Lakeside's Grand Finale (Mafia)

[blackphoenix]

Change Vot: No Vote

Okay enough with the silly buggers, I'll be studying for an exam and BJJing the rest of the day/night (8 + hours or so). BBL

Nargh

Change Vote: No Vote

[mistaken]

can some one enlighten me as to why the Aussie is picking up so many votes with out a concerted effort?

is this the mafia trying to build influence? or is there a semi-solid reason we should be changing our votes over Aussie?

[Midnightnick]

can some one enlighten me as to why the Aussie is picking up so many votes with out a concerted effort?

is this the mafia trying to build influence? or is there a semi-solid reason we should be changing our votes over Aussie?

My gut feeling. :cool:

My gut never lets me down, unless I have an autolynch.

[Arrows]

My gut feeling. :cool:

My gut never lets me down, unless I have an autolynch.

You still worry me. Just the way you stated it earlier. You're worried about how much of a threat Aussie is, and reference a game where he was town? Him being a threat as town, is reason enough to let him live.

[Midnightnick]

You still worry me. Just the way you stated it earlier. You're worried about how much of a threat Aussie is, and reference a game where he was town? Him being a threat as town, is reason enough to let him live.

Arrows. I say it every game when I worry you.

I rather worry you all game and be in the spotlight and prove my worth than go and be town and lay low, then suddenly get targeted by not talking much, and being painted up as scum.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I'd like to join a bandwagon or at least comment on one, but I have too many choices at the moment... :rolleyes:

I tend to go for bandwagons in big games and avoid them in small games, and this game is "big" in my mind.

However, the massive number of directions everyone is going in makes getting any info from such a lynch kind of impossible!

[Bear]

Vote: Bear

That's for you Bak. But to be fair, I was just a weak-minded Tweedle and had been under Jokers spell! He hit me with a boxing glove on a spring!

Change Vote: No Vote

[Antithesis]

For the people asking, I've been asleep most of the day today. That comes part and parcel with the cold/flu whatever its is I have thats making me hack and cough, runny nose/ splitting headache.

I may keep this site open in my browser, but I am often not at the computer. I know people are used to me posting a lot and when they see may name at the bottom they figure I must be hiding something.

My alignment is in blue, and my win condition is in black.

[The Aussie]

I wish I was Don again, just to post as freely as I wanted because. There'd be no way I could be Don again. :rolleyes:

But I'm town, and trust my gut guys.

Vote: The Aussie

I'm sticking to my guns.


Vote: Midnightnick


REVENGE!!!!

[The Aussie]

Let's not forget the Priest claim.

TBH; I think Wallbanger suggested it to me it's just that taker is damn lucky.:D

[Arrows]

For the people asking, I've been asleep most of the day today. That comes part and parcel with the cold/flu whatever its is I have thats making me hack and cough, runny nose/ splitting headache.

I may keep this site open in my browser, but I am often not at the computer. I know people are used to me posting a lot and when they see may name at the bottom they figure I must be hiding something.

My alignment is in blue, and my win condition is in black.

My alignment is in pink and yellow poke dots, and my win condition's in purple and gold pinstripes.:( Wanna trade?

[The Aussie]

You still worry me. Just the way you stated it earlier. You're worried about how much of a threat Aussie is, and reference a game where he was town? Him being a threat as town, is reason enough to let him live.
Remember, he was also scum in that game... same as with Undertaker666 and imarevenant and Cyberkitten01 and Glotnot and Mr T jobs to Me.

[Arrows]

Remember, he was also scum in that game... same as with Undertaker666 and imarevenant and Cyberkitten01 and Glotnot and Mr T jobs to Me.

We were worried about ya too, but not to the point of...yanno, me wanting to lynch you now because you're a talented townie. When you have a solid run as scum, I'll start worrying about needing to lynch you.

[The Aussie]

Remember, he was also scum in that game... same as with Undertaker666 and imarevenant and Cyberkitten01 and Glotnot and Mr T jobs to Me.
I can't forget about THe Shape either.

Notice how three of the ones that I have bought up are voting for me?

[Derek B]

My alignment is in pink and yellow poke dots, and my win condition's in purple and gold pinstripes.:( Wanna trade?

Totally! Mine is a delightful blue and orange mix, with a tan trim and furry shows on the bottom of all the capital letters. But I have to admit, I've got a thing for pink and yellow polka dots. :)

[Glotnot]

Remember, he was also scum in that game... same as with Undertaker666 and imarevenant and Cyberkitten01 and Glotnot and Mr T jobs to Me.

Rule of thumb: Glotnot is always scum.

Heroes? The Haitian. Hollywood Horror? Tobias Funke. Star Wars? Commander Cody. Dark Knight? Deathstroke the Terminator.

[Lostrelms]

Bound to have been one of us(Bear, Me, Shape, Rev..don't think Gonvick, or nZane killed.). We did 3/4ths of the work..lol. I know Anti didn't, he only made the Batman kill. When'd you die?..I'll let ya know who did it if it was one of us.:D

Grrr....


Change Vote: Antithesis!

[Imarevenant]

I can't forget about THe Shape either.

Notice how three of the ones that I have bought up are voting for me?


Oooohhh, that sounds like a swell game, hmmmm

Trypio, Mr T, and Crychon were all scum in the Star Wars game.

Notice that one of them has their vote on me, lynch him!!!!
:p

[Lostrelms]

Grrr....


Change Vote: Antithesis!

I swear, that was sooo totally not right by Anti!


I played a great game, if i do say so myself, and was like, totally kicking tail!


But that Ultra ditz Harley Quinn had to spoil it for me, that was so not even cool! Like, Seriously!

[Imarevenant]

My alignment is in pink and yellow poke dots, and my win condition's in purple and gold pinstripes.:( Wanna trade?


I'll consider it,however if I remember correctly your bartering attempts don't usually yield results.
:p

[ShadowedFlames]

Rule of thumb: Glotnot is always scum.

Heroes? The Haitian. Hollywood Horror? Tobias Funke. Star Wars? Commander Cody. Dark Knight? Deathstroke the Terminator.

Hmmm. The foil to Mr T(own) Jobs to Me, perhaps?

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 2 (GruntMark, mistaken)

midnightnick - 2(Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 2 (Wallbanger, cyberkitten01)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 2 (ShadowedFlames, Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

I hate you all. Please inform of any mistakes.

[Lostrelms]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 2 (GruntMark, mistaken)

midnightnick - 2(Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 3 (Lostrelms, Wallbanger, cyberkitten01)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 2 (ShadowedFlames, Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

I hate you all. Please inform of any mistakes.


Like, i Know im so TOTALLY Super Kewl and all, but i know i SOOOO dont have two votes!

Like, what would i do with them?

[Astil]

Like, i Know im so TOTALLY Super Kewl and all, but i know i SOOOO dont have two votes!

Like, what would i do with them?

Right-o.

[Derek B]

Bedtime for me now methinks. For the (un)lucky few who follow my BLW diary then the latest show has been posted. Any and all feedback welcome as I always get a disconcerting feeling when I don't receive anything in the way of negative feedback. Other than that, try not to lynch anyone while I'm gone... I know it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that we're going to spend the full first day phase grandstanding and joking around then the full first nightphase waiting for someone inactive to send in a role PM... but lets not rush it too much. Unless we get something good of course. :)

Night all!

Vote: Sleep!

[lprock]

A little late, but I made it none the less. Lets see what's been going on so far in the game.

[Lostrelms]

Bedtime for me now methinks. For the (un)lucky few who follow my BLW diary then the latest show has been posted. Any and all feedback welcome as I always get a disconcerting feeling when I don't receive anything in the way of negative feedback. Other than that, try not to lynch anyone while I'm gone... I know it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that we're going to spend the full first day phase grandstanding and joking around then the full first nightphase waiting for someone inactive to send in a role PM... but lets not rush it too much. Unless we get something good of course. :)

Night all!

Vote: Sleep!



Like, KB, Your all turtely and stuff! Like, have a good night!

[Comradebot]

Like, i Know im so TOTALLY Super Kewl and all, but i know i SOOOO dont have two votes!

Like, what would i do with them?

Like OMG, we should totally be BFF!!

Then we can SHARE that second vote!

[Lostrelms]

Like OMG, we should totally be BFF!!

Then we can SHARE that second vote!

OMG! BFF!

[Lostrelms]

OMG! BFF!

All my old BFF's Are like, dead and stuff, i SOO need a new one!

[Arrows]

And I'm the weird one?

[Glotnot]

Hmmm. The foil to Mr T(own) Jobs to Me, perhaps?

If so, Mr T is definitely scum this game. :p

[Lostrelms]

And I'm the weird one?

Like, Yeah! Your the ultra wierd-o with the funny looking thingie ma jig for an avatar!

[Imarevenant]

Like OMG, we should totally be BFF!!

Then we can SHARE that second vote!

OMG! BFF!


Chicks, Man. :rolleyes:

[Midnightnick]

Why does Lost get to talk like a teenage bimbo?

I could fit that role.

Princess Midnight, playing second fiddle to Queen Panix

[Lostrelms]

Chicks, Man. :rolleyes:

There are reasons i hate dww right now...

Like, OMG! Your such a hater!

[Prophet]

Chicks, Man. :rolleyes:

I have to admit, I get giddy for the Soup references. :D

[Comradebot]

All my old BFF's Are like, dead and stuff, i SOO need a new one!

We SOOOO need to totally hang out at the mall!

I saw this bag there that was, like, totally cute.

And you're not mean are you? Mean people suck. And goth kids. Why can't they, like, just be happy, ya know?

[The Aussie]

Why does Lost get to talk like a teenage bimbo?

I could fit that role.

Princess Midnight, playing second fiddle to Queen Panix
Was Doctor Dark your only non female/gay role so far?

[Lostrelms]

We SOOOO need to totally hang out at the mall!

I saw this bag there that was, like, totally cute.

And you're not mean are you? Mean people suck. And goth kids. Why can't they, like, just be happy, ya know?

Being goth is like, So emo....

I so know what you mean on Mean people tho!

OMG! I said mean twice, and it had like... double meanings and stuff...


OMG i did it again!...

[Midnightnick]

Was Doctor Dark your only non female/gay role so far?

Well, I was Dick The Bruiser back in DOTT Mafia, the Mailman in E-Ville, Captain Taggart in Hollywood Horror and Namor in Marvel.

For the most part though. I'm gay men or females.

(I include Elmer Fudd because he fell for Bugs Bunny so many times.)

[Arrows]

Lost, if that's seriously how you have to post, you make my feel so much better about my requirement.

[Lostrelms]

Lost, if that's seriously how you have to post, you make my feel so much better about my requirement.

Like, i promise you, i SO dont like dww right now!

[Lostrelms]

Like, i promise you, i SO dont like dww right now!

And like, while i', thinking about it, I so hope Petrija doesnt think i was making fun of her.. Because, like, Seriously, and stuff, this role is like.. What everrrrrrrrr!

[Midnightnick]

Like, i promise you, i SO dont like dww right now!

Mr. Bu-Fu, go and vote for The Aussie, trust me he'll be so blitzed.

I'm so sure. :cool:

[Lostrelms]

Mr. Bu-Fu, go and vote for The Aussie, trust me he'll be so blitzed.

I'm so sure. :cool:

Like, im still PMsing all over Antithesis's Face n stuff! he kille dme last game for like, no reason! i was like, SOO MAD!

But, if like, your gut is all cut and stuff, maybe we can like, ya know, Talk about it n stuff!

[Comradebot]

Well, I was Dick The Bruiser back in DOTT Mafia, the Mailman in E-Ville, Captain Taggart in Hollywood Horror and Namor in Marvel.

For the most part though. I'm gay men or females.

(I include Elmer Fudd because he fell for Bugs Bunny so many times.)

Atleast you weren't, like, an Ewok in a game.

Star Wars is SOOO lame, and I'll never watch it! I don't care how good it might be, because stuff in space is only for losers and nerds. (A girl actually once said that back in High School... no where near as hot as she thought she was).

And, ugh, I was the wife of Man-Bat in Gotham Mafia? It's like, DUH, I deserve a more important role than that!

But atleast before that I was Anton Chigurh (xoxo! OMG what a HOTTIE!) in Hollywood Horror, only to have that mean guy Sylar kill me. And idk if I've told you this, but imo mean people suck.

[Lostrelms]

Like, im still PMsing all over Antithesis's Face n stuff! he killed me last game for like, no reason! i was like, SOO MAD!

But, if like, your gut is all cut and stuff, maybe we can like, ya know, Talk about it n stuff!

Spelling, ARGH!

[Comradebot]

Spelling, ARGH!

My old BFF told me once, that like, white text is the new black!

Until I caught HER MAKING OUT WITH BRAD, who she knew that I TOTALLY liked! Oh well, I called her fat until she developed bulimia and ended up in a hospital, so we're even now. :D

[Midnightnick]

Like, im still PMsing all over Antithesis's Face n stuff! he kille dme last game for like, no reason! i was like, SOO MAD!

But, if like, your gut is all cut and stuff, maybe we can like, ya know, Talk about it n stuff!

You can see my muscles and everything, I'm cut for sure. my gut's plan is totally tubular you know? so bitchinnnnnn'

[Lostrelms]

My old BFF told me once, that like, white text is the new black!

Until I caught HER MAKING OUT WITH BRAD, who she knew that I TOTALLY liked! Oh well, I called her fat until she developed bulimia and ended up in a hospital, so we're even now. :D

Thats like, so MEAN!

[Lostrelms]

You can see my muscles and everything, I'm cut for sure. my gut's plan is totally tubular you know? so bitchinnnnnn'

Like no one talks like that anymore.. That went out in like, the 90's n stuff!

[Comradebot]

You can see my muscles and everything, I'm cut for sure. my gut's plan is totally tubular you know? so bitchinnnnnn'

Tubular is SO yesterday.

And a gut? Eww.

[Lostrelms]

My old BFF told me once, that like, white text is the new black!

Until I caught HER MAKING OUT WITH BRAD, who she knew that I TOTALLY liked! Oh well, I called her fat until she developed bulimia and ended up in a hospital, so we're even now. :D

OH! And like, OMG, Black is the New Pink... if your like Emo and stuff...

But Seriosly? i saw in TEEN magazine that like, WHite, is all out after labor day n stuff.. your supposed to wear eggshell, or some junk!

[Midnightnick]

I can't even maintain the valley girl talking style. jesus gag me with a spoon.

[Prophet]

Stupid me has to talk all normal and stuff, and not get to talk cool, and get noticed. So unfair!

[ShadowedFlames]

Oh, great. We've degenerated into fashion hour.

Great. [/sarcasm]

Change Vote: No Vote

Not going to leave a vote on someone while I sleep without documented scientific evidence, or something just as strange.

Shall return tomorrow; sleep and that evil thing called real life is pulling me away.

[Comradebot]

OH! And like, OMG, Black is the New Pink... if your like Emo and stuff...

But Seriosly? i saw in TEEN magazine that like, WHite, is all out after labor day n stuff.. your supposed to wear eggshell, or some junk!

I saw this Emo boy one time, and he TOTALLY looked like a girl.

It's, like, HELLO, cut your hair and build some muscles and maybe I'll think about talking to you.

[Lostrelms]

Tubular is SO yesterday.

And a gut? Eww.

Your avatar is like, Ultra creepy...

Its like, scaring me...

[Arrows]

Bah, slow down you bums. I gotta keep the post lead!

[Comradebot]

Your avatar is like, Ultra creepy...

Its like, scaring me...

What are you talking about? Boris Kiriyakin could TOTALLY make a woman out of me.

He's just so, you know, deep and misunderstood. And that hat? SO RETRO!

[Lostrelms]

Bah, slow down you bums. I gotta keep the post lead!

Like, what happens if you dont?

Do you go all zombie like and junk? that would be SOO COOL! as long as you dont like.. you know, mess up my hair trying to eat my brains or some junk!

[Comradebot]

Like, what happens if you dont?

Do you go all zombie like and junk? that would be SOO COOL! as long as you dont like.. you know, mess up my hair trying to eat my brains or some junk!

Being a zombie is SO not cool.

[Lostrelms]

What are you talking about? Boris Kiriyakin could TOTALLY make a woman out of me.

He's just so, you know, deep and misunderstood. And that hat? SO RETRO!

IDK, he just looks, creepy to me... Like you know, those guys that just stare at you, and dont say anything, because they are like intimidated by sum1 thats so hawt, you know? Its creepy! its like, just talk dude, or dont look at me!

[Arrows]

Like, what happens if you dont?

Do you go all zombie like and junk? that would be SOO COOL! as long as you dont like.. you know, mess up my hair trying to eat my brains or some junk!

Fairly certain nothing bad happens if I don't, but I'd much rather have what happens if I do.

[Midnightnick]

Like, what happens if you dont?

Do you go all zombie like and junk? that would be SOO COOL! as long as you dont like.. you know, mess up my hair trying to eat my brains or some junk!

Something tells me you don't have to worry about that last part. :rolleyes:

[Lostrelms]

Something tells me you don't have to worry about that last part. :rolleyes:

you DO realize it takes me like, 4 hours in the morning to get my hair done right? it would be SOO not cool to have some drooling zombie guy mess up my hair, i would totally go psycho on him if he did!

[Tha Black Phenom]

Shall return tomorrow; sleep and that evil thing called real life is pulling me away.

Oh, I'm sure you can fight it.

[Lostrelms]

you DO realize it takes me like, 4 hours in the morning to get my hair done right? it would be SOO not cool to have some drooling zombie guy mess up my hair, i would totally go psycho on him if he did!

So like, im going to go crawl into my bed and get some sleep...


DOn't go and like, hang anyone without me! id be so super depressed if someone died and i wasnt here to see if they were cute or not!

Ta!

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 2 (GruntMark, mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 2 (Wallbanger, cyberkitten01)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Imarevenant]

Lost you worry me, you might just be too good at the valley girl speech LOL

[Wallbanger]

Dear God in heaven, save me from The Beautiful People.

[blackphoenix]

Dear God in heaven, save me from The Beautiful People.

KONG! KONG! KONG! KONG!

And a Cheerleader Melissa curbstomp will make it all better.

[The Aussie]

Just so you all know; If I could kill you then I would, just for speaking like the stupid california people.

[Comradebot]

It REALLY hurt, but I totally thought this over, and Arrows seems SO conceited to say he needs to post more than everyone.

And it's like, DUH, something seems totally wrong about that. I think he's one of those mean people, and mean people suck.


Vote: Arrows

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 2 (GruntMark, mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 2 (Wallbanger, cyberkitten01)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 1 (comradebot)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

Do you realize how hard it is to update on a phone?!?

[Antithesis]

Vote: The Aussie

If he turns up scummy it gives us other leads to follow.

[Arrows]

It REALLY hurt, but I totally thought this over, and Arrows seems SO conceited to say he needs to post more than everyone.

And it's like, DUH, something seems totally wrong about that. I think he's one of those mean people, and mean people suck.


Vote: Arrows

Conceited?

I just like to hear myself talk. A little bit more than I wish I liked to hear myself talk, unfortunately.

[The Aussie]

Vote: The Aussie

If he turns up scummy it gives us other leads to follow.
Don't be silly. imarevenant, midnightnick and The Shape are all being petty because I was partially involved in their deaths last game (stupid town not lynching Shape when I had a damn perfect reason for them to do so)

[Antithesis]

Don't be silly. imarevenant, midnightnick and The Shape are all being petty because I was partially involved in their deaths last game (stupid town not lynching Shape when I had a damn perfect reason for them to do so)

Thats nice, and if my vote had anything to do with that I'd probably wouldn't go along with it.

I am looking more at who isn't voting on you and why that might be.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 2 (GruntMark, mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 5 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B, Antithesis)

petrija - 2 (Wallbanger, cyberkitten01)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 1 (comradebot)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[petrija]

Vote: petrija for being Iron Man

*Beams*

I'm the greatest.

[GruntMark]

Why do we want to waste a first day, classic risk vs reward bandwagon lynch on Aussie???

Oh yeah, Nick's "gut feeling" :rolleyes:

Give me a break. The only thing lamer than that is people voting on his "gut feeling" before Aussie even made a post.

Now, I dont know Aussie from Joe....

But in Comradebot wants to lynch Arrows...then Im for that.

Change Vote: Arrows

After all, he is better scum than Aussie.

And he so totally lied about the Penguin thing.

And as my best friend so often tells me, no one likes a liar.

[Antithesis]

change vote: Arrows

Actually, after thinking about it, I like this vote better.

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 1 (mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 2 (Wallbanger, cyberkitten01)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Imarevenant]

Don't be silly. imarevenant, midnightnick and The Shape are all being petty because I was partially involved in their deaths last game (stupid town not lynching Shape when I had a damn perfect reason for them to do so)

LOL, I think Freeze had more to do with my undoing than any townie, but that's just me.

[cyberkitten01]

*Beams*

I'm the greatest.

Rarr :D

Change Vote: No vote

Kids today, I can't believe the way they talk. If I hear the word 'like' out of context one more time... I'll do nothing.. And like it

Love meeeeeeee!!

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 1 (mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Prophet]

Vote: Treton

He beat me at TCW's last event! Kill'm, kill'm!

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 1 (mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[The Aussie]

LOL, I think Freeze had more to do with my undoing than any townie, but that's just me.
I do remember that you tried to kill me or another guy on the night that four people were frozen.

[trypio]

Oooohhh, that sounds like a swell game, hmmmm

Trypio, Mr T, and Crychon were all scum in the Star Wars game.

Notice that one of them has their vote on me, lynch him!!!!
:p

I haven't landed a mafia role since like forever. I've joined the Light Side of the force.

[The Shape]

Don't be silly. imarevenant, midnightnick and The Shape are all being petty because I was partially involved in their deaths last game (stupid town not lynching Shape when I had a damn perfect reason for them to do so)

which was? *shrug* They lynched me eventually, I wasn't just going to give up. And I'm not being petty, I thought midnight was hinting at something somehow someway :o

[mistaken]

not wanting to waste my vote, and still thinking the mafia is trying to vote influence first on Aussie, now on Arrows.

CHANGE VOTE: midnightnick


your bad feeling on the first page bothers me. and since you are aligned with shape, whos' talking to himself has me worried, I'm going with you.

[The Shape]

your bad feeling on the first page bothers me. and since you are aligned with shape, whos' talking to himself has me worried, I'm going with you.

:confused:

[Midnightnick]

not wanting to waste my vote, and still thinking the mafia is trying to vote influence first on Aussie, now on Arrows.

CHANGE VOTE: midnightnick


your bad feeling on the first page bothers me. and since you are aligned with shape, whos' talking to himself has me worried, I'm going with you.

I voted for Arrows?

I'm aligned with Shape?

What?

[blackphoenix]

Chill out new dude,

reality is that it's unlikely that anyone is going to get lynched today. Many of the votes are been thrown out in fun because most people at this point don't know much.

With 21 required to vote, no one is is threat of being lynched.

Things aren't usually so literally obvious in mafia...

[machinesxe]

VOTE:midnightnick

Like I said I am board and no one will vote for me so here goes...Let's move it along guys.

[Midnightnick]

Chill out new dude,

reality is that it's unlikely that anyone is going to get lynched today. Many of the votes are been thrown out in fun because most people at this point don't know much.

With 21 required to vote, no one is is threat of being lynched.

Things aren't usually so literally obvious in mafia...

The only successful day one lynches are Ya_Its_Me, Cappyboy and TobiasParker. :rolleyes:

And Machine, get behind my lynch if you're just going to vote for someone.

[Midnightnick]

The only successful day one lynches are Ya_Its_Me, Cappyboy and TobiasParker. :rolleyes:

And Machine, get behind my lynch if you're just going to vote for someone.

My lynch as in the one I'm rallying with my gut feeling.

Not my lynch as in the one voting me. :cool:

[blackphoenix]

The only successful day one lynches are Ya_Its_Me, Cappyboy and TobiasParker. :rolleyes:

And Machine, get behind my lynch if you're just going to vote for someone.

Or I is so new that I make silly mistake first day such as.. "is everyone else's title red?" or "I will roleclaim something insanely silly" or not new but just as lynchable "I'm deadpool and really really annoying."

[blackphoenix]

My lynch as in the one I'm rallying with my gut feeling.

Not my lynch as in the one voting me. :cool:

Lol... your on fire today MNN.. on fire.

[Midnightnick]

Or I is so new that I make silly mistake first day such as.. "is everyone else's title red?" or "I will roleclaim something insanely silly" or not new but just as lynchable "I'm deadpool and really really annoying."

I meant the lynches here BP. But Deadpool was an insane claim to make.

Speaking of which. Librarian will be in Music Mythology. You joining it as well BP?

[Midnightnick]

Lol... your on fire today MNN.. on fire.

I always go with my gut. It never lets me down. Unless I have direct power over a lynch.

I'm still repenting over the Namor mistake.

[mistaken]

My lynch as in the one I'm rallying with my gut feeling.

Not my lynch as in the one voting me. :cool:

I still don't understand why we should get behind your gut feeling? does your gut have some kind of prediction power? or is it predisposed toward indigestion when people who's name begin with an A are in the game?

does your gut have a track record I should be aware of?

[blackphoenix]

I meant the lynches here BP. But Deadpool was an insane claim to make.

Speaking of which. Librarian will be in Music Mythology. You joining it as well BP?

Yup... I first thought it was like Legends and I was all like I wanna be Joan Jett.

I have since decided now understanding the theme that I want to be jeremiah bullfrog

[Midnightnick]

I still don't understand why we should get behind your gut feeling? does your gut have some kind of prediction power? or is it predisposed toward indigestion when people who's name begin with an A are in the game?

does your gut have a track record I should be aware of?

I didn't try putting any suspicion on Arrows, so I don't know why my gut would have any ill will towards the Big A.

And my gut has stumbled onto more scum than it has town. Oh the joys of being a Vig and nailing all scum.

(If any of you are going wait what? It was at EWB. Perfect record of nailing scum in their Civil War mafia.)

Plus, when I second guess my gut. I'm almost always wrong.

[machinesxe]

The only successful day one lynches are Ya_Its_Me, Cappyboy and TobiasParker. :rolleyes:

And Machine, get behind my lynch if you're just going to vote for someone.
WTF? TOBIE WAS GOOD YOU HERB! NOW YOU DIE...LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!:mad:

[Midnightnick]

Yup... I first thought it was like Legends and I was all like I wanna be Joan Jett.

I have since decided now understanding the theme that I want to be jeremiah bullfrog

I wasn't positive that you joined, and was just checking. I hope you enjoy it. It's my first outing for running a game.

[Midnightnick]

WTF? TOBIE WAS GOOD YOU HERB! NOW YOU DIE...LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!:mad:

I was saying the only successful Day 1 lynches were them.

Not that they were successful scum day one lynches.

Only Cappy falls under that one.

[blackphoenix]

I wasn't positive that you joined, and was just checking. I hope you enjoy it. It's my first outing for running a game.

Sweet..

Or I could be Mama Cass's Sandwich.. the ultimate mafia bomb. Eat me and diiiieeeee...

[Midnightnick]

Sweet..

Or I could be Mama Cass's Sandwich.. the ultimate mafia bomb. Eat me and diiiieeeee...

Fun fact. She died on my birthday. woo~

[machinesxe]

I was saying the only successful Day 1 lynches were them.

Not that they were successful scum day one lynches.

Only Cappy falls under that one.

i GOT yA...
cHANGE VOTE:The Aussie

[blackphoenix]

Harleeeeeeeeeeeey!

and with that I'm off to bed. See you in a few hours fellas.

[Antithesis]

Chill out new dude,

reality is that it's unlikely that anyone is going to get lynched today. Many of the votes are been thrown out in fun because most people at this point don't know much.

With 21 required to vote, no one is is threat of being lynched.

Things aren't usually so literally obvious in mafia...

Actually, this amounting to a barebones game
town really needs to put up some kind of serious vote, because without character claims, voting patterns matter just that much more.

[The Shape]

I always go with my gut. It never lets me down. Unless I have direct power over a lynch.

I'm still repenting over the Namor mistake.

and yet still I follow your lead :eek:

[Midnightnick]

Actually, this amounting to a barebones game
town really needs to put up some kind of serious vote, because without character claims, voting patterns matter just that much more.

I couldn't say that any better Anti. That's why I'm trusting my gut at the moment. Why change my vote constantly if we have nothing to go on?

I suppose you could make the same argument about why people should listen to me, but. I feel strongly about this. Which is more than others can say.

[Midnightnick]

and yet still I follow your lead :eek:

It's because I'm still repenting. It's a show of good faith. :o

[mistaken]

Originally Posted by blackphoenix View Post
Chill out new dude,

reality is that it's unlikely that anyone is going to get lynched today. Many of the votes are been thrown out in fun because most people at this point don't know much.

With 21 required to vote, no one is is threat of being lynched.

Things aren't usually so literally obvious in mafia...
Actually, this amounting to a barebones game
town really needs to put up some kind of serious vote, because without character claims, voting patterns matter just that much more.

ok, back to the noob questions,

If I were mafia wouldn't the whole point of day 1 be two fold,

1) don't let the town lynch a mafia member
2) if at all possible convince the townies 'you have a gut feeling' and get them to lynch one of their own?

at this point you have two groups
a fully informed minority and an ignorant majority.

your goal is to keep the majority from exercising their power, and coerce a few of them into doing something stupid with out getting caught.

the town not getting together any lynching some one, seems like a waste of a day. even if we are wrong the voting patterns should reveal something.

or maybe as the noob I am way off base, and a fellow townie should set me straight.

[The Shape]

I suppose you could make the same argument about why people should listen to me, but. I feel strongly about this. Which is more than others can say.

You "felt strongly" before he'd even posted. Making that part of your point useless xD

[The Shape]

the town not getting together any lynching some one, seems like a waste of a day. even if we are wrong the voting patterns should reveal something.

or maybe as the noob I am way off base, and a fellow townie should set me straight.

Talking about voting patterns then still trying to play the noob card...ain't gonna hold up.

[Midnightnick]

ok, back to the noob questions,

If I were mafia wouldn't the whole point of day 1 be two fold,

1) don't let the town lynch a mafia member
2) if at all possible convince the townies 'you have a gut feeling' and get them to lynch one of their own?

at this point you have two groups
a fully informed minority and an ignorant majority.

your goal is to keep the majority from exercising their power, and coerce a few of them into doing something stupid with out getting caught.

the town not getting together any lynching some one, seems like a waste of a day. even if we are wrong the voting patterns should reveal something.

or maybe as the noob I am way off base, and a fellow townie should set me straight.

You're right about the Mafia being an informed minority, and the town being on whole an uninformed majority.

Of course, there's a chance of a mafia member that the mafia doesn't know about, or 2 or 3 townies that could talk to each other.

The way it usually boils down here is, we talk and talk until it winds up being a no lynch on day one.

Certain players like myself, don't like the concept of a no lynch on day one, and will always go for a lynch. I maintain this attitude ALWAYS. Town or scum, being a cop or a serial killer. No matter what. We have a large enough number of people to afford a mislynch.

Risk = Reward.

And I see how you're painting me as Mafia by saying my gut feeling is just a way to lynch town. Nope. I have no idea if Aussie is town or scum. My gut just tells me he's the one I'm going for on day one, instead of flopping my vote around to everyone else. Machine is also appearing quite scummy to me. But he seems to be encouraging people to vote him, so my vote stays still on Aussie.

[Midnightnick]

You "felt strongly" before he'd even posted. Making that part of your point useless xD

Well, nobody else is feeling strongly about any other person.

[Antithesis]

I couldn't say that any better Anti. That's why I'm trusting my gut at the moment. Why change my vote constantly if we have nothing to go on?

I suppose you could make the same argument about why people should listen to me, but. I feel strongly about this. Which is more than others can say.

TBH I dunno why people have a problem with your "gut". Most any reason is good for a day one wagon. I first voted on Aussie because
1) it seemed to have the most momentum
2) looked as though a couple of people were trying to cover for him.

I switched to Arrows because I think his Aussie argument amounts to this

(not my opinion but this is how I read it) Aussie is a bad scum player and will self destruct eventually...

ok

Thats nice, if true, but if he's scum there is no reason for us to wait before lynching him and if Aussie's town, if he's such a bad player, shouldn't we consider getting rid of him early?

[The Shape]

Well, nobody else is feeling strongly about any other person.

But that's ridiculous...saying you felt strongly about something when there was clearly no reason for you to have any feeling whatsoever isn't going to convince people at all, and you surely realise that. He pretty much ignored what was going on when he did show up etc etc so there is a case NOW, but when you stick to the nonsensical reasoning from before there's no chance pressure can mount.

[Midnightnick]

But that's ridiculous...saying you felt strongly about something when there was clearly no reason for you to have any feeling whatsoever isn't going to convince people at all, and you surely realise that. He pretty much ignored what was going on when he did show up etc etc so there is a case NOW, but when you stick to the nonsensical reasoning from before there's no chance pressure can mount.

He appeared. He didn't say anything to try to sway my gut feeling. My gut stays.

[mistaken]

Talking about voting patterns then still trying to play the noob card...ain't gonna hold up.

no card to play, when i get lynched out for doing something completely stupid my noob status will vindicate itself. (check my post history and you will find i have never posted in a Mafia game before)

as to voting patterns, you don't have to have mafia experience to know that what someone has done in the past provides information on who they might be and what they might do in the future.

and that if the mafia know this same secret, they are going to try and hide their actions so you must take that into account as well.

[Midnightnick]

no card to play, when i get lynched out for doing something completely stupid my noob status will vindicate itself. (check my post history and you will find i have never posted in a Mafia game before)

as to voting patterns, you don't have to have mafia experience to know that what someone has done in the past provides information on who they might be and what they might do in the future.

and that if the mafia know this same secret, they are going to try and hide their actions so you must take that into account as well.

You pick up fast Mistaken.

[Derek B]

no card to play, when i get lynched out for doing something completely stupid my noob status will vindicate itself. (check my post history and you will find i have never posted in a Mafia game before)

as to voting patterns, you don't have to have mafia experience to know that what someone has done in the past provides information on who they might be and what they might do in the future.

and that if the mafia know this same secret, they are going to try and hide their actions so you must take that into account as well.

If you are looking at voting patterns then remember to keep some detailed notes about them and everything else that seems like it might be important at some point. In my early games I kept detailed notes on everyone so that I could look back at my own thoughts aswell as their actions and it really helped me to pick out what was going on and where.

These days I think I'm better at recognising any tell tale signs of scumminess among the populace and try to trust my own gut instinct more rather than relying on notes. I just found they took up way too much time to organise with the amount of info I was jotting down but experience of playing mafia will help massively. I've still got some notes but only for key info rather than the massive amount of speculation that goes on in these games... trying to keep up with DJ, Arrows and Anti speculating a million and one different things just turns out to be a nightmare in the long run. :)

[infinitywpi]

*sigh*

Vote: no lynch

There is too much meta-conversation and not enough actual-game-conversation for my pea-sized brain to follow here.

[Derek B]

Aw man... I just realised that this day phase basically lasts 72 hours instead of the usual 48. :( I hate the first day, it's so rare that something useful happens so it always ends up in much talk about nothing. Since we're going to have a no lynch anyways, I'm just going to join infinity and smack my vote down where I'd usually put on Day 1 it given the chance.

Change Vote: No Lynch

If you hate Day 1 and the inevitable wait of a long Night 1 while at least one person fails to send in a PM, join me in this vote so we can get the game rolling. Otherwise we'll be doing this phase FOREVER...

[mistaken]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21

The Shape - 1 (mistaken)

midnightnick - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

this is the last official run down and I know votes have changed from this point.

my point is that even if every one on this list could be persuaded to vote in the same way, there are not enough votes here to lynch someone.

[Slim Jim]

You call THAT well put together? xD

Since I got that role, yes. Had anyone else got it I wouldn't have been so in favour of it :rolleyes: Though it isn't too powerful in the hands of someone that isn't really paying attention. I revealed one of the masons and a lover so far, and I think another fairly crucial role. I am on fire over there :D

Did you get to choose who, or...was it random..or what?

I get to choose, it would be horrendously over-powered in the hands of someone that was really into the game. As it is though, I zone out from all the talk of anime and then pick out random people that I want to reveal :p

Squeaky clean like a soap salesman?

Nooo... though I do like the mention of soap. But I'm not selling anything.

A little late, but I made it none the less. Lets see what's been going on so far in the game.

Boo. I can't ban you here.

I'm not sure yet if I love or hate Lost's posting requirement...

And I'm not feeling any of the current votes so in the interest of adding another name to the loooong vote count:

Vote: lprock

Random... honest :cool:

[Destiny]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST (3:00 PM GMT) Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21.

No Lynch - 1 (derek b)

midnightnick - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie, mistaken)

The Aussie - 5 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, Derek_B, machinesxe)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

cyberkitten01 - 1 (infinitywpi)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

Iprock - 1 (Slim Jim)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Derek B]

Seems I now have the power of 2 votes.... also, infinity's vote should probably be changed too although that would depend on how strictly the rules are being enforced. I know I caved in and changed votes even when they only said Vote: X instead of Cahnge Vote: X

[Bear]

Usually Midnight can be on to something with his gut, but the first game I modded, I saw that he can cause trainwrecks too. As long as we don't get too crazy, maybe we can at least get some info.

Vote: The Aussie

[Arrows]

Why do we want to waste a first day, classic risk vs reward bandwagon lynch on Aussie???

Oh yeah, Nick's "gut feeling" :rolleyes:

Give me a break. The only thing lamer than that is people voting on his "gut feeling" before Aussie even made a post.

Now, I dont know Aussie from Joe....

But in Comradebot wants to lynch Arrows...then Im for that.

Change Vote: Arrows

After all, he is better scum than Aussie.

And he so totally lied about the Penguin thing.

And as my best friend so often tells me, no one likes a liar.

So, because someone else wants to lynch me, you're all for it? Yep, I'm better scum than Aussie. Aussie's better town than I am. Makes us about even. Yep, I lied about the Penguin thing, same way IER lied about the Vince McMahon thing and got away with it for a bit.(IER, you really are like..my exact counter in these games:()

Thing is, if I'm town you're making a huge mistake, and if I'm scum you're making an excellent move. You have no way of knowing which I am except for the way I represent myself in THIS game.

Nor does Comrade, so following him blindly? Might not be the best of ideas.

[Arrows]

change vote: Arrows

Actually, after thinking about it, I like this vote better.

Why? What purpose is there to voting for me? I don't mind the votes, in fact, I welcome them. I know you can't get enough support to lynch me without evidence, and evidence is something you'll have a hard time finding this game, considering I'm town and all.

I find it odd that you, of all people, were so willing to simply throw down your vote on me, simply because you like it better. What do you expect to find out from me that could possibly help the town on day one? Me claiming anything more than I already have would do nothing but help the scum.

Care to explain yourself?

[Arrows]

Chill out new dude,

reality is that it's unlikely that anyone is going to get lynched today. Many of the votes are been thrown out in fun because most people at this point don't know much.

With 21 required to vote, no one is is threat of being lynched.

Things aren't usually so literally obvious in mafia...

I wouldn't really tell him to chill out. I'm happy to see that one of the new people is using their brains already, and capable of thinking for themselves. That gives me hope for the future of this game here.

I find it kinda scummy that some people were just, oh so willing, to throw a vote on me for no real reason except for the fact that I'm a good liar. Yet, at the same time, these people fail to mention all the times me being a liar has gotten the town handed a couple of things they wouldn't have had otherwise.

I lie more as a townie, than I do as scum. Everyone knows that. I'm a pathalogical liar, and I can't control it. Sometimes it works to the advantage of the side I'm on, and sometimes it doesn't.

Am I lying this time? Do I really have to have the most posts? Do I even get anything if I get them? Find out next week!

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST (3:00 PM GMT) Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21.

No Lynch - 2 (infinitywpi, derek b)

midnightnick - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie, mistaken)

The Aussie - 5 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, The Shape, machinesxe, bear)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

Derek_B - 2 (Arrows, Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

Iprock - 1 (Slim Jim)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

Thanks Destiny, I fixed it up too.

[Bear]

Astil, sir, please gimme a write-up on DBZ!

[Arrows]

TBH I dunno why people have a problem with your "gut". Most any reason is good for a day one wagon. I first voted on Aussie because
1) it seemed to have the most momentum
2) looked as though a couple of people were trying to cover for him.

I switched to Arrows because I think his Aussie argument amounts to this

(not my opinion but this is how I read it) Aussie is a bad scum player and will self destruct eventually...

ok

Thats nice, if true, but if he's scum there is no reason for us to wait before lynching him and if Aussie's town, if he's such a bad player, shouldn't we consider getting rid of him early?

I have a LOT more respect for Aussie than I let on to. As town, I feel like he's a solid addition. I'd love to be in a mason group with the guy someday to really see how his mind works. If he's town, I want him around.

I'm not willing to risk a solid townie, because someone's gut tells them he's scum. Aussie's never avoided a major fubar when scum. It's only a matter of time. If someone finds out he's non-town via investigation or whatever, then we lynch him. Until then, why would we throw away someone?

That'd be like lynching DJ, Taker, Banger, Outlaw, Derek, Me, Shape, Anti, the list goes on, and on, and on. It'd be like lynching one of us day one, because we've been good scum. Surely we're far more of a threat than the guy responsible for "The Aussie Expirement" and "The Aussie FUBAR" as scum.

OH, wait. There are already people trying to lynch me for being scum in the past. Logic? Meet window. Now, leave?

[Arrows]

Change Vote: Bak42

What? If people can vote for be for silly reasons, I can vote for him because he did a good job as town and I'm scared he'll do the same as scum, right?

[mistaken]

arrow dude, have you ever filled a whole page with just your responses?

not judging just asking :cool:

[Imarevenant]

I do remember that you tried to kill me or another guy on the night that four people were frozen.

Nope, I targeted Taker to kill, you targeted me, for either an investigation or kill. And we, The Gotham Mafia, planned that second freezing so that the town would have to waste a day actually lynching me.

By then it was pretty well obvious I was Scarecrow, due to the missing gasings the night Freeze first froze me and the the night Bigjosh stole my ability.




which was? *shrug* They lynched me eventually, I wasn't just going to give up. And I'm not being petty, I thought midnight was hinting at something somehow someway :o

/nod




I still don't understand why we should get behind your gut feeling? does your gut have some kind of prediction power? or is it predisposed toward indigestion when people who's name begin with an A are in the game?

does your gut have a track record I should be aware of?


Honestly, a "gut feeling" is usually more than we have on day 1. What I find more telling is that when a few votes dropped on Aussie, his only response was to deflect everything on to the people voting for him.

Hell, he could have rightfully argued that having a "gut feeling" that someone is scum before they have even posted on day 1, is pretty ridiculous. But instead he tried to deflect attention onto myself, Shape, and MNN because we were scum in the last game?

Anyway, I didn't really think a Aussie bandwagon would go anywhere, but based off his response to a few votes, he looks scummier than anyone else so far this phase to me. /shrug

[Astil]

Astil, sir, please gimme a write-up on DBZ!

I can't computer got taken away.

[The Shape]

Change Vote: lprock

Every bit as random as slim's ;)

[The Shape]

I'm not willing to risk a solid townie, because someone's gut tells them he's scum. Aussie's never avoided a major fubar when scum. It's only a matter of time. If someone finds out he's non-town via investigation or whatever, then we lynch him. Until then, why would we throw away someone?

It's not like it's anywhere near a lynch or the deadline though. Surely it's better to pressure someone who IF scum is MORE likely to slip and give us a successful lynch, than simply sit around waiting for it to happen of its own accord?

[Arrows]

arrow dude, have you ever filled a whole page with just your responses?

not judging just asking :cool:

I have a good reason for posting as much as I am. Usually I would multi-quote, but that's counter productive.

[mistaken]

Nope, I targeted Taker to kill, you targeted me, for either an investigation or kill. And we, The Gotham Mafia, planned that second freezing so that the town would have to waste a day actually lynching me.

By then it was pretty well obvious I was Scarecrow, due to the missing gasings the night Freeze first froze me and the the night Bigjosh stole my ability.






/nod







Honestly, a "gut feeling" is usually more than we have on day 1. What I find more telling is that when a few votes dropped on Aussie, his only response was to deflect everything on to the people voting for him.

Hell, he could have rightfully argued that having a "gut feeling" that someone is scum before they have even posted on day 1, is pretty ridiculous. But instead he tried to deflect attention onto myself, Shape, and MNN because we were scum in the last game?

Anyway, I didn't really think a Aussie bandwagon would go anywhere, but based off his response to a few votes, he looks scummier than anyone else so far this phase to me. /shrug

cutting off arm to learn it hurts is a valid method to learn. as long as I've got a good chance of finding out that I had cancer of the hand.

so if you are willing to follow Midnightnick and lynch Aussie, I will change my vote as well. if for no better reason than to see how Aussie Responds to going up to 7 votes.

[Bear]

I can't computer got taken away.

THEN DAMMIT GIMME MY NIGHT RESULTS AND AN AUTO LYNCH. we're so close it's killing me.

[UFC-KING]

Alright, I'm off for work, be back to see the hundreds of pages that will await me when i return XD

[The Rock 13]

Vote: Iprock

*In progress of thinking for a reason.*

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST (3:00 PM GMT) Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21.

No Lynch - 2 (infinitywpi, derek b)

midnightnick - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie, mistaken)

The Aussie - 4 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, machinesxe, bear)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

Derek_B - 1 (Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

Iprock - 3 (Slim Jim, The Shape, the rock 13)

bak42 - 1 (Arrows)


Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Slim Jim]

Fairly sure it's a lowercase L in lprock's name. Believe it is "Linkin Park Rock", rather than a declaration that he urinates boulders. <- bad name-based pun!

And won't more people join us in voting for lp... purely randomly, of course :cool:

[bak42]

Change Vote: Bak42

What? If people can vote for be for silly reasons, I can vote for him because he did a good job as town and I'm scared he'll do the same as scum, right?

That's going to be kind of hard to do considering I'm town again.

[The Shape]

In fairness, lprock is like the anti-aussie. does nothing but cause mass confusion and annoyance when town, but by the same token proves rather useful when scum (and when he lasts beyond day one =D)

However we should maybe given him a chance to change such assertions, it'd be a shame if random voting ruined his big shot :cool:

[Slim Jim]

lprock does nothing but cause mass confusion and annoyance

Would have sufficed.

[The Shape]

I also feel we should inform people that in a game he modded elsewhere, he gave someone a role where they automatically killed themself night one and couldn't win.

Indeed, he is an evil genius.

Change vote: The Aussie

[mistaken]

I also feel we should inform people that in a game he modded elsewhere, he gave someone a role where they automatically killed themself night one and couldn't win.

Indeed, he is an evil genius.

Change vote: The Aussie

that's just wrong!

[Antithesis]

Change Vote: Bak42

What? If people can vote for be for silly reasons, I can vote for him because he did a good job as town and I'm scared he'll do the same as scum, right?

I never said you were my vote was on you because I belive you are a threat as scum, in fact, its rather easy to tell when you are scum
1) Did he survive past night three
2) is he bulletproof/PGO/Hider

If yes to #1 and no to #2 Arrows is Scum. :)

My problem with you is

Your argument about AUssie, you amend to say he's a keeper when town aligned.
Great.
When exactly, did you learn he was town aligned.. I mean, to the degree you spoke up for him? To me, you arent one to speak up for people unless you know something.

There's that and there seems to be two sides breaking over you and Aussie. Probably a coincidence, but up to this point, there's nothing else to follow up on.

[The Shape]

that's just wrong!

The same game ended prematurely when some mafia guy outed all of his allies because people started voting for him.

Slim, Glot, lp, TBP, Rock13 and I truly are the lunatics that escaped the asylum :o

Or at least are allowed out of it now and again *shrug*

[The Shape]

forgot blode from the list, not sure if he's playing xD

[Antithesis]

What do you expect to find out from me that could possibly help the town on day one?

Care to explain yourself?

There is another reason.. assuming you are town. If you think about it, its worth the effort, I believe.

[Arrows]

I never said you were my vote was on you because I belive you are a threat as scum, in fact, its rather easy to tell when you are scum
1) Did he survive past night three
2) is he bulletproof/PGO/Hider

If yes to #1 and no to #2 Arrows is Scum. :)

My problem with you is

Your argument about AUssie, you amend to say he's a keeper when town aligned.
Great.
When exactly, did you learn he was town aligned.. I mean, to the degree you spoke up for him? To me, you arent one to speak up for people unless you know something.

There's that and there seems to be two sides breaking over you and Aussie. Probably a coincidence, but up to this point, there's nothing else to follow up on.

I'm not taking up for Aussie, actually. I just don't want to lynch the guy for no good reason. I'm a kind hearted soul deep down, and I very rarely like lynching anyone without good reason.

The rare exception to that being.....TJ. I'd vote for him day 1, every game, ever. If I had an auto lynch, I'd waste it on him day 1. If I had a night kill, I'd kill him night 1, as has been proven. If I had a day kill he'd be gone day 1. Heck, I even told you guys if I wound up on the same team as him in Marvel I was throwing him under the bus.

Outside of those rare people that just piss me off though? I don't want anyone to be out of the game, day one, without getting to enjoy themselves, just because someone's gut doesn't like them. I'd be pissed if everyone decided to lynch me just because of a gut feeling and I had to sit around waiting for the next game. So would you.

[Arrows]

There is another reason.. assuming you are town. If you think about it, its worth the effort, I believe.

You want to know more about me?

I have a four part role.

Want me to continue? If you really want me to go ahead and say everything day one, I'll be more than happy to, then you can lynch me, and I can say I told ya so.

[The Shape]

I'd be pissed if everyone decided to lynch me just because of a gut feeling and I had to sit around waiting for the next game. So would you.

Well if he's town, there'd always be the replacement list...and as the last game proved that can be lots of fun =D

[Arrows]

Oh, by the way. I survived past night 3 in Gotham without being any of the other 3, and I wasn't aligned with anyone until day 4.

I survived until close to end game in Star Wars, and I was the town vig.

That isn't always true.

[The Shape]

You want to know more about me?

I have a four part role.

Want me to continue? If you really want me to go ahead and say everything day one, I'll be more than happy to, then you can lynch me, and I can say I told ya so.

I *think* what he's saying is a lot simpler on that.

[The Shape]

*simpler THAN

[Astil]

Well if he's town, there'd always be the replacement list...and as the last game proved that can be lots of fun =D

You're welcome.

[The Shape]

You're welcome.

I like to think -I- did YOU a favour :o

This time, however... =D

[Antithesis]

I *think* what he's saying is a lot simpler on that.

Given his response I think he knows what I mean.

[The Shape]

Given his response I think he knows what I mean.

I still have an idea what you do, but I'm not sure what he means xD

[machinesxe]

Come on guys...Let's end today NOW and VOTE FOR ME!!!

Do you want a waste of space hanging around the town, do you want someone who plans to be a distraction to the town? Well if you said no to either one of the questions I dare you to vote for me.... Hell I dare you to kill me tonight...:)

[aikmitt822]

Well I live in Tampa, so Rays fever has caught on and has been the reason I haven't contributed, which I'm sorry for. I've got the day off work so for the next few hours I can be on here before tailgating/the game.

After reading through Canadian Bacon (which was best with John Candy) and apparently everyones alignment being a teenager girl...I can't draw any conclusions about who is scum, but it is day one, and normally that's just a guess and check system anyways, at least in the games I've played elsewhere before. I do love how active this is though, better chance for the bad guys to slip up, even though you guys all are pretty experienced.

Anyways, it's better to lynch anybody than nobody, so I'll put a vote on...

VOTE: UFC-KING

My reasoning? I hate UFC, and he doesn't have a vote on his name. Hooray for logic.

[cyberkitten01]

Such a long phase! :eek: I'm sure someone will out themselves by then to get some action going

[The Shape]

Such a long phase! :eek: I'm sure someone will out themselves by then to get some action going

Nice of you to volunteer :D

[machinesxe]

Such a long phase! :eek: I'm sure someone will out themselves by then to get some action going
Cyber....Are you just ignoring me? I outted myself a long time ago....something like 10 pages ago... VOTE FOR ME!

[mistaken]

Cyber....Are you just ignoring me? I outted myself a long time ago....something like 10 pages ago... VOTE FOR ME!

that is the most masterful stroke i know to survive day 1, does it still work on day 2?

[machinesxe]

that is the most masterful stroke i know to survive day 1, does it still work on day 2?

I don't care if it works..Cause I promise what goes around comes around.....Ler my time end now. Let it end tonight...IDC if it ends in 3 days either way if you push you will be pushed back....But hey Vote for me!

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST (3:00 PM GMT) Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21.

No Lynch - 2 (infinitywpi, derek b)

midnightnick - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie, mistaken)

The Aussie - 5 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, machinesxe, bear, The Shape)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

Derek_B - 1 (Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

lprock - 2 (Slim Jim, the rock 13)

bak42 - 1 (Arrows)

UFC-KING - 1 (aikmitt822)


I'll be around to count votes for the next 3 or 4 hours.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Derek B]

D-Dub-Dub, I Was just wondering if you could answer a question... why is this first day phase so long? We started on Tuesday and it lasts 72 hours... considering it's so rare for anything to happen on the first day phase since there isn't any info, why is the phase so long? It's frustrating, I've got a week off and most of it is going to see me watching this thread impatiently waiting for nothing to happen. :(

[Arrows]

Given his response I think he knows what I mean.

You got a question you wanna ask? Ask. I can assure you however, the answer will only help the bad guys.

[d_w_w]

D-Dub-Dub, I Was just wondering if you could answer a question... why is this first day phase so long? We started on Tuesday and it lasts 72 hours... considering it's so rare for anything to happen on the first day phase since there isn't any info, why is the phase so long? It's frustrating, I've got a week off and most of it is going to see me watching this thread impatiently waiting for nothing to happen. :(

I think Astil wanted to make sure that people knew the game was going on.

[Derek B]

*sigh* I'm sure most people would notice the moment they got their role PMs. Anyone who doesn't pay attention to those is hardly going to notice the entire game if the day phase lasts the extra 24 hours. I know nothing can be done but I get frustrated on the first day phase... so much talking but nothing really happening. It's the only part of the game I don't enjoy... except during forum wars of course, we had elections do worry about then. :)

[Arrows]

*sigh* I'm sure most people would notice the moment they got their role PMs. Anyone who doesn't pay attention to those is hardly going to notice the entire game if the day phase lasts the extra 24 hours. I know nothing can be done but I get frustrated on the first day phase... so much talking but nothing really happening. It's the only part of the game I don't enjoy... except during forum wars of course, we had elections do worry about then. :)

Those were fun. You really shoulda been the first one elected too.

[Comradebot]

You got a question you wanna ask? Ask. I can assure you however, the answer will only help the bad guys.

So we shouldn't ask questions because it'll help you out, eh? Interesting.

I still find it, like, totally hard to believe that you, a person who is usually very secretive, suddenly is forced into talking more than anyone else. Either its irony, a coincidence, or a huge lie.

My gut says lie, and its a helluva lot more of a gut feeling than Midnightnick's about a person who hasn't posted yet.

[Comradebot]

I mean, who HADN'T posted yet at the time, duh.

[GruntMark]

So, because someone else wants to lynch me, you're all for it? Yep, I'm better scum than Aussie. Aussie's better town than I am. Makes us about even. Yep, I lied about the Penguin thing, same way IER lied about the Vince McMahon thing and got away with it for a bit.(IER, you really are like..my exact counter in these games:()

Thing is, if I'm town you're making a huge mistake, and if I'm scum you're making an excellent move. You have no way of knowing which I am except for the way I represent myself in THIS game.

Nor does Comrade, so following him blindly? Might not be the best of ideas.

Im not "all for it" just because someone else wants to lynch you. Dont flatter Comradebot like that.

But, I do believe Nick has the right approach for the first day phase. However, this time, his application of it, frankly sucks. If the town is going to pick from the list of 40 names and choose one to string up without any real gathered evidence, then it needs to weigh that decision on some other potential. You play better scum than Aussie, I dont think that is in doubt to anyone. If we are going to gamble on the life of a townie, then we MUST go for the biggest potential reward. It would be foolish to settle for anything less.

Someone should hang today. We establish a voting record, and save all the investigative types some leg work tonight.

I fail to see an arguement for why we shouldnt both accomplish that and try try to nail a major scummie like yourself.

[petrija]

I find it kinda scummy that some people were just, oh so willing, to throw a vote on me for no real reason except for the fact that I'm a good liar.

I lie more as a townie, than I do as scum. Everyone knows that. I'm a pathalogical liar, and I can't control it. Sometimes it works to the advantage of the side I'm on, and sometimes it doesn't.

Am I lying this time?

Not really.
I doubt it. You lie all the time, so I don't think one time is outweighed by another.
...Probably.
:P

I also feel we should inform people that in a game he modded elsewhere, he gave someone a role where they automatically killed themself night one and couldn't win.


That's absolutely hilarious.

[Arrows]

So we shouldn't ask questions because it'll help you out, eh? Interesting.

I still find it, like, totally hard to believe that you, a person who is usually very secretive, suddenly is forced into talking more than anyone else. Either its irony, a coincidence, or a huge lie.

My gut says lie, and its a helluva lot more of a gut feeling than Midnightnick's about a person who hasn't posted yet.

*Shrugs* Am I lying?

Comrade, what do you know about me?

Secretive?

CVerse 2, I outted myself quick. I even celebrated the deaths of two townies openly in the thread because it made me entirely unkillable at night. I was town.

DotT1, I outted myself as Steamboat quick.(Day..2?) I also became the voice of a mason group because I have a big ego and like to be the center of attention. That and I was more willing to let myself die than Wallbanger, who I think's a far more valuable player than I am.

Star Wars, I was the voice behind the Jedi Council by the end of day one. I was obviously town.

I even outted myself as THE PENGUIN. I am FAR from a secretive person.

I am NEVER entirely lying, but I'm rarely ever telling the whole truth. You think I'm scum because I'm talking more than usual? If you could see my role PM, you'd know exactly why I'm talking so much. Heck, I'm taking close to 10 breaks a day at work just so I can keep my post count up.

[infinitywpi]

Well, that's 24 votes, we have enough for a majority. Now we just need to focus them.

C'mon, people, if it's not a serious vote, it's not worth making...

[Comradebot]

Im not "all for it" just because someone else wants to lynch you. Dont flatter Comradebot like that.

But, I do believe Nick has the right approach for the first day phase. However, this time, his application of it, frankly sucks. If the town is going to pick from the list of 40 names and choose one to string up without any real gathered evidence, then it needs to weigh that decision on some other potential. You play better scum than Aussie, I dont think that is in doubt to anyone. If we are going to gamble on the life of a townie, then we MUST go for the biggest potential reward. It would be foolish to settle for anything less.

Someone should hang today. We establish a voting record, and save all the investigative types some leg work tonight.

I fail to see an arguement for why we shouldnt both accomplish that and try try to nail a major scummie like yourself.


OMG, right? If we lynch someone today based on that risk=reward stuff, we totally need to string up whoever might be the biggest threat as being a mean person (who suck).

The Aussie may not be BAD at being scum (I wouldn't know, personally), but he's far from the worst. Part of the reason also for going for Arrows is because even IF he's town he'll be unlikely to give information when pushed, leading to him being believed to be scum anyone, not to mention he is totally creepy when he's evil (and in general).

Plus, no one should have to talk more than anyone else, that just doesn't make sense. What if you have a really, REALLY busy day at the spa, and you just can't find the time to post? You'll get in trouble for real life preventing you from being at the computer 24/7 like some kind of virgin? Puh-leeze!

[Arrows]

Not really.
I doubt it. You lie all the time, so I don't think one time is outweighed by another.
...Probably.
:P



That's absolutely hilarious.

I'm a far better liar than you think I am, little one. I claimed Al Pacino, and The Penguin, and didn't get lynched either time.

I actually do lie more when I'm town. Look back at DotT 1, where I claimed I could watch, investigate, protect, be bulletproof, and do like..SIX other things.

I could do...1.

The lies did keep Banger alive though.

By the way, I have yet to lie in this game.

Or was that a lie?

[petrija]

I'm a far better liar than you think I am, little one. I claimed Al Pacino, and The Penguin, and didn't get lynched either time.

I actually do lie more when I'm town. Look back at DotT 1, where I claimed I could watch, investigate, protect, be bulletproof, and do like..SIX other things.

I could do...1.

The lies did keep Banger alive though.

By the way, I have yet to lie in this game.

Or was that a lie?

Sure You want to tell me that?
...Your face is a lie!
...ohburn.

[aikmitt822]

I'm not a fan of long day ones either, especially with this many players. Everything is just a guessing game and gut feelings, until we get through a night phase we won't have any info to look at.

That being said, I'm against a complete no lynch day one. This is my first game here so I don't know peoples playing styles and who is better than who, but I wouldn't be opposed to singling out a potentially strong scum player and going with it opposed to just sitting here for days not doing anything.

So let me take my meaningless vote off here...

Unvote: UFC-King

[machinesxe]

Well, that's 24 votes, we have enough for a majority. Now we just need to focus them.

C'mon, people, if it's not a serious vote, it's not worth making...

hEY HeY mE Me!!! oVER hEer i WaNT vOTes!!! mE vOTE 4!!!

[petrija]

I'm not a fan of long day ones either, especially with this many players. Everything is just a guessing game and gut feelings, until we get through a night phase we won't have any info to look at.


If by gut feelings, you're referring to MNN, I don't think you mean gut feelings at all.

[aikmitt822]

If by gut feelings, you're referring to MNN, I don't think you mean gut feelings at all.

As I have no idea what MNN, that is not what I'm referring to.

[Midnightnick]

As I have no idea what MNN, that is not what I'm referring to.

I'm the only one with a gut feeling. :rolleyes:

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 1. With 40 remaining you have until 10:00 AM EST (3:00 PM GMT) Friday October 24th to reach a majority of 21.

No Lynch - 2 (infinitywpi, derek b)

midnightnick - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, The Aussie, mistaken)

The Aussie - 5 (midnightnick, Imarevenant, machinesxe, bear, The Shape)

petrija - 1 (Wallbanger)

Derek_B - 1 (Crychon)

Imarevenant - 1 (trypio)

Antithesis - 1 (Lostrelms)

Tha Black Phenom - 1 (UFC-King)

Arrows - 3 (comradebot, GruntMark, Antithesis)

Treton - 1 (Prophet)

lprock - 2 (Slim Jim, the rock 13)

bak42 - 1 (Arrows)

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[machinesxe]

stop Ignoring Me!!! Vote For Me!!!

[Comradebot]

I'm a far better liar than you think I am, little one. I claimed Al Pacino, and The Penguin, and didn't get lynched either time.

I actually do lie more when I'm town. Look back at DotT 1, where I claimed I could watch, investigate, protect, be bulletproof, and do like..SIX other things.

I could do...1.

The lies did keep Banger alive though.

By the way, I have yet to lie in this game.

Or was that a lie?


Also, Arrows is all too often a condecending ass. Honestly, I don't trust his apparent role at all, and the threat of him being scum is too great.

But if nothing else, it'd be nice to play a game without him calling anyone else "little one".

And FOR THE RECORD, the ONLY reason you didn't get lynched while being The Penguin is because there were other scum present who posed a far greater threat than you! Freeze was destroying our ability to lynch, The Joker could kill multiple people, and then at the end we found out Harley might be able to kill bulletproof people! And when your time to step up and get lynched came, what happened? You asked djthefunkchris to spare your life.

So don't come in here spouting BS about how you played The Penguin to perfection, because you didn't. You lucked out by being less of threat than allllll the other scum left, and as a result you can now claim you weren't lynched based on the technicallity of you surrendering.

[aikmitt822]

I'm the only one with a gut feeling. :rolleyes:

Ahhh...those damn abbreviations screwing with my head. I almost didn't even notice it after I stared at your user name for half a minute. I blame video game violence.

[Midnightnick]

Ahhh...those damn abbreviations screwing with my head. I almost didn't even notice it after I stared at your user name for half a minute. I blame video game violence.

It's cool. I'm the only Nick in this game, this time around, so just say Midnight or Nick everyone.

[Comradebot]

Ahhh...those damn abbreviations screwing with my head. I almost didn't even notice it after I stared at your user name for half a minute. I blame video game violence.

I blame people using too many damn abbreviations. Its like that episode of The Office when Michael Scott calls everyone into the conference room and goes "CriManSqua, FNC Double Time!"

And Nick's isn't as obvious as most, as Midnightnick is all one word with just that one capitalization.

[Midnightnick]

I blame people using too many damn abbreviations. Its like that episode of The Office when Michael Scott calls everyone into the conference room and goes "CriManSqua, FNC Double Time!"

And Nick's isn't as obvious as most, as Midnightnick is all one word with just that one capitalization.

If I had a way to change my name, I'd change it to what I have at Astil's site and EWB.

Huss Delgado.

[GruntMark]

I'm the only one with a gut feeling. :rolleyes:

Congratulations.

You had a bad burrito or something for lunch yesterday. :rolleyes:

[aikmitt822]

I blame people using too many damn abbreviations. Its like that episode of The Office when Michael Scott calls everyone into the conference room and goes "CriManSqua, FNC Double Time!"

And Nick's isn't as obvious as most, as Midnightnick is all one word with just that one capitalization.

I didn't even see Nick in the Midnightnick name...glancing at it I thought it was Midnightrick...Midnight Trick...blah, whatever, we got an Office reference in the game so all is good.

[Midnightnick]

Congratulations.

You had a bad burrito or something for lunch yesterday. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: I'm actually dying of hunger right now.

[Imarevenant]

OMG, right? If we lynch someone today based on that risk=reward stuff, we totally need to string up whoever might be the biggest threat as being a mean person (who suck).

The Aussie may not be BAD at being scum (I wouldn't know, personally), but he's far from the worst. Part of the reason also for going for Arrows is because even IF he's town he'll be unlikely to give information when pushed, leading to him being believed to be scum anyone, not to mention he is totally creepy when he's evil (and in general).



Don't want to be sticking my neck out for Arrows, because I don't know his role and can't positively say he's town aligned. But I will say, you must not have played with Arrows much, because a Townie Arrows does not hold back information that could help the town from what I've seen.

As for his merits; as Town, he's definitely shown capable of leading the town to a win. As Scum, he's definitely dangerous enough to lead scum to a win.

[Midnightnick]

Don't want to be sticking my neck out for Arrows, because I don't know his role and can't positively say he's town aligned. But I will say, you must not have played with Arrows much, because a Townie Arrows does not hold back information that could help the town from what I've seen.

As for his merits; as Town, he's definitely shown capable of leading the town to a win. As Scum, he's definitely dangerous enough to lead scum to a win.

Yeah, I've never seen Arrows hold back information that would aid the town when he's town.

Or when killing scum is a priority in general (I.E Marvel).

[Comradebot]

Don't want to be sticking my neck out for Arrows, because I don't know his role and can't positively say he's town aligned. But I will say, you must not have played with Arrows much, because a Townie Arrows does not hold back information that could help the town from what I've seen.

As for his merits; as Town, he's definitely shown capable of leading the town to a win. As Scum, he's definitely dangerous enough to lead scum to a win.

No, I haven't played with Arrows much... this is only my fourth game, and he only played in the last one, so I've been going with how I felt he played last game.

But, like, look at it like this: If he's capable of outting himself early and still help lead the town to victory, wouldn't that be better than ignoring him and hoping he's not scum and leading them to victory?

And, personally, even if he SO got killed over it, I think there's more than enough people who've emerged who are capable of leading the town as well, assuming that he is. Risk=reward. Losing a solid townie would be far less disastrous that potentially letting a gamebreaking bad guy live.

[Midnightnick]

No, I haven't played with Arrows much... this is only my fourth game, and he only played in the last one, so I've been going with how I felt he played last game.

But, like, look at it like this: If he's capable of outting himself early and still help lead the town to victory, wouldn't that be better than ignoring him and hoping he's not scum and leading them to victory?

And, personally, even if he SO got killed over it, I think there's more than enough people who've emerged who are capable of leading the town as well, assuming that he is. Risk=reward. Losing a solid townie would be far less disastrous that potentially letting a gamebreaking bad guy live.

Because it isn't always smart to out yourself so early, especially if you have a powerful role. That screams for the scum to get you, and wastes all the protection power to be used on the one player. Which in turn the scum will realize and go for other targets who would normally be protected.

And yes, Risk = Reward.

But only calculated risk or acceptable risk.

Not risk for the sake of risk.

Example. If an investigation night 1 shows someone as scum.

We lynch. They wind up as town. That's a calculated risk because we weren't going to know if they were conned, or an insane cop or what.

If someone were to propose a lynch on someone "confirmed" as town, due to an incredibly offchance of them being the don or reverse conned? That's a risk for the sake of risk, and goes out of the comfort zone of acceptability.

[Midnightnick]

Because it isn't always smart to out yourself so early, especially if you have a powerful role. That screams for the scum to get you, and wastes all the protection power to be used on the one player. Which in turn the scum will realize and go for other targets who would normally be protected.

And yes, Risk = Reward.

But only calculated risk or acceptable risk.

Not risk for the sake of risk.

Example. If an investigation night 1 shows someone as scum.

We lynch. They wind up as town. That's a calculated risk because we weren't going to know if they were conned, or an insane cop or what.

If someone were to propose a lynch on someone "confirmed" as town, due to an incredibly offchance of them being the don or reverse conned? That's a risk for the sake of risk, and goes out of the comfort zone of acceptability.

It's all about risk assessment.

[Imarevenant]

No, I haven't played with Arrows much... this is only my fourth game, and he only played in the last one, so I've been going with how I felt he played last game.

But, like, look at it like this: If he's capable of outting himself early and still help lead the town to victory, wouldn't that be better than ignoring him and hoping he's not scum and leading them to victory?

And, personally, even if he SO got killed over it, I think there's more than enough people who've emerged who are capable of leading the town as well, assuming that he is. Risk=reward. Losing a solid townie would be far less disastrous that potentially letting a gamebreaking bad guy live.


See what you did Midnight. Risk=Reward has caught on, and now it's the cliche of choice around here.

:p

Risk=Reward can also be looked at like this Comrade.


Risk: Keeping Arrows around even though he's dangerous when scum. Reward: A townie Arrows can help lead the town to a win.

or

Risk: lynching Arrows even though he can be a powerful townie.
Reward: getting lucky and lynching dangerous scum.


But here is the deal, there is absolutely nothing to indicate that by lynching Arrows we'd get the reward of lynching powerful scum. And as for ignoring Arrows? I don't see that happening at all. I'm pretty sure in a game this size, that there are watchers, trackers, investigators, role blockers etc etc. I'm sure at least one of them will have their eye on him. It's what happens when you have a reputation of being a good player; you're going to get investigated somehow sooner rather than later.

So, to recap, I'm against lynching someone just because they have played well as scum in the past, give me a more solid reason and I'll be for it though.


Like a "gut" feeling lol

[Midnightnick]

See what you did Midnight. Risk=Reward has caught on, and now it's the cliche of choice around here.

:p

Risk=Reward can also be looked at like this Comrade.


Risk: Keeping Arrows around even though he's dangerous when scum. Reward: A townie Arrows can help lead the town to a win.

or

Risk: lynching Arrows even though he can be a powerful townie.
Reward: getting lucky and lynching dangerous scum.


But here is the deal, there is absolutely nothing to indicate that by lynching Arrows we'd get the reward of lynching powerful scum. And as for ignoring Arrows? I don't see that happening at all. I'm pretty sure in a game this size, that there are watchers, trackers, investigators, role blockers etc etc. I'm sure at least one of them will have their eye on him. It's what happens when you have a reputation of being a good player; you're going to get investigated somehow sooner rather than later.

So, to recap, I'm against lynching someone just because they have played well as scum in the past, give me a more solid reason and I'll be for it though.


Like a "gut" feeling lol

Hey, Risk = Reward is my motto, it's how I play. Go big or don't go at all. I mean, I'm an impact player.

And what you said Arrows is exactly how I feel about him. If he's scum. He's scum and we'll find him. If he's town? We have a powerful ally to help us.

I have the utmost respect for him as a player, even if he is feeling weary about me and my persecution of Aussie.

[Arrows]

Im not "all for it" just because someone else wants to lynch you. Dont flatter Comradebot like that.

But, I do believe Nick has the right approach for the first day phase. However, this time, his application of it, frankly sucks. If the town is going to pick from the list of 40 names and choose one to string up without any real gathered evidence, then it needs to weigh that decision on some other potential. You play better scum than Aussie, I dont think that is in doubt to anyone. If we are going to gamble on the life of a townie, then we MUST go for the biggest potential reward. It would be foolish to settle for anything less.

Someone should hang today. We establish a voting record, and save all the investigative types some leg work tonight.

I fail to see an arguement for why we shouldnt both accomplish that and try try to nail a major scummie like yourself.

A MAJOR SCUMMY?

QUICK!

ANYONE HERE!

Name one time I ACTUALLY won a game, as scum, that I was alive in?

I didn't win the game I claimed Al Pacino in, though I was declared a winner. I didn't meet my win conditions that were later revoked.

I have NEVER won a scum game on GDS. I have won ONE game with this crowd on another forum(I died night 1 that game, and was of no help to my team at all.)

I have won ONE game as a cult leader elsewhere.

That's in, how many games?

How the hell am *I* a major scummy, when guys like Derek and Nick are running around?

[Comradebot]

It's all about risk assessment.

Isn't that what I did, assess the risk? Yeah, it's a day 1 gamble. What are the odds of Arrows being scum compared to Arrows being a very critical member of the town?

And if Arrows is a critical member of the town, maybe he shouldn't draw attention to himself by being so abrasive. I understand that IF he actually has to post more than anyone else, that he's going to draw attention to himself and there's nothing that can be done about that. But that doesn't mean he can't control what he posts. If he's a critical townie, then maybe he shouldn't be talking down to people and flaunting his ability to claim scum and survive along with his other accomplishments.

Just my thoughts on it, and I still think he's a far better choice than your "gut feeling" on The Aussie.

[Midnightnick]

Isn't that what I did, assess the risk? Yeah, it's a day 1 gamble. What are the odds of Arrows being scum compared to Arrows being a very critical member of the town?

And if Arrows is a critical member of the town, maybe he shouldn't draw attention to himself by being so abrasive. I understand that IF he actually has to post more than anyone else, that he's going to draw attention to himself and there's nothing that can be done about that. But that doesn't mean he can't control what he posts. If he's a critical townie, then maybe he shouldn't be talking down to people and flaunting his ability to claim scum and survive along with his other accomplishments.

Just my thoughts on it, and I still think he's a far better choice than your "gut feeling" on The Aussie.

Aussie: Medicore Player, knows what he's doing though. Won't be a town leader really. Worth the risk of a mislynch? Yes.

Arrows: Talent, nothing but. If town, he can successfully lead. If scum? he can successfully destroy. Worth the risk of a mislynch? No.

[Midnightnick]

A MAJOR SCUMMY?

QUICK!

ANYONE HERE!

Name one time I ACTUALLY won a game, as scum, that I was alive in?

I didn't win the game I claimed Al Pacino in, though I was declared a winner. I didn't meet my win conditions that were later revoked.

I have NEVER won a scum game on GDS. I have won ONE game with this crowd on another forum(I died night 1 that game, and was of no help to my team at all.)

I have won ONE game as a cult leader elsewhere.

That's in, how many games?

How the hell am *I* a major scummy, when guys like Derek and Nick are running around?

Point taken. I mean, I'm town in this game, a departure from the other Lakesides and my general nature, but if anything. I'd be more weary of me than Arrows.

I'm being honest.

[Arrows]

Also, Arrows is all too often a condecending ass. Honestly, I don't trust his apparent role at all, and the threat of him being scum is too great.

But if nothing else, it'd be nice to play a game without him calling anyone else "little one".

And FOR THE RECORD, the ONLY reason you didn't get lynched while being The Penguin is because there were other scum present who posed a far greater threat than you! Freeze was destroying our ability to lynch, The Joker could kill multiple people, and then at the end we found out Harley might be able to kill bulletproof people! And when your time to step up and get lynched came, what happened? You asked djthefunkchris to spare your life.

So don't come in here spouting BS about how you played The Penguin to perfection, because you didn't. You lucked out by being less of threat than allllll the other scum left, and as a result you can now claim you weren't lynched based on the technicallity of you surrendering.

I'm not an ass unless I'm pushed to be one.

I call her little one because that's my nickname for her. She's 5'2. I'm 6'1. She's my little one, and she'll be more than happy to admit to it. If you've got a problem with that, you can bite me.

Now, as far as condencinding ass goes. It seems to me like YOU, are the one jumping down MY throat, for no reason. Maybe you need to back off, just a little bit, before I show you what it's like to play this game where I come from. I don't have a problem being banned from these games just like THT was, and trust me, I can be FAR more of an ******* when I'm pushed to it.

You do NOT want to get on my bad side, so back the **** off of me before it's too late to take it back.

I try to be nice, and this is what I get?

First I get called a whiner for correcting someone else's mistakes, then I've got some guy who doesn't even know me insulting me? Why don't you people check your baggage at the door, because you're apparantly still carrying some over past games.

[Arrows]

Isn't that what I did, assess the risk? Yeah, it's a day 1 gamble. What are the odds of Arrows being scum compared to Arrows being a very critical member of the town?

And if Arrows is a critical member of the town, maybe he shouldn't draw attention to himself by being so abrasive. I understand that IF he actually has to post more than anyone else, that he's going to draw attention to himself and there's nothing that can be done about that. But that doesn't mean he can't control what he posts. If he's a critical townie, then maybe he shouldn't be talking down to people and flaunting his ability to claim scum and survive along with his other accomplishments.

Just my thoughts on it, and I still think he's a far better choice than your "gut feeling" on The Aussie.

YOU ARE PUSHING ME TO BE ABRASIVE.

I'm trying to keep my post count up, play nice, and explain things. I'm questioning people I feel need to be questioned about things they say. I'm trying to have a little bit of fun, and I called MY girlfriend a nickname I have for her.

That's lead YOU to jumping down my throat. When did I talk down to ANYONE?

Hell, I'm even putting AUSSIE over as a value player, and I'm not even really friends with the guy. Don't even know him outside of these games.

[The Shape]

Putting aside the handbags for a moment...I don't doubt that Arrows has to meet some sort of posting requirement.

Howeeeever, I can think of ways that could be used to benefit people on both sides of the fence ;)

[Comradebot]

I'm not an ass unless I'm pushed to be one.

I call her little one because that's my nickname for her. She's 5'2. I'm 6'1. She's my little one, and she'll be more than happy to admit to it. If you've got a problem with that, you can bite me.

Now, as far as condencinding ass goes. It seems to me like YOU, are the one jumping down MY throat, for no reason. Maybe you need to back off, just a little bit, before I show you what it's like to play this game where I come from. I don't have a problem being banned from these games just like THT was, and trust me, I can be FAR more of an ******* when I'm pushed to it.

You do NOT want to get on my bad side, so back the **** off of me before it's too late to take it back.

I try to be nice, and this is what I get?

First I get called a whiner for correcting someone else's mistakes, then I've got some guy who doesn't even know me insulting me? Why don't you people check your baggage at the door, because you're apparantly still carrying some over past games.


I love how you instantly jump to threats. What's really the worst you can do on a message board? Get me sucked into a pissing contest? Get my (townie) character lynched?

I'll be honest: Yeah, you rub me the wrong way, but it has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting to lynch you. I'm here to play a game and win, not settle some pointless personal squabble.

And next time you want to try and be nice, maybe you shouldn't threaten someone the moment they say something negative about you.

[The Shape]

I love how you instantly jump to threats. What's really the worst you can do on a message board? Get me sucked into a pissing contest? Get my (townie) character lynched?

I'll be honest: Yeah, you rub me the wrong way, but it has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting to lynch you. I'm here to play a game and win, not settle some pointless personal squabble.

And next time you want to try and be nice, maybe you shouldn't threaten someone the moment they say something negative about you.

What, like, happened to the you know, posting style?

[Comradebot]

What, like, happened to the you know, posting style?

I totally don't have time for that when someone is being a TOTAL hater, ya know? Like, whatever, I'm moving on.

[Midnightnick]

What, like, happened to the you know, posting style?

I thought Comrade was like, copying? the totally stellar posting of that lostrelms guy? you know he used to be all big and evil back in the axis of evil, but like omg. he isn't now.

[Comradebot]

I thought Comrade was like, copying? the totally stellar posting of that lostrelms guy? you know he used to be all big and evil back in the axis of evil, but like omg. he isn't now.

OMG, probably because I TOTALLY started this trend, duh! He's just someone who LOVED my style.

[The Shape]

Anyway I'm off for a bit. Tempted to switch to machinesxe buuut...I'll keep my vote on Aussie, I don't like how he acted when he WAS around and if midnight you start mentioning that etc, people might get on board =D

[cyberkitten01]

Drama!! :eek:

[Astil]

Due to activity on the thread and the complaints of many ... some ... Derek, I have started to consider shorting day 1 to 48 hours. Any questions or comments should be PM'd to Astil.

Also, play nice.

[machinesxe]

Anyway I'm off for a bit. Tempted to switch to machinesxe buuut...I'll keep my vote on Aussie, I don't like how he acted when he WAS around and if midnight you start mentioning that etc, people might get on board =D

Don't be tempted....JUST DO IT!!!!

[mjdgoldeneye]

I really don't see day 1 going anywhere... I can't find where I left off because every page is the same junk!

Normally I wouldn't do this, as time is always something the town can use, but we're running in circles.

Vote: No Lynch

If someone can manage to come up with a logical reason to go about lynching someone (as opposed to a dozen odd people voting on another dozen odd people) I'll change my mind... :D

[Midnightnick]

Don't be tempted....JUST DO IT!!!!

Machine. I'll make you a deal. You help with convincing of voting Aussie, then next day phase we'll all vote you. :cool:

[mistaken]

CHANGE VOTE: NO Lynch

if we can't decide, or manage the numbers to perform a lynch lets just move on.

[Midnightnick]

CHANGE VOTE: NO Lynch

if we can't decide, or manage the numbers to perform a lynch lets just move on.

We still have over 24 hours to decide on a lynch target.

No need to rush a No Lynch.

If a no lynch were to happen, I rather it happen due to the time limit of the day phase.

Not a vote.

[Derek B]

Due to activity on the thread and the complaints of many ... some ... Derek, I have started to consider shorting day 1 to 48 hours. Any questions or comments should be PM'd to Astil.

Also, play nice.

Hooray!! The sooner we can get on with the exciting part of the game the better. No-one really wants me to try and lead the town to a successful no lynch, no matter how many games I try it in. :D

[mistaken]

We still have over 24 hours to decide on a lynch target.

No need to rush a No Lynch.

If a no lynch were to happen, I rather it happen due to the time limit of the day phase.

Not a vote.

if he drops to 48 hours, then about 18 hour remain,that aside.

Total votes represent barley enough to lynch, and most of those have declared they want their vote to be random.

I maybe wrong, but if i were mafia i would not be pushing a fellow member under the bus on day 1, so there clearly are not enough townies active to perform a lynching. (even assuming a 2-1 ratio)

so if the townies aren't organized and the only one the mafia is going to throw under the bus is another townie, then the townies and mafia might as well agree to disagree, vote no lynch and move on with death.

the only person who wants to be voted for, machinesxe. has a death wish which i must assume is part of his character. and by my guess he gets gains some how by getting us to vote for him. or he is a master mind and his strategy is to make himself so annoying we won't vote for him on prinicpal.

[Midnightnick]

if he drops to 48 hours, then about 18 hour remain,that aside.

Total votes represent barley enough to lynch, and most of those have declared they want their vote to be random.

I maybe wrong, but if i were mafia i would not be pushing a fellow member under the bus on day 1, so there clearly are not enough townies active to perform a lynching. (even assuming a 2-1 ratio)

so if the townies aren't organized and the only one the mafia is going to throw under the bus is another townie, then the townies and mafia might as well agree to disagree, vote no lynch and move on with death.

the only person who wants to be voted for, machinesxe. has a death wish which i must assume is part of his character. and by my guess he gets gains some how by getting us to vote for him. or he is a master mind and his strategy is to make himself so annoying we won't vote for him on prinicpal.

Well, the fact that Aussie appeared whilst votes were on him, and he didn't even notice is worth checking out, and pressing for info. A vote for a no lynch is a vote for ignorance Mistaken.

[treton]

Vote: Treton

He beat me at TCW's last event! Kill'm, kill'm!

Well, if you took the win when you had it, you would of won, but you just had to hurt me some more hah.

I was going to randomly vote someone, because I believe everyone should atleast get one random vote against them, but since you all want to be serious I guess I won't.:(

[nZane]

I'm not too crazy about the original reasoning behind this bandwagon, but I'm even less crazy about Aussie's response to it, so might as well add to the pressure a bit.

Vote: The Aussie

[mistaken]

Well, the fact that Aussie appeared whilst votes were on him, and he didn't even notice is worth checking out, and pressing for info. A vote for a no lynch is a vote for ignorance Mistaken.

I will cede your point if you can actually orchestrate a lynching or something approaching one.

But if no one gets Lynched, then we may well have wasted 18 hours, we could simply have used to move on.

[Midnightnick]

I will cede your point if you can actually orchestrate a lynching or something approaching one.

But if no one gets Lynched, then we may well have wasted 18 hours, we could simply have used to move on.

And if you go to vote for a No Lynch right now, that means you are essentially forfeiting the want to learn anything.

My proposal for a lynch is gaining momentum.

When Aussie was here before. He ignored any votes on him and went on his merry way.

You can't just think it'll all be a waste mistaken.

[nZane]

I will cede your point if you can actually orchestrate a lynching or something approaching one.

But if no one gets Lynched, then we may well have wasted 18 hours, we could simply have used to move on.Aussie now has six votes. Yours could make seven, which would put him one-third of the way to a lynch. Seems like that could be considered "approaching one" to me.

And I'll go ahead and echo the sentiments of MNN here that voting for a no lynch with time left in the opening day phase is a waste.

[mistaken]

And if you go to vote for a No Lynch right now, that means you are essentially forfeiting the want to learn anything.

My proposal for a lynch is gaining momentum.

When Aussie was here before. He ignored any votes on him and went on his merry way.

You can't just think it'll all be a waste mistaken.

and what should he have done?

come in proclaimed how your 'gut feeling' is wrong, and how this is a witch hunt, with no merit? no, no really I am Lakeside.....

If he knows you can't get 21 votes, why bother giving you any more information than you already have....none.

[GruntMark]

Because it isn't always smart to out yourself so early, especially if you have a powerful role. That screams for the scum to get you, and wastes all the protection power to be used on the one player. Which in turn the scum will realize and go for other targets who would normally be protected.

And yes, Risk = Reward.

But only calculated risk or acceptable risk.

Not risk for the sake of risk.

Example. If an investigation night 1 shows someone as scum.

We lynch. They wind up as town. That's a calculated risk because we weren't going to know if they were conned, or an insane cop or what.

If someone were to propose a lynch on someone "confirmed" as town, due to an incredibly offchance of them being the don or reverse conned? That's a risk for the sake of risk, and goes out of the comfort zone of acceptability.


Then we should still lynch him.

As you have pointed out, a few times now, Arrows is such an amazing town player that if he is town, scum are sure to night kill him pretty soon before he leads us all to victory. Unless we waste protection on him.

Looks like a push me.

But good job pointing that out to them.

And there is no way you can be making a truly calculated risk on Aussie. He is a competent enough town player that if he is holding one of the key town roles, he'll succeed with it. You just dont have all the facts to make that call.

What we do know, is our tradeoff in killing Arrows is about balanced between good scum player and good town player. Whereas its lopsided for Aussie, against our favor.

Risk a good town for maybe killing a good scum?

Or risk a pretty good townie for killing a piss poor scum.

Such a hard call. :rolleyes:

[Derek B]

Don't listen to him mistaken, midnight is an evil scum overlord... just like I once was! I got better though... in the sense of not being evil now, rather than getting better at being scum... :cool:

What I'm trying to say, is stick to your guns if that's what you want to do. Don't be swayed into thinking one way because people want you to go that way. I acknowledge that me saying that is a viewpoint I'm trying to persuade you towards... but don't just go with the flow unless you really think it's the right thing to do. You'll play a better game if you go with your own instincts rather than listening to everyone else, at least that's what I found in my first game. Nailed scum first night, couldn't persuade anyone to lynch him so I used my one shot kill to take him out. Hi Crychon! :)

If the Aussie lynch builds above 12 votes while I'm still awake then I'll consider adding my vote to the pressure. Otherwise I'm just going to leave it where it is for now since that's the results we're most likely to reach and I really want to get into the meat of this game rather than watch us all stew.

Mmm.... meat stew... *drools*

[mistaken]

Aussie now has six votes. Yours could make seven, which would put him one-third of the way to a lynch. Seems like that could be considered "approaching one" to me.

And I'll go ahead and echo the sentiments of MNN here that voting for a no lynch with time left in the opening day phase is a waste.

nZane you get to 10 and I will sign on as number 11, my prediction still stands though, the only person who can be lynched with the current number of participants is a townie.

(if those who have not voted yet show up, this will not necessarily hold true)