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foolinc
06-06-2009, 11:51 PM
You know what C-verse gimmick I really miss?
Shane Hannigans.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/foolinc/shenanigans.jpg
Comradebot
06-06-2009, 11:51 PM
Wait, scum would make us vote extra to lynch UFC ... in order for us to think UFC is scum and lynch him...
Why not just let us lynch him?
The lulz?
GruntMark
06-06-2009, 11:51 PM
Wait, scum would make us vote extra to lynch UFC ... in order for us to think UFC is scum and lynch him...
Why not just let us lynch him?
I swear, I've agreed with your point of view so often in this game Imma be super pissed if you turn up scum.
Astil
06-06-2009, 11:53 PM
Seriously, why would scum try to delay King's vote.
Comradebot
06-06-2009, 11:54 PM
Well, screw it...
Vote: UFC-King
I know it'd make sense to just let us lynch him, but... I can't shake the fact that manipulating the vote could be the scum playing some form of mindgames.
GruntMark
06-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Maybe they havent. Maybe someone is a 0 voter and doesnt want to out themselves as it.
Or maybe King just naturally takes more votes to send to the gallows.
Astil
06-06-2009, 11:56 PM
The lulz?
Oh ... well ...
I tap two blue and play counterspell. The lulz has been countered. This is now srs bsns.
mjdgoldeneye
06-06-2009, 11:57 PM
Seriously, why would scum try to delay King's vote.
Maybe they just don't want him to die or want to stall.
If anything, this is more reason to lynch him, not less.
Don't look to far into it. No need for a WIFOM situation of mind-***ery.
bak42
06-06-2009, 11:58 PM
Maybe they havent. Maybe someone is a 0 voter and doesnt want to out themselves as it.
Or maybe King just naturally takes more votes to send to the gallows.
There could be a vote negator out there and the person whose vote they negated doesn't know that their vote doesn't count.
foolinc
06-07-2009, 12:00 AM
Seriously, why would scum try to delay King's vote.
A no lynch might work out better for them since it forces us waste another day voting for King if we wish to lynch him for being inactive.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 12:01 AM
Oh ... well ...
I tap two blue and play counterspell. The lulz has been countered. This is now srs bsns.
I tap 6 mountains and cast 6 lightning bolts. I win.
Comradebot
06-07-2009, 12:04 AM
http://www.manaleak.com/store/images/pic.php?link=4e/thicket_basilisk.jpg
All scum blockage is now destroyed.
Seriously, I once had an ingenius plan to create a deck filled with NOTHING but various different basilisks as my creatures... back in middle school.
Would've been lulzy to see guys throwing out all these massive monsters, just to get slapped down by my horde of murderous kamikaze lizards.
Comradebot
06-07-2009, 12:05 AM
http://www.manaleak.com/store/images/pic.php?link=4e/thicket_basilisk.jpg
All scum blockage is now destroyed.
Seriously, I once had an ingenius plan to create a deck filled with NOTHING but various different basilisks as my creatures... back in middle school.
Would've been lulzy to see guys throwing out all these massive monsters, just to get slapped down by my horde of murderous kamikaze lizards.
FRAK!
http://www.manaleak.com/store/images/pic.php?link=4e/thicket_basilisk.jpg
Now all scum blockage is destroyed.
Astil
06-07-2009, 12:06 AM
Directs MJD's attention to the Platnum Angel on the field.
Smiles big.
Platnum Angel
Artifact Angel
7 colorless
4/4
Flying
You cannot lose and your opponent cannot win.
bak42
06-07-2009, 12:07 AM
I tap 6 mountains and cast 6 lightning bolts. I win.
I turn on a giant fan and blow all your cards away. I win.:p
foolinc
06-07-2009, 12:11 AM
I tap 6 mountains and cast 6 lightning bolts. I win.
Plays Animate Dead with a Worldgorger Dragon in the graveyard. Accumulates 500 mana through the Dragon combo and switches to Ambassador Laquatus to eliminate your library.
Thanks for playing
Comradebot
06-07-2009, 12:12 AM
So, I think the soil in here is now properly fertilized to grow some truly massive virginity crops.
Indeed, we should have quite the harvest.
Astil
06-07-2009, 12:15 AM
So, I think the soil in here is now properly fertilized to grow some truly massive virginity crops.
Indeed, we should have quite the harvest.
Hey, hey!
I countered the lulz.
@ Fool, that's cool, thanks for putting all my cards in my hand. :)
Midnightnick
06-07-2009, 12:15 AM
So, I think the soil in here is now properly fertilized to grow some truly massive virginity crops.
Indeed, we should have quite the harvest.
I'm sticking out of this harvest. :rolleyes:
Astil
06-07-2009, 12:21 AM
FINISH HIM!
foolinc
06-07-2009, 12:21 AM
Hey, hey!
I countered the lulz.
@ Fool, that's cool, thanks for putting all my cards in my hand. :)
Those go into the graveyard, not your hand.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 12:23 AM
http://www.manaleak.com/store/images/pic.php?link=4e/thicket_basilisk.jpg
All scum blockage is now destroyed.
Seriously, I once had an ingenius plan to create a deck filled with NOTHING but various different basilisks as my creatures... back in middle school.
Would've been lulzy to see guys throwing out all these massive monsters, just to get slapped down by my horde of murderous kamikaze lizards.
FRAK!
http://www.manaleak.com/store/images/pic.php?link=4e/thicket_basilisk.jpg
Now all scum blockage is destroyed.
Lure. I combines it.
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/images/Products/mtg%20art/Fourth%20Alternate%20Edition/Lure.jpg
Astil
06-07-2009, 12:23 AM
Those go into the graveyard, not your hand.
Oh. /shrug. Nice lil combo then.
bak42
06-07-2009, 12:29 AM
I'm feeling somewhat left out since I've never played MtG.
ya_its_me
06-07-2009, 12:31 AM
Hey Arrows, I changed my vote onto UFC-King from Zero9Teen a while back...
unless...
Shane Hannigans!
Midnightnick
06-07-2009, 12:33 AM
I'm feeling somewhat left out since I've never played MtG.
It's cool. I never played either.
I'll stick with my 20 sided die.
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 12:35 AM
It's cool. I never played either.
I'll stick with my 20 sided die.
*tries to roll a 20*
*rolls a 1*
/failure on so many levels :(
Arrows
06-07-2009, 12:37 AM
Hey Arrows, I changed my vote onto UFC-King from Zero9Teen a while back...
unless...
Shane Hannigans!
Thanks for pointing that out.
Lynch has been achieved. Write up coming shortly.
ya_its_me
06-07-2009, 12:38 AM
Thanks for pointing that out.
Lynch has been achieved. Write up coming shortly.
There we go. :)
Astil
06-07-2009, 12:38 AM
Actually, Nick, MtG uses 20 sided die as life counters sometimes.
Arrows
06-07-2009, 12:44 AM
Day Two
Everyone gathered at their normal spot, discussing their choices for the lynch of the day as they went about their normal business in the youth center. For all of the answers they'd hoped to have coming into the day, they had none.
Then all attention fell on someone else. Someone quiet, sitting alone near the juice bar. As a large number of the patrons made their way over, UFC-KING wouldn't even have time to speak as they drug their choice towards the middle of the room.
It was there that this life was taken, a casualty of what would be a very long war. Of course, when they realized what they'd done, they couldn't help but feel bad about the situation.
UFC-KING is dead. He was Marge, Angel Grove Aligned Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick.
It is now Night Phase Two. You have until 2:00 AM EDT, 7:00 AM GMT Monday June 8th to get your night actions sent in to BlueStar and Arrows.
ya_its_me
06-07-2009, 12:45 AM
Day Two
Everyone gathered at their normal spot, discussing their choices for the lynch of the day as they went about their normal business in the youth center. For all of the answers they'd hoped to have coming into the day, they had none.
Then all attention fell on someone else. Someone quiet, sitting alone near the juice bar. As a large number of the patrons made their way over, UFC-KING wouldn't even have time to speak as they drug their choice towards the middle of the room.
It was there that this life was taken, a casualty of what would be a very long war. Of course, when they realized what they'd done, they couldn't help but feel bad about the situation.
UFC-KING is dead. He was Marge, Angel Grove Aligned Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick.
It is now Night Phase Two. You have until 2:00 AM EDT, 7:00 AM GMT Monday June 8th to get your night actions sent in to BlueStar and Arrows.
Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick...anyone got a clue what she would do?
Tha Black Phenom
06-07-2009, 12:48 AM
PC Geek... watcher... who knows.
Still think we shoulda lynched 019 but what's done is done.
Yay, me can post fully.
ShadowedFlames
06-07-2009, 12:48 AM
Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick...anyone got a clue what she would do?
I'm not sure, but likely something to do with Billy, the original Blue Ranger.
Something for me to look up after a round of sleep.
ya_its_me
06-07-2009, 12:53 AM
I'm not sure, but likely something to do with Billy, the original Blue Ranger.
Something for me to look up after a round of sleep.
I'm with you there. Night night.
Wallbanger
06-07-2009, 12:55 AM
OK, if Marge is in, there's no good reason why Melissa wouldn't. At least that's my opinion.
Actarus
06-07-2009, 12:57 AM
OK, if Marge is in, there's no good reason why Melissa wouldn't. At least that's my opinion.
/ nod
While it stinks UFC was actually townie, that this...Marge person is actually in this game supports Z9T and Self's roles being in this game in my mind as well.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 12:57 AM
Day Two
Everyone gathered at their normal spot, discussing their choices for the lynch of the day as they went about their normal business in the youth center. For all of the answers they'd hoped to have coming into the day, they had none.
Then all attention fell on someone else. Someone quiet, sitting alone near the juice bar. As a large number of the patrons made their way over, UFC-KING wouldn't even have time to speak as they drug their choice towards the middle of the room.
It was there that this life was taken, a casualty of what would be a very long war. Of course, when they realized what they'd done, they couldn't help but feel bad about the situation.
UFC-KING is dead. He was Marge, Angel Grove Aligned Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick.
It is now Night Phase Two. You have until 2:00 AM EDT, 7:00 AM GMT Monday June 8th to get your night actions sent in to BlueStar and Arrows.
Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick...anyone got a clue what she would do?
I've watched one episode of Power Rangers in the last, maybe, 5 years (or more). It was 2 nights ago... It was the one featuring Marge!
Basically, in the episode, there's supposed to be a dance at the youth center place that the Rangers hang out at. Billy didn't have a date, but he meets Marge who is as nerdy as him. They decide to go to the dance, but they also decide to meet earlier to talk about Billy's weather machine or some other plot McGuffin.
Meanwhile, Rita calls upon a random villain named Madame Woe (voiced by Alex Borstein, who's Lois from Family Guy) to capture Billy. However, she accidentally captures Marge when she shows up at the meeting place.
The Rangers team up to save Marge from the alternate dimension she was placed in and everyone is happy. Near the end, Marge talks about how she especially liked the Blue Ranger.
As far as I know, Marge is as obscure as Melissa. 019 isn't looking as bad now.
How lucky and awesome am I? :p
Astil
06-07-2009, 12:58 AM
OK, if Marge is in, there's no good reason why Melissa wouldn't. At least that's my opinion.
Mine too, sorry Z9T.
Midnightnick
06-07-2009, 12:58 AM
Actually, Nick, MtG uses 20 sided die as life counters sometimes.
Oh score. Break the walls down, teach me Astil?
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 01:01 AM
Let's look at it this way: Instead of lynching 019, we lynched the perfect analogue (and he was completely inactive).
Melissa and now Marge make me wonder: Does every Power Ranger have a linked friend of some sort? Maybe an unknown enabler or "plot device" that can interfere with their powers?
I'm intrigued...
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 01:02 AM
Also, if Marge is in, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Madame Woe show up. She'd be perfect for a scummy jailer or roleblocker.
Astil
06-07-2009, 01:03 AM
Oh score. Break the walls down, teach me Astil?
Hopefully that's sarcastic excitment, because if not prepare for extreme dissapointment.
In Magic, you start with 20 life. You go down (or up, but mostly down) from there.
Hence using a d20.
Astil
06-07-2009, 01:06 AM
Night all.
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 01:09 AM
Mine too, sorry Z9T.
*shrug*
/no hard feelings
Midnightnick
06-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Hopefully that's sarcastic excitment, because if not prepare for extreme dissapointment.
In Magic, you start with 20 life. You go down (or up, but mostly down) from there.
Hence using a d20.
I wasn't being sarcastic. :o
Prophet
06-07-2009, 01:32 AM
All right, first off ... deadliest warrior is ... awesome!
Secondly, when I started rolling this ball down the hill, I honestly didn't expect it to reach this conclusion. Kind of hoped he'd see the votes, and admit to actually following along. However, now clearing Z9t in the process, does give it a silver lining. Sorry you have to be restricted longer, Z9t, but we'll get ya the win for it. :D
Thirdly ... deadliest warrior is AWESOME!
Oh ... I said that already. Oopsie!
All right, first off ... deadliest warrior is ... awesome!
Secondly, when I started rolling this ball down the hill, I honestly didn't expect it to reach this conclusion. Kind of hoped he'd see the votes, and admit to actually following along. However, now clearing Z9t in the process, does give it a silver lining. Sorry you have to be restricted longer, Z9t, but we'll get ya the win for it. :D
Thirdly ... deadliest warrior is AWESOME!
Oh ... I said that already. Oopsie!
I agree on all counts!
Prophet
06-07-2009, 02:28 AM
I agree on all counts!
The one between the pirate and the knight was insane! When he dropped the armored foe, and opened his visor, while holding a flintlock?
That show pumped all kinds of testosterone into me. Gave me an awesome idea for a full out game, too. Another of those wild it'd never work ideas. I'm scheming as we speak. lol
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 02:33 AM
All right, first off ... deadliest warrior is ... awesome!
Secondly, when I started rolling this ball down the hill, I honestly didn't expect it to reach this conclusion. Kind of hoped he'd see the votes, and admit to actually following along. However, now clearing Z9t in the process, does give it a silver lining. Sorry you have to be restricted longer, Z9t, but we'll get ya the win for it. :D
Thirdly ... deadliest warrior is AWESOME!
Oh ... I said that already. Oopsie!
*Some guy called Prophet runs amock blathering on about something or other*
*Draws a badly scrawled picture of a man with the inscription Deadliest Warrior beside it and a arrows pointing to the man, complete with thumbs up and the the word awesome placed randomly and repeatedly*
*Gives my own thumbs up gesture*
/irreverence :D
treton
06-07-2009, 02:36 AM
Caught up. (Though I will get behind again)
Let's look at it this way: Instead of lynching 019, we lynched the perfect analogue (and he was completely inactive).
Melissa and now Marge make me wonder: Does every Power Ranger have a linked friend of some sort? Maybe an unknown enabler or "plot device" that can interfere with their powers?
I'm intrigued...
That would be interesting. It looks like that to me, but then again I would believe anything.
It's sad to see a townie down, but UFC wasn't active (but then again so am I), don't know if I would of vote, to much irony.
All right, first off ... deadliest warrior is ... awesome!
Secondly, when I started rolling this ball down the hill, I honestly didn't expect it to reach this conclusion. Kind of hoped he'd see the votes, and admit to actually following along. However, now clearing Z9t in the process, does give it a silver lining. Sorry you have to be restricted longer, Z9t, but we'll get ya the win for it. :D
Thirdly ... deadliest warrior is AWESOME!
Oh ... I said that already. Oopsie!
Deadliest warrior is awesome, though the matchups are a little unbalanced with the warriors time in history, advances of weaponry over time, and the environment. But still awesome.
Prophet
06-07-2009, 03:00 AM
*Some guy called Prophet runs amock blathering on about something or other*
*Draws a badly scrawled picture of a man with the inscription Deadliest Warrior beside it and a arrows pointing to the man, complete with thumbs up and the the word awesome placed randomly and repeatedly*
*Gives my own thumbs up gesture*
/irreverence :D
A part of me feels so bad about this, but the creativity you display in expressing your thoughts is great.
Deadliest warrior is awesome, though the matchups are a little unbalanced with the warriors time in history, advances of weaponry over time, and the environment. But still awesome.
I thought that, at first, but the Spartan skewering the ninja, in gear how many years older, made me rethink it. Then I felt geeky, when I raised my fist and yelled "SPARTA!" with him, like I could hang with that guy. I couldn't even carry his shield. lol
It's fascinating, though. That one, and Life After People. And both times, I get sucked in with these awesome visuals, and like 11 minutes pass, and I think "wow, how interesting, I didn't realize that bef ... dammit, I'm learning!" Darn television has turned on me! :p
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 03:05 AM
A part of me feels so bad about this, but the creativity you display in expressing your thoughts is great.
*bows politely*
I'm perfectly comfortable with the lynch. It goes some was towards clearing 019, who actually contributes, and all we lost was UFC_King, who doesn't.
Still, tonight people have got to get on clearing a few of the more suspect names out there. With PP coming back (today?) I know I'd like some hard evidence backing me up so we don't get in the same arguments over and over again.
Secondly: as this would be meta-gaming, I'm not going to answer that question in this thread. When I get around to continuing my nightly write-up reviews for FF Mafia (note to myself: I need to get on that at some point this weekend...), I'll touch on it there, possibly. As it stands, I'm not going to answer that here out of conflict of interest, and also because we had this discussion earlier in the game, if memory serves.
It doesn't matter now, but that's a perfectly acceptable decision.
Derek B
06-07-2009, 03:53 AM
Morning all.
I wouldn't normally say this, but I'm glad we mislynched. UFC can use it as a lesson in being active for future games (as can other players) while we have also learned the nature of more of the potential roles in this game. I've been trying to do some digging on some possible characters and my brain has gone numb from effort.... but I at least feel like I can recognise some names now, which is always good.
And in preperations for Pokemon mafia (which will be awesome) I've started a new game of Ruby and watching more pokemon episodes in the background. 230 down, just another 300 or so to go! :D
Antithesis
06-07-2009, 06:10 AM
I guess the result worked out, but it isn't clear to me, reading this. Was there an issue with the vote count?
Arrows counted 20 of us having votes on UFC_King. 20 was the number we needed, but it didn't go through. THEN ya_its_me reminded Arrows of an earlier vote change, making it 21 votes on him, and it went through.
So either no voter, or vote manipulator took one of our votes off (not sure why) or there's an outside chance UFC needed an extra vote on him. I'm leaning towards the first option.
Antithesis
06-07-2009, 06:31 AM
Arrows counted 20 of us having votes on UFC_King. 20 was the number we needed, but it didn't go through. THEN ya_its_me reminded Arrows of an earlier vote change, making it 21 votes on him, and it went through.
So either no voter, or vote manipulator took one of our votes off (not sure why) or there's an outside chance UFC needed an extra vote on him. I'm leaning towards the first option.
Thats what i thought. Given that momentum was against UFC, the most likely scenario is either UFC needed +1 as part of his role or there is a no vote in the game.
SuperOwens
06-07-2009, 06:32 AM
Morning all.
I wouldn't normally say this, but I'm glad we mislynched. UFC can use it as a lesson in being active for future games (as can other players) while we have also learned the nature of more of the potential roles in this game. I've been trying to do some digging on some possible characters and my brain has gone numb from effort.... but I at least feel like I can recognise some names now, which is always good.
And in preperations for Pokemon mafia (which will be awesome) I've started a new game of Ruby and watching more pokemon episodes in the background. 230 down, just another 300 or so to go! :D
I echo these sentiments. Cant really understand the point of signing up and not posting. Especially if you are town. Hopefully seeing that you will be lynched will discourage this play style from here on in.
Derek B
06-07-2009, 06:41 AM
I'd just like to say now...
The next two weeks are gonna be pretty busy for me. I've got a fairly active work schedule to cover my basic hours while I take the weekends to go to my sister's wedding ceremony one weekend and my mother's 50th birthday the next weekend. Assuming I'm still alive (can't see why I wouldn't be) then I'd probably be an ideal target for our jailers to look at. :)
ya_its_me
06-07-2009, 08:18 AM
I don't know if Zero9Teen is out of the woods yet in my opinion, I think there's plenty enough obscure roles for people to just claim, wasn't there like a different obscure character for every episode?
cappyboy
06-07-2009, 08:24 AM
OK, if Marge is in, there's no good reason why Melissa wouldn't. At least that's my opinion.
Sounds reasonable to me as well. Shame to lose a townie. But since it essentially fixes the time frame to early Rangers only, it does serve well as far as judging future claims go. Combined with the nature of the player, I call that an acceptable sacrifice.
moon_lit_tears
06-07-2009, 08:58 AM
I swear to God I'm gonna pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans.
Well SHENANIGANS
Seriously, why would scum try to delay King's vote.
I think we have a no voter.
Blue Obsessed Nerdy Chick...anyone got a clue what she would do?
I have no clue, but I hope it was not a protector or watcher. I'de think an obsessed chick maybe watches people?
Sorry I wasn't around yesterday. Causins birthday party she turned 1.
ya_its_me
06-07-2009, 09:15 AM
*snaps fingers*
I think I may've known what Marge was, she once went out on a date with Billy (Blue Ranger.) So maybe it's a role like Wendy in SP, she has to look for Billy each night and then possibly become masons.
*snaps fingers*
I think I may've known what Marge was, she once went out on a date with Billy (Blue Ranger.) So maybe it's a role like Wendy in SP, she has to look for Billy each night and then possibly become masons.
I'd doubt it, purely because I expect Billy would mason up with the other Power Rangers, if he hasn't already. I guess a character having 2 potential groups isn't totally out of the question, but it strikes me as a long shot.
I'd have guessed Watcher.
Arrows
06-07-2009, 12:14 PM
treton came to me last night and asked if I could find a replacement for him. So, thanks to our alternates list, we have one.:D
d_w_w will be replacing treton as of now.
The one between the pirate and the knight was insane! When he dropped the armored foe, and opened his visor, while holding a flintlock?
That show pumped all kinds of testosterone into me. Gave me an awesome idea for a full out game, too. Another of those wild it'd never work ideas. I'm scheming as we speak. lol
Serious! That show makes me randy. I watched the Yakuza vs. Mafia. Totally unexpected win. If you want second hands on the game, let me know.
lprock
06-07-2009, 02:35 PM
treton came to me last night and asked if I could find a replacement for him. So, thanks to our alternates list, we have one.:D
d_w_w will be replacing treton as of now.
Baw gawd King.
Prophet
06-07-2009, 02:40 PM
Serious! That show makes me randy. I watched the Yakuza vs. Mafia. Totally unexpected win. If you want second hands on the game, let me know.
I got most of them right, thought for sure that the viking would beat the samurai, and was torn on the Yakuza/Mafia one, just because of the ice pick. But watching that dude crack a pig ... awesome!
You got it. Ironically, it was the Yakuza vs. Mafia show that sparked the thought. :p
praguepride
06-07-2009, 03:57 PM
So I come back from my trip and find out something horrible
YOU DIDN'T LYNCH SELF?
Seriously, WTF?
Honestly, I think the "3 wardens" thing hindered your case more than helped it. Either that or they just like me :D
I know you're convinced I'm scum, and I find that adorable, but to everyone else I'm a person of interest, nothing more. Hopefully, through people's actions in this night phase, my innocence will be proven and we can be friends.
C'mon. How 'bout a hug?
lprock
06-07-2009, 04:04 PM
They just don't listen to me, I'm sorry sir. I failed.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 04:12 PM
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Come on guys, let's get this one first!"
"Right behind ya!"
They ran towards where they saw their target, not noticing the huge shadow bearing down on them. Chunks of the large building fell away at the might of every foot step, finally causing them to turn and see what the disturbance was.
Their eyes moved up. Up. Up. WAY up. Past their target in it's pocket. On up.
"That's... gotta be worse than giant monsters."
THIS WAS THE WARDENS! Sheesh. A team of wardens getting involved with someone.
Although meta-game I must applaud Arrows & Bluestar for doing the "less is more" as this will make scum hunting much more difficult, but come on people.
Zero19 wasn't roleblocked, a principal in no way, shape, or form showed up in the write ups...
and you went ahead with a lynch on an AFK townie.
A lynch, which I might add, Self was proclaiming a desire for before the bandwagon started rolling. A desire born out of the fact that he knows who's scum and who isn't.
Considering how he barely squeaked by D1 I'm surprised there wasn't any pressure on him. Especially given that there is no proof in the write ups that he is who he says he is.
If he acts scummy, has a probable scummy role.... the he's scum :D
THIS WAS THE WARDENS! Sheesh. A team of wardens getting involved with someone.
Although meta-game I must applaud Arrows & Bluestar for doing the "less is more" as this will make scum hunting much more difficult, but come on people.
Zero19 wasn't roleblocked, a principal in no way, shape, or form showed up in the write ups...
and you went ahead with a lynch on an AFK townie.
A lynch, which I might add, Self was proclaiming a desire for before the bandwagon started rolling. A desire born out of the fact that he knows who's scum and who isn't.
Considering how he barely squeaked by D1 I'm surprised there wasn't any pressure on him. Especially given that there is no proof in the write ups that he is who he says he is.
If he acts scummy, has a probable scummy role.... the he's scum :D
/ruffles hair
Save it for tomorrow, buddy.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 04:14 PM
/ruffles hair
Save it for tomorrow, buddy.
I do have to give you credit. I outed you Day 1 and it won't be until D3 that I get you lynched.
Good job, scum :D
trypio
06-07-2009, 04:26 PM
Just catched up. Had a busy weekend. About to send in my night kill now.
/just kidding :p
**Fades out**
**Video of Saber-Toothed Tiger Zord running starts w/ theme**
**Kids everywhere are pissed when they realize this is one of those "learny" episodes where the Rangers don't even use their Zords**
**Screw the Power Blaster**
Was I the only one that prefered the rangers fighting on their feet over fighting with the zords? :p I prefered funky kicks and punches over a big slow iron thing fighting a big beast.
Ah the 3CPO of PR, you got to love him.
C3PO, not 3CPO :cool:
Jaded
06-07-2009, 04:29 PM
Hey, just realised it's night-phase!
Bring on the diary pimpage. :)
SWF:Showcasing Wrestling's Future (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=645155&postcount=20)
bak42
06-07-2009, 06:13 PM
Was I the only one that prefered the rangers fighting on their feet over fighting with the zords? :p I prefered funky kicks and punches over a big slow iron thing fighting a big beast.
I'll admit, those episodes did provide a refreshing change of pace from the standard formula of, fight monster until it's on it's last legs, Rita/Zedd/both cast spell making the monster huge, battle using zords until monster is destroyed.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 06:17 PM
I'll admit, those episodes did provide a refreshing change of pace from the standard formula of, fight monster until it's on it's last legs, Rita/Zedd/both cast spell making the monster huge, battle using zords until monster is destroyed.
It always made me wonder why they didn't just call the zoids first, squash the monster while the monster was small and actually save the local town from having two titans throwing each other around.
masterded
06-07-2009, 06:21 PM
You know what the greatest lesson Power Rangers ever taught a kid was? In a fight the nuts are fair game.
Though it still seems kind of weird to have a glass box around an emergence button just to make the robots knee a monster in the nuts.
bak42
06-07-2009, 06:21 PM
It always made me wonder why they didn't just call the zoids first, squash the monster while the monster was small and actually save the local town from having two titans throwing each other around.
Because that would make sense. And it's zords, not zoids.
bak42
06-07-2009, 06:24 PM
Another thing, how the hell did Rita get her staff back after she throws it down to earth to make her monsters grow?
masterded
06-07-2009, 06:25 PM
Another thing, how the hell did Rita get her staff back after she throws it down to earth to make her monsters grow?
I am going to go with magic.
Prophet
06-07-2009, 06:31 PM
Another thing, how the hell did Rita get her staff back after she throws it down to earth to make her monsters grow?
Boomarod?
Actarus
06-07-2009, 06:33 PM
Another thing, how the hell did Rita get her staff back after she throws it down to earth to make her monsters grow?
I just assumed she had a near infinite supply.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Sign up for the game at my mafia site! (http://mjdmafia.proboards.com/index.cgi)
I still need a decent number of people.
Also, PP, if Self isn't scum, and we lynch him, we will probably lynch you on principal. Constantly badgering a player that turns up townie should be punished in order to discourage such behavior in the future. It really sucks for the person on the other end most of the time.
Destiny
06-07-2009, 06:38 PM
Sign up for the game at my mafia site! (http://mjdmafia.proboards.com/index.cgi)
I still need a decent number of people.
Also, PP, if Self isn't scum, and we lynch him, we will probably lynch you on principal. Constantly badgering a player that turns up townie should be punished in order to discourage such behavior in the future. It really sucks for the person on the other end most of the time.
I agree with these sentiments. Part of me thinks praguepride wins if Self is lynched.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 06:46 PM
If we lynch Self and he's townie, I'll spill role, powers, everything.
Town can decide what they will. And we've already established that I don't care about him being a principal.
I care that he's scum :D
Destiny
06-07-2009, 06:49 PM
If we lynch Self and he's townie, I'll spill role, powers, everything.
Town can decide what they will. And we've already established that I don't care about him being a principal.
I care that he's scum :D
You certainly do seem very adament that he's scum. I think this is the first time you've even acknowledged the possibility that he may not be.
bak42
06-07-2009, 06:49 PM
I agree with these sentiments.
As do I, let's face it, we've got two characters who appeared in only a single episode here, then there should be plenty of room for the school principal who appeared in several episodes. Heck that teacher, I'm drawing a complete blank on her name, is probably in the game.
Astil
06-07-2009, 06:53 PM
She walks down to Earth, defeated and dejected to retrieve her rod.
bak42
06-07-2009, 06:58 PM
She walks down to Earth, defeated and dejected to retrieve her rod.
If that's the case, why didn't the rangers just confiscate the rod thereby preventing her from making any more of her monsters grow?
Astil
06-07-2009, 07:01 PM
If that's the case, why didn't the rangers just confiscate the rod thereby preventing her from making any more of her monsters grow?
They're teenagers with attitude, not teenagers with intelligence.
masterded
06-07-2009, 07:02 PM
If that's the case, why didn't the rangers just confiscate the rod thereby preventing her from making any more of her monsters grow?
Nothing better to get school canceled or delayed then a giant monster attacking the city?
praguepride
06-07-2009, 07:06 PM
They are very honorable, they wouldn't stoop so low as to steal Rita's magic rod.
Destiny
06-07-2009, 07:07 PM
They are very honorable, they wouldn't stoop so low as to steal Rita's magic rod.
I think, despite the use of violence, the Power Rangers were quite good role models.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 07:07 PM
You certainly do seem very adament that he's scum. I think this is the first time you've even acknowledged the possibility that he may not be.
Nah, I've said it many times before that it's possible, but considering how scummy he's acted, I don't think there are really any other valid leads.
I mean, last phase you guys resorted to lynching an AFK player...that's gotta mean that there aren't a lot of leads at the moment, right?
Astil
06-07-2009, 07:08 PM
Nothing better to get school canceled or delayed then a giant monster attacking the city?
If there's a giant monster, I'll just find the "5 minutes to end of episode" button.
Astil
06-07-2009, 07:08 PM
They are very honorable, they wouldn't stoop so low as to steal Rita's magic rod.
is equal to
They're teenagers with attitude, not teenagers with intelligence.
Destiny
06-07-2009, 07:09 PM
Nah, I've said it many times before that it's possible, but considering how scummy he's acted, I don't think there are really any other valid leads.
I mean, last phase you guys resorted to lynching an AFK player...that's gotta mean that there aren't a lot of leads at the moment, right?
I'm not saying I wouldn't have added my vote if I had been around, but I missed last day phase. Not everybody voted for him.
bak42
06-07-2009, 07:10 PM
They're teenagers with attitude, not teenagers with intelligence.You'd think that Billy or Zordon would be able to come up with that idea.
Nothing better to get school canceled or delayed then a giant monster attacking the city?
Strangely enough, all that destruction done to the city and the school never even gets touched.
masterded
06-07-2009, 07:12 PM
This game is making me think of my childhood and the movies and TV shows I remember watching and loving back then. Is it messed up that list includes Deliverance, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and so on.
Prophet
06-07-2009, 07:13 PM
This game is making me think of my childhood and the movies and TV shows I remember watching and loving back then. Is it messed up that list includes Deliverance, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and so on.
I once went from watching Thundercats to Transformers to It before dinner. Think I was 8. lol
Destiny
06-07-2009, 07:15 PM
This game is making me think of my childhood and the movies and TV shows I remember watching and loving back then. Is it messed up that list includes Deliverance, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and so on.
Platoon is a great film. If I remember correctly that has John C. Ginley in it, Dr. Cox from Scrubs.
Gabbo
06-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Meh some of what I said makes no sense/more sense/obvious with the lynch result on UFC and whatnot now but I've spent along time on this MQM so its being posted. :D
No no, I meant. I asked ahead because I thought I could cheat the system by doing dead rangers, but they've got to be alive and kicking.
So if 7 die before you work them out you can't win?
Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm thinking Adam, Aisha, & Rocky are around, but not rangers at th emoment. If Jason the original red ranger bites the big one, maybe Rocky assumes that mantle and becomes the new red ranger? Theory, nothing more, nothing less.
/nod. My thinking too, otherwise with 5/6 rangers its very easy to lose 3 early on and then B+S can't win. This way is more interesting...
If it was a one off thing, it'd be one thing. If he was simply quiet, like some others, it'd be one thing. But he signs up for games, drops in once every 9 days, drops a vote on whatever bandwagon is rolling at the time, even if it's been halted, and disappears. It gets frustrating after awhile.
/nod. There's alot who play that way too. However we need to be careful after the mislynch on UFC (who, in fairness, deserved it).
I, for once, am subscribing to MNN's "risk vs. reward" philosophy. If he's lying, he's scum. If he's not, what exactly are we losing?
Change Vote: Zero9Teen
A voter? Surely someone can find something out about him at night before we lynch? He's online and reading so at the very least he'll be a contributing member of the town.
*...*
/I can read
Then surely you can type? Meh as I've said this takes place within a narrative not a internet cafe.
So there are up to 10 potential rangers, but probably not all at once. Rocky/Adam/Aisha/Kat, if they are in the game, are possibly backups.
This game is MMPR, she was never a ranger in MMPR. I wouldn't think she was in the game.
Townie role from marvel Mafia, purposefully designed to be lynch bait
Exactly.
2 doesn't really fit as Mystique was a generally scummy character with a town role. Melissa is simply unlikely to a very high degree.
I just don't know if there's room for her in this game.
Try and name, uhhhh, what? 25? Very well established townies names from MMPR. Can't do it. Hell try and name 15... She did have a major role in an entire episode. I think I'm ready to give 019 the benefit of the doubt.
Change Vote: UFC-King
Not that he'll read this, but...
THAT'S for telling everyone in Punk Mafia that you were recruited into scumdom, preventing our imminent victory, and leading to the death of The Ramones!
Amazing. It was my first game on GDS, and I was expecting such a high standard all round. I questioned him, called him scum and then watched him deny it whilst posting his scummy role title. XD
I don't know if Zero9Teen is out of the woods yet in my opinion, I think there's plenty enough obscure roles for people to just claim, wasn't there like a different obscure character for every episode?
Pushing hard.
So I come back from my trip and find out something horrible
YOU DIDN'T LYNCH SELF?
Seriously, WTF?
I'm dreading the catch up reading on day 3 all ready.
If we lynch Self and he's townie, I'll spill role, powers, everything.
Town can decide what they will. And we've already established that I don't care about him being a principal.
I care that he's scum :D
Give us a name and I'm sure it will go through, Providing nothing happens at night to confirm Selffferz
019, what happens if you break the restriction? Is your passive ability compromised?
Self, which part of Wales are you from?
Gabbo
06-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Platoon is a great film. If I remember correctly that has John C. Ginley in it, Dr. Cox from Scrubs.
Tru dat bro.
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 07:37 PM
019, what happens if you break the restriction? Is your passive ability compromised?
*shrug whilst shaking head*
Gabbo
06-07-2009, 07:38 PM
As always, you've been very helpful.
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 07:40 PM
As always, you've been very helpful.
*...*
/:(
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 07:43 PM
Try and name, uhhhh, what? 25? Very well established townies names from MMPR. Can't do it. Hell try and name 15... She did have a major role in an entire episode. I think I'm ready to give 019 the benefit of the doubt.
Jason
Billy
Zack
Trini
Kimberly
Tommy
Rocky
Adam
Aisha
Kat
Bulk
Skull
Ernie
Mr. Kaplan
Ms. Appleby
Alpha
Ninjor
Dulcea
Aurico
Delphine
Tideus
Cestro
Corcus
Lt. Stone
Masked Rider
Those are 25 characters I think are more likely that Melissa. Regardless, Melissa doesn't seem as unlikely now that Marge has come up.
Destiny
06-07-2009, 07:43 PM
*...*
/:(
I suppose it's not your fault if you haven't been given any extra information. It would be interesting to know of any repercussions of a failure to obey your restrictions though.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 07:48 PM
Give us a name and I'm sure it will go through, Providing nothing happens at night to confirm Selffferz
I'm weary of doing this because part of me thinks it won't matter. The fact that we had 3/4 of a lynch D1, and then with nothing to prove he is whom he says he was, someone else got lynched D2.
*shrug*
praguepride
06-07-2009, 07:49 PM
I suppose it's not your fault if you haven't been given any extra information. It would be interesting to know of any repercussions of a failure to obey your restrictions though.
modkill prolly
Destiny
06-07-2009, 07:49 PM
I'm weary of doing this because part of me thinks it won't matter. The fact that we had 3/4 of a lynch D1, and then with nothing to prove he is whom he says he was, someone else got lynched D2.
*shrug*
We'll see if the night phase brings us any more leads. I wouldn't recommend you to claim during the dark hours.
praguepride
06-07-2009, 07:55 PM
We'll see if the night phase brings us any more leads. I wouldn't recommend you to claim during the dark hours.
Exactly. However, given the wealth of info in the N1, I doubt we'll get much to conclude anything, really.
We'll just have to go with our intuition on this one.
No FF easy mode :D
Destiny
06-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Exactly. However, given the wealth of info in the N1, I doubt we'll get much to conclude anything, really.
We'll just have to go with our intuition on this one.
No FF easy mode :D
Final Fantasy wasn't that easy, I for one believed derek's lies up until the end. Hopefully investigators may have struck gold tonight aswell.
Astil
06-07-2009, 08:09 PM
Jason
Billy
Zack
Trini
Kimberly
Tommy
Rocky
Adam
Aisha
Kat
Bulk
Skull
Ernie
Mr. Kaplan
Ms. Appleby
Alpha
Ninjor
Dulcea
Aurico
Delphine
Tideus
Cestro
Corcus
Lt. Stone
Masked Rider
Those are 25 characters I think are more likely that Melissa. Regardless, Melissa doesn't seem as unlikely now that Marge has come up.
You missed Zordan
Destiny
06-07-2009, 08:17 PM
You missed Zordan
That's a little picky. I'm sure mjdgoldeneye did well enough to come up with twenty-five characters.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 08:18 PM
You missed Zordan
Oh, yea, indeed... I thought of him but didn't type it...
Take of Masked Rider then. He was a random character that turned into a spin-off show.
Also, I changed the theme for the game on the other site to House, M.D.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 08:19 PM
That's a little picky. I'm sure mjdgoldeneye did well enough to come up with twenty-five characters.
I should have put Zordan. He's basically God in the Power Rangers universe!
I was going to list him before Alpha, but never actually typed his name... Ha ha...
Destiny
06-07-2009, 08:19 PM
Oh, yea, indeed... I thought of him but didn't type it...
Take of Masked Rider then. He was a random character that turned into a spin-off show.
Also, I changed the theme for the game on the other site to House, M.D.
I trust you've seen my sign-up by now. By this time nexy week hopefully we'll be able to begin the game.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 08:20 PM
I trust you've seen my sign-up by now. By this time nexy week hopefully we'll be able to begin the game.
You're signed up.
The game should start soon after we get enough people. 12-15 is ideal.
Gabbo
06-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Jason
Billy
Zack
Trini
Kimberly
Tommy
Rocky
Adam
Aisha
Kat
Bulk
Skull
Ernie
Mr. Kaplan
Ms. Appleby
Alpha
Ninjor
Dulcea
Aurico
Delphine
Tideus
Cestro
Corcus
Lt. Stone
Masked Rider
Those are 25 characters I think are more likely that Melissa. Regardless, Melissa doesn't seem as unlikely now that Marge has come up.
Despite 7/8 of those names not being directly from MMPR, taken from series' after or the film, point taken.
modkill prolly
Can't see it being modkill, it's usually just a role transformation or further restriction or whatever. I doubt even Arrows knows at this point.
Gabbo
06-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Despite 7/8 of those names not being directly from MMPR, taken from series' after or the film, point taken.
To add to that, a balanced game is about roles not characters and having something like 15 rangers in the game kinda limits what you can do with a role. Stuff like the Melissa role is different and more interesting.
Maybe that's just my inner mod speaking. We'll see what the night brings.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Despite 7/8 of those names not being directly from MMPR, taken from series' after or the film, point taken.
7/8ths of those names is about equal to 22. Seeing as there's 25 names, I don't see how that can be possible. Random and inaccurate fractions don't tend to go over well. :p
Also, the movie should be fair game as it's dealing directly with the MMPR universe. It isn't considered canon, but it's the highest budget piece of work relevant to the series.
Also, the alien rangers where technically part of season 3. They were even called the Might Morphin' Alien Rangers.
Leaving out the alien rangers and the one movie character, you still have 20 names.
Jason
Billy
Zack
Trini
Kimberly
Tommy
Rocky
Adam
Aisha
Kat
Bulk
Skull
Ernie
Mr. Kaplan
Ms. Appleby
Alpha
Ninjor
Lt. Stone
Zordan
Masked Rider
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 08:32 PM
And, let me note, I doubt any of the primary rangers were left out (Jason, Billy, Zack, Trini, Kimberly, Tommy, Rocky, Adam, Aisha, Kat).
A little birdie told me that at least 1 ranger doesn't start out morphed, too.
Of the remaining names, there's less than 5 that I'd not expect in the game.
Astil
06-07-2009, 08:34 PM
7/8ths of those names is about equal to 22. Seeing as there's 25 names, I don't see how that can be possible. Random and inaccurate fractions don't tend to go over well. :p
Also, the movie should be fair game as it's dealing directly with the MMPR universe. It isn't considered canon, but it's the highest budget piece of work relevant to the series.
Also, the alien rangers where technically part of season 3. They were even called the Might Morphin' Alien Rangers.
Leaving out the alien rangers and the one movie character, you still have 20 names.
Jason
Billy
Zack
Trini
Kimberly
Tommy
Rocky
Adam
Aisha
Kat
Bulk
Skull
Ernie
Mr. Kaplan
Ms. Appleby
Alpha
Ninjor
Lt. Stone
Zordan
Masked Rider
MOTHA F'N ZORDON!
Floating head.
Tube.
All that jazz :P
Astil
06-07-2009, 08:34 PM
MOTHA F'N ZORDON!
Floating head.
Tube.
All that jazz :P
*reads again*
*smacks head*
Coulda had a V8
Gabbo
06-07-2009, 08:36 PM
7 or 8**
But yeah...
Astil
06-07-2009, 08:36 PM
And, let me note, I doubt any of the primary rangers were left out (Jason, Billy, Zack, Trini, Kimberly, Tommy, Rocky, Adam, Aisha, Kat).
A little birdie told me that at least 1 ranger doesn't start out morphed, too.
Of the remaining names, there's less than 5 that I'd not expect in the game.
Was that birdie a crow?
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Was that birdie a crow?
No. I think it was just trying to manipulate its claiming restriction.
Astil
06-07-2009, 08:54 PM
No. I think it was just trying to manipulate its claiming restriction.
Oh, I see.
Well then
*kicks a rock*
d_w_w
06-07-2009, 09:24 PM
treton came to me last night and asked if I could find a replacement for him. So, thanks to our alternates list, we have one.:D
d_w_w will be replacing treton as of now.
Howdy.
Now, to catch up and read the thread.
masterded
06-07-2009, 09:26 PM
Howdy.
Now, to catch up and read the thread.
Quick lets add another 41 pages before he can catch up.
Prophet
06-07-2009, 09:28 PM
Quick lets add another 41 pages before he can catch up.
Oh, hey ... did ya see that thing, where that dude says that stuff?
(Should take 38 pages just to sort that sentence out. lol)
Arrows
06-07-2009, 09:32 PM
Imarevenant will be replacing Shigakai as of now, since Shigakai has PMed me asking me to do so.
Arrows
06-07-2009, 09:35 PM
It is now Night Phase Two. You have until 2:00 AM EDT, 7:00 AM GMT Monday June 8th to get your night actions sent in to BlueStar and Arrows.
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Why the is the deadline 2 AM on a Monday morning?
Even on the west coast that's still 11 PM...
I'd say adding or subtracting hours to make it reasonable for most people to actually be on at the posting of the write-up would be wise in he future.
Otherwise, until we lynch someone, the deadline will stay there... :eek:
Arrows
06-07-2009, 09:41 PM
Why the is the deadline 2 AM on a Monday morning?
Even on the west coast that's still 11 PM...
I'd say adding or subtracting hours to make it reasonable for most people to actually be on at the posting of the write-up would be wise in he future.
Otherwise, until we lynch someone, the deadline will stay there... :eek:
That's when all you bums rallied around to lynch.:p
mjdgoldeneye
06-07-2009, 09:43 PM
That's when all you bums rallied around to lynch.:p
On a weekend...!
In general, I personally wouldn't mind (in the future) if a few hours were shaved off to make the deadline midnight or added to make it morning just for the sake of getting the most out of the day phase and being able to get a jump on stuff.
masterded
06-07-2009, 09:47 PM
*Is happy knowing he should be on then.
Zero9teen
06-07-2009, 09:51 PM
On a weekend...!
In general, I personally wouldn't mind (in the future) if a few hours were shaved off to make the deadline midnight or added to make it morning just for the sake of getting the most out of the day phase and being able to get a jump on stuff.
/nod
Astil
06-07-2009, 10:22 PM
*Is happy knowing he should be on then.
/nod
Although I'll be distracted by Sims 3
masterded
06-07-2009, 10:35 PM
/nod
Although I'll be distracted by Sims 3
Me too.
Tha Black Phenom
06-07-2009, 11:46 PM
Night phase. Chilly.
You certainly do seem very adament that he's scum. I think this is the first time you've even acknowledged the possibility that he may not be.
I believe he's mentioned around D1 that if Self is town, he'll spill everything about himself.
Nah, I've said it many times before that it's possible, but considering how scummy he's acted, I don't think there are really any other valid leads.
I mean, last phase you guys resorted to lynching an AFK player...that's gotta mean that there aren't a lot of leads at the moment, right?
At the same time, the Self lead has lost some steam. There's one man behind the megaphone and it doesn't look like many seem to be onboard with it all. For the right or wrong reasons, we'll see. But in the meantime, we had a lead throughout. 019.
How about you suggest another deal of yours? :p
Astil
06-08-2009, 12:31 AM
Holy shiz, just watched NBA Fast Break (a postgame type show) and who was the host? Jonathan Coachman!
Prophet
06-08-2009, 12:38 AM
Holy shiz, just watched NBA Fast Break (a postgame type show) and who was the host? Jonathan Coachman!
He did Sportscenter this morning too. Kid's been busy. :p
Arrows
06-08-2009, 01:04 AM
Night phase is over. Write up coming shortly.
Astil
06-08-2009, 01:05 AM
He did Sportscenter this morning too. Kid's been busy. :p
Well I suppose the 20 minute trip from Fairfield to Bristol makes it a no brainer, especially since he balled in college.
BlueStar
06-08-2009, 01:07 AM
Election day means a 16h working day. I know that now...I'm dead. Again. But I'll be back to full time modding duties now...
Arrows
06-08-2009, 01:11 AM
Night Two
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
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The attacker found the target and watched, waiting patiently for the right time to strike. This would certainly be a fun one.
The attacker leapt into action at just the right moment, the first attack deflected. A second attack found itself deflected as well. The target began to fight back, taking charge of the fight.
Unable to gain much ground on the attacker, the momentum slowly began to shift back. The victim went to the ground, backing up as fast as humanly possible in attempt to escape the incoming attack.
Blocked.
The attacker groaned at the sight of another willing to help out the target and turned, casually walking away from the battle.
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She watched her target, studying everything they did. This wasn't who she meant to be checking out, but it didn't matter. Anyone was better than no one. Just as she turned to leave, she saw someone standing in the distance and smiled, slowly making her way that way.
As she approached, she noticed something was different. This wasn't who she thought it was. A quick 180, and she started to run in the other direction, completely unsuspecting of the shot to the back of the head she would suffer.
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The moron watched as his target followed someone else. He kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was keeping their distance and watching him as well. His target seemed graceful.
Shame he wasn't. He might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him.
He fell to the floor, holding the back of his head just as his vision faded.
Taking note of what he'd just seen, he turned to walk away, coming to an almost immediate stop. Before he could even react he'd felt the swift attack of the sword and fallen to the ground. One more vicious swipe and the attacker walked away.
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bak42 is dead. He was Katherine Hillard, Angel Grove Aligned New Girl In Town.
Astil is dead. He was Zack Taylor, Power Rangers Aligned Black Ranger.
Actarus has been injured. He will be unable to post during Day Phase 3.
IT IS NOW DAY THREE. WITH 36 PLAYERS ALIVE, IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF 19 TO LYNCH.
YOUR DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10TH, 2009 AT 2:00 AM EDT, 7:00 AM GMT. IF MAJORITY IS NOT REACHED BY THIS TIME, A NO LYNCH SHALL BE DECLARED.
Arrows
06-08-2009, 01:23 AM
All PMs should be out. If you think you should've gotten one, send me a PM.
I stayed up until 2 for the write-up. :( The most logical thing I could deduct is that there's plausibly a bus driver. I need to reread with fresh eyes. More from work in the Am.
Astil
06-08-2009, 01:30 AM
Ugh, an early exit.
Have fun everyone, I'm off to code.
Arrows
06-08-2009, 01:42 AM
Election day means a 16h working day. I know that now...I'm dead. Again. But I'll be back to full time modding duties now...
Welcome back buddy!:D
Last night I chose to roleblock MidnightNick. Sorry if you had things you needed to do, but I needed to block someone with a Night action, and as out-of-character as it is, I trust you. Did you get a PM?
Prophet
06-08-2009, 02:13 AM
Last night I chose to roleblock MidnightNick. Sorry if you had things you needed to do, but I needed to block someone with a Night action, and as out-of-character as it is, I trust you. Did you get a PM?
Does this mean ...
Night Two
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
... is you?
Could be, although I was kinda hoping for a TON of people investigating/watching me, and that write-up doesn't indicate that.
Seems to fit. "Huge difference" is a bit ominous though.
Can't sleep. Very annoying. I'm very interested to hear from MNN if he was actually roleblocked.
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
I'm tempted to say that this is me blocking MNN. I'm not sure what the "huge difference" would mean though.
The attacker found the target and watched, waiting patiently for the right time to strike. This would certainly be a fun one.
The attacker leapt into action at just the right moment, the first attack deflected. A second attack found itself deflected as well. The target began to fight back, taking charge of the fight.
Unable to gain much ground on the attacker, the momentum slowly began to shift back. The victim went to the ground, backing up as fast as humanly possible in attempt to escape the incoming attack.
Blocked.
The attacker groaned at the sight of another willing to help out the target and turned, casually walking away from the battle.
My guess? Someone attacks the Power Ranger (hence the fight scene) but the Ranger has a Protector.
She watched her target, studying everything they did. This wasn't who she meant to be checking out, but it didn't matter. Anyone was better than no one. Just as she turned to leave, she saw someone standing in the distance and smiled, slowly making her way that way.
As she approached, she noticed something was different. This wasn't who she thought it was. A quick 180, and she started to run in the other direction, completely unsuspecting of the shot to the back of the head she would suffer.
bak42 gets shot. OMG it's Kat (I like just wiki'd this as I didn't recognise the name) I'd say this all but confirms the theory that Adam, Rocky & Aisha aren't full blown-Rangers yet (well, maybe Adam). She thought she recognised the killer... I'd be tempted to say it was an evil Ranger, but why would she recognise the Rangers at this juncture?
The moron watched as his target followed someone else. He kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was keeping their distance and watching him as well. His target seemed graceful.
Shame he wasn't. He might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him.
He fell to the floor, holding the back of his head just as his vision faded.
Taking note of what he'd just seen, he turned to walk away, coming to an almost immediate stop. Before he could even react he'd felt the swift attack of the sword and fallen to the ground. One more vicious swipe and the attacker walked away.
"Swordsman" attacks "Moron" who watches "Actarus" follow "Someone Else". A "Stun-F***er" takes out Actarus.
Wait... does this imply Zack is a moron?
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bak42 is dead. He was Katherine Hillard, Angel Grove Aligned New Girl In Town.
No!
Astil is dead. He was Zack Taylor, Power Rangers Aligned Black Ranger.
NOOOOO!
Derek B
06-08-2009, 04:53 AM
I'm up to date... just processing the information given overnight before I head to work. Might have something to share when I get back, but don't let that stop anyone else from doing useful things in my absence. :)
praguepride
06-08-2009, 05:31 AM
Alright, shall we get things underway?
Vote: Self
How do I know there's 3 wardens?
I'm one of them and it flat out states that my two buddies do the same thing.
So, let's get this wagon rolling.
I thought as much. I'm curious, do you work as a team to "warden up" one target, or do you go your separate ways? The write-up made it sound like the former. You don't need to answer, it's probably better if you don't. I'm just curious.
I'm sure once MidnightNick shows up, and reveals whether he got roleblocked or not, the others will either join you or, more likely, not.
Also, your Night 1 target was "in the pocket" of something "worse than a giant monster". What do you think that means?
Also, seeing as I'm open to all questioning.
Self, which part of Wales are you from?
The South, about an hour outside Swansea.
moon_lit_tears
06-08-2009, 06:50 AM
Night Two
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
I'm tempted to say that this is me blocking MNN. I'm not sure what the "huge difference" would mean though.
See this doesn't add up for me.
That seems like maybe someone being maybe recruited?
I am not sure it sounds like a protection to me.
But I am up for opinions.
Will be at my grandmothers all day will check in about 3 estish
trypio
06-08-2009, 07:16 AM
Ouch. We lost a ranger and a potential ranger. :(
See this doesn't add up for me.
That seems like maybe someone being maybe recruited?
I am not sure it sounds like a protection to me.
Certainly a possibility. I can definitely see it as a Recruitment... but I can also read it as a slacker being taken to Detention.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 07:56 AM
Looking at the write up, I notice there are two more kills N 2 than on N1. I think we may have to pursue the possibility that a killer or killers were roleblocked n1.
Glancing back at Night 1...
Wearing quite possibly the worst fake power ranger outfit ever, he'd managed to get plenty of attention. Trying to keep his motorcycle helmet up long enough to see, he didn't expect it to be this difficult to find his target.
Just as he started to close in, he found himself surrounded. This, certainly wasn't what he expected.
They were soon joined by someone else, and the goofily dressed ranger seemed all but doomed until someone leapt in front of him, blocking the shot.
The attacker and protector stared at each other, neither moving, until the attacker simply left.
Here's the "Shot" killer that took out bak42/Kat. He targeted the "Goofily Dressed Fake Ranger" but Glotnot/Putty/Protector was there. So that's one accounted for.
That wouldn't be the end of the fun here tonight though, as yet another made an appearance. (joining Goofy and Protector)
"Stop! I won't let you hurt this one!"
The attacker said nothing.
"What's your problem? Who are you?"
"You don't need to know who I am, yellow ranger. Only that I'm not here for your little buddy there."
Confused, the Yellow Ranger tilted her head to the side. "Then, why are you here?"
"To destroy you."
She made a move for her weapons, underestimating the speed of her opponent. The attacker leapt into the air, coming down with one swift strike to the chest of the target.
As the attacker turned to watch, the yellow ranger's suit seemed to shatter, only to reveal something teleporting away in an orange glow.
"Still no challenge."
And here's the Second Killer, taking out Glotnot/Putty/Protector. Process of elimination says it's the sword one, the write-up doesn't. Could go either way.
Which leaves the injurer. Now I know I put 019 in Detention, and PP and his boys were doing similar (unless the "worse than a giant monster" stopped them) so I guess it's possible that one of them did the deed... maybe.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 08:13 AM
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
"Huge difference" has to be an allusion to one of the kills. Someone 'moved' or blocked a protector I think.
The attacker found the target and watched, waiting patiently for the right time to strike. This would certainly be a fun one.
The attacker leapt into action at just the right moment, the first attack deflected. A second attack found itself deflected as well. The target began to fight back, taking charge of the fight.
Unable to gain much ground on the attacker, the momentum slowly began to shift back. The victim went to the ground, backing up as fast as humanly possible in attempt to escape the incoming attack.
Blocked.
The attacker groaned at the sight of another willing to help out the target and turned, casually walking away from the battle.
This reads to me like the first kill attempt. Looks like a protector stops it though.
She watched her target, studying everything they did. This wasn't who she meant to be checking out, but it didn't matter. Anyone was better than no one. Just as she turned to leave, she saw someone standing in the distance and smiled, slowly making her way that way.
As she approached, she noticed something was different. This wasn't who she thought it was. A quick 180, and she started to run in the other direction, completely unsuspecting of the shot to the back of the head she would suffer.
She must be Katherine/Bak. "Who she emant to be checking out".. allusion to bus driver? Sees someone she thinks is friendly at a distance but closer she becomes scared. Some kind of imposter type. Maybe an evil power ranger? She gets shot in the back of the head. Did they ever use guns on that show?
The moron watched as his target followed someone else. He kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was keeping their distance and watching him as well. His target seemed graceful.
Shame he wasn't. He might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him.
He fell to the floor, holding the back of his head just as his vision faded.
Taking note of what he'd just seen, he turned to walk away, coming to an almost immediate stop. Before he could even react he'd felt the swift attack of the sword and fallen to the ground. One more vicious swipe and the attacker walked away.
This is confusing. Is the moron the black ranger or Actarus's charcater? I wouldn't think a ranger would be a moron, but again, I really don't know much about the show.
lets go through it.
Moron sees target and thinks target is graceful. Sees target get hit from behind (thus not graceful enough)
Target's vision fades (but it doesn't say target is dead)
Moron turns and then gets attacked by sword (sk I reckon). Moron falls. Presumably dead but not certain.
Any way thats how i read it.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 08:16 AM
Glancing back at Night 1...
Here's the "Shot" killer that took out bak42/Kat. He targeted the "Goofily Dressed Fake Ranger" but Glotnot/Putty/Protector was there. So that's one accounted for.
And here's the Second Killer, taking out Glotnot/Putty/Protector. Process of elimination says it's the sword one, the write-up doesn't. Could go either way.
Which leaves the injurer. Now I know I put 019 in Detention, and PP and his boys were doing similar (unless the "worse than a giant monster" stopped them) so I guess it's possible that one of them did the deed... maybe.
"Still no challenge " guy is the sword user. he says the same thing in the n0 write up and uses a sword.
Interesting."
She jerked around. Tired from her battle with the Megazord, she wasn't ready to deal with more. She drew her weapon, shock on her face as she noticed what she was staring at. "But I just..."
"And now, I'm going to destroy you."
Her attacker charged forward, weapon out and ready to strike. Dodging the blow from her weapon, the attacker came to a stop behind her. She fell to the ground, unable to dodge the attack herself.
"I thought you'd be a challenge." Disgusted at the ease of her defeat, the attacker simply walked away.
Gabbo
06-08-2009, 08:20 AM
Hmm, the write-ups are interesting, to say the least.
The South, about an hour outside Swansea.
Same here, although I split my time between Uni in Swansea and home time in the Valleys.
Night Two
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
I'd say this is Self sending MNN to detention. Look at the choice of words, clearly states the target, Skull, was looking for something, we know what MNN is looking for.
As for the huge decision, maybe Skull is a protector and protected someone who got killed last night, because Self detained him. I dunno, wait until MNN gets on.
Besides the feel of the piece is more one person having power over the other, a teacher blocking someones path and telling them to follow him. Recruitment is a more fair 50/50 on both parties type of feel.
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The attacker found the target and watched, waiting patiently for the right time to strike. This would certainly be a fun one.
The attacker leapt into action at just the right moment, the first attack deflected. A second attack found itself deflected as well. The target began to fight back, taking charge of the fight.
Unable to gain much ground on the attacker, the momentum slowly began to shift back. The victim went to the ground, backing up as fast as humanly possible in attempt to escape the incoming attack.
Blocked.
The attacker groaned at the sight of another willing to help out the target and turned, casually walking away from the battle.
My guess? Someone attacks the Power Ranger (hence the fight scene) but the Ranger has a Protector.
I'd say you have them the wrong way around. The first was Actarus being attacked.
The moron watched as his target followed someone else. He kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was keeping their distance and watching him as well. His target seemed graceful.
Shame he wasn't. He might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him.
He fell to the floor, holding the back of his head just as his vision faded.
Taking note of what he'd just seen, he turned to walk away, coming to an almost immediate stop. Before he could even react he'd felt the swift attack of the sword and fallen to the ground. One more vicious swipe and the attacker walked away.
"Swordsman" attacks "Moron" who watches "Actarus" follow "Someone Else". A "Stun-F***er" takes out Actarus.
Wait... does this imply Zack is a moron?
Moron > watching someone >watching someone. Being watched.
3>Moron>1>2
#1 Is Black Ranger, either being watched by Moron and #3 or just Moron.
Hmm, need to ponder this. Since neither parts of the write-up are clear.
Gabbo
06-08-2009, 08:21 AM
Basically Self will be in trouble here if MNN doesn't back him up 100%.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 08:33 AM
Basically Self will be in trouble here if MNN doesn't back him up 100%.
*sigh*
Here's the facts that I see before my limited narrow tunnel-vision.
1) I know I'm a warden
2) I know of two other wardens. Agreed this number seems high, but then a 4th warden comes out?
3) Self's self-defense (eh eh? anybody? no? nevermind) was scummy as hell.
4) No write up has come out and cleared him.
5) Zero19 said that he wasn't informed that he'd been blocked.
Seriously, what more do you want? I'm fine for pausing a bit to think and gather information, but it'd be nice if I could get some feedback from town that we are going to pursue Self this phase so I can stop beating my drum, take the broken record off the player, cut the looping vid etc. etc.
Here's the facts that I see before my limited narrow tunnel-vision.
1) I know I'm a warden
2) I know of two other wardens. Agreed this number seems high, but then a 4th warden comes out?
3) Self's self-defense (eh eh? anybody? no? nevermind) was scummy as hell.
4) No write up has come out and cleared him.
5) Zero19 said that he wasn't informed that he'd been blocked.
Seriously, what more do you want? I'm fine for pausing a bit to think and gather information, but it'd be nice if I could get some feedback from town that we are going to pursue Self this phase so I can stop beating my drum, take the broken record off the player, cut the looping vid etc. etc.
1) I believe you
2) Are they independently Wardens though? From the write-up, you sound like you work as a Team. Which doesn't exactly make you the same as me.
3) Annoying is not = to Scummy :D
4) There's a good chance Night 2 does, and even if it hasn't, not everyone appears in the write-ups. I bet there's a ton of you guys with Night Powers who haven't been in write-ups yet, simply because you weren't caught up in clusters of activity.
5) If you don't have a Night Power, and get Roleblocked, you DON'T get a PM. This is a fact, and according to 019, he doesn't have a Night Power, so he wouldn't get a PM. This is precisely why last night I targetted a guy I'm 87% sure DOES have a Night Power, so he'd get a PM and be able to confirm I do what I say I do.
Wait on MidnightNick. That's all I'm saying.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 08:48 AM
1) I believe you
:rolleyes:
2) Are they independently Wardens though? From the write-up, you sound like you work as a Team. Which doesn't exactly make you the same as me.
I'm not giving scum any info.
3) Annoying is not = to Scummy :D
I would disagree. You lied, you misdirected, you ignored perfectly valid issues for the longest time, and nearly tripped over yourself to make a deal even though it could have potentially hurt the town in the long run.
4) There's a good chance Night 2 does, and even if it hasn't, not everyone appears in the write-ups. I bet there's a ton of you guys with Night Powers who haven't been in write-ups yet, simply because you weren't caught up in clusters of activity.
I don't really care if you're a roleblocker because that can be a scum power just as a townie power.
5) If you don't have a Night Power, and get Roleblocked, you DON'T get a PM. This is a fact, and according to 019, he doesn't have a Night Power, so he wouldn't get a PM. This is precisely why last night I targetted a guy I'm 87% sure DOES have a Night Power, so he'd get a PM and be able to confirm I do what I say I do.
How would you know? How could you possibly know what Zero19 can and can't do, and what the mods do this early in the game? Not to mention that there's a good chance that someone else might have wardened MNN or Zero19 and then this would be bait to try and draw out my warden buddies.
Wait on MidnightNick. That's all I'm saying.
This makes me think of a cult. You don't roleblock, you recruit. Then of course your new cult buddy would come back and say "yeah, He roleblocked me and protected me and everything else he says is correct."
Maybe Zero19 couldn't be recruited because he/she was protected by someone else? Or maybe you can't recruit people who can't hear your :D
If that IS you in the write up, that definitely sounds more like a recruitment then a jail ability.
Anyway, is Self a cult? Eh, maybe. Is Self NOT town-aligned: most definitely.
I would disagree. You lied, you misdirected, you ignored perfectly valid issues for the longest time, and nearly tripped over yourself to make a deal even though it could have potentially hurt the town in the long run.
Except for a cup of tea joke I haven't lied. You keep saying this, but you only THINK I've lied. You have no proof. You just keep saying it in the hopes that people will start believing it.
Oh, and why wouldn't I take deal? I'm a townie. Me staying alive is good for me, and good for the town (as long as people get off my back and stop distracting others from puzzling real stuff out) When you said "I have a deal, roleblock 019" what did you expect me to say? "No. I'm town so I don't have to do what you say" That would be ridiculous. I took the deal because I need to prove my innocence and want you to stop hounding me. I don't see how me accepting your terms is scummy to you, except for the fact that I said it.
I don't really care if you're a roleblocker because that can be a scum power just as a townie power.
True enough. If you have the same power, maybe you're the scum version. Goes both ways, dude.
How would you know? How could you possibly know what Zero19 can and can't do, and what the mods do this early in the game? Not to mention that there's a good chance that someone else might have wardened MNN or Zero19 and then this would be bait to try and draw out my warden buddies.
I never said I know what 019 can do (stop misreading my posts) but... okay. I'm 87% certain that a mod wouldn't waste his time sending a "Roleblocked" PM to a person who doesn't have a Night Role to be blocked.
This makes me think of a cult. You don't roleblock, you recruit.
Clever, but no. I think Nick can communicate with Bulk, so I doubt he's recruitable anyway.
The best way to prove my innocence, after my role is properly revealed, is for someone to investigate me. I have no earthly idea why no one has done this yet. Surely y'all are as bored of the PP vs Self tete-a-tete as I am? Someone out there has the power to clear me. Please do it.
Destiny
06-08-2009, 09:20 AM
Anyway, is Self a cult? Eh, maybe. Is Self NOT town-aligned: most definitely.
I'm personally fairly certain that you're going to continue along these lines until midnightnick can confirm he's been roleblocked, you may not even believe him after that.
Oh, and Anti, you're right. There's another extra attacker in night 2. The one in the paragraph before bak's death. Missed him earlier. It's odd.
2 attacks in Night 1 - Shot Killer is blocked, Sword Challenge Killer takes out Glotnot
4 attacks in Night 2 - Shot Killer kills bak42, Sword Challenge Killer owns Zack, Actarus is cracked o'er the head, and someone fights a Ranger, but is blocked
Those interpretations could be wrong, but yeah. 2 became 4 somehow.
Destiny
06-08-2009, 09:30 AM
Oh, and Anti, you're right. There's another extra attacker in night 2. The one in the paragraph before bak's death. Missed him earlier. It's odd.
2 attacks in Night 1 - Shot Killer is blocked, Sword Challenge Killer takes out Glotnot
4 attacks in Night 2 - Shot Killer kills bak42, Sword Challenge Killer owns Zack, Actarus is cracked o'er the head, and someone fights a Ranger, but is blocked
Those interpretations could be wrong, but yeah. 2 became 4 somehow.
So it is still possible that you did roleblock Zer9Teen and that he's lying about his claim?
So it is still possible that you did roleblock Zer9Teen and that he's lying about his claim?
Anything's possible. I certainly roleblocked him. Whether that act made me some kind of hero, protecting the innocent by locking up a homicidal madman, I don't know. I like the idea though :)
Off to do some things around the house. Back to argue later.
Mr T Jobs To Me
06-08-2009, 09:41 AM
Moron > watching someone >watching someone. Being watched.
3>Moron>1>2
#1 Is Black Ranger, either being watched by Moron and #3 or just Moron.
Hmm, need to ponder this. Since neither parts of the write-up are clear.
I think #3 is attacking #1 here, and Moron just happens to be injured because they were a potential witness.
Also, there did seem to be an extra attacker from night 1. I agree that taking a look at those who were roleblocked N1 could turn something up.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 09:59 AM
Any chance it's a vig who just didn't go out N1?
Anyway, N1 I protected Zero19, didn't get a PM one way or the other about it, though.
As for why, I was hoping that IF Self was actually telling the truth, there would be some kind of interaction between him, me, and Zero19 that would help clear things up. There wasn't.
I especially noticed that IF he did actually target Zero19, he might be the "worse then monster" thing throwing rocks at me.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:02 AM
"It's...a Power Ranger!" The obnoxious moron couldn't believe it. Standing guard in front of the one he'd chosen to target was one of the people he'd been hunting for.
Of course, that was going to stop him from getting much closer, though he did get to see his target showing off his skills on a punching bag. Before turning and leaving, he made note of the child that seemed to be hiding under a table nearby.
Now that I look back at it, THIS could potentially be me protecting Zero19. I don't know, as the punching bag fits but the Power Ranger thing doesn't.
How old was Melissa? Could she be classified as a child? Anyway, if this IS me, then Self didn't target Zero19 like he said he would.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:04 AM
I guess my point is that whichever write up, it's obvious* that Self either didn't do what he said he would or isn't who he says it is.
Sorry it's taken me this long to look through the write ups. Remember, I was gone for most of N1 and all of D2
*obvious to me at least
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:05 AM
Ah fudge it, enough with the mysteries. I'm not a power ranger in MMPR, but in the later series I'm one of them.
I consider myself one of the 2nd stringers :D
SuperOwens
06-08-2009, 10:07 AM
The write ups are being purposely vague. So no idea if that was Self or what he was actually doing but I can definitely see that fitting his role claim. Of course it could also be a recruitment.
I'm hoping we will have some leads today, I know Derek mentioned having something. Dont really want to go through another day of PP accusing Self and Self defending.
Agree with the idea that our role blockers may have done an awesome job night 1. Its going to be hard to disseminate that info though. And claiming is not a good idea.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 10:08 AM
Any chance it's a vig who just didn't go out N1?
Anyway, N1 I protected Zero19, didn't get a PM one way or the other about it, though.
As for why, I was hoping that IF Self was actually telling the truth, there would be some kind of interaction between him, me, and Zero19 that would help clear things up. There wasn't.
I especially noticed that IF he did actually target Zero19, he might be the "worse then monster" thing throwing rocks at me.
Could be a vig. Sword killer and Gun user are accounted for. But in a game with 39 people, having 3 scummy killers isn't out of teh question
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 10:10 AM
Now that I look back at it, THIS could potentially be me protecting Zero19. I don't know, as the punching bag fits but the Power Ranger thing doesn't.
How old was Melissa? Could she be classified as a child? Anyway, if this IS me, then Self didn't target Zero19 like he said he would.
Obnoxious Moron"
There was a moron mentioned night 2 as well.
That could be Actarus as the moron in the n 1 write up
SuperOwens
06-08-2009, 10:12 AM
Any chance it's a vig who just didn't go out N1?
Anyway, N1 I protected Zero19, didn't get a PM one way or the other about it, though.
As for why, I was hoping that IF Self was actually telling the truth, there would be some kind of interaction between him, me, and Zero19 that would help clear things up. There wasn't.
I especially noticed that IF he did actually target Zero19, he might be the "worse then monster" thing throwing rocks at me.
So you targeted 019, then got attacked by the monster? Was your ability successful? Was there confirmation?
Strikes me that its possible 019 is that monster.
foolinc
06-08-2009, 10:16 AM
Hey, would anyone like to help me out here. In a Power Rangers game, what would be the reason behind not being able to "get" to someone you targeted? Unless this is the wording Arrows is using for being roleblocked. And if that is the case, I am changing my question to who the hell roleblocked me. ;)
This is a really awful time for MNN to dawdle. I'm more than willing to believe PP, but I read the first part of the write-up as a bartender as well. I just need something concrete to bring myself to lynch Self.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:17 AM
So you targeted 019, then got attacked by the monster? Was your ability successful? Was there confirmation?
Strikes me that its possible 019 is that monster.
I received NO pm from the mod about this
*cough*arrows*cough*
I wasn't around to complain because I wasn't here, but we're entering the second day phase where I haven't received a results PM....
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:18 AM
This is a really awful time for MNN to dawdle. I'm more than willing to believe PP, but I read the first part of the write-up as a bartender as well. I just need something concrete to bring myself to lynch Self.
What's a bartender?
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:19 AM
Also, sent a PM to Arrows to figure what the heck is going on :D
cappyboy
06-08-2009, 10:23 AM
I'm tempted to say that this is me blocking MNN. I'm not sure what the "huge difference" would mean though.
You know I have a couple ideas where this night phase goes. Problem is they aren't fully formed yet. So I'm not sure how much detail I want to get into about them. The one I hope is true depends on you being right here.
"Swordsman" attacks "Moron" who watches "Actarus" follow "Someone Else". A "Stun-F***er" takes out Actarus.
Wait... does this imply Zack is a moron?
I don't think so. Zack was a bit of a showboat at times. But he was no dummy. In fact, if what I was just saying I hope to be true is, I'm pretty positive I know who Actarus is.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:27 AM
Also, sent a PM to Arrows to figure what the heck is going on :D
Arrows replied, can't say more out of threat of modkill.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 10:33 AM
The best way to prove my innocence, after my role is properly revealed, is for someone to investigate me. I have no earthly idea why no one has done this yet. Surely y'all are as bored of the PP vs Self tete-a-tete as I am? Someone out there has the power to clear me. Please do it.
This line irks me and just makes me chalk another mark on the "Self is scum" post.
He's asking an invesitgator to outhimself to "clear" Self's name. Well, not even counting scum shenanigans (dons appearing as town, reverse-framers masking the guilty (before anyone asks, there are several shapechanging monsters and spells that appear throughout the shows)) then having a scum go down outing a warden and an investigator is starting to get things down in the "fair exchange" column.
If I were in his position, I wouldn't be trying to dig up more info that scum could use, I'd be trying to do my best to help the town as a whole. And this time Self DID post an N2 analysis, although his contributions at this point are questionable. I guess you have to look back at his actual contributions and decide if it's enough to cross the scum/town threshold.
I haven't seen him reveal anything useful so far, except he's really big into trying to oust power rangers (the Zack comment, for example)
Slim Jim
06-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Night Two
One person's decision would prove to make a huge difference on this night.
The target wandered aimlessly, yet still in search of something. Approaching someone, that someone stuck an arm out to block the path.
"Yeah?"
"Come with me."
I can believe this being the principal taking someone to detention, maybe Bulk or Skull since they were always pretty aimless, and were searching for Rangers.
Could also be something altogether more sordid though, so it doesn't do too much to help Self.
The attacker found the target and watched, waiting patiently for the right time to strike. This would certainly be a fun one.
The attacker leapt into action at just the right moment, the first attack deflected. A second attack found itself deflected as well. The target began to fight back, taking charge of the fight.
Unable to gain much ground on the attacker, the momentum slowly began to shift back. The victim went to the ground, backing up as fast as humanly possible in attempt to escape the incoming attack.
Blocked.
The attacker groaned at the sight of another willing to help out the target and turned, casually walking away from the battle.
Looks like a Ranger being attacked, probably by a fake Ranger. The real Ranger is then protected and his attacker is so apathetic about the fight, he just walks off.
She watched her target, studying everything they did. This wasn't who she meant to be checking out, but it didn't matter. Anyone was better than no one. Just as she turned to leave, she saw someone standing in the distance and smiled, slowly making her way that way.
As she approached, she noticed something was different. This wasn't who she thought it was. A quick 180, and she started to run in the other direction, completely unsuspecting of the shot to the back of the head she would suffer.
Suggestions of a bus driver here. It looks like Katherine spots a Ranger... who turns out to be a fake Ranger, that kills her. Would probably mean the early attack by the uncommitted guy wasn't a fake Ranger then.
The moron watched as his target followed someone else. He kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was keeping their distance and watching him as well. His target seemed graceful.
Shame he wasn't. He might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him.
He fell to the floor, holding the back of his head just as his vision faded.
Taking note of what he'd just seen, he turned to walk away, coming to an almost immediate stop. Before he could even react he'd felt the swift attack of the sword and fallen to the ground. One more vicious swipe and the attacker walked away.
This looks to me, working from the top, that the moron Bulk/Skull, I'm assuming Bulk, is watching a graceful target. Obvious options there. He is being watched by someone.
He is then attacked by someone and injured.
The guy watching him is then killed by Goldar. He always had his big ol' sword to hand and since this is the death of a Ranger and it happened before he could react, the attacker has to be someone good and not, for example, a putty.
Sorry I haven't been all that active, not that I usually am early on, but I've been getting a game up and running elsewhere, which has taken a fair bit of my online time in the last few days. Rolling now, so it will take less of my time.
d_w_w
06-08-2009, 10:45 AM
Not as carefully caught up as a I'd like, but I'm suspecting that I never will be :(
Quick lets add another 41 pages before he can catch up.
/cry
Anyhow.
I'm having a bit of pronoun confusion in the last scene. Two people get knocked down/out here though, here's how I see it:
Night Two
The moron watched as his target followed someone else. He kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was keeping their distance and watching him as well. His target seemed graceful.
Shame he wasn't. He might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him.
Actarus fell to the floor, holding the back of his head just as his vision faded.
Taking note of what he'd just seen, Astil turned to walk away, coming to an almost immediate stop. Before Astil could even react Astil felt the swift attack of the sword and fallen to the ground. One more vicious swipe and the attacker walked away.
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The "Shame he wasn't" part is confusing. I believe that is referring to Actarus, but I don't know that that necessarily implies that he's the moron. I think it is this...
Night Two
The moron (Person A) watched as his target (Person B) followed someone else (Person C). He (Person B) kept his distance, simply watching, not knowing that someone was (Person A) keeping their distance and watching him (Person B) as well. His target (Person B or C, leaning toward C...)seemed graceful.
Shame (Person B) he wasn't. He (Person B) might have been able to dodge the attack which came from another behind him (Person A).
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With Actarus being Person B, his target being Person C, and the attacker being A.
I hate being confused :(
d_w_w
06-08-2009, 10:46 AM
This looks to me, working from the top, that the moron Bulk/Skull, I'm assuming Bulk, is watching a graceful target. Obvious options there. He is being watched by someone.
He is then attacked by someone and injured.
The guy watching him is then killed by Goldar. He always had his big ol' sword to hand and since this is the death of a Ranger and it happened before he could react, the attacker has to be someone good and not, for example, a putty.
Sorry I haven't been all that active, not that I usually am early on, but I've been getting a game up and running elsewhere, which has taken a fair bit of my online time in the last few days. Rolling now, so it will take less of my time.
This is also plausible. They would be the most likely morons after all.
d_w_w
06-08-2009, 10:48 AM
Anyhow... I have to actually work now :rolleyes:
Regarding the Self / Praguepride situation. Like I said, I didn't catch up as closely as I'd have liked, but something about Self seems off to me. I'm not sure that I can put my finger on it, but it's at least partially related to the fact that I generally do not trust roleblockers.
I'd like to hear from MNN though. Maybe he can shed some light on that and on the final scene as well.
cappyboy
06-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Prague, a question for you. Do you have any other angles or are you going to continue playing this one note samba until either Self, you or both are eliminated?
Not that I'm suggesting your 100% wrong. You might be right for all I know at the moment. But we've all heard your thoughts on this subject. We all know them. And we can use them as a safety net if necessary. But I don't know how much more useful there is to say on this topic until MNN and says whatever it is he will say. Right now, it just feels like a distraction to discovering what else we know and potentially catching freshly confirmed scum out of it.
Of course, it must be noted I have an ulterior motive of personal interest in asking. I have found myself in a personal dilemma that hinges on Self's veracity and an alternative that deeply Greaves me if you are right. But please. Until Nick shows up and can shed some light on things, can you put the crusade on hold while we try to decipher what happened last night. We can always revisit it if Nick fails to support Self.
Everything I do seems to come off scummy to you, PP. :)
To clarify, my ability is that I put someone in Detention. This means they are roleblocked AND this means they are unable to be targeted by anyone else. For example, if someone else tried to target Nick last Night, they would have failed, because I'd put them into Detention.
All of this talk about Roleblockers is admittedly confusing. I'm more than a Roleblocker, I'm also a Protector, but Roleblocking is the part that I figure people will get PM's for, hence my harping on about it. It's apparently referred to as a "Warden" role, and honestly, until this game, I'd never heard of it. Now there's 4 of us... apparently
If your power is the same as mine, PP, and we both targeted 019 on Night 1 (a stunt I fully believe you'd pull) then... I don't know. First come, first served? Maybe you got there first? Maybe I got there first? I don't think either of us would have received a "Successful" PM, due to 019 apparently not having an ability to block.
Or maybe you did get a PM. which would imply you got there first AND 019 has a power to block, which means he's lying. Which would be cool to know.
So my question is this, PP, did you successfully target 019 on Night 1. Did you get a PM confirming that it went through? I didn't.
Mr T Jobs To Me
06-08-2009, 11:00 AM
You know I have a couple ideas where this night phase goes. Problem is they aren't fully formed yet. So I'm not sure how much detail I want to get into about them. The one I hope is true depends on you being right here.
I don't think so. Zack was a bit of a showboat at times. But he was no dummy. In fact, if what I was just saying I hope to be true is, I'm pretty positive I know who Actarus is.
/nod, I think I'm right there with you.
Imarevenant
06-08-2009, 11:02 AM
This is confusing. Is the moron the black ranger or Actarus's charcater? I wouldn't think a ranger would be a moron, but again, I really don't know much about the show.
lets go through it.
Moron sees target and thinks target is graceful. Sees target get hit from behind (thus not graceful enough)
Target's vision fades (but it doesn't say target is dead)
Moron turns and then gets attacked by sword (sk I reckon). Moron falls. Presumably dead but not certain.
Any way thats how i read it.
This looks to me, working from the top, that the moron Bulk/Skull, I'm assuming Bulk, is watching a graceful target. Obvious options there. He is being watched by someone.
He is then attacked by someone and injured.
The guy watching him is then killed by Goldar. He always had his big ol' sword to hand and since this is the death of a Ranger and it happened before he could react, the attacker has to be someone good and not, for example, a putty.
Sorry I haven't been all that active, not that I usually am early on, but I've been getting a game up and running elsewhere, which has taken a fair bit of my online time in the last few days. Rolling now, so it will take less of my time.
Catching up, I tried to keep up knowing I would probably sub in at some point, but damn this is an active game. I like it.
Anywho, was going to respond that I read last nights passage differently than what others had it at; and then Slim went ahead and posted before I could. (Although I have no clue what a Goldar is)
As for the PP v Self debate. I can totally see a principal being a warden type. But then how many wardens are too many? Reminds me of the Gotham game where Arrows, IER, and myself all claimed similar abilities, IER's being the real townie one though.
And waiting on MNN to confirm being blocked, in the grand scheme of things, really proves nothing. As it would be just as easy for a scum roleblocker to target him as a townie roleblocker.
Comradebot
06-08-2009, 11:04 AM
The thing is, with characters like the girl who went to the dance with Billy in the game, I have to think that the principal (who appeared in more than just one episode) would be likely to be in.
Meanwhile, we have no idea who PP is or why he's teamed up with two OTHER Wardens.
mjdgoldeneye
06-08-2009, 11:08 AM
Yea, I don't want to go after Self until I know who PP is at least.
The whole situation is all hear-say.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:08 AM
Prague, a question for you. Do you have any other angles or are you going to continue playing this one note samba until either Self, you or both are eliminated?
I'm willing to put my crusade on hold if it will be for the greater good (I just watched Hot Fuzz again, cue the monotonous mantra "for the greater good")
Anyway. I'll put my crusade on hold, but don't expect it to be for longer then another day phase. I'm willing to give a day for people to talk and assimilate info, but if people start a bandwagon up and it isn't against Self and it doesn't have something concrete like "XYZ turned up non-town" then you can expect me to bitch and moan and fling poo around my monkey cage.
From my perspective, I've got scum dead to rights, so unless someone can pull some really clinching info out of thin air, Self will always be on my "most dangerous to town" list, and thus, when the question eventually comes up "who should we lynch" will say Self loud and proud.
Finally, I don't want the self wagon to be on hold for too long because I REALLY don't want another friggin no-lynch. The problem with lynching AFK's is that it doesn't provide much info.
If everyone decided to just lynch another AFK player I'm going to fling my poo and leave. Arrows can replace me with someone less passionate :D
I really think I've got plenty of info to tip the balance against Self...I just can't understand why there's such reluctance to lynch a scummy player, especially with a decided lack of info on other leads.
From my perspective, lynching Self will reveal a wealth of information, even if he IS townie. For example:
1) That obscure roles ARE in. Him coming up town would help validate Zero19 to a minor degree..
2) That there are a crapload of wardens in this game, and thus typical role balance is thrown out the window. This will allow scum a bit more leeway, but will also help prevent mislynches on the fact that there "too many X"
3) He was telling the truth about who he targetted. I'm not convinced but I can't say why for fear of modkill.
What's a bartender?
A bartender is another name for warden. Invite them for a drink and keep them off the streets. The bartender battle between Arrows and IER in Gotham was enjoyable.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 11:09 AM
Catching up, I tried to keep up knowing I would probably sub in at some point, but damn this is an active game. I like it.
Anywho, was going to respond that I read last nights passage differently than what others had it at; and then Slim went ahead and posted before I could. (Although I have no clue what a Goldar is)
As for the PP v Self debate. I can totally see a principal being a warden type. But then how many wardens are too many? Reminds me of the Gotham game where Arrows, IER, and myself all claimed similar abilities, IER's being the real townie one though.
And waiting on MNN to confirm being blocked, in the grand scheme of things, really proves nothing. As it would be just as easy for a scum roleblocker to target him as a townie roleblocker.
I dunno about proove, but would suggest a bit more.
Zero says he didn't get notification of a block because his ability is passive. If MNN confirms Self, it also leads credence to Zero's story as well. Again, that isn't undeniable proof, but it would be evidence Zero and Self are at least being truthful about their respective abilities.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:10 AM
Yea, I don't want to go after Self until I know who PP is at least.
The whole situation is all hear-say.
I guess my issue is that if I reveal myself...will it matter? I mean, does anyone really NOT believe me when I say I'm a townie warden?
If yes, then I guess I'll claim, but I feel it's info better used for scum in picking their targets then anything that will actually help the town.
Zero9teen
06-08-2009, 11:10 AM
1) That obscure roles ARE in. Him coming up town would help validate Zero19 to a minor degree..
2) That there are a crapload of wardens in this game, and thus typical role balance is thrown out the window. This will allow scum a bit more leeway, but will also help prevent mislynches on the fact that there "too many X"
3) He was telling the truth about who he targetted. I'm not convinced but I can't say why for fear of modkill.
Vote: Self
So my question is this, PP, did you successfully target 019 on Night 1. Did you get a PM confirming that it went through? I didn't.
You already answered this. My bad.
mjdgoldeneye
06-08-2009, 11:11 AM
Here's an idea if the Self wagon is getting stale: Trypio?
He can be a good player, but he's posted only a few times and all of his posts are very forced, unoffending observations of the obvious
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 11:12 AM
The thing is, with characters like the girl who went to the dance with Billy in the game, I have to think that the principal (who appeared in more than just one episode) would be likely to be in.
Meanwhile, we have no idea who PP is or why he's teamed up with two OTHER Wardens.
People who know the show, anyone know if there are characters who could make a group of Wardens?
When he first hinted i assumed PP was some kind of ranger, perhaps in a mason group. I guess otehrs may have assumed the same, because he was never really questioned about. But if someone familiar with the show has problems with that story, then maybe PP needs to clear up the confusion.
cappyboy
06-08-2009, 11:13 AM
Everything I do seems to come off scummy to you, PP. :)
To clarify, my ability is that I put someone in Detention. This means they are roleblocked AND this means they are unable to be targeted by anyone else. For example, if someone else tried to target Nick last Night, they would have failed, because I'd put them into Detention.
All of this talk about Roleblockers is admittedly confusing. I'm more than a Roleblocker, I'm also a Protector, but Roleblocking is the part that I figure people will get PM's for, hence my harping on about it. It's apparently referred to as a "Warden" role, and honestly, until this game, I'd never heard of it. Now there's 4 of us... apparently
If your power is the same as mine, PP, and we both targeted 019 on Night 1 (a stunt I fully believe you'd pull) then... I don't know. First come, first served? Maybe you got there first? Maybe I got there first? I don't think either of us would have received a "Successful" PM, due to 019 apparently not having an ability to block.
Or maybe you did get a PM. which would imply you got there first AND 019 has a power to block, which means he's lying. Which would be cool to know.
So my question is this, PP, did you successfully target 019 on Night 1. Did you get a PM confirming that it went through? I didn't.
Now this is interesting. Not only would it resolve the inner conflict I'm feeling but it addresses one I hadn't given proper consideration. Which is to say, Prague, if Self and the better half of my dilemma are to be believed, whither your motives? And for that matter, if you both are to be believed on the Warden thing, whither 019's? Depending on your answer, maybe I wouldn't need to hear from Nick after all.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:13 AM
I dunno about proove, but would suggest a bit more.
Zero says he didn't get notification of a block because his ability is passive. If MNN confirms Self, it also leads credence to Zero's story as well. Again, that isn't undeniable proof, but it would be evidence Zero and Self are at least being truthful about their respective abilities.
I'm going to go ahead and say that unless MNN has a very specific role, he's probably not going to get a PM about being blocked.
Given the lack of info in the write ups, I have a feeling that Arrows won't reveal info unless he absolutely HAS to. So a roleblock or a protection doesn't really NEED info whether it worked or not, it's one way.
Watchers/Trackers/Investigators need feedback because it is inherent to their ability, but the rest of us just have to wait and see. Heck, even kills don't need specific PM feedback because you just have to look at the write ups and figure it out.
Comradebot
06-08-2009, 11:13 AM
I guess my issue is that if I reveal myself...will it matter? I mean, does anyone really NOT believe me when I say I'm a townie warden?
If yes, then I guess I'll claim, but I feel it's info better used for scum in picking their targets then anything that will actually help the town.
Depends. If nothing else, your "crusade" has dominated the discussion in this game to a point that only benefits scum. Saying who you are could help get us past this same arguement and actually speak to people who have been allowed to hang in the background thanks to the massive distraction this whole thing has been.
mjdgoldeneye
06-08-2009, 11:15 AM
I guess my issue is that if I reveal myself...will it matter? I mean, does anyone really NOT believe me when I say I'm a townie warden?
If yes, then I guess I'll claim, but I feel it's info better used for scum in picking their targets then anything that will actually help the town.
I completely don't see how a team of 3 wardens would fit.
Claiming would help me, and if it doesn't make a difference to you, have at it.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:15 AM
People who know the show, anyone know if there are characters who could make a group of Wardens?
When he first hinted i assumed PP was some kind of ranger, perhaps in a mason group. I guess otehrs may have assumed the same, because he was never really questioned about. But if someone familiar with the show has problems with that story, then maybe PP needs to clear up the confusion.
I've been very explicit in not revealing this information as it will cause harm to me and others. That is all I have to say.
Unless you're guaranteeing me that me "telling all" will get Self lynched, I'm not claiming.
As I posted earlier, if Self IS lynched and comes up town I'll post full details so you can pick 'em apart and figure out what went wrong.
Comradebot
06-08-2009, 11:16 AM
Here's an idea if the Self wagon is getting stale: Trypio?
He can be a good player, but he's posted only a few times and all of his posts are very forced, unoffending observations of the obvious
Aye, Trypio comes to mind...
As does the guy who post right below you, and so does Prophet, and a couple of others.
Indeed some of the better players have just sat back and done, well... nothing, as far as we know. Of course, I've also been quieter this game than I usually am.
Comradebot
06-08-2009, 11:18 AM
I've been very explicit in not revealing this information as it will cause harm to me and others. That is all I have to say.
Unless you're guaranteeing me that me "telling all" will get Self lynched, I'm not claiming.
As I posted earlier, if Self IS lynched and comes up town I'll post full details so you can pick 'em apart and figure out what went wrong.
Wouldn't it be better to do that beforehand? Why figure out what WENT wrong instead of what COULD go wrong?
I'll laugh, and die a bit inside, if the both of ya turn up townie.
Mr T Jobs To Me
06-08-2009, 11:18 AM
Vote: Self
His alleged target on Night 1. Are you voting because it helps clear you, or do you have a reason to think you weren't blocked?
I'm going to go ahead and say that unless MNN has a very specific role, he's probably not going to get a PM about being blocked.
Given the lack of info in the write ups, I have a feeling that Arrows won't reveal info unless he absolutely HAS to. So a roleblock or a protection doesn't really NEED info whether it worked or not, it's one way.
Watchers/Trackers/Investigators need feedback because it is inherent to their ability, but the rest of us just have to wait and see. Heck, even kills don't need specific PM feedback because you just have to look at the write ups and figure it out.
I'm 87% sure I know what MNN's role is, and if I'm right, it is one that you get PM's from. That's why I chose him.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:21 AM
Now this is interesting. Not only would it resolve the inner conflict I'm feeling but it addresses one I hadn't given proper consideration. Which is to say, Prague, if Self and the better half of my dilemma are to be believed, whither your motives? And for that matter, if you both are to be believed on the Warden thing, whither 019's? Depending on your answer, maybe I wouldn't need to hear from Nick after all.
"Prague, if Self and the better half of my dilemma are to be believed, whither your motives?"
I am town and I see clear scum. For some reason very few others seem to see it with the conviction that I do and that bothers me to no small degree. You guys resorted to lynching an AFK player when I brought up serious points that were never fully rebuted. Nobody has cleared Self. No info has presented itself to absolve him of all his scummy D1 posts.
I beleive this so strongly that I am not joking about quitting if this doesn't get through because I feel I can't play with people who would let such a scummy player just pass on by because they "need more info" and then turn around and lynch an AFK player.
"And for that matter, if you both are to be believed on the Warden thing, whither 019's?"
I have no idea what this means, but considering I dont' know which write up I'm in, I have no clue. If you can consider Mellissa a "child" then she sounds innocent. If I'm part of the group being attacked by "something worse" then I have no clue whether it was my target that was "something worse" of if "something worse" appeared and blocked me or if "something worse" was something I blocked, but it doesn't sound like it.
Anyway, if you're looking for PM results, as I posted earlier I have not recevied any reseult PMs.
As for why, look at my earlier post.
Zero9teen
06-08-2009, 11:24 AM
His alleged target on Night 1. Are you voting because it helps clear you, or do you have a reason to think you weren't blocked?
*...*
*signs out an answer*
/lack of effort :(
Mr T Jobs To Me
06-08-2009, 11:26 AM
*...*
*signs out an answer*
/lack of effort :(
Hmmm, do I have to phrase it yes/no then? Were you blocked Night 1>
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:28 AM
I'm 87% sure I know what MNN's role is, and if I'm right, it is one that you get PM's from. That's why I chose him.
See, what you so expertly keep trying to avoid is the issue that this doesn't really prove anything beyond your power.
You could easily be a scum roleblocker (or even scum warden) and it'll end up the same result.
You could have scum JOAT powers, you could have recruited him and of course he'll lie through his teeth to protect the cult leader :D
I beleive my logic is sound that lynching Self is the best course of action on all fronts. If he turns up scum, yay. If he doesn't, we can look back at the voting and posting habits of some of these suspciious characters (/nod @ tyrpio.)
LIke I said. There's really two outcomes, both fairly positive.
1) Self vs. PP debate is over, and he comes up scum: This will let us know what grouping and color scum are. Might reveal a second scum group. Might reveal a cult and then his proclaimed targets would have to be investigated, especially MNN who he's hanging a lot of faith on to clear his name.
2) Self vs PP debate is over, he comes up town. Now we can look back and see who "knew" this would happen, but progressed anyway.We can definitely use these patterns against scum in the future. Plus it reveals a lot about the game layout about whether obscure characters are in, whether roles are overloaded etc. etc.
Frankely though, I really can't see 4 wardens in the game. If this is the ONLY thing holding back the bandwagon, the question of "how can there be 4 wardens?" then I'll spill beans.
If 5 people bold their "I want PP to reveal his info" then I'll spill it. But remember, I believe 100% that this info will be more helpful to scum then town.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 11:30 AM
I've been very explicit in not revealing this information as it will cause harm to me and others. That is all I have to say.
Unless you're guaranteeing me that me "telling all" will get Self lynched, I'm not claiming.
As I posted earlier, if Self IS lynched and comes up town I'll post full details so you can pick 'em apart and figure out what went wrong.
Not asking for a claim per se, just saying its going to take more than your word to get this done. And frankly i agree this feud between you and Self has become counter productive. Its like VG Mafia where I became totall obsessed with the idea that Clarity was scum faking a townie investigator claim, to the point it helped to destroy my scum group and the town, allowing Derek B's group to attain the only perfect scum victory to date. Thats a consequence of having tunnelvision in these games.
Its come down tio Self trying to prove himself town and you trying to prove him scum, but so far there's only conjecture to choose from, and conjecture alone won't convince enough people in either direction.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:33 AM
Its come down tio Self trying to prove himself town and you trying to prove him scum, but so far there's only conjecture to choose from, and conjecture alone won't convince enough people in either direction.
It's not just conjecture though. Look back at the end of D1. The bandwagon was rolling full steam, we just ran out of time.
And I lost count of the number of "Self look scummy..." posts.
Would people hop back on the bandwagon if I reposted how in D1 you said "yeah, he's scummy" I almost feel like that would be more effective then me claiming.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 11:33 AM
"Prague, if Self and the better half of my dilemma are to be believed, whither your motives?"
I am town and I see clear scum. For some reason very few others seem to see it with the conviction that I do and that bothers me to no small degree. You guys resorted to lynching an AFK player when I brought up serious points that were never fully rebuted. Nobody has cleared Self. No info has presented itself to absolve him of all his scummy D1 posts.
I beleive this so strongly that I am not joking about quitting if this doesn't get through because I feel I can't play with people who would let such a scummy player just pass on by because they "need more info" and then turn around and lynch an AFK player.
"And for that matter, if you both are to be believed on the Warden thing, whither 019's?"
I have no idea what this means, but considering I dont' know which write up I'm in, I have no clue. If you can consider Mellissa a "child" then she sounds innocent. If I'm part of the group being attacked by "something worse" then I have no clue whether it was my target that was "something worse" of if "something worse" appeared and blocked me or if "something worse" was something I blocked, but it doesn't sound like it.
Anyway, if you're looking for PM results, as I posted earlier I have not recevied any reseult PMs.
As for why, look at my earlier post.
I think what he's asking is, if you are a warden, and you targetted Zero on n1 as Self did, if you didn't get any info from your blocking of Zero,why continue to assume the worst about Self?
If you didn't get notifi8cation, and Self says he didn't, for blocking teh same target, doesn't that confirm Self's story in some small way?
cappyboy
06-08-2009, 11:34 AM
I'm willing to put my crusade on hold if it will be for the greater good (I just watched Hot Fuzz again, cue the monotonous mantra "for the greater good")
Anyway. I'll put my crusade on hold, but don't expect it to be for longer then another day phase. I'm willing to give a day for people to talk and assimilate info, but if people start a bandwagon up and it isn't against Self and it doesn't have something concrete like "XYZ turned up non-town" then you can expect me to bitch and moan and fling poo around my monkey cage.
Fair enough. I have no problem with that. I desire the good of Angel Grove as much as you do after all.
From my perspective, I've got scum dead to rights, so unless someone can pull some really clinching info out of thin air, Self will always be on my "most dangerous to town" list, and thus, when the question eventually comes up "who should we lynch" will say Self loud and proud.
Finally, I don't want the self wagon to be on hold for too long because I REALLY don't want another friggin no-lynch. The problem with lynching AFK's is that it doesn't provide much info.
Also fair. My problem with you and the whole Self campaign. Well, before the current dilemma I'm in arose anyway. Is that it reminds me of myself in the DOTT game.
Antithesis had claimed as Jesse The Body Ventura as was claiming a politician role. Something I was thoroughly convinced was a ruse. As thoroughly as you are convinced Self is scum now. It had just felt too convenient. I thought Anti was using facts we'd remember from after the time period of the game as a shield.
My assumption was that yes, he was Ventura. But because of the way the opening writeup was handled, that he was the Mafia hitman. I was drawing on Ventura's history of having been a Navy SEAL before entering wrestling and pairing that with the method of execution of the starter characters. Problem was I was so blinded by that pet theory, I overlooked how directly in that time frame, Ventura has also black sheeped himself within the industry by trying to unionize the locker room. A task which would make the political role believeable.
I'm willing to consider the possibility you're right. But I don't want to be lead astray following someone who may only be seeing half the picture like I was in DOTT.
From my perspective, lynching Self will reveal a wealth of information, even if he IS townie. For example:
1) That obscure roles ARE in. Him coming up town would help validate Zero19 to a minor degree..
Which seems to have been pretty well covered from the UFC-King lynch. I think we've all pretty well given up the notion that someone like Connor or Trent could be in the game since he came up as Marge.
2) That there are a crapload of wardens in this game, and thus typical role balance is thrown out the window. This will allow scum a bit more leeway, but will also help prevent mislynches on the fact that there "too many X"
This sounds like the best argument for a Self lynch I've heard you make. Not that it's enough to sell me. But I could live with it if necessary.
3) He was telling the truth about who he targetted. I'm not convinced but I can't say why for fear of modkill.
If he's teliing the truth, I would hate to think it would take lynching him to determine this. He could be a very useful insurance policy against having other wardens night-killed if he's to be believed. But you're probably right here as far as it goes.
ShadowedFlames
06-08-2009, 11:34 AM
@ Anti: I think I know what/who prague's hinting at being, based off his comment. Right now I'm willing to go with him on this one, and I'm gonna be real FOS-like on him if this fails. So for now, a preliminary Vote: Self works for me.
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:41 AM
@ Anti: I think I know what/who prague's hinting at being, based off his comment. Right now I'm willing to go with him on this one, and I'm gonna be real FOS-like on him if this fails. So for now, a preliminary Vote: Self works for me.
Thank you. Like I said, if Self comes up townie my first post will be role claiming and as best a paraphrase of my abilities as I possibly can.
I will reveal how I know my information, the extent of my abilities, everything if he turns up town.
@Cappyboy: How sure would you have felt if you were a politician as well? And you knew of 3 other politicians in the game? How outrageous would it be that he ened up telling the truth all along. I have my concerns, of course, but now I'm championing under the "counter role-claim" flag. I wish I was the prinicipal so I could really nail him, but the best I can say that given the extraordinary number of wardens in the game, and considering I know 3/4 are town, that 4th one is very suspect to me.
Midnightnick
06-08-2009, 11:46 AM
Last night I chose to roleblock MidnightNick. Sorry if you had things you needed to do, but I needed to block someone with a Night action, and as out-of-character as it is, I trust you. Did you get a PM?
I did not. My actions would be shown in the writeup, as I explained Day 2. So I imagine any roleblocks would also be shown in the writeup with me.
Now that I look back at it, THIS could potentially be me protecting Zero19. I don't know, as the punching bag fits but the Power Ranger thing doesn't.
How old was Melissa? Could she be classified as a child? Anyway, if this IS me, then Self didn't target Zero19 like he said he would.
It's not involving 019 at all Prague.
I'm going to go ahead and say that unless MNN has a very specific role, he's probably not going to get a PM about being blocked.
Given the lack of info in the write ups, I have a feeling that Arrows won't reveal info unless he absolutely HAS to. So a roleblock or a protection doesn't really NEED info whether it worked or not, it's one way.
Watchers/Trackers/Investigators need feedback because it is inherent to their ability, but the rest of us just have to wait and see. Heck, even kills don't need specific PM feedback because you just have to look at the write ups and figure it out.
I don't get PMs as I said.
I'm 87% sure I know what MNN's role is, and if I'm right, it is one that you get PM's from. That's why I chose him.
Sorry Self, I don't get PMs. I do believe you though.
cappyboy
06-08-2009, 11:50 AM
@Cappyboy: How sure would you have felt if you were a politician as well? And you knew of 3 other politicians in the game? How outrageous would it be that he ened up telling the truth all along. I have my concerns, of course, but now I'm championing under the "counter role-claim" flag. I wish I was the prinicipal so I could really nail him, but the best I can say that given the extraordinary number of wardens in the game, and considering I know 3/4 are town, that 4th one is very suspect to me.
Here's the problem with that though. I'm on the outside looking in here. I have no comfort level with who or what you are. But you know what? I'll play along with you.
Had I been a politician as well in DOTT and I'd known of others when Anti made that claim, I'll grant you I'd have been skeptical. But since we're hyptothetizing alternate reality anyway, it's also reasonable to hypothetize in that scenario I might have remembered Ventura's unionization attempt. And if I'd remembered that about Jesse, skeptical as I might have been, I'd have in no way been comfortable about what he might be. Assuming I made the same assumptions the same way? Maybe I hear you. But either way that's a lot of hypothetical and it doesn't bolster your case any.
cappyboy
06-08-2009, 11:52 AM
I did not. My actions would be shown in the writeup, as I explained Day 2. So I imagine any roleblocks would also be shown in the writeup with me.
It's not involving 019 at all Prague.
I don't get PMs as I said.
Sorry Self, I don't get PMs. I do believe you though.
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
::Hangs head in shame::
praguepride
06-08-2009, 11:55 AM
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
::Hangs head in shame::
Lol. I think the message here is that we'll have to rely on our own intuition and not just wait for the mods to reveal everything about everyone.
They're not going to tell us who's who in the write ups. They're not going to tell us what happens to us. They're going to reveal at most genders and that's about it. We're going to have to scumhunt the old fashioned way: intelligent logical reasoning.
May god help us all :D
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 12:02 PM
@ Anti: I think I know what/who prague's hinting at being, based off his comment. Right now I'm willing to go with him on this one, and I'm gonna be real FOS-like on him if this fails. So for now, a preliminary Vote: Self works for me.
Well, if you know the show and find what he says has merit then thats good enough for me.
That said though I am gonna wait on MNN before I cast a vote
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 12:06 PM
And it looks like I missed MNN's post.
Ok well... obviously its still too early for a lynch here. Maybe someone has more info and they haven't logged on yet.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Lol. I think the message here is that we'll have to rely on our own intuition and not just wait for the mods to reveal everything about everyone.
They're not going to tell us who's who in the write ups. They're not going to tell us what happens to us. They're going to reveal at most genders and that's about it. We're going to have to scumhunt the old fashioned way: intelligent logical reasoning.
May god help us all :D
This whole strict Mod PM thing is also reminding me of SIN. Tell me Arrows, you happen to follow that game at all? :D
Arrows
06-08-2009, 12:11 PM
This whole strict Mod PM thing is also reminding me of SIN. Tell me Arrows, you happen to follow that game at all? :D
I actually think that was the game I was on my cruise during. If so, nope, didn't follow that one.
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 12:14 PM
Dang. Ah well then, you missed a good one. Game came down to one vote in the end.
Zero9teen
06-08-2009, 12:18 PM
Hmmm, do I have to phrase it yes/no then? Were you blocked Night 1>
*shakes head*
foolinc
06-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Dang. Ah well then, you missed a good one. Game came down to one vote in the end.
And what a vote that was.
foolinc
06-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Hey, would anyone like to help me out here. In a Power Rangers game, what would be the reason behind not being able to "get" to someone you targeted? Unless this is the wording Arrows is using for being roleblocked. And if that is the case, I am changing my question to who the hell roleblocked me. ;)
Anyone?
Antithesis
06-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Anyone?
I'd say roleblocking is an option, considering how many people have claimed an ability to lock people out.
supermareo
06-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Hey, would anyone like to help me out here. In a Power Rangers game, what would be the reason behind not being able to "get" to someone you targeted? Unless this is the wording Arrows is using for being roleblocked. And if that is the case, I am changing my question to who the hell roleblocked me. ;)
could be a number of reasons number 1 that springd to mind is a roleblock, the other is the person is simply untargettable for a reason such as a hider
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