Science Fiction Chaos Mafia - Game Thread

[panix04]

THE BORING STUFF

HOW TO PLAY:

- All of you have been PM’d a role and your alignment. The objective is to fulfil your win criteria
- Each player has been given a role. You may also have a special ability. Your PM will explain what it does, if you are meant to know. You don’t have to reveal what your role is to the other players, nor will we do so in our updates. Then again there is nothing to stop you, so if you feel that it may help prove your innocence, go ahead - just keep in mind that this could also backfire and help the mafia. In other words, claim at your own risk. Likewise, you may lie about who you are if you wish. If you want to use your abilities, PM us. DO NOT post it in the thread unless your role PM states otherwise!

- The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day, and all players (Mafia and Townie alike) post in the thread, deciding who to kill off. Lynching is the only sure-fire way for the Townies to kill the Mafia, so be sure to examine voting patterns of your fellow players. There may also be clues in the death write ups, but over-reliance on those is ill-advised as some may be traps. Day phases will last 48 hours or until a consensus is reached. Night phases will last 24 hours but may end earlier if all night activities are concluded. (I reserves the right to amed the length of phases to make write ups easier)

- All voting and discussion is to occur within the thread. Town players may discuss who they think is Mafia, and Mafia members should be trying to bluff/convince/blend in, and generally try not to get voted for. To vote, post Vote: Username (MUST BE IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote, by typing Change Vote: Username (AGAIN BOLDED!). You can also change your vote to nobody by typing Change Vote: No Vote (IN BOLD!). You can also choose to vote for No Lynching by using Vote: No Lynch (yeah... BOLDED!), meaning you actively vote to not lynch anyone during that day phase rather than passively not voting at all. You must post in the thread for your vote to be counted. You do not have to vote if you do not wish to.

- A Day Phase is over whenever a person obtains more than 50% of the vote (and is lynched) or when the 48 hours run out. If no majority vote has been reached by the time the day phase expires, a no lynch will be declared. Once a person dies, their alignment will be revealed. These rules may change if somebody’s role effects them.

- Night falls after somebody is executed or a no lynch is achieved. During this time, the Mafia can discuss who they want to kill next (using whatever form of communication appeals to them). Abilities are also used during this time. To use an ability, PM both mods (panix04; Arrows), and we'll PM you the outcome of the ability the following day phase. If it is something serious like somebody getting killed, I will update it in the thread. If possible though, try to PM us what you want to do as soon after night falls as possible to keep things moving along at a quick pace.

- Night ends once we post who gets killed, and the cycle repeats itself. The Town players win if all Mafia members are dead, remember, this is a team effort, so if you think sacrificing someone may help your cause, go ahead.

- Remember, some roles such as investigators and protectors are more valuable to the town - so try to keep them alive!

RULES:

- This may be a Mafia game thread, but try not to postwhore in the thread anyway. Feel free to trash talk, accuse, call out other players if you want, but if you’re going to vote, at least state some kind of reason as to why you’re doing so.

- Though we can’t force you to post, we’d love to see active participation. We would advise everyone try to check in with this game at least once a day. Things move fast and you can fall behind pretty easily.

- Once you are dead, you stay dead, and may not participate until the game is over except in very rare cases. This includes notes found on your corpse, cryptic messages from the dead, etc, etc. You may also not advise the remaining players on what to do - besides, to prevent cheating, I will not provide the dead with any additional information than they would get if they were still alive. Of course, I’m willing to listen to your theories as to what’s going on. Likewise, I'd appreciate if those not taking part try not to help those playing, though general comments on how things are going would be welcomed in the Sign Up Thread. As is tradition in these games, though, one after-death 'ghost post' is permitted to bemoan your fate, curse your lynchers and so on.

- Unless your role PM specifically states otherwise, all players may not discuss game plan, your role, or alignment outside the thread. Of course, we can’t enforce this, but secretly revealing information amongst each other would spoil the game, so don’t do it. If it comes to our attention that you've been talking about the game outside the thread then you will be killed. This is your only warning.

- Players are not allowed to edit their posts in this thread at all, as it allows for those who make mistakes to remove all of the evidence without any effort. Since I can't enforce this, I strongly encourage all players to scrutinize any posts they notice that have been edited.

-Players are not allowed to cut and paste anything straight from the Role PM except the Role title. No cutting and pasting from the body of the PM. You can paraphrase what your Role PM says but that is all.

- Please play your role/alignment and play to win. We will be strict about this, so please don't make us enforce it.

- Talking about your role after death or to those who have died IS NOT allowed.

- Not everything is as it seems. If something unexpected happens, feel free to question it to us in private. If we can, we'll answer. If not, we'll be blunt and tell you that we can't answer it at the present time.

We reserve the right to mod kill if we find out that any of these rules have been broken. Please remember that you are not the only one playing this game, so don't ruin it for everyone else!

The mods for this game are Panix04, and Arrows. Questions can be sent to any of us at any time.

Let us all keep in mind that this is a game and should be an enjoyable experience.



**Special Rules and Stuff**

- Voting for the presidential election is done via PM on the first night phase. The people who are running will be introduced to you (if they have not done so themselves already.) You must then decide who gets your vote and send a PM to both mods.

- If we feel your behavior (in or out of character) is unfair or damaging to the integrity of the game, you will be modkilled or replaced.

-We reserve the right to edit, change, add to, or append the rules at any time. Any such decrees will be posted in the thread.

-If you have any questions at all, make sure you PM myself and Arrows as soon as they arise. The mods can not be held responsible for you misunderstanding something if you never bothered to ask.

-No using the mods as a crutch. No claiming that you're waiting from an answer from a mod or anything of the like.

-Let me emphasize an often ignored aspect of the game: The write-ups may include misleading information. Don't count on anything being completely imaginary or incorrect, but things might not be as they seem.

-Don't post your win condition. There are multiple "town" win conditions that differ only slightly in flavor or wording. To avoid distraction, I'll make it law: You may not post your win condition!

Don't post until I say so. The opening write up will be coming soon!

[panix04]

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Part1 The end of the world?



President Palmer: I call you all here today in the shadow of a black cloud, that hangs over our nation. You are probably wondering why I have assembled a group of individuals with such extraordinary abilities. Well the answer to that question is simple my fellow countrymen. Last night the nuclear football was reported missing. Stolen by a terrorist organisation. Also our intel. reports that the code to access the information inside the football have been leaked. We stand here on the verge of eradication. We stand in the overpowering darkness of the threat of a nuclear war being thrust upon us and that’s why you are all here at area51. Because my friends you people have the ability to prevent this disaster, every one of you is an expert in your field and I need you , no, your country needs you to prevent this potential disaster!

The president is interrupted by the sound of gun-fire. A single sniper bullet pierces the skull of President David Palmer and he falls to the floor. The President has just been assassinated! There is fear and confusion. Throughout the bunker. The president’s aide, an oddly dressed man runs to the president and keels down next to him with a screw-driver like device. He puts the device to the head of David Palmer, but after a few seconds it is clear what he is attempting is not working!

The Doctor: This can’t be! I was meant to prevent this! What’s the use of being a time lord when this tragedy cannot be avoided?

There is another noise, this time a different sound. The sound of somebody being kicked. Not just kicked, but kicked hard. The Doctor falls to the ground mortally wounded. But who could kick that hard? And make good his escape as fast as lightning? The room is filled with a stunned silence and confusion, before a smartly dressed man takes the presidents podium.

Smartly dressed man: We are all stunned and saddened by what has just happened. But we are all aware of what is at stake here. There will be a time for grieving for a great president, that time is not now. Now is the time for action. Tonight we will elect a new president. And over the course of the next few days we will endeavour to recover the missing Nuclear football and discover the presidents assassin. I for one feel that this assassination and the missing Nuclear information are intrinsically linked and if we solve one puzzle the other will solve itself. Nobody leaves this installation until we get to the bottom of this problem. We must recover that football!

Panix04 is dead he was President David Palmer Town aligned, first black president
Arrows is dead he was Doctor Who Town aligned, enigmatic, selfless timelord

[panix04]

Game Summary

Active Players:

7) Gonvick
17) Slim Jim
19) Moon lit tears
24) Astil
31) Sean McFly - replaced by paws7297
33) Machinexse
34) Nevermore

Graveyard:

1) The Black Phenom is dead he was Angelus individually aligned blood sucking , evil, yet oddly charming vampire.
2) The Shape is dead he was Batman, Town aligned gadget using vigilante
3) Praguepride is dead he was Captain Picard anti-terrorist aligned helpful person
4) Comradebot is dead. He was Steve Austin town aligned 6 million dollar man.
5) Crychon is dead. He was Silent Bob, Stoner aligned silent sidekick
6) I effin rule is dead, he was Robin Hood, town aligned Nottingham dwelling vigilante.
8) Gabbo is dead he was Cole Turner Individually aligned Whitelighter
9) Glotnot/Ford is dead he was The Joker Individually aligned psychotic killer.
10) Gruntmark is dead he was You are Darth Vader Sith aligned force wielder
11) Undertaker666/shadowedflames is dead they were Jay, Stoner aligned Kwikie Mart regular
12) Acturus is dead he was Nathan Petrelli Self-aligned ruler of the free world.
13) Bak42 is dead he was Willow individually aligned evil witch on a vengeance mission
14) Midnightnick is dead he was Freddy Kreuger, Individually aligned knife gloved original dream killer
15) MJDgoldeneye is dead he was Lex Luthor individually aligned enemy of Superman and egomaniac presidential candidate.
16) Petrija/Jaded are dead they were Megatron Individually aligned leader of the Decipticons
18) Jmna2K3 is dead he was CGB Spender, Syndicate aligned Cigarette Smoking dark agent
20) shortshortsarentdead is dead he was Luis Cardinal Syndicate aligned Hispanic dark agent.
21) Masterded is dead he was The Well manicured man, syndicate aligned leader.
22) wallbanger is dead he was Paige Halliwell charmed aligned half witch/half whitelighter.
23) Prophet/eayragt is dead they were the scorpion king, Town aligned ancient warrior with untold powers
25) Shigakai/D_W_W are dead they were Optimus Prime, Town aligned leader of the Autobots and a cast iron good guy
26) Destiny is dead he was Piper Halliwell charmed aligned mother-like witch with issues
27) Mr T Jobs to me is dead he was special agent Fox Mulder FBI aligned seeker of the truth
28) Derek B is dead he was Xander Harris Slayerette aligned heart and soul of the operation
29) Self is dead he was Luke Skywalker Terrorist aligned whiny farm boy/bad ass Jedi
30) Antithesis is dead he was Gabriel gray, Town aligned shy retiring watch maker
32) Super Owens is dead he was Phoebe Halliwell individually aligned grieving ex-girl friend of Cole
35) Clarity is dead he was Godzilla Individually aligned big lumbering oaf that goes around smashing up buildings
36) The two is dead he was Buffy The vampire slayer, Slayerette aligned chosen one extraordinaire
37) Cappyboy is dead he was Hiro Nakamura, town aligned distorter of time and space
38) djthefunkchris is dead. He was Jack Bauer Town aligned general CTU bad ass and master of the brutal interrogation.
39) Panix04 is dead he was President David Palmer Town aligned, first black president
40) Arrows is dead he was Doctor Who Town aligned, enigmatic, selfless timelord
41) Bluestar is dead he was Pikachu town aligned yellow chinchilla looking thingy.


Winners:

Ford/Glotnot - The Joker

Phase Summary:

Day 1 - No lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?p=686494#post686494)
Night phase 1 - Death of MJDgoldeneye (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?p=686938#post686938)
Day 2 - shortshortsarentdead lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?p=688237#post688237)
night phase 2 - death of antithesis (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?p=688795#post688795)
Day 3 - No Lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showthread.php?p=690088&posted=1#post690088)
night phase 3 - deaths of DJthefunkchris and Comradebot (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=690858&postcount=2502)
Day 4 - No lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=692995&postcount=3204)
Night Phase 4 - deaths of Wallbanger, Gabbo and DerekB and I effin rule (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=693636&postcount=3346)
Night phase 5 - death of Cappyboy (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=694194&postcount=3460)
Day 5 - Jman2K3 Lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=695109&postcount=3821)
night phase 6 - deaths of acturus, bak42 and Midnightnick (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=695689&postcount=3882)
Day 6 - Tha black phenom lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=696882&postcount=4094)
night phase 7 - deaths of The shape and Ford (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=697626&postcount=4140)
day 7 - Masterded lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=698008&postcount=4233)
night phase 8 - deaths of Destiny and Superowens (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=698751&postcount=4320)
day 8 - Gruntmark lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=699714&postcount=4418)
night phase 9 - death of Jaded (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=700150&postcount=4436)
day 9 - No lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=701139&postcount=4591)
Night phase 10 - death of the two (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=701683&postcount=4673)
day 10 - No Lynch (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=704879&postcount=5369)
night phase 11 - the death of praguepride (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=705501&postcount=5422)
day 11 - lynch of Crychon (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=706396&postcount=5526)
night phase 12 - no deaths (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=706837&postcount=5547)
day phase 12 - lynch of Bluestar (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=707636&postcount=5642)
night phase 13 - no deaths (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=708142&postcount=5681)
day phase 13 - lynch of Mr T Jobs to me (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=709447&postcount=5857)
night phase 14 - no death (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=710066&postcount=5904)
day phase 14 - lynch of Eayragt (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=711177&postcount=5986)
night phase 15 - deaths of Shadowedflames, D_W_W, Self and Clarity (http://67.19.230.90/~arles/forum/showpost.php?p=711805&postcount=6020)

GAME ON!

[panix04]

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

There also be several presidential campaigners trying to win your votes for tonight's election listen carefully to what they say. Your vote could be crucial!

[ShortShortsarentdead]

oops

[ShortShortsarentdead]

can we vote for killings now ?????

[panix04]

Yes, the ability to lynch is active.

[ShortShortsarentdead]

well that set me up.
Might as well keep going
VOTE:Self

[SuperOwens]

Morning all. Holiday starts Saturday, so should be about today and Friday.

[Midnightnick]

Is this the real life, or is just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality, open your eyes and look up to the skies and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Vote: DJthefunkchris

I'll hit you where the wind blows, it doesn't really matter to me.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

Self: 1 (shortshortsarentdead)
DJthefunkchris: 1 (midnightnick)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[ShortShortsarentdead]

I think that ShortShorts is gonna win how bout' you?

[djthefunkchris]

I think that ShortShorts is gonna win how bout' you?

can we vote for killings now ?????

well that set me up.
Might as well keep going
VOTE:Self

:eek:

[djthefunkchris]

Is this the real life, or is just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality, open your eyes and look up to the skies and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Vote: DJthefunkchris

I'll hit you where the wind blows, it doesn't really matter to me.

I thought Panix was the queen? Boy, things have changed around here.

[ShortShortsarentdead]

:eek:

Yeah I just did that

[Midnightnick]

I thought Panix was the queen? Boy, things have changed around here.

With the amount of female and gay roles I've gotten over the games, I've pretty much become Princess Midnight Friggin' Nick. :D

[ShortShortsarentdead]

Is that a good or bad thing?

[SuperOwens]

How is Freddie classed as sci-fi?

[ShortShortsarentdead]

Because Freddie is that cool.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Here I Am, Rock You Like A Hurricane.

[Midnightnick]

How is Freddie classed as sci-fi?

I'm one of the Princes of the Universe obviously.

:cool:

[ShortShortsarentdead]

Here I Am, Rock You Like A Hurricane.

Yes but whats your reply to this George Bush press conference quote?

"I believe the most solemn duty of the American president is to protect the American people. If America shows uncertainty and weakness in this decade, the world will drift toward tragedy. This will not happen on my watch. "
HMM HMM?

[SuperOwens]

I'm one of the Princes of the Universe obviously.

:cool:

Would have thought that would have been Duncan, you know from the clan McCloud.

[machinesxe]

There is another noise, this time a different sound. The sound of somebody being kicked. Not just kicked, but kicked hard. The Doctor falls to the ground mortally wounded. But who could kick that hard? And make good his escape as fast as lightning?


I believe this is Chuck Norris. I don't know why but it just seems like a Norris joke.

[djthefunkchris]

I believe this is Chuck Norris. I don't know why but it just seems like a Norris joke.

Vote: machinesxe

For trying to say Chuck Norris would be a bad guy!

[machinesxe]

Vote: machinesxe

For trying to say Chuck Norris would be a bad guy!

I didn't say he was a bad guy...Damn dude. Calm down, you should have already known I was hinting to Doctor Who not being on the right side...He was only town alligned not Norris alligned. Damn dude... You know all Norris does is right and is good for all... For your lack of NorrisKnowledge you must be hung...

Vote:djthefunkchris

[ShortShortsarentdead]

Chuck Norris isn't a good guy either hes a Chuck Norris Induvidual.

[djthefunkchris]

Chuck Norris isn't a good guy either hes a Chuck Norris Induvidual.

I was thinking about the making his get-away at lightning speed comment. Sounded like a superpower.

[djthefunkchris]

I didn't say he was a bad guy...Damn dude. Calm down, you should have already known I was hinting to Doctor Who not being on the right side...He was only town alligned not Norris alligned. Damn dude... You know all Norris does is right and is good for all... For your lack of NorrisKnowledge you must be hung...

Vote:djthefunkchris

ChangeVote: No Vote

I was just joking with you.

[ShortShortsarentdead]

I was thinking about the making his get-away at lightning speed comment. Sounded like a superpower.

sorry your wrong so ill have to vote aginast you
I think we all know the Chuck Norris rules.
CHANGEVOTE: djthefunkchris

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 3 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[SeanMcFly]

Uhh Panix /Bats Eyes Harmlessly

You Misspelled my Name, at the beginning :p

[SeanMcFly]

Just thought I'd give a little notice, I'm on the road from 8 AM until probably 3 PM so thought I'd tell you just so I'm not AWOL.

[panix04]

:o oops! Don't you like MvFly as a surname? :D

[The Shape]

Vote; djthefunkchris

I like the idea of something so innocuous outing scum, and I don't like the way he changed his vote and said he was just joking, which was apparent to all

[ShortShortsarentdead]

me to from 9:30 to about anywhere from 6:30 to 11

[ShortShortsarentdead]

Yeah and Chris isn't funky at all.
KILL THE LIER!

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 4 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead, the shape)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[SeanMcFly]

:o oops! Don't you like MvFly as a surname? :D

MvFly, lol.

Not a big fan :D

[ShortShortsarentdead]

What walks down stairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a slinkity sound?
A spring, a spring, a marvelous thing! Everyone knows it's Slinky.
It's Slinky, it's Slinky. For fun it's a wonderful toy.
It's Slinky, it's Slinky. It's fun for a girl or a boy.
It's fun for a girl or a boy.

[Self]

Phew. For a moment there I thought I was in trouble.

[djthefunkchris]

Vote; djthefunkchris

I like the idea of something so innocuous outing scum, and I don't like the way he changed his vote and said he was just joking, which was apparent to all

I figure I make it through today, and it will be obvious I am a good guy. However, it's not a given I would make it through the night either.

Killing me is going to just tick the town off, and make other's glee with joy.

[djthefunkchris]

And it was obvious Machine was joking as well.

[ShortShortsarentdead]

Read The Chuck Norris Rules!

[Actarus]

Whoa! Game started!

Poor dj, but boy am I glad to wake up to three pages instead of 30. :p


I believe this is Chuck Norris. I don't know why but it just seems like a Norris joke.

Is Chuck Norris in panix's sci-fi mod?

Then again, I'm assuming all our roles come from that mod, which could be an erroneous assumption on my part.

So my role dictates that I campaign for the presidency on this first day. Ironic, in that in real life: 1.) I strongly dislike politics as a whole, as most politicians I meet I distrust instantly, and 2.) though I live and was raised in the states, I was born in Canada so I couldn't be president even if I wanted to be (which I don't).

But that's real life, not my role, so why I should become your new president...

1.) I'm a good guy.

2.) I'll be active.

Really, that's all I can think of. So vote for Actarus to be your new president tonight,...


Actarus...Change we can believe in.

[moon_lit_tears]

I say lynch them all now and let Panix sort them out

vote EVERYONE Just kidding :D

[panix04]

i'm going to discount that vote - as my tiny brain cannot comprehend it and just to clarify all these roles where taken from the updated version of the sci-fi mod, which is unreleased (because it isn't finished, much to the annoyance of 'taker!) which means I have in excess of 1500 people to have chosen from. You can download the TEW07 version of the mod if you want to get some ideas of potential characters.

[The Shape]

And it was obvious Machine was joking as well.

Doesn't mean I am =D

And this whole president thing...Hmm. Will have to see how many candidates there are. Some may be scum who still have to go for it day one...

[ShortShortsarentdead]

canidate? president? what who what is this!

[djthefunkchris]

canidate? president? what who what is this!

You didn't read the phase? Why not?

[Arrows]

Welcome back DJ.

[djthefunkchris]

Welcome back DJ.

Panix is paying me enough, that I don't have to work for a couple of days:)

Too bad I didn't get one of the character's I made for the mod, lol.

[Derek B]

Morning all, good to see the random Day 1 votes haven't swung my way yet. And yes, I know that saying that will make the cleverest ones among you vote for me. :p

[Antithesis]

Anybody here like football? NFL season about to start.

[cappyboy]

I was thinking about the making his get-away at lightning speed comment. Sounded like a superpower.

Okay. Looks like time for me to pop in and start here.

I tend to agree with this analysis. Sounds to me more like someone like The Flash or that cute Daphne chick from the last season of Heroes I bothered to watch. Depending of course on which side you put Dr. Who. I know where it seems like he ought to be. But that's coming from someone who's never watched the show and wouldn't know if the good Doc might have had to play double agent for any kind of consideration-worthy time.

Anyway, between the ligntning speed reference and the little fact that Force = Mass x Acceleration, who could really kick harder than a super speedster? And before it's mentioned to me, I know the write-up suggests a male attacker. I reference Daphne as she's the first evil speedster who comes to mind. If my first impression on this holds up, the speedster could easily be from either some obscure cult classic or be from something that was just out. Either way, it would be out of my likely ability to know the character.

[djthefunkchris]

Okay. Looks like time for me to pop in and start here.

I tend to agree with this analysis. Sounds to me more like someone like The Flash or that cute Daphne chick from the last season of Heroes I bothered to watch. Depending of course on which side you put Dr. Who. I know where it seems like he ought to be. But that's coming from someone who's never watched the show and wouldn't know if the good Doc might have had to play double agent for any kind of consideration-worthy time.

Anyway, between the ligntning speed reference and the little fact that Force = Mass x Acceleration, who could really kick harder than a super speedster? And before it's mentioned to me, I know the write-up suggests a male attacker. I reference Daphne as she's the first evil speedster who comes to mind. If my first impression on this holds up, the speedster could easily be from either some obscure cult classic or be from something that was just out. Either way, it would be out of my likely ability to know the character.

I never seen Dr. Who, but I wasn't going by what I thought he was... I was strictly looking at the write up.


Graveyard:

39) Panix04 is dead he was President David Palmer Town aligned, first black president
40) Arrows is dead he was Doctor Who Town aligned, enigmatic, selfless timelord

Selfless indicates a non-selfish attitude. This guy seems to me like a good guy. IF anyone does watch the show, perhaps you can enlighten us if we are to be skeptical... If not, I will continue to believe that both Who and Palmer are definately town alligned...

That and thier roles are the same color as mine... and I am VERY town alligned.

[bak42]

I can't see The Doctor being anything but town, especially since we've got his role title which says town aligned.

[SuperOwens]

Im confused.

Why are people even attempting to insinuate that Doctor Who wasn't town? Why would the write-up lie?

[bak42]

Im confused.

Why are people even attempting to insinuate that Doctor Who wasn't town? Why would the write-up lie?

I'm still trying to figure that one out myself.

[Actarus]

Anybody here like football? NFL season about to start.

Lifelong Giants fan. Considering the contract Eli just signed, I'm going to be PO'd if the Giants don't bring home another championship in his remaining time in NY.


I can't see The Doctor being anything but town, especially since we've got his role title which says town aligned.

Agreed...though...

Im confused.

Why are people even attempting to insinuate that Doctor Who wasn't town? Why would the write-up lie?

QFT, I'm confused why dj would bring this up. It just seems gratuitous to me.

Dj, are you out of practice or is there something you want to say.

[Actarus]

Blast my inability to edit. Forgot to say...

Vote for Actarus to be your new president tonight!


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

[Antithesis]

Ok, two killers, one a sniper with a gun. (is Deadshot in the Sci Fi Chaos mod?)

Another killing a townie Doctor Who with a powerful kick and super speed.

One scum group and one SK?

[djthefunkchris]

Im confused.

Why are people even attempting to insinuate that Doctor Who wasn't town? Why would the write-up lie?

Because they are bad guys?

[moon_lit_tears]

Anybody here like football? NFL season about to start.



As one of the few females that play I actually do like football. My fav team is Washington. They are playing my hometown team tonight. lol

[Antithesis]

You know what would be cool? A shape shifter in a Mafia game. Oh yeah, thats right, SIN had one of those. :D

[Actarus]

Ok, two killers, one a sniper with a gun. (is Deadshot in the Sci Fi Chaos mod?)

Another killing a townie Doctor Who with a powerful kick and super speed.

One scum group and one SK?

Possible, though tough to say. The smartly dressed man seems to indicate that the two are linked, so perhaps scum & cult / SK working together? (Scary!)

However, panix also did warn us:


-Let me emphasize an often ignored aspect of the game: The write-ups may include misleading information. Don't count on anything being completely imaginary or incorrect, but things might not be as they seem.

So it could be set up exactly as you said.


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

[Antithesis]

Possible, though tough to say. The smartly dressed man seems to indicate that the two are linked, so perhaps scum & cult / SK working together? (Scary!)

However, panix also did warn us:



So it could be set up exactly as you said.


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

Things may not be as they seem and you want our vote for President?

[Actarus]

Things may not be as they seem and you want our vote for President?

Uh...what? :confused:

[djthefunkchris]

Ok, two killers, one a sniper with a gun. (is Deadshot in the Sci Fi Chaos mod?)

Another killing a townie Doctor Who with a powerful kick and super speed.

One scum group and one SK?

Possible, though tough to say. The smartly dressed man seems to indicate that the two are linked, so perhaps scum & cult / SK working together? (Scary!)

However, panix also did warn us:



So it could be set up exactly as you said.


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

Smartly dressed man: We are all stunned and saddened by what has just happened. But we are all aware of what is at stake here. There will be a time for grieving for a great president, that time is not now. Now is the time for action. Tonight we will elect a new president. And over the course of the next few days we will endeavour to recover the missing Nuclear football and discover the presidents assassin. I for one feel that this assassination and the missing Nuclear information are intrinsically linked and if we solve one puzzle the other will solve itself. Nobody leaves this installation until we get to the bottom of this problem. We must recover that football!

Anti, were you possibly refering to the "KICK" and lightning fast guy, as being a SK?

I thought of "Black Flash" immediately. Don't know who is in the new data for SCI FI, as it's unreleased. He is the speed force's version of "Death". The only thing he could be is an SK (relating to Mafia) in my opinion, but for one thing... It would surprise the heck out of me if he was actually in this.

[The Two]

Right, game on.

So it's a kingmaker game, but we're not doing that bit til nightfall. I have some thoughts on that, but I'll wait until there are more candidates in the field. Speaking of which, anybody else want to step up and begin their campaign?

[Actarus]

Right, game on.

So it's a kingmaker game, but we're not doing that bit til nightfall. I have some thoughts on that, but I'll wait until there are more candidates in the field. Speaking of which, anybody else want to step up and begin their campaign?

Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

[Antithesis]

Smartly dressed man: We are all stunned and saddened by what has just happened. But we are all aware of what is at stake here. There will be a time for grieving for a great president, that time is not now. Now is the time for action. Tonight we will elect a new president. And over the course of the next few days we will endeavour to recover the missing Nuclear football and discover the presidents assassin. I for one feel that this assassination and the missing Nuclear information are intrinsically linked and if we solve one puzzle the other will solve itself. Nobody leaves this installation until we get to the bottom of this problem. We must recover that football!

Anti, were you possibly refering to the "KICK" and lightning fast guy, as being a SK?

I thought of "Black Flash" immediately. Don't know who is in the new data for SCI FI, as it's unreleased. He is the speed force's version of "Death". The only thing he could be is an SK (relating to Mafia) in my opinion, but for one thing... It would surprise the heck out of me if he was actually in this.

Yeah, kind of. Being a DC fan years ago when I was a kid i can recall the Flash having several super speedy villains of his own, though I can't name any of em off hand. If any of them are in the mod (and I would think a SCI FI mod had Comic book characters in it). That could be the speedster. Also may be some Marvel speedsters that were villains, though I wouldn't know, I didn't read many Marvel books.

[Antithesis]

Uh...what? :confused:

You said everything may not be as it seems, in regards to the write ups Didn't you also say that your character was suited to be elected as the next President? The first write up had someone asking to be made president as well.

Are you that guy in the write up?

[djthefunkchris]

Yeah, kind of. Being a DC fan years ago when I was a kid i can recall the Flash having several super speedy villains of his own, though I can't name any of em off hand. If any of them are in the mod (and I would think a SCI FI mod had Comic book characters in it). That could be the speedster. Also may be some Marvel speedsters that were villains, though I wouldn't know, I didn't read many Marvel books.

Perhaps this list can help for those that want to take the time to investigate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_characters_who_can_move_at_super human_speeds

Looks like a complete list of those that could possibly be that fast..> Although I would think people such as Abomination (although very strong for the kick) wouldn't be "Lightning" speed.

I think the word Lightning might even be a hint.... and I feel I should know something that would connect to that, but I haven't been able to put my finger on it.... Black Adam possibly (SHAZAM!)? Has the equivalent speed of mercury (Egyption powered).

[i effin rule]

Hi.

I was hoping this wouldn't get started until after my trip, but oh well. So a reminder, I'll be gone without internet access (as far as I know) from tomorrow until Sunday or Monday.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Blast my inability to edit. Forgot to say...

Vote for Actarus to be your new president tonight!


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

You got my vote.

Vote: Actarus

=P

[panix04]

Just to be warned any votes made at this point will be taken to be towards a lynch. The presidential election will be a secret ballot, instructions about which will be given during the nightphase. thank you.

[djthefunkchris]

Just to be warned any votes made at this point will be taken to be towards a lynch. The presidential election will be a secret ballot, instructions about which will be given during the nightphase. thank you.

This is information that probably should have been in the "Special Rules" section. Maybe add it?

[panix04]

This is information that probably should have been in the "Special Rules" section. Maybe add it?

fair point - done.

[Antithesis]

You said everything may not be as it seems, in regards to the write ups Didn't you also say that your character was suited to be elected as the next President? The first write up had someone asking to be made president as well.

Are you that guy in the write up?

Alright I'll stop beating around the bush.

The character I have, if I said his name, most of you would probably vote to lynch me, because you would think this character is either evil or has the potential to be. And yet here I am, town aligned. Not a miller or survivor.

It makes me wonder just who's good and who's bad in this game, and if there aren't more of you out there.

Then again, probably what I really have is the dreaded Shockmaster/Mystique role for this game. And that is another reason I am saying this now. I've always felt the way to handle something like this is to admit it early and let the town know the situation. That way, even if you get lynched, the town has a list of names to go on once its shown you were actually town alligned.

And for the people who will undoubtedly ask, I am Gabrial gray (panix's spelling)

i.e. Gabriel Gray

The person who eventually became Sylar on the Heroes tv show.

[djthefunkchris]

fair point - done.

I didn't say anything earlier, because I thought it might have been part of the game (some things may not be what they appear comment). With you, I never know, lol.

In either case, I would rather my name not be on either list (presidential or lynchmob). However, I can understand why some would like to put a vote on me ;).

[panix04]

RULE ADDED:
anybody criticising my woeful spelling gets a smacked bum!

[SuperOwens]

Okay, so apparently I have to make this post at least once.

So, vote for me. I can be president, yehaaaa! And all that.

Now, don't actually vote for me, I am a horrible choice as I'm going away with very limited internet access and my activity will be spotty at best.

[djthefunkchris]

Alright I'll stop beating around the bush.

The character I have, if I said his name, most of you would probably vote to lynch me, because you would think this character is either evil or has the potential to be. And yet here I am, town aligned. Not a miller or survivor.

It makes me wonder just who's good and who's bad in this game, and if there aren't more of you out there.

Then again, probably what I really have is the dreaded Shockmaster/Mystique role for this game. And that is another reason I am saying this now. I've always felt the way to handle something like this is to admit it early and let the town know the situation. That way, even if you get lynched, the town has a list of names to go on once its shown you were actually town alligned.

And for the people who will undoubtedly ask, I am Gabrial gray (panix's spelling)

i.e. Gabriel Gray

The person who eventually became Sylar on the Heroes tv show.

I guess I know what ability you have... I think.

I never watched the show, but just took the fast way through wiki. Very glad I'm not one from that show.

You are saying your town alligned? So, I would imagine that the time period for you would put you around the time period when he was trying to be good?

Or you will obviously turn when the right person shows up on your doorstep (Here that watcher types?).

The power you possibly wield could be amazing I suppose, especially in a game like this.

[Self]

Alright I'll stop beating around the bush.

The character I have, if I said his name, most of you would probably vote to lynch me, because you would think this character is either evil or has the potential to be. And yet here I am, town aligned. Not a miller or survivor.

It makes me wonder just who's good and who's bad in this game, and if there aren't more of you out there.

Then again, probably what I really have is the dreaded Shockmaster/Mystique role for this game. And that is another reason I am saying this now. I've always felt the way to handle something like this is to admit it early and let the town know the situation. That way, even if you get lynched, the town has a list of names to go on once its shown you were actually town alligned.

And for the people who will undoubtedly ask, I am Gabrial gray (panix's spelling)

i.e. Gabriel Gray

The person who eventually became Sylar on the Heroes tv show.

Well, that's one way to let Cult recruiters know you're available...

[djthefunkchris]

RULE ADDED:
anybody criticizing my woeful spelling gets a smacked bum!

:cool:

[djthefunkchris]

Well, that's one way to let Cult recruiters know you're available...

Upon more reading, it seems this character works alone.. So it might be some sort of event, or just time passing, I don't know. I can't help to think he might have wanted to wait on this information.... unless he already shows up evil *(Miller role).

[panix04]

:cool:

That was kind of the joke!

[djthefunkchris]

That was kind of the joke!

What is it with you guys? Everyone only has a sense of humor for their own jokes????

[Antithesis]

Well, that's one way to let Cult recruiters know you're available...

You think a cult leader would assume some people aren't available to be recruited?

Why would you think that? To make that assumption would would have to have, well, hidden knowledge about cults in the game.

[panix04]

What is it with you guys? Everyone only has a sense of humor for their own jokes????

As long as that is clear! :D

[The Two]

Okay, so apparently I have to make this post at least once.

So, vote for me. I can be president, yehaaaa! And all that.

Now, don't actually vote for me, I am a horrible choice as I'm going away with very limited internet access and my activity will be spotty at best.

So that's two. I wonder how many more there are. And if SO "had to post this once" I wonder what will happen to any candidates who no show.

[Self]

Upon more reading, it seems this character works alone.. So it might be some sort of event, or just time passing, I don't know. I can't help to think he might have wanted to wait on this information.... unless he already shows up evil *(Miller role).

With any game this big, I expect some kind of evil recruiting Cult to be afoot. Here I expect some kind of Masters of Evil type stable, a wretched hive of scum and villainy that seeks to OVERTHROW THE EARTH!!!

Most of my experience with Cults is that only certain characters are susceptible to recruitment, and Sylar is pretty easy to manipulate much of the time.

P.S. Unlike several Heroes Forums I've lurked on, I'm 100% anti-Sylar. Effective heel, sure, but I hate the jerk and want him to die.

[Antithesis]

With any game this big, I expect some kind of evil recruiting Cult to be afoot. Here I expect some kind of Masters of Evil type stable, a wretched hive of scum and villainy that seeks to OVERTHROW THE EARTH!!!

Most of my experience with Cults is that only certain characters are susceptible to recruitment, and Sylar is pretty easy to manipulate much of the time.

P.S. Unlike several Heroes Forums I've lurked on, I'm 100% anti-Sylar. Effective heel, sure, but I hate the jerk and want him to die.

So you also have a character with a potential dark side?

[djthefunkchris]

With any game this big, I expect some kind of evil recruiting Cult to be afoot. Here I expect some kind of Masters of Evil type stable, a wretched hive of scum and villainy that seeks to OVERTHROW THE EARTH!!!

Most of my experience with Cults is that only certain characters are susceptible to recruitment, and Sylar is pretty easy to manipulate much of the time.

P.S. Unlike several Heroes Forums I've lurked on, I'm 100% anti-Sylar. Effective heel, sure, but I hate the jerk and want him to die.

Coming from you, that's concern for thought.

I have another concern that has been going on since Actarus campaign speach. I'm going to hold on to that concern for now, and see what transpires out of today.. Also curious to see where people's votes go.. especially those seeking office.

[Actarus]

You got my vote.

Vote: Actarus

=P

Why I oughta...I oughta...:p

Vote for President: Tha Black Phenom

Oh wait,...:p

[Derek B]

Alright I'll stop beating around the bush.

The character I have, if I said his name, most of you would probably vote to lynch me, because you would think this character is either evil or has the potential to be. And yet here I am, town aligned. Not a miller or survivor.

It makes me wonder just who's good and who's bad in this game, and if there aren't more of you out there.

Then again, probably what I really have is the dreaded Shockmaster/Mystique role for this game. And that is another reason I am saying this now. I've always felt the way to handle something like this is to admit it early and let the town know the situation. That way, even if you get lynched, the town has a list of names to go on once its shown you were actually town alligned.

And for the people who will undoubtedly ask, I am Gabrial gray (panix's spelling)

i.e. Gabriel Gray

The person who eventually became Sylar on the Heroes tv show.

VOTE: Antithesis

Sylar is a killing machine with a lust for powers and some serious issues. He's made some attempts to not be the big bad, but ultimately he's evil to the core and will kill anyone in order to get their power. Ain't no way I'm going to buy him as town and since it's Day 1, I have no qualms about throwing a vote down on him.

[Antithesis]

VOTE: Antithesis

Sylar is a killing machine with a lust for powers and some serious issues. He's made some attempts to not be the big bad, but ultimately he's evil to the core and will kill anyone in order to get their power. Ain't no way I'm going to buy him as town and since it's Day 1, I have no qualms about throwing a vote down on him.

But I ain't Sylar, I'm Gabriel Gray. And not to toot my own horn, but I am also a pretty good player, I'd say I do better as a townie than scum.

Despite that, I find the kneejerk vote troubling. I haven't even said what my ability is yet, and here people are, trying to paint a picture of a game being one way, character switches, cults etc, when none of that has been shown to be true.

I mean, if some of you know that there are cults, or something in the game that can turn people evil, then say so. But don't use supposition as proof, especially when I haven't even told you what I can and can't do in the game.

[masterded]

Is happy to see dj is back.

Sees how fast the game is going.

Damn you DJ. :D

[Self]

So you also have a character with a potential dark side?

Not on the same scale as you, but... little bit, yeah.

VOTE: Antithesis

Sylar is a killing machine with a lust for powers and some serious issues. He's made some attempts to not be the big bad, but ultimately he's evil to the core and will kill anyone in order to get their power. Ain't no way I'm going to buy him as town and since it's Day 1, I have no qualms about throwing a vote down on him.

Since Anti spilled the beans the way he did, I have just enough qualms to not get vote-happy just yet. Otherwise I agree with you completely. Evil, evil, evil.

However... Evolution of characters... Interesting idea. Personally I'm fully formed, but maybe someone else has a character that has a journey before he becomes who he is destined to be... Might go a way toward corroborating Anti's claim of an innocent Sylar.

[shigakai]

VOTE: Antithesis

Your getting really defensive by derek-b's vote. Im not sure about this vote, but wont hurt that much to throw down a vote on the first day phase.

[Actarus]

And for the people who will undoubtedly ask, I am Gabrial gray (panix's spelling)

i.e. Gabriel Gray

The person who eventually became Sylar on the Heroes tv show.

This...is quite an early reveal. I think I'll sit and think about this. This may be blasphemy to some, and considering what a comic book nerd I am, shocking as well, but I don't watch Heroes, so I'm going to see what google tells me.


So that's two. I wonder how many more there are. And if SO "had to post this once" I wonder what will happen to any candidates who no show.

If it's anything like my role, there's no post limitations per se; My role says I have to campaign for the presidency on day one, no minimum / maximum posts or what not.

Alright, time to cook and see if this recipe I dreamed up in my head works. Be back sometime tonight.

[djthefunkchris]

Is happy to see dj is back.

Sees how fast the game is going.

Damn you DJ. :D

Thanks.. I think. Oh, Your avator...? Did you just play in a MJD game or something?

[Self]

I mean, if some of you know that there are cults, or something in the game that can turn people evil, then say so. But don't use supposition as proof, especially when I haven't even told you what I can and can't do in the game.

Fair enough. My belief in a cult is just an educated guess. I'd say 87% of mafia I've played has had a Cult in it. It's pretty common, why wouldn't it be in a game planned for 40+ players?

I'm not doubting your claim, I just question the wisdom of your opening gambit.

[masterded]

Thanks.. I think. Oh, Your avator...? Did you just play in a MJD game or something?

I have no idea why I changed it.

[djthefunkchris]

I have no idea why I changed it.

Fair enough. I will look into it.

So, how have you been, and who do you think is scum (besides the obvious).

[Derek B]

But I ain't Sylar, I'm Gabriel Gray. And not to toot my own horn, but I am also a pretty good player, I'd say I do better as a townie than scum.

Despite that, I find the kneejerk vote troubling. I haven't even said what my ability is yet, and here people are, trying to paint a picture of a game being one way, character switches, cults etc, when none of that has been shown to be true.

I mean, if some of you know that there are cults, or something in the game that can turn people evil, then say so. But don't use supposition as proof, especially when I haven't even told you what I can and can't do in the game.

So you are Sylar BEFORE the TV show began? So you have no powers at all, given that he only gains them by KILLING people in the show and playing around with their brains in order to understand how their power works.

Sorry dude, just not buying into Sylar being anything other than scum without a good explanation. And if your power isn't related to your power in the show, I won't even buy your claim.

Your character (in the show) is basically powerless until he starts killing people to steal their powers. That's gonna need quite some fudging to get a power that is anything other than that, but I'm willing to listen. And bear in mind... I know the subject matter for that particular area AND a lot of mafia mechanics. It ain't kneejerk. :cool:

[masterded]

Fair enough. I will look into it.

So, how have you been, and who do you think is scum (besides the obvious).

Good. It is day one time to read what people say and start getting feelings not the day to call someone scum (unless they **** up big time).

[djthefunkchris]

So you are Sylar BEFORE the TV show began? So you have no powers at all, given that he only gains them by KILLING people in the show and playing around with their brains in order to understand how their power works.

Sorry dude, just not buying into Sylar being anything other than scum without a good explanation. And if your power isn't related to your power in the show, I won't even buy your claim.

Your character (in the show) is basically powerless until he starts killing people to steal their powers. That's gonna need quite some fudging to get a power that is anything other than that, but I'm willing to listen. And bear in mind... I know the subject matter for that particular area AND a lot of mafia mechanics. It ain't kneejerk. :cool:

If the wiki is right.. this is somewhat false, although Sylas doesn't realise it untill way later in the series... I wonder what kind of shuffle Panix has thrown in on it.

[djthefunkchris]

Good. It is day one time to read what people say and start getting feelings not the day to call someone scum (unless they **** up big time).

Sorry... Old habits and such. Nervous?

[shigakai]

If the wiki is right.. this is somewhat false, although Sylas doesn't realise it untill way later in the series... I wonder what kind of shuffle Panix has thrown in on it.

Chang Vote: No vote

Yeah, I shouldnt put down a vote for antithesis until we can get more answers out of him.

[Tha Black Phenom]

VOTE: Antithesis

Your getting really defensive by derek-b's vote. Im not sure about this vote, but wont hurt that much to throw down a vote on the first day phase.

I'd have to ponder what you think he must do.

Derek, I'm sure Panix must've thrown a curveball in there somehow, judging by the alter-ego situation going on there. Probably a lot of curveballs around character-wise if anything.

[djthefunkchris]

Chang Vote: No vote

Yeah, I shouldnt put down a vote for antithesis until we can get more answers out of him.

Well, since he is all out in the open, perhaps the thing that would change him, won't happen (especially without us noticing). Perhaps that is why he wanted it out in the open as well.. Kind of manipulation on his part, to keep him on the "good" side for as long as possible.

[masterded]

Sorry... Old habits and such. Nervous?

Nope, no reason to be it is day 1. Though it would suck to die night 1. But, that has only happen to me once like game number 2.

[shigakai]

Well, since he is all out in the open, perhaps the thing that would change him, won't happen (especially without us noticing). Perhaps that is why he wanted it out in the open as well.. Kind of manipulation on his part, to keep him on the "good" side for as long as possible.

That is a very good theory, so Antithesis, maybe you could tell us what you do?

[Antithesis]

VOTE: Antithesis

Your getting really defensive by derek-b's vote. Im not sure about this vote, but wont hurt that much to throw down a vote on the first day phase.

I disagree with the characterization of 'defensive'.

I think of it more as 'argumentative'. Which is a big reason why I play, to argue. Some people found it annoying because I could be really petty about it, but I think with recent events and all I have matured some as a person.

It isn't like I didn't expect to be voted on, I anticipated it. But that doesn't mean I have to approve of the of hypothetical scenarios and situations being used as proof. Especially on day 1.

If in a few phases there is proof of some nefarious group turning characters into evil then, by all means, lynch Gabriel Gray.

Or barring that, maybe think on this. There is something else in the game that required a townie role to complete. But, to be kept secret, that townie role had to be a character only a fool would publicly proclaim as having.

But for me, I got scum roles the last two or three games i played in. I am tired of hiding, ducking, and making up stories. Now I have a townie alignment and I can play my townie game, but I know at some point my character is going to cause drama. That is a given considering my ability and that's the nature of the Shockmaster/Mystique role as well, which I am assuming I have for this game.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 4 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead, the shape)
Acturus: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)
Antithesis: 1 (Derek B)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Antithesis]

So you are Sylar BEFORE the TV show began? So you have no powers at all, given that he only gains them by KILLING people in the show and playing around with their brains in order to understand how their power works.

Sorry dude, just not buying into Sylar being anything other than scum without a good explanation. And if your power isn't related to your power in the show, I won't even buy your claim.

Your character (in the show) is basically powerless until he starts killing people to steal their powers. That's gonna need quite some fudging to get a power that is anything other than that, but I'm willing to listen. And bear in mind... I know the subject matter for that particular area AND a lot of mafia mechanics. It ain't kneejerk. :cool:

That's incorrect. Gabriel Gray's ability is called intuitive aptitude. He can know things by looking at them.

That said, I don't go out at night to look at things.

[Antithesis]

That's incorrect. Gabriel Gray's ability is called intuitive aptitude. He can know things by looking at them.

That said, I don't go out at night to look at things.

I should add, to be perfectly clear, I don't go out at night at all.

[shigakai]

I should add, to be perfectly clear, I don't go out at night at all.

So u do your abilities during the day?

[Antithesis]

So u do your abilities during the day?

If I say yes, then I am probably a dead man, as scum would probably want to kill me, despite my character being lynch bait. All I can really tell you is to trust me, and that I trust DJ.

[Self]

Re-reading and... Anti, if you're a townie, who (I'm assuming) comes up townie, why in blazes would you come out of the homicidal killing machine closet? Sure, doings may transpire down the line, but that's... Seems like an odd move.

[The Shape]

I really don't get this as a move if you're town. Because you've outed yourself knowing full well that this will become the main topic of discussion and, if you are townie, lead to a huge amount of time being wasted and a possible mislynch. It'll mean that everything you say will be hugely under the mic and basically make it extremely difficult for you to contribute positively to the town effort when you could have done a lot of good with all of us none the wiser before crossing the controversy bridge when it became necessary...if it even did become necessary.

Not saying I'm sure you're scum, but either way I really don't like this.

[The Two]

If it's anything like my role, there's no post limitations per se; My role says I have to campaign for the presidency on day one, no minimum / maximum posts or what not.

Alright, time to cook and see if this recipe I dreamed up in my head works. Be back sometime tonight.
I didn't mean to say he was only allowed to say it once, just that he was required to declare his candidacy at least once. If you "have to campaign on day one", then you are required, if you do nothing else, to make one "Vote for Me" post.

That's incorrect. Gabriel Gray's ability is called intuitive aptitude. He can know things by looking at them.

That said, I don't go out at night to look at things.
But you do go out at night?

[The Two]

Bah, way to slow, ignore the last bit.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Agreed with Shape, but either way I don't think Derek will let off him anytime soon /shrugs

Change Vote: No Vote

[The Two]

If I say yes, then I am probably a dead man, as scum would probably want to kill me, despite my character being lynch bait. All I can really tell you is to trust me, and that I trust DJ.

But does DJ trust you?

[Antithesis]

Re-reading and... Anti, if you're a townie, who (I'm assuming) comes up townie, why in blazes would you come out of the homicidal killing machine closet? Sure, doings may transpire down the line, but that's... Seems like an odd move.

Actarus stressing on "things may not be as they seem" made me think perhaps i wasn't the only one in this predicament. Then i really started thinking about the character and all and I think I could see why the mods did it, honestly a possible group that could turn townies into evil didn't even occur to me. Because I think this character was meant as a kind of test for the town and for the person playing him.

I don't think the mods would expect Gabriel to out himself day one, but the alternative is me playing the game in a style I don't like. Meaning posting less, not challenging folks, trying to avoid any attention. That happens, and then later on I think it would be harder to believe me. Not to mention that is not how I like to play.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 4 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead, the shape)
Antithesis: 1 (Derek B)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Midnightnick]

Lifelong Giants fan. Considering the contract Eli just signed, I'm going to be PO'd if the Giants don't bring home another championship in his remaining time in NY.




Agreed...though...



QFT, I'm confused why dj would bring this up. It just seems gratuitous to me.

Dj, are you out of practice or is there something you want to say.

I cannot lynch a fellow Giants fan Act. :D

And Anti, you're pulling off a mighty big gambit here if you're scum and trying to clear yourself of it by claiming day one, but.

I trust you in this case.

[djthefunkchris]

But does DJ trust you?

Somewhat yes, somewhat no.. For now yes. Looks to me like a great ability to have on our side right now.

[Derek B]

My vote will be staying where it is for a long time, whether others decide to join it or not.

Sylar is never a good guy character in the show, he just briefly tries to be. If this is PRE-TV era then he's literally a nobody. Any time after that then he's a homicidal power craving maniac who will stop at nothing for more power. So why he'd be at a convention to try and stop the end of the world makes no sense...

But rather than try to waste the phase banging on about it, since you all know much of this already, I'm going to be happily waiting on the rest of the presidential candidate to make themselves known. Bet there's gonna be at least one scum on there and that should be pretty handy for us... and in the event of a townie one being dead, I bet there is STILL scum on there. So that list is going to be an excellent source of scum hunting material for us all. :)

[djthefunkchris]

I cannot lynch a fellow Giants fan Act. :D

And Anti, you're pulling off a mighty big gambit here if you're scum and trying to clear yourself of it by claiming day one, but.

I trust you in this case.

Can you give me a sliver of reason why you trust him, because there is one reason if you do, why I don't trust you.

[Actarus]

Okay, I'm letting veggies saute at the moment

So dj, what's the deal here?

[Antithesis]

I really don't get this as a move if you're town. Because you've outed yourself knowing full well that this will become the main topic of discussion and, if you are townie, lead to a huge amount of time being wasted and a possible mislynch. It'll mean that everything you say will be hugely under the mic and basically make it extremely difficult for you to contribute positively to the town effort when you could have done a lot of good with all of us none the wiser before crossing the controversy bridge when it became necessary...if it even did become necessary.

Not saying I'm sure you're scum, but either way I really don't like this.

Not trying to argue here, but traditionally, what important stuff is there for the town to focus on day 1? Actually i recall plenty of folks saying day 1 is a waste for the town. Personally i don't feel that way, but I do think its better for me and the town to share this now rather than later.

[The Two]

Somewhat yes, somewhat no.. For now yes. Looks to me like a great ability to have on our side right now.

Okay, the way he dropped your name, I just wanted to see if there was some connection there.

You say it's a "great ability" but... we don't know what his ability is yet.

[djthefunkchris]

Not trying to argue here, but traditionally, what important stuff is there for the town to focus on day 1? Actually i recall plenty of folks saying day 1 is a waste for the town. Personally i don't feel that way, but I do think its better for me and the town to share this now rather than later.

You know I think that's debateable... but we never agree on that, so..

Okay, I'm letting veggies saute at the moment

So dj, what's the deal here?

All I can say is look at the hints, actions, and reactions (or lack there of).

[Midnightnick]

Can you give me a sliver of reason why you trust him, because there is one reason if you do, why I don't trust you.

If he's telling the truth about who he is and he's on the town's side? Then clearly he's trusted.

If he's homicidal Sylar and people start turning up dead while their powers get taken, then we know where to turn to rid the menace.

Pretty simple logic if you ask me DJ.

[djthefunkchris]

If he's telling the truth about who he is and he's on the town's side? Then clearly he's trusted.

If he's homicidal Sylar and people start turning up dead while their powers get taken, then we know where to turn to rid the menace.

Pretty simple logic if you ask me DJ.

But not going to take his advice, since you trust him?

[djthefunkchris]

If he's telling the truth about who he is and he's on the town's side? Then clearly he's trusted.

If he's homicidal Sylar and people start turning up dead while their powers get taken, then we know where to turn to rid the menace.

Pretty simple logic if you ask me DJ.

I cannot lynch a fellow Giants fan Act. :D

And Anti, you're pulling off a mighty big gambit here if you're scum and trying to clear yourself of it by claiming day one, but.

I trust you in this case.

But not going to take his advice, since you trust him?

Or do you not trust him?

[Slim Jim]

4 pages in 10 hours, I must say I'm surprised :p

But then that has been through the day in the middle of the week, hopefully I'll be around for the burst of activity when all the American folk get in from work and such, and all the Brits are here in the evening time.

Not overly comfortable with this Sylar... sorry, Gabriel Gray claim but then that's obvious. Heh, I guess it makes it easier to spot if something changes with him. Just that someone claiming a pretty major villain, that isn't Miller/Survivor so in theory comes up town when investigated... Sounds a bit like Solidus Snake to me. If it wasn't an experienced player, I'd probably jump on this but as it is, watching and waiting seems to be a better path.

[Midnightnick]

Or do you not trust him?

I believe what he's claiming. Hence me trusting him at the moment.

[Antithesis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNf9rEPoc8Q

amirite?

[Antithesis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnrXiaPVeHY&feature=related

no wait. I get it now

[djthefunkchris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnrXiaPVeHY&feature=related

no wait. I get it now

That's what I thought at first, but now I'm not so sure... giving whom it is, and all though, I give all this up to confusion, and figure your right.

[Antithesis]

That's what I thought at first, but now I'm not so sure... giving whom it is, and all though, I give all this up to confusion, and figure your right.

Apparently the game is very open. I just wonder if the people pictured in the game's artwork are in the game itself. Meaning the Joker and Evil Anikin would be playing as well.

And then I wonder, did the mods maybe want to reform a lot of other bad characters seen in other games as well.

[Antithesis]

Could you take a game with an open theme but with known and notable characters and make some of the characters people would expect to be bad and make them town aligned. It would make it extremely difficult for the town to rely on the theme to win.

Would make it very easy for scum to push for mislynches.

I first thought it possible given the situation but I didn't consider the implications. Dunno if the mods went heavily into that or not, but somebody should. Would fix one of the biggest problems with themed games: certain characters are expected to be tied to certain alignments.

[djthefunkchris]

Apparently the game is very open. I just wonder if the people pictured in the game's artwork are in the game itself. Meaning the Joker and Evil Anikin would be playing as well.

And then I wonder, did the mods maybe want to reform a lot of other bad characters seen in other games as well.

There is so much to grab from. I doubt they would grab character's on purpose from other games, but it's certainly possible these characters would be in this game, as they are in the MOD.

[Slim Jim]

Given that the name of the mod, and the game, is Science Fiction Chaos, I'd be inclined to believe anything is possible. Add to that, panix created the game and, well, this could be something of a ...um... journey.

[Derek B]

Apparently the game is very open. I just wonder if the people pictured in the game's artwork are in the game itself. Meaning the Joker and Evil Anikin would be playing as well.

And then I wonder, did the mods maybe want to reform a lot of other bad characters seen in other games as well.

Ah, I was wondering who the other face on there was. I only recognised three of them immediately so thanks for clearing up the Anakin thing.

On the other hand... I doubt the rest of what you are saying. I'm very clearly on the side of good and with so many people to choose from, I find it hard to doubt anyone else is. There are numerous villains to choose from and numerous heroes too.... seems unlikely that any other mass murderers are suddenly gonna be on the side of good. :rolleyes:

[djthefunkchris]

Could you take a game with an open theme but with known and notable characters and make some of the characters people would expect to be bad and make them town aligned. It would make it extremely difficult for the town to rely on the theme to win.

Would make it very easy for scum to push for mislynches.

I first thought it possible given the situation but I didn't consider the implications. Dunno if the mods went heavily into that or not, but somebody should. Would fix one of the biggest problems with themed games: certain characters are expected to be tied to certain alignments.

If your ability is what I think it is, then it's pretty obvious why they made your character the one you are.... as it has proven to be a balance issue in the past. Perhaps telling all isn't the smartest move, and certainly isn't what the game was designed around, but since your in the open... I don't know.. there has to be a fail safe mechanism, and you might have triggered it already (roleclaiming might be the trigger). Or perhaps not.. so many variable's.

[Antithesis]

Doctor Who might not be town?
Gabriel Gray aint a bad guy?

Left is right, black is white, cats are dogs and Hulk Hogan is a good wrestler.

[djthefunkchris]

Apparently the game is very open. I just wonder if the people pictured in the game's artwork are in the game itself. Meaning the Joker and Evil Anikin would be playing as well.

And then I wonder, did the mods maybe want to reform a lot of other bad characters seen in other games as well.

Ah, I was wondering who the other face on there was. I only recognised three of them immediately so thanks for clearing up the Anakin thing.

On the other hand... I doubt the rest of what you are saying. I'm very clearly on the side of good and with so many people to choose from, I find it hard to doubt anyone else is. There are numerous villains to choose from and numerous heroes too.... seems unlikely that any other mass murderers are suddenly gonna be on the side of good. :rolleyes:

Have to agree with Derek.. If your good, then you are probably the only one with this problem (besides a miller).

Doctor Who might not be town?
Gabriel Gray aint a bad guy?

Left is right, black is white, cats are dogs and Hulk Hogan is a good wrestler.

I thought Doctor Who would be for sure Good... Can someone elaborate if I am mistaken?

[Self]

The Doctor is good. Decent bloke. Hero-type. Town aligned. I have no idea where the confusion is here.

[Comradebot]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/JodoKastTRL/BorisKiriyakin_alt8.jpg

Thuk Che womok!

[Derek B]

Doctor Who might not be town?
Gabriel Gray aint a bad guy?

Left is right, black is white, cats are dogs and Hulk Hogan is a good wrestler.

Dr Who IS/WAS town... he shows up as such, he tried to use his sonic screwdriver to help the president and there is no reason to doubt he wouldn't be town. That's ANOTHER show I know more than enough about, having watched it since I was a youngling.

If there is a villain from that show it is mostly like The Master, who in the TV show became prime minister and is likely to be in the running to be president here. Strangely enough, Sylar was in line to impersonate the president and take over the world (or near enough) in the last season of Heroes.

I can think of some others who would be scum vying for the role of president too, at least 1 from Buffy (of which I know plenty) and another from the Marvel universe. The possibilities are many and if one more person tries to say Dr Who is anything other than town, I'm gonna lose take notes on them... HARD! :p

[Antithesis]

Ah, I was wondering who the other face on there was. I only recognised three of them immediately so thanks for clearing up the Anakin thing.

On the other hand... I doubt the rest of what you are saying. I'm very clearly on the side of good and with so many people to choose from, I find it hard to doubt anyone else is. There are numerous villains to choose from and numerous heroes too.... seems unlikely that any other mass murderers are suddenly gonna be on the side of good. :rolleyes:

Well I know its a self serving argument for me to make with what I've claimed and all. And I am not saying it should prevent a vote on its own, because at this point is just as much supposition as is the idea of a cult, but I do think it would be kind of neat to have some (not all) town aligned characters not be of a good or heroic nature, at least, how they are traditionally represented in their particular medium.

We did do something like that in SIN, with the Carters.

Just in that case, it wasn't a themed game.

[Antithesis]

The Doctor Who thing was a joke.

I thought i had read someone asking if Doctor who was town earlier, and I was just ripping on that.

[Prophet]

Foreign types with the hookah pipes say
Ay oh whey oh, ay oh whey oh

I felt left out. Everyone else got a theme song. :(

Ok, two killers, one a sniper with a gun. (is Deadshot in the Sci Fi Chaos mod?)

Another killing a townie Doctor Who with a powerful kick and super speed.

One scum group and one SK?

I'm inclined to believe this as well. With the opening mentioning the gathering of different influences of power, I don't believe the good Dr. was linked to Palmer. So the sniper/mafia hitman takes out the President, and amidst the chaos (no pun intended) the swift kick serial killer (sk sk for those keeping score at home) takes out Dr. Who. If I was gonna toss around names, besides the speedster from Heroes, I'd consider Zoom (Flash nemesis).

I had other quotes, but those issues have been somewhat resolved for now, so I'm just making mental marks. *draws on his face with a crayon* :p

Anti, a question posed to you. Do you choose to do the voodoo that you do so well? Shorter answers are better, as I'm simply trying to grasp the concept, without making it overtly easy for those with ill intents to know the whole deal.

If you smellllll-la-la-la-la! What the Proph ... *tilts head and lifts hisleft eyebrow* ... is cookin'!

[Antithesis]

yes, but like everything in life, there are conditions, but that need not be elaborated upon at this time.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Vote: Antithesis

I don't see the motivation in putting Gabriel Gray in here as things stand.

As Sylar, he's universally evil. Before Sylar, he was nothing.

So, in my mind, that means he's in the game in order to become Sylar later, he's already evil now, or he's simply not here.

If worse comes to worse, we get some voting patterns to work with and we can see if this game really is crazy.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 4 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead, the shape)
Antithesis: 2 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Derek B]

With the news that I'm not going to be wenching tonight I'm going to take the chance to go catch up on an Impact or two that I've been meaning to watch. Will be through to check up on things every now and again, just to correct any trains of thought that might wildly derail while I'm not on to sort you all out. :p

[The Shape]

I've decided to trust anti is town for now. Mainly because lynching him seems like the easy way out, this game will be more interesting with him alive ;)

On the opposite end of proceedings is derek...hard guy to read IMO but I think there's a strong chance he's scum.

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Vote: Antithesis

Sorry bro, but the possibility of taking out a potentially major threat on day 1 is probably the best option we'll have today, no matter what your role title says now.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 4 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead, the shape)
Antithesis: 2 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Astil]

Going to work until 10. Just wanted to throw this out there:

Superowens = presidential candidate + yehaaaa = George W. Bush = Good Guy?

Sylar been in Arrows Heros mafia and Crych's HH Mafia, and was a bad guy both times.

Sooo...

Vote: Antithesis

[Slim Jim]

George W. Bush = Good Guy?

:eek:

:p

[Prophet]

yes, but like everything in life, there are conditions, but that need not be elaborated upon at this time.

/nod

All right, here's my thoughts on the whole good nerdy Splock repair (see what I did there?) vs. the big evil powerscalper.

It's possible he's lying, that the day one reveal is a ruse by Anti to fly under the radar by being the biggest, reddest, beepingest dot on the screen ... (beepingest is a word, right?) But Sylar was driven by power, a craving for power, a desire to be known. It assumes to mean he'd need to kill early and often. And Sylar's not some run of the mill knife throwing lunatic. His style is pretty signature. So why lay all the cards out from the get go, knowing by dawn the next morning, someone's probably gonna trip over an open skull? To me, that sounds more like a suicide play than anything brazen.

That being said, it's possible that Anti's swaying in the wind. Right now, he's town, but one wrong cuckoo, and blammo! Skull soups everywhere. I'm not discounting that. What I am saying is that people are seeing the name, connecting it to a character who has, at times, shown remorse, who has, at times, shown concern, and who may, in fact, not be the purest evil to ever walk NYC since Guilliani cleaned up the porn district.

I may be overthinking it, but it seems to easy to actually be a golden path to survival.

Ya know ... if ya smell what the Proph is cookin'. http://www.tiglath.org/yahoo/oldsmilies/big20.gif

[The Shape]

Can someone who wants anti lynched explain why they think he would have done this if he was scum? I've seen the phrase "ambitious gambit" and whatnot but I don't really by that, if it's true then fair play to the guy but it just doesn't seem like something he'd do, whereas claiming now as a town sylar seems like exactly what he'd do. Maybe that's the intention, but still, I don't buy it.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 4 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead, the shape)
Antithesis: 3 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me, Astil)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[The Shape]

change vote: no vote

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 3 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead)
Antithesis: 3 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me, Astil)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Antithesis]

Going to work until 10. Just wanted to throw this out there:

Superowens = presidential candidate + yehaaaa = George W. Bush = Good Guy?

Sylar been in Arrows Heros mafia and Crych's HH Mafia, and was a bad guy both times.

Sooo...

Vote: Antithesis

Again, not to be argumentative, but that is an inductive fallacy. You flip a coin twice and it comes up heads two times doesn't mean it will come up heads a third time.

And yeah I know, Sylar's a bad dude. But that isn't my character. All this is up for discussion because I volunteered it, and despite the fear that there will come a day when one scum player will lie and try to get one over on the town with a fake claim. How often has that ever happened with said player volunteering it himself day 1?

Some of you all remember me as scum. Am I not the guy who, as scum, only claims when asked, and am I not also the guy who runs blabbermouth early on when I am town?

Yes, I am that guy.

Not that I don't think 'Gabriel may turn into Sylar' is a bad argument. I alreadys aid I considered that when I outted myself. But saying what went on in past games is justification to vote in this game is not a good argument. I am not harping on it to be defensive, I mention it because it was the sort of thing I would look for when looking for scum.

[djthefunkchris]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 3 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead)
Antithesis: 3 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me, Astil)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

How come you can spell Midnightnick's name right here, but not in the player list?

:cool:

[Antithesis]

How come you can spell Midnightnick's name right here, but not in the player list?

:cool:

Careful, he may spank you now!

[djthefunkchris]

:rolleyes:I've decided to trust anti is town for now. Mainly because lynching him seems like the easy way out, this game will be more interesting with him alive ;)

On the opposite end of proceedings is derek...hard guy to read IMO but I think there's a strong chance he's scum.

Of course he is... thought I told you guys that in the signup thread:rolleyes:

[Astil]

Last post:

Panix, I count 4 on Anti

Indicitive fallacy works when it is a random number or condition, not a behavior based judgement decision.

Gotta go. Boss looking at me annoyed.

[panix04]

I warned you about mentioning spelling! Consider your bum smacked!

[Self]

Can someone who wants anti lynched explain why they think he would have done this if he was scum? I've seen the phrase "ambitious gambit" and whatnot but I don't really by that, if it's true then fair play to the guy but it just doesn't seem like something he'd do, whereas claiming now as a town sylar seems like exactly what he'd do. Maybe that's the intention, but still, I don't buy it.

Personally, I believe him. I think he's Gabriel Gray; townie... BUT it's one of those characters that has the potential to be REALLY dangerous, and not too helpful. Sylar isn't what you'd call a team-player, and his power... What I assume his power to be... It's either to do with killing folks (the blunt, surface explanation for what he does) or cherry picking powers, kind of like a Thief.

I'm not ready to vote on him (Self = Cautious Cat) but I understand the bandwagon.

[Wallbanger]

Can someone who wants anti lynched explain why they think he would have done this if he was scum? I've seen the phrase "ambitious gambit" and whatnot but I don't really by that, if it's true then fair play to the guy but it just doesn't seem like something he'd do, whereas claiming now as a town sylar seems like exactly what he'd do. Maybe that's the intention, but still, I don't buy it.

Most of it is on the perception that there's no canonical way for it to end well. The interpretation of events that most seem to be settling into is that Anti is corruptible/recruit-able/transmogrifiable into a town threat (or is already and is trying to establish false credibility with a Mystique defense), and by claiming in the way that he has nearly guaranteed that will occur.

So we invest watchers/trackers/etc on Anti and if he goes rogue we at least know who's had contact with him, or if he's already rogue and people end up dead that he's connected with we discover that. But that also means that other potentially critical information may slip past us because no one is sure who's covering Anti.

My gut is telling me this is much closer to a Megatron defense than a Mystique defense, to be honest.

[Slim Jim]

More out of curiosity than an actual bit of detective work... but does anyone have the SFC mod to hand? If so, what's Gabriel/Sylar's babyface rating in that?

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 3 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead)
Antithesis: 4 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me, Astil)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Wallbanger]

Careful, he may spank you now!

Maybe he's into that sort of thing. ;)

[gonvick]

Alright I'll stop beating around the bush.

The character I have, if I said his name, most of you would probably vote to lynch me, because you would think this character is either evil or has the potential to be. And yet here I am, town aligned. Not a miller or survivor.

It makes me wonder just who's good and who's bad in this game, and if there aren't more of you out there.

Then again, probably what I really have is the dreaded Shockmaster/Mystique role for this game. And that is another reason I am saying this now. I've always felt the way to handle something like this is to admit it early and let the town know the situation. That way, even if you get lynched, the town has a list of names to go on once its shown you were actually town alligned.

And for the people who will undoubtedly ask, I am Gabrial gray (panix's spelling)

i.e. Gabriel Gray

The person who eventually became Sylar on the Heroes tv show.

This is an interesting play. At first is seems somewhat credible because scum typically tries to avoid the risk and attention that this is obviously going to bring. There's a high chance of death just for claiming the character, regardless of what else is claimed. It's a bold play for scum.

It also nearly guarantees an investigation at some point, so as a scum ploy it likely only works for an important scum who shows as town. Which isn't out of the question for Sylar's skill set.

But it would be a suicidal claim if he had a killing ability. Which is the most obvious power for an evil Sylar to have. He could be something else, but if he had to be used as a hitman at some point, his distinctive killing style would be a give away. Unless one were counting on the mods to keep it hidden somehow, but that's certainly risky. And I don't see Sylar as the Don type, so the potentail need to be a hitman is a significant risk if this is a ploy.

Ultimately, the usefulness of this as a scum ploy depends on the possible details of the role, so I can't rule anything out, but I lean slightly towards believing this for now. I think Anti making this claim as town is somewhat more probable than him making it as scum.

At least those are my initial thoughts.

Of course being a good guy now doesn't preclude him from being a threat later. His ability lead him to be a power seeking killer. That could easily be a mechanic of the role that Anti isn't currently aware of. And Day 1 might be a better time to deal with that than later, depending on the specifics of what Gabriel Gray can do for us. It's basically another Anakin situation.


Chang Vote: No vote

Yeah, I shouldnt put down a vote for antithesis until we can get more answers out of him.

Jump the gun on trying to get a mislynch and then think better of it?

[djthefunkchris]

Personally, I believe him. I think he's Gabriel Gray; townie... BUT it's one of those characters that has the potential to be REALLY dangerous, and not too helpful. Sylar isn't what you'd call a team-player, and his power... What I assume his power to be... It's either to do with killing folks (the blunt, surface explanation for what he does) or cherry picking powers, kind of like a Thief.

I'm not ready to vote on him (Self = Cautious Cat) but I understand the bandwagon.

Close, so close....

[Antithesis]

Last post:

Panix, I count 4 on Anti

Indicitive fallacy works when it is a random number or condition, not a behavior based judgement decision.

Gotta go. Boss looking at me annoyed.

Really, it could be argued from the inductive fallacy that just because the sun has risen in the morning for billions of years does not mean it will rise again tomorrow morning. Just because something's happened X number of times before doesn't mean that something will happen again. And that's applied to math and science, to say nothing of a game of Mafia.

[Self]

As for "Why?" he saw his role and panicked, or weighed his options (with his role, power and details that he hasn't fully revealed to us) and saw that he had little choice in the matter. Long term strategy, perhaps. Getting the effort and annoyance of coming up with a fake claim out of the way by just 'fessing up sharpish.

[Prophet]

I warned you about mentioning spelling! Consider your bum smacked!

Figures ... all this time, I've been paying for that kind of treatment, and all I had to do was come here and ask?

Err ... I mean ... *scampers away!*

My gut is telling me this is much closer to a Megatron defense than a Mystique defense, to be honest.

Which Megatron? If I'm not mistaken (and I very well could be) there's the CC one, and Rev's I need everyone alive, half the people dead, 3 housewives, and a Buick to vote on me to lynch me defense. :p

[Wallbanger]

Oh, and just because it's become customary for me to do so in every game where we vote for an authority figure...

'Banger Again! You Know You Want To.

And yes, I mean it! And I have peanuts for everyone who votes for me! :D

[Wallbanger]

/is sorely tempted to put up a Sarah Palin avatar and post my campaign slogan again just to see who freaks out

:D

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

Oh, and just because it's become customary for me to do so in every game where we vote for an authority figure...

'Banger Again! You Know You Want To.

And yes, I mean it! And I have peanuts for everyone who votes for me! :D

Only if you're claiming [B]Tiny Lister, 5th Element Aligned President of the Universe who has nothing better to do than chill and listen to the Ruby Rhod show[/COLOR].

Or the President from Independence Day, barring the appearance of Tiny.

[Antithesis]

Quick question.

Are you all required to ask for our vote?

Someone mentioned they would expect Sylar to be a potential candidate based upon what he did in heroes, and if it is the case you guys are required to campaign, let the record reflect that i don't know anything about any campaign stuff nor have I asked for a vote or anything like that.

[The Shape]

Jump the gun on trying to get a mislynch and then think better of it?

Might be worth pursuing...

Also on sky one atm justin lee collins is apparently trying to become a wrestler in mexico in four weeks, for anyone interested :cool:

[Wallbanger]

Quick question.

Are you all required to ask for our vote?

Someone mentioned they would expect Sylar to be a potential candidate based upon what he did in heroes, and if it is the case you guys are required to campaign, let the record reflect that i don't know anything about any campaign stuff nor have I asked for a vote or anything like that.

I, for one, have no requirement to campaign. I just am because I like to, and to note the reactions of those who claim to 'have to' campaign or who are really gunning for the spot.

[Wallbanger]

Just remember, much pain and suffering could have been avoided in Simpsons if you'd just voted for the redneck. :D

[Wallbanger]

Only if you're claiming [b]Tiny Lister, 5th Element Aligned President of the Universe who has nothing better to do than chill and listen to the Ruby Rhod show[/color].

Or the President from Independence Day, barring the appearance of Tiny.

What about Zaphod Beeblebrox? Now THAT would be froody.

[Antithesis]

interesting.

Think one of the campaigners might be trying to put something over people?

[Wallbanger]

interesting.

Think one of the campaigners might be trying to put something over people?

/shrug

I won't discount the possibility yet.

[The Shape]

I, for one, have no requirement to campaign. I just am because I like to, and to note the reactions of those who claim to 'have to' campaign or who are really gunning for the spot.

I didn't realise we could do that.

Shape for president :cool:

[SeanMcFly]

Alright, Back, and no more 7 hour drives :p

Now, I'm kind of curious about Shortshorts, he seems to be posting useless stuff, so I would imagine either he's trying to divert attention away from himself, or he's playing really smart strategy, or perhaps even there's a jester in the game, so he's bringing attention TO himself...

I don't get it.

Either way, I want answers

Vote : Shortshortsarentdead

[Actarus]

For those not in the know (like myself), can anyone explain the Mystique / Shockmaster references? I know they pertain to past mafia games, but I have zero clue as to the significance of their roles. I'd like to think I'm not the only one.


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

[Wallbanger]

Mystique - role in Marvel that most people assumed would be scum based on canon, but actually turned up town when the character was lynched.

Megatron - a Day 1 defense in Cartoon Chaos that consisted of "I'm Megatron, but I'm a good guy, really I am!"; was immediately lynched and turned up scum.

[Wallbanger]

Oh, and 'Banger Again! You Know You Want To.

[Actarus]

Thanks.

So google gives me this: http://heroeswiki.com/Gabriel_Gray_%28exposed_future%29

Makes me think of the possibility that Anti is town at the moment, but under the right set of circumstances can become scum.

Also makes me wonder of the possiblity that there's Gabriel Gray, then there's Sylar as two separate roles. Wacky insanity FTW!

How this fits in with a nuclear football...no clue.

[Actarus]

Oh, and 'Banger Again! You Know You Want To.

Yes...yes, I do...and again, and again, and again...:p


Actarus...Change we can believe in. :)

[The Shape]

anti did you consider the future scumness possibility before you claimed?

[Self]

Megatron - a Day 1 defense in Cartoon Chaos that consisted of "I'm Megatron, but I'm a good guy, really I am!"; was immediately lynched and turned up scum.

Seriously? Someone did that? Maybe it just sounds ridiculous out of context.

At least Sylar has a time in his life where he wasn't evil, so it's at least conceivable that he's town. Likely? No. Permanent? Doubt it.

VOTE: Antithesis

Just... if he's lying, then he's bad in some way. If he's telling the truth, then it's only a matter of time before bad things happen. At least according to my book.

[The Shape]

Seriously? Someone did that? Maybe it just sounds ridiculous out of context.

well he did it under pressure...

[Self]

well he did it under pressure...

Fair enough, I guess.

[Antithesis]

well he did it under pressure...

The pressure of being caught not knowing the town's win condition. Or in the case of Cartoon Chaos, the townie aligned groups.

[panix04]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 3 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead)
Antithesis: 5 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me, Astil, self)
shortshortsarentdead: 1 (Sean Mcfly - not mvfly)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

[Slim Jim]

Megatron - a Day 1 defense in Cartoon Chaos that consisted of "I'm Megatron, but I'm a good guy, really I am!"; was immediately lynched and turned up scum.

Infinitely better than "I'm Solidus Snake, the don of a secondary mafia you didn't know was in the game".

[Antithesis]

anti did you consider the future scumness possibility before you claimed?

I considered the perception of such before I claimed. As far as being recruited goes, I didn't think of a cult per se, but i do recall thinking that my value to scum is diminished if I am out in the open, possibly being watched etc.

My way of thinking, I do this, i appear as lynch bait, scum won't bother with a night kill on me, and I'll get watched etc. There is more, but thats just dealing with my character claim itself.

Its a good play for me (imo) if I don't get lynched and a good play for the town. It even can work to the town's advantage if I am lynched, in that I have given you two things to follow up on (some of you get what I mean). But I do think I am of greater value alive than dead.

If there is some mechanic in the game to trun Gabriel into Sylar, then I do honestly believe that it would be kind of obvious that Sylar is now playing.

[SuperOwens]

What worries me with this, is that Antil may actually need people to target him. If you consider the character and the way he went about getting his powers, I can see a reverse student role being in play. Though they may just be brain leakage because that's the role we came up with for Bak in the last game..

I also think the "I'm town now so better get out early why the investigations come in ploy could be afoot."

[Antithesis]

/is sorely tempted to put up a Sarah Palin avatar and post my campaign slogan again just to see who freaks out

:D

When she first appeared I really despised her. No way was she ready for the national stage, and yet, there she was with a shot of becoming Vice President of the United States. Since then my opinion has changed some what. She was offered the chance at a job most people would take, and although I don't think she is the most capable politician, I don't think Palin and her family deserve all the abuse they've taken in the last year. I wouldn't vote for her, but I do think people shouldn't denigrate her like they do either.

[djthefunkchris]

Alright, Back, and no more 7 hour drives :p

Now, I'm kind of curious about Shortshorts, he seems to be posting useless stuff, so I would imagine either he's trying to divert attention away from himself, or he's playing really smart strategy, or perhaps even there's a jester in the game, so he's bringing attention TO himself...

I don't get it.

Either way, I want answers

Vote : Shortshortsarentdead

I figure he's either a mental case, a follower, or scum... haven't decided yet.

[cappyboy]

Okay, up to speed here and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the whole Anti thing yet. I am in no inclined to believe that Gabriel Gray is going to stay a safe person to have around even if he is now. But I'm not buying into either the pro or anti-Anti sides at the moment. I understand we're talking about this now because Anti's claimed already. But it feels, I don't know, almost premature. We don't even know what we do or don't know yet.

Like someone said, the title of the mod is Sci Fi CHAOS. Under normal circumstances, yes Sylar or Gabriel or whatever you want to call him is as evil as the day is long. And granted the last time we had a "Chaos" game all the toons were the alignment you would expect. But as they always say in mutal ad ads, past performance is not an indication of future results. Heck, with my own character, the kneejerk reaction would be "He's as Town as the day is long." But I am currently tied to a character I have no source relation to in such a way it would give me pause if learned from the outside looking in. So even more so than usual, I don't what to just THINK I know stuff, I want to KNOW I know it.

[Gabbo]

Infinitely better than "I'm Solidus Snake, the don of a secondary mafia you didn't know was in the game".


I dunno, the Megatron claim still attempted to convince the town he was on their side. Fantasy openly admitted he was scum and just wanted to be truthful.

[SeanMcFly]

I figure he's either a mental case, a follower, or scum... haven't decided yet.

In reality I know who he is. He's pretty stupid :p

[SeanMcFly]

Vote Count:

DJthefunkchris: 3 (midnightnick, machinesxe, shortshortsarentdead)
Antithesis: 5 (Derek B, Mjdgoldeneye, Mr T Jobs to me, Astil, self)
shortshortsarentdead: 1 (Sean Mcfly - not mvfly)

It is now Day Phase 1. You have until 10:00 EST (GMT) on August 15th to lynch. Majority is 20.

It's not that I don't like the Name MvFly, it's that i can't pronounce it :p

[Slim Jim]

I dunno, the Megatron claim still attempted to convince the town he was on their side. Fantasy openly admitted he was scum and just wanted to be truthful.

Exactly... at least Megatron tried to make out he was town. That's a better defense than claiming to be the leader of a scum group :p

[Gabbo]

Oh, I thought you were claiming better in the race to find the worst roleclaim.

[Astil]

Something that hasn't been discussed enough.

What if Anti isn't Sylar.

Well of course we'd see no brain eating or power stealing.

And as such Anti can say he's innocent from all the killings.

[The Shape]

Something that hasn't been discussed enough.

What if Anti isn't Sylar.

Well of course we'd see no brain eating or power stealing.

And as such Anti can say he's innocent from all the killings.

Well he's definitely a prominent sci fi character with a chance of being in, I'd say to claim at this stage he'd have to know sylar wasn't in for sure or know someone else was him...

[djthefunkchris]

Well he's definitely a prominent sci fi character with a chance of being in, I'd say to claim at this stage he'd have to know sylar wasn't in for sure or know someone else was him...

/nod.

Although he done this before, in a game with a similar name. He claimed not to have the same win condition as the rest of us, but insisted that didn't mean he was bad (and he was). You guys were talking about Megatron before, remember his re-action to that lynch?

But If I'm right about him.... He's definately going to be usefull till he does "trigger" whatever it is he triggers... which I have an idea on that as well.... really truely a bad predicament I think for him (and very evil of Panix... if it were not for Arrows helping I wouldn't think this route though).

[The Shape]

Although he done this before, in a game with a similar name. He claimed not to have the same win condition as the rest of us, but insisted that didn't mean he was bad (and he was).

when was that? xD

Heading to bed soon but as of now I'm slowly warming to anti's play on the assumption that he is town, that getting this out of the way now and putting him in the spotlight seems to safeguard him to an extent and make sure we've got something good out of this day. Personally don't see any need in dragging out the issue any further and we've still got what, three quarters of a day phase to play with, so does anybody else want to make a controversial claim or start a bandwagon? :o

[djthefunkchris]

when was that? xD

Cartoon Chaos.

I am inclined to believe him. He's not saying he won't turn, in fact it seems as if he expects to turn. You know he's not going to tell us, but as long as we stay alert, we should be able to notice a change.

[panix04]

I am off for the night - so if Arrows would like to do the updates it would be good, either that or we could have some unnoficial counts going. Interesting first day folks!

[cappyboy]

Personally don't see any need in dragging out the issue any further and we've still got what, three quarters of a day phase to play with, so does anybody else want to make a controversial claim or start a bandwagon? :o

Something like that. So I suggest a little game within the game. We only have two newcomers this time around and one has been posting albeit weakly in game terms so far. Let's see if we can get some speech out of the other.

Vote: Jmna2k3

[GruntMark]

Something like that. So I suggest a little game within the game. We only have two newcomers this time around and one has been posting albeit weakly in game terms so far. Let's see if we can get some speech out of the other.

Vote: Jmna2k3

He played last game.

And his internet is down. Probably just for the day.

With that being said, sounds like a waste of time.

Im not sure I would trust Anti in a game if he was on my own mason town team. Im fine if we lynch him. At least it removes the distraction or possibility of recruitment or just turning evil.

[GruntMark]

Something like that. So I suggest a little game within the game. We only have two newcomers this time around and one has been posting albeit weakly in game terms so far. Let's see if we can get some speech out of the other.

Vote: Jmna2k3

Actually, I find this play to be scummy. Hoping random newbie will drop their role to you and your mafia friends because they are too dumb to know better?

Vote: Cappyboy

[SeanMcFly]

Actually, I find this play to be scummy. Hoping random newbie will drop their role to you and your mafia friends because they are too dumb to know better?

Vote: Cappyboy

I like that, and Shortshorts doesn't seem to be replying to my call, so let's give this a run

Change Vote : Cappyboy

Let the Pressure begin...

[SeanMcFly]

I like that, and Shortshorts doesn't seem to be replying to my call, so let's give this a run

Change Vote : Cappyboy

Let the Pressure begin...

Whoops

Change Vote : Cappyboy

Fix'd

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

A bandwagon!

Change Vote: cappyboy

[ShadowedFlames]

Just remember, much pain and suffering could have been avoided in Simpsons if you'd just voted for the redneck. :D

:cool:

[Derek B]

I'm off to bed now. Catch ya'll in the morning, try not to do anything too silly while I'm gone, unless it's so silly that it's beyond awesome... doing that seems like a good idea.

And Prophet, STAY OUT MY DAMN FRIDGE!!! :p

[Clarity]

RULE ADDED:
anybody criticising my woeful spelling gets a smacked bum!Is that a promise ;P

I've read through so far, and while not sure about Anti's claim (cant see Sylar as town. Gabriel Gray was a bit of an loner), Will leave off voting till i get home tomorrow to see how things are then.

Panix - Can you post UK times as well as US for lynch times

[cappyboy]

Actually, I find this play to be scummy. Hoping random newbie will drop their role to you and your mafia friends because they are too dumb to know better?

Vote: Cappyboy

No. More like trying to test a new guy's mettle why we had time to kill. If he'd spoken up and not withered, I'd probably have backed away. Well that and not knowing his Net was out. Wouldn't be the first time scum had been caught Night 1 becuase they had a role they weren't ready for. If anyone should know how that works, you're reading him.

But if you guys would rather put me in the spotlight, that's cool. Just know I'm willing to live up to my given name and fall on my sword. In fact, considering what I'm currently carrying, I'm not sure that might not be the better contribution to the town.

[Prophet]

And Prophet, STAY OUT MY DAMN FRIDGE!!! :p

*Unscrews the lightbulb and hides it deep within the spaghetti tupperware.*

Muahahahahahahaha!

[gonvick]

Something that hasn't been discussed enough.

What if Anti isn't Sylar.

Well of course we'd see no brain eating or power stealing.

And as such Anti can say he's innocent from all the killings.

What kind of evil monster would he have to be that false claiming Sylar is the safer option?

If you're trying to fake claim to distance yourself from kills in the write ups, claiming someone else who's evil seems like a poor plan. Even if you don't get lynched for claiming an evil character, you're almost sure to attract attention at night at some point.

[cappyboy]

What kind of evil monster would he have to be that false claiming Sylar is the safer option?

If you're trying to fake claim to distance yourself from kills in the write ups, claiming someone else who's evil seems like a poor plan. Even if you don't get lynched for claiming an evil character, you're almost sure to attract attention at night at some point.

Well, keep in mind that he's not necessarily claiming Sylar. He's claiming to be the guy who eventually becomes Sylar. Kind of a nit-picky distinction in my mind and one of the reasons I'm not inclined to have much faith in him. But Anti is depending on it saving him. The shell of what you're famous for being part I believe as I have that issue too. But what else can Gray be if he doesn't blossom into Sylar?

[SeanMcFly]

*Unscrews the lightbulb and hides it deep within the spaghetti tupperware.*

Muahahahahahahaha!

/Smacks Prophet to Stop him from laughing.

:p

[Astil]

Remember, Don's investigate town.

/shrug.

[djthefunkchris]

I want to ask a couple of questions to you Cappy, but if the answer's are yes, I don't want everyone knowing. Let me put it this way.

Lynching you would probably be an extremely bad move for the town, wouldn't it? Not saying your important.

[Undertaker666]

Seven pages at 40 posts a page... on the first day?! You lot need to stay off the sugar. :p

My thoughts:

1. Antithesis is a good player and could be very helpful.
2. A role that could turn into being Sylar would be very dangerous.

1 + 2 = 3

3. Good player with a potentially very dangerous role = scary times ahead.

Vote: Antithesis

[djthefunkchris]

/Smacks Prophet to Stop him from laughing.

:p

Remember, Don's investigate town.

/shrug.

Seven pages at 40 posts a page... on the first day?! You lot need to stay off the sugar. :p

My thoughts:

1. Antithesis is a good player and could be very helpful.
2. A role that could turn into being Sylar would be very dangerous.

1 + 2 = 3

3. Good player with a potentially very dangerous role = scary times ahead.

Vote: Antithesis

Although I completely agree with your analogy, I think you need to re-read some of his hints... of course then there is the trigger part that scares me.

[Undertaker666]

there is the trigger part that scares me.

Indeed. Having played in the Heroes Mafia game, which I think Arrows did and is now a co-mod of this one, I remember all too well how much of a destructive force Sylar could be. He may not be evil now, but if/when he does turn... trouble. We don't even know just how badass he could become because it would depend on whose powers he stole. What if he takes a PGO ability, then a kill ability, then a bullet-proof ability, then a... you get the point.

If another character was role-claimed which is known to turn and be very dangerous i'd vote for them too.

[djthefunkchris]

Indeed. Having played in the Heroes Mafia game, which I think Arrows did and is now a co-mod of this one, I remember all too well how much of a destructive force Sylar could be. He may not be evil now, but if/when he does turn... trouble. We don't even know just how badass he could become because it would depend on whose powers he stole. What if he takes a PGO ability, then a kill ability, then a bullet-proof ability, then a... you get the point.

If another character was role-claimed which is known to turn and be very dangerous i'd vote for them too.

/nod, I realise that.

You did catch EVERYTHING though, right? It's very small, but it makes all the difference (to me). At least for the first couple of days.

[Astil]

Oh, were staring this carp again, DJ? :p