Lakeside's Grand Finale (Mafia)

[Antithesis]

Awwww, Prophet put a vote on me! OMG, I feel SOOOO popular!


Anywho, last night I targetted... Prophet!

Only I didn't, because apparently our friendly(?) neighbourhood mystic switched me with someone. Where did I end up?

Why, I ended up ATTEMPTING to talk to The Archer, but guess what?

Oh irony of ironies... a big guy stopped me before I could reach him and told me no one is allowed to speak with Archer.

So, I didn't learn too much... except its now 100% certain that we have a bouncer type, and he isn't part of Arrows's role.

Though now I SO want to know who originally targetted Archer and why, and what this might've done to Prophet who is now voting for me (pointlessly, I might add. All the details of my role are out there if you'll take the time to put the pieces of it together. If Prophet didn't then its possible the scum haven't and I'd like to leave it like that.)

Grunt switched you? Or Grunt switched prophet?

[Prophet]

Grunt switched you? Or Grunt switched prophet?

If he switched me, I couldn't tell you. I don't do anything, so the best that I did was stop staring at the east wall, and look towards the northern one.

However, if it was me that was switched, would that mean the big guy intended to protect me? Or that I was swapped with Archer?

*Collapses and twitches*

[Comradebot]

Grunt switched you? Or Grunt switched prophet?

Grunt switched ME... I think.

Guess I didn't look at it that way, maybe Grunt switched Prophet instead. My bad.

So... Grunt... what DID you do?

[Antithesis]

If he switched me, I couldn't tell you. I don't do anything, so the best that I did was stop staring at the east wall, and look towards the northern one.

However, if it was me that was switched, would that mean the big guy intended to protect me? Or that I was swapped with Archer?

*Collapses and twitches*

I've seen several people say they don't do anything... are there really vanilla townies in this game?

Were there vanilla townies in past lakeside games?

(Vanilla townies have no abilities, all they can do is vote)

[GruntMark]

I switched Comradebot.

The Shape was the other target.

[GruntMark]

I've seen several people say they don't do anything... are there really vanilla townies in this game?

Were there vanilla townies in past lakeside games?

(Vanilla townies have no abilities, all they can do is vote)

I doubt it.

Astil doesnt seem to be the type to include so many...

[petrija]

Grunt switched you? Or Grunt switched prophet?

I thought... Grunt gets to choose two people and switch them. Thus, wouldn't he have switched them both... with each other?

[Antithesis]

Grunt switched ME... I think.

Guess I didn't look at it that way, maybe Grunt switched Prophet instead. My bad.

So... Grunt... what DID you do?

Does your PM say something like you were someplace you didn't think you would be?

Mine did when I was switched with TBP

[Comradebot]

I switched Comradebot.

The Shape was the other target.

Hey, I was right! You tricky wizard you!

So, Shape... what did you want with The Archer?

Prophet, what happened to you last night?

[Antithesis]

I switched Comradebot.

The Shape was the other target.

So SHape had intended to target Archer....

[Prophet]

Hey, I was right! You tricky wizard you!

So, Shape... what did you want with The Archer?

Prophet, what happened to you last night?

Last night, I got the poem. Which was out of place, since I never get a message at night ...

Oh Shape? Are you our cryptic clue dropper?

[Antithesis]

I doubt it.

Astil doesnt seem to be the type to include so many...

Astil strikes me as a creative type.. I doubt there'd be any purely vanilla townies in the game, I don't think there has ever been one in any GDS mafia game.

[petrija]

Last night, I got the poem. Which was out of place, since I never get a message at night ...

Oh Shape? Are you our cryptic clue dropper?

It's kinda cool that your username is "Prophet" and you got the message:P

[Antithesis]

Last night, I got the poem. Which was out of place, since I never get a message at night ...

Oh Shape? Are you our cryptic clue dropper?

Well you didn't end up dead or silenced...

[petrija]

Astil strikes me as a creative type.. I doubt there'd be any purely vanilla townies in the game, I don't think there has ever been one in any GDS mafia game.

Appears there are quite a few. Considering there have never been any in previous games...
Is it possible they have abilities that have to be activated... night 5? ..The theory that night 5 isnt a bad thing was brought up..

Also, could it have anything to do with them doing things they don't know they're doing?

[Prophet]

Astil strikes me as a creative type.. I doubt there'd be any purely vanilla townies in the game, I don't think there has ever been one in any GDS mafia game.

With it being a dark game, though, that relies on discussion, having vanilla townies, who theorize out in the open, can be seen as an enhancement, right?

[Antithesis]

And we also learn that the burly guy is most likely town aligned...

which means MNN probably wasn't the scum leader.

[Prophet]

Well you didn't end up dead or silenced...

Which is honestly surprising to me. I figured with all my crazed theories, I'd have been offed already. lol

Change vote: No Vote

Still not convinced Comrade is true-blue, but given the help, I can't justify a vote for now.

[Bear]

I've seen several people say they don't do anything... are there really vanilla townies in this game?

Were there vanilla townies in past lakeside games?

(Vanilla townies have no abilities, all they can do is vote)

I'm not vanilla. There's a reason why I offered my services to you.

So SHape had intended to target Archer....

Perhaps we should forget that? Or something worse?

[Antithesis]

With it being a dark game, though, that relies on discussion, having vanilla townies, who theorize out in the open, can be seen as an enhancement, right?

Well, who knows what a mod ever intends.

Could be the vanillas are back ups to townie power roles.

[Antithesis]

I'm not vanilla. There's a reason why I offered my services to you.



Perhaps we should forget that? Or something worse?

I wasn't thinking of you.

When you made the offer you mentioned something in particular I took note of and haven't forgotten. :)

[Antithesis]

I dunno what you'd call the role.. a Muse? something like that, but little reason to consider him a suspect now.

[Antithesis]

Hey Archer, did you investigate me last night?

[gonvick]

I don't follow.
How do we know that someone WAS a forensic investigator?
And how come role tiltes weren't posted?
Did they just not have one?
Both of them?
Coincidence?

Either Wallbanger or Infinity were the Forensic Investigator. That's the role I had in the first Lakeside game(when the main faction was a cult:(), and I recongnize the effects of his death. That's the reason we don't get role titles for the dead, because the forensic invcestigator isn't around to identify the bodies.

At least that's how it worked before, and I see no reason to think it changed. And the Night 1 write up can be read to indicate that one of the dead were indeed the FI.

And Derek knows it's possession, because ... he's a witch! Witch!! (Mmmm, Monty Python. Awesome.)

Is there any reference to a possessor in the previous lakeside threads? I'm not discounting it, and it actually makes more sense than the subliminal theory that ... someone ... who wasn't me had ... stupid subliminal theory! ... but has it happened in this setting before?

Body possessing would be new, if that's what's going on. There was nothing like that in the past games.

I switched Comradebot.

The Shape was the other target.

That's very interesting. I wasn't sure if I got Shape's hint right or not. This makes me think I was wrong.

[petrija]

Could be the vanillas are back ups to townie power roles.

What's that mean?

[Antithesis]

What's that mean?

Townie protector dies, vanilla townie takes their place.

[petrija]

Townie protector dies, vanilla townie takes their place.

Hm.

If thats the idea, shouldn't we have a new forensic investigator?:P

[Antithesis]

Hm.

If thats the idea, shouldn't we have a new forensic investigator?:P

Maybe, maybe not. :)

Most likely scenario is that people are just lying about being powerless.

But there are reasons for town's people to lie for something like that just as easily as scum.

So I'm not making a big deal over it.

Yet.

[petrija]

Maybe, maybe not. :)

Most likely scenario is that people are just lying about being powerless.

But there are reasons for town's people to lie for something like that just as easily as scum.

So I'm not making a big deal over it.

Yet.

Yeah.
That.

[iMac]

Awwww, Prophet put a vote on me! OMG, I feel SOOOO popular!


Anywho, last night I targetted... Prophet!

Only I didn't, because apparently our friendly(?) neighbourhood mystic switched me with someone. Where did I end up?

Why, I ended up ATTEMPTING to talk to The Archer, but guess what?

Oh irony of ironies... a big guy stopped me before I could reach him and told me no one is allowed to speak with Archer.

So, I didn't learn too much... except its now 100% certain that we have a bouncer type, and he isn't part of Arrows's role.

Though now I SO want to know who originally targetted Archer and why, and what this might've done to Prophet who is now voting for me (pointlessly, I might add. All the details of my role are out there if you'll take the time to put the pieces of it together. If Prophet didn't then its possible the scum haven't and I'd like to leave it like that.)

Now that is interesting, as the same thing happened to me. I tried to target someone and was blocked by a friendly face.

So I also learned nothing from last night.

[Bear]

I think it's safe to say vanilla isn't a flavor in this sundae. Astil's a touch too creative, maybe for his own good. Most of his roles are powerful and sometimes have second powers. When I was Piccolo in his DBZ game, I had role identifier and a random kill.

[petrija]

Now that is interesting, as the same thing happened to me. I tried to target someone and was blocked by a friendly face.

So I also learned nothing from last night.

That's not the same thing, but it is interesting.

It implies that the other bodyguard ISN'T town.
Cause your guy was friendly.

[iMac]

Apologies. I should've said something similar happened. :o

[Bear]

That's not the same thing, but it is interesting.

It implies that the other bodyguard ISN'T town.
Cause your guy was friendly.

Unless it's two reoccuring roles. "Familiar" would fit like a glove if they're both from a previous game.

[Orange-kun]

Or maybe Rev is the sort that doesn't need money.

For the people who will ask, "why rev."

He did offer very early in day 2 and I figured maybe its best I don't announce my temporary employees in advance :D

Just finished. Whew!

I have a crackpot theory. That maybe a silence was due to one of NZane's inventions? Like maybe he gave it to someone still around, or managed to use it before he kicked the bucket? Well we can't really ask him now...

Also, I was thinking about the dream thing. How it keeps getting more effects. Maybe it strengthens as time goes on? Perhaps it'll end up seriously hurting the next person who gets them?

Also machine is pretty odd. And seems concerned about posting a lot.

Dunno, there is no one I really can say 'he's scum lol'. Just a lot of feelings and considering I'm a noob don't mean much.

I have to study for at least an hour. Exam Friday. I wish they would stop. :( I'll try to pop in and add more substantial things.

[Orange-kun]

What the... how'd that quote get in there? :/ Be back for realz.

[Comradebot]

Just finished. Whew!

I have a crackpot theory. That maybe a silence was due to one of NZane's inventions? Like maybe he gave it to someone still around, or managed to use it before he kicked the bucket? Well we can't really ask him now...

Also, I was thinking about the dream thing. How it keeps getting more effects. Maybe it strengthens as time goes on? Perhaps it'll end up seriously hurting the next person who gets them?

Also machine is pretty odd. And seems concerned about posting a lot.

Dunno, there is no one I really can say 'he's scum lol'. Just a lot of feelings and considering I'm a noob don't mean much.

I have to study for at least an hour. Exam Friday. I wish they would stop. :( I'll try to pop in and add more substantial things.



Interesting... Arrows can't post today, and machine is whoring it up?

Hmm....

[petrija]

Also, I was thinking about the dream thing. How it keeps getting more effects. Maybe it strengthens as time goes on? Perhaps it'll end up seriously hurting the next person who gets them?


Interesting.

Interesting... Arrows can't post today, and machine is whoring it up?

Hmm....

I don't think he'd even try.
Look at how far behind he is.

[Comradebot]

Interesting.



I don't think he'd even try.
Look at how far behind he is.

BUT...

What if they keep silencing Arrows?

Given a couple days worth of that level of talkage, he WILL catch up eventually. Quite the devious strategy, I must say. If that's what is happening.

[petrija]

What if they keep silencing Arrows?


Part of me hopes they do :p

[Comradebot]

Part of me hopes they do :p

Ouch. You gonna let your woman do you like that Arrows?

Are you?

ANSWER ME!!!!


Oh wait, YOU CAN'T!!! :p

[mistaken]

I've seen several people say they don't do anything... are there really vanilla townies in this game?

Were there vanilla townies in past lakeside games?

(Vanilla townies have no abilities, all they can do is vote)

I'm not a vanilla townie, I'm French Vanilla :)~


Hm.

If thats the idea, shouldn't we have a new forensic investigator?:P

who was the previous investigator?

[Prophet]

I have a crackpot theory. That maybe a silence was due to one of NZane's inventions? Like maybe he gave it to someone still around, or managed to use it before he kicked the bucket? Well we can't really ask him now...

That's an interesting thought. I hadn't even considered that. I think Gon got an invention, but I'm not positive on that. Maybe he could enlighten us on whether it's possible or not.

Also, I was thinking about the dream thing. How it keeps getting more effects. Maybe it strengthens as time goes on? Perhaps it'll end up seriously hurting the next person who gets them?


As for this, if Derek is right about it being possession, it makes sense. Someone possesses Arrows, goes out in search of someone, and finds that person isn't there. I think Arrows was on to something when he first realized this, especially after Golds experience. The violence, and yelling, and blood on his hands. If it is possession, whoever is doing it, is using the body as a weapon to kill people off, I think. Whatever happened night 2, where Arrows just ended up outside, disoriented, might explain the lack of a second kill.

Just a thought.

[cyberkitten01]

I am pretty sure that after the information that was recieved last night we should go with what Machine has suggested and lynch Cyberkitten due to here inability to assist in anything productive. Mahine is and has always been a great asset to any team that has been lucky to have him.

VOTE:CYBERKITTEN

Woah, hadn't noticed that part before. That's pretty harsh! Just because I can't investigate I wouldnt' say I was inept. At least I haven't been distracting the town

Who wants to put money on Cyber being the prostitute?

I know I know....Maybe to far but I had to after all my other posts. This is just a joke and hope kitten can forgive me.

I forgive you. I can probably earn more money on my back than in an office

And last but not least that you for voting but..... L-I-K-E I T-O-L-D F-U-C-K-I-N-G B-E-F-OR-E I W-I-L-L S-P-EA-K R-E-A-L S-L-O-W S-O Y-O-U U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D. Y-O-U S-H-OU-L-D V-O-T-E F-O-R C-Y-B-ER-K-I-T-T-E-N-0-1 B-E-C-A-U-S-E I-T I-S T-H-E R-I-G-H-T T-H-I-N-G T-O D-O.

Wow, that must have taken some time to type. I'm touched! :D

Yeah I have no idea where to vote :(

[petrija]

who was the previous investigator?

Have you not been paying attention for the last like...40 posts?

[Comradebot]

That's an interesting thought. I hadn't even considered that. I think Gon got an invention, but I'm not positive on that. Maybe he could enlighten us on whether it's possible or not.




As for this, if Derek is right about it being possession, it makes sense. Someone possesses Arrows, goes out in search of someone, and finds that person isn't there. I think Arrows was on to something when he first realized this, especially after Golds experience. The violence, and yelling, and blood on his hands. If it is possession, whoever is doing it, is using the body as a weapon to kill people off, I think. Whatever happened night 2, where Arrows just ended up outside, disoriented, might explain the lack of a second kill.

Just a thought.



What a magnificent power that would be... think about it, if one of those people killed someone while possessed, and someone happened to witness the event, who gets lynched?

Yup, the innocent possessed townie! Which will now become the defense of ANYONE caught killing, I'm sure.

[petrija]

I forgive you. I can probably earn more money on my back than in an office


LOL! I'm with you there.
I'm useless in an office.

[cyberkitten01]

If it is possession, whoever is doing it, is using the body as a weapon to kill people off, I think. Whatever happened night 2, where Arrows just ended up outside, disoriented, might explain the lack of a second kill.

Just a thought.

I like that idea. When he said he was outside somewhere and didn't know where, that could have been his intended target being bussed or he was roleblocked. Reminds me of Indigo Prophecy (Fahrenheit for us Brits) whereby the protagonist was possessed and murdered someone

[petrija]

It sure is mighty quiet around here, these days :p:D

[The Archer]

Okay, so apparently last night, I was just relaxing in Lakeside, resting on my laurels, when I became the Derek of night 3. I got a note. No idea from who, or from where, just know I found it at my feet.

"And so falls the minion,
A blow to the king,
Who waits for the The Night and relief it will bring.

Elsewhere they sit back,
Biding their time,
For chaos is caused by the simplest of crimes."

So our cryptic clue dropper has decided to cause me bouts of insanity now. Interesting!

My reading of it is two fold ... that MNN was a small fry in the grand scheme, meaning there's still a zombie king out there, and the night relief being reference to the 2 deaths.

And the second verse about the pack, quietly watching. The simplest of crimes line has me wondering, though. Is it lying? Or theft? I wouldn't call kidnapping a simple crime, so I think there might be something staring us in the face that we just haven't seen yet.

interesting.

I claimed in my first post. Hell it was THE first post. :cool:

Now Gertrude, if we can quit this gentle bickering and focus on things that matter, that'd be great. I have a few ideas but need to think them over, and before that I need sleep etc.

all ears there waldo.

thirst.

"apprentice"; "lord"?

and me getting this role is the mother (well mothers) of all coincidences. Like seriously, hahaha. Methinks I'll do what I was told I should have done if I was telling the truth about Creeper, or at least, attempt to xD

First thing's first, Slim Jim is scum. I can read him so well he doesn't even need to log in for me to tell.

But yeah, any ideas as to what we're up against? :o

like what kind of coincidence?

Since you mentioned the framer ... is it possible that Gold isn't an investigator, but actually said framer? He didn't actually get any info, just took a shot in the dark accusing you of being non-town to disrupt thought processes?

No idea. The thing that interested me the most was his silence once it was pointed out that he could be investigated.

He volunteered to be trackedm but once investigation was mentioned, he didn't say anything else.

I am not saying he's scum, but I am suspicious.

but then he hasn't gotten clear results in the last tooo nights has he?

Or any of the scum groups has a framer and tried framing Arrows on Night 1?

then that means that

Lets see Framer targets arrow's night one, because of busdriving it actually goes to MNN...

If thats true then MJ's investigations are either reversed (whatever investigator type that is) or he's lying.


As I sincerely doubt there are two framers in the game (though maybe there are... who knows)

midnight should have shown up non lakeside aligned. mj didnt investigate midnight i did. and by arrows admission my results on alignment are correct. now i am not saying that mjds are right if he actually gets them.

For that matter, as I know some will point out, I roleblock, and my character is female.

but Moe confirmed I pay people for protection (as I am waiting to hear from Rev on exactly how that is worded).

Some might say I could be the prostitute.

:eek:

Yes. He's claimed one of the roles from the previous games, which was a standard investigator. I don't recall any issues with the results from that game. The results from that game were all town, and everyone investigated ended up being town.

:cool:

I have no idea what happened last night... I don't think I was infected, but I can't explain anything, really...

I targeted blackphoenix but never made it. Last night was described as a "blur" to me.

Apparently there was violence and yelling, and I thought it was a dream until I saw bruises and scrapes on my hands...

I didn't get any change in alignment, but I have a bad feeling about last night!

I don't know if Derek or me or Anti or BP would be good choices for a lynch or what...

It may seem strange to come out and just say what happened, but I knew it wasn't in my best interest to make something up!


I considered that, especially with the theory that Arrows knew who was at his home last night, however, with the failed vote on him, I don't think Arrows was recruited. I think he's gone the way of Lost, which means he's gone.

I did have another thought, though. Did Arrows confirm he was immune to night kills?

he said he couldnt be killed at night.

It's possible, but I'm not entirely sure. There's so many theories going on in my head right now too. Everytime something pops up, I come up with a new theory.

I wonder if there's a busdriver at someone's disposal, but that the busdriver isn't who we think it is. I wonder if Grunt's mystic chanting isn't him switching people, so much as it's him sending out subliminal messages.

Maybe MNN really was a gunsmith then?

Another interesting thought I had. I know MNN was undead and all, but, and this is something someone like Anti could answer for me, as he's vastly more experienced than I am ... is it possible that MNN came up town because he was a townie, when he was alive? I mean he's a small-time zombie, maybe he was a small-time townie, before the zombie king gnawed on him?

No. He was just a liar.



agreed and proven.

If MNN was scum then he wasn't a Gunsmith.



if he was scum? he wasnt lakeside, he was undeead.

I believe you're switching people for what it'd worth. I might even go as far as to say you're not a infected either. I have an irk the MNN was town to start, but got flipped. He's a pretty smart guy, but he's an impact player and thinks compulsively. Gunsmith require more thought. But you know why I think you're safe? Midnight tried to implicate you before his death. For the same reason as above, he most likely wanted you out of the picture.


The thing about that is, if MNN was town at the start, then he would have been a gunsmith at the start. There's be no reason to fake claim, something other than what you started as, and stick to it until your death, if you started as a townie role. So if he was a gunsmith, he still shouldn't have recieved the results from night 1 that he claimed, since he was clearly bus driven. The only reason for him to lie about that is that he was scum trying to build a fake claim.

At least that's how I see it.

when would he have been flipped?

Evening all, just got through the long process of catching up. It's weird, I half expected to return home with a massive lynch being led against me and yet that hasn't appeared. I'm almost disappointed in you all. :p

But on a more serious note, I was trying to piece together a case but haven't been able to clearly assemble anything. So I'm just going to share the key thought with you. I beleive the "dreams" that Arrows and now MJD have experienced are cases of posession. Someone, almost certainly not on the side of Lakeside, seems to be posessing people and making them do things without them knowing about it.

The thing is... I can't account for what has been done or for who is doing it. I think the deaths so far have been accounted for in the updates and don't seem to point toward anyone being posessed in them. Similarly, I can't point to any group in particular for doing this... or even for what they would have been making them do.

I'll have to mull it over some more... but at least I won't have to wade through mountains of spam while I think now! (Sorry Arrows, I just can't resist taking shots at you when you can't reply! :p)

why would you expect that ? interested.

Awwww, Prophet put a vote on me! OMG, I feel SOOOO popular!


Anywho, last night I targetted... Prophet!

Only I didn't, because apparently our friendly(?) neighbourhood mystic switched me with someone. Where did I end up?

Why, I ended up ATTEMPTING to talk to The Archer, but guess what?

Oh irony of ironies... a big guy stopped me before I could reach him and told me no one is allowed to speak with Archer.

So, I didn't learn too much... except its now 100% certain that we have a bouncer type, and he isn't part of Arrows's role.

Though now I SO want to know who originally targetted Archer and why, and what this might've done to Prophet who is now voting for me (pointlessly, I might add. All the details of my role are out there if you'll take the time to put the pieces of it together. If Prophet didn't then its possible the scum haven't and I'd like to leave it like that.)

well i have no clue there. but whatever happened i got a reusult on my intended target.

If he switched me, I couldn't tell you. I don't do anything, so the best that I did was stop staring at the east wall, and look towards the northern one.

However, if it was me that was switched, would that mean the big guy intended to protect me? Or that I was swapped with Archer?

*Collapses and twitches*

I switched Comradebot.

The Shape was the other target.

Hey, I was right! You tricky wizard you!

So, Shape... what did you want with The Archer?

Prophet, what happened to you last night?

yeah shape what would you want with me?:rolleyes:

So SHape had intended to target Archer....

Last night, I got the poem. Which was out of place, since I never get a message at night ...

Oh Shape? Are you our cryptic clue dropper?

interesting

Which is honestly surprising to me. I figured with all my crazed theories, I'd have been offed already. lol

Change vote: No Vote

Still not convinced Comrade is true-blue, but given the help, I can't justify a vote for now.

Hey Archer, did you investigate me last night?

why would you ask that

Either Wallbanger or Infinity were the Forensic Investigator. That's the role I had in the first Lakeside game(when the main faction was a cult:(), and I recongnize the effects of his death. That's the reason we don't get role titles for the dead, because the forensic invcestigator isn't around to identify the bodies.

At least that's how it worked before, and I see no reason to think it changed. And the Night 1 write up can be read to indicate that one of the dead were indeed the FI.



Body possessing would be new, if that's what's going on. There was nothing like that in the past games.



That's very interesting. I wasn't sure if I got Shape's hint right or not. This makes me think I was wrong.


what did you think he was hinting. the only game i played i cant recall if shape was in it or not. and the last one is anly one i have read other than dott. wasnt shape joker in that one?

[cyberkitten01]

Yup, the innocent possessed townie! Which will now become the defense of ANYONE caught killing, I'm sure.

Damn that devious. Two kills Night One and two kills Night Three. Definitely think someone got roleblocked or protected on Night Two. If there was any info to point at who we'd have had it by now :confused:

LOL! I'm with you there.
I'm useless in an office.

I'm actually real good at my job and have a kickass salary. Still, the other would be more relevant to my interests, but how many people can say they enjoy their jobs anyway

[Comradebot]

So, Archer, who did you investigate last night?

[Prophet]

What a magnificent power that would be... think about it, if one of those people killed someone while possessed, and someone happened to witness the event, who gets lynched?

Yup, the innocent possessed townie! Which will now become the defense of ANYONE caught killing, I'm sure.

Hey, we'd know more if you weren't twiddling your hair and popping bubbles with your gum, while nZane was rambling on about quarks or whatever! :p (I kid, I kid!)

Seriously, though, that's my only mental setback with it. It does seem to fit, as you blocked MNN night two, and Arrows wandered aimlessly. But night 3, we ended up with 2 dead again, and Gold with scrapes and blood and dreamlike memories of violence.

How to stop the possessor, is beyond me, though.

[petrija]

I'm actually real good at my job and have a kickass salary. Still, the other would be more relevant to my interests, but how many people can say they enjoy their jobs anyway

I love my job.

[cyberkitten01]

if he was scum? he wasnt lakeside, he was undeead.

But did he start off that way is the question. Could it be he started the game as Übertowny risk=reward Occam's razor man, but then got recruited and tried pretending to be the same supertowny since it would be suspicious if he went quiet after the first night?

The poem suggested we didn't get the Zombie Lord, but then did MNN really know Aussie was undead and threw him under the bus? Or did the Zombie Lord take exception to him lynching his minion Day One?

Bah, all conjecture and helps us very little at this stage

[cyberkitten01]

I love my job.

Is it as the pilot of a giant pink mech warrior?

[The Archer]

So, Archer, who did you investigate last night?

well i held off waiting on mjd to see what he was going to say. but then was disappointed. lets say i am starting to wonder if he actually is an investigator. if he is either he gets different results or there are other things at play.

[petrija]

Is it as the pilot of a giant pink mech warrior?

Nah. That'd be cool too though.

I work with intellectually and physically disabled people.

[The Archer]

But did he start off that way is the question. Could it be he started the game as Übertowny risk=reward Occam's razor man, but then got recruited and tried pretending to be the same supertowny since it would be suspicious if he went quiet after the first night?

The poem suggested we didn't get the Zombie Lord, but then did MNN really know Aussie was undead and threw him under the bus? Or did the Zombie Lord take exception to him lynching his minion Day One?

Bah, all conjecture and helps us very little at this stage

not arguing, asking. the results on midnight were from night one. we hung him day 3. means that there would have had to flip night 2. with spotlight on?

[cyberkitten01]

Nah. That'd be cool too though.

I work with intellectually and physically disabled people.

Ah that's cool :) I work for a huge faceless corporation. With the current financial situation they're bummed that in the last quarter we only made a £20million profit instead of the £25mill the year before. Life's tough :rolleyes:

Worked as a dominatrix's sub for a week when I was jobless, that would be a more interesting career choice than scanning medical documents

[cyberkitten01]

not arguing, asking. the results on midnight were from night one. we hung him day 3. means that there would have had to flip night 2. with spotlight on?

Very true, definitely would have been the time to lay low as many eyes would have been on. Good point

[petrija]

Worked as a dominatrix's sub for a week when I was jobless, that would be a more interesting career choice than scanning medical documents

...
...
/nod

[petrija]

not arguing, asking. the results on midnight were from night one. we hung him day 3. means that there would have had to flip night 2. with spotlight on?

Very true, definitely would have been the time to lay low as many eyes would have been on. Good point

It's also a weird theory that he outted his partner on the first day.
So... is it really that far fetched?

[Antithesis]

well i held off waiting on mjd to see what he was going to say. but then was disappointed. lets say i am starting to wonder if he actually is an investigator. if he is either he gets different results or there are other things at play.

If you are hinting that you investigated me and got a townie result (because thats what I am)

it pretty much certified MJ as either a backwards investigator (which means Derek is scum) or that MJ was lying (and therefore MJ is scum).

I asked if you investigated me last night because youw asked me questions about my role, I assume like Arrows and MNN, you got other hints about the role in addition to alignment.

[cyberkitten01]

It's also a weird theory that he outted his partner on the first day.
So... is it really that far fetched?

Considering he was the one preaching about Occam's Razor, it could be it's exactly that simple. Scum groups can communicate outside the game normally. Could be Aussie was a lesser scum role and had some commitments and said "If you guys want to bus me to come up really towny, go ahead"

[The Archer]

It's also a weird theory that he outted his partner on the first day.
So... is it really that far fetched?

could have been something he had to do? no clue.

If you are hinting that you investigated me and got a townie result (because thats what I am)

it pretty much certified MJ as either a backwards investigator (which means Derek is scum) or that MJ was lying (and therefore MJ is scum).

I asked if you investigated me last night because youw asked me questions about my role, I assume like Arrows and MNN, you got other hints about the role in addition to alignment.

i said i trusted you for now. and i think i learned something more about my role.

of the two options on mjd, which one would you say you believe?

[gonvick]

That's an interesting thought. I hadn't even considered that. I think Gon got an invention, but I'm not positive on that. Maybe he could enlighten us on whether it's possible or not.

The invention i received is defensive. The best i can figure is that it keeps me safe.

So an invention wasn't responsible for silencing anyone.

But did he start off that way is the question. Could it be he started the game as Übertowny risk=reward Occam's razor man, but then got recruited and tried pretending to be the same supertowny since it would be suspicious if he went quiet after the first night?

If MNN was town for Night 1, he'd have no reason to lie about getting a result he shouldn't have. So if he really did get that result, that means Arrows lied about not having a night ability, and happened to also target iMac with it.

I think that's less likely than MNN being scum from the start.

[cyberkitten01]

If MNN was town for Night 1, he'd have no reason to lie about getting a result he shouldn't have. So if he really did get that result, that means Arrows lied about not having a night ability, and happened to also target iMac with it.

I think that's less likely than MNN being scum from the start.

I like your thinking

[Antithesis]

Also as toi the MNNN was scum thing.

prophet asked if there was a role that could change alignments at death, I pointed out that there was such a role in the SW 2 game (Cyberkitten had it, and used it to foil my near perfect lynch of BP, damn you girls sticking together!!!)

Anyway I just mentioned it as a possibility.

Now, you ahd said MNN came up town aligned but his role hints troubled you (plus MNN's lies about doing gun checks when he was bus driven then role blocked).

MNN died Undead aligned, but he appeared town aligned.

That could be a role function. Or that could be that a framer targeted him
(meant for Arrows) night 1

Its an important discussion (albeit unprovable)

Because if there is a framer, and he framed Arrows night one...
then the framer didn't frame me the same night, again, meaning MJ investigation results are either reversed (and Derek is scum)or MJ is lying.


Yes I know thats a lot of if's, andmaybe there are two framers or who knows what else going... but at some point you gotta go with Occam's Razor, which doesn't speak well for MJ.

i said i trusted you for now. and i think i learned something more about my role.

of the two options on mjd, which one would you say you believe?

I think MJ is scum.. for a couple of reasons.

1) he never explained why he targeted me night 1. Day 1 was all about MNN and AUssie and Grunt/Comrade vs Arrows.
Yet he targetted me.

Thats fine though but then
2) he refused to tell his second investigation result, despite the fact that everyone agreed that it needed to be done to help prove my claim that I am town. It got to the point I threatened to take a modkill for it and MJ relented...

After MNN told him to in the thread! (I noticed it, honest. :))

3) After MNN died and I started spouting theories I pointed out that Scum would claim an investigator if they had a mafia cop (investigator) in their group to find rival scum up for town lynches. The idea behind it is to make yourself look like a super townie.

Anyway I pointed out the only investigator that would work in that scenario would be MJ.

MJ then chimed in and said, if you don't believe me, track me.

To which I pointed out it would make more sense if someone just investigated him. Which he had no reply for.

4) As Revenant pointed out, MJ's been different this game. He doesn't seem as active or as argumentative this game. Past games, he'll argue about anything, even when he was scum. This game, he seems to defer to otehrs, seems hesitant to say anything concrete.

Thats in addition to the investiation deal.

Derek on the otehr hand.. well, he's Derek. I don't trust him, but its nothing as pronounced unlike MJ.

[Derek B]

I'm getting tired and will be at work for most of tomorrow so I'm heading to bed shortly and stating a few things just now while I'm awake enough to be coherent.

The first thing I have to say is that I'm worried about MJD in general. I remember in Rocky & Bullwinkle that I basically done all I could to paint Self as a crazy investigator who got random results. I twisted everything he done to make sure he was unreliable and I worry that something similar is happening to MJD. Afterall, what better defense is there than "we have no idea if that guy even gets the right result!".

At the same time though, the case is a tough one to prove or disprove due to the nature of what has been going on in this game so far and due to Anti's pleading of his alignment. While I won't accuse Anti of being scum, the fact that MJD was willing to out himself after the first night to point the finger suggests a degree of confidence in his first results, something he didn't have in his second result as evidenced by the fact he voted for me even with a "Lakeside Aligned" result. Occam's Razor, the ever popular reference around here, would suggest lynching the guy who shows up scum (Anti) as it is the simplest explanation, but I don't feel that would be productive as I don't think he actually is scum. And this is even taking into account the fact that he has a copy of a role that WAS scum in a previous game. It just seems too simple and clear cut to be right, but the simplest solution often is the correct one.

So all in all, I don't even know where to stand on the whole MJD/Anti/Derek thing and I'm part of the damn thing. I'm hoping that MJD shows up sometime soon and clears things up, especially since he might actually be the only person to come back with some useful info. It's worrying that we don't have any real leads at this stage and our potential town leaders are unable to guide the town because suspicion is being thrown over so many of them. :(

[Derek B]

Oh... and Anti, I'm glad you don't trust me. It's probably the only reason I'm even alive at this point in the game. I know that I die early in most games I play because people have heard of my reputation. But if I'm honest... if I'm as good as some people say, then surely I should be able to avoid dying so often? I almost welcome the suspicion, means I'm less likely to get killed off because we can always come back and point the finger at me. :)

[Slim Jim]

Eh... machine is really killing my enjoyment of the game. I don't know what's up with his posting style but it's turning me off reading up.

I'm going to get a drink and come back to read up without paying attention to him.

[Crychon]

So it's not the pack silencing.

How would a mafia silence three people at once?

Seems way overpowered.

Ah, you should've seen Mr. Freeze...

AND SIR! SIR!!... You have no right to talk to me in that tone. I am not willing to with stand your complete and under disrespect. If you cross me one more time I will make sure your the next person killed.

Understand SIR!

Soldering Iron. Your Face.

There's no time! No time!!

All right, there's some time. Get some rest. :p

(No time left for you) On my way to better things
(No time left for you) I found myself some wings
(No time left for you) Distant roads are callin' me
(No time left for you) Da-un-da-un-da-un-da-un-da

2) he refused to tell his second investigation result, despite the fact that everyone agreed that it needed to be done to help prove my claim that I am town. It got to the point I threatened to take a modkill for it and MJ relented...

He did reveal his results, unless I'm confused... I thought he said he checked out derek_b who came up town?

[Crychon]

Also, that machine quote was just chosen because that's when he STARTED to get on my nerves more, heh.

[Antithesis]

He did reveal his results, unless I'm confused... I thought he said he checked out derek_b who came up town?


and that's why i said he relented


relented

v. intr.
To become more lenient, compassionate, or forgiving. See Synonyms at yield.

v. tr. Obsolete

To cause to slacken or abate.
To cause to soften in attitude or temper.


from

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/relented

[The Archer]

ok. mjd and i have different results on antithesis. my hints were not being picked up by you guys.

[Crychon]

and that's why i said he relented


relented

v. intr.
To become more lenient, compassionate, or forgiving. See Synonyms at yield.

v. tr. Obsolete

To cause to slacken or abate.
To cause to soften in attitude or temper.


from

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/relented

I know the definition of relented, thanks... I might've just skimmed over your post because I was just happy to get to the end of that mess...

[Antithesis]

While I won't accuse Anti of being scum, the fact that MJD was willing to out himself after the first night to point the finger suggests a degree of confidence in his first results,

or a willingness to lie to appear town aligned.

I can do this all day.

Vote: Mjgoldeneye


Archer's information seals it for me.

[Antithesis]

I know the definition of relented, thanks... I might've just skimmed over your post because I was just happy to get to the end of that mess...

Shame, now I'll have to explain all over again why I think MJ is scum..


:Takes a deep breath:

hey wait.. I havent started yet! get back here!

[petrija]

Shame, now I'll have to explain all over again why I think MJ is scum..


:Takes a deep breath:

hey wait.. I havent started yet! get back here!

Awwww. It's okay. I've been reading.

[Crychon]

Shame, now I'll have to explain all over again why I think MJ is scum..


:Takes a deep breath:

hey wait.. I havent started yet! get back here!

That's ok, I can scroll up. :)

[Orange-kun]

I dunno, am I the only one who remembers that MJD claimed he was a sane investigator yet wanted to lynch derek who came up as town. Unless he thought derek was a don, it makes little sense.

So he does seem buggy.

[Crychon]

The only information that I have about mjd is that he was "creeping" around a building night two... Not sure if that helps or hurts his cause.

[Crychon]

The only information that I have about mjd is that he was "creeping" around a building night two... Not sure if that helps or hurts his cause.

As I'm sure an investigator would be "creeping" and/or treading carefully, but "creeping" obviously could be something shifty as well...

[Derek B]

or a willingness to lie to appear town aligned.

I can do this all day.

Vote: Mjgoldeneye


Archer's information seals it for me.

On that bombshell I'm off to bed. And just so that you know, I'm working 10-4:30 tomorrow (part timer, I know!) and will be out tomorrow night. Means I'm only going to have a few hours online but I'm gonna try to catch up as fast as I can when I wake up and see what's going on.

I can't help get the feeling I'm going to have a lot to catch up on when I wake up.

[Antithesis]

The only information that I have about mjd is that he was "creeping" around a building night two... Not sure if that helps or hurts his cause.

Thats interesting..

Arrows= Building

Grunt ='s house

Moe and Rev both seemed like they were just on the street...

says I just walk up and talk to em.

[petrija]

Thats interesting..

Arrows= Building

Grunt ='s house

Moe and Rev both seemed like they were just on the street...

says I just walk up and talk to em.

You forgot the offering money bit.
/nod.

[Antithesis]

You forgot the offering money bit.
/nod.

You sound jealous :)

[iMac]

I'm going to bed, and I'd rather vote now than maybe miss it tommorrow. So, with all the chat I've read over the last few pages...

Vote: Mjgoldeneye

Goodnight!

[petrija]

You sound jealous :)

maybe slightly kinda a little.

[Slim Jim]

So... I'm back. Chilled out a little in a new game on another site that has a lot of first time players in. That's always fun :p

I could see the MJD lynch being very fruitful, if he comes up scum then hooray and we have a couple more leads. If not, then we would have lynched an investigator but will have some more info on others... really not sure if it's worth the trade-off yet.

[The Archer]

hunting in the morning most of the day actually. but since its on my property will be able to check in. at this point i would have no problem throwing my vote in. have nothing on mjd, but with my results on antithesis i could back this.

[ShadowedFlames]

What the hell...Shadowed doing an MQM Driver?

I have a reason for this. ;)


You know, MJD, your play......the constant qualifying of your statements and the seemingly "please don't lynch me attitude" is a lot closer to your play in say Heroes Mafia than Gotham.

Don't have anything concrete at all, but it's troublesome.

/nod. I agree with this statement.

well i held off waiting on mjd to see what he was going to say. but then was disappointed. lets say i am starting to wonder if he actually is an investigator. if he is either he gets different results or there are other things at play.

/nod here, too.


I think MJ is scum.. for a couple of reasons.

1) he never explained why he targeted me night 1. Day 1 was all about MNN and AUssie and Grunt/Comrade vs Arrows.
Yet he targetted me.

Thats fine though but then
2) he refused to tell his second investigation result, despite the fact that everyone agreed that it needed to be done to help prove my claim that I am town. It got to the point I threatened to take a modkill for it and MJ relented...

After MNN told him to in the thread! (I noticed it, honest. :))

3) After MNN died and I started spouting theories I pointed out that Scum would claim an investigator if they had a mafia cop (investigator) in their group to find rival scum up for town lynches. The idea behind it is to make yourself look like a super townie.

Anyway I pointed out the only investigator that would work in that scenario would be MJ.

MJ then chimed in and said, if you don't believe me, track me.

To which I pointed out it would make more sense if someone just investigated him. Which he had no reply for.

4) As Revenant pointed out, MJ's been different this game. He doesn't seem as active or as argumentative this game. Past games, he'll argue about anything, even when he was scum. This game, he seems to defer to otehrs, seems hesitant to say anything concrete.

Thats in addition to the investiation deal.

Derek on the otehr hand.. well, he's Derek. I don't trust him, but its nothing as pronounced unlike MJ.

...Wait, Anti and I agree, though for me it's not in as many words? This is starting to creep me out... :p

or a willingness to lie to appear town aligned.

I can do this all day.

Vote: Mjgoldeneye


Archer's information seals it for me.

If that's the case, I think you're gonna love what's coming.

I have no idea what happened last night... I don't think I was infected, but I can't explain anything, really...

I targeted blackphoenix but never made it. Last night was described as a "blur" to me.

Apparently there was violence and yelling, and I thought it was a dream until I saw bruises and scrapes on my hands...

I didn't get any change in alignment, but I have a bad feeling about last night!

I don't know if Derek or me or Anti or BP would be good choices for a lynch or what...

It may seem strange to come out and just say what happened, but I knew it wasn't in my best interest to make something up!

SHENANIGANS!


"You followed MJD, but no one did anything to him. Your services were not needed."

Hmmm. So if I follwed MJD to do what I do, nothing happened, and yet he STILL has scratches and bruises....?

You, sir, are lying. Careto explain THAT away?

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

[petrija]

Hmmm. So if I follwed MJD to do what I do, nothing happened, and yet he STILL has scratches and bruises....?

You, sir, are lying. Careto explain THAT away?

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

[The Archer]

Hmmm. So if I follwed MJD to do what I do, nothing happened, and yet he STILL has scratches and bruises....?

You, sir, are lying. Careto explain THAT away?

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

ok on that.

changevote:mjdgoldeneye

[petrija]

anyone got a vote count?

[Actarus]

Hmmm. So if I follwed MJD to do what I do, nothing happened, and yet he STILL has scratches and bruises....?

You, sir, are lying. Careto explain THAT away?

Good job, SF!

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

[petrija]

Machinesxe is gonna be maaaaaaaaaaaad.

[Slim Jim]

ShadowedFlames, you are like a shining beacon of clarity through the fogginess of this game. I like it when people explain things so simply that even I can understand them.

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

[petrija]

anyone got a vote count?

Astil.
I see you.

[Orange-kun]

I like where this thread is going. Been iffy about him since he tried to start a derek lynch.

Vote: MJDgoldeneye

[gonvick]

ok. mjd and i have different results on antithesis. my hints were not being picked up by you guys.

Well, that gives us an interesting situation. Not completely sure yet what to make of it.

Anti being framed Night 1 would explain it. But I don't recall him being a person of interest at the time, so I'm not sure why he would be chosen for framing in the first place. Though with his reputation he's always a possibility for early investigating, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

MJD being insane and getting opposite results would explain it. Though I wouldn't expect the role he claimed to have gone insane between the games. But again, I suppose it might be possible if that's what Astil wanted.

MJD being a mafia cop would explain it. But I don't think he'd claim Anti was scum if he didn't get a result that lead to that conclusion. Providing the info for a mislynch is the quickest way to screw up a false investigator claim. I don't think he'd do that on day 2. And since he was the one that had the role Anti does in the past game, he's the last one I'd expect to assume it was a scum role in this game. He knows it was designed as a town role that just happened to get recruited as scum.

So I'm not sure what to make of this yet. There is one thing I've been curious about in regards to his claimed role. So I might as well ask now.

MJD, do still have the secondary part of that role? The part that doesn't come into effect unless something specific happens?

[ShadowedFlames]

ShadowedFlames, you are like a shining beacon of clarity through the fogginess of this game. I like it when people explain things so simply that even I can understand them.


*Tip of the cap*

Glad to be of service.

[petrija]

*Tip of the cap*

Glad to be of service.

Your ass is so on the noose if he's town.

[Comradebot]

vote: MJDgoldeneye


Brilliant job, gum shoe!

He's been on my scumdar all game... good to see some real evidence.

[gonvick]

Hmmm. So if I follwed MJD to do what I do, nothing happened, and yet he STILL has scratches and bruises....?

You, sir, are lying. Careto explain THAT away?

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

That's an interesting development. Do you know for sure that nothing happened at all?

Because the way you paraphrased it makes me wonder if it was just nothing that he would need your services for. I suppose it would depend on what services you provide but I'd rather you didn't reveal too much. So I want to make sure how clear your PM was.

Would you expect to know if someone else did something to him that was unrelated to your role?

[machinesxe]

Vote: Mjgoldeneye


Vote: mjdgoldeneye

Vote: mjdgoldeneye


changevote:mjdgoldeneye


Vote: mjdgoldeneye

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

Vote: MJDgoldeneye

I love it....Not so much as the Cyber feeling but he blood equals answers soo I down!!!

Vote Change:MDJgoldeneye

Cyber there is always tomorrow.

[blackphoenix]

What I found out last night:

Someone poking around with a dead body... not sure if this means forensic investigator, framer (ala CK in SW) or necrophilaic Zombie.

The problem about revealing who it is, means that I could be outing a powerful townie or a powerful scum...

Oh going with town pressure..

Vote: MJDgoldeneye

What's the count?

[Comradebot]

I have ten votes counted on MJD, with 17 to lynch.

[Antithesis]

necrophilaic Zombie.



Are they single?

Or, do they have a sister?

[ShadowedFlames]

Your ass is so on the noose if he's town.

Fine by me, milady. :D I know I'm town; if something goes wrong then there are definite shenanigans happening somewhere.

But what I received via PM and what he says do not mesh.

I'm fully aware of the risk I'm taking, but in this case I'm more than 87% confident that this is correct.

[petrija]

Someone poking around with a dead body... not sure if this means forensic investigator, framer (ala CK in SW) or necrophilaic Zombie.



LMFAO
LMFAO.
LMFAO...I HAVE TO SAY IT.
..
..Brings a new meaning to "Brains!"

[Astil]

Astil.
I see you.

Still at work. Sorry, can't post.

[Orange-kun]

What I found out last night:

Someone poking around with a dead body... not sure if this means forensic investigator, framer (ala CK in SW) or necrophilaic Zombie.

The problem about revealing who it is, means that I could be outing a powerful townie or a powerful scum...

Oh going with town pressure..

Vote: MJDgoldeneye

What's the count?

If I counted correctly, about 11. Which might be a nice place to stop if we want MJD to come up and explain himself. That and wait for more info.

[petrija]

I just counted 12.

[ShadowedFlames]

That's an interesting development. Do you know for sure that nothing happened at all?

Because the way you paraphrased it makes me wonder if it was just nothing that he would need your services for. I suppose it would depend on what services you provide but I'd rather you didn't reveal too much. So I want to make sure how clear your PM was.

Would you expect to know if someone else did something to him that was unrelated to your role?

Considering I'm supposed to protect him from any threats...yeah. I'd expect to know.

[Slim Jim]

What I found out last night:

Someone poking around with a dead body... not sure if this means forensic investigator, framer (ala CK in SW) or necrophilaic Zombie.

Hmm, I see the dilemma. Can you tell us which dead person they targeted though? Not sure why that helps but you never know :o

[blackphoenix]

Hmm, I see the dilemma. Can you tell us which dead person they targeted though? Not sure why that helps but you never know :o

Wallbanger

[Antithesis]

Another option...


Thanos and his minions sometimes had to take gems off of dead bodies..

So it could be something someone /some group has to gather up....

[Slim Jim]

Wallbanger

JUST AS I SUSPECTED.... that made no difference. :(

Though people were saying earlier they thought the FI died night one, so perhaps that could mean nasty shenanigans are more likely? Eh. Don't reveal anything yet, we have MJD against the ropes for now.

[Crychon]

Excellent work, SF!

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

[Antithesis]

More importantly, was Wallbanger smiling?

[blackphoenix]

More importantly, was Wallbanger smiling?

I just noticed it was an odd poking.

Sorry MJD I don't know anything about your dream state thing, I was just doing my tracking thing.

[machinesxe]

Lets move forward and finish this ****... A couple more votes and we have it in the back. We have decided to lynch his as a team we will reap or suffer the consequences.

[petrija]

More importantly, was Wallbanger smiling?

LMFAO!

[gonvick]

Considering I'm supposed to protect him from any threats...yeah. I'd expect to know.

That's presuming the dream thing qualifies as a threat you could protect him against. I'm not really sure how that would work. I'm not saying you're wrong, just want to be a bit cautious before we lynch a claimed investigator.

I have some thoughts on this, but I'd like to hear from MJD first. We have time, so let's not rush this until we understand it better.

[bak42]

[/B]

I just want to say, having discussed the possibility of a zombie uprising with people before...

1. If it's the slow zombies, I'll be okay.
2. Fast running zombies... we're ALL ****ed

Well, since they apparently can talk, they're probably the latter.

[petrija]

Well, since they apparently can talk, they're probably the latter.

Maybe they have the option of talking or running:p

[Comradebot]

I swear, someone is walking infront of my house playing a tuba.

I'm not sure if its creepy in a serial killer way, or creepy in a "there's probably a greasy fat kid outside my house" way.

[Prophet]

I swear, someone is walking infront of my house playing a tuba.

I'm not sure if its creepy in a serial killer way, or creepy in a "there's probably a greasy fat kid outside my house" way.

Is it playing that plodding music that Stewie played in the Family Guy episode which featured Robert Downey Jr. as the Fat Guy Strangler?

`cause that might answer your question. lol

[Orange-kun]

I swear, someone is walking infront of my house playing a tuba.

I'm not sure if its creepy in a serial killer way, or creepy in a "there's probably a greasy fat kid outside my house" way.

Or you anywhere near a school or college? Otherwise that is insanely creepy.

[petrija]

Is it playing that plodding music that Stewie played in the Family Guy episode which featured Robert Downey Jr. as the Fat Guy Strangler?

`cause that might answer your question. lol

....Thank you, ComicBook Man.

[Comradebot]

Or you anywhere near a school or college? Otherwise that is insanely creepy.

If this was an ordinary event, would I be mentioning it?

They're not very good, either... Still, I hear a frakkin' tuba outside my house.

[Prophet]

....Thank you, ComicBook Man.

Best ... character ... evah!

http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/networkhub/files/2008/02/comic-book-guy.jpg

[bak42]

Maybe they have the option of talking or running:p

We can only hope.

[Orange-kun]

If this was an ordinary event, would I be mentioning it?

They're not very good, either... Still, I hear a frakkin' tuba outside my house.

I tend to rant like a lil old lady. Like those kids who play ultimate Frisbee and scream the entire time. *shakes fist*

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 33 available, it is 17 to lynch. You have until 11:00 AM EST Friday October 31st to reach majority.

cyberkitten01 -1 ( The Shape)

GruntMark - 1 (mistaken)

machinesxe - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

mjdgoldeneye - 12 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Actarus, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, Crychon,)

[Astil]

I tend to rant like a lil old lady. Like those kids who play ultimate Frisbee and scream the entire time. *shakes fist*

Don't forget about Paul London's long shorts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Paul_London_and_Brian_Kendrick_7dec2006.jpg

[Orange-kun]

Don't forget about Paul London's long shorts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Paul_London_and_Brian_Kendrick_7dec2006.jpg

y u do this?

[Prophet]

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

I'm leary about this, with the shennanigans that have gone on so far, but nothing seems to add up.

However, this mysterious dream-state throws a whole new wrench in the works. I know, one way or another, we get more answers, which is what we need, but it's a heavy price to pay if we're wrong.

[Astil]

I swear, someone is walking infront of my house playing a tuba.

I'm not sure if its creepy in a serial killer way, or creepy in a "there's probably a greasy fat kid outside my house" way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T0GRjxOP98

What serial killer plays a tuba? That's just poor sneakiness.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 33 available, it is 17 to lynch. You have until 11:00 AM EST Friday October 31st to reach majority.

cyberkitten01 -1 ( The Shape)

GruntMark - 1 (mistaken)

machinesxe - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

mjdgoldeneye - 13 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Actarus, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, Crychon, Prophet)

[Prophet]

Is it playing that plodding music that Stewie played in the Family Guy episode which featured Robert Downey Jr. as the Fat Guy Strangler?

`cause that might answer your question. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T0GRjxOP98

A-ha, it's the wrong episode! It's the one where Chris goes to Morningwood Academy. I stink!

[mjdgoldeneye]

You know, MJD, your play......the constant qualifying of your statements and the seemingly "please don't lynch me attitude" is a lot closer to your play in say Heroes Mafia than Gotham.

Well, since the third or fourth game I've always over qualified my statements in fear of being misunderstood. As for your claims of my attitude, I suggested myself as a possible lynching candidate in the post you quoted! That's far from what you said!

Woah, hadn't noticed that part before. That's pretty harsh! Just because I can't investigate I wouldnt' say I was inept. At least I haven't been distracting the town

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... Did you actually quote a supposed post by me or is this a joke? What you quoted I never said... Even if I die, I want an explanation to make sure my account isn't being hacked!!! Link to the post?

I dunno, am I the only one who remembers that MJD claimed he was a sane investigator yet wanted to lynch derek who came up as town. Unless he thought derek was a don, it makes little sense.

So he does seem buggy.

I wanted to vote for Derek because I was trying to test my validity. What I got on Derek was much more suspicious than what I got on Anti, and if you substituted the supposed alignments, it would make clear sense.

How I feel about my role and the fact of the matter are two different things...

Obviously there is something strange going on or mods have made mistakes or someone is scummy. I really don't see why, at this point, I'm looking bad...

Before, when I got my PM, I figured I would be lynched immediately upon revealing it and wouldn't have been upset... However, people made excuses for me and now you're claiming I'm lying? How does that make any sense?!?!

Wouldn't it make sense if I was lying to begin with to not start a random bandwagon on Anti? Wouldn't make sense if I was lying to not claim Derek was town and then vote on him to test my validity? Wouldn't it make sense not to make up a completely irrelevant and incriminating story when, apparently, I haven't told the truth to begin with?

Nothing, anywhere, adds up...

I know I'm known for crazy maneuvers. but it takes a special kind of anti-intuition to even start making up the things I did...

This game is all about intent, and I just don't see where you've got me on that!

Finally, I'd like to say that I'm lost as far as this game goes... I don't remember Arrows ever getting a dream sequence, and if I did, I'd never had said anything or I'd have claimed I forgot to send my PM in or something. But, aside from that, how many variables aren't you taking into account? Don't we have a possibly infected busdriver running around? Hell, where's the guy that protected who might be able to vouch for me?

(PS Can I post PM results? It appears others have already, so I think I very well may...)

[Astil]

(PS Can I post PM results? It appears others have already, so I think I very well may...)

For you and anyone else with this question.

Paraphrase.

Also. Front Page Update Tomorrow Morning.

[treton]

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

It seems like mjd is scum, based on the info found, which completely confuses me, but if 13 other people say it's true, it most likely is.

[bak42]

What the hell, might as well climb on the bandwagon.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Vote: mjdgoldeneye

It seems like mjd is scum, based on the info found, which completely confuses me, but if 13 other people say it's true, it most likely is.

This is the type of sentence that infuriates me...

I can't stand the ever-so-common "Yay Bandwagon!" statements.

You're either following orders and/or capitulating oyour own will to that of people with dubious alignments...

Just wanted to say...

(By the way, don't lynch me without actually asking me to explain... Please, for the sake of logic and actual, genuine, acceptable strategy: Let me know what I'm being accused of and the evidence supporting it! These mafia games have turned into nonchalant games of chance...)

[bak42]

What the hell, might as well climb on the bandwagon.

And leave it to me to forget the important part:rolleyes:

vote: mjdgoldeneye

[mjdgoldeneye]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... Did you actually quote a supposed post by me or is this a joke? What you quoted I never said... Even if I die, I want an explanation to make sure my account isn't being hacked!!! Link to the post?

Don't forget this... I want this explained before I go to bed whether I live or die... Does anyone recall seeing this post actually made by me? If so, Mach (probably) hacked my account.

If that's the case, I'll be livid...

[Crychon]

Don't forget this... I want this explained before I go to bed whether I live or die... Does anyone recall seeing this post actually made by me? If so, Mach (probably) hacked my account.

If that's the case, I'll be livid...

It looks to me that she just typed quote, and had the wrong name in mind, rather than actually quoting it.

[mjdgoldeneye]

And leave it to me to forget the important part:rolleyes:

vote: mjdgoldeneye

Does anyone read? Or do you guys not care/are you scum?

You do realize that you will (or should) look awful when I die...

Take it or leave it, I'm offering my spot on the waiting list to anyone who wants to risk theirs over my townieness... That may seem unscrupulous, but I know the truth and things aren't looking good for me at the moment! :p

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 33 available, it is 17 to lynch. You have until 11:00 AM EST Friday October 31st to reach majority.

cyberkitten01 -1 ( The Shape)

GruntMark - 1 (mistaken)

machinesxe - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

mjdgoldeneye - 15 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Actarus, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, Crychon, Prophet, treton, bak42)

[Prophet]

Change vote: No vote

I still want time to think this through.

As for the Mach quote, he did it himself. Used one of your quotes, and typed in something new. I even double checked it, by hitting the jump tab, and it led nowhere.

[Crychon]

Also... For some reason something just doesn't feel right about this to me...

Change Vote: No Vote

It just keeps on going through my mind that one of the two might not be sane, and that's going to screw us over...

mjd, could you please repost your role title, so I don't have to hunt for it?

[GruntMark]

This lynch is going down suspiciously fast.

Im holding off for the time being...

[Prophet]

Yeah, it happened last day phase too. We got into dangerous numbers, and then everyone jumped up and voted. We need to slow these down some, methinks.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Lakeside Aligned Investigative Journalist

I still have my power, and I'm still town... If you want to keep me on probation (at least) and test me more, I'd appreciate it.

I assure you that I both have no idea what's going on and that I'm telling the whole truth (as far as I know, and meaning I'm not leaving anything out as I normally would).

[GruntMark]

Yeah, it happened last day phase too. We got into dangerous numbers, and then everyone jumped up and voted. We need to slow these down some, methinks.

Well...last day phase, Nick was pretty clearly evil. ;)

SF just basically outs himself over a long reach of a hunch.

Last game I couldnt...interfer....with say...a freeze blast.

[gonvick]

MJD, do you still have the secondary aspect to that role? The one that's dependent on something else happening?

It doesn't really effect anything, I'm just curious.

[Prophet]

I'm more interested in last night. Your pm said you were home, or out somewhere unknown? And the blood was yours?

[Prophet]

Well...last day phase, Nick was pretty clearly evil. ;)

SF just basically outs himself over a long reach of a hunch.

Last game I couldnt...interfer....with say...a freeze blast.

Well, yeah, but the thing was, once the votes got to like 13 or so ... 5 votes came up in less than half an hour. We were taking time, plotting it out, I thought, and all of a sudden, he was dead. It was good, but it might not always work out that way, is what I'm saying.

[Crychon]

Lakeside Aligned Investigative Journalist

I still have my power, and I'm still town... If you want to keep me on probation (at least) and test me more, I'd appreciate it.

I assure you that I both have no idea what's going on and that I'm telling the whole truth (as far as I know, and meaning I'm not leaving anything out as I normally would).

Ok... Hmm... Did absolutely no one question whether both of these investigators could be sane? I mean, they've only investigated the same target once, and on different nights...

We have that other guy who hasn't been around lately who says he's an investigator too... Now, out of the three, I'm guessing it could make sense that one of them wouldn't be sane, correct?

[gonvick]

Well...last day phase, Nick was pretty clearly evil. ;)

SF just basically outs himself over a long reach of a hunch.

Last game I couldnt...interfer....with say...a freeze blast.

Yeah, this has gone remarkably fast for the level of evidence that was brought up. Especially with how much time is left in the phase.

That could be instructive.

[Actarus]

Does anyone read? Or do you guys not care/are you scum?

You do realize that you will (or should) look awful when I die...

Take it or leave it, I'm offering my spot on the waiting list to anyone who wants to risk theirs over my townieness... That may seem unscrupulous, but I know the truth and things aren't looking good for me at the moment! :p

Change Vote: No Vote

I'll give you a chance to explain / defend yourself, though...well, never mind. Let's hear it.

[Crychon]

Ok... Hmm... Did absolutely no one question whether both of these investigators could be sane? I mean, they've only investigated the same target once, and on different nights...

We have that other guy who hasn't been around lately who says he's an investigator too... Now, out of the three, I'm guessing it could make sense that one of them wouldn't be sane, correct?

By this, I mean, the possibility of that, not the fact of it.

[Prophet]

Ok... Hmm... Did absolutely no one question whether both of these investigators could be sane? I mean, they've only investigated the same target once, and on different nights...

We have that other guy who hasn't been around lately who says he's an investigator too... Now, out of the three, I'm guessing it could make sense that one of them wouldn't be sane, correct?

Well, here's the thing about the 3rd investigator ...

The first night, he got stonewalled by Bubba McDoorBlock. And, unless I missed it, he hasn't spoken up since. I'm not entirely sold he's an investigator, and if he is, he's got no body of work to prove/disprove his sanity.

[Antithesis]

MJ can you paraphrase what it is that makes you suspicious of Derek?

I don't recall you explaining it.

[Antithesis]

MJ can you paraphrase what it is that makes you suspicious of Derek?

I don't recall you explaining it.

And why you didn't vote to lynch me (day 3)

Did you get extra details beyond just alignment?

[Crychon]

Well, here's the thing about the 3rd investigator ...

The first night, he got stonewalled by Bubba McDoorBlock. And, unless I missed it, he hasn't spoken up since. I'm not entirely sold he's an investigator, and if he is, he's got no body of work to prove/disprove his sanity.

/nod You'd think he'd be a bit more forthcoming of information.

[mjdgoldeneye]

MJD, do you still have the secondary aspect to that role? The one that's dependent on something else happening?

It doesn't really effect anything, I'm just curious.

Does what you're suggesting have anything similar to what MNN claimed to be? I am not familiar with the original role...

There is a secondary part that I forgot because it hasn't been pertinent at all yet.

Ok... Hmm... Did absolutely no one question whether both of these investigators could be sane? I mean, they've only investigated the same target once, and on different nights...

We have that other guy who hasn't been around lately who says he's an investigator too... Now, out of the three, I'm guessing it could make sense that one of them wouldn't be sane, correct?

Well, here's what could be true:

Anti is scum. Derek is not.
Derek is scum. Anti is not.
Both town.
Both not.

Any situation could work, it's simply a matter of a huge number of variables!

[gonvick]

Ok... Hmm... Did absolutely no one question whether both of these investigators could be sane? I mean, they've only investigated the same target once, and on different nights...

We have that other guy who hasn't been around lately who says he's an investigator too... Now, out of the three, I'm guessing it could make sense that one of them wouldn't be sane, correct?

It's possible one of them is insane.

I doubt it would be Archer since he got a scum result on Arrows, who claims miller.

If MJD is insane, then the role has changed significantly from the previous game it was in. I would think there would likely be a clue in his role PM that might indicate that something happened to him between games. But I think MJD has said there is no such hint, so I don't know.

[Antithesis]

Need I dig up those posts where Mj insisted, vehemently, that there was no way he could be insane, paranoid, schizophrenic etc etc etc.


If thats his argument now, then I am gonna be disappointed.

[petrija]

Need I dig up those posts where Mj insisted, vehemently, that there was no way he could be insane, paranoid, schizophrenic etc etc etc.


If thats his argument now, then I am gonna be disappointed.

/faceknee.

mmhmm.
cause i'm cool like that.

[gonvick]

Does what you're suggesting have anything similar to what MNN claimed to be? I am not familiar with the original role...

There is a secondary part that I forgot because it hasn't been pertinent at all yet.

That sounds like what I was thinking of. I've just been wondering if any of the recurring roles have changed. Might be useful later on.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Need I dig up those posts where Mj insisted, vehemently, that there was no way he could be insane, paranoid, schizophrenic etc etc etc.


If thats his argument now, then I am gonna be disappointed.

You use clearly inappropriate words here... Let my own words do the talking...

In fact, Arrows asked me if I was saying if there was no way I was insane, and I said no. I still stand by what I said. I do not see why I would be insane now, and nothing in my role suggests the possibility.

I never said (ever) I couldn't be insane (or that I absolutely wasn't for that matter).

I know due to my results that I can't be naive or paranoid as I got one result of each... (Actually, bus driving or framing throws that off, and I forgot...)

[Antithesis]

Here's what I have to say:

1. I'm a recurring character. I reread my role...

2. The win condition thing is evidence, but not proof.

3. I'm not insane. That possibility doesn't fit my role. I'd buy naive investigator as a possibility, but I got a scum result.

4. The Mayor was scum... I was the mayor... However, he wasn't scum by design. I think whether Anti's claim is suspicious or not depends on what Astil was thinking when he wrote it... Is she vengeful? Is she scared?

5, I'd be willing to lynch Anti for information's sake, but that would leave me looking bad if he is indeed telling the truth. So, eh...

6. Profit.

...

Change Vote: No Vote

If he's in fact scum, I'm not letting loose on someone without real proof again anytime soon! :p

The only likely scenario I can come up with for why Anti came up scum is that he's scum... Other than that, various shenanigans could have happened. Either way, I'm a useful character beyond what I've explained and "assistance" at night would be appreciated. :D

3. 100% sure?

5. Same.

3. No, but if I was insane, my character would be kind of contradictory to include... I would bank on me not being insane...

Sorry, I must have misunderstood that when you said you were not insane you meant that you weren't sure you couldn't be insane.


:rolleyes:

[mjdgoldeneye]

Sorry, I must have misunderstood that when you said you were not insane you meant that you weren't sure you couldn't be insane.


:rolleyes:

You don't have to go far to see my growing lack of confidence... Long before my alignment came into question, I began to acknowledge possibilities.

I still doubt I'm insane to a high degree. However, I admit I wouldn't say that I am not.

(Regardless, I never said the possibility was impossible. Only highly unlikely. And I still hold that idea. See a pattern yet? :p)

[Antithesis]

You use clearly inappropriate words here... Let my own words do the talking...

In fact, Arrows asked me if I was saying if there was no way I was insane, and I said no. I still stand by what I said. I do not see why I would be insane now, and nothing in my role suggests the possibility.

I never said (ever) I couldn't be insane (or that I absolutely wasn't for that matter).

I know due to my results that I can't be naive or paranoid as I got one result of each... (Actually, bus driving or framing throws that off, and I forgot...)

If the bus driving is like Grunt's, then its easy to tell from the PM. Fact that no one else has mentioned being busdriven aside from people targeted by Grunt pretty much insures that there isn't another bus driver in the game, don't you think?

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 33 available, it is 17 to lynch. You have until 11:00 AM EST Friday October 31st to reach majority.

cyberkitten01 -1 ( The Shape)

GruntMark - 1 (mistaken)

machinesxe - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

mjdgoldeneye - 12 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, treton, bak42)

[Antithesis]

You don't have to go far to see my growing lack of confidence... Long before my alignment came into question, I began to acknowledge possibilities.

I still doubt I'm insane to a high degree. However, I admit I wouldn't say that I am not.

(Regardless, I never said the possibility was impossible. Only highly unlikely. And I still hold that idea. See a pattern yet? :p)

It wasn't such a difference in confidence then that you didn't tell people to not vote on me.

Actually thats maybe even worse.

I came up scum, but you removed your vote.

Derek came up town and you voted on him.

Are you really sure you thought your investigations were legit?

[Prophet]

I wanna backtrack to something else.

BP saw someone poking a dead body, right? And someone said it might make sense, if they were gathering something from the remains? Is there any possibility that's a Lakesider? It doesn't sound very town-ish, to be doing that.

[Antithesis]

I wanna backtrack to something else.

BP saw someone poking a dead body, right? And someone said it might make sense, if they were gathering something from the remains? Is there any possibility that's a Lakesider? It doesn't sound very town-ish, to be doing that.

Thats why I asked if it looked like Wallbanger was enjoying it....

[bak42]

I wanna backtrack to something else.

BP saw someone poking a dead body, right? And someone said it might make sense, if they were gathering something from the remains? Is there any possibility that's a Lakesider? It doesn't sound very town-ish, to be doing that.

Unless said person was poking a dead body that used to be undead possibly gathering materials or information needed to produce some sort of cure or vaccine.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Are you really sure you thought your investigations were legit?

I can't blame you for seeing conflict... As I explained, if people wanted to lynch one of you in order to test my validity, and I assumed the actual alignment notes meant nothing, Derek's flavor text was more unnerving.

I was trying to be neutral... Had Derek come up scum, I'd be just as dumbstruck if you came up town!

Also, have we considered a framer?

[Prophet]

Unless said person was poking a dead body that used to be undead possibly gathering materials or information needed to produce some sort of cure or vaccine.

No, it was Wall, and he's been dead since night 1. A confirmed townie. That's what makes me wonder.

[Antithesis]

I can't blame you for seeing conflict... As I explained, if people wanted to lynch one of you in order to test my validity, and I assumed the actual alignment notes meant nothing, Derek's flavor text was more unnerving.

I was trying to be neutral... Had Derek come up scum, I'd be just as dumbstruck if you came up town!

Also, have we considered a framer?

Framed who? Derek or me or both?

From what we can tell, MNN might have been framed night 1.

[gonvick]

I wanna backtrack to something else.

BP saw someone poking a dead body, right? And someone said it might make sense, if they were gathering something from the remains? Is there any possibility that's a Lakesider? It doesn't sound very town-ish, to be doing that.

I can't think of many town roles that would target a dead body. I'm fairly certain the obvious one died the first night, and I wouldn't expect a deputy to be included. So I'm not sure what's going on with that.

In a game with a group of Undead, someone messing around with corpses is a bit worrying. But I don't know what scum would want with a corpse either.

[Antithesis]

But I don't know what scum would want with a corpse either.


BBBBRRRRRAAAAAIIIINNNSSSSSSSS

[Prophet]

I can't think of many town roles that would target a dead body. I'm fairly certain the obvious one died the first night, and I wouldn't expect a deputy to be included. So I'm not sure what's going on with that.

In a game with a group of Undead, someone messing around with corpses is a bit worrying. But I don't know what scum would want with a corpse either.

It leads me to think someone needed something from his body, someone was checking to see if his body was intact enough to infect (as we know next to nothing about the z-virus), or one of us is a dirty birdie.

I think she also jokingly said a zombie necropheliac, which may be nothing, or it may be showing she knows more about who was doing the poking than she's letting on. It was a back burner thought, but the fact that anyone outside a forensics guy is even close to our dead is unsettling.

[Prophet]

BBBBRRRRRAAAAAIIIINNNSSSSSSSS

Oh that, yea. lol

[Crychon]

Thats why I asked if it looked like Wallbanger was enjoying it....

He was probably a bit too dead to.

No, it was Wall, and he's been dead since night 1. A confirmed townie. That's what makes me wonder.

Yeah... Why was it never revealed WHO targeted Wallbanger again?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Framed who? Derek or me or both?

From what we can tell, MNN might have been framed night 1.

Ideally it would be you, but it wouldn't work out if MNN was framed (unless there's another framer).

If it was Derek, I'm paranoid, which makes less sense than insane...

Surely the odds disallow it from being both!

[Prophet]

Yeah... Why was it never revealed WHO targeted Wallbanger again?

Fear of outting a powerful townie. Strikes me as odd. And, at the time, it worked. We glossed it over. I think Mach was losing his mind during that time too, but that's possibly wrong.

There's variables that could explain why Gold has gone through what he's experienced. Not saying they're true, but possible. I can't, for the life of me, think of a single good reason someone would be prodding a dead man.

[bak42]

I think Mach was losing his mind during that time too, but that's possibly wrong.

When hasn't Mach been losing his mind?

[Crychon]

Fear of outting a powerful townie. Strikes me as odd. And, at the time, it worked. We glossed it over. I think Mach was losing his mind during that time too, but that's possibly wrong.

There's variables that could explain why Gold has gone through what he's experienced. Not saying they're true, but possible. I can't, for the life of me, think of a single good reason someone would be prodding a dead man.

Valuable townies can be protected... Finding big time scum, possibly even the Zombie king seems like a bigger deal to me, but eh.

[Prophet]

Valuable townies can be protected... Finding big time scum, possibly even the Zombie king seems like a bigger deal to me, but eh.

Yeah, I'm on board with that idea. I'd be a little happier sleeping, knowing the Zombie King was dead.

I think when BP logs on, we need to find out who that was, exactly.

[gonvick]

Yeah, I'm on board with that idea. I'd be a little happier sleeping, knowing the Zombie King was dead.

I think when BP logs on, we need to find out who that was, exactly.

I believe we're also still waiting to hear from Shape as well.

That is, if there isn't a rushed early lynch on the claimed investigator before we can follow up on these things.

[Prophet]

I believe we're also still waiting to hear from Shape as well.

That is, if there isn't a rushed early lynch on the claimed investigator before we can follow up on these things.

Yeah, because I've had thoughts about that as well. One of the reasons I dropped mine, when the others started adding up. I'm all for bloodshed, but when there's a chance to get answers that could save our little suburb here, I want to hold off on losing that chance for as long as possible.

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 33 available, it is 17 to lynch. You have until 11:00 AM EST Friday October 31st to reach majority.

cyberkitten01 -1 ( The Shape)

GruntMark - 1 (mistaken)

machinesxe - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

mjdgoldeneye - 12 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, treton, bak42)

I'm tired... so, no more vote counts from me tonight.

[gonvick]

I believe we're also still waiting to hear from Shape as well.

That is, if there isn't a rushed early lynch on the claimed investigator before we can follow up on these things.

Okay, I just thought of another option, or two, for Shape's hint.

So, Shape, on scale of 1 to 10, how big of a coincidence is your role in this game? Also, 1 or 2? Hopefully you understand what I'm asking.

Unless you want to be more obvious about it. That's up to you.

[UFC-KING]

I'll get behind this

Vote : mjdgoldeneye

[UFC-KING]

It is now Day Phase 3. With 33 available, it is 17 to lynch. You have until 11:00 AM EST Friday October 31st to reach majority.

cyberkitten01 -1 ( The Shape)

GruntMark - 1 (mistaken)

machinesxe - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

mjdgoldeneye - 13 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, treton, bak42, UFC-KING)

[blackphoenix]

Just clarifying the town wants to me to reveal who was playing with the dead body?

As I said I didn't know if someone like a forensic investigator still existed and I didn't want to out someone who could track mafia kills.

I'm happy to release the name but I want more that two people asking for it. The Necrophiliac zombie was a joke as I unfortunately unlike Aussie's shambling and stumbling I only got that I thought what the person was doing was strange.

[blackphoenix]

Also i just got fallout 3... woo... so I might be in and out abit

[gonvick]

Just clarifying the town wants to me to reveal who was playing with the dead body?

As I said I didn't know if someone like a forensic investigator still existed and I didn't want to out someone who could track mafia kills.

I'm happy to release the name but I want more that two people asking for it. The Necrophiliac zombie was a joke as I unfortunately unlike Aussie's shambling and stumbling I only got that I thought what the person was doing was strange.

I doubt it was a forensic investigator, so you can add me to the list of people who would like to know who it was.

Might be town, might not. We won't know if we don't look into it.

[Antithesis]

Just clarifying the town wants to me to reveal who was playing with the dead body?

As I said I didn't know if someone like a forensic investigator still existed and I didn't want to out someone who could track mafia kills.

I'm happy to release the name but I want more that two people asking for it. The Necrophiliac zombie was a joke as I unfortunately unlike Aussie's shambling and stumbling I only got that I thought what the person was doing was strange.

might as well out them.

In a game with undead someone prodding a corpse can't be good.

Then, somehow, even if they are, its probably something the town needs to know anyway.

[Comradebot]

might as well out them.

In a game with undead someone prodding a corpse can't be good.

Then, somehow, even if they are, its probably something the town needs to know anyway.

True.

I mean, if you die tomorrow night, and that info could've helped us...

Well, it'd suck. And with this game all nice and dark, there's a chance we want to know who's prodding corpses.

[Prophet]

Besides, like Crychon said, we can protect a valued townie. Letting the zombie king roam free, when we had our sights on him would hurt ... a lot.

[blackphoenix]

Sorry for the late reply, Fallout 3 New shiny and pretty.

I wasn't buying Mistaken's 'totally useless shiny town sale' and followed him.

I kept my distance, but watched Mistaken poking the corpse of Mr Wallbanger.

Now I don't now how many useless townie's do that...

[Comradebot]

Sorry for the late reply, Fallout 3 New shiny and pretty.

I wasn't buying Mistaken's 'totally useless shiny town sale' and followed him.

I kept my distance, but watched Mistaken poking the corpse of Mr Wallbanger.

Now I don't now how many useless townie's do that...


THAT... sounds like we caught him in a massive, if I'm not Mistaken.

[The Rock 13]

Tbh, I have a funny feeling abiut mjd's roleclaim. It seems, so, so... Normal. Too safe if you know what I mean. MJD, are you female or male btw?

[The Rock 13]

Looking at bp's post. It seems mistaken is some sort of a forensic investigator which is normally a townie role, no? But with a game like this with loads of undead people etc..

Vote: Mistaken

I think we need an explonation.

[Derek B]

Morning Lakeside!

I wasn't looking at the timestamps but I have to say the votes that piled up on MJD seemed to go on very, very fast indeed. It might just've been the speed I was reading but that un-nerved me. Unless MJD is playing a fake investigator it would be crazy to out himself with a scum claim on the second day and NOT be telling the truth about the result he got. And I appreciate the irony of the fact that I'm partly defending the person who seems to want to lynch me, but when I see so many votes piling up on a claimed investigator I have to say something. Information is out most valuable resource if MJD really is investigating people then we need to keep him.

Mind you, his defense hasn't been great. In one post he said he had revealed everything about his role only to shortly thereafter say he had forgotten about something. And Shadowed's info doesn't help his case either. :(

As for Mr Corpse Poker... I can't help but think he's up to no good. With our forensic investigator dead (seemingly) I just can't work out what anyone will be doing with corpses that will be beneficial to the town.

Vote: mistaken

[Comradebot]

change vote: mistaken


I think this might be the safer bet.

[gonvick]

I think the case against MJD looks rather weak for what we're risking if we lynch him. And I can't help but think Shadowed might be reading too much into his results PM. Unless I'm not understanding his role correctly.

Vote: Mistaken

So I think this is at least worth pursuing further.

[Comradebot]

I think the case against MJD looks rather weak for what we're risking if we lynch him. And I can't help but think Shadowed might be reading too much into his results PM. Unless I'm not understanding his role correctly.

Vote: Mistaken

So I think this is at least worth pursuing further.

Exactly. And when you claim to not do nothing, and are seen poking bodies (lol, necrophilia...) then you quickly become a major suspect.

[Crychon]

Sorry for the late reply, Fallout 3 New shiny and pretty.

I wasn't buying Mistaken's 'totally useless shiny town sale' and followed him.

I kept my distance, but watched Mistaken poking the corpse of Mr Wallbanger.

Now I don't now how many useless townie's do that...

Yeah... From my experience forensic investigators can't touch bodies from a couple of nights ago... I think he's up to something fishy.

Vote: mistaken

[cyberkitten01]

I just counted 12.

Don't forget every lynch so far has taken one less vote than it should have. Something to bare in mind with all these pressure votes that sprung up

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait... Did you actually quote a supposed post by me or is this a joke? What you quoted I never said... Even if I die, I want an explanation to make sure my account isn't being hacked!!! Link to the post?

Woah! Sorry MJ! Mach quoted a post of your's saying I was inept which I was sure I hadn't seen, hence the reaction, but when I clicked the quote link it didn't exist. I figured that was something wierd on the boards like why we can't search for really old threads since the 67.19.230.90 domain thingy. It didn't occur to me that you hadn't actually posted that, especially since we can't edit our posts, that makes Mach very very naughty!! Quoting someone and changing what they say should be taken as very dodgy :mad:

Change vote: No vote

I still want time to think this through.

As for the Mach quote, he did it himself. Used one of your quotes, and typed in something new. I even double checked it, by hitting the jump tab, and it led nowhere.

Thanks Prophet, Mach is a naughty boy!

Also i just got fallout 3... woo... so I might be in and out abit

Is it awesome? Money's tight at the mo so I've asked for it for Christmas. I hope it's good! I was psyched about Fable II, but after reading about it, not so much now.

might as well out them.

In a game with undead someone prodding a corpse can't be good.

Then, somehow, even if they are, its probably something the town needs to know anyway.

I agree with Anti, best time to know is now since we're not totally convinced about MJ despite all the votes.

Sorry for the late reply, Fallout 3 New shiny and pretty.

I wasn't buying Mistaken's 'totally useless shiny town sale' and followed him.

I kept my distance, but watched Mistaken poking the corpse of Mr Wallbanger.

Now I don't now how many useless townie's do that...

THAT... sounds like we caught him in a massive, if I'm not Mistaken.

Sounds incredibly dodgy!

Vote: Mistaken

[mistaken]

A giant quote filled response is coming.

please refrain from lynching me for about 10 minutes

[mistaken]

What I found out last night:

Someone poking around with a dead body... not sure if this means forensic investigator, framer (ala CK in SW) or necrophilaic Zombie.

The problem about revealing who it is, means that I could be outing a powerful townie or a powerful scum...

Oh going with town pressure..

Vote: MJDgoldeneye

What's the count?

That would be me!


Hmm, I see the dilemma. Can you tell us which dead person they targeted though? Not sure why that helps but you never know :o

night 1 no one, as aussie did not die, and I was not allowed to target the two town leaders

Another option...


Thanos and his minions sometimes had to take gems off of dead bodies..

So it could be something someone /some group has to gather up....

I am able to take things off of the dead bodies, more latter.

I wanna backtrack to something else.

BP saw someone poking a dead body, right? And someone said it might make sense, if they were gathering something from the remains? Is there any possibility that's a Lakesider? It doesn't sound very town-ish, to be doing that.

Yes I am a Lakesider, and now a VERY important onne

No, it was Wall, and he's been dead since night 1. A confirmed townie. That's what makes me wonder.

Yes night 2 i looked over infinitywpi's body, but the poor schmuck had nothing on him of value

I can't think of many town roles that would target a dead body. I'm fairly certain the obvious one died the first night, and I wouldn't expect a deputy to be included. So I'm not sure what's going on with that.

In a game with a group of Undead, someone messing around with corpses is a bit worrying. But I don't know what scum would want with a corpse either.

My role even says every one will be highly suspicious of my townie nature

It leads me to think someone needed something from his body, someone was checking to see if his body was intact enough to infect (as we know next to nothing about the z-virus), or one of us is a dirty birdie.

I think she also jokingly said a zombie necropheliac, which may be nothing, or it may be showing she knows more about who was doing the poking than she's letting on. It was a back burner thought, but the fact that anyone outside a forensics guy is even close to our dead is unsettling.

I have nothing to do with the zombies!

Fear of outting a powerful townie. Strikes me as odd. And, at the time, it worked. We glossed it over. I think Mach was losing his mind during that time too, but that's possibly wrong.

There's variables that could explain why Gold has gone through what he's experienced. Not saying they're true, but possible. I can't, for the life of me, think of a single good reason someone would be prodding a dead man.

Now that you have outed me you better protect me!

Just clarifying the town wants to me to reveal who was playing with the dead body?

As I said I didn't know if someone like a forensic investigator still existed and I didn't want to out someone who could track mafia kills.

I'm happy to release the name but I want more that two people asking for it. The Necrophiliac zombie was a joke as I unfortunately unlike Aussie's shambling and stumbling I only got that I thought what the person was doing was strange.

I really wished you hadn't outed me I probably could have flown under the radar.

Besides, like Crychon said, we can protect a valued townie. Letting the zombie king roam free, when we had our sights on him would hurt ... a lot.

but that being said, it's time to put my cards on the table. see the next post!

[machinesxe]

Vote Change: Mistaken

[mistaken]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4269/lakesidegy3.jpg

Night Phase 1

They had left the hardware store confused to say the least. Would it get any clearer tonight?

---

He was not needed, yet. Soon, he kept thinking, soon. Unfortunately, that soon would never come. His death would hurt the people of Lakeside greatly.

---

She was lounging. I mean, who would touch her? Well, apparently someone, as a man snuck up behind her and covered her mouth. She could not scream.

---

Alright! Now was the time! Moving in on his poor target, he clapped his hand. The noise attracted his target's attention. Oh well, poor guy wouldn't be around long anyway.

-

Wallbanger is dead. He was Lakeside Aligned

infinitywpi is dead. He was Lakeside Aligned

Lostrelms is missing.



You are the Lakeside Aligned Corpse Robber.

with all the dead people lying around, I found a quick way to make a living, and most townies will find it hard to believe I can be part of the town and a Corpse robber.


But... I am, and

night 1... no one dead so I was useless

night 2 ... only two choices, because of the post i know one of the two dead is a needed townie, I investigated but infinitywpi, but found no information and nothing on the body

night 3 ... as verified i searched wallbangers body, and found and investigators kit, that I can use to get a list of people who might have killed the dead person

[mistaken]

I said i was a french vanilla townie, and I meant it!

with out semething being added I was nothing at all, i would have prefered to stay under the radar for 1 night so that i could prove my self.

now I have to ask you to trust me, with nothing to prove myself.

with one more night I could have proven who and what I was, and my value to the town.

[mistaken]

Vote Change: Mistaken

you've been calling for my lynch since day one.

Change Vote: No Vote

[petrija]

My role even says every one will be highly suspicious of my townie nature


You follow?

[mistaken]

You follow?

sorry I don't get the question,

if you are asking do i understand why you would be suspicious. yes, why on earth would a grave robber by a townie? the easy answer is "Lakeside doesn't bother to bury their dead" (paraphrased quote from one of my searches) so it's not like I have to dig them up, I'm just relieving the dead of what they no longer need.

and we need an forensic investigator and now I have the equipment to provide that service

[petrija]

sorry I don't get the question,

if you are asking do i understand why you would be suspicious. yes, why on earth would a grave robber by a townie? the easy answer is "Lakeside doesn't bother to bury their dead" (paraphrased quote from one of my searches) so it's not like I have to dig them up, I'm just relieving the dead of what they no longer need.

and we need an forensic investigator and now I have the equipment to provide that service

that's not what i was suggesting at all.

[mistaken]

that's not what i was suggesting at all.

then ...

[machinesxe]

you've been calling for my lynch since day one.

Change Vote: No Vote
It's funny you say that because now that I am caught up and have your repsonse I have pulled back. Your claim seems legit and accually very useful.

Change Vote:CyberKitten01

[petrija]

then ...

...It suggests millerness.

[machinesxe]

I hope this also shows if given enough reason to doubt my lynch happy mind set then I am willing to scale back and attack someone else.

[petrija]

something makes me think this isn't Mistaken's first time 'round.

[mistaken]

...It suggests millerness.

the scum will know the truth, (or atleast i assume they do :confused: )

So i am asking alot, way more than I should if i were just trying to get my neck off the line.

first I need you to not lynch me, and scum are going to want you to.

then I need protection tonight, as I just outed my self as a primary tool for detecting scum

Finnally I need you to believe that I got the right results.

and through all that I need to not end up role blocked, bus driven, abducted and of course killed.

[mistaken]

something makes me think this isn't Mistaken's first time 'round.

My hand to God, and ask every one here, I have never played in any game they have ever been in. and you can look at my post count and know this is not a new account.

[petrija]

the scum will know the truth, (or atleast i assume they do :confused: )

So i am asking alot, way more than I should if i were just trying to get my neck off the line.

first I need you to not lynch me, and scum are going to want you to.

then I need protection tonight, as I just outed my self as a primary tool for detecting scum

Finnally I need you to believe that I got the right results.

and through all that I need to not end up role blocked, bus driven, abducted and of course killed.

..I withdraw my last statement.
You really don't get it.
Assuming there's only one miller in the game.
...And YOU'RE it...
..Follow now?

[mistaken]

..I withdraw my last statement.
You really don't get it.
Assuming there's only one miller in the game.
...And YOU'RE it...
..Follow now?


now I'm acting denser than I think I really am, but no.

I thought Arrows was claiming to be the miller. (not really sure what a miller is)

Says, I'm Lakeside and thats' about what I know.

[petrija]

now I'm acting denser than I think I really am, but no.

I thought Arrows was claiming to be the miller. (not really sure what a miller is)

Says, I'm Lakeside and thats' about what I know.

Exactly.
If there's only one.
Arrows and you both can't be.

[mistaken]

Exactly.
If there's only one.
Arrows and you both can't be.

If I were the miller, why wouldn't i claim it, best i can tell it's a position that is neither town or scum. would seem far less threatening given what I am claiming I can do. Yet I still stand behind the fact I am town.

I would say check my alignment, (which you are more than welcome to do)

but I think the information i can return tomorrow is far more useful in proving my innocence. and would not be a waste of a role check. (seems a waste to me as I know I am town, may seem prudent to you.)

[petrija]

If I were the miller, why wouldn't i claim it, best i can tell it's a position that is neither town or scum. would seem far less threatening given what I am claiming I can do. Yet I still stand behind the fact I am town.

I would say check my alignment, (which you are more than welcome to do)

but I think the information i can return tomorrow is far more useful in proving my innocence. and would not be a waste of a role check. (seems a waste to me as I know I am town, may seem prudent to you.)

gjkhjfhasdfda.

A miller is someone with a town alignment who comes up scum when investigated.

Take a second, think about it.
Then come back and speak :p

[mistaken]

on a lighter note

Arrows 584
Midnightnick 579
petrija 249
Antithesis 213
GruntMark 205
Astil 190
The Archer 168
Prophet 157
Comradebot 153
mistaken 148

Petrija is creeping up on Arrows! :p

[petrija]

How do you know that the information you'll have tomorrow will be useful?

[mistaken]

gjkhjfhasdfda.

A miller is someone with a town alignment who comes up scum when investigated.

Take a second, think about it.
Then come back and speak :p


Do I know I am the miller if i am the miller?

[petrija]

Petrija is creeping up on Arrows! :p

I'm always creeping up on Him ;)

...Or is it the other way around?

...
...Arrows is definitely the creep.

[petrija]

It's usually hinted at.

I think this is the third time I've quoted this.
Come on, Man! :p


My role even says every one will be highly suspicious of my townie nature

[mistaken]

It's funny you say that because now that I am caught up and have your repsonse I have pulled back. Your claim seems legit and accually very useful.

Change Vote:CyberKitten01

I am begining to like your style, this would be much easier if you just lynched me as then you would know I am telling the truth. :D

down side you would be knowingly giving up the forensic kit to find out. but at least then you could rest easy in the knowledge that I was town and not a threat.

[mistaken]

It's usually hinted at.

I think this is the third time I've quoted this.
Come on, Man! :p

gotcha, I should not be so quick to say check my alignment.

here is my solution, and it's a dousy.

1) don't lynch me
2) protect me
3) track me and/or check my alignment
4) I target a given body, not going to say whose as I don't know what kind of shenanigans are out there for a dead bodies
5) tomorrow I give you my full results, as does the person tracking me
6) you weight the evidence of what i have provided against the evidence against me.
7) if at any point my facts don't line up and I came up scummy you lynch me

I don't think I am going to find a better ability on a dead body than what I've got, so I think keeping the forensic kit is in my and the towns best interest.

[Comradebot]

Very interesting...

I highly doubt there's multiple millers in the game, and, well... Mistaken just described a forensic investigator role to a tee. Either he did some serious research, or he's the real deal.

Change Vote: No Vote

And, again, my suspicion turns to Arrows, who sadly can't try and defend himself (or weasel his way out of a lynch, if he's scum).

But multiple millers? I'll believe it when I see it.

[mistaken]

How do you know that the information you'll have tomorrow will be useful?

If i get a list, it will be more useful than nothing.

and though I'm sure it is possible to pull a list out of thin air, hopefully with what we already know, there will be enough information to decide it's worth letting me live or lynching me.

but at least you won't have your friendly neighbor hood grave robber lynched, with out seeing if he really can moonlight as a forensic investigator.

[Bear]

I think that's less likely than MNN being scum from the start.

I'm starting to think that as well. It just tough to believe a day 1 bus.

Fine by me, milady. :D I know I'm town; if something goes wrong then there are definite shenanigans happening somewhere.

But what I received via PM and what he says do not mesh.

I'm fully aware of the risk I'm taking, but in this case I'm more than 87% confident that this is correct.

I'm weary about night Results after Music Mythology. I was so sure I caught Wallbanger, but he ended up being a god guy.

It's possible one of them is insane.

I doubt it would be Archer since he got a scum result on Arrows, who claims miller.

If MJD is insane, then the role has changed significantly from the previous game it was in. I would think there would likely be a clue in his role PM that might indicate that something happened to him between games. But I think MJD has said there is no such hint, so I don't know.

My role has changed dramatically. I'm not a mason and my power's different.

If the bus driving is like Grunt's, then its easy to tell from the PM. Fact that no one else has mentioned being busdriven aside from people targeted by Grunt pretty much insures that there isn't another bus driver in the game, don't you think?

2 bus drivers would be absolute chaos. However, a nexus would redirect a single target that targeted them. Plausible.

Sorry for the late reply, Fallout 3 New shiny and pretty.

I wasn't buying Mistaken's 'totally useless shiny town sale' and followed him.

I kept my distance, but watched Mistaken poking the corpse of Mr Wallbanger.

Now I don't now how many useless townie's do that...

With what he come forward with, I don't feel comfortable lynching him, especially if he can provide a list of possible killers tomorrow. I know of a big burly guy that can make sure we get those results.

The question now becomes where do we go from here?

Personally, I'd vote for Arrows if he were here. Graverobber stinks of miller. It's remotely possible to have two millers but I'd at least want every little juicy bit of info arrows could give.