The Official WWE Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Astil]

Yeeeeees~

[tommyb]

Vince calling for ADR, but Punk escapes through the crowd.

[GhostDogg]

Its officiall

This PPV was AWESOME!!

Even I didnt see this coming.. and Usually predict everything!!

[borman_48]

Unbelievable. That was a main event delivered.

[FINisher]

PPV and Match of the Year.

I'm shaking and in almost tears. It's 5.50AM here, sun is shining to my apartment.


Incredible.


Thank you Chicago, thank you Punk.



This is wrestling.

[Bull]

Finally the WWE gives the people what they want.:D:D:D

[The Shape]

This is the best show I have ever seen. Punk cements himself as one of the all time greats. The crowd more than did their part. Cena was awesome. The MITBs were awesome. Orton/Christian was awesome. And that is the single best ending to any show I have ever seen. Oh my god. Hyperbole, I don't care. That was everything this business is about.

[20LEgend]

What a moment!

It's 4 O'Clock, how am I supposed to sleep after that. So perfectly executed.

Cena fired? CM Punk f***s over the WWE? Daniel Bryan MTB winner? Have I slipped into some sick parallel universe, where we the IWC rule. What is going on?

[JTandSilentBob]

I DGAF what anybody says. TNA can't and won't put on better PPV's then WWE. MITB was proof of that.

[jjohns44]

what an awesome pay per view, dare I say even better than this year's Mania? :P Punk/Cena was unreal, definitely in Cena's tops for matches. The facial expressions throughout the match even said a lot. Punk's was full of this emotion that really had you believe it was all real.

[20LEgend]

^^^ Miles, miles, miles, miles better than this years WrestleMania!

[The Shape]

This show was so good that (no matter how) Christian won the world title, could get at least a month long reign, and it's barely on the radar.

[MattitudeV2]

Two Summers in a row where WWE finds something f'n original last year was the Nexus and this year is Punk stealing the WWE Championship.

[FINisher]

I just put the headphones down. The volume was on FULL, all the way to bottom right. My hair is sweaty. And now it's all complete silence here. I hear few birds singing outside.

Unreal moment.

Unreal.

[tommyb]

That PPV left me thinking the best possible thing any wrestling show can leave the viewer thinking.

What the **** happens now?!

[Prophet]

That was phenomenal. Shows like this reaffirm my faith in the ebb and flow of wrestling.

A little sad the cameraman was so painstakingly diligent in keeping Colt off camera, though. Just show him high five Punk once, c'mon. lol

[Astil]

That was phenomenal. Shows like this reaffirm my faith in the ebb and flow of wrestling.

A little sad the cameraman was so painstakingly diligent in keeping Colt off camera, though. Just show him high five Punk once, c'mon. lol

I saw him high five punk. First time they went to the floor.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

I Cant Believe They Went Through With It I Am So Happy Right Now

[MasterJ]

I DGAF what anybody says. TNA can't and won't put on better PPV's then WWE. MITB was proof of that.

Destionation X was a better PPV all around, but this is deff #2 behind that for ppv of the year

[Astil]

Destionation X was a better PPV all around, but this is deff #2 behind that for ppv of the year

Disagree but not open to arguing about it.

[The Shape]

Two Summers in a row where WWE finds something f'n original last year was the Nexus and this year is Punk stealing the WWE Championship.

Indeed. Different ways though, that was an awesome angle that never really peaked...this, no matter how awesome it is or isn't from now on, already has.

I just put the headphones down. The volume was on FULL, all the way to bottom right. My hair is sweaty. And now it's all complete silence here. I hear few birds singing outside.

Unreal moment.

Unreal.

I know man. So weird just sitting here now all hyped lol

[BloodyKnuckles]

The best PPV I have ever seen, and Cena/Punk just put on BY FAR the best match of the year.

Amazing, amazing show. I honestly can't believe just how good it was, I've never been that entertained by anything before, Punk/Cena tore the house down and the finish was absolutely perfect!

I've never been a bigger wrestling fan then I am right now, you bet you're ass I'm watching Raw tomorrow! I can't wait, the Vince/Cena/Punk storyline is about to get even better.

And, hopefully this means Punk is staying!

[Mr Rager]

Epic. Nothing more needs to be said.

[Prophet]

I saw him high five punk. First time they went to the floor.

Yeah, but even then, they were trying to swing away from the barrier. And Cole said he was celebrating with "the Chicago faithful." I understand he's (assumedly) not under contract, but his name has been mentioned enough recently to validate Cole saying the word Cabana once.

I will say, though, that if my biggest gripe of the entire show is simply the misinformation of a "fan" in the front row, it's gotta be a pretty solid show. lol

[MasterJ]

That was a very good ending. I cant wait for Raw. Vince please dont screw this up like everything else you do.

[tommyb]

Destionation X was a better PPV all around, but this is deff #2 behind that for ppv of the year

I really enjoyed Destination X, but enjoyed MitB much more. I guess it just comes down to whether you like X-Division style wrestling, or sports entertainment more. The big advantage MitB has, not to say I didn't think all of the matches were great, was that it has provided much more in terms of potential storylines, shock, and excitement than DX which was largely just about the matches as a one off spectacle not about telling a story.

[TheLeviticalLawKid3]

Love what I'm reading. Can't wait for RAW.

[The Shape]

Yeah, but even then, they were trying to swing away from the barrier. And Cole said he was celebrating with "the Chicago faithful." I understand he's (assumedly) not under contract, but his name has been mentioned enough recently to validate Cole saying the word Cabana once.

I will say, though, that if my biggest gripe of the entire show is simply the misinformation of a "fan" in the front row, it's gotta be a pretty solid show. lol

Plus there were several Cabana chants lol. Although I didn't see him there, thought they just felt like chanting his name :D

[Astil]

I know man. So weird just sitting here now all hyped lol

Try explaining it to the two non wrestling fans I live with who didn't watch it who came out like "Dude, what's got you so hyped up" :p

[AzzMartin]

This is so sad, but I legitimately drew the punk x's on my hands and drug free across my knuckles at the beginning of the match. Damn that was incredible. It's 4 o'clock now but I'm so hyped up now there's no chance of sleeping. Screw it, I'm watching it all over again

[20LEgend]

Destionation X was a better PPV all around, but this is deff #2 behind that for ppv of the year

Yeah not arguing, but IMO this blew DX (which I was one of the more positive fans of) out of the metaphorical water.

Also,

That PPV left me thinking the best possible thing any wrestling show can leave the viewer thinking.

What the **** happens now?!

Absolutely right, my brain is in a fuzz.

wrestling is "fake"? This is real! My reaction how much "real" stuff can do this.

[GhostDogg]

I am going to tell you this right now.

I have just went 44 bucks inthe hole in my bank account.
I have to stay up for an extra 2 hours for work tommorow.

And I probably have to watch the Twilight trilogy with my gf as payback.


But believe me...this was well worth it. The match from begining to end was CLEARLY 5 Stars. And the ending no one saw coming.

Thank you Mr. Punk. You are right. You have clearly made WWE Relevant again.

[Prophet]

Plus there were several Cabana chants lol. Although I didn't see him there, thought they just felt like chanting his name :D

Is it weird that I was chanting with them? When Punk hit that GTS, and Cena fell out of the ring, I felt the words "Go help him, Colt, c'mon" leave my lips. lol

[FINisher]

6.07AM. How the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight? Sun is shining straight into my apartment across the lake.

[The Shape]

Try explaining it to the two non wrestling fans I live with who didn't watch it who came out like "Dude, what's got you so hyped up" :p

Haha indeed. Since Rock came back a lot of people I know have been paying more attention to it, it's back on the radar so to speak. But still, it's a strange one.

[20LEgend]

6.07AM. How the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight? Sun is shining straight into my apartment across the lake.

You're not, neither am I! :D

[FINisher]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/sadhappy/Files/blank.jpg

Isn't it ironic..


That CM Punk is the reason..


.. I can't..


Go To Sleep?

[Astil]

Is it weird that I was chanting with them? When Punk hit that GTS, and Cena fell out of the ring, I felt the words "Go help him, Colt, c'mon" leave my lips. lol

I did too, but I did it when Cena dragged Punk back to the middle of the ring in the STF.

[20LEgend]

FIN that is amazing. I love CM Punk more now!

[tommyb]

Very well planned, very well executed. As well as the obvious there were a number of little things that went into the building up of this match. I can't help but feel that WWE (though probably unintentionally at first) has been educating the casual fan about the Montreal screwjob for months, starting with the return of Bret Hart. Newer fans may not have fully appreciated part of the finish without that.

[Teh_Showtime]

That was an instant classic. Amazing and unpredictable, just as a wrestling match should be. WWE seems to be on a roll. It will be hard for SS to top this, even with Punk involved.

[Bull]

That was probably the best pay per view I have watched in a long time.

Just wondering if they keep Cena off TV for any length of time with this firing thing, will they give him the chance to change his character up, or will he come back as the same old Cena, or will he even be gone at all?

[Astil]

So is Punk a face now everywhere he goes?

[jjohns44]

That was probably the best pay per view I have watched in a long time.

Just wondering if they keep Cena off TV for any length of time with this firing thing, will they give him the chance to change his character up, or will he come back as the same old Cena, or will he even be gone at all?


loophole in Vince's 'you're fired' thing, it was Vince who distracted Cena with his BS he was doing, he basically put this all on himself...

[Jaysin]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/sadhappy/Files/blank.jpg


:confused:

[FINisher]

Because it looks stupid if it starts right from the top and you can't press enter and do it that way. I went for a smaller picture though, lol. :p

[Jaysin]

:p

I lol'd

[crownsy]

Destionation X was a better PPV all around, but this is deff #2 behind that for ppv of the year

Not even close...I dont even think that was tna's best ppv this year...

Great ending, didn't think they'd do it. Actually legit interested in a raw, it's been awhile ;)

[MrOnu]

Wow.

CM Punk leaving with the title was the less probable scenario for me and it happened. I'm pleasentely surprised. So much intriguing possible storylines from now that my brain hurts ! It was a really good match too with little side stories, lows and highs, drama and a surreal atmosphere. If anyone wonders why we like wrestling, we should point to tonight and this magic moment.

Overall show was good I'd say. The two MITB were different enough to keep the act interesting all night long. I believe every single of the 16 participant had their moment. Alberto Del Rio winning was a bit predictable, but they couldn't throw curveballs all night. Poor Daniel Bryan will be the first guy to cash in and lose. At least, he will have the chance to cash unlike Mr Kennedy.

Show/Henry met my expectation which were not very high like everyone else. I like the booking though, they have something going there. With the stipulation, Christian was likely to win, and he did, I'm just not sure about the sequence of events. I mean, he spat in his face, that's not something that bad imo. And why kicking Christian in the balls at the exact moment, after the referee already warned you and you have backed down ? There's some logic that escapes me there. This match was a bit too long for my liking, I thought it dragged somewhere in the middle.

Still, overall a really good night of wrasslin' and I can't wait to see what's next !

[Arrows]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg739/scaled.php?tn=0&server=739&filename=w4yph.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

When Cena took down the tool. Colt's face tells it all.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

I mean, he spat in his face, that's not something that bad imo.

I dunno. I'm a pretty mellow guy but I wouldn't let somebody spit in my face without going crazy.

[Jaysin]

I dunno. I'm a pretty mellow guy but I wouldn't let somebody spit in my face without going crazy.

Same. In fact, its actually happened to me.

[lazorbeak]

Checking up a suspicion I had on cagematch, I found that Punk is 5-0 against Cena in 2011. Granted most of those were storyline wins that kept Cena looking strong, but kayfabe wise, Punk has Cena's number.


Also, clearly Randy Orton is not nearly as good a role model as Atticus Finch.

[cappyboy]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg739/scaled.php?tn=0&server=739&filename=w4yph.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

When Cena took down the tool. Colt's face tells it all.

Dude, what's with the shadows in this picture? Or am I the only one seeing something unusual here?

[Jaysin]

Dude, what's with the shadows in this picture? Or am I the only one seeing something unusual here?

Probably the person taking the picture...

[Arrows]

Probably the person taking the picture...

Yea.

[cappyboy]

Probably the person taking the picture...

Not quite what I mean. Look more closely at the shadows. It's not their presence that strikes me odd. It's the form they appear to take.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Not quite what I mean. Look more closely at the shadows. It's not their presence that strikes me odd. It's the form they appear to take.

Its taken from a TV photos usually look weird

[Eigan]

Not quite what I mean. Look more closely at the shadows. It's not their presence that strikes me odd. It's the form they appear to take.

So...big deal, the Juggernaut is watching the PPV. He's entitled to some entertainment now and then.

[cappyboy]

So...big deal, the Juggernaut is watching the PPV. He's entitled to some entertainment now and then.

LOL

Not quite what came to mind when I saw that one. But since you mention it, I could see Juggernaut there as well.

[Prophet]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg739/scaled.php?tn=0&server=739&filename=w4yph.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

When Cena took down the tool. Colt's face tells it all.

Doesn't that strike you as a "why didn't I think of that?" moment? lol

[nucleardonkey]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg739/scaled.php?tn=0&server=739&filename=w4yph.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

When Cena took down the tool. Colt's face tells it all.

Is it just me or does the one shadow in the background look like someone holding a gun to their own head? Please tell I'm not the only one who sees that.

[Eigan]

Is it just me or does the one shadow in the background look like someone holding a gun to their own head? Please tell I'm not the only one who sees that.

Yeah, I see that too.

[Remianen]

Yes, he does also suggest that Cena can do better... but he's basically saying "you're matches are crap, stop having crap matches". I wouldn't exactly call it an encouraging pad on the shoulder.

*shrug* Different strokes. Some of the best coaches I've had in life are the ones who called me on my slacking (and did it publicly, in front of my teammates), often in vulgar fashion. It's like the Betty White Snickers commercial IMO.

That was probably the best pay per view I have watched in a long time.

I agree. In hindsight, I would've actually paid for it. (And before WC gets to huffin', I watched it at a neighbor's house. HE bought it)

If they could do this 12 times a year....

And I'll say one thing about CM Punk, quoting Deion Sanders: Pay that man. Like those brown trucks, he delivers.

[dvdWarrior]

Great PPV, from what I can gather, can't help but be a little excited.

But...

I'm lost...

I spent a lot of time in this neighborhood way back in the 90s, and back then it was home...

But now, the building all look different and someone's changed all the road signs...

Long story short, I got so used to mainstream wrestling reeking to high heavens that now, I don't know what to do when it rocks....

Like I've been living just one paycheck away from homelessness for the past ten years, and now, all of a sudden, I win the lottery....

Not sure where to go from here....

Looking forward to the journey though.

[BHK1978]

Is it just me or does the one shadow in the background look like someone holding a gun to their own head? Please tell I'm not the only one who sees that.

Do I see the grassy knoll back there or is that just Lee Harvey Oswald?

The main event was great.


I do want to say that I really enjoyed the Smackdown MITB match much more than the RAW version. Which I found odd because I thought that the RAW version had more stars in their match. Maybe I need to start watching Smackdown.

[Hashasheen]

This was insane...

Daniel Bryan is Mr. Money in the Bank? The Internet probably blew its load right then and there.


CM Punk wins the title and leaves with it? Probably the one outcome I didn't put a lot of my expectations on. How things go tonight on Raw will determine everything...

[ShaunGBD]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/sadhappy/Files/blank.jpg

Isn't it ironic..


That CM Punk is the reason..


.. I can't..


Go To Sleep?




Best post ever

[ShaunGBD]

The best PPV I have ever seen, and Cena/Punk just put on BY FAR the best match of the year.
And, hopefully this means Punk is staying!

Disagree, it was ok, watchable but MOTY? No

[Wrestling Century]

I agree. In hindsight, I would've actually paid for it. (And before WC gets to huffin', I watched it at a neighbor's house. HE bought it)

If they could do this 12 times a year....

And I'll say one thing about CM Punk, quoting Deion Sanders: Pay that man. Like those brown trucks, he delivers.

:p I suppose next time I should think before I spout out one of my anti-piracy rants, or else everybody will continue to think of me as one of those....ah, what's the word for it? One of those crazy people? :p

[BHK1978]

:p I suppose next time I should think before I spout out one of my anti-piracy rants, or else everybody will continue to think of me as one of those....ah, what's the word for it? One of those crazy people? :p

Your not crazy at all, I actually agree with you. Unless we are both crazy...

[djthefunkchris]

Punk won? Wow! Never seen that coming.:p

Wish they would have got ADR out there and had him lose too, but I guess the match between Cena and Punk was alot longer then I had invisioned it? I missed the whole thing, might catch it on a later date, especially after hearing all the coments about it.

[Wrestling Century]

Your not crazy at all, I actually agree with you. Unless we are both crazy...

Oh, I'm pretty sure that your not crazy. :p The phrase/word I was actually looking for (that I just remembered) to describe what I hope people wouldn't think of me is a "self-righteous watchdog'. Yeah. I think. :D

[The Final Countdown]

I didn't see the show, but I'm strongly considering buying it on DVD. I honestly cannot remember the last WWE DVD I bought (aside from the awesome retrospectives they put out), but it sounds like this one would be worth it. Especially as someone who has been a huge ROH fan for years, and watched both Punk and Danielson "grow up", so to speak.

[dvdWarrior]

I'll definitely buy it on DVD.

I was just thinking, I know it won't happen, but wouldn't it be odd if Punk did take the belt to Ring Of Honor and Daniel Bryan showed up to cash in his Money In The Bank there?

The contract does say anytime, anyplace, as I recall, right?

Sure it won't happen though, especially since Bryan's MITB is the SmackDown! one...

But still, it's a thought.

:)

[ZMAN]

Sounds like an amazing PPV.(only made it through a few bits)

Glad to see Danielson win. I would like to see him cash it in at Wrestlemania. Yeah, Bryans not gonna sell tickets, but come on they have The Rock to do that. I just think it would be a cool moment for an underdog like Bryan to wait until the biggest show of the year to claim that spotlight. Only thing is, is that it's 9 months away so they would have to work really hard at keeping him as a strong competitor for that long. He probably will cash it in and lose, but w/e, it's Daniel Bryan ffs, I never would have even expected him to win a MITB. Bryans getting pretty good treatment for a guy who isn't your typical WWE "superstar."

Punk/Cena was craaaazy. My heart jumped when Cena knocked out Laurintis, ****in' hilarious. I doubted the whole storyline last week, but it looks like they're actually gonna go somewhere with all of this. My guess is they pretty much signed Punk to a deal which just promised him a vacation between now and Summer Slam. If this was all 100% work then that was just an amazing month of story telling.

I'm rly having a hard time even predicting where this goes from here. Punk is supposed to be gone, and Cena fired... They could make some really good TV out of this, and for once do angles that take place outside of the arena. Punk on the run playing the villain, Cena trying to get his job back, and Vince trying to fix the damage that's been done to his company. Does Punk defend the belt in another company? Can ADR cash in his MITB at THAT company? jesus, just so many scenarios that could happen.

[ampulator]

Well, if Vince really wanted to fire Cena, he wouldn't have interfered. :p Maybe they even break more fourth-wall stuff, like admitting Cena is his money-maker?

[sebsplex]

Excellent ppv (not quite from top to bottom as the Divas match was poor) and one of those nights that reminds me why despite all the WWE's failings, I keep coming back from time to time - their ability to deliver memorable nights like this. Those oh so precious nuggets of gold.

Kudos to the WWE for their handling of Punk/Cena and the amount of time they gave it. Great crowd, great booking. I was pretty sceptical throughout a lot of the bout, but really became invested when Punk escaped the second STF and became legitimately excited that we might see a Pepsi Plunge when both men went to the turnbuckle for what turned out to be a hurricanrana by Punk. :rolleyes: Anyway, I marked out for the win and marked out even more for the KO on ADR when he ran in.

Now comes the acid test of the storyline... what happens now?

Highly enjoyable MiTB matches too. The RAW one was a bit more botchy (shame that Rey caused the ladder to rock backward for the finish especially), but still had enough highspots and moments to keep it interesting. Bourne's SSP in the aisle was arguably the best spot. I did really find the announcing really uneccessary after the Daniel Bryan match... way to signpost that he's going to be the man who cashes in his shot and doesn't get the belt. Just seemed OTT, especially when it wasn't followed up for ADR, but it's a minor criticism.

Orton vs Christian was better than I anticipated. Nice to see Xtian with the gold again, although I'm yet to be convinced it's a worthwhile pay-off for his previous short reign debacle, although on balance, he'll probably be stronger as a heel champion rather than a face, but he could have turned whilst holding the belt anyway... still, what's done is done, he's got it again now.

The rest... already covered the Divas match. BS/Henry was enjoyable for what it was. A nice change of pace on the ppv and kinda surprising how easily Henry ploughed through Show. I'm not really too sure where Henry goes though, because this must be Mark Henry push x 526 and ultimately, I can only see him being built up before being served to Orton.

Overall though, an awesome night of wrestling. Luckily, this was free on Sky Sports because I'm not convinced that going in, I would have had the faith to pay for it and I'd have been gutted to miss it as it went down.

Must see RAW tonight for definite.

[20LEgend]

I just woke up and reading these I remember, when CM Punk got put right in the middle of the ring for the STF. I thought that was it right there... until he reversed it.

[Solarstorm]

One of the best Main events I've seen in years.

[Nathers7]

Who actually thought both Christian and Punk would walk out with the titles? Lol, when Del Rio came down I thought "It looks like the predictions are goig to be correct". Punk is the new Stone Cold, no one will forget this. It's like when Austin won King Of The Ring in 96. I wonder if Cena will take a break (due to being jaded) and Punk will become the new megaface for a few months?

[1234]

That. Was. Awesome.

Punk literally escaping Chicago with the belt. D Bryan (as Booker annoyingly says constantly) holding the MiTB. Christian with the World Title. This all feels surreal.

Now just got to wait to see where they are going with Punk. But after that show I truly believe it will be magical.

[FINisher]

Guys, also. We finally got we wanted. Excitement, right champions, great matches. I just woke up at 14.30PM :D


Buy stuff. Order stuff. Watch stuff. Buy DVD's (especially MitB, shirts, watch RAW & SD! if you're at the States, order PPV's. Let's make it clear this is what we want.

*ordering his CM Punk shirts*

[LoNdOn]

What a PPV! I loved Bryan winning the Smackdown MITB. That is who I would have wanted to win but wouldn't have guessed even if he was only one of two. Christian winning the World title again was great and the Punk match was fantastic.

[Teh_Showtime]

CM Punk has a pic on twitter of the WWE title in a refridgerator... classic

[20LEgend]

CM Punk has a pic on twitter of the WWE title in a refridgerator... classic

:cool: , literally

[milamber]

SD Ladder Match - Fun opening match. Sheamus' power bomb on Sin Cara looked nasty. I would have picked Sheamus, Barrett or Rhodes to win but Daniel Bryan? OMFG! I assume this is to make Bryan SD's number 2 face.

Henry v Big Show - Not my favourite type of match-up but I like Heel Henry and Big Show's selling of his leg injury.

Raw Ladder Match - Good use of the small ladders. Loads of high flying spots. Miz cops a spectacular injury and the crowd pops when he rushes back in. The crowd go nuts as Del Rio unmasks Rey and wins!

Christian v Orton - I thought it was one match too many going in but the strength of the feud and the performances made this a good match yet again. I wasn't sure which way it would go but I like the way it ended.

Punk v Cena - Punk's entrance getting bigger pop than Cena and Orton usually get = Awesome. Match of the Year that got better as it went along, with a Wrestlemania Main Event feel to it. Punk was on top form as expected. Props to Cena for pulling out some unique variations of his usual moves plus a couple of different ones (especially after getting injured). Punk winning the epic battle and avoiding losing the belt to Del Rio with Vince looking sick to the stomach was perfect. The WWE creative team are finally delivering.

Best PPV of the year so far. Looking forward to Summerslam.

[FINisher]

CM Punk has a pic on twitter of the WWE title in a refridgerator... classic

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?tn=0&server=740&filename=b09zy.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

:p

[liontamer]

was there live. Awesome crowd aside from the drunk guy next to me. Awesome main event. A couple of questions....

The guy in the black was colt cabana, right?
who was the guy next to him?

who was the guy with vince, laurinitis (sp?)?

Could you here on TV if they rung the bell when ADR came in. I think it'd be hilarious if that counts as his match, given all of the destiny talk.

[FINisher]

who was the guy with vince, laurinitis (sp?)?

Could you here on TV if they rung the bell when ADR came in. I think it'd be hilarious if that counts as his match, given all of the destiny talk.

John Laurinaitis (born July 31, 1965) is an executive with WWE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE). He was previously a professional wrestler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling) known as Johnny Ace, and is credited as the inventor of the "Ace Crusher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_%28professional_wrestling%29)" maneuver. He is also the younger brother of Joe Laurinaitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Warrior_Animal) (Road Warrior Animal; one half of the wrestling tag team The Road Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Warriors)), and the uncle of James Laurinaitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Laurinaitis), former Ohio State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State) standout and currently a linebacker for the St. Louis Rams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams).


Could you here on TV if they rung the bell when ADR came in. I think it'd be hilarious if that counts as his match, given all of the destiny talk.


No? It never rang. Did it ring live? :eek: Atleast I didn't hear it at all. Also it was announced that the bell did not ring when Punk escaped to the crowd.

[The Shape]

Who actually thought both Christian and Punk would walk out with the titles? Lol, when Del Rio came down I thought "It looks like the predictions are goig to be correct". Punk is the new Stone Cold, no one will forget this. It's like when Austin won King Of The Ring in 96. I wonder if Cena will take a break (due to being jaded) and Punk will become the new megaface for a few months?

Yeah I'm wondering now. I don't want to second guess it too much but the commentators were still putting Punk over as a heel, but the way he went out and stuck it to Vince, surely he's gonna have everyone behind him now and they may have to adjust.

[Carmichael]

John Cena wont get enough credit for what he did last night. He put over punk perfectly and was better than punk in the ring. I know the story is punk is awesome which is true but Cena needs some credit too. Great guy. Great match. Cena is just perfect at not overselling himself when crowds are against him, see 2006 ONS and last night.

The story was punk last night and Cena never took away from that at all, even though he got as much heat as punk got pops.

[20LEgend]

I agree Cena did well, really good acting with the near falls. I liked his entrance as well head down and straight to the thing. Just like at ONS.

[FINisher]

Also what I noticed was the new modified moves of Cena that we haven't seen. What a match. My "CM Punk was the reason I couldn't.. Go To Sleep." line is one of the highest rated comments on youtube videos. :D

[20LEgend]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?tn=0&server=740&filename=b09zy.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

:p

Pepsi :D

What are those cans and bottle of in the bottom of the fridge below the pepsies?

[cappyboy]

Is it just me or does the one shadow in the background look like someone holding a gun to their own head? Please tell I'm not the only one who sees that.

No. Definitely not the only one. But like Brother Eigan's post about the big one not what came to mind when I saw it. Although I can certainly see that dimension since you bring it up.

[milamber]

I gotta find myself some CM Punk shirts.

[ZMAN]

In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy.

Troublemaker!

[milamber]

MITB Dark Match: Santino Marella & Vladimir Kozlov beat WWE Tag Team Champions David Otunga & Michael McGillicutty when Santino pinned Otunga.

From pwmania.com:

STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy.

Injury looked pretty legit but I guess not. Miz's injury I'm sure was legit and I wouldn't be surprised if it was his idea to return to the ring. And Cena looked to be wrestling through pain for awhile.

Thanks to Chris Brainard for the following:

After CM Punk left through the crowd, Vince McMahon stood there shocked on the apron looking out into the crowd for a few minutes before slowly walking towards the back. He waited for Johnny Ace, who was being helped by two referees. Vince then nailed Johnny, laying him out before walking off.

[20LEgend]

Sin Cara is looking like a flop, not going well tbh

[FINisher]

Twitter comments from other wrestlers etc:

Kevin Nash: “MITB better than any mma ppv I’ve watched. Punk continues to gain my respect and Jay is the F**KIN man,WWE at it’s best”

Mick Foley: “I don’t think I’ve ever been jealous of a wrestler’s character before. Money, yes, character, no. @cmpunk has changed that. Damn. Damn!”

Steve Austin: “@CMPunk and @JohnCena had a big time pro wrestling match. I loved it. And I loved the finish. Congrats to both guys. Great stuff.”

“WOW!!! What a Tremendous reception for @CMPunk! That was a 10 out of 10. Hell Yeah!”

Trish Stratus: “What’s so wrong w/ leaving the company as champion, right @wweuniverse? Hehe! Great match-the ‘to be continued’ is what’s got me #mustseetv”

Sean Waltman: “That was f**king unbelievable. Glad I decided on a later flight in order to see that. Hats off to both guys and to WWE for doing it right. Now I can get on my flight a happy man. Thanks @CMPunk and @JohnCena . Thanks to Chicago for making that so electric. Best bldg in world.”

Seth Rollins: “We’re still a wrestling company and that was how professional wrestling is done.”

Joey Styles: “I can’t believe this. Our WWE Champion doesn’t work for WWE and John Cena is or will be fired. OMG! Holy Crap!”

[Fantabulous]

Daniel Bryan winning the SD MitB was a surprise because I didn’t think they saw him on the level of even having a fluke World title win, so I think it’s a reasonable bet to make that Bryan becomes the first MitB winner to cash in and lose. Of course, that’s assuming he keeps the briefcase and they don’t simply have him lose to someone else down the road and he only won it here because they both wanted a surprise and wanted to get people in the mindset of expecting surprises in readiness for what they pull later in the night.

Henry/Show was about the right length and they put Henry over so strongly that it makes Orton’s title loss later on appear to be a short-term deal

ADR winning the Raw MitB was expected and set up one of the more predicted finishes in the main event, which almost happened.

Christian backdoors into the World title and just to make sure nobody even entertained the idea that this meant something positive, they have Christian get beaten up and laid out. See you in the Midcard, Christian. I wonder if they’ll have Daniel Bryan explain on SD why he didn’t cash in his briefcase here because it was the perfect time.

I’m impressed the writer of that sign spelt Muay Thai correctly.

Justin Roberts is terrible as a ring announcer. He comes off like he is trying way too hard to be this big, impressive speaker and it just doesn’t wash.

The main event was fantastic and had some hot near falls, although I felt the referee hurt it with the way he counted them; he counted like it was going to be a near fall rather than if it was going to be the actual fall, and you really need to do it like that to get the full drama. Go back and watch the counts in the last few Undertaker Wrestlemania matches, when they’re doing the super near falls, and you’ll see a big difference.

When Cena slugged Ace, I guarantee the entire locker room popped.

I give credit to WWE doing the finish they did, not because it's a great finish and probably the best one they could have done, but because it required stepping out of their comfort zone and doing something original and fresh, and they stayed the course despite the (overblown) negativity surrounding the Raw rating.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Haha! Damn! I am taken aback in so many ways, masterful PPV. Have a hard time settling down...



But on a side note, I don't think Bryan will cash in and fail. Fact of the matter is, the main-event spotlight needs new babyfaces, other than Cena, Orton, Rey and Kane. Only reason you see him failing now is because he hasn't been built up yet. Just like people saw The Miz losing because he's been dwarfed on a few occasions(while still climbing the figurative ladder.. no pun intended).

The rest of the year may be magical, with the building up of DB all the way to the fallout of the WWE title situation... and soon as next year comes in, we're gonna go overdrive with The Rock/Cena hype towards Mania. Good time to be a fan, I feel.

[Jaysin]

The guy in the black was colt cabana, right?
who was the guy next to him?

Yes, Colt was the man in black.

Ace Steel was the man next to him. He's Punk's friend, former stablemate(Second City Saints), and trainer.

[Tha Black Phenom]

One of the greater Twitter posts out there:

"CM Punk just defeated the final boss of wrestling. He was won the game."


:D

[Jaysin]

One of the greater Twitter posts out there:

"CM Punk just defeated the final boss of wrestling. He was won the game."


:D

That was awesome!

[ShaunGBD]

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?tn=0&server=740&filename=b09zy.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

:p

I know your on the road a lot, but man stock up for your fridge.

What are those cans and bottle of in the bottom of the fridge below the pepsies?

Probable beer, he goes to bars but as we know he doesn't drink. he probable has it for guest.

bonus: he shops at target.

Is that a CM punk cup?

[MrOnu]

Same. In fact, its actually happened to me.

I wouldn't not, but then again, I'm not a wrestler. These guys do/tell far worse to each other on a regular basis in my opinion. It's one of those things that look out of place in wrestling.

[Hive]

That Punk-Cena match was all kinds of awesome. It had everything a big PPV match is expected to have: drama, excitement, good characters, lots of quality in the ring and an ending that got people up from their seats. I'm no fan of Cena, but my hat is off to his performance last night. Best match I've seen from him.

[ZMAN]

I wonder if they’ll have Daniel Bryan explain on SD why he didn’t cash in his briefcase here because it was the perfect time.

That is pretty fckin interesting, but my guess is Bryan wants a real match since real pro wrestling is his thing. I think him cashing it in and losing to Christian would not look that bad as long as it's not a sneak attack that ends with him losing. On SD have Bryan explain that he's challenging Christian straight up instead of catching him while he's down. Make the match close and lengthy. At the end, Orton botches an interference, and Christian manages to outsmart them all somehow. Could lead to a Bryan-Orton uppermidcard feud to end the summer while Christian gets in a few defences in preparation for Christian-Orton part 2.

[brashleyholland]

I’m impressed the writer of that sign spelt Muay Thai correctly.



You mean it's not Mooey Tye? Damn, all these years..I'm handing in my Mongkhon. :-D

[Mr Rager]

A very trivial point in the wake of what happened last night, but I wonder if Punk stays true to his vow to change the appearance of the WWE Championship.

[20LEgend]

I really hope so.

[Astil]

I know your on the road a lot, but man stock up for your fridge.



Probable beer, he goes to bars but as we know he doesn't drink. he probable has it for guest.

bonus: he shops at target.

Is that a CM punk cup?

Looks like Canada Dry Ginger Ale to me? :confused:

[Jaysin]

Looks like Canada Dry Ginger Ale to me? :confused:

20LEgend said UNDER the Pepsi. If you look in the bottom right drawer there's what appears to be bottles :p

[BloodyKnuckles]

A very trivial point in the wake of what happened last night, but I wonder if Punk stays true to his vow to change the appearance of the WWE Championship.

I hope they go back to the old title that JBL had, the one right before the spinner title. That's my personal favorite belt they've ever had.

[Jaysin]

I hope they go back to the old title that JBL had, the one right before the spinner title. That's my personal favorite belt they've ever had.

The Undisputed?

[Remianen]

Guys, also. We finally got we wanted. Excitement, right champions, great matches. I just woke up at 14.30PM :D


Buy stuff. Order stuff. Watch stuff. Buy DVD's (especially MitB, shirts, watch RAW & SD! if you're at the States, order PPV's. Let's make it clear this is what we want.

I dunno FIN. This was ONE event. If they basically "press rewind" on the whole thing and blow it, that message will be lost. I'm taking a wait & see approach (though I will buy the new CM Punk shirt design that comes out this week). One event isn't enough to get me to ante up given the history involved. How they follow up on this is going to determine a lot (at least for me).

Pepsi :D

What are those cans and bottle of in the bottom of the fridge below the pepsies?

Looks like Canada Dry Ginger Ale to me? :confused:

Exactly. Looks like a can of ginger ale and a can of Dr. Pepper/Mr. Pibb/or Dr. Brown's Cherry soda (they all have that burgundy motif).

And WC, I was just givin' you the business. I think the word you're looking for might be something like 'crackpot', 'crusader', 'activist', or something similar.

[Jaysin]

Like I posted to Astil, 20LEgend said UNDER the Pepsi. You cannot tell what those bottles are :p

I do not think they're beer though.

[BloodyKnuckles]

The Undisputed?

Yeah, I think they used it as the Undisputed too. Eventually they just dropped the Unidsputed though, and it became the WWE title:

http://slamzilla.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/10133.jpg

[1234]

CM Punks first title defence set (from twitter):

@CMPunk On my couch. About to put the title on the line against Piston Honda.

Got to love Punk.

[djthefunkchris]

I thought that was a "Real" person at first, google'd and seen it's a nintendo character.

Someone make a Piston Honda character for one of the WWE games, and have punk defend the title on it, put it on youtube, and see what reactions you get, lol.

Have to be quick though, or your going to lose the momentum....

[Fantabulous]

It gets worse for Sin Cara; not only was a failed steroid test, that he actually flunked in June, but he might not even be brought back.

Given the brouhaha given to Cara as the first new signing attributed to Triple H, I can see them washing their hands of him for failing a drug test so soon into his tenure. If they do bring him back, I would not be shocked for them to try and get him to quit over this, ie: push for him to unmask.

I wonder what this means for Averno.

[djthefunkchris]

I dunno FIN. This was ONE event. If they basically "press rewind" on the whole thing and blow it, that message will be lost. I'm taking a wait & see approach (though I will buy the new CM Punk shirt design that comes out this week). One event isn't enough to get me to ante up given the history involved. How they follow up on this is going to determine a lot (at least for me).

An event everyone thought they would flop. It doesn't even really matter that much where they go from here.

You know as well as anyone that money talks. Doing what Fin said to do, then all the sudden not doing it if they mess it up from here on out, speaks more then any words.

Just saying, I'm sure there is a Fin on many websights saying the same thing, and there is ultimately going to be a Remi as well, saying something like you did. People are influenced by both (you make them think to hard).

So it eventually evens out, and says absolutely nothing to WWE, in hindsight (after it's over).

[Wrestling Century]

And WC, I was just givin' you the business. I think the word you're looking for might be something like 'crackpot', 'crusader', 'activist', or something similar.

Yeah, those are the words I was trying to find last night! I just woke up, but I can remember last night thinking about what word I was trying to type "I want people to think that I'm.....not bad? No, it has something to do with....morals and annoying people". :p

Anyways, I am more than elated to have Daniel Bryan and Del Rio win MitB, plus Christian and CM Punk won the two World titles! It is everything an IWC fan can ask for!

[Fantabulous]

I wonder what odds I gave for Punk winning clean and walking out with the title? My post where I gave odds for various finishes seems to have vanished.

[FINisher]

OMG. I just realised something.

Guys. Guys.

Listen.

..

Remember the contract signing? Vince left the ring, and after Cena punched CM Punk, Punk grabbed the contract from Vince, went to the ramp and ripped the contract into pieces.

Here's the thing. I think he grabbed Vince's contract and not his own but he didn't realise it. There were two contracts there weren't there? I thought it was odd how Vince suddenly left the ring and stood on the ringside. He was holding his contract, surely, and not Punk's designed contract, right? I'm now playing that RAW and checking this.


So Vince has CM Punk's contract with CM Punk's name IN IT already as he stated. Meaning that Vince will sign the new, CM Punk's contract in order to keep Punk in the WWE as long as he's the champion.



If this is what happens tonight on RAW.

Worship me. :D

[Remianen]

An event everyone thought they would flop. It doesn't even really matter that much where they go from here.

You know as well as anyone that money talks. Doing what Fin said to do, then all the sudden not doing it if they mess it up from here on out, speaks more then any words.

I have never been risk averse in my life (my stock from Pandora's IPO says hi :p) but the question becomes, am I more comfortable with YOUR money being at risk or MINE? I guess the answer's easy when I put it like that. I already had his Uprising T-shirt (it was a gift. For some reason, when non-wrestling fans find out you're a wrestling fan, they automatically assume you're a WWE fan.) and I heard tell that they're coming out with a new design for Punk, so I'll actually buy that one. However, with a month left before the next PPV, I don't think me pouring cash into the marketing machine is going to accomplish what you think it will. For one thing, it'll be more than a month before that uptick in business is attributed to this event (that's how corporate finance works, after all). Remember, this is a marathon not a sprint. Strong champions aren't defined by selling well once. They're defined by selling well all the time. So if you're going to buy in, you need to be prepared to do so for as long as Punk is centrally featured (otherwise, it'll be chalked up to a one-time anomaly. "Right place, right time, right people" kinda thing).

Again, I'm not saying FIN is wrong. I'm just a lot more jaded than he is. :)

[tommyb]

I think 'just one event' has to be enough to get people spending money if we want WWE to follow up. WWE ain't broke - from a money making perspective. Contrary to some IWC fans' opinion that PPV buy rates and TV ratings being down means losses, they actually make more money from other sponsors and merchandise (which is, I believe, up). Therefore, they aren't going to change their tune for long unless they see instant results.

I like the fact that Daniel Bryan didn't cash in his MitB. He definitely hasn't been built up for a world title reign yet, and needs to carry the briefcase for a while to gain some credibility. It can easily be explained: either he was too noble to cash in cheaply, too beaten up after his match/being checked out, or he was worried that with a livid Orton at ringside his cash in could be ruined.

I also don't mind Orton losing it after Christian spitting. It goes along with the commentary assertions that he has anger management issues (and makes him a flawed hero), as well as making him seem unpredictable (keeping his cool for a while, then losing it at a seemingly minor incident) which has been a theme in the past. It is also constant with the suggestion that Christian got inside his head on Smackdown!, and was able to push him over the edge when tensions were already running high during the match.

[ZMAN]

WWE kind of has no choice but to push the hell out of people. HHH, Edge, Taker, HBK are gone. I think Orton and Cena are the only permanent main eventers at the moment. Now is like the best time to step up your game in WWE.

[juggaloninjalee]

Yeah, I think they used it as the Undisputed too. Eventually they just dropped the Unidsputed though, and it became the WWE title:

http://slamzilla.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/10133.jpg

That was my favorite title they ever had. Wish they would bring it back.

As for Piston Honda... he is no match for CM Punk. ;) I mean seriously Little Mac beat him.

[FINisher]

WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1671746#post1671746

My earlier post. Check RAW from 07.11.11, the one that ends with the contract signing that failed. Watch it and keep your eye on the contract AND your eye on Vince when he leaves the ring. The camera's don't show the fallen table and the contract lying under it for several minutes after Vince had left the ring.

ALSO GUYS! Notice Vince's hand gesture in the end, he signs to CM Punk 'sign it' with his hand. It's VINCE's contract that Punk tore. Why would Vince sign to CM Punk to sign his own contract since his name is already in his version of the contract.

/WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)

[1234]

OMG. I just realised something.

Guys. Guys.

Listen.

..

Remember the contract signing? Vince left the ring, and after Cena punched CM Punk, Punk grabbed the contract from Vince, went to the ramp and ripped the contract into pieces.

Here's the thing. I think he grabbed Vince's contract and not his own but he didn't realise it. There were two contracts there weren't there? I thought it was odd how Vince suddenly left the ring and stood on the ringside. He was holding his contract, surely, and not Punk's designed contract, right? I'm now playing that RAW and checking this.


So Vince has CM Punk's contract with CM Punk's name IN IT already as he stated. Meaning that Vince will sign the new, CM Punk's contract in order to keep Punk in the WWE as long as he's the champion.



If this is what happens tonight on RAW.

Worship me. :D

No. Please no. That would be such a rubbish way to go from here. Although if it does happen atleast we get to see Punk kick Vince in the balls and have WWE Ice Cream Bars return, as per Punk's contract.

[tommyb]

No. Please no. That would be such a rubbish way to go from here. Although if it does happen atleast we get to see Punk kick Vince in the balls and have WWE Ice Cream Bars return, as per Punk's contract.

I like it. It would give Vince some credibility back as the big boss and master schemer.

[shawn michaels 82]

Weeellll! WWE delivered! I knew they would. They hald to. But of course, it's too soon to tell this will be hugre or not. They went down the correct road, it's looking good, but let's see where it goes from here. Anyway...nice PPV.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Daniel Bryan winning the SD MitB was a surprise because I didn’t think they saw him on the level of even having a fluke World title win, so I think it’s a reasonable bet to make that Bryan becomes the first MitB winner to cash in and lose. Of course, that’s assuming he keeps the briefcase and they don’t simply have him lose to someone else down the road and he only won it here because they both wanted a surprise and wanted to get people in the mindset of expecting surprises in readiness for what they pull later in the night.

They have like a whole year to build him up ala Edge the first time around. I don't see why people are down on this, it can be a great gimmick for him and helps write his promo work for him. Who knows he could get a huge push after Mania or something and it wouldn't sound so crazy for him to get a title run.

[ZMAN]

I like Fin's idea. Vince is stuck and resorts to signing the contract the Punk drew up. Omg they could make it so that it has all these wacky conditions to it, with Vince pretty much humiliating himself every week just to get his champion back. Vince is golden when it comes to him being in distress, and Punk is great at manipulation.

[BloodyKnuckles]

WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1671746#post1671746

My earlier post. Check RAW from 07.11.11, the one that ends with the contract signing that failed. Watch it and keep your eye on the contract AND your eye on Vince when he leaves the ring. The camera's don't show the fallen table and the contract lying under it for several minutes after Vince had left the ring.

ALSO GUYS! Notice Vince's hand gesture in the end, he signs to CM Punk 'sign it' with his hand. It's VINCE's contract that Punk tore. Why would Vince sign to CM Punk to sign his own contract since his name is already in his version of the contract.

/WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)

Sounds good, I just hope Punk shows up on Raw tonight!

Imagine if he actually puts Punk's face on all the turnbuckles and such! :eek:

[1234]

Sounds good, I just hope Punk shows up on Raw tonight!

Imagine if he actually puts Punk's face on all the turnbuckles and such! :eek:

Punk is scheduled to be on Raw tonight, but for no shows after.

http://www.wwelivetour.com/eventlistings

So either he loses the title tonight or he is going to be storyline taking the title away for a while.

[20LEgend]

WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1671746#post1671746

My earlier post. Check RAW from 07.11.11, the one that ends with the contract signing that failed. Watch it and keep your eye on the contract AND your eye on Vince when he leaves the ring. The camera's don't show the fallen table and the contract lying under it for several minutes after Vince had left the ring.

ALSO GUYS! Notice Vince's hand gesture in the end, he signs to CM Punk 'sign it' with his hand. It's VINCE's contract that Punk tore. Why would Vince sign to CM Punk to sign his own contract since his name is already in his version of the contract.

/WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)

I spotted that and watched it back a few times and I looked as if the contract in the hand was the one CM Punk never signed. But IDK

[ShaunGBD]

Look if they go down that road its kinda stupid, but after hitting a home run last night you earned the benefit of the doubt for at least this storyline

[Tha Black Phenom]

If there's one WWE product I'd support, it's CM Punk: The Movie :D

[Gabbo]

Amazing. The best WWE PPV in years. The crowd were awesome too.

[TribeWarpath]

WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1671746#post1671746

My earlier post. Check RAW from 07.11.11, the one that ends with the contract signing that failed. Watch it and keep your eye on the contract AND your eye on Vince when he leaves the ring. The camera's don't show the fallen table and the contract lying under it for several minutes after Vince had left the ring.

ALSO GUYS! Notice Vince's hand gesture in the end, he signs to CM Punk 'sign it' with his hand. It's VINCE's contract that Punk tore. Why would Vince sign to CM Punk to sign his own contract since his name is already in his version of the contract.

/WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON RAW (FIN's prediction)

I was under the impression Vince's hand gestures were that he didn't sign it yet. Then Punk ripped it up meaning Vince didn't have a chance to sign it.

[MasterJ]

My thing is, is this the beginning of a new era in WWE? An atitude like era but maybe toned done a bit?

[20LEgend]

I don't even think it needs to be an attitude like era, or even a new era for that matter. We just need better than the usual 1 dimensional feuds and more layered one's like this one (for example the sub plot of ADR should be no.1 contender CM is reinstated and then he is RAW MITB and then there is no title.)

I hope this is the start of something, whether it's an era or just good booking / storylines I don't care, but hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

[Teh_Showtime]

Maybe an era of...wait for it... QUALITIY STORYLINES

[denzil85]

Maybe an era of...wait for it... QUALITIY STORYLINES

What are you smoking? Can I have some? ;)

[BloodyKnuckles]

New era talk is premature, but I hope it does mark a change towards a more entertaining product. I had a hard time even watching the 'E around 09-10.

Also, no more spammed World Title runs!

[ShaunGBD]

Looks like Canada Dry Ginger Ale to me? :confused:

No, look at it again, at the wayyyy bottom.

[Jaysin]

No, look at it again, at the wayyyy bottom.

Are my posts invisible to you? I've said that twice already :p

[Adam Ryland]

Can you all please stop talking about what's in the fridge, it's ridiculous even by the standards of this thread.

[PoisonedSuperman]

Can you all please stop talking about what's in the fridge, it's ridiculous even by the standards of this thread.

:cool: what he said

[Jaysin]

FrankieKazarian: The Flux Capacitor is what makes time travel possible. If you STEAL it, u violate the wellness policy and get suspended 30 days. Just sayin.

I lol'd :p

[brashleyholland]

So for the first time since I was about 14 (which was a loooooong time ago) I'm actually genuinely excited/interested in watching Raw tonight to see what happens next. I caught the PPV last night (mainly because I spent the entirety of Sunday sleeping off a particularly epic hangover and was wide awake by 1am) and I'd seen bits of a couple of Raws in recent weeks (I have it on sometimes in the background while I work) so I had a vague idea of what was going on...but dayum, I found it entertaining.

The ladder matches were all cool, but the atmosphere for the main event really took me back. Definitely reminded me why I liked wrestling so much.

Also all this fridge talk has reminded me that I have Mars Ice Cream bars in mine. Raw snacks sorted then.

[OctoberRaven]

FrankieKazarian: The Flux Capacitor is what makes time travel possible. If you STEAL it, u violate the wellness policy and get suspended 30 days. Just sayin.

I lol'd :p

Then he should be suspended for stealing it from Naomichi Marufuji.

Just sayin.

[Jaysin]

Then he should be suspended for stealing it from Naomichi Marufuji.

Just sayin.

I had to look him up, but that Tiger Flowsion move is AWESOME.

[20LEgend]

Cena's twitter: "I have just been 'future endeavored'. Well..if that's how it is I would like to take a moment to publicly apologize to Dwayne 'the Rock Johnson. In an effort to make WM28 as big as possible I tried to expose rock for his flaws. Very childish and immature on my behalf. My comments about the rocks absence were both unprofessional and childish. I am sorry. Rock, I truly wish and still hope in my heart of Hearts that the crazy old man who is the boss reconsiders his totally rash decision. Because chicago was insane last night. And it made me think of what Miami could have been. I guess sometimes u do not know what u have until it is lost."

:D, yeah right :p

[Wallbanger]

Wow - looks like I actually need to watch Raw. May even have to buy a replay of MiTB to see how things went down.

Congrats WWE for generating this kind of buzz.

[Wallbanger]

Cena's twitter: "I have just been 'future endeavored'. Well..if that's how it is I would like to take a moment to publicly apologize to Dwayne 'the Rock Johnson. In an effort to make WM28 as big as possible I tried to expose rock for his flaws. Very childish and immature on my behalf. My comments about the rocks absence were both unprofessional and childish. I am sorry. Rock, I truly wish and still hope in my heart of Hearts that the crazy old man who is the boss reconsiders his totally rash decision. Because chicago was insane last night. And it made me think of what Miami could have been. I guess sometimes u do not know what u have until it is lost."

:D, yeah right :p

That's way more than 140 characters. I'm skeptical. :D:p

[20LEgend]

That's way more than 140 characters. I'm skeptical. :D:p

PWInsider says so

[ShaunGBD]

That's way more than 140 characters. I'm skeptical. :D:p

Can you go over the limit on Twitter? I didn't like it because you can't.

[Jaysin]

Twitlonger allows you to go past the 140 character limit

[brashleyholland]

Can you go over the limit on Twitter? I didn't like it because you can't.

No, but you can do multiple tweets, or use services that link to longer messages. I love how the whole point of twitter was short messages without all the bull, yet the first ting people did was figure out ways around the character limit :-p

[Jaysin]

Cena made multiple tweets.

[20LEgend]

I just search John Cena TNA, and some people are funny. I just saw a tweet saying " Cena will be huge in TNA, he will suptrass Mr. Anderson" and "@WWE don't fire john cena! if you do, think of how tna & roh will use him to overtake toy."

Well the summerslam poster looks silly now.

[Jaysin]

According to Gabe Sapolsky, Punk, Colt, and Ace are at the Phillies/Cubs game. He actually saw them on TV

[liontamer]

No? It never rang. Did it ring live? :eek: Atleast I didn't hear it at all. Also it was announced that the bell did not ring when Punk escaped to the crowd.

I'm not sure if it rang live, it was too loud for punk to hear. That's why I wondered. I know punk kicked him in the head in the ring, so I thought maybe...

But if you say they announced it on TV that it was not, then I'll go with that.

[Astil]

I sadly cannot watch because I am at work, so help me out :)

[20LEgend]

I sadly cannot watch because I am at work, so help me out :)

Will do, Vince just came out... in a pink suit!

[Astil]

Will do, Vince just came out... in a pink suit!

I do not believe you :|

[20LEgend]

I do not believe you :|

And he just called Punk a turd.

He said tonight we crown a new WWE champion, in a 8 man single elimination tournament.

Rey vs. Ziggler
Swagger vs. R Truth
Kofi vs. ADR
A-Ri vs. The Miz.

[Astil]

Well that's disappointing.

[Jaysin]

Miz and ADR are the only two real main eventers in the tournament.

I'd really like Ziggler or Truth to somehow pull out a win in the end though.

[20LEgend]

Well that's disappointing.

Now they're saying Cena thinks he's already been fired they are now quoting his twitter. But they didn't say he was fired. Vince just saud "serious consequences.


Miz vs. A-Ri first

[Astil]

Miz and ADR are the only two real main eventers in the tournament.

I'd really like Ziggler or Truth to somehow pull out a win in the end though.

Rey?

Did he really just glaze over the title being gone?

[Jaysin]

Ya know, after this tournament. The winner can go around as champ for awhile and then when Punk comes back he can throw it in everyone's face that he's the real WWE champ.

[FINisher]

I'm quite sure this will lead to something bigger and RAW will end in something special. I really doubt that they'd crown a new champion. Cena will protest against it.

Vince said tonight's a night to be remembered. Anyways, it's 4AM, I'm going to bed. Last night 7AM, tonight at 4AM, I got work tomorrow. lol.

Watching live stream, jesus christ with the commercials :O The amount of them right after that first angle. Seriously. No wonder Americans are so.. ..

[20LEgend]

I can't see this being "it", there must be more?

[Astil]

I'm quite sure this will lead to something bigger and RAW will end in something special. I really doubt that they'd crown a new champion. Cena will protest against it.

Vince said tonight's a night to be remembered. Anyways, it's 4AM, I'm going to bed. Last night 7AM, tonight at 4AM, I got work tomorrow. lol.

True. Hopefully we have some good matches.

[Jaysin]

Miz beats Alex Riley in a pretty decent match.

The crowd LOVES Miz

[20LEgend]

Miz beat Riley via Skull Crushing Finale

Swagger Truth up next

[Astil]

Miz beats Alex Riley in a pretty decent match.

The crowd LOVES Miz

As do I. As do I.

[Jaysin]

Me too. I have since the Dirt Sheet days.

And have I said lately how much I hate that Summerslam commercial? Cee Lo or whatever his name is? SO IRRITATING

[Mr Rager]

Surely there's not even enough time for this tournament to pan out in one night?

[20LEgend]

Me too. I have since the Dirt Sheet days.

And have I said lately how much I hate that Summerslam commercial? Cee Lo or whatever his name is? SO IRRITATING

You have :D D'Lo Brown > C'Lo Green

[foolinc]

Miz beats Alex Riley in a pretty decent match.

The crowd LOVES Miz

I'm calling it now. The Miz is going to be turned face with this tournament. He's going to win the tournament with the leg injury only to be screwed out of the title by ADR's MITB contract.

[The Shape]

I'm calling it now. The Miz is going to be turned face with this tournament. He's going to win the tournament with the leg injury only to be screwed out of the title by ADR's MITB contract.

If there has ever been a time when turning him would work it is now, let ADR step up, and him fill the void as a test in the brief time Cena is gone. Maybe an angle where Vince tries to adopt him as his new golden boy...he could go with it as a heel or turn on him as a face.

[Jaysin]

Errr...Truth and Thwagger are both heels aren't they?

Let's go TRUTH!

[Jaysin]

Pretty sure Truth was wearing a grill and I'm pretty sure it got knocked out of his mouth...

[Jaysin]

Thank you for letting Truth win <3

[20LEgend]

R Truth wins via roll up

[randomfreeze]

Del Rio appears to have a black person's hand in the match promo for him and Kofi.

[Astil]

So will it be Truth vs. Miz?

[Jaysin]

Truth faces the winner of Rey/Dolph.

Miz faces winner of ADR/Kofi

[Astil]

Truth faces the winner of Rey/Dolph.

Miz faces winner of ADR/Kofi

Thanks

[20LEgend]

Richardooooooooooo Rodriguez!

[20LEgend]

Kofi wins vs. ADR.

Prediction: ADR cashes in at the end of the night

[The Final Countdown]

OK, ADR HAS to be cashing in tonight. No other reason for him to go out in the first round.

[brashleyholland]

Is Rey wearing a KISS mask? Well that's made my night!

[Astil]

So glad Kofi went over ADR. I really think Kofi can be a major player, and getting to the second round over ADR may be the catapult.

Miz vs. Kofi then. Miz has to win that match.

[The Final Countdown]

Summerslam '92 flashback!

God, what a great match that was.

[Astil]

Summerslam '92 flashback!

God, what a great match that was.

Which match?

[20LEgend]

Which match?

Bret vs. British Bulldog

[The Final Countdown]

Which match?
The Davey Boy Smith/Bret Hart match they showed in the flashback.

[20LEgend]

Rey beat Dolph

Didn't expect any of these to win title. Must be The Miz, surely? or Truth followed by a cash in to further conspiracy

[Astil]

Oh. Ok. I don't think we get 'flashbacks' in the states

[Slagaholic]

Eek at the Misterio/Ziggler finish.

[Astil]

Rey beat Dolph

Not surprising.

My Finals pick: Miz over Truth.

[20LEgend]

7 on 7 diva match now.

[Jaysin]

Oh. Ok. I don't think we get 'flashbacks' in the states

Yes we do :p

Whose the girl with the skull and cross bones on her tights?

[Astil]

Yes we do :p

God Melina is awful

I don't T.T

[20LEgend]

Beth Phoenix won it, in like 30 seconds

[Jaysin]

is it just my tv or is there a buzzing sound?

[20LEgend]

I hear no buzz.

This has gone way quick and has been a boring episode so far, hope there is something big at the end. May be too late people will have tuned out IMO

[Astil]

is it just my tv or is there a buzzing sound?

Hybrid dolphin pod?

[20LEgend]

Miz over KK

[20LEgend]

Hybrid dolphin pod?

:D brilliant

[Jaysin]

Not gonna lie...this episode just sucks. It's boring. The workers aren't meshing in the ring and everything looks clunky.

Very blah episode.

[Astil]

Something will have to save it. Y2J?

One show without Cena and it's already no good :p

But honest, I hope something BIG happens to close the show.

[ShaunGBD]

I know, No really promos, nothing really stands out.

[ShaunGBD]

The guy knock on the door and Andy said check your car, crazy

[Astil]

Miz vs. ???

[20LEgend]

Has that move R Truth did, ever finished anyone off?

[20LEgend]

Rey advances to final

[Astil]

Rey advances to final

||!
|:eek:

[ShaunGBD]

Come on miz

[20LEgend]

Vince has come out don't say Miz is injured please. Vince wants a shot :p

No way :(

[ShaunGBD]

Did Vince say WWF champion?

[Astil]

What just happened?

[20LEgend]

What just happened?

Vince postponed the title match, and is now making an announcement.

[Astil]

Vince postponed the title match, and is now making an announcement.

||!
|:eek:

[20LEgend]

Cena is here.

[Astil]

Not fired then I presume.

[20LEgend]

He is cutting a promo about the screwjob attempt and how it affected HBK's reputation

Edit: This crowd sucks

[Astil]

He is cutting a promo about the screwjob attempt and how it affected HBK's reputation

Edit: This crowd sucks

Where is the show?

[Jaysin]

Green Bay

[Astil]

Green Bay

Ah, that's why, they need Mister Kennedy.

[Jaysin]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Cena just threatened to go to TNA!!

[20LEgend]

Just thanked Punk, he said he didn't want to be the guy who screwed CM Punk.

He is saying, he doesn't care, he has challenged Vince to find a new guy to face "Dwayne" at WM28. But he wants his pride so is happy to be fired. He said he loves WWE, Cena says if Cena makes him walk he will do it on someone else's TV show brother.

[MasterJ]

yeah brother

[BloodyKnuckles]

Triple H!?!?

[Jaysin]

Triple H :eek:

[20LEgend]

Triple H Is Here!!!

[The Final Countdown]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Cena just threatened to go to TNA!!
Yeah, was not expecting him to go there. Punk didn't even do that.

[tommyb]

Hhh!

[ShaunGBD]

Wtf

[GhostDogg]

What....the.....

F***??


Umm can someone EXPLAIN what the HELL is going on ?

[Astil]

So this is the something big!

[ShaunGBD]

Vince Is Gonna Be Fired!!!