The Gotham City Mafia Game Thread

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Either there's alternating kills, or we have a cult. Or maybe like what we've seen recently in these games, a cult like group that builds itself up and can have quasi mafia powers over the course of the game.

(Storyline wise, the recent escapees could merge into a group of their own over time).

Could you explain the MJ thing a little better? I didn't see it.

Looking back to re-explain it, it seems like I read that part wrong: I thought mjd was the first "he" there, and also had bad intentions. Now that I read it again, I'm pretty sure Scarecrow is the first guy and dj hasn't handed anyone over to us on a silver platter. :D

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Astil is being replaced by The Shape.

We tried very hard to reach Astil, but could not find evidence of him being around (even his own sight) since the 16th. We hope everything is ok with him, and that he understand should he return.

Hey, he can't double dip to catch up with me! This only counts as either 1.0 or 0.5 games as town... Depending on what he came back as.

[Arrows]

So with everything that has gone on yesterday and last and finally catching up I still think something is up with Blode. He pushed extremely hard and said he was absloutly sure that TP was mafia due to a PM. I would like to gather more information from him regarding this because it seems weird that he pushed so hard and could guarentte that TP was scum based on that PM.

So Blode what did this PM say?

Until then I am putting pressure your way.

Vote:Blode

If for some reason anyone can point out something I have missed that would clear him prior to me posting this please let me know so I can correct this.

Vote: Blode

Gotta admit, now that that wound up being an Epic Fail, I'm fairly interested in what Blode's got to say as to why he was soooooo sure. Evidently that PM didn't say anything too incriminating.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (10) > Antithesis, Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.

Bear (1) > Tha Black Phenom.
Blode (2) > machinesxe, Arrows.

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[blackphoenix]

I'm going to go to bed, but I think at the moment a blode pressure is more productive that infinity... especially since he did give us something.

Vote: Blode

No lynching while I'm asleep.

1 question... With Deadshot and Meryn most likely in the game at this point, do you think they would be more likely to alternate-kills as part of the Killer Elite? Or deadshot as seperate and Meryn with Ra?

Also... since Meryn was cast out from the LoA for failing a hit (is that right, sounds like it from his wiki) do you think that if he fails a hit he could become indy? Or that just too much.

Just thoughts out there.

Night

[The Shape]

With blode having being allowed to mention the PM I'm surprised he wasn't more specific over what it said, especially given DJ saying he had seen it and thought it was MEANT to go to blode. However he does tend to be more aggressive with searching for other scum when he is scum himself. Still I think infinity looks worse atm.

Hey, he can't double dip to catch up with me! This only counts as either 1.0 or 0.5 games as town... Depending on what he came back as.

:D

[Bear]

Based on what happened, I think by next day phase, MJD should be able to tell us who is the Scarecrow. That'd be an interesting PGO roleblock. But I doubt that's the only thing Scarecrow can do.

[infinitywpi]

With blode having being allowed to mention the PM I'm surprised he wasn't more specific over what it said, especially given DJ saying he had seen it and thought it was MEANT to go to blode. However he does tend to be more aggressive with searching for other scum when he is scum himself. Still I think infinity looks worse atm.

Really? I look worse than someone who got a PM and used that as the basis to lynch a townie, yet hasn't told us what's in it? Why is that? Have I roleclaimed Joker or something?

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (10) > Antithesis, Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Bear (1) > Tha Black Phenom.
Blode (3) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix.

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[infinitywpi]

Vote: Blode

Time to spill the PM, man.

[Bear]

<p>She was going to act, but something made her go in there. A cold drink would be nice! That's all she can really remember.</p>

Or maybe this is MJD...

[Imarevenant]

I'm going to go to bed, but I think at the moment a blode pressure is more productive that infinity... especially since he did give us something.

Vote: Blode

No lynching while I'm asleep.

1 question... With Deadshot and Meryn most likely in the game at this point, do you think they would be more likely to alternate-kills as part of the Killer Elite? Or deadshot as seperate and Meryn with Ra?

Also... since Meryn was cast out from the LoA for failing a hit (is that right, sounds like it from his wiki) do you think that if he fails a hit he could become indy? Or that just too much.

Just thoughts out there.

Night

I think that would probably be too much, Mafia's already start outnumbered so failing any kill is a setback. Punishing them twice by making their hitman leave the group would be a little harsh.

Plus, then you'd have to devise a way for the hitman to not know the identities of the rest of the group in case he goes indy. That way he can't just rat out the entire mafia.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (10) > Antithesis, Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Bear (1) > Tha Black Phenom.
Blode (4) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi.

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[cappyboy]

Really? I look worse than someone who got a PM and used that as the basis to lynch a townie, yet hasn't told us what's in it? Why is that? Have I roleclaimed Joker or something?

You know, I find this to be a very good question too. You behavior may have been curious regarding Bear. But Blode should be surrounded with alarm horns based on this move. There definitely needs to be some enlightenment there.

http://www.1966batfan.com/artcarney.html

1966 tv series character..

The Archer

Now I know that Merlyn or whatever his name is possibility has been mentioned and because of that discussion that he's an archery assassin from a comic storyline I predictably missed out on. But based on what I've been able to know of Batman coming in, this is a possibility I can relate to better than this Merwyn or whatever he's called. And if we have the possibility of a 60's villian as minor as Archer being in, that expands my interest in the possibility of Blode being Bookworm.

Vote: Blode

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (10) > Antithesis, Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Bear (1) > Tha Black Phenom.
Blode (5) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy.

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[djthefunkchris]

I've got just over an hour left, then off to work. Won't be back till around 9pm (eastern) tonight.

I'm sure Crychon will be home before me, but just in case, I wanted to let you guys know when to expect me back.

[Bear]

You know, I find this to be a very good question too. You behavior may have been curious regarding Bear. But Blode should be surrounded with alarm horns based on this move. There definitely needs to be some enlightenment there.

I don't know if he was distracting from me necessarily, but if he was trying to, I wouldn't understand because I had planned on voting for him, but I'm not going to be frivolous with my vote. However, I would definitely like to be able to get a better bearing on Blode's info.

[The Shape]

Really? I look worse than someone who got a PM and used that as the basis to lynch a townie, yet hasn't told us what's in it? Why is that? Have I roleclaimed Joker or something?

Well right now i'm thinking he was told not to post the PM content itself, though I guess DJ can't clarify either way.

However, I think that whatever the case, blode's intention was to get scum lynched. Doesn't clear his name by any means, it's just he's quite aggressive no matter what. You, on the other hand, were picked up on for quite the opposite.

[Wallbanger]

From a narrative standpoint, I think the Ras al Guhl mafia theory is the most credible.

I may not be reading it right, but I thought mjd was incapacitated by the Scarecrow's fear toxin trap?

[Bear]

From a narrative standpoint, I think the Ras al Guhl mafia theory is the most credible.

I may not be reading it right, but I thought mjd was incapacitated by the Scarecrow's fear toxin trap?

That's what I thought, originally, but would that person be incapacitated? There's a lot going on and a lot of She did, he did. The only way we'll really know is when MJD can speak again. I'd love to know who Scarecrow is, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up.

[BIGJOSH]

I agree with other who have said that Blode has explaining to do. He assured us that he was sure that TP would be of no good to the town after seeing his PM...of course we all know how that ended up. It's time for Blode to spill the beans and tell us what that PM said.

Vote: Blode

[Antithesis]

...

Maybe you've figured out a way to discuss things on a message board in your sleep, but personally? I haven't typed while sleeping since I was in college, mate. I work, I sleep before work, sorry I'm not able to play the game on your schedule. After the last lynch went relatively fast and got us very little info beyond Bear's hammer, I figured it'd be a good thing to remind people not to go after Bear without trying to find out something else, first. Stop being such an arse.

(reads rest of thread)

Christ. Well, at least we're trying to learn something. Too bad it's from the wrong person. Gotham-aligned here, folks. And finding it very interesting how certain people managed to do the 'deflecting suspicion' thing.

Anyway, here's my own contribution to the discussion: The archer in the writeup? I'm thinking Merlyn, the archer for the League of Assassins... which would be a perfect group of scum in this game, with Ra's, Talia, Merlyn, one or two more...

Infinitywpi, the wanna discuss mafia games narcoleptic.



So, what was it you wanted to discuss anyway?

[i effin rule]

Really? I look worse than someone who got a PM and used that as the basis to lynch a townie, yet hasn't told us what's in it? Why is that? Have I roleclaimed Joker or something?

I'm not coming to Blode's aid here because he very well could be scum. However, I thought he was specifically asked NOT to tell what was in the PM? Are people forgetting that or just ignoring it as a basis for making him look suspicious?

[Tha Black Phenom]

Change Vote: The Shape

YOU CAN'T BE TOWN FOREVER!

...alright, fine.

Change Vote: Blode

Obviously his situation needs looking into. It's interesting he was SO sure the PM was revealing of scummy matters.

[i effin rule]

What I don't get is the reasoning behind the Blode bandwagon. There clearly was a PM, DJ admitted to it. So he wasn't lying there.

A scum trying to get a townie killed because he got a very townie PM from him? A) I doubt DJ would have said what he did if this were the case. B) What on Earth would Blode gain by hanging up a townie? C) If I were scum and someone sent me a PM that I wasn't suppose to get and it was laced with pro town stuff, I think I'd much rather get the mod to mod kill them than get them lynched and thus make myself look like scum.

This is my logic, anyone else care to explain what it is about Blode that is so scummy?

[infinitywpi]

If Blode was told not to discuss the PM, then I missed that post... and if that's the case, then yes, I'm pushing way too hard and will gladly remove my vote.

Infinitywpi, the wanna discuss mafia games narcoleptic.

So, what was it you wanted to discuss anyway?

Did you not even read the post you quoted, where I posit a League of Assassins scumgroup? Or do you intentionally ignore these things just so you can look like more of an arsehole?

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (10) > Antithesis, Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Blode (7) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, BIGJOSH, Tha Black Phenom


Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Bear]

I don't think he needs to tell us what was in the PM but more why he used the metaknowledge in game.

[cappyboy]

I'm not coming to Blode's aid here because he very well could be scum. However, I thought he was specifically asked NOT to tell what was in the PM? Are people forgetting that or just ignoring it as a basis for making him look suspicious?

Okay. So let me ask you this. What makes you think this? Jog our memories on it if you would. My primary concerns on Blode come from character connections. So if this point is in fact backwards and doesn't bolster my concerns, I can back away from it. No big loss. I'll just have to watch for other facts to either prove or settle them. But please. Enlighten us.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

What I don't get is the reasoning behind the Blode bandwagon. There clearly was a PM, DJ admitted to it. So he wasn't lying there.

A scum trying to get a townie killed because he got a very townie PM from him? A) I doubt DJ would have said what he did if this were the case. B) What on Earth would Blode gain by hanging up a townie? C) If I were scum and someone sent me a PM that I wasn't suppose to get and it was laced with pro town stuff, I think I'd much rather get the mod to mod kill them than get them lynched and thus make myself look like scum.

This is my logic, anyone else care to explain what it is about Blode that is so scummy?

That's pretty much my feeling on this. Common sense dictates that Blode wouldn't stick out like that if he were scum just to try to get an already semi-doomed townie lynched. I think his actions are almost even a townie tell.

In fact, this has probably been one of the worst bandwagons I've ever seen. I put the thinking level behind this on par with the time in South Park where everyone had gay sex to prevent the future.

[The Shape]

I don't think he needs to tell us what was in the PM but more why he used the metaknowledge in game.

What would there be to tell? As late as last game people were called out based on PMing (lprock in fact, while he was "at the store" :D). It happens, and blode especially wouldn't just sit back having got something, which he clearly did.

i_e_r, I think we need to consider the possibility that blode is scum and he thought tobias was as well.

[Antithesis]

If Blode was told not to discuss the PM, then I missed that post... and if that's the case, then yes, I'm pushing way too hard and will gladly remove my vote.



Did you not even read the post you quoted, where I posit a League of Assassins scumgroup? Or do you intentionally ignore these things just so you can look like more of an arsehole?

Sorry, I am tired.. I stayed up alllll night hitting refresh waiting on this great idea you wanted to discuss.

I'm still waiting.

p.s. please stop with the ad hominem. You did this last game as well. If it continues I'll have to go and complain to a forum mod, and none of us want that.

[i effin rule]

I would personally like to request that he's not able to.

I really don't like the idea of meta gaming, and I hate the fact that this even got brought up. I don't think it should go any further. Nothing more about what it said should be mentioned, let alone shown, in the interest of fairness. Could ruin the game if we know too much.

Vote: Blode

Gotta admit, now that that wound up being an Epic Fail, I'm fairly interested in what Blode's got to say as to why he was soooooo sure. Evidently that PM didn't say anything too incriminating.

Just thought I would point this out. Arrows asking for the information in the PM not to be revealed. And now, in a roundabout way, he's asking what was so incriminating in the PM.

Just found it odd.

[The Rock 13]

Vote: Blode

He needs to explain this pm more it got a tonie lynched, not a good thing..

[Antithesis]

Bear being one of them.

Vote: Bear

He was pretty much the hammer on the lynch, and even went HAMMA. RIGHT AFTER.

Then during Nightphase.

Vote: Bear

Just for good measure, I'll go look on more names from the first day phase.

Well, we're off to a smashing start...

LEt's actually discuss the game before lynching someone for a possibly inadvertant hammer this time, mmmkay?



You can pretend that you fell asleep before discussing your Meryn idea, but what you actually posted was a complaint about people voting Bear.

Still makes no sense.

[i effin rule]

Okay. So let me ask you this. What makes you think this? Jog our memories on it if you would. My primary concerns on Blode come from character connections. So if this point is in fact backwards and doesn't bolster my concerns, I can back away from it. No big loss. I'll just have to watch for other facts to either prove or settle them. But please. Enlighten us.

What makes me think that he was asked not to? I read the thread? A couple of people asked him in the thread not to post it because it could ruin the game. I also assume that the mods asked the same thing.

What would there be to tell? As late as last game people were called out based on PMing (lprock in fact, while he was "at the store" :D). It happens, and blode especially wouldn't just sit back having got something, which he clearly did.

i_e_r, I think we need to consider the possibility that blode is scum and he thought tobias was as well.

On what basis? What, other than Tobias coming up town, leads to Blode being scum?

[infinitywpi]

Sorry, I am tired.. I stayed up alllll night hitting refresh waiting on this great idea you wanted to discuss.

I'm still waiting.

p.s. please stop with the ad hominem. You did this last game as well. If it continues I'll have to go and complain to a forum mod, and none of us want that.

Ad hominem? No, I'm just putting a name to how you're acting. Seriously, you don't see it? You acted this way last game as well.

And you're still waiting even after I pointed out what I was going to discuss?

You can pretend that you fell asleep before discussing your Meryn idea, but what you actually posted was a complaint about people voting Bear.

Still makes no sense.

... okay, so you aren't ignoring what I wrote... and yet, now, you're misintepretting it. I didn't complain against people voting Bear... I warned people not to put votes on him too fast before we learn anything else, like the day before.

So what possible reason could you have for mis-reading that beyond... ohhhh, I get it. It's okay, man, your secret's safe with me.

Change vote: Antithesis.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (10) > Antithesis, Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Blode (7) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, cappyboy, BIGJOSH, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13.
Antithesis (1) > infinitywpi


Let me know if you see a mistake.

NOTE: Have a few minutes, then I'm off. Hate when someone votes right when I post vote count, making mine look wrong>< :)

[Antithesis]

On what basis? What, other than Tobias coming up town, leads to Blode being scum?

Competing scum groups. With 49 people, if Blode's in scum group A and thinks TP is in scum group B and maybe he can get some brownie points for helping to lynch TP...

Same thing with me and you in VG mafia when I was absolutely certain you were scum.

[The Shape]

On what basis? What, other than Tobias coming up town, leads to Blode being scum?

Just...this seems like what he'd do. He's way more aggressive as scum than town in my experience, be it towards other groups or even his own don in one game where he was a usurper which I mentioned before. Nothing really "leads to" it as such...but especially in a game this size it's something that like I said, should be considered, at least for the future.

[i effin rule]

Competing scum groups. With 49 people, if Blode's in scum group A and thinks TP is in scum group B and maybe he can get some brownie points for helping to lynch TP...

Same thing with me and you in VG mafia when I was absolutely certain you were scum.

Just...this seems like what he'd do. He's way more aggressive as scum than town in my experience, be it towards other groups or even his own don in one game where he was a usurper which I mentioned before. Nothing really "leads to" it as such...but especially in a game this size it's something that like I said, should be considered, at least for the future.

I'm not saying it's not a possibility. Any combination of 30% of this game could be scum. My point is, what is there on Blode that makes us have to pressure him now outside of "he tried to lynch scum who turned up town he must be scum". From my point of view, we have as much evidence of Blode being scum as we do either of you.

[The Shape]

... okay, so you aren't ignoring what I wrote... and yet, now, you're misintepretting it. I didn't complain against people voting Bear... I warned people not to put votes on him too fast before we learn anything else, like the day before.

Not really a valid statement about the day before...a lot of ideas had been thrown around and it was that fact which prompted tobias's comment and everything that followed. All you did was stall the momentum of growing pressure, which to this moment has got nowhere, and unless you have some affliation to bear there was no reason for doing so...the votes were minimal.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Just thought I would point this out. Arrows asking for the information in the PM not to be revealed. And now, in a roundabout way, he's asking what was so incriminating in the PM.

Just found it odd.

Arrows being a little more focused on the PM than the average bear is noteworthy, but since the guy PMing was town and probably wasn't in a group with anyone... I don't see what anyone had to fear.

You can pretend that you fell asleep before discussing your Meryn idea, but what you actually posted was a complaint about people voting Bear.

Still makes no sense.

I really don't like that infinity derailed 1 bandwagon, then stonewalled a bandwagon on himself, then joined (in my opinion) a stupid bandwagon.

Or that he would rather spend time speculating as to which scum character that shoots a bow and arrow was included rather than pursue said character... I think I'm ok with where my vote is for now.

[The Shape]

I'm not saying it's not a possibility. Any combination of 30% of this game could be scum. My point is, what is there on Blode that makes us have to pressure him now outside of "he tried to lynch scum who turned up town he must be scum". From my point of view, we have as much evidence of Blode being scum as we do either of you.

Like I keep referencing, it's past experience, on my part at least.

[i effin rule]

Not really a valid statement about the day before...a lot of ideas had been thrown around and it was that fact which prompted tobias's comment and everything that followed. All you did was stall the momentum of growing pressure, which to this moment has got nowhere, and unless you have some affliation to bear there was no reason for doing so...the votes were minimal.

I'd personally be more inclined to pressure Bear at this point that Blode. There seems to be more leads pointing to Bear than Blode. Hammer stuff, nZane's death, at least there is reasoning behind that road.

The Blode bandwagon to me seems like an opportunity lynch for the scum.

[i effin rule]

Like I keep referencing, it's past experience, on my part at least.

Understandable, but unfortunately since you aren't confirmed and there isn't anything that people can actually analyze, I just don't think it's a viable option at this time. You could be right though, no doubt, and I know it seems like I'm sticking my neck out for the guy (I'm not, I promise) but there doesn't seem to be anything I can grasp that makes me have a feeling he is scum.

[Antithesis]

Ad hominem? No, I'm just putting a name to how you're acting. Seriously, you don't see it? You acted this way last game as well.

And you're still waiting even after I pointed out what I was going to discuss?



... okay, so you aren't ignoring what I wrote... and yet, now, you're misintepretting it. I didn't complain against people voting Bear... I warned people not to put votes on him too fast before we learn anything else, like the day before.

So what possible reason could you have for mis-reading that beyond... ohhhh, I get it. It's okay, man, your secret's safe with me.

Change vote: Antithesis.


What you've never seen Columbo?

pfft

Yeah poor Bear, he had two votes on him, time to warn the other 24 or so people who'd have to vote to not myslynch him before passing out.

We've established you went to sleep, apparently you haven't woken up yet.

Anyway, you've caused enough of a scene to hopefully be looked into later. If your town you should be happy, doubt scum will kill you tonight.

Change Vote: Blode

IER makes some good points, but he forgets Blode didn't just volunteer the info, the way I read it, he campaigned for the lynch. The tone of the posts were like, 'TP is scum, I have no doubt'.

Blode kind of staked himself to that outcome.

[The Shape]

Understandable, but unfortunately since you aren't confirmed and there isn't anything that people can actually analyze, I just don't think it's a viable option at this time. You could be right though, no doubt, and I know it seems like I'm sticking my neck out for the guy (I'm not, I promise) but there doesn't seem to be anything I can grasp that makes me have a feeling he is scum.

Fair enough, I agree it's not the right way to go atm but I'll have my reservations until they're disproved or confirmed, heh. And I'd forgotten about the hammer vote stuff, hmm.

[i effin rule]

IER makes some good points, but he forgets Blode didn't just volunteer the info, the way I read it, he campaigned for the lynch. The tone of the posts were like, 'TP is scum, I have no doubt'.

Blode kind of staked himself to that outcome.

People thought he was scum even before the Blode post though. I'm not quite sure on the numbers, but I think there were quite a few on Tobias based on his posts well before Blode revealed his information. Why, when a townie or scum for that matter, would scum stick their necks out that far when there is a chance of the vote going through anyway? It just doesn't make sense to me.

[The Shape]

Blode kind of staked himself to that outcome.

Honestly...this doesn't really help the case against him at all.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (9) > Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Blode (9) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, BIGJOSH, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis.


Let me know if you see a mistake.


AND I'm out of here.

[Antithesis]

Wasn't it Cappyboy that got busted in Barebones for trying to Hammer vote?

For you peeps new to the game, the Hammer vote thing has caught scum in the past, so it isn't something people are just making up.

[infinitywpi]

Not really a valid statement about the day before...a lot of ideas had been thrown around and it was that fact which prompted tobias's comment and everything that followed. All you did was stall the momentum of growing pressure, which to this moment has got nowhere, and unless you have some affliation to bear there was no reason for doing so...the votes were minimal.

... I didn't stall any pressure. The people putting votes on me did that just fine on their own. I never said to not vote for Bear, I said to talk things out first. If you want to see who's stalling pressure, look at who started the wagon on me.

I really don't like that infinity derailed 1 bandwagon, then stonewalled a bandwagon on himself, then joined (in my opinion) a stupid bandwagon.

... I derailed a bandwagon that had two votes, by saying we should try to learn as much as we can before setting up an 'accidental' hammer again? Um... okay. I stonewalled a bandwagon on myself? I guess I should have just let it go without doing anything, then. And I joined a stupid bandwagon? Wouldn't be the first time... like you said, it's called pressure. Doesn't mean I want him lynched, it means I want him talking.

Or that he would rather spend time speculating as to which scum character that shoots a bow and arrow was included rather than pursue said character... I think I'm ok with where my vote is for now.

... I gotta object to this part right here. Where do you get the idea that I don't want to pursue the 'scum character who shoots a bow'? We don't know who he is. Want I want is to get more information, so we can get a scoop on who we need to lynch, instead of lynching randomly off some random PM that should or shouldn't've been sent to the person who received it. If I knew who the killer was? I'd be voting for them.

[i effin rule]

Wasn't it Cappyboy that got busted in Barebones for trying to Hammer vote?

For you peeps new to the game, the Hammer vote thing has caught scum in the past, so it isn't something people are just making up.

That put the pressure on him, but catching him PM'ing is what got him lynched.

[infinitywpi]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (9) > Midnightnick, Bluestar, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Blode (9) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, BIGJOSH, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis.


Let me know if you see a mistake.


AND I'm out of here.

I changed my vote to Antithesis.

[Antithesis]

People thought he was scum even before the Blode post though. I'm not quite sure on the numbers, but I think there were quite a few on Tobias based on his posts well before Blode revealed his information. Why, when a townie or scum for that matter, would scum stick their necks out that far when there is a chance of the vote going through anyway? It just doesn't make sense to me.

Well, there were other factors. I, for one, didn't vote on TP until Machine started taking up for him. I didn't think it was a slam bang lynch until Blode came in.

My way of looking at it, Blode sealed TP's fate.

Is that enough to lynch Blode.. maybe, maybe not.

It's certainly enough to ask for some explanation.

Barring that, again unless someone volunteers something all I have atm is Blode and the Bear/infinity thing.

All of which could be a misunderstanding.

[The Shape]

... I didn't stall any pressure. The people putting votes on me did that just fine on their own. I never said to not vote for Bear, I said to talk things out first. If you want to see who's stalling pressure, look at who started the wagon on me.

What you said lead to a change in direction. No denying that. You had a part in it as did those who reacted, but still.

Anyhow, what do you yourself think of Bear?

[cappyboy]

Just thought I would point this out. Arrows asking for the information in the PM not to be revealed. And now, in a roundabout way, he's asking what was so incriminating in the PM.

Just found it odd.

Thank you. I'm with you now. And I have to admit I do find that curious. It does seem like Arrows is trying to ride high in the straddle on this point. Question is "Why"?

What makes me think that he was asked not to? I read the thread? A couple of people asked him in the thread not to post it because it could ruin the game. I also assume that the mods asked the same thing.


Fair enough. I admit I do go lax on my legwork sometimes. My sleep habits are rather odd when I'm in prime Mafia playing siutations. So that can affect my willingness for some of the grunt work at times. But you finding the quotes on this and them being Arrows intrigues me. I may have something to double check something in Day 1 in light of that little nugget once I can rally the mental energy to do it.

[i effin rule]

Vote: Bear

I just think this is the best lead we have right now.

[Antithesis]

All righty, I just got a response from a mod, and suffice it to say that I got a PM from TP that was meant for another player.

I dunno who that player is, but from the general tone of the message, I can tell you it was nothing good.

Were you talking to him in PM about something else? Because the PM feature allows the name to be filled in for you... could be the message was meant for someone else who's name starts with the letters BL

Nope, just completely out of the blue.

On a mafia game on a different site, blode received a PM from Glot about a mafia forum by mistake. This is pretty much the same thing, right blode?

I don't think we have much of a choice. I hate that it happened though. That's as crappy as when Wallbanger was going to replace me in SW1, and then someone said they were linked to him before he died.

If nothing else we have options for investigation, tracking, watching, etc tonight. Though it would be nice to get some info from those two before the day is done. Meaning...

Vote: Bluestar



IER was there any reason why you didn'tw ant to vote for TP.

And don't like voting for Blode now?

I noticed day 1, Blode says TP is scum, you voted people for the autofill thing.


It strikes me as odd now.

[Antithesis]

Sorry those quotes were actually for something else.

[d_w_w]

Just thought I would point this out. Arrows asking for the information in the PM not to be revealed. And now, in a roundabout way, he's asking what was so incriminating in the PM.

Just found it odd.

Good point.

What makes me think that he was asked not to? I read the thread? A couple of people asked him in the thread not to post it because it could ruin the game. I also assume that the mods asked the same thing.


Plausible, but we don't know if the mods asked the same thing of him. It's also possible that Blode opted to not spill the beans given the fact that a few people in the thread asked him not to... the mods might not have been involved at all.

I'm not saying it's not a possibility. Any combination of 30% of this game could be scum. My point is, what is there on Blode that makes us have to pressure him now outside of "he tried to lynch scum who turned up town he must be scum". From my point of view, we have as much evidence of Blode being scum as we do either of you.

This, I disagree with - I've got nothing on Anti or Shape (2.0) at this point. Yet, clearly, Blode should do his best to explain his actions.

He said that received a PM that he thought was scummy. That's a possibility... but it's also possible that he received a PM that made TP look like an important townie and opted to bus himself to take TP out.

Even if he can't quote the PM, he should be able to paraphrase what was said. I absolutely do not see how it's problematic to pressure Blode at this point...

Understandable, but unfortunately since you aren't confirmed and there isn't anything that people can actually analyze, I just don't think it's a viable option at this time. You could be right though, no doubt, and I know it seems like I'm sticking my neck out for the guy (I'm not, I promise) but there doesn't seem to be anything I can grasp that makes me have a feeling he is scum.

Yeah, here's the deal though - it's day phase, we have to vote for and pressure folks. Aside from Blode, I'd be happy putting pressure on Bear and Infinity (but in my mind, the cases against Bear and Infinity are based on even less than the case against Blode...). At this point though, it seems like Blode's claim caused us to kill TP... and surely that has to be addressed?

Really, regardless of whether you are sticking your neck our for him or not, he should be made to defend himself. At this point, you're basically saying that we shouldn't even pressure him... which I really don't get.

People thought he was scum even before the Blode post though. I'm not quite sure on the numbers, but I think there were quite a few on Tobias based on his posts well before Blode revealed his information. Why, when a townie or scum for that matter, would scum stick their necks out that far when there is a chance of the vote going through anyway? It just doesn't make sense to me.

I'll read back, as I don't recall TP being a "sure" lynch before Blode talked about the PM. If so, then this would cause me to rethink things (and yet, I'd still want to hear from Blode...).

[infinitywpi]

What you said lead to a change in direction. No denying that. You had a part in it as did those who reacted, but still.

Anyhow, what do you yourself think of Bear?

Honestly?

Timeline:

10:12PM CST: masterded casts vote #23
10:13PM CST: dj posts a vote list showing 22 votes, having been writing up the post while masterded was posting.
10:14PM CST: dj posts a corrected vote list showing 23 votes.
10:14PM CST: cappyboy costs vote #24
10:14PM CST: bear costs vote #25, thinking it's #23.
10:15PM CST: bear sees that other votes occured in the meantime, and realizes he hammered.

I think it's stupid to vote for bear for being the hammer, when it was a matter of seconds between him and cappyboy's votes, and only two minutes between their votes and vote #23. Even DJ himself missed vote #23; jumping on bear for missing it is just plain wrong.

The only thingg I can find to support a bear lynch is that, for taking two minutes to write his post (tho, given how forum time works, it might've only been 62 seconds) is that his post consisted solely of this:

Make it 23.

Vote: TobiasParker

That seems like a long time to write that, altho if he has his settings so that he's reading 40 or so posts in a page, it might've taken him that long between loading the page, reading it all (by which point cappy had posted, but he didn't knwo that) and doing a 'quick reply' to cast his vote.

There's a chance he's scum, yes. But there's a chance everyone is scum; he's done nothign more scummy than most; if not for a matter of seconds, cappyboy would be the one getting the suspicion here.

I'm surprised Antithesis, who watched the time so closely that he knew it'd been forty minutes since I last posted, didn't notice how quickly all those votes and votecounts came to each other.

[i effin rule]

IER was there any reason why you didn'tw ant to vote for TP.

And don't like voting for Blode now?

I noticed day 1, Blode says TP is scum, you voted people for the autofill thing.


It strikes me as odd now.

I wanted to wait to hear from Tobias and try and gather as much other information as we could before the end of the phase. I was voting for the autofill thing because at that time we were under the impression that it was an accidental PM. There was no reason for me to vote Tobias at the time.

Not that there was any way to prove it, but I was going to vote for him after 11 (if he hadn't posted anything) but I never got the chance.

[Bear]

The reason behind Blode explaining his intentions would put us closer to deciding if he's scum or not. It's a way of finding more about the situation without ruining the fun or compromising the game.

It's going to keep coming back to me putting down the hammer vote(unintentionally), so let me take the blame for getting a little excited. The page before I posted, I said I didn't mind being the hammer vote in my zeal to be useful. It took me up to that point to catch up, or I would have joined in sooner. Everyone was being goofy and I'm new so I was trying to fit in. If there are still concerns, I can try and prove myself in another way.

[The Shape]

He said that received a PM that he thought was scummy. That's a possibility... but it's also possible that he received a PM that made TP look like an important townie and opted to bus himself to take TP out.

Now this is plausible. The character seemed fairly low-profile but I remember blackphoenix suggesting it could have been an investigator, will need to check what came of it.

[Antithesis]

I'm surprised Antithesis, who watched the time so closely that he knew it'd been forty minutes since I last posted, didn't notice how quickly all those votes and votecounts came to each other.


Maybe I took a nap :rolleyes:

or maybe I didn't notice the time thing because I am not connected to bear and therefore have no reason to spend any effort trying to defend him

doh doh doh doh doh

[Undertaker666]

While you were all thinking Tweedledee and Tweedledum, I was thinking of Two-Face, but that's just likely because I have no idea who Tweedledee and Tweedledum are. :p

So Blode what did this PM say?

It would be against the rules of the game to tell us what the pm said.

I may not be reading it right, but I thought mjd was incapacitated by the Scarecrow's fear toxin trap?

^ That's what I thought too.

As I said at the end of yesterday's phase, I think Blode needs looking into. He may not be able to tell us about the pm, but he can tell us who he is.

Vote: Blode

[i effin rule]

This, I disagree with - I've got nothing on Anti or Shape (2.0) at this point. Yet, clearly, Blode should do his best to explain his actions.

He said that received a PM that he thought was scummy. That's a possibility... but it's also possible that he received a PM that made TP look like an important townie and opted to bus himself to take TP out.

Even if he can't quote the PM, he should be able to paraphrase what was said. I absolutely do not see how it's problematic to pressure Blode at this point...



You're free to pressure anyone you want. I still say that if I was scum and a power role pm'ed me, I'd get him mod killed before I stuck my neck out to lynch them. By all accounts it was on purpose and against the rules, he should have been mod killed.


Yeah, here's the deal though - it's day phase, we have to vote for and pressure folks. Aside from Blode, I'd be happy putting pressure on Bear and Infinity (but in my mind, the cases against Bear and Infinity are based on even less than the case against Blode...). At this point though, it seems like Blode's claim caused us to kill TP... and surely that has to be addressed?

Really, regardless of whether you are sticking your neck our for him or not, he should be made to defend himself. At this point, you're basically saying that we shouldn't even pressure him... which I really don't get.


I have no problem questioning or pressuring people, I've said that I don't buy into the Blode bandwagon and I think Bear is a much more viable option. I think there is more of a reason to pressure Bear than Blode, and don't feel there is enough on Blode to warrant pressuring him right now. Don't you think he would have been a viable candidate for some townie night actions last night?



I'll read back, as I don't recall TP being a "sure" lynch before Blode talked about the PM. If so, then this would cause me to rethink things (and yet, I'd still want to hear from Blode...).

I don't recall saying it was a sure thing, I said that there was a chance of the lynch going through without Blode's message.

[infinitywpi]

Maybe I took a nap :rolleyes:

or maybe I didn't notice the time thing because I am not connected to bear and therefore have no reason to spend any effort trying to defend him

doh doh doh doh doh

So, you're saying you don't examine the evidence for and agaisnt someone before you vote on them?

That's dangerous play... it could cost the town the game. Of course, scum wouldn't care...

[i effin rule]

Off to class.

[Antithesis]

So, you're saying you don't examine the evidence for and agaisnt someone before you vote on them?

That's dangerous play... it could cost the town the game. Of course, scum wouldn't care...

When did I vote on Bear?
doh doh doh doh doh

[Antithesis]

Seriously, go back to sleep.

[infinitywpi]

When did I vote on Bear?
doh doh doh doh doh

Well, gotta admit, you've got me on that one.

Perhaps instead of 'vote' I should have said 'consider scummy'.

[infinitywpi]

Seriously, go back to sleep.

From the guy complaining about ad hominem...

[Antithesis]

Well, gotta admit, you've got me on that one.

Perhaps instead of 'vote' I should have said 'consider scummy'.

Since you admitted that I'll meet you half way.

Scummy as in relation to everything else so far.

Really, day 2, nobody has much to go on. But you'll note, I think Blode is the stronger play.

My issue with Bear wasn't the Hammer Vote(though I could see why some find it suspicious). It was the way you came in after he had two votes on him.

I just look for possible connections is all.

Even if you two are connected, doesn't necessarily mean you are scum. Could be part of a Bat mason group for all I know.

But I can't learn more unless I ask, and sometimes that entails me acting like an arsehole.

[Antithesis]

Plus I owed you some sarcasm from last game.

(Yes, I am that petty)

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Well, I guess those who know Blode best are most qualified to judge how he'd play... Still don't like the bandwagon at all.

And infinity, I was pointing out that you were chastising others for voting in favor of speculating about characters... or whatever it was you wanted to discuss. I didn't mean that you literally would rather find out a character than lynch a scum, of course.

[infinitywpi]

Since you admitted that I'll meet you half way.

Scummy as in relation to everything else so far.

Really, day 2, nobody has much to go on. But you'll note, I think Blode is the stronger play.

My issue with Bear wasn't the Hammer Vote(though I could see why some find it suspicious). It was the way you came in after he had two votes on him.

I just look for possible connections is all.

Even if you two are connected, doesn't necessarily mean you are scum. Could be part of a Bat mason group for all I know.

But I can't learn more unless I ask, and sometimes that entails me acting like an arsehole.

The only problem with acting like an arsehole is that, while it can get answers, it also seriously cheeses people off. That's the problem with the approach; even the innocent will start to second-guess themselves if pushed hard enough. That's why there's rules and limits on police interrogations and why, in a nutshell, torture doesn't work... but that's turning this into a political forum.

Look back at the timeline I posted, and note again... how many people have mentioned it might be an accident? How many people have spoken up for bear instead of against him, despite having the times on those posts staring them in the face? He didn't have any allies there trying to save him with this very obvious information... hell, even I didn't point it out until I was asked point-blank what my thoughts on bear were. That makes me think he's either indy or town. Any makes me think about those who're suspicious of bear but don't say a word about cappy.

We do agree on one thing tho: Blode needs to start talking in some way, shape, or form. Even if it's just to say, "Look, the mod told me not to talk about it."

[James Casey]

In infinity's defence (and I'm glad you guys are backing off) he may have just been a bit like me, and been going along seeing Vote: B... 'cos they all would look a lot alike unless you were really paying attention...

...or infinity just got worked up about the possibility of another flash lynch (which is more likely, as he's not carless enough to make the above mistake, I think).

[infinitywpi]

...or infinity just got worked up about the possibility of another flash lynch (which is more likely, as he's not carless enough to make the above mistake, I think).

Hey, I have a car, thank you very much.

... a mini-van...

[BIGJOSH]

I don't like these new players like Blode and TP who won't come on and defend themselves. This isn't EWB we move fast and if you don't respond it is seen as an admission of guilt.

Please give us something to work with guys...

[infinitywpi]

I don't like these new players like Blode and TP who won't come on and defend themselves. This isn't EWB we move fast and if you don't respond it is seen as an admission of guilt.

Please give us something to work with guys...

Maybe they're seeing what happens when you try to defend yourself and decide they don't want to put up with it?

[BIGJOSH]

Maybe they're seeing what happens when you try to defend yourself and decide they don't want to put up with it?

That's not how you play this game...we've all had to defend ourselves and been blasted for a good and even sometimes true defense...it's the nature of the game. If you don't like it then don't play.

[BlueStar]

Change vote: no vote

Don't really see why the pressure is off infinity but we got time during this phase. Need to read up but don't have the time. Will be back in some hours, I hope.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

I don't like these new players like Blode and TP who won't come on and defend themselves. This isn't EWB we move fast and if you don't respond it is seen as an admission of guilt.

Please give us something to work with guys...

Yeah, with 48 people, this could end up getting positively painful.

[Prophet]

I can understand the shadow of doubt being cast on Blode, and would like to hear why things have gone down the way they have, but something else interests me. It could be a funny coincidence, but when the TP thing started to snowball, Machine stood to his defense. Now at the dawning of a new day, he was the first to point the finger at Blode. It's probably me just seeing more than there is, but I thought I'd mention it.

Vote: Blode

I do think something needs to be said, and if a hammer looms, I can always change my vote to give him a chance to defend himself.

[BIGJOSH]

What's the vote count at...we don't want to rush this.

Change Vote: No Vote

Just in case...

[James Casey]

I can understand the shadow of doubt being cast on Blode, and would like to hear why things have gone down the way they have, but something else interests me. It could be a funny coincidence, but when the TP thing started to snowball, Machine stood to his defense. Now at the dawning of a new day, he was the first to point the finger at Blode. It's probably me just seeing more than there is, but I thought I'd mention it.

Vote: Blode

I do think something needs to be said, and if a hammer looms, I can always change my vote to give him a chance to defend himself.

I noticed that - but it's not unexpected: Blode did more than anyone to damage a guy machine was protecting, so I guess it's only reasonable machine would want vengeance :p

Either that or he thinks Blode's scum... :D

[machinesxe]

I don't like these new players like Blode and TP who won't come on and defend themselves. This isn't EWB we move fast and if you don't respond it is seen as an admission of guilt.

Please give us something to work with guys...

I agree with this. I also understand that we need to give people time to respond. I did notice that blode is listed as not being on since yesterday afternoon at 2:47PM. I don't know how accuarte that is but we will see. I say if is doesn't show up and back himself up we close this down tomorrow morning. We don't need people blowing us off and just ignoring what needs to be done so we can move forward. If by not responding they hope to have the direction put else where I think we need to make an example.

[Midnightnick]

Change Vote: No Vote

I would be changing it over to Blode, but. I'm not going to pile more votes on him until we hear some sort of defense.

[Imarevenant]

What's the vote count at...we don't want to rush this.

Change Vote: No Vote

Just in case...

Quick, unofficial count:





It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (8) > Midnightnick, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Blode (10) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet.
Bear (1) > I effin rule

[machinesxe]

I can understand the shadow of doubt being cast on Blode, and would like to hear why things have gone down the way they have, but something else interests me. It could be a funny coincidence, but when the TP thing started to snowball, Machine stood to his defense. Now at the dawning of a new day, he was the first to point the finger at Blode. It's probably me just seeing more than there is, but I thought I'd mention it.

Vote: Blode

I do think something needs to be said, and if a hammer looms, I can always change my vote to give him a chance to defend himself.

The reason I pointed the finger is because...

1. He was the first person I voted for yesterday.

2. He also pushed this "message" and now after reading it was determinded he would not tell everyone what it said, but he could give us something.

3. I called him on this yesterday and said with him being so sure of his scum calling that if he was wrong(since he was 100% positive he should be willing to help us in not wasting anytime and even vote for himself)

4. He was 100% correct about TB from this "message" well if when he 100% and turn out to be absoultly wrong why would you want to keep him around. I mean that right there doesn't show me a person I want on my side.

4a. I would just as well lynch him my on my very own right now since he is of no use to the town since even with all this evidence he still turned out to be wrong.


Here is the thing. I would like answers and am completly willing to withdraw my vote if reason enought is given.

[Imarevenant]

Quick, unofficial count:





It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

infinitywpi (8) > Midnightnick, cyberkitten01, Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey.
Blode (10) > machinesxe, Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet.
Bear (1) > I effin rule

Change Vote: No Vote

I would be changing it over to Blode, but. I'm not going to pile more votes on him until we hear some sort of defense.

Minus midnights now, of course, lol.

[machinesxe]

I noticed that - but it's not unexpected: Blode did more than anyone to damage a guy machine was protecting, so I guess it's only reasonable machine would want vengeance :p

Either that or he thinks Blode's scum... :D
I think the chance of him being scum is there, am I 100% no. Can I guarnette that he isn't scum, isn't townie or Indie aligned? No. But I can tell you right now we have as much reason if not more to go after him now then we did yesterday when Tobie got the votes moving in his direction.

[The Shape]

I think it's stupid to vote for bear for being the hammer, when it was a matter of seconds between him and cappyboy's votes, and only two minutes between their votes and vote #23. Even DJ himself missed vote #23; jumping on bear for missing it is just plain wrong.

It's not just a matter of being the hammer though. It's the fact that he voted then at all. The day phase was only half way done and the deadline TP set for himself was something like half an hour gone, and people started jumping on it. With 25 to lynch, in those circumstances, "that makes 23" is reasonin that needs looking into regardless of honesty.

I don't like these new players like Blode and TP who won't come on and defend themselves. This isn't EWB we move fast and if you don't respond it is seen as an admission of guilt.

Please give us something to work with guys...

It's not like he's been gone long, we're still early in the day and there's time to look at other options. To categories them as "these new players" is unfair I feel when you're doing so in a purely negative manner.

I can understand the shadow of doubt being cast on Blode, and would like to hear why things have gone down the way they have, but something else interests me. It could be a funny coincidence, but when the TP thing started to snowball, Machine stood to his defense. Now at the dawning of a new day, he was the first to point the finger at Blode. It's probably me just seeing more than there is, but I thought I'd mention it..

It's just how machines works lol. Given the prior day it's obviously going to happen...not a coincidence, just machines' opinions...he said all he knew was that TP wasn't Batman.

I agree with this. I also understand that we need to give people time to respond. I did notice that blode is listed as not being on since yesterday afternoon at 2:47PM. I don't know how accuarte that is but we will see. I say if is doesn't show up and back himself up we close this down tomorrow morning. We don't need people blowing us off and just ignoring what needs to be done so we can move forward. If by not responding they hope to have the direction put else where I think we need to make an example.

Honestly "making an example" of people when there's better options available ain't exactly wise. He hasn't been online elsewhere since the start of this day phase and I doubt he'd just blank the internet for the sake of this game...if he does show up but not post then alarm bells should ring.

2. He also pushed this "message" and now after reading it was determinded he would not tell everyone what it said, but he could give us something.

It's likely he heeded the advice of some players and possibly the mods and decided not to reveal anything at all. As for the 100% stuff, it's just his way of trying to push things forward.

[Wallbanger]

It's likely he heeded the advice of some players and possibly the mods and decided not to reveal anything at all. As for the 100% stuff, it's just his way of trying to push things forward.

That's why it's dangerous to guaran-damn-tee anything unless you are absotively, posilutely sure it's so. If you're confident, say so, but saying 100% tells me that's the result you wanted--but I don't know WHY you wanted that result.

[machinesxe]

Honestly "making an example" of people when there's better options available ain't exactly wise. He hasn't been online elsewhere since the start of this day phase and I doubt he'd just blank the internet for the sake of this game...if he does show up but not post then alarm bells should ring.
I am sorry I was kind of rambling things around in there but what you said is what I was going for but walked away for work related issues and lost train of thought before posting.



It's likely he heeded the advice of some players and possibly the mods and decided not to reveal anything at all. As for the 100% stuff, it's just his way of trying to push things forward.
Well if that is one mans way to "push things forward" then just "trust me" and add the pressure. LMAO

[cappyboy]

Wasn't it Cappyboy that got busted in Barebones for trying to Hammer vote?

For you peeps new to the game, the Hammer vote thing has caught scum in the past, so it isn't something people are just making up.

Well, not necessarily just that. There was my attempt to hammer having overlooked a call for caution. There was my lack of knowledge of site mechanics that led to me looking defensive. And there was a matter of PM'ing that got misunderstood because I panicked while trying to explain it. It was totally unrelated to the game at hand but got interpreted as relevant because I couldn't keep my cool under the pressure.

[Midnightnick]

Well, not necessarily just that. There was my attempt to hammer having overlooked a call for caution. There was my lack of knowledge of site mechanics that led to me looking defensive. And there was a matter of PM'ing that got misunderstood because I panicked while trying to explain it. It was totally unrelated to the game at hand but got interpreted as relevant because I couldn't keep my cool under the pressure.

And thus was born.

The Cappyboy Mistake.

[infinitywpi]

It's not just a matter of being the hammer though. It's the fact that he voted then at all. The day phase was only half way done and the deadline TP set for himself was something like half an hour gone, and people started jumping on it. With 25 to lynch, in those circumstances, "that makes 23" is reasonin that needs looking into regardless of honesty.

Three people voted within the span of 62-120 seconds. Why're you only interested in one of them?

[The Shape]

Three people voted within the span of 62-120 seconds. Why're you only interested in one of them?

My focus on bear stems from the whole nzane exchange and subsequent death that was highlighted earlier on. Plus he's been on since the pressure mounted once again and did nothing to alleviate suspicion. Though I might have overlooked something else of note, will check the part after the "deadline." Is this why you've been mentioning cappy's name?

[lprock]

Aight, I'm free for an hour - lemme read up on the last 30 pages and I'll join in on the discussion w/you guys.

[The Shape]

It is now day phase one. You have until 9:00 PM EST Tuesday, Sept 23rd, 2am GMT Wednesday the 24th.

With 49 players remaining, it is 25 to lynch.

TobiasParker > 20 (blackphoenix, Destiny, Arrows, Mr T Jobs To Me, Glotnot, James Casey, BlueStar, Moe Hunter, Lostrelms, nZane, The Rock 13, sprinklefurball, foolinc, Midnightnick, Antithesis, infinitywpi, Blode, lprock, Gruntmark, Tha Black Phenom)
Blode > 3 (TobiasParker, machinesxe, cappyboy)
ford > 1 (UFC-KING)
foolinc > 1 (Wallbanger)
Glotnot > 1 (i effin rule)

Let me know if there are any mistakes.

I may someday... However, Freegreen Heights is clearly the the most popular of my suggested themes.

Now I'm caught up, this should be easy:

Vote: TobiasParker

Commercial time! While I agree that too much info can be leaked early on, it couldn't hurt to debate mechanics, i.e. possibility of non-Batman DC characters who did stints in Gotham being in a huge game of 47(?), for the remainder of the day phase. Don't take that as avoiding the lynch at hand, because I will gladly be the hammer.

I'm back and caught up...where's this "evidence" that TP had promised?

It is when Undertaker is involved.... which excludes Monday Night Bore. :p



Another ten or so minutes until 11pm EST isn't it?

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/TheUndertakersGraveyard/Smileys/2498.gif

I'll give him until 11:30-ish. I'm not staying up all night waiting around for him to say something. :p

I gave him time...

Vote: Tobias Parker

It is now Post-11.

Tobias has not appeared.

Kill the scum.

agreed

Vote: TobiasParker

It is past 11.

Also the answer was a combo of Wrestling, MNF, and I am guessing a large number (me included) Heroes.

Now watching Raw off the DVR.

It is now day phase one. You have until 9:00 PM EST Tuesday, Sept 23rd, 2am GMT Wednesday the 24th.

With 49 players remaining, it is 25 to lynch.

TobiasParker > 22 (blackphoenix, Destiny, Arrows, Mr T Jobs To Me, Glotnot, James Casey, BlueStar, Moe Hunter, Lostrelms, nZane, The Rock 13, sprinklefurball, foolinc, Midnightnick, Antithesis, infinitywpi, Blode, lprock, Gruntmark, Tha Black Phenom, mjdgoldeneye, BIGJOSH)
Blode > 3 (TobiasParker, machinesxe, cappyboy)
ford > 1 (UFC-KING)
foolinc > 1 (Wallbanger)
Glotnot > 1 (i effin rule)

Let me know if there are any mistakes.

It is now day phase one. You have until 9:00 PM EST Tuesday, Sept 23rd, 2am GMT Wednesday the 24th.

With 49 players remaining, it is 25 to lynch.

TobiasParker > 23 (blackphoenix, Destiny, Arrows, Mr T Jobs To Me, Glotnot, James Casey, BlueStar, Moe Hunter, Lostrelms, nZane, The Rock 13, sprinklefurball, foolinc, Midnightnick, Antithesis, infinitywpi, Blode, lprock, Gruntmark, Tha Black Phenom, mjdgoldeneye, BIGJOSH, masterded)
Blode > 3 (TobiasParker, machinesxe, cappyboy)
ford > 1 (UFC-KING)
foolinc > 1 (Wallbanger)
Glotnot > 1 (i effin rule)

Let me know if there are any mistakes.

You know very good question. And you know, as much as I want to know something about Blode to alleviate the scum vibe he's got going, this Tobias issue is getting out of hand. We've measured the vote flow to try and let him pull up this phony evidence even though it was likely to be a smokescreen anyway. And yet he still doesn't have the common decency to show up and try mush talking us. How much scummier a play can you get? I'm in. Let's do this thing.

Change Vote: Tobias Parker

Make it 23.

Vote: TobiasParker

Err... HAMMA TIME

Lynch Has Been Achieved!


WRITE UP SHORTLY!

Everything of note from the home straight. Note take gently ushering things along ;)

[The Shape]

*Taker

[infinitywpi]

My focus on bear stems from the whole nzane exchange and subsequent death that was highlighted earlier on. Plus he's been on since the pressure mounted once again and did nothing to alleviate suspicion. Though I might have overlooked something else of note, will check the part after the "deadline." Is this why you've been mentioning cappy's name?

Which 'deadline' are you refering to?

I'm mentioning cappy because, if bear had posted a half-minute earlier, cappy would've been the hammer, yet nobody's asking him about his vote. All the same questions and situations would apply, yet none have been asked.

I will admit tho, bear not saying much since he's been back on is worrying... I think if Blone had responeded by now, we'd be asking bear why he's being quiet.

[Midnightnick]

Rereading the posts, masterded could be seen as suspicious as well, but Bear was pointed out solely for his exchange with nZane during the night.

[The Shape]

Which 'deadline' are you refering to?

The one TP set himself.

[The Shape]

Rereading the posts, masterded could be seen as suspicious as well, but Bear was pointed out solely for his exchange with nZane during the night.

Anything to say about your own contribution? :o

[Midnightnick]

Anything to say about your own contribution? :o

I voted way before the hammer. Plus.

Risk = Reward. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Tobias didn't do himself any favors whilst alive.

[The Shape]

There's a difference between risk = reward and saying "kill the scum" because he was 8 minutes late :D

[Midnightnick]

There's a difference between risk = reward and saying "kill the scum" because he was 8 minutes late :D

:rolleyes:

Point taken. I was 87% sure he was scum at the time.

But hey, I rather seem scummy all game and help the town win, then be oh so squeaky clean and then have the town turn on me for being "Too Town".

[cappyboy]

I'm mentioning cappy because, if bear had posted a half-minute earlier, cappy would've been the hammer, yet nobody's asking him about his vote. All the same questions and situations would apply, yet none have been asked.

I will admit tho, bear not saying much since he's been back on is worrying... I think if Blone had responeded by now, we'd be asking bear why he's being quiet.

And you know what? He has a fair point in mentioning me. When you're typing in the window to post, you have no idea what others are doing at the same time. Masterded's vote, mine and Bear's could have come down in any order. leaving one of the three of us in the hot seat. And when I'm playing Mafia it's not unusual for me to spend really long stretches in the posting window before hitting Submit Reply. This is a game where you really have to parse your words sometimes to avoid dropping unintended clues. Plus there's the matter of Editing being against the rules. So you have to double and triple check what you've written for context and spelling issues while in the posting moment because you can't fix them later.

So I don't blame Infinity for mentioning me at all. I may be Gotham as the day is long and there may be other issues with Bear than just this one. But I will say that from where I sit, I feel like I make a pretty good object lesson as to how Bear happening to be the hammer isn't necessarily the biggest issue in the world.

[The Shape]

But hey, I rather seem scummy all game and help the town win, then be oh so squeaky clean and then have the town turn on me for being "Too Town".

So would I, but bad experiences with Namor and Chewie have scarred me :(

[lprock]

So would I, but bad experiences with Namor and Chewie have scarred me :(

Vote: The Shape :o

[Midnightnick]

So would I, but bad experiences with Namor and Chewie have scarred me :(

Well.

Things looked bad for you Shape. You stole from me. :rolleyes: I apologize sincerely for it, and I hope my bad cuts it.

[The Shape]

Honestly my curiosity got the better of me lol...I'd love to say I was trying to protect the gem, and that did kind of cross my mind to help me justify it, but I just wanted to see what would happen rather than doing something more...productive xD

[The Shape]

Vote: The Shape :o

You read all 30 pages then? :p

[Midnightnick]

Honestly my curiosity got the better of me lol...I'd love to say I was trying to protect the gem, and that did kind of cross my mind to help me justify it, but I just wanted to see what would happen rather than doing something more...productive xD

All you did was steal my double vote for a day I recall.

But that's in the past Shape ol' buddy ol' pal. :o

[The Shape]

I see glot's name at the bottom of the thread...if there's anyone who's thoughts on blode I want to hear, it's his xD

All you did was steal my double vote for a day I recall.

Such a letdown :D

[lprock]

You read all 30 pages then? :p

No, I got bored and decided to vote for you to pass the time. I'm watching King of the Hill. :D

[Blode]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

infinitywpi randomly got off the hook by voting for me, and DAMMIT I HATE RANDOMNESS!

Vote: infinitywpi

[lprock]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

infinitywpi randomly got off the hook by voting for me, and DAMMIT I HATE RANDOMNESS!

Vote: infinitywpi

Oh yeah, YOU hate randomness. :o

[machinesxe]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

infinitywpi randomly got off the hook by voting for me, and DAMMIT I HATE RANDOMNESS!

Vote: infinitywpi
Since no one that investigated you is going to say they did so to give away their role this early, answer me this. Can you tell me what they would have found out?

[lprock]

Oh, and Change Vote: infinitywpi

Shape should seriously be lynched next though.

[machinesxe]

Lmao

[machinesxe]

BTW

for now I am removing my vote on Blode to give us some space from lynching him. I would like to stay on him and sqeeze him for some more info before he is off the hook.

CHANGE VOTE:NONE

[Midnightnick]

Oh, and Change Vote: infinitywpi

Shape should seriously be lynched next though.

And the reasoning for that is?

[lprock]

And the reasoning for that is?

Cause he's RAAAAAAAAACIST!

[Midnightnick]

Cause he's RAAAAAAAAACIST!

Wait.

Shape or Infinity?

I was asking why switching the vote to him.

[lprock]

Wait.

Shape or Infinity?

I was asking why switching the vote to him.

Oh, well, Shape for the comment - and infinity cause its the cool thing to do at this time.

[infinitywpi]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

infinitywpi randomly got off the hook by voting for me, and DAMMIT I HATE RANDOMNESS!

Vote: infinitywpi


Well, first, thanks for telling us that. Took you long enough, but you came through.

Second... actually, I didn't get off the hoook so much as pointed out there's a stupid reason for the hook to be there. And I just recently changed my vote from Antithesis to No Vote, so it hasn't been on you for a while now, and had nothing to do with people backing off of me.

Thirdly... how do you explain the 'sender' of this alleged 'PM' turning up town?

[Blode]

I'm guessing they found out that I was Gotham Aligned.

[Midnightnick]

I'm guessing they found out that I was Gotham Aligned.

Or our investigator hasn't posted yet. That's a possibility.

[lprock]

I'm guessing they found out that I was Gotham Aligned.

ARE YOU THE BATMAN?

[machinesxe]

ARE YOU THE BATMAN?

From here down is a joke.

Yes. He is Batman, now we don't have to waste a lynch and the mafia can kill him tonight to save us the trouble.

Now back to your regularly crazy nevermakes sense Machinesxe programing....

[Glotnot]

Plus Green Arrow doesn't kill people for climbing through windows.

I know Mods have to bend things sometimes but seriously, that wasn't Green Arrow... that was a villain/assassin of some sort.

So what about Deadman/Best Character Ever?

No, I'm not sharing the identity of the Best Character Ever. ZTR knows. :p

You read all 30 pages then? :p

Everyone knows ZTR doesn't read.

And the reasoning for that is?

In joke. You're not in.

I see glot's name at the bottom of the thread...if there's anyone who's thoughts on blode I want to hear, it's his xD


I don't think there's enough to lynch Blode yet. He's usually more aggressive as Scum, but remember... The last time this happened in Neo, he was seriously gung-ho for my lynch.

[lprock]

I try to read, it's just so hard. :(

[The Shape]

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

lol man...did he talk about night specifically? I'm thinking maybe he thought the day phase was some kinda free for all, he musta been completely new (and ignored the rules...and more impoortantly ignored what everyone else was doing xD

Since no one that investigated you is going to say they did so to give away their role this early, answer me this.

Honestly I'm unsure about his claim...blode how do you know that was you? As there's more women in the game and nothing character specific in that passage.

Also bear in mind that although if someone investigated him they'd be unlikely to out themselves, that doesn't mean they'd be silent altogether.

[BIGJOSH]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

infinitywpi randomly got off the hook by voting for me, and DAMMIT I HATE RANDOMNESS!

Vote: infinitywpi

This doesn't make sense. You say the PM was asking who was to be eliminated but DJ said he's pretty sure that the PM was intended for you...huh.

Maybe TP had no idea what he was talking about...maybe you are lying.

Still in a game that has so many women characters how do you know that you were targeted by an investigator? It could have been any woman in the game, how do you know it was you? Or are you merely trying to deflect attention off of yourself and make people think that you must be town since you were "investigated" but no one has stepped up to say that you are scum.

[Imarevenant]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

infinitywpi randomly got off the hook by voting for me, and DAMMIT I HATE RANDOMNESS!

Vote: infinitywpi

Something about all this just doesn't seem right. Even if TP was a part of a mason group, his character would logically be grouped with Oracle; and she wouldn't "eliminate" anyone. And anyone in contact with Oracle, wouldn't "eliminate" anyone either.

[cappyboy]

Pressure makes blode cry tears of sadness.

Poor baby. My heart bleeds.

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

Color me confused. The more I try to see into this PM business, the muddier the water gets.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

Likely story. What do you think this is? Smurfs Mafia? I agree with BIGJOSH here. There are so many potential female roles here I don't know I could I could separate that out and say with any certainty, "Ooh that's me" or "skip it irrelevant to me." strictly based on gender references. Maybe it's residual paranoia left over from the last game. But I'm more inclined to believe BIGJOSH's deflection theory here than this passage clearly being you getting investigated.

I'm guessing they found out that I was Gotham Aligned.

Again, likely story. Oh and dude, what's with your typeface all of a sudden? It's back to normal. Did you decide to drop the font games because they got you tied a little too closely to being scum?

[i effin rule]

Again, likely story. Oh and dude, what's with your typeface all of a sudden? It's back to normal. Did you decide to drop the font games because they got you tied a little too closely to being scum?

He was asked to by Wallbanger Day 1 if I remember correctly...


Anywho, anyone awesome with statistics? As in the class, not just statistics in general.

[machinesxe]

Just so everyone is aware I am leaving and wont be around until 9:30ish and am keeping myself on a no vote until then. If when I get back nothing has changed and I still feel like I do right now then I will place me vote where it has been.

[BIGJOSH]

I don't feel comfortable lynching Blode right now but I also don't totally believe him...I need more info from him...

PRESSURE!

Vote: Blode

[James Casey]

And you know what? He has a fair point in mentioning me. When you're typing in the window to post, you have no idea what others are doing at the same time. Masterded's vote, mine and Bear's could have come down in any order. leaving one of the three of us in the hot seat. And when I'm playing Mafia it's not unusual for me to spend really long stretches in the posting window before hitting Submit Reply. This is a game where you really have to parse your words sometimes to avoid dropping unintended clues. Plus there's the matter of Editing being against the rules. So you have to double and triple check what you've written for context and spelling issues while in the posting moment because you can't fix them later.


Amen to that.

And yeah, that pretty much is my contribution. Having joiend midway through the last game, I seem to have forgotten how to play the start of a game...

*Goes off to look for tells*

[Imarevenant]

He was asked to by Wallbanger Day 1 if I remember correctly...


Anywho, anyone awesome with statistics? As in the class, not just statistics in general.

::raises hand::

I'm rusty as hell though, got into a job, where I only have to do basic stats; which is a shame because I did enjoy my stats classes.

[cyberkitten01]

Change Vote: No Vote

Bah, I have no idea! Infinity made some pretty good observations

I think Blode is more the way to go with the pressure, as cappyboy could easily have been dropping hammer too, although I don't like the way Bear has been playing

[i effin rule]

::raises hand::

I'm rusty as hell though, got into a job, where I only have to do basic stats; which is a shame because I did enjoy my stats classes.

I've got a take home test for Modern Business Statistics, so I'm trying my damnest to get a 100%. lol my statistics tell me that if I get a 100% on this test and average a 60% on the other 3 tests, I'll still have a 70% ;)


Long story short, if you're interested in lending a hand, mind if I ask some questions at some juncture?

[The Shape]

Just so everyone is aware I am leaving and wont be around until 9:30ish and am keeping myself on a no vote until then. If when I get back nothing has changed and I still feel like I do right now then I will place me vote where it has been.

You're aware of what happens if you're 8 minutes late, right? :o

Oh and I've held off saying this until now because it ALWAYS seems to be the case, but in this game so far, bigjosh looks particularly scummy xD

[GruntMark]

He was asked to by Wallbanger Day 1 if I remember correctly...


Anywho, anyone awesome with statistics? As in the class, not just statistics in general.

The introest of intro stats?

Buy like...a TI-83. It does almost everything. :D

[GruntMark]

On subject...Blode's play seems more scummy to me than Infinity's. Im thinking he either set Tobias up on a hunch (and was wrong) or just plane set him up.

The whole PM situation just muddies it. Follow the damn rules!

[i effin rule]

The introest of intro stats?

Buy like...a TI-83. It does almost everything. :D

I've gota TI-89 Titanium. The math parts aren't a problem for me (at least I think). It's easy enough to follow formulas and what not. I'm more concerned with terminology and things of that nature. For example:


"In constructing a frequency distribution, as the number of classes are decreased, the class width

a. decreases
b. remains the same
c. increases
d. can increase or decrease depending on the data values"



My current answer is c, but I'm debating whether it could be d.


And I'm not trying to derail the thread, so I'll stop posting these questions here.

[i effin rule]

I also can't quite figure out how to do...well...anything on my TI-89 outside of graphs and basic stuff.

[Blode]

This doesn't make sense. You say the PM was asking who was to be eliminated but DJ said he's pretty sure that the PM was intended for you...huh.

Maybe TP had no idea what he was talking about...maybe you are lying.

Still in a game that has so many women characters how do you know that you were targeted by an investigator? It could have been any woman in the game, how do you know it was you? Or are you merely trying to deflect attention off of yourself and make people think that you must be town since you were "investigated" but no one has stepped up to say that you are scum.


Yes. That's why I was like wtf immediately and forwarded a copy to dj. TP sent me a PM 3 minutes afterwards telling me to disregard, which I didn't send to dj because that's what led me to believe it was an accident, which is why I posted about it, because I believed that TP was allowed to post. And I don't know for sure that I was investigated, but given the circumstances, and the fact that my character is female, I thought it was likely.

[GruntMark]

I've gota TI-89 Titanium. The math parts aren't a problem for me (at least I think). It's easy enough to follow formulas and what not. I'm more concerned with terminology and things of that nature.

Hah, you sound like me.

Which, unfortunatly, means I'll be of little use. I know how to get the math answers out, but definitions? What is this, English? :p

Okay...back to mafia.

[infinitywpi]

This is one of those games where having a female character isn't going to be a huge tell one way or the other.

For the good guys: Oracle, Batgirl, Spoiler, Doc Tomkins, Huntress, Catwoman, Montoya
For the bad guys: Ivy, Harley, Talia, the latest Ventriloquist, Catwoman, more I've missed
Neutral: Various cops, reporters, girlfriends, molls, hookers, etc, etc, etc, etc.

[GruntMark]

My character is female.

So now...we are up to two! (at least)

[Arrows]

I'm not coming to Blode's aid here because he very well could be scum. However, I thought he was specifically asked NOT to tell what was in the PM? Are people forgetting that or just ignoring it as a basis for making him look suspicious?

I asked him not to, and I'll admit to that. However, I still want to consider the possibility that there could still be something else going on here. I don't know, this just seems kind of...sticky?

Oh...and I know you're not coming to Blode's aid. I know.:D;)

What would there be to tell? As late as last game people were called out based on PMing (lprock in fact, while he was "at the store" :D). It happens, and blode especially wouldn't just sit back having got something, which he clearly did.

i_e_r, I think we need to consider the possibility that blode is scum and he thought tobias was as well.

Last line there, is my line of thinking at the moment.

[GruntMark]

This is one of those games where having a female character isn't going to be a huge tell one way or the other.

For the good guys: Oracle, Batgirl, Spoiler, Doc Tomkins, Huntress, Catwoman, Montoya
For the bad guys: Ivy, Harley, Talia, the latest Ventriloquist, Catwoman, more I've missed
Neutral: Various cops, reporters, girlfriends, molls, hookers, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Also...as a huge Birds of Prey fan...

A ton of the DC super ladies have worked with Oracle in or around Gotham. And several of them have fought female antagonists (Shiva, Chesire).

Frankly...Im marking out if Zinda is in the game.

[Undertaker666]

Ok, i'm caught up. A few things about Blode that got my spider-sense tingling:

The PM was discussing which target the intended recipient wanted to eliminate.

Interesting that you found the pm so clear cut and yet DJ said neither he or Crychon could understand what the message was about.

And I was apparently investigated last night, first thing.

"I'll have my eye on you woman!"

Yeah, that's me being investigated.

As has already been said, there's no way you can know for sure that is you. You're obviously claiming that you're a female character but then there were numerous other references to women in the write-up too. We can only believe that's definitely you if an investigator comes forward, and with us seemingly having already lost an investigator (because of you, no less) it would be a bad move for them to speak up.

I'd be surprised if Blode wasn't scum and so far nothing he's said has alleviated my fears.

(and no, i'm not role-claiming Spiderman :p)

[The Shape]

Interesting that you found the pm so clear cut and yet DJ said neither he or Crychon could understand what the message was about.

Well if they see a guy they know is town talking about eliminating people, they'll obviously be confused. He should have been modkilled and they said they thought as much, but once all had been established the lynch was pretty much a done deal.

[Arrows]

Ok, i'm caught up. A few things about Blode that got my spider-sense tingling:



Interesting that you found the pm so clear cut and yet DJ said neither he or Crychon could understand what the message was about.



As has already been said, there's no way you can know for sure that is you. You're obviously claiming that you're a female character but then there were numerous other references to women in the write-up too. We can only believe that's definitely you if an investigator comes forward, and with us seemingly having already lost an investigator (because of you, no less) it would be a bad move for them to speak up.

I'd be surprised if Blode wasn't scum and so far nothing he's said has alleviated my fears.

(and no, i'm not role-claiming Spiderman :p)

Didn't the way the character said he'd have his eye on her, or whatever, make it seem like they MIGHT JUST be someone a good guy would have to keep their eyes on?

Doesn't that kinda seem, I don't know...BAD, to you?

[cappyboy]

Didn't the way the character said he'd have his eye on her, or whatever, make it seem like they MIGHT JUST be someone a good guy would have to keep their eyes on?

Doesn't that kinda seem, I don't know...BAD, to you?

Agreed. Or at least the character thought he had reason to believe the woman being addressed was bad. Kinda reminded me of how Detective Bullock would address Batman in B:TAS except for the gender issue.

[Undertaker666]

Well if they see a guy they know is town talking about eliminating people, they'll obviously be confused. He should have been modkilled and they said they thought as much, but once all had been established the lynch was pretty much a done deal.

True.

Didn't the way the character said he'd have his eye on her, or whatever, make it seem like they MIGHT JUST be someone a good guy would have to keep their eyes on?

Doesn't that kinda seem, I don't know...BAD, to you?

Yep. Whilst I don't know as many Batman characters as the rest of you, I was wondering if it's possible there's a role out there that's the equivalent of the Naive Cop or Insane Cop roles? If that's the case, as bloodthirsty as it might sound, lynching Blode would then help them figure out if they were getting incorrect results. (this is assuming it was Blode that was investigated)

Another thing that popped into my head was that Blode could possibly be the head of a scum group, so he'd welcome an investigation because he'd know he'd turn up innocent. The rest of you would have to help me with who could potentially be the leader of a group and be female though. The only one I could think of was Poison Ivy, could she be a leader?

[Imarevenant]

Didn't the way the character said he'd have his eye on her, or whatever, make it seem like they MIGHT JUST be someone a good guy would have to keep their eyes on?

Doesn't that kinda seem, I don't know...BAD, to you?

Yeah, it does read that way, but also says the person wasn't guilty of any wrong doing.

Could it be someone who would be kind of in the gray area. Someone that hasn't done anything too horrible, but still warrants monitoring.

Like Selina Kyle or someone who has broken the law, but in many cases also does good.

[Blode]

Oh ffs.

You guys want to get to the sex or would you like some more foreplay?

[Undertaker666]

Oh ffs.

You guys want to get to the sex or would you like some more foreplay?

That kind of attitude isn't going to help you much.

[Imarevenant]

Ok, i'm caught up. A few things about Blode that got my spider-sense tingling:

(and no, i'm not role-claiming Spiderman :p)


We know it's not Spiderman you are claiming btw.



You are clearly claiming this:

http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Eric_Needham_(New_Earth)


Scum! :p

[cappyboy]

True.

The rest of you would have to help me with who could potentially be the leader of a group and be female though. The only one I could think of was Poison Ivy, could she be a leader?

I don't see why not. I don't remember too many villians in any of the Batverses I've seen who couldn't have henchmen. I don't know if Poison Ivy would fit that in Mafia terms though. For a woman who would clearly be a leader in Mafia terms and be scum, I'd have to go back to the 60's series and Ma Barker. But that seems unlikely. She'd have to have her sons with her for that leadership role to work. And while I could see obscure TV villians like her, Archer and Bookworm in the pool based on sheer size, I'm skeptical about related henchman characters like Printer's Devil or the Barker sons.

[Crychon]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (10) > Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH
infinitywpi (7) > Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Imarevenant]

True.



Yep. Whilst I don't know as many Batman characters as the rest of you, I was wondering if it's possible there's a role out there that's the equivalent of the Naive Cop or Insane Cop roles? If that's the case, as bloodthirsty as it might sound, lynching Blode would then help them figure out if they were getting incorrect results. (this is assuming it was Blode that was investigated)

Another thing that popped into my head was that Blode could possibly be the head of a scum group, so he'd welcome an investigation because he'd know he'd turn up innocent. The rest of you would have to help me with who could potentially be the leader of a group and be female though. The only one I could think of was Poison Ivy, could she be a leader?

Can't really think of any, maybe, Ivy is leading the Gotham Girls lol

You could have Talia al Ghul leading the League of Assassins, but, why do that when you can just have Ra's al Ghul instead.

[Undertaker666]

We know it's not Spiderman you are claiming btw.

You are clearly claiming this:

http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Eric_Needham_(New_Earth)

Scum! :p

lol, I should be more careful with my jokes because obviously they can incriminate me without me even knowing! :eek:

[UFC-KING]

Vote : Blode

Seems to have worked with TobiasParker last round,

[Undertaker666]

Vote : Blode

Seems to have worked with TobiasParker last round,

Care to explain how it "worked" when we lynched a townie last time?

[Imarevenant]

Vote : Blode

Seems to have worked with TobiasParker last round,

Care to explain how it "worked" when we lynched a townie last time?

lol

I think he meant that last bit to go into his scum forum or something :confused:

[Crychon]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (11) > Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING
infinitywpi (7) > Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Midnightnick]

Vote: UFC-King


He's played without a rhyme or a reason thus far. During the entire Tobias lynch last day phase, he randomly changed his vote to Ford, with no explaination, then when it was addressed. He went back to Tobias.

[Undertaker666]

Vote: UFC-King


He's played without a rhyme or a reason thus far. During the entire Tobias lynch last day phase, he randomly changed his vote to Ford, with no explaination, then when it was addressed. He went back to Tobias.

Could be that he's new, could be that he's scum. I still think Blode is the right way to go at the moment though. Even though we've been talking about Blode his last post gave us nothing when he could've divulged some more info about his character, ability etc.

[infinitywpi]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (11) > Arrows, blackphoenix, infinitywpi, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING
infinitywpi (7) > Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

I will say this again:

I, long ago, changed my vote to Antithesis (which was ignored) and most recently to No Vote, which has also been ignored.

[Midnightnick]

Could be that he's new, could be that he's scum. I still think Blode is the right way to go at the moment though. Even though we've been talking about Blode his last post gave us nothing when he could've divulged some more info about his character, ability etc.

Point taken.

Change Vote: Blode

But, I'm watching King. It doesn't seem right about him.

[blackphoenix]

I've got a take home test for Modern Business Statistics, so I'm trying my damnest to get a 100%. lol my statistics tell me that if I get a 100% on this test and average a 60% on the other 3 tests, I'll still have a 70% ;)


Long story short, if you're interested in lending a hand, mind if I ask some questions at some juncture?

I don't psychology statistics... I could maybe help but I have to go to uni soon... when is it due?

[Crychon]

I will say this again:

I, long ago, changed my vote to Antithesis (which was ignored) and most recently to No Vote, which has also been ignored.

Missed... Not ignored, calm down son. I just copied the last vote count DJ posted and went from there.

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (11) > Arrows, blackphoenix, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING, Midnightnick
infinitywpi (7) > Comradebot, Glotnot, trypio, Mr T Jobs To Me, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[i effin rule]

I don't psychology statistics... I could maybe help but I have to go to uni soon... when is it due?

10 AM Thursday morning EST

[blackphoenix]

Also...as a huge Birds of Prey fan...

A ton of the DC super ladies have worked with Oracle in or around Gotham. And several of them have fought female antagonists (Shiva, Chesire).

Frankly...Im marking out if Zinda is in the game.

Black Canary..

Tho I think the most mega powerful possible female town mafia character would be Zatanna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatanna

[mike b]

Hey srry i missed yesterday.
So who has been sent packing and whos left.
Hope i'm still in:(

What you don't know about me is good.
What i do know about you is even better.

[Arrows]

Hey srry i missed yesterday.
So who has been sent packing and whos left.
Hope i'm still in:(

What you don't know about me is good.
What i do know about you is even better.

Read and find out.

[Wallbanger]

Read and find out.

It's only ~1000 posts, you'll be caught up in no time. :p

[Arrows]

It's only ~1000 posts, you'll be caught up in no time. :p

Doesn't take much.

[UFC-KING]

Point taken.

Change Vote: Blode

But, I'm watching King. It doesn't seem right about him.

Yeah Yeah Yeah keep watching me !

[Glotnot]

Also...as a huge Birds of Prey fan...

A ton of the DC super ladies have worked with Oracle in or around Gotham. And several of them have fought female antagonists (Shiva, Chesire).

Frankly...Im marking out if Zinda is in the game.

If we're assuming that there's a second mason-ish team in the game tied to the Batfamily...Teen Titans. Associated with Batgirl, Nightwing, and Robin, tbh.

I <3 them. Yes.

Didn't the way the character said he'd have his eye on her, or whatever, make it seem like they MIGHT JUST be someone a good guy would have to keep their eyes on?

Doesn't that kinda seem, I don't know...BAD, to you?

Agreed. Or at least the character thought he had reason to believe the woman being addressed was bad. Kinda reminded me of how Detective Bullock would address Batman in B:TAS except for the gender issue.

Err...

He found her, and they talked. He realised that this person was not guilty of any wrong doing. Excusing himself, with a finale warning "I have my eye on you woman!"

Whoever it is, didn't do anything. Not saying it was Blode, just that it was not a bad guy. Apparently.

But to be honest, I'm more suspicious of UFC then Blode, for that last little bit he posted. I just don't see a reason to not believe Blode.

Vote: UFC-King

[Blode]

You are Silver St. Cloud, Gotham Aligned Wealthy Socialite

I plan on watching TV tonight and being back around 11, but I don't want to get lynchraped when I show up a minute late, so let's get any questioning over now.

I'd rather not reveal my role, but if lynch is imminent, I will.

[sprinklefurball]

Black Canary..

Tho I think the most mega powerful possible female town mafia character would be Zatanna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatanna

Isn't Zatanna a good guy?

[sprinklefurball]

I voted way before the hammer. Plus.

Risk = Reward. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Tobias didn't do himself any favors whilst alive.

Lynch him, he's the joker!

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

No, I got bored and decided to vote for you to pass the time. I'm watching King of the Hill. :D

I plan on watching TV tonight and being back around 11, but I don't want to get lynchraped when I show up a minute late, so let's get any questioning over now.

I'd rather not reveal my role, but if lynch is imminent, I will.

And on that note (barring someone else claiming the role, or one of the experts calling B.S.)...

Change Vote: UFC-King

This guy's kind of playing the way I was when I didn't have a vote in R & B mafia... I don't know why he wants the suspicion, but he definitely wants it.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

That earlier quote was from a multi that I decided not to post... Was going to tell him that we don't usually bold joke votes for the purposes of the mod's sanity- I think he might have been serious though.

[Blode]

Oh, trust me, the last thing he cares about is mods sanity.

And meh, let's go with the flow.

Vote: UFC-KING

[Bear]

I did post like 10 pages ago and it was completely ignored. I'll quote it.

[Bear]

The reason behind Blode explaining his intentions would put us closer to deciding if he's scum or not. It's a way of finding more about the situation without ruining the fun or compromising the game.

It's going to keep coming back to me putting down the hammer vote(unintentionally), so let me take the blame for getting a little excited. The page before I posted, I said I didn't mind being the hammer vote in my zeal to be useful. It took me up to that point to catch up, or I would have joined in sooner. Everyone was being goofy and I'm new so I was trying to fit in. If there are still concerns, I can try and prove myself in another way.

I did respond to wavering beliefs. I didn't mean to leave without saying I was leaving, but no one probably would have cared.

[sprinklefurball]

I'm still not sure where to place my vote yet...

[Crychon]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (11) > Arrows, blackphoenix, cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING, Midnightnick
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
UFC-King (3) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[blackphoenix]

Isn't Zatanna a good guy?

Black Canary..

Tho I think the most mega powerful possible female town mafia character would be Zatanna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatanna

yo..

[blackphoenix]

that Blode role claim isn't that convincing to me but i'm not sure what to do...

sigh

Change vote: No vote

Off to school. bbl

[Arrows]

Change Vote: No vote

Have no reason not to believe what he's posted for now.

[sprinklefurball]

yo..

lol...

I must've missed the word town somehow.

[d_w_w]

Vote : Blode

Seems to have worked with TobiasParker last round,

Uh... what?

:confused:

Vote: UFC_KING

I really don't get some of your posts, and I think this one is weird enough that you need to clarify yourself.

[sprinklefurball]

Ok a post like that deserves my vote...
Vote: UFC_KING

[Crychon]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (9) > cappyboy, Tha Black Phenom, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING, Midnightnick
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
UFC-King (5) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Yeah, I always wanted to know what that multiple vote-shifting in the first day phase was about.

Change Vote: UFC-KING

[Lostrelms]

Holy Self incrimination!


Vote: UFC-King


(That was NOT a claim or hint in any manor...)

[Moe Hunter]

Maybe they're seeing what happens when you try to defend yourself and decide they don't want to put up with it?
You know very well that this is how the game is played. If you can't stand the hotseat, it isn't the game for you.

That's not how you play this game...we've all had to defend ourselves and been blasted for a good and even sometimes true defense...it's the nature of the game. If you don't like it then don't play.
Indeed. Why, just last game I had Yoda kill me after I had a long run of successfully protecting townies :P It's just how things go sometimes.


I've been back and forth in my mind about this vote, and currently I have to agree that I'd like to hear from UFC King. At least Blode gave us something, King has just been random.

Vote: UFC-King


Oh yeah, not to be a broken record, but Lostrelms... You're a car salesman? What can you tell me about a 2000 Nissan Maxima Ti? I've been test driving one, and while I like it in general, it just seems a bit difficult to drive, I really have to be careful on the pedals, you know?

[Glotnot]

Holy Self incrimination!


Vote: UFC-King


(That was NOT a claim or hint in any manor...)

Is misspelling 'manner' a hint? :O

[Crychon]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (8) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING, Midnightnick
UFC-King (8) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[blackphoenix]

Off to school

Change vote: UFC-King

preeeeessure.

[bak42]

vote: UFC-KING

There's just something strange going on.

[Midnightnick]

Change Vote: UFC-King

I knew I was onto something.

[Arrows]

Change Vote: UFC-King

I knew I was onto something.

Hmmm?

[machinesxe]

As for Blode until something comes out that says otherwise I have to deal with him being listed as town for now.

Well Ufc you messed up brother so here comes the pressure.

VOTE:UFC-KING

[Midnightnick]

Hmmm?

The saying of it (The Lynch) working with Tobias (who was town).

Now the pressure's being placed on him, like I was trying to do before.

[Moe Hunter]

By the way, is the image being used in writeups from the upcoming Mortal Kombat vs DCU game? Seems familiar...

[cappyboy]

Is misspelling 'manner' a hint? :O

No. The "Holy self incrimination" line. That was something Burt Ward did as Robin all the time in the 60's series.

[cappyboy]

Well, actually I think both could be potential hints if we chose to go against his request and interpret them that way.

But for now, I have a Puzzle Pirate event to tend to. Don't know if I'll be back here tonight or not. But we have a little over 48 hours to this phase. So for now my vote stays with Blode. The UFC-King makes sense and I'd like to hear from him too. But for now I don't really have the time to spend on the kind of consideration I feel a vote change requires. If UFC-King doesn't satisfy us before I get that needed time? I don't know if he really wants to know where my vote could end up then.

[gonvick]

The reason behind Blode explaining his intentions would put us closer to deciding if he's scum or not. It's a way of finding more about the situation without ruining the fun or compromising the game.

It's going to keep coming back to me putting down the hammer vote(unintentionally), so let me take the blame for getting a little excited. The page before I posted, I said I didn't mind being the hammer vote in my zeal to be useful. It took me up to that point to catch up, or I would have joined in sooner. Everyone was being goofy and I'm new so I was trying to fit in. If there are still concerns, I can try and prove myself in another way.

For me, it isn't so much about you being the hammer vote. It was after the lynch was shown to be bad you saying that you really wanted to use the whole day for discussion. It struck me as you perhaps wanting to be on that lynch list but then trying to distance yourself from the bad lynch so maybe less attention would be brought your way in the aftermath.


Competing scum groups. With 49 people, if Blode's in scum group A and thinks TP is in scum group B and maybe he can get some brownie points for helping to lynch TP...

That's kind of how that lynch appeared to me. Like perhaps it was rushed by scum who wanted to make sure they were in on what they thought was a differently aligned scum.


The saying of it (The Lynch) working with Tobias (who was town).

Now the pressure's being placed on him, like I was trying to do before.

That was a very odd statement, and I'd like to hear an explanation about it. He's half way to a lynch, so I think I'll hold off on adding my vote for now.

[Arrows]

The saying of it (The Lynch) working with Tobias (who was town).

Now the pressure's being placed on him, like I was trying to do before.

Ah. Thought you were referring to something more.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (7) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING.
UFC-King (12) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter, blackphoenix, bak42, Midnightnick, machinesxe.
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Midnightnick]

Ah. Thought you were referring to something more.

I wish I knew more. I'm so out of my element in this game.

[ya_its_me]

Wow, I honestly doubt what UFC said was a rookie mistakebecause you'd have to be pretty dumb to not remember TP's alignment and then vote for blode saying he's aligned with him when Tobias was Gotham-aligned. Caught ya buddy.

Vote: UFC-King

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (7) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Undertaker666, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING.
UFC-King (13) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter, blackphoenix, bak42, Midnightnick, machinesxe, ya its me.
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule


Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Undertaker666]

I'm willing to go along with this one to see what he's got to say for himself.

Change vote: UFC-King

But for the record, I still think Blode is scummy.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (6) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING.
UFC-King (14) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter, blackphoenix, bak42, Midnightnick, machinesxe, ya its me, Undertaker666.
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule


Let me know if you see a mistake.

[Antithesis]

change vote: none

Got the character claim, which to me, in themed games, can be as good as a roleclaim.

The UFC thing, I am willing to vote if he ever decides to explain himself and if that explanation is any good or not.

But, the longer it takes the more apt I am to think an explanation is being cooked up for him.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (5) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING.
UFC-King (14) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter, blackphoenix, bak42, Midnightnick, machinesxe, ya its me, Undertaker666.
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Friday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (5) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING.
UFC-King (14) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter, blackphoenix, bak42, Midnightnick, machinesxe, ya its me, Undertaker666.
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule

Let me know if you see a mistake.

NOTE: I wrote the time late, right after midnight Wednsday morning, and I just want to make sure everyone understands that this is not a 72hour dayphase, it ends Tomorrow (thursday) late at night, Midnight (which reads Friday on my computer). Sorry for any confusion, although Crychon keeps telling me I got it right and I am the only one confused.

[infinitywpi]

Change vote: UFC-KING

Pressure... oh, pressure drop.... pressure got de drop on you....

UFC got some 'splainin' to do.

[ya_its_me]

I'd say we're good on pressure votes now.

[Undertaker666]

change vote: none

Got the character claim, which to me, in themed games, can be as good as a roleclaim.

The UFC thing, I am willing to vote if he ever decides to explain himself and if that explanation is any good or not.

But, the longer it takes the more apt I am to think an explanation is being cooked up for him.

I was thinking that Blode has been coached. The pressure was on him and he said this:

Oh ffs.

You guys want to get to the sex or would you like some more foreplay?

Then an hour later he said this after we'd just started talking about UFC-King:

You are Silver St. Cloud, Gotham Aligned Wealthy Socialite

I plan on watching TV tonight and being back around 11, but I don't want to get lynchraped when I show up a minute late, so let's get any questioning over now.

I'd rather not reveal my role, but if lynch is imminent, I will.

One minute he's not very forthcoming and the next he's offering up his role title.

I've been looking up his claimed character and am I right in thinking she'd have no special skills at all? From what i've read she's just Batman's love interest, and certainly not someone that an investigator would need to keep their eye on.

[Bear]

For me, it isn't so much about you being the hammer vote. It was after the lynch was shown to be bad you saying that you really wanted to use the whole day for discussion. It struck me as you perhaps wanting to be on that lynch list but then trying to distance yourself from the bad lynch so maybe less attention would be brought your way in the aftermath.

I realized I got over-excited and tried to preempt some disapprovals, but it just made it worse. I'm actually pretty disappointed at the whole sequence of events that involve me. With nZane being killed during th nightphase, it just added to the problems.

[Wallbanger]

I've been looking up his claimed character and am I right in thinking she'd have no special skills at all? From what i've read she's just Batman's love interest, and certainly not someone that an investigator would need to keep their eye on.

I have a feeling the "I've got my eye on you" line is meant to indicate 'cop/detective' dialogue, so it may indicate that the investigator in that sequence is a uniformed police officer like Montoya or perhaps even Commissioner Gordon.

One thing I do find interesting about Miss St. Cloud is this...

Silver is unique for several reasons, one of which is her discovery of Batman's identity. Her relationship with Bruce cools down as he repeatedly disappears to become the Batman. But using her own observational skills, Silver begins to put the clues together to recognize her lover in the costume of her hero. As Batman is battling the villain Deadshot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadshot), Silver calls out to Bruce to confirm her suspicions. When Batman looks at her, Silver recognizes his chin as that of Bruce Wayne's.

For a character that would have no apparent abilities, this is an interesting thing to know...not sure what, if anything, DJ would do with this, so for now it's more speculation than anything.

[Imarevenant]

I was thinking that Blode has been coached. The pressure was on him and he said this:



Then an hour later he said this after we'd just started talking about UFC-King:



One minute he's not very forthcoming and the next he's offering up his role title.

I've been looking up his claimed character and am I right in thinking she'd have no special skills at all? From what i've read she's just Batman's love interest, and certainly not someone that an investigator would need to keep their eye on.

Could definitely see that scenario, can also see someone doing something like, looking at the DC Database's Gotham page and picking a name off a list.

See here: http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Gotham_City

Scroll down to where it says others and see who is on the bottom of the list.

Only ability I can even think for her, would be to know who Batman is, but then wouldn't Alfred, Robin, etc etc be better to be in a group with Bruce?

[BIGJOSH]

I still don't trust Blode and I'm not familiar enough with DC to know if this character is important and would be included in a game like this...of course with the size of this game who knows who may be in.

Now UFC-King seems to have made a mistake and it's his turn to offer up an explanation...

Change Vote: UFC-King

[Undertaker666]

I have a feeling the "I've got my eye on you" line is meant to indicate 'cop/detective' dialogue, so it may indicate that the investigator in that sequence is a uniformed police officer like Montoya or perhaps even Commissioner Gordon.

One thing I do find interesting about Miss St. Cloud is this...

For a character that would have no apparent abilities, this is an interesting thing to know...not sure what, if anything, DJ would do with this, so for now it's more speculation than anything.

It's speculation that Blode really is who he says he is. :p

[Wallbanger]

It's speculation that Blode really is who he says he is. :p


There is that as well. Definitely obscure enough to be a reasonably safe false claim. However, there's likely going to be some tertiary characters mucking about in this size of game, so it's going to be hard, especially in the early going, to credibly challenge claims.

[djthefunkchris]

It is now DAYPHASE 2. You have untill Thursday, 12midnight "Eastern" to Lynch. With 46 players, it is 24 to lynch.

Blode (6) > cappyboy, Tha Rock 13, Antithesis, Prophet, BIGJOSH, UFC-KING.
UFC-King (16) > Glotnot, Mr T Jobs To Me, Blode, d_w_w, sprinklefurball, Tha Black Phenom, Lostrelms, Moe Hunter, blackphoenix, bak42, Midnightnick, machinesxe, ya its me, Undertaker666, infinitywpi, BIGJOSH.
infinitywpi (5) > Comradebot, trypio, The Aussie, Minister Whitey, lprock
Bear (1) > i effin rule


Let me know if you see a mistake.

NOTE: I wrote the time late, right after midnight Wednsday morning, and I just want to make sure everyone understands that this is not a 72hour dayphase, it ends Tomorrow (thursday) late at night, Midnight (which reads Friday on my computer). Sorry for any confusion, although Crychon keeps telling me I got it right and I am the only one confused.

[Prophet]

And the list was made public early on. It wouldn't be difficult to pluck an obscure name from it to cover your tracks.

[Antithesis]

I was thinking that Blode has been coached. The pressure was on him and he said this:



Then an hour later he said this after we'd just started talking about UFC-King:



One minute he's not very forthcoming and the next he's offering up his role title.

I've been looking up his claimed character and am I right in thinking she'd have no special skills at all? From what i've read she's just Batman's love interest, and certainly not someone that an investigator would need to keep their eye on.



True, reading the character bio on Wiki it doesn't make sense for someone to say "I've got my eye on you" if the speaker is town aligned type.

If its a villain speaking, maybe it could fit some possible scenario in the game. I dunno.

Also I agree, if Silver isn't in a "lovers" sort of pairing I have no clue what sort of role she might have otherwise.

[Undertaker666]

Could definitely see that scenario, can also see someone doing something like, looking at the DC Database's Gotham page and picking a name off a list.

See here: http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Gotham_City

Scroll down to where it says others and see who is on the bottom of the list.

Vicky Vale's at the bottom of the list but it's still interesting to see Blode's claimed character on that list.

Only ability I can even think for her, would be to know who Batman is, but then wouldn't Alfred, Robin, etc etc be better to be in a group with Bruce?

I'd be very disappointed in Alfred wasn't in the game. I've no idea what his ability would be but he should still be included somewhere. :cool:

[gonvick]

I was thinking that Blode has been coached. The pressure was on him and he said this:



Then an hour later he said this after we'd just started talking about UFC-King:



One minute he's not very forthcoming and the next he's offering up his role title.

I've been looking up his claimed character and am I right in thinking she'd have no special skills at all? From what i've read she's just Batman's love interest, and certainly not someone that an investigator would need to keep their eye on.

That did seem to be a remarkable change in cooperating. And with his claimed character apparently being just a random love interest for Bruce Wayne (at least that's all I've found about her so far, if there's something remarkable about her perhaps someone can shed some light on that), I don't find myself trusting him much more at this point.

I realized I got over-excited and tried to preempt some disapprovals, but it just made it worse. I'm actually pretty disappointed at the whole sequence of events that involve me. With nZane being killed during th nightphase, it just added to the problems.

I'm not that concerned about nZane's death as it relates to suspicion of you. I think it's less likely scum would kill someone, assuming they don't think it's a power role, who's only noteworthy activity was arguing with one of there own. It would be fairly useless as a way to prevent that person from continuing to pressure since there would be obvious attention due to the kill. Unless they were much more confident that they could defend against the suspicion from the kill than whatever pressure the dead player would have brought. But I don't think that would apply here.

It looked to me that a few players were very eager to be included in that lynch, expecting that he was scum. When we found out he wasn't, you were the one that seemed most sensitive to the appearence of eagerly lynching a townie. That doesn't necessarily make you scum, but makes you a fair point to start that line of questioning.

[BIGJOSH]

I can't get over this nagging feeling in my gut that Blode is scum...

The whole PM thing still doesn't make a lick of sense. Blode says that it was obvious he was talking about a "target" but DJ and Crychon said the PM seemed strange and they believed it very well could have been intended for Blode.

This whole thing really stinks.

[machinesxe]

This whole thing really stinks.
Like a city sewer system, we all know what is on the walls of a sewer, right? Scum...

[Midnightnick]

Like a city sewer system, we all know what is on the walls of a sewer, right? Scum...

And the Batmobile.

Well. Only in Batman Returns. :cool:

[BIGJOSH]

Post #1000

just wanted to get that...LOL