Lakeside's Grand Finale (Mafia)

[iMac]

And yet why would mac try to?

I believe anti is townie and he had a big day yesterday to help us get the lynch, therefore I figured he would be a target last night. And hey ho, I was right.

[supermareo]

interesting, i also visited anti last night, however i heard no loud bangs or saw any people with guns i simply saw anti pacing about and enough to make out that he's (she in terms of the character) not evil

[The Shape]

I believe anti is townie and he had a big day yesterday to help us get the lynch, therefore I figured he would be a target last night. And hey ho, I was right.

Well it looks like a good job actually, I figured he'd be bulletproof but well...it sure is confusing. Agree with anti's last post.

[The Shape]

interesting, i also visited anti last night, however i heard no loud bangs or saw any people with guns i simply saw anti pacing about and enough to make out that he's (she in terms of the character) not evil

Yeah, don't see why you'd investigate him either.

[supermareo]

Barring some revelation it looks like I hired the mafia killer to protect me. :eek:

seems that way, though im concerned with a recruitment turning up now

[Antithesis]

The poem...

Second Stanza

Hung without mercy,
One final plight,
He could have been spared had he seen the light


The Write Up

He walked towards his target. After some brief words, the man saw the brilliance, and joined his side.

Brilliance.. Light...

Possibly connected?


Also, as the Mafia killer was male (least last night phase)

This male recruiter recruited a male.

Only females left in the game I know are TBP and myself.

[iMac]

Barring some revelation it looks like I hired the mafia killer to protect me. :eek:

How ironic :p

[The Shape]

interesting, i also visited anti last night, however i heard no loud bangs or saw any people with guns i simply saw anti pacing about and enough to make out that he's (she in terms of the character) not evil

Any of the others got any hints at mareo being there?

eg.) where did you look etc?

[Antithesis]

Damn.. did everyone target me last night? hehe

[supermareo]

Yeah, don't see why you'd investigate him either.

theres a don out there, dons come up town, anti came up town at this point im suspicious of everyone especially someone who bribes people to protect them

[The Shape]

Possibly connected?

Before there was a hint about prayers and so on but I thought it a red herring, however at this moment I'm leaning towards mareo being scum. Lynch arrows obviously, then deal with the recruiter from then on...

[The Shape]

theres a don out there, dons come up town, anti came up town at this point im suspicious of everyone especially someone who bribes people to protect them

ssssh scum :P

[iMac]

interesting, i also visited anti last night, however i heard no loud bangs or saw any people with guns i simply saw anti pacing about and enough to make out that he's (she in terms of the character) not evil

I think it's pretty suspicous if both me and Anti heard the loud noises you didn't. My PM mentions I made a really loud noise that echoed all over. Strange how you didn't hear it.

[supermareo]

ssssh scum :P

not scum, no

as for weather anyone saw me at antis :shrug: you'll have to ask them all i know is i walked upto 'the rather nice house' and 'looked throught the window' saw nothing other than anti pacing about

[Arrows]

You all will notice there was no kill last night...

I hired Arrows, who took the money.

However, according to my pm, as I tried to go to sleep, there was some loud noises outside.

I went out in the morning and Arrows was gone (first time I've ever had a pm saying my guard left me)

So Arrows wasn't gonna protect me huh?

From what I got, I took the money and hung around for a while. You fell asleep, and I started hearing shots. I kept hearing them. Had to be like..FOUR people. I bounced, before I got shot, thinking someone was coming after me.

That's paraphrasing my role PM.

Evidentally whoever's killing, was trying to take you out last night, because I don't see how I would've survived it. iMac's protection must've caught the killer, and it made more sense to have the protector do the protecting than the weak charlatan.

That's my guess, at least. Sorry I can't be of more help.

[Arrows]

not scum, no

as for weather anyone saw me at antis :shrug: you'll have to ask them all i know is i walked upto 'the rather nice house' and 'looked throught the window' saw nothing other than anti pacing about

I think it's weird you saw him pacing about and my PM specifically says he fell asleep.

[supermareo]

I think it's pretty suspicous if both me and Anti heard the loud noises you didn't. My PM mentions I made a really loud noise that echoed all over. Strange how you didn't hear it.

and i find it strange that anti was wide awake and pacing in my pm and yet when the loud nosies where hear he was trying to go to sleep, gosh you dont actualy think that i might of visited earlier in the evening do you:rolleyes:

[Arrows]

theres a don out there, dons come up town, anti came up town at this point im suspicious of everyone especially someone who bribes people to protect them

Nice way to try and divert it onto Anti here.

and i find it strange that anti was wide awake and pacing in my pm and yet when the loud nosies where hear he was trying to go to sleep, gosh you dont actualy think that i might of visited earlier in the evening do you:rolleyes:

I would've been the FIRST one there. She came out. Hired me. We went back.

Had you shown up before the gun fight, surely my PM would've mentioned something about someone else "earlier in the evening."

[iMac]

I think it's weird you saw him pacing about and my PM specifically says he fell asleep.

and i find it strange that anti was wide awake and pacing in my pm and yet when the loud nosies where hear he was trying to go to sleep, gosh you dont actualy think that i might of visited earlier in the evening do you:rolleyes:

Then wouldn't the guard have seen you?

[The Shape]

not scum, no

as for weather anyone saw me at antis :shrug: you'll have to ask them all i know is i walked upto 'the rather nice house' and 'looked throught the window' saw nothing other than anti pacing about

lol as if you're pretending to use quotes.

[supermareo]

Nice way to try and divert it onto Anti here.


im sorry what you want me to lie about my reasons for investigating anti? not a deflection simply stating my reasons fro targetting anti which is what shape questioned


I would've been the FIRST one there. She came out. Hired me. We went back.

Had you shown up before the gun fight, surely my PM would've mentioned something about someone else "earlier in the evening."

:shrugs: ask the mods, i know what info adn flavour text i got cant explain what other people got

[Antithesis]

Before there was a hint about prayers and so on but I thought it a red herring, however at this moment I'm leaning towards mareo being scum. Lynch arrows obviously, then deal with the recruiter from then on...

I do find it a lil odd that with all the mentions of Males doing bad stuff the last phase, he'd check out someone who's in Astil's write up as a female.

Seriously people.. look at teh write ups and now note.

Actarus.. Male
Imarevenant.. male
Bear.. Male
imac.. male
MJ.. Male
Arrows.. Male
SuperMareo.. Male


Thats just off the top of my head, confirmed males.

Not that I don't think TBP is a tad suspicious. But, apparently, targetting her at night can be a risk.

[supermareo]

Then wouldn't the guard have seen you?

the same 'bodyguard' who was meseriously absent when you had to protect anti instead?

[supermareo]

*mysteriously

[Antithesis]

My PM says I did fall asleep but then I woke up with the noises.

I wonder what MJ did and what result he got last night.

[supermareo]

lol as if you're pretending to use quotes.

not pretending anything

[The Shape]

I bet he got recruited by mareo tbh =D

[The Shape]

not pretending anything

So you're quoting? In which case you'd be replaced. You don't paraphrase with speech marks. xd

[supermareo]

So you're quoting? In which case you'd be replaced. You don't paraphrase with speech marks. xd

quoting small sections, not the entire pm, which iv done in this game previously as well with no ramifications

[The Shape]

quoting small sections, not the entire pm, which iv done in this game previously as well with no ramifications

all you've said before is not evil...

[supermareo]

you seem awful eager to get a townie modkilled shape from where im standing

[The Shape]

But vote: Arrows this is one hell of a distracton/alternative but that's where it's staying >_>

[The Shape]

you seem awful eager to get a townie modkilled shape from where im standing

nolol, I'm eager to prove that you're lying because you won't be, foolio.

[mistaken]

Um... while we're on that subject (well kinda), mistaken, in the DOTM Records thread you've spelt my name as Imac when it should be iMac. Sorry to be picky, but could you change it please? If it's too much trouble then don't bother, but it would be nice. Sorry again. :o :(

I figured it would be better to post in here than the thread itself.

Super being scum might explain why aikmitt822 decided it wasn't worth not getting drunk to play.


I have to imagine as scum you need to watch your words very closely, something playing drunk does not lend itself too.


how ever why would a mafia hit man hunt undead?


but the fact his pm does not match up is a little suspicious. but I remember last time we jumped on a man for his PM not lining up the way we thought it should. we lynched a town guy who honestly had no reason to expect us to lynch him.

[Antithesis]

Remaining players


1. Bear
7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo
10. Tha Black Phenom
13. Actarus
15. mistaken
16. mjdgoldeneye
21. Imarevenant
25. Antithesis
28. Arrows
35. The Shape
37. iMac


lets assume for just a second that imac, Mareo, and Arrows are telling the truth. Bear got us Prophet.. so he wasn't a killer last night. MJ was accounted for.. that leaves actarus, Mistaken and TBP.

TBP's female. Mistaken has a night ability (or had one anyway)

This leaves actarus as the killer.

[supermareo]

all you've said before is not evil...

ORLY?

mine said my night was 'like a dream' and i 'woke up' with info on lost

[Antithesis]

Super being scum might explain why aikmitt822 decided it wasn't worth not getting drunk to play.


I have to imagine as scum you need to watch your words very closely, something playing drunk does not lend itself too.


how ever why would a mafia hit man hunt undead?


but the fact his pm does not match up is a little suspicious. but I remember last time we jumped on a man for his PM not lining up the way we thought it should. we lynched a town guy who honestly had no reason to expect us to lynch him.

What did you do last night?

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (mistaken, The Shape)

[supermareo]

Super being scum might explain why aikmitt822 decided it wasn't worth not getting drunk to play.


I have to imagine as scum you need to watch your words very closely, something playing drunk does not lend itself too.


how ever why would a mafia hit man hunt undead?


but the fact his pm does not match up is a little suspicious. but I remember last time we jumped on a man for his PM not lining up the way we thought it should. we lynched a town guy who honestly had no reason to expect us to lynch him.

and you'd be doing the same this time as well


however with that being said

vote: arrows

sorry iv tried to belive you where town all through the game but antis evidence plus imacs and with a lack of a kill makes you scum in my eyes

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 3 (mistaken, The Shape, supermareo)

[Antithesis]

Can we hold off on lynching until everyone reports in with their results.. Please?!?!?!


Thank you.

[mistaken]

night before last I got left a note (shape was that you I didn't see leaving it? :p )

It said to search a particular body, I searched it and I found something.

I grunt had one last scroll of Bus driving on his dead body.

so tonight, I am probably dead for revealing that, but I'm :cool: with that.

I am going to swap a couple people and see what they can tell me about what happens.

[mistaken]

change vote : no vote (hmm mario mighty happy to jump on arrows with things turning against him)

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (The Shape, supermareo)

[Astil]

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http://2knikk.2ksite.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35&sid=7ea7cf70d9c28755fbeec188b74efb71

[mistaken]

and you'd be doing the same this time as well


however with that being said

vote: arrows

sorry iv tried to belive you where town all through the game but antis evidence plus imacs and with a lack of a kill makes you scum in my eyes

hey, what I do might looks scummy, but I've taken a stance of complete openness. and guess what i turn up where i am supposed to have been, and i fit into the few pm's and write ups I have been mentioned in. Exactly as the information I've provided says I should.

That is my claim to town, because I've not got any other leg to stand on.

[mistaken]

Phoenix Wright Mafia desperately need Members

http://2knikk.2ksite.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35&sid=7ea7cf70d9c28755fbeec188b74efb71

Wright pimpage, now that's cool.

[mistaken]

Remaining players


1. Bear
7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo
10. Tha Black Phenom
13. Actarus
15. mistaken
16. mjdgoldeneye
21. Imarevenant
25. Antithesis
28. Arrows
35. The Shape
37. iMac


lets assume for just a second that imac, Mareo, and Arrows are telling the truth. Bear got us Prophet.. so he wasn't a killer last night. MJ was accounted for.. that leaves actarus, Mistaken and TBP.

TBP's female. Mistaken has a night ability (or had one anyway)

This leaves actarus as the killer.

The list of abilites that acrtarus left us, is there anything on there that scum would not have know with out a special ability?

[Astil]

Wright pimpage, now that's cool.

[ /carlito]?

[mistaken]

[ /carlito]?

carlito-esqu I guess, as the things he finds "cool' tend not to be, and I am looking forward to this smaller 10 man game. that we still need at least 2 more players for.

[Antithesis]

I see TBP's name at the bottom.

Whats your take on all this?

[supermareo]

ok asa far as my situation goes, obviously i cant explain the difference between the various pm's however, remember that i came out with mine AFTER both anti and imac had shared theres, how easy would it of been for me if i where scum to have come up with something that was inline with theres?

[Tha Black Phenom]

My take, my take...

Fine, I think the dodgiest looking guy at the moment is Actarus. I can't really say but his posts strike something odd about him, his claim... well, I'm having a few thoughts about it. even though there's nothing really concrete so far. Might just be me, though.

I'll just be looking onto one of Anti's recent posts, to check somethin'

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (The Shape, supermareo)

[Arrows]

But vote: Arrows this is one hell of a distracton/alternative but that's where it's staying >_>

Yea. Lynching a townies smart.

and you'd be doing the same this time as well


however with that being said

vote: arrows

sorry iv tried to belive you where town all through the game but antis evidence plus imacs and with a lack of a kill makes you scum in my eyes

Looks like some people REALLLLLY want me dead it seems. Wonder why.

What evidence does Anti have anyway? A recruitment and a kill attempt on him while I was role blocked rules me out of both. Care to explain how that's evidence I'm scum?

[supermareo]

Yea. Lynching a townies smart.



Looks like some people REALLLLLY want me dead it seems. Wonder why.

What evidence does Anti have anyway? A recruitment and a kill attempt on him while I was role blocked rules me out of both. Care to explain how that's evidence I'm scum?

umm you wernt role blocked you where hired by anti, id say if anti hired the mafia killer he's likely to kill him anyway, at least if i where modding the game thats how i do it(if anti is town as he says he is) and wheres the recruitment attempt on anti? oh yes theres a recruitment on the write up but i dont recall any evidence that it was on anti

[Arrows]

umm you wernt role blocked you where hired by anti, id say if anti hired the mafia killer he's likely to kill him anyway, at least if i where modding the game thats how i do it(if anti is town as he says he is) and wheres the recruitment attempt on anti? oh yes theres a recruitment on the write up but i dont recall any evidence that it was on anti

I didn't mean the recruitment attempt was on Anti. I meant the kill was on Anti.

How could I be responsible for EITHER, considering Anti blocked me? iMac, did you have to stop the protector from killing Anti? Doubt it, considering I left like a coward.

[Arrows]

umm you wernt role blocked you where hired by anti, id say if anti hired the mafia killer he's likely to kill him anyway, at least if i where modding the game thats how i do it(if anti is town as he says he is) and wheres the recruitment attempt on anti? oh yes theres a recruitment on the write up but i dont recall any evidence that it was on anti

Anti stops people from performing their abilities=Role block.

Still wanna argue I'm scum?

[Arrows]

So. Now there's two pack(If that's who was recruiting), 2-3 maf. That's it?

Who was so determined to prove the Pack wasn't still around?

Told ya so.

[Tha Black Phenom]

So. Now there's two pack(If that's who was recruiting), 2-3 maf. That's it?

Who was so determined to prove the Pack wasn't still around?

Told ya so.

That makes quite a number of scum among the little list of players hanging there.

Vote: Actarus

Might as well take a chance.

[mistaken]

I think something stinks

Change Vote: Actarus

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (The Shape, supermareo)

Actarus - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken)

[The Shape]

but the fact his pm does not match up is a little suspicious. but I remember last time we jumped on a man for his PM not lining up the way we thought it should. we lynched a town guy who honestly had no reason to expect us to lynch him.

In fairness this is completely different, but you know that xD

As for Actarus...I still think his info and when he started giving it means his claim checks out to a point, the whole equipment destruction thing though I don't get as he said it happened recently yet nothing else of that sort seems to have occurred. Maybe a scum role that was forced to become a hitman...if he's mafia then it'd make perfect sense for his early info to be about the pack.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I investigated supermareo and got that he is "not Lakeside Aligned".

I think someone was recruited last night, and that's likely a bad thing. The write up makes it sound somewhat harmless, but I think the Pack lives... (Please, if I say anything absolutely ridiculous or obvious, note that I've been busy).

I can't believe Arrows isn't lynched yet... He seems to stick out like a sore thumb... to me at least... (Although I do think he should be, I'm just noting that the fact that he hasn't is amazing regardless! :p)

I'll hold off on voting until we've got everyone's info in.

To be honest, I think anyone except a select few CAN be mafia, but it's only a matter of who's most likely.

[Antithesis]

Why is everyone so certain that it was a pack recruitment?

They went two nights without a recruitment.

Maybe the recruiter was blocked the night before last?

That would be Imarevenant then.

[Arrows]

Why is everyone so certain that it was a pack recruitment?

They went two nights without a recruitment.

Maybe the recruiter was blocked the night before last?

That would be Imarevenant then.

Maybe they've been purposely avoiding actions?

[The Shape]

Why is everyone so certain that it was a pack recruitment?

They went two nights without a recruitment.

Maybe the recruiter was blocked the night before last?

That would be Imarevenant then.

"See the brilliance" fits the tough guy persona for sure...

[mjdgoldeneye]

Why is everyone so certain that it was a pack recruitment?

They went two nights without a recruitment.

Maybe the recruiter was blocked the night before last?

That would be Imarevenant then.

I suggested it could be something else, but with the talk of "seeing brilliance" and knowing how the past games have gone, I figured it's Pack. I was the first ever recruit of the Pack, so I'd know!

Maybe they've been purposely avoiding actions?

Why would they purposely avoid recruitment, though?

[mjdgoldeneye]

"See the brilliance" fits the tough guy persona for sure...

...defensive...?

[Arrows]

I suggested it could be something else, but with the talk of "seeing brilliance" and knowing how the past games have gone, I figured it's Pack. I was the first ever recruit of the Pack, so I'd know!



Why would they purposely avoid recruitment, though?

How much focus was on the Pack, at that point? Felt the heat, decided to lay low for a bit, let the town struggle, and then recruit.

[The Shape]

...defensive...?

hm?

[mjdgoldeneye]

How much focus was on the Pack, at that point? Felt the heat, decided to lay low for a bit, let the town struggle, and then recruit.

Possible, but I'd like to note that that sounds like a veteran move.

hm?

You just seemed to oppose the idea of it being Rev for no particular reason. I'm just trying to keep all bases covered.

[Arrows]

Possible, but I'd like to note that that sounds like a veteran move.



You just seemed to oppose the idea of it being Rev for no particular reason. I'm just trying to keep all bases covered.

Does seem like a vet play. I know if I was in that situation and wanted people to believe there were no more of us until the time came, and I couldn't choose NOT to do anything, I'd be targeting Shape. Don't know if that clears Shape as Pack, or if they can choose, or what the case may be. Just a thought.

[Antithesis]

Never knew of a cult that had a choice.

2 Scenarios.


Its a Mafia recruitment.

They recruited the person who normally protects me, which would explain why, then, they would bother trying to kill me when it is known I am normally protected.

It is a pack recruitment, again, in which case the recruiter will not have a verifiable night ability.
Rev, Arrows, and Actarus fit this (though some claim to have abilities that are not always verified by others... for example Mareo).

Assuming they have a mandatory recruitment, perhaps Trypio was the leader but not the recruiter. When the recruiter died, Trypio took over without pause. However when Trypio died, and then BP, it took a phase for recruitments to start again.

That still leaves one day unaccounted for, which I submitted Rev was blocked on that day.

Now, if the Pack don't have a mandatory recruitment then, well, who knows.

[Antithesis]

Does seem like a vet play. I know if I was in that situation and wanted people to believe there were no more of us until the time came, and I couldn't choose NOT to do anything, I'd be targeting Shape. Don't know if that clears Shape as Pack, or if they can choose, or what the case may be. Just a thought.

Do we know if recruits keep their powers? Most cults don't.

I am certain though that a recruiter wouldn't.. his ability being to recruit and all.

[Imarevenant]

You just seemed to oppose the idea of it being Rev for no particular reason. I'm just trying to keep all bases covered.

LOL! No you've misread him.

Once again Shape wants to try and put the Alpha one in the firing zone!!!! I’m not surprised though; Shape has been subtlety trying to push a lynch on me for more than a few phases now. Since it was shown I can’t die actually.

First I was undead.

Then I was the vehicle killer.

Now, I must have been recruited into the pack.

Shape, I’m ALPHA!!!! That’s it nothing more, nothing less.

It makes sense though. Anti hires his own protection, Arrows may be bulletproof, and I can’t die. At some point you have to get a miss-lynch on one of us right? Arrows, well he’s successfully talked his way out of everything, besides Outlaw, he just might be the most difficult person to lynch here at GDS. Anti, there has been more than enough evidence to show he’s town, so there is no point trying it, right? So you do what you have to do, and since I haven’t been around as much this game, well, there’s the one you have to push a miss-lynch on right, Shape?

[Antithesis]

LOL! No you've misread him.

Once again Shape wants to try and put the Alpha one in the firing zone!!!! I’m not surprised though; Shape has been subtlety trying to push a lynch on me for more than a few phases now. Since it was shown I can’t die actually.

First I was undead.

Then I was the vehicle killer.

Now, I must have been recruited into the pack.

Shape, I’m ALPHA!!!! That’s it nothing more, nothing less.

It makes sense though. Anti hires his own protection, Arrows may be bulletproof, and I can’t die. At some point you have to get a miss-lynch on one of us right? Arrows, well he’s successfully talked his way out of everything, besides Outlaw, he just might be the most difficult person to lynch here at GDS. Anti, there has been more than enough evidence to show he’s town, so there is no point trying it, right? So you do what you have to do, and since I haven’t been around as much this game, well, there’s the one you have to push a miss-lynch on right, Shape?

I mention you because the timing.

TBH barring someone suddenly jumping on and saying "so and so is scum and I can prove it" I think his not being there when I looked basically means I cannot account for fully blocking him the entire night.

BTW Arrows now claims to be vanilla.. no longer bulletproof.

[The Shape]

LOL! No you've misread him.

Once again Shape wants to try and put the Alpha one in the firing zone!!!! I’m not surprised though; Shape has been subtlety trying to push a lynch on me for more than a few phases now. Since it was shown I can’t die actually.

First I was undead.

Then I was the vehicle killer.

Now, I must have been recruited into the pack.

Shape, I’m ALPHA!!!! That’s it nothing more, nothing less.

It makes sense though. Anti hires his own protection, Arrows may be bulletproof, and I can’t die. At some point you have to get a miss-lynch on one of us right? Arrows, well he’s successfully talked his way out of everything, besides Outlaw, he just might be the most difficult person to lynch here at GDS. Anti, there has been more than enough evidence to show he’s town, so there is no point trying it, right? So you do what you have to do, and since I haven’t been around as much this game, well, there’s the one you have to push a miss-lynch on right, Shape?

Firstly I'm not so sure you're still bulletproof ;)

And the reason I want rid of you is that you've contributed nothing of note to help us out and yet sail through as though you're a confirmed townie because you couldn't be killed once, in dubious circumstances. Injury -> undead; Brucie -> vehicles; brilliance -> tough guy. They were/are all possibilities and unlike you I'm actually you know, thinking about things and so on rather than doing nothing but crop up to put down anyone who has a bad word to say about me.

[Arrows]

Do we know if recruits keep their powers? Most cults don't.

I am certain though that a recruiter wouldn't.. his ability being to recruit and all.

I am almost certain they do.

Arrows, well he’s successfully talked his way out of everything, besides Outlaw, he just might be the most difficult person to lynch here at GDS.

It's easy to talk your way out of a lynch when you're telling the truth.

I mention you because the timing.

TBH barring someone suddenly jumping on and saying "so and so is scum and I can prove it" I think his not being there when I looked basically means I cannot account for fully blocking him the entire night.

BTW Arrows now claims to be vanilla.. no longer bulletproof.

Yep. I'm vanilla.:(

[mjdgoldeneye]

Vote: Arrows

If you guys come up with a better idea, I'm all for it.

I just don't want another no lynch at this point...

[Arrows]

Vote: Arrows

If you guys come up with a better idea, I'm all for it.

I just don't want another no lynch at this point...

Yet again, people turn to the one guy incapable of having done any of the bad **** last night instead of taking some time to figure out who did. I really hope you guys are taking note.

[Imarevenant]

Firstly I'm not so sure you're still bulletproof ;)

Well send your boys to come try me tonight then.

And the reason I want rid of you is that you've contributed nothing of note to help us out and yet sail through as though you're a confirmed townie because you couldn't be killed once, in dubious circumstances.

Perhaps you missed the part where the investigator (not the backwards one, not the priest, not a fake gunsmith; but the one that was getting trustworthy results) confirmed me as Lakeside Aligned.

Injury -> undead; Brucie -> vehicles; brilliance -> tough guy.

Every single one of those is an enormous reach.

They were/are all possibilities and unlike you I'm actually you know, thinking about things and so on rather than doing nothing but crop up to put down anyone who has a bad word to say about me.

Not much I can do about that. My schedule has been taken to the MAX!!!! and I only have a few opportunities to post each day. So when I do post I end up addressing things that pertain to me, so that the town doesn't screw up and lynch one of their own. I've just happened to notice it's been you that has been throwing that suspicion on me more often than not.


VIP Style Babay!!!!!!!!!

[Arrows]

Perhaps you missed the part where the investigator (not the backwards one, not the priest, not a fake gunsmith; but the one that was getting trustworthy results) confirmed me as Lakeside Aligned.



You could've been recruited since. Not saying I think you were, but investigations mean **** all now.

[Bear]

I don't think today's decision as clear-cut as yesterday, at least to me. We're at a point where if we can catch a nuance of a flub, it'll make the decision much easier. Actarus' change in ability now looks worrisome to me, but it could be paranoia.

[supermareo]

I investigated supermareo and got that he is "not Lakeside Aligned".

I think someone was recruited last night, and that's likely a bad thing. The write up makes it sound somewhat harmless, but I think the Pack lives... (Please, if I say anything absolutely ridiculous or obvious, note that I've been busy).

I can't believe Arrows isn't lynched yet... He seems to stick out like a sore thumb... to me at least... (Although I do think he should be, I'm just noting that the fact that he hasn't is amazing regardless! :p)

I'll hold off on voting until we've got everyone's info in.

To be honest, I think anyone except a select few CAN be mafia, but it's only a matter of who's most likely.

which mean the opposite of course so unless someone want to try and suggest im the don or something guess that clears me. thank you:)


Yet again, people turn to the one guy incapable of having done any of the bad **** last night instead of taking some time to figure out who did. I really hope you guys are taking note.

you neglect the fact though that anti's pm states you went missing, now for most of the game even when others have been convinced of your guilt iv not been, iv truly believed most of what youve said however the fact that you went missing there casts doubt, i know youve expained that but i just find it weird, ESPECCIALY when a recruitment happened which may also explain why you went missing, howver

change vote: no vote

my last vote was made hastily and im willing to wait and here all the evidence and go with the rest of the towns decision.

[Arrows]

which mean the opposite of course so unless someone want to try and suggest im the don or something guess that clears me. thank you:)

you neglect the fact though that anti's pm states you went missing, now for most of the game even when others have been convinced of your guilt iv not been, iv truly believed most of what youve said however the fact that you went missing there casts doubt, i know youve expained that but i just find it weird, ESPECCIALY when a recruitment happened which may also explain why you went missing, howver

change vote: no vote

my last vote was made hastily and im willing to wait and here all the evidence and go with the rest of the towns decision.

Could've still been recruited. Again, investigations mean absolutely nothing. SOMEONE was there to kill Anti. Period.

Yep. I walked away. iMac, a REAL protector, was handling the situation, and I ran like a coward. Would you honestly expect a charlatan to flying leap into a GUN FIGHT empty handed when someone else already has it under control?

Flavor text to play up the characters.

[Antithesis]

Could've still been recruited. Again, investigations mean absolutely nothing. SOMEONE was there to kill Anti. Period.

Yep. I walked away. iMac, a REAL protector, was handling the situation, and I ran like a coward. Would you honestly expect a charlatan to flying leap into a GUN FIGHT empty handed when someone else already has it under control?

Flavor text to play up the characters.

My problem then is.. why would the Mafia target me.

They gotta have twonie numbers decline, yet they had to expect I'd be protected. Why not kill a townie member who wasn't likely to be defended in any way?

[Arrows]

I really think at this point, Anti's got the right idea. If he can keep blocking people he's bound to figure out who's doing the killing and recruiting. We just gotta hope he can manage it quick enough, and that we can give him some real assistance during the day phases, and maybe even find a way to take one down ourselves.

[Arrows]

My problem then is.. why would the Mafia target me.

They gotta have twonie numbers decline, yet they had to expect I'd be protected. Why not kill a townie member who wasn't likely to be defended in any way?

Maybe they thought you'd test Shape's untargetable ability? If you did, and he still is, you'd be wide open. Maybe they figured they would kill whoever you grabbed, and they wouldn't be seen at THAT person, but at you instead, and have a way out of the kill? I don't know.

[Bear]

I'm the best hired guard evar.

[Bear]

Maybe they thought you'd test Shape's untargetable ability? If you did, and he still is, you'd be wide open. Maybe they figured they would kill whoever you grabbed, and they wouldn't be seen at THAT person, but at you instead, and have a way out of the kill? I don't know.

Even better than that... What if Anti could buy Shape and keep him from running around? Opportunity to kill someone untargetable? Plausible. I worried the other night, when I watched Prophet, that they'd attempt on Anti while I wasn't there.

[Antithesis]

And lest we forget... if there was a Pack recruitment, the last person to mention them was Moe

Something about Arrows, and silencing the Pack's message of hate....

[Arrows]

And lest we forget... if there was a Pack recruitment, the last person to mention them was Moe

Something about Arrows, and silencing the Pack's message of hate....

Psssst.

How'd I recruit when I got role blocked bud?

[Antithesis]

Psssst.

How'd I recruit when I got role blocked bud?

Make up your mind.. either you were roleblocked all the way or you wandered off "in fear".

Who's to say you didn't wander off to recruit?

[Arrows]

Make up your mind.. either you were roleblocked all the way or you wandered off "in fear".

Who's to say you didn't wander off to recruit?

I think the wandering off was simply flavor text. Had iMac not been there, I would've been the one to defend you, but it made more sense for him to do it, and I wound up leaving. Doubt I broke free of the role block, though it wouldn't matter, seeing as I don't do anything.

[Antithesis]

Thats your ultimate argument against being lynched.. that you are so useless a role now even when bribed you run away at the first sign of trouble....

Honestly, I don't see that as a positive. If the town is stuck and needs answers, why shouldn't it lynch the one claiming to be , at best, useless?

[Actarus]

Home internet problems are over.

I’m a little distraught there’s a couple of votes on me; I put all my cards on the table a few day phases ago. Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see anything pointing in my direction. Personally, all the newest clues center around Anti (I don’t know why). Not saying Anti is scum; I’m saying for my money, that’s the area we should be focusing on, as all the new information is there.

Okay, here’s my updated list of players:

1. Bear - Doesn’t Do Anything (actively)/ Was used by Anti for protection on nights (More than you know)/Win condition to outlast the Hunk. – dirty, therefore clean result
7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo – Priest; can only see if target is undead aligned, otherwise comes up “not evil” – dirty, therefore clean
10. Tha Black Phenom – Lonely Housewife w/ a brick
13. Actarus – former researcher; vanilla
15. Mistaken – grave robber
16. Mjdgoldeneye – bass ackwards investigator w/ gun
21. Imarevenant – ALPHA?!
25. Antithesis – dead mayor’s wife, hires people to protect her during night phase. Diry, therefore clean
28. Arrows – Charlatan, vanilla
35. The Shape – fast, gives out poems
37. iMac – Bodyguard / protector; dirty, therefore clean

For anyone cleared by mjd’s investigations, I bolded in blue. Arrows is right that they mean less due to recruitments, but you have to start somewhere. Assuming all those investigations are still relevant, and since mjd is the investigator:

10. Tha Black Phenom – Lonely Housewife w/ a brick
13. Actarus – former researcher; vanilla
15. Mistaken – grave robber
21. Imarevenant – ALPHA?!
28. Arrows – Charlatan, vanilla
35. The Shape – fast, gives out poems

Now, excluding gender issues (Is there anything confirming TBP’s gender except TBP himself? I didn't see anything in the write-ups), one of these 6 is the gun killer. I’d say five and take me off the list, but I don’t want to be accused of playing favorites.

Oh, and mistaken was right, I do stink. I’m hitting the shower and eating dinner. Be back in a few.

[Arrows]

Thats your ultimate argument against being lynched.. that you are so useless a role now even when bribed you run away at the first sign of trouble....

Honestly, I don't see that as a positive. If the town is stuck and needs answers, why shouldn't it lynch the one claiming to be , at best, useless?

Because my mind makes up for the lack of any abilities, and right now, who here other than you and iMac AREN'T useless?

Mareo? Nobody but undead come up evil to him. You see any of them wandering around at the moment?

MJ? Investigations mean nothing when there are recruitments happening again. Hes says someone's town, they get recruited. Means **** all.

At least I'm here, and I'm trying to think. Sorry my character's NOT a fighter, and isn't about to jump into a gun fight for NO REASON. iMac handled the situation, else my character would have.

Oh.

That's right.

Unless I have some super cool amazing power, I'm absolutely useless.

You people have become WAY too dependent on powers. I use my brain. Use yours.

[Imarevenant]

10. Tha Black Phenom – Lonely Housewife w/ a brick
13. Actarus – former researcher; vanilla
15. Mistaken – grave robber
21. Imarevenant – ALPHA?!
28. Arrows – Charlatan, vanilla
35. The Shape – fast, gives out poems

Now, excluding gender issues (Is there anything confirming TBP’s gender except TBP himself? I didn't see anything in the write-ups), one of these 6 is the gun killer. I’d say five and take me off the list, but I don’t want to be accused of playing favorites.

Oh, and mistaken was right, I do stink. I’m hitting the shower and eating dinner. Be back in a few.


Yo; Tha Alpha One was protecting Anti night 9, the night Comrade was shot in the face. No gun here, besides those on my arms Babay!!!!!!!!!


Anti, I want to check something, who were your targets each night again?

[Actarus]

Okay, I lied about showering…at least for one more post.

Yo; Tha Alpha One was protecting Anti night 9, the night Comrade was shot in the face. No gun here, besides those on my arms Babay!!!!!!!!!


Anti, I want to check something, who were your targets each night again?

The problem with this list is, as Arrows said, most of mjd’s investigations count less due to recruiting…unless…okay, let’s start over:

1. Bear - Doesn’t Do Anything (actively)/ Was used by Anti for protection on nights (More than you know)/Win condition to outlast the Hunk. – dirty, therefore clean result
7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo - Priest
10. Tha Black Phenom - Lonely Housewife with a Brick
13. Actarus – Vanilla,
15. Mistaken - Grave Robber
16. Mjdgoldeneye - Bass Ackwards Investigator with a Gun
21. Imarevenant - Alpha Babay!!!!!!!!!!! (clarify at all?)
25. Antithesis – Widow, dirty – therefore, clean result
28. Arrows - Charlatan(of sorts)
35. The Shape - Fast Man passing out notes
37. iMac - Bodyguard (that doesn’t allow investigations?), dirty, therefore clean result

Now, for some reasonable (at least to me) process of elimination:

Supermareo was investigated last night by mjd, so I’m taking them both off as I think at the very least last night’s investigation can be trusted.
Anti (confirmed to be female from night 5), and Rev (protected Anti night 9) are also taken off.
Now, if the fat guy that gunned down Crychon night 5 is the same mafia killer, then I can be taken off as well as Anti hired me night 5.
iMac protected mjd the night Comrade was shot down (night 9?)
Night 6, Anti hired Bear for protection, and someone was gunned down that night
Also, night 6 was the night Arrows was freed form captivity. While my mafia playing experience is limited, I’d doubt he could be freed BEFORE being allowed to shoot someone down. So off the list he goes. That’d leave:


10. Tha Black Phenom - Lonely Housewife with a Brick
15. Mistaken - Grave Robber
35. The Shape - Fast Man passing out notes


If everything I did was accurate, one of these three be the killing people...with a gun.

[Antithesis]

Yo; Tha Alpha One was protecting Anti night 9, the night Comrade was shot in the face. No gun here, besides those on my arms Babay!!!!!!!!!


Anti, I want to check something, who were your targets each night again?

My actions

Night 1- Hire Moe Hunter

Night 2- Targetted Bear for hiring apparently Grunt switched me with TBP My result was that I was lost and found no one

Night3- Hired Imarevenant (said he felt money was useless, but protected me anyway)

Night 4- Hire Bear. Hear bear fighting outside. Bear gets Silenced (moe claimed responibility for this)
Got this poem
Unable to repent,
Lacking in a voice,
His demise no reason to rejoice.

Another lies alone,
Putting up a fight,
Realising that the blur is awfully bright.


Night 5- Hired Actarus. Its mentioned in the detailed Night 5 Write ups

Night 6- Hired Bear.. also got this note. "Not sure how much of the next day phase I'll be on for, but hopefully you can make sure it isn't rushed as I missed all of the last one. CK is obviously scum but her allies and other scum will willingly jump on the bandwagon to stop anything else coming to light. "


Night 7- Hired Bear

Night 8- Hired Bear.
Got this poem
And also, once again a note was at your feet.

The magic man hung,
Only one left to curse,
His talents to broad for one single verse.

Meanwhile they rejoiced,
The heat still elsewhere,
The town remained without a prayer.

Night 9- Hired Imarevenant

Night 10- Hired Arrows. Got the latest poem

[Bear]

Mistaken, do you have any idea what your backpack can do?

[Antithesis]

Because my mind makes up for the lack of any abilities, and right now, who here other than you and iMac AREN'T useless?

Mareo? Nobody but undead come up evil to him. You see any of them wandering around at the moment?

MJ? Investigations mean nothing when there are recruitments happening again. Hes says someone's town, they get recruited. Means **** all.

At least I'm here, and I'm trying to think. Sorry my character's NOT a fighter, and isn't about to jump into a gun fight for NO REASON. iMac handled the situation, else my character would have.

Oh.

That's right.

Unless I have some super cool amazing power, I'm absolutely useless.

You people have become WAY too dependent on powers. I use my brain. Use yours.

Same brain that pushed to lynch Moe?

Who would you like for us to lynch then?

Tell me, seriously, who the scum is?

[Antithesis]

Now, if the fat guy that gunned down Crychon night 5 is the same mafia killer, then I can be taken off as well as Anti hired me night 5.


The fat guy was Bak.

You can remain on the list because Mafia members have distinctive roles. Once the designated killer dies, another member will take over the killing for that person.

Bak died, and now a new killer has surfaced. And because of this, whatever old abilities that player had, they are gone, so its quite logical to look at people who have claimed to have lost abilities as being suspicious under those circumstances.

[mjdgoldeneye]

"The magic man hung,
Only one left to curse,
His talents to broad for one single verse.

Meanwhile they rejoiced,
The heat still elsewhere,
The town remained without a prayer."

Who claimed to be the priest? Is it me, or does that not seem incriminating?

[Imarevenant]

Okay, I lied about showering…at least for one more post.



The problem with this list is, as Arrows said, most of mjd’s investigations count less due to recruiting…unless…okay, let’s start over:

Wasn't talking about investigations, was eliminating myself as the gunman

Now, for some reasonable (at least to me) process of elimination:

Supermareo was investigated last night by mjd, so I’m taking them both off as I think at the very least last night’s investigation can be trusted.
Anti (confirmed to be female from night 5), and Rev (protected Anti night 9) are also taken off.
Now, if the fat guy that gunned down Crychon night 5 is the same mafia killer, then I can be taken off as well as Anti hired me night 5.
iMac protected mjd the night Comrade was shot down (night 9?)
Night 6, Anti hired Bear for protection, and someone was gunned down that night
Also, night 6 was the night Arrows was freed form captivity. While my mafia playing experience is limited, I’d doubt he could be freed BEFORE being allowed to shoot someone down. So off the list he goes. That’d leave:


About the one who shot Crychon. I believe that was Bak, Babay!!! So a new hitman should have taken over night 6, just as Bak appeared to take over for Treton.

Here:

Night 5

Night 5
The big, nay, enormous man was hungry! He was oh so very hungry. But the boss wouldn't let him eat! Can't have any dinner until the chores were done.

The car was slowly moving up the street. His target was one of the few people in town with a working automobile. The enormous man waved the man down. The car slowed to a stop. A very official looking man rolled down the window. "What's up, buddy? Make it quick, I've got some business to handle."

The fat man waddled around the car. "I need your help! There are some guys down there in the alley, they're up to no good!" The fat man pointed down an alley. As Crychon turned his head to look down the alley, the disgusting fat man produced a small handgun and shot him in the side of the head.

Crychon slumped over to the side, dead.

-

The fat man looked in the car. "Doritos!" He reached in and grabbed a bag of chips from inside the car. He had earned his dinner, and now had found some chips for dessert. It was definitely a good night.


Night 8

Night 8
He walked into the city again. Stalking, hunting almost. He needed dinner tonight. However ... it was not to be.

-

Time to be a hero again... One shot was all that was needed to drop the large man.


So here is what has happened from night 8 on, when a new hitman should have been in place

8. Bear-------Vehicle/trap kill, Glot's vig kill on Bak (large man shooting people), no recruitment
9. Rev-------Gun, Bomb, Vehicle/trap attempt, no recruitment
10. Arrows------someone attacked Anti but was stopped by imac, recruitment

[Antithesis]

"The magic man hung,
Only one left to curse,
His talents to broad for one single verse.

Meanwhile they rejoiced,
The heat still elsewhere,
The town remained without a prayer."

Who claimed to be the priest? Is it me, or does that not seem incriminating?

mareo is the priest and yes, at the time I shared the poem I said the "prayer" line was interesting but no one really bothered with it.

[mjdgoldeneye]

mareo is the priest and yes, at the time I shared the poem I said the "prayer" line was interesting but no one really bothered with it.

Well, there's another bizarre thing to go against my investigations...

I have no idea what to do now...

(Well, lynching Arrows sounds grand, but he's not a fan of the idea...)

[Antithesis]

I really do not like this game.

last phase imac said he got a PM with 6 words in it. This phase he gets a full report about defending me from someone with a gun.

Just stuff like that alone makes me paranoid. The mods could seriously screw someone over by accident, or allow scum to lie their asses off just because the mods started the practice to begin with.

[iMac]

Sending out PM in a hurry. They'll be shorter, sorry.

I really do not like this game.

last phase imac said he got a PM with 6 words in it. This phase he gets a full report about defending me from someone with a gun.

Just stuff like that alone makes me paranoid. The mods could seriously screw someone over by accident, or allow scum to lie their asses off just because the mods started the practice to begin with.

Astil did say they would be short that night. :o

[Actarus]

The fat guy was Bak.
You can remain on the list because Mafia members have distinctive roles. Once the designated killer dies, another member will take over the killing for that person.

Bak died, and now a new killer has surfaced. And because of this, whatever old abilities that player had, they are gone, so its quite logical to look at people who have claimed to have lost abilities as being suspicious under those circumstances.

Well, I didn’t know that. So what you're saying is that anyone gunned down before night...uh...8 (bak died night 8) doesn’t count. Okay, I’ll readjust then. Here’s a new list:

1. Bear - Doesn’t Do Anything (actively)/ Was used by Anti for protection on nights (More than you know)/Win condition to outlast the Hunk. – dirty, therefore clean result
10. Tha Black Phenom - Lonely Housewife with a Brick
13. Actarus – Vanilla,
15. Mistaken - Grave Robber
28. Arrows - Charlatan(of sorts)
35. The Shape - Fast Man passing out notes



Supermareo was investigated last night by mjd, so I’m taking them both off as I think at the very least last night’s investigation can be trusted.
Anti (confirmed to be female from night 5), and Rev (protected Anti night 9) are also taken off.
iMac protected mjd the night Comrade was shot down (also night 9)


So one of the 6 above is the gun killer.

[Bear]

I really do not like this game.

last phase imac said he got a PM with 6 words in it. This phase he gets a full report about defending me from someone with a gun.

Just stuff like that alone makes me paranoid. The mods could seriously screw someone over by accident, or allow scum to lie their asses off just because the mods started the practice to begin with.

Don't feel bad. Without a clear-cut direction, I read into everything. Normally, you'd glance over 'prayer', but since the 'kin' thing was dead-on, it warrants looking into. I'm even trying to figure out if Mistaken's 'backpack' means anything. Totally random.

[Bear]

Well, I didn’t know that. So what you're saying is that anyone gunned down before night...uh...8 (bak died night 8) doesn’t count. Okay, I’ll readjust then. Here’s a new list:





Supermareo was investigated last night by mjd, so I’m taking them both off as I think at the very least last night’s investigation can be trusted.
Anti (confirmed to be female from night 5), and Rev (protected Anti night 9) are also taken off.
iMac protected mjd the night Comrade was shot down (also night 9)


So one of the 6 above is the gun killer.

That was the night I busted Prophet trying to kill MJD.

[mjdgoldeneye]

I really do not like this game.

last phase imac said he got a PM with 6 words in it. This phase he gets a full report about defending me from someone with a gun.

Just stuff like that alone makes me paranoid. The mods could seriously screw someone over by accident, or allow scum to lie their asses off just because the mods started the practice to begin with.

The difference between length in words in 2 of my PM's is at least 200...

I got almost my own write-up when I got my gun, but Astil recently just sent me "Blah is blah"...

I'd really like to see consistency, and they best way to get that is to avoid PM flavor text.

[Imarevenant]

Don't feel bad. Without a clear-cut direction, I read into everything. Normally, you'd glance over 'prayer', but since the 'kin' thing was dead-on, it warrants looking into. I'm even trying to figure out if Mistaken's 'backpack' means anything. Totally random.

The Alpha one thought that Mistaken's backpack was the Mods way of letting him store the things he relieves the dead of. That way he doesn't have to alternate between robbing and using an item, instead he can just go on a robbing spree and stockpile items.

Just my thought on it. Stay Alpha!!!!!

[Actarus]

That was the night I busted Prophet trying to kill MJD.

Gotcha. Updated:

Potential Gun Killer:
10. Tha Black Phenom - Lonely Housewife with a Brick
13. Actarus – Vanilla,
15. Mistaken - Grave Robber
28. Arrows - Charlatan(of sorts)
35. The Shape - Fast Man passing out notes

[Antithesis]

Well, I didn’t know that. So what you're saying is that anyone gunned down before night...uh...8 (bak died night 8) doesn’t count. Okay, I’ll readjust then. Here’s a new list:





Supermareo was investigated last night by mjd, so I’m taking them both off as I think at the very least last night’s investigation can be trusted.
Anti (confirmed to be female from night 5), and Rev (protected Anti night 9) are also taken off.
iMac protected mjd the night Comrade was shot down (also night 9)


So one of the 6 above is the gun killer.

And now you know why, assuming TBP is in fact female, that I consider you to be someone of interest.

Some people mention SHape, yet I don't see him delivering notes and still killing people.

A Don.. maybe, but not a killer.

And since Mistaken says he has an ability that he can pretty much prove tonight by switching otehrs around, that leaves you.

[Antithesis]

And now you know why, assuming TBP is in fact female, that I consider you to be someone of interest.

Some people mention SHape, yet I don't see him delivering notes and still killing people.

A Don.. maybe, but not a killer.

And since Mistaken says he has an ability that he can pretty much prove tonight by switching otehrs around, that leaves you.

Well, you and Arrows

[The Shape]

VIP Style Babay!!!!!!!!!

lol to all of this. Saying things are an enourmous reach when really we know **** all about what's going on beyond alignments is most confusing, and in no case did you offer any sort of alternative. But yeah go on then, who do YOU think that the brilliance hint and recruitment etc is down to? Given that you, one of the most obvious explanations, is such a far-fetched and ridiculous notion.

Even better than that... What if Anti could buy Shape and keep him from running around? Opportunity to kill someone untargetable? Plausible. I worried the other night, when I watched Prophet, that they'd attempt on Anti while I wasn't there.

He won't be able to tbh.

Btw, I'm now regretting having missed out on the chance to drop a series of Catch Me If You Can themed hints over the span of several days earlier on. Bah.

If everything I did was accurate, one of these three be the killing people...with a gun.

mistaken has said something which makes sense about what he did last night and can easily be proved wrong tonight, TBP's character is female, and people are still getting notes.

Yet your name has no reason not to be on that list, hell it has a reason TO be on it, as the new hitman-ness coincided quite comfortably with your equipment being destroyed by a mysterious force we have heard nothing else of since.

[Imarevenant]

Gotcha. Updated:

10. Tha Black Phenom - Lonely Housewife with a Brick
13. Actarus – Vanilla,
15. Mistaken - Grave Robber
28. Arrows - Charlatan(of sorts)
35. The Shape - Fast Man passing out notes



Potential Gun Killer:

Isn't there confirmation that people have indeed recieved notes from Shape, on nights 9 and 10?

[mistaken]

The Alpha one thought that Mistaken's backpack was the Mods way of letting him store the things he relieves the dead of. That way he doesn't have to alternate between robbing and using an item, instead he can just go on a robbing spree and stockpile items.

Just my thought on it. Stay Alpha!!!!!

That is Alpha (correct) it's just a way to let me steal from the dead, and still keep something else i found.

Gotcha. Updated:

Potential Gun Killer:

not a potential Gun Killer, I didn't have a gun, and haven't found a gun. so I don't have a gun with which to be a gun killer.

[Imarevenant]

lol to all of this. Saying things are an enourmous reach when really we know **** all about what's going on beyond alignments is most confusing, and in no case did you offer any sort of alternative. But yeah go on then, who do YOU think that the brilliance hint and recruitment etc is down to? Given that you, one of the most obvious explanations, is such a far-fetched and ridiculous notion.

I don't think someone thinking another person's plan is brilliant is a hint to begin with. It was an explanation of what happened. I fail to see how myself, a tough guy is any more likely to describe a plan as brilliant as say, the widowed mayors wife, or the dude running circles around the town, or the charlatan, grave robber etc etc etc.

It was ridiculous and a large reach to assign a description of a plan to any particular person.

[The Shape]

I don't think someone thinking another person's plan is brilliant is a hint to begin with. It was an explanation of what happened. I fail to see how myself, a tough guy is any more likely to describe a plan as brilliant as say, the widowed mayors wife, or the dude running circles around the town, or the charlatan, grave robber etc etc etc.

It was ridiculous and a large reach to assign a description of a plan to any particular person.

The way it was phrased though...we know it's a cult, "saw the brilliance" almost like seeing the light or recognising this person's new leadership. That sort of thing's what I'm a fan of myself and I can read too much into stuff but really...with writeups that brief and nothing else to go on I believe every word is deliberate.

[The Shape]

And there's no direct suggestion that it's the PLAN that is brilliant. Target > Few words > brilliant.

[Imarevenant]

And there's no direct suggestion that it's the PLAN that is brilliant. Target > Few words > brilliant.

He walked towards his target. After some brief words, the man saw the brilliance, and joined his side.

Ok, the only real sure fire hint in that sentence is that, it was a man.

A man who saw brilliance in the words of another man.

Please, tell me how seeing brilliance points to the Lucky Tough Guy over anyone else?

[Arrows]

Same brain that pushed to lynch Moe?

Who would you like for us to lynch then?

Tell me, seriously, who the scum is?

*Shrugs* At least I'm trying to help you guys put this together. Same brain that helped me push Moe. Yep. I never said I'm perfect. Neither are you. I am not the voice of the Pack. He said that's what it said. I figured he was lying. Still makes sense to me.

The fat guy was Bak.

You can remain on the list because Mafia members have distinctive roles. Once the designated killer dies, another member will take over the killing for that person.

Bak died, and now a new killer has surfaced. And because of this, whatever old abilities that player had, they are gone, so its quite logical to look at people who have claimed to have lost abilities as being suspicious under those circumstances.

Hmm.

Well, there's another bizarre thing to go against my investigations...

I have no idea what to do now...

(Well, lynching Arrows sounds grand, but he's not a fan of the idea...)

Why are you so stuck on lyching me?

Well, I didn’t know that. So what you're saying is that anyone gunned down before night...uh...8 (bak died night 8) doesn’t count. Okay, I’ll readjust then. Here’s a new list:





Supermareo was investigated last night by mjd, so I’m taking them both off as I think at the very least last night’s investigation can be trusted.
Anti (confirmed to be female from night 5), and Rev (protected Anti night 9) are also taken off.
iMac protected mjd the night Comrade was shot down (also night 9)


So one of the 6 above is the gun killer.

Gotcha. Updated:

Potential Gun Killer:

Well, you and Arrows

Not possible that I'm the gunman. I was role blocked last night when a gun fight happened at Anti's.

[mistaken]

Isn't there confirmation that people have indeed recieved notes from Shape, on nights 9 and 10?

I have confirmed night 9.

I think I can also confirm night 10. but due to the nature of the note, and the fact it suggest another body to search, and thus add nothing to the conversation of whom we should kill today, I will hold off on delieving the contents of that note until I have pulled off my bus driver tonight.

[The Shape]

Ok, the only real sure fire hint in that sentence is that, it was a man.

A man who saw brilliance in the words of another man.

Please, tell me how seeing brilliance points to the Lucky Tough Guy over anyone else?

I'm saying that the man might be more attracted to the "brilliance" of a lucky tough guy than to, for example, a journalist. That's how I see it. Also there was no recruitment last night, while you were at Anti's (anti did you get any flavour text for this?).

However the other main possibility as far as this goes is the priest, whose words themselves I think could be seen as being more "brilliant." Coupled with past hints in the poems this unnerves me a little, especially with MJD having said he investigated him last night and he came up non-town and is therefore clear. For me mareo seems like a really odd choice of target for MJD, who in turn would be the number one choice for me if I was recruiting.

As far as overall recruitER possibilities go, here's the list as it stands:

1. Bear
7. supermareo
13. Actarus
15. mistaken
16. mjdgoldeneye
21. Imarevenant

Though actarus (fairly sure he's mafia hitman) and mistaken (just don't think he's lying) can all but removed from that list despite the lack of hard evidence.

[The Shape]

I have confirmed night 9.

I think I can also confirm night 10. but due to the nature of the note, and the fact it suggest another body to search, and thus add nothing to the conversation of whom we should kill today, I will hold off on delieving the contents of that note until I have pulled off my bus driver tonight.

Right now I'd say same body, but I'm starting to have second thoughts in terms of what should follow...

[mistaken]

Right now I'd say same body, but I'm starting to have second thoughts in terms of what should follow...
???

I missing what your trying to say here. sorry.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Why is he an odd choice?

supermareo
Tha Black Phenom
Actarus
mistaken
Imarevenant
Arrows
The Shape

Those were my choices last night... Of them, supermareo was by far the most suspicious.

[The Shape]

???

I missing what your trying to say here. sorry.

There's stage one, which you do a lot, and stage two, which you could do once. Right?

I still think that you should do stage one the same as I said, but stage two I'm not so sure. I still think it would have a chance of paying off but this day so far has led me to believe that stage two would be better suited to somebody else. That ok?

HOWEVER, with the bus driving coming first and so on it'll still be a while before stage two is possible, and by then it should be fairly clear cut.

[The Shape]

Why is he an odd choice?

supermareo
Tha Black Phenom
Actarus
mistaken
Imarevenant
Arrows
The Shape

Those were my choices last night... Of them, supermareo was by far the most suspicious.

lol WHY?

[mjdgoldeneye]

lol WHY?

Why not? His role hasn't been proven to exist whatsoever!

But, actually, his behavior was my primary reason for choosing him... It seemed like everything I saw him do was the opposite or different from what I would do.

[The Shape]

Why not? His role hasn't been proven to exist whatsoever!

You know, this seriously didn't cross my mind lol. Hrmm.

[The Shape]

*yawn*

Change Vote: Actarus

I still simply cannot and will not bring myself to trust Arrows whatsoever but that's not going to get in the way of this. I just can't see beyond Actarus being the killer.

[Antithesis]

There is a hint about someone looking for heretics and the supernatural .. a mention about the wrath of god.

Night 5

Thats a priest hint

Night 5 also, the write up where I hire actarus. It states plainly that he (yes his role is masculine) was close to another discovery. Which fits what he claimed to that point.

If we go simply by the write ups the only person I am not certain of is TBP.

[Antithesis]

Can anyone prove TBP is female?

[Antithesis]

It is now Day Phase 9. With 16 remaining it is 9 for majority. You have until noon EST Friday November 14th to reach majority.

Moe Hunter - 9 (Arrows, Glotnot, comradebot, supermareo, mistaken, Actarus, foolinc, Prophet, imarevenant)

iMac - 4 (Tha Black Phenom,Moe Hunter, mjdgoldeneye, the Shape)

Day Phase is Over!

Actarus, Arrows, Mareo, or TBP

Thats my thoughts on, unless a massive scam is going on, at least one, most probably two or more, are scum.

[Antithesis]

I keep thinking, what would Outlaw do...

Vote Arrows

I don't think he'd believe that roleclaim for a minute.

[The Shape]

Can anyone prove TBP is female?

The role definitely exists, it killed Slim (who's likely to have targeted TBP for whatever reason I think).

And a final note on my part...what do we have on actarus as far as writeups go? Because the research stuff just struck me, as though maybe with Nikk out of the way he got his hands on it, rather than continuing his legacy. It's very ambiguous.

[Antithesis]

The role definitely exists, it killed Slim (who's likely to have targeted TBP for whatever reason I think).

And a final note on my part...what do we have on actarus as far as writeups go? Because the research stuff just struck me, as though maybe with Nikk out of the way he got his hands on it, rather than continuing his legacy. It's very ambiguous.

Like maybe Nikk's writing were stolen when he was killed, sorta?

[iMac]

I seriously have to go to bed. Remember folks, we've got until noon EST on Thursday to make our minds up, so don't do anything rash. ;)

Night all!

[Arrows]

I keep thinking, what would Outlaw do...

Vote Arrows

I don't think he'd believe that roleclaim for a minute.

Yea?

He'd be wrong too.

Go ahead, mislynch me.

10.

Kill and a recruitment.

9.

3 Pack if they'tre the ones recruiting. Likely 2 maf.

Town's out numbered.

Good idea.

[Antithesis]

Yea?

He'd be wrong too.

Go ahead, mislynch me.

10.

Kill and a recruitment.

9.

3 Pack if they'tre the ones recruiting. Likely 2 maf.

Town's out numbered.

Good idea.


You are correct.

We should lynch someone with a less ridiculous role claim, who seems even less scummy, and improve the town's chances.... :rolleyes:

[Arrows]

You are correct.

We should lynch someone with a less ridiculous role claim, who seems even less scummy, and improve the town's chances.... :rolleyes:

Chances of getting scum by lynching me? 0. Even you know I'm not the gunman or recruiter.

[mjdgoldeneye]

There is a mountain of reasons why Arrows SHOULD be a bad guy...

Actarus I'm willing to believe only because Arrows makes so much more sense!

Circumstantial evidence or Mr. "Yea, my role can do everything, anything, or nothing, and I'll make sure I tell you once I know what sounds good today. Oh, and if I give too many details, apparently I explode or something, so no real questioning of me is allowed (But, I can go as far as explicitly explaining the system that determines the odds of me using my powers and give my role title)! Did I mention I'm a miller?"...

[Arrows]

There is a mountain of reasons why Arrows SHOULD be a bad guy...

Actarus I'm willing to believe only because Arrows makes so much more sense!

Circumstantial evidence or Mr. "Yea, my role can do everything, anything, or nothing, and I'll make sure I tell you once I know what sounds good today. Oh, and if I give too many details, apparently I explode or something, so no real questioning of me is allowed (But, I can go as far as explicitly explaining the system that determines the odds of me using my powers and give my role title)! Did I mention I'm a miller?"...

SHOULD, be a bad guy. Not IS a bad guy. I never said I exploded either. The close about my soul being taken=I can be killed.

[mjdgoldeneye]

SHOULD, be a bad guy. Not IS a bad guy. I never said I exploded either. The close about my soul being taken=I can be killed.

Your role, true or not, is absolutely wacky.

If ya'll want to lynch Actarus, go ahead, but Arrows will still be here tomorrow, and unless Actarus is the last bad guy, I doubt we'll be able to think with the elephant in the room!

[Arrows]

Your role, true or not, is absolutely wacky.

If ya'll want to lynch Actarus, go ahead, but Arrows will still be here tomorrow, and unless Actarus is the last bad guy, I doubt we'll be able to think with the elephant in the room!

Never said it wasn't.

Elephant? I weigh like, 20 pounds.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Never said it wasn't.

Elephant? I weigh like, 20 pounds.

Hmm... Maybe instead of lynching you, we can just attach some balloons to you and let you float away...

[Antithesis]

Chances of getting scum by lynching me? 0. Even you know I'm not the gunman or recruiter.

You left during the night.

I cannot say with 100% certainty that you are not the recruiter.

1) Moe's comment about you and the pack
2) Your girly friend was Pack aligned. What reason is there for a cult to recruit a noobie, much les one thats likes to talk alot, unless maybe she knows someone in the cult already?
3) Sure, you shared info about hypnotism that ultimately lead to Trypio's lynch... however you waited a while before doing it. Maybe you've played secretive types too long, but in this game, it doesn't look good.
4) Also consider you seemed to know more about the hypnotism than other hypnotized people did. Still not certain why.
5) If you know for a fact you arent the recruiter, then why didn't you vote on Imarevenant. I mean he was blocked the night before last... a night no recruitment occurred. He'd be the next logical suspect.. right?

[Antithesis]

I will say this, if the Pack remains then it would seem Actarus was wrong with his "The Pack can have no more than 4 members" Line.

Night 5 Orange Kun dies recruiting someone.

Night 6 SF dies.. no recruitment apparent

Day 7 Petrija killed by MJ

Night 7 a new recruitment

Day 8 Trypio lynched

Night 8 BP dead

[Arrows]

You left during the night.

I cannot say with 100% certainty that you are not the recruiter.

You roleblock. Not "Kinda roleblock". Me leaving was flavor text. Nothing more.

1) Moe's comment about you and the pack

I don't know why he got that. No clue at all.

2) Your girly friend was Pack aligned. What reason is there for a cult to recruit a noobie, much les one thats likes to talk alot, unless maybe she knows someone in the cult already?

She started Pack? I wouldn't recruit her. Too obvious.

3) Sure, you shared info about hypnotism that ultimately lead to Trypio's lynch... however you waited a while before doing it. Maybe you've played secretive types too long, but in this game, it doesn't look good.

I'd just peiced it all together. Sorry.

4) Also consider you seemed to know more about the hypnotism than other hypnotized people did. Still not certain why.

Like? I simply know what my PM told me, what was in this thread, and what my brain came up with. When I got to where I felt like I knew what was going on, I shared it with everyone, and we lynched the hypnotist. Go figure.

5) If you know for a fact you arent the recruiter, then why didn't you vote on Imarevenant. I mean he was blocked the night before last... a night no recruitment occurred. He'd be the next logical suspect.. right?

Last time I was sure I knew and pushed, I was wrong, and we lost a man. I would rather not push a lynch on another and lose him and be wrong, especially one that doesn't die.


For ease. Really sick right now.

[Antithesis]

So we are back at the beginning.

Actarus or Arrows.

Was it a Pack recruitment or a Mafia recruitment?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Do we know that the Pack can recruit? If so, logic would say it's Pack...

[Antithesis]

I will say this, if the Pack remains then it would seem Actarus was wrong with his "The Pack can have no more than 4 members" Line.

Night 5 Orange Kun dies recruiting someone.

Night 6 SF dies.. no recruitment apparent

Day 7 Petrija killed by MJ

Night 7 a new recruitment

Day 8 Trypio lynched

Night 8 BP dead

Actually look at this

Night 5 Orange dies

next recruitment.. night 7 (the one day delay while a new recruiter is made ((like it should be))

Day 8 trypio dies.... next recruitment won't be until night 10

Next recruitment comes.. night 10

[Antithesis]

Do we know that the Pack can recruit? If so, logic would say it's Pack...

The night 5 write up shows pack member Orange Kun recruiting someone so, uh, I'd say so

[Antithesis]

Actarus' research results


Night 1: at night, the Pack can recruit or kill
Night 2: once the Z virus has been passed once, it becomes non-contagious
Night 3: I read a passage that indicated that darkness shall go away on the fifth night, but the passage ended there
Night 4: Talked to an attractive woman all night (COMRADEBOOOT! )
Night 5: No research; hired by Anti (ANTIIII! ...also, why would you hire a NERD to protect you)
Night 6: the Pack can only have a maximum of 4 members at one time
Night 7: there's roughly a 1:4 ratio of mafia to Lakeside

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (mjdgoldeneye, Antithesis)

Actarus - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape)

Work sucked, and now I'm tired.

[Bear]

Actually look at this

Night 5 Orange dies

next recruitment.. night 7 (the one day delay while a new recruiter is made ((like it should be))

Day 8 trypio dies.... next recruitment won't be until night 10

Next recruitment comes.. night 10

Are you thinking or a Night cool down for usurping? Wouldn't that make the recruit possible on Night 9?

[Antithesis]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (mjdgoldeneye, Antithesis)

Actarus - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape)

Work sucked, and now I'm tired.

So tired you miscounted the votes....

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (mjdgoldeneye, Antithesis)

Actarus - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape)

[Bear]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (mjdgoldeneye, Antithesis)

Actarus - 2 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape)

Work sucked, and now I'm tired.

1. Is that vote count right?

2. I probably will only be able to help you with making gear by intarwebs tomorrow. I have to go in before class tomorrow to tutor someone in Flash.

[Antithesis]

Are you thinking or a Night cool down for usurping? Wouldn't that make the recruit possible on Night 9?

You are right.

It would work the way lynching a Don does.

Lynch a Don day 1

Mafia gets a new Don at the end of Night 1

Day 2, blah happens

Night 2, Mafia can again kill.

Unless the mods changed it, should work the same as a Don switching over.

[Bear]

You are right.

It would work the way lynching a Don does.

Lynch a Don day 1

Mafia gets a new Don at the end of Night 1

Day 2, blah happens

Night 2, Mafia can again kill.

Unless the mods changed it, should work the same as a Don switching over.

Who did you roleblock Night 9?

[Astil]

So tired you miscounted the votes....

2 is the new 3

ALSO: Predictions http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?t=36123&page=2

YEAH!

[mistaken]

There's stage one, which you do a lot, and stage two, which you could do once. Right?

I still think that you should do stage one the same as I said, but stage two I'm not so sure. I still think it would have a chance of paying off but this day so far has led me to believe that stage two would be better suited to somebody else. That ok?

HOWEVER, with the bus driving coming first and so on it'll still be a while before stage two is possible, and by then it should be fairly clear cut.

gotcha

[Tha Black Phenom]

Actually look at this

Night 5 Orange dies

next recruitment.. night 7 (the one day delay while a new recruiter is made ((like it should be))

Day 8 trypio dies.... next recruitment won't be until night 10

Next recruitment comes.. night 10

Aye, as I said, I somewhat guessed it was an alternating system, like with the don. Just didn't keep up with the nights themselves.

But yeah, if Arrows can't be the killer or recruiter, we best look for someone else, no? But I still have my doubts on him.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 2 (mjdgoldeneye, Antithesis)

Actarus - 3 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape)

[Bear]

Aye, as I said, I somewhat guessed it was an alternating system, like with the don. Just didn't keep up with the nights themselves.

But yeah, if Arrows can't be the killer or recruiter, we best look for someone else, no? But I still have my doubts on him.

The recruitment wasn't until Night 10, but that doesn't mean that's when it had to be. Maybe they couldn't Night 9.

[Antithesis]

Who did you roleblock Night 9?

Rev...

[Bear]

Rev...

Do you follow?

[Antithesis]

Dont even know if its a Pack recruitment.

Not sure if its enough to lynch a claimed bulletproof townie this late in the game.

Sometimes Mafia will get to recruit a person (usually once per game) they might be what's called a mafia Traitor, or a regular townie with storyline reasons to join the mafia.

[Bear]

Dont even know if its a Pack recruitment.

Not sure if its enough to lynch a claimed bulletproof townie this late in the game.

Sometimes Mafia will get to recruit a person (usually once per game) they might be what's called a mafia Traitor, or a regular townie with storyline reasons to join the mafia.

I've seen them before and I think it might be more likely than Pack still floating around but since we're considering Act as a plausible lynch, me may have to rethink his info. Has Rev actually claimed bulletproof?

[Antithesis]

I've seen them before and I think it might be more likely than Pack still floating around but since we're considering Act as a plausible lynch, me may have to rethink his info. Has Rev actually claimed bulletproof?

He got stabbed one night and was listed as "injured" unable to post for the day.. then came back.


I don't think he's actually been shot yet.

[Bear]

He got stabbed one night and was listed as "injured" unable to post for the day.. then came back.


I don't think he's actually been shot yet.

I don't think his inquiry takes precedence, but our journalist friend could have a target for tonight.

[mistaken]

I am not going to tell anyone whom I am going to bus drive.

but this seems a pretty big decision, and though I am glad I gave the view finder to bear, I totally forgot when I did so that he is roleblocked often, while protecting anti (I was more concerned that I not give it to scum, and was in parania mode)

so some good advise one who might make a good pair to swap and what we might learn by doing so would be much apprieciated.

[The Shape]

In my eyes, revealing who you're going to switch completely defeats the purpose of it, especially this late in the game.

However, there are certain people who messing with can only have bad consequences...if you get what I mean.

[The Shape]

However...I think the chance to maybe nullify the newfound recruitment is one that could make the next few days much easier and stop us getting caught up fighting another big battle on two fronts...but that depends on today's result.

[The Shape]

11 players left, I'm thinking 1 or 2 mafia and 2 pack (atm). The "we've just begun" thing with Prophet's kills...maybe there's one more indie type lurking around as well. So it's tight.

But if we lynch Act all being well mafia are down to one at most...bus driving stops recruitment tonight (or at least, it will if one of the two I have in mind is the one doing it), another scum lynch the next day and it's pretty much over, especially if mistaken robs the most recently suggested grave ;)

[Antithesis]

So, lynch Actarus, hope that mistaken's been paying enough attention that
1) he doesn't get a townie killed
2) screws up a scum kill or a Pack recruitment thereby allowing us to focus on additional scum the next phase?

And give me another day to hopefully, and clearly, block scum and perhaps another for MJ to investigate scum.

Sounds good


Change vote: Actarus

[Bear]

So, lynch Actarus, hope that mistaken's been paying enough attention that
1) he doesn't get a townie killed
2) screws up a scum kill or a Pack recruitment thereby allowing us to focus on additional scum the next phase?

And give me another day to hopefully, and clearly, block scum and perhaps another for MJ to investigate scum.

Sounds good


Change vote: Actarus

I think at the moment, it's the best decision for us. I'm gonna double check when Day Phase ends.

[Arrows]

So, lynch Actarus, hope that mistaken's been paying enough attention that
1) he doesn't get a townie killed
2) screws up a scum kill or a Pack recruitment thereby allowing us to focus on additional scum the next phase?

And give me another day to hopefully, and clearly, block scum and perhaps another for MJ to investigate scum.

Sounds good


Change vote: Actarus

Goodluck tonight, to you and Mistaken.

Vote: Actarus

Let's hope this works.

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 5 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Antithesis, Arrows)

[Antithesis]

Goodluck tonight, to you and Mistaken.

Vote: Actarus

Let's hope this works.

Now why would you do that?

What if Actarus is lakeside aligned?

Wasn't it yesterday you said you didn't want to have your name on a townie lynch?

Are you that certain Actarus is scum?


btw

change vote: none

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 4 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows)

[Antithesis]

I'd like for everyone thats voting on Actarus to lay out their reason's why.

I've listed mine in the past few pages. I ask this not because I think Actarus is town, but because there may be multiple scum groups. And depending upon what alignment Act has, the vote, and the justifications given for it, could tell us alot about those who voted, and those who didn't.

[The Shape]

I'd like for everyone thats voting on Actarus to lay out their reason's why.

I've listed mine in the past few pages. I ask this not because I think Actarus is town, but because there may be multiple scum groups. And depending upon what alignment Act has, the vote, and the justifications given for it, could tell us alot about those who voted, and those who didn't.

To me, either him or mareo has to be the hitman.

They are the only ones whose whereabouts we've known nothing of consistently for several nights. But last night mareo was allegedly cleared by an MJD investigation. Meanwhile Act's equipment supposedly being destroyed by someone we have heard nothing else of since...it just doesn't seem right.

[Bear]

I'd like for everyone thats voting on Actarus to lay out their reason's why.

I've listed mine in the past few pages. I ask this not because I think Actarus is town, but because there may be multiple scum groups. And depending upon what alignment Act has, the vote, and the justifications given for it, could tell us alot about those who voted, and those who didn't.

Actarus' 'info' is holding us back. If we know if his info is bogus or not, that'll lead us to looking at different people. If the Pack can have more than 4, you and I both know who to look at.

[Antithesis]

In addition to everything else, there is this

mjdgoldeneye - 15 (Antithesis, iMac, ShadowedFlames, petrija, The Archer, Actarus, Slim Jim, Orange-kun, comradebot, machinesxe, blackphoenix, Crychon, Prophet, treton, bak42)


That vote started as a dispute between myself, Derek and MJ over Mj's results. It blew up when Shadoweded came in and seemed to claim MJ was lying about his night actions.

You'll notice quite a few pack and Mafia names on this vote. MJ was just a vote or two away from being lynched.

Take this then add in the other things that have been mentioned and its easy to have doubts.

I'd rather have people voice those doubts with their votes then just show up and say, 'I hope this works' then vote. Because if you are a townie, you don't want to lynch just anybody, you want to lynch the guy you think is the scummiest.

[mistaken]

Actarus is making the same kind of claim that already turned up scum. being related to one of the people dead when the game started, giving us no way to confrim it.

Then he book suddenly get stolen, when that we know of nothing else in this game has been stolen from a living person. you can look at the use of my power/ what I said I was going to steal to see that I did not take it. (not that I could, but if you wanted to argue I wasn't being honest about my power)

he can't really vouch for his where abouts, and I don't believe that a vanilla player would have lasted this long. he lost his library because he became the hitman.

Keep vote: Actarus but I would always willingly lynch arrows, even if he is town, the amount we learn about others by his lynch would be great...but Arrows is scum.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 5 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows, mistaken)

[Tha Black Phenom]

Actarus - 5 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows, mistaken)

Shenanigans!

[Tha Black Phenom]

And well to me, signs point to him being scum. He had the role, then 'lost' it, and by process of elimination he seems to be one of the only ones more likely to be the killer.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 4 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows)

grr

[mistaken]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 4 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows)

grr

I Said Keep vote, not change, not vote but KEEP.

sorry. :p

[Astil]

I Said Keep vote, not change, not vote but KEEP.

sorry. :p

grrr...

Hit a man while he's tried....

[Arrows]

I'd like for everyone thats voting on Actarus to lay out their reason's why.

I've listed mine in the past few pages. I ask this not because I think Actarus is town, but because there may be multiple scum groups. And depending upon what alignment Act has, the vote, and the justifications given for it, could tell us alot about those who voted, and those who didn't.

I don't think a no lynch is the way to go at the moment. We need to gain some ground on the scum groups, or we could be in for a really bad ride if things continue the way they are.

So I look at the list of active players.

1. Bear-I'm not entirely sure how Anti's ability works, if he hires scum and dies, Bear would be cleared. Hiring Bear also hasn't seemed to stop anything, suggesting Bear's not reponsible for anything that's happened.

7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo-Has been proven as the priest, though his town alignment is still in question. I don't think he'd be a likely pick for the Pack though, and I doubt he started a mafia priest.

10. Tha Black Phenom-Not really sure too much on this one.

13. Actarus-Claims he lost his ability. Wouldn't the recruiter/killer lose theirs, to become those?

15. mistaken-Claims to still have his abilities, which can be proven tonight with the bus driving. If he does, he can't be running around killing people or recruiting people, AND doing his at the same time.

16. mjdgoldeneye-Claims he's still investigating. He's one of the guys I think would be someone worth recruiting, so I've been keeping my eyes on him. Not sure if he has been or not.

21. Imarevenant-Much like the above, he's one of the guys I'd like us to keep our eyes on. Recruiting him would be a solid move by any group.

25. Antithesis-Still has his ability. Couldn't be responsible for the gun fight last night, or the recruitment, as he was at home. I believe hes still tonw, unless he was Mafia from the start.

28. Arrows-I know I'm town.

35. The Shape-Still delivering notes. Can't be responsible for either of the things that happened last night.

37. iMac-Was there to protect Anti last night. While I can't help but wonder WHY he would protect someone who can get their own protection every night, he can't be the recruiter or killer, as he was busy in a gun fight against the gunman.

Given those thoughts about the current situation, I feel Act may be our best move towards finding and eliminating the problems. If he's the new gunman, eliminating him will force someone else to lose their powers, thus exposing them to us.

If he's the recruiter, the same would happen.

Out of everyone up there, Act seems the most likely to me right now, and that's where my vote went.

[mistaken]

ok seems an odd question, as shape two nights in a row left me notes, one which has proven true and the other which if I get a chance to use will prove equally as beneficial.

but WHERE is Shape getting his info?

does he pick a target and the mods dole out usefull info to that person? or is he the mafia don pulling our strings? (the last I don't think as likely as he has provided a wide range of backed up clues, the don wouldn't have an in on the pack, the undead and every one else in town would they? (that is an honest question))

[Antithesis]

ok seems an odd question, as shape two nights in a row left me notes, one which has proven true and the other which if I get a chance to use will prove equally as beneficial.

but WHERE is Shape getting his info?

does he pick a target and the mods dole out usefull info to that person? or is he the mafia don pulling our strings? (the last I don't think as likely as he has provided a wide range of backed up clues, the don wouldn't have an in on the pack, the undead and every one else in town would they? (that is an honest question))

shape left you a note and me a poem?

how many nights has he been able to deliver 2 messages?

[Arrows]

shape left you a note and me a poem?

how many nights has he been able to deliver 2 messages?

I think he's said that was his night 5 advancement.

[The Shape]

ok seems an odd question, as shape two nights in a row left me notes, one which has proven true and the other which if I get a chance to use will prove equally as beneficial.

but WHERE is Shape getting his info?

does he pick a target and the mods dole out usefull info to that person? or is he the mafia don pulling our strings? (the last I don't think as likely as he has provided a wide range of backed up clues, the don wouldn't have an in on the pack, the undead and every one else in town would they? (that is an honest question))

They send me the poems and I choose who to deliver them to; the notes, I go based on my own assumptions with things I think are best kept private, and send them to someone else.

shape left you a note and me a poem?

how many nights has he been able to deliver 2 messages?

Since night 5. I mentioned a change at the time but generally they've been things I wouldn't want out in the open.

The first note went to machinesxe, second to Lostrelms, third to someone else who's still alive and the last two to mistaken.

In most instances I've at least briefly discussed the notes in the thread with their receptor.

[mistaken]

shape left you a note and me a poem?

how many nights has he been able to deliver 2 messages?

I got a note on night 9 to search gruntmarks body, which I did on night 10. night 10 I got another note in reguards to another body.

after i pull of the bus drive tonight, night 12 I will indeed search that body. so it will be night13 before I can put that power to use, if we make it that far. Which is why i mentioned the note earlier (yesterday during full disclosure) but why I will not out what the note says, as it really pertains to only a dead body and will not help us with the lynch.

[Tha Black Phenom]

I don't think a no lynch is the way to go at the moment. We need to gain some ground on the scum groups, or we could be in for a really bad ride if things continue the way they are.

So I look at the list of active players.

1. Bear-I'm not entirely sure how Anti's ability works, if he hires scum and dies, Bear would be cleared. Hiring Bear also hasn't seemed to stop anything, suggesting Bear's not reponsible for anything that's happened.

7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo-Has been proven as the priest, though his town alignment is still in question. I don't think he'd be a likely pick for the Pack though, and I doubt he started a mafia priest.

10. Tha Black Phenom-Not really sure too much on this one.

13. Actarus-Claims he lost his ability. Wouldn't the recruiter/killer lose theirs, to become those?

15. mistaken-Claims to still have his abilities, which can be proven tonight with the bus driving. If he does, he can't be running around killing people or recruiting people, AND doing his at the same time.

16. mjdgoldeneye-Claims he's still investigating. He's one of the guys I think would be someone worth recruiting, so I've been keeping my eyes on him. Not sure if he has been or not.

21. Imarevenant-Much like the above, he's one of the guys I'd like us to keep our eyes on. Recruiting him would be a solid move by any group.

25. Antithesis-Still has his ability. Couldn't be responsible for the gun fight last night, or the recruitment, as he was at home. I believe hes still tonw, unless he was Mafia from the start.

28. Arrows-I know I'm town.

35. The Shape-Still delivering notes. Can't be responsible for either of the things that happened last night.

37. iMac-Was there to protect Anti last night. While I can't help but wonder WHY he would protect someone who can get their own protection every night, he can't be the recruiter or killer, as he was busy in a gun fight against the gunman.

Given those thoughts about the current situation, I feel Act may be our best move towards finding and eliminating the problems. If he's the new gunman, eliminating him will force someone else to lose their powers, thus exposing them to us.

If he's the recruiter, the same would happen.

Out of everyone up there, Act seems the most likely to me right now, and that's where my vote went.

supermareo's been cleared by MJD though, right?

So this settles it.. it's really between two people at this point.

[supermareo]

I'd like for everyone thats voting on Actarus to lay out their reason's why.

I've listed mine in the past few pages. I ask this not because I think Actarus is town, but because there may be multiple scum groups. And depending upon what alignment Act has, the vote, and the justifications given for it, could tell us alot about those who voted, and those who didn't.

ok heres why im going to vote Actarus

first off theres the fact he's apparently lost his power in mysterious circumstances, the only person who claims to get powers from other people is mistaken and he only gets them from there corpses, also weve had no other reported incidents of powers being stolen

he's the one of a couple of people whos actions etc are not accounted for in any way mjd investigated me, whilst i cant prove anything i was out investigating anti, anti was definatly at home nad hired arrows, whos dissaperance halfway through is still suspicious to me the more i think about it the more i get the feeling he's been recruited by the pack rather than the mafia hitman, imac was also at anti's protecting him, mistaken was out searching bodies, bear whilst not being used as normal the last two nights used the tracking power he recived the previous night and therefore couldn be the mafia hitman that night, so unlikely to be the hitman at all, imares a difficult one but i cant see a mafia hitman being unkillable at night, tha black phenom claims female the mafia hitmans male seems to be a pgo type aswell and the shape is still delivering notes

so all in all

vote: Actarus

[Tha Black Phenom]

There's also the possibility MJD has been recruited and in cahoots with mareo and "cleared" him to get attention of him.

But hey. I'm just covering all bases, as a certain someone would say. :p

[iMac]

Hullo all. Give me a chance to catch up, but from what I can see, it looks like hammer time.

[Antithesis]

There's also the possibility MJD has been recruited and in cahoots with mareo and "cleared" him to get attention of him.

But hey. I'm just covering all bases, as a certain someone would say. :p

Thats occurred to me more than once.

It bothers me that Mafia would try to kill someone who is protected (me) and leaves other targets alone. Them wasting a kill attempt last night phase may have cost them the game.

Guess we will see though.

[d_w_w]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 5 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows, supermareo)

[iMac]

OK, after reading back, I agree Actarus is very suspicious. I don't mind being the one to drop the hammer, but I can't get this nagging feeling out of my head.

What if Arrows is the recruiter, and we let him survive another day, only for him to recruit again tonight? Then we could be worse of.

Still need something to totally convince me.

[Antithesis]

Since this is about to wrap up. For anyone else out there that has their doubts about me.

Confirmed town by Archer and MJ
Confirmed Female by multiple people and a write up
Mafia killer.. male
Recruiter.. male
Person Recruited.. Male
Confirmed Target of attempted Mafia hit by Imac and others
Aside from the mislynch on Rock 13 I have a pretty good voting record game for lynching scum.

I understand that I may seem so obviously townie that you might worry someone is trying to slip one by you. I assure you thats not the case. Please use this night phase to check out people who, by all rights, should be far more suspicious than I am. A little luck and a little thought and Lakeside can have this game won in a phase or 2.

[Antithesis]

Remaining players

1. Bear
7. aikmitt822 -> supermareo
10. Tha Black Phenom
13. Actarus
15. mistaken
16. mjdgoldeneye
21. Imarevenant
25. Antithesis
28. Arrows
35. The Shape
37. iMac


The vote

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 5 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows, supermareo)


The 5 non voters
Myself, imac, Actarus, Rev, and Bear

Since I doubt Actarus will vote himself, if Rev or Bear won't vote, I'll hammer. And, given the results, we can go from there.

[Actarus]

Whoa,

Now there’re 5 votes on me. D’OH! Unfortunately, there’s nothing I can add / argue / dispute over the last…what, 10 pages or so. All the clues / evidence have been presented. In the end, people believe what they want to believe; I can say in two mafia games that I’ve never killed anyone, and that’d be true, but who’d believe me at this point? While I’d like to live on, I’m not the type to argue tooth and nail to change one’s beliefs. The proof to that statement can be found in Gotham mafia. In fact, I’ll quote myself from that game.

Do as you wish.

[Arrows]

supermareo's been cleared by MJD though, right?

So this settles it.. it's really between two people at this point.

There's also the possibility MJD has been recruited and in cahoots with mareo and "cleared" him to get attention of him.

But hey. I'm just covering all bases, as a certain someone would say. :p

I'm really beyond trusting investigations at this point. Anyone could be pack.

Thats occurred to me more than once.

It bothers me that Mafia would try to kill someone who is protected (me) and leaves other targets alone. Them wasting a kill attempt last night phase may have cost them the game.

Guess we will see though.

I'm REALLY curious why they did that. They figure it wouldn't show up in our PMs, and whoever you blocked could easily be framed?

OK, after reading back, I agree Actarus is very suspicious. I don't mind being the one to drop the hammer, but I can't get this nagging feeling out of my head.

What if Arrows is the recruiter, and we let him survive another day, only for him to recruit again tonight? Then we could be worse of.

Still need something to totally convince me.

I was role blocked and a recruitment happened. I really don't know what to tell ya there.

Since this is about to wrap up. For anyone else out there that has their doubts about me.

Confirmed town by Archer and MJ
Confirmed Female by multiple people and a write up
Mafia killer.. male
Recruiter.. male
Person Recruited.. Male
Confirmed Target of attempted Mafia hit by Imac and others
Aside from the mislynch on Rock 13 I have a pretty good voting record game for lynching scum.

I understand that I may seem so obviously townie that you might worry someone is trying to slip one by you. I assure you thats not the case. Please use this night phase to check out people who, by all rights, should be far more suspicious than I am. A little luck and a little thought and Lakeside can have this game won in a phase or 2.

You are one of very few I'm actually secure about at this point. The only way I see you being scum, is if you started as mafia. I don't think that's the case.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 5 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows, supermareo)

[Tha Black Phenom]

I'm really beyond trusting investigations at this point. Anyone could be pack.

Yeah, but mareo got investigated last night tho. He could well be an exception.. for the time being.

[iMac]

Since Astil is online and Actarus offered very little in his defence, let's get it over with...

Vote: Actarus

Hopefully we've made the right choice.

[Astil]

It is now Day Phase 11. You have until noon EST Thursday November 20th to achieve majority. With 11 remaining it is 6 for majority.

Arrows - 1 (mjdgoldeneye)

Actarus - 6 (Tha Black Phenom, mistaken, The Shape, Arrows, supermareo, iMac)

Day Phase is Over.

[Astil]

Day Phase 11

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4269/lakesidegy3.jpg

They moved quickly, surrounding the man who claimed he had lost everything. He offered little as they marched him to the store and hung him high.

Actarus is dead. He was Pack Aligned

It is now Night Phase 11. You have until 2:00 PM EST November 20th to get Role PM to Astil and d_w_w

[Actarus]

/ Gets up again after being hanged

Good game, everyone.

/ Dies again.

[iMac]

Day Phase 11

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4269/lakesidegy3.jpg

They moved quickly, surrounding the man who claimed he had lost everything. He offered little as they marched him to the store and hung him high.

Actarus is dead. He was Pack Aligned

It is now Night Phase 11. You have until 2:00 PM EST November 20th to get Role PM to Astil and d_w_w

Coulda been worse I guess.

[Antithesis]

If there is another recruitment then we will know the Pack still lives.

If that recruitment shows a female being recruited or uses gender neautral language, then people can worry about me. Though if TBP is legit i doubt a recruiter would risk getting silenced, and well, I think a recruiter has to go through my guard to get to me, just like what happened to Moe when he tried to silence me.

MJ isn't useless. Mafia is Mafia, and his investigations can turn them up.

I wouldn't start doubting him until
1) its proven the Pack still exists
2) one of his past investigations turns up wrong
and
3) Several of the more obviously suspicious people wind up town aligned.

Of course by then the game could be determined, but I am hoping that townies make the right choices this night phase.

[Antithesis]

Welp, nevermind.. the pack still lives.

[Antithesis]

Was actuarus blocked or impeded in anyway night 9?

[Tha Black Phenom]

He ain't no killer, but we can take what we can get. Good job everyone. I guess it'll help us not get outnumbered in the next few phases.

[mistaken]

so we have no idea how many the pack had to start, or recruited, as the max of 4 was more than likely bs.

can the pack recruit mafia members?

[Antithesis]

so we have no idea how many the pack had to start, or recruited, as the max of 4 was more than likely bs.

can the pack recruit mafia members?

In most games, to help balance Cults, if a cultist tries to recruit a mafia member, the cultist dies.

They'd have to have some added risk to recruitments otherwise the Cult would overpower everyone (which they often wind up doing anyway)


<---- not a fan of Cults

[The Shape]

When did he say his equipment was destroyed? We can safely assume that's when he started recruiting. A good result, not the one I had in mind but maybe even better, should stop recruiting tonight and there can't be too much left.

[mistaken]

This means that with moe being town, Arrows is almost certianly scum and probably pack right?

[mistaken]

ok, you guys did not give me specific ideas for the bus driver,

so give me some general help.

Better to swap two people I "know' are scum?

better to swap two people I am unsure of?

better to swap a "know" with a town?

better to swap a suspect with a "know"?

better to swap a suspect with a town?

My inclination is to swap two suspects and see how honest they are about their results and what they should have been.

but I can see where swapping a suspect with a 'know' might get intresting, or a known with a town, as the 'know' my kill his own guy.

because we obviously did not get the mafia gunman.

[Tha Black Phenom]

In my eyes, there's definitely one guy who needs to be BD'd, but I can't say obviously.

[mistaken]

In my eyes, there's definitely one guy who needs to be BD'd, but I can't say obviously.

that person needs to be taken out not BD'd

he got BD'd night one, and has talked his way out of it every day since.

[mistaken]

if I didn't need to use this ability to prove I'm still town, I would search the other body Shape sent me in the direction of. then tomorrow night I would have options instead of being so predictable.

[Bear]

Was actuarus blocked or impeded in anyway night 9?

Now that we know Act's info is bogus, I can think of just one person possibly aligned with them.


ok, you guys did not give me specific ideas for the bus driver,

so give me some general help.

Better to swap two people I "know' are scum?

better to swap two people I am unsure of?

better to swap a "know" with a town?

better to swap a suspect with a "know"?

better to swap a suspect with a town?

My inclination is to swap two suspects and see how honest they are about their results and what they should have been.

but I can see where swapping a suspect with a 'know' might get intresting, or a known with a town, as the 'know' my kill his own guy.

because we obviously did not get the mafia gunman.

My POV with bus driving is always to use people as weapons. If you know of someone who's a likely candidate for being targeted, swap them with someone who can fight back. u.u

In my eyes, there's definitely one guy who needs to be BD'd, but I can't say obviously.

You said it.

[Arrows]

If there is another recruitment then we will know the Pack still lives.

If that recruitment shows a female being recruited or uses gender neautral language, then people can worry about me. Though if TBP is legit i doubt a recruiter would risk getting silenced, and well, I think a recruiter has to go through my guard to get to me, just like what happened to Moe when he tried to silence me.

MJ isn't useless. Mafia is Mafia, and his investigations can turn them up.

I wouldn't start doubting him until
1) its proven the Pack still exists
2) one of his past investigations turns up wrong
and
3) Several of the more obviously suspicious people wind up town aligned.

Of course by then the game could be determined, but I am hoping that townies make the right choices this night phase.

I don't trust MJ as far as I can throw him. Only time he found anyone was Derek. Since then, he hasn't done anything, and I really think he'd be a prime recruit possibility, if he's not already Pack. Let's see what happens though.

This means that with moe being town, Arrows is almost certianly scum and probably pack right?

How does that make me certainly scum and probably pack? Seriously. You're a quick witted kid, but you're really wrong on this one.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Well, had I not been in school, I'd have helped lynch as soon as Anti switched to him.

I'd like to point that out so nobody tries to make me look scummy because I'm not online until 3 or later...

[Arrows]

that person needs to be taken out not BD'd

he got BD'd night one, and has talked his way out of it every day since.

So, why should I be killed? If there's no recruitment tonight, that proves Act was the recruiter, which means I can't possibly have been the killer OR the recruiter.

I'm TOWN.

BLUE.

Why don't you people get that?

[mjdgoldeneye]

So, why should I be killed? If there's no recruitment tonight, that proves Act was the recruiter, which means I can't possibly have been the killer OR the recruiter.

Why can't you have been the killer again?

I'm TOWN.

BLUE.

Why don't you people get that?

There is nothing but your word to say you're Lakeside Aligned...

Besides, I don't see why YOU wouldn't have been recruited by now...

[Arrows]

Why can't you have been the killer again?



There is nothing but your word to say you're Lakeside Aligned...

Besides, I don't see why YOU wouldn't have been recruited by now...

Because everyone's been trying to lynch me since DAY ****ING TWO. Why recruit the guy who's prolly gonna get lynched just because of who he is?

I can't be the killer because the killer tried to kill Anti while Anti had me role blocked and protecting him.

[mistaken]

Because everyone's been trying to lynch me since DAY ****ING TWO. Why recruit the guy who's prolly gonna get lynched just because of who he is?

I can't be the killer because the killer tried to kill Anti while Anti had me role blocked and protecting him.

except he hired the killer, um you, and Imac saved him from you.

[Arrows]

except he hired the killer, um you, and Imac saved him from you.

Wrong.

Would you like me to do a closer job of paraphrasing my PM that night?

*I* heard gun shots. There were at least FOUR people there, not counting Anti and myself, from the way I read it.

How was I hearing gunshots and thinking it was a trap to kill me, if I was the one shooting?

[mistaken]

Wrong.

Would you like me to do a closer job of paraphrasing my PM that night?

*I* heard gun shots. There were at least FOUR people there, not counting Anti and myself, from the way I read it.

How was I hearing gunshots and thinking it was a trap to kill me, if I was the one shooting?

you heard the shots from the gun who's trigger you were pulling. :p

[Astil]

For those on 2knikk.2ksite.com, the Phoenix Wright game has begun.

[Bear]

For those on 2knikk.2ksite.com, the Phoenix Wright game has begun.

WERD. DON'T OBJECT!

[mistaken]

wow 12 hours with no activity...I hope tonight in the game turns out as queit as tonight in RL

[mistaken]

Arrows 857
Midnightnick 588
Antithesis 480
petrija 449
mistaken 446
Astil 393
Prophet 326
The Shape 283
Comradebot 265
The Archer 261

we are closing in on 3 our of 4 being living players.

[Bear]

wow 12 hours with no activity...I hope tonight in the game turns out as queit as tonight in RL

It's been pretty quiet everywhere. I'm just going to chalk it up to the Americans gearing up for the holiday. The 'casual gamers' in dww's MMO mafia are doing pretty well for such little posting.

[mistaken]

If he gets all the pms in early, does he end the night phase early? or do people have a chance to change their minds right up until 2?

I only ask cause that is over 4 torturous hours of work from now.

[Tha Black Phenom]

If he gets all the pms in early, does he end the night phase early?

Yes, he does.