The Official WWE Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Slagaholic]

Watched Big Show's appearance on Royal Pains. He blades. I found it ironic.

[GatorBait19]

I gave you guys the warning about Sheamus winning

[TNAfan123]

TMZ.com broke the story on Monday morning that former WWE superstar Dave Batista is becoming a professional Mixed Martial Arts fighter.

The 6'5", 290 pound Batista was in Hollywood over weekend and told TMZ that he's headed to the Strikeforce MMA promotion, home of another former WWE superstar, Bobby Lashley.

Batista even told the TMZ camera guy that he already has his first fight lined up, but can't comment on it just yet.

There have been rumors for months that the 41 year old Batista would be following in the footsteps of Brock Lesnar and Bobby Lashley. Now, its official
So how do you thinks he's going to do? I for one think that age is not on his side here but wel see what happens.

[Jaysin]

Batista is going to get destroyed. Simple as that. Brock and Bobby had youth on their side.

[The Final Countdown]

I've followed that man's entire career...don't you doubt him now!
I've doubted him from the first match I saw him in (towards the end of his run on ECW, I think.) He's done nothing to change my mind since.

Batista is going to get destroyed. Simple as that. Brock and Bobby had youth on their side.
Not to mention, Lesnar and Lashley had a solid base to start with as former amateur wrestlers. I don't think Batista has any real training in an actual fighting discipline.

[ampulator]

Not to mention that Batista's INNER physical isn't actually as good as he's outside.

[Gabbo]

Batista's inner physicals are great - he can walk for miles inside pits of danger. That sort of stamina will really help him in the cage.

[GatorBait19]

Batista is going to get destroyed. Simple as that. Brock and Bobby had youth on their side.

Plus the fact the had a history of wrestling before hand. Like real wrestling not Wrastling

[Slagaholic]

The report is reportedly false.

[Candyman]

Batista is going to get destroyed. Simple as that. Brock and Bobby had youth on their side.

Plus the fact the had a history of wrestling before hand. Like real wrestling not Wrastling

You mean like Hershel Walker's history of wrestling? It TOTALLY depends on who Batista's opponent is. To say he's going to get destroyed without knowing who he'll be in the cage with is just silly.

[Jaysin]

You mean like Hershel Walker's history of wrestling? It TOTALLY depends on who Batista's opponent is. To say he's going to get destroyed without knowing who he'll be in the cage with is just silly.

Have you ever watched Batista? He has no stamina. He's winded after his entrance. He won't make it in MMA

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Have you ever watched Batista? He has no stamina. He's winded after his entrance. He won't make it in MMA

Unless he is like Lesnar and just GnP's the life out of them in the first 2-3 mins.

[Slagaholic]

To GnP you have to have the skills to get them to the G before you can P. Batista doesn't have that.

[GatorBait19]

You mean like Hershel Walker's history of wrestling? It TOTALLY depends on who Batista's opponent is. To say he's going to get destroyed without knowing who he'll be in the cage with is just silly.

1) I never said he would get destroied

2) Didn't Batista get beat up by Booker T back before Summerslam a while ago?


But Strikeforce has a way of hand feeding opponets to newer fighters.

[Teh_Showtime]

To GnP you have to have the skills to get them to the G before you can P. Batista doesn't have that.

this

Lesnar was a certified wrestler and went like 200-1 or something

batista will have problems unless he can get into great shape because he looks really stiff, and on the ground he'll be done

[Self]

I would pay to watch Batista fight a man.

[Linsolv]

As much as I tend to agree that he'll get destroyed, this seems totally typical for Batista. Every comment I've heard regarding his backstage demeanor is that he's an ungrateful jerk with no respect for the business.

[Jaysin]

As much as I tend to agree that he'll get destroyed, this seems totally typical for Batista. Every comment I've heard regarding his backstage demeanor is that he's an ungrateful jerk with no respect for the business.

Which is why I wish someone took a cell phone video or something of Booker kicking the crap out of him :p

[alden]

Batista is going to get killed. He is to old to start fighting. His stamina is odviously bad......As far as i can tell he has no amature background and no a few month in a dojo does not make you a fighter. I am going to laugh when he fails a test though. There is no way in hell he is going to make it a year. Lesner i knew would be good because he has the background. lashley well i think he is still trying to find his footing but he is doing good enough.......batista? no way in hell............

[eayragt]

Storyline-wise I liked the PPV.

Kane gets to feud with SES and then fights Punk at MITB. Then we likely find out it's not Punk, and Kane moves on...

I've been dying for Mysterio to turn heel for ages as he's blaaaaand, but they'll never do it for business reasons I can only agree with. But this actually gives him a purpose, a match (which hopefully he can win clean (which never happened in his first reign) with Swagger, then a DQ win against either Kane or Drew depending on which route they go down. Suits me.

Seeing Jericho vs Bourne on PPV rocked. People who worry about Jericho don't need to - he got the skills and charisma to build himself up as a legitimate threat in a couple of months.

Cena gets to feud to NXT without it being about the title. Also good. Although you could argue Cole got legit injured, there was no need for all three commentators to abort their positions, leading to the likely conclusion that Cole is the king-pin.

Kings sucks. Striker rocks. His colour was awesome.

And Sheamus goes... Triple Threat with Orton and Edge, I guess? That makes the MITB card:

Sheamus (c) vs Edge vs Orton
Mysterio (c) vs Swagger
Cena vs Barrett
Kane vs Punk
Men's cross brand MITB

with possibly:

Women's cross brand MITB
Hart Dynasty / Samoans

Looks good to me. There could be a second MITB match of some tyoe, or there are more midcard matches out there (Intercontinental / US / Drew (although all of them could be in MITB).

[Jaysin]

Women's cross brand MITB

That ranks up there with the Shockmaster as far as horrible ideas go. Beth and Nattie are about the only two in the company that could pull that match off...

[MrOnu]

That ranks up there with the Shockmaster as far as horrible ideas go. Beth and Nattie are about the only two in the company that could pull that match off...

On other the hand, it's the WWE were talking about. Then can probably come up with some kind of watered down ladder match for the divas and I'm not sure the average fan will notice. I mean, just have King have more heart attacks to cover the weak in-ring action... :rolleyes:

[Slim Jim]

And Sheamus goes... Triple Threat with Orton and Edge, I guess?

Fully expecting Triple H to return tonight to pick up their feud.

If they stick Orton and Edge into the MITB match, that'd make it seem like a huge deal. Doubt they will but I'd like it.

[Slagaholic]

Pretty sure HHH coming back to feud with Sheamus was the idea since before WrestleMania.

My money's on Sheamus to win the feud and retain the title. HHH has been in "beyond the title" status for a long time now. I think he's finally realized it.

[Slim Jim]

Unless he wants to beat Flair's record. Hell, even if he doesn't, I do want him to beat Flair's record.

[The Shape]

Fully expecting Triple H to return tonight to pick up their feud.

If they stick Orton and Edge into the MITB match, that'd make it seem like a huge deal. Doubt they will but I'd like it.

If Trips is "beyond the title" then Edge is definitely "beyond MITB" in terms of what he needs to pull off an OMG title win xD

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Storyline-wise I liked the PPV.

Kane gets to feud with SES and then fights Punk at MITB. Then we likely find out it's not Punk, and Kane moves on...

I've been dying for Mysterio to turn heel for ages as he's blaaaaand, but they'll never do it for business reasons I can only agree with. But this actually gives him a purpose, a match (which hopefully he can win clean (which never happened in his first reign) with Swagger, then a DQ win against either Kane or Drew depending on which route they go down. Suits me.

Seeing Jericho vs Bourne on PPV rocked. People who worry about Jericho don't need to - he got the skills and charisma to build himself up as a legitimate threat in a couple of months.

Cena gets to feud to NXT without it being about the title. Also good. Although you could argue Cole got legit injured, there was no need for all three commentators to abort their positions, leading to the likely conclusion that Cole is the king-pin.

Kings sucks. Striker rocks. His colour was awesome.

And Sheamus goes... Triple Threat with Orton and Edge, I guess? That makes the MITB card:

Sheamus (c) vs Edge vs Orton
Mysterio (c) vs Swagger
Cena vs Barrett
Kane vs Punk
Men's cross brand MITB

with possibly:

Women's cross brand MITB
Hart Dynasty / Samoans

Looks good to me. There could be a second MITB match of some tyoe, or there are more midcard matches out there (Intercontinental / US / Drew (although all of them could be in MITB).

There will be two MITB matches. One for each brand(each title anyway). I could see Kane going after Rey, even though he took out Punk last night.

[Teh_Showtime]

Unless he wants to beat Flair's record. Hell, even if he doesn't, I do want him to beat Flair's record.

why? Most of Flair's title runs were because he was that good (Bankability and in the ring for the most part) and HHH's came mostly in a time when the 'E was lacking stars (Post Austin/Rock, Pre Cena/Orton)

for that I give the edge to H, and this is excluding the politics cause Flair probably played his fair share too

[Stennick]

Oh Flair played TONS of politics. Until Hogan came around WCW/NWA didn't have that one franchise babyface. It wasn't Sting although he was there, it wasn't Luger although he was right there. Before that it wasn't Dusty. WCW was centered around Ric Flair, he lost the title to Ronnie Garvin just so he could win it back in a lame duck feud.

Ric is far from a saint.

[Master Gilmore]

The Grand Avatar is the new GM?

[LoganRodzen]

The Grand Avatar is the new GM?

Hahahah. The RAW GM is a laptop. Very appropriate for this day in age. ;)

[Teh_Showtime]

The Grand Avatar is the new GM?

this made me lol hard

[Teh_Showtime]

bai Jericho

edit: Y2J wins a good match, good thing he didnt take the JBL way out

[LoganRodzen]

DiBiase and Maryse = awesome. :D

[Teh_Showtime]

DiBiase and Maryse = awesome. :D

What are you going to do for protection?

Go to the drug store.

DiBiase is win

[Linsolv]

Speaking of the JBL way out -- Funny thing, my girlfriend works at a CVS. They sell WWE action figures (cheap ones, from the looks of them) and there's been the same JBL figure there for at least a year.

[The Celt]

The new GM is clearly Cole himself, that or 4chan's anon.

[Johnny Fenoli]

So, did they just drop the Guest Host thing? Is there supposed to be one tonight? Guess they couldnt fit the concept in anymore between all the in ring action...

[Teh_Showtime]

So, did they just drop the Guest Host thing? Is there supposed to be one tonight? Guess they couldnt fit the concept in anymore between all the in ring action...

I only stated watching raw on a regular basis 2/3 weeks ago but I think they scrapped it and made Hart the GM (who got fired tonight)

[Johnny Fenoli]

I only stated watching raw on a regular basis 2/3 weeks ago but I think they scrapped it and made Hart the GM (who got fired tonight)

Nope, think this is the first time since the start of it... last week was the co star from the show Big Show was on... week before that it was teh A-Team.... Before, that it was AShton Kutcher.

[SaySo]

Cena sucks chants lol. When will these ppl disappear from WWE TV. They should stick with ECW on TNN.

[GDE71]

Cena sucks chants lol. When will these ppl disappear from WWE TV. They should stick with ECW on TNN.

It was dueling Let's go Cena/Cena sucks chant...

[supershot]

It was dueling Let's go Cena/Cena sucks chant...

Are they in the same arena as Fatal 4 Way? They were doing it last night as well. Ive never heard is so loud an clear before!

[SaySo]

The same voices that chant Cena sucks are chanting Daniel Bryan...lol. They know what's best for the business eh.

[supershot]

The same voices that chant Cena sucks are chanting Daniel Bryan...lol. They know what's best for the business eh.

Add "NXT" to their vocabulary...

[GDE71]

I'm confused by the NXT stuff. Maybe that's the idea, but it's so start/stop start/stop that it's not as good as it could be IMO.

[Johnny Fenoli]

Well, that was confusing as hell... I just rewound the end over and over, to try and understand what happened... Vince admitted to being behind the Nexus... they're all in a good mood, then they're not... then they are... then they're not... then they beat up Vince... Clusterf^(K.... ??????? What did I miss that explains that....?

[SaySo]

Cena needs to use his look alikes from his WM ring entrance...i bet the numbers of Cena look-alikes will be a deterrent for the NXT infestation. I just can't see anyone beating an army of Cenas.

[Astil]

Well, that was confusing as hell... I just rewound the end over and over, to try and understand what happened... Vince admitted to being behind the Nexus... they're all in a good mood, then they're not... then they are... then they're not... then they beat up Vince... Clusterf^(K.... ??????? What did I miss that explains that....?

I think Vince TOOK CREDIT FOR the Nexus, because thats when moods soured...

[TNAfan123]

The new GM is clearly Cole himself, that or 4chan's anon.

It cant be Cole because Vince was talking to the GM on the phone while Cole was still in headset

[b0shey]

Its clearly Daniel Bryan thats the new GM :p

Maybe Vickie is the brain behind everything.... but i say its Abe Washington.

[TakerNGN74]

I could definately see Daniel Bryan being the new GM but I also heard rumors that Bryan was the one that drive the limo on the backstage NXT attack on Bret.

[b0shey]

PETA wants Daniel Bryan back in the WWE

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) sent a letter to Vince McMahon asking for Bryan Danielson to be hired back. In the letter PETA wrote, "I might not personally carry the same clout as other Bryan supporters like John Cena or Shawn Michaels (although I do consider myself 'The Showstopper of PETA'), but I am, along with many of my colleagues, a huge Daniel Bryan fan, not only because he humiliated the Miz and Michael Cole a few weeks back on Raw but also because he's vegan.

Just by being vegan, Bryan saves more than 100 animals a year, a feat far more impressive than any of Jack Swagger's 'accomplishments.' Savvy athletes go vegan for the health benefits, too, as they slash their risk of heart disease, cancer, and diabetes.

So what do you say, Mr. McMahon? Bring back Bryan and let him prove that he belongs. And maybe there could even be a storyline romance between Bryan and the gorgeous vegan diva Tiffany! (Who, in your PETA fans' opinion, deserves another shot at Layla.)"

Lol, thats funny.... go Danielson :D

[TakerNGN74]

PETA wants Daniel Bryan back in the WWE

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) sent a letter to Vince McMahon asking for Bryan Danielson to be hired back. In the letter PETA wrote, "I might not personally carry the same clout as other Bryan supporters like John Cena or Shawn Michaels (although I do consider myself 'The Showstopper of PETA'), but I am, along with many of my colleagues, a huge Daniel Bryan fan, not only because he humiliated the Miz and Michael Cole a few weeks back on Raw but also because he's vegan.

Just by being vegan, Bryan saves more than 100 animals a year, a feat far more impressive than any of Jack Swagger's 'accomplishments.' Savvy athletes go vegan for the health benefits, too, as they slash their risk of heart disease, cancer, and diabetes.

So what do you say, Mr. McMahon? Bring back Bryan and let him prove that he belongs. And maybe there could even be a storyline romance between Bryan and the gorgeous vegan diva Tiffany! (Who, in your PETA fans' opinion, deserves another shot at Layla.)"

Lol, thats funny.... go Danielson :D

Lol is that for real because I just don't see PETA as avid WWE fans and they might not be but the fact that PETA sent a letter to Vince says something.

[b0shey]

Lol is that for real because I just don't see PETA as avid WWE fans and they might not be but the fact that PETA sent a letter to Vince says something.

Posted on their blogg so looks like it... thats just cool when PETA asks WWE to rehire Danielson.

http://blog.peta.org/

[Tha Black Phenom]

Well, that was confusing as hell... I just rewound the end over and over, to try and understand what happened... Vince admitted to being behind the Nexus... they're all in a good mood, then they're not... then they are... then they're not... then they beat up Vince... Clusterf^(K.... ??????? What did I miss that explains that....?

Well clearly they never were in a good mood so that explains a good part of it. I'm sure they always wanted to attack Vince from the get-go. Maybe what he said just sinked it in.

[Slagaholic]

*rings the "This Writing Reeks of WCW" bell*

[Candyman]

Personally, I liked this episode. It was uber lame when they all apologized, but then they still ruin the main event...then it's uber lame that Vince tries to take credit, but then they destroy him just like everyone else. The last segment was a little awkward, they teased attacking him just a little too long. I'm guessing the rookies missed a cue and were supposed to surround him sooner.

The good thing is, we still have no idea where this is going. Who is the new GM? Daniel Bryan makes a lot of sense, and would explain why they "released" him. Vince said he couldn't take full credit...who else can take credit? Is there another mastermind? Is it the new GM or someone else? What do they want, now that they all have contracts? And who the F was in that limo???

Edit: Also, am I the only person outside of Ireland that likes Sheamus?

[MrOnu]

Edit: Also, am I the only person outside of Ireland that likes Sheamus?

Nah, I have no problem with Sheamus. His RAW debut was horrible as was his buildup to his first run with the title. After losing the belt, we saw more character development and I think he's now a credible contender. He showed that he can hang with the top guys in my opinion and it could probably be argued that's why he has the belt again.

[bigphesta]

Are they in the same arena as Fatal 4 Way? They were doing it last night as well. Ive never heard is so loud an clear before!
Did you not watch WM22? I was there live and it was CLEAR that half the Chicago croud HATED Cena and wanted HHH to destroy him (I was in that half) It was a constant "lets go Cena" "F**K you Cena" (and in the match, when HHH kicks out for the last time (before tapping) it cuts to me and my friends cheering.)

[bigphesta]

Nah, I have no problem with Sheamus. His RAW debut was horrible as was his buildup to his first run with the title. After losing the belt, we saw more character development and I think he's now a credible contender. He showed that he can hang with the top guys in my opinion and it could probably be argued that's why he has the belt again.Yeah, I don't see too many flaws in his in ring work. Other than that WHITE WHITE WHITE body.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Assisted in what way if I might ask?

Oh forgot to answer; well, live at the PPV.

[juggaloninjalee]

I love this NXT group. When everyone was chanting for them at the end of the show that was great. As long as they continue to destroy people until we get answers I like this.

Maybe at the next PPV they promise to give some answers on RAW the next night. Then the next night the show starts with NXT in the ring already. They say the time isn't right. Then some RAW guys come out and get beat down. A match is made for later in the night between x and y. That match is about to begin and then BAM!!! The NXT guys hit the ring and jump the RAW guys. Then they hold Cena and VKM up after a nice beatdown.

Out onto the stage walks the man behind the NXT's brutality comes out. Hopefully not the new RAW GM.

[Slim Jim]

why? Most of Flair's title runs were because he was that good (Bankability and in the ring for the most part) and HHH's came mostly in a time when the 'E was lacking stars (Post Austin/Rock, Pre Cena/Orton)

for that I give the edge to H, and this is excluding the politics cause Flair probably played his fair share too

Because I don't like Flair and I do like Triple H. He wouldn't be my first choice to break the record but he's a damn sight closer than anyone else so he'll do :p

[UkWrestleFan]

Personally, I liked this episode. It was uber lame when they all apologized, but then they still ruin the main event...then it's uber lame that Vince tries to take credit, but then they destroy him just like everyone else. The last segment was a little awkward, they teased attacking him just a little too long. I'm guessing the rookies missed a cue and were supposed to surround him sooner.

The good thing is, we still have no idea where this is going. Who is the new GM? Daniel Bryan makes a lot of sense, and would explain why they "released" him. Vince said he couldn't take full credit...who else can take credit? Is there another mastermind? Is it the new GM or someone else? What do they want, now that they all have contracts? And who the F was in that limo???

Just this, really. It keeps us all guessing and wanting answers meaning we'll tune in next week.

[Dragonmack]

Although I haven't been following it much the last few weeks, I would expect the new 'GM" to either be Daniel Bryan, which would tie into the NXT storyline, or someone like Triple H or Shane or Stephanie McMahon, which would make more sense as to why the top stars have been targeted by NXT.

Daniel Bryan would be interesting, but it would be pretty out there for him to go from 'fired rookie' to having the power to become GM. ( Yeah, I know, this is sports entertainment, and they have had more improbable stuff than this. )

A real wild card would have it being Shawn Michaels. He is perfectly capable of pretty much going after everyone and anyone and now that his 'in ring' career is over, having him be a vindictive GM would allow him to still be active and visible, and I could see him having a sort of cult leadership of the NXT group.

Oh, and I have to give props to Vince for taking those moves. A power bomb and a fairly stiff 450 splash at his age. I may not like him as a character, but I have to respect the man for doing that.

[juggaloninjalee]

Bryan is working indy shows now. He isn't going to be the GM or mastermind at this time unless they stretch this out awhile.

[BurningHamster]

Yeah, I don't see too many flaws in his in ring work. Other than that WHITE WHITE WHITE body.

Racist. That's not a flaw, it's an advantage ... he can use it to blind his opponents.

[Eisen-verse]

It was uber lame when they all apologized, but then they still ruin the main event...then it's uber lame that Vince tries to take credit

I agree 100%. I didn't really understand the 'apology' part as it pertains to developing their characters (both collective and individual). Now, if they come back next week and joke around that it was a ploy in which to get everyone to think that they had turned over a new leaf; then maybe? Overall, though, it felt very weird to see these guys apologize and say that they did it out of love for the WWE. That's cool and fine but don't have them apologize to John Cena, etc. It made them look super weak.

As for Vince taking credit, I did roll my eyes a little. Then again, It's the WWE. Vince will take credit for everything as a character. That's his M-O. That said, I have to give the man credit for taking the strikes that he did at the close of the show. Just goes to show you that he really loves this company.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Finally 4chan has come back to WWE.

[Linsolv]

ARMBARS EVERYWHERE (desu ka?)

[lazorbeak]

Edit: Also, am I the only person outside of Ireland that likes Sheamus?

No. Pretty much from the first time I saw Sheamus on Raw I said "that guy is a future world champ." The size, the distinct look, the recognizable imagery of the Celtic Cross? If he could wrestle at all he'd be in good shape for at least an obligatory monster heel title run, but since he's actually a pretty solid worker for a big man it isn't surprising that he's already been given the title back.


Also I hope Mysterio's reign doesn't last and we end up seeing Punk and the SES running things on Smackdown, but that might be wishful thinking.

[TNAfan123]

Sheamus has growen on me when he first became champ it suck i mean no real build up for him but now they have a new star

[juggaloninjalee]

Sheamus has growen on me when he first became champ it suck i mean no real build up for him but now they have a new star

I am not buying Sheamus as a world champ yet. I see him as nothing more than a monster heel. Kane to me is much better and should be booked that way. Sheamus kinda irritates me.

[Linsolv]

Personally, I don't like Sheamus because I'm not very happy with his mic work. It's that simple.

[PeterHilton]

I like Sheamus as a character and I actually like his mic work

I really really don't like how he's been booked. If he's a monster heel, why does he spend so much of his time sneak attacking and winning off of flukes? Why did he run from Kane last week?

Basically, i guess its more of an issue with the E's policy of making it's heels look weak no matter what, but I'd be a much bigger fan of Sheamus if he was booked to match his look.

[Self]

I like Sheamus in principal. He's been on RAW mostly, so I haven't had too much exposure to him, but I love his look, and the few times I've heard him talk I've been impressed, given how long he's been on this big stage. "Fella" is awesome.

The booking's a bit suspect, but I'd rather see Sheamus elevated than someone like Kane, who hasn't had a good match in years, and was stale in 2002.

[Stennick]

I am not buying Sheamus as a world champ yet. I see him as nothing more than a monster heel. Kane to me is much better and should be booked that way. Sheamus kinda irritates me.

Kane is pushing 40, barely looks like he cares in half of his matches, he's a shell of his former worker self, and his character has been watered down and made a jobber for the last five years atleast. I have no idea how Kane is "much better".

Look - Sheamous looks like nobody else in the "Dubya Duba E" Fella

Size - Both are bigger than most everybody that isn't a "giant"

Work - Kane is much slower and does about a 1/4 of the moves he used to. There was a time Kane was the best big man around. That time was ten years ago. Sheamous may be the best "big man" worker although when Show is motivated he's still pretty good as is Taker. Consistant if not the best.

Character - Sheamous has been around a year and been made to look like nothing more than a killing machine who John Cena can't beat. Kane at one time got this same push but that was 13 years ago. Now he's just another guy on the roster.

I have no idea how anyone can say that Kane is better at anything than Sheamous other than being recognizable and honestly without that mask he isn't that recognizable even though he's spent 8 years without it and only five with it.

[sebsplex]

Personally, I don't like Sheamus because I'm not very happy with his mic work. It's that simple.

Sheamus has grown on me somewhat since his first title win, but his mic work leaves a bit to be desired. Not that male managers figure in the WWE a great deal anymore, but Sheamus could really benefit from someone else handling most of the work on the stick. Not a silent monster, but one who at least has someone else to do some of his talking for him, that way he'd be a bit less exposed. Still, he's not awful by any stretch.

Interesting RAW this week. Credit to the WWE recently, for the first time in probably about 2-3 years, RAW has me anticipating the next episode and going out of my way to watch the past couple of weeks. The NXT angle is moving a little too quickly up the gears for my liking, but only so much is that I'm enjoying it, so I'd rather the stages were stretched out a little more. There were a few confusing aspects to their shift in characters - like Eisen-verse, the 'apology' didn't sit right, but that was somewhat neutralised by the Vinnie Mac beatdown. Vince taking credit fits his character as well as having the obvious motive of getting some revenge on Bret, so that didn't bother me too much. I guess the twist that Vince was being 'used' is available, otherwise it was pretty naive to make such a claim and assume the rookies would just play along.

Still this week we had more questions than answers, so I'm happy in that respect

I'm liking the mystery GM as it adds a nice layer of mystery to proceedings as well as saving the increasing amount of camera time Bret was taking up - hopefully they'll string this along for a while longer yet. Also, I see potential in Dibiase/Maryse.

BTW, the mystery GM is Mike Adamle. Apologies for the lack of spoiler tags :p

[The Celt]

I like Sheamus as a character and I actually like his mic work

I really really don't like how he's been booked. If he's a monster heel, why does he spend so much of his time sneak attacking and winning off of flukes? Why did he run from Kane last week?

Basically, i guess its more of an issue with the E's policy of making it's heels look weak no matter what, but I'd be a much bigger fan of Sheamus if he was booked to match his look.

Sheamus' booking isn't that bad; Won the WWE Championship after less than 3 months on RAW, Has never, even been pinned by John Cena on television or PPV and he's the monster who took out the legendary game, Triple H before public boasting his ass off about it.

I think it's that his character pretty much doesn't pick a fight he can't win, say like against the nexus, seeing as how you can't beat 7 on 1.

[juggaloninjalee]

Kane had what 1 World Title run? For a day? I feel like he deserved more. I can agree his ring work isn't as good as it used to be and his character has been booked to have weaknesses. HOWEVER I don't think it would be tough for his character to be back to a wrecking machine like before.

Sheamus is nothing special to me. Don't know if he ever will be but right now he is nothing more than another big guy on the roster. I am aware they like his work and are booking him as more. So maybe he will grow on me. I can think of a few guys to be better top heels though.

[CQI13]

Kane may have deserved one ages ago, not anymore. Why give him one now?

[Teh_Showtime]

Because I don't like Flair and I do like Triple H. He wouldn't be my first choice to break the record but he's a damn sight closer than anyone else so he'll do :p

randy orton is hardly 30 :rolleyes:

[PeterHilton]

Sheamus' booking isn't that bad; Won the WWE Championship after less than 3 months on RAW, Has never, even been pinned by John Cena on television or PPV and he's the monster who took out the legendary game, Triple H before public boasting his ass off about it.

I think it's that his character pretty much doesn't pick a fight he can't win, say like against the nexus, seeing as how you can't beat 7 on 1.

The first title win and subsequent reign was a joke. He didn't look like a legit until his feud with Trips.

Honestly, other than Trips, I can't recall the last clean win he's had over a big name main eventer.

[Jaysin]

I'm not a Sheamus supporter, but he's a heel, why does he need clean wins?

If anyone's going to take Flair's record, I'd rather it be Angle honestly.

[PeterHilton]

I'm not a Sheamus supporter, but he's a heel, why does he need clean wins?



I think big bruising monster heel types work best if they look legitimately dangerous through beating people cleanly. Even if they cheat, it shouldn't be the "sneaky, devious" cheat.

Just MONTH but a monster heel has to seem dangerous or else why have that look?

[Teh_Showtime]

I'm not a Sheamus supporter, but he's a heel, why does he need clean wins?

If anyone's going to take Flair's record, I'd rather it be Angle honestly.

but we're speaking realistically

Angle probably wont count if it's all in TNA

[PeterHilton]

Just My Opinion

Sorry. My blackberry corrected that to MONTH

[Tha Black Phenom]

IMO, it was a great move having them apologize. Because the attack at the end of the show made them look much more cunning. They were hinting during that apology that they would stop their shenanigans and change their tune, then in ruthless fashion they go right back to their antics at the end of the show, reaching to a climax by assaulting the chairman.

If there was no apology, they would've just came in the show, either say nothing or talk trash/call someone out in the ring, and pull this at the end of the show - yeah, problem is we've seen that for two weeks already. Would've gotten cringingly redundant. The apology puts things in another aspect; either they're conflicted, or in-between the segments they issued an even bigger agenda for themselves which they will address next week, etc.

And I also love Sheamus. I thought we'd see the beginning of something great when he first won the title.

[Eisen-verse]

IMO, it was a great move having them apologize. Because the attack at the end of the show made them look much more cunning. They were hinting during that apology that they would stop their shenanigans and change their tune, then in ruthless fashion they go right back to their antics at the end of the show, reaching to a climax by assaulting the chairman.

If there was no apology, they would've just came in the show, either say nothing or talk trash/call someone out in the ring, and pull this at the end of the show - yeah, problem is we've seen that for two weeks already. Would've gotten cringingly redundant. The apology puts things in another aspect; either they're conflicted, or in-between the segments they issued an even bigger agenda for themselves which they will address next week, etc.

And I also love Sheamus. I thought we'd see the beginning of something great when he first won the title.

That was my thought; but, I don't trust the WWE to go that far into character development to be honest. haha.

[Dragonmack]

WWE character development isn't all that complicated. Suck up to Vince, be related to him, or have a stereotypical big muscle build, you get pushed and pushed hard.

Piss Vince off somehow, then you get buried, even if he has to wait for years for the opportunity to humiliate you.

Now there are exceptions to the first part for people with undeniable star power and charisma, ie. HBK, the Rock, Stone Cold, Edge, or who had been good company people for a long time, Bradshaw, Jericho, Eddy Guerrero. But Vince's m.o. has been fairly standard since he took the WWE national in the 80's.

[Teh_Showtime]

Now there are exceptions to the first part for people with undeniable star power and charisma, ie. HBK, the Rock, Stone Cold, Edge, or who had been good company people for a long time, Bradshaw, Jericho, Eddy Guerrero. But Vince's m.o. has been fairly standard since he took the WWE national in the 80's.

move edge to company side, took him a decade to get his first world title

also HBK was part of the Kliq, so that probably had a part in it too

[Self]

Are you confusing politics for character development? I'm sorta jumping in mid-conversation, but... huh?

[Teh_Showtime]

Are you confusing politics for character development? I'm sorta jumping in mid-conversation, but... huh?

wait, I was confusing politics with pushes, which I was confusing with character development

BUT most of the time you only get time for character development if you are reliving a push

[LoganRodzen]

Personally, I don't like Sheamus because I'm not very happy with his mic work. It's that simple.

Did you watch RAW last night? I've hated Sheamus because of the massive push he received but he's started go grow on me. His promo from last night with McMahon was awesome. Getting the crowd to think he was really going to give up the title because he wasn't happy with how he won it. He had them in the palm of his hands and I thought it was awesome. It was the first time I've enjoyed a Sheamus promo. :cool:

[Teh_Showtime]

most people don't like him on the mic largely because of his accent

but I like sheamus all around. He just needs to hang out with orton to get his bronze on

and smoke the tree...

[The Celt]

Big Sheamie has stated for the reason he's going to keep the pale look, going so far as to protect himself from tanning of any sort by wearing factor 100 sunscreeen.

It's that unique look baby! :)

[brashleyholland]

I posted this in the MMA thread, but I guess it's relevant here too...sombody just told me that Dave Batista legit took a kicking from Booker T. Anybody know if there is any truth to this, especially any documented quotes?

Ta :)

[The Celt]

Booker T's victory in the fight with Batista has earn him extra lockerroom respect. One source stated that Booker T dominated Batista due to having more street fighting experience.

Booker T did take a very personal verbal shot at Batista, however, one source said that it did not come until the situation became very heated. No one blames Booker T for what he did, as the general feeling backstage is that Batista has become very arrogant since wining the World Title.

The latest on the Booker T-Batista fight at the commercial shoot for Summerslam 2006 is that it was real. Batista's face was apparently cut up after the incident with Booker T having a black eye that was visible on SmackDown! last week. A close friend of Batista informed everyone it was a work, but many speculate it is just so Batista can save face since Booker T was the clear winner of the fight.

Batista was supposedly rubbing people the wrong way while talking about how SmackDown!'s ratings has dropped since he's been gone and basically making it like he was the only attraction on SmackDown! The SmackDown! locker room has always had heat on Batista since Batista did interviews where he would be praising the RAW show and putting down SmackDown! to great lengths. Many have gone so far as to say that JBL sand-bagged his three matches with Batista as a way of paying him back for the insults. Batista did hang out with Eddie Guerrero backstage shortly before his death and that won him over some friends, but the fact that Batista thinks he's a star as big as The Rock or Steve Austin doesn't help matters. Batista does not carry himself backstage like Triple H or The Undertaker, but he does act superior to midcard veterans who have yet to receive a main-event opportunity as he did.

WWE.com reported that the fight lasted five minutes, though the brawl itself only lasted thirty seconds. From the time the argument started till they were broken up though, five minutes had passed. Booker T got into an argument with Batista over his comments and Booker T apparently gave him many opportunities to back off, as he's a laid back person by everyone's standards, but Batista kept going with the argument. Rey Mysterio was there during the argument trying to act as a peacemaker as he most often does backstage and after the fight, the roster shot Batista many dirty looks which left Batista visibly upset since no one stuck up for him.

So far, neither wrestlers has been punished or reprimanded.

Source: pwrestlingnews.com

Circa. 2006

[TNAfan123]

I read something not long ago that Yoshi beat down Sheamus when they were roomates because of Sheamus not respecting Yoshi's stuff if I find a article I'll post that

[The Shape]

Personally I really enjoy Sheamus's mic work, not a huge fan of his in the ring but his accent I like, especially for the particular reason that I think it sounds awesome on pay per view hype videos. Seriously. I have him vs. Undertaker in my head already with Sheamus' voice vowing to destroy him forever...

[brashleyholland]

Circa. 2006

Awesome, thanks.

[Linsolv]

Marathon NXT watching session in preparation for this week, since I haven't watched since the end of season 1.

LOVING Percy Watson, primarily because he's got a nice physique, and has that "used to be an athlete" thing going, but looks and acts like a dork.

On the other hand, I have to take back what I said a few weeks ago about LayCool. Whenever they're not doing their pre-practiced stuff (like trying to talk together) they are both pretty fun on the mic, reminding me of what I liked about John Morrison as a heel.

Can someone explain Zach Ryder to me? I mean, I know that he's a New Jersey (?) stereotype, but I don't know anything about the stereotype, and I don't really get his catchphrase. To me, it'd be like if someone's catchphrase was "poolbear." Which would be really cool if someone could come up with a logical explaination for it actually.

Also, Michael McGillicutty looks to me EXACTLY like Jamie Noble. It's the weirdest thing.

[Stennick]

I think Ryder more than a Jersey stereo type is a frat boy stereo type. You know the 20 something preppy kids, who were stupid things and say stupid little catchphrases.

[Basmat01]

move edge to company side, took him a decade to get his first world title


Edge would of had his shot a long time ago but his neck injury killed all momentum he had. He was pretty much maineventing smackdown in 2002/2003.

[Stennick]

Edge was a main eventer around 2004 when him and Benoit were feuding with Evolution. He was kind of main eventing in 02 but nothing serious just television.

[Teh_Showtime]

he did have a tag run with hogan I guess

[The Celt]

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/bryanroberts_57346.jpg

[Linsolv]

:cool::cool::cool::p

EDIT: Also, LOL CHOKING HAZARD

EDIT 2: This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

[Teh_Showtime]

you think?

[Linsolv]

Well, the E was still advertising appearances by Bryan at least a week after he got fired, so as far as putting out a toy that breaks the storyline firing (if it is that, which I'm only assuming for the sake of discussion), I can't say I would put it past them.

EDIT: On the other hand, that is actually LOWER quality than their Build N' Brawl line; Danielson looks like Gregory House; and, why does Danielson's genital-region come as a separate piece?

[bigphesta]

Racist. That's not a flaw, it's an advantage ... he can use it to blind his opponents.Obviously , you have NO idea what racism is. Pointing out someone is the whitest person you've ever seen is not racist. Moron.

[The Final Countdown]

Obviously , you have NO idea what racism is. Pointing out someone is the whitest person you've ever seen is not racist. Moron.
Please tell me you didn't actually take BH's comment seriously...

[Slagaholic]

Obviously , you have NO idea what racism is. Pointing out someone is the whitest person you've ever seen is not racist. Moron.

:)!

[Linsolv]

Obviously , you have NO idea what racism is. Pointing out someone is the whitest person you've ever seen is not racist. Moron.

Okay, now I'm confused.

We need to define what insensitive comments about skin color are and aren't racist.

Is it racist to declare that black people have an advantage in fights taking place at night?

[Stennick]

Lets just move on from this. I don't see this leading down a path that I like so lets steer this back to the Dubya Dubya E fellas.

[Linsolv]

I'm racking my brain for people I think are good, viable contenders for the Dublya Doublya E Championship, that haven't been champ yet. I can't think of any at this point, though if Miz or Morrison got a good solid push for a couple months I guess they could be made into contenders. Wade Barrett's an unknown quantity as far as what push they're going to give him. But that seems to be it.

[tristram]

Well, the E was still advertising appearances by Bryan at least a week after he got fired, so as far as putting out a toy that breaks the storyline firing (if it is that, which I'm only assuming for the sake of discussion), I can't say I would put it past them.

EDIT: On the other hand, that is actually LOWER quality than their Build N' Brawl line; Danielson looks like Gregory House; and, why does Danielson's genital-region come as a separate piece?


:eek::eek::eek: Fella, that's quite a funny observation. That's kinda like playing a music game show and answering successfully that you know the name of that crazy Spanish-Mexican dance song from around 1996 where there was that rad worldwide dance phenomena. Sadly, I know what it is (Macharena) :o

[Self]

Can someone explain Zach Ryder to me? I mean, I know that he's a New Jersey (?) stereotype, but I don't know anything about the stereotype, and I don't really get his catchphrase. To me, it'd be like if someone's catchphrase was "poolbear." Which would be really cool if someone could come up with a logical explaination for it actually.

Isn't it a play off the characters in that Jersey Shore show?

It seems to me we're in a post-modern era of catchphrases. They're no longer 'cool' in the singalong with The Rock fashion. They're more "Look at me, I have a catchphrase. I'm a wrestler!". To me, they reek of desperation. Which is probably why I like Zack Ryder's. He's an attention whore who really wants you to think he's a cool guy with a cool catchphrase, but really isn't and really doesn't. It's suitable. Woo Woo Woo. You Know It.

It's similar to why I like The Miz' catchphrase. Wrestling fans have always seemed to resent his Real World roots, so the catchphrase is more than just "I'm Awesome". He's really saying "Look at me. I have a catchphrase. I'm a wrestler, and there's nothing you can do about it" and that's got to get under the skin of some people.

Also, the sheer commitment in Miz' delivery is stunning.

[Moe Hunter]

Wasn't Zack Ryder doing his gimmick before Jersey Shore? I'm sure I read somewhere about him being a parody of a Youtube thing called "Haircut guy"... Never saw it though, so I dunno.

[juggaloninjalee]

Would the WWE let Bryan take indy bookings if he was just storyline fired?

[Hyde Hill]

Would the WWE let Bryan take indy bookings if he was just storyline fired?

He is legit fired people. But he is most likely coming back as soon as the wind blows over. Either the senate campaign or the sponsor or both.

[Genadi]

http://i48.tinypic.com/154h5w0.jpg

[juggaloninjalee]

http://i48.tinypic.com/154h5w0.jpg

That's been posted before. I guess it's never a bad thing to remind us how deadly he is.

[Genadi]

That's been posted before. I guess it's never a bad thing to remind us how deadly he is.

Oops sorry, didn't see it :o

[Linsolv]

OPINION TIEM! Deadliest Warrior is the dumbest show I've ever seen. Not because the premise is flawed, no sir, but because the people they bring on it seem to think that because they know about historical badasses, that makes them, by extention, a badass.

EDIT (8 hours later. YEAH BOYYYY.) - I now somewhat see what the idea is behind Zach Ryder is. I'm not sure how to feel about him any more, since the gimmick itself is inherently funny, but not in the way that involves a whole lot of me really loving it even as a joke. But that's a step up from me finding him confusing and dumb.

[Candyman]

He is legit fired people. But he is most likely coming back as soon as the wind blows over. Either the senate campaign or the sponsor or both.

Wait, people are still claiming it's legit? I thought we moved past that when Wade Barrett mentioned him on the air (hint: they don't do that when people are released) or when they put that poll up on Facebok(hint: they don't do that either). That's why it was a hidden page on their website, that's why Daniel Bryan played along with it on his Twitter or whatever, etc etc...seriously, is there ANY evidence that it's not a work? I haven't seen any.

[Self]

Wait, people are still claiming it's legit? I thought we moved past that when Wade Barrett mentioned him on the air (hint: they don't do that when people are released) or when they put that poll up on Facebok(hint: they don't do that either). That's why it was a hidden page on their website, that's why Daniel Bryan played along with it on his Twitter or whatever, etc etc...seriously, is there ANY evidence that it's not a work? I haven't seen any.

Haven't seen anything that says 'work' to me. So I'm believing it's a shoot. Not that I'm caring all that much. To be honest I'm so sick of Bryan Danielson right now I don't care if he ever comes back.

Bit harsh, but this work/shoot topic is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen, and I feel dirty for even making this post.

[MattitudeV2]

Wait, people are still claiming it's legit? I thought we moved past that when Wade Barrett mentioned him on the air (hint: they don't do that when people are released) or when they put that poll up on Facebok(hint: they don't do that either). That's why it was a hidden page on their website, that's why Daniel Bryan played along with it on his Twitter or whatever, etc etc...seriously, is there ANY evidence that it's not a work? I haven't seen any.

Danielson having a crap load of independent bookings because WWE doesn't allow their stars to do indy bookings if i'm correct

[dvdWarrior]

Haven't seen anything that says 'work' to me. So I'm believing it's a shoot. Not that I'm caring all that much. To be honest I'm so sick of Bryan Danielson right now I don't care if he ever comes back.

Bit harsh, but this work/shoot topic is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen, and I feel dirty for even making this post.

Hate to say it, but I'm in this camp as well. Dunno why, but I've lost interest in this whole "work/shoot?" debate. It'll all work itself out one way or another soon enough anyway. If he goes back to ROH or pops up in TNA, I'll have a mark out moment and watch him there. If he shows up on Raw again, I'll have a mark out moment and watch him there. No biggie.

In other news, I found out today that I'll be getting to watch the 2010 Royal Rumble on WWE Classics On Demand, so there is that.

:)

[Wrestling Century]

In other news, I found out today that I'll be getting to watch the 2010 Royal Rumble on WWE Classics On Demand, so there is that.

:)

I bought the 2010 Royal Rumble PPV, and it was really good. HBK told a fantastic story in the Rumble.

[dvdWarrior]

I bought the 2010 Royal Rumble PPV, and it was really good. HBK told a fantastic story in the Rumble.

I look forward to watching it.

WWE Classics On Demand is the greatest thing ever FTR. For my $7.99 a month, I get recent WWE PPVs, (if you consider January's Royal Rumble recent), old events in the 'Big Ones' section, (which right now includes a Madison Square Garden card from 1976, (I think it is), a lot of old TV shows including ECW and Raws & Nitros from the Monday Night Wars era, and oh so much other stuff.

I can't recommend it enough. If your 'TV people' carry it, it's Must Have Awesomeness.

Sorry for the commercial. I just like it so much.

:o

[Linsolv]

Danielson having a crap load of independent bookings because WWE doesn't allow their stars to do indy bookings if i'm correct

Is it normal to have exactly one in all the "major" indy bookings?

But you guys are kinda right. It's a little old hat; I'm still actively seeking information about the Bryanson thing, but I think the points that are currently out there are discussed ad nauseum.

[SaySo]

I wonder how much load Dwyane Johnson would ever get if he open up indy bookings. Oh wait, Disney got that covered.

[Hyde Hill]

Is it normal to have exactly one in all the "major" indy bookings?

But you guys are kinda right. It's a little old hat; I'm still actively seeking information about the Bryanson thing, but I think the points that are currently out there are discussed ad nauseum.

hmm PWG, ROH, DGUSA and I think Evolve have all announced him not much bigger non Japan or televised, which is not allowed under the 90 days no compete, out there.

[Linsolv]

Exactly. I mean, I know that they share talent to an extent, but being booked on all of them in the space of a month? Seems funny.

[Linsolv]

What's everyone's opinion of Lucky Cannon? He's the only one of the rookies I don't really have an opinion on at this point, as far as whether or not to actually like him.

[Teh_Showtime]

What's everyone's opinion of Lucky Cannon? He's the only one of the rookies I don't really have an opinion on at this point, as far as whether or not to actually like him.

I like the Miz's guy, the c0cky guy that can work the mic

Lucky is kinda bland imo. Im surprised he didnt last longer against cody last night

also wondering why they changed Joe Hennig's last name, but still say Mr. Perfect is his dad *facepalm*

[The Final Countdown]

also wondering why they changed Joe Hennig's last name, but still say Mr. Perfect is his dad *facepalm*
They said his mother's maiden name was McGillicutty (no idea if that's actually true), and he took that ring name to honor "both sides of the family."

[Slagaholic]

Could it be because his dad died young and drug related death?

Notice how they say Mr. Perfect but not Curt Hennig.

[Basmat01]

Would the WWE let Bryan take indy bookings if he was just storyline fired?

they fired Matt Hardy and then rehired him he worked indy shows to fuel the idea that he was "invading" the WWE to get revenge on Edge for having an affair with Lita and that worked. they even let him on TV wearing a ROH shirt.

[Teh_Showtime]

Could it be because his dad died young and drug related death?

Notice how they say Mr. Perfect but not Curt Hennig.

I dont think he was ever called Hennig in WWE. I know he was in AWA/WCW though but I think he was always Mr. Perfect, even in the video games and during his last run

[Teh_Showtime]

they fired Matt Hardy and then rehired him he worked indy shows to fuel the idea that he was "invading" the WWE to get revenge on Edge for having an affair with Lita and that worked. they even let him on TV wearing a ROH shirt.

a lot of this was a shoot that they turned into a work (or I think it was)

[MattitudeV2]

Could it be because his dad died young and drug related death?

Notice how they say Mr. Perfect but not Curt Hennig.

I've watched NXT and I heard them say at least a couple of times that his grandfather is Larry "The Ax" Hennig and "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig...

[Slagaholic]

Well then its just silly goosery. Shame on me for trying to make sense of WWE writing.

[SaySo]

He should have used the name Joe instead of Michael. Not a big fan myself of McGuillicuty. Hopefully a nickname like Mr Perfect would replace McGuillicuty.

[Jaysin]

From prowrestling.com

- WWE claimed on TV that Joe Hennig is using the Michael McGillicutty name on NXT because the last name is his mother's maiden name and he wanted to honor the other side of his family. Actually, Hennig's mother was born Leonice Leonard, so it remains to be seen where the McGillicutty name came from. This could be related or not but McGillicutty was actually the maiden name of Lucy Ricardo on the hit 50's TV show "I Love Lucy."

[Self]

From prowrestling.com

- WWE claimed on TV that Joe Hennig is using the Michael McGillicutty name on NXT because the last name is his mother's maiden name and he wanted to honor the other side of his family. Actually, Hennig's mother was born Leonice Leonard, so it remains to be seen where the McGillicutty name came from. This could be related or not but McGillicutty was actually the maiden name of Lucy Ricardo on the hit 50's TV show "I Love Lucy."

Wow. Reaching.

It's just a name creative came up with.

[fatallylost]

Is it normal to have exactly one in all the "major" indy bookings?

But you guys are kinda right. It's a little old hat; I'm still actively seeking information about the Bryanson thing, but I think the points that are currently out there are discussed ad nauseum.

Exactly. I mean, I know that they share talent to an extent, but being booked on all of them in the space of a month? Seems funny.

I would go out on a limb, and say that he has one booking in each cause, well, they tend to only run one announced show at a time/per month.

Also, he's worked for them, or the people who book them, for years. So, I imagine it would be a matter of 5 phone calls over a course of a day to get that rolling.

I doubt that's really all that much of a stretch.

[dvdWarrior]

They may have borrowed the name from I Love Lucy. I could kinda see WWE working Ricky's song, "I'm In Love With The Dragon's Dinner" into a storyline.

We'll know for sure if a superstar named Mertz pops up some time in the future.

Magilacuddy & Mertz, back in bidness after all these years.

Ya think?

[tristram]

I dont think he was ever called Hennig in WWE. I know he was in AWA/WCW though but I think he was always Mr. Perfect, even in the video games and during his last run

Yes he was. At the very start of his journey into the WWF he was announced by the ring-announcers and the commentators (I think at the time Mooney and Hayes) as Mr Perfect Curt Hennig. Infact, I was watching an episode of the WWE show that Gene Okerlund hosts, can't quite remember the name of it but its a historical recap show, and it had Sam Houston against Mr Perfect Curt Hennig.

[Shmoe]

As far as NXT goes, Percy Watson entertains the hell out of me. Just his facial expressions and his body language cracks me up. I hope he gets far, either that or gets to the main roster afterwards.

[Remianen]

From prowrestling.com

- WWE claimed on TV that Joe Hennig is using the Michael McGillicutty name on NXT because the last name is his mother's maiden name and he wanted to honor the other side of his family. Actually, Hennig's mother was born Leonice Leonard, so it remains to be seen where the McGillicutty name came from. This could be related or not but McGillicutty was actually the maiden name of Lucy Ricardo on the hit 50's TV show "I Love Lucy."

It was also the name of one of the teachers on 'The Little Rascals' (the one Alfalfa had a crush on).

[Vladamire Dracos]

It was also the name of one of the teachers on 'The Little Rascals' (the one Alfalfa had a crush on).

Also the ring name of Tommy Dreamer's ultra hot wife, Trisa "Beulah McGillicutty" Hayes.

[juggaloninjalee]

Why is everyone so worried about what his last name is? I guess it doesn't matter to me.

[Jaysin]

Why is everyone so worried about what his last name is? I guess it doesn't matter to me.

People with horrible names tend not to get over and this is the son of Mr frikkin Perfect. He needs to get over!

[CQI13]

Nothing "needs" to happen. If he's good enough (not a given, even with the lineage), and he requires a name/gimmick change, it will happen. How many people would be complaining about the fact that they're not creative enough if they just went with the Hennig name (or leeching off the Mr Perfect gimmick)?

[Tha Black Phenom]

A nickname can always fix things, or a gradual switch to a swifter name, something like Michael McG(doesn't sound all that better on paper but when a name catches on, it catches on).

Also, I'm really digging the nickname for Percy Watson. Showtime. It's a nice prefix. I like him overall, his demeanor brings something different to the table.

[alden]

in ring wise i was not super impressed by watson.....the turning splash he did was cool.....but he really blew the hot shot spot at the end. He is odviously very athletic........and has a TON of personality......I do like his i just hope his in ring work gets better. To be honest there is no one i really don't like this time around. I think they are all possible stars. I am really enjoying eli for some reason. They keep say how "intresting" he is *i am assuming a little off* and he almost shows it in the way he holds him self. I still am marking out for kaval. I am surprised the wwe has not made him tone down him style to much. He is not the super stiff striker he was in roh and ta but he is still using alot of his trade mark moves.

[Stennick]

Also the ring name of Tommy Dreamer's ultra hot wife, Trisa "Beulah McGillicutty" Hayes.

Ultra hot? Different strokes for different folks but she's not even in my top 15 90's divas. She was think and had a decent body and wasn't ugly but I wouldn't say ultra hot.

[Shmoe]

Well, way too hot for Tommy Dreamer at least!

[Slagaholic]

Tommy Dreamer's a cutie pie! He did very well for himself.

[Hyde Hill]

A nickname can always fix things, or a gradual switch to a swifter name, something like Michael McG(doesn't sound all that better on paper but when a name catches on, it catches on).

Also, I'm really digging the nickname for Percy Watson. Showtime. It's a nice prefix. I like him overall, his demeanor brings something different to the table.

Hmm wonder if TNA has trademarked EY's prefix hehe. Nice going E first stealing finishers, then gimmicks and now prefixes lolz.

[Astil]

Hmm wonder if TNA has trademarked EY's prefix hehe. Nice going E first stealing finishers, then gimmicks and now prefixes lolz.

... Phenom ... Phenomenal... the difference is nominal...

:p

[alden]

lol when i heard showtime percy watson my mind instently went to eric young to.

[Self]

I'm sure WWE have no idea who Eric Young is. Besides, in a few months everyone will think Eric stole it from Percy.

[alden]

does he even go by showtime any more? I thought he dropped that or am i just not paying attention. I thought since he joined the band or he heel turn atleast he has not gone by showtime.

[crownsy]

Hmm wonder if TNA has trademarked EY's prefix hehe. Nice going E first stealing finishers, then gimmicks and now prefixes lolz.

Because no famous athlete or a certain famous sports dynasty has gone by showtime.

It was so ground breathtakingly original when EY did it :rolleyes:

The E does of course beg, borrow, or steal from everywhere, but i really doubt it even connected the two workers when applying a generic nickname applied to every flashy athlete since the 70's.

[Basmat01]

in ring wise i was not super impressed by watson.....the turning splash he did was cool.....but he really blew the hot shot spot at the end. He is odviously very athletic........and has a TON of personality......I do like his i just hope his in ring work gets better. To be honest there is no one i really don't like this time around. I think they are all possible stars. I am really enjoying eli for some reason. They keep say how "intresting" he is *i am assuming a little off* and he almost shows it in the way he holds him self. I still am marking out for kaval. I am surprised the wwe has not made him tone down him style to much. He is not the super stiff striker he was in roh and ta but he is still using alot of his trade mark moves.

He got some good air on it but the finish wasnt very tidy if you watch it again he doesnt turn quick enough and lands on the guy sideways I thought he was going for a elbow drop lol

Percy is more "showtime" than Eric Young will ever be

[Self]

I've already given up on NXT, but I made a point of watching the Percy Watson match. He's green, but by far my favorite rookie on the show. He's insane! It's amazing. He gets in the ring (a sight in itself) and dances and claps and... I love him. Every bit of him.

I also liked how Miz & Riley looked as a tag team during their entrance. When the match began I thought they looked FAR too similar, but their entrance had a nice mixture of similarities and differences.

[Basmat01]

Who will be the first NXT rookie to go?

my moneys on Titus O'Neil. He has done very little to impress me his David Otanga just with even less "Charisma"

[Self]

If I was running the shop, I'd probably cut Lucky Cannon first. Eli's got height. Titus has Zack Ryder (woo woo woo). People keep saying McGillicutty is decent so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I like the other 4. I'd cut Lucky.

[evileddie10]

With the WWE now having an agreement with youtube to show most of their shows in full, I attempted to watch NXT on it, however youtube claimed the video is not available. Wasnt sure if it was just me, so i'm asking if anyone else seems to have a problem with WWE's youtube videos.

[Linsolv]

If I was running the shop, I'd probably cut Lucky Cannon first. Eli's got height. Titus has Zack Ryder (woo woo woo). People keep saying McGillicutty is decent so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I like the other 4. I'd cut Lucky.

The pros generally stick around after their rookie is eliminated, though. Except Carlito, but we all know about that.

[Tha Black Phenom]

With the WWE now having an agreement with youtube to show most of their shows in full, I attempted to watch NXT on it, however youtube claimed the video is not available. Wasnt sure if it was just me, so i'm asking if anyone else seems to have a problem with WWE's youtube videos.

Could it be the fact you don't reside in the United States? Because they said it'd be US-only.

[MrOnu]

Could it be the fact you don't reside in the United States? Because they said it'd be US-only.

Even though I think it's bull****, it is true as I can't access the videos from Canada.

[Hyde Hill]

Because no famous athlete or a certain famous sports dynasty has gone by showtime.

It was so ground breathtakingly original when EY did it :rolleyes:

The E does of course beg, borrow, or steal from everywhere, but i really doubt it even connected the two workers when applying a generic nickname applied to every flashy athlete since the 70's.

Note the lolz. And yes the E knows who EY is, anyone who does not think the E as an organization does not watch TNA is deluding themselves, and yes he has not used the moniker in a while now. But if it is trademarked as far as it pertains to a wrestling prefix then the E could have a problem. Other athletes having the same prefix is a different ball game.

[Hyde Hill]

Could it be the fact you don't reside in the United States? Because they said it'd be US-only.

Grr shakes fist.

[Self]

Note the lolz. And yes the E knows who EY is, anyone who does not think the E as an organization does not watch TNA is deluding themselves, and yes he has not used the moniker in a while now. But if it is trademarked as far as it pertains to a wrestling prefix then the E could have a problem.

If it ever went to court, all WWE would need to do is trot out Percy Watson, let him do his thing, and there isn't a jury in the world that would deny him the rights to the name. It doesn't matter who used it first. It only matters who used it best. That's Showtime Percy Watson. OH YEAH!

My first thought on hearing the 'showtime' thing was "Wasn't that Sting's catchphrase back in the day?". Seem to remember that's why Eric Young was so scared all the time. He was frightened that Sting would come get him for stealing the word.

[CQI13]

Actually, it's about who trademarked/copyrighted it first. I can copyright a bunch of stuff and never use it commercially. If you want to use it, you'd have to buy it from me. Regardless of whether it fits you more than it does just sitting on a shelf.

[Self]

Actually, it's about who trademarked/copyrighted it first. I can copyright a bunch of stuff and never use it commercially. If you want to use it, you'd have to buy it from me. Regardless of whether it fits you more than it does just sitting on a shelf.

Percy Watson transcends law.

[Teh_Showtime]

what did everyone think about SD?

I loved Swagger/Show and the Ankle Lock was classic Angle (should Swagger do it more? probably not, but It made me mark.)

and the ending was good, but nothing special. Hope Kane and Punk can do some more work together though. Perhaps HIAC

[Jaysin]

what did everyone think about SD?

I loved Swagger/Show and the Ankle Lock was classic Angle (should Swagger do it more? probably not, but It made me mark.)

and the ending was good, but nothing special. Hope Kane and Punk can do some more work together though. Perhaps HIAC

Why watch the poor man's Angle do the ankle lock when you can watch the real Kurt every Thursday?

[Hyde Hill]

Why watch the poor man's Angle do the ankle lock when you can watch the real Kurt every Thursday?

Well maybe he watches both. Nothing wrong with that, neither just watching the E or TNA or whatever. But liking Swagger because he is Angelish when you can still get Angle is kinda weird.

[Jaysin]

Well maybe he watches both. Nothing wrong with that, neither just watching the E or TNA or whatever. But liking Swagger because he is Angelish when you can still get Angle is kinda weird.

Never said you can't watch both, I was just confused why someone would get excited over someone doing someone else's move when they can easily watch the other person do it them self.

Now, when's the Shamrock fan going to come in saying Kurt stole it from Ken? :p

[Teh_Showtime]

I didnt say that, I said I liked that he did it in Angleish fashion. Swagger will NEVER be angle and I will like him regardless

I've been trying to watch impact recently but I have football from 7-9 at night

by the time I got to watch it, Angle defeated Wolfe so thats pretty ironic

[Jaysin]

This made me laugh pretty hard...

Marv: Its OK, I'm still scratching my head at these names. Husky Harris? Mike McGillicutty? WTF? These characters just seems so indy, Joe Mathieson should be covering NXT...I'm just saying. No disrespect towards Joe but come on. Percy Watson makes me cringe because its the watered down version of Orlando Jordan. The glasses are Steve Urkelish, and his personality is very flamboyant to the third power. Kaval is obviously the Daniel Byran of the season (oops...will I get fired for using someone who got future endeavored)? This season will be OK, but I don't have a lot of hopes for it unless one of the multi-generational stars wins...

I think I'm going to start referring to Percy as Urkel Dudley.

[The Celt]

I wish everyone would stop calling Percy Watson Urekel...he's goddamn Eddie Murphy PG alright!

[Candyman]

A nickname can always fix things, or a gradual switch to a swifter name, something like Michael McG(doesn't sound all that better on paper but when a name catches on, it catches on).

This. What would people say if an NXT rookie had the name Hunter Hearst Helmsley? That's a million times worse than Michael McGillicutty in every way possible. Same with Montel Vontavious Porter.

But we've talked about this before, and like I said then, a name only matters the first time you hear it. Then you get used to it and don't think about it. It has no little to no impact on whether or not a guy gets over, to be completely honest.

[Candyman]

Actually, it's about who trademarked/copyrighted it first. I can copyright a bunch of stuff and never use it commercially. If you want to use it, you'd have to buy it from me. Regardless of whether it fits you more than it does just sitting on a shelf.

Did you just post a serious response to that post? Really? Well, as long as we're going down that road, what you said here is not true. Well, not entirely. You're using trademarks and coprights interchangably even though they're two COMPLETELY different things. First, you can't copyright a name. You trademark it. Also, what you said is basically true about copyrights, but not remotely true about trademarks. There are a variety of ways a trademark can be lost - not using it is one way(you have to show you're using it to keep the trademark), but not the only way. For example, the word "frisbee" used to be a trademark of Wham-O. It became so commonly associated with flying discs that the company now has no legal protection over the name. That's why Google tries so hard to stop "google" from being used as a verb.

What was my point? I have no idea. But regardless, there's no way in hell TNA or WWE or anybody else could or would get "Showtime" trademarked as a wrestler's nickname to the point that the other couldn't use it as a nickname for one of their wrestlers.

And to bring this something close to on topic, I'm highly amused by the suggestion that they somehow got the idea from TNA using the name for Erik Young. Does WWE know who Erik Young is? Of course. Not because they follow TNA like somebody said (because they don't), but because they know who every wrestler in the country is(not literally, but the reasonably good ones). They likely have dozens of people whose sole job is to find and watch wrestlers like Erik Young. Just like an NFL team knows about every college football player. However, do the people that gave Percy Watson the nickname 'Showtime' know who Erik Young is, let alone that he uses/used that nickname? Of course not. If they did, they wouldn't have used it.

[Jaysin]

I like how you couldn't even spell Eric Young's name right. Made me chuckle.

[20LEgend]

I like how you couldn't even spell Eric Young's name right. Made me chuckle.

Why? What is is wrong with misspelling a word on an internet forum? Especially when Erik is a correct variation of the name Eric, it's not like he spelt every word wrong and used terrible grammar.

[Gabbo]

However, do the people that gave Percy Watson the nickname 'Showtime' know who Erik Young is, let alone that he uses/used that nickname? Of course not. If they did, they wouldn't have used it.

If you think no-one who devised or authorised the name have any idea of who Eric Young is, you're insane.

[Jaysin]

Why? What is is wrong with misspelling a word on an internet forum? Especially when Erik is a correct variation of the name Eric, it's not like he spelt every word wrong and used terrible grammar.

You don't understand, it actually made me chuckle when I read it. Not as an insult to him, but the whole situation. People are arguing whether the WWE knows about Eric Young or not, and he kept referring to him as Erik, which to my knowledge there is no wrestler named Showtime Erik Young.

It made me laugh. Do I need to use emoticons to show that I'm not being a jerk?

[Slagaholic]

Perhaps someone close to him is named Erik? That would easily explain him making the switch without realizing there was something wrong with the sentence.

I like to give posters the benefit of the doubt. Who knows when you will need it.

[Linsolv]

"Showtime" Erik Strong?

[Remianen]

Why? What is is wrong with misspelling a word on an internet forum? Especially when Erik is a correct variation of the name Eric, it's not like he spelt every word wrong and used terrible grammar.

Especially when 'Erik' is so much better of a spelling. So much sexier, masculine, and indicative of virility!

[The Final Countdown]

The spelling 'Erik' makes me think of vikings.

[Wrestling Century]

In your opinion, who is the hottest current WWE Diva and who is the hottest former WWE Diva? IMO the hottest current Diva is Kelly Kelly, and the hottest former Diva is Trish Stratus.

[Prophet]

Especially when 'Erik' is so much better of a spelling. So much sexier, masculine, and indicative of virility!

I can see that, what with the Norse link that it brings, but of the 3 spellings, I've always preferred the way ER alum (and Soul-Glo endorsee) Eriq La Salle spelled it. Maybe it's simply the unusual nature of it.

[Linsolv]

In your opinion, who is the hottest current WWE Diva and who is the hottest former WWE Diva? IMO the hottest current Diva is Kelly Kelly, and the hottest former Diva is Trish Stratus.

Beth Phoenix. I don't really know the past divas well enough to say on that.

[LoganRodzen]

Do I need to use emoticons to show that I'm not being a jerk?

It helps. That's for sure. ;)

[supershot]

In your opinion, who is the hottest current WWE Diva and who is the hottest former WWE Diva? IMO the hottest current Diva is Kelly Kelly, and the hottest former Diva is Trish Stratus.

How can you guys NOT being screaming Maryse!?

IMO Maryse and Trish.

[Astil]

I got something for Gail...

[Linsolv]

@supershot Mostly because I find a woman with muscle attractive. Enough that they look tough. Then there's the fact that Beth is muscular, but also has a nice figure.

[Slagaholic]

I like women who have mustaches. Just a little bit of stubble and we're good to go.

Unfortunately I don't think a mustached diva would get over well.

[The Final Countdown]

IMO Maryse and Trish.
I'd probably go along with that...but if Mickie were still in the E, I think I would rank her ahead of Maryse. As it is, she's a narrow 2nd to Trish.

[Linsolv]

I like women who have mustaches. Just a little bit of stubble and we're good to go.

Unfortunately I don't think a mustached diva would get over well.

Is that supposed to be aimed at me, mr dark-cowl-face?

[supershot]

Ahh page 314 has given me some good laughs :p

[Slagaholic]

Is that supposed to be aimed at me, mr dark-cowl-face?

Yes it was. And I was serious! I was with this girl who had a little stubby blond mustache. You couldn't tell unless you were right up close. It was so hot.

[supershot]

Yes it was. And I was serious! I was with this girl who had a little stubby blond mustache. You couldn't tell unless you were right up close. It was so hot.

:eek: We need you hook you up to a webcam so we can see you say that with a straight face!

[Slagaholic]

My daddy always said, "just because a man can tell you something with a straight face doesn't mean he's telling the truth."

[Linsolv]

My daddy always said not to talk to strangers.

... this is awkward.

[Teh_Showtime]

anyways Maryse wins now and forever

[jbergey_2005]

In your opinion, who is the hottest current WWE Diva and who is the hottest former WWE Diva? IMO the hottest current Diva is Kelly Kelly, and the hottest former Diva is Trish Stratus.

Id agree on Kelly Kelly as for former Id go with Torrie Wilson.

[|Anderz|]

after his awesome promo on Smackdown... Dashing Cody Rhodes is officially my new favourite wrestler...

oh, and Husky Harris is equally great.. hes my favourite NXT Rookie.. in fact I dont care about NXT, I just want Husky to be DASHING Cody Rhodes' lackey..

DASHING!

[supershot]

after his awesome promo on Smackdown... Dashing Cody Rhodes is officially my new favourite wrestler...

oh, and Husky Harris is equally great.. hes my favourite NXT Rookie.. in fact I dont care about NXT, I just want Husky to be DASHING Cody Rhodes' lackey..

DASHING!

I'm gonna have to agree. Cody is my new favorite character only because CM Punk barely gets mic time now.

[TracyBrooksFan]

In your opinion, who is the hottest current WWE Diva and who is the hottest former WWE Diva? IMO the hottest current Diva is Kelly Kelly, and the hottest former Diva is Trish Stratus.

Now- Kelly Kelly and Maryse

Former- Trish Stratus and Mickie

[TracyBrooksFan]

It has been confirmed that WWE stars Michelle McCool and Mark Calaway (a/k/a Undertaker) got married on Saturday in Houston, Texas. The two have been romantically linked since 2007.

The private ceremony was attended by family and numerous friends, including those involved with the wrestling industry. Click here to view a post-wedding photo of McCool alongside longtime friends Torrie Wilson, Lisa Marie Varon, and Sharmell.

Both have been previously married, Calaway having been married two previous times with McCool being married once before. Both have divorced as well in recent years — McCool divorced her "high school sweetheart" in 2006, and Calaway divorced his second wife Sara in 2006 or 2007.

[Jaysin]

It has been confirmed that WWE stars Michelle McCool and Mark Calaway (a/k/a Undertaker) got married on Saturday in Houston, Texas. The two have been romantically linked since 2007.

The private ceremony was attended by family and numerous friends, including those involved with the wrestling industry. Click here to view a post-wedding photo of McCool alongside longtime friends Torrie Wilson, Lisa Marie Varon, and Sharmell.

Both have been previously married, Calaway having been married two previous times with McCool being married once before. Both have divorced as well in recent years — McCool divorced her "high school sweetheart" in 2006, and Calaway divorced his second wife Sara in 2006 or 2007.

Where did you read that? I haven't seen that on any site. Granted I only go to prowrestling.net and prowrestling.com and wrestlezone when I feel like a good laugh.

If that's true then there goes my hope of WWE giving up on the talentless piece of blond McCrap

[TracyBrooksFan]

Where did you read that? I haven't seen that on any site. Granted I only go to prowrestling.net and prowrestling.com and wrestlezone when I feel like a good laugh.

If that's true then there goes my hope of WWE giving up on the talentless piece of blond McCrap

ewrestlingnews.com

i know now WWE universe stuck with McCool (not a fan of hers)

[Jaysin]

Wow, I wouldn't believe anything that site says. Ryan Clark...really?

[Linsolv]

I saw the same thing on Wrestling-Radio.com.

Story broke 3 hours ago, if it's true.

Now, there was a pretty convincing photo of her, Sharmell, Victoria, and Torrie Wilson (who I didn't recognize. I really don't care about divas, past or present.) hanging out with her in a white dress, but it's not what I'd call a wedding dress personally.

[EDIT: Wait! I could put it up!]
http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/m/michellemccool/gallery/photoscans/2/gallery1/145.jpg

Though then again there's no accounting for taste.

EDIT 2: Technically I really don't remember what Sharmell looks like either. So I took their word for Sharmell and Torrie Wilson. But I'm pretty sure that's Victoria.

[Jaysin]

I still wouldn't believe the majority of things Ryan Clark posts...

Though, Sharmell needs to pop those kids out asap!

[jwt13]

Wow, I wouldn't believe anything that site says. Ryan Clark...really?

He's the only site I go on and he's right 99% of the time

[b0shey]

Now she really is Michelle McTaker :p

[LoganRodzen]

This is gold. Absolute genius booking right now. This is how you get crazy intense heat.

(Nexus)

[|Anderz|]

SPOILER
It was obvious when Steamboat and the other legends were brought out that the Nexus would beat them up.. but it was awesome and continues the good booking of the group..

[supershot]

SPOILER

Spoiler on top of Spoiler:

It angered me that they stalled for 2 minutes to finish off the THREE OLD guys left in the ring when they had SIX YOUNG guys of them.

[alden]

anyone one have any clud at what kahli actuly did say? I am only half an hour into the show and i have to admit it is decent all around. I liked cena's "geek" stuff in his opening segment.....laughted when he said his mom deleted his wow acount......that is actuly kind of funny.

[Astil]

I love the timing they are using on Nexus. Really, really good.

My fiances comment on the ME: Whatever team wins, we lose because either Orton or Miz wins.

[thepeopleschamp]

Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett have been pulled from TV because of Visa
s expiring

[The Final Countdown]

I liked cena's "geek" stuff in his opening segment.....laughted when he said his mom deleted his wow acount......that is actuly kind of funny.
Really? I changed the channel pretty quick during that segment. About the time Cena said "bologna, fudge, mustard!" or whatever the hell it was.

[LoganRodzen]

Really? I changed the channel pretty quick during that segment. About the time Cena said "bologna, fudge, mustard!" or whatever the hell it was.

I definitely can't say I liked any of what he was saying during that segment went it got all Cena-jokes, but he definitely sets a good examples for the kiddies. It felt way too forced to be honest and it didn't seem natural at all. I'm curious what writer thought it was gold? And it technically was no matter if you liked it or not. :eek: His jokes were as mainstream as you can get.

[juggaloninjalee]

Barrett and McIntyre will be back though right? I wonder how they are going to explain that on air...

[TracyBrooksFan]

Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett have been pulled from WWE television as their current work visas have expired and they are no longer eligible to work within the United States. In the case of Barrett, he has returned to Great Britain while he awaits a new visa to be cleared. Meanwhile, McIntyre is still believed to be in United States.

According to company sources, no timetable has been set regarding their respective returns.

More shortly.

[Trell]

I'm actually only watching Raw right now to see what they do with the nexus, I feel they have done a superb job with how they've made them look. :)

[Remianen]

Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett have been pulled from WWE television as their current work visas have expired and they are no longer eligible to work within the United States. In the case of Barrett, he has returned to Great Britain while he awaits a new visa to be cleared. Meanwhile, McIntyre is still believed to be in United States.

According to company sources, no timetable has been set regarding their respective returns.

More shortly.

I don't get this at all. I'm not anywhere as large as WWE and I can get visas cleared inside of two weeks! Did they somehow forget they were foreigners and needed to keep their papers in order? Angelina Love's bit baffled me but this is like, jeez!

[juggaloninjalee]

That is dumb! They should be on the air and we need some explaination. This will be a total of 3 guys to all of a sudden dissappear. 2 of which were the best. Bryan and Barrett! I am worried WWE may drop the ball here.

[Linsolv]

I dunno, Jugg.

I kinda think that for the rest of NXT, Bryan and Barrett might have been something of a crutch. Without them, the rest of the guys are going to have to sack up.

[UkWrestleFan]

They should've said Barrett took a beating from x amount of wrestlers for actions of The Nexus. Because he's the 'leader' he gets the punishment.

[CQI13]

I don't get this at all. I'm not anywhere as large as WWE and I can get visas cleared inside of two weeks! Did they somehow forget they were foreigners and needed to keep their papers in order? Angelina Love's bit baffled me but this is like, jeez!

HA! I was waiting to see when this would get brought up. Seems like shoddy management plagues wrestling companies of all sizes.

[Marshall]

Spoiler on top of Spoiler:

when they had SIX YOUNG guys of them.

They're not just young - wild and young, i've heard.

[supershot]

They're not just young - wild and young, i've heard.

Even more of a reason they should have just went after them. They had them severely outnumbered.

[Tha Black Phenom]

They should've said Barrett took a beating from x amount of wrestlers for actions of The Nexus. Because he's the 'leader' he gets the punishment.

That's something that would make more sense if they showed on TV than off-camera though.

Wrestlers have always had visa problems I guess. I remember when I went to my first house show and Kennedy/Umaga couldn't appear because of visa problems. God, was I devastated.

[LoganRodzen]

Barrett not being on RAW was explained - he was "meeting with WWE officials" concerning something. I really for the life of me can't remember what. I bet WWE expected McIntyre to be OK since he got married to that Tiffany chick from ECW. I think his situation will be worked out quicker then the rest. And hasn't Teddy Long been screwing McIntyre on SD? He can say he suspended him / fired him / whatever they want.

EDIT: Yeah, Barrett was meeting WWE officials to talk about the McMahon attack from last week because he's the leader of Nexus. Not sure how I forgot that in less than 24 hours. My memory is shot apparently.

[supershot]

And hasn't Teddy Long been screwing McIntyre on SD? He can say he suspended him / fired him / whatever they want.

Last weeks Smackdown he was actually deported onscreen. This was actually before news sites broke this story.

[LoganRodzen]

Last weeks Smackdown he was actually deported onscreen. This was actually before news sites broke this story.

I haven't seen SD in years. I went to a few tapings before in Boston but I had never actually been a viewer. Only back in late '99 when it first debuted and it was more or less a continuation of RAW. Non-live TV wrestling doesn't really interest me these days unless it's TNA which I've ignored all spoilers (not that I read them before, I was completely uninterested) and watched the show on Thursday's. I've enjoyed the past few Impact's for the majority of what they were.

SD could probably hook me too but I feel like watching Impact and RAW is enough wrestling for me in a week.

[supershot]

SD could probably hook me too but I feel like watching Impact and RAW is enough wrestling for me in a week.

I encourage you to watch SD over RAW :)

Last weeks Matt Hardy vs. McIntyre was INTENSE. Best I've seen out of Matt in awhile.

[Self]

Just read the Smackdown spoilers. How lame has that show become since the draft? For a long time that was the only wrestling show I'd watch every single week (worked well for my schedule) but for the past 3 weeks there has been absolutely nothing on there I want to tune in to see. Maybe it's just my general apathy towards WWE right now, but my god does this week's episode sound like a boring show.

Also, NXT made a poor choice. Not only in the poll, but in redoing the Keg Carry Challenge.