The Official Hollywood Horror Mafia Game Thread [Archive] - Page 18

Crychon

08-11-2008, 08:43 PM

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INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, HALLWAY – NIGHT ELEVEN

The man was walking down the hallway, he realized he was going the wrong way, and turned around. He was quickly tackled, and knocked from his feet. His assailant pounded him mercilessly, until eventually the man underneath asked him to stop.

ATTACKED MAN
“Come on, stop, STOP!”

The attacker let up, and the attacked man got to his feet. He smiled. He hit his attacker with a sucker punch.

ATTACKED MAN
“That’s what you get!”

He smiled, and helped his attacker up.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, BAR – NIGHT ELEVEN

The man had had several attempts on his life, and decided what better way to deal with another probable attempt than to drink the night away at the bar?

The man sat alone at the bar with a large bottle of rum, and was singing to himself, and having a good time.

The masked man entered the bar, and the man who was drinking looked up, and wasn’t really surprised.

MASKED MAN
“Aren’t you supposed to be dead?”

The man looked down at himself, confused.

DRUNK MAN
“Am I not?”

He shrugged.

DRUNK MAN
“My mistake…”

He started to walk out of the room, he tried the door… Locked.

MASKED MAN
“I’m afraid… You’re not going to get away that easily this time…”

The drunk man nodded, and looked for another way to escape the room, he smashed a bottle of rum on the floor, and shot it, hoping it’d start a fire, however, due to his inebriated state, he missed completely. He sighed.

DRUNK MAN
“Why’s the rum gone?”

Then, before he said another word, before he had another chance to escape, a throwing dagger entered his chest. He gasped, and looked down at it.

DRUNK MAN
“This… Complicates things.”

Wallbanger finally fell to the ground, gasping for breath, the masked man drew another dagger, and a rose from his coat.

MASKED MAN
“Just to make sure…”

He slit the man’s throat, and left him bleeding on the ground, lifeless. He left his trademark rose next to the body.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, HOTEL ROOM – NIGHT ELEVEN

The room was dark, and it was hard to see how many people were in the room, their heads were bowed.

MAN
“We lost a space monkey tonight… But in death, he has a name… His name… Was Jack Sparrow.”

MAN TWO
“His name was Jack Sparrow…”

The people in the room continued to chant this numerous times throughout the rest of the night.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY – MORNING TWELVE

The crowd gathered in the room, both amazed, and happy with the fact that they had finally rid themselves of the captain.

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Wallbanger is dead, he was Captain Jack Sparrow, Project Mayhem Aligned Charismatic Captain

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Casualties:
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Crychon

08-11-2008, 08:49 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 12:10 AM

Great another recruitment...

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 12:11 AM

And the recruit could be anyone...Dude's buddy, Hiro....

Taker, anything interesting to be seen out there?

Slim - did you investigate masterded by any chance?

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 12:35 AM

Good to see Jack Sparrow's FINALLY dead! But does that mean he was the recruiter and he got a final recuitment in before Cyberkitten killed him, or that he wasn't the recruiter after all? Bah, I hate cults.

And the recruit could be anyone...Dude's buddy, Hiro....

Taker, anything interesting to be seen out there?

Slim - did you investigate masterded by any chance?

I followed Gonvick, going on the theory that Walter is a bit mentally unstable, but he didn't go anywhere. That in itself doesn't prove his innocence, it just proves he's not the recruiter.

1. masterded (Duncan MacLeod - Highlander TV show)
6. gonvick (Walter - The Dude's buddy from Big Lebowski)
13. Astil (Bluth guy - Arrested Development)
19. trypio (The Dude - Big Lebowski)
21. foolinc (John McClane - Die Hard)
27. BlueStar (Miho - Sin City)
29. cyberkitten01 (V - V for Vendetta)
31. RKO_HBK (Hiro Nakumura - Heroes)
34. Slim Jim (Dwight - The Office)
36. Undertaker666 (v2.0) (Ron Burgundy - Anchorman)

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 12:38 AM

Best guess, gonvick got recruited (didn't Steve Buscumi yell "stop stop" in the Big Lebowski or some other movie). Who's recruiting?

I can only think of masterded to be honest....

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 12:40 AM

Who made a run down of the recruitments some time ago?

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 12:53 AM

Best guess, gonvick got recruited (didn't Steve Buscumi yell "stop stop" in the Big Lebowski or some other movie). Who's recruiting?

I can only think of masterded to be honest....

Can't think of the Steve Buscemi quote you're thinking of. But I do remember Walter about to go postal with his gun and beating the crap out of the wrong car (which was hilarious! :D) so I think he's a likely recruitable/recruited candidate.

Not sure about masterded, he didn't go anywhere when I followed him in the past, but i'll have to check back when that was because if Tyler Durden was still around at that time then it could just mean that the torch has been passed.

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 01:05 AM

cyberkitten01

08-12-2008, 01:37 AM

So from the night phase with the two guys talking at the end, is that the recruiter and the new recruit, or is there two and the new recruit?

Scary stuff

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 01:38 AM

I followed masterded in the nightphase following the dayphase we'd lynched Tyler Durden and he didn't go anywhere. That being said, there also wasn't any recruitment on that same night, most likely due to losing their leader, so it's possible that he's the recruiter.

I think IER then became the lead recruiter and due to him getting lynched cult lost another night phase. Which would explain why no recruitment happened when Captain Jack was attacked the first time.

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 01:39 AM

So from the night phase with the two guys talking at the end, is that the recruiter and the new recruit, or is there two and the new recruit?

Scary stuff

I'm guessing that's the new recruit talking.

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 01:44 AM

If I'm fight club recruiting, I'd pick a member who's ready for a fight. Correct?

Obvioous choices: myself, foolinc, cyber, masterded.

Picking Miho would be too risky..the write-up would suggest a female got recruited.

I don't think Cyber has been recruited as this write-up would consist of Cyber getting recruited, then killing, then standing over the new recruit....makes no sense.

Foolinc is pretty much confirmed his character...I think.

Begging the question: why not recruit Masterded? If his claim is true, he can't be killed at night and that's worked wonders for the recruited Jack Sparrow.
Possible answer: Masterded is not who he claims to be.

gonvick

08-12-2008, 01:44 AM

Best guess, gonvick got recruited (didn't Steve Buscumi yell "stop stop" in the Big Lebowski or some other movie). Who's recruiting?

I can only think of masterded to be honest....

Nope, I wasn't recruited. The only thing I can offer in support of that is that I don't think the write up fits the Walter character. Maybe I'm not remembering the film well enough, but I don't think Walter is the sucker punching type.

The person that was recruited is someone who would sucker punch an opponent. I don't think most of the remaining claimed characters fit that description very well. The one that stands out to me is Ron Burgundy. He strikes me as the sort that would sucker punch someone and then taunt them. At least more so than the rest.

As for who's recruiting, it hard to say. Hopefully it was Wallbanger before he died. Otherwise it's whoever was recruited on Night 9.

cyberkitten01

08-12-2008, 01:54 AM

Gah! I don't know! :confused:

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 01:58 AM

At this point, I don't really care who got recruited...I want to know who's recruiting.

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 02:24 AM

So from the night phase with the two guys talking at the end, is that the recruiter and the new recruit, or is there two and the new recruit?

Scary stuff

What concerns me is, "The people in the room continued to chant this numerous times throughout the rest of the night", that would suggest there may be more than just Man 1 and Man 2.

If I'm fight club recruiting, I'd pick a member who's ready for a fight. Correct?

Obvioous choices: myself, foolinc, cyber, masterded.

Picking Miho would be too risky..the write-up would suggest a female got recruited.

I don't think Cyber has been recruited as this write-up would consist of Cyber getting recruited, then killing, then standing over the new recruit....makes no sense.

Foolinc is pretty much confirmed his character...I think.

Begging the question: why not recruit Masterded? If his claim is true, he can't be killed at night and that's worked wonders for the recruited Jack Sparrow.
Possible answer: Masterded is not who he claims to be.

If I was the recruiter i'd have recruited Foolinc, he's proven his ability and it's obvious that cult members retain their abilities (damn you, Sparrow!). Having another member with a bullet-proof ability would be beneficial to the cult so Cyberkitten couldn't take him out at night. With masterded not having proven his ability, the cult wouldn't know what ability they'd gain by recruiting him.

Nope, I wasn't recruited. The only thing I can offer in support of that is that I don't think the write up fits the Walter character. Maybe I'm not remembering the film well enough, but I don't think Walter is the sucker punching type.

The person that was recruited is someone who would sucker punch an opponent. I don't think most of the remaining claimed characters fit that description very well. The one that stands out to me is Ron Burgundy. He strikes me as the sort that would sucker punch someone and then taunt them. At least more so than the rest.

As for who's recruiting, it hard to say. Hopefully it was Wallbanger before he died. Otherwise it's whoever was recruited on Night 9.

We were suggesting that you might've been recruited in the past, not last night. Interesting that you jumped to that conclusion though....

I know nothing about the show, Arrested Development, can anyone inform me more on Astil's character? Would he be recruitable?

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 02:37 AM

Perhaps we should wonder who is definitely not recruited yet...

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 02:50 AM

Perhaps we should wonder who is definitely not recruited yet...

I think that can only be narrowed down to female characters.

gonvick

08-12-2008, 03:00 AM

We were suggesting that you might've been recruited in the past, not last night. Interesting that you jumped to that conclusion though....

Really? I figured Blue's point about Steve Buscemi yelling "Stop, stop" in the film was in reference to the latest recruit, since that's the one where the phrase "Stop, stop", would be relevent.

But if you're considering that I might be the Night 9 recruit, I would point out that the person recruited that night was looking for someone. I don't target anyone, so I don't think it fits me at all.

So we're looking for a male that has a target. So the obvious probable recruit suspects would be:

Slim Jim
Undertaker666
cyberkitten01

And I don't recall if Astil ever revealed his ability, so I'm not sure if he makes the list or not. Of course, this is a bit dependent on people having been truthful, which isn't a certainty, but it's the best I've got to go on right now.

So I'm thinking there's a fair likelyhood that Slim Jim was recruited. There might be some question whether Dwight could be recruited, but I can't rule it out. And with his ability he's an obvious choice to try to recruit.

I know nothing about the show, Arrested Development, can anyone inform me more on Astil's character? Would he be recruitable?

He's not the sort you would expect to put up a fight. Out of the characters left I'd rank him as the second least likely to be recruitable. But that doesn't really mean much, as I don't know how restrictive the cult's recruiting is.

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 03:47 AM

Really? I figured Blue's point about Steve Buscemi yelling "Stop, stop" in the film was in reference to the latest recruit, since that's the one where the phrase "Stop, stop", would be relevent.

True, but i'd said that you didn't go anywhere last night, which means you weren't wandering the hallways, so last night you couldn't be the recruiter or the recruitee. That doesn't mean you haven't been recruited previously though.

But if you're considering that I might be the Night 9 recruit, I would point out that the person recruited that night was looking for someone. I don't target anyone, so I don't think it fits me at all.

So we're looking for a male that has a target. So the obvious probable recruit suspects would be:

Slim Jim
Undertaker666
cyberkitten01

1. That's from your point of view. You've claimed that you have no ability other than to talk to Trypio, but for all we know that could false.

2. You've left masterded off the list as we've got no proof that he hasn't got a targetable ability. In fact, there's only you, masterded and Astil that haven't proven anything about your abilities. (i'm excluding Trypio from that because he's The Dude, and he's too awesome to be recruited)

3. It can't be any of the three you've listed. Crychon said i'm not allowed to point out what I know about my Smoochy death so i'm trying to figure out how I can tell you all without breaking the rules. :rolleyes:

gonvick

08-12-2008, 04:13 AM

1. That's from your point of view. You've claimed that you have no ability other than to talk to Trypio, but for all we know that could false.

True, though I do have someone who has seen my role that can vouch for me not having any other abilities. If we can agree that The Dude hasn't been recruited, and thus has no reason to lie, then that should pretty much remove me as a suspect.

2. You've left masterded off the list as we've got no proof that he hasn't got a targetable ability. In fact, there's only you, masterded and Astil that haven't proven anything about your abilities. (i'm excluding Trypio from that because he's The Dude, and he's too awesome to be recruited)

As I said, that list assumes a certain level of thruthfulness from people, and as such is not a certainty. Those are the ones we know fit the criteria. That's not to say that someone hasn't lied.

3. It can't be any of the three you've listed. Crychon said i'm not allowed to point out what I know about my Smoochy death so i'm trying to figure out how I can tell you all without breaking the rules. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure what to make of this. I hope it's true, but it requires me to take you at your word, which is the problem we face with others as well.

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 04:35 AM

True, though I do have someone who has seen my role that can vouch for me not having any other abilities. If we can agree that The Dude hasn't been recruited, and thus has no reason to lie, then that should pretty much remove me as a suspect.

Not entirely though, that's assuming you showed Trypio everything. Once again, it's about trust.

As I said, that list assumes a certain level of thruthfulness from people, and as such is not a certainty. Those are the ones we know fit the criteria. That's not to say that someone hasn't lied.

Indeed, and that's what worries me.

I'm not sure what to make of this. I hope it's true, but it requires me to take you at your word, which is the problem we face with others as well.

If I can find a reference of it happening elsewhere then it wouldn't be breaking the rules, as i'd be talking about someone else rather than my previous role. I'll be a bit busy this morning but i'll look over the nightphases again sometime this afternoon. Bah, it's infuriating that I can't just blurt it out!

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 05:07 AM

Really? I figured Blue's point about Steve Buscemi yelling "Stop, stop" in the film was in reference to the latest recruit, since that's the one where the phrase "Stop, stop", would be relevent.

But if you're considering that I might be the Night 9 recruit, I would point out that the person recruited that night was looking for someone. I don't target anyone, so I don't think it fits me at all.

So we're looking for a male that has a target. So the obvious probable recruit suspects would be:

Slim Jim
Undertaker666
cyberkitten01

And I don't recall if Astil ever revealed his ability, so I'm not sure if he makes the list or not. Of course, this is a bit dependent on people having been truthful, which isn't a certainty, but it's the best I've got to go on right now.

So I'm thinking there's a fair likelyhood that Slim Jim was recruited. There might be some question whether Dwight could be recruited, but I can't rule it out. And with his ability he's an obvious choice to try to recruit.

He's not the sort you would expect to put up a fight. Out of the characters left I'd rank him as the second least likely to be recruitable. But that doesn't really mean much, as I don't know how restrictive the cult's recruiting is.

If those are the suspects, then who's recruiting? I'm left to only one name then...

Vote: masterded

gonvick

08-12-2008, 05:51 AM

Not entirely though, that's assuming you showed Trypio everything. Once again, it's about trust.

If I was recruited into a cult, why would I have lied to Trypio about my role at the beginning of the game, before I was recruited?

If those are the suspects, then who's recruiting? I'm left to only one name then...

Vote: masterded

If one of them were the recruit, then they would have most likely been recruited by IER.

As for the current recruiter, there are three options.

1. Wallbanger recruited before he was killed.

2. The Night 9 recruit took over the recruiting.

3. The cult started with two people, and the second one is doing the recruiting.

It's pretty much a toss up between 1 and 2. And option 3 leaves the glaring question of why there wasn't a recruitment attempt on Night 10.

So I would think that to get the best odds of preventing another recruitment, we should be trying to lynch whoever was recruited on Night 9. So any ideas on who that is would be welcome.

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 06:00 AM

That could be John McClane on N9...

trypio

08-12-2008, 06:19 AM

I'm excluding Trypio from that because he's The Dude, and he's too awesome to be recruited.

Me or my character? :cool:

gonvick

08-12-2008, 06:44 AM

That could be John McClane on N9...

Who would he have been looking for? He claimed to be just bulletproof before that point, so shouldn't be out trying to find anyone. Do you think he was less than truthful about his abilities?

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 06:51 AM

Who would he have been looking for? He claimed to be just bulletproof before that point, so shouldn't be out trying to find anyone. Do you think he was less than truthful about his abilities?

Good point, didn't catch that one...

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 07:01 AM

"INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, HALLWAY – NIGHT NINE

The man was walking quickly down the hallway, looking to find someone. He turned a corner, and was quickly met with a punch in the face, the man continued to pound on the other one for a bit, until the other man started to fight back.

PUNCHING GUY
“You’ve got some fight in you, I like that…”

OTHER GUY
“Yeah… I think I quite like it myself…”

So the N9 recruit has a night ability as he was walking down the hallway. Doesn't seem to indicate that it's Cyberkitten....

Slim? Taker? Who's the most likely?

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 07:10 AM

1. masterded : claims no night ability, semi-confirmed by Taker
6. gonvick : claims no night ability
13. Astil : ???
19. trypio : claims no night ability
21. foolinc : claims no night ability
27. BlueStar : no night ability
29. cyberkitten01 : Vig
31. RKO_HBK : no night ability
34. Slim Jim : night ability
36. Undertaker666 (v2.0) : night ability

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 07:23 AM

Change vote: no vote

gonvick

08-12-2008, 07:25 AM

So the N9 recruit has a night ability as he was walking down the hallway. Doesn't seem to indicate that it's Cyberkitten....

Slim? Taker? Who's the most likely?

I've been leaning towards Slim. I think the write up sounds adequately Dwight-like. And he's one of the roles that would be most beneficial for the cult to recruit.

However, Taker says that he has secret information that it couldn't have been any of those three. And I don't know where that would leave us.

It might be a good idea to find out what Astil's ability is.

Wallbanger

08-12-2008, 08:44 AM

/waves from Davy Jones' locker

Miss me yet?

:cool:

cyberkitten01

08-12-2008, 09:21 AM

At least when Wallbanger was still alive things were simple

foolinc

08-12-2008, 09:32 AM

I hate cults and the Jack Sparrow role SO f'ing much right now. Plus that fact there was a recruitment was pretty shocking as Banger should have been the recruiter. That makes me think someone has gotten away with a fake claim (though cults usually start with one member) because as it was stated before, when the cult leader goes down and the cult continues, the person who was recruited first usually becomes the recruiter.

If there is actually three members of the cult, this day could make or break the game.

/waves from Davy Jones' locker

Miss me yet?

:cool:

No.

Destiny

08-12-2008, 09:52 AM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

cyberkitten01

08-12-2008, 11:19 AM

I've been leaning towards Slim. I think the write up sounds adequately Dwight-like. And he's one of the roles that would be most beneficial for the cult to recruit.

I have a feeling that's who was recruited too

foolinc

08-12-2008, 11:23 AM

I've been leaning towards Slim. I think the write up sounds adequately Dwight-like. And he's one of the roles that would be most beneficial for the cult to recruit.

However, Taker says that he has secret information that it couldn't have been any of those three. And I don't know where that would leave us.

It might be a good idea to find out what Astil's ability is.

If we are going to win, we need to figure the other cult member. We have two kills (lynch and V). So who guess are we going to target?

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 12:07 PM

Slim can be nightkilled, masterded can (if his claim is true) only be daykilled and you, foolinc, can only be daykilled.

Astil - your ability please.

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 01:00 PM

BlueStar

08-12-2008, 01:09 PM

I have a feeling that's who was recruited too

The thing is that if we lynch Slim, we might have a second Culty that can't be killed at night.

cyberkitten01

08-12-2008, 01:28 PM

I see your point. What's more important? Lynching someone who's not night-killable who may be town or getting the recruiter? Problem with that is we're not 100% on who the damn recruiter is

Destiny

08-12-2008, 02:07 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 02:15 PM

However, Taker says that he has secret information that it couldn't have been any of those three. And I don't know where that would leave us.

I haven't been able to find anything similar in the nightphases to allow me to point you in the right direction. I've typed out clues and removed them four times now because they're too close to me just telling you what it is. *sigh* Make that five things i've deleted....

The info is there in my Smoochy posts, that's about the best I can do without cheating.

It might be a good idea to find out what Astil's ability is.

Indeed, he's been rather quiet too.

Slim can be nightkilled, masterded can (if his claim is true) only be daykilled and you, foolinc, can only be daykilled.

Astil - your ability please.

Didn't masterded say that he was essentially bullet-proof but that he also had the chance of killing the person who attacked him? Then again he might've just said that to keep Cyberkitten at arms length.

Problem is that recruits keep their abilities, so who's N9 guy?

Foolinc or masterded? That is, supposing Slim got recruited?

Which leads me back to masterded and me not buying his Duncan MacLeod Katana claim. Why would it "specifically" mention a katana and why would masterded claim so?

Thought on that?

The Duncan MacLeod claim sounds a bit iffy to me, if anything i'd have expected Crychon to use the classic Connor MacLeod character from the Highlander movies.

I see your point. What's more important? Lynching someone who's not night-killable who may be town or getting the recruiter? Problem with that is we're not 100% on who the damn recruiter is

At this moment in time i'd rather lynch masterded than Foolinc. Foolinc has at least proven his ability to us in the past so we know what his ability is, with masterded all we've got is an iffy role-claim and no proof of what his ability is. Plus the only way we can prove what masterded says is to send you after him in the night-phase, so on the off-chance that he's telling the truth it could potentially lead to your death.

Destiny

08-12-2008, 02:31 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

Undertaker666

08-12-2008, 02:39 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

You bored by any chance? :p

Destiny

08-12-2008, 02:46 PM

You bored by any chance? :p

:o You can tell. I've been away for a few days and although I'm dead, missed the mafia fix.

Astil

08-12-2008, 02:49 PM

Slim can be nightkilled, masterded can (if his claim is true) only be daykilled and you, foolinc, can only be daykilled.

Astil - your ability please.

I have none.

Astil

08-12-2008, 02:58 PM

I have none.

Once apon a time had a choice, to follow some men, or to do the right thing.

foolinc

08-12-2008, 03:27 PM

I have none.

OMG it's a vanilla townie! Take a picture! :D

Destiny

08-12-2008, 03:47 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

Crychon

08-12-2008, 03:49 PM

cyberkitten01

08-12-2008, 03:53 PM

Let's get this moving

Vote: masterded

Destiny

08-12-2008, 04:00 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

mastered 1 (cyberkitten01)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

foolinc

08-12-2008, 04:00 PM

Very well.

Vote: masterded

Destiny

08-12-2008, 04:14 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

mastered 2 (cyberkitten01, foolinc)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

trypio

08-12-2008, 04:14 PM

Aye!

vote: Masterded

Crychon

08-12-2008, 04:18 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

masterded: 3 (cyberkitten01, foolinc, trypio)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

Destiny

08-12-2008, 04:32 PM

It's ok, you only need to do that when there are votes...

I think you jinxed it. :p

Slim Jim

08-12-2008, 04:40 PM

Investigation result time...

Bluestar is TOWN aligned. Figured with his ability to control the voting to such an extent that he'd be a huge threat if non-town.

I've been vomiting all day since about 4AM so I'm not really feeling like going back through the recent posts but thought I'd come on before I went to bed to share that with you [the investigation, not the vomiting].

If there's a solid case against masterded then I'll throw my vote that way but I'm off to bed now so I'll just leave it for the morning when I feel more up to scanning back through the thread myself.

gonvick

08-12-2008, 04:45 PM

Problem is that recruits keep their abilities, so who's N9 guy?

Foolinc or masterded? That is, supposing Slim got recruited?

Which leads me back to masterded and me not buying his Duncan MacLeod Katana claim. Why would it "specifically" mention a katana and why would masterded claim so?

Thought on that?

A katana is rather central to the character so it doesn't seem odd to me that it would be mentioned in his role PM. If he is who he claims.

But why would masterded lie about who he is? If he was recruited into the cult, then he could still use his actual role because it started out town. And if his actual character was for some reason problematic to claim, why would he choose Duncan MacLeod? Everyone else had claimed by that point so he didn't have to worry about a counter claim. He could have chosen almost anyone.

And if foolinc was the Night 9 recruit, then he must have an additional ability besides being bulletproof. I would think that's a bit unlikely, if he is who he claims to be. And the write up where he was attacked didn't scream John McClane to me, so I am open to the possibility. But it would most likely mean that he was Syndicate aligned before being recruited. I don't recall, was he ever investigated or anything?

Destiny

08-12-2008, 05:01 PM

Astil

08-12-2008, 07:59 PM

Vote: Masterded

I brought this up in the night phase.

Crychon

08-12-2008, 08:13 PM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

masterded: 4 (cyberkitten01, foolinc, trypio, Astil)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

masterded

08-12-2008, 10:12 PM

A katana is rather central to the character so it doesn't seem odd to me that it would be mentioned in his role PM. If he is who he claims.

But why would masterded lie about who he is? If he was recruited into the cult, then he could still use his actual role because it started out town. And if his actual character was for some reason problematic to claim, why would he choose Duncan MacLeod? Everyone else had claimed by that point so he didn't have to worry about a counter claim. He could have chosen almost anyone.

And if foolinc was the Night 9 recruit, then he must have an additional ability besides being bulletproof. I would think that's a bit unlikely, if he is who he claims to be. And the write up where he was attacked didn't scream John McClane to me, so I am open to the possibility. But it would most likely mean that he was Syndicate aligned before being recruited. I don't recall, was he ever investigated or anything?

Thank you. I just don't see how the write-ups in any way scream it was me. Looking at the one it screams a non-fighter. If I get lynched and you all see I am still town allighned remember who wanted to lynch me. Also look at the people like slim and ut. People we know go out at night and are not ones known for their fighting though ut has been known to get into a big throw down (in other words look at slim first).

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 12:40 AM

Masterded, who are your 2 suspects then?

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 12:50 AM

We can always Vig Slim...problem with your claim is that you can't be vigged.

gonvick

08-13-2008, 12:52 AM

I haven't been able to find anything similar in the nightphases to allow me to point you in the right direction. I've typed out clues and removed them four times now because they're too close to me just telling you what it is. *sigh* Make that five things i've deleted....

The info is there in my Smoochy posts, that's about the best I can do without cheating.

I've had a look back back at some of Smoochy's posts and I haven't picked up on anything. Maybe I'm just missing it, but I don't recall any discussion about people getting punched or recruited until after Smoochy was killed, so I don't know what I'm looking for.

If you can't narrow it down any further without cheating, then I'm not sure what else to do. I'm quite reluctant to take you at your word since it appears to me that the write ups could indicate that you and Slim were recruited. The only way I can think of that I'd be comfortable trusting what you've claimed is if you were killed and proven to be town.

So for now I'll do this...Vote: Undertaker666

Let's see if we can get some discussion about this going while we still have time.

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 12:52 AM

I'm suspect of the katana claim because a katana got mentioned in the Sylar write-up. And that's clearly me.

/shrugs

Vote: masterded

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 12:55 AM

I'm just wondering Slim...why investigate me? It was obvious that I haven't been recruited at any point and my character is pretty much proven.

So I'd have to be cult from the start: a double-voting Cult recruiter...seems a bit too powerful, non?

Crychon

08-13-2008, 01:01 AM

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

masterded: 5 (cyberkitten01, foolinc, trypio, Astil, BlueStar)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

gonvick

08-13-2008, 01:27 AM

I'm suspect of the katana claim because a katana got mentioned in the Sylar write-up. And that's clearly me.

/shrugs

Vote: masterded

Is it that improbable that two characters in the game could have katanas?

The problem I have with the masterded lynch is that it pretty much requires that he's lied about who he is. And I can't find a satisfactory reason for why he would do that. He was investigated earlier and came up town, so if he was Syndicate aligned prior to recruitment that would make him most likely the Don. And from a game mechanics stand point, I wouldn't think the Don would be recruitable. I suppose it might be possible that someone other than the Don had the investigative protection, but that seems rather improbable to me.

I'm just wondering Slim...why investigate me? It was obvious that I haven't been recruited at any point and my character is pretty much proven.

So I'd have to be cult from the start: a double-voting Cult recruiter...seems a bit too powerful, non?

I thought his choice of investigative targets was really odd as well. But then I started this day phase with the theory that he was the Night 9 recruit, so I really wasn't expecting much from him anyway.

masterded

08-13-2008, 01:44 AM

I thought his choice of investigative targets was really odd as well. But then I started this day phase with the theory that he was the Night 9 recruit, so I really wasn't expecting much from him anyway.

I still doubt him. Really three characters seem to fit. Slim Astil and Ut (though he has been known to fight so him to a lesser extent) Lets remember one thing if Slim didn't give us his results we wouldn't trust him. We have seen nothing that means a RB could be out there so he has to give us info same for anyone if they get recruted or we would know.

masterded

08-13-2008, 01:46 AM

Also why wouldn't slim have inves me again. It is clear that most people didn't trust me including him. Seems odd for him not to pick me. Unless he knew that it would say town and that if he then lied about it killing me would lead to his death.

Crychon

08-13-2008, 01:49 AM

Well bed time, once again, here's the vote count:

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

masterded: 5 (cyberkitten01, foolinc, trypio, Astil, BlueStar)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 02:20 AM

That could lead us to Taker and Jim...Taker being N9 recruit? Slim being recruited last night?

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 02:46 AM

I've had a look back back at some of Smoochy's posts and I haven't picked up on anything. Maybe I'm just missing it, but I don't recall any discussion about people getting punched or recruited until after Smoochy was killed, so I don't know what I'm looking for.

If you can't narrow it down any further without cheating, then I'm not sure what else to do. I'm quite reluctant to take you at your word since it appears to me that the write ups could indicate that you and Slim were recruited. The only way I can think of that I'd be comfortable trusting what you've claimed is if you were killed and proven to be town.

So for now I'll do this...Vote: Undertaker666

Let's see if we can get some discussion about this going while we still have time.

There wasn't any discussion about being punched or being recruited because I didn't know what happened could happen until after i'd died. I said something about my role (possibly with a cool smiley) that i'm guessing some of you dismissed....

That could lead us to Taker and Jim...Taker being N9 recruit? Slim being recruited last night?

Which is impossible, because Slim investigated me Night 10 and said I was a townie. If anything it would be Slim recruited on Night 9, but then that still means he's not the recruiter, which again brings us back to masterded.

If it was up to me i'd lynch masterded to stop the recruitments and send Cyberkitten after Slim Jim during the nightphase. If we do that we can get the recruiter and the recruitee which will (hopefully) be the last of the cult.

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 02:53 AM

Sending Kitten after Jim is a very logical option, considering we have 2 who claim to be bulletproof at night.

masterded

08-13-2008, 03:07 AM

There wasn't any discussion about being punched or being recruited because I didn't know what happened could happen until after i'd died. I said something about my role (possibly with a cool smiley) that i'm guessing some of you dismissed....

Which is impossible, because Slim investigated me Night 10 and said I was a townie. If anything it would be Slim recruited on Night 9, but then that still means he's not the recruiter, which again brings us back to masterded.

If it was up to me i'd lynch masterded to stop the recruitments and send Cyberkitten after Slim Jim during the nightphase. If we do that we can get the recruiter and the recruitee which will (hopefully) be the last of the cult.

How does that add up? We have 2 cult members one from night 9 and the one from last night. How do I have to be the recruter if night 9 was slim?

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 03:22 AM

It's official...I hate cults.

gonvick

08-13-2008, 03:36 AM

That could lead us to Taker and Jim...Taker being N9 recruit? Slim being recruited last night?

I've been thinking that it's the other way around. Slim, Night 9. Taker, Night 11. At least that's what makes the most sense to me.

Which is impossible, because Slim investigated me Night 10 and said I was a townie. If anything it would be Slim recruited on Night 9, but then that still means he's not the recruiter, which again brings us back to masterded.

If Wallbanger wasn't the recruiter on Night 11, then it has to be whoever was recruited on Night 9. Unless your suggesting there was a second cultist at the beginning of the game. But that raises it's own questions.

So, what exactly do you think is the situation with masterded? Or at least what it could be that we should be lynching him?

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 03:42 AM

I don't think Wallbanger was the recruiter...the write-ups suggest otherwise.

I'm tempted to go along with that idea. I'm just worried that if we get them both wrong (and for example foolinc and masterded are recruited), we can't vig them.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 04:02 AM

How does that add up? We have 2 cult members one from night 9 and the one from last night. How do I have to be the recruter if night 9 was slim?

Because we're saying that Slim Jim was recruited on Night 9, and he can't have recruited himself.

It's official...I hate cults.

You and me both, I think they should be banned from all future Mafia games. :p

I've been thinking that it's the other way around. Slim, Night 9. Taker, Night 11. At least that's what makes the most sense to me.

The Night 11 write-up doesn't make any mention of the recruitee looking for someone, it just says that they were walking down the hallway, so it can't be me.

If Wallbanger wasn't the recruiter on Night 11, then it has to be whoever was recruited on Night 9. Unless your suggesting there was a second cultist at the beginning of the game. But that raises it's own questions.

It's a possibility, to my understanding a traditional cult can only recruit while their leader is still alive. With Tyler Durden now dead and the recruiting still ongoing it suggests that it's a variation on the cult role, which means we can't exclude the possibility of there being more than one member at the beginning.

So, what exactly do you think is the situation with masterded? Or at least what it could be that we should be lynching him?

I think he's the Edward Norton character from Fight Club and he's taken over from Tyler. His ability claim of "I have a chance of killing anyone who tries to kill me" screams to me that he's trying to keep Cyberkitten away. If he is the Edward Norton character then it could also explain why he came up town aligned when investigated.

I don't think Wallbanger was the recruiter...the write-ups suggest otherwise.

I'm tempted to go along with that idea. I'm just worried that if we get them both wrong (and for example foolinc and masterded are recruited), we can't vig them.

We can at least take one of them out of the equation though with this plan, and there's always tomorrow because we've still got the numbers on our side. I'm willing to put my vote down on masterded to get this underway if we're all in agreement?

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 04:21 AM

I've also suggested that he's Edward Norton and is part of the original members.

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 04:23 AM

If masterded claim is true, then we have 3 bulletproof characters in the game. Jack Sparrow, McClane en MacLeod....

masterded

08-13-2008, 04:24 AM

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/HollywoodHorror.jpg

[FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="2"]INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, HALLWAY – NIGHT ELEVEN

The man was walking down the hallway, he realized he was going the wrong way, and turned around. He was quickly tackled, and knocked from his feet. His assailant pounded him mercilessly, until eventually the man underneath asked him to stop.

ATTACKED MAN
“Come on, stop, STOP!”

The attacker let up, and the attacked man got to his feet. He smiled. He hit his attacker with a sucker punch.

ATTACKED MAN
“That’s what you get!”

He smiled, and helped his attacker up.

What is this?

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 04:27 AM

If masterded claim is true, then we have 3 bulletproof characters in the game. Jack Sparrow, McClane en MacLeod....

And V, technically. Seems like a lot doesn't it.

What is this?

Part of the Night 11 write-up. What's your point? :confused:

masterded

08-13-2008, 04:30 AM

And V, technically. Seems like a lot doesn't it.

Part of the Night 11 write-up. What's your point? :confused:

Is it not the recrutment of cult member number 2?

gonvick

08-13-2008, 04:33 AM

I've also suggested that he's Edward Norton and is part of the original members.

I've just realized something that makes this a bit more plausible than I was thinking previously.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 04:34 AM

Is it not the recrutment of cult member number 2?

It's the recruitment of A cult member. If you're the recruiter, as I suspect you are, then there are two other cult members, with Slim Jim likely being one of them.

masterded

08-13-2008, 04:35 AM

Remeber UT pushing for me guys. When I die and you see my name in blue remember.

masterded

08-13-2008, 04:37 AM

Also if UT is not cult though he sure seems like the sucker punching type, you know they will be thanking him.

Slim Jim

08-13-2008, 04:38 AM

Okay, so I've read up and the thought process against masterded seems fairly solid, though before I start laying down votes I should probably say something about the accusations flying my way...

First, people were saying it looks like I could have been recruited night nine because the person being punched was following someone... but look at the rest of the narrative and the dialogue. That doesn't look like Dwight to me. I don't think anyone would describe him as having some fight in him. He's the complete opposite, in my opinion. He's very full of his own importance but if you put him into a fight he'd crumble like a little girl and get beaten to oblivion. He wouldn't be able to successfully fight back, I don't think. He's all talk, no action really.

Second, I'm not sure what 'Taker was getting at when he said something about his Smoochy role means he thinks I couldn't have been recruited but I have my own reasons for thinking that. A townie investigator being recruited by a cult would almost be on the same level as having a scum PGO. Okay, not QUITE as over-matched but still fairly so, since investigators become the big power roles if they survive long enough. To have someone with that much clout be able to jump ship would be a touch unfair, and if Crychon has put in unrecruitable characters [as it seems he has] I'd put investigator up there at the top of that list.

As for why I investigated Blue, like I said his role would be damned useful for the cult, since he can heavily affect the voting. I know he claimed and all but I don't know much of anything about his character, and in all honesty I haven't taken the time to look into the characters that have been claimed. I originally sent in the investigation for masterded again but changed my mind before the phase ended. It was just my gut decision.

Now back to the lynch at hand, taking everything into consideration, masterded looks like the best option for the lynch. Sparrow, McClane and his guy all bulletproof? Heh, excuse me for doubting that.

Vote: masterded

masterded

08-13-2008, 04:40 AM

Hay slim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpqhSrAAT0&feature=related

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 04:57 AM

I've just realized something that makes this a bit more plausible than I was thinking previously.

Care to share your thoughts?

Remeber UT pushing for me guys. When I die and you see my name in blue remember.

I pushed the heaviest against The Shape, and he was town, when I was Smoochy. If I think you're scummy, i'll push. I'm not always right, but I do think you're the recruiter.

Second, I'm not sure what 'Taker was getting at when he said something about his Smoochy role means he thinks I couldn't have been recruited but I have my own reasons for thinking that.

I've been mulling this over and the more I think about it, the more my Smoochy situation doesn't apply as you could have easily lied about using your ability.

Hay slim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpqhSrAAT0&feature=related

lol, Cyberkitten should be careful, he's vicious! :p

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 05:04 AM

Waiting, I guess....

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 05:07 AM

Waiting, I guess....

Have you used your negative voting, or do I need to put my vote on because I think we're currently at six votes?

gonvick

08-13-2008, 05:21 AM

Care to share your thoughts?

Nothing terribly important. I had been thinking that there were two nights without Fight Club activity, but there were three. So one of the presumptions I was working under lacks sufficient support. And as such, there's more room for a second founding member of the cult than I had been considering.

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 05:42 AM

Have you used your negative voting, or do I need to put my vote on because I think we're currently at six votes?

Vote count = normal.

cyberkitten01

08-13-2008, 06:14 AM

I don't trust masterded, but I hate cults

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 06:42 AM

Where's a mod when you need one...going into a meeting. Be back in couple hours...

Crychon

08-13-2008, 09:23 AM

Where's a mod when you need one...going into a meeting. Be back in couple hours...

Believe it or not, we have to sleep too! :eek:

It is now day phase twelve. You have until 10:00 PM EST Wednesday, August 13th (3:00 AM Thursday, August 14th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

masterded: 6 (cyberkitten01, foolinc, trypio, Astil, BlueStar, Slim Jim)
Undertaker666: 1 (gonvick)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 10:09 AM

Either Crychon can't count or there's something fishy going on.... either Bluestar lied about his vote count being normal (can't think why he would lie though?) or someone else is fiddling with the votes. :eek:

Vote: masteded

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 10:09 AM

Damn typo.

Vote: masterded

cyberkitten01

08-13-2008, 10:10 AM

Crychon

08-13-2008, 10:13 AM

Lynch has been achieved! A writeup will follow shortly.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 10:17 AM

I had the same worrying thought

Which begs the question, was it Blue or someone else? Blue's already said it wasn't and I doubt anyone else will admit to it. Jeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssss...... with each step we get more questions!?!?!?!?!?!?!! :rolleyes:

Crychon

08-13-2008, 10:25 AM

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/HollywoodHorror.jpg

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY – DAY TWELVE

The group needed to find answers, and they needed to do what they could to rid this hotel of the group known as Project Mayhem. They looked around, and settled on one man. The walked over to him in the corner, where he was casually sitting alone.

“You! You must be a member of Project Mayhem!”

The man smiled, and extinguished his cigarette, quickly lighting up another one.

“Project Mayhem? No, I don’t think so… I’m a townie!”

“No you’re not!”

The man sighed, and got up, walking into the center of the room.

“We’re not afraid of you! Your time is over!”

The man smiled again.

“Don’t try and threaten me! I’ve watched presidents die!”

The crowd closed in around him, he whispered into someone’s ear, and stood in the center of the room. When another person came up, and he realized the end of his life was inevitable, he once again sighed, and extinguished a cigarette.

“Life… Is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable because all you get back is another box of chocolates. So you're stuck with this undefinable whipped mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while there's a peanut butter cup or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast and the taste is... fleeting. So, you end up with nothing but broken bits filled with hardened jelly and teeth-shattering nuts. And if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you got left is an empty box filled with useless brown paper wrappers.”

The crowd looked slightly confused, and walked him over to the gallows. The man didn’t look frightened, or even seem to care what was happening. As they put the noose around his neck, he casually lit up another cigarette, he inhaled and let out a satisfied sigh… And then his neck snapped.

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Final Vote Count:
masterded: 7 (cyberkitten01, foolinc, trypio, Astil, BlueStar, Slim Jim, Undertaker666)
Undertaker666: 1 (gonvick)

With 10 players remaining, it is 6 to lynch.

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masterded is dead, he was The Cigarette Smoking Man, Syndicate Aligned Syndicate Leader

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Casualties:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/CigaretteSmokingMan.jpg

Crychon

08-13-2008, 10:27 AM

Wow, didn't realize how redundant his role title was, heh.

Anyway...

It is now Night Phase Twelve!

You have until 11:30 AM EST Thursday, August 14th (4:30 PM Wednesday, August 14th GMT) to send in night PMs to me!

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 11:00 AM

Well, that was unexpected, but a result nonetheless! Woooooooo! :D

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 11:27 AM

That final vote count doesn't add up....unless someone is voting -1, as it wasn't me (I put mine at -1 when masterded was at 4 votes to prolong the discussion).

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 12:34 PM

That final vote count doesn't add up....unless someone is voting -1, as it wasn't me (I put mine at -1 when masterded was at 4 votes to prolong the discussion).

There can only be four possible reasons based on what we know:

1. You're lying. (but I can't think of why you would?)

2. Astil is lying about his ability. (but we know who he is so he couldn't be red Mafia, could he?)

3. Trypio is lying about his ability. (but we knw who he is so he couldn't be red Mafia, could he?)

4. masterded had a -1 vote ability. (seems a bit weak for the Cigarette Smoking Man though, especially with Bluestar able to do a -2 vote)

Everyone else who voted has proven their ability. I'm confuzzled. :confused:

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 12:36 PM

Oh crap, i've just re-read the writeup:

The crowd closed in around him, he whispered into someone’s ear, and stood in the center of the room.

What's he doing whispering in someone's ear?!?! :eek:

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 12:42 PM

Just to be clear: I put masterded on -1 when I voted for him to prolong discussion. I removed my -1 vote when Masterded was on 4 (5 including mine) during the phase as his defence was wearing out thin.

Needing 7 votes adds up to:
1) If you really think so, me making a mistake....can't see in which theory that fits though. If you can, please explain come day.
2) Crychon making a mistake and not seeing my vote change till there were 7 votes....
3) Something else being up...which is strange because except for mine I haven't seen a vote manipulation.

Game play wise, I think Crychon will be able to confirm at which point the majority was reached...seems only fair.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 12:57 PM

Double crap:

The crowd closed in around him, he whispered into someone’s ear, and stood in the center of the room.

I think this means one of two things, either:

1. He's whispering to another red Mafia member.

or

2. It would be very much CSG if he had a "bomb-like" ability in that he's whispered his final order to one of his nameless agents (probably not an actual person playing) to kill the last person who voted for him.

Either way, it sucks. :(

Just to be clear: I put masterded on -1 when I voted for him to prolong discussion. I removed my -1 vote when Masterded was on 4 (5 including mine) during the phase as his defence was wearing out thin.

Needing 7 votes adds up to:
1) If you really think so, me making a mistake....can't see in which theory that fits though. If you can, please explain come day.
2) Crychon making a mistake and not seeing my vote change till there were 7 votes....
3) Something else being up...which is strange because except for mine I haven't seen a vote manipulation.

Game play wise, I think Crychon will be able to confirm at which point the majority was reached...seems only fair.

I'm not sure Crychon would be able to say anything as it could be deemed interfering. He hasn't pointed out when you've switched your voting ability in the past to tell us exactly when the lynch was achieved, this is probably no different.

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 01:11 PM

/ shrugs...whatever. We needed to get rid of Duncan MacLeod anyway, but I was hoping he'd be Edward Norton.

Unless Cult's only got a recruitment every other night, we're still at least 2 shy of a town victory. And we hadn't accounted for another red mafia to still be around....

RKO_HBK

08-13-2008, 01:12 PM

Pardon the ignorance but...

2. It would be very much CSG if he had a "bomb-like" ability in that he's whispered his final order to one of his nameless agents (probably not an actual person playing) to kill the last person who voted for him.

...CSG?

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:17 PM

Pardon the ignorance but...

...CSG?

Cigarette Smoking.... Guy? I meant CSM, Cigarette Smoking Man. :p

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 01:19 PM

Is Cigarette Guy someone from X-Files? Never really watched it so....

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:21 PM

Is Cigarette Guy someone from X-Files? Never really watched it so....

Yeah, he was one of the guys leading the conspiracy to cover up the existence of aliens.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:24 PM

And you should watch X-Files, it's awesome! :cool:

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:26 PM

Masterded's reading the thread.... how's it hanging? "Hanging", geddit? I'm here all week....

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 01:27 PM

And you should watch X-Files, it's awesome! :cool:

I'm one of the generation that should be fans...never got into the series really. Watched a couple episodes, then forgot, then another few....I mean, Gillian Anderson's a fox but even that didn't do it.

I loved Twin Peaks however, even though I was a bit too young for that one.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:33 PM

I'm one of the generation that should be fans...never got into the series really. Watched a couple episodes, then forgot, then another few....I mean, Gillian Anderson's a fox but even that didn't do it.

Interesting choice of words, "Fox" is Mulder's first name. :D

(you might like a movie called Straightheads btw....)

I loved Twin Peaks however, even though I was a bit too young for that one.

Same here, I should get it on dvd some day. Just looked and season 1 is £18 on Amazon.... hmmmmmm......

RKO_HBK

08-13-2008, 01:43 PM

And you should watch X-Files, it's awesome! :cool:

Was never into bits of the series I saw, but the trailor for the film's got me really interested.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:45 PM

Was never into bits of the series I saw, but the trailor for the film's got me really interested.

lol, I thought the new movie was a bit crap. :p

Well, not crap exactly, but I expected "more".

Crychon

08-13-2008, 01:46 PM

lol, I thought the new movie was a bit crap. :p

Well, not crap exactly, but I expected "more".

/nod

RKO_HBK

08-13-2008, 01:49 PM

lol, I thought the new movie was a bit crap. :p

Well, not crap exactly, but I expected "more".

lol fair enough, not seen it yet and I'm not really expecting much, having never been a big fan of the series. Now one film that I am expected a lot from...the Dark Knight, can't believe I've not got to see it yet.

But well I'm dragging this away on a tangent so just ignore me lol :p

BlueStar

08-13-2008, 01:51 PM

Interesting choice of words, "Fox" is Mulder's first name. :D

Quite a pun for a non native English speaker, non mon cher? ;)

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:52 PM

/nod

It was just like an extended episode wasn't it, I didn't think it was worthy of the return of Mulder and Scully. I was hoping for something epic (and the trailers make it seem more exciting than it is, in my opinion) but instead it's just a story which didn't even really need to be X-Files related.

(obviously i'm avoiding any spoilers for those who haven't seen it)

Crychon

08-13-2008, 01:58 PM

It was just like an extended episode wasn't it, I didn't think it was worthy of the return of Mulder and Scully. I was hoping for something epic (and the trailers make it seem more exciting than it is, in my opinion) but instead it's just a story which didn't even really need to be X-Files related.

(obviously i'm avoiding any spoilers for those who haven't seen it)

It was like a long episode, but not one of the amazing episodes they had so many of. You'd think after having roughly 6 or 7 years they would've come up with something better than they did. I was glad to see Mulder and Scully back, and together, but that was about all there was that was good about it, sadly.

It felt like a long episode with Mulder and Scully on some sort of spinoff that had very few of the characters (other than them) who made the show what it was. Though, I can understand why a lot of them were left off, as a good chunk of the interesting characters weren't alive by series end.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 01:58 PM

lol fair enough, not seen it yet and I'm not really expecting much, having never been a big fan of the series.

You'll probably enjoy it more because you're not a fan of X-Files. I can imagine the average person thinking it's a good movie, and it's not bad by all means, but I think most fans of the series were hoping for something different.

Now one film that I am expected a lot from...the Dark Knight, can't believe I've not got to see it yet.

Try to avoid all the hype and make up your own mind, the way people were raving about the movie I thought it was something that was going to blow me away. It's good, but people hyped it so much that my expectations were very high. And don't even get me started on Heath Ledger....

*cue Crychon modkilling me* :p

But well I'm dragging this away on a tangent so just ignore me lol :p

It's nightphase, drag away. :p

Quite a pun for a non native English speaker, non mon cher? ;)

Indeed. :D

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 02:04 PM

It was like a long episode, but not one of the amazing episodes they had so many of. You'd think after having roughly 6 or 7 years they would've come up with something better than they did. I was glad to see Mulder and Scully back, and together, but that was about all there was that was good about it, sadly.

It felt like a long episode with Mulder and Scully on some sort of spinoff that had very few of the characters (other than them) who made the show what it was. Though, I can understand why a lot of them were left off, as a good chunk of the interesting characters weren't alive by series end.

I'm hoping the movie does really well (I haven't checked the box office takings) simply so that we can get the two characters back together again.... and again.... and again..... Hopefully the next movie (if there is one) will be something more for the fans of the series rather than trying to appeal to more of a mainstream audience, which is what I think they tried to do.

RKO_HBK

08-13-2008, 02:11 PM

Try to avoid all the hype and make up your own mind, the way people were raving about the movie I thought it was something that was going to blow me away. It's good, but people hyped it so much that my expectations were very high. And don't even get me started on Heath Ledger....

Yeah I think most of the hype is because of Ledger...not meaning to be disrespectful, but it seems the hype surrounding him as an actor has really only come about after his death. Regardless, I'm really looking forward to the film and the trailors yet again have me very excited, but like you said it's been hyped up so much that I'm worried it could be a letdown.

Crychon

08-13-2008, 02:24 PM

I'm hoping the movie does really well (I haven't checked the box office takings) simply so that we can get the two characters back together again.... and again.... and again..... Hopefully the next movie (if there is one) will be something more for the fans of the series rather than trying to appeal to more of a mainstream audience, which is what I think they tried to do.

It sadly didn't do very well at all, and it's already working its way out of theaters.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 02:34 PM

It sadly didn't do very well at all, and it's already working its way out of theaters.

Damnit.

Just read this:

Actress GILLIAN ANDERSON is blaming the popularity of new BATMAN movie THE DARK KNIGHT for THE X-FILES film's low box office grossings.

The X-Files: I Want To Believe, starring Anderson and David Duchovny, earned a disappointing $10.2 million (£5.1 million) in its opening weekend (26-27Jul08) in the U.S., while The Dark Knight took an impressive $75 million (£37.5 million) in the same weekend.

And Anderson is convinced that her movie - based on the hit TV show - is suffering because so many people are flocking to see the Batman sequel.

She says, "It's (The X-Files film) had a bit of a rough time in the States. It's opening against one of the highest grossing movies, Batman.

"People in the States are so used to lots of CGI (computer-generated imagery), action and sex and we don't really offer a lot of that in this film."

The Dark Knight certainly didn't help matters, but I can't help but feel that it's more to do with the film not being "X-Filesy" enough.

Destiny

08-13-2008, 02:52 PM

The Dark Knight certainly didn't help matters, but I can't help but feel that it's more to do with the film not being "X-Filesy" enough.

Whilst I don't know anything of X Files, I think the Dark Knight has hampered many film ratings.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 03:13 PM

Whilst I don't know anything of X Files, I think the Dark Knight has hampered many film ratings.

You might be right, but i'd think that if people really wanted to see a movie then they would've gone and seen it.

gonvick

08-13-2008, 04:46 PM

That was an interesting result. Odd that the Syndicate hasn't been killing lately.

But that still leaves us with a cult recruiter to take care of. I still think Slim is the most likely suspect, so I wouldn't mind if he was visited by a certain masked man tonight.

cyberkitten01

08-13-2008, 05:01 PM

I have very little trust left at this point, so I'm going to keep my night's escipades secret

Crychon

08-13-2008, 06:57 PM

The night phase is now over! A writeup will follow shortly!

Astil

08-13-2008, 07:11 PM

/waits

Crychon

08-13-2008, 07:18 PM

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INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY – NIGHT TWELVE

After the crowd dispersed from the lobby, one man stayed there. He had a feeling someone was going to come after him, so he had to prepare. Even if they weren’t coming after him, he’d make them pay! He waited with a smile on his face, and lo and behold, there he was, and he was coming after him! The waiting man smiled.

WAITING MAN
“Well, there you are…”

The masked man emerged from the shadows, spread his arms.

MASKED MAN
“Here I am…”

The two men stared each other down for a little while, until the masked man moved, and spoke.

MASKED MAN
“I believe you know why I’m here… You seem like…”

WAITING MAN
“Yeah, yeah, I know, I’ve seen your results before… So how do we do this…?”

MASKED MAN
“Well, for starters…”

The masked man reached into his coat, and drew a throwing dagger, and quickly hurled it into the chest of Slim Jim, who fell to the ground, gasping for breath. The masked man quickly moved over the body, and bent over him, withdrawing a rose from his coat.

MASKED MAN
“And for you… A rose…”

The waiting man smiled, and spat out some blood.

WAITING MAN
“…And for you…”

The man smiled as he revealed a detonator that was in his hand, before the masked man could react, an explosion rocked the hotel, and smoke filled the area, nothing seemed to hit either of them, but the dying man laughed.

WAITING MAN
“Here we go…”

The masked man turned around, but before he could react, a giant stone statue that was next to them both fell over, crushing the man, and cyberkitten01.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY – MORNING

When morning came, and the crowd felt safe enough to come down, they witnessed the carnage of the night before, the room was torn apart, and though one more menace was removed, so was a true hero.

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Slim Jim is dead, he was Dwight Schrute, Project Mayhem Aligned Volunteer Sheriff’s Deputy
cyberkitten01 is dead, she was V, Convention Aligned Vivacious And Virtuous Vigilante

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Casualties:
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Crychon

08-13-2008, 07:22 PM

It is now day phase thirteen You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

Astil

08-13-2008, 07:32 PM

So. Someone with surprising fight in them. Dwight?

Astil

08-13-2008, 08:28 PM

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Destiny

08-13-2008, 08:36 PM

It is now day phase thirteen. You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 08:43 PM

Crychon

08-13-2008, 08:46 PM

It is now day phase thirteen You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

BlueStar: 1 (Undertaker666)

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

gonvick

08-13-2008, 08:57 PM

Bluestar is who currently concerns me the most. With only seven of us left and four needed to lynch, his ability to add two extra votes can be devastating if he's the red Mafia member that masterded/CSM was whispering instructions to.

The red Mafia can obviously choose not to kill during the nightphase or we wouldn't have let masterded go undetected for so long. If we lynch a townie and Bluestar attacks during the nightphase then there'll be five of us left and three votes needed to lynch, Bluestar can have three votes all by himself due to being able to add two extra votes so he can win even though he's the sole remaining red Mafia. It would also explain why we needed extra votes to lynch masterded/CSM because Bluestar would have added negative votes.

Vote: Bluestar

I don't think Miho would be Syndicate aligned. If there is yet another Syndicate member left I think it's foolinc. The write up where he was attacked has never really seemed much like John McClane to me. He could be bulletproof scum.

But I'm more interested in finishing off the cult. They've recruited every other night since TEOR's death. If that pattren holds tru, then they'll recruit again tonight. Which is worse than the mafia killing someone. So even if Blue is scum, which I don't think he is, I think he'd be the wrong way to go.

And I'm still of the idea that Ron Birgundy fits the Nght 11 recuitee better than anyone else. So...

Vote: Undertaker666

Crychon

08-13-2008, 08:59 PM

It is now day phase thirteen You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

BlueStar: 1 (Undertaker666)
Undertaker666: 1 (gonvick)

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 09:04 PM

I don't think Miho would be Syndicate aligned. If there is yet another Syndicate member left I think it's foolinc. The write up where he was attacked has never really seemed much like John McClane to me. He could be bulletproof scum.

You're saying that you think John McClane is more likely to be scum than Miho, someone who chops people up into little pieces? I'm not following your logical there. :confused:

But I'm more interested in finishing off the cult. They've recruited every other night since TEOR's death. If that pattren holds tru, then they'll recruit again tonight. Which is worse than the mafia killing someone. So even if Blue is scum, which I don't think he is, I think he'd be the wrong way to go.

And I'm still of the idea that Ron Birgundy fits the Nght 11 recuitee better than anyone else. So...

Vote: Undertaker666

As I said before, during the Night 11 write-up there was no mention of the recruited person "looking for someone", it was just someone walking down the hallway, so it can't be me. Afterall, it was the "looking for someone" hint in the Night 9 write-up that made us look at Slim Jim because he had a targetable ability.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 09:06 PM

And bullet-proof scum isn't very likely, that's a Don role and we know the mastereded/CSM was the Don. Vote Manipulators on the other hand are quite often scummy.

gonvick

08-13-2008, 09:19 PM

You're saying that you think John McClane is more likely to be scum than Miho, someone who chops people up into little pieces? I'm not following your logical there. :confused:

I'm saying that I'm not convinced that foolinc is John McClane. The Night 5 write up has never really seemed like McClane to me. So his claim is the one I would question first in looking for another Syndicate member.

Miho may kill people, but I din't think she fits with the Syndicate. And I'm resonably convinced that BlueStar is indeed Miho.

As I said before, during the Night 11 write-up there was no mention of the recruited person "looking for someone", it was just someone walking down the hallway, so it can't be me. Afterall, it was the "looking for someone" hint in the Night 9 write-up that made us look at Slim Jim because he had a targetable ability.

So you're convinced that the write up will always mention that a recruitee is looking for someone if they have a target? Because I think walking down a hallway fits you just fine.

But, if it wasn't you, then I'd be interested in who you think fits as the recruitee for that night. Because I think that's who we should be lynching this phase.

And bullet-proof scum isn't very likely, that's a Don role and we know the mastereded/CSM was the Don. Vote Manipulators on the other hand are quite often scummy.

Pretty sure I've seen bulletproof scum before, so I wouldn't be shocked to see it again. And we're talking about a potential 8th Syndicate member here. So again, having one of them be bulletproof isn't that odd to me. And I don't think it necessarily has to be the Don. So foolinc is my top suspect, as far as that goes.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 09:33 PM

So you're convinced that the write up will always mention that a recruitee is looking for someone if they have a target? Because I think walking down a hallway fits you just fine.

When Slim was recruited he was "looking for someone", there wasn't anything said like that in Night 11 because I was following someone (might've been you? My memory sucks :p). Walking down a hallway sounds more like it's simply someone without a targetable ability walking to their hotel room because they aren't actively doing anything.

But, if it wasn't you, then I'd be interested in who you think fits as the recruitee for that night. Because I think that's who we should be lynching this phase.

We should be lynching Bluestar this phase because if he is red Mafia (which would explain the fiddly vote rigging yesterday) then he/they have won if there's a kill tonight. With no Cyberkitten to take him out at night, there's no way we can gain a majority vote during the next phase and that means game over.

Pretty sure I've seen bulletproof scum before, so I wouldn't be shocked to see it again. And we're talking about a potential 8th Syndicate member here. So again, having one of them be bulletproof isn't that odd to me. And I don't think it necessarily has to be the Don. So foolinc is my top suspect, as far as that goes.

Having a bullet proof Mafia member and a bullet proof Don seems rather unbalanced. I can't recall seeing a bullet proof Mafia member in the games i've played before (I may be wrong though), but I have seen scummy vote manipulators before. I had a vote manipulator on my Mafia team in DOTT and I could manipulate votes in Heroes Mafia (I was scum).

Astil

08-13-2008, 09:43 PM

Vote: BlueStar

Lets see how this goes.

Astil

08-13-2008, 09:47 PM

Hello there GruntMark.

Crychon

08-13-2008, 09:47 PM

It is now day phase thirteen You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

BlueStar: 2 (Undertaker666, Astil)
Undertaker666: 1 (gonvick)

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

GruntMark

08-13-2008, 09:53 PM

Hello there GruntMark.

This almost flipped me out.

Hurry up and kill each other so I can be a Wookie!

mjdgoldeneye

08-13-2008, 09:54 PM

Vote: BlueStar

...

Wait... So I don't get a zombie vote? :p

Crychon

08-13-2008, 09:54 PM

Vote: BlueStar

...

Wait... So I don't get a zombie vote? :p

*pulls out a shotgun*

Hush you...

Astil

08-13-2008, 10:03 PM

*pulls out a shotgun*

Hush you...

TOMB. TOMB.

See kane thread for explanation.

mjdgoldeneye

08-13-2008, 10:05 PM

*pulls out a shotgun*

Hush you...

Campbell's dead! I have nothing to fear! :p

...

Ok, now I'm gone until Star Wars...

Crychon

08-13-2008, 10:07 PM

Campbell's dead! I have nothing to fear! :p

...

Ok, now I'm gone until Star Wars...

That's right, back to the grave with you!
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gonvick

08-13-2008, 10:12 PM

When Slim was recruited he was "looking for someone", there wasn't anything said like that in Night 11 because I was following someone (might've been you? My memory sucks :p). Walking down a hallway sounds more like it's simply someone without a targetable ability walking to their hotel room because they aren't actively doing anything.

Not an unreasonable assertion. I'm just not as sure that must be consistent throughout every recruitment attempt.

So, which of the remaining characters do you think would be most likely to beg their attacker for mercy and then sucker punch them and taunt them afterwards. Because I can't think of anyone that would fit that description better than Ron Burgundy, but I'm open to other ideas if any one has a suggestion.

We should be lynching Bluestar this phase because if he is red Mafia (which would explain the fiddly vote rigging yesterday) then he/they have won if there's a kill tonight. With no Cyberkitten to take him out at night, there's no way we can gain a majority vote during the next phase and that means game over.

Wasn't BlueStar one of the players that were outspoken in favor of lynching masterded? So if he's the Syncdicate member, he not only was trying to bus his own Don, but he then worked against that plan by putting a negative vote on him, and just one vote not the two he had at his disposal, thereby implicating himself since he's the only vote manipulator we know for sure. Seems like an awfully sloppy play on his part if that's true.

I just have some trouble believing Blue would make a half-assed attempt to save the Don he was apparently trying to bus even though it would likely lead right back to him. I also don't hink masterded would think that's a sound plan. And I think it's unlikely that Blue would do that without any communication between the two.

Having a bullet proof Mafia member and a bullet proof Don seems rather unbalanced.

How do we know the Don was bulletproof? Personally, I'd be rather surprised if the CSM was bulletproof. A politician type role where he could change one person's vote would fit better than bulletproof, in my opinion.

Maybe my expectations are off, but I don't think a bulletproof non-Don mafia member is any less likely than one with a +3 vote.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 10:26 PM

Not an unreasonable assertion. I'm just not as sure that must be consistent throughout every recruitment attempt.

So yesterday it was, "Night 9 must be 'Taker or Slim Jim because they've got targetable abilities", and now you're saying that's not necessarily the case because Night 11 says otherwise? If anything, it's interpretations on the nightphase write-ups that's inconsistent.

So, which of the remaining characters do you think would be most likely to beg their attacker for mercy and then sucker punch them and taunt them afterwards. Because I can't think of anyone that would fit that description better than Ron Burgundy, but I'm open to other ideas if any one has a suggestion.

Either:

Ron Burgundy
Bluth guy (can never remember his first name)
Hiro
Walter

Obviously i'm the logical choice, based solely on the what the person said, but the lead up to what the person said suggests that it's not me.

Wasn't BlueStar one of the players that were outspoken in favor of lynching masterded? So if he's the Syncdicate member, he not only was trying to bus his own Don, but he then worked against that plan by putting a negative vote on him, and just one vote not the two he had at his disposal, thereby implicating himself since he's the only vote manipulator we know for sure. Seems like an awfully sloppy play on his part if that's true.

Putting two negative votes on masterded would undoubtedly point towards Bluestar, I also don't think he'd do something so sloppy so he only used the one negative vote.

I just have some trouble believing Blue would make a half-assed attempt to save the Don he was apparently trying to bus even though it would likely lead right back to him. I also don't hink masterded would think that's a sound plan. And I think it's unlikely that Blue would do that without any communication between the two.

I'd imagine that Bluestar was planning to survive this day phase because of the suspicion I was under during the previous phase, then once he gets to the nightphase he can win the game for the Mafia.

How do we know the Don was bulletproof? Personally, I'd be rather surprised if the CSM was bulletproof. A politician type role where he could change one person's vote would fit better than bulletproof, in my opinion.

CSM is undoubtedly bullet-proof if you know anything about the character. In the TV show he was shot by an professional hitman and he was thrown down a staircase while he was wheelchair bound, he survived both incidents.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 10:27 PM

So, which of the remaining characters do you think would be most likely to beg their attacker for mercy and then sucker punch them and taunt them afterwards. Because I can't think of anyone that would fit that description better than Ron Burgundy, but I'm open to other ideas if any one has a suggestion.

And Foolinc, if he lied about his character.

Astil

08-13-2008, 11:09 PM

And Foolinc, if he lied about his character.

Wasn't he attacked?

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 11:15 PM

Wasn't he attacked?

Yes he was, but that only proves his ability, not his character.

Astil

08-13-2008, 11:16 PM

Yes he was, but that only proves his ability, not his character.

So he's bulletproof mafia, or bulletproof cult?

gonvick

08-13-2008, 11:18 PM

So yesterday it was, "Night 9 must be 'Taker or Slim Jim because they've got targetable abilities", and now you're saying that's not necessarily the case because Night 11 says otherwise? If anything, it's interpretations on the nightphase write-ups that's inconsistent.

It was never my point that the write up would always indicate that someone had a target when they were recruited. Just that that particular one did and so we should use that to form our conclusion.

I'm saying that the specific mentioning of a target means there is a target. I'm not so sure that no mention of a target is equally indicative of there not being a target. So I was was more sure that 'looking for someone' meant a targetable ability than I am that 'walking down the hallway' means a no targetable ability.

Maybe I'm just more comfortable coming to a conclusion based on the inclusion of something than on the exclusion of something.

Either:

Ron Burgundy
Bluth guy (can never remember his first name)
Hiro
Walter

Obviously i'm the logical choice, based solely on the what the person said, but the lead up to what the person said suggests that it's not me.

Michael Bluth, maybe he'd resort to a sucker punch but I kind of doubt it. And I don't think the taunting fits. I guess he'd be my second choice just for lack of alternatives.

Hiro is all about honor, I highly doubt he'd sucker punch anyone.

Walter, I'm not terribly familiar with the character, but I wouldn't expect that to be the way he'd handle being attacked. Being a Vietnam vet and all, I think he's familiar enough with violence that he would just fight back if attacked.

At least that's the way I see it. I'd certainly like to hear from more people about it.

Putting two negative votes on masterded would undoubtedly point towards Bluestar, I also don't think he'd do something so sloppy so he only used the one negative vote.

But what would only one negative vote accomplish? It wasn't likely to save masterded unless we were close to the deadline, which we weren't. If he was trying to bus his Don to appear more town, not that he really needed to, why cast a negative vote at all? That just defeats the purpose of bussing him in the first place by calling attention to his known vote manipulation ability.

There was a reasonable case to be made for Slim being a cult recruit and possible recruiter, why not push that if he didn't want masterded lynched? I'm just not understanding his motives if he's a Syndicate member.

CSM is undoubtedly bullet-proof if you know anything about the character. In the TV show he was shot by an professional hitman and he was thrown down a staircase while he was wheelchair bound, he survived both incidents.

It has been many years since I've seen the show, so I'll concede that bulletproof could fit him. I wouldn't go so far as to say he's "undoubtedly" bulletproof though, as I have plenty of doubt. Or perhaps uncertainty is more accurate.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 11:36 PM

It was never my point that the write up would always indicate that someone had a target when they were recruited. Just that that particular one did and so we should use that to form our conclusion.

I'm saying that the specific mentioning of a target means there is a target. I'm not so sure that no mention of a target is equally indicative of there not being a target. So I was was more sure that 'looking for someone' meant a targetable ability than I am that 'walking down the hallway' means a no targetable ability.

Haven't there been other instances during the nightphases where Person A has been "looking for someone"? It makes no sense that Crychon would change the wording unless it was for a different circumstance.

Michael Bluth, maybe he'd resort to a sucker punch but I kind of doubt it. And I don't think the taunting fits. I guess he'd be my second choice just for lack of alternatives.

I don't know enough about the character to be honest.

Hiro is all about honor, I highly doubt he'd sucker punch anyone.

He's also not very good at fighting (at least in the beginning of Heroes), so he'd take any chance he could get.

Walter, I'm not terribly familiar with the character, but I wouldn't expect that to be the way he'd handle being attacked. Being a Vietnam vet and all, I think he's familiar enough with violence that he would just fight back if attacked.

Walter would do anything to win.

But what would only one negative vote accomplish? It wasn't likely to save masterded unless we were close to the deadline, which we weren't. If he was trying to bus his Don to appear more town, not that he really needed to, why cast a negative vote at all? That just defeats the purpose of bussing him in the first place by calling attention to his known vote manipulation ability.

Bluestar said that he'd originally used the negative vote so that we could have more discussion, is it not possible that he hoped the topic of discussion would've turned back to Slim Jim and myself?

There was a reasonable case to be made for Slim being a cult recruit and possible recruiter, why not push that if he didn't want masterded lynched? I'm just not understanding his motives if he's a Syndicate member.

To appear townie, to delay the lynch of the Don in the hope that discussion turns away from masterded, to only use the one negative vote so it isn't blatantly obvious that it was him doing it etc.

I'm surprised you're still concentrating on the cult when there's a high chance (at least in my eyes) that Bluestar is the remaining Mafia member and that he's one day phase (this day phase) away from winning. With the cult around we still have a chance of winning because we've got more numbers on our side than they have, we don't have that chance with the Mafia because of Bluestars voting ability.

It has been many years since I've seen the show, so I'll concede that bulletproof could fit him. I wouldn't go so far as to say he's "undoubtedly" bulletproof though, as I have plenty of doubt. Or perhaps uncertainty is more accurate.

I'll paraphrase from the show, when he was shot by the hitman "No body was found but there was too much blood in the apartment for him to have survived". But he did survive so there's not one ounce of doubt in my mind that he was bullet-proof. It even goes in line with the ability claim that masterded gave, if he was attacked then there was a chance that he could kill his attacker and masterded would survive. He had to use an ability claim that would fit with his actual ability otherwise we'd have discovered he was lying in the event he was attacked at night.

Undertaker666

08-13-2008, 11:44 PM

So he's bulletproof mafia, or bulletproof cult?

I think he's more likely cult than Mafia because I don't think the Mafia would have two bullet-proof people.

gonvick

08-14-2008, 12:01 AM

I'm surprised you're still concentrating on the cult when there's a high chance (at least in my eyes) that Bluestar is the remaining Mafia member and that he's one day phase (this day phase) away from winning. With the cult around we still have a chance of winning because we've got more numbers on our side than they have, we don't have that chance with the Mafia because of Bluestars voting ability.

We've got the cult down to one last member with a high probability that they will recruit tonight. The mafia hasn't killed anyone for three night phases. The cult has been active, so I'd rather stop them now and then deal with any remaining mafia. But then, I don't think the mafia has a triple vote.

If there was actually a strong case against BlueStar, maybe I'd reconsider. But it seems to mostly be paranoia that he has a triple vote at his disposal.

It even goes in line with the ability claim that masterded gave, if he was attacked then there was a chance that he could kill his attacker and masterded would survive. He had to use an ability claim that would fit with his actual ability otherwise we'd have discovered he was lying in the event he was attacked at night.

But when you were saying that masterded was Ed Norton's character and the cult recruiter, then his claim was likely a lie to discourage CK from trying to kill him. Now that reasoning no longer makes sense? He suddenly has to have been telling the truth about his ability because he turned out to be Syndicate aligned?

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 12:17 AM

We've got the cult down to one last member with a high probability that they will recruit tonight. The mafia hasn't killed anyone for three night phases. The cult has been active, so I'd rather stop them now and then deal with any remaining mafia. But then, I don't think the mafia has a triple vote.

And what does that tell you? The Mafia has been lying low so that we all thought they had been disbanded. Why would they do that? Because they had few remaining members left and the only way they could win was to strike when it was least expected, namely towards the end of the game, which is where we're at now.

If there was actually a strong case against BlueStar, maybe I'd reconsider. But it seems to mostly be paranoia that he has a triple vote at his disposal.

I may be paranoid, but you can't be paranoid about something unless there's something to be paranoid about. Are you certain that he's not Mafia? Of course you're not, we're just looking at it from two different angles, and i'm looking at the worst case scenario like I always do.

But when you were saying that masterded was Ed Norton's character and the cult recruiter, then his claim was likely a lie to discourage CK from trying to kill him. Now that reasoning no longer makes sense? He suddenly has to have been telling the truth about his ability because he turned out to be Syndicate aligned?

Not because he turned out to be Syndicate Aligned, because of who he was, it was truth hidden behind a lie. If he'd turned up as Edward Norton's character then obviously he would have been lying, but now that we know he was CSM we can more certain about his ability due to the character he was:

1. Mafia Don is usually bullet-proof.
2. Character in the TV show has evaded death on more than one occasion, including a shooting.

We can only base our assumptions on what we know at that point in time. Now we know more we can make a more educated guess, and all evidence would point to the fact that he was bullet-proof.

If you want to delve even further into his ability claim vs his TV character, masterded said there was a chance that he could be taken out for a day but he wouldn't die, in the TV show after CSM was shot he disappeared for a period of time with everyone assuming he was dead. Everything other than the character name he gave rings true to the character he actually was.

Astil

08-14-2008, 12:17 AM

Yes he was, but that only proves his ability, not his character.

If he's bulletproof cult why lie about his character?

If he's cult at all why lie? Slim Jim didn't.

Change Vote: No Vote

I'll sleep on this.

Crychon

08-14-2008, 12:20 AM

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 12:28 AM

If he's bulletproof cult why lie about his character?

If he's cult at all why lie? Slim Jim didn't.

Change Vote: No Vote

I'll sleep on this.

Whilst I can't remember exactly when we tested his bullet-proof ability, it was likely that he was recruited after he'd been tested.

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Gonvick, would you mind taking your vote off me for the time being? If Bluestar comes on and gets an itchy lynch finger it's all over before more discussion has been had.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 12:34 AM

If he's bulletproof cult why lie about his character?

If he's cult at all why lie? Slim Jim didn't.

Change Vote: No Vote

I'll sleep on this.

Furthering what I just said, he might've lied if he had a slighty dodgy character that could've been seen as potentially evil. As we've seen with lynching The Shape (Danny the Dog) and jbergey (Bruce Campbell), it's sometimes better to lie about your character if it puts the mind of the town at ease, John McClane is the perfect character claim for a good guy without any doubt about whether he's good or bad.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 12:35 AM

Anyway, it's 6:35am, about time I got some sleep.

Later y'all.

BlueStar

08-14-2008, 12:38 AM

I don't think Miho would be Syndicate aligned. If there is yet another Syndicate member left I think it's foolinc. The write up where he was attacked has never really seemed much like John McClane to me. He could be bulletproof scum.

But I'm more interested in finishing off the cult. They've recruited every other night since TEOR's death. If that pattren holds tru, then they'll recruit again tonight. Which is worse than the mafia killing someone. So even if Blue is scum, which I don't think he is, I think he'd be the wrong way to go.

And I'm still of the idea that Ron Birgundy fits the Nght 11 recuitee better than anyone else. So...

Vote: Undertaker666

Bluestar is who currently concerns me the most. With only seven of us left and four needed to lynch, his ability to add two extra votes can be devastating if he's the red Mafia member that masterded/CSM was whispering instructions to.

The red Mafia can obviously choose not to kill during the nightphase or we wouldn't have let masterded go undetected for so long. If we lynch a townie and Bluestar attacks during the nightphase then there'll be five of us left and three votes needed to lynch, Bluestar can have three votes all by himself due to being able to add two extra votes so he can win even though he's the sole remaining red Mafia. It would also explain why we needed extra votes to lynch masterded/CSM because Bluestar would have added negative votes.

Vote: Bluestar

Fact: I've been investigated, I've been watched, D_W_W knew my ability...if I could kill at night, I think that would have been confirmed by now.

If he's bulletproof cult why lie about his character?

If he's cult at all why lie? Slim Jim didn't.

Change Vote: No Vote

I'll sleep on this.

I think we are down to the last recruit...and 'Taker's been acting the strangest. I need to review and see where he might have gotten recruited. Or anyone else for that matter.

BlueStar

08-14-2008, 12:41 AM

I may be paranoid, but you can't be paranoid about something unless there's something to be paranoid about. Are you certain that he's not Mafia? Of course you're not, we're just looking at it from two different angles, and i'm looking at the worst case scenario like I always do.

Look at who I voted on....

Shape, town...vote -2
Destiny : vote goes up
Tyler Durden : vote up
Masterded : pushed his bulletproof claim.

Now tell me which side of mafia I'm supposed to be on...

BlueStar

08-14-2008, 12:45 AM

Both recruits on N9 and N11 were "going" somewhere...who's claiming a night ability?

Gonvick : no
Trypio : no
Foolinc : no
Astil : no
BlueStar : no
RKO_HBK : no
Undertaker : yes

The only one left were Slim and Cyberkitten...Cyber's turned out town, as expected.

Remember the building exploding at the end of Fight Club...I think Fight Club is down to one member now for the first time during this game and I think, if Ed Norton's character is in here, he'd about to escape or something.

Crychon

08-14-2008, 12:48 AM

Well, need to get some sleep, here's the most recent vote count once again:

It is now day phase thirteen You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

BlueStar: 1 (Undertaker666)
Undertaker666: 1 (gonvick)

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

Astil

08-14-2008, 12:54 AM

Hmmm...
Change of heart.

Change Vote: Undertaker666

You are good enough to pull this off. I just think somethings too fishy with the way your pushing.

gonvick

08-14-2008, 12:54 AM

And what does that tell you? The Mafia has been lying low so that we all thought they had been disbanded. Why would they do that? Because they had few remaining members left and the only way they could win was to strike when it was least expected, namely towards the end of the game, which is where we're at now.

It would be the first time I've seen a mafia that could choose not to kill. As long as so much of our discussion has been about what is typical in a mafia game, it might be worth considering the impact of that. It seems Crychon has done at least that part different than what would be expected.

I may be paranoid, but you can't be paranoid about something unless there's something to be paranoid about. Are you certain that he's not Mafia? Of course you're not, we're just looking at it from two different angles, and i'm looking at the worst case scenario like I always do.

I would be surprised if he was mafia. I'm not saying that I can completely rule it out, but I'm confident enough that I'd rather not lynch him. Because besides being a threat if he's scum, he's also quite useful in making a cult win harder to achieve if he's town. So I'm willing to go with what I think is the more likely scenario.

Not because he turned out to be Syndicate Aligned, because of who he was, it was truth hidden behind a lie. If he'd turned up as Edward Norton's character then obviously he would have been lying, but now that we know he was CSM we can more certain about his ability due to the character he was:

1. Mafia Don is usually bullet-proof.
2. Character in the TV show has evaded death on more than one occasion, including a shooting.

We can only base our assumptions on what we know at that point in time. Now we know more we can make a more educated guess, and all evidence would point to the fact that he was bullet-proof.

If you want to delve even further into his ability claim vs his TV character, masterded said there was a chance that he could be taken out for a day but he wouldn't die, in the TV show after CSM was shot he disappeared for a period of time with everyone assuming he was dead. Everything other than the character name he gave rings true to the character he actually was.

I'll agree that the ability he claimed more or less fits with his charater. I'm just saying that the motive for lying that you attributed to him in the event that he was someone else could still apply to his current character. I understand why you might think that he really was bulletproof, I just think he could have been something else without misrepresenting that character.

So I guess I'm just not sure enough either way to make a definate conclusion on foolinc on that basis. Though I will say that I think he's either is the last Syndicate member or town aligned. I don't think John McClane fits any of the recruits and he'd have no reason to lie about who he is if he was a bulletproof townie.

BlueStar

08-14-2008, 01:01 AM

Vote: Undertaker666 - normal vote btw...

The recruitee on both N9 and N11 were going somewhere...only thing that adds up really.

BlueStar

08-14-2008, 07:41 AM

Hmmmm...too quiet...shall we end this phase and see eachother in Star Wars II?

blackphoenix

08-14-2008, 07:45 AM

Hmmmm...too quiet...shall we end this phase and see eachother in Star Wars II?

/zombie..

ooooooh.... foreshadowing..

/dies again.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 08:41 AM

Hmmmm...too quiet...shall we end this phase and see eachother in Star Wars II?

Woah! At least let me reply to what you've said since i've been gone.

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:00 AM

It is now day phase thirteen You have until 8:00 PM EST Friday, August 15th (1:00 AM Saturday, August 16th GMT) to reach a majority decision.

Undertaker666: 3 (gonvick, Astil, BlueStar)
BlueStar: 1 (Undertaker666)

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

foolinc

08-14-2008, 09:01 AM

I'm about to celebrate my little sister's 18th birthday with a trip to our local (using that term loosely) Indian Casino! Oh and IMO Taker is scum, hammer time!

Vote: Undertaker666

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:04 AM

Fact: I've been investigated, I've been watched, D_W_W knew my ability...if I could kill at night, I think that would have been confirmed by now.

Not so. The Mafia only has one kill at night and we've already taken out a large portion of them. Just because you haven't had the ability before doesn't mean that the nightkill ability hasn't passed on to you now, especially since you're the last of them.

Both recruits on N9 and N11 were "going" somewhere...who's claiming a night ability?

Gonvick : no
Trypio : no
Foolinc : no
Astil : no
BlueStar : no
RKO_HBK : no
Undertaker : yes

The only one left were Slim and Cyberkitten...Cyber's turned out town, as expected.

Again, not so. The Nightphase 11 wording is different to the Night 9 wording. Plus Astil was wandering about last night (targeted RKO_HBK) so he does have a night ability. There wasn't a kill or a recruitment last night but that doesn't alter the fact that he lied about having no ability anymore.

Hmmm...
Change of heart.

Change Vote: Undertaker666

You are good enough to pull this off. I just think somethings too fishy with the way your pushing.

If I think someone's scummy, i'll push. You can't deny what i'm saying, if Bluestar is Mafia, as I think he is, then he has won the game if he isn't lynched.

It would be the first time I've seen a mafia that could choose not to kill. As long as so much of our discussion has been about what is typical in a mafia game, it might be worth considering the impact of that. It seems Crychon has done at least that part different than what would be expected.

They must have been able to choose not to kill, otherwise masterded wouldn't have been able to lay for such a long time because the Mafia killings would have continued in the nightphases.

So I guess I'm just not sure enough either way to make a definate conclusion on foolinc on that basis. Though I will say that I think he's either is the last Syndicate member or town aligned. I don't think John McClane fits any of the recruits and he'd have no reason to lie about who he is if he was a bulletproof townie.

He'd have every reason to lie. As I mentioned with the Shape and jbergey, it's often better to lie if people will think you've got an iffy role-claim, especially if you've got a bullet-proof role because people will think you're the Don.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:04 AM

I'm about to celebrate my little sister's 18th birthday with a trip to our local (using that term loosely) Indian Casino! Oh and IMO Taker is scum, hammer time!

Vote: Undertaker666

Charming, you couldn't even wait a few minutes? :rolleyes:

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:04 AM

Lynch has been achieved! A writeup will follow shortly!

trypio

08-14-2008, 09:06 AM

Vote: Undertaker666

To be sure...

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:21 AM

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/HollywoodHorror.jpg

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY – DAY THIRTEEN

As the crowd had significantly thinned out, they looked at each other carefully. One man stepped forward, and immediately pointed the first finger.

“It’s her! She did this! She’s a scorpion woman!”

The crowd all turned around and looked at the man who spoke, they slowly started walking toward him.

“Really? We think it’s you!”

“Me? Come on! I’m legendary local anchor man Ron Burgundy! I’m not the bad guy type!”

The crowd wouldn’t hear a word of it, and didn’t back off.

“You guys are all making a huge mistake! I’m not the one you’re looking for!”

Eventually, the man realized that there was no getting out of this, he looked very distraught.

“Ugh… I am really in a pickle.”

They put the rope around his neck.

“Well, you stay classy Hollywood Hotel!”

A man stepped forward, pushed him.

“Yippie-kay-yay, motherf*cker!”

The crowd watched as Undertaker666’s life ended.

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Final Vote Count:
Undertaker666: 4 (gonvick, Astil, BlueStar, foolinc)
BlueStar: 1 (Undertaker666)

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to lynch.

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Undertaker666 is dead, he was Ron Burgundy, Project Mayhem Aligned Always Classy Anchorman

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Casualties:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/RonBurgundy.jpg

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:22 AM

Arse.

Comradebot

08-14-2008, 09:26 AM

/zombie Anton

Dear god, it isn't over?

C'mon, STAR WARS!

Also, I'm pretty sure Sylar stole my coin... can someone dig it out of his grave and put it in mine?

Thanks.

/zombie Anton off

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:26 AM

Oh... I think I might've forgotten to say something...

The Convention Wins!

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:27 AM

Oh... I think I might've forgotten to say something...

The Convention Wins!

Wooooooooooooo! We won! :D

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:28 AM

Wooooooooooooo! We won! :D

That's true, you did technically half win, heh.

cyberkitten01

08-14-2008, 09:28 AM

Yaaaay! Great game everyone. I really believed Undertaker666 was innocent, so fantastic lynch guys :D

Yaaaay for my death not being in vain :D

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:28 AM

Epilogues and analysis and whatnot will begin after I have some breakfast.

Comradebot

08-14-2008, 09:29 AM

I spoke too soon!

So can I now tell everyone my role and all my plans I had that were ruined by Sylar on Night 2?

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:30 AM

I spoke too soon!

So can I now tell everyone my role and all my plans I had that were ruined by Sylar on Night 2?

You can go with the plans, I'll be posting role PMs and stuff like that in a bit.

masterded

08-14-2008, 09:36 AM

With the bad luck the mafia had I can't believe we made it all the way to day 12. Good job town and I am happy to see that the cult didn’t win.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:36 AM

That's true, you did technically half win, heh.

Why did Smoochy die in the first place? I had a gun people, I HAD A GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

Yaaaay! Great game everyone. I really believed Undertaker666 was innocent, so fantastic lynch guys :D

lol, this is why people are scared of me. :D

Yaaaay for my death not being in vain :D

Sorry about that, had to see if I could make it through the dayphase to make another recruitment. If you were still wandering around at night you could've taken out me or my recruit so Project Mayhem would've been back down to one person. So close....

RKO_HBK

08-14-2008, 09:37 AM

Damn, I missed the end! Well, yay we won! That's the first time I've made it to the end of a Mafia game! :D

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:38 AM

With the bad luck the mafia had I can't believe we made it all the way to day 12. Good job town and I am happy to see that the cult didn’t win.

lol, believe me when I say you were a surprise and a half. I was just pushing for you to be lynched so that me or Slim didn't get killed. When you turned up as CSM I almost fell off my chair. :D

Comradebot

08-14-2008, 09:38 AM

Awesome...

Well, this was my first mafia game and sadly I made it to the second day. /clap for me.

Essentially, as Anton Chigurh I was a Serial Killer. Like the noob I was on Night 1, I went after Imarevanent first only to have someone else kill him, no biggie... though I should've predicted he was about to die.

After Night 1 I had a list of people who I considered scum and possibly Sylar, including

I Effin Rule, seemed shifty
mdjgoldeneye, was obvious scum from the get go
ford, he didn't post but was on the board... really made me nervous

And guess what? I was right! If only I'd acted on my suspicion of ford on Night 1...

Anywho, my plan basically became to start offing townies and let the mafia and Sylar HOPEFULLY do some of the nasty work for me. After the whole Zoolander debacle I was confident that treton was in fact Zoolander, and that he was a townie... And then I guess I ruined the mafia's clever scheme by killing him.

And then Sylar killed me.

After that, I spent a great deal of timing silently screaming in my head that mdjgoldeneye and IER were scum.

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:41 AM

Why did Smoochy die in the first place? I had a gun people, I HAD A GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!

lol, this is why people are scared of me. :D

Sorry about that, had to see if I could make it through the dayphase to make another recruitment. If you were still wandering around at night you could've taken out me or my recruit so Project Mayhem would've been back down to one person. So close....

To be 100% honest with you... The gun was only there so Smoochy would end up on every forensic investigator's mafia suspect list. :p

Oh, also, you're VERY lucky Rainbow Randolph was one of the roles I had to cut.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:45 AM

To be 100% honest with you... The gun was only there so Smoochy would end up on every forensic investigator's mafia suspect list. :p

Oh, also, you're VERY lucky Rainbow Randolph was one of the roles I had to cut.

What a jip! That's NOT what you told me when I asked you about the gun. I wouldn't have screamed from the rooftops that I was Smoochy if I didn't think I couldn't protect myself! :rolleyes:

masterded

08-14-2008, 09:45 AM

lol, believe me when I say you were a surprise and a half. I was just pushing for you to be lynched so that me or Slim didn't get killed. When you turned up as CSM I almost fell off my chair. :D

Just imagine how it must feel to realize that you are the only person left who's role hasn't at least been established and the only mafia person left. So I said screw it and decided to not kill (I was the don just in case it is not clear).

Now here is a question how did no one put together the whole me going on and on for a few posts about being gumless and the whole John Nada thing? (Which was the RC I was going to go with and miscommunication ended up with me hinting at what another mafia member rced latter that day)

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:46 AM

In fact, as it wouldn't make sense for him to show up in a possible sequel, I'll post his role before the other ones:

You are Rainbow Randolph, Individually Aligned Disgruntled Ex-Kids Show Host
Of “Death To Smoochy” Fame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4bqhdr4wCo

You had it all! You had a #1 hit television show, people loved you! When you walked into the restroom to take a piss, they’d clear the way for you! Why? Because you’re Rainbow F*cking Randolph, that’s why!

Well, everything changed when one person came up and grabbed up your timeslot! That was, of course, Smoochy The Rhino. That one-horned carpet bagger is getting a free ride on your dime, and you think it’s about time that you did something about it!

Every night you can PM me the name of someone who you think is Smoochy. When you find Smoochy, you will have a choice to make before the following night phase.

Your win conditions are determined by what happens if/when you find Smoochy.

EDIT: Oh, forgot to post the choices: He could choose to either make up with, and befriend Smoochy, thus becoming another two man mason group, or kill Smoochy, in which case he would steal Smoochy's gun, kill him, and become another, albiet reduced effectiveness, SK. So yeah.... I can see how the gun thing is a bit of a jip. :) Smoochy is way too much of a pacifist to actually do anything with it.

Crychon

08-14-2008, 09:47 AM

What a jip! That's NOT what you told me when I asked you about the gun. I wouldn't have screamed from the rooftops that I was Smoochy if I didn't think I couldn't protect myself! :rolleyes:

There was also something attached to Rainbow Randolph as well.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 09:58 AM

EDIT: Oh, forgot to post the choices: He could choose to either make up with, and befriend Smoochy, thus becoming another two man mason group, or kill Smoochy, in which case he would steal Smoochy's gun, kill him, and become another, albiet reduced effectiveness, SK. So yeah.... I can see how the gun thing is a bit of a jip. :) Smoochy is way too much of a pacifist to actually do anything with it.

From the pm when I asked you about whether I could use the gun to kill, or just use it for protection:

Well, you're a pacifist, you won't need to use it, most likely... Unless of course they f with the wrong rhino! :)

If someone had said the same thing to you, would you not have thought you had a gun to protect yourself with?

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:05 AM

From the pm when I asked you about whether I could use the gun to kill, or just use it for protection:

If someone had said the same thing to you, would you not have thought you had a gun to protect yourself with?

Well, I wasn't going to flat out say what the entire use of the gun was. Even at the end of the film, when Smoochy had the gun, and thought he was going to use it, it was pretty obvious he wasn't really going to, it certainly wouldn't make any sense at all to give him a PGO role or anything similar.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 10:13 AM

Well, I wasn't going to flat out say what the entire use of the gun was.

You didn't have to mention anything about the forensic stuff, but you more than implied that I could use it for protection.

Even at the end of the film, when Smoochy had the gun, and thought he was going to use it, it was pretty obvious he wasn't really going to, it certainly wouldn't make any sense at all to give him a PGO role or anything similar.

He was stopped from shooting at the end of the movie because he had people to talk him down. Anyway, the role didn't have to involve killing anyone, just pointing a gun at most people is enough to scare them away, which is what I thought would happen if anyone targeted me.

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:14 AM

You didn't have to mention anything about the forensic stuff, but you more than implied that I could use it for protection.

He was stopped from shooting at the end of the movie because he had people to talk him down. Anyway, the role didn't have to involve killing anyone, just pointing a gun at most people is enough to scare them away, which is what I thought would happen if anyone targeted me.

There were already far too many people who could fend off attacks one way or another. Having the same for Smoochy definitely would've been overkill.

d_w_w

08-14-2008, 10:15 AM

Nice game all.

I wasn't sure how it would end up, as I read along at the end.

And... if UT gets a half win, do I get a double win ? :p

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:17 AM

Nice game all.

I wasn't sure how it would end up, as I read along at the end.

And... if UT gets a half win, do I get a double win ? :p

Hehe yeah, I guess so.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 10:24 AM

There were already far too many people who could fend off attacks one way or another. Having the same for Smoochy definitely would've been overkill.

But he's Smoochy, he should've been able to defend himself by being to cuddly for anyone to kill. :(

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:25 AM

But he's Smoochy, he should've been able to defend himself by being to cuddly for anyone to kill. :(

I made a mistake sending you that PM, I'll admit it, sorry. It was before the game, and I should've just said the damn thing was useless.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 10:30 AM

I made a mistake sending you that PM, I'll admit it, sorry. It was before the game, and I should've just said the damn thing was useless.

Apology accepted. I'm still going to kill you if i'm Mafia in Star Wars though.... I will have my revenge! ;)

i effin rule

08-14-2008, 10:31 AM

Gah! I thought I was playing a pretty good townie game up until I got recruited. lol getting recruited at the exact moment the crap hits the fan for Project Mayhem.

Oh, and I've had many a laugh about killing Rev night one. Really, what are the chances that he, of all people, claims my character in the first phase, AND I have a night kill at my disposal.

Wallbanger

08-14-2008, 10:38 AM

Half a win is better than no win, I guess. :)

Hartigan didn't live long enough to really make a difference (but he did, indeed, protect UT that first night).

As Captain Jack, I actually had to tell Crychon right away when I got the role whether I wanted to be recruitable or not. I could have chosen not to be, but where would the fun have been in that? :cool:

Besides, it was much more fun watching y'all go nuts -- why won't this ************ DIE ALREADY!

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:38 AM

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/HollywoodHorror.jpg

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, LOBBY – EPILOGUE

After the lynching of Ron Burgundy, the remaining members of the convention looked at each other, and realized that none of them wanted to kill each other. John McClane smiled, and lit up a cigarette.

JOHN MCCLANE
“I don’t know about you guys, but I want to get the f*ck out of here!”

The remaining members of the crowd all nodded at each other, and started to head up to their rooms to get their things.

WALTER
“Guys, wait…”

They stopped.

WALTER
“I think, before we leave, we should pay our respects to the fallen…”

They nodded, and they all each paid their individual respects to those who had fallen over the course of this bloodbath.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, MIHO’S ROOM - EPILOGUE

Miho didn’t pack much, because she didn’t really need too much. She had been of great use to this convention, but she was ready to head back to Sin City, where she was also needed. She cleaned off her katana, and was on her way.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, JOHN MCCLANE’S ROOM – EPILOGUE

John walked into his room, and looked around. He smiled.

John picked up his things, and headed for the door. When he left the hotel, he was greeted by his old friend, Sgt. Al Powell.

AL
“Well John, looks like you did it again.”

Al walked up and hugged him. John smiled.

JOHN
“Yup, another bloodbath survived. Now, I think it’s time to maybe go home, and try to relax a bit…”

Al smiled.

AL
“John, you and I both know that never happens!”

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, MICHAEL BLUTH’s ROOM – EPILOGUE

This convention had been very hard for Michael. He came to this convention expecting to have a good time, but all he left with was three dead family members, and a lot on his mind. He packed his things up, and sighed. Just as he was about to leave, he decided to pick up the phone, and dial home.

GEORGE MICHAEL
“Hey dad, are you still doing alright?”

MICHAEL
“Sure am, looks like I’ll be heading home now!”

GEORGE MICHAEL
“Great! It’ll be good to see you, Gob, Tobias, and Pop Pop again.”

Michael sighed.

MICHAEL
“Yeah… About that…”

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, HIRO NAKAMURA’S ROOM – EPILOGUE

Hiro didn’t really know what to expect when he came to this convention. He was just as excited to meet characters from other shows as he was to be a featured character himself. Now, after all of this, and after many strong people had fallen, Hiro was still standing, and he took pride in this. He walked out of the hotel, to be met by his friend, Ando.

ANDO
“Hiro! There you are! You made it!”

Hiro nodded.

HIRO
“Yes, I did!”

ANDO
“So, did you finally get to become the hero you said you’d become.”

Hiro nodded, and they walked off.

INT. HOLLYWOOD HOTEL, THE DUDE’S ROOM – EPILOGUE

The Dude walked into his room and looked around. He was amazed that he had made it this far, when so many people with a killer instinct and more of a will to survive had fallen. The Dude, however, wasn’t really one to dwell too much on things like that, he put his things in a bag, and decided to stop by his mini-fridge to make one more White Russian for the road. Walter Sobchak entered the room, smiling.

WALTER
“Well Dude, we made it!”

The Dude smiled.

THE DUDE
“Yeah Walter, we sure did…”

WALTER
“I told you we’d do it, didn’t I?”

The Dude sighed.

THE DUDE
“Yeah, you did… Now, I think we should get the f*ck out of here!”

Walter smiled.

WALTER
“Dude, I think it has been far too long since we’ve been bowling, what do you say?”

The Dude took another sip from his White Russian.

THE DUDE
“The Dude abides...”

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gonvick has survived, he was Walter Sobchak, Convention Aligned Bowler And Vietnam Vet
Astil has survived, he was Michael Bluth, Convention Aligned Level Headed Voice Of Reason
trypio has survived, he was The Dude, Convention Aligned Bowler And Deadbeat
foolinc has survived, he was John McClane, Convention Aligned Action Hero
BlueStar has survived, he was Miho, Convention Aligned Deadly Little Assassin
RKO_HBK has survived, he was Hiro Nakamura, Convention Aligned Master Of Space And Time

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Survivors:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/WalterSobchak.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/MichaelBluth.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/TheDude.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/JohnMcClane.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/Miho.jpghttp://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Graveyard/HiroNakamura.jpg

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:40 AM

Wallbanger

08-14-2008, 10:43 AM

You also could've been recruited into the red mafia, had you been attacked, even after you joined Fight Club. You would've been able to play all of the sides.

That would have been cool, but then I could only claim one-third of a win. :rolleyes:

Still, my unlynched streak remains intact, despite a close call this time!

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:44 AM

Ok, now onto writeup/role analysis.

Undertaker666

08-14-2008, 10:44 AM

You also could've been recruited into the red mafia, had you been attacked, even after you joined Fight Club. You would've been able to play all of the sides.

:eek:

Glotnot

08-14-2008, 10:45 AM

I know I asked to be recruited into the Bluthes, but I stopped liking it when I found out we were scum, and a Townie knew who we were. -.-

Crychon

08-14-2008, 10:46 AM

I know I asked to be recruited into the Bluthes, but I stopped liking it when I found out we were scum, and a Townie knew who we were. -.-

You picked the exact wrong time to target one of them. Had you targeted one of them at any time during the game, you would've joined. You just happened to do it the same night they turned. :p

Crychon

08-14-2008, 11:04 AM

Ok, the survivor's roles:

gonvick:
You are Walter Sobchak, Convention Aligned Bowler And Vietnam Vet
Of “The Big Lewbowski” Fame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED4VL7W6VdQ&feature=related

Originally looking forward to a night chock full of quality bowling, and drinking a few beers at your favorite bowling alley, that sadly did not come to pass. A good friend of yours, The Dude, said he heard of this place that had free food and drinks, and that doing something different for the night wouldn’t hurt.

Man was he wrong.

Well, anyway, here you are, stuck in this situation, and you didn’t even think to bring your bowling bag with your trusty pistol! It’s going to be like ‘Nam again, and the bad guys are just waiting to come out of the woodworks and take you down.

You do have one asset, luckily, and that is The Dude, You have the ability to communicate with him outside of the thread.

The Dude – trypio

You had friends who died face down in the muck so they could enjoy this fancy convention, and you’re not about to go down without trying to help the town end this!

You win when all threats to the convention are eliminated.

Basic mason role, would've been recruitable into Fight Club.

trypio:
You are The Dude, Convention Aligned Bowler And Deadbeat
Of “The Big Lebowski” Fame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED4VL7W6VdQ&feature=related

You heard about this place where they were having free food and drinks for the night, and decided that rather than spending the night bowling, you and your friend Walter would head down to this convention and check it out.

It’s pretty far out! There was food everywhere, pretty women, and as many White Russians as you could drink! Then that whole bloodbath thing started to break out.What a bummer. Anyway, you brought Walter with you, so at least you have someone to talk to. You may communicate with Walter Sobchak, outside of the thread.

Walter Sobchak – gonvick

You’re pretty laid back, but it’s pretty hard to chill out at this place. This aggression will not stand, man!

You win when all threats to the convention are eliminated.

Basic mason role, unrecruitable to Fight Club, he's a pacifist!

Astil:
You are Michael Bluth, Convention Aligned Level Headed Voice Of Reason
Of “Arrested Development” Fame

You have no idea why it is that God was so cruel to you, and that you were born into the family you were born into. They are only ever out for themselves, they lie, and steal to get whatever it is they want, and they don’t seem to want to take no for an answer.

You have always been the voice of reason in the Bluth family, trying to talk them out of doing stupid things. Though, it seems as though they never listen.

You start the game with a choice. You have a feeling that your family is about to do something really stupid, you’re just not sure exactly what. In the past, you’ve tried to talk them out of doing these stupid things, but it never seems to work anyway. Your choice is this: If your family so happens to do something stupid, you must choose to either A.) Break of from your family, staying with the town, and distancing yourself from them. Or: B.) Continue to stick with your family, and hope to talk some sense into them.

If you choose option A, you will lose your outside communication with your family. It’d probably be best to keep this decision from your family. With that said, at any point during the game, as long as you are on good terms, you can communicate with your father, George and your brother Gob outside of the game thread.

George Bluth – The Aussie
Gob Bluth – The Rock 13

You win when all threats to the convention are eliminated.

I'd say this role was a failed social experiment. I wanted to have a role where someone had the burden of knowing something might be up with their family, but the strong indication that they should, and the character wouldn't sell his family out. Well, wouldn't you know it, quicker than two winks of a coal miner's eye, Astil sold his family out, and the rest is history. Had he stuck with the family, he would've become:

You are now Michael Bluth, Bluth Company Aligned Reluctant, But Loyal Son
Of “Arrested Development” Fame

You really can’t believe that you made the decision you just made. However, you are many things, hard working, honest, nice, and most of all, loyal. Well, it’s appearing as though you might just end up being hard-working and loyal now!

Every night you can PM me to do some public relations work on one of your family members, and make it so that one ends up coming up town when they’re investigated.

You win when the number of players in your faction is equal to, or greater than the remaining amount of players.

He would've become the publicist for the Bluth Company. As he didn't, I had it so he would be vanilla for the rest of the game, as Michael would have to deal with the guilt of leaving his family. He was recruitable to fight club after his family was dead.

foolinc:
You are John McClane, Convention Aligned Action Hero
Of “Die Hard” Fame

Your first near brush with death was when you were accidentally invited to a Christmas party by mistake. Then you were battling terrorists at an airport. Then you had to take down a mad terrorist who was going to set off bombs all over New York. Finally you had to battle some cyber-terrorists who wanted to completely disable the United States. You’re getting too old for this sh*t…

Well, it seems as though you’ve gotten yourself into another sticky situation, and once again, by chance. Or was it? It seemed as though you received this invitation to appear at this convention in error, but at this point, you can’t really tell.

One thing you’ve got going for you is that you’ve been in these situations before, you have an experience edge, and nobody is going to be able to take you down in a one on one situation… So you are immune to night kills. You really just want to make sure that you, and as many people as you can help get out of here alive.

Yippee-ki-yay, motherf*cker.

You win when all threats to the convention are eliminated.

Standard bulletproof role, figured it'd fit McClane as he always survived crazy situations. Recruitable to Fight Club.

BlueStar:
You are Miho, Convention Aligned Deadly Little Assassin
Of “Sin City” Fame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ftsvamy86I

Deadly Little Miho. You can move without being heard, you can kill without it even being felt… Unless of course you want them to. Well, it seems as though most of the time that you’re here, you’re going to want anyone who comes across you to feel it.

You have the ability to inflict great amounts of pain, but only when you want them to. During the day phase you may vote, as you would normally, and not have your vote count any more than it ever would. You also, however have the ability to do one of two other things with your vote.

During the day phase you may choose to send me a PM, and in that PM you can decide whether you want to make the vote not hurt at all (i.e. not count) or you can choose to inflict a great amount of pain. You can choose how much pain you inflict, causing your vote to count for two or three, your choice. Keep in mind that you must PM me to use either of these abilities, however, because if I don’t receive a PM, your vote will be counted normally. You may also send me a PM in the night phase telling me how you want your vote to count the next day, if you so choose.

You win when all threats to the convention are eliminated.

After Hartigan died (which came quicker than I thought it would):
After seeing your fellow Sin City resident fall, you have decided to be able to use your ability for heroic means as well as those that are deadly. In addition to having your vote count for what it does now, you may choose to have it count for up to 2 negative votes, if someone is being lynched that you don’t feel should be.

This role made things quite confusing at times. It was a very powerful role that was used on many occasions. I wanted to try and make this role different, making it so Miho could make the vote hurt as much as she wanted (counting for up to 3), but she could also save people, making it count for -2. Unrecruitable to Fight Club, as she was a woman.

RKO_HBK:
You are Hiro Nakamura, Convention Aligned Master Of Space And Time
Of “Heroes” Fame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raQ1zpc8jL8

For a while now you have known that you are something special. You have told a bunch of people this, and that you are a hero, but they have laughed and called you a liar. Now is your chance to prove them all wrong!

You have found out, though, that you have the power to control space and time, and now you are going to be able to use that to your advantage.

Once during the game, at any time you choose, you may PM me to say that you want to alter space and time, and return to the beginning of the previous day phase. If done during the day, it will reverse the previous day’s lynching and night kills, however the town will still know who everyone was. If activated during the night it will merely reverse the lynch.

The power of space and time is in your hands. It’s up to you now to determine how you use it, and to determine if you will be a hero.

You win when all threats to the convention are eliminated.

Role would've reversed any lynches/night kills, depending on when it was used. As it was used after the unsuccessful lynch on Jack, Jack just got his ability back. Unrecruitable to Fight Club.