Final Fantasy Mafia: Light Beyond the Darkness [GAME THREAD]

[ShadowedFlames]

MOD'S AWARDS

MVP goes to Self. I admit that I may have been TOO detailed with some of the stuff I wrote, but chalk that up to wanting to capture the essence of Final Fantasy in this game. Self just took the info and basically led the Gullwings—and the town—to victory. Honorable mention: Zero9teen.

Scum MVP: Derek_b. Until The Two was lynched, he had quite a bit of the town thinking he was still one of them; he did well to hold on as long as he did.

"Scum Group Most Likely to Implode" award goes to the Gestahl Empire (Machinesxe, mjdgoldeneye, Librarian).

Best Scene, and this is me simply stroking what ego I have, goes to the skipped day phase (Day Four). That was the most fun I had in writing out a scene the entire game.

Most Underrated in this game: Jaded. If he hadn't continually blocked Astil from recruiting, the Ivalice Alliance would have been a cult when all was said and done. By sticking to his guns, Jaded actually helped preserve a town win, though at the time the game was played I was pulling my hair in frustration, hoping Jaded would find something else to do at night. :p

Best Roleclaim: praguepride as Rinoa Heartilly (false). This drew the real Rinoa (Derek) into the open, and so was ultimately a smart move by the Dark Omen.

Funniest Roleclaim: mjdgoldeneye as Sora (false). Really…Kingdom Hearts in my Final Fantasy?

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Thanks to all those who've gone before for putting this together. Special thanks to Thomnipotent, without whom this idea would have never come to fruition. We hope it does your vision justice.

Note that a new mechanic will be explained in the rules post, so no skimming!

READ OR DIE

HOW TO PLAY:

- All of you will be PM’d a role and your alignment. The objective is to eliminate all members of the opposing alignment from the game.

- Each player has been given a role. You may also have a special ability. Your PM will explain what it does, if you are meant to know. You don’t have to reveal what your role is to the other players, nor will we do so in our updates. Then again there is nothing to stop you, so if you feel that it may help prove your innocence, go ahead - just keep in mind that this could also backfire and help the mafia. In other words, claim at your own risk. Likewise, you may lie about who you are if you wish. If you want to use your abilities, PM us. DO NOT post it in the thread unless your role PM states otherwise!

- The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day, and all players (Mafia and Townie alike) post in the thread, deciding who to kill off. Lynching is the only sure-fire way for the Townies to kill the Mafia, so be sure to examine voting patterns of your fellow players. There may also be clues in the death write ups, but over-reliance on those is ill-advised as some may be traps. Day phases will last 48 hours or until a consensus is reached. Night phases will last 24 hours but may end earlier if all night activities are concluded.

- All voting and discussion is to occur within the thread. Town players may discuss who they think is Mafia, and Mafia members should be trying to bluff/convince/blend in, and generally try not to get voted for. To vote, post Vote: Username (MUST BE IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote, by typing Change Vote: Username (AGAIN BOLDED!). You can also change your vote to nobody by typing Change Vote: No Vote (IN BOLD!). You can also choose to vote for No Lynching by using Vote: No Lynch (yeah... BOLDED!), meaning you actively vote to not lynch anyone during that day phase rather than passively not voting at all. You must post in the thread for your vote to be counted. You do not have to vote if you do not wish to.

- A Day Phase is over whenever a person obtains more than 50% of the vote (and is lynched) or when the 48 hours run out. If no majority vote has been reached by the time the day phase expires, a no lynch will be declared. Once a person dies, their alignment and role will be revealed.

- Night falls after somebody is executed or a no lynch is achieved. During this time, the Mafia can discuss who they want to kill next (using whatever form of communication appeals to them). Abilities are also used during this time. To use an ability, PM the mods (ShadowedFlames / Arrows / Actarus), and we'll PM you the outcome of the ability the following day phase. If it is something serious like somebody getting killed, I will update it in the thread. If possible though, try to PM us what you want to do as soon after night falls as possible to keep things moving along at a quick pace. Please note that with a mod and two co-mods, you may need to send two PMs for a night action, so plan accordingly.

- Night ends once we post who gets killed, and the cycle repeats itself. The Town players win if all Mafia members are dead, and vice versa. Remember, this is a team effort, so if you think sacrificing someone may help your cause, go ahead.

- Remember, some roles such as investigators and protectors are more valuable to the town - so try to keep them alive!

– SPECIAL MECHANIC FOR THIS GAME: Characters in most RPGs can take more damage than the common person, and this is no exception in Final Fantasy. As such, there are two "levels" of health: "Healthy" and "Injured." Healthy status equates to full HP, while Injured is anything less. This plays a key role in regard to abilities that only injure an opponent. Healthy targets lose a portion of their health and become Injured, while Injured targets can die if targeted by an attack that injures someone. Injuries can be healed by characters skilled in white magic, and those healed in this manner will be restored to Healthy status regardless of how close to death their injuries may have taken them. Injured players may post as normal in the game thread, unless noted otherwise by one of the mods. Injured players also require the same number of votes to lynch as healthy players. We are aware that this may take some getting used to, so please let us know if you have any questions regarding this particular mechanic.

RULES:

- This may be a Mafia game thread, but try not to postwhore in the thread anyway. Feel free to trash talk, accuse, call out other players if you want, but if you’re going to vote, at least state some kind of reason as to why you’re doing so.

- Though we can’t force you to post, we’d love to see active participation. We would advise everyone try to check in with this game at least once a day. Things move fast and you can fall behind pretty easily.

- Once you are dead, you stay dead, and may not participate until the game is over except in very rare cases. This includes notes found on your corpse, cryptic messages from the dead, etc, etc. You may also not advise the remaining players on what to do - besides, to prevent cheating, I will not provide the dead with any additional information than they would get if they were still alive. Of course, I’m willing to listen to your theories as to what’s going on. Likewise, I'd appreciate if those not taking part try not to help those playing, though general comments on how things are going would be welcomed in the Sign Up Thread. As is tradition in these games, though, one after-death 'ghost post' is permitted to bemoan your fate, curse your lynchers and so on. Be advised that because this is Final Fantasy, "death" may not necessarily be final, so those players who have been killed should keep up with the game regardless. One never knows who might be carrying a Phoenix Down or a Life materia/magicite.

- Unless your role PM specifically states otherwise, all players may not discuss game plan, your role, or alignment outside the thread. Of course, we can’t enforce this, but secretly revealing information amongst each other would spoil the game, so try not to do it. If it comes to our attention that you've been talking about the game outside the thread then you will be killed. This is your only warning.

- Players are not allowed to edit their posts in this thread at all, as it allows for those who make mistakes to remove all of the evidence without any effort. Since I can't enforce this, I strongly encourage all players to scrutinize any posts they notice that have been edited.

-Players are not allowed to cut and paste anything straight from the Role PM except the Role title. No cutting and pasting from the body of the PM. You can paraphrase what your Role PM says but that is all.

- Please play your role/alignment and play to win. We will be strict about this, so please don't make us enforce it.

- Talking about your role after death or to those who have died IS NOT allowed.

- Not everything is as it seems. If something unexpected happens, feel free to question it to us in private. If we can, we'll answer. If not, we'll be blunt and tell you that we can't answer it at the present time.

[NEW ADDITION!] – It is strictly forbidden to use the mods as an escape conduit. Saying that you can do such-and-such that may be outside the scope of the game "because the mods said I can" will result in your character dying. We are here to mod the game, not be a method of escape for someone. Consider yourselves warned.

We reserve the right to mod kill if we find out that any of these rules have been broken. Please remember that you are not the only one playing this game, so don't ruin it for everyone else!

The mods for this game are ShadowedFlames, Arrows, and Actarus. All PMs regarding abilities, questions or anything else should be sent to all of us. If you fail to communicate your information then we will go on what we have. You may lose your powers, you may miss a turn... you may even die. You have been warned! It will be repeated here that with a three-man mod team, you may need two PMs to get information across to us all. Keep this in mind if you're nearing the phase deadline.

Let us all keep in mind that this is a game and should be an enjoyable experience.

NEXT TO COME: OPENING WRITE-UPS!

[ShadowedFlames]

ShadowedFlames, Arrows, and Actarus present:
Final Fantasy Mafia: Light Beyond the Darkness

{Exterior – Returners’ Hideout}
The mountain air brought vigor to his old body as he stood in the lookout position, the Lete River roaring in the distance. For so long, he had waited for the day the Returners would overthrow the Empire, and it seemed that the day was soon to come. Word had come to him that the Empire was done with the war, and wished to broker peace. As the nominal head of those opposing the Empire, he felt the need to attend these talks personally, to see with his own eyes that which he thought he would never see in his lifetime.

The sound of an engine caught his attention as he turned to the south. An airship, bearing Imperial colors, was coming around Mt. Kolts and making a beeline for the cavern system the Returners used as a hideout. Squinting, he tried to identify the vessel a bit more before it came too close, only to find no other distinguishing marks apart from the vessel’s color scheme.

“Sir Banon! It is time to depart!”

With a deep sigh, Banon nodded at this. “So be it. Have the men prepared regardless; I sense foul play.”

“Aye. Godspeed.”

With his walking stick firmly in hand, Banon weaved his way out of the cave system and emerged at ground level, two of his most loyal followers trailing him as a robed emissary from the Empire stood before them. The red hood of the emissary left his face perpetually covered, and his hands remained inside the sleeves of his white robe. “Sir Banon of the Returners?”

At Banon’s nod, the emissary continued. “The Emperor has requested a formal dinner in the capital of Vector to discuss plans for peace and to end this war. He was requested that you make all haste to Vector, so that talks can begin in earnest. The Emperor has also given permission to travel to the capital in this airship, in which quarters have been arranged for you and your men.”

“I thank you. Let us be off; the longer we tarry the more lives are lost due to the war.”

Without showing as much as a hint of acknowledgement, the emissary turned and led the way for Banon and his associates. No one could see the grin under his hood, as the plan continued to fall together as the Emperor had told him it would.

{Interior—Vector, Imperial Castle Dining Hall}
He did not let the size of the dining hall intimidate him. He was used to wide open spaces, so the size of the hall seemed trivial to him. Across from him sat the man behind all of the atrocities of the war. Something still didn’t sit right with Banon as he gazed into the face of the man who had been in strict opposition to his own morals and beliefs.

“I’ve lost the will to fight, Banon. My subjects wish to rebel, my troops seem to disregard orders...in the last week I’ve lost half of my army because of desertion. Perhaps what they are trying to tell me is that we don’t need this war. I’m not going to disagree with them any more than I have.”

“Wise is the man who listens to the people.”

Silently, the opposite figure picked up his goblet of wine, as a servant poured a fresh glass for Banon. “A toast?”

“Indeed. To our hometowns.” Both men drained their goblets before getting to the matter at hand. Scarcely five minutes had passed before Banon began to feel flushed. The room seemed to warm up considerably as it spun around him. Even the voice of his counterpart seemed distant. He could taste his own blood, and knew something was wrong. Gripping the side of the table, he tried to focus his mind on the one spell he knew before all others, as he spoke the word to activate it.

“__________”

A look of confusion crossed his face before it was replaced by fear. His voice could not be heard; he could not get the words out to activate the magical phrase. As he collapsed to his knees, with blood starting to come out of his nose, the other man rose to his feet, staring down at his long-time nemesis.

“You see, Banon...only a fool would believe what I have spoken today. I have found lands with power far greater than the Sealed Cave to the east. As we speak, my forces are in the process of claiming that land, as a new era dawns for the Empire!”

Banon’s eyes widened, and he frantically tried to get his voice to work in order to stop this madness before it could get any worse. However, his body could not keep going, as the poison raced through his system. The last thing he saw before the darkness claimed him for his own was an ominous aura surrounding the man he had tried for so long to defeat...

ShadowedFlames is dead. He was Banon, Town Aligned Leader of the Returners.

\___(^)___/

{Interior—Balamb Garden, Headmaster’s Office}

He could see the dark clouds in the distance, an ill omen made reality. It was a day he knew would eventually come, but never did he expect it to come this soon. He knew that this would be the greatest test that any SeeD student would ever endure, but knew deep within himself that very few, if any, would be able to pass this one.

In a way, the realization made him feel like a failure. It wasn’t a pleasant feeling, of that he was certain. But he and his staff had done everything within their power; now it was up to those who had come through Garden and emerged as SeeDs. He was too old, too weak to fight any longer.

In the distance, the clouds continued to gather, casting the southern horizon in a sea of shadow. A moment later, he could feel the presence of another in the room with him. But he was no longer afraid of what was to come. “I was wondering when you might arrive.”

“You elderly fool. Do you honestly believe that your SeeDs can hope to stop me?”

“That is their mission. I place my trust in them.”

“Which will mean nothing when time and space are no longer a factor. I will give you one chance to live, however. Tell me where she is.”

So...they were looking for her. He should have known. “I know nothing.”

The look on the woman’s face could only be described as terrible as she looked at the older man before her. “Then I shall have no regrets in making an example out of you.”

A pulsating green light appeared directly in front of the man’s face, which exploded a moment later into a massive explosion of fire and green energy. The explosion rocked Balamb Garden, setting off smaller explosions as the heat and energy became too much for the equipment inside to take. The concussive blasts rocked the very foundations of the mobile Garden. Any onlookers would have seen the Garden pulsate with a deep green glow before the entire facility detonated, sending a shockwave of green energy into the world, spreading wider and wider before finally dissipating.

At the epicenter of this explosion, the woman remained standing, seemingly untouched. Behind her, a series of round portals opened, and others gathered to join her in the crater of what used to be Balamb Garden. Her voice echoed out, dark in the omen and the power she commanded.

“Our time has come. Let us take what is rightfully ours, and make the world—no, the universe—our own.”

A rumble of general agreement met this statement as green streaks flew across the heavens, binding this world to others and sealing it within a wrinkle of space and time. There was only one way out of this now, and that was over her dead body. She would have this world, just as her comrades would have their own. Woe to those foolish enough to stand in her way.

Arrows is dead. He was Cid, Town Aligned Headmaster of Balamb Garden.

\___(^)___/

{Exterior—Mt. Gagazet, Spira}

He had always come back to this spot when he needed to think. Ever since the defeat of Vegnagun, he knew that the High Summoner would no longer have need of his protection. She had become her own woman; he was her Guardian no longer.

Now he had the Sacred Mountain to guard. With no other summoners making the pilgrimage to Zanarkand, traffic had dropped considerably on the peak of Holy Gagazet. But it was here, on the snowy plain where the High Summoner and her Guardians fought Lord Seymour of the Guado, where he stopped to look out over the Calm Plains in the distance. Further beyond that, he could barely make out the edges of the forest of Macalania before the horizon claimed everything as its' own.

It was here where he felt closest to Gagazet itself.

The winds howled and the snow blew around him, but he stood as still as a statue, the lack of a horn painfully obvious to anyone who would be looking. Despite becoming Elder, there were some who found that to be a sticking point in their beliefs, and he was loathe to admit that it troubled him greatly on some nights. However, he would not admit this to anyone, and so did this disturbance on his soul remain hidden.

He would never get the chance to tell anyone by the rising of the sun the next morning.

A deep rumbling came from the cliffs nearer the peak of Gagazet, and as he turned he saw the figure of a man who should have been Sent long ago stride toward him. A feral growl escaped his mouth as he reached for the spear that he always kept within reach, a weapon gifted to him by the High Summoner upon the completion of her pilgrimage. The figure chuckled darkly as he gazed upon the Ronso.

"In due time, beast, she will be mine. You cannot hope to stop me."

Instead of replying, the Elder ran forward, spear gripped tightly in his hand as he swung at the intruder. A wave of the hand blocked the brunt of the impact, and with a second wave three balls of fire shot from behind him, striking the Ronso in both shoulders and the torso. The impact sent the Elder to the edge of the cliff, desperately trying to get his bearings straight. As the Ronso stood again, the figure simply smirked and released another set of fireballs. The Elder tried to avoid them, but with no luck as the third one caught him square in the chest.

He felt his feet lift off the ground as he was pushed backwards, clearing the edge of the cliff as he started to fall. Dropping the spear, he grabbed hold of the lip of the cliff, his clawed hands desperately looking for purchase to allow him to resume the fight.

But the Elder never saw the bolt of lightning fall from the skies—indeed, he never suspected a thing before a loud roar of thunder echoed in his ears and the part of the cliff he was holding literally shattered. His roar as he plummeted downwards could be heard all over Gagazet, though it would be days before anyone found his broken body in a gorge near the base of the Sacred Mountain.

The smile on the mysterious figure's face as he turned from his completed handiwork was nothing short of predatory.

Actarus is dead. He was Kimahri, Town Aligned Elder of Gagazet.

[ShadowedFlames]

THE WRITE-UP LIST
Day One--No Lynch: Write-up found here. (http://greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=629198&postcount=326)
Night One--Death of The Shape, injury of The Two: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=629742&postcount=422)
Day Two--Lynching of praguepride: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=631004&postcount=972)
Night Two--Deaths of foolinc, Glotnot, machinesxe, and SuperOwens; injurings of mjdgoldeneye and Tha Black Phenom: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=631491&postcount=1051)
Day Three--Lynching of mjdgoldeneye: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=632634&postcount=1397)
Night Three--Injurings of shigakai and UFC-KING: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=633055&postcount=1506)
Day Four--skipped day phase: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=633056&postcount=1507)
Night Four--Deaths of masterded, The_Mike, and supermareo: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=633348&postcount=1576)
Mid-Morning, Day Five--Revival of Glotnot: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=633715&postcount=1701)
Day Five--Lynching of Librarian: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=633786&postcount=1717)
Night Five--Death of petrija, injuring of treton: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=634190&postcount=1800)
Day Six--No Lynch achieved (time limit): Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=635114&postcount=2130)
Night Six--Death of SeanMcFly. injuring of Crychon: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=635593&postcount=2179)
Day Seven--Lynching of treton: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=636562&postcount=2394)
Night Seven--Deaths of Glotnot and shigakai, injuring of derek_b and Jaded: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42152)
Day Eight--Lynching of lprock: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=637850#post637850)
Night Eight--Death of trypio, injuring of Destiny: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=638311#post638311)
Day Nine--Lynching of BlueStar: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3180)
Night Nine--No deaths or injuries: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3240)
Day Ten--Lynching of The Two: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3274)
Night Ten--Deaths of Zero9Teen and Midnightnick: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3369)
Day Eleven--Daykill of Derek_b, End of the game: Write-up found here. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3377)


THE SURVIVORS: ALL SURVIVORS' ROLE PMS CAN BE FOUND IN THIS POST (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3514)
1. Astil: Ramza Beoulve, Ivalice Alliance Aligned Heretic
2. bak42: Paine, Town Aligned Mysterious Gullwing
3. Bear: Delita Hyral, Individually Aligned Common Princess Savior
5. Crychon: Quistis Trepe, Town Aligned Whip-Wielding SeeD Instructor
6. d_w_w: Rosa, Town Aligned Pure White Mage
8. Destiny: Cecil, Town Aligned Dark Knight Turned Paladin
11. Imarevenant: Tifa Lockhart, Town Aligned Busty Pugilist
12. Jaded: Ultros, Individually Aligned Octopus “Royalty”
19. moon_lit_tears: Vaan, Town Aligned Sky Pirate Wannabe
23. Prophet: Ovelia, Individually Aligned Princess Stand-In
25. Self: Rikku, Town Aligned Al Bhed Chemist/Thief
29. Tha Black Phenom: Ashe, Town Aligned Princess of Dalmasca
35. UFC-KING: Terra Branford, Town Aligned Half-Esper Half-Human


--THE DEAD--
-2. ShadowedFlames: Banon, Town Aligned Leader of the Returners
-1. Arrows: Cid, Town Aligned Headmaster of Balamb Garden
0. Actarus: Kimahri, Town Aligned Elder of Gagazet
30. The Shape: Cyan Garamonde, Town Aligned Samurai Retainer to the Throne ROLE PM FOUND HERE. (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641005&postcount=3446)
22. praguepride: Lord Seymour, Dark Omen Aligned Super Guado ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641009&postcount=3448)
9. foolinc: Alma Beoulve, Ivalice Alliance Aligned Ultima Host ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641014&postcount=3449)
15. machinesxe: Biggs and Wedge, Gestahl Empire Aligned MagiTek Riders ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641014&postcount=3449)
28. SuperOwens: Auron, Town Aligned Unsent Blademaster ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641014&postcount=3449)
18. mjdgoldeneye: Gestahl, Gestahl Empire Aligned Magic-Seeking Emperor ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641015&postcount=3450)
16. masterded: Aerith Gainsborough, Town Aligned Adorable Flower Girl ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641022&postcount=3456)
32. The_Mike: Yuna, Town Aligned High Summoner ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641022&postcount=3456)
27. supermareo: Tidus, Town Aligned Creation of the Fayth ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=641022&postcount=3456)
13. Librarian: Kefka, Gestahl Empire Aligned Evil Clown ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771185&postcount=3504)
20. petrija: Save Point, Town Aligned Point of Many Returns ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771188&postcount=3505)
24. SeanMcFly: Edgar Roni Figaro, Town Aligned Romancing Patriarch ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771190&postcount=3506)
33. treton: Vayne Solidor, Dark Omen Aligned Seeker of Nethicite ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771192&postcount=3507)
10. Glotnot: Cloud Strife, Town Aligned Spiky-Haired Ex-SOLDIER ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771194&postcount=3508)
26. shigakai: Setzer Gabbiani, Town Aligned Notorious Gambler ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771194&postcount=3508)
14. lprock: Kain, Town Aligned Master Dragoon. ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3509)
34. trypio: Agrias, Ivalice Alliance Aligned Holy Knight ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3509)
4. BlueStar: Sephiroth, Individually Aligned Masamune-Wielding Ultra-villain ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3510)
31. The Two: Sorceress Ultimecia, Dark Omen Aligned Evil Mastermind ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3511)
21. Poetic Justice / Zero9teen: Shadow, Town Aligned Determined Sellsword ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3511)
17. Midnightnick: Squall Leonheart, Town Aligned Scarred Loner ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3511)
7. Derek_b: Rinoa Heartilly, Dark Omen Aligned Controlled Sorceress ROLE PM FOUND HERE (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=771196&postcount=3512)





IT IS NOW THE MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

And with that, I open the game. Good luck to you all.

[moon_lit_tears]

woot! first post!

[Midnightnick]

Well I'm off to work.

actually.

"..."

[supermareo]

hmm, interesting opening write up, three disticnt final fantasys nodded too in it two of which im familiar with, the other not so much

[petrija]

So.
Hi.
I'll be taking the place of Arrows this game for most ridiculous role claim.
...
That is all.

[lprock]

Really like the healthy/injured feature, nice idea guys.

Oh, and nice. I beat the huge rush and don't have to catch up yet. :cool:

[praguepride]

Anyone want to keep tallies on what reference is from what game?

This particular Cid is from VIII

And I think Gagazet is from IV? The one with Cecil? Is that IV?

*wanders off to find the Final Fantasy Wiki

[bak42]

Anyone want to keep tallies on what reference is from what game?

This particular Cid is from VIII

And I think Gagazet is from IV? The one with Cecil? Is that IV?

*wanders off to find the Final Fantasy Wiki

6, 8 and 10 in that order.

[d_w_w]

6, 8 and 10 in that order.

Yes.

And hi all.

[Jaded]

Hi all. This is my first game, so not really sure what to say. *waves*

[d_w_w]

Hi all. This is my first game, so not really sure what to say. *waves*

Not knowing what to say on D1 is scummy.

[petrija]

Not knowing what to say on D1 is scummy.

Your face is scummy.

[d_w_w]

Your face is scummy.

:(

It's my hair, isn't it?

[Astil]

There being no 7 saddens me, kupo.

[d_w_w]

There being no 7 saddens me, kupo.

It would bring me great joy if 7 were just omitted from the game.

And from the historical record :eek:

Kidding.

Kind of.

Okay. It's clear I need to go home. I don't get off for 15 minutes, but I'm doing absolutely 0 work.

[Astil]

There being no 7, yet, saddens me, kupo.
Fix'd.
Anyway, on break at work.

[Astil]

It would bring me great joy if 7 were just omitted from the game.

And from the historical record :eek:

Kidding.

Kind of.

Okay. It's clear I need to go home. I don't get off for 15 minutes, but I'm doing absolutely 0 work.

Modkill, can we get a modkill here!

Kidding.

Kind of.

[Derek B]

Hooray!! Time to get my game on. :)

Glad someone cleared up that the first bit of the write up was from 6 cos I was gonna have to look that up. Must get round to playing that one day. At least the 8 and 10 bits made sense, though X-2 being mentioned makes me a sad panda...

[Glotnot]

Anyone want to keep tallies on what reference is from what game?

This particular Cid is from VIII

And I think Gagazet is from IV? The one with Cecil? Is that IV?

*wanders off to find the Final Fantasy Wiki

...Mmm, no. Kimhari, Gagazet, and likely his mysterious attacker are all X.

Attacker is probably Seymour, since he wants to get Yuna. XP

[mjdgoldeneye]

Alright, I'm here. The opening doesn't mean much to me as I know almost nothing about Final Fantasy (I played Kingdom hearts I & II though).

Really, the only thing I have to mention is that the opening says to send PM's to all 3 mods. In case you all care, that means you have to send 2 PM's whenever you contact the mods.

I don't mind, but I have a feeling there will be many inconsistencies or mistakes and undoubtedly someone will make the recently popular "put target in recipient bar out of confusion/distraction" mistake. :p

[Glotnot]

It would bring me great joy if 7 were just omitted from the game.

And from the historical record :eek:

Kidding.

Kind of.

Okay. It's clear I need to go home. I don't get off for 15 minutes, but I'm doing absolutely 0 work.

You should make mah behbehs.

[Derek B]

Alright, I'm here. The opening doesn't mean much to me as I know almost nothing about Final Fantasy (I played Kingdom hearts I & II though).

Really, the only thing I have to mention is that the opening says to send PM's to all 3 mods. In case you all care, that means you have to send 2 PM's whenever you contact the mods.

I don't mind, but I have a feeling there will be many inconsistencies or mistakes and undoubtedly someone will make the recently popular "put target in recipient bar out of confusion/distraction" mistake. :p

Unless I'm very much mistaken, you should be able to send a PM to 3 people at once... though I just went and checked mine and it says I can send it to 5 people. So... yeah, just don't CC in your scum buddies every time you PM the mods and you should be fine.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Unless I'm very much mistaken, you should be able to send a PM to 3 people at once... though I just went and checked mine and it says I can send it to 5 people. So... yeah, just don't CC in your scum buddies every time you PM the mods and you should be fine.

"You may send your message to up to 2 people at a time."

That's what I believe most people have.

[Derek B]

"You may send your message to up to 2 people at a time."

That's what I believe most people have.

You may send your message to up to 5 people at a time.
Separate multiple user names with ';'

I guess I'm special. :D

I'm off to use Sleepel on myself for a while... hopefully it'll combine with Regen and I'll wake up bright and healthy in the morning ready for the 3 random battles it takes just to make breakfast every morning. Fun times. :)

[Glotnot]

Glotnot wants to know when derek changed his location, tbh

[The Shape]

hmm, interesting opening write up, three disticnt final fantasys nodded too in it two of which im familiar with, the other not so much

Vote: supermareo. The above is a scum post. :)

[Glotnot]

Vote: supermareo. The above is a scum post. :)

This unlogic is illfallible.

Vote: supermareo

[Glotnot]

And despite what I just said, I totally believe in everything Shape says, for hte duration of this game.

*tip of the hat, nudge of the elbow*

[Self]

Huzzah! Now where's that Wiki?

[The Shape]

And despite what I just said, I totally believe in everything Shape says, for hte duration of this game.

*tip of the hat, nudge of the elbow*

Nonsense, but of the sort which I'm willing to accept without question. :)

[Self]

Also, OMG NO! KIMAHRI!!!!

He was always that character in X that I said "Next time I play I'll level him up... honest"

Now I'll never get the chance...

[lprock]

Kill: The Shape

I've heard just about enough of this ****ling.

[Arrows]

IT IS NOW THE MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 2 (The Shape, Glotnot)

[lprock]

Hmm, was hoping a mod wouldn't show up for awhile and I could play this off for awhile.

[The Shape]

Kill: The Shape

I've heard just about enough of this ****ling.

:D.

[lprock]

Vote: supermareo

I haven't read the second page yet, but I'm gonna guess he's been incriminated. And plus, Glot's voting for him.


And he ****ing spelled Mario wrong.

[Librarian]

Vote: supermareo. The above is a scum post. :)

How so? Granted, I've no real problem putting another pressure vote on him (4th out of 18), but his post mirrors my sentiment (in that I only played VIII and X, but not the first game mentioned).

[Glotnot]

Vote: supermareo

I haven't read the second page yet, but I'm gonna guess he's been incriminated. And plus, Glot's voting for him.


And he ****ing spelled Mario wrong.

<33333

How so? Granted, I've no real problem putting another pressure vote on him (4th out of 18), but his post mirrors my sentiment (in that I only played VIII and X, but not the first game mentioned).

'Cause...wait, what sentiment? This is your first post! >.<

Anyway, the way he said it. I had kind of skimmed over it, but the "look I'm here and reading and pretending to help without actually helping" thing is pretty blatant in his post. >.>

[lprock]

How so? Granted, I've no real problem putting another pressure vote on him (4th out of 18), but his post mirrors my sentiment (in that I only played VIII and X, but not the first game mentioned).

You know what to do.

[Librarian]

<33333



'Cause...wait, what sentiment? This is your first post! >.<

Anyway, the way he said it. I had kind of skimmed over it, but the "look I'm here and reading and pretending to help without actually helping" thing is pretty blatant in his post. >.>

Fair enough. (Anyway, I mentioned in the signup thread what games I've played). Although come to think of it, I'm (slightly) weary of Iprock. Voting for someone just because you did without looking at the rest of the thread. Then there's UFC King but that's just standard prejudice.

You know what to do.

Do I?

[lprock]

Don't act like I don't know. Just make sure to do your best tonight, and we'll see which of us is alive in the morning.

[Glotnot]

Although come to think of it, I'm (slightly) weary of Iprock. Voting for someone just because you did without looking at the rest of the thread.

You keep up that kind of talk against bbz and there'll be a vote on you.

And you'll have several "visitors" during the proceeding night phase.

And they won't be happy visitors.

[Bear]

This game is going to be aweoosome.

Vote: Supermareo

I like productive D1s.

[Crychon]

Well, looks like the first Day 1 bandwagon target has been chosen.

Vote: supermareo

[Arrows]

IT IS NOW THE MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 5 (The Shape, Glotnot, lprock, Bear, Crychon)

[mjdgoldeneye]

I absolutely hate "Golly Gee Whiz, I better put some mostly meaningless banter here to blend in!" posts. They're almost nearly always indicative of scum and completely embarrassing when they aren't! :p

Vote: supermareo

[Prophet]

I absolutely hate "Golly Gee Whiz, I better put some mostly meaningless banter here to blend in!" posts. They're almost nearly always indicative of scum and completely embarrassing when they aren't! :p

Really? I think my entire mafia career has been made up of "golly gee whiz, here's some meaningless banter" posts. Not to blend in, it's simply how my tiny little mind works. lol

However, SM's first post does seem to raise some eyebrows. We've got plenty of time still, would like to hear a retort of somesort, especially since it's day 1 vote rallying. Too many votes too soon, and we risk losing the day, something I definitely don't desire. And I don't desire to soil my hands with a vote. :p

[mjdgoldeneye]

Really? I think my entire mafia career has been made up of "golly gee whiz, here's some meaningless banter" posts. Not to blend in, it's simply how my tiny little mind works. lol

However, SM's first post does seem to raise some eyebrows. We've got plenty of time still, would like to hear a retort of somesort, especially since it's day 1 vote rallying. Too many votes too soon, and we risk losing the day, something I definitely don't desire. And I don't desire to soil my hands with a vote. :p

If he's scum, you're next... :mad:

:p

But really... :mad:

Just kidding... :p

[Glotnot]

While we're on the subject of voting, my ability only activates if at least 50% of the needed majority (25% total) vote for me simultaneously.

So if we could do that at some point, I'd be happy.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Final Fantasy.. oh boy.

supermareo's post does raise for concern, unknown as to who that benefits at all.

Vote: supermareo

[treton]

Hi.

[mjdgoldeneye]

While we're on the subject of voting, my ability only activates if at least 50% of the needed majority (25% total) vote for me simultaneously.

So if we could do that at some point, I'd be happy.

While such an openly shared idea doesn't cream "scum", I'm not a huge fan of activating abilities for the sake of it just because someone asks.

Any sort of hint you can supply when need be?

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 7 (The Shape, Glotnot, lprock, Bear, Crychon, mjdgoldeneye, Tha Black Phenom)

[Librarian]

Really? I think my entire mafia career has been made up of "golly gee whiz, here's some meaningless banter" posts. Not to blend in, it's simply how my tiny little mind works. lol

However, SM's first post does seem to raise some eyebrows. We've got plenty of time still, would like to hear a retort of somesort, especially since it's day 1 vote rallying. Too many votes too soon, and we risk losing the day, something I definitely don't desire. And I don't desire to soil my hands with a vote. :p

Whereas mine has been helping his town lose due to poor night decision making.

But I am with you on this one. I would've been fine with placing a pressure vote, but I think SM has enough of that.

Also, I'm slightly confused about Glot's last post. I suspect I've missed something.

[d_w_w]

You should make mah behbehs.

o.O... ;)

How so? Granted, I've no real problem putting another pressure vote on him (4th out of 18), but his post mirrors my sentiment (in that I only played VIII and X, but not the first game mentioned).

Hmm.

Really? I think my entire mafia career has been made up of "golly gee whiz, here's some meaningless banter" posts. Not to blend in, it's simply how my tiny little mind works. lol

However, SM's first post does seem to raise some eyebrows. We've got plenty of time still, would like to hear a retort of somesort, especially since it's day 1 vote rallying. Too many votes too soon, and we risk losing the day, something I definitely don't desire. And I don't desire to soil my hands with a vote. :p

Double hmm.

Hi.

Hi2u.

While we're on the subject of voting, my ability only activates if at least 50% of the needed majority (25% total) vote for me simultaneously.

So if we could do that at some point, I'd be happy.

Sounds nifty.

[ShadowedFlames]

All right, folks, I'm off to bed. I'll catch up in the morning and keep an eye on things while at work. Play nice!

[Glotnot]

While such an openly shared idea doesn't cream "scum", I'm not a huge fan of activating abilities for the sake of it just because someone asks.

Any sort of hint you can supply when need be?

That can be arranged.

I can your skepticism too, and it's reasonable.

But, it was either this, or wait for everyone to start voting for me before springing the big surprise.

At which point in time am I more likely to believed. When I'm halfway to being lynched due to suspicion, or when I'm halfway to be being lynched because I asked to be there.

[petrija]

Why are we all voting for SM?

[Jaded]

Vote: Supermareo

I'm easily led.

[Prophet]

Why are we all voting for SM?

It was the first (and only I believe) post he made. Said the initial write up was three distinct games, and that was it. It has a distinct feeling of waving your arms so people notice you there, and then stopping so they don't pay attention. This is the impression I got, anyway.

And what'd I say that made you hmm, D_Dub? Just to sedate that voice of curiousity in my mind. When he babbles, he drowns out the more important voices. :p

[BlueStar]

Alright...Cid as headmaster...that's FF8. And Kimahri is X.

Which one is Banon again?

Anyway, lock and load!

[Midnightnick]

Alright...Cid as headmaster...that's FF8. And Kimahri is X.

Which one is Banon again?

Anyway, lock and load!

Leader of Returners, FF6.

[BlueStar]

Leader of Returners, FF6.

I got that game on a PS1 disc, I thought I bought it a year ago but never played it.

[Derek B]

Glotnot wants to know when derek changed his location, tbh

About 2 weeks ago, I've been getting psyched for this for a while... I love FF7, my comp desktop is a pic from it (most of the time) and my Midgar postcard lives on the side of my computer at all times. Pretty tragic really. :)

Why are we all voting for SM?

My guess would be because people are excited for the start of another game and are willing to play fast and loose early on, in the hopes that they can absorb any mistakes they may make when they still have solid numbers.

I'm going to sit back and do my usual thing... complain about it being silly, comment about pushing a no lynch so we can get into the real part of the game and act outraged at everyone if something goes wrong. That's my usual MO and I'm sticking to it. :eek:

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE MID-MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 8 (The Shape, Glotnot, lprock, Bear, Crychon, mjdgoldeneye, Tha Black Phenom, Jaded)

[The Shape]

I could not have woken up to the game in a more ideal state. Not too much to read and if mareo is scum, I can sit back and boast about calling it off one post for the rest of the game without needing to do anything. :cool:

[Derek B]

IT IS NOW THE MID-MORNING OF DAY ONE.

Mid morning?

[Glotnot]

Mid morning?

My guess is a quarter of the way through the day.

Also, if 9 people would go ahead and vote for me and wait for that magic number to be reached before switching to supermareo, I'd much appreciate it.

[Derek B]

Since no-one else is doing anything about the opening write up, I'm going to start the speculation now...

ShadowedFlames, Arrows, and Actarus present:

Final Fantasy Mafia: Light Beyond the Darkness

{Exterior – Returners’ Hideout}
The mountain air brought vigor to his old body as he stood in the lookout position, the Lete River roaring in the distance. For so long, he had waited for the day the Returners would overthrow the Empire, and it seemed that the day was soon to come. Word had come to him that the Empire was done with the war, and wished to broker peace. As the nominal head of those opposing the Empire, he felt the need to attend these talks personally, to see with his own eyes that which he thought he would never see in his lifetime.

The sound of an engine caught his attention as he turned to the south. An airship, bearing Imperial colors, was coming around Mt. Kolts and making a beeline for the cavern system the Returners used as a hideout. Squinting, he tried to identify the vessel a bit more before it came too close, only to find no other distinguishing marks apart from the vessel’s color scheme.

“Sir Banon! It is time to depart!”

With a deep sigh, Banon nodded at this. “So be it. Have the men prepared regardless; I sense foul play.”

“Aye. Godspeed.”

With his walking stick firmly in hand, Banon weaved his way out of the cave system and emerged at ground level, two of his most loyal followers trailing him as a robed emissary from the Empire stood before them. The red hood of the emissary left his face perpetually covered, and his hands remained inside the sleeves of his white robe. “Sir Banon of the Returners?”

At Banon’s nod, the emissary continued. “The Emperor has requested a formal dinner in the capital of Vector to discuss plans for peace and to end this war. He was requested that you make all haste to Vector, so that talks can begin in earnest. The Emperor has also given permission to travel to the capital in this airship, in which quarters have been arranged for you and your men.”

“I thank you. Let us be off; the longer we tarry the more lives are lost due to the war.”

Without showing as much as a hint of acknowledgement, the emissary turned and led the way for Banon and his associates. No one could see the grin under his hood, as the plan continued to fall together as the Emperor had told him it would.

{Interior—Vector, Imperial Castle Dining Hall}
He did not let the size of the dining hall intimidate him. He was used to wide open spaces, so the size of the hall seemed trivial to him. Across from him sat the man behind all of the atrocities of the war. Something still didn’t sit right with Banon as he gazed into the face of the man who had been in strict opposition to his own morals and beliefs.

“I’ve lost the will to fight, Banon. My subjects wish to rebel, my troops seem to disregard orders...in the last week I’ve lost half of my army because of desertion. Perhaps what they are trying to tell me is that we don’t need this war. I’m not going to disagree with them any more than I have.”

“Wise is the man who listens to the people.”

Silently, the opposite figure picked up his goblet of wine, as a servant poured a fresh glass for Banon. “A toast?”

“Indeed. To our hometowns.” Both men drained their goblets before getting to the matter at hand. Scarcely five minutes had passed before Banon began to feel flushed. The room seemed to warm up considerably as it spun around him. Even the voice of his counterpart seemed distant. He could taste his own blood, and knew something was wrong. Gripping the side of the table, he tried to focus his mind on the one spell he knew before all others, as he spoke the word to activate it.

“__________”

A look of confusion crossed his face before it was replaced by fear. His voice could not be heard; he could not get the words out to activate the magical phrase. As he collapsed to his knees, with blood starting to come out of his nose, the other man rose to his feet, staring down at his long-time nemesis.

“You see, Banon...only a fool would believe what I have spoken today. I have found lands with power far greater than the Sealed Cave to the east. As we speak, my forces are in the process of claiming that land, as a new era dawns for the Empire!”

Banon’s eyes widened, and he frantically tried to get his voice to work in order to stop this madness before it could get any worse. However, his body could not keep going, as the poison raced through his system. The last thing he saw before the darkness claimed him for his own was an ominous aura surrounding the man he had tried for so long to defeat...

ShadowedFlames is dead. He was Banon, Town Aligned Leader of the Returners.

Final Fantasy 6

I'm guessing (through research) that this is Kefkakilling Banon... seems he has a thing for poisoning people though I'm sure people will correct me if I'm wrong.


\___(^)___/

{Interior—Balamb Garden, Headmaster’s Office}

He could see the dark clouds in the distance, an ill omen made reality. It was a day he knew would eventually come, but never did he expect it to come this soon. He knew that this would be the greatest test that any SeeD student would ever endure, but knew deep within himself that very few, if any, would be able to pass this one.

In a way, the realization made him feel like a failure. It wasn’t a pleasant feeling, of that he was certain. But he and his staff had done everything within their power; now it was up to those who had come through Garden and emerged as SeeDs. He was too old, too weak to fight any longer.

In the distance, the clouds continued to gather, casting the southern horizon in a sea of shadow. A moment later, he could feel the presence of another in the room with him. But he was no longer afraid of what was to come. “I was wondering when you might arrive.”

“You elderly fool. Do you honestly believe that your SeeDs can hope to stop me?”

“That is their mission. I place my trust in them.”

“Which will mean nothing when time and space are no longer a factor. I will give you one chance to live, however. Tell me where she is.”

So...they were looking for her. He should have known. “I know nothing.”

The look on the woman’s face could only be described as terrible as she looked at the older man before her. “Then I shall have no regrets in making an example out of you.”

A pulsating green light appeared directly in front of the man’s face, which exploded a moment later into a massive explosion of fire and green energy. The explosion rocked Balamb Garden, setting off smaller explosions as the heat and energy became too much for the equipment inside to take. The concussive blasts rocked the very foundations of the mobile Garden. Any onlookers would have seen the Garden pulsate with a deep green glow before the entire facility detonated, sending a shockwave of green energy into the world, spreading wider and wider before finally dissipating.

At the epicenter of this explosion, the woman remained standing, seemingly untouched. Behind her, a series of round portals opened, and others gathered to join her in the crater of what used to be Balamb Garden. Her voice echoed out, dark in the omen and the power she commanded.

“Our time has come. Let us take what is rightfully ours, and make the world—no, the universe—our own.”

A rumble of general agreement met this statement as green streaks flew across the heavens, binding this world to others and sealing it within a wrinkle of space and time. There was only one way out of this now, and that was over her dead body. She would have this world, just as her comrades would have their own. Woe to those foolish enough to stand in her way.

Arrows is dead. He was Cid, Town Aligned Headmaster of Balamb Garden.

Final Fantasy 8

This looks like Ultimecia blowing things up a bit. I'm not sure who's working with her since she's pretty much her own evilness in the game... though I suppose there could be other sorceresses, Seifer's crew or the other villains in the write ups working with her.

It also looks like she's looking for someone, which I would presume to be Ellone since she spends a fair amount of the game looking for her. Though with the time compression thing already happening I'm not sure how much sense that makes.


\___(^)___/

{Exterior—Mt. Gagazet, Spira}

He had always come back to this spot when he needed to think. Ever since the defeat of Vegnagun, he knew that the High Summoner would no longer have need of his protection. She had become her own woman; he was her Guardian no longer.

Now he had the Sacred Mountain to guard. With no other summoners making the pilgrimage to Zanarkand, traffic had dropped considerably on the peak of Holy Gagazet. But it was here, on the snowy plain where the High Summoner and her Guardians fought Lord Seymour of the Guado, where he stopped to look out over the Calm Plains in the distance. Further beyond that, he could barely make out the edges of the forest of Macalania before the horizon claimed everything as its' own.

It was here where he felt closest to Gagazet itself.

The winds howled and the snow blew around him, but he stood as still as a statue, the lack of a horn painfully obvious to anyone who would be looking. Despite becoming Elder, there were some who found that to be a sticking point in their beliefs, and he was loathe to admit that it troubled him greatly on some nights. However, he would not admit this to anyone, and so did this disturbance on his soul remain hidden.

He would never get the chance to tell anyone by the rising of the sun the next morning.

A deep rumbling came from the cliffs nearer the peak of Gagazet, and as he turned he saw the figure of a man who should have been Sent long ago stride toward him. A feral growl escaped his mouth as he reached for the spear that he always kept within reach, a weapon gifted to him by the High Summoner upon the completion of her pilgrimage. The figure chuckled darkly as he gazed upon the Rondo.

"In due time, beast, she will be mine. You cannot hope to stop me."

Instead of replying, the Elder ran forward, spear gripped tightly in his hand as he swung at the intruder. A wave of the hand blocked the brunt of the impact, and with a second wave three balls of fire shot from behind him, striking the Rondo in both shoulders and the torso. The impact sent the Elder to the edge of the cliff, desperately trying to get his bearings straight. As the Rondo stood again, the figure simply smirked and released another set of fireballs. The Elder tried to avoid them, but with no luck as the third one caught him square in the chest.

He felt his feet lift off the ground as he was pushed backwards, clearing the edge of the cliff as he started to fall. Dropping the spear, he grabbed hold of the lip of the cliff, his clawed hands desperately looking for purchase to allow him to resume the fight.

But the Elder never saw the bolt of lightning fall from the skies—indeed, he never suspected a thing before a loud roar of thunder echoed in his ears and the part of the cliff he was holding literally shattered. His roar as he plummeted downwards could be heard all over Gagazet, though it would be days before anyone found his broken body in a gorge near the base of the Sacred Mountain.

The smile on the mysterious figure's face as he turned from his completed handiwork was nothing short of predatory.

Actarus is dead. He was Kimahri, Town Aligned Elder of Gagazet.

Final Fantasy X and X-2 (sigh)

I never could muster the strength to finish X2, it was just too bad for me to be able to do that but I agree with someone else that this is probably Seymour up to something. As the major human(ish) villain of X he seems like the most likely candidate to be stirring up trouble here

Which brings me to what I was wanting to bring up, since it could be very important...

Do we think this lot are working together for a common cause? Or are they going to be a bunch of disparate scum groups and indies with their own win conditions based on events in their relative games? And how much more do we think hasn't been mentioned in the initial write up?

[machinesxe]

Vote: Supermareo

From what I can tell this is where we are heading and we all know I am about answers, and dead bodies talk...

[Derek B]

Bah... quotes are stupid for some reason when editing in the WYSIWYG editor. Must remember to turn that off again...

[Bear]

This bandwagon blows. I wanna know what glot does.

Change Vote: Glotnot

[SuperOwens]

Glad we got another game on the go. Been a while after going early in Transformers.

I have never played any FF games and have no idea of these characters or there history's etc. May not be that great in this game but i do look nice in a pair of shorts.

[The Shape]

Glad we got another game on the go. Been a while after going early in Transformers.

I have never played any FF games and have no idea of these characters or there history's etc. May not be that great in this game but i do look nice in a pair of shorts.

Honestly this is similar to the reasons for the mareo vote. At the very least a Glot vote should be compulsary atm, so we can test that while keeping pressure on mareo, and maybe you as well :o

[moon_lit_tears]

My guess is a quarter of the way through the day.

Also, if 9 people would go ahead and vote for me and wait for that magic number to be reached before switching to supermareo, I'd much appreciate it.

If you have an ability that requires a certain number of votes, it could be good why waste it day one?
Are you maybe a bomb, and just want to blow someone up for fun?

[Self]

ShadowedFlames, Arrows, and Actarus present:




Final Fantasy Mafia: Light Beyond the Darkness

{Exterior – Returners’ Hideout}
The mountain air brought vigor to his old body as he stood in the lookout position, the Lete River roaring in the distance. For so long, he had waited for the day the Returners would overthrow the Empire, and it seemed that the day was soon to come. Word had come to him that the Empire was done with the war, and wished to broker peace. As the nominal head of those opposing the Empire, he felt the need to attend these talks personally, to see with his own eyes that which he thought he would never see in his lifetime.

The sound of an engine caught his attention as he turned to the south. An airship, bearing Imperial colors, was coming around Mt. Kolts and making a beeline for the cavern system the Returners used as a hideout. Squinting, he tried to identify the vessel a bit more before it came too close, only to find no other distinguishing marks apart from the vessel’s color scheme.

“Sir Banon! It is time to depart!”

With a deep sigh, Banon nodded at this. “So be it. Have the men prepared regardless; I sense foul play.”

“Aye. Godspeed.”

With his walking stick firmly in hand, Banon weaved his way out of the cave system and emerged at ground level, two of his most loyal followers trailing him as a robed emissary from the Empire stood before them. The red hood of the emissary left his face perpetually covered, and his hands remained inside the sleeves of his white robe. “Sir Banon of the Returners?”

At Banon’s nod, the emissary continued. “The Emperor has requested a formal dinner in the capital of Vector to discuss plans for peace and to end this war. He was requested that you make all haste to Vector, so that talks can begin in earnest. The Emperor has also given permission to travel to the capital in this airship, in which quarters have been arranged for you and your men.”

“I thank you. Let us be off; the longer we tarry the more lives are lost due to the war.”

Without showing as much as a hint of acknowledgement, the emissary turned and led the way for Banon and his associates. No one could see the grin under his hood, as the plan continued to fall together as the Emperor had told him it would.

{Interior—Vector, Imperial Castle Dining Hall}
He did not let the size of the dining hall intimidate him. He was used to wide open spaces, so the size of the hall seemed trivial to him. Across from him sat the man behind all of the atrocities of the war. Something still didn’t sit right with Banon as he gazed into the face of the man who had been in strict opposition to his own morals and beliefs.

“I’ve lost the will to fight, Banon. My subjects wish to rebel, my troops seem to disregard orders...in the last week I’ve lost half of my army because of desertion. Perhaps what they are trying to tell me is that we don’t need this war. I’m not going to disagree with them any more than I have.”

“Wise is the man who listens to the people.”

Silently, the opposite figure picked up his goblet of wine, as a servant poured a fresh glass for Banon. “A toast?”

“Indeed. To our hometowns.” Both men drained their goblets before getting to the matter at hand. Scarcely five minutes had passed before Banon began to feel flushed. The room seemed to warm up considerably as it spun around him. Even the voice of his counterpart seemed distant. He could taste his own blood, and knew something was wrong. Gripping the side of the table, he tried to focus his mind on the one spell he knew before all others, as he spoke the word to activate it.

“__________”

A look of confusion crossed his face before it was replaced by fear. His voice could not be heard; he could not get the words out to activate the magical phrase. As he collapsed to his knees, with blood starting to come out of his nose, the other man rose to his feet, staring down at his long-time nemesis.

“You see, Banon...only a fool would believe what I have spoken today. I have found lands with power far greater than the Sealed Cave to the east. As we speak, my forces are in the process of claiming that land, as a new era dawns for the Empire!”

Banon’s eyes widened, and he frantically tried to get his voice to work in order to stop this madness before it could get any worse. However, his body could not keep going, as the poison raced through his system. The last thing he saw before the darkness claimed him for his own was an ominous aura surrounding the man he had tried for so long to defeat...

ShadowedFlames is dead. He was Banon, Town Aligned Leader of the Returners.


So apparently this is FF6, a game which I know practically nothing about. Very detailed write-up, a good read, so gratz on that.

Strikes me as a FF6 Mafia group is about. This "Emporer" chap, with a Hitman... A Poisoner.

He could see the dark clouds in the distance, an ill omen made reality. It was a day he knew would eventually come, but never did he expect it to come this soon. He knew that this would be the greatest test that any SeeD student would ever endure, but knew deep within himself that very few, if any, would be able to pass this one.

In a way, the realization made him feel like a failure. It wasn’t a pleasant feeling, of that he was certain. But he and his staff had done everything within their power; now it was up to those who had come through Garden and emerged as SeeDs. He was too old, too weak to fight any longer.

In the distance, the clouds continued to gather, casting the southern horizon in a sea of shadow. A moment later, he could feel the presence of another in the room with him. But he was no longer afraid of what was to come. “I was wondering when you might arrive.”

“You elderly fool. Do you honestly believe that your SeeDs can hope to stop me?”

“That is their mission. I place my trust in them.”

“Which will mean nothing when time and space are no longer a factor. I will give you one chance to live, however. Tell me where she is.”

So...they were looking for her. He should have known. “I know nothing.”

The look on the woman’s face could only be described as terrible as she looked at the older man before her. “Then I shall have no regrets in making an example out of you.”

A pulsating green light appeared directly in front of the man’s face, which exploded a moment later into a massive explosion of fire and green energy. The explosion rocked Balamb Garden, setting off smaller explosions as the heat and energy became too much for the equipment inside to take. The concussive blasts rocked the very foundations of the mobile Garden. Any onlookers would have seen the Garden pulsate with a deep green glow before the entire facility detonated, sending a shockwave of green energy into the world, spreading wider and wider before finally dissipating.

At the epicenter of this explosion, the woman remained standing, seemingly untouched. Behind her, a series of round portals opened, and others gathered to join her in the crater of what used to be Balamb Garden. Her voice echoed out, dark in the omen and the power she commanded.

“Our time has come. Let us take what is rightfully ours, and make the world—no, the universe—our own.”

A rumble of general agreement met this statement as green streaks flew across the heavens, binding this world to others and sealing it within a wrinkle of space and time. There was only one way out of this now, and that was over her dead body. She would have this world, just as her comrades would have their own. Woe to those foolish enough to stand in her way.

Arrows is dead. He was Cid, Town Aligned Headmaster of Balamb Garden.

FF8. I have a bit more knowledge of this. My brother has played it through several times and rants on incessantly as to why I should give it a whirl. Sadly it ain't my cup o' tea. I require graphics, yo!

Comrades... hmm. Could the people The Sorceress is working with be the Villains in the other FF games? Seperate scum factions, unable to communicate, but loosely aligned in their goals?

This Sorceress might have killing abilities, but I'm not convinced of that fact. After all, the Cassetticons never showed up in Transformers, so opening write-ups often mislead.

He had always come back to this spot when he needed to think. Ever since the defeat of Vegnagun, he knew that the High Summoner would no longer have need of his protection. She had become her own woman; he was her Guardian no longer.

Now he had the Sacred Mountain to guard. With no other summoners making the pilgrimage to Zanarkand, traffic had dropped considerably on the peak of Holy Gagazet. But it was here, on the snowy plain where the High Summoner and her Guardians fought Lord Seymour of the Guado, where he stopped to look out over the Calm Plains in the distance. Further beyond that, he could barely make out the edges of the forest of Macalania before the horizon claimed everything as its' own.

It was here where he felt closest to Gagazet itself.

The winds howled and the snow blew around him, but he stood as still as a statue, the lack of a horn painfully obvious to anyone who would be looking. Despite becoming Elder, there were some who found that to be a sticking point in their beliefs, and he was loathe to admit that it troubled him greatly on some nights. However, he would not admit this to anyone, and so did this disturbance on his soul remain hidden.

He would never get the chance to tell anyone by the rising of the sun the next morning.

A deep rumbling came from the cliffs nearer the peak of Gagazet, and as he turned he saw the figure of a man who should have been Sent long ago stride toward him. A feral growl escaped his mouth as he reached for the spear that he always kept within reach, a weapon gifted to him by the High Summoner upon the completion of her pilgrimage. The figure chuckled darkly as he gazed upon the Rondo.

"In due time, beast, she will be mine. You cannot hope to stop me."

Instead of replying, the Elder ran forward, spear gripped tightly in his hand as he swung at the intruder. A wave of the hand blocked the brunt of the impact, and with a second wave three balls of fire shot from behind him, striking the Rondo in both shoulders and the torso. The impact sent the Elder to the edge of the cliff, desperately trying to get his bearings straight. As the Rondo stood again, the figure simply smirked and released another set of fireballs. The Elder tried to avoid them, but with no luck as the third one caught him square in the chest.

He felt his feet lift off the ground as he was pushed backwards, clearing the edge of the cliff as he started to fall. Dropping the spear, he grabbed hold of the lip of the cliff, his clawed hands desperately looking for purchase to allow him to resume the fight.

But the Elder never saw the bolt of lightning fall from the skies—indeed, he never suspected a thing before a loud roar of thunder echoed in his ears and the part of the cliff he was holding literally shattered. His roar as he plummeted downwards could be heard all over Gagazet, though it would be days before anyone found his broken body in a gorge near the base of the Sacred Mountain.

The smile on the mysterious figure's face as he turned from his completed handiwork was nothing short of predatory.

Actarus is dead. He was Kimahri, Town Aligned Elder of Gagazet.

FFX. Now we're getting somewhere. He's a game I've played through... which make it all the more distressing that I'm not sure who this is. Seymor? Unlike the others he seems to be working alone.


From all this I'd guess we're looking at 2+ mafia teams, possibly a third, possibly a powerful Serial Killer.

[Derek B]

Honestly this is similar to the reasons for the mareo vote. At the very least a Glot vote should be compulsary atm, so we can test that while keeping pressure on mareo, and maybe you as well :o

Personally, I'm never comfortable voting on someone who needs votes to activate an ability. It might just be because of some of the roles ideas I've had for other games, but more often than not I associate this with a scum ability of some sort.

Obviously others can do what they like, but helping someone without knowing what you are doing is a very risky thing to do.

Also back to the mid-morning thing, I'm guessing it's just flavour but if someone (mods preferably) could clear that up then that'd be appreciated. If they don't, then I'm gonna have to assume it's somehow relevant to someone's abilities.

And lastly, I'm off out for the next few hours. Will be back later and will be splitting my time between this and diary writing. Fun fun fun. :D

[SuperOwens]

Honestly this is similar to the reasons for the mareo vote. At the very least a Glot vote should be compulsary atm, so we can test that while keeping pressure on mareo, and maybe you as well :o

I wont be voting on Glot. And the SM band wagon has enough numbers to get his attention next time he's on.

[The Shape]

I wont be voting on Glot. And the SM band wagon has enough numbers to get his attention next time he's on.

How many would it take to get your attention? =D

And why won't you be voting on Glot?

[SuperOwens]

How many would it take to get your attention? =D

And why won't you be voting on Glot?

9 :p

Because of my untrusting nature

[ShadowedFlames]

to whom it may concern: yes, the morning / mid-morning is just flavor to act as a subtle reminder of how close to the end of the phase you are. Later in the phase will be afternoon, then evening with dusk falling at the end of phase regardless of how far off it is. Night phases will be similar. Sorry for the confusion.

[moon_lit_tears]

to whom it may concern: yes, the morning / mid-morning is just flavor to act as a subtle reminder of how close to the end of the phase you are. Later in the phase will be afternoon, then evening with dusk falling at the end of phase regardless of how far off it is. Night phases will be similar. Sorry for the confusion.


No your not. Go back to work ;D

[Self]

My brain's already bleeding from "SeeD" this and "Gagazet" that. Any more confusion and I'm likely to go off my nut. :)

[petrija]

Yeah, not sure that's good enough reason for me to be voting for someone's head on day one.

[Imarevenant]

My guess is a quarter of the way through the day.

Also, if 9 people would go ahead and vote for me and wait for that magic number to be reached before switching to supermareo, I'd much appreciate it.

Honestly this is similar to the reasons for the mareo vote. At the very least a Glot vote should be compulsary atm, so we can test that while keeping pressure on mareo, and maybe you as well :o

Sorry, won't be putting a vote down until I know what will happen. For all I know yGlot's unlocked ability, could be to kill more than 1 person a night, investigate as town, etc etc etc............

Glad we got another game on the go. Been a while after going early in Transformers.

I have never played any FF games and have no idea of these characters or there history's etc. May not be that great in this game but i do look nice in a pair of shorts.

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[The Shape]

Sorry, won't be putting a vote down until I know what will happen. For all I know yGlot's unlocked ability, could be to kill more than 1 person a night, investigate as town, etc etc etc............

Yeah I jumped the gun on that one, he's probably making it up anyway if his track record is anything to go by. Elsewhere from what I last saw he was basically another Arrows such were the bizarreness of his claims. He's probably laughing at having drawed me in so easily on his scum forum, because he knows all he had to do was agree to follow my vote. Which he still should. And so should all of you.

[The Two]

Nice opening writeup. Didn't understand a word :) This is going to be hard going for me.

Personally, I'm never comfortable voting on someone who needs votes to activate an ability. It might just be because of some of the roles ideas I've had for other games, but more often than not I associate this with a scum ability of some sort.

Obviously others can do what they like, but helping someone without knowing what you are doing is a very risky thing to do.

Gotta agree with Derek here. I'm not helping "activate" somebody's power until I know what it is because that sounds like a scum thing to me. I also see no virtue in the Mareo wagon, looks like opportunists trying to push a day one lynch for no good reason.

[The Shape]

Gotta agree with Derek here. I'm not helping "activate" somebody's power until I know what it is because that sounds like a scum thing to me. I also see no virtue in the Mareo wagon, looks like opportunists trying to push a day one lynch for no good reason.

Who's pushing a lynch? Apart from me, because he's scum, but yeah. Since when was pressure at this early stage a bad thing? What else can we possibly do, in particular someone like you (and indeed me) if you are helpless when it comes to dissecting the writeup and game structure on the whole?

Meta-gaming a littlle, mareo was last active 20 minutes after I voted on him. Fair enough he didn't reply straight away; I assume he'll be back later on and we can work from there. Shooting down pressure on someone you, if a regular town player, can know absolutely nothing about, is tomfoolery at its tomfoolerist.

[SuperOwens]

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But how... When... I blame Facebook.

[trypio]

Not that much changed since the last time I played I see. Still starting random bandwagons... and useless conversations on day 1. :p

[Glotnot]

If you have an ability that requires a certain number of votes, it could be good why waste it day one?
Are you maybe a bomb, and just want to blow someone up for fun?

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.

[praguepride]

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.

Every day activates at 9 votes!? What the heck could it be? I'll be honest, it sounds like a timebomb kind of thing.

[BlueStar]

*blegh* ... seems Glot has some kind of Chewbacca ability. (See SW1). If we're going to test it out, best do it early in the game, for town's sake.

/waves fist

I'll go along with Glot's claim as a matter of trust, as long as Glot shows that ability to be town.

Vote: Glotnot

[supermareo]

oh nice a bandwagon and on me and started by shape of all people, id like to know what in my post is incriminating simply stating the obvious in that three different final fantasy games where mentioned and the fact that id only played/ had decent knowledge of two of them hardly seems worthy of jumping on.

that being said i'll state now im town aligned, my character is from one of the three mentioned in write up in fact was a major character in that particular final fantasy

oh and Vote: the shape one good turn deserves another

[Bear]

You guys can say what you want, but I wanna know what Glot does and I'm hoping that voting for him is a sign of good faith and he'd share because of it. If it was a scum ability, wouldn't he have just shut his trap and used it when the votes came natural instead of bullseyeing himself?

[supermareo]

I absolutely hate "Golly Gee Whiz, I better put some mostly meaningless banter here to blend in!" posts. They're almost nearly always indicative of scum and completely embarrassing when they aren't! :p

Vote: supermareo
:rolleyes:
no it was hey 'im here got nothing to stay just checking in post' also putting over the point that i may miss somethings due to lack of knowledge about a certain aspect of the game which may or may not be improtant

[BlueStar]

You guys can say what you want, but I wanna know what Glot does and I'm hoping that voting for him is a sign of good faith and he'd share because of it. If it was a scum ability, wouldn't he have just shut his trap and used it when the votes came natural instead of bullseyeing himself?

/waves fist.

I'm not siding with Bear by any means but he has a point.

If Glot's decided to claim and he's town, we should know his ability and it might be worth protecting.
If Glot is scum and wants to get an early lead, I say, let him have the lead. The numbers should be able to catch up on him.

That being said...1/4 votes to get an ability....shouldn't be anything like Rev had last game, me thinks.

[Arrows]

IT IS NOW THE MID-MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 8 (The Shape, Glotnot, lprock, Crychon, mjdgoldeneye, Tha Black Phenom, Jaded, machinesxe)

Glotnot: 2 (Bear, BlueStar)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

[moon_lit_tears]

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.

This concerns me. I don't see an ability to help the town here, If it is an awesome ability then you have just ruined it. Why come out on day 1 and put it like that. Now i won't be a part of this vote unless i have a good reason to, and hey vote for me i have a good ability just doesn't cut it. Now if your going to give up that much you might as well say the rest of it so we have something more to go on.

[praguepride]

Argh, curse my curiosity! I'm very tempted to vote for glotnot but I haven't the slightest idea what an ability would be that would require 1/4 votes AND is usable every day.

The only voting powers I know of are manipulations (doesn't make sense in this situation), unlynchable (again, doesn't apply), and timebombs.

What is this Chewbacca ability mentioned? And what ability did Rev have last game that is similar enough to be brought up?

Also here: Final Fantasy Wiki so we can stop all these "oh gee, I don't know anything about final fantasy!" posts.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Wiki

Read it and stop talking :D

[supermareo]

Who's pushing a lynch? Apart from me, because he's scum, but yeah. Since when was pressure at this early stage a bad thing? What else can we possibly do, in particular someone like you (and indeed me) if you are helpless when it comes to dissecting the writeup and game structure on the whole?

Meta-gaming a littlle, mareo was last active 20 minutes after I voted on him. Fair enough he didn't reply straight away; I assume he'll be back later on and we can work from there. Shooting down pressure on someone you, if a regular town player, can know absolutely nothing about, is tomfoolery at its tomfoolerist.

i REALLY wish meta gaming was banned in these games, not only is it in my opinion bad gamesmanship it also 90% of the time make people leap to the wrong conclusion, however to respond here the time frame coincides with the point that i logged off and went to bed 'roughtly 2am uk time as far as i remember i didnt visit the site or the thread at the time but it could of been open in a browser tab and been refreshed by accident hence why i appeared online and didnt respond

[praguepride]

Then again you can never eliminate meta-gaming. Metagamers will metagame. It's what they do. Heck a fair amount of this game is on the honor system as the mods can't view PM's or other board communications.

Some friends of mine are running a LARP at GenCon and we're actually taking meta-game steps to punish meta-gamers, but I don't see how you could do that here.

The best you can do is become invisible through the user CP if it bothers you that much.

[praguepride]

Whoop, lunch hours over. If someone answers my question could you quote it? Makes it easier to hunt through when I come back on.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Every day activates at 9 votes!? What the heck could it be? I'll be honest, it sounds like a timebomb kind of thing.

I think it's a one-time thing only though.

oh nice a bandwagon and on me and started by shape of all people, id like to know what in my post is incriminating simply stating the obvious in that three different final fantasy games where mentioned and the fact that id only played/ had decent knowledge of two of them hardly seems worthy of jumping on.

that being said i'll state now im town aligned, my character is from one of the three mentioned in write up in fact was a major character in that particular final fantasy

oh and Vote: the shape one good turn deserves another

Hmm, coming outta the woodwork rather quick, aren't you? Somewhat skeptical, but I'll be willing to believe you for now if your character can well be deciphered through the first write-ups.

Change Vote: No Vote

This concerns me. I don't see an ability to help the town here, If it is an awesome ability then you have just ruined it. Why come out on day 1 and put it like that. Now i won't be a part of this vote unless i have a good reason to, and hey vote for me i have a good ability just doesn't cut it. Now if your going to give up that much you might as well say the rest of it so we have something more to go on.

He said why he came out on day 1. Either he might as well have revealed it now or reveal it when under pressure/suspicion which wouldn't help him one bit.

And tbh, you wanting him to come straight out with it quirks my eyebrow a bit..

Then again you can never eliminate meta-gaming. Metagamers will metagame. It's what they do. Heck a fair amount of this game is on the honor system as the mods can't view PM's or other board communications.

Some friends of mine are running a LARP at GenCon and we're actually taking meta-game steps to punish meta-gamers, but I don't see how you could do that here.

The best you can do is become invisible through the user CP if it bothers you that much.

Yeah, but if someone does that while in the game, it's usually a scum tell. Meta-gaming doesn't bother me at all because half of the time, whatever meta theory is inaccurate. If you're truly not playing your cards right, then yeah it'll show. Meta-gaming or not.

[The Shape]

oh nice a bandwagon and on me and started by shape of all people, id like to know what in my post is incriminating simply stating the obvious in that three different final fantasy games where mentioned and the fact that id only played/ had decent knowledge of two of them hardly seems worthy of jumping on.

that being said i'll state now im town aligned, my character is from one of the three mentioned in write up in fact was a major character in that particular final fantasy

oh and Vote: the shape one good turn deserves another

I voted for you because upon reading your post I concluded that it was more likely that of a scum player than that of a town player. And I'm still not convinced, either way you know that what you've said is enough to get you off on day one, but still. Care to provide a -valid- reason why you believe I should be lynched?

Meanwhile I'll Change Vote: SuperOwens, he made a very similar post that stood out to me and well, probability is one of them's scum. :o

[moon_lit_tears]

While we're on the subject of voting, my ability only activates if at least 50% of the needed majority (25% total) vote for me simultaneously.

So if we could do that at some point, I'd be happy.

That can be arranged.

I can your skepticism too, and it's reasonable.

But, it was either this, or wait for everyone to start voting for me before springing the big surprise.

At which point in time am I more likely to believed. When I'm halfway to being lynched due to suspicion, or when I'm halfway to be being lynched because I asked to be there.
No actually it could have been before you were suspect. Not a day one thing. In my opinion, this could have waited a little bit longer. It looks pretty odd that votes are being put on supermareo as day one randomness, that tends to lead to a day one lynch in games ive seen, and here you popup and say oh hey vote for me so i can test my ability that is not a one shot and im not going to bomb you guys either.

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.
Need more than this to be believed.




He said why he came out on day 1. Either he might as well have revealed it now or reveal it when under pressure/suspicion which wouldn't help him one bit.

And tbh, you wanting him to come straight out with it quirks my eyebrow a bit..
.
All im asking for is more then a trust me type deal. Your willingness to trust so easily makes me wonder.

[Tha Black Phenom]

I don't see what trust you see here. I never said "I trust Glot, let's vote for him", hell I'm not even one of the few who already put their vote on Glotnot. All I said was that you said you don't understand his implications when he's explained them earlier on(and now you picked up on it, so it's all good). As for the timing of revealing it, well.. that can be a viable theory. But, with the mechanics of how his ability needs to be activated, it doesn't really look like a scum ability in the works IMO. Because if he wanted his ability to start working, he'd have to bullseye himself at some point in the game. However, he could be scum, but with a townish ability. Whatever the case, I'm wanting to see what comes out of the SO's deal(supermareo and superowens) first.

[Actarus]

IT IS NOW THE MID-MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 6 (Glotnot, lprock, Crychon, mjdgoldeneye, Jaded, machinesxe)

Glotnot: 2 (Bear, BlueStar)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

[Astil]

If Glotnot needs votes, why has Glotnot not voted for Glotnot?

[bak42]

If Glotnot needs votes, why has Glotnot not voted for Glotnot?

Maybe Glotnot can't vote for Glotnot.

[SuperOwens]

You guys can say what you want, but I wanna know what Glot does and I'm hoping that voting for him is a sign of good faith and he'd share because of it. If it was a scum ability, wouldn't he have just shut his trap and used it when the votes came natural instead of bullseyeing himself?

I'm assuming its a night ability. If that's the case he would have to guarantee to get the 9 votes on him and then not be lynched. That doesnt sound a viable tactic to me. More likely is to declare it day one and have your scum friends put down arguments on why voting may be a good idea.

I'm finding this phase very interesting so far.

[Astil]

Maybe Glotnot can't vote for Glotnot.

Perhaps a LIMIT function.

Or, perhaps Glotnot is lieing.

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm assuming its a night ability. If that's the case he would have to guarantee to get the 9 votes on him and then not be lynched. That doesnt sound a viable tactic to me. More likely is to declare it day one and have your scum friends put down arguments on why voting may be a good idea.

I'm finding this phase very interesting so far.

He said its a day ability.

[SuperOwens]

He said its a day ability.

He said it was an every day kind of a thing or some such. That doesnt equate to a day ability, just means its not a one time deal. That's how i read it anyway, Glot can correct me of course.

[Imarevenant]

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.

He said its a day ability.

I don't believe he said it's a day ability at all.



His response was in answer to your question "why waste it day one."

Thus; I take his answer to mean, he has to get votes every day for the ability to work.

[supermareo]

I voted for you because upon reading your post I concluded that it was more likely that of a scum player than that of a town player. And I'm still not convinced, either way you know that what you've said is enough to get you off on day one, but still. Care to provide a -valid- reason why you believe I should be lynched?

Meanwhile I'll Change Vote: SuperOwens, he made a very similar post that stood out to me and well, probability is one of them's scum. :o


kmm why should I, you in my opinion didnt provide a valid reason for a bandwagon on me and now your doing the same to superowens seemingly, now im all for bandwagons on the first day to at least put people in a position of having to tell us something so taht we have at least something to go on for the future and in my opnion why not go with the guy who seems oh so eager to have that suspicion pointing in places other than himself

[moon_lit_tears]

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.



I think if he ment it was an every night thing he would have said so.

[Astil]

Who, in the FF universe, when many people look apon him/her dies something. Seymore? Rufus Shinra?

Any good guys?

gotta head into work. lets not walk into a WIFOM if we can help it.

[praguepride]

I'll be honest, unless there I get more info, I think Glotnot's a scum using confusion.

"Hey Guys! Vote for me but don't lynch me and I can do something cool! Trust me, it helps the town! "

As I listed above the only "powers effecting lynch votes" I can think of are bombs and martyrs (those are the guys that kill people who vote for them, right?)


If what he said is true, then it:

A) Requries 9 votes. No more? No less?
B) Can happen every day?
C) Is it a day or night ability?


The idea of limits, and possibly limit breakers is probable. My guess is that if he gets 9 votes but isn't lynched he becomes invincible that night phase. The problem though is that eats up votes needed for lynching. Could be a scum tactic to make lynches harder.

"1/4 of you need to vote for me every night and...uh...I'll be invincible"

Well, of course he'll be invincible, he's scum and won't kill himself. Not saying that's what the claim/ability IS, just saying that if it's a supposed ability that requires 1/4 of the votes and we accept it at face value, that would be a rather clever scum ploy to make actual lynches even harder to achieve as you'd need 3/4 of the people to vote to compensate for the 1/4 voting for him to "charge" his ability, which he is rather mum about.

[Derek B]

Logically, if Limit abilites are in then they'll be triggered by being injured.

[praguepride]

Logically, if Limit abilites are in then they'll be triggered by being injured.

In FF X you could set what your limit "charge" was.

In VII and IX (don't remember VIII very well...) your limit was on damage dealt/received.

In X I know you could set it on a variety of things, like whether allies were killed or injured, from healing your allies.

If that mentality is brought over then limits could be triggered by such things like:

# of people targeting you during the night
# of votes
# of days ( every 3rd day or something like that)
injuries
# of townies/scum/neutrals killed
# of night kills
# of people voting (in general). <--- that'd be a neat one. Your goal would be to try and get as many people as possible to vote, no matter who it's for, to trigger your ability.

There's a lot of metrics that could be gathered and measured, and thus be used to charge your abilities.

[petrija]

Here's my 'logical deduction' of said Glotnot situation.

IF what he states is true, here's my thought pattern.

He needs 9 votes, to activate... something.
What happens when someone gets votes piling up on them?
They get scared.
Link scared to a night time ability.. and could it be possible we're looking at upping his chances of PGO effectiveness?

Or am I being completely incoherent?

[praguepride]

Definitly a possability...

That could be another effect of limits. Maybe you have an ability that's only X% effective (protection, PGO, vigilante, investigator, doctor...whatever) but when your limit condition is activated then it bumps up the %

[petrija]

And now..
Am I the only one who feels like we're all completely up in the air when all he did was ask for some votes?
There's not much for us to really be distracted from.. but.
I don't know.
Weird feeling.

[praguepride]

And now..
Am I the only one who feels like we're all completely up in the air when all he did was ask for some votes?
There's not much for us to really be distracted from.. but.
I don't know.
Weird feeling.

My hackles are raised because it's such a weird request. Not just "vote for me" but to give a specific number means that there's either

a) important game mechanics we should be trying to figure out
b) scum confusion

I'm leaning towards A, cautious of B

[petrija]

a) important game mechanics we should be trying to figure out

I'm leaning towards A, cautious of B

...9 votes is half of the required for a lynch.
I thought we already had this established :)

[Derek B]

In FF X you could set what your limit "charge" was.

In VII and IX (don't remember VIII very well...) your limit was on damage dealt/received.

In X I know you could set it on a variety of things, like whether allies were killed or injured, from healing your allies.

If that mentality is brought over then limits could be triggered by such things like:

# of people targeting you during the night
# of votes
# of days ( every 3rd day or something like that)
injuries
# of townies/scum/neutrals killed
# of night kills
# of people voting (in general). <--- that'd be a neat one. Your goal would be to try and get as many people as possible to vote, no matter who it's for, to trigger your ability.

There's a lot of metrics that could be gathered and measured, and thus be used to charge your abilities.

I'm not even saying limit abilities are even in. But I doubt anyone would have access to them without first getting hurt and so I'm basing my logic on that. The actual trigger, if there is one, would probably be a random number generator.

But again, that's assuming they are even in and I wouldn't assume that is the case.

As for Glotnot, I think we're trying to read too much into it. I know I'm not going to vote for him because I won't enable something without knowing what it is. The actual number of votes isn't menacing, it's pretty simple. And it isn't a new thing for someone to need votes to trigger or improve an existing ability... but again, I just don't trust it to be helpful without information.

Some people will and they can vote for him if they want. I won't push for information from him today, but he also won't get my vote without it. And so it comes down to people trusting him without info vs giving info to get trust. If he doesn't give info then it's probably not very valuable in the first place.

[moon_lit_tears]

Still catching up and on an iPod, but it's an every day thing.

...9 votes is half of the required for a lynch.
I thought we already had this established :)

Ok we teach children to compramise )sp?( so here I go, If glot wants the votes for the ability to work then why cant he come out and give us some details about it. Im not asking for a full out claim but something to give an idea asto what he does. Given the facts we have right now about this so called ability, I personally don't think its enough to give the votes.

[SuperOwens]

My hackles are raised because it's such a weird request. Not just "vote for me" but to give a specific number means that there's either

a) important game mechanics we should be trying to figure out
b) scum confusion

I'm leaning towards A, cautious of B

Saying vote for me, claiming townie and then not giving a target number of votes would be downright absurd though.

[praguepride]

I guess I'm being a bit paranoid because I think that might be a nasty scum trick.

"I need X votes (1/2 necessary number) and I'll be invincible during the night phase."

That eats up 1/4 of the total votes, leaving only 3/4 votes available for the other lynches. Now in the beginning it might not be that bad, but imagine later on during the middle-to-end game when every vote counts.

Now entering Praguepride's paranoid fantasy scenario.

Say that Glot is scum. he tells us to dedicate a few but not too many votes and he'll be protected at night. Helpful for him but not really helpful for the rest of the town. But then again not a viscous claim, not an overpowered ability that would draw investigator attention, so we just take it as is.

Now scum can divert votes away from a lynch, promoting more "no lynch" days and thus reducing the ability of townies to lynch scum. It's subtle and seems unimportant now, but the end game possabilities are tremendous if people just accept it and drop votes on him to "charge his ability"

Now leaving praguepride's paranoid fantasy scenario.

I guess for me the important thing is whether this ability would be noticable or not?

@Glotnot: Is this a whole world effecting ability or just a personal ability?

I'll reserve further judgement and brainpower upon hearing his answer to these speculations and questions. I don't believe that this question is too invasive that it would warrant evasion...

[ShadowedFlames]

By the way, Arrows, we're still waiting for your Day One claim you promised in the sign-up thread. Surprised it's taken this long. :D

[petrija]

Prague.. good thinking, but he didn't say the votes need to stay on him. He said vote on me then switch em back.

[Glotnot]

You guys can say what you want, but I wanna know what Glot does and I'm hoping that voting for him is a sign of good faith and he'd share because of it. If it was a scum ability, wouldn't he have just shut his trap and used it when the votes came natural instead of bullseyeing himself?

I don't want to say what the actual ability is. Let those who really need to know guess. I think my answers will help alleviate some suspicions though.

This concerns me. I don't see an ability to help the town here, If it is an awesome ability then you have just ruined it. Why come out on day 1 and put it like that. Now i won't be a part of this vote unless i have a good reason to, and hey vote for me i have a good ability just doesn't cut it. Now if your going to give up that much you might as well say the rest of it so we have something more to go on.

"Hey guys, don't lynch me. I'm *blank*"

"Could you point yourself out in the write-up (not that it would be an issue with me, but still)?"

"No, sorry, I've only just now activated my ability since you're halfway to lynching me."

"I call bull****."

"No, wait, I'm serious!"

Aside from that, my ability could help the town. What good is my ability if I don't ever use it unless I happen to live through almost being lynched?

No actually it could have been before you were suspect. Not a day one thing. In my opinion, this could have waited a little bit longer. It looks pretty odd that votes are being put on supermareo as day one randomness, that tends to lead to a day one lynch in games ive seen, and here you popup and say oh hey vote for me so i can test my ability that is not a one shot and im not going to bomb you guys either.


Need more than this to be believed.


All im asking for is more then a trust me type deal. Your willingness to trust so easily makes me wonder.

Read again what I said, please. I asked for 9 people to vote on me simultaneously before switching their votes. So far as I know, it isn't necessary for the people to leave their votes on me. I just have to receive the votes. In truth, I don't even know if the votes have to be simultaneous, but I'm assuming they do as otherwise one person could just vote for me 9 times and technically satisfy the rule.

If Glotnot needs votes, why has Glotnot not voted for Glotnot?

Maybe Glotnot can't vote for Glotnot.

I don't know, truth be told. I figured "better safe than sorry".

Perhaps a LIMIT function.

Ding.

I don't believe he said it's a day ability at all.



His response was in answer to your question "why waste it day one."

Thus; I take his answer to mean, he has to get votes every day for the ability to work.

Ding.

I think if he ment it was an every night thing he would have said so.

Get votes every day, gain ability every night.

Who, in the FF universe, when many people look apon him/her dies something. Seymore? Rufus Shinra?

Any good guys?

gotta head into work. lets not walk into a WIFOM if we can help it.

How about asking how many people in the FF Universe gain abilities when they take a certain amount of damage?

I'll be honest, unless there I get more info, I think Glotnot's a scum using confusion.

"Hey Guys! Vote for me but don't lynch me and I can do something cool! Trust me, it helps the town! "

As I listed above the only "powers effecting lynch votes" I can think of are bombs and martyrs (those are the guys that kill people who vote for them, right?)


If what he said is true, then it:

A) Requries 9 votes. No more? No less?
B) Can happen every day?
C) Is it a day or night ability?


The idea of limits, and possibly limit breakers is probable. My guess is that if he gets 9 votes but isn't lynched he becomes invincible that night phase. The problem though is that eats up votes needed for lynching. Could be a scum tactic to make lynches harder.

"1/4 of you need to vote for me every night and...uh...I'll be invincible"

Well, of course he'll be invincible, he's scum and won't kill himself. Not saying that's what the claim/ability IS, just saying that if it's a supposed ability that requires 1/4 of the votes and we accept it at face value, that would be a rather clever scum ploy to make actual lynches even harder to achieve as you'd need 3/4 of the people to vote to compensate for the 1/4 voting for him to "charge" his ability, which he is rather mum about.

The only thing I've claimed is that I have an ability that's only activated when I receive 1/2 of the needed votes to lynch, i.e., 1/4 of the total votes, and that I have to do this every day that I wish to also have my ability.

The only theoretically possible ways it could make lynches harder was if 1) it took a lot of time to complete (nine people voting, and then removing their votes at the beginning of the day while the lynch-victim is being deliberated upon hardly eats up any time), and 2) if the voters had to STAY voting on me, which is a valid point but I don't think it to be the case. Whether it is or not, that's not what I asked people to do anyway.

I'd say that you appear to be twisting my words and seem quite set on painting me in an unflattering colour, but I realize you're just playing devil's advocate.

Here's my 'logical deduction' of said Glotnot situation.

IF what he states is true, here's my thought pattern.

He needs 9 votes, to activate... something.
What happens when someone gets votes piling up on them?
They get scared.
Link scared to a night time ability.. and could it be possible we're looking at upping his chances of PGO effectiveness?

Or am I being completely incoherent?

You're being coherent.

Scarediness has nothing to do with the ability though, I think. Though the character is a pansy.

Definitly a possability...

That could be another effect of limits. Maybe you have an ability that's only X% effective (protection, PGO, vigilante, investigator, doctor...whatever) but when your limit condition is activated then it bumps up the %

It's not a percentage thing.

And now..
Am I the only one who feels like we're all completely up in the air when all he did was ask for some votes?
There's not much for us to really be distracted from.. but.
I don't know.
Weird feeling.

I wasn't really expecting this much opposition. I was expecting "ok sure but we're keeping an eye on you now", honestly.

My hackles are raised because it's such a weird request. Not just "vote for me" but to give a specific number means that there's either

a) important game mechanics we should be trying to figure out
b) scum confusion

I'm leaning towards A, cautious of B

It's a. But you shouldn't be trying to figure them out.

Because I already told you.

It's how I activate my ability. >.>

I'm not even saying limit abilities are even in. But I doubt anyone would have access to them without first getting hurt and so I'm basing my logic on that. The actual trigger, if there is one, would probably be a random number generator.

But again, that's assuming they are even in and I wouldn't assume that is the case.

As for Glotnot, I think we're trying to read too much into it. I know I'm not going to vote for him because I won't enable something without knowing what it is. The actual number of votes isn't menacing, it's pretty simple. And it isn't a new thing for someone to need votes to trigger or improve an existing ability... but again, I just don't trust it to be helpful without information.

Some people will and they can vote for him if they want. I won't push for information from him today, but he also won't get my vote without it. And so it comes down to people trusting him without info vs giving info to get trust. If he doesn't give info then it's probably not very valuable in the first place.

The ability is what it is. My ability is what it is.

But if I was scum with this ability...actually, it could make a level of sense. Mechanics wise, not actual ability wise. Only my character can actually do the actual action, I think. Pretty sure.

I can give you hints; I've given a few already. But I'll also say that part of the ability is active.

Ok we teach children to compramise )sp?( so here I go, If glot wants the votes for the ability to work then why cant he come out and give us some details about it. Im not asking for a full out claim but something to give an idea asto what he does. Given the facts we have right now about this so called ability, I personally don't think its enough to give the votes.

You're scum. Calling it.

You want enough details to be able to figure out what the abilities is, but are willing to "let" me not say what it actually is.

That's the same thing.

Saying vote for me, claiming townie and then not giving a target number of votes would be downright absurd though.

Yes

Also I'm in a hurry at the moment, I know that sounds quite scummy and I apologize, I will post more in-depth later.

[lprock]

Logically, if Limit abilites are in then they'll be triggered by being injured.

So the logical thing to do, would be to have someone heal the same person everytime they are injured and see if he/she gains a limit break after being injured a few times. =o

[lprock]

Oh, and to help Glot out. Change Vote: Glotnot

I promise I'll remove it as soon as I can glotty. <3333

[praguepride]

Argh.... damn you curiosity. I always thought limits were the coolest thing in FF...I...must...find...out...

Vote: Glotnot

But you still didn't answer my important question in clear and concise terms! I will move this vote if you don't.

Is this an ability that only effects you? effects a specified target(s)? effects the people who voted on you? or is this a global event?

[Actarus]

IT IS NOW THE MID-MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, Crychon, mjdgoldeneye, Jaded, machinesxe)

Glotnot: 3 (Bear, BlueStar, lprock)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

[Actarus]

IT IS NOW THE MID-MORNING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, Crychon, mjdgoldeneye, Jaded, machinesxe)

Glotnot: 4 (Bear, BlueStar, lprock, praguepride)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

[praguepride]

missed me :D

[praguepride]

nvm. that was a busy minute!

[Actarus]

Hmmm...is posting at the same time as a mod grounds for a modkill? :p

*Goes to check his copy of "Mafia Mods for Dummies"*

[ShadowedFlames]

Hmmm...is posting at the same time as a mod grounds for a modkill? :p

*Goes to check his copy of "Mafia Mods for Dummies"*

Look next to "mods spamming vote counts" :p

[SeanMcFly]

Well, I do love productivity... If that's a word...

Vote : Supermareo

[supermareo]

Well, I do love productivity... If that's a word...

Vote : Supermareo


care to elaborate on why youve voted on me other than noticing the bandwagon and jumping on it?

[Derek B]

Well, I do love productivity... If that's a word...

Vote : Supermareo

care to elaborate on why youve voted on me other than noticing the bandwagon and jumping on it?

Does look pretty scummy....

[The Shape]

kmm why should I, you in my opinion didnt provide a valid reason for a bandwagon on me and now your doing the same to superowens seemingly, now im all for bandwagons on the first day to at least put people in a position of having to tell us something so taht we have at least something to go on for the future and in my opnion why not go with the guy who seems oh so eager to have that suspicion pointing in places other than himself

lol.

Does look pretty scummy....

as does your post to me, seems...out of character xD

[Derek B]

as does your post to me, seems...out of character xD

I wish I had money for every time someone said that, I'd be totally rich by now. Likewise, money for every time someone said "Derek looks scummy", "I agree with Derek" or "Arrows make silly roleclaims" would be pretty cool. :)

I'm always tweaking the way I play, makes me harder to read no matter what my alignment or skills. I could be mega scum or vanilla townie, but til I die no-one ever knows for sure and that's the way I like it.

:cool: <-OMG! scum smiley!

[Derek B]

I'm off to bed everyone... shame I'll probably miss out on the interesting convesation as it happens, but that's cos you Americans keep silly times. You should really fall back in line with the UK. :)

[SeanMcFly]

Well, I am kind of new to this, and am still learning the ropes, I guess a bandwagon for pressure would be a good idea, but you never know :cool:

[Astil]

Okay. I know one limit which was "emotionaly" driven. Do you do a specific limit?

[mjdgoldeneye]

I'm not against testing Glotnot, but I'd like to share that my intuition says supermareo is scum. It really isn't a fault of his own, though, as his original post leading to the 'wagon was "awkwardly inane".

It's really the fact that people seemed to pop in and say "Hey, voting for supermareo isn't a half bad idea, but why don't we look into this guy over here just cause and stop bandwagoning?"

I felt this fake "Can't we just be friends?" vibe.

[Crychon]

:cool: <-OMG! scum smiley!

All I needed to hear!

Change Vote: derek_b

[Crychon]

Ok, not really.

Anyway, this whole Glotnot thing piques my interest, so I might as well help out.

Change Vote: Glotnot

[praguepride]

My scumometer is going off the charts! All these "hey look over here" "no wait, look over here" "hey, I have no idea what's going on, lol!" posts...

That said, as I mentioned earlier I'm removing my vote from Glotnot. He didn't respond and I'm nervous about stuff happening when I'm not online.

I'm worried that he's one big bomb that will flip out and kill people who target him. Sure, it's probably not that, but I'd like to wait and let other people be the cannon fod--I mean brave expedition leaders.

Change Vote: No Vote

@Glot, you can have my vote back once you answer my question.

@mjd: I agree, except it feels like the whole forum is doing that...

[praguepride]

Well, I'm going out. Will be back in 12 hours when the Comcast technician finally restores my internetz.

[lprock]

care to elaborate on why youve voted on me other than noticing the bandwagon and jumping on it?

That's pretty much the reason everyone voted for you.

[bak42]

In VII and IX (don't remember VIII very well...) your limit was on damage dealt/received.Low HP or Aura spell triggered VIII's Limit Breaks.

vote: Glotnot

[Glotnot]

I guess I'm being a bit paranoid because I think that might be a nasty scum trick.

"I need X votes (1/2 necessary number) and I'll be invincible during the night phase."

That eats up 1/4 of the total votes, leaving only 3/4 votes available for the other lynches. Now in the beginning it might not be that bad, but imagine later on during the middle-to-end game when every vote counts.

Now entering Praguepride's paranoid fantasy scenario.

Say that Glot is scum. he tells us to dedicate a few but not too many votes and he'll be protected at night. Helpful for him but not really helpful for the rest of the town. But then again not a viscous claim, not an overpowered ability that would draw investigator attention, so we just take it as is.

Now scum can divert votes away from a lynch, promoting more "no lynch" days and thus reducing the ability of townies to lynch scum. It's subtle and seems unimportant now, but the end game possabilities are tremendous if people just accept it and drop votes on him to "charge his ability"

Now leaving praguepride's paranoid fantasy scenario.

I guess for me the important thing is whether this ability would be noticable or not?

@Glotnot: Is this a whole world effecting ability or just a personal ability?

I'll reserve further judgement and brainpower upon hearing his answer to these speculations and questions. I don't believe that this question is too invasive that it would warrant evasion...

Depending on certain game mechanics and the actions of other characters, theoretically speaking, it could affect a lot of other characters.

I guess I'm not quite sure what you mean by world affecting. It's an ability I gain. Does it end/accelerate phases? No. Nothing like that.

Prague.. good thinking, but he didn't say the votes need to stay on him. He said vote on me then switch em back.

Okay. I know one limit which was "emotionaly" driven. Do you do a specific limit?

A few.

Argh.... damn you curiosity. I always thought limits were the coolest thing in FF...I...must...find...out...

Vote: Glotnot

But you still didn't answer my important question in clear and concise terms! I will move this vote if you don't.

Is this an ability that only effects you? effects a specified target(s)? effects the people who voted on you? or is this a global event?

The specific people who vote for me are at this point irrelevant.

My scumometer is going off the charts! All these "hey look over here" "no wait, look over here" "hey, I have no idea what's going on, lol!" posts...

That said, as I mentioned earlier I'm removing my vote from Glotnot. He didn't respond and I'm nervous about stuff happening when I'm not online.

I'm worried that he's one big bomb that will flip out and kill people who target him. Sure, it's probably not that, but I'd like to wait and let other people be the cannon fod--I mean brave expedition leaders.

Change Vote: No Vote

@Glot, you can have my vote back once you answer my question.

@mjd: I agree, except it feels like the whole forum is doing that...

That's a perfectly respectable response. I had to go eat, or I would have finished my post replying to that long ago.

Again, no, my ability does not affect the world or the voters.

More specific then that, I don't really want to go.

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE AFTERNOON OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, machinesxe, Jaded, SeanMcFly)

Glotnot: 5 (Bear, Bluestar, lprock, Crychon, bak42)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

[Astil]

By the way, just to cause more confusion (kidding) I want to say Day 1 I am a miller.

[lprock]

By the way, just to cause more confusion (kidding) I want to say Day 1 I am a miller.

I cc that, I'm Barret the miller. I'm a miller because I have a motherfvcking gunarm.

[mjdgoldeneye]

By the way, just to cause more confusion (kidding) I want to say Day 1 I am a miller.

Are you in fact a miller or do you just want to say that?

I don't see the gain in saying that this early. Now I'm just intrigued and scum might be too!

[Astil]

I cc that, I'm Barret the miller. I'm a miller because I have a motherfvcking gunarm.

Noooo...

If there was a miller in VII it'd be Reeve.

Vote: lprock

@mjd every game the miller is found and everyone says "oh, shoulda said sutin earlier". So this is me doing that.

[lprock]

You cvck i'm gonna get you with one of my 8 kills tonight because I have 8 bullets in my gunarm.



I have a gun for an arm.

[Glotnot]

Noooo...

If there was a miller in VII it'd be Reeve.

Vote: lprock

@mjd every game the miller is found and everyone says "oh, shoulda said sutin earlier". So this is me doing that.

How could you not tell that was a joke? XP

[Astil]

How could you not tell that was a joke? XP

Oic...

Change Vote: No Vote

[lprock]

So easily swayed?

Hmmmmmm

[Astil]

You are most cunning, Mr. Wallace. Most cunning.

On point, wait, what is our point?

[lprock]

There was never a point.

Now roleclaim, like you promised.

[Astil]

There was never a point.

Now roleclaim, like you promised.


I never said I would roleclaim...

[Prophet]

I'm off to bed everyone... shame I'll probably miss out on the interesting convesation as it happens, but that's cos you Americans keep silly times. You should really fall back in line with the UK. :)

Hey, 90% of this country fiddles with it's clocks bi-annually. You need to meet us halfway, darnit! Don't make me run over there and tip Big Ben over ... `cause I will. And technically can, it leans 8 inches to the left ...

What? I watched it on the History Channel ...

Stop staring at me! :p

I'm not against testing Glotnot, but I'd like to share that my intuition says supermareo is scum. It really isn't a fault of his own, though, as his original post leading to the 'wagon was "awkwardly inane".

It's really the fact that people seemed to pop in and say "Hey, voting for supermareo isn't a half bad idea, but why don't we look into this guy over here just cause and stop bandwagoning?"

I felt this fake "Can't we just be friends?" vibe.

I can't speak for everyone, just my own perspective on things. I tend not to be an early phase voter, as a general rule. I like to see things unfold, and what I can pick up, which is part of why I didn't want to pile on SM. That and he was just shy of 1/3rd the vote total. I don't know ratios this game, I don't see adding weight to the scales as a good thing, if a bunch of people can jump on, and whamm-o, Cloud's dead, ya know? (Example, not meant to be anything more.)

As for Glot - I'm not entirely certain about something said, and I definitely don't want details, and even asking this question may pry into that, in which case, you can tell me you'd rather not get into it now. Is your unlocked ability constant? Same thing every night it's activated?

[Bear]

By the way, just to cause more confusion (kidding) I want to say Day 1 I am a miller.

I approve of this. While the benefits of being able to catch someone in a lie when they're claiming a miller and they're scum is great, if you even think statistically, claiming to be the miller early saves so much headache. Imagine you're a cop and you don't share your info because you think you hit the miller or you don't know if you're insane, now Astil is your test dummy. If you had to come out to catch someone else in a lie, it'd probably waste a whole day phase and you'd have to claim. Unless someone pops and says 'me too', I'm glad you did this.

[/rant about millers]

Glot, what game are you from?

[Glotnot]

Hey, 90% of this country fiddles with it's clocks bi-annually. You need to meet us halfway, darnit! Don't make me run over there and tip Big Ben over ... `cause I will. And technically can, it leans 8 inches to the left ...

What? I watched it on the History Channel ...

Stop staring at me! :p



I can't speak for everyone, just my own perspective on things. I tend not to be an early phase voter, as a general rule. I like to see things unfold, and what I can pick up, which is part of why I didn't want to pile on SM. That and he was just shy of 1/3rd the vote total. I don't know ratios this game, I don't see adding weight to the scales as a good thing, if a bunch of people can jump on, and whamm-o, Cloud's dead, ya know? (Example, not meant to be anything more.)

As for Glot - I'm not entirely certain about something said, and I definitely don't want details, and even asking this question may pry into that, in which case, you can tell me you'd rather not get into it now. Is your unlocked ability constant? Same thing every night it's activated?

Oh irony.

Nah, I believe I know what comment you're referring to, and I was kind of hoping someone would catch it.

But no. I'd rather not go into it, aside from what I've already said. :)

[Glotnot]

Glot, what game are you from?

That's a good question.

[Bear]

That's a good question.

I'll trade you.

[Glotnot]

That's a good question.

Or a stupid one.

Depends, I guess.

Seriously, given that I've already said my ability is a limit, and that the limit is used (I'm fairly certain) exclusively by my character, it stands to reason that it would be pretty easy to figure out who I am come night phase anyway. :P

[Glotnot]

I'll trade you.

Unless you end up being scum that I can use your info to ctch you in a lie with later, I don't need that information.

And you don't need mine.

[Glotnot]

And you don't need mine.

Y'know.

Unless you're looking for someone.

Seymour > Yuna style. That FFVIII chick. Sephiroth > Cloud.

[Bear]

Are you having the whole conversation by yourself?

[Glotnot]

Are you having the whole conversation by yourself?

Pretty much.

Anything to input, or should I keep going?

[Glotnot]

Pretty much.

Anything to input, or should I keep going?

And actually, I take it back. That whole catch you in a lie thing sounds pretty good.

I'll trade you hint for hint.

Not explicite statement.

Also I have a feeling I'm going to be the target of Sephiroth/FFVIII Chick/Seymour tonight for avoiding this question.

[Bear]

Pretty much.

Anything to input, or should I keep going?

It's funny to watch you stretch me wanting a return on my investment ('Cause let's face it, you wouldn't have any votes without me leaping) to me being a grey-haired katana-wielder.

[Bear]

And I'm Not Even From A Numbered Game.

[Astil]

FFVIII chick is Ultimeccia. I saw no Sephiroth. How do you know Sephiroth is looking for Cloud?

[Glotnot]

It's funny to watch you stretch me wanting a return on my investment ('Cause let's face it, you wouldn't have any votes without me leaping) to me being a grey-haired katana-wielder.

Oh don't find it insulting, it's not meant to be. I'm just distracting myself from sleep which I should really be doing.

I understand perfectly your interest in knowing who I am since you've cooperated with me.

But really, I don't want to say much about my character. It's not a character I thoroughly enjoyed while playing the game he/she/it's from. So it's one I'd have much fun with in making not-so-subtle allusions to throughout the game.

Like, if I was Zidane, you'd already know.

[Glotnot]

FFVIII chick is Ultimeccia. I saw no Sephiroth. How do you know Sephiroth is looking for Cloud?

'Cause if Seymour is looking for Yuna and Ultimecia is looking for the person she had some kind of unhealthy obsession with in FFVIII, then it stands to reason Sephiroth would probably be looking for Cloud.

Kuja may be looking for Zidane for all I know, though that's rather doubtful and wouldn't make as much sense, since he always knew where Zidane was. 'Cause he's basically the one who was sending Zidane around like the big manipulator he was.

[Bear]

The filter turning all caps into mixed case really makes it lose all drama.

[Glotnot]

And I'm Not Even From A Numbered Game.

I'm gonna count that as a hint. >.>

I use a sword.

Which is a valid hint, as it negates the possibility of me being most spellcasters.

[Bear]

I'm gonna count that as a hint. >.>

I use a sword.

Which is a valid hint, as it negates the possibility of me being most spellcasters.

Fair enough.

[Astil]

Sephiroth was dissmisive of Cloud all game.

Ultimeccia wants main chick. Riona.

[masterded]

Here you go.

Vote: Glotnot

[praguepride]

And I'm Not Even From A Numbered Game.

Back from a movie (saw Wolverine, was actually really good!)

I'm calling it that he's a Red Mage from the first final fantasy. If it's the first, it doesn't have a number, right?

I hope to all the gods in all the games that it's not mystic quest though....

Anyway, off to bed for real!

(other possibilities are Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Advanced)

[Midnightnick]

Vote: LPRock

Yeah, you're not the miller.
(it's because i am.)
Trust me.

[Astil]

Back from a movie (saw Wolverine, was actually really good!)

I'm calling it that he's a Red Mage from the first final fantasy. If it's the first, it doesn't have a number, right?

I hope to all the gods in all the games that it's not mystic quest though....

Anyway, off to bed for real!

(other possibilities are Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Advanced)

Tactics
Tactics Advanced
Tactics Advanced 2
Crystal Chronicals

[Midnightnick]

Tactics
Tactics Advanced
Tactics Advanced 2
Crystal Chronicals

You forgot Mystic Quest

[Astil]

Tactics
Tactics Advanced
Tactics Advanced 2
Crystal Chronicals

Possibly Dirge of Cirberus and Crises Core, don't know the naming structure of those.

[moon_lit_tears]

Tactics
Tactics Advanced
Tactics Advanced 2 <----number
Crystal Chronicals
ummmmmm.....

[Midnightnick]

Possibly Dirge of Cirberus and Crises Core, don't know the naming structure of those.

I imagine those would fall under 7.

[Astil]

Possibly Dirge of Cirberus and Crises Core, don't know the naming structure of those.

True.
@midnightnick I wouldn't say I've been missing it Bob. ;]

[moon_lit_tears]

I bought crisis corp, took me a month to open it, played it for three days, then got rid of it. It was to much like tactics, not my cup of tea.

[Bear]

^Not from FF1

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE AFTERNOON OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

Glotnot: 6 (Bear, Bluestar, lprock, Crychon, bak42, masterded)

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, machinesxe, Jaded, SeanMcFly)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

I'm off to sleep for the night, folks.

[praguepride]

Vote: LPRock

Yeah, you're not the miller.
(it's because i am.)
Trust me.

Ummm.... I do believe that this warrants looking at. Time for a bit of pressure.

Vote: LPRock

@Games: Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy Tactics
Crystal Chronicles
Final Fantasy Advanced

(Dirge of Cerberus is FF7: Dirge, the other is Crisis Core: FF7)

[Derek B]

In completly unrelated to this game news, I just defeated Marlboro for the Lvl 14 title in the Wrestling Game. Awesome. :)

And back to this... lots of people trying to leave subtle hints as I would've expected. Time to once again restate a law of mafia. Most people (obviously) miss subtle hints... but it only takes 1 scummy person to get it for an entire mafia team to know it while most people on their own will struggle to get it.

So in short... subtle hints often backfire in the early going. I think I've picked up on some but not as many as a mafia team could have picked up on. :(

[The Two]

Vote: LPRock

Yeah, you're not the miller.
(it's because i am.)
Trust me.

Astil, you're not gonna dispute this?

I'm pretty sure Lprock was joking with his silly miller claim, but Astil seemed serious.

Anybody want to take odds on having 2 millers? So which of these two is lying?

[praguepride]

Wait, LPRock's was a fake claim? Why the heck are people false claiming the miller!?

Or did I just encounter a non-sequiter.

*looks back through the thead

It would appear that midnightnick is disputing Astil's miller claim, but votes for LPRock

:confused: HUH? :confused:

[BlueStar]

/waves fist...

Some interesting stuff here. I'm surprised "The Glot Experiment" has so many people opposed to it.

I'll leave my vote for another couple of hours.

Also, Nick, how do you know Lprock isn't who he claims to be? Or are you joking?

[shigakai]

Man, I missed alot:(. Curse my computer!!!

[petrija]

Is it at all possible lprock was joking when he said he was miller? Read the posts over..
He claimed to be a vig as well. It all just seemed very snark, not to mention something that wouldn't be a smart thing to claim on Day1.

[petrija]

Man, I missed alot:(. Curse my computer!!!

Scumface.

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE EVENING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

Glotnot: 6 (Bear, Bluestar, lprock, Crychon, bak42, masterded)

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, machinesxe, Jaded, SeanMcFly)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

lprock: 1 (praguepride)

[The Two]

Is it at all possible lprock was joking when he said he was miller? Read the posts over..
He claimed to be a vig as well. It all just seemed very snark, not to mention something that wouldn't be a smart thing to claim on Day1.

Put it this way, I genuinely laughed when I read lprock's "miller claim". I don't know how you could read that as anything other than snark, and him mocking Astil.

Astil says, "Yeah, btw, I'm a miller" and lprock comes back with, "Oh yeah, me too, I'm Miller Barratt because I have a motherfvcking gunarm, and I'm going to kill you tonight with one of my 8 nightly gunarm kills because I have 8 bullets in my gunarm. Gunarm. Gunarm. I have a gun for an arm. Gunarm." How that reads as anything other than snark and sarcasm and mockery is beyond me.

If I'm wrong, lprock can correct me and confirm that he is claiming miller by virtue of gunarm.

Astil and MNN, however, have claimed miller with a straight face. What interests me also is that Nick ignored Astil's serious claim and voted for Lprock instead. I think those two need to have it out.

We have at least 2 (maybe 3) miller claims so far, and that seems unlikely to me.

[shigakai]

Scumface.

Name calling isnt nice:p

[praguepride]

FF wise, I can't really think of any "real" millers.

Most FF games have an Intro Big Bad who turns out to have been manipulated by the REAL Big Bad, but I wouldn't go so far as calling them "millers" as they were generally evil, nasty people, just made eviler/nastier by their manipulators.

I can think of a couple millers but they could just as easily be scum.

MNN & Astil: What game are you from?

[Astil]

I dont claim to know game mechanics here... but yeah, too many millers. I know of a few others.

Sorry, MNN, not buyin.

Vote: midnightnick

@ Prague I'm a "heretic".

[Derek B]

I dont claim to know game mechanics here... but yeah, too many millers. I know of a few others.

Sorry, MNN, not buyin.

Vote: midnightnick

@ Prague I'm a "heretic".

If this is you trying to claim you are part of a group, then claim that and be the spokesperson for that group. One name of an obvious townie character is all it would take, and if it goes undisputed then a lot of progress can be made.

[Derek B]

Wish I could edit... I think I get what you're getting at Astil but I want to be sure.

[Astil]

Wish I could edit... I think I get what you're getting at Astil but I want to be sure.

One name from the group: Ramza.

[praguepride]

Now to hear MNN's response...

[Derek B]

I'm going to be lurking around for most of the rest of today... but I'm certainly interested in hearing a response from MNN too.

[d_w_w]

Astil and MNN, however, have claimed miller with a straight face. What interests me also is that Nick ignored Astil's serious claim and voted for Lprock instead. I think those two need to have it out.

We have at least 2 (maybe 3) miller claims so far, and that seems unlikely to me.

Agreed.

Seemed like a very strange post from MNN.

[d_w_w]

One name from the group: Ramza.

/nod

Honestly, didn't expect that type of game to be represented (but would be happy if it was...)

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE EVENING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

Glotnot: 6 (Bear, Bluestar, lprock, Crychon, bak42, masterded)

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, machinesxe, Jaded, SeanMcFly)

lprock: 2 (Midnightnick, praguepride)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

SuperOwens: 1 (The Shape)

Midnightnick: 1 (Astil)

[Derek B]

/nod

Honestly, didn't expect that type of game to be represented (but would be happy if it was...)

Honestly, I didn't expect them either given the opening write up and the likely people from those games, 7 and 9 that I would expect to see first. But I didn't really want to let MNN know that before he came back on.

[praguepride]

lprock was a red herring. Need to hear from MNN

Change Vote: No Vote

[Midnightnick]

I dont claim to know game mechanics here... but yeah, too many millers. I know of a few others.

Sorry, MNN, not buyin.

Vote: midnightnick

@ Prague I'm a "heretic".

To be completely honest, I'm surprised that I'm a miller.

It's because I'm a loner and pretty much apathetic but I'm a pretty definitive character of the PSX Era of FF.

[Midnightnick]

FF wise, I can't really think of any "real" millers.

Most FF games have an Intro Big Bad who turns out to have been manipulated by the REAL Big Bad, but I wouldn't go so far as calling them "millers" as they were generally evil, nasty people, just made eviler/nastier by their manipulators.

I can think of a couple millers but they could just as easily be scum.

MNN & Astil: What game are you from?

VIII.

[The Shape]

Vote: Midnightnick

I almost just voted: Macbeth cause of an essay I'm currently writing but yeah. I sense an indie with an ulterior motive about to claim his actual character but as a miller.

[Derek B]

To be completely honest, I'm surprised that I'm a miller.

It's because I'm a loner and pretty much apathetic but I'm a pretty definitive character of the PSX Era of FF.

So you're basically saying your a lead character from one of the games already mentioned in the opening write up, rather than a guy from a relatively obscure game who seems to be claiming he's a miller and part of a group?

Because that's the way I've been thinking about Astil's claim since he pretty much said he's definitely a miller and from Tactics. Those claims don't look good to me.

[Midnightnick]

So you're basically saying your a lead character from one of the games already mentioned in the opening write up, rather than a guy from a relatively obscure game who seems to be claiming he's a miller and part of a group?

Because that's the way I've been thinking about Astil's claim since he pretty much said he's definitely a miller and from Tactics. Those claims don't look good to me.

Bingo. I wouldn't false claim a character of this nature.

[Derek B]

Bingo. I wouldn't false claim a character of this nature.

You've said enough for me. Unless someone counter claims your character, which by now seems pretty obvious, I'd say you're solid.

VOTE: Astil

I'm interested to see how his miller claim from a game not in the opening write up stands up, especially since he's part of a group. That just screams mafia to me, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

[praguepride]

When did Astil claim he was part of a group? Can I get a quote so I don't have to dig through the pages at work :D

[Derek B]

I dont claim to know game mechanics here... but yeah, too many millers. I know of a few others.

Sorry, MNN, not buyin.

Vote: midnightnick

@ Prague I'm a "heretic".

When did Astil claim he was part of a group? Can I get a quote so I don't have to dig through the pages at work :D

If this is you trying to claim you are part of a group, then claim that and be the spokesperson for that group. One name of an obvious townie character is all it would take, and if it goes undisputed then a lot of progress can be made.

Wish I could edit... I think I get what you're getting at Astil but I want to be sure.

One name from the group: Ramza.

That series... I might be misunderstanding him but this looks to me like he's naming a character from his group, and Ramza is a main character from Final Fantasy tactics according to the research I did (I had no clue). If that isn't him claiming he's in a group of millers from a game that isn't mentioned in the opening write ups... well, then I'm wrong. It does happen from time but I don't think I am this time. (or any other really :p)

[praguepride]

Given the two claims, it is the weaker one. So far there haven't been any indicators that Tactics is even in.

Plus he's not actually claiming to be Ramza (a main protaganist leader) just that he's part of that group.

Considering the number of players and the number of games, I'm guessing that even IF Tactics made it in, there wouldn't be more then one or two, let alone an entire group.

Vote: Astil

[ShadowedFlames]

IT IS NOW THE EVENING OF DAY ONE. WITH 35 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 18 TO LYNCH.

YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 2009 AT 5:30 PM EDT, 10:30 PM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.

Glotnot: 6 (Bear, Bluestar, lprock, Crychon, bak42, masterded)

supermareo: 5 (Glotnot, mjdgoldeneye, machinesxe, Jaded, SeanMcFly)

Astil: 2 (derek_b, praguepride)

Midnightnick: 2 (Astil, The Shape)

The Shape: 1 (supermareo)

lprock: 1 (Midnightnick)

**FOUR AND A HALF HOURS TO DEADLINE**

[Tha Black Phenom]

supermareo situation seems to have died down. The two millers situation looks interesting at the most, and MNN's claim seems to be rock solid, apparently. Anyone know in which group "Ramza" could potentially be a part of? To be honest, I'm not completely against the idea of two millers, but..

[The Two]

That was surprising, for some reason I expected Nick to be the liar, but may just be force of habit :)

Vote: Astil

I think we need to hear more about this team of millers.

[Astil]

Give us one day, and I'll prove to you Derek what I am.

Also, how is MNN a miller? Doesn't make sense, as he SAVED THE WORLD.

Seeing as these are set after the games (see Kimahri's death). So why exactly is MNN a miller.

We went against a church, he saved the world from a sorceress.

Geh?

[The Shape]

supermareo situation seems to have died down. The two millers situation looks interesting at the most, and MNN's claim seems to be rock solid, apparently. Anyone know in which group "Ramza" could potentially be a part of? To be honest, I'm not completely against the idea of two millers, but..

Not sure whether as always I THINK you're scum, or just HOPE you are based on this post...

Vote remains on Midnight, I don't like the way it suddenly shifted and was about to ask why exactly he's a miller, despite not having any idea who he's on about.

[Astil]

Seeing as it's unlikely anyone's getting strung up, let me say this. SeeD members were trained not to become involved in government affairs and were non affliated. Also, at the end of the game you fly around WITH THE PRESIDENT. How is this a miller?

It makes little sense to me.

Also, also, my group, stay quiet. Lets not blow our whole spot for the scum to kill us.

[Derek B]

Seeing as it's unlikely anyone's getting strung up, let me say this. SeeD members were trained not to become involved in government affairs and were non affliated. Also, at the end of the game you fly around WITH THE PRESIDENT. How is this a miller?

It makes little sense to me.

Also, also, my group, stay quiet. Lets not blow our whole spot for the scum to kill us.

He's claiming a character that is in the game, almost beyond doubt. If you want to talk mechanics, I'd say that since SeeD were outlawed in the game and hunted down by the sorceress that there's a perfectly good chance for them being millers. Short of a counter-claim, I'm believing him because his game is in the opening write up.

You, on the other hand, are claiming a group of millers from a game that isn't mentioned in the opening write up. In terms of likelihood to be in the game, you are on the outside edge AT BEST. Plus, an entire group of millers? That sounds like a group of SCUM to me and I should know... I've been in enough of them.

The onus at this point in time is to come up with a viable defense for your relatively obscure, unmentioned miller group rather than attack a character who is pretty much guaranteed to be in.

[praguepride]

I guess what really irks me is that Ramza shouldn't be a miller.

The whole point of the FF:Tactics was that the "heretic" WAS a hero, and that the supposed hero was really just a d*** who stole credit.

Although they were branded "heretics" they were viewed as saviors to the people.

Meanwhile SeeD were basically pawns of the Big Bad for the longest time. Everyone heard "SeeD...oh, that means you're working for EVIL!"

One could make the arguement that it was the same for Cloud from VII but he QUIT. He was a mercenary when the game began, a mercenary with a checkered past.

In FF8, the main character continued to work for (and get paid) by the "evil organization" because his particular branch was run by an alright guy. Who was murdered in the OP.

[Midnightnick]

Give us one day, and I'll prove to you Derek what I am.

Also, how is MNN a miller? Doesn't make sense, as he SAVED THE WORLD.

Seeing as these are set after the games (see Kimahri's death). So why exactly is MNN a miller.

We went against a church, he saved the world from a sorceress.

Geh?

As I said. Completely surprised I'm a Miller Astil. I mean, there's more than just the miller aspect but I'm not going to reveal everything clearly

I never said there wasn't a chance you aren't a miller as well, hence the no vote on you at the moment.

It's just, I happen to be as well because of my "loner" attitude, and because of that. all investigations that are done concerning me will turn me up as non-town aligned.

[Midnightnick]

Not sure whether as always I THINK you're scum, or just HOPE you are based on this post...

Vote remains on Midnight, I don't like the way it suddenly shifted and was about to ask why exactly he's a miller, despite not having any idea who he's on about.

It's all but said explicitly who I am Shape.

[praguepride]

Just think about the game where the young kid with a checkered past who doesn't really care about anything anymore suddenly discovers a love interest that causes him to open his eyes and fulfill his destiny as savior...


oh wait, that's just about all of them :D

To narrow it down, think VIII

[Tha Black Phenom]

Not sure whether as always I THINK you're scum, or just HOPE you are based on this post...

Vote remains on Midnight, I don't like the way it suddenly shifted and was about to ask why exactly he's a miller, despite not having any idea who he's on about.

Feel free to choose. ;)

Miller group, woah I missed something. Gonna check more to be sure.

And why not combine theories? What if MNN's character IS an indie? Or is that quite unreasonable from the fanatics' POV?

[The Shape]

It's all but said explicitly who I am Shape.

I have no idea about final fantasy and cba researching. I played a bit of 9, Vivi I think the guy was? and some other stuff, never really got into it though.

[Midnightnick]

Feel free to choose. ;)

Miller group, woah I missed something. Gonna check more to be sure.

And why not combine theories? What if MNN's character IS an indie? Or is that quite unreasonable from the fanatics' POV?

...

Why would I be an Indie?

I'm Town Aligned.