Freegreen Heights Mafia Sign-Ups

[mjdgoldeneye]

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Come visit the picturesque community of Freegreen Heights. Nestled in a bright corner of the American Midwest, Freegreen Heights offers a safe, comfortable, and laid back lifestyle.

Want to get away from the hustle and bustle of everyday life? Want to just put your feet up and relax? Fear that today's society has become a corrupt and horrid abomination? If so, our community has much to offer.

Boasting the lowest crime rate within 875 miles, our town is the kind of place where you can leave your doors unlocked at night (or, during the day for that matter).

Are you the active type? Join the Freegreen Heights Athletic Club and enjoy our Olympic sized swimming pool, racquetball courts, shooting range, and full gym.

Are you more laid back? Visit the public library or the Dodsrod Llesing Memorial Explosives Museum.

Not convinced yet? Freegreen Heights has it's own professional police force and fire department. Have children? Our schools are the highest rated in the state!

Come visit Freegreen Heights today. Once you step inside the front gates, you'll never be able to leave!

Announcement: On Thursday evening, we will be officially opening our new town hall! Located on the corner of Oak & Main, our new facility will allow the community to meet, organize, and discuss matters in an aesthetically pleasing open forum. On hand with us that night will be Freegreen Heights mayor Walter Exposition and U.S. Senator David Logan.

Note: Housing opportunities offered after a mandatory, in-depth background check. Those who do not comply will be refused. Residents of Freegreen Heights are required to follow the guidelines set forth by the Freegreen Heights Goodwill Association. Rules include: No long-haired dogs or cats allowed, no clotheslines allowed, no above ground pools allowed, no tricycles allowed, no saxophone music after 8:00 PM allowed, and absolutely no snow throwers allowed.

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1. Olivier le Fou
2. Jaded
3. Dragonmack
4. GruntMark
5. Tha Black Phenom
6. masterded
7. praguepride
8. Jman2K3
9. BHK1978
10. Astil
11. SGRaaize
12. Paws7297
13. Comradebot
14. bak42
15. Destiny
16. Wrestling Century
17. i effin rule
18. ShadowedFlames
19. JackalBane
20. Waghlon
21. trypio
22. Teh_Showtime
23. Imarevenant
24. Prophet
25. Inadvertant

Waiting List:

1. Moon_lit_tears
2. MichiganHero
3. cappyboy

[Olivier le Fou]

If Mass Effect Mafia got switched with this one to accomodate the lesser activity around here, count me in.

I was pumped for ME Mafia, but I'll make due.

No rule against pretending that this is still it, and Shepard is just visiting a really... White Collared Suburbia Neighborhood Planet.

Quite the anomoly.

:p

[Jaded]

MJD modding, fun as heck looking background, AND OLF signed up?

I'm in!

[Dragonmack]

count me in

[GruntMark]

I'll play.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Only if OLF and I can be cult together again. In.

[masterded]

Sign me up.

[moon_lit_tears]

Reserves for now plz

[praguepride]

/in.

[MichiganHero]

I'll bite. Colour me in.

[Imarevenant]

Are you more laid back? Visit the public library or the Dodsrod Llesing Memorial Explosives Museum.

Awesome! :p


Have another trip coming up soon or I'd jump in on this one. I'll read along regardless though.

[Jman2k3]

In.

[bak42]

Reserves please.

[BHK1978]

I would like to take part in this.

[Paws7297]

Rserves.

[Jman2k3]

Rserves.

No Paws allowed. :p

[Astil]

A) In

B) Phone getting internet on the 18th

C) Going to make it a priority to post more to drive up participation. Call it the Astil Discussion Stimulus Package.

[SGRaaize]

I'm in, I don't even remember the last time I played around these parts, but I love me sum Mafia gaming

[SmartBomb]

/in, I suppose.

[BlueStar]

I'm in, I don't even remember the last time I played around these parts, but I love me sum Mafia gaming

I'm pretty sure I don't remember and my memory is like a clockwork... good luck!

[Comradebot]

I should be free to play again when this gets started, count me in.

[bak42]

Since this won't be starting before VGM2 ends, go ahead and bump me up to the main list.

[cappyboy]

Been trying to decide if I want to play this one or not. This is probably a game where I'd be rooting to be scum and yet I'm so bad at playing heel in these games. Definitely the right size for me though and I did fare well in a similarly themed E-Ville.

[Destiny]

Now that I've been killed in both of the currently running games, please sign me up for this one.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I should be free to play again when this gets started, count me in.

Fact: The composition professor I had looks EXACTLY like Zaeed.

http://academic.scranton.edu/department/ctle/staff/images/kratz.jpg

His hair looks different, but there's definitely a resemblance. (More-so IRL.)

Been trying to decide if I want to play this one or not. This is probably a game where I'd be rooting to be scum and yet I'm so bad at playing heel in these games. Definitely the right size for me though and I did fare well in a similarly themed E-Ville.

You'll probably enjoy it. It should be pretty smooth going. No mod lynching necessary in this game... :p

[Haryer]

Im actually running Neoseekers Mass Effect Mafia sometime in the near future, so definitely sign me up for this.

Well call it... Research.

[Destiny]

So I assume we're just waiting for one of the other two games to end and this one can begin?

[MichiganHero]

Move me off of the game list. Maybe onto the reserves list.

[mjdgoldeneye]

So I assume we're just waiting for one of the other two games to end and this one can begin?

After we get 10 more sign-ups and BOTH games end. :D

[Wrestling Century]

I would like to sign up.

[BHK1978]

I would like to sign up.

Glad to have you back WC!

[i effin rule]

In...but on because of the Dodsrod Llesing Memorial Explosives Museum.

[ShadowedFlames]

/in just because.

[Destiny]

Nice to see that the both of you will be taking part in this game, as you're veterans.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Ooh, we're getting close now... kinda... :D

[JackalBane]

If this is going up instead of Mass Effect, I am saddened... but I'll join this one too.

/in

[Wrestling Century]

If this is going up instead of Mass Effect, I am saddened... but I'll join this one too.

/in

Yeah, what happened to the Mass Effect game?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Yeah, what happened to the Mass Effect game?

As was said elsewhere, it didn't get nearly enough sign-ups for it to be viable. I'd have to rebuild the game entirely. Instead, I'll run this. It's smaller and already done.

[Destiny]

We only need six more people to sign up and we can get this game underway. I'm looking forward to it.

[Waghlon]

Seeing how VGM2 is drawing awfully close to a finish, I'm going to join here.

[Destiny]

Awesome, Wahglon. That means that we only need five more people to sign up.

[Comradebot]

I have to say, despite two games already running, I'm a little shocked this hasn't filled up already. It's a smaller game, an original theme, and I believe is warring families style (or was meant to be way, way, way back when).

Typically, that all equals money.

But I'm sure five more will show up as the other two draw closer and closer to their finales.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I have to say, despite two games already running, I'm a little shocked this hasn't filled up already. It's a smaller game, an original theme, and I believe is warring families style (or was meant to be way, way, way back when).

Typically, that all equals money.

But I'm sure five more will show up as the other two draw closer and closer to their finales.

I'm not worried. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes for people to feel like playing. People are burned out, so a slow down is a good idea.

Also, this game has been through more iterations than Duke Nukem Forever... :p

I think at some point Midnightnick was co-mod and then Destiny. However, sincerely, so much has changed that my previous ideas have all been phased out.

[trypio]

Count me in.

[Comradebot]

Four more, let's do this!

[Destiny]

With Video Game Mafia 2 now having concluded, hopefully this game can begin soon.

[Teh_Showtime]

I will be returning to mafia

plz add me

[Prophet]

I'd like to submit my application for residence in Freegreen Heights ... and hope my Charlie Sheen lifestyle doesn't hold me back. :p

[SmartBomb]

I'm out. Sorry.

[Jman2k3]

I'd like to submit my application for residence in Freegreen Heights ... and hope my Charlie Sheen lifestyle doesn't hold me back. :p

You'll be kicked out by the end of the season. :p

[Paws7297]

Go ahead and throw me in Mj.

[Prophet]

You'll be kicked out by the end of the season. :p

Pfft, like I'll be sober enough to remember it happening. My main concern is the noise caused by the hooker in the closet. :p

[bak42]

Pfft, like I'll be sober enough to remember it happening. My main concern is the noise caused by the hooker in the closet. :p

Dead hookers make noise?:p

[Prophet]

Dead hookers make noise?:p

They thump on occasion if not properly held in place. lol

[eayragt]

I might not be around much next weekend and may have to take the odd absence if the games still going on and I'm alive towards the end of March, but if you're happy with that level of activity /in.

[Destiny]

Am I right in thinking that we now have the required amount of players in order to take part?

[mjdgoldeneye]

We'll need at least 25 players to start. I'm going to keep the replacements as replacements because I'm about 99% sure I'll need them (probably more than have signed up).

Sign-ups are slow, people will forget a game is running or just won't care, and the game will fall to apathy.

Let's give everyone some time to chill and feel like playing again before we start.

[MichiganHero]

Argh. I want to see mafia played but at the same time I'm having a hard time focusing on mafia.

I'll play, but don't expect me to constantly check up on this. Some nights I have masses of homework, others I have none. So don't expect me to be 100% focused. It will be more like 55%/45% to be honest.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Argh. I want to see mafia played but at the same time I'm having a hard time focusing on mafia.

I'll play, but don't expect me to constantly check up on this. Some nights I have masses of homework, others I have none. So don't expect me to be 100% focused. It will be more like 55%/45% to be honest.

That's why I want to wait. It won't be fun for the people excited to play if 1/3+ of the game population is only going to be checking in daily or less.

11 people really caring in this game won't make up for 14 who don't.

(It's not like I'm holding anything up. We're having trouble filling a single 25 player game. I doubt another game can do any better in the time before this starts.)

[moon_lit_tears]

I would be very active...but won't be in the game. Nothing against you MJ. ;)

[mjdgoldeneye]

I would be very active...but won't be in the game. Nothing against you MJ. ;)

Should I remove you from the replacements then? If you're not willing to play, I'd rather not mislead myself on the number of available replacements.

[Destiny]

I suppose we'll have to wait a while until everybody is willing to play again then. Unfortunate for me, personally, as I'm up for it.

[Imarevenant]

It's not like I'm holding anything up. We're having trouble filling a single 25 player game. I doubt another game can do any better in the time before this starts.

I think it's time to start the game. We're approaching the **** or get off the pot threshold here.

It's been 3 weeks now that sign ups have been up for this so, everyone whose interested is likely signed up already. And while you doubt another game could have more successful sign-ups it's still unfair to have those on the list wait any longer to try.

[Destiny]

I agree. I'm sure that the game can be run with twenty-three participants, and want to play mafia.

[Comradebot]

I'd like to submit my application for residence in Freegreen Heights ... and hope my Charlie Sheen lifestyle doesn't hold me back. :p

I agree. I'm sure that the game can be run with twenty-three participants, and want to play mafia.

We have at least 24, MJD either overlooked him or has just been too lazy to update the front page.

MH's post shortly there-after was a bit dubious if he meant he was cool to be a replacement or if he meant he wanted to be bumped up to the active player list.

[Comradebot]

Actually...

Go ahead and throw me in Mj.

Argh. I want to see mafia played but at the same time I'm having a hard time focusing on mafia.

I'll play, but don't expect me to constantly check up on this. Some nights I have masses of homework, others I have none. So don't expect me to be 100% focused. It will be more like 55%/45% to be honest.

I believe Paws makes 25, before MH.

[Inadvertant]

Count me in!

[Prophet]

Just a little FYI, I won't be available for the start, if it happens before Friday night/Saturday. I'm still in, I just have to deal with real life things first.

Besides, it's only fitting I Charlie Sheen on a Friday night, no? :p

[MichiganHero]

We have at least 24, MJD either overlooked him or has just been too lazy to update the front page.

MH's post shortly there-after was a bit dubious if he meant he was cool to be a replacement or if he meant he wanted to be bumped up to the active player list.

I'll be cool as a replacement.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I think it's time to start the game. We're approaching the **** or get off the pot threshold here.

It's been 3 weeks now that sign ups have been up for this so, everyone whose interested is likely signed up already. And while you doubt another game could have more successful sign-ups it's still unfair to have those on the list wait any longer to try.

Don't you think it's already unfair that I had to cut 15 roles from the game I waited a year to run?

Also, a few of the people coming up on the list aren't even playing in my game because of what they, themselves, advertised as burnout. They'd be lying if they if were itching to run a game...

I'm not going to waste the time of others or myself by running a game that congeals by Day 3 due to inactivity. I have confidence in a lot of the players, but some I'm not sure about. Some people have seemingly signed up just as a favor, others have said they'll be busy, I think 2 have already dropped out, and my replacements have been flaky and the game hasn't even started! :p

The site is giving me a lot of 500 Internal Server Errors tonight and I need to study for a test, but I can send PM's out tomorrow night. However, I will very very likely need more replacements, so if you read this, please sign-up to be one.

[i effin rule]

Don't you think it's already unfair that I had to cut 15 roles from the game I waited a year to run?

Also, a few of the people coming up on the list aren't even playing in my game because of what they, themselves, advertised as burnout. They'd be lying if they if were itching to run a game...

I'm not going to waste the time of others or myself by running a game that congeals by Day 3 due to inactivity. I have confidence in a lot of the players, but some I'm not sure about. Some people have seemingly signed up just as a favor, others have said they'll be busy, I think 2 have already dropped out, and my replacements have been flaky and the game hasn't even started! :p

The site is giving me a lot of 500 Internal Server Errors tonight and I need to study for a test, but I can send PM's out tomorrow night. However, I will very very likely need more replacements, so if you read this, please sign-up to be one.


First. No, it isn't unfair.


Second. I've been burned out on mafia for a long time now and it doesn't impact me wanting to mod in the least. For me, at least, being burned out from playing mafia doesn't affect me modding mafia because they are completely different beasts.


You can't hold up the entire community until you get the number you want. That isn't fair to anyone. If you can't get the numbers in a reasonable amount of time then you can either step back and let someone else go or play with what you have. You're the only person to have had any kind of sign ups since the 30th of January and we still haven't had a game start.

[mjdgoldeneye]

First. No, it isn't unfair.

It's not unfair that everyone else gets to run actual big games with 35+ people and I have to scrounge for a month to get a nearly-full small game? I understand there is a meaningful explanation, but you have to understand that this is not a preferable situation to be in. The word may not be unfair seeing as some diety isn't striking me down arbitrarily, but it can be described as getting the short straw.

I have no problem with someone else holding sign-ups. Normally we have a big game and a small game going at once.

Honestly, I would rather wait and let someone go. However, I've waited so long that, at this rate, if someone else had sign-ups, they wouldn't be ready to go for at least another week (being very optimistic, probably 2 weeks for a game of 25) so everyone would have to wait even more.

No one wants to wait anymore (well, except the few people who will be busy for a few days), but no one wants to play a lethargic, useless game either. I'm trying to make things as un-sucky as possible.

It's all hypothetical anyway as we have 25 and we should start tomorrow. Now my only concern is replacements.

[moon_lit_tears]

MJ you are not the only person to go through this. Not long ago Arrows had the same problem. It happens.


I agree with either starting or letting another game go up.

[mjdgoldeneye]

MJ you are not the only person to go through this. Not long ago Arrows had the same problem. It happens.


I agree with either starting or letting another game go up.

Arrows' issue was certainly because of his theme. I know, people told him... :p

All he did was make a Jimmy Hart version of the game he was going to run to get rid of the flavor so people could join. This game doesn't have arcane flavor, it's a different thing. In his case, there were still a bunch of people around. Now, if I dropped, there would be another slowly filling void. (Unless everyone is just hiding in an attempt to not hurt my feelings, but I don't think people 'round here would have a problem saying my game is dumb. :p)

Regardless, as you often do, you make a point a few hours after it's been settled... :p I already said that someone else can run sign-ups AND that we'll start tomorrow. S'all good either way.

[moon_lit_tears]

Wow, um nice to know I often do that. Thing is, I just skimmed and just coz you add a smiley doesn't make your statements any less....rude? Like someone saying MJ you're a douch. :p


Just because the smiley is there doesn't make it any less meaningful, not that I'm calling you a douche or anything. :D

I also didn't see this earlier because I was doing stuff like updating my spreadsheet because I couldn't do it earlier.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Wow, um nice to know I always do that. Thing is, I just skimmed and just coz you add a smiley doesn't make your statements any less....rude? Like someone saying MJ you're a douch. :p


Just because the smiley is there doesn't make it any less meaningful, not that I'm calling you a douche or anything. :D

I also didn't see this earlier because I was doing stuff like updating my spreadsheet because I couldn't do it earlier.

I'm just saying that, for example, after a torrential argument that I'm having in a game (probably with prague or Glotnot) ends, several hours later after everyone leaves the thread, you pop in and say "Just stop arguing!"

You're a voice of reason, but you're always a few hours late! :D

I'm just busting. I'm sorry for being jerkish. :o

[GruntMark]

Its important that if a game doesnt fill up to a reasonable level, we skip.

I know that with starting tomorrow, thats academic now, but...

Since we cant police the list for quality, this is our only way of voting for what does and doesnt get run.

Hypothetically, if we all hated MJD or his games, itd be fair not to allow him to run them via not signing up.

http://gaming.icrontic.com/files/2010/05/Deal-with-it-Shepard.jpg

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm just saying that, for example, after a torrential argument that I'm having in a game (probably with prague or Glotnot) ends, several hours later after everyone leaves the thread, you pop in and say "Just stop arguing!"

You're a voice of reason, but you're always a few hours late! :D

I'm just busting. I'm sorry for being jerkish. :o

Umm no?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Its important that if a game doesnt fill up to a reasonable level, we skip.

I know that with starting tomorrow, thats academic now, but...

Since we cant police the list for quality, this is our only way of voting for what does and doesnt get run.

Hypothetically, if we all hated MJD or his games, itd be fair not to allow him to run them via not signing up.

http://gaming.icrontic.com/files/2010/05/Deal-with-it-Shepard.jpg

Ideally, the mature way to do it would be to say "I would advise that you do not run this game". The wrong way would be to just hide for a month or two and never say anything until I wander off.

There's no need to simulate some sort of ideal capitalist economic system when we can all speak to each other.

Umm no?

You certainly do. :p I always mention it. Someone will already have told us to stop, we'll make our peace, no one will post for, like, 4 hours, and you'll pop in. It's just an observation.

You're also always good for an "It's night phase." or two whether what we're discussing is relevant to the night or not. ;)

[GruntMark]

Ideally, the mature way to do it would be to say "I would advise that you do not run this game". The wrong way would be to just hide for a month or two and never say anything until I wander off.

There's no need to simulate some sort of ideal capitalist economic system when we can all speak to each other.



And realistically has that EVER happened?

Why should I expect it ever will happen?

No one told Ya Its Me not to run a terrible game.

[GruntMark]

Ya know, if I was just like...

"Uuuuhhhh, MJD. Yo, no offense or anything, but you are a terrible mod and shouldnt run a game. Love to your folks." Wouldnt you probably just tell me to shove it? That seems like a pretty natural reaction... :p

[mjdgoldeneye]

And realistically has that EVER happened?

Why should I expect it ever will happen?

No one told Ya Its Me not to run a terrible game.

I don't understand what you're referring to. Has what ever happened?

I just mean that it saves time and embarrassment to just say "I don't want to play this game" rather than just staying quiet and not joining.

The people running patently crappy games are also probably the sort to not catch a hint. Then it just gets awkward.

You can vote for what gets played by... voting for what gets played... :p

When sign-ups open, say you'll sign up or, if you won't, say why. Just be transparent. Send a message by sending a message. I consider it courtesy.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Ya know, if I was just like...

"Uuuuhhhh, MJD. Yo, no offense or anything, but you are a terrible mod and shouldnt run a game. Love to your folks." Wouldnt you probably just tell me to shove it? That seems like a pretty natural reaction... :p

No, not really. People need to know. I have asked several times if it was me or what. I don't want to keep making games if no one wants to play. I especially don't want to hold onto Mass Effect if another mod can get more sign-ups.

It's much more of a disservice to let a person hang around the boards, keep signing up for modding, keep spending hours designing games, and then keep questioning why said games flounder.

The problem is that you'll never get dead air. I'll sign up for pretty much anything. You'll always end up with something borderline and then you'll have people thinking it might be inactive or perhaps the theme and they'll never know for sure that it's them.

[GruntMark]

I don't understand what you're referring to. Has what ever happened?


Ideally, the mature way to do it would be to say "I would advise that you do not run this game".

Has that ever happened? Thought that was a pretty clear line of thought.

No one probably wants to be that guy. Though maybe someone should be.

And if we all say "You know what, no. We arent running your game" then we give ammo to the higher ups who already think we are a clique.

[GruntMark]

No, not really. People need to know. I have asked several times if it was me or what. I don't want to keep making games if no one wants to play. I especially don't want to hold onto Mass Effect if another mod can get more sign-ups.

It's much more of a disservice to let a person hang around the boards, keep signing up for modding, keep spending hours designing games, and then keep questioning why said games flounder.

The problem is that you'll never get dead air. I'll sign up for pretty much anything. You'll always end up with something borderline and then you'll have people thinking it might be inactive or perhaps the theme and they'll never know for sure that it's them.

My gut says ME was the theme.

I love ME. You love ME. It may be the only thing we've ever really agreed on. :p

But...video games are kinda a niche when taken individually.

[BHK1978]

http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/data/500/rodney_king.jpg:D

[Comradebot]

No, not really. People need to know. I have asked several times if it was me or what. I don't want to keep making games if no one wants to play. I especially don't want to hold onto Mass Effect if another mod can get more sign-ups.

It's much more of a disservice to let a person hang around the boards, keep signing up for modding, keep spending hours designing games, and then keep questioning why said games flounder.

The problem is that you'll never get dead air. I'll sign up for pretty much anything. You'll always end up with something borderline and then you'll have people thinking it might be inactive or perhaps the theme and they'll never know for sure that it's them.

Please, how many people would just be cool with being told "Sorry, but we don't like you and you suck too much" as the reason why they need to go ahead and let their game be skipped? It would most certainly cause resentment. Heck, it'd promote and legitimalize some of the douchebaggery and backroom talkings that can happen down here. We'd be nothing but a an elitist douche clique if we start doing anything that actively says "you're not cool enough, sorry" as a means to run things down here.

It would be a terrible, terrible, terrible idea.

The REAL problem is cause of the OTHER terrible, terrible, terrible idea that went through here: trying to up the pace of running games. Nearly everyone I've talked to has cited burnout as a reason for taking some time off as of recently, myself included. Folks argued that "well, you don't HAVE to play in all these games if you don't want!" But that's the problem: folks will take games off, cause they're already playing as much mafia as they likely want, and anymore is too much to handle. Leads to games, like this one, struggling to fill up cause of mafia overload. If you want to play extra mafia games, then there's PLENTY of other sites to do it. But running more games here doesn't bring with it the extra population to field those games.

It was a bad idea then, and it still is now. Let us put an end to this failed experiment and run games the way we used to, cause at least that wasn't threatening to put GDS mafia on life support. Yeah, you might have to wait a while longer to host your game. But, as the old cliche' goes, "better late than never".

[GruntMark]

http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/data/500/rodney_king.jpg:D

Its just a discussion. At least it is to me. I dont have any problem with MJD as a mod. I wouldnt have signed up if I did.

I just see this beng relavent in the future...

[BHK1978]

Its just a discussion. At least it is to me. I dont have any problem with MJD as a mod. I wouldnt have signed up if I did.

I just see this beng relavent in the future...

Was meant as a joke, I was just dying to use the Rodney King graphic...

[Tha Black Phenom]

The REAL problem is cause of the OTHER terrible, terrible, terrible idea that went through here: trying to up the pace of running games. Nearly everyone I've talked to has cited burnout as a reason for taking some time off as of recently, myself included. Folks argued that "well, you don't HAVE to play in all these games if you don't want!" But that's the problem: folks will take games off, cause they're already playing as much mafia as they likely want, and anymore is too much to handle. Leads to games, like this one, struggling to fill up cause of mafia overload. If you want to play extra mafia games, then there's PLENTY of other sites to do it. But running more games here doesn't bring with it the extra population to field those games.

It was a bad idea then, and it still is now. Let us put an end to this failed experiment and run games the way we used to, cause at least that wasn't threatening to put GDS mafia on life support. Yeah, you might have to wait a while longer to host your game. But, as the old cliche' goes, "better late than never".

Aye, though honestly this was sort of an idea that had to go through for us to realize how it would backfire. I sort of suspected this would happen, but it really had to be something the community would have to see with their own eyes.

Now that it's happened, we can run games the way we used to, though.. maybe some moments of the year could be treated on a case-per-case basis. Say if a game is going through and half the populace is killed but a lot of people are still running around a tad restless, wouldn't be bad to open up another game on the fly, y'know? Way I see it, most people who voted 'yes' back then were active and eager to play and it may had to do with the holidays, as opposed to this.. cold slump now. But yeah, a consistent surge in hosted games doesn't turn out for the better.

[SGRaaize]

I think this forum is way too small for a reservation list.
Can't we do it like we do it in every other small forum, the Host from the last game is asked by another person "Hey, can I do this next setup" and the Host says "sure", and the next person just makes another signup thread?
Of course, if the Host always gave it to the same person, or if the people were constantly interchanging between themselves, then someone could come in and say "Screw your ****" and make a Signup thread, but we are all buddies, amirite?

[Tha Black Phenom]

The forum isn't that small. We occasionally have as big as 40-man games going through, and bet your life at least 36 of those people would like running a game or two about a subject of their liking. List is inevitable.

[Comradebot]

I think this forum is way too small for a reservation list.
Can't we do it like we do it in every other small forum, the Host from the last game is asked by another person "Hey, can I do this next setup" and the Host says "sure", and the next person just makes another signup thread?
Of course, if the Host always gave it to the same person, or if the people were constantly interchanging between themselves, then someone could come in and say "Screw your ****" and make a Signup thread, but we are all buddies, amirite?

Nope, the reservation list is a neccessity the way I see it. It's the absolute fairest way we've come up with so far to get games run. Last thing you want is to be tweaking a game and constantly get you spot "ninjaed" by someone else right before you can post sign-ups.

[Destiny]

I agree that the list is the best way to do things. Looking forward to receiving my role PM soon.

[djthefunkchris]

I'm not burned out, but I'm not really high on MJD's modding. I will say that I think his idea's about games are great though, and love to see them play through and see what happens. He's been the first to try different things, and I think he deserves more credit for that then he gets.

The modding can really slow down a game though, and that's how I feel everytime I play an MJD game. So I decided to sit this one out. Nothing against MJD though, as I said there are alot more good things about MJD and Mafia that I like then the one less desired (by me) which is the modding itself. Love what he puts together, love the idea's in his head, etc. I would have never posted this if it weren't for MJD himself asking for clarification, as I feel this post is in bad taste, and I really don't want to get into any specifics at all. I definately don't want to hurt anyone's feelings (Especially MJD's).

As for the "Idea" that got passed a good while ago, it has sped up the lists quite a bit. I personally do believe that people can get burned out on Mafia and decide to be more picky (everyone does at some point) in which games they play, but over half the people playing here play on other sights (or did) as well, so it's something that just happens no matter what.... I haven't seen any increase in burnout since we started this, that doesn't happen naturally without it. To all the sudden claim "Oh my god, people are getting burned out, it's all because of that idea!" isn't really fair, when you know this happens at least four times a year or more... At the end of the year, and you notice burnout's were way up, then yeah... I could agree with you. But to just say "Look, it's failing" when you see the first signs of burnout in a signup thread, is simply unfair. IF it never happened in the past, sure. But this has been a long time problem since we started.

[Destiny]

I'm optimistic about this game, especially is mjdgoldeneye has tried some of these new ideas. Are we still receiving our role PMs today?

[eayragt]

Hasn't the only real affect of starting games quicker been that VG2 started 2 weeks early?

I hardly think that alone has caused massed burnout. We go through phases of struggling to fill games, whether it's due to people taking breaks at the same time, being buys in real life, or not liking the look of certain games (especially themes or types of games). The early start to VG2 may have made 2 or 3 people take an ealry break, but surely that's about it? We've just reached a natural impasse. For me first it was the theme (never played Mass Effect, might sometime, so didn't want to play), now it's the case of it's the end of the Financial Year and I'm just busy.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I'm not burned out, but I'm not really high on MJD's modding. I will say that I think his idea's about games are great though, and love to see them play through and see what happens. He's been the first to try different things, and I think he deserves more credit for that then he gets.

The modding can really slow down a game though, and that's how I feel everytime I play an MJD game. So I decided to sit this one out. Nothing against MJD though, as I said there are alot more good things about MJD and Mafia that I like then the one less desired (by me) which is the modding itself. Love what he puts together, love the idea's in his head, etc. I would have never posted this if it weren't for MJD himself asking for clarification, as I feel this post is in bad taste, and I really don't want to get into any specifics at all. I definately don't want to hurt anyone's feelings (Especially MJD's).

I'm not offended, I know what you mean.

The last few games I've run on here, I'd been late with write-ups and as the games went on, the writing would get lazier and lazier.

I will say that I am aware of those issues and will make a concerted effort to avoid them in this game. (It's not hard to avoid...)

Try reading along for a bit. You might not be playing in this one, but I want to prove I can be prompt and exciting. :D

(never played Mass Effect, might sometime, so didn't want to play)

As I said, it was my re-imagining and random tweaking of the theme. There wouldn't be spoilers because who would know if major plot points ever even happened in my universe?

I tried to make it so it was still Mass Effect, but those experienced with the games can't look at the write-up and go "Oh, that's x".

[mjdgoldeneye]

I've got some house-keeping stuff to handle, but I can start sending out PM's in a bit.

[mjdgoldeneye]

The modding can really slow down a game though, and that's how I feel everytime I play an MJD game.

Oh, I just looked. "Everytime" = Cartoon Chaos. :p That's the only game of mine you've ever played in (unless you've played on my site/Astil's site/NLW).

That game was an admitted... debacle... and you had what I would call a crappy role in hindsight. CC is my old shame.

I just figured I'd let you know you've got tendency heuristic in your head based on one event. :p It doesn't change anything, but I too thought you had played several of my games.

[djthefunkchris]

I'm not offended, I know what you mean.

The last few games I've run on here, I'd been late with write-ups and as the games went on, the writing would get lazier and lazier.

I will say that I am aware of those issues and will make a concerted effort to avoid them in this game. (It's not hard to avoid...)

Try reading along for a bit. You might not be playing in this one, but I want to prove I can be prompt and exciting. :D
Will do.
Oh, I just looked. "Everytime" = Cartoon Chaos. :p That's the only game of mine you've ever played in (unless you've played on my site/Astil's site/NLW).

That game was an admitted... debacle... and you had what I would call a crappy role in hindsight. CC is my old shame.

I just figured I'd let you know you've got tendency heuristic in your head based on one event. :p It doesn't change anything, but I too thought you had played several of my games.
Although that's true, it doesn't mean I haven't read along on other games. Fact is, even in my absence from Mafia I have read along one's I felt tried new things, and your one of those people that aren't afraid to try things.

Also, I don't want you to downplay how I feel about all that.... meaning your idea's. I really do think we need someone like you around that isn't afraid to try completely different concepts in the mafia games. In fact, I was thinking of personally getting some input from you on a thought I had for a future game... one I haven't even dared put together yet, but I'm in no way afraid to share the idea. I've debated on trying a "Fantasy" type game, with Elves and Dwarves, etc... as if it were an MMO (Meaning, a way to give it a complete MMO type feel to it). Have a few idea's of how to work it, but haven't worked up enough confidence to feel like going any further with the idea. Think AD&D with a mafia twist.

Anyways, again... Your right, I've only played one game. However I've seen other games played out, so I'm not going by just the one. I will be following your game as you requested, and if you need a replacement go ahead and throw me in if you end up needing me.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Will do.

Although that's true, it doesn't mean I haven't read along on other games. Fact is, even in my absence from Mafia I have read along one's I felt tried new things, and your one of those people that aren't afraid to try things.

Also, I don't want you to downplay how I feel about all that.... meaning your idea's. I really do think we need someone like you around that isn't afraid to try completely different concepts in the mafia games. In fact, I was thinking of personally getting some input from you on a thought I had for a future game... one I haven't even dared put together yet, but I'm in no way afraid to share the idea. I've debated on trying a "Fantasy" type game, with Elves and Dwarves, etc... as if it were an MMO (Meaning, a way to give it a complete MMO type feel to it). Have a few idea's of how to work it, but haven't worked up enough confidence to feel like going any further with the idea. Think AD&D with a mafia twist.

Anyways, again... Your right, I've only played one game. However I've seen other games played out, so I'm not going by just the one. I will be following your game as you requested, and if you need a replacement go ahead and throw me in if you end up needing me.

For the record, this game isn't aiming to be especially innovative. It's what I guess I'd call "mostly barebones".

[mjdgoldeneye]

Also, I've been spending forever sending out roles. I should be done shortly.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Ok, after sending PM's since, I believe, last April, I'm finally done.

Game thread in a minute.

[cappyboy]

You know what? Throw me on the backup list. I've been reading along and I can keep it up in the event I'm needed. This should be a better scene for me than EOTN was. Lord knows Day 1 is making a lot more sense in your game than the last one. :)

[mjdgoldeneye]

Replacements needed! If you're interested in being a replacement, let me know.

[mjdgoldeneye]

You know what? Throw me on the backup list. I've been reading along and I can keep it up in the event I'm needed. This should be a better scene for me than EOTN was. Lord knows Day 1 is making a lot more sense in your game than the last one. :)

Oh, totally forgot about this. I am dumb.

I'm sending you a role now.

(I am distracted today due to horrible horrible network security tedium. My apologies.)

[mjdgoldeneye]

I posted the last replacements request before I remembered cappy, but now I actually need 1 (one) replacement if anyone is interested!