Nedokius 2: Battle For Everything

[Zeel1]

The world is going to end... Destiny is being a town leader and I'm not doing anything... :/

2012, ladies and gentlemen~

[djthefunkchris]

I have a feeling, if you were in Destiny's shoes right now, you would be doing just fine;)

[bak42]

Remember, that's the guy SF "needed" out of the way though. I somehow think that's how he got the unlynchable power.

/nod

[Derek B]

Night phases feel like they go on forever these days... and I don't even have anything to pimp out. So I'm just gonna suggest to everyone again that I maybe have a power role worth killing and hope that no-one sees right through this bluff for what it is and ignores me. Unless that's really what I want to happen and I DO have a power role worth killing and I'm just messing with your minds to see what happens, possibly because I want to distract from the real power roles...

Regardless, I'm off to watch a movie in a moment so I shall stop messing with your minds. :p

@DJ: I have a feeling I know who is going to be targetted tonight... in the event I'm still awake and online not long before deadline AND you're around too, would you be interested in hearing minutes before deadline who I think it is in case you agree with me and want to consider changing your target? Or would that be too weird? Let me know. :cool:

[djthefunkchris]

@DJ: I have a feeling I know who is going to be targetted tonight... in the event I'm still awake and online not long before deadline AND you're around too, would you be interested in hearing minutes before deadline who I think it is in case you agree with me and want to consider changing your target? Or would that be too weird? Let me know. :cool:

Yes, I would like to know what you think. It's not weird. I leave at 4:30pm though, central. Not sure how long the night phase is going for, it might be cutting it too far off though.

Hoping for the best, up to you really. Do what you think is best.

[djthefunkchris]

Yes, I would like to know what you think. It's not weird. I leave at 4:30pm though, central. Not sure how long the night phase is going for, it might be cutting it too far off though.

Hoping for the best, up to you really. Do what you think is best.

/nod... Looking at it, looks like 7pm eastern is cut off, I'll be at work with no internet. 7pm is 6pm here, and I'll have been gone for 1:30 minutes.

I'm not the only one though, so again, I think it's worth it, someone else might be able to "change up".

[Derek B]

/nod... Looking at it, looks like 7pm eastern is cut off, I'll be at work with no internet. 7pm is 6pm here, and I'll have been gone for 1:30 minutes.

I'm not the only one though, so again, I think it's worth it, someone else might be able to "change up".

I know what you're getting at but I'm not sure it would help... judgement calls and all, I see a tough night ahead based on the moving parts I think I can see. Um... good luck with the phase though, I think we're going to need it. :(

[djthefunkchris]

I know what you're getting at but I'm not sure it would help... judgement calls and all, I see a tough night ahead based on the moving parts I think I can see. Um... good luck with the phase though, I think we're going to need it. :(

I honestly don't expect to live through the night phase to be honest with you.... I think I'm going to be a dead duck, lol. Honestly don't think it will be by SF's hands though.

But I have my sights on trying to help other's best I can so I hope I've chosen wisely. In other words, I'm hoping my ability works before death, if I die.

There is the obvious choice, but there is the other one that is probably the brains. I'm absolutely positive they know who I'm talking about.

I'm posting all this for the same reason you did, to confuse the enemy.

[Arrows]

So you guys know:

Had something that was supposed to take an hour, take five. Bit behind on my day. Soon as dinner's done being ate, write up shall come. Hopefully shouldn't be too long.

[Derek B]

I honestly don't expect to live through the night phase to be honest with you.... I think I'm going to be a dead duck, lol. Honestly don't think it will be by SF's hands though.

But I have my sights on trying to help other's best I can so I hope I've chosen wisely. In other words, I'm hoping my ability works before death, if I die.

There is the obvious choice, but there is the other one that is probably the brains. I'm absolutely positive they know who I'm talking about.

I'm posting all this for the same reason you did, to confuse the enemy.

I don't really think my confusion tactics are going to be up to much but it's worth a punt just in case. With just a couple of minutes left to go and only 3 invisible people viewing the thread as I type, based on hints I kinda expect mach to be going down tonight...

And I'm hoping you don't go down...

And that people assume this will happen...

And expecting the worst while hoping for the best...

I don't think this is going to be a good night phase at all...

:(

Most annoyingly, I'm getting pretty tired and don't know if I'll be able to stay awake long enough for it to be posted. This will make me saddest of all.

[Arrows]

Night Phase Is Now Over.

[ShadowedFlames]

By the by, I feel obligated to tell everyone who targeted me that come the start of phase their game is over. Just another benefit of taking the God of Violence's power for my own.

[Derek B]

By the by, I feel obligated to tell everyone who targeted me that come the start of phase their game is over. Just another benefit of taking the God of Violence's power for my own.

If this is true then I'm going to be the saddest person in the universe and I'm never going to forgive Destiny for pushing a lynch onto someone who was unlikely to be around to answer any questions. But an unlynchable, PGO scummy person? There's no way Arrows would be that mean...

... would he? :o

[Derek B]

If I don't get killed then the wait is going to kill me... don't think I can stay awake much longer without wrecking my sleep for the night. I can't help thnking that Arrows is loving this...

[Arrows]

If I don't get killed then the wait is going to kill me... don't think I can stay awake much longer without wrecking my sleep for the night. I can't help thnking that Arrows is loving this...

:cool:

[Derek B]

:cool:

Don't make me come over there!! :mad::p

[Destiny]

If this is true then I'm going to be the saddest person in the universe and I'm never going to forgive Destiny for pushing a lynch onto someone who was unlikely to be around to answer any questions. But an unlynchable, PGO scummy person? There's no way Arrows would be that mean...

... would he? :o

Jman2k3 was unquestionably some form of scum. My aim is to ensure Humanity get rid of all threats, Jman2k3 was one of them. Not lynching inactives is what is causing these games to halt to general inactivity as it is, as scum simply don't show up hoping that they won't be questioned or pressured whilst they're not around.

You yourself have been very angry at my inactivity in the past, so I hope you're not being hypocritical. I assume you were joking anyway though. I like you, am going to hit the sack and read the write-up in the morn.

[Derek B]

Jman2k3 was unquestionably some form of scum. My aim is to ensure Humanity get rid of all threats, Jman2k3 was one of them. Not lynching inactives is what is causing these games to halt to general inactivity as it is, as scum simply don't show up hoping that they won't be questioned or pressured whilst they're not around.

You yourself have been very angry at my inactivity in the past, so I hope you're not being hypocritical. I assume you were joking anyway though. I like you, am going to hit the sack and read the write-up in the morn.

Yeah, I was just joking this time. There's no way anyone could've known what would've happened and it would be unreasonable of me to blame you for that. Wouldn't stop me putting a little blame on you, but pushing votes to a Destiny or Jman lynch has typically been a scum ploy at any point and even knowing that there is no way your ability could be scummy I still can't shake that feeling. Is just the way my brain works even if I know it's wrong.

[SmartBomb]

Jman2k3 was unquestionably some form of scum. My aim is to ensure Humanity get rid of all threats, Jman2k3 was one of them. Not lynching inactives is what is causing these games to halt to general inactivity as it is, as scum simply don't show up hoping that they won't be questioned or pressured whilst they're not around.

You yourself have been very angry at my inactivity in the past, so I hope you're not being hypocritical. I assume you were joking anyway though. I like you, am going to hit the sack and read the write-up in the morn.

...who are you and what have you done with Destiny?

[Derek B]

I'm in bed and my laptop battery is already close to giving up cos it's never been very good... write up has been an hour already, if ShadowedFlames is telling the truth then I'm starting to get worried that we might almost be at game over already cos I think a fair few people are going to target him and there's gonna be kills and... I don't want to go to bed before the write up, but I don't think my battery is gonna manage and I can't be bothered getting out of bed cos it's comfy in here.

[Arrows]

Night Seven

She sat alone on a tree stump, surrounded by nothing but trees and black. Lost in thought of how she could be of further use to her new friends, she hadn't heard the man approaching from wherever the hell he came from.

"Excuse me, miss."

She jumped a bit, caught off guard by the presence of the man.

"I, uh. I saw what you did, and I was kind of hoping you could help me."

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He'd lucked out every night so far, but this was going to get more difficult. Tonight would just serve as a reminder of that. He got distracted by something, and she managed to sneek up and wrap her arms around him.

It wouldn't take him long to break free and escape. That was certainly a close one though.

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He sniffed, and raised an eyebrow. He didn't expect this one to smell like them. This one wasn't like the rest of them at all. Sure, it seemed to have some human qualities, despite it's dog like form. It even moved as effectively on two legs as it did on four.

Something he'd learn first hand, as it caught his scent as well, and dropped to all fours to charge. He lifted his cane, ready to defend himself. His only accomplishment would be turning himself into a stationary target.

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"I was almost certain you lot were smart enough to not be this predictable, you know."

Fireball.

One of the white robes dove in front of the ball of fire, and was promptly carried off and his spot in the wall replaced.

"I do appreciate the effort, don't get me wrong. You're all more than welcome to show up here as often as you wish. See, I'm over here. You, aren't. I, have all of this. You, don't. Know what else you don't have?"

Confusion. Thoughts went in several different directions. A couple likely even got the question right. From behind the wall, the same mocking voice came out of hiding. "Quack."

...

Somewhere else, djthefunkchris sat with a young girl while she played. She seemed more interested by the ducky than scared. The lack of fear ended about the time he showed up. She took off running, and the duck tried to block the path, not realizing he was tha target until he'd been knocked to the ground and the blade was crossing his neck.

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djthefunkchris is dead. He was Nonnie, Humanity Aligned Guardian Of The Water Gem.

BHK1978 is dead. He was Grady, Humanity Aligned Not So Crazy Old Man.

[Destiny]

Eurgh. I resurrected djthefunkchris because I couldn't see us having any hope of winning this game without him, and the player I left my vote on yesterday, BHK1978, who I suspected of being scum, is also dead and town. I'm going to sleep on this, we need a successful lynch today though, or we could be done for. Destiny out.

[bak42]

Eurgh. I resurrected djthefunkchris because I couldn't see us having any hope of winning this game without him, and the player I left my vote on yesterday, BHK1978, who I suspected of being scum, is also dead and town. I'm going to sleep on this, we need a successful lynch today though, or we could be done for. Destiny out.

Well, the good news is, I chose to watch DJ last night.

[ShadowedFlames]

So...anyone else care to try to lynch me again? :cool:

[Arrows]

Sorry that one took so long. Doing PMs now.

[SmartBomb]

Vote: masterded

HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHH

Change Vote: machinexe

[Wallbanger]

Vote: masterded

HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHH

Change Vote: machinexe

Huh?

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase Eight. You have until 8:45 PM EST / 1:45 AM GMT, Monday April 9th / Tuesday April 10th, to reach a majority decision. With 16 players remaining, it will take 9 to reach majority.

Should be all PMs out.

[SmartBomb]

Huh?

Michgs apparently wasn't a good hide target. (Apparently I got machinexe mixed up with michgs.)

Change Vote: michgs

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT

But seriously. If we're assuming that SF is Sonia Aligned, who is the dog killer? From what we can see of the writeup, it's got a human form. This might be difficult.

Actually, if we go through potential SK'ers, there are a few options. One is eayragt, actually. Do we know anything about this guy?

[bak42]

Protector my ass.

vote: DeadCeleb

He was the only person to target DJ last night.

[machinesxe]

Huh?

Yeah tell me why you put a vote on me? Because at this point if you are voting for me you haven't been paying attentiOn or you are being down right stupid. At this point I am sure I am on of the few people left here that can help the town. If you know what I did last night then tell everyone and let's see what you reall know scum...

[SmartBomb]

Protector my ass.

vote: DeadCeleb

He was the only person to target DJ last night.

That's good enough for me.

Change Vote: DeadCeleb

ALSO JEEZ GUYS I WAS KIDDING NONE OF YOU ARE SCUM >.>

[Wallbanger]

VOTE: DeadCeleb

First real break we've caught, I do believe.

[machinesxe]

Protector my ass.

vote: DeadCeleb

He was the only person to target DJ last night.

I can confirm DeadCeleb is dirty...


vote: DeadCeleb

[machinesxe]

Come on guys lets end this now and take that momentum into tonight

[SmartBomb]

Come on guys lets end this now and take that momentum into tonight

And hopefully lynch SF next as well.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Come on guys lets end this now and take that momentum into tonight

Considering your dire enthusiasm, if this end sup badly, I'll be mighty suspicious of you.

Vote: DeadCeleb

[ShadowedFlames]

And hopefully lynch SF next as well.

*snicker*

If only it were that easy.

[Zeel1]

Hm, my game doesn't appear to be over...

Vote: DeadCeleb

That would make six. Might wanna stop there for now, phase is still young.

[machinesxe]

Considering your dire enthusiasm, if this end sup badly, I'll be mighty suspicious of you.

Vote: DeadCeleb
Not worried because I can confirm the something if need be which can verify why I want this vote.
Hm, my game doesn't appear to be over...

Vote: DeadCeleb

That would make six. Might wanna stop there for now, phase is still young.
Honestly no reason to slow down, we need this lynch to and the faster we move on it the faster we can continue to do the good work at night getting done what we need to.

Also I would just like to suggest that no one target SF in the night phase. I would explain more but I will leave you with the fact that the more we attack him the stronger he has seem to become.

[DeadCeleb]

Log on, and apparently because protecting DJ failed, I'm the killer. Huh.

I went to protect DJ last night, hence why Bak saw me target him. According to my PM, and the write up, that was nullified. I'm sorry that it makes me look scummy, and I wish it didn't, but I do have an idea if anyone is willing to hear it.

Also, I'm wondering how if Mach "knows" I'm dirty, why he's sat on this. Then again, that could be Mach saying that because he's frustrated that nothing we have done to lynch SF has worked and so you're all looking for a scapegoat. I can understand that, but I think it would be a damn shame to mis-lynch me before giving my theory some thought.

If anyone wants to know it, I'll be around to explain it.

[bak42]

Log on, and apparently because protecting DJ failed, I'm the killer. Huh.

I went to protect DJ last night, hence why Bak saw me target him. According to my PM, and the write up, that was nullified. I'm sorry that it makes me look scummy, and I wish it didn't, but I do have an idea if anyone is willing to hear it.

Also, I'm wondering how if Mach "knows" I'm dirty, why he's sat on this. Then again, that could be Mach saying that because he's frustrated that nothing we have done to lynch SF has worked and so you're all looking for a scapegoat. I can understand that, but I think it would be a damn shame to mis-lynch me before giving my theory some thought.

If anyone wants to know it, I'll be around to explain it.
My results were clear, you were the only person I saw targeting DJ last night. Furthermore, if you read DJ's death scene...
Night Seven


Somewhere else, djthefunkchris sat with a young girl while she played. She seemed more interested by the ducky than scared. The lack of fear ended about the time he showed up. She took off running, and the duck tried to block the path, not realizing he was tha target until he'd been knocked to the ground and the blade was crossing his neck.



There's only three people there, DJ (the duck), me (the young girl), and the killer, you.

[DeadCeleb]

My results were clear, you were the only person I saw targeting DJ last night. Furthermore, if you read DJ's death scene...


There's only three people there, DJ (the duck), me (the young girl), and the killer, you.


Your results are clear? Think about this for a second, gonvick was a watcher as well, and he was never sure of the killer. We have an unlynchable character, and quite possibly an untargetable SK. This is an Arrows game, and from what I've learned, he LOVES to throw curveballs at everyone. Because I hate quoting, let's go back to N1, when the assassin is talking to someone, he's described as a barely visible blur. Being that this is an Arrows game, it's possible even you wouldn't be able to see him/her.

I may not be in the write up, but I targeted DJ last night to protect him, so obviously I was roleblocked or there was shenanigans going on.

[bak42]

Your results are clear? Think about this for a second, gonvick was a watcher as well, and he was never sure of the killer. We have an unlynchable character, and quite possibly an untargetable SK. This is an Arrows game, and from what I've learned, he LOVES to throw curveballs at everyone.Yeah, and my curveball was that I didn't even have an ability until I got that visit back on night 3.

Because I hate quoting, let's go back to N1, when the assassin is talking to someone, he's described as a barely visible blur. Being that this is an Arrows game, it's possible even you wouldn't be able to see him/her. And yet, the writeup has me running off when the killer shows up, ergo I saw him or should I say, I saw you.

I may not be in the write up, but I targeted DJ last night to protect him, so obviously I was roleblocked or there was shenanigans going on.

If you were roleblocked, I wouldn't have seen you there because you wouldn't have been there.

The fact is, you're a scum killer, and you can't even use the "I'm a Vigilante" defense because we knew DJ was town from his first death.

[DeadCeleb]

Yeah, and my curveball was that I didn't even have an ability until I got that visit back on night 3.

And yet, the writeup has me running off when the killer shows up, ergo I saw him or should I say, I saw you.



If you were roleblocked, I wouldn't have seen you there because you wouldn't have been there.

The fact is, you're a scum killer, and you can't even use the "I'm a Vigilante" defense because we knew DJ was town from his first death.

Again, there is the possibility that the actual killer can't be seen, and you saw me there, but and I stress that I in no way had any part of DJ's death. He's been a great leader, and I'm angry my protection failed.

But again, before anyone else jumps in, if Mach "knows" I'm dirty, why has he sat on this info. Especially if he's another "protector." I don't know but that doesn't seem very on the level to me.

[bak42]

Again, there is the possibility that the actual killer can't be seen, and you saw me there, but and I stress that I in no way had any part of DJ's death. He's been a great leader, and I'm angry my protection failed.


If that's the case, why would I have ran from a protector?

[bak42]

Again, there is the possibility that the actual killer can't be seen, and you saw me there, but and I stress that I in no way had any part of DJ's death. He's been a great leader, and I'm angry my protection failed.


Just had another thought, if the killer can't be seen. Then why do we see him in the writeup?

[DeadCeleb]

If that's the case, why would I have ran from a protector?


Honestly wish I could tell you. I'm not disfigured in any way, or even a duck for that matter.

I wish I could tie things up in a nice pretty bow, but even I'm at a loss for an explanation.

[bak42]

Honestly wish I could tell you. I'm not disfigured in any way, or even a duck for that matter.

I wish I could tie things up in a nice pretty bow, but even I'm at a loss for an explanation.

In which case, I invoke Occam's Razor.

[DeadCeleb]

Just had another thought, if the killer can't be seen. Then why do we see him in the writeup?

This is an Arrows game, so who knows? He could be trying to give us something to go on. But the only thing I infer from the write ups is that he's hard to see, from being a blur.

Again though, I'm going off the N1 write up.

[DeadCeleb]

In which case, I invoke Occam's Razor.


Occam's Razor?

Do I need another trip to the Terminology thread?

[DeadCeleb]

Nevermind. Found it.

I understand why you would want to invoke that, but with Arrows as the mod, that may not always be the best case.

I've been learning that we have to read between the lines with him.

[machinesxe]

Log on, and apparently because protecting DJ failed, I'm the killer. Huh.

I went to protect DJ last night, hence why Bak saw me target him. According to my PM, and the write up, that was nullified. I'm sorry that it makes me look scummy, and I wish it didn't, but I do have an idea if anyone is willing to hear it.

Also, I'm wondering how if Mach "knows" I'm dirty, why he's sat on this. Then again, that could be Mach saying that because he's frustrated that nothing we have done to lynch SF has worked and so you're all looking for a scapegoat. I can understand that, but I think it would be a damn shame to mis-lynch me before giving my theory some thought.

If anyone wants to know it, I'll be around to explain it.
Nothing I feel the need to declare at this point but I promise what I know I could say should condemn you without a doubt, just wish I had caught something earlier on and we might not have gotten to the point we have...

My results were clear, you were the only person I saw targeting DJ last night. Furthermore, if you read DJ's death scene...


There's only three people there, DJ (the duck), me (the young girl), and the killer, you.

Your 100% accurate that he was up to know good. It's just too badge didn't "protect" SF last night...

[bak42]

Occam's Razor?

Do I need another trip to the Terminology thread?

Occam's Razor, All things being equal, the simplest explanation is the correct one.

[bak42]

Your 100% accurate that he was up to know good. It's just too badge didn't "protect" SF last night...

Considering it looks like someone did attack SF last night, I'm not sure it would have worked anyway. And if he had, I wouldn't have seen it and once again we'd be without a direction to go.

[DeadCeleb]

Nothing I feel the need to declare at this point but I promise what I know I could say should condemn you without a doubt, just wish I had caught something earlier on and we might not have gotten to the point we have...



Your 100% accurate that he was up to know good. It's just too badge didn't "protect" SF last night...


So that's your way saying you have bull, but you wanna look like the stand up guy that has info.

I'm sorry, but if you have proof that I'm the killer, the rest of us should string you up just for the fact that you've sat on it, instead of giving everyone their 'killer'.

I ain't buying it.

vote: Machinesxe

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase Eight. You have until 8:45 PM EST / 1:45 AM GMT, Monday April 9th / Tuesday April 10th, to reach a majority decision. With 16 players remaining, it will take 9 to reach majority.

DeadCeleb: 6 (bak42, SmartBomb, Wallbanger, machinesxe, mjdgoldeneye, Zeel1)

Machinesxe: 1 (DeadCeleb)

[machinesxe]

So that's your way saying you have bull, but you wanna look like the stand up guy that has info.

I'm sorry, but if you have proof that I'm the killer, the rest of us should string you up just for the fact that you've sat on it, instead of giving everyone their 'killer'.

I ain't buying it.

vote: Machinesxe
Ha, look at the scum start to squirm... I love it. Like isaid in my previous post, I just wish I realized something sooner...had I, you wouldn't be here right now. So I haven't been sitting on anything and if you were "protecting" dj tellme how he ended up dead... Your not looking to clean for this one and them turning it on the guy who right now could put you on the rope with one fact, and that is all I would need and this discussion would be through.

[machinesxe]

Let's end this without any other info needing to be shared because right now the town can take econtrol.

[DeadCeleb]

I have no reason to squirm, I'm just trying to prevent a mislynch because of a character who plays way too inconsistently to be deemed credible.

If you've got the info that "can end this discussion," lay it on the table and see what everyone says.

And again, like I've said, my ability failed, that's how he ended up dead.

[DeadCeleb]

Let's end this without any other info needing to be shared because right now the town can take econtrol.


Basically, you're going to run away because you have nothing.

;) nicely done.

[machinesxe]

I have no reason to squirm, I'm just trying to prevent a mislynch because of a character who plays way too inconsistently to be deemed credible.

If you've got the info that "can end this discussion," lay it on the table and see what everyone says.

And again, like I've said, my ability failed, that's how he ended up dead.

Problem is your ability didn't fail, it succeed. Only thing that failed was your cover as our protector.

[machinesxe]

Basically, you're going to run away because you have nothing.

;) nicely done.

I have basically put my claim put there without saying it in so manny words. If no one believes me then it is their lose and right now you have two people pointing at you, not just my inconsistent play. I have never been inconsistent, but rather consistently erratic to leave enough doubt on both sides to try and keeps myself alive.

If the right people want my full claim they can have it, but I think there is enough floating around just in the last 2 hours tha covers me and marks you for death tonight. Right now it is just interesting to see how your team decides to lay this one out.

[Ranson]

Dropping in to catch up and say

vote: deadceleb

[masterded]

vote: DeadCeleb

Also, I found my man. :D

[Imarevenant]

Michgs apparently wasn't a good hide target. (Apparently I got machinexe mixed up with michgs.)

Change Vote: michgs

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT

But seriously. If we're assuming that SF is Sonia Aligned, who is the dog killer? From what we can see of the writeup, it's got a human form. This might be difficult.

Who did BHK seem most suspicious of the last day phase. He targeted the Dog, just unlucky that the dog seemed to have targetted him back.


Nevermind. Found it.

I understand why you would want to invoke that, but with Arrows as the mod, that may not always be the best case.

I've been learning that we have to read between the lines with him.

I find this whole defense of Arrows is the mod distressing coming from someone whose never played an Arrows modded game.

Honestly it makes me wonder who suggested this defense to you?

[michgcs]

Michgcs apparently wasn't a good hide target. (Apparently I got machinexe mixed up with michgs.)


Curious as to why. Nothing in my role PM stating otherwise, although it implies that some people might not be so trusting of me.

I'll be around to drop a vote if needed, though it's not exactly looking good for DeadCeleb right about now.

[michgcs]

I find this whole defense of Arrows is the mod distressing coming from someone whose never played an Arrows modded game.

Honestly it makes me wonder who suggested this defense to you?

I think the night phase where Derek kept saying it's "an Arrows game" and anything can happen helped with that, IMO

[Wallbanger]

I think the night phase where Derek kept saying it's "an Arrows game" and anything can happen helped with that, IMO

You know, Nedokius I wasn't that crazy, as I recall it.

MMPR, now that was crazy fun, and yes, lots of stuff going on.

But there is a meta taste to using 'mod style' as a defense, even for a vet player. Any player can read up on games here, though. Still, gonna need way more than that to sell me on it.

[djthefunkchris]

Hey ShadowedFlames!!!


YELL DJTHEFUNKCHRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm Back!!!!:cool: just kidding

[eayragt]

Actually, if we go through potential SK'ers, there are a few options. One is eayragt, actually. Do we know anything about this guy?

You know I'm a girl, and gonvick saw me target Crychon on a night the beast killed someone else (although granted his results weren't that great, but that one was correct). I've also given several other night targets, which bak may be able to verify depending on where he's been pointing.

I've also pointed out that I'm in the same scene as the serial killer.

[eayragt]

And to the matter at hand... it looks like I have a hammer? Shall I use it? It makes the phase end time much more convenient for me (ie not in the middle of the night).

[SmartBomb]

THEN WHO COULD IT BE >.>

Actually..

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Alright, PoE later, and I've actually narrowed it down to one person. Seriously. Huh.

Anyone get one person after eliminating every other person that can't be the SK?

[eayragt]

I've still got four:

Zeel
Mich
Rev
Mjd

Actually, you could throw Derek onto that list. Right at the bottom of the list. I don't think him or Rev are, but I haven't seen proof that they aren't.

[SmartBomb]

I've still got four:

Zeel
Mich
Rev
Mjd

Actually, you could throw Derek onto that list. Right at the bottom of the list. I don't think him or Rev are, but I haven't seen proof that they aren't.

/nod

Zeel and Derek are confirmed to be Mickey Mouse Club after Crychon died. I'm having doubts about them being town simply because I'm getting frustrated on who could be town - and this is actually gaming the mod a bit. But yeah. Since Crychon died, it stands to reason that the other two kids of Nekodius 1 are still in the game.

mjd is a nexus, that much is confirmed. Since BHK targeted the beast when he died, that rules him out.

That leaves Imarevenant and mich, right? This pretty much narrows it down to 80% mich, 20% Imarevenant. Consider that Imarevenant claimed a repeat of Nekodius 1 (which is really risky as he might be in the game) compared with michgs who claimed... "possibly miller" as of this phase? And when masterded found me behind michgs, there wasn't a specific location?

My suspicion is rising.

[eayragt]

Mich claimed to target tbp n1, which was a really bold claim, but yeah, apart from that we don't know much about him, and baring in mind almost everyone else is ruled out that puts him at the top of the list.

I still think mjd is second choice. I still haven't seen proof he's a nexus, but expect he is, I'll give him that. However, last nights narrative doesn't clearly show Bhk targeting the beast - him sniffing the beast first could be narrative. Now, if we knew Bhk's ability was scent activated that would be conclusive, but I don't think we ever got his ability.

I've kind of accepted that we're only going to lynch mjd if we've lynched all the other possible candidates first.

[Derek B]

You know I'm a girl, and gonvick saw me target Crychon on a night the beast killed someone else (although granted his results weren't that great, but that one was correct). I've also given several other night targets, which bak may be able to verify depending on where he's been pointing.

I've also pointed out that I'm in the same scene as the serial killer.

I've got some mess in my notes with stuff going on around gonvick and busdriving shenanigans. Am I right in thinking that at one point you were the only person spotted targetting someone who died or have I gotten things really confused there? If you can answer this as quickly as you can that could be pretty helpful.

I've still got four:

Zeel
Mich
Rev
Mjd

Actually, you could throw Derek onto that list. Right at the bottom of the list. I don't think him or Rev are, but I haven't seen proof that they aren't.

/nod

Zeel and Derek are confirmed to be Mickey Mouse Club after Crychon died. I'm having doubts about them being town simply because I'm getting frustrated on who could be town - and this is actually gaming the mod a bit. But yeah. Since Crychon died, it stands to reason that the other two kids of Nekodius 1 are still in the game.

mjd is a nexus, that much is confirmed. Since BHK targeted the beast when he died, that rules him out.

That leaves Imarevenant and mich, right? This pretty much narrows it down to 80% mich, 20% Imarevenant. Consider that Imarevenant claimed a repeat of Nekodius 1 (which is really risky as he might be in the game) compared with michgs who claimed... "possibly miller" as of this phase? And when masterded found me behind michgs, there wasn't a specific location?

My suspicion is rising.

This line of thinking closely resembles my own. After that last night phase I've gone through all the claims/hints I've picked up and michgcs is one of the few who I'm not able to place at any particular scene, with any ability or with any claimed targets. If he's the beast then getting rid of his kill would go a long ways to securing victory for the town by ensuring our numbers don't drop.

Hell, while we haven't exactly found many scum we've not exactly been losing many townies either. I don't know what the scum group setup(s) are but since none of the teams can be huge we just need to thin out the kills and they've got no chance.

@Everyone: Don't finish the phase too quickly, we have time and we should use it while we've got it to make sure all our information is correct and accurate.

I'm gonna go through night write ups to see what I can piece together from them, it might be that shenanigans are going on and from memory the speedy killer has been extremely deadly. I'm starting to think that his different coloured text from the Sonia group and all the gems in this game are giving him some kind of mercenary thing that could possibly be screwing things up.

And if I'm wrong, giving the idea some time to be proven wrong won't hurt us. :)

[eayragt]

I've got some mess in my notes with stuff going on around gonvick and busdriving shenanigans. Am I right in thinking that at one point you were the only person spotted targetting someone who died or have I gotten things really confused there? If you can answer this as quickly as you can that could be :)

Slightly broken quote, thanks to being on phone. Which also prevents me from searching thread effectively.

Gonvick saw me twice, once targeting Crychon (which I did do), and I think the other time targeting someone else, which I didn't so.

So far I've targeted Derek, Jman, Crychon, Ranson, Mich and sf.

[bak42]

I've also given several other night targets, which bak may be able to verify depending on where he's been pointing.
I can't verify anything about your targets, the first three nights I didn't have an ability, night 4 I saw no one target DJ, night 5 I was roleblocked, night 6 was skipped and night 7 I saw DeadCeleb target DJ.

[Derek B]

Wow, goin through notes to try to piece things together is going to take a few hours by the looks of things. I'm trying to keep mechanics and narrative apart so as not to confuse things, which is making it more confusing in terms of me wanting to ask questions of things all over the place. Hopefully I'll get a decent format for it so that it doesn't look too messy when I get to posting it.

Just don't hammer anything... the N0 and N1 write ups have me thinking about gems and mercenaries and the way some mercs have been powered up in past games. I can't help thinking with the interactions between the Sonia Leader (who I'm assuming is ShadowedFlames) and the Speedy Assassin that we're missing something important, and it's something that DJ has talked about more than anyone else so I'm gonna have to go re-read those posts too.

We've got lots of time, might as well use it. And if michgcs gets on he's got a lot of explaining to do about himself. With the numbers as they are I think permanently removing a kill is a great option for the town so if that option becomes available... well, michgcs has some convincing to do.

In fact, given how close to hammer we are it would probably be advisable for someone to take their vote off DeadCeleb to make sure michgcs doesn't get a free ride.

[michgcs]

Vote: deadceleb

[eayragt]

Vote: deadceleb

Cute. I think you forgot to post a denial as well.

Maybe one kill away from achieving win condition?

[Derek B]

Vote: deadceleb

Well I know who I'm voting for next phase, that was one of the scummiest things I've seen in a mafia game in a while Beasty McBeastscum. :p

[Derek B]

I suppose if nothing else one of my theories will be proven right or wrong before I actually post it... but by posting a vote and nothing else right after I said to hold off the votes and to take one off in order to not give michgcs a pass... well, I think we've as good as gotten a confession right there. I just wish I could take credit for it, but I think Smartbomb posted most of the legwork so it's his credit to take if he wants it.

Anywhoe, back I go to write ups and stuff... I've yet to have michgcs anywhere in them, along with a few other people. I even think someone should be able to tell that michgcs is the Beast if they put the pieces together so there's always that. Yay for write up analysis!

And of course, I'm assuming the lynch has gone through at this point. I suppose I could be wrong about that but I doubt it this time given the way past votes have gone.

[michgcs]

LOL sorry about that. No, no defense from me.

You guys pretty much nailed it on the head, I'm going to have to learn to play smarter (and better) next time. :D

It was a fun role while it lasted, any last requests for me to try and kill this phase?

[Derek B]

LOL sorry about that. No, no defense from me.

You guys pretty much nailed it on the head, I'm going to have to learn to play smarter (and better) next time. :D

It was a fun role while it lasted, any last requests for me to try and kill this phase?

Really? No defense at all? :confused:

In that case, if you could try to murderously chase your own tail I wouldn't mind. Don't think I've ever seen someone kill themself during a night phase and that would totally be worth seeing.

[Zeel1]

Aw come on michgcs, you gotta go down swinging, man.

Timing on that vote was pretty hilarious though, have to say. :p

[Derek B]

VOTE: michgcs

Confessed scum and all... day phase should be over so it makes no difference. I need to take a break from the computer as I'm developing internet elbow (ie, my elbows hurt from resting them on the desk too much) so I'm off to watch TV for a bit. I don't imagine there are gonna be any suprises popping up any time soon so I'm affording myself the luxury of being lazy for a bit. :p

[michgcs]

Aw come on michgcs, you gotta go down swinging, man.

Timing on that vote was pretty hilarious though, have to say. :p

Well you guys had me figured out-- my fault for not laying decent groundwork throughout the game. If not this phase, I would've gotten caught tomorrow, for sure.


Really? No defense at all? :confused:

In that case, if you could try to murderously chase your own tail I wouldn't mind. Don't think I've ever seen someone kill themself during a night phase and that would totally be worth seeing.

LOL I think I just might try to do that :D

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase Eight. You have until 8:45 PM EST / 1:45 AM GMT, Monday April 9th / Tuesday April 10th, to reach a majority decision. With 16 players remaining, it will take 9 to reach majority.

DeadCeleb: 9 (bak42, SmartBomb, Wallbanger, machinesxe, mjdgoldeneye, Zeel1, Ranson, masterded, michgcs)

Machinesxe: 1 (DeadCeleb)

Lynch Has Been Achieved.

[DeadCeleb]

It's been fun guys.

[Arrows]

Day Eight

Finally, a break. After days of struggling to find any true evidence to support a push, today finally gave them a chance to take a stand and shift momentum back their way. They couldn't wait to see the end result, and hopefully someone evil hanging from the gallows.

He tried to make his escape as they began to surround him, but someone managed to catch an arm as he passed. The force of his body being jerked to a stop caused the gem in his hand to fall to the ground and shatter, leaving him defenseless against the mob.

It was simple to lead him to the gallows and watch him hang once his speed was taken out of the picture.

DeadCeleb is dead. He was Daniels, Sonia Aligned Weapon Of The New Order.

It is now Night Phase Eight. You have until 12:00 PM EST / 5:00 PM GMT, Monday April 9th, to get your night actions in to Arrows and moon_lit_tears.

[eayragt]

Nice one bak.

[Derek B]

Day Eight

Finally, a break. After days of struggling to find any true evidence to support a push, today finally gave them a chance to take a stand and shift momentum back their way. They couldn't wait to see the end result, and hopefully someone evil hanging from the gallows.

He tried to make his escape as they began to surround him, but someone managed to catch an arm as he passed. The force of his body being jerked to a stop caused the gem in his hand to fall to the ground and shatter, leaving him defenseless against the mob.

It was simple to lead him to the gallows and watch him hang once his speed was taken out of the picture.

DeadCeleb is dead. He was Daniels, Sonia Aligned Weapon Of The New Order.

It is now Night Phase Eight. You have until 12:00 PM EST / 5:00 PM GMT, Monday April 9th, to get your night actions in to Arrows and moon_lit_tears.

Given how important DJ made gems sound, I wonder how the loss of a gem here will affect things moving forward.

I'd be sad if michgcs actually answered since he should be playing to his win condition... but I have to assume that he's out to destroy every gem, while Sonia are out to gather as many as they can.

Most interestingly for me is that DeadCeleb seems to be our Speedy Assassin and he's been presented in black text throughout the game. I wonder if he was indy mercenary earlier in the game and joined Sonia after seeing the deaths of Nedokius, Shining Armor, Jman and possibly even town with someone like Astil in charge. Regardless, it seems he's been working with Sonia all along so they must've had the best offer if that was the case.

[masterded]

I need michgcs alive at least for this night phase. This will be the second time I target him causing me to get the mini game of my win condition and I am guessing cause something to happen to him (as I know he doesn't want me to find him). Though what that would be I have no idea. All I know that me a town member who can be seen in multiple write-ups needs to find him again tonight.

[eayragt]

I need michgcs alive at least for this night phase. This will be the second time I target him causing me to get the mini game of my win condition and I am guessing cause something to happen to him (as I know he doesn't want me to find him). Though what that would be I have no idea. All I know that me a town member who can be seen in multiple write-ups needs to find him again tonight.

We might need more than that.

[Derek B]

I need michgcs alive at least for this night phase. This will be the second time I target him causing me to get the mini game of my win condition and I am guessing cause something to happen to him (as I know he doesn't want me to find him). Though what that would be I have no idea. All I know that me a town member who can be seen in multiple write-ups needs to find him again tonight.

I thought you were looking for Smartbomb, why would you need to do anything with the serial killer if you're looking for the hider? :confused:

[masterded]

I thought you were looking for Smartbomb, why would you need to do anything with the serial killer if you're looking for the hider? :confused:

I was looking for the man of my dreams who saved me some time ago michgcs last night and turns out I found him. It can be seen in the write-up. I sneak up hug him he gets away again.

[masterded]

I was looking for the man of my dreams who saved me some time ago michgcs last night and turns out I found him. It can be seen in the write-up. I sneak up hug him he gets away again.

I am dumb. He hid behind him. Let him die.

[masterded]

I am dumb. He hid behind him. Let him die.

This does mean the list I was keeping to figure out who I could be looking for is useless and that are hider can hide behind scum. That second thing is somewhat useful I think.

[Ranson]

Woo! Productive lynch. Maybe the night phase will be useful,too.

[machinesxe]

LOL sorry about that. No, no defense from me.

You guys pretty much nailed it on the head, I'm going to have to learn to play smarter (and better) next time. :D

It was a fun role while it lasted, any last requests for me to try and kill this phase?

Kill sf

[mjdgoldeneye]

People want to lynch me because there's no proof that I'm a nexus? Prove that I'm a nexus! There tons of ways to do this with varying degrees of wasteful paranoia... :rolleyes:

Having a watcher watch me and a known player target me seems like the least silly way, but it's still inefficient and there's a slim chance both players will be redirected to the same target.

[eayragt]

People want to lynch me because there's no proof that I'm a nexus? Prove that I'm a nexus! There tons of ways to do this with varying degrees of wasteful paranoia... :rolleyes:

Having a watcher watch me and a known player target me seems like the least silly way, but it's still inefficient and there's a slim chance both players will be redirected to the same target.

What? I'll admit, I was wrong about you. But I'm quite happy with a nexus serial killer being a viable role (although I was never sure you were a nexus, that was fairly irrelevant to my thought process). Normally I wont consider it, but considering there's seemingly unlynchable scum, it seems an interesting balance to that role.

I never thought you were a serial killer because I thought you were lying about being a nexus - I never, ever said that. I questioned if you were a nexus as people have said you are pretty much a proven nexus, yet when questioned no-one has ever given me any evidence of this. However, it didn't matter whether or not you were a nexus to my thoughts that you could be the serial killer.

Your suggestion in the second paragraph is nonsense, and I wouldn't expect it to work. Basically a watcher is pretty much the only role which can disprove you're a nexus serial killer. As opposed to a nexus. There are plently of roles that can prove you're not a nexus serial killer if you're not even a nexus :)

All moot. You are probably a nexus (although I still haven't seen the proof). You are probably not a serial killer. Yet ;). If I see someone breaking free of a gem tonight with evil intentions :eek:.

[bak42]

People want to lynch me because there's no proof that I'm a nexus? Prove that I'm a nexus! There tons of ways to do this with varying degrees of wasteful paranoia... :rolleyes:

Having a watcher watch me and a known player target me seems like the least silly way, but it's still inefficient and there's a slim chance both players will be redirected to the same target.

This watcher trusts that you are actually a nexus, so I won't be targeting you.

[Destiny]

Top effort on the lynch guys, well done especially to bak42. If we could get rid of michgcs tonight that would be great, means we could look elsewhere tomorrow.

[Arrows]

Night Phase Is Now Over.

[Arrows]

Night Eight

After finally starting to get things back on track, most knew what they had to do tonight to keep things going. At least, they thought they did.

Machinesxe was doing his part, perched and waiting for the right time to strike. His target was perfectly safe. He, wasn't. A ring of fire surrounded him, growing higher until it completely overwhelmed the massive bird.

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He knocked on the door softly, fully aware of the situation and what needed to be done. He couldn't afford to not be trying to help right now. When she opened the door she smiled, already understanding his presence here. With a hand shake, he turned to walk away and her smile grew as wide as humanly possible. This was certainly workable.

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She danced as gracefully as she could manage, given who her partner for the night wound up being. It was all she could do to balance herself as the stage shook from the movement of her partner. If only others would've been around to witness this sight.

She'd managed to almost completely subdue the beast, and no one was around to see it happen. No one would ever her her tell this story, either. She caught a flash of white from the corner of her eye and turned to it's source, fear barely having time to cross her face before she fell to the floor.

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Machinesxe is dead. He was Paul, Humanity Aligned God Of The Sky.

BlueStar is dead. She was Mya, Humanity Aligned Inspiring Dancer.

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase 9. You have until 12:15 PM EST / 5:15 PM GMT, Wednesday April 11th, to reach a majority decision. With 13 players remaining, it will take 7 to lynch.

All PMs should be out.

[Derek B]

If only DJ had still been around to look after mach, I knew I was right about him.

In honour of BlueStar's efforts last night, since it looks like he was out saving someone's life with a roleblock...

VOTE: michgcs

I know there are other options and I'm not going to be around for much of the next couple of days as I've got fun things going on in life... but the safe removal of a kill after we've lost our role blockers and protectors should be the safest path towards a victory at this point. There's no evidence of a vote manipulator out there on any lynches, no sign of shenanigans. With 13 left to go, we lynch to 12, probably down to 11 overnight... unless we think there's a six person scum group left out there I think town has this sorted, so getting rid of michgcs's kill should ensure we win.

But we also need to make sure we use the phase and don't rush things through. We have an obvious target to go for after michgcs who can possibly be dealth with overnight. Then we just need to find however many people are left... scum seem to be pretty powerful, which may be to help balance out their numbers. I dread to think what state we'd be in if it weren't for some early good protections from crychon and mach, along with Destiny's double shouting... but it's all good. The path seems clear now and I think victory is in sight. :)

[eayragt]

vote: michgcs

I think defence has already rested in this case, m'lord.

[Derek B]

http://a1.mzstatic.com/us/r1000/004/Purple/bc/bd/88/mzl.hzjcydvs.320x480-75.jpg

I should be addressed as "m'lady"... or possibly as "m'young lady". :p

[masterded]

Vote: michgcs

[Wallbanger]

VOTE: michgcs

This has to be the priority.

[Ranson]

Vote: michgcs

Last night's results, as usual, inconclusive. The faster I get to the next night phase, the better to try again.

[BlueStar]

/let's dance....nevermore....

[mjdgoldeneye]

I feel a little weird about this, but:

Vote: michgcs

[ShadowedFlames]

/shrug

Suits me fine.

Vote: michgcs

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase 9. You have until 12:15 PM EST / 5:15 PM GMT, Wednesday April 11th, to reach a majority decision. With 13 players remaining, it will take 7 to lynch.

michgcs: 7 (Derek B, eayragt, masterded, Wallbanger, Ranson, mjdgoldeneye, ShadowedFlames)

Lynch Has Been Achieved.

[Arrows]

Day Phase Nine

It had been another long night, with two more of their own now dead. As soon as the dead were sorted, they turned to the admitted killer amongst them and made a snap decision to end him.

Of course, how do you end something like this one? Everyone kept a safe distance around the beast while shouting ideas back and forth. Growing tired of the situation, one brought a ball of fire from out of nowhere down on top of the beast.

Michgcs is dead. He was Anubis, Berserk Beast From Another World.

[Wallbanger]

*snicker*

Oh, now that's meta.

[Arrows]

It is now Night Phase Nine. You have until 4:30 PM EST / 9:30 PM GMT, Tuesday April 10th to get your night PMs in to Arrows and moon_lit_tears. If you don't intend to use your ability, let us know.

[bak42]

Well, so much for using the whole day.

Vote: michgcs

Last night's results, as usual, inconclusive. The faster I get to the next night phase, the better to try again.

And what exactly were you trying to find out about Destiny?

[Ranson]

That's easy; I investigate two, get results about one -- but I don't know which. Destiny is a known town quantity. I targeted him and one other, and if I get a scum result...well, with no shenanigans, I've got a target for the next day's lynch.

Of course, saying that, I'm that much more vulnerable to shenanigans, now.

Also, I'm known town; why the night-time questioning?

[bak42]

That's easy; I investigate two, get results about one -- but I don't know which. Destiny is a known town quantity. I targeted him and one other, and if I get a scum result...well, with no shenanigans, I've got a target for the next day's lynch.

Of course, saying that, I'm that much more vulnerable to shenanigans, now.

Also, I'm known town; why the night-time questioning?

Well I was going to ask during the day, but the day ended before I had the chance to.

[Zeel1]

Day Phase Nine

It had been another long night, with two more of their own now dead. As soon as the dead were sorted, they turned to the admitted killer amongst them and made a snap decision to end him.

Of course, how do you end something like this one? Everyone kept a safe distance around the beast while shouting ideas back and forth. Growing tired of the situation, one brought a ball of fire from out of nowhere down on top of the beast.

Michgcs is dead. He was Anubis, Berserk Beast From Another World.

Oh yay, I killed him after all~! :p

Seemed to get redirected last night, that's troubling.

[Derek B]

Really? After the last phase was rush lynched and hammered by scum to save their own ass we get the same thing again in this phase? If only some smart person had advised some kinda of caution, that maybe we should only put a couple of votes on and use the time in the phase to do something constructive instead of rushing to end the phase before anyone even got on....

If only DJ had still been around to look after mach, I knew I was right about him.

In honour of BlueStar's efforts last night, since it looks like he was out saving someone's life with a roleblock...

VOTE: michgcs

I know there are other options and I'm not going to be around for much of the next couple of days as I've got fun things going on in life... but the safe removal of a kill after we've lost our role blockers and protectors should be the safest path towards a victory at this point. There's no evidence of a vote manipulator out there on any lynches, no sign of shenanigans. With 13 left to go, we lynch to 12, probably down to 11 overnight... unless we think there's a six person scum group left out there I think town has this sorted, so getting rid of michgcs's kill should ensure we win.

But we also need to make sure we use the phase and don't rush things through. We have an obvious target to go for after michgcs who can possibly be dealth with overnight. Then we just need to find however many people are left... scum seem to be pretty powerful, which may be to help balance out their numbers. I dread to think what state we'd be in if it weren't for some early good protections from crychon and mach, along with Destiny's double shouting... but it's all good. The path seems clear now and I think victory is in sight. :)

... oh! Someone did! :p

It's not a bad lynch... but we just lost a lot of time, to the point that we're talking about stuff in a night phase that could've easily been talked about during the day phase if we'd used it. After michgcs pulled the speed lynch get out of jail free card on himself the previous day, this one seems to have gone much more quickly than necessary too. And with some big townspeople on there. This makes me sad, the words to votes ratio was not impressive on this lynch. :(

Oh yay, I killed him after all~! :p

Seemed to get redirected last night, that's troubling.

And even worse again! Given the stuff that happened with gonvick early in the game and his results being skewed, I wonder if this was a bus driving or a redirection? A bus driver makes things complicated... a redirection makes things really dangerous for town because you essentially become an extra kill for scum if you go out, just like you must've been last night (the fire kill did worry me but I was gonna ask about that later in the day :(). I'd put money on ShadowedFlames doing the killing for his group (and he just lost the game again :p) which means bak ain't gonna be able to give us any new info when he kills...

Don't rush the next day phase, we need to communicate. We ALL need to communicate and we're getting worse at it.

.......

In unrelated news, the Battlestar Galactica board game is fun to play, reminds me of mafia in many ways only with way more cards all over the place. :)

[mjdgoldeneye]

We're making progress. We're losing people quickly, but I think we just stopped one of the kills.

I think we need to get a lynch every day from here on out to win. I think Shining Armor should be a priority if it's a cult. If we kill the regular scum first, they might win as soon as they all go away.

Hell, for all I know, you're all scum anyway and I'm the only townie left... :p

[Destiny]

Vote: michgcs

Last night's results, as usual, inconclusive. The faster I get to the next night phase, the better to try again.

No, no, no. Town never need to get to night phase as soon as possible, only scum do. Night phase will always come, it is up to us to make the most of the day whilst it is available. Never be too eager to get to night phase just so you can use your abilities. Discussion in the day phase is often the best weapon the town has.

End of rant. Good lynch, hope for one less kill tonight.

[SmartBomb]

Night Eight

After finally starting to get things back on track, most knew what they had to do tonight to keep things going. At least, they thought they did.

Machinesxe was doing his part, perched and waiting for the right time to strike. His target was perfectly safe. He, wasn't. A ring of fire surrounded him, growing higher until it completely overwhelmed the massive bird.

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She danced as gracefully as she could manage, given who her partner for the night wound up being. It was all she could do to balance herself as the stage shook from the movement of her partner. If only others would've been around to witness this sight.

She'd managed to almost completely subdue the beast, and no one was around to see it happen. No one would ever her her tell this story, either. She caught a flash of white from the corner of her eye and turned to it's source, fear barely having time to cross her face before she fell to the floor.

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Machinesxe is dead. He was Paul, Humanity Aligned God Of The Sky.

BlueStar is dead. She was Mya, Humanity Aligned Inspiring Dancer.

So we have two dead. Zeel owned up to being one of the killers.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that if this appears again, it might be that Zeel was converted to Sonia during his time spent looking for whatever Derek's role was. That male name.

I mean, isn't it the don's death that skips the kill, not the hitman's? Where's Sonia's kill in the middle of this?

[Zeel1]

So we have two dead. Zeel owned up to being one of the killers.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that if this appears again, it might be that Zeel was converted to Sonia during his time spent looking for whatever Derek's role was. That male name.

I mean, isn't it the don's death that skips the kill, not the hitman's? Where's Sonia's kill in the middle of this?

I'm pretty sure his was the second. Michgcs was that beast being subdued. I mean you could say that it ended up not working and he eventually turned on and killed her, but it looks more to me like someone else just snuck up behind her whilst she was busy with it.

[SmartBomb]

I'm pretty sure his was the second. Michgcs was that beast being subdued. I mean you could say that it ended up not working and he eventually turned on and killed her, but it looks more to me like someone else just snuck up behind her whilst she was busy with it.

ah yeah true.

I wonder if it'd be a good idea for you to kill tonight. :|

[Zeel1]

Guessing no.

Certainly not going to let myself be used as a weapon. And I didn't really have a good idea for a kill, anyway.

[Derek B]

Guessing no.

Certainly not going to let myself be used as a weapon. And I didn't really have a good idea for a kill, anyway.

I'd say there would've been a pretty obvious target, but that if scum can just redirect you then you're gonna end up wherever they want you anyways so you'd never get there. Not to worry though, I'm sure that target will be lynched soon enough anyways. :)

[Arrows]

Night Phase Is Over.

[Arrows]

Night Nine

Apparently, a meeting of the young ladies was scheduled for tonight. One seemed disapointed about the lack of boys, and even left the party early. The other two older girls watched their younger friend play while they discussed old times.

They'd actually known each other, before she got sick. Before they all ousted her to die here amongst the humans. As much as she hated this girl, she couldn't deny she made sense. Not once she looked her in the eyes.

------------------------------------------------------

As she stormed off, she bumped into a man who was quick to catch her and steady her. He offered an apology and a smile before realizing she was who he'd been searching for. This shouldn't be too difficult.

A man not far away noticed what was happening and ducked behind a wall. Not enough room to hide if she managed to spot him tonight. After a few moments he peeked his head out just enough to see that she was gone, replaced by someone else speaking to the man.

The two men parted ways, one not even noticing the other drop to the ground.

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Ranson is dead. He was Garrett, Humanity Aligned Royal Spy.

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase Ten. You have until 5:15 PM EST / 10:15 PM GMT, Thursday April 12th, to reach a majority decision. With 11 players remaining, it will take 6 to reach majority.

[ShadowedFlames]

Just because I can.

Vote: SmartBomb

[djthefunkchris]

lmao.

[Ranson]

Oh, no...not again...

If I come back as a bowl of petunias, you're all going down [/Hitchhikers]

[SmartBomb]

Just because I can.

Vote: SmartBomb

Vote: ShadowedFlames

OMGUS. You vote me, I vote you. Simple.

Hey, mjd. You're not cult, right? :p hmm. How many people claimed female? I'll have to look over that when we have more time.

For now, let's try to see whether SF can be lynched now.

[bak42]

Oh, no...not again...

If I come back as a bowl of petunias, you're all going down [/Hitchhikers]

You know, if someone ever does a Hitchikers Guide mafia game, the mods needs to be Agrajag and die in every phase.:D

[SmartBomb]

You know, if someone ever does a Hitchikers Guide mafia game, the mods needs to be Agrajag and die in every phase.:D

Wait.

You're in the first part of the writeup. The young girl playing, right? Just making sure here - there is still a cult, right? In which case, who did you target?

Predit: actually, read the first part of night 7. Mmm.

[ShadowedFlames]

Vote: ShadowedFlames

OMGUS. You vote me, I vote you. Simple.

Hey, mjd. You're not cult, right? :p hmm. How many people claimed female? I'll have to look over that when we have more time.

For now, let's try to see whether SF can be lynched now.

...tick...

[Wallbanger]

...tock?

[Zeel1]

Feed the croc?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Are we doing this?

Vote: ShadowedFlames

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase Ten. You have until 5:15 PM EST / 10:15 PM GMT, Thursday April 12th, to reach a majority decision. With 11 players remaining, it will take 6 to reach majority.

ShadowedFlames: 2 (SmartBomb, mjdgoldeneye)

SmartBomb: 1 (ShadowedFlames)

[Destiny]

Vote: ShadowedFlames, not sure how much use this will be. If it works then great, if not then we need to find another lynch target.

[ShadowedFlames]

Are we doing this?

Vote: ShadowedFlames

...tock...

Vote: ShadowedFlames, not sure how much use this will be. If it works then great, if not then we need to find another lynch target.

...tick...


Those sounds you hear? The sounds of inevitability.

[SmartBomb]

hmmmm.

PROCESS OF ELIMINATION STRIKES AGAIN YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

Sonia Alignment (one busdriver, one hitman) has comes down to this:

12: Imarevenant
18: mjdgoldeneye
21: ShadowedFlames
25: Wallbanger

(If I post this, bak, don't reveal your result.)

Um. Huh.

Someone help me why Banger was cleared?

We have:

- A possible cult leader. Who is female. Now, if you recall from Nekodius epilogue, this can't be Shining Armour unless they went through a complete overhaul. I think I know who this is, and I'll wait for a signal or something so that I can confirm they aren't something random along the lines of Nekodius recruiting or something.

[eayragt]

hmmmm.

PROCESS OF ELIMINATION STRIKES AGAIN YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

Sonia Alignment (one busdriver, one hitman) has comes down to this:

12: Imarevenant
18: mjdgoldeneye
21: ShadowedFlames
25: Wallbanger

(If I post this, bak, don't reveal your result.)

Um. Huh.

Someone help me why Banger was cleared?

We have:

- A possible cult leader. Who is female. Now, if you recall from Nekodius epilogue, this can't be Shining Armour unless they went through a complete overhaul. I think I know who this is, and I'll wait for a signal or something so that I can confirm they aren't something random along the lines of Nekodius recruiting or something.

I'll quote the whole post, to reference both bits.

Wallbanger seems to be going around making people better. He gave Destiny another resurrection. He turned bak into a watcher.

I think I can tell you who the recruiter is as well, as process of elimination has it down to one.

[SmartBomb]

I'll quote the whole post, to reference both bits.

Wallbanger seems to be going around making people better. He gave Destiny another resurrection. He turned bak into a watcher.

I think I can tell you who the recruiter is as well, as process of elimination has it down to one.

...oh.

That leaves mjd and Rev. And considering there's a busdriver, I'm beginning to suspect mjd. :|

Do you think there's still a cult in this game? It's up to you whether to reveal it otherwise.

[ShadowedFlames]

Day 10--call it mid-afternoon.

A figured garbed in the purest of whire robes walks to the center of town square. After a moment of clearing his throat, his voices echoes out for everyone to hear.

Attention, remnants of the town of Dragonbrook and the last bastion of hope for this world!

You have failed. You tried to stop the oncoming storm, and were felled like the wheat to the scythe that is the reign of Sonia.

A valiant effort, but doomed to failure before it even began.

You cannot stand against our might. You cannot stand against our numbers. Even as we speak, one of your number has seen the light beyond the shadows, and has joined our noble cause.

You cannot defeat us. You cannot hope to win. All you can hope to do is to die nobly, with swords in hand, as we remake the world in the manner of our choosing.

All hail the new order, the Empire of Sonia, for the end of days is upon you all!

Change Vote: masterded

[Derek B]

I'm appreciating the effort but I don't think it's gonna work. ;)

VOTE: masterded

[bak42]

For Sonia!

vote: masterded

[eayragt]

For Sonia!

vote: masterded

Who's Sonia.

...wants to link 80's UK pop video, but at work, so can't.

Who recruited you last night bak?

[bak42]

Who's Sonia.

...wants to link 80's UK pop video, but at work, so can't.

Who recruited you last night bak?

The Sonians.

[eayragt]

The Sonians.

Do you reckon they will recruit me?

[ShadowedFlames]

Do you reckon they will recruit me?

If I were persuaded to, mayhaps.

[eayragt]

If I were persuaded to, mayhaps.

vote: masterded then my lord, I give myself to you.

[ShadowedFlames]

vote: masterded then my lord, I give myself to you.

Then rise, my child, and join me at my right hand. Witness the birth of the new order.

[Wallbanger]

Wallbanger seems to be going around making people better. He gave Destiny another resurrection. He turned bak into a watcher.

I do make people better...

for a price. :cool:

That price? Makes this vote a hammer.

VOTE: masterded

[Derek B]

Wait! Did I vote for the wrong person? I meant to say...

CHANGE VOTE: masterded

Silly me...

[Arrows]

It is now Day Phase Ten. You have until 5:15 PM EST / 10:15 PM GMT, Thursday April 12th, to reach a majority decision. With 11 players remaining, it will take 6 to reach majority.

masterded: 5 (ShadowedFlames, Derek B, bak42, eayragt, Wallbanger)

ShadowedFlames: 3 (SmartBomb, mjdgoldeneye, Destiny)

Lynch has been achieved.

[Arrows]

Day Ten

Even with the death of two threats and the tide turning in their favor, hope would only be a temporary feeling for the few left holding onto hope of defending this world.

Last night she'd been visited and given a promise of help finding the man of her dreams. Help she was quick to accept, completely missing the true intent of the deal.

They'd played by the humans' silly rules, and now they were going to use those rules to destroy the last substantial gathering of humans in their path. Tonight, this world would be cleansed and reborn in their image.

All thanks to her selling her say to him. In a cruel twist, it was her own vote, that sealed her death.

masterded is dead. She was Aria, Humanity Aligned Crushing School Girl.





The Sonia Alignment Has Won.

Winners:

ShadowedFlames
eayragt
DeadCeleb
Derek B
Wallbanger
bak42

[moon_lit_tears]

I must say this last phase has brought a tear to my eye.

Made me think of Astil recruiting me to win Sci-fi chaos?

[ShadowedFlames]

Shouldn't DeadCeleb get a win as well?

[Arrows]

Shouldn't DeadCeleb get a win as well?

Shhhh. Still waking up.:D

[Derek B]

Day Ten

Even with the death of two threats and the tide turning in their favor, hope would only be a temporary feeling for the few left holding onto hope of defending this world.

Last night she'd been visited and given a promise of help finding the man of her dreams. Help she was quick to accept, completely missing the true intent of the deal.

They'd played by the humans' silly rules, and now they were going to use those rules to destroy the last substantial gathering of humans in their path. Tonight, this world would be cleansed and reborn in their image.

All thanks to her selling her say to him. In a cruel twist, it was her own vote, that sealed her death.

masterded is dead. She was Aria, Humanity Aligned Crushing School Girl.





The Sonia Alignment Has Won.

Winners:

ShadowedFlames
eayragt
DeadCeleb
Derek B
Wallbanger
bak42

That makes twice this week I've wiped out humanity if I include the Battlestar Galactica board game. Much fun has been had. :D

[ShadowedFlames]

Also, with the game now over, I do want to apologize if I upset anyone with my manner of posting during the game. Once we established that (at the time) I was unlynchable, I thought it might help our chances to try to talk town off their game, and to do that I had to play up the scumminess.

You might notice that after the DeadCeleb lynch I shut up quickly. There was a reason for that--my immunity was gone. At that point, silence was my main hope.

It was all working to win the game for our side, no more and no less.

[eayragt]

I'd like to apologise to gonvick for mucking up 2 of your 3 night results. It wasn't planned that way, just fell really unfortunately for you.

[BlueStar]

Well played...well played. You use the power you have. I had a bead of SF from D4 or something, I think. Tried blocking him ... of course, yeah..... /shrugs.

Nice game. Excellent write-ups, good (enough) activity....I enjoyed it, even with limited online time.

[Derek B]

I was also quite low on the posting count for my usual style... and it was mostly down to being away, with a few days being me laying low for the sake of not putting my foot in anything I shouldn't. Much fun has been had and after the roaring success of this game I'm going back to semi-retirement.

Great game Arrows, I'm really looking forward to the post-game. :)

[bak42]

I just noticed, I'm directly responsible for keeping the Sonians from having a perfect game.

[djthefunkchris]

I knew you were recruiting.:cool:

I was rooting for Sonia way before I died, was funny as hell.

[ShadowedFlames]

I knew you were recruiting.:cool:

I was rooting for Sonia way before I died, was funny as hell.

The bak recruit was our only shot at it, actually. It was Banger's powerup to eayragt.

[Wallbanger]

I just noticed, I'm directly responsible for keeping the Sonians from having a perfect game.

And you were rewarded for your good play.

Not bad for starting vanilla. :D

[Ranson]

Bah. Bah, I say.

:D

[djthefunkchris]

ShadowedFlames
eayragt
bak42

Out of everyone, these are the one's that got me. SF when he boldly let us know, had no idea about Eay or bak.

The rest.... I just knew something was up, but wasn't able to do much about it. I kept getting DeadCeleb mixed with Smartbomb on top of it.

[Wallbanger]

Mayhaps, Ranson, do you have any wool? :p

[djthefunkchris]

The bak recruit was our only shot at it, actually. It was Banger's powerup to eayragt.

I can see that now that you pointed it out. Destiny was the one that kept getting me off Banger's back. Bluestar getting a note about Crychon made me wonder about my own, about Derek. I knew deep down something was up with Banger and Derek, but only one time was I able to get enough momentum in the thread to do anything about it....

Was a time I could easily get momentum just by talking.... but time away I guess, well.... At least I live longer these days.

[ShadowedFlames]

Remember, DJ, that up until the final night phase, bak was town. I don't think you can be faulted for missing that one.

[djthefunkchris]

Remember, DJ, that up until the final night phase, bak was town. I don't think you can be faulted for missing that one.

I purposely targeted Derek for protection, so I could see myself AND him in the thread... I was going to go all out on lynching him the next phase if I seen anything weird... but I ended up dead.

That in itself sucked, because I finally had an ability that I could do something with... And the only people I felt genuinely needed protection was Myself or Blue.. at least in my head. So I used the protection to try to see something in the write-up and it backfired.

For the life of me, I could hardly get anything out of the write-ups, because to me it seemed like no one could 100% say this or that was them in the write-ups.... So everything had to be done in the thread (again).

The only reason I voted for you, because to me you're always town whenever I play... Is because you said you had some sort of restriction on your posts, which was ridiculous considering Arrow's rant in the sign-up thread.

[djthefunkchris]

Oh, in case it wasn't obvious... I think you guys played one GREAT game! Loved it all, especially the ending with everyone coming out of the woodwork.

Nothing was better then trying to lynch SF though... I will remember this game for that alone. The "Tick, Tock" thing, I knew was a sign of the end of the game. Seeing everyone come out... Just awesome stuff!

[Ranson]

Yeah, I can't wait for the writeups. I just wish my investigations had been more useful. Not once did I get a non-town result, and with the 50/50 shot on results, it didn't do a lot of good. I also started targeting townie/unknown (or suspicious, in my opinion) so that if I did get a result, I could point someone out.

I think a big flaw in my own reasoning was not guessing that Sonia could recruit.

[djthefunkchris]

Yeah, I can't wait for the writeups. I just wish my investigations had been more useful. Not once did I get a non-town result, and with the 50/50 shot on results, it didn't do a lot of good. I also started targeting townie/unknown (or suspicious, in my opinion) so that if I did get a result, I could point someone out.

I think a big flaw in my own reasoning was not guessing that Sonia could recruit.

I guess they only had one person they could recruit though, so you weren't really off on that.

[bak42]

Remember, DJ, that up until the final night phase, bak was town. I don't think you can be faulted for missing that one.

Interestingly enough, pre-game I was Sonian. My original role title was Neah, Humanity Aligned Dying Former Sonian.

[djthefunkchris]

Interestingly enough, pre-game I was Sonian. My original role title was Neah, Humanity Aligned Dying Former Sonian.

I'm going to have to admit, had you died and I seen that role... It would have seriously confused me, lol.

[Arrows]

Yeah.

I was kind of a prick with role titles.

[eayragt]

Interestingly enough, pre-game I was Sonian. My original role title was Neah, Humanity Aligned Dying Former Sonian.

Hilarious, we never realised!

Good game Arrows. We were a powerful scum group, but I don't think overpowered considering we were the only scum group, 5 people out of 25. I hope others agree. And I loved Wallbanger's role... and how we failed to utilise it properly until the end of the game.

[djthefunkchris]

Hilarious, we never realised!

Good game Arrows. We were a powerful scum group, but I don't think overpowered considering we were the only scum group, 5 people out of 25. I hope others agree. And I loved Wallbanger's role... and how we failed to utilise it properly until the end of the game.

I'd have to see the mechanics of the game to be honest, but I never felt it was overpowered. I just feel like the scum did an outstanding job, had to be pretty good at communicating as well, which is always a HUGE pluss for scum, if they can keep communication up in the thread.

I like the way Wallbanger sets up forums as scum, with all information being easy to get to. I use similar tactics everytime I am scum, but somehow I don't think I'm ever able to get people to utilize them as well. I'm guessing things went pretty smooth there.

Great team! New respect for Eay! Wallbanger, Derek and SF, I wouldn't have expected less from. Just totally blown away by this game, one of the funnest games I have ever played, and I don't mind losing when it had to do more with skill then game set-up. Old School scum team in action.... Got rid of Gonvick, somehow set him up to look very bad.. got him lynched... That alone should get some kind of award.... I even, although hesitantly, voted on Gonvick.

Just great playing guys... Cheers!

[Wallbanger]

Hilarious, we never realised!

Good game Arrows. We were a powerful scum group, but I don't think overpowered considering we were the only scum group, 5 people out of 25. I hope others agree. And I loved Wallbanger's role... and how we failed to utilise it properly until the end of the game.


I don't think we used it poorly, to be honest. In fact we got really good value for it, considering that I'm usually scrutinized pretty heavily, I got the chance to present a strong townie vibe in thread. That was way more valuable than the vote I would get from my target, at least early on. It let me live long enough for the stolen vote to matter.

It was a wildcard role, to be sure. Handing Destiny a second resurrection? Turning bak into a watcher? Definitely used against us, and we were lucky it didn't hurt us more than it did.

I was hesitant at first to target our own, because I thought there had to be a mechanical drawback to it. But once we tested it safely it was vital to get E powered up to make the recruit that sealed things for us.

[Wallbanger]

Actually, SF set up the board, DJ. That being said, it was very similar to how I typically will do it. It's evolved some from my early scum/mason boards, and folks have just kind of settled into the basic design.

[djthefunkchris]

Actually, SF set up the board, DJ. That being said, it was very similar to how I typically will do it. It's evolved some from my early scum/mason boards, and folks have just kind of settled into the basic design.

/nod. I think you set the standard way back when, but it was slow catching on. Most of the scum groups I been in never sets a board up, or don't know how to make a forum for one, or sometimes don't even know that it's a good idea to do so... I remember playing as scum on one team that I was the only one that posted anything in a forum that they made, till the game was half over.

All that being said, I'm blown away by Eay's performance in this game. He led me around by the nose/bill.... "Quack Quack".

Your cover was awesome though.... Just seemed so obviously scummy in the write-ups, that it felt "off" to just assume it as scum. And the whole "You being alive right now... Your welcome!" when I was certainly going to lead a lynch on you, if I could get backing..... Just so well played by everyone. Every one of you had me fooled at one point or another.

[Arrows]

/nod. I think you set the standard way back when, but it was slow catching on. Most of the scum groups I been in never sets a board up, or don't know how to make a forum for one, or sometimes don't even know that it's a good idea to do so... I remember playing as scum on one team that I was the only one that posted anything in a forum that they made, till the game was half over.

All that being said, I'm blown away by Eay's performance in this game. He led me around by the nose/bill.... "Quack Quack".

Your cover was awesome though.... Just seemed so obviously scummy in the write-ups, that it felt "off" to just assume it as scum. And the whole "You being alive right now... Your welcome!" when I was certainly going to lead a lynch on you, if I could get backing..... Just so well played by everyone. Every one of you had me fooled at one point or another.

Eay was the one in the write ups doing the quacking mocks.:p

[Wallbanger]

I think DC made a good accounting of himself to, even though he got caught out (which was partially my fault).

It was his first time playing scum, and he did really well.

[djthefunkchris]

I think DC made a good accounting of himself to, even though he got caught out (which was partially my fault).

It was his first time playing scum, and he did really well.

No doubt. I kept getting him and Smartbomb confused, and I still can't figure out exactly why... outside of both names being kind of the same size and two words.

My hats off to the WHOLE team! I guess I should have stressed that more. A team is only as good as it's weakest link, and there were no weak links, as far as I can see.

The parts I pointed out (SF basically letting everyone know who he is in the thread, etc.), are just "fun" area's of the game that make it probably the most fun game I have ever played on here. Definately won't be able to forget this one for a good while.

Thanks Arrows, great mod job! Thanks everyone else that played! I had a ton of fun!

[djthefunkchris]

I really wish that Derek would have told me who you guys wanted me to protect though.... I was trying to get him to say something in the thread, and before it hit me I already mentioned I wouldn't be there by the time night phase hit.

Guess it doesn't matter, since I was killed anyways.

[moon_lit_tears]

I think DC made a good accounting of himself to, even though he got caught out (which was partially my fault).

It was his first time playing scum, and he did really well.

And for the record I think it's only his second game. Which I'm proud of him. He plays quite well. :)

Also, I remember being in a group with Banger and Anti and we never used aboard. We just talked via PM which got kind of interesting. I always felt dirty being in a three way conversation with those two....

[Wallbanger]

Ah, yes, OVER9K, good times.

With only three, you can get away with PM's, any larger than that and you have to use a board.

And only DC's second game overall? He's making a good case for ROY if he keeps this up.

[djthefunkchris]

I support any and all awards for this game at this time, as I don't expect the big "mechanics" reveal to actually make me feel there was any balance issue's.

I lose quite often, and I don't usually feel this good about it.

[djthefunkchris]

Eay was the one in the write ups doing the quacking mocks.:p

Yeah, it would have to be.... Because that makes it all that much funnier.:cool:

Maybe you can explain what was meant in my role PM though?


There's a chance your targets would've died from shock at seeing a large talking duck, anyway.

[Arrows]

Yeah, it would have to be.... Because that makes it all that much funnier.:cool:

Maybe you can explain what was meant in my role PM though?

Was a small chance of it happening. Woulda just been some random, completely unexpexcted hilarity.

[BHK1978]

I would like to apologize to everyone for not being around for what ended up being my final day phase. My computer monitor died and so I was not able to get on here. I just hated the fact that my last post was my last post, I would not give up on a game just because I felt a role was overpowered as that is not fair to Arrows or MLT. So I do apologize for that.

Now as to if I think the role was overpowered after finding out how the role worked. Well I would say that from a game mechanic standpoint, no it was not overpowered. However, from an in game standpoint I would say it was.

Just for the simple fact that once the town found out they could not lynch a player, there was little to no chance that the town would go back after that player. Despite the fact that the player was then vulnerable after the death of a member of his team.

With the town having no way to know if the role was now lynchable, it really makes that role almost unkillable so to speak. Now like I said from a game mechanic standpoint I do not think the role was that overpowered, heck Arrows pretty much spelled out how to kill him in the write-up, the bit about how his guards surrounded him so nobody could get at him.

As for Scum boards, everytime I am Scum I am usually the only one that posts on the board. I am not sure if it is because I annoy others or what but that tends to be the case. The funny thing is I remember being on a Scum team with DJ and we were the only two that talked, once he was gone the rest of the team did not even bother talking to me.

[djthefunkchris]

As for Scum boards, everytime I am Scum I am usually the only one that posts on the board. I am not sure if it is because I annoy others or what but that tends to be the case. The funny thing is I remember being on a Scum team with DJ and we were the only two that talked, once he was gone the rest of the team did not even bother talking to me.
I can't talk for the rest of them, but I was scum with Wallbanger, we posted... I have been on a team that Derek was on, he died as I come onto that team, and He was very active before his lynch or death (on the boards). Outlaw is active...

Basically the most active one's all have won awards for playing this game. They go hand in hand. If your scum and your team is active, you will be a force to recon with, even if there are balance issue's... I played one game that Imarevenant helped mod, and realised the team I was on didn't have a chance if I went through with my actual characters win condition, although several of times I could have in the game.... Which was get rid of the DON. I was on a scum team that didn't have anything to protect themselves from investigations etc. The team was pretty small in comparison to how many players, and there was also a second team, which made it even worse. First game that particular person modded, but with Imarevenant's help, I think we all made the right decisions as far as trying to make the game work (and fun for all players).

Sometimes games are just unbalanced like that. IF your scum, if the town has this, you have to have that.... Something I posted about in some of the discussions about balance. I didn't play alot of the games I seen were unbalanced like that, but those I did, just was a losing battle, no matter how good your team is.

What I'm saying, is if the town has a vigilante, the scum need a protector. IF town has an investigator, scum need a framer, etc. "Balance". Goes the other way as well... For every killer in the game, there should be a protector of the opposite... IT doesn't have to be "Exactly" that, but a role that does something similar... An investigator vs. a bus driver role, for example... IT doesn't have to be "exactly" the same, but there has to be a way... In this case, the scum had a way to manipulate a lynch when numbers mattered (don't know exactly how that worked yet, but from people's posts, I gather numbers had something to do with it... and buying votes).

[Wallbanger]

If scum aren't talking (AND LISTENING) to each other outside of thread, they're doomed. A rogue player can, intentionally or not, completely screw over the team.

[Ranson]

I seem to remember looking at the scum board post-Dr. Horrible and being amazd at some of the strategy there.

[bak42]

I would like to apologize to everyone for not being around for what ended up being my final day phase. My computer monitor died and so I was not able to get on here. I just hated the fact that my last post was my last post, I would not give up on a game just because I felt a role was overpowered as that is not fair to Arrows or MLT. So I do apologize for that.

Now as to if I think the role was overpowered after finding out how the role worked. Well I would say that from a game mechanic standpoint, no it was not overpowered. However, from an in game standpoint I would say it was.

Just for the simple fact that once the town found out they could not lynch a player, there was little to no chance that the town would go back after that player. Despite the fact that the player was then vulnerable after the death of a member of his team. And yet, there were two attempts to lynch SF where majority was achieved but his invulnerability was still in effect and even after the lynch of DC there were attempts but a bandwagon just never managed to get going.

[BHK1978]

Basically the most active one's all have won awards for playing this game. They go hand in hand. If your scum and your team is active, you will be a force to recon with, even if there are balance issue's... I played one game that Imarevenant helped mod, and realised the team I was on didn't have a chance if I went through with my actual characters win condition, although several of times I could have in the game.... Which was get rid of the DON. I was on a scum team that didn't have anything to protect themselves from investigations etc. The team was pretty small in comparison to how many players, and there was also a second team, which made it even worse. First game that particular person modded, but with Imarevenant's help, I think we all made the right decisions as far as trying to make the game work (and fun for all players).

That was the game I was talking about where we were teammates. You and I were active on the Scum boards, our other two teammates were not at all. I even remember thinking about helping you out when you needed to kill the Don because I was ticked off that our teammates would not talk in the Scum thread and neither one of them were posting much in the actual thread either.

If scum aren't talking (AND LISTENING) to each other outside of thread, they're doomed. A rogue player can, intentionally or not, completely screw over the team.

I agree 100% with this, I have had rogue players on my team twice when I was Scum. Once it did not matter because my team won, the second time I was dead before the player went rogue but it still hurt the rest of the players.

[ShadowedFlames]

NOTE: Scum players and the mods for this game should take note of the changed address and update your bookmarks accordingly.

Since I am paying for hosting for the WreSpi2 project I've been running, I figured I'd use my site to host the scum boards for this game. Even with that project soon to end, I'll keep up the hosting since it's $15 for a year, and if the time comes to restart that project, well...I'll be ready.

Anyway, I say that because I'd be willing to allow folks to use the boards I set up for future scum/mason boards, if they so choose. I'm not sure I'd be playing too many more games, so conflict of interest would likely not be an issue--and if I did play, I'd simply not offer to host for that game.

That said, I'm trying out settings to make sure that this plan would actually work, so I'll do that at the same time as I open the boards for general viewing. (http://shadowedflames.net/GDS-Mafia-Boards/)

[BHK1978]

And yet, there were two attempts to lynch SF where majority was achieved but his invulnerability was still in effect and even after the lynch of DC there were attempts but a bandwagon just never managed to get going.

That is what I am saying though, for the Scum voting on SF did not matter because nothing was going to happen to him either way. So of course there were two attempts where majority reached because Scum could afford to vote on him.

Once he became vulnerable there were attempts to get him but once again a bandwagon could never get going, just for the simple fact that there was doubt about if he could be lynched or not. That was my point about the role being overpowered in the thread and not mechanics wise. Because we as a town had no way of knowing how to kill him.

I had what I thought was an overpowered role twice. It was where I could invade people's minds and have them kill for me. It was overpowered in the thread in the sense that nobody would ever catch me killing anyone. Mechanics wise it was not because the town and scum could have lynched me or I could have been night killed.

[djthefunkchris]

I watched what I felt looked really scummy posts by Wallbanger early on with that as well... As he posted without voting, then Eay, etc. No one was voting but who I imagined was town at that time (after I was dead).

Knew when I seen SF post, something interesting was going to happen there, lol.

[djthefunkchris]

After going over the boards a little... Yeah, definitely impressed with Eay! My choice for some type of award, best scum in day phase or something, can't remember what the awards are as they have grown so much.

DeadCeleb as newbie of the year!!

I can't read anymore..... I don't want to see anyone laughing at me, lol.

[Jman2k3]

Great game.

I wonder if I was close to fullfilling my win condition. :confused:

[Arrows]

Great game.

I wonder if I was close to fullfilling my win condition. :confused:

Nope.:( People kept not doing it.

[Ranson]

Just finished the scum boards. Wow.

At least I turned out to be considered mildly dangerous. :D

[Jman2k3]

Nope.:( People kept not doing it.

I'm sad. :(

[Wallbanger]

That is what I am saying though, for the Scum voting on SF did not matter because nothing was going to happen to him either way. So of course there were two attempts where majority reached because Scum could afford to vote on him.

Once he became vulnerable there were attempts to get him but once again a bandwagon could never get going, just for the simple fact that there was doubt about if he could be lynched or not. That was my point about the role being overpowered in the thread and not mechanics wise. Because we as a town had no way of knowing how to kill him.

I had what I thought was an overpowered role twice. It was where I could invade people's minds and have them kill for me. It was overpowered in the thread in the sense that nobody would ever catch me killing anyone. Mechanics wise it was not because the town and scum could have lynched me or I could have been night killed.

Something to keep in mind, though, is that if any of us had died early, his invulnerability doesn't come into play at all. It was a relatively rare combination of events that kept us intact that far in. It became more powerful in a thread sense as we got further along.

[Wallbanger]

And there were opportunities - DJ went after Derek almost immediately. mich attacked me N3, and if mach hadn't protected me I'd have been out of the game.

[djthefunkchris]

And there were opportunities - DJ went after Derek almost immediately. mich attacked me N3, and if mach hadn't protected me I'd have been out of the game.

I keep telling Derek the same thing every game he's scum. He gives himself away by doing exactly almost word for word, the same exact thing. Doesn't matter if there is truth to it or not, it's the same... obviously he had alot more time for the scum boards, which is where my head was with him.

As scum, doesn't matter if he posts a lot or not, the tell tell sign of him is coming in, acknowledging what has been going on, not acting or doing anything on it at all, but just acknowledge that it exists, maybe throw a vote out (doesn't matter). Then he dips. Mostly he comes in and says a lot of nothing, period.

The reason I notice it is because Anti picked up on me doing EXACTLY the same thing. Every time I point it out to Derek, it's just so he can try to "fix" that, as I try to fix my own flaws as far as that goes. I see it works with other's, and even this game he had me fooled more then a few times with the exact strategy he talked about on the board (IF the other warning comes up town, it will confuse DJ, and it did so). The only reason I didn't stay on him is because Crychon was town and I was almost certain of that... IF not for that, the claim and all had no effect on why I felt he was scum... even the message I got was only something I could use as a way to get people to get on board with me.

You on the other hand... Same thing really. I think we are all guilty of it, it's just that you didn't do the thing I notice you do most of the time, which is try to figure out what a town member does in almost a bullying type of way. You didn't do that all game.... if you had I would have been more for you. Fact is, you never really "felt" scummy to me. I was, how do you say.... Pleasantly surprised you ended up to be scum after all.

Shadowed doesn't post much, I always expect him to be town, and he blew my mind this game. DeadCeleb did a great job of covering his tracks.

I can't say enough about Eayagt though... Amazing!!

My Avatar being the only other game I ever come back to life with, I could of understood any confusion me coming back might have caused, although I was the second person to come back. I certainly wasn't going to change my avatar at that point, to make it less suspicious.

[Crychon]

The Sonia Alignment Has Won.

Winners:

ShadowedFlames
eayragt
DeadCeleb
Derek B
Wallbanger
bak42

...That's a pretty big group for a game this size.

[Imarevenant]

Ugghhh I was totally useless this game, sorry about that Arrows.

Going to be a while before I play a another game, I can not balance Mafia or anything else with the stay at home dad thing.

[Crychon]

Also, given the players involved and the unlynchable role, we were pretty doomed from the start.

[Crychon]

I'm sad I never got to claim how I wanted to. :(

http://youtu.be/9_asu7n6QUc

EDIT: WARNING: Bad rap song with semi-offensive language

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm sad I never got to claim how I wanted to. :(

http://youtu.be/9_asu7n6QUc

EDIT: WARNING: Bad rap song with semi-offensive language

I love that song!

That link won't let you view it though....:p

[djthefunkchris]

I love that song!

That link won't let you view it though....:p

You just have to log in to let Youtube know your not 10.... but in your case, probably need to wait til' your a little bit older.:p

[Crychon]

I love that song!

That link won't let you view it though....:p

Hmm... It works when I click it, that's odd.

Yeah... I had this video ready to fire as soon as I had to claim, but I never really saw a good opportunity to use it.

[moon_lit_tears]

You just have to log in to let Youtube know your not 10.... but in your case, probably need to wait til' your a little bit older.:p


Just because I'm not old and wrinkled like you doesn't mean I'm not old enough to view that video ser. :p

And

I just clicked, and closed. Didn't realize I had to log in...Blonde moment. :)

[djthefunkchris]

Just because I'm not old and wrinkled like you doesn't mean I'm not old enough to view that video ser. :p

No wrinkle's yet (knock on wood). Have a few grey hairs now, but it's nothing I don't see on guys much younger then myself.

[moon_lit_tears]

No wrinkle's yet (knock on wood). Have a few grey hairs now, but it's nothing I don't see on guys much younger then myself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks though. The laugh helped. :p

[djthefunkchris]

Hmm... It works when I click it, that's odd.

Yeah... I had this video ready to fire as soon as I had to claim, but I never really saw a good opportunity to use it.

As long as I was alive, I don't think I would have let a lynch get you... I knew you had the gem.

My character was from a tribe that protects the "True" gem, but I don't know about the other color's... just the one you had was a "lesser" one. I was afraid if I died, that they could find the main gem, which would have ended all life.

I sorted things out after my first death though, and realized I was going a bit too far with it, but I kept on it hoping that scum member's might believe that the world would end if they followed their leader... I was trying to make up hints as if they could switch on their leader and win... Never know if someone might believe such a thing or not. We have been able to get Arrows to work for the town as a psycho or whatever in prior games, so..... was hoping the dog beast would attack scum.

[Arrows]

As long as I was alive, I don't think I would have let a lynch get you... I knew you had the gem.

My character was from a tribe that protects the "True" gem, but I don't know about the other color's... just the one you had was a "lesser" one. I was afraid if I died, that they could find the main gem, which would have ended all life.

I sorted things out after my first death though, and realized I was going a bit too far with it, but I kept on it hoping that scum member's might believe that the world would end if they followed their leader... I was trying to make up hints as if they could switch on their leader and win... Never know if someone might believe such a thing or not. We have been able to get Arrows to work for the town as a psycho or whatever in prior games, so..... was hoping the dog beast would attack scum.

Dog did attack Banger.

Mach saved Banger from death.

Woulda changed so so much.

[mjdgoldeneye]

...That's a pretty big group for a game this size.

Also, given the players involved and the unlynchable role, we were pretty doomed from the start.

Yea, probably that... :p

I wasn't much help, so I can't say much.

[djthefunkchris]

Dog did attack Banger.

Mach saved Banger from death.

Woulda changed so so much.

Just knowing for sure Wallbanger was scum would have opened a whole lot of eyes I think...

Yea, probably that... :p

I wasn't much help, so I can't say much.
No, you weren't much help.... You help more when your scum, what's up with that?:cool: Just kidding:p.

On topic of what you were responding to. You get a good scum team like that, with everyone being active and on point, and the abilities you need to achieve your goal, yeah... Kind of hard to beat them.

They were beatable though, that's what makes it all that more special. They basically led the town to the town's own demise.

[BHK1978]

On topic of what you were responding to. You get a good scum team like that, with everyone being active and on point, and the abilities you need to achieve your goal, yeah... Kind of hard to beat them.

They were beatable though, that's what makes it all that more special. They basically led the town to the town's own demise.

Not really though I mean I had a feeling that both Banger and Eay were scum and said as much in the thread. With Eay it is when he does not call me scum that I think he is scum and has something to hide.:D

With Banger I just had a feeling, there was nothing he did or did not do in thread that made him come across as scum but it was just a vibe that I got. Then again I thought both JB/Zeel and Smartbomb were scum and I was wrong about them so who knows.

The thing about Wallbanger is, he is very hard to lynch because he is a respected and likable player. He much like Undertaker is someone that you need ironclad proof on or there is no way you will be able to lynch him.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Just knowing for sure Wallbanger was scum would have opened a whole lot of eyes I think...


No, you weren't much help.... You help more when your scum, what's up with that?:cool: Just kidding:p.

On topic of what you were responding to. You get a good scum team like that, with everyone being active and on point, and the abilities you need to achieve your goal, yeah... Kind of hard to beat them.

They were beatable though, that's what makes it all that more special. They basically led the town to the town's own demise.

Well, there were really THE active players... Look at the post counts... :p

Plus, we TRIED to lynch one of them and it just didn't work. There wasn't a lot of effort and, when there was, it led to dead ends.

It would have been a close game if more townies were around, but it still would have been hard mode.

[Wallbanger]

If the town vig had not been an early inactive it would have made a HUGE difference for you. The chances of us making it fully intact by the time SF was challenged would have been very slim.

Figuring out that mich was the beast was a huge event for us, we effectively controlled all night kills until Zeel stepped in. If E is killed early by JackalBane that doesn't happen.

I very much understand how frustrating it must have felt. But really it wasn't 'hard mode' for town, we got very lucky on multiple occasions and were able to capitalize.

[SmartBomb]

/frustrated

Next person to give me a semi-invincible role is on my hotlist whenever I get my SK role.

Good game scum by all of you. Very well played.

[eayragt]

I can see why town must be frustrated, but there were so many close moments. Mach protecting 'Banger was massive - with him dead SF would have been lynched, someone would have eventually questioned what it as I actually do (as I was being so open about what I was doing (well... sort of open, I lied about half my targets knowing if anyone saw anything different I could shrug and go "bus driver?") I managed to make it almost impossible to claim any usual ability), we would have never been able to recruit an additional player... basically if everything else continued as it actually happended we'd be at 2 scum (Derek and me) vs 9 town at the point the game ended. I'd like to think that such a minor event like that would make the town realise they were not doomed from the start at all - some things fell very nicely for our scum group and we ran with it.

Also the second day when the attempted SF lynch went through was crucial - after that failed town moved onto Zeel, and once he claimed vig momentum stopped. The following day Smartbomb figured out michgcs must be the dog, but there was no more information gained that day than previously available. If town had lynched mich at that point suddenly the kills reduce. I personally think this was our most important day - a no lynch and we found out who the vig was (which allowed me to direct him later).

80% of the time SF's invunerability never comes into play. Looking at the set up I think that the scum have pretty close to 50% chance of winning, and I like that. I used to see a lot of games which were seemed to be set up to give town 70% chance of winning and two scum groups fighting over the scraps. Although that keeps the masses happy (as more people are town, therefore its more liley more people get the win), it's a little harsh on scum. I'm not sure if people agree on that, as I know I've had debates where we've agreed to disagree.

DJ - thanks for your kind words, but this really is the first time I've had any influence on a scum victory - the scum wins I've had before I've died early not influencing things. I was quite fortunate I was able to pick myself out in the write-ups, and as I wasn't killing that was enough for town to leave me alone. I also managed to get obsessed with trying to kill Bluestar on the scum boards, which I think managed to get annoying.

BHK - next time I'm scum I'll call you scum if that'd make you feel better ;). I couldn't really in this game as you were in the write up as an old man not killing. As I was surviving based purely on being a young girl not killing in the write-ups questioning you would just leave me open to exactly the same questions, and I didn't have an answer because I didn't have a clue wat my ability claim was going to be!

Jman -I do kinda feel bad we lynched you in a couple of hours :( I'm looking forward to Arrows posting more about you.

[djthefunkchris]

eayragt ; You would have to have a great scum game when I played, huh?

I know what went through my head all game, and out of your whole scum group, you were the only one I seriously was completely fooled by. When ever you went off into something I thought was wrong, I just felt you were trying to be helpful the whole darn time. I honestly can't recall being so fooled in any game before, so this is why I'm making a big deal out of it.

There have been games I have been town in and basically called them all out by like day two or three... Every one of them and been spot on.... Of course I died by N3 or N4, but I went back to see who was scum at the end of the game.

I wish I could say you won't be able to get me like that again, but right now I'm totally caught off guard, and can't put a finger on anything you actually did that would give me a hint for next time.

[SmartBomb]

btw, loved the idea of giving a returning town character a scum role.

[Arrows]

btw, loved the idea of giving a returning town character a scum role.

The town was even given a way to sorta get the feeling about this. After Crych targeted Derek and nothing happened, I kinda expected Derek to jump back to the top of the most wanted list.

[djthefunkchris]

The town was even given a way to sorta get the feeling about this. After Crych targeted Derek and nothing happened, I kinda expected Derek to jump back to the top of the most wanted list.

Why did Bluestar get a warning about Crychon?

[Arrows]

Why did Bluestar get a warning about Crychon?

An'Son. Same reason you got yours.

[Wallbanger]

So what was An'Son's goal? To get the Mickey Mouse Club killed?

[Arrows]

So what was An'Son's goal? To get the Mickey Mouse Club killed?

To have people do what he wanted.

He just got unlucky on his targets. One was inactive, one had no ability(DJ), and Blue didn't use his roleblock on Crych.

Just needed a few people to target who he told em to.

[djthefunkchris]

Dog did attack Banger.

Mach saved Banger from death.

Woulda changed so so much.

/nod. Sounds like Banger had more then most of us fooled with his "Power-Up" thing going on...

[djthefunkchris]

eayragt ; You would have to have a great scum game when I played, huh?

I know what went through my head all game, and out of your whole scum group, you were the only one I seriously was completely fooled by. When ever you went off into something I thought was wrong, I just felt you were trying to be helpful the whole darn time. I honestly can't recall being so fooled in any game before, so this is why I'm making a big deal out of it.

There have been games I have been town in and basically called them all out by like day two or three... Every one of them and been spot on.... Of course I died by N3 or N4, but I went back to see who was scum at the end of the game.

I wish I could say you won't be able to get me like that again, but right now I'm totally caught off guard, and can't put a finger on anything you actually did that would give me a hint for next time.
I know I can't be the only one that has done this... How many times have you guys had notes, had exactly who the scum was in those notes... but end up dieing in a night phase, wait til' the end of the game and find out you were right... IF only you would have been more confident about it, things might have been different!!

That's what I'm talking about here.

[Crychon]

If the town vig had not been an early inactive it would have made a HUGE difference for you. The chances of us making it fully intact by the time SF was challenged would have been very slim.

Figuring out that mich was the beast was a huge event for us, we effectively controlled all night kills until Zeel stepped in. If E is killed early by JackalBane that doesn't happen.

I very much understand how frustrating it must have felt. But really it wasn't 'hard mode' for town, we got very lucky on multiple occasions and were able to capitalize.

If I was the vig, DeadCeleb wouldn't have lasted very long.

The town was even given a way to sorta get the feeling about this. After Crych targeted Derek and nothing happened, I kinda expected Derek to jump back to the top of the most wanted list.

Yeah, I definitely should've stopped trusting him at that point. Bad play trusting him on my part.

Trusting Derek at all is generally a bad play for me, though, as we're always on the other side.

Also, even though you didn't directly kill me, I'll have my revenge on you Derek! *shakes fist*