Recess Mafia: The Ultimate Rebellion

[Tha Black Phenom]

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Active Players (5):
4. moon_lit_tears
5. bak42
14. Wallbanger
16. Midnightnick
22. Aido

Phases
Day Phase 1 - Lynch of Destiny (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=571114&postcount=542)
Night Phase 1 - No Deaths (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=571690&postcount=614)
Day Phase 2 - Lynch of SeanMcFly & death of The Shape (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=573088&postcount=889)
Night Phase 2 - Death of treton and UFC-KING (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=573847&postcount=913)
Day Phase 3 - Lynch of cappyboy (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=574649&postcount=1057)
Night Phase 3 - Death of masterded (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=575339&postcount=1135)
Day Phase 4 - Lynch of iMac (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=576891&postcount=1386)
Night Phase 4 - Death of Orange-kun, mjdgoldeneye and Gabbo (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=577491&postcount=1432)
Day Phase 5 - Skipped (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=577516&postcount=1451)
Night Phase 5 - Death of Crychon and The Archer (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=578057&postcount=1490)
Day Phase 6 - Lynch of The Two (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=578663&postcount=1573)
Night Phase 6 - No Deaths (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=579215&postcount=1600)
Day Phase 6.5 - Daykill of Slim Jim (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=580109&postcount=1664)
Day Phase 7 - No Lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=580239&postcount=1702)
Night Phase 7 - Death of Glotnot, Actarus, Spikerdude & lprock (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=580763&postcount=1713)


Graveyard
24. Destiny is in a coma. He was Butch: Playground Aligned Avid Horror-Style Storyteller
23. SeanMcFly is gravely injured. He was Ashley Q: Ashleys Aligned Competitive Schemer
8. The Shape is gravely injured. He was Gus Griswald: Playground Aligned Disciplined New Kid
21. treton is in a coma. He was Hector: Playground Aligned Loyal Gus Griswald Follower
3. UFC-KING is in a coma. He was Gretchen Grundler: Playground Aligned Studious Scholar
6. cappyboy is dead. He was Ashley B.: Ashleys Aligned Evil Thinker
7. masterded is dead. He was Michael “Mikey” Blumberg: Playground Aligned Strong Sensitive Soul
12. iMac is dead. He was Gelman: Individual Aligned Fat Bully With a Tortured Soul
19. Orange-kun is gravely injured. She was T.J Detweiler: Playground Aligned Charismatic Ringleader
2. mjdgoldeneye is in a coma. He was Upside-Down Girl: Playground Aligned Informative Bystander
17. Gabbo is gravely injured. He was Muriel P. Finster: Authority Aligned Evil Old Lady
18. Crychon is gravely injured. He was Cornchip Girl: Playground Aligned Girl Who Eats… Cornchips
9. The Archer is in a coma. He was King Bob: Playground Aligned Ruler of the Court
13. The Two is gravely injured. He was Principal Pete Prickly: Authority Aligned Persistent Boss
1. Slim Jim is gravely injured. He was Swinger Girl: Playground Aligned Girl Who Swings, Swings, Swings
11. Glotnot is in a coma. He was Irwin Lawson: Playground Aligned Competitive Arrogant Athlete
25. Spikerdude is in a coma. He was Vince LaSalle: Playground Aligned Potential Athlete
15. Actarus is in a coma. He was The Kindergartners: Playground Aligned Primitive & Degenerate Kids
10. lprock is in a coma. He was Hank the Janitor: Authority Aligned Vengeful Concierge
20. The Aussie is gravely injured. He was Randall C. Weems: Authority Aligned Opportunistic Sneaky Leader

[Tha Black Phenom]

HOW TO PLAY:

- All of you will be PM’d a role and your alignment. The objective is to eliminate all members of the opposing alignment from the game.

- Each player has been given a role with their own special ability. Your PM will explain what it does, if you are meant to know. You don’t have to reveal what your role is to the other players, nor will I do so in my updates. Then again there is nothing to stop you, so if you feel that it may help prove your innocence, go ahead – just keep in mind that this could also backfire and help the mafia. In other words, claim at your own risk. Likewise, you may lie about who you are if you wish. If you want to use your abilities, PM me. DO NOT post it in the thread.

- The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day, and all players (Mafia and Townie alike) post in the thread, deciding who to kill off. Lynching is the only way for the Townies to kill the Mafia, so be sure to examine voting patterns of your fellow players. I might also provide clues in the death write ups, but over-reliance on those is ill-advised as some may be traps. Day phases will last 48 hours or until a consensus is reached. Night phases will last 24 hours but may end earlier if all night activities are concluded.

- All voting and discussion is to occur within the thread. Town players may discuss who they think is Mafia, and Mafia members should be trying to bluff/convince/blend in, and generally try not to get voted for. To vote, post Vote: Username (MUST BE IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote, by typing Change Vote: Username (AGAIN BOLDED!). You can also change your vote to nobody by typing Change Vote: No Vote (IN BOLD!). You can also choose to vote for No Lynching by using Vote: No Lynch (yeah... BOLDED!), meaning you actively vote to not lynch anyone during that day phase rather than passively not voting at all. You must post in the thread for your vote to be counted. You do not have to vote if you do not wish to.

- A Day Phase is over whenever a person obtains more than 50% of the vote (and is lynched) or when the 48 hours run out. If no majority vote has been reached by the time the day phase expires, a no lynch will be declared. Once a person dies, I will reveal their alignment and role.

- Night falls after somebody is executed or a no lynch is achieved. During this time, the Mafia can discuss who they want to kill next (using whatever form of communication appeals to them). Abilities are also used during this time. To use an ability, PM the mod (Glotnot), and I'll PM you the outcome of the ability the following day phase. If it is something serious like somebody getting killed, I will update it in the thread. If possible though, try to PM me what you want to do as soon after night falls as possible to keep things moving along at a quick pace.

- Night ends once I post who gets killed, and the cycle repeats itself. The Town players win if all Mafia members are dead, and vice versa. Remember, this is a team effort, so if you think sacrificing someone may help your cause, go ahead.

-Remember, some roles such as investigators and protectors are more valuable to the town – so try to keep them alive!


RULES:

- I know it’s the Dog Pound, but try not to postwhore in the thread anyway. Feel free to trash talk, accuse, call out other players if you want, but if you’re going to vote, at least state some kind of reason as to why you’re doing so.

- Though I can’t force you to post, I’d love to see active participation. I would advise everyone try to check in with this game at least once a day. Things move fast and you can fall behind pretty easily.

- Once you are dead, you stay dead, and may not participate until the game is over. This includes notes found on your corpse, cryptic messages from the dead, etc, etc. You may also not advise the remaining players on what to do – besides, to prevent cheating, I will not provide the dead with any additional information than they would get if they were still alive. Of course, I’m willing to listen to your theories as to what’s going on. Likewise, I'd appreciate if those not taking part try not help those playing, though general comments on how things are going would be welcomed in the Sign Up Thread.

- Unless your role PM specifically states otherwise, all players may not discuss game plan, your role, or alignment outside the thread. Of course, I can’t enforce this, but I believe secretly revealing information amongst each other would spoil the game, so try not to do it.

- Players are not allowed to edit their posts in this thread at all, as it allows for those who make mistakes to remove all of the evidence without any effort. Since I can't enforce this, I strongly encourage all players to scrutinize any posts they notice that have been edited.

-Players are not allowed to cut and paste anything straight from the Role PM except the Role title. No cutting and pasting from the body of the PM. You can paraphrase what your Role PM says but that is all.

-Please play your role/alignment and play to win. We will be strict about this, so please don't make us enforce it.

-Talking about your role after death or to those who have died IS NOT allowed.

-Not everything is as it seems. If something unexpected happens, feel free to question it to me in private, and if I can, I'll answer.

I reserve the right to mod kill if I find out that any of these rules have been broken. Please remember that you are not the only one playing this game, so don't ruin it for everyone else!

The mod for this game is Tha Black Phenom. All PMs regarding abilities, questions or anything else should be sent to him. If you fail to communicate your information then I will go on what I have. You have been warned!

Let us all keep in mind that this is a game and should be an enjoyable experience.

No one post until I give the ok.

[Tha Black Phenom]

DRRRRRING DRRRRRING!

That sound could only mean one thing.




After grueling math lessons, the kids’ faces illuminated - classes were gushing out of the school door and onto the field where they start having fun and playing recklessly; some showing their skills, some being troublemakers as usual. Everybody was doing their own thing.

They watched from the window up top.

“We can’t let those little brats keep doing this to this. It’s time to act.”

”What do you propose, sir?”

“I don’t know, darn it. But we’ll get it done, even if we have to be reckless. Send her a call, will you?”

“With pleasure!”

--

Onto their shack they make another meeting, and as they assemble for it, they hear sounds outside of the kids playing.

“Ugh.”

“Don’t worry! Everything is falling in motion.”

They deliver a maniacal laugh before all uttering the word which they like to say so well.

--

“MMMM. CAN’T STAND IT ANY MORE! WHERE IS HE!?”

--

"Guess I'll have to take control of things around here again."

--

“…hey.”

“Hi.”

“Does your dad know you’re here--“

“No. No.”

“Great!”

They leave hanging out together. She shows snippets of her strange collection.

--

They started taking one of the first things most precious to the kids. It was the beginning of their movement.

“Sorry Miss, but.. you’re fired.”

“I-- what!?”

“You’re fired. You have 10 seconds to get your belongings out.”

“…”

“We’ll help you on this one.”

She gets dragged all the way off the class onto the first floor, and out of the school property. Landed awkwardly too, she needed to be checked. This wasn’t a good day for her at all. And it was the first of bad upcoming days for the playground.






0. Tha Black Phenom is gravely injured. He was Miss Grotke: Playground Aligned Hippie Teacher

[Tha Black Phenom]

YOU MAY NOW POST.

It is Day Phase 1. With 25 players remaining, there are 13 votes required to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by Friday at 7:00 PM EST, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Spikerdude]

noooo. not miss grotke. Got damn it

[Midnightnick]

Like gosh, it's good to be back in the saddle again. They cut my hours so I mean, if anything. That gives me time to play again, and with those post.

It's double the amount of posts I had in Simpsons and South Park. :rolleyes::o

[Spikerdude]

I'm new here, and I can already tell that is bad news

[The Shape]

I'm new here, and I can already tell that is bad news

Vote: spikerdude :)

[lprock]

Gravey injured, too gruesome to kill them Haz? :p

[Actarus]

Actarus happy game begin.


Like gosh, it's good to be back in the saddle again. They cut my hours so I mean, if anything. That gives me time to play again, and with those post.

It's double the amount of posts I had in Simpsons and South Park. :rolleyes::o

Actarus no like. Actarus thinks post whoring is bad, bad scum tactic. :p:p

[mjdgoldeneye]

Vote: spikerdude :)

With 25 players, I'm ok with an opening lynch, but I'm not a fan of throwing newbies under the bus.

(I don't know if that was a serious vote or not, I'm just saying. :D)

Also, game on at my new site for everyone involved over there. Not much activity yet... Lack of activity is bad, mmkay?

[Spikerdude]

just new to the site. i know how to play the game

[Wallbanger]

Actarus happy game begin.


Actarus no like. Actarus thinks post whoring is bad, bad scum tactic. :p:p

m'kay...representing kindergartener, Actarus?

[Wallbanger]

just new to the site. i know how to play the game

So it's ok to throw you under the bus...good to know. :p

(I kid, I kid.)

[Wallbanger]

/ponders how kindergarten tribe will be depicted in this mafia scenario...

[Glotnot]

After grueling math lessons, the kids’ faces illuminated - classes were gushing out of the school door and onto the field where they start having fun and playing recklessly; some showing their skills, some being troublemakers as usual. Everybody was doing their own thing.

They watched from the window up top.

“We can’t let those little brats keep doing this to this. It’s time to act.”

”What do you propose, sir?”

“I don’t know, darn it. But we’ll get it done, even if we have to be reckless. Send her a call, will you?”

“With pleasure!”

Finster and the Principal guy calling..someone.

Onto their shack they make another meeting, and as they assemble for it, they hear sounds outside of the kids playing.

“Ugh.”

“Don’t worry! Everything is falling in motion.”

They deliver a maniacal laugh before all uttering the word which they like to say so well.

SCANDALOUS! It's the Ashley's. I'm not sure if they'd be one player playing four characters, two players playing two characters...or a four man mafia. Have to consider that Principal Name-I-Don't-Remember, Finster, and whoever they called are probably a scum group as well.

But the Ashley's probably aren't good either.

“MMMM. CAN’T STAND IT ANY MORE! WHERE IS HE!?”

No idea who this is. But if I remember right, Gus often yelled "I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!"

"Guess I'll have to take control of things around here again."

T.J. or King Bob?

“…hey.”

“Hi.”

“Does your dad know you’re here--“

“No. No.”

“Great!”

They leave hanging out together. She shows snippets of her strange collection.

Umm. Dunno.

They started taking one of the first things most precious to the kids. It was the beginning of their movement.

“Sorry Miss, but.. you’re fired.”

“I-- what!?”

“You’re fired. You have 10 seconds to get your belongings out.”

“…”

“We’ll help you on this one.”

She gets dragged all the way off the class onto the first floor, and out of the school property. Landed awkwardly too, she needed to be checked. This wasn’t a good day for her at all. And it was the first of bad upcoming days for the playground.

Bitches fired Ms. Grotke. It's on. :mad:


The Digger Kids are probably masons, tbh.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Actarus happy game begin.

Actarus no like. Actarus thinks post whoring is bad, bad scum tactic. :p:p

m'kay...representing kindergartener, Actarus?

He's one of 2 characters (I can think of) if that's a legit post restriction.

One is a bully (and probably a bad guy) and one is another character I'll not mention.

I don't see a mod giving a bad guy a post restriction, so... yea...

[Actarus]

m'kay...representing kindergartener, Actarus?

Actarus say...maybe ;);)

Actarus has no post restriction, but chooses to post this way...for now...

[Glotnot]

/ponders how kindergarten tribe will be depicted in this mafia scenario...

Glotnot bets Cult.

He remembers one episode where all the kids started acting like Kindergartners after being trapped in their pen.

[Actarus]

Glotnot bets Cult.

He remembers one episode where all the kids started acting like Kindergartners after being trapped in their pen.

Actarus am blue.

[Glotnot]

Actarus am blue.

...So you just claimed the Kindergartners then.

On page 1?

[Glotnot]

Randall 4 traitor, btw.

[treton]

Hi all.

[mjdgoldeneye]

...So you just claimed the Kindergartners then.

On page 1?

I think he claimed a certain kindergartner that's very likely a townie.

[Actarus]

...So you just claimed the Kindergartners then.

On page 1?

Actarus am in character, to try something different and probably incredibly stupid, but if I'm not allowed to experiment with trying different things, then why bother?

[Spikerdude]

it was just T.J. glot

[Glotnot]

it was just T.J. glot

"Spanoodi".

[Wallbanger]

Hmmm...

Finster and the Principal guy calling..someone.

Not sure who, though...

SCANDALOUS! It's the Ashley's. I'm not sure if they'd be one player playing four characters, two players playing two characters...or a four man mafia. Have to consider that Principal Name-I-Don't-Remember, Finster, and whoever they called are probably a scum group as well.

But the Ashley's probably aren't good either.

In a bigger game I would have no issue with this, but a 4-Ashley group and a Prickly-Finster-Weens group, plus othe possible baddies in Earwin, the kindergarteners, etc. -- balance becomes an issue quickly.

No idea who this is. But if I remember right, Gus often yelled "I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!"

/nod. Not sure how else this would be represented

T.J. or King Bob?

King Bob, in my opinion. Likely Mason leader.

Umm. Dunno.

I'm not sure either.

Bitches fired Ms. Grotke. It's on. :mad:

Damn skippy it is.


The Digger Kids are probably masons, tbh.

Not sure about that, see my comments re: King Bob above. Diggers could be siblings, though.

[Spikerdude]

I think he claimed a certain kindergartner that's very likely a townie.

I swear it was just t.j.

And they all talk like that. the fast kid, tubby, and the leader.

T.J. was saying that when they tried to jog his memory

[Spikerdude]

what about those 5th graders. Lawcin and such

bad spelling, I know

[Wallbanger]

I think he claimed a certain kindergartner that's very likely a townie.

Acutally, I can see this. In fact, it's possible this is the only kindergartener in this small game, but that's speculation at this point.

[Spikerdude]

I'm missing something huge apparently. I can't tell a certain one he would be claiming. I would guess who he was, but as for him leaving hints, I'm not picking up on it.

[The Two]

Evening all.

I really have no idea what any of you are talking about. Need to get my revision on, I think.

[Wallbanger]

I'm missing something huge apparently. I can't tell a certain one he would be claiming. I would guess who he was, but as for him leaving hints, I'm not picking up on it.

One of the kindergarteners has a close relationship with one of the main town characters. At least that's the specuation at this point.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Acutally, I can see this. In fact, it's possible this is the only kindergartener in this small game, but that's speculation at this point.

Well, shall I list the possible characters?

At least I can say that with 25 players, things are spread pretty thin...

[Glotnot]

Glotnot will do it.

[Spikerdude]

I'll do it

T.J.
Vince
Spinelli
Gus
Gretchen
Mikey
ashley's (4)
Randall
finster
ms. lemon
principal
diggers [2(note the D)]
bob
kindergartner
upside down girl
that one kid who always tells spooky sotries


that's 21. Could be some i didn't mentioned, and leave some out, but their ya go.

[Glotnot]

Probable Townies

Recess Gang:

T.J.
Spinelli
Gretchen
Mikey
Vince
Gus

Playground Kids:

King Bob
Lawson
Menlo (?) (If Town, then likely recruitable)
Randall (if not scum, then a traitor, if not traitor, then miller)
The Digger Kids (2)
Upsidedown Girl
Cornchip Girl
Swinger Girl
Hustler Kid
Guru Kid
Those nerd kids (3, I think)

Probable Scum

Faculty:

Principal Prickly (I looked it up)
Miss Finster
Miss Lemon

Playground Kids:

The Ashleys (4) (Spinelli is likely recruitable to their cause, also probable that one player is in command of all four in a joint role, so may be JOAT)
Those bad kids

[Glotnot]

I forgot the kindergartners.

Damn.

[Spikerdude]

also the 5th graders, and the superintendent

[Spikerdude]

who the **** is menlo?

[Glotnot]

The one that always wore a tie.

[Spikerdude]

Damn, i need to catch up on the show.

****, what's her name

the girl who eats everything

****. i can't think of her name.

[Spikerdude]

Kurst The Worst

[Crychon]

Well, I've never watched this show in my life, but I'm definitely looking forward to playing a game of GDS mafia that I'll actually be able to keep up with!

[Spikerdude]

I'm out for the night. peace

[Glotnot]

Kurst The Worst

Between the two of us, we know way to much about this show. We really do.

[Glotnot]

Though anyone could find the same information with a trip to Wikipedia. :p

[The Archer]

Though anyone could find the same information with a trip to Wikipedia. :p

need to head there :o

[bak42]

Well, I've never watched this show in my life,

Oh good, I'm not the only person in that boat.

[Crychon]

Oh good, I'm not the only person in that boat.

Nope, I actually don't seem to watch much in the way of cartoons. An episode of South Park or Family Guy here or there, but that's about it.

[UFC-KING]

Alright guys, seems like my luck is improving in mafia games :p

For I Am :

Gretchen Grundler : Playground Aligned Studious Scholar

I have a one shot ability to investigate, and a one shot ability to check a victim's body to find out who killed him/her

[bak42]

What!? UFC isn't scum?:eek: Now who are supposed to lynch on day 1?:p

[Crychon]

Alright guys, seems like my luck is improving in mafia games :p

For I Am :

Gretchen Grundler : Playground Aligned Studious Scholar

I have a one shot ability to investigate, and a one shot ability to check a victim's body to find out who killed him/her

/facepalm

That's all well and good, but townie or not, roleclaiming in your first post? Not a great strategy.

[Actarus]

Alright guys, seems like my luck is improving in mafia games :p

For I Am :

Gretchen Grundler : Playground Aligned Studious Scholar

I have a one shot ability to investigate, and a one shot ability to check a victim's body to find out who killed him/her

And to think Actarus thought Actarus was being too forthcoming...:p

[Midnightnick]

Yeah, revealing yourself as an investigator on Day 1 is smarter than revealing yourself to be scum.

But still. Now that he's out, he's going to have us waste protectors and watchers on him because he's a investigator, meaning the scum that are smart would be going for other people since they'd be sitting ducks. :(

[bak42]

Yeah, revealing yourself as an investigator on Day 1 is smarter than revealing yourself to be scum.

But still. Now that he's out, he's going to have us waste protectors and watchers on him because he's a investigator, meaning the scum that are smart would be going for other people since they'd be sitting ducks. :(

On the other hand, since he's only got one shot on his investigations, once he's used them the protectors can move on to better people to protect.

[Midnightnick]

On the other hand, since he's only got one shot on his investigations, once he's used them the protectors can move on to better people to protect.

He's got the forensic thing too, so the scum would want him dead moreso for that, because it'd get them no problem, while the investigation might pull a townie, or a mafia who appears town you know? I just find outting yourself THAT early to be stupid.

And I'm someone who can't keep quiet about who they are.

[Wallbanger]

Interesting. With those being one-shots, I suspect we have additional resources at our disposal, so yes, even knowing that scum will have some tough choices to make.

[Wallbanger]

He's got the forensic thing too, so the scum would want him dead moreso for that, because it'd get them no problem, while the investigation might pull a townie, or a mafia who appears town you know? I just find outting yourself THAT early to be stupid.

And I'm someone who can't keep quiet about who they are.

I'm glad, though, that he did it with this role instead of a full-time investigator or forensic investigator role. If he can stay alive for two nights then he's served his purpose.

[Astil]

/has nothing to add

[bak42]

He's got the forensic thing too, so the scum would want him dead moreso for that, because it'd get them no problem, while the investigation might pull a townie, or a mafia who appears town you know? I just find outting yourself THAT early to be stupid.

And I'm someone who can't keep quiet about who they are.

Oh, I agree completely that outing yourself this early in the game, especially when there isn't even any pressure being applied, is downright stupid.

[bak42]

I'm glad, though, that he did it with this role instead of a full-time investigator or forensic investigator role. If he can stay alive for two nights then he's served his purpose.
/nod

[The Two]

/facepalm

That's all well and good, but townie or not, roleclaiming in your first post? Not a great strategy.

Unless it's all a cunning plan and he's actually the PGO :p

[bak42]

Unless it's all a cunning plan and he's actually the PGO :p

Doubtful, remember this is the same person who admitted to being scum in the Punk mafia game.

[UFC-KING]

Doubtful, remember this is the same person who admitted to being scum in the Punk mafia game.

Damn, Now I'm a punch line :p

[mjdgoldeneye]

Yeah, revealing yourself as an investigator on Day 1 is smarter than revealing yourself to be scum.

But still. Now that he's out, he's going to have us waste protectors and watchers on him because he's a investigator, meaning the scum that are smart would be going for other people since they'd be sitting ducks. :(

That second paragraph sounds like a ploy to get people to not protect an obvious townie...

Vote: Midnightnick

Because I'd look bad for bringing that up and not voting. ;)

[theoutlaw321]

Damn, Now I'm a punch line :p

More than one....;):cool:

[UFC-KING]

More than one....;):cool:

Oh yeah :p

[Wallbanger]

That second paragraph sounds like a ploy to get people to not protect an obvious townie...

Vote: Midnightnick

Because I'd look bad for bringing that up and not voting. ;)

Is it that, or a way to get folks to second guess whether he'll be covered? Not sure myself.

But I would like to hear Nick's response to mjd's assertation.

VOTE: Midnightnick

So long as I get a satisfactory answer, this vote is very changeable.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Regardless, what he said put doubt on something that surely didn't need it.

It was a ploy or a mistake.

[Midnightnick]

Is it that, or a way to get folks to second guess whether he'll be covered? Not sure myself.

But I would like to hear Nick's response to mjd's assertation.

VOTE: Midnightnick

So long as I get a satisfactory answer, this vote is very changeable.

I didn't state the point to persuade the protectors/watchers not to protect/watch UFC-King, I said it, because now all the focus will be on him, which would cause other players to die since he'll hog up all the resources if they choose him, and the scum choose someone else to kill.

Then again, they could all converge on him and we'd have a repeat of Night 1 of Marvel with everyone protecting/trying to kill me.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Vote Count:
Midnightnick: 2 (mjdgoldeneye, Wallbanger)
Spikerdude: 1 (The Shape)


It is Day Phase 1. With 25 players remaining, there are 13 votes required to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by Friday at 7:00 PM EST, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Astil has been replaced by Orange-kun

[Astil]

Have fun guys.

[Wallbanger]

I didn't state the point to persuade the protectors/watchers not to protect/watch UFC-King, I said it, because now all the focus will be on him, which would cause other players to die since he'll hog up all the resources if they choose him, and the scum choose someone else to kill.

Then again, they could all converge on him and we'd have a repeat of Night 1 of Marvel with everyone protecting/trying to kill me.

/nod

I'm ok with that, and I don't necessarily think it's a mistake.

Change Vote: No Vote

[Wallbanger]

So Bear, you haven't said anything yet...

/tosses him a penny

[Astil]

So Bear, you haven't said anything yet...

/tosses him a penny

Generaly those not playing don't. :cool:

[Wallbanger]

Generaly those not playing don't.

Ah, like you. ;)

[Wallbanger]

And give me my penny back!

[Astil]

And give me my penny back!

Last post, promise.

You get penny when the Scummies are posted. :D

[The Aussie]

Guh.

I'd like to say that I was suprised with UFC-King claiming before but I'm really not anymore.

[The Shape]

With 25 players, I'm ok with an opening lynch, but I'm not a fan of throwing newbies under the bus.

He's not a total newbie, though that doesn't mean a lot. Interesting though, odds of him being scum are as likely as anyone else :cool:

That second paragraph sounds like a ploy to get people to not protect an obvious townie...

Vote: Midnightnick

Because I'd look bad for bringing that up and not voting. ;)

This does improve my confidence a small bit, but I'd say at least one of you and MJD is scum and the spiker link means I'm leaning towards you at the moment, but am more willing to pressure him, in case he's feeling...honest =D

[iMac]

Sorry I missed the start of the game, was studying for an exam last night. Sat it this morning and I reckon I passed, so now time for some mafia.

I vaguely remember watching the show when I was a kid, but all I really know is what I can look up on wikipedia.

Hmm... I'm not sure if I believe UFC-King, but then again, I have no reason not to believe him. Just seems strange to claim so early.

Anyway, don't have any clear idea of who to vote for right now, so I'll wait and see before laying anything down.

[Slim Jim]

I thought I had at least passable knowledge of Recess but already things have been going over my head :p

Still, I think I'm better off than some people, y'know, the ones that haven't watched at all ;)

Nice to be back in the swing of things over here.

These two posts coming consecutively made me smile:
Randall 4 traitor, btw.
Hi all.

And I was going to mention the 'Nick thing that MJD did but that was already picked up on... just seemed like he was trying to start a WIFOM situation for protectors/watchers to try and misdirect them. "Do I protect him or are scum thinking I will and go for someone else or are they assuming I'll think that and go for him... etc."

[Slim Jim]

No one around to talk to? Bah, thought I might get 10-15 minutes of ...something... before I had to go again. Will be back later-ish.

[Gabbo]

Firstly, UFC... that's just... shocking.

If you don't get killed tonight I'd be surprised. You could have easily lay low, used your abilities then claimed day 3 to avoid any suspicion (if you were that desperate to claim)

Sigh...

I'd assume maybe it was a ploy to out the real Gretchen, but it probably wasn't...


Anyway, my knowledge of this show isn't as strong as I thought. Haven't seen it for years however researching things on wiki, from the write-ups, do bring back fond memories. :P

[Spikerdude]

He's not a total newbie, though that doesn't mean a lot. Interesting though, odds of him being scum are as likely as anyone else :cool:



Admit it, you just want me dead because you hate me. UFC KING is a one shot investigator, and a one shot forensic investigator. Hmmmmm... Interesting to say the least.

[Spikerdude]

Well screw you, I'm going to eat some winger dingers

[Aido]

Right OK, fair knowledge of Recess, scum group is either faculty, ashleys, or (I'm going out on a whim here) The Fifth Graders, in an episode, Lawson made a gang quite like the main characters, they could be in this game with a win condition of eliminating member's of TJ's gang.

Any thoughts?

[Spikerdude]

I honestly think as small as the game is, one time characters probably won't be involved. Lawson, yeah, i thoink he'll be in. As for th others. I really doubt it.

[Aido]

I honestly think as small as the game is, one time characters probably won't be involved. Lawson, yeah, i thoink he'll be in. As for th others. I really doubt it.

Some of them weren't one-time characters, Kurst, Menlo and Lazy Kid are all recurring characters.

[Spikerdude]

yeah, but some of the other kids in the gang where.

[mjdgoldeneye]

He's not a total newbie, though that doesn't mean a lot. Interesting though, odds of him being scum are as likely as anyone else :cool:

I'm not a fan of bandwagoning new players regardless of the odds. It's simply courtesy. Obviously, their time will come, but no need to ambush them

This does improve my confidence a small bit, but I'd say at least one of you and MJD is scum and the spiker link means I'm leaning towards you at the moment, but am more willing to pressure him, in case he's feeling...honest =D

I'm sorry, but I can't completely comprehend what you're saying here. Are there typos or am I bad at reading? :p

If you're suggesting I'm scum:

1. You always do... Nothing surprising... ;)

2. I have no link to spikerdude. If you want to go this route, I'd have no problem lynching him to prove a disconnection. I'm not going down because of petty attempts at making arbitrary connections. :cool:

[mjdgoldeneye]

By the way, I'm at school now. I have to go until I get home. :D

[Spikerdude]

I guess the link is you defending me? and me felling honest? when am I not shape. Question if you will. But not something I would recommend. And honestly i'm feeling cramped, and need to exercise my leg some more. So bbl.

[cappyboy]

Okay. Doesn't it just figure the game would start while I was having tech issues? Oh well, here now.

Some of them weren't one-time characters, Kurst, Menlo and Lazy Kid are all recurring characters.

And Aido's right. Because some of Lawson's gang were recurring characters, I don't know I'd dismiss that possibility out of hand. Maybe not the full group but the recurring ones . Really thought it seems like all the most likely groups have been referenced already. Faculty, Ashleys, TJ's gang, playground kids on both sides, King Bob's court and so on. So I guess Lawson and his boys could be all their separate ways.

Part of me wishes this were a larger game. Would love to see how the duplicates from the kickball episode would be handled.

[Spikerdude]

Faculty, what about the janitor? He was a good guy, but still...

[The Two]

Well, the teacher killed in the opening write up was Playground Aligned, so I figure there's nothing to stop other adults being too if they're good people. Probably just the mean ones would be scum.

I'm still way out of my depth here, Wiki has helped a bit, will have to try and download a few episodes later.

[Aido]

TJ's gang are still likely Playground aligned, as they don't have an official name, while the Ashley's do.

I'm wondering if the main villain from School's out is in this as well.

[Spikerdude]

****, forgot grotke was "gravely injured" Sue bob Murphy, and what about that kid who is always singing.

[Aido]

The thing is, any recurring character could be in this. So it'll be hard to have character list clear cut in stone.

The top thing on my mind is, who could be SK?

[Spikerdude]

That's the million dollar question. i could honestly see King Bob being the sk. The superintendent for faculty

[Aido]

King Bob, I'm not sure about, he'll likely have that role that when if he dies during the night, he'll be mourned the next day without lynch.

The Superintendant, I don't think so either, I just don't think SK is close. The closest I can think of is "White" the guy who takes TJ to court over "Whomps"

[Spikerdude]

A princess role for a king? Makes sense. Would he also be a multi voter? And the guy with the whomps deal, I don't think so. Again, one time characters will be left out. Like the peanut butter sandwich kid.

[Aido]

Well, he was in the "Taking rhw Fifth Grade" episode/tv-movie as well, so he would technically be recurring.

[Aido]

Wait, I know the SK - Gelman, the guy who bullied Gus.

[Spikerdude]

Gelman. An interesting choice, and one certainly to keep in mind.

[Midnightnick]

A princess role for a king? Makes sense. Would he also be a multi voter? And the guy with the whomps deal, I don't think so. Again, one time characters will be left out. Like the peanut butter sandwich kid.

Princess AND Multi-Voter? I doubt it highly.

[The Shape]

Why? A princess needs an upside.

[Midnightnick]

Why? A princess needs an upside.

The upside for Princesses usually is a avoiding death somehow.

Usually though, it could be a double vote for all I know. I was just stating I personally doubt King Bob would be a Princess/Double Vote.

[cappyboy]

I tend to agree. After all, a princess role whose otherwise vanilla? I'm not exactly sure I'd want to be the player stuck with that arrangement. I had more going for me in Gotham and I got frustrated with my role at times.

[moon_lit_tears]

Oh good, I'm not the only person in that boat.
Actually i have never seen the show either.

/facepalm

That's all well and good, but townie or not, roleclaiming in your first post? Not a great strategy.
Why would you claim so early?

Oh, I agree completely that outing yourself this early in the game, especially when there isn't even any pressure being applied, is downright stupid.
/nod

Unless it's all a cunning plan and he's actually the PGO :p
Possible

Is it that, or a way to get folks to second guess whether he'll be covered? Not sure myself.

But I would like to hear Nick's response to mjd's assertation.

VOTE: Midnightnick

So long as I get a satisfactory answer, this vote is very changeable.

Right OK, fair knowledge of Recess, scum group is either faculty, ashleys, or (I'm going out on a whim here) The Fifth Graders, in an episode, Lawson made a gang quite like the main characters, they could be in this game with a win condition of eliminating member's of TJ's gang.

Any thoughts?ide say that maybe the ashleys are a mason group?

[Aido]

Its not really sure, in the show, they seem to not like the main gang of the show, which is why I believe they could be scum. In the show they are bithces, and bitches would be more scum than town.

[lprock]

ide say that maybe the ashleys are a mason group?

They'd be more inclined to be a cult imo, they have that kind of attitude.

[moon_lit_tears]

Then two scum groups?
The write up sounds to me like teachers being scum.

[Midnightnick]

They'd be more inclined to be a cult imo, they have that kind of attitude.

They don't really recruit though, barring Spinelli who is also an Ashley.

If you ask me, they seem like a group that just wants to survive (if a group) and/or a Indy Survivor (if all merged into one player).

[Aido]

Then two scum groups?
The write up sounds to me like teachers being scum.

Some are scum-like, some aren't.

Finster, Prickly, maybe Lemon (with the help of Randal and Menlo) would be the main scummy ones.

[moon_lit_tears]

They don't really recruit though, barring Spinelli who is also an Ashley.

If you ask me, they seem like a group that just wants to survive (if a group) and/or a Indy Survivor (if all merged into one player).
That could be the more logical answer imo

[Midnightnick]

That could be the more logical answer imo

The reason I mentioned the group wanting to survive thing is because when I was playing over at EWB, in their WWF 99 Mafia, I was a member of the J.O.B Squad group and our win requirement as a group was to have at least one of us survive to end the end.

[lprock]

They don't really recruit though, barring Spinelli who is also an Ashley.

If you ask me, they seem like a group that just wants to survive (if a group) and/or a Indy Survivor (if all merged into one player).

Cults do not necessarily have to recruit.

[cappyboy]

Guys, something's just not sitting right with me here with UFC-King here. It seems just a little too convenient to just come right out and say "Oh I'm Gretchen. Here's what I do. Please don't kill me." Maybe I'm leaning too much on past games since I'm just coming back from absence. But I'm getting a sense of deja vu all over again here.

Look at the Han Solo situation in Star Wars 2. He got eliminated early. One of the other scum disguised him as a random stormtrooper and folks had a handy false claim the whole game. Granted that flase claim also ended up being a guaranteed death sentence. But the baddies kept using that as a crutch because they knew they could.

Anybody can claim anything at this stage. I could claim to the the Safety Ranger guy and turn out to be Principal Prickly for all anyone knows. Any one of us could be Gretchen. Including UFC-KING.

Or UFC-King could be trying a half-true claim like Lostrelms did in Cartoon Chaos. Remember Megatron the harmless hider? Maybe he's outed his ability and is depending on us to use our protectors on him when in fact he's a scum support player hoping to pick us all off. Nobody's word is ironclad at this stage. We don't know who anyone is partnered with. Heck, we don't even know that anything I've just said has any validity yet. I could just be suffering come a case of Once Bitten, Twice Shy. I don't even know how much stock I put in this feeling. But because of past history, it is one I feel needs sharing. Take it for whatever it's worth to you.

[masterded]

It is UFC-KING.

[lprock]

Guys, something's just not sitting right with me here with UFC-King here. It seems just a little too convenient to just come right out and say "Oh I'm Gretchen. Here's what I do. Please don't kill me." Maybe I'm leaning too much on past games since I'm just coming back from absence. But I'm getting a sense of deja vu all over again here.

Look at the Han Solo situation in Star Wars 2. He got eliminated early. One of the other scum disguised him as a random stormtrooper and folks had a handy false claim the whole game. Granted that flase claim also ended up being a guaranteed death sentence. But the baddies kept using that as a crutch because they knew they could.

Anybody can claim anything at this stage. I could claim to the the Safety Ranger guy and turn out to be Principal Prickly for all anyone knows. Any one of us could be Gretchen. Including UFC-KING.

Or UFC-King could be trying a half-true claim like Lostrelms did in Cartoon Chaos. Remember Megatron the harmless hider? Maybe he's outed his ability and is depending on us to use our protectors on him when in fact he's a scum support player hoping to pick us all off. Nobody's word is ironclad at this stage. We don't know who anyone is partnered with. Heck, we don't even know that anything I've just said has any validity yet. I could just be suffering come a case of Once Bitten, Twice Shy. I don't even know how much stock I put in this feeling. But because of past history, it is one I feel needs sharing. Take it for whatever it's worth to you.

It's UFC-King. =P

[lprock]

lmfao, just read mastered's post. :p

[Gabbo]

It is UFC-King.


None of us can stress that enough.


Scum may be playing on that fact though.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Change Vote: cappyboy

Your post was almost an encyclopedic example of scummy posting.

Gretchen IS a good role. UFC King claimed it.

There is no reason to suggest it's false, yet you brought the idea up and tried to make sure that people understood you were "just saying".

There is way too much doubt being spread on a claim by one of the most paper thin players here... (Sorry, UFC King... :p) It's not like Gretchen is a claim of dubious alignment... She's one of the most harmless players on the show!

[Midnightnick]

Change Vote: cappyboy

Your post was almost an encyclopedic example of scummy posting.

Gretchen IS a good role. UFC King claimed it.

There is no reason to suggest it's false, yet you brought the idea up and tried to make sure that people understood you were "just saying".

There is way too much doubt being spread on a claim by one of the most paper thin players here... (Sorry, UFC King... :p) It's not like Gretchen is a claim of dubious alignment... She's one of the most harmless players on the show!

While I don't necessarily agree with Cappy, UFC could be being coached by more veteran players, in a Good Ol' JR situation. I mean afterall, NickC of all people claimed JR and people believed it. Just playing Devil's Advocate on this one.

[Aido]

Change Vote: cappyboy

Your post was almost an encyclopedic example of scummy posting.

Gretchen IS a good role. UFC King claimed it.

There is no reason to suggest it's false, yet you brought the idea up and tried to make sure that people understood you were "just saying".

There is way too much doubt being spread on a claim by one of the most paper thin players here... (Sorry, UFC King... :p) It's not like Gretchen is a claim of dubious alignment... She's one of the most harmless players on the show!

I think she would have the Inventor Role if anything, and not what UFC claimed.

[moon_lit_tears]

Gretchen Priscilla Grundler
Gretchen is academically talented and extremely intelligent, and is known as "Smart Girl" on the playground. She is the only female that wears eyeglasses in the series, except for Miss Finster, Miss Grotke,and Library kid. She has shown the ability to do Sixth Grade work and probably that of a higher level. Once one of her school projects was confiscated by the government (thankfully that didn't effect her grade). She is also assisted by a calculator sized handheld machine called a Galileo (probably a parody of the Apple Newton),


i think the role....ability don't add up

[moon_lit_tears]

btw vote ufc-king

[Gabbo]

Gretchen Priscilla Grundler
i think the role....ability don't add up

Out of interest, who else would you think could forensically investigate?


It's a school...

[mjdgoldeneye]

While I don't necessarily agree with Cappy, UFC could be being coached by more veteran players, in a Good Ol' JR situation. I mean afterall, NickC of all people claimed JR and people believed it. Just playing Devil's Advocate on this one.

Don't play Devil's Advocate... In this case, we have a guaranteed character being claimed and we need to protect said character and move on.

If the real Gretchen is out there, CLAIM!

Our situation will be exactly the same and we will have found scum.

If no one steps forward, they have made a certain mistake. However, I doubt anyone will because NO veteran player would ask someone like UFC King to claim a known character... :rolleyes:

I think she would have the Inventor Role if anything, and not what UFC claimed.

I don't see why the claim would be far-fetched at all.

And, yes, I'm defending UFC King because it's incredibly obvious he's telling the truth.

**Sigh**

[Midnightnick]

Don't play Devil's Advocate... In this case, we have a guaranteed character being claimed and we need to protect said character and move on.

If the real Gretchen is out there, CLAIM!

Our situation will be exactly the same and we will have found scum.

If no one steps forward, they have made a certain mistake. However, I doubt anyone will because NO veteran player would ask someone like UFC King to claim a known character... :rolleyes:



I don't see why the claim would be far-fetched at all.

And, yes, I'm defending UFC King because it's incredibly obvious he's telling the truth.

**Sigh**

All I have to say about this is,

Oh UFC-King. The mishaps you cause, you crazy kid you.

[Aido]

I don't see why the claim would be far-fetched at all.

And, yes, I'm defending UFC King because it's incredibly obvious he's telling the truth.

**Sigh**

I was just saying because the inventor role seems to suit Gretchen more. As she is good at Science and stuff and like that.

[mjdgoldeneye]

All I ask is that you guys ask yourselves if you really think you're going to lynch the guy who claimed one of the main characters...

He has claimed his role and character... What other intent could you have by voting?

To be fair, at least cappy and MNN tried to justify the things I voted on them for. I can buy what they said.

However, MLT's post and vote was kind of wacky...

Change Vote: moon_lit_tears

This is better justified than any of my other votes. :D

[moon_lit_tears]

your vote is only right...if your scum...im playground aligned

I agree that ufcs charector/role do not match it could be the truth...but i don't bye it

[mjdgoldeneye]

your vote is only right...if your scum...im playground aligned

I agree that ufcs charector/role do not match it could be the truth...but i don't bye it

ok...?

So you really think UFC is lying?

[moon_lit_tears]

Yes i do

[mjdgoldeneye]

Yes i do

Well, you're either Gretchen or you're scum then. (Or aren't thinking all too hard...)

Would you agree that Gretchen has to be in the game? Would agree that she would be town aligned?

If you say yes to both, then, as I said, you're either Gretchen or you're scum, (Or aren't paying attention.)

There's very little room for any other scenario. (If you think Gretchen isn't in the game or that she'd be scum, I still want to lynch you purely on the principal of that making absolutely no sense! :p)

[mjdgoldeneye]

I'll be going on Xbox now for a while. I'll be back later. ;)

[moon_lit_tears]

Yes i think she is the game. But from the role she plays in the show, I just don't think the ability is right.

change vote no vote ill remove my vote for now....but i will say this. I am town aligned and trying to get a grasp on the charectors. I have never watched the show and i am going by what i red on the wiki

be back later going to hang out with shadownedflames

[The Aussie]

Until someone can confirm it then we just have to assume that UFC is telling the truth. The role doesn't quite add up to me in my opinion but for now I have nothing to go on.

[The Aussie]

Until someone can confirm it then we just have to assume that UFC is telling the truth. The role doesn't quite add up to me in my opinion but for now I have nothing to go on.
Keep in mind, I think that it was probably a massive balls up to claim in your first post without any pressure.

[lprock]

Until someone can confirm it then we just have to assume that UFC is telling the truth. The role doesn't quite add up to me in my opinion but for now I have nothing to go on.

Gretchen's always being all sciencey on stuff, so these one time abilities go with her well imo.

[UFC-KING]

I think she would have the Inventor Role if anything, and not what UFC claimed.

Sorry, I guess I didn't clarify

The reason I can investigate is because of the Galileo toy I carry around.

[UFC-KING]

All I have to say about this is,

Oh UFC-King. The mishaps you cause, you crazy kid you.

I think I'm just good at commanding the attention :p

[Midnightnick]

I think I'm just good at commanding the attention :p

Not going to lie. You are quite adapt at it.

[SeanMcFly]

Alright I'm finally able to get back on the computer.

Just a question, this is my first mafia game, and most of the terms I'm able to familiarize myself with, but what's a PGO ?

[UFC-KING]

Not going to lie. You are quite adapt at it.

Thanks :D

[Tha Black Phenom]

Vote Count:
moon_lit_tears: 1 (mjdgoldeneye)
Spikerdude: 1 (The Shape)


It is Day Phase 1. With 25 players remaining, there are 13 votes required to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by Friday at 7:00 PM EST, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Midnightnick]

Alright I'm finally able to get back on the computer.

Just a question, this is my first mafia game, and most of the terms I'm able to familiarize myself with, but what's a PGO ?

Paranoid Gun Owner.

Basically if someone targets them at night, they kill the person.

[lprock]

Paranoid Gun Owner.

Basically if someone targets them at night, they kill the person.

To add, there may be times when a Bud Driver and sometimes even a roleblocker can escape death after targeting the PGO. It all depends on the moderator's preference though. It is also rare for a roleblocker to survive. I think I've been in one game where that has happened.

[lprock]

Bus* Driver

[Spikerdude]

I think Gretchen being an inventor would be too obvious of a role choice. I could very well see Gretchen having that role. Galileo or however you spell it is an amazing piece of technology. It can break codes, track people, and a lot of other things. I'll go ahead and say this, But I fully believe ufc at this point.

As for Cappyboy, idk, got a weird vibe off of you. I'm gonna re look over a few things.

[Slim Jim]

Don't see how anyone can think UFC-King is lying... that just doesn't make any sense. Even if scum wanted to out the real Gretchen, a one-for-one trade is just stupid... especially in a game this size.

And like someone else said, who else would be suited to the forensic investigator one-shot? Fits her, being a science geek and all.

[Spikerdude]

Hi, I'm Bill Nye the Science guy. I'd like to give a little lesson on Quantum gravity.


Quantum gravity is the field of theoretical physics attempting to unify quantum mechanics, which describes three of the fundamental forces of nature (electromagnetism, weak interaction, and strong interaction), with general relativity, the theory of the fourth fundamental force: gravity. One ultimate goal hoped to emerge as a result of this is a unified framework for all fundamental forces— called a "theory of everything" (TOE).

Much of the difficulty in merging these theories at all energy scales comes from the different assumptions that these theories make on how the universe works. Quantum field theory depends on particle fields embedded in the flat space-time of special relativity. General relativity models gravity as a curvature within space-time that changes as a gravitational mass moves. Historically, the most obvious way of combining the two (such as treating gravity as simply another particle field) ran quickly into what is known as the renormalization problem. In the old-fashioned understanding of renormalization, gravity particles would attract each other and adding together all of the interactions results in many infinite values which cannot easily be cancelled out mathematically to yield sensible, finite results. This is in contrast with quantum electrodynamics where, while the series still do not converge, the interactions sometimes evaluate to infinite results, but those are few enough in number to be removable via renormalization.

In recent decades, however, this antiquated understanding of renormalization has given way to the modern idea of effective field theory. All quantum field theories come with some high-energy cutoff, beyond which we do not expect that the theory provides a good description of nature. The "infinities" then become large but finite quantities proportional to this finite cutoff scale, and correspond to processes that involve very high energies near the fundamental cutoff. These quantities can then be absorbed into an infinite collection of coupling constants, and at energies well below the fundamental cutoff of the theory, to any desired precision; only a finite number of these coupling constants need to be measured in order to make legitimate quantum-mechanical predictions. This same logic works just as well for the highly successful theory of low-energy pions as for quantum gravity. Indeed, the first quantum-mechanical corrections to graviton-scattering and Newton's law of gravitation have been explicitly computed (although they are so astronomically small that we may never be able to measure them), and any more fundamental theory of nature would need to replicate these results in order to be taken seriously. In fact, gravity is in many ways a much better quantum field theory than the Standard Model, since it appears to be valid all the way up to its cutoff at the Planck scale. (By comparison, the Standard Model is expected to start to break down above its cutoff at the much smaller scale of around 1000 GeV.)

While confirming that quantum mechanics and gravity are indeed consistent at reasonable energies (in fact, the complete structure of gravity can be shown to arise automatically from the quantum mechanics of spin-2 massless particles), this way of thinking makes clear that near or above the fundamental cutoff of our effective quantum theory of gravity (the cutoff is generally assumed to be of order the Planck scale), a new model of nature will be needed. That is, in the modern way of thinking, the problem of combining quantum mechanics and gravity becomes an issue only at very high energies, and may well require a totally new kind of model.

The general approach taken in deriving a theory of quantum gravity that is valid at even the highest energy scales is to assume that the underlying theory will be simple, elegant and then to look at current theories for symmetries and hints for how to combine them elegantly into an overarching theory. One problem with this approach is that it is not known if quantum gravity will be a simple and elegant theory (that resolves the conundrum of special and general relativity with regard to the uniformity of acceleration and gravity, in the former case and spacetime curvature in the latter case).

Such a theory is required in order to understand those problems involving the combination of very large mass of energy and very small dimensions of space, such as the behavior of black holes, and the origin of the universe.

At present, one of the deepest problems in theoretical physics is harmonizing the theory of general relativity, which describes gravitation, and applies to large-scale structures (stars, planets, galaxies), with quantum mechanics, which describes the other three fundamental forces acting on the atomic scale. This problem must be put in the proper context, however. In particular, contrary to the popular claim that quantum mechanics and general relativity are fundamentally incompatible, one can demonstrate that the structure of general relativity essentially follows inevitably from the quantum mechanics of interacting theoretical spin-2 massless particles (called gravitons).

While there is no concrete proof of the existence of gravitons, all quantized theories of matter necessitate their existence.[citation needed] Supporting this theory is the observation that all other fundamental forces have one or more messenger particles, except gravity, leading researchers to believe that at least one most likely does exist; they have dubbed these hypothetical particles gravitons. Many of the accepted notions of a unified theory of physics since the 1970s, including string theory, superstring theory, M-theory, loop quantum gravity, all assume, and to some degree depend upon, the existence of the graviton. Many researchers view the detection of the graviton as vital to validating their work. CERN plans to dedicate a large timeshare to search for the graviton using the Large Hadron Collider

With that being said. I'm gonna address a couple things, in no random order

Eth, where has their ever been a cult that couldn't recruit?

As for King bob and his role. I've been just a princess before. Dumb pointless role. If bob wasn't a multi voter, who else would be?

Now, with that being said, and all the information I have presented

Vote Kappy

Your post really bugs me, I'll need some equipment, and I'll get back to you shortly.

[Spikerdude]

*cappyboy

[Slim Jim]

What is with you and that Bill Nye crap? ¬_¬

[Tha Black Phenom]

Vote Count:
moon_lit_tears: 1 (mjdgoldeneye)
Spikerdude: 1 (The Shape)
cappyboy: 1 (Spikerdude)


It is Day Phase 1. With 25 players remaining, there are 13 votes required to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by Friday at 7:00 PM EST, a No Lynch will be declared.

[Midnightnick]

Hi, I'm Bill Nye the Science guy. I'd like to give a little lesson on Quantum gravity.


Quantum gravity is the field of theoretical physics attempting to unify quantum mechanics, which describes three of the fundamental forces of nature (electromagnetism, weak interaction, and strong interaction), with general relativity, the theory of the fourth fundamental force: gravity. One ultimate goal hoped to emerge as a result of this is a unified framework for all fundamental forces— called a "theory of everything" (TOE).

Much of the difficulty in merging these theories at all energy scales comes from the different assumptions that these theories make on how the universe works. Quantum field theory depends on particle fields embedded in the flat space-time of special relativity. General relativity models gravity as a curvature within space-time that changes as a gravitational mass moves. Historically, the most obvious way of combining the two (such as treating gravity as simply another particle field) ran quickly into what is known as the renormalization problem. In the old-fashioned understanding of renormalization, gravity particles would attract each other and adding together all of the interactions results in many infinite values which cannot easily be cancelled out mathematically to yield sensible, finite results. This is in contrast with quantum electrodynamics where, while the series still do not converge, the interactions sometimes evaluate to infinite results, but those are few enough in number to be removable via renormalization.

In recent decades, however, this antiquated understanding of renormalization has given way to the modern idea of effective field theory. All quantum field theories come with some high-energy cutoff, beyond which we do not expect that the theory provides a good description of nature. The "infinities" then become large but finite quantities proportional to this finite cutoff scale, and correspond to processes that involve very high energies near the fundamental cutoff. These quantities can then be absorbed into an infinite collection of coupling constants, and at energies well below the fundamental cutoff of the theory, to any desired precision; only a finite number of these coupling constants need to be measured in order to make legitimate quantum-mechanical predictions. This same logic works just as well for the highly successful theory of low-energy pions as for quantum gravity. Indeed, the first quantum-mechanical corrections to graviton-scattering and Newton's law of gravitation have been explicitly computed (although they are so astronomically small that we may never be able to measure them), and any more fundamental theory of nature would need to replicate these results in order to be taken seriously. In fact, gravity is in many ways a much better quantum field theory than the Standard Model, since it appears to be valid all the way up to its cutoff at the Planck scale. (By comparison, the Standard Model is expected to start to break down above its cutoff at the much smaller scale of around 1000 GeV.)

While confirming that quantum mechanics and gravity are indeed consistent at reasonable energies (in fact, the complete structure of gravity can be shown to arise automatically from the quantum mechanics of spin-2 massless particles), this way of thinking makes clear that near or above the fundamental cutoff of our effective quantum theory of gravity (the cutoff is generally assumed to be of order the Planck scale), a new model of nature will be needed. That is, in the modern way of thinking, the problem of combining quantum mechanics and gravity becomes an issue only at very high energies, and may well require a totally new kind of model.

The general approach taken in deriving a theory of quantum gravity that is valid at even the highest energy scales is to assume that the underlying theory will be simple, elegant and then to look at current theories for symmetries and hints for how to combine them elegantly into an overarching theory. One problem with this approach is that it is not known if quantum gravity will be a simple and elegant theory (that resolves the conundrum of special and general relativity with regard to the uniformity of acceleration and gravity, in the former case and spacetime curvature in the latter case).

Such a theory is required in order to understand those problems involving the combination of very large mass of energy and very small dimensions of space, such as the behavior of black holes, and the origin of the universe.

At present, one of the deepest problems in theoretical physics is harmonizing the theory of general relativity, which describes gravitation, and applies to large-scale structures (stars, planets, galaxies), with quantum mechanics, which describes the other three fundamental forces acting on the atomic scale. This problem must be put in the proper context, however. In particular, contrary to the popular claim that quantum mechanics and general relativity are fundamentally incompatible, one can demonstrate that the structure of general relativity essentially follows inevitably from the quantum mechanics of interacting theoretical spin-2 massless particles (called gravitons).

While there is no concrete proof of the existence of gravitons, all quantized theories of matter necessitate their existence.[citation needed] Supporting this theory is the observation that all other fundamental forces have one or more messenger particles, except gravity, leading researchers to believe that at least one most likely does exist; they have dubbed these hypothetical particles gravitons. Many of the accepted notions of a unified theory of physics since the 1970s, including string theory, superstring theory, M-theory, loop quantum gravity, all assume, and to some degree depend upon, the existence of the graviton. Many researchers view the detection of the graviton as vital to validating their work. CERN plans to dedicate a large timeshare to search for the graviton using the Large Hadron Collider

With that being said. I'm gonna address a couple things, in no random order

Eth, where has their ever been a cult that couldn't recruit?

As for King bob and his role. I've been just a princess before. Dumb pointless role. If bob wasn't a multi voter, who else would be?

Now, with that being said, and all the information I have presented

Vote Kappy

Your post really bugs me, I'll need some equipment, and I'll get back to you shortly.

Well, if the Ashleys are all converged into one role, they could be a multi-vote. Likewise Kindergartners.

[Spikerdude]

Guys, something's just not sitting right with me here with UFC-King here. It seems just a little too convenient to just come right out and say "Oh I'm Gretchen. Here's what I do. Please don't kill me." Maybe I'm leaning too much on past games since I'm just coming back from absence. But I'm getting a sense of deja vu all over again here.

Look at the Han Solo situation in Star Wars 2. He got eliminated early. One of the other scum disguised him as a random stormtrooper and folks had a handy false claim the whole game. Granted that flase claim also ended up being a guaranteed death sentence. But the baddies kept using that as a crutch because they knew they could.

Anybody can claim anything at this stage. I could claim to the the Safety Ranger guy and turn out to be Principal Prickly for all anyone knows. Any one of us could be Gretchen. Including UFC-KING.

Or UFC-King could be trying a half-true claim like Lostrelms did in Cartoon Chaos. Remember Megatron the harmless hider? Maybe he's outed his ability and is depending on us to use our protectors on him when in fact he's a scum support player hoping to pick us all off. Nobody's word is ironclad at this stage. We don't know who anyone is partnered with. Heck, we don't even know that anything I've just said has any validity yet. I could just be suffering come a case of Once Bitten, Twice Shy. I don't even know how much stock I put in this feeling. But because of past history, it is one I feel needs sharing. Take it for whatever it's worth to you.


Why would somebody claim that early, and as one of the main major 6, if they weren't 100% town? As slim said, one for one trade is terrible for the scum.

Yeah, anybody could claim at any stage of the game? What's your point on that. He claimed somebody major, the claim makes sense, and is believable.

Then you say that the whole post could be meaningless. Honestly, Your acting really odd. I'm gonna go grab my interrogation lamp, and ask you a few questions.

[masterded]

Well, if the Ashleys are all converged into one role, they could be a multi-vote. Likewise Kindergartners.

Like the TMNT

[Spikerdude]

of course, that's be helpful, if you where online *facepalm*

For the multi voting then, I could see that as a possibility too.

[Spikerdude]

*that'd

[masterded]

Like the TMNT

nvm the TMNT had to be attacked like 4 times or something.

[Slim Jim]

Yeah, they had four lives IIRC. I think there was some effect on voting too though. Didn't NickC have that role? And people kept trying to kill him :rolleyes:

[The Aussie]

What is with you and that Bill Nye crap? ¬_¬
Bill Nye the Science Guy was an educational program over in America back in the 90's.

If I am correct, There is a connection to his role but I'm still not entirely sure.

[The Aussie]

Yeah, they had four lives IIRC. I think there was some effect on voting too though. Didn't NickC have that role? And people kept trying to kill him :rolleyes:
Don't blame them though.

[Destiny]

Just to let people know that I'm around, and currently catching up on the thread.

[The Aussie]

Bill Nye the Science Guy was an educational program over in America back in the 90's.

If I am correct, There is a connection to his role but I'm still not entirely sure.
Of course, maybe he just liked the show back then.

[Destiny]

I agree with most people's opinions on who's Playground aligned. I would add, I'm a fan of the show but couldn't remember my character at first.

[Wallbanger]

Just to let people know that I'm around, and currently catching up on the thread.


VOTE: Destiny

Read faster. :p

[Wallbanger]

Just kidding.

CHANGE VOTE: No vote

[Destiny]

VOTE: Destiny

Read faster. :p

Ha, I'm trying. Believe it or not I aim to be more active in this game than the previous ones.

[Midnightnick]

Yeah, they had four lives IIRC. I think there was some effect on voting too though. Didn't NickC have that role? And people kept trying to kill him :rolleyes:

Yeah, he started with 4 votes.

Then if he got killed, went down to 3.

Then 2, then one.

[Spikerdude]

glad to know your scum buddies jogged your memory destiny.

[Destiny]

Just kidding.

CHANGE VOTE: No vote

Thank You. I assume your avatar is somehow linked to the Simpsons game, so I can't get much from that. :p

[Wallbanger]

I think I like you, Spikerdude. :)

[Wallbanger]

Thank You. I assume your avatar is somehow linked to the Simpsons game, so I can't get much from that. :p

I can say with absolute confidence that I do not have the same role as I do in the Simpsons game.

[Spikerdude]

Bill Nye the Science Guy was an educational program over in America back in the 90's.

If I am correct, There is a connection to his role but I'm still not entirely sure.

You have no idea how much that made me laugh.

Wallbanger, Damn it. I was so sure I knew who you where =[

[Spikerdude]

*are. Damn it, not my night.

[Wallbanger]

Wallbanger, Damn it. I was so sure I knew who you where =[

/blinks

Out of curiosity, who did you think I was?

[Destiny]

I can say with absolute confidence that I do not have the same role as I do in the Simpsons game.

:eek: That's good to know. I haven't had any scum buddies tell me what to do.

[Orange-kun]

Reporting for the game. And I actually know a bit of recess.

[Spikerdude]

A mix between the principal, and superintendent for the simpsons

Superintendent Skinner ;)

[Destiny]

Reporting for the game. And I actually know a bit of recess.

Aye, it's nice to be playing a game I know a fair bit amount. Haven't watched it in years though.

[Wallbanger]

I haven't had any scum buddies tell me what to do.

Ah, so you're telling them what to do -- good to get that straightened out. :p

[Destiny]

Ah, so you're telling them what to do -- good to get that straightened out. :p

People never seem to listen to me in these games. I'm all alone in this game anyway.

[Orange-kun]

Aye, it's nice to be playing a game I know a fair bit amount. Haven't watched it in years though.

Yeah, some of the names took me a few minutes to remember.

[The Two]

People never seem to listen to me in these games. I'm all alone in this game anyway.

I got a weird "protesting too much" vibe from that post with you actually responding to an obvious joke from Wallbanger. I'm probably just reading too much into it.

[Destiny]

Yeah, some of the names took me a few minutes to remember.

It's good quality nostalgia. Hopefully with it being a short game there's a few fans here.

[Spikerdude]

Me, glot, and aido are pretty knowledgeable

[Glotnot]

Ah, so you're telling them what to do -- good to get that straightened out. :p

He's the don, tbh.

[Midnightnick]

Me, glot, and aido are pretty knowledgeable

I know quite a bit as well. :o

[Glotnot]

Me, glot, and aido are pretty knowledgeable

I don't want to be "...and *anything*" with Aido, if you please.

No offense Aido.

[Spikerdude]

k then

[lprock]

I don't want to be "...and *anything*" with Aido, if you please.

No offense Aido.

I'll be something with Aido. :( I'm knowledgeable. :(

[moon_lit_tears]

Just to clarify, I said i don't think the role/ability is right...im not saying the role claim is wrong. I think the ability may be mroe then ufc is saying...if its a good role..witch i assume it is..then putting it out there wasn't the smartest thing to do.

with that being said, Have we found out who the bad/scum group(s) are?

[Spikerdude]

How can a cult not have a recruit ability, and still be a cult man?

[Midnightnick]

How can a cult not have a recruit ability, and still be a cult man?

They wouldn't be a cult then. Just a separate group. Be it scum or town.

[Spikerdude]

Cults do not necessarily have to recruit.

Thanks Midnightnick

[Midnightnick]

Thanks Midnightnick


You quoted the Cults don't neccessarily have to recruit post, so I don't know if you were being sarcastic toward me or not. :confused:

[lprock]

Cults, secondary mafias, they have little differences. :cool:

[lprock]

You quoted the Cults don't neccessarily have to recruit post, so I don't know if you were being sarcastic toward me or not. :confused:

He enjoys being a homosexual toward me so he wasn't being sarcastic. :o

[Spikerdude]

i did that so ethan could feel worse about himself.

[Midnightnick]

Cults, secondary mafias, they have little differences. :cool:

Yes they do. :rolleyes:

Cults usually don't kill.

Secondary Mafias usually don't recruit.

[lprock]

Yes they do. :rolleyes:

Cults usually don't kill.

Secondary Mafias usually don't recruit.

I have an emphasis on the word "little". Big emphasis.

[moon_lit_tears]

ok guys off to bed...g'night all and sweet dreams :) I'll be in my hole

[Spikerdude]

very subtitle

[Glotnot]

Yes they do. :rolleyes:

Cults usually don't kill.

Secondary Mafias usually don't recruit.

Not cool man! Not cool!

Dun make fun of ZTR.

[Spikerdude]

who's ztr? :D

[iMac]

ok guys off to bed...g'night all and sweet dreams :) I'll be in my hole

very subtitle

Go on then, I'll bite.

What does MLT's comment mean?

[Spikerdude]

your kidding right?

[iMac]

your kidding right?

Oh OK, I thought it was a character claim.

:o

[Spikerdude]

no, of course not :rolleyes:

[iMac]

no, of course not :rolleyes:

Oh dear... gonna be fun playin this game with you.

:rolleyes:

[Glotnot]

ok guys off to bed...g'night all and sweet dreams :) I'll be in my hole

See you later brother.

[Spikerdude]

Oh yeah glot, you and your brother work that big wood stick deep inside the dark hole.

[Glotnot]

Oh yeah glot, you and your brother work that big wood stick deep inside the dark hole.

You know it.

For the record, that's not who I am.

I wanted to join in the fun. But without revealing my actual character like everyone else is.

[Spikerdude]

I've only left hints I am nobody else but

Jack Von Houston: Playground aligned Scandalous smarty pants

[lprock]

Not cool man! Not cool!

Dun make fun of ZTR.

<333 You're the only one who cares. <3

[lprock]

I've only left hints I am nobody else but

Jack Von Houston: Playground aligned Scandalous smarty pants

Obv. mafia member. Lynch time.

[Spikerdude]

<333 You're the only one who cares. <3

I care, and you know it, whether I like it or not

me, be mafia? that's unpossible.

[Spikerdude]

It's early, i know, but o have a **** day ahead of me. Night all.

[UFC-KING]

I've only left hints I am nobody else but

Jack Von Houston: Playground aligned Scandalous smarty pants

Who's He ?

[Wallbanger]

Who's He ?

Kind of what I'm wondering. I don't claim to be an expert on the show but did watch it with my daughter, and I at least know the core ensemble. But I can't find a reference to this guy in an episode guide or on wiki.

This just seems really odd. Not sure if I should vote on it, though.

[bak42]

Kind of what I'm wondering. I don't claim to be an expert on the show but did watch it with my daughter, and I at least know the core ensemble. But I can't find a reference to this guy in an episode guide or on wiki.

This just seems really odd. Not sure if I should vote on it, though.

I can't find any evidence that this character even exists either.

vote: Spikerdude

[mjdgoldeneye]

I don't know, but I gathered that that may very well be spikerdude's real name...?

[The Shape]

Maybe. Not sure if that's his name, but jumping on something that's surely a joke is bull****.

So Change Vote: bak42 :cool:

[Midnightnick]

I don't know, but I gathered that that may very well be spikerdude's real name...?

But but, he said scandalous!

He's obviously a Ashley! :rolleyes:

[mjdgoldeneye]

I think bak just made a mistake (as did 'Banger), but I don't oppose your vote.

[Wallbanger]

I think bak just made a mistake (as did 'Banger), but I don't oppose your vote.

Are you saying the character exists?

[Tha Black Phenom]

Vote Count:
moon_lit_tears: 1 (mjdgoldeneye)
bak42: 1 (The Shape
Spikerdude: 1 (bak42)
cappyboy: 1 (Spikerdude)


It is Day Phase 1. With 25 players remaining, there are 13 votes required to achieve a majority. If a majority is not reached by Friday at 7:00 PM EST, a No Lynch will be declared.

[UFC-KING]

Vote : Spikerdude

Not sure if the character even exists, and I like to think of myself very knowledgeable about the subject.

And with that, I'm off.

[petrija]

Oh yeah glot, you and your brother work that big wood stick deep inside the dark hole.

...creeepy.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Are you saying the character exists?

I'm just saying that I'm sure you didn't realize it was a joke and that's understandable, but bak seemed to act pretty quickly.

I'm pretty sure no such character exists and that spikerdude never intended to suggest it did.

[The Aussie]

Spikerdude is probably kidding guys.

[Destiny]

Spikerdude is probably kidding guys.

Yeah, it unfortunately wasted more of our time though. Not sure where to look.

[Slim Jim]

Yeah, it unfortunately wasted more of our time though. Not sure where to look.

Not like we've been getting too much done anyway :p

I think this might be the slowest day phase I've ever been involved in, aside from the first game I ran elsewhere because no one had played before and no one knew what they were doing.

[moon_lit_tears]

See you later brother.
Ummmmmmmmmm just so ya know, irl im female

[Spikerdude]

For those who are Ill informed. Jack Von Houston is my alter life. he is an under cover agent, who lives in portland oregon. he enjoys duck collecting, and starring at crab trees.

[moon_lit_tears]

Yes but you have to be careful you could have gotten yourself lynched there lol

[Spikerdude]

Oh no :eek: Heaven forbid I just pull out my real role if I was in danger :rolleyes:

[Gabbo]

Surely, the Ashley's have to be one person, right?

Working on the assumption that Prickly, Lemon and Finster are scum, with the 4 Ashley's, an indie and possibly cult. You're looking at the balance being around 15/10 for town which is too close, IMO.

Maybe Prickly, Lemon and Finster ARE the cult and can recruit other teachers, yet they sacked Miss Grotke 'cause she refused to leave the kids and join them?

That said, I dunno how many other teachers would be in the game...

[Spikerdude]

Not enough teachers for them to just recruit them.

[moon_lit_tears]

I tend to think the Ashleys ARE one person. The games ive played in on another site have usualy been a 1 to 3 ratio on town/scum so with 25 roles i think we have hre...ide give a guess of 4-5 scum, and if there is a cult 2-3 maybe? witch gives us a 6-8 scum and 17-19 town?

[Gabbo]

Ahh, right.

Maybe Randall too? Or would he start off scum?

[Gabbo]

I tend to think the Ashleys ARE one person. The games ive played in on another site have usualy been a 1 to 3 ratio on town/scum so with 25 roles i think we have hre...ide give a guess of 4-5 scum, and if there is a cult 2-3 maybe? witch gives us a 6-8 scum and 17-19 town?

More Balanced, I'd think it was more 19/6 or 18/7, yeah.

[Spikerdude]

Randal as a Mafia Cop?