NOT SYLAR

foolinc
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Who is online right now?

I know I am, Plague, MJD, Blackphoenix, Astil, D_W-W, UT, IER

We need to make sure we come to a solution before everyone leaves and we end up with nothing.

I'm on and will be till the day is over.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Ok.

We need to settle this.

Does everyone agree that we need to lynch someone this phase?

If so, who are you currently voting for, and are you willing to change?

Me? I can't see us doing a no-lynch. If we mislynch a townie, so be it... we have to try to get scum, it's the only surefire way that we can win. We can't win sitting back, letting day phases go by unused.

My vote is currently on Wallbanger. I'll go back to Shape in the name of getting a lynch through.

The rest of you?

masterded
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
I'm on and will be till the day is over.

me too though I think I said this allready.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Really? Really? You'd rather keep around people who can kill you and win the game rather than people who maybe, just maybe might be a townie who can help you WIN the game? I'll vote for a certified scum regardless of skill long before I ever vote for a smart player who "might" be scum.

No, I'd rather kill Sylar because at the moment he's the most powerful. We had a great first couple of days and the mafia has to be hurting bad. Given a 1/3 ratio of mafia to townie, we've eliminted almost half of them in the first couple of days.

masterded
07-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Ok.

We need to settle this.

Does everyone agree that we need to lynch someone this phase?

If so, who are you currently voting for, and are you willing to change?

Me? I can't see us doing a no-lynch. If we mislynch a townie, so be it... we have to try to get scum, it's the only surefire way that we can win. We can't win sitting back, letting day phases go by unused.

My vote is currently on Wallbanger. I'll go back to Shape in the name of getting a lynch through.

The rest of you?

Same but reverse.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Ok.

We need to settle this.

Does everyone agree that we need to lynch someone this phase?

If so, who are you currently voting for, and are you willing to change?

Me? I can't see us doing a no-lynch. If we mislynch a townie, so be it... we have to try to get scum, it's the only surefire way that we can win. We can't win sitting back, letting day phases go by unused.

My vote is currently on Wallbanger. I'll go back to Shape in the name of getting a lynch through.

The rest of you?

I would change

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:40 PM
do·mes·ti·cate Audio Help /dəˈmɛstɪˌkeɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[duh-mes-ti-keyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -cat·ed, -cat·ing.
–verb (used with object)
1. to convert (animals, plants, etc.) to domestic uses; tame.
2. to tame (an animal), esp. by generations of breeding, to live in close association with human beings as a pet or work animal and usually creating a dependency so that the animal loses its ability to live in the wild.
3. to adapt (a plant) so as to be cultivated by and beneficial to human beings.
4. to accustom to household life or affairs.
5. to take (something foreign, unfamiliar, etc.) for one's own use or purposes; adopt.
6. to make more ordinary, familiar, acceptable, or the like: to domesticate radical ideas.
–verb (used without object)
7. to be domestic.

I'll take #2. To tame. What was Danny. Tamed. What did his owner constantly call him. An animal. A trained animal. He most certainly WAS NOT FRIENDLY, especially when controlled.

If he was not controlled, then then he wouldn't be tamed, nor would he be an "attack dog"

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:40 PM
and dog?

That's the best descriptor for him, he was an attack dog that Morgan Freeman's family domesticated.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
Now, here's my final sound bit of logic.

It sounds like we're in agreement that Shape IS Danny, just whether he's scum or not.

Now the point is that we're trying to narrow down Sylar suspects. So if you agree that Shape is Danny, then we don't have to worry (at the moment) whether he's scum or not because that means HE'S NOT SYLAR

No, we're trying to win the game and that means eliminated ALL scum. YOU (according to your claim) have to find Sylar. Sure he is a threat and is dangerous, but we can't put scum catching on pause to find a needle in a haystack.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
1. to convert (animals, plants, etc.) to domestic uses; tame.
2. to tame (an animal), esp. by generations of breeding, to live in close association with human beings as a pet or work animal and usually creating a dependency so that the animal loses its ability to live in the wild.
3. to adapt (a plant) so as to be cultivated by and beneficial to human beings.
4. to accustom to household life or affairs.
5. to take (something foreign, unfamiliar, etc.) for one's own use or purposes; adopt.
6. to make more ordinary, familiar, acceptable, or the like: to domesticate radical ideas.
–verb (used without object)
7. to be domestic.

Domestication is also being controlled.

Danny's still a human being
- 2. to tame (an animal), esp. by generations of breeding, to live in close association with human beings as a pet or work animal and usually creating a dependency so that the animal loses its ability to live in the wild.

A human's ability to live in the wild is to operate as a normal member of society.

ford
07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
I want a lynch. I would be willing to change myself. I already did just earlier, so why wouldn't I switch back?

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
I'm torn...

I REALLLLLY don't want to lynch Shape, but I REALLLLLLY don't want a no lynch so we can do the same thing tomorrow.

Wallbanger, please? For me?

He's an unknown, and you CAN NOT doubt that...

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
jbergey and ford are on Wallbanger, correct?

foolinc
07-27-2008, 09:42 PM
Ok.

We need to settle this.

Does everyone agree that we need to lynch someone this phase?

If so, who are you currently voting for, and are you willing to change?

Me? I can't see us doing a no-lynch. If we mislynch a townie, so be it... we have to try to get scum, it's the only surefire way that we can win. We can't win sitting back, letting day phases go by unused.

My vote is currently on Wallbanger. I'll go back to Shape in the name of getting a lynch through.

The rest of you?

I am on Wallbanger and since I already changed once and am willing to go back.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:42 PM
jbergey and ford are on Wallbanger, correct?

yes

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm sorry, but unless I've missed something I can't vote for Wallbanger without hearing from him. If he's town he's far too valuable to us as a player.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:42 PM
I will not change. We learn too much from a Shape lynch.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:42 PM
I'll take #2. To tame. What was Danny. Tamed. What did his owner constantly call him. An animal. A trained animal. He most certainly WAS NOT FRIENDLY, especially when controlled.

If he was not controlled, then then he wouldn't be tamed, nor would he be an "attack dog"

ANYWAY, let's leave this derailment.

Now let's look at another bit of logic.

Either A) Shape lied and did false roleclaim or B) Shape was honest

So if A then see my list about why it would be a dumb move to roleclaim an ambigious, frightening role like Danny

If B then Shape can't be Sylar.

I think we have enough people online to lynch Wallbanger if people stop debating whether Danny would be town or scum.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm staying on Shape.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
I will not change. We learn too much from a Shape lynch.

No matter who we lynch, we're going to learn a ton more from this night phase then we would from a single lynch at this point.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
If prague's count is right, we need 6 to switch to either player to lynch (both Shape and Wallbanger are currently at 8).

jbergey, foolinc, ford and myself will switch.

need 2 more.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
We should just immediately segway into the Marvel Civil War game after this phase...

'Banger as Stark, Shape as Capt. America...

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
No matter who we lynch, we're going to learn a ton more from this night phase then we would from a single lynch at this point.

Then why won't you let it go.

Your the one threatening the no lynch..

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
in fact:

change vote: Shape

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
ANYWAY, let's leave this derailment.

Now let's look at another bit of logic.

Either A) Shape lied and did false roleclaim or B) Shape was honest

So if A then see my list about why it would be a dumb move to roleclaim an ambigious, frightening role like Danny

If B then Shape can't be Sylar.

I think we have enough people online to lynch Wallbanger if people stop debating whether Danny would be town or scum.

We also have enough people online to lynch Shape.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
ANYWAY, let's leave this derailment.

Now let's look at another bit of logic.

Either A) Shape lied and did false roleclaim or B) Shape was honest

So if A then see my list about why it would be a dumb move to roleclaim an ambigious, frightening role like Danny

If B then Shape can't be Sylar.

I think we have enough people online to lynch Wallbanger if people stop debating whether Danny would be town or scum.

You do realize who bad you look if Shape is scum, right? That derailment is a logical point. No change your vote away from someone who hasn't defended themself, to someone who claimed a logically scummy role.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
I am going to change vote:TheShape

There seems to be much more logic in him being scum rather than Banger and with the looks of things we will be able to get a lynch on him. Back to original choice.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
The Shape: 8 (gonvick, blackphoenix, the aussie, bluestar, cyberkitten01, astil I effin rule, masterded)
foolinc: 2 (the shape, the rock 13)
Wallbanger: 8 (praguepride, glotnot, ford, trypio, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, mjdgoldeneye, foolinc, Undertaker66)

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:44 PM
No matter who we lynch, we're going to learn a ton more from this night phase then we would from a single lynch at this point.

Which is what i've been saying all along so there was no need for you to confuse the issue when we only needed one more vote on Shape....

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:45 PM
Can I just say this is the most arguing over a lynch that I have ever heard. It's hilarious.

If there is something solid anyone has to confirm Shape, I'd advise to do it now.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:45 PM
That was

Change Vote : The Shape

ford
07-27-2008, 09:45 PM
Unvote

Vote: Shape

I'd say we're committed now to Shape. Even if he's not Sylar, I don't think Danny would be town, neutral maybe, but either way.

The knowledge we gain from this lynch will be more important than the knowledge we gain from Wallbanger's.

I'd still be willing to vote for wallbanger, but the tide's turned, and y'know, best to let the guy try to defend himself post vacation, if possible.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:46 PM
We also have enough people online to lynch Shape.

QFT

This is the key issue. We don't know if Shape is lying or not. He might not be Danny at all. All of that is speculation.

What I do know, now, is that the people on Shape are more persistent than the people on Wallbanger.

So, the deciding issue is, do we want to lynch someone? If so, Shape is the person that we seem to have the best chance of lynching.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:46 PM
You do realize who bad you look if Shape is scum, right? That derailment is a logical point. No change your vote away from someone who hasn't defended themself, to someone who claimed a logically scummy role.

I've already been exposed as an investigator. My time is limited as is.

I'm putting all my marbles on Wallbanger. If I'm wrong, whatever. But at this point it looks like it's going to be a no lynch. I don't think either side has 6 people willing to flip.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:46 PM
Which is what i've been saying all along so there was no need for you to confuse the issue when we only needed one more vote on Shape....

Taker? You're on the Banger train?

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssss. ................

Change vote: The Shape

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Here's a deal... If you guys get Shape within 1, and I'll hammer if at least 3 people on Shape directly tell me to lynch him...

The satisfaction I get if they're wrong will be worth it... (Even if the disappointment will be immeasurable...)

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:47 PM
QFT

This is the key issue. We don't know if Shape is lying or not. He might not be Danny at all. All of that is speculation.

What I do know, now, is that the people on Shape are more persistent than the people on Wallbanger.

So, the deciding issue is, do we want to lynch someone? If so, Shape is the person that we seem to have the best chance of lynching.

ford, jbergey, and myself already have.

I think UT will, and foolinc will as well.

Just need one more.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Vote is now

Shape: 8
Wallbanger: 6
Foolinc: 2

ford
07-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Prague... there's no way Shape is lying to us to cover his being Duchoveny, is there?

Because I could see that gambit. Then again, why wait till now to change votes on him.

Anyway... [Human Giantesq] Let's go!

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssss. ................

Change vote: The Shape

make that 4 (UT, jbergey, ford, d_w_w all switched).

2 more.

foolinc
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
Ok, back to the guy I thought was scummier in the first place.

Change Vote: The Shape

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
Taker? You're on the Banger train?

I'm on the train with the most votes. CHOO-CHOOOOOOOOO!

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
But it doesn't HAVE to be a no lynch.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:48 PM
Here's a deal... If you guys get Shape within 1, and I'll hammer if at least 3 people on Shape directly tell me to lynch him...

The satisfaction I get if they're wrong will be worth it... (Even if the disappointment will be immeasurable...)

Why are you THAT sure? If you have something COME OUT WITH IT?

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Updated:
Shape: 11
Wallbanger: 5
foolinc: 2

**** it. I'm going on record and saying that this is a mistake.

Anyway, parties over guys, switch to Shape.

Vote: Shape

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:49 PM
12 on Shape by my count.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:49 PM
By my count:

The Shape: 13

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
mjd, I can stand my pride being hurt if I'm wrong. So, vote to lynch Shape.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
Why are you THAT sure? If you have something COME OUT WITH IT?

I have NO factual reason to believe Shape is Danny. I'm just stubborn, and, if you didn't see me mention it, Crychon basically confirmed he liked Unleashed to me before the game started.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
Updated:
Shape: 11
Wallbanger: 5
foolinc: 2

**** it. I'm going on record and saying that this is a mistake.

Anyway, parties over guys, switch to Shape.

Vote: Shape

Is what ford said true?

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
Change Vote: Wallbanger

.... just screwing with ya

Change Vote: The Shape

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:50 PM
We need a lynch. It is a mistake, Shape isn't Sylar, but mjd, vote for Shape.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:51 PM
I have NO factual reason to believe Shape is Danny. I'm just stubborn, and, if you didn't see me mention it, Crychon basically confirmed he liked Unleashed to me before the game started.

Well, he has a great taste in movies then.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:51 PM
you took your partner off the list before giving it to us... right?

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
I've put too much water in this Absinthe. :(

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
Updated:
Shape: 11
Wallbanger: 5
foolinc: 2

**** it. I'm going on record and saying that this is a mistake.

Anyway, parties over guys, switch to Shape.

Vote: Shape

So what if we're wrong? Due to the plan we should be able to figure out who IS Sylar. That's why there is a plan. For all any of us know it isn't Banger or Shape, however I've not trusted Shape for a while now. Think of all the false claims though, everyone has "fit" and has been something Crychon likes or could have included.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
by the by, Where is Crychon.

Probably laughing his ass off...

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
Well, he has a great taste in movies then.

If you're willing to listen to your broken logic and discard my real life example, you must be scum or not thinking straight...

Change Vote: The Shape

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
by the by, Where is Crychon.

Probably laughing his ass off...

or crying that he has to sort out all the votes and vote changes

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
I am 99.99% sure that when we lynch Shape, all we'll get is

You lynched Danny, convention aligned domesticated dog.

Lot of info there.

While Wallbanger is a complete mystery. if we lynch him, mystery is over.

ford
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
you took your partner off the list before giving it to us... right?

Oh yes. He did say that, as to not draw attention to him.

I just wanted to make sure. That at least leaves me feeling a little better, because perhaps we can get more information from him in order to help us out tomorrow.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
or crying that he has to sort out all the votes and vote changes

LOL

I still think we need 1 more vote correct?

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
If you're willing to listen to your broken logic and discard my real life example, you must be scum or not thinking straight...

Change Vote: The Shape

Have you seen the movie?

Crychon
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
I think this is right, let me know please.

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 14 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix)
Wallbanger: 4 Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio, mjdgoldeneye)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:54 PM
I am 99.99% sure that when we lynch Shape, all we'll get is

You lynched Danny, convention aligned domesticated dog.

Lot of info there.

While Wallbanger is a complete mystery. if we lynch him, mystery is over.

Did you forget about the whole jailing people and so on thing?

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:54 PM
I am 99.99% sure that when we lynch Shape, all we'll get is

You lynched Danny, convention aligned domesticated dog.

Lot of info there.

While Wallbanger is a complete mystery. if we lynch him, mystery is over.

The mystery could also be over if he got a chance to defend himself, something you're not willing to grant him apparently.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:54 PM
I think this is right, let me know please.

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 14 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix)
Wallbanger: 4 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio, mjdgoldeneye)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

switch mjd over to Shape.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:54 PM
Have you seen the movie?

No, but I wikied like mad today, and I still don't buy him being scum...

Well, I don't buy him being scum, NOW...

If I had a nickel for every human attack dog attack we've seen... I'd have NO nickels...

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:55 PM
I am 99.99% sure that when we lynch Shape, all we'll get is

You lynched Danny, convention aligned domesticated dog.

Lot of info there.

While Wallbanger is a complete mystery. if we lynch him, mystery is over.

If we lynch Shape and he's Danny the Dog then Wallbanger goes in prison, if there's no Sylar kill during the nightphase then we know it's Wallbanger. Simple.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:55 PM
Were we already at 14?

So much drama for nothing...

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
If you're willing to listen to your broken logic and discard my real life example, you must be scum or not thinking straight...

Change Vote: The Shape

And the hammer falls

The Shape: 14 (gonvick, blackphoenix, the aussie, bluestar, cyberkitten01 astil, I effin rule,masterded, jbergey_2005, Undertaker66, d_w_w, praguepride ,foolinc,mjdgoldeneye)
foolinc: 2 (the shape,the rock 13)
Wallbanger: 2 (glotnot, trypio)

So now let's decide how we're going to block the other four members of the list

Wallbanger - jail?
Cyberkitten will NK roolinc to test out both of their abilities

I forgot the rest

Crychon
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
Ok, is this right, then?

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, Astil, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
If we lynch Shape and he's Danny the Dog then Wallbanger goes in prison, if there's no Sylar kill during the nightphase then we know it's Wallbanger. Simple.

Because Sylar is so easily arrestable... :rolleyes:

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
No, but I wikied like mad today, and I still don't buy him being scum...

Well, I don't buy him being scum, NOW...

If I had a nickel for every human attack dog attack we've seen... I'd have NO nickels...

If you saw the movie, and saw how utterly helpless Danny is without his mob boss, you'd understand where I'm coming from.

The theme of the movie is becoming human. If Danny was a good guy, I don't think Crychon would betray the theme by calling him a "domesticated dog". That is my logic.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
I don't understand why A) no one can believe it to be a false claim; or B) why everyone assumes he would be in the write up. Perhaps he's a mafia member who isn't the hitman? There are a million reasons why you wouldn't see a "dog" attack in the write up.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Ok, is this right, then?

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, Astil, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

yes

Crychon
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
yes

Ok then.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Ok, is this right, then?

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, Astil, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Astil is there twice...

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Ok, is this right, then?

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, Astil, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

that seems correct to me.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Ok, is this right, then?

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, Astil, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

You have Astil listed twice.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Because Sylar is so easily arrestable... :rolleyes:

Our jailer could be Superman for all you know.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
Because Sylar is so easily arrestable... :rolleyes:

and if our arrester (ford?) is killed when trying to arrest, wanna place bets on who Sylar is?

If ford cannot find Banger, wanna place bets on who Sylar is?

masterded
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
yes

Astil is there twice...

that seems correct to me.

Haha

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
except what MJD just pointed out.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 09:58 PM
Doesn't change anything. Shape got 14 votes and mjdgoldeneye was the hammer vote.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 09:58 PM
Because Sylar is so easily arrestable... :rolleyes:

lol If an arrest is attempted on someone and they show Sylar like qualities...then won't we know anyway?

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:58 PM
Ok, is this right, then?

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, Astil, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

I am SO awesome.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 09:58 PM
unless he takes more than 14 to lynch.

Crychon
07-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Oops, 2 Astils.

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Astil
07-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Oops, 2 Astils.

It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 15 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Should only be 14.

The Aussie
07-27-2008, 10:00 PM
Scary thing about Wallbanger is that the man knows how to play a killer PGO, you'd think he would draw much more attention to himself if he cannot be killed during the night phase.


I'm worried, I really am.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:00 PM
unless he takes more than 14 to lynch.

If that's the case and it isn't the result of a manipulator...then he certainly isn't Danny.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:00 PM
Doesn't change anything. Shape got 14 votes and mjdgoldeneye was the hammer vote.

Should only be 14.

Nope, count the names... The count was wrong before...

The Aussie
07-27-2008, 10:00 PM
I am SO awesome.
You awesomeness cannot be contained to just one person?

Crychon
07-27-2008, 10:01 PM
Should only be 14.

No, it's 15, I just had your name down twice. I fixed it in the count before that, but not on my notepad.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 10:01 PM
Isn't the plan...

ford arrests WB
CK targets foolinc
Jberg targets ck
D_W_W investigates slimjim.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:01 PM
To quote a fellow Fox network father.

"And now we play the waiting game"

foolinc
07-27-2008, 10:01 PM
Isn't the plan...

ford arrests WB
CK targets foolinc
Jberg targets ck
D_W_W investigates slimjim.

I believe this is correct.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:02 PM
No, it's 15, I just had your name down twice. I fixed it in the count before that, but not on my notepad.

ok, cool then.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:02 PM
d_w_w - probably not sylar because he saved me
ford - probably not sylar because he's jailer
blackphoenix - maybe not sylar... we've never really investigated her other then assume that due to her opening posts that she's 5th element
foolinc - claimed John McClane
Undertaker666 - smoochie
Sprinklefurball - lynched
trypio - vouched for by someone
Wallbanger - most likely Sylar (editor comment)
The Shape - lynched
BlueStar - vouched for
cyberkitten01 - claimed townie NK
Slim Jim - claimed unknown office character

So here's the list, bold are our prime suspects.

So cyberkitten01 will try to NK foolinc to confirm both their roles. ford will attempt to jail Wallbanger. Finally, whoever else has a roleblock or whatever can target Slim Jim and we'll see what happens tonight.

The Aussie
07-27-2008, 10:02 PM
To quote a fellow Fox network father.

"And now we play the waiting game"
I'm bored.

Let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:03 PM
What exactly did I miss that makes you so sure Banger is Sylar?

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Scary thing about Wallbanger is that the man knows how to play a killer PGO, you'd think he would draw much more attention to himself if he cannot be killed during the night phase.


I'm worried, I really am.

Hello... that's what I said but everyone was like "nooo, Danny might be scum so let's lynch him, completely derailing the topic from "who is Sylar?"

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:03 PM
What exactly did I miss that makes you so sure Banger is Sylar?

Because Stone Cold said so.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:04 PM
Has lynch been achieved?

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:04 PM
What exactly did I miss that makes you so sure Banger is Sylar?

The fact that everyone and their mothers are vouching for him even though he hasn't posted a single time.

Normally an SK is on his own so no one vouches for them when they get spotlighted, but everyone is vouching for Wallbanger it seems like, and because he is "on vacation" instead of in game stuff.

THAT makes me nervous.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:05 PM
The fact that everyone and their mothers are vouching for him even though he hasn't posted a single time.

Normally an SK is on his own so no one vouches for them when they get spotlighted, but everyone is vouching for Wallbanger it seems like, and because he is "on vacation" instead of in game stuff.

THAT makes me nervous.

He's a great town player. I, for one, don't want to lose him because he was on vaca and couldn't defend himself.

Has anyone checked his last logon?

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:06 PM
Has lynch been achieved?

^- above statement, with more emphasis.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:06 PM
The fact that everyone and their mothers are vouching for him even though he hasn't posted a single time.

Normally an SK is on his own so no one vouches for them when they get spotlighted, but everyone is vouching for Wallbanger it seems like, and because he is "on vacation" instead of in game stuff.

THAT makes me nervous.

Saying someone is on vacation isn't vouching for them, saying they are town is vouching for them.

So the reason you are so sure that Banger is Sylar is because he is on vacation and multiple people don't want to vote off a guy who hasn't had a chance to defend himself?

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:06 PM
If anyone out there hasn't voted, vote for the lynch.

There could be weird business afoot.

Crychon
07-27-2008, 10:07 PM
Has lynch been achieved?

Have I said it was?

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Have I said it was?

Indeed you have not.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
The fact that lynch hasn't been achived leaves me confident we have choosen the correct guy.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Have I said it was?

Either there are some shenanigans or someone most definitely ISN'T Danny.

More votes please.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
If anyone out there hasn't voted, vote for the lynch.

There could be weird business afoot.

QFT x 1000

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
JackalBane, vote for The Shape!

foolinc
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Have I said it was?

I hate vote manipulators!

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:08 PM
Votes, The Shape, now!

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:09 PM
The fact that lynch hasn't been achived leaves me confident we have choosen the correct guy.

Don't be. It could mean it's Sylar, it could mean that a certain person that list, that I can identify, is playing with our votes.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:09 PM
Do It! Do It Naugh!

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:09 PM
The fact that lynch hasn't been achived leaves me confident we have choosen the correct guy.

????

I was just thinking, if Danny is lynched but he's scum, that means everyone was right :D

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:10 PM
If it's due to the person I think it is, we need one more vote.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:10 PM
About 20 minutes people.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:11 PM
And by the way, for those of you that haven't picked up on who this...

I have to say, I have a half a mind to out them, for using their ability like this on a vote to try to get Sylar/narrow down the list.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:12 PM
And by the way, for those of you that haven't picked up on who this...

I have to say, I have a half a mind to out them, for using their ability like this on a vote to try to get Sylar/narrow down the list.

If it isn't a passive ability you should most certainly out them.

Is it that they don't have a vote, have a negative vote, or can they change a vote? If it's the latter, they could be scum.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 10:12 PM
Jackalbane, vote for The Shape!!!!!!!!

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:12 PM
There's an ability that makes them need more votes for the lynch?

Is that usually a townie or a mafia ability? Or are people messing with the vote?

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:13 PM
If it isn't a passive ability you should most certainly out them.

Is it that they don't have a vote, have a negative vote, or can they change a vote? If it's the latter, they could be scum.

They can make their vote count as either -2, -1, +2, or +3.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Jackalbane, vote for The Shape!!!!!!!!

This. Do it.

blackphoenix
07-27-2008, 10:13 PM
I NEED MORE POOOOWAH

If you haven't voted please vote on The Shape, we have 20 minutes left.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:13 PM
We need your vote ASAP Jackalbane.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 10:13 PM
There's an ability that makes them need more votes for the lynch?

Is that usually a townie or a mafia ability? Or are people messing with the vote?

Can be both.

foolinc
07-27-2008, 10:14 PM
There's an ability that makes them need more votes for the lynch?

Is that usually a townie or a mafia ability? Or are people messing with the vote?

That's usually a mafia ability, but as we saw in Heroes Mafia a townie could have it. Though I'd doubt the person doing it this time around is a member of the town.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:14 PM
I NEED MORE POOOOWAH

If you haven't voted please vote on The Shape, we have 20 minutes left.

MOOOOOOOOOOOORE POOOOOOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAH!
VOTE FOR SHAPE!

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:14 PM
Does this mean that if everyone switches over to Wallbanger that the vote would go through?

eh... eh... see what I did there :D

JackalBane
07-27-2008, 10:14 PM
Vote: The Shape

Twas catching up in the thread, but I guess this is more important.

The Aussie
07-27-2008, 10:14 PM
http://whall.org/blog/files/lolcats-finish-him.jpg

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:14 PM
They can make their vote count as either -2, -1, +2, or +3.

Lets see how this plays out, if its a no lynch or he's scum, definitely out them.

But I admit, whoever is using this ability right now isn't playing to help the town, be them scum or not.

Crychon
07-27-2008, 10:15 PM
It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 16 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye, JackalBane)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Correct?

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:15 PM
ohpleaseworkohpleaseworkohpleasework

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:16 PM
All is lost...

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:16 PM
It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 16 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye, JackalBane)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Correct?

Think it's 16?

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:16 PM
It is now day phase five. You have until 11:30 PM EST Sunday, July 27th (4:30 AM Monday, July 28th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

The Shape: 16 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye, JackalBane)
Wallbanger: 3 [B]Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

Correct?

should have 16 now

Crychon
07-27-2008, 10:16 PM
I'll assume it's correct.

Lynch has been achieved. A writeup will be up whenever I can finish it.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:17 PM
Yes, 16 i correct.

i effin rule
07-27-2008, 10:17 PM
Here goes nothing.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:17 PM
I'll assume it's correct.

Lynch has been achieved. A writeup will be up whenever I can finish it.

Just to clarify, Did it take 15 or 16 to achieve the lynch?

foolinc
07-27-2008, 10:17 PM
That was close. Now let's hope we get scum of some kind.

d_w_w
07-27-2008, 10:18 PM
Ok. I'm out. Be back in a half hour or so.

The Aussie
07-27-2008, 10:18 PM
Just to clarify, Did it take 15 or 16 to achieve the lynch?
16. Why do you think we were abusing JackalBane?

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:18 PM
I'll assume it's correct.

Lynch has been achieved. A writeup will be up whenever I can finish it.

*faints*
Ok, to everyone , good phase. Handshakes all around and lets all be buddy and pals. If I'm wrong I'll own up to it. Nice arguing with you all.

:)

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:19 PM
16. Why do you think we were abusing JackalBane?

Well initially he had 15 and said lynch was achieved then it was switched so I am sure it is 16 but wanted to be sure.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 10:20 PM
This is almost as bad as waiting for TEW '08 to be released....

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:21 PM
*faints*
Ok, to everyone , good phase. Handshakes all around and lets all be buddy and pals. If I'm wrong I'll own up to it. Nice arguing with you all.

:)

If you're wrong, I'll do my happy "I told you so dance" before Sylar decapitates me.

If I'm wrong, I'll never trust my gut for the rest of this game. Any time I come forward, I'll have evidence backing it.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:21 PM
IDK whether I'd like to be right or for him to be scum at this point...

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:21 PM
This is almost as bad as waiting for TEW '08 to be released....

QFT

Actually, i'm playing '08 While hitting refresh every day. I don't have time for my dynasty anymore but I'm still playing the game through.

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:22 PM
IDK whether I'd like to be right or for him to be scum at this point...

well hopefully your ego will let you enjoy the moment with the town when he is scum.

The Aussie
07-27-2008, 10:22 PM
I'm off to class now.

Fingers Crossed, Eh?

foolinc
07-27-2008, 10:23 PM
IDK whether I'd like to be right or for him to be scum at this point...

Either way, we will be a lot closer to catching Sylar and the rest of the scum group(s) with the results of this day and the following night.

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:23 PM
well hopefully your ego will let you enjoy the moment with the town when he is scum.

When? Mighty [SURPRISINGLY BANNED WORD HERE]y yourself...

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:24 PM
Either way, we will be a lot closer to catching Sylar and the rest of the scum group(s) with the results of this day and the following night.

QFT We did a lotta good today.

JackalBane
07-27-2008, 10:25 PM
I don't know what to think at the moment. I just hope we hit scum/Sylar. I wouldn't be surprised and yet I would. It's very 50-50 at the moment.

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 10:25 PM
Modkill: Crychon

For not typing fast enough. :p

JackalBane
07-27-2008, 10:25 PM
QFT We did a lotta good today.
Indeed.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:26 PM
At the very least I made things much more interesting then just having Shape get killed X hours ago :D

masterded
07-27-2008, 10:27 PM
If we hit sylar or scum great. If we didn't mafia is a team game he died for the greater good and lets move on and win it for ourselfs and him (and to the scum reading this you're goin down).

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:27 PM
When? Mighty [SURPRISINGLY BANNED WORD HERE]y yourself...

I'm just messin with you. I am just trying to be optimistic.

foolinc
07-27-2008, 10:28 PM
Modkill: Crychon

For not typing fast enough. :p

Now that the tension is over (for now), here is what I should have said when Shape said I was Sylar.

"Bzzzt. Sorry Hans, wrong guess. Would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change?"

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:30 PM
I'm just messin with you. I am just trying to be optimistic.

And I'm just being silly too...

:p

Crychon
07-27-2008, 10:31 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/HollywoodHorror.jpg





INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY - DAY FIVE

The crowd had an objective today, and that was to eliminate the threat known as Sylar. They had the list, and they had narrowed it down, and they were ready to eliminate him.

Fingers were pointed. Tempers were flared.

“It’s him!”

“No, it’s him!”

And then they focused on one. One poor confused man with downcast eyes. He wasn’t sure to react, when the crowd started to close in on him.

“Who are you?!”

The man looked at the ground, and shyly replied.

“My name… Is Danny…”

The crowd put their heads together, and they came to a consensus.

“Alright, we’ll buy it for now.”

They went around, and questioned other suspects, and got what they wanted out of them, and then started to pressure another.

“What about him?”

They walked up to him, and prodded him a bit, with no response.

“No, it couldn’t be him.”

And they returned the man with the downcast eyes. The man who really didn’t want any part in all of this aggression.

“C’mon, you’re Sylar, admit it!”

The crowd started to surround him.

“My name is… Danny…”

Tears started steaming down his cheek, when the noose was put around his neck. They were just about to hoist him up, when he felt her steely grasp around his wrist. The crowd tried and tried, but they just couldn’t get him up.

“GET HIM!”

“WE NEED HELP!”

“JUST ONE MORE!”

This man hadn’t felt this much aggression in a long time, and he really wasn’t sure to react to it, but he was glad there was a helping hand around.

And then a man came and pushed the woman who had a hold of him over.

“We gonna do this?”

And they did. They hoisted the man up, and after a few seconds, his struggle ended with the snap of his neck. This really wasn’t what they wanted.

-------------------

Final Vote Count:
The Shape: 16 (gonvick, The Aussie, BlueStar, cyberkitten01, Astil, masterded, i effin rule, d_w_w, jbergey_2005, ford, Undertaker666, foolinc, praguepride, blackphoenix, mjdgoldeneye, JackalBane)
Wallbanger: 3 Slim Jim, Glotnot, trypio)
foolinc: 2 (The Shape, The Rock 13)

With 26 players remaining, it is 14 to lynch.

-------------------

The Shape is dead, he was Danny, Convention Aligned Domesticated Dog

Casualties:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/Danny2.jpg

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:32 PM
I'm not going to say anything...

As much as I'd like to, it's not a win by any means...

Undertaker666
07-27-2008, 10:33 PM
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/2453.gif

Told you we should've lynched Wallbanger....

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:33 PM
WHO WAS RIGHT! THAT'S RIGHT! ME!

Alright, I got it out of my system.

praguepride
07-27-2008, 10:35 PM
Also, that write up makes me feel very sad for Danny

:'(

mjdgoldeneye
07-27-2008, 10:35 PM
Here's some good news: Danny WAS controlled by a bad guy for a good length of the movie...

Now, that's something we don't have to potentially correct later on...

jbergey_2005
07-27-2008, 10:35 PM
Yup you guys were right as far as The Shape is concerned. We should have followed you.

JackalBane
07-27-2008, 10:35 PM
And I'm sure the 20 posts of "Vote for Shape" didn't help me at all.

So... yeah. Hopefully we can have a helpful night instead.

Astil
07-27-2008, 10:36 PM
I'm not going to say anything...

As much as I'd like to, it's not a win by any means...
You were right
WHO WAS RIGHT! THAT'S RIGHT! ME!

Alright, I got it out of my system.

You were right.

We still have this nioght phase. Lets do this.