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curtains
07-20-2009, 08:02 PM
There's something I noticed playing the game:

1. When you have two ground fighters, they will generally both try to take the fight to the ground. It's rare that you see one of them use a pure standup strategy.

2. When you have one ground and one standup fighter, it's usually clear that the ground fighter tries to get it to the ground, and the standup tries to keep it standing. Of course there are exceptions, but this is the norm.

3. The problem for me comes when it's two standup fighters facing off. It seems invariably that one of them decides not to focus on the striking and instead go for takedowns (which they generally don't acheive). Regardless of whether this may be their best strategy, I'm a little upset that I rarely get to see a pure striking vs striking match play out in the simulator. I'm always excited to see some match between two strikers who never goto the ground, to notice immediately that one is suddenly trying to become a ground fighter, with repeated takedown attempts. The scenarios I've seen just aren't very realistic IMO.


Below is just one latest example of this occurence between two strikers. These two are basically pure strikers and suddenly they are obsessed with takedowns. The second fight is the same thing from the same card. Two pure strikers, in which one of them decides to try to be a takedown artist instead. Of course it fails miserably, but why don't they just strike with each other like they almost certainly would in real life, since that's what they have been doing their entire career! That just doesn't happen very often irl, sometimes, but certainly not with the frequency I'm seeing in this game.

>Another match is about to begin; 'The Phenom' Sayoko Ebisawa goes head to head with Hester 'The Slayer' Maclean in the GAMMA Women's Middleweight division.
>There's the opening bell!
>Maclean looks like she might be trying to get in close and wrestle with Ebisawa.
>They start grappling, Ebisawa looks happy to engage Maclean at close quarters.
>Ebisawa gets caught with a couple of nice short punches as Maclean uses her dirty boxing to inflict some punishment.
>Maclean is trying to muscle Ebisawa up against the cage.
>Ebisawa doesn't let herself be driven back though, and gains a dominant position in the grapple instead.
>Ebisawa looks for a takedown from the grapple.
>Maclean blocks the takedown attempt and takes control of the grapple.
>Maclean is trying to muscle Ebisawa up against the cage.
>Maclean can't do it though, and ends up being out-wrestled in the grapple.
>Ebisawa hits Maclean with some short strikes to the side of the head while grappling.
>Ebisawa tries to take Maclean down from the grapple.
>She has the takedown! Maclean pulls guard.
>Ebisawa throws a few punches, but they appear to be more of a prelude to something bigger.
>Maclean uses her legs to push Ebisawa back, and tries to scramble for position.
>We pass the halfway mark of this round.
>The scramble leaves Ebisawa turtled up, facing Maclean.
>Maclean unloads with big punches to the side of the head, landing several that clearly hurt Ebisawa.
>Maclean pounds away on the body and side of the head, Ebisawa struggles to deal with them.
>Maclean unloads with big punches to the side of the head, landing several that clearly hurt Ebisawa.
>Maclean looks to unload with some big punches, but Ebisawa gets back to her feet before too many land.
>The end of the round is coming quick, there's under a minute left.
>Maclean is looking to turn this into a wrestling match, and is getting in closer to Ebisawa.
>Maclean can't get close enough to grapple, Ebisawa keeps her away with strikes.
>Ebisawa steps in and unloads with a nice sequence of jabs.
>Ebisawa comes in with a couple of jabs, using them as cover so that she can shoot in.
>Maclean not only defends the takedown, she reverses it and takes Ebisawa down! She has to pull half guard.
>The time runs out on round one.
>That round goes to Maclean, 10-9 on my card.
>We are back underway!
>Maclean sneaks a glance at her corner.
>Ebisawa quickly gets in closer, looking to attack.
>Ebisawa is looking to turn this into a wrestling match, and is getting in closer to Maclean.
>Ebisawa cannot get close enough to the elusive Maclean to grapple.
>A speculative waist-high kick by Maclean finds nothing but air.
>Ebisawa comes in closer to press the issue.
>Ebisawa uses a combination of three punches to get Maclean to cover up, then shoots in looking for a takedown.
>Maclean tries to avoid the takedown.
>The takedown is unsuccessful, Maclean avoided Ebisawa.
>Ebisawa avoids a jab and scores with a flurry of small strikes.
>We pass the halfway mark of this round.
>Maclean fakes a lunge.
>Not letting up, Ebisawa quickly steps in closer to attack Maclean.
>Ebisawa throws a couple of jabs, then chooses to shoot in on Maclean.
>Maclean attempts to avoid Ebisawa as she shoots in.
>Ebisawa doesn't get the takedown, Maclean avoided it.
>Maclean throws out a quick jab.
>Not letting up, Ebisawa quickly steps in closer to attack Maclean.
>Ebisawa gets Maclean with a nice jab.
>We're into the final minute of the round.
>Ebisawa throws out a quick jab.
>Maclean doesn't press the issue, allowing Ebisawa to circle.
>The time runs out on round two.
>That has to go down as a 10-9 round to Ebisawa.
>We are back underway!
>Between rounds we could hear the corner of Maclean telling her to keep her guard high.
>Maclean looks like she might be trying to get in close and wrestle with Ebisawa.
>Ebisawa ends up grappling for supremacy with Maclean.
>Maclean uses some dirty boxing as she grapples with Ebisawa.
>Maclean is trying to push Ebisawa so that her back is up against the cage.
>Maclean can't move Ebisawa at all though, and finds herself being out-wrestled.
>Ebisawa tries to wrestle Maclean backward and up against the cage.
>Ebisawa does it, Maclean is stuck with her back to the cage.
>Sayoko Ebisawa is breathing very hard.
>Hester Maclean is breathing very hard.
>Maclean wrestles back against Ebisawa, not letting her maintain control for any length of time.
>Ebisawa uses dirty boxing to punish Maclean while she is pressed up against the cage.
>Ebisawa attempts to wrestle Maclean to the ground.
>Maclean shows stubborn resistance to the takedown, but Ebisawa does manage to slip behind her so that she has the back.
>We go past the halfway point of this round.
>Having been stuck against the cage for a while without any progress, the referee brings them back to the center.
>Maclean throws a couple of jabs, a set up for a tired-looking takedown attempt on Ebisawa.
>Ebisawa sees the takedown coming and tries to move.
>Maclean doesn't get the takedown, Ebisawa avoided it.
>Sayoko Ebisawa looks like she doesn't have a lot left to give.
>A drained-looking Maclean tries to close the distance between them.
>She pulls Ebisawa into a grapple.
>Maclean is trying to push Ebisawa so that her back is up against the cage.
>Ebisawa ends up backed against the cage.
>Hester Maclean looks very, very tired.
>We're into the final minute of the round.
>Maclean smothers Ebisawa against the cage, keeping solid control for the remainder of the round.
>We reach the time limit and this fight is over.
>I'd say that was definitely 10-9 in favour of Maclean.
>The official scores are being reported now.
>Judge #1 has scored it 29-28 Maclean.
>Judge #2 has scored it 29-28 Maclean.
>Judge #3 scores the match as 29-28 to Maclean.
>So the winner, by unanimous decision, is Hester 'The Slayer' Maclean!
>Official Result: Hester 'The Slayer' Maclean defeats 'The Phenom' Sayoko Ebisawa (Unanimous Decision in 5:00 of round 3). The match was rated as being Good.






>Moving on to the next match, in which 'Lost Innocence' Leslie Myers goes head to head with 'The Electrifying' Jenny DeNeuve in the GAMMA Women's Lightweight division.
>Round one begins!
>Myers tries for a body kick but DeNeuve moves out of range.
>DeNeuve comes in quick and hits a quick series of punches.
>DeNeuve hits Myers with a flurry of jabs and straight punches.
>Myers takes a jab.
>Myers comes in, looking for a quick takedown.
>DeNeuve snaps off a strong jab as a counter, but it only finds the gloves.
>DeNeuve avoids a body kick.
>We've now passed the halfway mark in this round.
>Myers counters an attempted body kick by scoring with a straight punch.
>Myers looks like she might be trying to get in close and wrestle with DeNeuve.
>Myers grabs DeNeuve and pulls her into a grapple.
>Myers separates from DeNeuve and we're back to a stand-off.
>Myers is looking to turn this into a wrestling match, and is getting in closer to DeNeuve.
>Not keen on wrestling Myers, DeNeuve uses movement to keep out of reach.
>We're into the final minute of the round.
>DeNeuve steps back to avoid a barrage of big punches.
>Myers comes in closer, looking to wrestle with DeNeuve.
>DeNeuve is pulled into a grapple.
>Time expires and we come to the end of round one.
>There was very little to separate them in that round, but I'll give that one 10-9 to Myers.
>Round two begins!
>DeNeuve uses a crisp teep to knock Myers down.
>DeNeuve dives in from the side and looks to finish the match with strikes.
>DeNeuve rains down bombs on Myers, but she somehow manages to withstand the barrage.
>DeNeuve ends up in side control.
>DeNeuve lets go of side control and stands up, then backs off, wanting the fight standing.
>DeNeuve throws a combination but doesn't do any damage.
>Time slips away as Myers doesn't press DeNeuve, allowing her to circle.
>They both meet with strikes, but neither does any damage.
>We've now passed the halfway mark in this round.
>Myers comes in, looking for a quick takedown.
>DeNeuve sprawls, stopping the takedown and forcing Myers down to the ground into a type of turtle position.
>Myers takes a few punches on the way, but manages to get back to standing.
>DeNeuve hits Myers with a flurry of jabs and straight punches.
>DeNeuve bobs and weaves.
>Myers seems to be waiting for DeNeuve to make a move.
>There's under a minute left in this round.
>Myers comes in closer, looking to wrestle with DeNeuve.
>To counter, DeNeuve throws a huge strike which doesn't miss by much.
>Myers is caught with a barrage of big punches, forcing her up against the cage!
>The referee pulls DeNeuve away, stopping the match!
>The winner, by TKO, is 'The Electrifying' Jenny DeNeuve!
>Official Result: 'The Electrifying' Jenny DeNeuve defeats 'Lost Innocence' Leslie Myers (TKO in 4:53 of round 2). The match was rated as being Good.

Adam Ryland
07-22-2009, 06:22 AM
Try the July 22nd patch once it is uploaded.

Moose
08-06-2009, 06:53 PM
>DeNeuve uses a crisp teep to knock Myers down.

I just had the same thing happen in a game (using the same 2 fighters as a matter of fact)... And I have a question... What on Earth is a teep? I have never heard this term used before. I looked it up and can't find anything but acronyms for various charitable and educational programs.

Adam Ryland
08-07-2009, 03:30 AM
It's a straight front kick.

Eyeball
08-07-2009, 07:31 AM
Teep = Push kick. Thai boxing word for front kick that you generally use to keep the distance between you and your opponent rather than do damage with. More of a pushing motion than a snap. Thai boxers tend to rely on round kicks for doing damage.

curtains
08-07-2009, 11:04 AM
Teep = Push kick. Thai boxing word for front kick that you generally use to keep the distance between you and your opponent rather than do damage with. More of a pushing motion than a snap. Thai boxers tend to rely on round kicks for doing damage.

Sort of like a jab for kicks.

aberams2k9
08-08-2009, 10:55 AM
A teep is often used to set up something bigger, or sometimes in a defence situation. A Thai Boxer will often defend a teep by parying it. If opponent uses his left leg for the teep, you would use you would use your left hand to pary the teep towards the left side, and then counter with a right round kick to the opponents right leg to sweep him, or you could use a right punch followed by a left hook or uppercut. Teeps have to be used with caution as an experienced Muay Thai fighter will counter them very easily.