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Macca316
04-26-2009, 01:18 PM
So who's watching? who's missing it, Who couldn't give a monkeys?

1 Triple H (c), Batista and Shane McMahon vs. The Legacy (Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase)
2 John Cena (c) vs. Edge - Last Man Standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship
3 Jack Swagger (c) vs. Christian - ECW Championship
4 Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy- I Quit match
5 Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat
6 CM Punk vs. Kane

for anyone who doesn't know/hasn't been following those are the matches.

I'm thinking tonight could be the night the Age of Orton picks up again and would like to see that. Always think with Triple H as a good guy he is better chasing the title than being chased.

I am praying Edge beats Cena for the title.

In the ECW Title match I'm actually pretty torn i want Christian to win but after hating him when he first debuted Swagger has really grown on me so i don't know quite hard for me to pick a winner there.

Matt Hardy...... Nuff Said.

I think the match between Steamboat and Jericho should be not bad judging by the recent showing by Steamboat but i don't want him to become stale and ruin what has been a nice little come back by staying to long. Jericho to win and Steamboat to bow out gracefully.

Punk vs Kane would be nice to see Kane pick up a PPV win but Punk will most likely win and nothing is wrong with that.

I'd like to here your thoughts guys

GatorBait19
04-26-2009, 01:31 PM
So who's watching? who's missing it, Who couldn't give a monkeys?

1 Triple H (c), Batista and Shane McMahon vs. The Legacy (Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase)
2 John Cena (c) vs. Edge - Last Man Standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship
3 Jack Swagger (c) vs. Christian - ECW Championship
4 Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy- I Quit match
5 Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat
6 CM Punk vs. Kane

for anyone who doesn't know/hasn't been following those are the matches.

I'm thinking tonight could be the night the Age of Orton picks up again and would like to see that. Always think with Triple H as a good guy he is better chasing the title than being chased.

I am praying Edge beats Cena for the title.

In the ECW Title match I'm actually pretty torn i want Christian to win but after hating him when he first debuted Swagger has really grown on me so i don't know quite hard for me to pick a winner there.

Matt Hardy...... Nuff Said.

I think the match between Steamboat and Jericho should be not bad judging by the recent showing by Steamboat but i don't want him to become stale and ruin what has been a nice little come back by staying to long. Jericho to win and Steamboat to bow out gracefully.

Punk vs Kane would be nice to see Kane pick up a PPV win but Punk will most likely win and nothing is wrong with that.

I'd like to here your thoughts guys


I don't see Edge beating Cena, I really see Cena beating Edge then taking on Punk when he cashes his MITB in, I think they will truly give Punk a nice run and make him look good this time.

Kane would be nice to see him pick up a win, but I think it is truly time for him to change gimmicks, do something along the line of what they did with JBL, give him a new gimmick and see what he can do with it

I agree with Orton, I think Batista turns on HHH and Shane, the argued on Smackdown (Shane and Batista) and with Jericho gone from Raw, this brand is very face oriented

Not sure about Christian and Jack

I think Matt wins only for the fact they want to push him to the M.E scene and with the recent reports of Jeff's contract

I could see Jericho playing second fiddle tonight and losing to Steamboat (I’d mark out huge) then drawing this out a little longer, I see Jericho's next feud being with Punk to solidify Punk as a maineventer if his MITB storyline works out the way I think it should


1 Triple H (c), Batista and Shane McMahon vs. The Legacy (Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase) with a Batista turning
2 John Cena (c) vs. Edge - Last Man Standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship
3 Jack Swagger (c) vs. Christian - ECW Championship
4 Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy- I Quit match
5 Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat
6 CM Punk vs. Kane

QFresh
04-26-2009, 01:37 PM
1 Triple H (c), Batista and Shane McMahon vs. The Legacy (Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase)
2 John Cena (c) vs. Edge - Last Man Standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship
3 Jack Swagger (c) vs. Christian - ECW Championship
4 Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy- I Quit match
5 Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat
6 CM Punk vs. Kane

Triple H over Randy Orton becuase you need a title on RAW, and with Cena shooting yet another movie, look for Edge to pick up the WWE title, and take it to Smackdown.

Swagger over Christian, although I havn't really been following this story, so I really haven't a clue.

Considering Matt Hardy has two previous victories in a row over Jeff, Jeff is going to beat Matt tonight. And it sucks, because it's going to kill Matt's momentum which I'm calling will take him to a main event spot, and even a title run.

Steamboat beats Jericho in what could be a re-work of Wrestlemania.

And Punk over Kane, even though it's about time Kane was back in the real title hunt.

infinitywpi
04-26-2009, 01:41 PM
Some predicitions:

1) Legacy over The Establishment, not because Batista turns on Triple H... but because he makes a simple, honest mistake, and Triple H will do a heel turn on him and Shane.

2) Edge over Cena, barely. -- and then Punk over Edge.

3) Swagger over Christian, but this'll be close. Swagger needs a good, solid win over someone the fans respect to try and give him a boost in their eyes.

4) Jeff over Matt. Matt got the win at Mania, so he doesn't loose much here. Besides, Jeff has a rep as the guy who'll kill himself ot win the match, saying I Quit is so out of character for him.

5) Jericho over Steamboat, unless they a) want Jericho to look weak as hell going into a new show, or b) actually want Ricky to wrestle more matches. I could see them actually saying, "You two, go out there, wrestle for fifteen minutes, and then we'll call the ref to tell him who we want to win. If Ricky looks good, well, we'll use him a few more times."

6) Kane over Punk. Why? It gives Kane a legit claim to be a contender to Punk's title (setting up a Face Punk / Tweener Kane / Heel Edge dynamic), and Punk can claim to have beaten Edge even though Kane nearly sent him to the hospital with a vicious beating.

Kinda surprised at only six matches... no way they're getting 20+ minutes each. I expect shenanigans of some sort, and I'm not just talking about Money in the Bank...

Macca316
04-26-2009, 01:46 PM
Considering Matt Hardy has two previous victories in a row over Jeff, Jeff is going to beat Matt tonight. And it sucks, because it's going to kill Matt's momentum which I'm calling will take him to a main event spot, and even a title run.


the problem is though Matt wont get a fair shot at the Main Event being on Raw. the only main events we will see for a while will be Orton, Triple H, Batista, Cena in various different mix ups

Matt should have honestly been allowed to stay on Smackdown finish up with Jeffrey and then get to feud with Punk. maybe even reignite the feud he had back when he was V1 with Rey.

davidEFC
04-26-2009, 01:47 PM
I will be watching.

Jack Swagger (c) vs. Christian - ECW Championship
Although the ECW championship doesn't mean anything anymore Christian is currently over. Recieving huge pops on house shows and most people wanted him to win MITB at Wrestlemania so I am predicting he's taking the title tonight.

Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy.
Feud ender so the face is going over. Hopefully it will be much better than their previous matches.

CM Punk vs. Kane
Both where the last two on the ladder during the MITB match so I can see Kane winning this one and then challenging CM Punk for a rematch next PPV with the case on the line. CM Punk will win the rematch clean to retain the case and start building him up.

Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat
Ricky Steamboat still has it! I marked hard when Steamboat hit a hiptoss at Wrestlemania. Apart from the predictable ending of the match Steamboat/Jericho saved the match from blowing. Streamboat is getting one final victory here.

Edge vs. John Cena
As much as I would really enjoy another Edge title reign I don't think it will be tonight. CM Punk will not be cashing in either. Both world titles need to stay on Raw for a few months. Look at the Smackdown main event picture, Edge, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Kane, Rey Mysterio, Jeff hardy, Undertaker and Umaga. WWE could really build the IC title up and CM Punk with his briefcase. Then have CM Punk challenge for one of the Raw world title holders to an actual match. Have the fans care and really push the fact that Smacdkwon will be getting a world title back.

Triple H (c), Batista and Shane McMahon vs. The Legacy (Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase)

Randy Orton wins the title with Batista and or Shane McMahon screwing HHH out of his title. Either way, this feud isn't over and will continue on for a few months. I wouldn't mind seeing a slow hyped match built up for Summerslam between the 3 former evolution members in a triple threat match.

Overall
The card looks decent on paper. I read some other message boards and a lot of people bitch about the card being rematches in some shape or form from Wrestlemania. I don't think they grasp the name of the PPV.

FINisher
04-26-2009, 02:08 PM
Jack Swagger (c) vs. Christian - ECW Championship
Don't really care about the championship or Swagger, whose title reign has been a lackluster thus far, and so has his career in WWE also in my opinion.

Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy
Jeff is leaving WWE, why on earth would they want to put Jeff over?

CM Punk vs.Kane
Unfortunately Kane is a guy to keep others looking good. He still is convincing as a threat but used in midcard, losing to those who need to get pushed and winning those who are below him.

Chris Jericho vs. Ricky Steamboat
This would setup another rematch. Steamboat was the second biggest thing in wrestlemania as he really stole the show. I'm very much looking forward to this match.

Edge vs. John Cena
Just how many times we have seen this match already? 30, 40? I don't give a crap. Give me something new, please. Edge has stalled big time and so has Cena. I really can't see other logical endings to this than Cena winning, unfortunately. I would scream like a little girl if CM Punk would cash in his MITB and win the World title but I doubt that it'll happen, he mentioned that he would have the World championship match in his hometown of Chicago where a PPV will be held later on this year, just can't remember the name of it.

Triple H (c), Batista and Shane McMahon vs. The Legacy (Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase)
This one screams a heel turn. Batista or Shane will turn heel in this match. I really don't like Legacy and all the hype of how good they are. Orton, well, he's good but not great. Both Rhodes and DiBiase have been huge disappointments in my eyes during their stay in the WWE. Yet again the Main event will be one of the worst matches in the card.

GatorBait19
04-26-2009, 02:10 PM
I though Edge was moved to Raw?

FINisher
04-26-2009, 02:11 PM
I though Edge was moved to Raw?

The Draft will be official after Backlash.

GatorBait19
04-26-2009, 02:12 PM
The Draft will be official after Backlash.

but was he moved to Raw? because if so then how does him winning tonight bring the title back to Smackdown?

iMac
04-26-2009, 02:40 PM
but was he moved to Raw? because if so then how does him winning tonight bring the title back to Smackdown?

Edge wasn't drafted anywhere. He's still a member of the Smackdown roster. Easy to get confused with everyone appearing on different shows all the time. Hopefully it all settles down a bit after tonight.

PoisonedSuperman
04-26-2009, 06:51 PM
If anybody has time do you think you can bring me up a little bit on why these guys are all fighting, maybe tell me a little about the storylines. I'm sorry! I haven't watched a while but I am going to get back into wrestling! I promise.

Candyman
04-26-2009, 09:23 PM
If anybody has time do you think you can bring me up a little bit on why these guys are all fighting, maybe tell me a little about the storylines. I'm sorry! I haven't watched a while but I am going to get back into wrestling! I promise.

Triple H and Randy Orton have had a huge fued going back to the Royal Rumble. Orton took out Vince, then RKO'd Stephanie, then they revealed Triple H is married to Stephanie, Orton won the Royal Rumble so he challenged Triple H for his title...Triple H won, this is a rematch. Batista's in it because Orton took him out last year. Rhodes and DiBiase are Orton's lackies in the second generation stable.

Cena and Edge are having your typical title fued. Edge stole the title from Cena at No Way Out, Cena won it back at WrestleMania, this is the rubber match. Matt Hardy turned on Jeff Hardy, typical sibling rivalry stuff, Matt has beaten Jeff twice in a row. Jericho spent a couple months leading up to Wrestlemania ripping on legends who stick around too long, that lead to a handicap match with him versus Steamboat, Piper, and Snuka, he won. Steamboat was the only one that looked like he shouldn't be in a wheelchair so he gets the rematch. Hardy fued is your typical sibling rivalry, Matt was jealous of Jeff and turned on him. He's won their 3 matches since, so Jeff's trying to get even. Christian won a #1 contender's thing for the ECW Championship, so they're fighting, no buildup there. Even less build up between CM Punk and Kane, nobody really knows why they're fighting.

Candyman
04-26-2009, 09:37 PM
Edge vs. John Cena
As much as I would really enjoy another Edge title reign I don't think it will be tonight. CM Punk will not be cashing in either. Both world titles need to stay on Raw for a few months. Look at the Smackdown main event picture, Edge, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Kane, Rey Mysterio, Jeff hardy, Undertaker and Umaga. WWE could really build the IC title up and CM Punk with his briefcase. Then have CM Punk challenge for one of the Raw world title holders to an actual match. Have the fans care and really push the fact that Smacdkwon will be getting a world title back.


This. I love this idea. I'll take it one step further - before Punk cashes in his briefcase, they should unify the WWE and World Heavyweight championships, maybe at Great American Bash or Night of Champions. The next night on Raw while Randy Orton is celebrating being the Undisputed champion, CM Punk interrupts him and says he's cashing in his briefcase.

foolinc
04-26-2009, 09:55 PM
This. I love this idea. I'll take it one step further - before Punk cashes in his briefcase, they should unify the WWE and World Heavyweight championships, maybe at Great American Bash or Night of Champions. The next night on Raw while Randy Orton is celebrating being the Undisputed champion, CM Punk interrupts him and says he's cashing in his briefcase.

Actually, I'd unify the titles through Punk's MITB contract. Have him call out all the champions (WWE/WHC/ECW) on a 3 hour hour (or have some special reason for everyone being on the show). Let him give some speech about how when he was growing up everyone knew who the champion was, but now there are three of them and even he doesn't know who's better. So in the interest of fairness he puts out the idea of having one match to decide who is the real world champion by having challenging all three of them to a four way elimination match for a unified World title.

Self
04-26-2009, 09:58 PM
Backlash is over. It was okay I guess.

AfRoMaN36
04-26-2009, 09:58 PM
Results?

machinesxe
04-26-2009, 10:06 PM
Chrisitian winning the belt...Awesome!

Edge winning the title... Totally!!!

RKO...NESS!!!

BACKLASH WAS TOTALLY RECKING OF AWESOMENESS!!

The Final Countdown
04-26-2009, 10:14 PM
Actually, I'd unify the titles through Punk's MITB contract. Have him call out all the champions (WWE/WHC/ECW) on a 3 hour hour (or have some special reason for everyone being on the show). Let him give some speech about how when he was growing up everyone knew who the champion was, but now there are three of them and even he doesn't know who's better. So in the interest of fairness he puts out the idea of having one match to decide who is the real world champion by having challenging all three of them to a four way elimination match for a unified World title.
Great call! Seriously...they have WAY too many titles. I'd like to see them trim it down to 4 titles: World, IC, Tag and Women's. The champs would be eligible to defend their belts on any show. It won't happen, of course, but I can dream.

Tha Black Phenom
04-26-2009, 11:01 PM
All three big titles changing hands, plus an awesome bump to end the PPV... can't shake head at that. Was really entertained, best Backlash in years.

foolinc
04-26-2009, 11:23 PM
Great call! Seriously...they have WAY too many titles. I'd like to see them trim it down to 4 titles: World, IC, Tag and Women's. The champs would be eligible to defend their belts on any show. It won't happen, of course, but I can dream.

Actually I would have one World, one Tag, and one Women's but I'd give each of the three brands a midcard singles title. RAW and SD! get the US & IC titles while I'd bring back the TV title for ECW.

Candyman
04-26-2009, 11:43 PM
Actually I would have one World, one Tag, and one Women's but I'd give each of the three brands a midcard singles title. RAW and SD! get the US & IC titles while I'd bring back the TV title for ECW.

Nah, just keep the ECW title for ECW. It's a midcard singles title anyway. Even the WWE doesn't call it a world title.

CQI13
04-26-2009, 11:44 PM
Totally agree with less titles. Didn't they do that during the Undisputed Title bit, where each brand would get a challenger every other month?

GatorBait19
04-27-2009, 02:53 AM
I liked the Hardy's match, I thought the ending was great. But now I am confused with Matt's charc.

Or how Ross went off on Cole

Self
04-27-2009, 04:55 AM
Results?

Christian beat Swagger using trickery and deciet
Jericho beat Steamboat clean after The Dragon put up one Hell of a fight
Kane beat CM Punk with a double-arm Chokeslam
Jeff won after tying Matt to a table. Matt begged and cried and Quit. Jeff ladder-legdropped him anyway.
Santina proclaimed love for JR, then beat Beth via Khali chop, then lost her bra.
Orton won Title via punt to Triple H (Batista slightly to blame)
Edge beat Cena (fun match) via Big Show chokeslam into an exploding spotlight.

I liked the Hardy's match, I thought the ending was great. But now I am confused with Matt's charc.

In what way are you confused? Matt is a typical WWE cowardly Heel. He bit off more than he could chew, so he begged, cried, Quit so Jeff wouldn't hurt him any more.


As for Belts, I don't know which I'd keep, but I HATE midcard titles. Can't stand them. I'd have one belt for Smackdown, one for RAW, one for ECW, some tag straps and something pretty for the Divas to wear.

AfRoMaN36
04-27-2009, 08:29 AM
Christian beat Swagger using trickery and deciet
Jericho beat Steamboat clean after The Dragon put up one Hell of a fight
Kane beat CM Punk with a double-arm Chokeslam
Jeff won after tying Matt to a table. Matt begged and cried and Quit. Jeff ladder-legdropped him anyway.
Santina proclaimed love for JR, then beat Beth via Khali chop, then lost her bra.
Orton won Title via punt to Triple H (Batista slightly to blame)
Edge beat Cena (fun match) via Big Show chokeslam into an exploding spotlight.



In what way are you confused? Matt is a typical WWE cowardly Heel. He bit off more than he could chew, so he begged, cried, Quit so Jeff wouldn't hurt him any more.


As for Belts, I don't know which I'd keep, but I HATE midcard titles. Can't stand them. I'd have one belt for Smackdown, one for RAW, one for ECW, some tag straps and something pretty for the Divas to wear.



Thanks.

As for belts, i agree that less is more. I'd keep a unified world, tag and womens title while the US, IC and ECW titles remain on their respective brands. I don't see how this isn't possible.

justtxyank
04-27-2009, 10:38 AM
Someone tell me how Ricky did. I didn't get to order the ppv (thinking about the replay if Ricky had a good match.)

Self
04-27-2009, 10:57 AM
My reception cut out a few times during the show, including that match, but it was good. Maybe a little bland, and the crowd weren't quite as into him as much as at Wrestlemania and the following RAW, but Ricky certainly didn't embarass himself. He did his spots, sold like a trooper (babyfaces take notes!) and... Yeah. Good stuff. A fine showing, although not exactly magical.

jwoodson213
04-27-2009, 11:41 AM
Jeff Hardy won his match so the fued with Matt could end. Jeff is taking time off from wrestling and they needed to end the fued. Triple H is supposed to be out for a little with a kayfabe injury from Orton's punt. I've heard batista was partly to blame. Can someone explain this? Ive thought since this fued started that Batista will join Orton eventually since him and The Game had problems before in Evolution. Also saw on Rajah that Cena got alot of heat. Cena's character is just stupid to anyone above the age of 12.

jbergey_2005
04-27-2009, 01:25 PM
So the E is tossing title changes around like it doesnt matter again? I always find this type of booking less interesting. Build up a title run and when it ends it means something. What the hell is the point of changing titles all the time. Just give it to Orton and Edge and let them roll with it for awhile instead of having them keep dropping it to guys like Trips and Cena.

Self
04-27-2009, 01:26 PM
If Jeff was really taking time off, I'd think Matt would have gone over clean. I'm assuming Jeff is staying, OR he's being built up for a major program before his contract runs out in June. He's pretty much Smackdown's top babyface right now.

Trip's injury... Triple H spotted Batista about to hit Dibiase Jr with a chair. As DQ's meant title switches in this match, Triple H stopped him, then got RKO'd and punted by Orton. Completely unintentional on Batista's part... If one of them's turning, it's gonna be a slow build.

Cena got quite a bit of heat, and although I don't agree that his "character is just stupid to anyone above the age of 12" I don't really think it matters if it is. I mean, have you seen how many under 12's they have in the audience? Tons! And they all buy t-shirts! Win freakin' win.

Cena got some heat, but the biggest 'shock' was when Triple H actually got the "Na na na na" song when he was being stretchered out of the ring post-punt. Awkward...

P.S. WTF? Am I the only one who watched this show???

P.P.S. Am I the only one who liked "JBL is poopy"?

GatorBait19
04-27-2009, 09:55 PM
So the E is tossing title changes around like it doesnt matter again? I always find this type of booking less interesting. Build up a title run and when it ends it means something. What the hell is the point of changing titles all the time. Just give it to Orton and Edge and let them roll with it for awhile instead of having them keep dropping it to guys like Trips and Cena.

I think Edge finally gets a long title run, and Orton gets another nice long title run