The Gotham City Mafia Game Thread

[i effin rule]

I don't think Mr. T can be the Joker.

Beat me to it.

[Comradebot]

BUT, if Anti is aligned with Joker...then it probably isn't Shape.

I'm still confused. Was Anti targeting Joker last night?

TBP is a watcher... maybe he caught something good last night.

Which leads me to believe, seeing as how his alignment is all special, that GruntMark was probably TBP's phantom partner.

Which would mean we can trust TBP, as only one person seems to have a close relationship with Spoiler, and he's a very good guy.

All in all, we caught a frozen Anti-thesis in a massive lie. He's a surefire lynch should we need it, but I'm confident Mr. T could be a bigger haul.

[Lostrelms]

i woud really like some info from Mr T....

[djthefunkchris]

IT is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch.

Mr T Jobs To Me (2) > Lostrelms, Comradebot

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Lostrelms]

IT is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch.

Mr T Jobs To Me (2) > Lostrelms, Comradebot

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

Change Vote: No Vote

for the moment.

[Comradebot]

I don't think Mr. T can be the Joker.

Good catch....

1. Wallbanger
13. Astil/The Shape2.0
24. sprinklefurball

In here lies The Clown Prince of Crime, I do believe.

[Comradebot]

Change Vote: No Vote

Joker is more important than whoever Mr. T is.

[i effin rule]

TBP is a watcher... maybe he caught something good last night.

Which leads me to believe, seeing as how his alignment is all special, that GruntMark was probably TBP's phantom partner.

Which would mean we can trust TBP, as only one person seems to have a close relationship with Spoiler, and he's a very good guy.

All in all, we caught a frozen Anti-thesis in a massive lie. He's a surefire lynch should we need it, but I'm confident Mr. T could be a bigger haul.

d_w_w was originally Bludhaven aligned until he joined the Bat-crew. He never mentioned anyone else though, or we would have went after them.

[Lostrelms]

Good catch....

1. Wallbanger
13. Astil/The Shape2.0
24. sprinklefurball

In here lies The Clown Prince of Crime, I do believe.

I'm content with 'Bangers claim...

[djthefunkchris]

IT is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch.

[i effin rule]

Good catch....

1. Wallbanger
13. Astil/The Shape2.0
24. sprinklefurball

In here lies The Clown Prince of Crime, I do believe.

I don't think sprinkle is Joker, he targeted BIGJOSH night 3.

[masterded]

Good catch....

1. Wallbanger
13. Astil/The Shape2.0
24. sprinklefurball

In here lies The Clown Prince of Crime, I do believe.


Wall made a Claim no one has countered and no one who dead fits (also doesn't fit the Joker).
No one can target the Shape (Joker was in hiding until now)
Sprinkle comes up bad.

I am really leaning towards Shape. Though to make sure Com are you 100% sure it can't be ford?

[Lostrelms]

Wall made a Claim no one has countered and no one who dead fits (also doesn't fit the Joker).
No one can target the Shape (Joker was in hiding until now)
Sprinkle comes up bad.

I am really leaning towards Shape. Though to make sure Com are you 100% sure it can't be ford?

I'm still waiting on proof on ford.

[masterded]

d_w_w was originally Bludhaven aligned until he joined the Bat-crew. He never mentioned anyone else though, or we would have went after them.

TBP was Frozen with like three others he isn’t The Joker.

[masterded]

I'm still waiting on proof on ford.

As you can tell so am I. He does come up town but a don comming up town is nothing new.

[Comradebot]

I don't think sprinkle is Joker, he targeted BIGJOSH night 3.

You're completely right.

So Wallbanger, or The Shape.

[Lostrelms]

As you can tell so am I. He does come up town but a don comming up town is nothing new.

Yep. Sprinkle isnt Joker, 'Bangers claim fits. Only leaves a select few... including ford.

[i effin rule]

TBP was Frozen with like three others he isn’t The Joker.

I was just saying that they may not have known of each other.

[masterded]

NIGHT PHASE 6

GOTHAM CITY MAFIA

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/djthefunkychris/GothamCity-1.jpg


________________________________________

This was a strange one... Something about him, the way he looked, the way he moved, it seemed a bit odd.

"Excuse me, sir?"

The strange man turned around, saw the badge, and nodded.

_________________________________________

He returned from a night of unsuccessful searching for his target already in a sour mood.

"Why the long face?!"

"I couldn't find them! I looked everywhere!"

The man smiled. "Oh... Don't worry, that's only strike one for you!"

"What?!"

"Don't worry, you stop failing, you'll never have to find out! Let's not worry about that now, let's do something about that frown!" he laughed maniacally, and opened a bottle of champagne, handing the first glass to his shaken ally.
_________________________________________

Blode is dead, he was Silver St. Cloud, Gotham Aligned Wealthy Socialite
Midnightnick is dead, he was Ebeneezer Darrk AKA Doctor Dark, League Of Assassins Aligned Doctor
mjdgoldeneye is dead, he was Joe Potato, GCPD Aligned Cop

Undertaker666 has been frozen!
Tha Black Phenom has been frozen!
lprock has been imprisoned!

Though being strange fits with teh Joker. It seems he (The Joker) was the one sending out the hit. That should have been blocked if he was placed in jail. (Though still could be bad and I am not saying he for sure can't be the Joker)

[Comradebot]

I'm still waiting on proof on ford.

If you want proof on ford, than proof you shall have....


Why? Because I know, for a fact that ford is....


*drumroll*


Kirk Langstrom AKA Man-Bat, Gotham Aligned Biologist And Zoologist!!!!!!!!!



How do I know this?

Because I'm actually.......




*second drumroll!*


Francine Langstrom AKA She-Bat, Gotham Aligned Scientist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






I fooled you, I fooled you, I got pig iron, I got pig iron, I got all pig iron!!!!


I figured keeping the fact that there are two bat people flying around Gotham a secret for as long as I could was the right route. Unfortunately, I could care less about lprock/ford at this point, as I don't see the sense in protecting either one anymore. I really hope ford decides to be a little more active, as at this point we need both Bats to try and root out all the scum we can.

[Lostrelms]

If you want proof on ford, than proof you shall have....


Why? Because I know, for a fact that ford is....


*drumroll*


Kirk Langstrom AKA Man-Bat, Gotham Aligned Biologist And Zoologist!!!!!!!!!



How do I know this?

Because I'm actually.......




*second drumroll!*


Francine Langstrom AKA She-Bat, Gotham Aligned Scientist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






I fooled you, I fooled you, I got pig iron, I got pig iron, I got all pig iron!!!!


I figured keeping the fact that there are two bat people flying around Gotham a secret for as long as I could was the right route. Unfortunately, I could care less about lprock/ford at this point, as I don't see the sense in protecting either one anymore. I really hope ford decides to be a little more active, as at this point we need both Bats to try and root out all the scum we can.

There is an old saying...

LAL.

Fortunatly for you, its late in the game, and we need all the help we can get.

[masterded]

So I think we are thinking The Shape then?

[Lostrelms]

Failing that, Vote: The Shape.

Lets make this quick and easy.

[Comradebot]

There is an old saying...

LAL.

Fortunatly for you, its late in the game, and we need all the help we can get.

What do you mean, fortunately for me?

I say its fortunate for you that the Langstroms are here to try and bail Gotham out of this mess!

BAT POWER, ACTIVATE!

FORM OF, AWESOME!

[masterded]

The Shape

[Arrows]

There is an old saying...

LAL.

Fortunatly for you, its late in the game, and we need all the help we can get.

The weird thing is...I can't help but wonder if he's even telling the truth here. Something doesn't sit right with me. Gonna think about it. I'll post when I've got my head straight on it.

[Lostrelms]

The Shape

lols...

[i effin rule]

I think this was cappy.

She watched him intently, making sure she would know if any harm were to come his way. As he made his way, she followed best she could. She found her perch in the shadows among the tree's and had a great view... as if it was there just for that. She saw the figure down below, and seen them all come at it at once. She was about to yell, as she could tell from here that it was not....she turned to see him face to face...

"JOKER!".

"Ever dance with the devil by the pale moonlight?" he asked, shoving a gun in her face.

"BANG!" The gun went off, although only a sign that read "BANG!" come out, it was enough to startle her, as she fell to the ground on top of what was....

[Comradebot]

vote: The Shape

Not being targetted at night sounds alot more like The Joker than "I healed!" to me.

The Joker is a sneaky one, is he not?

[masterded]

The Shape

Vote: The Shape

[Tha Black Phenom]

Bloody hell...

Well, ford didn't target anybody, btw.

Vote: The Shape

Okay. We can't 'find' you apparently, then there's the whole "The Creeper" or "Creeper" matter, then there's how.. your name looks the most likely right now to be the villainous one.

[Lostrelms]

I think this was cappy.

Fits.

So maybe Anti wasnt lying, and targeted someone he knew wasnt Joker, and got frozen for it..

[i effin rule]

Bloody hell...

Well, ford didn't target anybody, btw.

Vote: The Shape

Okay. We can't 'find' you apparently, then there's the whole "The Creeper" or "Creeper" matter, then there's how.. your name looks the most likely right now to be the villainous one.

I guess that gives us what we need.

Vote: The Shape

[Comradebot]

The weird thing is...I can't help but wonder if he's even telling the truth here. Something doesn't sit right with me. Gonna think about it. I'll post when I've got my head straight on it.

How would I be lying? Are lprock/ford and I some sorta of double don duo of doom?


No, we're not. I believe you'll realize this once you put your head on straight. HOPEFULLY ford will show up atleast to vote for the lynch... we need all the able bodied voters we can get at this point.

[Lostrelms]

Creeper is such a convenient claim when...

After this, DC kept the character active with sporadic solo runs and guest shots over the next few years. He turned up almost immediately in the Joker's short-lived self-titled series (#3, September-October 1975, written by O'Neil)), where the similarity in green hair and maniacal laugh caused confusion. - Wiki

[i effin rule]

The only thing that confuses me is that Aussie said he targeted ford.

[Comradebot]

The only thing that confuses me is that Aussie said he targeted ford.

Bus driver sorta thing, maybe?

[i effin rule]

Bus driver sorta thing, maybe?

If there was a bus driver and he were town, I would hope that they would have made themselves known by now. I don't think there is a bus driver though.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Well if there is a bus driver, he should've ****ing claimed by now -slams fist onto table- :mad:

[Tha Black Phenom]

Beaten. Badly.

[Lostrelms]

So... Comm.... which one of you is the killer/protector? and whats the other one do?

[djthefunkchris]

IT is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (5) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Comradebot]

So... Comm.... which one of you is the killer/protector? and whats the other one do?

Actually, we basically do the same thing... just I have a greater chance of killing someone instead of protecting them than he does. Not that his protection ability is phenomenal either.

[Wallbanger]

Given the short list and discussion in the past couple of hours...

VOTE: The Shape

[Arrows]

So... Comm.... which one of you is the killer/protector? and whats the other one do?

See, THIS is why I questioned it still being a lie.

Comm said he was gonna kill Gonvick, and I'm willing to bet I got sent to Comm to prevent it. I'd be more apt to think Ford would be the killer of the two role wise, which just...wouldn't make sense.

[i effin rule]

Actually, we basically do the same thing... just I have a greater chance of killing someone instead of protecting them than he does. Not that his protection ability is phenomenal either.

Only one of you goes out each night?

Hopefully more people will get on and vote.

[Arrows]

Vote: The Shape

Looks like it's coming close to time to wrap this thing up.

[cappyboy]

Grat. I finally figure out how to make this place my homepage and I get wasted in the night phase. Without even thinking to say who my watch was on.

::shakes head::

Oh well, Town. Bring it on home for me and my sister in feathers. Maybe I catch up with her after orientation is over.

[Wallbanger]

Need two more, barring shenanigans...

[i effin rule]

See, THIS is why I questioned it still being a lie.

Comm said he was gonna kill Gonvick, and I'm willing to bet I got sent to Comm to prevent it. I'd be more apt to think Ford would be the killer of the two role wise, which just...wouldn't make sense.

Com targeted gonvick last night, ford didn't target anyone.

[Lostrelms]

http://www.comicvine.com/dr-francine-langstrom/29-22129/
Dr. Francine Langstrom is the wife of Dr. Kirk Langstrom aka The Man-Bat and was the She-Bat. Edit


Francine Lee was the girlfriend of Dr. Kirk Langstrom, the scientist who invented the bat-gland serum and involuntarily transformed into the Man-Bat refusing to give up her love to Kirk, Francine took the serum herself and was transformed into a female Man-Bat, which affected her mind. The Batman gave them both an antidote, and the happy couple was married. Some time later, an atomic blast reactivated the bat-gland chemicals in her blood, after which she was repeatedly transformed into a vampire bat, controlled by the evil Baron Tyme. Still later, Francine adopted the heroic identity of She-Bat while fighting the villainous Snafu. These days, Francine is cured, and dedicates her life to bring up her children, Aaron and Rebecca. She is currently working with Batman and his team of Outsiders as their lead scientist.

[Comradebot]

Com targeted gonvick last night, ford didn't target anyone.

Precisely, thank you IER. You're quite the gentleman.

[djthefunkchris]

IT is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (7) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule, Wallbanger, Arrows

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Arrows]

Com targeted gonvick last night, ford didn't target anyone.

Given the fact that Ford=Man Bat(Hyphen, no space, however the hell it is), I'd just assumed it more likely HE would be the one killing. Seemed kinda..odd..to be the other way around. Knowing both do it doesn't seem right either. Two killer/protector masons? Didn't we already have ENOUGH masons in this game without killer/protector masons too?

[i effin rule]

Given the fact that Ford=Man Bat(Hyphen, no space, however the hell it is), I'd just assumed it more likely HE would be the one killing. Seemed kinda..odd..to be the other way around. Knowing both do it doesn't seem right either. Two killer/protector masons? Didn't we already have ENOUGH masons in this game without killer/protector masons too?

We've had a crap ton of watchers and/or trackers in mason groups too though.

[Arrows]

We've had a crap ton of watchers and/or trackers in mason groups too though.

That's exactly my point. MORE? Protectors/Killers at that?

[Comradebot]

Given the fact that Ford=Man Bat(Hyphen, no space, however the hell it is), I'd just assumed it more likely HE would be the one killing. Seemed kinda..odd..to be the other way around. Knowing both do it doesn't seem right either. Two killer/protector masons? Didn't we already have ENOUGH masons in this game without killer/protector masons too?

You have to look into our powers technically work. Everytime I send in a target, I'm actually sending in a target to try and protect. Only thing is, I'm suppossed to have about a 60%-70% (never got the actualy numbers from DJ, but I do know its a greater chance than Man-Bat has at backfiring, which is 50%) chance to lose control of the bat and kill whoever it is I targetted. I believe the reasoning is in the fact that Kirk has more experience than Francince in controlling his urge to slaughter things as a bat monster.

And, seriously, just look at what I've done. If you think I'm scum still, then you need to check your head out. I've fought HARD for two lynches on a member of the Gotham Mafia and Secret Society, killed a member of the LoA, and last night tried to kill someone who was in all likelihood a member of the Secret Society.

If I'm scum, I'm doing a pretty bad job at keeping members of my team alive. Good thing I'm on the side of good and such.

[i effin rule]

That's exactly my point. MORE? Protectors/Killers at that?

Are (or were) there any other protector/killer masons?

[Arrows]

Are (or were) there any other protector/killer masons?

No, but think about it what all there has been. On top of the Bat 3 + 1, there was the GCP, the BoP, Now these two, and I'm fairly certain I'm missing a few more little 2 man groups somewhere.

[Lostrelms]

No, but think about it what all there has been. On top of the Bat 3 + 1, there was the GCP, the BoP, Now these two, and I'm fairly certain I'm missing a few more little 2 man groups somewhere.

There was a comment in one of the write ups that specifically mentioned that there seemed to be alot of small mason-ish groups... wish i could remember where it was...


Either way, im off to bed.

[Comradebot]

No, but think about it what all there has been. On top of the Bat 3 + 1, there was the GCP, the BoP, Now these two, and I'm fairly certain I'm missing a few more little 2 man groups somewhere.

Seriously Arrows?

You're doubting ford and I are masons because of the abundance of masons in this game?

Seriously?

In a game with more masons than you can shake a stick at, ford and I would be "too many"?

Seriously?

Seriously, I thought you were smarter than that.

[i effin rule]

No, but think about it what all there has been. On top of the Bat 3 + 1, there was the GCP, the BoP, Now these two, and I'm fairly certain I'm missing a few more little 2 man groups somewhere.

Because of all of that it wouldn't surprise me. I have no reason no to trust him right now.

[Arrows]

Seriously Arrows?

You're doubting ford and I are masons because of the abundance of masons in this game?

Seriously?

In a game with more masons than you can shake a stick at, ford and I would be "too many"?

Seriously?

Seriously, I thought you were smarter than that.

Because of all of that it wouldn't surprise me. I have no reason no to trust him right now.

I'm not saying he's lynch worthy or anything..but seriously?

Holy ****.

Am I the ONLY GOOD GUY NOT ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE?

[masterded]

I'm not saying he's lynch worthy or anything..but seriously?

Holy ****.

Am I the ONLY GOOD GUY NOT ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE?

I can only talk to myself now :p

and sometime I talk back :D

[Comradebot]

I'm not saying he's lynch worthy or anything..but seriously?

Holy ****.

Am I the ONLY GOOD GUY NOT ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE?

Would you be friends with the short, fat, waddling guy who has a fetish for birds?

[Wallbanger]

Holy ****.

Am I the ONLY GOOD GUY NOT ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE?

Actually, no, you aren't the only good guy not able to talk to someone.

[GruntMark]

I'm not saying he's lynch worthy or anything..but seriously?

Holy ****.

Am I the ONLY GOOD GUY NOT ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE?


ROFL

[Wallbanger]

Geez, don't answer him all at once now. :p

[djthefunkchris]

IT is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (7) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule, Wallbanger, Arrows

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Arrows]

Would you be friends with the short, fat, waddling guy who has a fetish for birds?

No, but I'm normal. Look at the people in this city. Am I really THAT freaking different that I don't get any one to talk to? He couldn't even give me a Penguin to make noises back at me? Nothing?

[i effin rule]

I hope we have enough good guys capable of voting this phase.

[Comradebot]

I hope we have enough good guys capable of voting this phase.

We should... that is, of course, if my partner decides to show up. He seemed a little turned off by the fact that he hadn't kept up with the game, and missed the majority of it. If not, we very well might get screwed out of a lynch.

Which will... well... suck.

Shame about Whitey getting put on ice. :-(

[Comradebot]

Also, we can assume some of the scum might vote for him... if they're not all aligned with him, that is. Which, I don't think they are if memory serves correct by the alignment information.

[Arrows]

Fairly interested in something.

Change Vote: No Vote

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (6) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule, Wallbanger

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[The Shape]

Yeah uh...this is getting silly guys. Shoddy logic gains steam and the next thing you know I've nearly been lynched in my sleep after one of the worst nights we've had all game.

To SHape



Why would you heal from an attack if you can't be targeted for an attack to start with?

That doesn't make any sense.

I didn't say that. I said that for a good portion of the game, until I think it was bak couldn't find me, I assumed that was the key to my ability. It's no more than a sentence in the PM, but that's as much as anything else...

I think the key thing about The Shape claim, is that someone pointed out that Shape claims "The Creeper" when the character is just "Creeper".

As James Casey of all people first pointed out, haha. It's a pretty inconsequential nuance and not down to me at all. A quick wiki check and he seems to be referred to as both throughout, it's just the title is singular.

What I don't like is that the Joker has only been seen talking in one place with his people. Which if The Shape is the Joker would add up seeing as we don't know where his base is.

This is where things started getting out of hand. I've never seen and nor would I want to come across untargetable scum, because it doesn't make any sense at all, especially given how powerful his kills seem to be. And hey, it seems he's going to be out and about from now on, so if someone could agree to prove they still can't find me and that nothing at my end has changed, then that'd be great.

I know I pretty much missed the last phase, but is Shape claiming the guy who was healing himself at the end of the last night phase? Or is he claiming the same thing and just so happened to see someone doing the same?

I really doubt that was me. Like I've said, the healing **** isn't my role, it's part of what's mentioned that I THOUGHT was my role. Soon became apparent that that wasn't the case.

Well, I think Anti definitely caught him in a slip. If you are untargetable, why would you need to regenerate. Things aren't adding up.

Yet if either of you actually re-read me explaining things they would begin to...or at least, you'd garner as much/little understanding as I.

On a completely different note, the Society only have 2 members left and this hasn't been mentioned at all:

They decided to do some major Brainstorming tonight. No guests, no room for error. Just the two of them going over things, and trying to make more sense of this mess going on.

The word "guests" interests me here...why would they have any in the first place?

!!: Just realised this also means Freeze can't be a part of their group. And Rock13's alignment info means he can't be working alone...

d_w_w was originally Bludhaven aligned until he joined the Bat-crew. He never mentioned anyone else though, or we would have went after them.

A mere sidenote at this point but...any idea why? :confused:

Failing that, Vote: The Shape.

Lets make this quick and easy.

Yesterday you trusted me enough to spell it out for me, and yet now where literally nothing has changed except Joker being out killing, which means that what I've said can easily be proved or disproved during the night phase...you want to make this quick and easy? Seriously man, think for yourself...

Creeper is such a convenient claim when...

- Wiki

I...have no idea why that's relevant at all. If anything it just makes it more "convenient" to lynch me.

Fairly interested in something.

Change Vote: No Vote

You say that then leave for 5 hours. What are you interested in?

But for now, Vote: Antithesis

It's been proved that he's lying and is surely aligned with Joker, whereas I'm all alone and that can be proved as such during the night. It's a no brainer, honestly.

[The Shape]

Another note; as far as I'm aware the only person whose word with have that arrows isn't the joker is...antithesis.

As for the Aussie/ford stuff, there is one rather obvious explanation...

[The Shape]

Glot's name at the bottom of the thread just reminded me of something...

[The Shape]

The word "guests" interests me here...why would they have any in the first place?

Oh, and if I'm still alive at ~4:00 PM EST when I get home, I might share a special something with you that you might want to know. Yes. You might think that's a bluff, but it's not. I don't do bluffs....these kinds of bluffs, anyway.

No. But there's some very interesting information concerning my "team". And yeah, I don't plan on outing anyone. But still. I have suspciions. 'Cause I'm a paranoid bugger. It would help just about everybody if I'm right. Or hurt, depending on what happens. If I'm wrong though. Well, nothing would really happen. I think. No way of knowing, really. Still. Maybe, maybe. Could it really hurt you guys to wait a few hours anyway?

Hmm...

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (6) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule, Wallbanger

Antithesis (1) > The Shape


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Actarus]

Cancel the questioning of Mr. T regarding possession. I have just been notified that unless I get a PM specifically stating so, I CAN indeed take possession of someone.

So I guess it simply isn't mentioned in the write-up (or if it is, I'm dumber than a brick because I can't see how it could be in, even hinted at). This also means this line of questioning was inappropriate for Mr. Casey, so I owe him another apology (blast it! :p)

Shape, overall I'm going to let someone else verbally spar with you. However, I'd like to point out that I fail to see shoddy logic at work here based on all the information we currently have. All we know about you is you've character-claimed, and you seemingly cannot be targeted at night. The bulletproof thing YOU mentioned doesn't add up to your targeting phenomena, and unless you can / will provide a better explanation for this, you have to realize you're one of the more suspicious people remaining in this game (the others being, in no particular order, gonvick, sprinkle, Mr. T., Anti, and 'Banger)

For the record, based purely on hunches and speculation on my part, I'm not convinced you're the Joker. However, I'm not convinced you're Gotham-aligned either.

So, two questions:

1.) Can you explain why you cannot be targeted? (please no snide comments).

2.) Can you provide a specific example in the night write-ups where you appear. We've had ten night phases; surely you're in one of them by now.

I look forward not only to your answers, but HOW you answer these questions.

[James Casey]

:D

That was fun. Running around Gotham, being scum...

Well played to all of you who've survived thus far, especially Actarus. I might have made it a lot further without you nailing me down.

Of course, I was loving the way in which you all doubted everything I said - despite almost all of it being true. Some of you are just too suspicious - or not suspicious enough, given you got a crook and lost out on... Well, I certainly wasn't the Joker ;)

Great game, dj and Crychon, and I'll definitely be back.

Anyone got a Lazarus Pit handy? I think I can make a late run on the presidneital elections... :p

[The Shape]

Cancel the questioning of Mr. T regarding possession. I have just been notified that unless I get a PM specifically stating so, I CAN indeed take possession of someone.

So I guess it simply isn't mentioned in the write-up (or if it is, I'm dumber than a brick because I can't see how it could be in, even hinted at). This also means this line of questioning was inappropriate for Mr. Casey, so I owe him another apology (blast it! :p)

Shape, overall I'm going to let someone else verbally spar with you. However, I'd like to point out that I fail to see shoddy logic at work here based on all the information we currently have. All we know about you is you've character-claimed, and you seemingly cannot be targeted at night. The bulletproof thing YOU mentioned doesn't add up to your targeting phenomena, and unless you can / will provide a better explanation for this, you have to realize you're one of the more suspicious people remaining in this game (the others being, in no particular order, gonvick, sprinkle, Mr. T., Anti, and 'Banger)

For the record, based purely on hunches and speculation on my part, I'm not convinced you're the Joker. However, I'm not convinced you're Gotham-aligned either.

So, two questions:

1.) Can you explain why you cannot be targeted? (please no snide comments).

2.) Can you provide a specific example in the night write-ups where you appear. We've had ten night phases; surely you're in one of them by now.

I look forward not only to your answers, but HOW you answer these questions.

Responding won't take long (basically I'll try to elaborate on no-no) but I have lectures now. I will be back in 4 or 5 hours depending on what goes on afterwards.

In the mean time I'd love some thoughts on my last few posts and the antithesis stuff. Ciao.

[James Casey]

Oh, and DJ, I'd love to know your reasoning for listing as an ex-Mayor... It made things interesting early on :p

[Lostrelms]

Responding won't take long (basically I'll try to elaborate on no-no) but I have lectures now. I will be back in 4 or 5 hours depending on what goes on afterwards.

In the mean time I'd love some thoughts on my last few posts and the antithesis stuff. Ciao.

At taht point in time yesterday, i was pretty well convinved Casey was Joker. Now, im not so sure. What we have so far says its probably you...

Its been proven before this game, that i can be wrong about who some one is (but im spot on as far as finding scum goes...)

[Actarus]

In the mean time I'd love some thoughts on my last few posts and the antithesis stuff. Ciao.

You mean this stuff:


Another note; as far as I'm aware the only person whose word with have that arrows isn't the joker is...antithesis.

As for the Aussie/ford stuff, there is one rather obvious explanation...

Regarding Arrows, his character-claim is the Penguin, and is backed up by numerous appearances in the write-ups. At this point in the game I'm confident he's not the Joker.

Aussie / ford...do you mean Comrade & ford? Ditto for them if so.


Glot's name at the bottom of the thread just reminded me of something...

Hmm...

I'm...not seeing the connection here. Glotnot's been dead for awhile, and he turned out to be Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke, the Terminator. The DC U's #1 badass mercenary. I wouldn't have put much if any stock in anything he had to say, as long as it diverted attention from him or bought him more time.

[Arrows]

I don't think sprinkle is Joker, he targeted BIGJOSH night 3.

What if he targeted BIGJOSH for a recruitment? Catwoman wasn't exactly straight and shiny and all things good. Seems like as good of a recruitment choice as any. Of course, it could've failed like every one of mine did, and thus we'd be sitting here thinking it can't be Sprinkle.

Why can't it be? Slow down the votes guys. We need to make sure we get this right.

[i effin rule]

Another note; as far as I'm aware the only person whose word with have that arrows isn't the joker is...antithesis.

As for the Aussie/ford stuff, there is one rather obvious explanation...

Arrows was followed one night and targeted Comradebot. Based on the write up, Joker did not target Comradebot.

[i effin rule]

What if he targeted BIGJOSH for a recruitment? Catwoman wasn't exactly straight and shiny and all things good. Seems like as good of a recruitment choice as any. Of course, it could've failed like every one of mine did, and thus we'd be sitting here thinking it can't be Sprinkle.

Why can't it be? Slow down the votes guys. We need to make sure we get this right.

The right up doesn't seem as such. But I suppose if that keeps him suspicious we need to add you back to the list too.

[Arrows]

The right up doesn't seem as such. But I suppose if that keeps him suspicious we need to add you back to the list too.

You can add me back to the list if it ends up helping the town IER. Did it "Seem like" he recruited Bear?

nZane?

Rev?

Freeze?

I'm the ONLY one he's recruited, that has stood out in the write ups. I don't think Sprinkle's clear just yet.

[Wallbanger]

CHANGE VOTE: NO VOTE

If there's doubts, let's keep this out of shenanigans range, though I am not yet convinced that Shape is in the clear.

[Arrows]

CHANGE VOTE: NO VOTE

If there's doubts, let's keep this out of shenanigans range, though I am not yet convinced that Shape is in the clear.

I'm sure Shape's scum, I'm just, not entirely sure he's The Joker, and after last night, I don't really want to start underestimating what The Joker may be capable of when it comes to killing.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (5) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule

Antithesis (1) > The Shape


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

i woud really like some info from Mr T....

Change Vote: No Vote

Joker is more important than whoever Mr. T is.

Whoa whoa whoa... I know I'm not being lynched here or anything, but since when did not providing any information about my character turn me into definite scum? I've simply decided that my best chance for survival until this point has been remaining an unknown.

And guess what? Until we get the Joker, it still will be. Now, you've all seen that there's solid proof that I'm not the Joker. And as much as I would like for the Shape to be the Joker, I've gotta think that it's more likely is Wallbanger. The tactics on display (namely, not killing until this late in the game) along with the fact that Wallbanger is untargetable at night seem to all add up.

And yes, Actarus- you did take control over me last night. I guess it just didn't do anything.

[masterded]

If you are going to say you are not the Joker then vote for someone that we all know can't be The Joker I have a problem. Why would one due that? Only reason I can see is they know that if they try to go after someone we will keep finding out that they can't be the Joker and that you are.

Also the idea of a character who has been Hiding until last night not being able to be found is completely logical the fact you brush that off as a silly idea just makes me feel more confidant in this lynch.

[masterded]

Whoa whoa whoa... I know I'm not being lynched here or anything, but since when did not providing any information about my character turn me into definite scum? I've simply decided that my best chance for survival until this point has been remaining an unknown.

And guess what? Until we get the Joker, it still will be. Now, you've all seen that there's solid proof that I'm not the Joker. And as much as I would like for the Shape to be the Joker, I've gotta think that it's more likely is Wallbanger. The tactics on display (namely, not killing until this late in the game) along with the fact that Wallbanger is untargetable at night seem to all add up.

And yes, Actarus- you did take control over me last night. I guess it just didn't do anything.

What about the "Strong Soul" and the whole green aura that gets shot no one else claimed and none of the dead fit?

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

What about the "Strong Soul" and the whole green aura that gets shot no one else claimed and none of the dead fit?

Which night does this appear on? Pretty certain that's not me.

[masterded]

Which night does this appear on? Pretty certain that's not me.

Wall say this is him

__________________________________________________ ___


He had his target for the night. He was determined to get to the bottom of this one. He crept by the bedroom window, and saw his target sleeping there. He slowly pulled out his gun, not wanting to wake the other one.

Then he shot, three times, and knew his aim was good, as he took off down the road.

However, his target was not hurt. There was merely a green aura around him, but this aura was him, and he is it. His power is inside him, and with him at all times.
__________________________________________________ ___

[masterded]

Wall say this is him

From Night 9. And teh strong soul thing is from what the other guy got when he tried to take walls body.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

From Night 9. And teh strong soul thing is from what the other guy got when he tried to take walls body.

Missed that. So, Joker's almost certainly Shape?

[masterded]

Missed that. So, Joker's almost certainly Shape?

I don't see who else could be. We had a list of people who could be and went through crossed off everybody. Also the things The Shape has done trying to defend himself have been quite weak. Saying someone who has been hiding we would be able to find (and yes the Joker has been in Hiding that is why last nights write-up said his Hide-out). Then goes and votes for someone we know is not the Joker.

[i effin rule]

And as much as I would like for the Shape to be the Joker, I've gotta think that it's more likely is Wallbanger. The tactics on display (namely, not killing until this late in the game) along with the fact that Wallbanger is untargetable at night seem to all add up.

I was able to target Wallbanger on one of the nights.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Well, I'm convinced then.

Vote: The Shape

[Arrows]

I was able to target Wallbanger on one of the nights.

So was I. My ability just......didn't....work? The hell sense does that make. Banger came to the bar, stayed, and left perfectly fine. I'd assume that was him NOT being role-blocked.

Here's the thing that's irking me at the moment.

If Shape's been hiding out, how has he been out recruiting? He HAS to be recruiting, it only makes sense that he has been. There's no way people found him to join him if nobody can target him, and he evidentally hasn't been targeting anyone else?

How does this make sense?

We've got a really smart town left here. We just need to slow ourselves down and think this thing through. Something isn't making any sense.

We know Shape's been untargetable. How many nights can we vouch for this being the case? Surely if he was out recruiting it'd kill that ability, much the same as it would've killed Elle's in Heroes.

I'm really inclined to lean more towards Sprinkle. We know he targeted BIGJOSH, who had a character who would be assumed as recruitable. Evidentally that wasn't the case, but I can see why that'd be an assumption. Do we know WHY he targeted Josh? What he did when he targeted Josh?

[masterded]

So was I. My ability just......didn't....work? The hell sense does that make. Banger came to the bar, stayed, and left perfectly fine. I'd assume that was him NOT being role-blocked.

Here's the thing that's irking me at the moment.

If Shape's been hiding out, how has he been out recruiting? He HAS to be recruiting, it only makes sense that he has been. There's no way people found him to join him if nobody can target him, and he evidentally hasn't been targeting anyone else?

How does this make sense?

We've got a really smart town left here. We just need to slow ourselves down and think this thing through. Something isn't making any sense.

We know Shape's been untargetable. How many nights can we vouch for this being the case? Surely if he was out recruiting it'd kill that ability, much the same as it would've killed Elle's in Heroes.

I'm really inclined to lean more towards Sprinkle. We know he targeted BIGJOSH, who had a character who would be assumed as recruitable. Evidentally that wasn't the case, but I can see why that'd be an assumption. Do we know WHY he targeted Josh? What he did when he targeted Josh?

He The Joker sent someone out. Look at last nights write-up. The first part shows him leaving his hideout. We have never seen that before that makes it a big deal. Think of all that not finding the right target conversation thing there was (the whole strike one strike two thing) that easily could be him talking to his recruiter.

[Comradebot]

He The Joker sent someone out. Look at last nights write-up. The first part shows him leaving his hideout. We have never seen that before that makes it a big deal. Think of all that not finding the right target conversation thing there was (the whole strike one strike two thing) that easily could be him talking to his recruiter.

Good point. Notice that Harley Quinn, Anti-Thesis, was out and about the night I went for her.

Its very likely that the Joker is simply sitting back in his hideout while his flunkies bring people back to him.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (6) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me,

Antithesis (1) > The Shape


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[The Shape]

Ok.

1.) Can you explain why you cannot be targeted? (please no snide comments).

2.) Can you provide a specific example in the night write-ups where you appear. We've had ten night phases; surely you're in one of them by now.

1.) I have said all that I know. Repeatedly. Hence why it's difficult to avoid snide comments, in that I'm getting genuinely wound up here by the fact that something I can do nothing about has left me on the brink while others stand back quite literally laughing.
2.) That's a pretty odd demand...I don't do anything and nobody can target me, so where exactly do you expect me to appear?

At taht point in time yesterday, i was pretty well convinved Casey was Joker. Now, im not so sure. What we have so far says its probably you...

Process of elimination I understand...it's just that some of the wrong people have been eliminated for the wrong reasons. Meanwhile it can easily be proven that nothing has changed at my end.

I'm...not seeing the connection here. Glotnot's been dead for awhile, and he turned out to be Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke, the Terminator. The DC U's #1 badass mercenary. I wouldn't have put much if any stock in anything he had to say, as long as it diverted attention from him or bought him more time.

I'm almost certain he had something to share. Lying about things like that isn't glot's style, and he seemed to think that sharing his info would have benefitted HIS group as well as us. I've not seen any evidence of anyone we thought was in the SS having guests before, hence why I joined the dots that something could be going on. My suggestion being that perhaps Glot thought someone in the SS was also in another group.

I'm sure Shape's scum, I'm just, not entirely sure he's The Joker, and after last night, I don't really want to start underestimating what The Joker may be capable of when it comes to killing.

I don't quite get this. If you're "sure" I'm scum but not Joker, then who do you think I am? The entire reasoning behind the votes on me (and surely your own) is that people associate the being untargetable part with being Joker, when in fact it's something that barely happens as it is, never mind with a scum role. So please, do explain...

If you are going to say you are not the Joker then vote for someone that we all know can't be The Joker I have a problem. Why would one due that? Only reason I can see is they know that if they try to go after someone we will keep finding out that they can't be the Joker and that you are.

Also the idea of a character who has been Hiding until last night not being able to be found is completely logical the fact you brush that off as a silly idea just makes me feel more confidant in this lynch.

A fair point. However, I do think Anti/Harley could be a big threat as judging by what people have said, if anyone is in direct contact with Joker and can't "go straight" as arrows puts it, it's him.

And as for the use of the word "hide-out" etc etc...that clearly indicates he has some sort of permanent base, where people would know where to look. The whole point of hiders is that you don't know where to find them.

I don't see who else could be. We had a list of people who could be and went through crossed off everybody. Also the things The Shape has done trying to defend himself have been quite weak. Saying someone who has been hiding we would be able to find (and yes the Joker has been in Hiding that is why last nights write-up said his Hide-out). Then goes and votes for someone we know is not the Joker.

Think of it as a reflex. The list of surefire scum (where's gonvick btw?) is stacking up and yet here I am on the chopping block. I want to find Joker more than anyone else because it'll finally put me in the clear, only at the time, I was focussed on other things.

If Shape's been hiding out, how has he been out recruiting? He HAS to be recruiting, it only makes sense that he has been. There's no way people found him to join him if nobody can target him, and he evidentally hasn't been targeting anyone else?

I'm really inclined to lean more towards Sprinkle. We know he targeted BIGJOSH, who had a character who would be assumed as recruitable. Evidentally that wasn't the case, but I can see why that'd be an assumption. Do we know WHY he targeted Josh? What he did when he targeted Josh?

Indeed. And bear in mind that there's your role and IER's where you don't have to leave your homes to get people to join you (and you can both be targeted freely). So the way it's presented in the writeup makes sense in itself. That really opens things up again and means that the list needs at least a little re-working...I've thought for a while that the day phases have gone by almost too easily and this pretty much reaffirms my thoughts.

On that basis, looking at the players left sprinkle does seem like the most logical choice. It's struck me as odd that having been fairly outspoken for a long while he's really quietened down in the last couple of phases with no explanation, just before Joker's first kills.

He claimed he's a miller...protector...day-time bomb. But I'd more than happily drop the hammer :p

[Arrows]

He The Joker sent someone out. Look at last nights write-up. The first part shows him leaving his hideout. We have never seen that before that makes it a big deal. Think of all that not finding the right target conversation thing there was (the whole strike one strike two thing) that easily could be him talking to his recruiter.

The Joker was IN MY LOUNGE on Night 5, when he took control over my night actions. Last night was NOT the first time he left his hide-out.

Explain to me how exactly that still works out? He also said strikes towards me. I'm fairly certain I'm one away from death as it stands right now. He's been talking to everyone under him when it comes to the strikes.

Can anyone alive say that they targeted Shape on night 5 and were able to do anything? It was very obviously The Joker himself, who was in my lounge on night 5. Why that one night? Why just me? Why not send someone else to get me if he had been doing the same every other night?

I really don't want us to lynch the wrong guy here. The votes are dangerously close, and if Shape ain't The Joker, this could be a game breaking mis-lynch for us.

Slow down, and let's think about this as a team. Seriously. Stop being in such a rush to lynch someone you're SO sure about, when someone has a GOOD reason to question it.

Can ANYONE say they couldn't find Shape on night 5? If anyone's said so, he can't possibly be The Joker, as he was OUT AND ABOUT that night.

[Tha Black Phenom]

I'm pretty damn sure sprinkle is scum, if he's the Joker though? Well that I don't know. His 'protections' failing 90% of the time really doesn't sit down well with me.

[Tha Black Phenom]

He claims to have not sent in his protection night 5.

[Wallbanger]

I was able to target Wallbanger on one of the nights.

So was I. My ability just......didn't....work? The hell sense does that make. Banger came to the bar, stayed, and left perfectly fine. I'd assume that was him NOT being role-blocked.

There's been plenty of evidence of folks targetting me, but basically no one is going to hurt me or make me do anything against my will at night.

[Actarus]

Ok.
1.) I have said all that I know. Repeatedly. Hence why it's difficult to avoid snide comments, in that I'm getting genuinely wound up here by the fact that something I can do nothing about has left me on the brink while others stand back quite literally laughing.
2.) That's a pretty odd demand...I don't do anything and nobody can target me, so where exactly do you expect me to appear?

As I said, I find you responses to these questions very interesting.

1.) I'm sorry, but that's not going to cut it at this point. Especially when "I have said all that I know." = "I don't know." (which is the response you gave when this was asked previously.) Furthermore, this point came up no more than a 3-4 times and that can be proven by simply reading through all your posts in this thread.

I can tell you the first time this came up. Someone (I want to say goldeneye) asked you why you couldn't be targeted, and you basically said something along the lines of:

/shrug :o

There were two conversations going on at that time, and the other one was a juicier lead at the time. Serendipity for you? Perhaps. And this came up no more than a few times afterwards. So please stop taking the "I addressed this like a gazillion times!" stance. The fact that it keeps coming up as a point of discussion must give you an idea that your answer is inadequate.

2.) There's nothing odd about this question at this point. This point is EXACTLY why I (and everyone else) can say with confidence that Wallbanger, nor Arrows, are NOT the Joker. Hell, pointing myself in a write-up helped clear me of any wrongdoing. Pointing out who you are in a write-up can help clear you easily. That you're missing this point and consider this question odd is...curious.

There are some other points you brought up that I was going to address, but I won't bother. The bottom line is this: if you want to be cleared of any wrongdoing, you need to bring stronger evidence to the table (hence question #2). Whether you CAN'T or WON'T, now that's the million dollar question.

I repeat my two questions, since you haven't actually answered them yet.


1.) Can you explain as specifically as possible why you cannot be targeted?

2.) Can you please provide a specific example in the night write-ups where you appear.

Your second set of responses will be very interesting as well.

[The Shape]

1.) I'm sorry, but that's not going to cut it at this point. Especially when "I have said all that I know." = "I don't know." (which is the response you gave when this was asked previously.) Furthermore, this point came up no more than a 3-4 times and that can be proven by simply reading through all your posts in this thread.

I have mentioned it frequently since I claimed. Which was a frustrated reaction to NOT KNOWING WHY people couldn't target me. Which I clearly didn’t based on previous words with MJD etc.

And it's not a matter of what "cuts it". It's a matter of if you lynch me based not on evidence that I'm scum but the lack of evidence that I'm not (even though it could easily be proved that I'm not Joker if someone targeted me tonight), then you lose what is in reality a STRONG townie role and as we approach the end-game, things look grim for the rest of you. Bear in mind the Society will be killing again tonight as well.

I can tell you the first time this came up. Someone (I want to say goldeneye) asked you why you couldn't be targeted, and you basically said something along the lines of:

/shrug :o

There were two conversations going on at that time, and the other one was a juicier lead at the time. Serendipity for you? Perhaps. And this came up no more than a few times afterwards. So please stop taking the "I addressed this like a gazillion times!" stance. The fact that it keeps coming up as a point of discussion must give you an idea that your answer is inadequate.

My own understanding is inadequate. And seriously, what fun is mafia when you have all of the answers? I think DJ’s gone too far in terms of vagueness with this PM but at the same time I understand the reasoning behind not explicitly spelling things out, and throwing in red herrings now and again.

And what I actually said was “he didn’t look hard enough :o” At the time I didn’t consider it a serious issue; I presumed external factors were at work as it was the first time it’d been brought to my attention.

2.) There's nothing odd about this question at this point. This point is EXACTLY why I (and everyone else) can say with confidence that Wallbanger, nor Arrows, are NOT the Joker. Hell, pointing myself in a write-up helped clear me of any wrongdoing. Pointing out who you are in a write-up can help clear you easily. That you're missing this point and consider this question odd is...curious.

Of course it’s an odd question. I mean, seriously. If I WAS in the write-up I could be cleared but unfortunately that’s not the case for everyone (it wouldn't be a very good game if it was), most markedly myself. I’m not missing the point, in fact it’s the very understanding of this point that makes me lose my patience.

There are some other points you brought up that I was going to address, but I won't bother. The bottom line is this: if you want to be cleared of any wrongdoing, you need to bring stronger evidence to the table (hence question #2). Whether you CAN'T or WON'T, now that's the million dollar question.

I can’t, and by consequence, won’t. I’m doing my best to help us win this game, putting theories forward as asides to the main discussion and trying to defend myself while at the same time unearth the real Joker and finish off the rest of the scum as well (both things clearly aren’t as simple as they sound).

1.) Can you explain as specifically as possible why you cannot be targeted?

That’s not what you asked the first time.

I’ll say it again. My PM begins with a very brief intro, highlighting healing abilities as the main thing that come with the Creeper persona. The second half expands extremely briefly on the role title, and the way I am acting because of it. It doesn’t suggest I’d be hiding anywhere, just that I’m not actively doing anything as a result. When you see that this explanation is almost as long as the PM itself, you'll understand how difficult a role it's been.

He claims to have not sent in his protection night 5.

I think that was the night that I pointed out before he actively posted during it, and he maintained that he’d forgotten.

[Arrows]

I really don't know guys. I honestly feel better about a Sprinkle lynch than I do a Shape lynch, as far as Joker hunting is concerned. The Shape lynch seems too...easy? Everyone's SO ready to just throw the votes on, and get this over with.

Why?

What's the rush?

Why can't we take our time, FOR ONCE, and talk this thing out as a team. That's what we citizens of Gotham are, right? We're a TEAM. Let's start acting like it.

If someone wants to step up and say "It can not possibly be Sprinkle because...", and have a reason solid enough to clear him, speak up. Until then, I'm really starting to wonder about you guys that are SO determined you know what the heck you're talking about when I've provided evidence that states the contrary.

The Joker HAS NOT been sending out someone to do the recruiting for him every night. That's proven by him taking control over me, very clearly, in the night 5 write up. He HAS NOT been hiding every night. That argument makes no sense, and has lost all meaning at this point.

If you're so determined to lynch Shape and possibly screw this game up for Gotham, I'm gonna need a better reason than "He can't be found~!" to throw my vote back that way.

Sprinkle's a bomb?

Am I the only one who thinks it's right up The Joker's alley to pull one last big hoorah, and take someone down with him?

IER, this is another reason I've directed most of everything I'd said up to my claim to you. I know you're a smart guy, and I know you can lead this group. Think about what's going on here. Slow down and take it in. Something ain't adding up, and if we don't figure out what it is NOW, I'm afraid the next day phase, may be a day phase too late.

[i effin rule]

I really don't know guys. I honestly feel better about a Sprinkle lynch than I do a Shape lynch, as far as Joker hunting is concerned. The Shape lynch seems too...easy? Everyone's SO ready to just throw the votes on, and get this over with.

Why?

What's the rush?

Why can't we take our time, FOR ONCE, and talk this thing out as a team. That's what we citizens of Gotham are, right? We're a TEAM. Let's start acting like it.

If someone wants to step up and say "It can not possibly be Sprinkle because...", and have a reason solid enough to clear him, speak up. Until then, I'm really starting to wonder about you guys that are SO determined you know what the heck you're talking about when I've provided evidence that states the contrary.

The Joker HAS NOT been sending out someone to do the recruiting for him every night. That's proven by him taking control over me, very clearly, in the night 5 write up. He HAS NOT been hiding every night. That argument makes no sense, and has lost all meaning at this point.

If you're so determined to lynch Shape and possibly screw this game up for Gotham, I'm gonna need a better reason than "He can't be found~!" to throw my vote back that way.

Sprinkle's a bomb?

Am I the only one who thinks it's right up The Joker's alley to pull one last big hoorah, and take someone down with him?

IER, this is another reason I've directed most of everything I'd said up to my claim to you. I know you're a smart guy, and I know you can lead this group. Think about what's going on here. Slow down and take it in. Something ain't adding up, and if we don't figure out what it is NOW, I'm afraid the next day phase, may be a day phase too late.

Sorry, I'm behind the Shape lynch. If we're wrong, we're wrong, but I don't think we are. If it isn't him then it's a short list of who it can be and we certainly shouldn't be in dire straights when it comes to numbers (we've only had one mislynch to the best of my knowledge).

Also, you're Penguin (allegedly) so I'm weary to trust anything you say :D.

[Actarus]

I really don't know guys. I honestly feel better about a Sprinkle lynch than I do a Shape lynch, as far as Joker hunting is concerned. The Shape lynch seems too...easy? Everyone's SO ready to just throw the votes on, and get this over with.

Why?

What's the rush?

Why can't we take our time, FOR ONCE, and talk this thing out as a team. That's what we citizens of Gotham are, right? We're a TEAM. Let's start acting like it.

If someone wants to step up and say "It can not possibly be Sprinkle because...", and have a reason solid enough to clear him, speak up. Until then, I'm really starting to wonder about you guys that are SO determined you know what the heck you're talking about when I've provided evidence that states the contrary.

The Joker HAS NOT been sending out someone to do the recruiting for him every night. That's proven by him taking control over me, very clearly, in the night 5 write up. He HAS NOT been hiding every night. That argument makes no sense, and has lost all meaning at this point.

If you're so determined to lynch Shape and possibly screw this game up for Gotham, I'm gonna need a better reason than "He can't be found~!" to throw my vote back that way.

Sprinkle's a bomb?

Am I the only one who thinks it's right up The Joker's alley to pull one last big hoorah, and take someone down with him?

IER, this is another reason I've directed most of everything I'd said up to my claim to you. I know you're a smart guy, and I know you can lead this group. Think about what's going on here. Slow down and take it in. Something ain't adding up, and if we don't figure out what it is NOW, I'm afraid the next day phase, may be a day phase too late.

Hey, I’m happy to talk about sprinkle; I think he may be scum as well.

A few refreshers:


In the modern comics he basically shows up at random, as in only when he's not needed and appears to be oftentimes only part of batman's imagination as of late.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat-Mite#Post-Crisis

But I didn't come up with this game, I don't know what the mods had in mind in making Bat-Mite not part of the bat-family.

Character claims Bat-Mite, and also claims to be a protector. And the following is his targets on most of the nights. Regarding Mr. T, he thinks he was busdriven on that particular night.


Night 1 - machinesxe
Night 2 - tried to protect Mr. T Jobs to Me (didn't realize it didn't work, until I realized I wasn't frozen)
Night 3 - BigJosh
Night 4/5 - didn't send either days in in time.
Night 6 - CappyBoy or tried to anyways
Night 7 - Not in time
Night 8 - tried to protect Actarus


Or, something I've been afraid of may have happened, my protection may only work 50/50...

It's just my assumption because of my knowledge of the character, if something like that were in a role I doubt the mods would put it in the character's description.

To be honest, this statement confused me (referring to the part I bolded). Comrade, wasn't it clear in your role PM that your kills / protections only work sometimes? Why wouldn't this detail be clear to sprinkle? Then again, my inexperience may be coming through right now.

[Tha Black Phenom]

...I believe it would.

[The Shape]

Sorry, I'm behind the Shape lynch. If we're wrong, we're wrong, but I don't think we are. If it isn't him then it's a short list of who it can be and we certainly shouldn't be in dire straights when it comes to numbers (we've only had one mislynch to the best of my knowledge).


I don't even know how to phrase my response to this. So as you've been quieter than usual I'd like your own thoughts on things to work off- WHY do YOU think I'm Joker?

[i effin rule]

I don't even know how to phrase my response to this. So as you've been quieter than usual I'd like your own thoughts on things to work off- WHY do YOU think I'm Joker?

I don't think its sprinkle, and to me it has to be you or him. I've been on you for phases now, you know that. I've thought you were scum for a long time, prior to your claim even. I don't buy your Creeper claim and it fits Joker all too well. I know from history and personal use that blaming the mods because your role doesn't make sense is generally a nice scum tell.

Generally speaking a town hider (or someone untargetable) puts himself in the forefront of the town because he is all but immune. You've not done this, you've come off scummy in nearly every move you've made and haven't done anything for the town to look at you and say "I think I can trust him". As I've said, I've thought you were scum for a long time now, early in the game. You've done nothing to make me think otherwise.

[Comradebot]

To be honest, this statement confused me (referring to the part I bolded). Comrade, wasn't it clear in your role PM that your kills / protections only work sometimes? Why wouldn't this detail be clear to sprinkle? Then again, my inexperience may be coming through right now.

Yes, its very explicity clear that I only protect the minority of the time, and the majority of it I should lose control and proceed to butcher the person I targetted.

[Comradebot]

I don't think its sprinkle, and to me it has to be you or him. I've been on you for phases now, you know that. I've thought you were scum for a long time, prior to your claim even. I don't buy your Creeper claim and it fits Joker all too well. I know from history and personal use that blaming the mods because your role doesn't make sense is generally a nice scum tell.

Generally speaking a town hider (or someone untargetable) puts himself in the forefront of the town because he is all but immune. You've not done this, you've come off scummy in nearly every move you've made and haven't done anything for the town to look at you and say "I think I can trust him". As I've said, I've thought you were scum for a long time now, early in the game. You've done nothing to make me think otherwise.

I'd also like to point at, thate everyone else has a downside to their nightime survival abilities.

Actarus can't vote, and when ford and I enter bat mode we risk killing innocent people for the sake of being bulletproof.

Meanwhile, The Shape just gets to be Mr. Invincible, and didn't reveal as such (or speak that much) until he was confronted with it?

You're right, either sprinkle or Shape is The Joker. Here's the punchline: If you're the Joker, I know I can't kill you at night. If we lynch you, and you come up not the Joker, then either ford or myself can attempt to kill sprinkle during the night.

[The Shape]

I don't think its sprinkle, and to me it has to be you or him. I've been on you for phases now, you know that. I've thought you were scum for a long time, prior to your claim even. I don't buy your Creeper claim and it fits Joker all too well. I know from history and personal use that blaming the mods because your role doesn't make sense is generally a nice scum tell.

Generally speaking a town hider (or someone untargetable) puts himself in the forefront of the town because he is all but immune. You've not done this, you've come off scummy in nearly every move you've made and haven't done anything for the town to look at you and say "I think I can trust him". As I've said, I've thought you were scum for a long time now, early in the game. You've done nothing to make me think otherwise.

Honestly disagree with that last point, but then again I have seen a role that couldn't win and was guaranteed to die night one (never let lprock mod here).

And I KNOW this is what is usually regarded as another huge scum tell, but it's what I'm being forced to resort to - if I was Joker, and untargetable, I'd know I was untargetable, so I'd claim as such.

It's not that my role doesn't make SENSE, because in the context of the game it clearly does. HOWEVER, my PM was VAGUE enough to mean I wasn't sure how my role worked until too late in the game to ever really lead the town as you suggested I should. As a result you had as you mentioned been at my throat for days, and you yourself have pretty much been able to lead the town. It's only when you lead it in what I KNOW is the wrong direction that I have to try to step up the level I COULD have been at all game.

And I don't see what I can do to make you trust me beside lead a lynch on Joker, and yet you seem determined not to give me the chance to do that. WHY do you not think it's sprinkle? The dots connect far more thoroughly with him and I can't see how anyone doesn't realise that.

[The Shape]

I'd also like to point at, thate everyone else has a downside to their nightime survival abilities.

Actarus can't vote, and when ford and I enter bat mode we risk killing innocent people for the sake of being bulletproof.

Meanwhile, The Shape just gets to be Mr. Invincible, and didn't reveal as such (or speak that much) until he was confronted with it?

You're right, either sprinkle or Shape is The Joker. Here's the punchline: If you're the Joker, I know I can't kill you at night. If we lynch you, and you come up not the Joker, then either ford or myself can attempt to kill sprinkle during the night.

Having it made impossible in any way beyond lynching to prove that I'm town isn't a downside?!

And I really don't think it's that simple. There's still unexplained variables regarding how Aussie ended up dead and so on that have been completely ignored since this bandwagon began.

[i effin rule]

Honestly disagree with that last point, but then again I have seen a role that couldn't win and was guaranteed to die night one (never let lprock mod here).

And I KNOW this is what is usually regarded as another huge scum tell, but it's what I'm being forced to resort to - if I was Joker, and untargetable, I'd know I was untargetable, so I'd claim as such.

It's not that my role doesn't make SENSE, because in the context of the game it clearly does. HOWEVER, my PM was VAGUE enough to mean I wasn't sure how my role worked until too late in the game to ever really lead the town as you suggested I should. As a result you had as you mentioned been at my throat for days, and you yourself have pretty much been able to lead the town. It's only when you lead it in what I KNOW is the wrong direction that I have to try to step up the level I COULD have been at all game.

And I don't see what I can do to make you trust me beside lead a lynch on Joker, and yet you seem determined not to give me the chance to do that. WHY do you not think it's sprinkle? The dots connect far more thoroughly with him and I can't see how anyone doesn't realise that.

It's a bit late to try and convince people I would think.

[The Shape]

Further to that, the basis behind people saying I'm Joker is that I can't be targeted and he's commonly believed to have been hiding every night (which we know isn't true). Now that he's out killing in the open, that theory is blown out of the water the moment someone tries and finds they still can't target me.

[Actarus]

If I may be allowed to take the discussion in an entirely new direction…what are your thoughts on our multi-voter? Townie? Scum?

[The Shape]

It's a bit late to try and convince people I would think.

Oh come on. There's more than half the day left so far as I recall, so I'm going to do my damndest to turn things around because we have no idea of the consequences. Either way I'll end up vindicated, I'd just much rather I was alive to enjoy it.

[The Shape]

If I may be allowed to take the discussion in an entirely new direction…what are your thoughts on our multi-voter? Townie? Scum?

I didn't realise there was one? I think there's a manipulator because if I remember right the Casey lynch took more than it should, in which case that person's one of the two left in the Society.

[Comradebot]

I didn't realise there was one? I think there's a manipulator because if I remember right the Casey lynch took more than it should, in which case that person's one of the two left in the Society.

The second PROBABLY being Mr. Freeze...

Who I'm pissed still lives.

[Actarus]

I didn't realise there was one? I think there's a manipulator because if I remember right the Casey lynch took more than it should, in which case that person's one of the two left in the Society.

My apologies; I may be using the wrong terms again. :o

The person manipulating the votes? What are your thoughts? Townie? Scum?

[The Shape]

The person manipulating the votes? What are your thoughts? Townie? Scum?

in which case that person's one of the two left in the Society.

;).

[Comradebot]

My apologies; I may be using the wrong terms again. :o

The person manipulating the votes? What are your thoughts? Townie? Scum?

I kinda figured it was Rupert Thorne... I could be wrong, though.

[Actarus]

The second PROBABLY being Mr. Freeze...

Who I'm pissed still lives.

;).

So we're thinking scum? Okay, then I believe are vote manipulator MUST BE one of these three people (in no particular order):


lostrelms
Mr T Jobs To Me
Wallbanger


If any of you three are on, care to confess?

[Actarus]

So we're thinking scum? Okay, then I believe our vote manipulator MUST BE one of these three people (in no particular order):


lostrelms
Mr T Jobs To Me
Wallbanger


If any of you three are on, care to confess?

fixed

[Wallbanger]

My opinion:

I think that sprinkle's claim of Bat-Mite is less credible than Shape's claim of Creeper.

Here's why.

I've avoided stating this overmuch, though I did say it to Actarus at one point. This is not a Batman-themed game; it is a Gotham City-themed game. There IS a difference, albiet a subtle one.

Creeper (aka Jack Ryan) has a tie to Gotham City as a media personality. Bat-Mite's only tie into Gotham City (the geographical place in the DC Universe) is through Batman. Bat-Mite doesn't live in Gotham. Creeper does.

If I had to put money on one of the two being a false claim, I would be betting on Bat-Mite, simply because I know who I am and how I relate to Gotham City, the geographical place.

VOTE: sprinklefurball

[Wallbanger]

And I am not a multivoter.

[Wallbanger]

OR vote manipulator, or anything else relating to voting. I have one vote that counts just like everyone else who has one vote.

[Actarus]

OR vote manipulator, or anything else relating to voting. I have one vote that counts just like everyone else who has one vote.

Oh, you had to bring up my vanilla townieness, didn't you? :p

Lostrelsm? Mr T? You there?

[The Shape]

Yeah...it's not Lostrelms.

[Actarus]

Yeah...it's not Lostrelms.

You know this how?

[The Shape]

And to think I felt stupid yesterday :D

[The Shape]

You know this how?

If you've been checking through my posts like you said there's no way you could have missed that exchange, unless you didn't check the recent stuff...

[Comradebot]

About Sprinklefurball...


He hasn't posted in over two days. In other words, he may not have been around during the time the PMs were sent in for the last night phase.

[Actarus]

If you've been checking through my posts like you said there's no way you could have missed that exchange, unless you didn't check the recent stuff...

Actually, I checked through your posts specifically looking for your responses to being questioned about not being able to target you. Those were the only exchanges I was interested in. Everything else, I ignored.

[Actarus]

Actually, I checked through your posts specifically looking for your responses to being questioned about not being able to target you. Those were the only exchanges I was interested in. Everything else, I ignored.

So yes, I did miss that exchange. But I'll go hunt for it now.

[Wallbanger]

About Sprinklefurball...


He hasn't posted in over two days. In other words, he may not have been around during the time the PMs were sent in for the last night phase.

He hasn't posted, but that's not proof he hasn't logged in and been reading/PM'ing.

Since he's invis, you can't get his last activity from his user record.

[Actarus]

And to think I felt stupid yesterday :D

Jerk :D

[The Shape]

About Sprinklefurball...


He hasn't posted in over two days. In other words, he may not have been around during the time the PMs were sent in for the last night phase.

And before, he did post several times on a night when he said he forgot to send in his PM...

His absence is unexplained altogether; it strikes me more as laying low right before he strikes so to speak, than simply disappearing.

[i effin rule]

So we're thinking scum? Okay, then I believe are vote manipulator MUST BE one of these three people (in no particular order):


lostrelms
Mr T Jobs To Me
Wallbanger


If any of you three are on, care to confess?

Definitely not LR.

[Wallbanger]

Another point:

One of the things that is causing doubt on Shape's claim is that he has a powerful ability that has no balancing weakness, like others have. I can tell you that I have no such balancing weakness either, so in and of itself I can't say that is a valid tipoff.

Now, I could very easily be wrong. I'm still not convinced that Shape isn't scum, but if it's coming down to a 50/50 between Shape and sprinkle to not only be scum but be Joker, I think my vote's in the right place now.

[Comradebot]

Definitely not LR.

Anyone having anything on Mr T that I might've missed? All I've got on Wallbanger is that he claims to be old, and my likely wrong guess at who that was a hint at.

[Actarus]

And to think I felt stupid yesterday :D

Woah...that went over my head C O M P L E T E L Y. :o

You know what, I'm a dumb ****. Carry on.

[The Shape]

Woah...that went over my head C O M P L E T E L Y. :o

You know what, I'm a dumb ****. Carry on.

Aha, I felt the same way initially. Then he went from one extreme to the other lol.

[Actarus]

Anyone having anything on Mr T that I might've missed? All I've got on Wallbanger is that he claims to be old, and my likely wrong guess at who that was a hint at.

To be perfectly honest, I find 'Banger's clues confusing. Just when I think I got it, he gives a clue that makes me think it's someone else. Certain things don't appear to add up based on my knowledge of the DCU and Gotham. I think it's safe to say he's not the Joker (unless a townie comes by right now and claims green aura bulletproof man). He may be scum though.

Same with Mr. T not being Joker, as he was frozen on a night Joker was active. He may be scum as well though.

And I think one of these two is a vote manipulator, if my logic is correct. Which after my most recent faux pas, may not be at all...

[Wallbanger]

To be perfectly honest, I find 'Banger's clues confusing. Just when I think I got it, he gives a clue that makes me think it's someone else. Certain things don't appear to add up based on my knowledge of the DCU and Gotham. I think it's safe to say he's not the Joker (unless a townie comes by right now and claims green aura bulletproof man). He may be scum though.

OK, I'm curious. Who do you THINK I am?

[Actarus]

OK, I'm curious. Who do you THINK I am?

Look at the tattoo on your shoulder.

[Comradebot]

Look at the tattoo on your shoulder.

But are any of them, you know... old?

[Actarus]

But are any of them, you know... old?

That's what's confusing me...unless you go really old school, and even then...

[Wallbanger]

That's what's confusing me...unless you go really old school, and even then...

You're on the right path.

I am Alan Scott.

[Actarus]

You're on the right path.

I am Alan Scott.

What I get for not reading wiki...

Last time I checked on the golden age GL, I was certain he was de-aged to youth. Hence the confusion; but according to the mighty wiki, most recently, he not only resembles his crickety old self, but he's even missing his left eye. But he got a better one.

Now I trust this claim even more, as it's strongly supported in the write-up as well.

So if my voter manipulator logic is correct, that would leave Mr T...

[Actarus]

Oh, meant to post this yesterday.

Happy Belated B-Day, Mr. Banger. :)

[Comradebot]

What I get for not reading wiki...

Last time I checked on the golden age GL, I was certain he was de-aged to youth. Hence the confusion; but according to the mighty wiki, most recently, he not only resembles his crickety old self, but he's even missing his left eye. But he got a better one.

Now I trust this claim even more, as it's strongly supported in the write-up as well.

So if my voter manipulator logic is correct, that would leave Mr T...

Mr T, time to job to me!

Oh HO! Bad play on words...

[Wallbanger]

Oh, meant to post this yesterday.

Happy Belated B-Day, Mr. Banger. :)

Many thanks!

[The Shape]

Look I have to go, so I’ll break things down once again:

Why people want to lynch me;

- I can’t be targeted at night.

Meaning it can’t be proven whether I’m town or not, making me a nice and easy lynch who can’t REALLY convince people otherwise. However think about a few things; firstly, untargetable scum as a concept in itself doesn’t really work, no matter which way you look at it. And much more importantly, Joker has been seen in various places; he CLEARLY targeted Arrows, he was out killing last night and a lot of the time he’s been at his hide-out. He’d not a hider, he’s not hiding, he just has a base, like any such role would.

Furthermore, his kills looked like the start of something (note how the previous night's writeup built up to it almost; "I haven't even started" etc). While he's out, you'd be able to find him. It's not even a question of being able to prove I'm not him like that anymore as things have narrowed down, but still. Worth a mention.

- I haven’t stepped up to lead the town despite being all but invincible.

The suspicion on my head has made it pretty much impossible. And until today, IER and co. have been doing a good enough job by themselves.

- My role title has a "The" in front of "Creeper"

From what I’ve checked he’s called both in various places, but the wiki page is entitled Creeper on its own. Like so much else, I can’t do anything about that, I don’t want to get into saying how things would be different if it was false but seriously...it was Mr. Rupert Thorne who brought that up and it’s been mentioned a worrying amount of times since.

- General scumminess

I won’t even try to deny that, in the early phases, I was my usual vague self, but since I’ve put it all out there I’ve been as honest as honest can be...if defending myself is scummy then so be it.

Why we should lynch sprinklefurball:

- HE’S THE JOKER!

I KNOW this to be a fact, because the list has come down to him or me. Once he’s down, we lynch Harley, we lynch Freeze, we see if T's the missing link in the Society. THEN it’s as easy as it sounds; then we can all hold hands and wrap things up together, but letting Joker slip through the net once again (think of how many times his name's been brought up in the past, but it's never gotten close to lynch territory) is a risk we just can’t afford to take, no matter how well things have been going.

I’ll admit his play has been rather poetic; talkative all the while as Joker builds his group and now he’s making his mark, laying in the shadows. But that’s only worth so much, heh.

- And well, his claim...

He says he’s Bat-mite, a miller/protector/bomb. Bizarrely I believe the last part more than the rest, however whatever happens I’ll hammer the lynch if it comes to that. I die, I finally vindicate myself in the process, and get to boast to my friends about being a martyr on a role-based game on the internet. I live, and I get to avoid my friends for several more days in order to play a role-based game on the internet, in which I’ve finally been cleared and can come to the fore in the way I want to. When that happens, THEN there’s no downside, but it’s not something to complain about :D

But seriously, I think I owed myself this. Hell I owe it to Crychon lol, as in Hollywood Horror I pretty much just let myself get lynched without putting up a fight (although that probably did the town good in the long run, with MJD and all). That was earlier on in the game though and now I'm in a completely different frame of mind. Even in Star Wars, and before that Marvel...when Shape's town he gets offed by the town (when he lives beyond night one, as my stint as Mrs. Tompkins proved). Here, you are the ONLY guys who can get rid of me. And well, I don't want that to happen here. I want to win, yeah, but I want to damn well survive. We'll probably win either way, but putting the ball in sprinkle's court is not only an unneccessary risk...it'd ruin my day. xD Ciao...

[Arrows]

The second PROBABLY being Mr. Freeze...

Who I'm pissed still lives.

Freeze is aligned with The Joker. Why else would I be forced to role-block you last night?

About Sprinklefurball...


He hasn't posted in over two days. In other words, he may not have been around during the time the PMs were sent in for the last night phase.


I think Banger summed it up pretty well, honestly. His dissapearance actually worries me. Why now? Why at the end game, when if he's telling the truth, we NEED him to be here to help us?

[Comradebot]

change vote: sprinklefurball

Whatever god you all believe in (or don't) help us if this isn't the right call.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Well, sprinkle's protecting claim is bull anyway - there's no mention of Lucius Fox being protected on night 1(one of the few protections he's reportedly succeeded), and thus I'm unsure about him protecting BIGJOSH as well.

Change Vote: sprinklefurball

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (6) > Lostrelms, Comradebot, masterded, Tha Black Phenom, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me,

Antithesis (1) > The Shape

Sprinklefurball (1) > Wallbanger


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (4) > Lostrelms, masterded, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me,

Antithesis (1) > The Shape

Sprinklefurball (3) > Wallbanger, Comradebot, Tha Black Phenom


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[masterded]

First credit to arrows. So did anyone target The Shape on Night 5. (I know I didn't Mine was night 7 bak was on night 3.)

[masterded]

Also The Shape saying it isn't him but still trying to take out anti does not sit well with me at all. Why not vote for sprinkle already shape?

[i effin rule]

Um...lets slow down a sec guys. We're being led away from Shape by Shape and The Penguin.

I know how Arrows works and he never gives up and knows exactly what he's doing and how to try and squeeze out a win. While I'm not willing to lynch him right now, there is no chance I'm going to be trusting him. I just can't pull myself into trusting The Penguin.

[Comradebot]

This is too much for my brain...


Also, I want to start a game with a new promotion in the updated 1997 CVerse data... the idea is a small, semi-Gothic influenced company in Northumberland, England. No idea what to call it though, and I want a better name than "Northumberland Pro Wrestling"

[Actarus]

I'll let a true native help you out there Comrade.

Would I be right in saying Minister Whitey & Anti will unthaw tonight?

[masterded]

Um...lets slow down a sec guys. We're being led away from Shape by Shape and The Penguin.

I know how Arrows works and he never gives up and knows exactly what he's doing and how to try and squeeze out a win. While I'm not willing to lynch him right now, there is no chance I'm going to be trusting him. I just can't pull myself into trusting The Penguin.

Agrees.

I also don't see me changing my vote anytime soon. We need the Joker now can't have him killing three people night and Mr. F taking out who knows how many. We will have no chance.

[i effin rule]

This is too much for my brain...


Also, I want to start a game with a new promotion in the updated 1997 CVerse data... the idea is a small, semi-Gothic influenced company in Northumberland, England. No idea what to call it though, and I want a better name than "Northumberland Pro Wrestling"

WWN

Wicked Wrestling of Northumberland

[Comradebot]

I've thought it over

change vote: The Shape


I agree with my own original plan. If The Shape isn't the Joker, atleast I know I might be able to get sprinklefurball killed during the night. Meanwhile, if Shape is The Joker (or any scum) then he's immune to any form of death except a lynch. Personally, I wouldn't be shocked if DJ made The Joker impossible to kill at night to insure his survival until late in the game.

[Arrows]

Um...lets slow down a sec guys. We're being led away from Shape by Shape and The Penguin.

I know how Arrows works and he never gives up and knows exactly what he's doing and how to try and squeeze out a win. While I'm not willing to lynch him right now, there is no chance I'm going to be trusting him. I just can't pull myself into trusting The Penguin.

NOW you wanna slow down?

I've been trying to convince you guys to slow down and us talk about this, what, all day now? I know you don't trust me IER. I don't expect you to. You're right, I'm not the type to give up when there's still any sign of hope, and that's exactly why I'm pushing so hard right now.

If we make the wrong lynch today, with Joker offing a few a night, we have ZERO chance of winning this game. THIS LYNCH is going to be a huge one in this game. Maybe the one that makes or breaks this game, and I...Do Not...Want To Lose. I don't like losing.

I REALLY think Sprinkle is the right choice IER. I REALLY think Sprinkle is The Joker. I can't shake the feeling that something with Shape being the Joker doesn't sit right. It doesn't make sense to me, with the whole night five thing. If Shape's been hiding every night(What, we just got unlucky and picked nights he wasn't hiding?), how the hell did the Joker get to me night 5?

If you can come up with an explanation, I'm interested.

[Arrows]

Shoulda been was hiding, in the above post.

[masterded]

Sprinkle said he a was a pro. Which bigjosh said was ture after sprinkle said it. Why would Joker be a pro?

[i effin rule]

NOW you wanna slow down?

I've been trying to convince you guys to slow down and us talk about this, what, all day now? I know you don't trust me IER. I don't expect you to. You're right, I'm not the type to give up when there's still any sign of hope, and that's exactly why I'm pushing so hard right now.

If we make the wrong lynch today, with Joker offing a few a night, we have ZERO chance of winning this game. THIS LYNCH is going to be a huge one in this game. Maybe the one that makes or breaks this game, and I...Do Not...Want To Lose. I don't like losing.

I REALLY think Sprinkle is the right choice IER. I REALLY think Sprinkle is The Joker. I can't shake the feeling that something with Shape being the Joker doesn't sit right. It doesn't make sense to me, with the whole night five thing. If Shape's been hiding every night(What, we just got unlucky and picked nights he wasn't hiding?), how the hell did the Joker get to me night 5?

If you can come up with an explanation, I'm interested.

I meant slowing down on switching votes based off The Penguin and the guy we're trying to lynch. :p

[i effin rule]

It's probably just a case of The Joker not being targetable at night. He doesn't have to be electing to hide, he may just be passively untargetable. It seems to me that in this story The Joker is laying low underground and waiting for a chance to set the world on fire. It makes perfect sense to me that he could both be doing stuff but because of the story and who he is, he's just one step ahead and can't be targeted.

[masterded]

Also I want to add. A don that can do an action that sacrifices an ability is nothing new. When I was the Don I came up town unless I used my ability (vote manipulation). The Joker being the same wouldn’t surprise me or be a big change from other games.

[masterded]

It's probably just a case of The Joker not being targetable at night. He doesn't have to be electing to hide, he may just be passively untargetable. It seems to me that in this story The Joker is laying low underground and waiting for a chance to set the world on fire. It makes perfect sense to me that he could both be doing stuff but because of the story and who he is, he's just one step ahead and can't be targeted.

or this could be why.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (5) > Lostrelms, masterded, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me, Comradebot

Antithesis (1) > The Shape

Sprinklefurball (3) > Wallbanger, Tha Black Phenom


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[djthefunkchris]

Be back later. Have fun!

[Arrows]

I've thought it over

change vote: The Shape


I agree with my own original plan. If The Shape isn't the Joker, atleast I know I might be able to get sprinklefurball killed during the night. Meanwhile, if Shape is The Joker (or any scum) then he's immune to any form of death except a lynch. Personally, I wouldn't be shocked if DJ made The Joker impossible to kill at night to insure his survival until late in the game.

If we lynch Shape and he's not The Joker, I can assure you you'll either be frozen or role-blocked tonight, making whatever you think you might could do absolutely USELESS.

[Arrows]

It's probably just a case of The Joker not being targetable at night. He doesn't have to be electing to hide, he may just be passively untargetable. It seems to me that in this story The Joker is laying low underground and waiting for a chance to set the world on fire. It makes perfect sense to me that he could both be doing stuff but because of the story and who he is, he's just one step ahead and can't be targeted.

So this dude can kill more than one person a night, and can't be targeted for ANYTHING?

I don't see it.

[Arrows]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (5) > Lostrelms, masterded, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me, Comradebot

Antithesis (1) > The Shape

Sprinklefurball (3) > Wallbanger, Tha Black Phenom


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

You have Sprinkle at 3 despite there only being 2 votes on him

Vote: Sprinklefurball

[Comradebot]

If we lynch Shape and he's not The Joker, I can assure you you'll either be frozen or role-blocked tonight, making whatever you think you might could do absolutely USELESS.

Hey, there's still ford, too. They'll have to stop us both. With any luck, one of us could slip through and kill someone.

[Wallbanger]

Hmm. Not sure what to think, other than a deadlock is the worst possible outcome. I don't like the idea of this turning into a game of chicken.

[Wallbanger]

Hey, there's still ford, too. They'll have to stop us both. With any luck, one of us could slip through and kill someone.

The same person who you've lamented about not participating?

[masterded]

All this is about Sprinkle

I can say this...I trust Sprinkle after last night.

I don't know what he intended to do but I stole from him so he was not effective.

I believe he's town so revealing what he can do is not necessary to reveal.

I don't know why a mafia protector would have protected me on night two.

Sprinkle said he a was a pro. Which bigjosh said was ture after sprinkle said it. Why would Joker be a pro?

Just so people can remember what I am talking about.

[Arrows]

The same person who you've lamented about not participating?

Not to mention now that he's said it, Joker could easily block both, given he has my roleblock and Freeze.

[i effin rule]

So this dude can kill more than one person a night, and can't be targeted for ANYTHING?

I don't see it.

He was active last night, as in killing. Last night is the first time he's done the dirty work himself. We don't know whether or not he was targetable last night, but I would assume so.

[Arrows]

All this is about Sprinkle











Just so people can remember what I am talking about.

No clue what's up with those. Maybe Joker's recruitment acts as a protection, the exact same way mine does?

[i effin rule]

Not to mention now that he's said it, Joker could easily block both, given he has my roleblock and Freeze.

Good thing we have townies who can help out and see what's going on tonight then, huh? At least one of the two can be roleblocked. So someone will be able to use their abilities tonight.

[i effin rule]

I'd just like to point out that any "townie" or person who can win with the town who stalls a lynch or lets a no lynch happen at this point probably isn't a "townie".

[Arrows]

Good thing we have townies who can help out and see what's going on tonight then, huh? At least one of the two can be roleblocked. So someone will be able to use their abilities tonight.

*Shrugs*

You guys don't wanna talk this out and figure things out, I'll kick back and watch ya lynch the wrong guy.

[Wallbanger]

Great. IER vs. Arrows in a test of wills. Should be entertaining if nothing else.

[i effin rule]

Great. IER vs. Arrows in a test of wills. Should be entertaining if nothing else.

Not a test of wills, if the town really wanted to go for sprinkle I would. But based on the votes it seems that they want to lynch Shape.

[Arrows]

Great. IER vs. Arrows in a test of wills. Should be entertaining if nothing else.

Nobodies gonna listen to me over Alfred and The Bat, and I'm gonna wind up laughing when this becomes the single greatest Epic Fail in the history of GDS Mafia.

[i effin rule]

Nobodies gonna listen to me over Alfred and The Bat, and I'm gonna wind up laughing when this becomes the single greatest Epic Fail in the history of GDS Mafia.

If the town lynches scum every day but 1 (and yes I clearly think Shape is scum) and loses, then that isn't an Epic Fail that's an Epic Flaw.

[Comradebot]

Nobodies gonna listen to me over Alfred and The Bat, and I'm gonna wind up laughing when this becomes the single greatest Epic Fail in the history of GDS Mafia.

Clearly you missed lprock's Han Solo claim.

[Arrows]

Clearly you missed lprock's Han Solo claim.

Aussie's "Arrows" roleclaim pwned every other role-claim...ever.

[masterded]

Took me forever to find what I was looking for. Bigjosh was outed day 3. So sprinkle had no way of knowing night 2 that he was Catwoman. Also on night 1 Bigjosh was not a theif meaning that even a mafia investigator couldn’t have told him theft BigJosh was a theif. So he wouldn’t have a clue who BigJosh was. Which removes any chance that sprinkle picked to target BigJosh night w knowing he was catwomen and would be a character he could thing would have a good chance of changing sides.

[Arrows]

Took me forever to find what I was looking for. Bigjosh was outed day 3. So sprinkle had no way of knowing night 2 that he was Catwoman. Also on night 1 Bigjosh was not a theif meaning that even a mafia investigator couldn’t have told him theft BigJosh was a theif. So he wouldn’t have a clue who BigJosh was. Which removes any chance that sprinkle picked to target BigJosh night w knowing he was catwomen and would be a character he could thing would have a good chance of changing sides.

Interesting. Alright, then why did he target BIGJOSH? To protect him? Sprinkle protected a guy that's(No offense Josh), been one of the weakest players in mafia games here?

[i effin rule]

Took me forever to find what I was looking for. Bigjosh was outed day 3. So sprinkle had no way of knowing night 2 that he was Catwoman. Also on night 1 Bigjosh was not a theif meaning that even a mafia investigator couldn’t have told him theft BigJosh was a theif. So he wouldn’t have a clue who BigJosh was. Which removes any chance that sprinkle picked to target BigJosh night w knowing he was catwomen and would be a character he could thing would have a good chance of changing sides.

Sprinkle targeted BIGJOSH night 3. BUT, I know JOSH referenced sprink being a protector, did he every mention that he stole from him?

[masterded]

To add I know that doesn’t mean he can't be joker but shape or arrows one of them talked about how sprinkle probably targeted bigjosh knowing he was catwoman and had a good chance of being one he could turn.

[masterded]

Sprinkle targeted BIGJOSH night 3. BUT, I know JOSH referenced sprink being a protector, did he every mention that he stole from him?

I forgot that bigjosh said night 2 and sprinkle said night 3 damn it. That is what happens when you go through a couple 100 post sorry.

Also yeah a protection.

[i effin rule]

I forgot that bigjosh said night 2 and sprinkle said night 3 damn it. That is what happens when you go through a couple 100 post sorry.

Also yeah a protection.

That confirms it for me then. There is absolutely ZERO chance that the Joker would be a protector.

[masterded]

I forgot that bigjosh said night 2 and sprinkle said night 3 damn it. That is what happens when you go through a couple 100 post sorry.

Also yeah a protection.

I should add I want this to be a slam dunk lynch and get the right person. I have been reading the whole game over again looking for anything.

[Arrows]

Sprinkle targeted BIGJOSH night 3. BUT, I know JOSH referenced sprink being a protector, did he every mention that he stole from him?

IER, the protector thing honestly worries me.

Look at my role.

I recruit to the town, role-block, and protect. I turn them good, stop them from doing stupid ****, and save their sorry butts for a night.

The Joker having an ability close to a duplicate of my own(Likely minus the role-block, as doing evil things would only help him further), would make complete sense. Otherwise, we've got, what?..4 unkillable good guys, and he'd make...mmm..what..the 8th protector?

[i effin rule]

IER, the protector thing honestly worries me.

Look at my role.

I recruit to the town, role-block, and protect. I turn them good, stop them from doing stupid ****, and save their sorry butts for a night.

The Joker having an ability close to a duplicate of my own(Likely minus the role-block, as doing evil things would only help him further), would make complete sense. Otherwise, we've got, what?..4 unkillable good guys, and he'd make...mmm..what..the 8th protector?

I still think sprink could be scum, a mafia protector. Protecting JOSH in order to look *good* knowing there was a chance he'd be watched.

Also, while unlikely, I suppose I could buy Penguin protecting. But there is no chance in hell that the Joker would be a protector. Zero. Zilch. None. Negative. He doesn't care enough to protect anyone. Protecting goes against EVERYTHING he stands for.

[Arrows]

I still think sprink could be scum, a mafia protector. Protecting JOSH in order to look *good* knowing there was a chance he'd be watched.

Also, while unlikely, I suppose I could buy Penguin protecting. But there is no chance in hell that the Joker would be a protector. Zero. Zilch. None. Negative. He doesn't care enough to protect anyone. Protecting goes against EVERYTHING he stands for.

Even The Joker couldn't win this one alone. Recruiting someone and them dying the same night's bad for business.

[masterded]

Even The Joker couldn't win this one alone. Recruiting someone and them dying the same night's bad for business.

So is killing them if they fail 3 times.

[i effin rule]

Even The Joker couldn't win this one alone. Recruiting someone and them dying the same night's bad for business.

That's the beauty of The Joker. It's never about business.

[masterded]

I got some **** I got to take car of, think I will take off a little early the dumb ass crew is about to play Rock band and I don't want to hear them sing.

[Arrows]

That's the beauty of The Joker. It's never about business.

Is called a win condition. Can't meet that win condition alone.

[Comradebot]

Is called a win condition. Can't meet that win condition alone.

When you're unkillable at night, would it really make sense he could also insurea SECOND member of his faction would remain unkillable?

[Arrows]

When you're unkillable at night, would it really make sense he could also insurea SECOND member of his faction would remain unkillable?

Pssst.

You do realize you've failed to kill Freeze, how many times now?

Oh...sorry. Darn. Guess I'm just thinking stupid here.

[i effin rule]

Pssst.

You do realize you've failed to kill Freeze, how many times now?

Oh...sorry. Darn. Guess I'm just thinking stupid here.

The sounds of desperate scum? Probably.

Its starting to look like this lynch isn't going to happen.

[Wallbanger]

Its starting to look like this lynch isn't going to happen.

We have more than 24 hours still, let's not be overly fatalistic yet.

I don't mind making a case, but if I have to switch my vote late to make sure somebody hangs, I'm ok with that.

[Arrows]

The sounds of desperate scum? Probably.

Its starting to look like this lynch isn't going to happen.

Desperate? Damn skippy? Scum? Only at night.

Look, maybe ya didn't catch it.

I'm kicking MY OWN ASS in this game. I can't win with The Joker, and yet every night I'm forced to do what HE wants. I want the guy dead just as much, if not more, than the rest of you.

[i effin rule]

We have more than 24 hours still, let's not be overly fatalistic yet.

I don't mind making a case, but if I have to switch my vote late to make sure somebody hangs, I'm ok with that.

Even with your vote we need 3 right? I'm not concerned with getting it over quickly, I just wonder if there are more good guys around to vote than there are bad guys to not.

[Actarus]

I don't know what he intended to do but I stole from him so he was not effective.

Even with your vote we need 3 right? I'm not concerned with getting it over quickly, I just wonder if there are more good guys around to vote than there are bad guys to not.

And that's one reason why I asked when Whitey & Anti thaw out.

[i effin rule]

Desperate? Damn skippy? Scum? Only at night.

Look, maybe ya didn't catch it.

I'm kicking MY OWN ASS in this game. I can't win with The Joker, and yet every night I'm forced to do what HE wants. I want the guy dead just as much, if not more, than the rest of you.

So you say. You want to win at all costs, so forgive me if I'm not quick to accept the truth from you. I'm not so sure you'll do what is in the town's best interest when the time comes.

[Arrows]

So you say. You want to win at all costs, so forgive me if I'm not quick to accept the truth from you. I'm not so sure you'll do what is in the town's best interest when the time comes.

I'm not here to do anything bad! I want to help SAVE Gotham, darnit.

[sprinklefurball]

About Sprinklefurball...


He hasn't posted in over two days. In other words, he may not have been around during the time the PMs were sent in for the last night phase.
Honestly, I wasn't online for the last few days. I just kept having other things to do. I feel horrible missing three-four phases in a row

[Comradebot]

Honestly, I wasn't online for the last few days. I just kept having other things to do. I feel horrible missing three-four phases in a row

Proof The Shape is The Joker, or a clever scheme to get The Shape lynched instead of himself?

[Actarus]

Honestly, I wasn't online for the last few days. I just kept having other things to do. I feel horrible missing three-four phases in a row

sprinkle...now that you're on right now, I think the ball is in your court. The town is divided. You and shape are the #1 choices for a lynching. You need to give the town something to go on, and something good. Got it?

How's that for pressure? :p

[i effin rule]

Honestly, I wasn't online for the last few days. I just kept having other things to do. I feel horrible missing three-four phases in a row

Anything you'd like to discuss about the allegations against you? Now is the time to be honest.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (5) > Lostrelms, masterded, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me, Comradebot

Antithesis (1) > The Shape

Sprinklefurball (3) > Wallbanger, Tha Black Phenom, Arrows


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Something tells me lynching Joker will take like 2/3 of the votes.

[The Shape]

Anything you'd like to discuss about the allegations against you? Now is the time to be honest.

Funny, that. Don't you think? Seems like there's someone who he can talk to.

There's only one thing left to do at my end, though I said I'd be the hammer if the time comes when I'm around. Given that I'm only going to be here 10 minutes..."the time" will have to be the morning. ;)

[Actarus]

Something tells me lynching Joker will take like 2/3 of the votes.

/nod

Did...did...please don't tell me sprinkle LEFT?!

[Comradebot]

/nod

Did...did...please don't tell me sprinkle LEFT?!

Even if he's not The Joker, sprinkle officially is a jerk.

[sprinklefurball]

Vote: Antithesis
If we know for sure Antithesis is Harley, isn't it fairly possible we'll lose the joker the next day or night.
Lynching me will just show you that I'm not The Joker, I am Gotham Aligned, and that my protection powers would've been good for the town if I hadn't been lynched.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 11. You have untill 10pm eastern Tuesday, 3am GMT Wednesday to come up with a lynch. With 16 people remaining, it takes 9 for a lynch.

The Shape (5) > Lostrelms, masterded, i effin rule, Mr T Jobs To Me, Comradebot

Antithesis (2) > The Shape, sprinklefurball

Sprinklefurball (3) > Wallbanger, Tha Black Phenom, Arrows


Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[i effin rule]

Vote: Antithesis
If we know for sure Antithesis is Harley, isn't it fairly possible we'll lose the joker the next day or night.
Lynching me will just show you that I'm not The Joker, I am Gotham Aligned, and that my protection powers would've been good for the town if I hadn't been lynched.

Come again?

[sprinklefurball]

Didn't I see people thinking Antithesis was Harley when I was looking through the posts of the last few days...

[sprinklefurball]

I have a feeling it's like the team roles where the one would die the next day.

Plus, I did claim something that you guys may or may not want to finish lynching a few days back...

[sprinklefurball]

And if you guys didn't notice I'm visible now...because I have no one to talk to through pm.

[The Shape]

LOL at his and I's votes being in the same place. Though in fairness, lynching me wouldn't really do him any favours. It's almost as if he's playing dumb, because well...he's proved earlier in the game he's more intuitive than this, though I do think now he has somebody giving him tips (or at least telling him when to get his arse on the forum).

I'm confident enough that his bomb claim etc is rubbish to drop the hammer myself and I would enjoy the poetic justice, so if you're hesitant on that front or just want me to wake up to something good, feel free to keep this one going for say...8 more hours...and I'll do the honours. I know I'm by no means off the hook myself until we've strung him up, but please, read things as thoroughly as possible and try to see where I'm coming from with this.

[sprinklefurball]

What I'm saying is if we lynch Harley I'm pretty sure The Joke (the Shape) will die.

[Comradebot]

What I'm saying is if we lynch Harley I'm pretty sure The Joke (the Shape) will die.

Seems highly unlikely, given the fact that one more than one occaison in the comics and animated series The Joker was more than happy to sacrifice Harley.

Honestly, it makes me just that more suspicious of you.

[i effin rule]

What I'm saying is if we lynch Harley I'm pretty sure The Joke (the Shape) will die.

Um...I doubt that the big bad Don of this game has a suicide role. Maybe Harley if Joker dies, but not the other way around.

If you think Shape is Joker....why not vote Shape?

[sprinklefurball]

Change Vote: The Shape
You're right, Comrade, maybe it'll happen the other way around though, especially seeing as Red's already dead.

[Arrows]

Um...I doubt that the big bad Don of this game has a suicide role. Maybe Harley if Joker dies, but not the other way around.

If you think Shape is Joker....why not vote Shape?

Because he doesn't want Shape to die, not be Joker, and him be screwed. If we lynch Harley, he's safe from that, and he knows it.