The Official TNA Discussion Thread

[Hyde Hill]

Any of you guys going to be joining in on the Q and A with Dixie tonight?

The more educated smarks the better.

[LiquidSwords]

I thought about it but if she hasn't listened to the educated smarks lately or before I don't know if she will listen to them now.

[ewanite]

Thing is that most smarks aren't educated. Half of them think that pushing everyone under 25 will cause ratings to double.

[Hyde Hill]

Thing is that most smarks aren't educated. Half of them think that pushing everyone under 25 will cause ratings to double.

Agreed but most of the guys on here are.

[Hyde Hill]

I thought about it but if she hasn't listened to the educated smarks lately or before I don't know if she will listen to them now.

Thing is it is hard to separate them at first glance and the more of us asking questions the more chance we get an answer. For instance why TNA does not release it's ppv buyrates or if TNA is operating in the black etc etc.

[Hyde Hill]

Damn the Q and A isn't interactive and they didn't make clear where you could submit questions qrrrr. Maybe needed to be member of the TNAtion or something.

[Stennick]

Is that like being a member of CeNation?

[Hyde Hill]

Is that like being a member of CeNation?

Lolz. No it's like the WWE Universe. Actually it was the TNA Universe and they where the first to do it but then WWE followed suit and they changed the name. Never became part though.

[Hyde Hill]

She made an reference that a talent they really wanted and pursued multiple years ago because they needed big names has recently contacted TNA if they would be interested and TNA is not sure now.

Jericho anyone?

[Hyde Hill]

The change Dixie tweeted about will be unveiled during the live Impact.

[The Final Countdown]

She made an reference that a talent they really wanted and pursued multiple years ago because they needed big names has recently contacted TNA if they would be interested and TNA is not sure now.

Jericho anyone?
I don't see how it could be Jericho--why would she say TNA is "not sure" if it were him? He'd be a huge addition to TNA, and an absolute must-sign even with their bloated roster.

[Hyde Hill]

I don't see how it could be Jericho--why would she say TNA is "not sure" if it were him? He'd be a huge addition to TNA, and an absolute must-sign even with their bloated roster.

I was paraphrasing. It was more: used to do everything they could to sign him and now let's see the emphasis was on the increase in roster quality. Just watch it and see what you think.

[Stennick]

I doubt its Jericho, I have no idea who else it could even be but why would Jericho want to be a part of TNA after all the things he's said about them on twitter? I know people would say "well of course he's going to say that he's in the WWE" but there are plenty of guys with twitter accounts in the E that don't even mention them yet Jericho takes time out of his day to directly make fun of them. Not too mention he was gone for what two years? And the minute he was truly ready to come back he came back to Vince.

If he's leaving the WWE its because he wants to tour with his band more, do this game hosting thing and in general get away from wrestling. I don't see him wanting to do all this and go to TNA.

If he wanted to wrestle THAT bad he would work something out with Vince. I honestly would be stunned to see Chris Jericho show up in TNA. Its just not Jericho's style he's shown that when he's burnt out he's burnt out and that doesn't mean a quick stop in TNA.

I got no idea who she's talking about but I'd be more stunned if he went to TNA than when Hogan showed up.

[sheepy]

She made an reference that a talent they really wanted and pursued multiple years ago because they needed big names has recently contacted TNA if they would be interested and TNA is not sure now.

Jericho anyone?

Goldberg

[crownsy]

Goldberg

Mickie James

In all seriousness, the way WWE and TNA throw around the term "superstar" and "big names" it could be anyone

I also just don't trust dixie's hype machine anymore. How many times over the last 5 months has she announced a huge surprise that will "change TNA forever!!!!!" on twitter and then brought out something meh at best (ECW retirement club) and then gone "that wasn't it!" when called on it.

She cries wolf to much, no offense to desmond :D

[Hyde Hill]

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/50755/tna-star-lashes-out-via-twitter-says-he-is-moving-on.html?p=1

Seems Nash is moving on. Thanks for all the memories Big Sexy but your time in the spotlight has passed.

[crownsy]

I love Big sexy but really kev?

Twitter: RVD said Jeff hardy and him are rock stars ,in my prime I was selling out 30′000 plus seat domes they can’t draw 1000 on the road. WTF.

no you weren't bud. you were a good big man worker, but the drawing power was always who you were working with. HBK in the WWE and Hogan in WCW being the prime examples.

I would honestly not pay to see Nash wrestle some midcarder in his prime. I would pay any amount of money to watch Hogan, micheals, flair, brett, angle go with anyone ect in thier prime.

you wern't the draw man, you were the accessory, the imposing big man to the ME guys stable/fued.

Awesome guy, but wayyy up their on the delusional scale.

[Hyde Hill]

Alcohol + Not getting your contract renewed + twitter = bad combo.

[justtxyank]

I love Big sexy but really kev?



no you weren't bud. you were a good big man worker, but the drawing power was always who you were working with. HBK in the WWE and Hogan in WCW being the prime examples.

I would honestly not pay to see Nash wrestle some midcarder in his prime. I would pay any amount of money to watch Hogan, micheals, flair, brett, angle go with anyone ect in thier prime.

you wern't the draw man, you were the accessory, the imposing big man to the ME guys stable/fued.

Awesome guy, but wayyy up their on the delusional scale.

Not true. His run as Diesel was big time. I also give him and Hall a lot of credit for WCW 96-98. Fans were paying to watch both of those guys. Maybe you personally weren't, but a lot of people were.

[dvdWarrior]

Not true. His run as Diesel was big time. I also give him and Hall a lot of credit for WCW 96-98. Fans were paying to watch both of those guys. Maybe you personally weren't, but a lot of people were.

Kevin Nash, (along with Scott Hall and Shawn Michaels), were ranked very highly among my favorite wrestlers in 1996, so I was paying to watch them.

:o

[PeterHilton]

Not true. His run as Diesel was big time. I also give him and Hall a lot of credit for WCW 96-98. Fans were paying to watch both of those guys. Maybe you personally weren't, but a lot of people were.

His run as Diesel is considered one of the lowest points from a revenue perspective in WWF history.

He and Hall were great...but that was also the shock of two WWF guys showing up on WCW TV. A lot of it was the booking.

I do admit that when Nash was getting a pseudo face run as the guy who's finisher was banned and the leader of the Wolfpack, he was insanely over. He's a star...but nowhere near the level of star he claims to be.

[Stennick]

I love Big sexy but really kev?

no you weren't bud. you were a good big man worker, but the drawing power was always who you were working with. HBK in the WWE and Hogan in WCW being the prime examples.

you wern't the draw man, you were the accessory, the imposing big man to the ME guys stable/fued.

Awesome guy, but wayyy up their on the delusional scale.

You to have to realize that he wasn't claiming to be the biggest star in the business but he's not delusional. I'm not sure how old you are or if you remember the start of the nWo so let me give you some numbers. First understand that selling out 15,000 and 30,000 arenas was a nightly occurance during Nash's nWo run with WCW. You can't credit Hogan for the nWo you have to credit Hall and Nash. Without Nash and Hall, Hogan's turn is completely different and might not have worked. Hall and Nash where in WCW for two months before Hogan joined the nWo.

Scott Hall debuted in WCW on May 27th, 1996 so let me give you some numbers.

WWF RAW May 6th 4.1
WWF RAW May 13th 3.5
WCW Nitro May 6th 1.9
WCW Nitro May 13th 2.3

So before Nash showed up RAW was beating Nitro by as much as 2.2 in the ratings.

Now lets look at what happens after Kevin Nash shows up (3 weeks later).

RAW 2.7, 2.3, 2.7
Nitro 3.4, 3.3, 3.5

Those are what the ratings look like the next three weeks after Nash shows up. So not only did he bring WCW's ratings up by as much as 1.6 (nearly doubling their previous ratings). He also caused a drop of as much as 2.2 in RAW's rating.

For the record RAW would not beat Nitro in the ratings for a single week after Kevin Nash's debut that year. Not on week.

Was all of this Nash? No but as I said the first two months of it was ATLEAST 50% Nash since there was no Hogan and those first two months I just showed you Nash killed them in the ratings.

To say this guy wasn't at the least the second biggest heel in the company during the nWo's time period is pretty silly. Nash WAS a draw, and people did pay to see him.

There are a lot of lies in pro wrestling and a lot of exaggerations but Bash at the Beach 96 was the bigggest pay per view they had that year until Starrcade (their biggest show of the year and that one was their biggest one ever). Who do you think main evented Bash at the Beach 96 which by the way was a 30,000 arena? Who do you think was the focus of those first two months of Nitro while he was selling out 15,000 arenas?

Nash was a draw, he wasn't a world champion but you can't look at who the world champion is and say "that guy was the draw". Remember when the nWo was happening The Giant was the World Champion, do you really think The Giant was pulling in ratings for Nitro?

Nash was a draw and in 1996-98 he was one of the biggest draws in this business. Did he do it alone? No but I don't care if you're name is Steve Austin, The Rock, Ric Flair, nobody in this business makes money by themselves and neither did Nash but the fact that he was a part of it, the fact that him and his storyline which by the way he had a ton of input in turned WCW around. Remember people crying (he has too much power, creative control, etc.). Well if you're going to bash the guy (not saying you are) for doing basically whatever he wants then you need to give him credit for some of the nWo storyline since if thats the case then he had a lot to do with that as well.

Nash is right he's put more butts in seats in a single night (30,000) and popped bigger buyrates than either of those guys have ever done as main eventers.

I'm not saying Kevin Nash is a big star like Hogan, Rock, etc. but he's a WAY bigger star than Hardy or RVD ever were and most likely ever will be.

[PeterHilton]

I'm not saying Kevin Nash is a big star like Hogan, Rock, etc. but he's a WAY bigger star than Hardy or RVD ever were and most likely ever will be.

That's totally true

[Stennick]

And to the best of my knowledge thats all he was saying THIS time is that RVD was going around talking like him and Hardy are rock stars and Nash found that laughable saying they can't even sell out the Impact Zone (I know its free and packed it was a figure of speech on his behalf).

[TDubRaiders]

I absolutely agree with you Stennick. I wasn't a huge Diesel fan but the second he switched to WCW I was hooked. I stopped watching WWE altogether when him and Hall came over to WCW. WCW was absolutely huge after he came over. It was pretty much the last BIG and I mean BIG surprise in wrestling. Kurt Angle was a big surprise but hasn't nearly done anything close to resembling what Nash helped WCW do. RVD is a joke to me who thinks because he got one big push in WWE near the end of his time there he's some type of rock star. Maybe in TNA he might be because they probably paid him a lot but he really hasn't done much to help ratings.

Nash def helped WCW kill WWE in the ratings his first few months. I'm a huge Nash fan no so much in ring but could def see him as an authority figure at some point on in the broadcast booth.

[TheEffect]

Most likely I think it is Mickie James.
Seems an easy bet.

[Stennick]

Yeah my money would be on Mickie James she's about the only "big" star and I use that term loosely that it could be.

Goldberg is all but a lock for a HOF induction in the WWE this year and even talk of a match not too mention he's got three television shows on the air right now.

Jericho's certainly not coming to TNA

and the only other star that they could have "tried to get" is Mickie.

BTW when are the WGTT's 90 day no compete clause up? I'm shocked they haven't showed up in TNA and what about Helms with Hardy, Moore both there I figured he'd be there in no time bloated roster or not

[Hyde Hill]

Most likely I think it is Mickie James.
Seems an easy bet.

Nah as I don't think they would have pursued her to such a level before and it sounded like it was someone who had not been in TNA before and would ad a big name. James is neither a big name and she is a TNA original. Benjamin is a safer bet if it's not Jericho imho. Remember the period she is talking about is probably the one before or around Angle's début. With the loss of Kong and Kim you would think they would be more interested bringing in James now then they where before.

[Hyde Hill]

Oh and yeah Nash drew like a mofo. Hardy might claim to drawing similar numbers but not for the same longevity and is more a merch seller then ticket buy draw. RVD is a draw but also not on the same level as Nash. Thing is I don't think RVD meant any disrespect by his comments just that he and Hardy where stars and maybe some of the TNA originals where not or where past their prime. It really depends on the way you interpret his statement.

Again thanks big kev for all the memories and work but your time has passed.

[juggaloninjalee]

All I have to say is... Why does TNA hype their surprises? Doesn't that build up high expectations only to risk the chance of let down? Wouldn't it be better to bring people in by surprise so that the fans get excited? Then they tell their friends, "OMG did you watch Impact? Kurt Angle showed up to an open challenge." Something along those lines instead of hyping something for weeks and weeks on end.

[Hyde Hill]

To get people to tune in? But I get your point either hype what is going to happen exactly or keep it a total surprise. Still Dixie said it would be a change not a surprise so not a signing.

My bet is touring (partly) and or live (partly).

On the talent that contacted them I still think Jericho as TNA would let him do his television and music stuff but would make it possible for him to still wrestle.

[PeterHilton]

On the talent that contacted them I still think Jericho as TNA would let him do his television and music stuff but would make it possible for him to still wrestle.

Then you must be high. If Jericho is leaving to pursue music and TV, why in gods name would he wrestle part time for TNA? It's beneath him. The E would put him on more TVs and actually help any career he has outside of the ring.

TNA would not.

If he can work as a part timer for WWE he helps himself.If he leaves for a while, he still maintains a connection with a company that would be worth far more than what TNA could pay him to burn that bridge. Another run...another DVD set..a HOF induction...

he's gonna throw all that away because of the convenience of working 2 days out of the month??? That's ridiculous.

For someone who has NOTHING but wrestling to fall back on, maybe. But Jericho has shown himself capable to find work regardless, so stepping down to work for a glorified indy company makes no sense.

[juggaloninjalee]

To get people to tune in? But I get your point either hype what is going to happen exactly or keep it a total surprise. Still Dixie said it would be a change not a surprise so not a signing.

My bet is touring (partly) and or live (partly).

On the talent that contacted them I still think Jericho as TNA would let him do his television and music stuff but would make it possible for him to still wrestle.

Can TNA afford to pay Y2J? I don't see how they are making any money right now. Obviously I don't know where all their income is coming from or what peoples salaries are.

[Hyde Hill]

Then you must be high. If Jericho is leaving to pursue music and TV, why in gods name would he wrestle part time for TNA? It's beneath him. The E would put him on more TVs and actually help any career he has outside of the ring.

TNA would not.

If he can work as a part timer for WWE he helps himself.If he leaves for a while, he still maintains a connection with a company that would be worth far more than what TNA could pay him to burn that bridge. Another run...another DVD set..a HOF induction...

he's gonna throw all that away because of the convenience of working 2 days out of the month??? That's ridiculous.

For someone who has NOTHING but wrestling to fall back on, maybe. But Jericho has shown himself capable to find work regardless, so stepping down to work for a glorified indy company makes no sense.

Don't forget that the E has a tendency to want to control everything their talent does. Plus they are very very reluctant to give people a lighter schedule.

Edit:

On the burning bridge I don't think that would be the case as other name stars like Hardy and Christian went to TNA and came back no problem.

I do get all your points though but please remember TNA was contacted to see what the options where. It's not like they are already in negotiations etc. Maybe Jericho just wants to find out what TNA could offer.

If it's not Jericho it is probably Benjamin imho.

[Robtallica]

To be fair on nash about his wwf title run in 1995 i really dont think anyone at that time would have pulled in mega money for any company at the time. I mean who could have really made money at summer slam when MABLE! is the challenger and when they put him agaist bret buy where better but not by much mainly due to wrestling as a whole being on a low point in terms of fans watching as a whole. HBK's run didnt do much better after he won at maina in the iron man match. but wwf product at the time was one of the main reason's wwf buy rates and and ratings where in the toilet. And wcw wherent excatly doing much better even with hulk, savage, flair, sting, ect. and it wasnt untill hall and nash jumped ship that wcw took off as the number 1 company in the us so to say nash never drew money is not right.

but i do think it time for nash to step back even as a nash fan, but i think he could still be a good addition to any roster as he can cut an good promo and i enjoyed his role with joe a few years back, hell he make a better colour commentator then what vince has at them moment and his friendship with hunter means a open door back there so i dont think this will be the last we see of big kev

[Hyde Hill]

Can TNA afford to pay Y2J? I don't see how they are making any money right now. Obviously I don't know where all their income is coming from or what peoples salaries are.

Their situation is probably not as dire as some parts of the IWC point out but how well they are actually operating I do not know.

[PeterHilton]

Don't forget that the E has a tendency to want to control everything their talent does. Plus they are very very reluctant to give people a lighter schedule.

Edit:

On the burning bridge I don't think that would be the case as other name stars like Hardy and Christian went to TNA and came back no problem.

I do get all your points though but please remember TNA was contacted to see what the options where. It's not like they are already in negotiations etc. Maybe Jericho just wants to find out what TNA could offer.

If it's not Jericho it is probably Benjamin imho.

It's not Jericho. That's a pipe dream. If Jericho contacted TNA it was a ploy to get leverage and even that I don't believe because Chris has options that are better than wrestling for TNA would be.

[MichiganHero]

Where did Jericho's name come from?

[PeterHilton]

Where did Jericho's name come from?

Hyde :p

[Robtallica]

Where did Jericho's name come from?

he's taking a break from wwe/wrestling so that's the logic behind him being linked

[TheEffect]

Kevin Nash is good in little bursts on with a high flyer who can really get Kev across. His mic skills are also second-to-none.

[MichiganHero]

Hyde :p

Ah. Well. I kinda hope it is Shelton Benjamin. If booked right he could do good in TNA.

he's taking a break from wwe/wrestling so that's the logic behind him being linked

Where did he say this.

[Robtallica]

haas and or benjamin is a better bet the jericho

[Robtallica]

Ah. Well. I kinda hope it is Shelton Benjamin. If booked right he could do good in TNA.



Where did he say this.

the fact fozzy is in the uk for a tour for most of october and his contract is suposed to be coming up points more to him taking a brake then jumping ship

[Hyde Hill]

Haas does not qualify for the big name status. Give me a sec and Ill get a transcript of that part of the Q and A and you can figure out for yourself. Or better yet watch it.

[Robtallica]

Haas does not qualify for the big name status. Give me a sec and Ill get a transcript of that part of the Q and A and you can figure out for yourself. Or better yet watch it.

well the ecw where hyped as big names.

sabu and a few maybe but the f.b.i. arnt big names

[Hyde Hill]

To watch:

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/50743/video-tna-bound-for-glory-kickoff-show.html?p=1

Recap of that part:

Dixie says that there was a talent who they were pursuing a few years ago who they pursued hard. There was a call from that person recently that they might be interested in coming to TNA, but she says that they appreciate that person thinking about them, but she doesn’t think they need him at this time. It is interesting to go from it being important to have ‘bigger’ stars, but now she wouldn’t trade anyone on the roster.


full recap:


http://www.pwinsider.com/article/50751/tna-bound-for-glory-kickoff-special-report-dixie-carter-and-jeremy-borash-talk-about-tna-and-bound-for-glory-socal-val-in-a-bikini-spin-cycle-and-don-west-has-two-huge-deals-for-bound-for-glory.html?p=1

[PeterHilton]

Where did he say this.

He's talked about it quite a bit but here's a recent interview:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/152167/Chris-Jericho-faces-the-music

BEING brutally honest, Chris Jericho has nothing left to achieve in pro-wrestling.

World championships in singles and tag wrestling, thousands of high class matches on many continents, jobbing to Rey Mysterio in China last week... only the inevitable Hall of Fame seat is absent.

With his WWE contract up in a month or two, the multifaceted legend is switching his attention to music once again with feisty rock merchants Fozzy for the biggest UK swing of his career in October.

FT caught up with Jericho for an exclusive chat this week, and he’s not sweating over his wrestling career – he has no need, he tells me.

[Hyde Hill]

well the ecw where hyped as big names.

sabu and a few maybe but the f.b.i. arnt big names

No they where not. Not as big names they where hyped for what they where and Dreamer was a small surprise for slammiversary.

[TheEffect]

Maybe Paul Burchill?
but he dosen't really constitute a "big name"

[Robtallica]

To watch:

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/50743/video-tna-bound-for-glory-kickoff-show.html?p=1

Recap of that part:

Dixie says that there was a talent who they were pursuing a few years ago who they pursued hard. There was a call from that person recently that they might be interested in coming to TNA, but she says that they appreciate that person thinking about them, but she doesn’t think they need him at this time. It is interesting to go from it being important to have ‘bigger’ stars, but now she wouldn’t trade anyone on the roster.


full recap:


http://www.pwinsider.com/article/50751/tna-bound-for-glory-kickoff-special-report-dixie-carter-and-jeremy-borash-talk-about-tna-and-bound-for-glory-socal-val-in-a-bikini-spin-cycle-and-don-west-has-two-huge-deals-for-bound-for-glory.html?p=1

then i'd say its either yet another older guy i.e. goldberg or another ex wwe midcarder. if she dont want benjamin then thats surpising i think he fit well in with the x-div guys and some of there high spot based match's, plus him and aj imo could be a great match

[PeterHilton]

Dixie says that there was a talent who they were pursuing a few years ago who they pursued hard. There was a call from that person recently that they might be interested in coming to TNA, but she says that they appreciate that person thinking about them, but she doesn’t think they need him at this time. It is interesting to go from it being important to have ‘bigger’ stars, but now she wouldn’t trade anyone on the roster.



I don't care how anyone spins it, if that's their response, then there's literally no way on god's green earth it's Jericho because there's no way on god's green earth TNA would tell him 'thanks but no thanks'.

That's crap.

It might actually be someone like Haas.

Because TNA would have to be out of their mind to turn down someone like Chris who is literally a bigger star than anyone they've brought in except Angle, Hogan, or Flair.

Also..she says it's a 'bigger name' not a 'big star' and with Dixie's track record of what she thinks is 'a name' that could be anyone from Mickie James to the midget that used to show up in WCW.

[PeterHilton]

then i'd say its either yet another older guy i.e. goldberg or another ex wwe midcarder. if she dont want benjamin then thats surpising i think he fit well in with the x-div guys and some of there high spot based match's, plus him and aj imo could be a great match

They wouldn't say not to Goldberg. he's not some 'older guy'

He was legitimately one of the biggest stars in the industry and would actually be a decent attraction in the short term.

[Hyde Hill]

Well that recap is actually not 100 percent accurate. I recommend to watch.

[Robtallica]

They wouldn't say not to Goldberg. he's not some 'older guy'

He was legitimately one of the biggest stars in the industry and would actually be a decent attraction in the short term.

yh good point but do tna need another guy who hasnt wrestled full-time in years. is he still in shape to be able to put on a decent match?

[SaySo]

I'm taking a wild guess on the individual....UFC Heavyweight Champion, BROCK LESNAR!!!!

[Hyde Hill]

About 12 minutes in it starts.

[Robtallica]

I'm taking a wild guess on the individual....UFC Heavyweight Champion, BROCK LESNAR!!!!

i dont think she would say no to brock! unless she has really lost the plot

[PeterHilton]

yh good point but do tna need another guy who hasnt wrestled full-time in years. is he still in shape to be able to put on a decent match?

Who cares? He wasn't much of a worker to begin with.

Seriously...on buy rates and merchandise alone, he'd pay for himself 5 times over. Throw in whatever small ratings bump you get and the fact Bill has TV shows, shows up in movies, and is a regular at UFC events, and he'd be totally worth it.

[Hyde Hill]

Depends on his price. I for one feel he is not worth the risk as Goldberg only works if you book him as Goldberg. Didn't we have this discussion a while back when he had that interview with a journalist who falsely claimed Hogan said he had been in talks with him which Goldberg then denied.

[Robtallica]

About 12 minutes in it starts.

just watch and all i can think after that is that's is a guy who only been midcard else where. if tna want viewers then y2j ect.., would be a must signing. take your pick from the ex wwe midcard guys is all i say from that.

[PeterHilton]

I'm taking a wild guess on the individual....UFC Heavyweight Champion, BROCK LESNAR!!!!

Just as likely as Jericho :rolleyes:

[Robtallica]

Who cares? He wasn't much of a worker to begin with.

Seriously...on buy rates and merchandise alone, he'd pay for himself 5 times over. Throw in whatever small ratings bump you get and the fact Bill has TV shows, shows up in movies, and is a regular at UFC events, and he'd be totally worth it.

yh it was a dumb name to think of tbh. my bad. so then its no him then

[PeterHilton]

Depends on his price. I for one feel he is not worth the risk as Goldberg only works if you book him as Goldberg. Didn't we have this discussion a while back when he had that interview with a journalist who falsely claimed Hogan said he had been in talks with him which Goldberg then denied.

We did. And I still think you'd be wrong, especially if Bill ended a short run by putting over one of the young 'monster' on the roster like Joe or Morgan.

[PeterHilton]

Because..as much as 'smart' fans would hate to admit it, if you stuck Hogan vs Goldberg, or Hogan vs Angle on a PPV, it would do much bigger numbers than anything TNA could do at the moment.

[Stennick]

I agree its got to be Haas, Mickie James, someone like that.

Its someone that hasn't been employed with the WWE for atleast a few months and maybe longer.

And who really knows for all we know its Dixie being for lack of a better term not honest. Maybe there is no "name" that she's said no thanks to. Maybe she's using that as a reason that people like Mickie James don't want to be in the company. Dixie can say "remember my tweet about a name that we said no thanks to...." and leave it at that. I'm not saying she's doing that but its possible.

I for one am interesting in this TNA changing even forever. I'm guessing the forever change is them going live every week. Thats the only thing I can think of that would be a big change compared to what their doing now that seems even the least bit credible and wouldn't be just a "really, you waited six months to tell us that" kind of thing. It would make sense as you don't want to announce it too early given that the network may change their mind, and its something that would have been negotiated months ago.

[Robtallica]

Because..as much as 'smart' fans would hate to admit it, if you stuck Hogan vs Goldberg, or Hogan vs Angle on a PPV, it would do much bigger numbers than anything TNA could do at the moment.

id pay to see goldberg vs angle

[Hyde Hill]

Thing with golberg is what do you do with him? If ,and that is a big if, TNA signs him he probably will be on a light schedule. In order to be an attraction he needs to be Goldberg eg a very dominant wrestler. And then he needs to lose to someone. Once that is done you need to a) follow up on the one that won and b) either release him or build him up again. Also age is a big factor in that he doesn't have any long term value and while Goldberg is still a big name TNA now has enough big names from the past and if Jeff comes back present as well. So for a short run with him beating other old guys and then having a high profile loss to say Morgan, sure why not depending on the cost. Otherwise don't bother.

Quote from me looked it up with the search function. We actually agree on Goldberg Peter just I added that it depended on the cost and the booking.

[SaySo]

Is it a coincidence that a new company was suppose to open in Florida around October of this year but was delayed until Jan (4th?) 2011? What if "they" was this new company...name-change? Now financially backed by Spike TV, Panda Energy, and Wilpon?

[Hyde Hill]

just watch and all i can think after that is that's is a guy who only been midcard else where. if tna want viewers then y2j ect.., would be a must signing. take your pick from the ex wwe midcard guys is all i say from that.

Yeah just re-watched it a couple of times and My mind has changed more towards Benjamin then Jericho. Still not wholly ruling out that that is who she meant or intended to mean (eg spinning) but Benjamin seems a lot more likely. I just connected: wanted desperately, recently contacted, big star. And thought Jericho!

Kinda blocked the no thanks comment or heard it wrong. As Jericho would be a no brainer YES!

Still IF and that is a big if he ever signs with TNA within 3 years I will remember this Peter hehe.

[Hyde Hill]

Is it a coincidence that a new company was suppose to open in Florida around October of this year but was delayed until Jan (4th?) 2011? What if "they" was this new company...name-change? Now financially backed by Spike TV, Panda Energy, and Wilpon?

Don't think so because why get a new talent relations and manager guy or sign guys like Waltman and Vader.

[PeterHilton]

id pay to see goldberg vs angle

that's what I meant, not Hogan vs Angle.

Is it a coincidence that a new company was suppose to open in Florida around October of this year but was delayed until Jan (4th?) 2011? What if "they" was this new company...name-change? Now financially backed by Spike TV, Panda Energy, and Wilpon?

Yeah its a coincidence


Still IF and that is a big if he ever signs with TNA within 3 years I will remember this Peter hehe.

Yeah...that's fair. TNA would have to grow a bit in order for Jericho to be a realistic signing. Never say never...but if Chris really walks away from the E in a few months, it won't be to head to TNA.

In 2014...maybe..who knows?

[Hyde Hill]

I agree its got to be Haas, Mickie James, someone like that.

Its someone that hasn't been employed with the WWE for atleast a few months and maybe longer.

And who really knows for all we know its Dixie being for lack of a better term not honest. Maybe there is no "name" that she's said no thanks to. Maybe she's using that as a reason that people like Mickie James don't want to be in the company. Dixie can say "remember my tweet about a name that we said no thanks to...." and leave it at that. I'm not saying she's doing that but its possible.

I for one am interesting in this TNA changing even forever. I'm guessing the forever change is them going live every week. Thats the only thing I can think of that would be a big change compared to what their doing now that seems even the least bit credible and wouldn't be just a "really, you waited six months to tell us that" kind of thing. It would make sense as you don't want to announce it too early given that the network may change their mind, and its something that would have been negotiated months ago.

Aye either that or going on tour.

[Stennick]

Yeah I don't see how this would help them at all by going that route. Why become a "new" company. You would be throwing away whatever little value the name TNA has for something brand new.

In pro wrestling today its not individual but brands that sell. As much as I hate to say it TNA is more of a "brand" at this point especially with Hogan and Bischoff doing the media rounds than some new upstart thing.

Really its not like Panda needs partners. I don't know how much money their willing to sink into this thing but their a billion dollar company and if they truly wanted to they could spent ten times what their spending on TNA. At this point the only thing you could use more money for is more marketing and TNA hasn't shown me they know what to do with the marketing budget they have.

[Robtallica]

they only way i could see brock doing anything with tna is if heyman is put in charge other then that i dont see him walking away from ufc while he still is the top man in the heavyweight div.

heymen being the one behind abyss and using him to destroy his own creations (the ecw crew) would be intresting but unlikely.

im surpised no has said shane-o yet. hell of away to piss daddy off lol

[SaySo]

I thought about Shane McMahon as well. Maybe Shane O-Mac offered to purchase TNA back then but Dixie Carter said "no thanks." (kayfabe) But things change since Shane O-Mac isn't employed by the Dubya Dubya E.

[Stennick]

Things change but Shane just took over as the CEO of China Broadband Inc. and I seriously doubt he would all of the sudden just decide to buy TNA or be involved in them. If he did that it would be his way of disowning his father.

There is a bigger chance of the entire WWE roster showing up in TNA on the same night than there is of Shane McMahon having something to do with TNA.

[Robtallica]

Things change but Shane just took over as the CEO of China Broadband Inc. and I seriously doubt he would all of the sudden just decide to buy TNA or be involved in them. If he did that it would be his way of disowning his father.

There is a bigger chance of the entire WWE roster showing up in TNA on the same night than there is of Shane McMahon having something to do with TNA.

it was ment as a joke lol. i thought a big part of the reason he left wwe was because he didnt have the same passion as other memebers of his family for wrestling and wanted to do somthing else

[Stennick]

I think its believed and who really knows that Stephanie and Paul are the heirs to the WWE throne and with him turning 40 this year and his father well into his 60's its only a time before thats made official.

It may be a bit awkward to be hanging around the company you've been a part of since birth, a company that you're the third generation male to have it be your livelihood and then to be 'shoved' out of power so to speak.

He's just saving himself some awkwardness/embarrassment and most likely as you said wanting to do something else with his life.

[Moe Hunter]

Can TNA afford to pay Y2J?
I DON'T KNOW!?!?! And this shirt is too tight!

It might actually be someone like Haas.
It would make sese - a few years ago he was out of the company but fairly usable as he's clearly a talent but was getting messed around in storylines with Rico, then forgotten about. I think he has more value now, since Benjamin's also out of a gig, but I can see why they wouldn't want to take on more people at this stage.

[sabataged]

Wouldn't it be Carlito she is talkign about? His contract ended a few years ago and every one said he was going to leave, but all of the sudden he-resigned.

[PeterHilton]

Wouldn't it be Carlito she is talkign about? His contract ended a few years ago and every one said he was going to leave, but all of the sudden he-resigned.

actually not a bad possibility

[Hyde Hill]

Wouldn't it be Carlito she is talkign about? His contract ended a few years ago and every one said he was going to leave, but all of the sudden he-resigned.

Good one and could be. Looking back let's do the ods game again lol. Yeah I wanna keep ahead of the E thread in posts lol.

Carlito: 45
Shelton: 40
James : 10
Jericho: 2.5
Other: 2.5

Not that it really matters as TNA where only contacted and where not extremely interested.

[Hyde Hill]

Looking back I reread some of the arguments about RVD and Hardy not coming in or in Hardy's case more then a one show as well. That was fun. Although I give Jericho coming in less chance then I did them at that time.

[Robtallica]

Wouldn't it be Carlito she is talkign about? His contract ended a few years ago and every one said he was going to leave, but all of the sudden he-resigned.

good shout. and he do'se have some what of a bad rep depending on who you listen to which explains why they may not be keen on bringing him in

[PeterHilton]

Looking back I reread some of the arguments about RVD and Hardy not coming in or in Hardy's case more then a one show as well. That was fun. Although I give Jericho coming in less chance then I did them at that time.

To be fair, RVD didn't come in until weeks after Hogan showed up and TNA popped a few decent TV ratings..it's like he was biding his time

I'm still stunned by Hardy's decision. That dude must really love drugs.

[Robtallica]

Good one and could be. Looking back let's do the ods game again lol. Yeah I wanna keep ahead of the E thread in posts lol.

Carlito: 45
Shelton: 40
James : 10
Jericho: 2.5
Other: 2.5

Not that it really matters as TNA where only contacted and where not extremely interested.

im sure dixie and mickie have a good relationship due to her past post on twitter so if mickie wanted in im sure dixie would hire her and she is one of the best known female free agents barring trish and lita.

jericho its not coz lets face jericho would be a no brian signing.

shelton would be a good for tna imo. so i dont think its him

so id say its carlito from your list there

[Hyde Hill]

Plus on Micky Dixie approached her and even talked to her directly. So that can't be the reference. Yeah lito it is congrats saba. Don't care about lito either way so meh.

[Stennick]

It still might be Haas, they guy has been let go several times, worked the indies, worked ROH maybe they wanted to bring him in but he went back to the WWE or something. It would make more sense than Shelton. She said they tried to bring him in before. Well Shelton's been with the WWE the entire time and I doubt anybody in TNA management is trying to bring in WWE guys while their in the WWE because lets face it thats wasted time. Their M.O is more a guy gets released and then they bring him in. So Haas makes more sense than Shelton.

Carlito is another possible choice. Its either Carlito or Haas and with her saying she's not interested I'd lean towards Carlito since I think bloated roster and all TWGTT could supply a boost to the tag team division.

[Jaysin]

Seriously, everyone needs to experience a TNA Live Event. I met so many people and Pope was perhaps one of the nicest and genuinely kind people I have ever met.

The only person that was kind of not nice was Robert Roode who just seemed like a grouch, but everyone else was really nice.

Kurt Angle seemed so real too. He actually looked into my eyes and thanked me for coming out. I was in awe of him, and he just wanted me to talk to him like I would a regular person. It was so much fun.

A WWE event has never made me feel this excited about wrestling.

Oh, Don West is a top notch person. Had a few conversations with him tonight and he just seems really cool.

[Stennick]

Don's very awesome, I talked to him several times at Lockdown, I bought my Desmond Wolfe t shirt from him personally. Very cool guy.

[Jaysin]

I got the brown bag special with the new RVD shirt. I bought the new Jeff Hardy shirt, The Pro Wrestling is Real Anderson shirt, Pope sunglasses, a program(which was actually really kick ass), and I bought a Jeff Jarrett acoustic guitar. Its nice and has a laser etching of him in it.

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc344/The_Purging/P9102477.jpg

[sheepy]

Looking at all the names mentioned I really don't see why TNA think they need them.

Matt Morgan could have been and probably could still be the next Goldberg (although his star has fallen badly in the last year). Compare the too and there's really not a great difference between their two skill sets.

Or failing that, why not find the next rookie big thing? That's cheaper and if it works you could end up with as a big a star and then make a big deal about him being homegrown. That's what made Goldberg partly so successful. He was a proper WCW guy and became huge for them but when he went to the WWE (there were other mitigating stupid booking reasons) but he was just another guy.

And continue pushing Pope

[Jaysin]

Morgan has better mic skills, athleticism, and in ring ability than Goldberg ever did.

Saying the two have similar skill sets is just wonky.

[Fantabulous]

Goldberg clicked because had that 'it' that few wrestlers have that you just can't teach and without it you're simply not going to get to that Goldberg-level of connecting with the crowd. And that's not a knock on Morgan, who can talk and is a great athlete. The unfortunate reality is that ability and talent can only take you so far; unless you connect with the crowd, there is only so big you can get. Matt Morgan, for all the talent he does have, has never shown that 'it' factor and he probably never will at this stage of the game.

[TheEffect]

OH! I forgot about Carlito!

[Jaysin]

The ass hole tried to steal my guitar! :p

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs670.snc4/61076_433119320937_670985937_5700462_3446376_n.jpg

[Hyde Hill]

Cool to see. I hope to be going to their Paris France show this year as last year didn't work out once they changed the date.

[Stennick]

So I posted this in the WWE thread I'll post it here as well. PWI just released its top 50 North American Women's Pro Wrestler's. Michelle McCool is number one and Angelina Love is number 2. Heres' the list.

1. Michelle McCool
2. Angelina Love
3. Mercedes Martinez
4. Cheerleader Melissa
5. Eve Torres
6. Madison Rayne
7. Beth Phoenix
8. Mickie James
9. MsChif
10. Maryse
11. Tara
12. Sara Del Rey
13. Gail Kim
14. Awesome Kong
15. Madison Eagles
16. Sarita
17. Alicia Fox
18. Taylor Wilde
19. Daffney
20. Hamada
21. Velvet Sky
22. ODB
23. Nikki Roxx
24. Jillian
25. Portia Perez
26. Kelly Kelly
27. Rain
28. Angel Orsini
29. Natalya
30. Serena Deeb
31. Nicole Matthews
32. Amber O'Neal
33. LuFisto
34. Daizee Haze
35. Allison Danger
36. Layla
37. Kellie Skater
38. Tiffany
39. Jennifer Blake
40. Jazz
41. Melissa Coates
42. Cat Power
43. Malia Hosaka
44. Cherry Bomb
45. April Hunter
46. Jessicka Havok
47. Brittany Force
48. Naomi Night
49. Cindy Rogers
50. Roxie Cotton

[Johnny Fenoli]

Sounds right... Michelle McCool is the Rocky Maivia of our current times...

[Jaysin]

God McCool is so awful. At least they gave Angelina number 2 though...

[Hyde Hill]

Sounds right... Michelle McCool is the Rocky Maivia of our current times...

I assume you are joking. Yes she is the most pushed but she is awful! McTaker takes no1.

[Johnny Fenoli]

I assume you are joking. Yes she is the most pushed but she is awful! McTaker takes no1.

No Hyde... She's OBVIOUSLY the most talented wrestler in the industry, male or female... ;)

[Johnny Fenoli]

God McCool is so awful. At least they gave Angelina number 2 though...

Seriously, Angelina shouldn't be number 2 either.... this list is garbage. She deserves her ranking A LOT more than McCool though.

[SaySo]

PWI had AJ Styles no.1.

Michelle McCool, real talk, no.1 too.

You know that saying in basketball, it gotta be the shoes.

Well here's one for wrestling, it gotta be the finishing move.

[TakerNGN74]

The only reason Michelle McCool is where she is with the company is because she is married to Undertaker and they respect the hell out of him for obvious reasons and as long as Taker remains active she will be around. Otherwise if not for Taker, McCool would have gotten the boot a long time ago in my opinion. This really probably shouldn't be posted in the TNA Thread but since it was brought up that is why I decided to post it here.

[SaySo]

^McCool married fellow wrestler Mark Calaway (The Undertaker) on June 26, 2010 in Houston, Texas.

Tara of TNA was there at the wedding along with other familiar faces.

She's the Triple H now. lol.

[Hyde Hill]

Well the trips of the Diva's and with a lot lot lot lot lot lot lot lot lot lot less talent.

[Jaysin]

Just bought Phenomenal: The Best of AJ Styles for 4 bucks at BuyBacks. So pumped!

[TheEffect]

Just bought Phenomenal: The Best of AJ Styles for 4 bucks at BuyBacks. So pumped!

OMFG! I got Best of Raven for £3 off ebay!

[SaySo]

Source:The Sun

HE HAS been slammed by the likes of Andre The Giant, Undertaker and Big Show in a legendary career, but Hulk Hogan had a more interesting reason for being hospitalised this week.

Hulk suffered excruciating back pain after a completely non-violent, low-impact session of SEASHELL collecting.

Speaking to TMZ, the TNA star said he was picking up the shells with fiancée Jennifer and the constant bending over eventually got the better of him.

The Hulkster, who has had multiple back surgeries in the past, says he must have aggravated his old injuries because the next morning he could "barely move" and had to call an ambulance.

Hulk added that doctors believe he suffered a tear in one of his muscles but they still need to run some further tests to be certain of the extent of the damage.

He is currently recuperating from treatment at a hospital in Clearwater, Florida, and awaiting the results.

It is likely he will take a break from the ring for a short while, which will postpone his planned main event run against former protegee Abyss in TNA.

[Jaysin]

OMFG! I got Best of Raven for £3 off ebay!

This is my second "Best of" from TNA. My first one is the Best of Daniels dvd that I got him to sign.

This AJ dvd really is phenomenal(pun is definitely intended).

My next goal is to get the best of Raven and Abyss dvds

[TheEffect]

Raven one is okay, but half the matches, he loses in:/

[sabataged]

Anybody else goto Wrestlezone? Mark Madden went off on RVD...I can't really stand Mark MAdden but I thought it was pretty funny

[Stennick]

I stopped going to Wrestlezone in like 1999 ha ha, I should check this out.

[cappyboy]

Anybody else goto Wrestlezone? Mark Madden went off on RVD...I can't really stand Mark MAdden but I thought it was pretty funny

Like a guy who once used the broadcast position of Monday Nitro to declare Bruno Sammartino prematurely dead has any room to gripe about anybody else in the wrestling business.

[Stennick]

It was still funny brother Cappy, come on you know it :)

[TDubRaiders]

Was never a huge fan of Madden in WCW but he's dead right about RVD. If was def a funny read and I have enjoyed the last few columns he has done.

[sabataged]

TNA just has so much potential with guys like Styles, Wolfe, Pope, Roode, Morgan, Abyss, and MCMG. I really think if they would just get rid of all the old guys except Flair and Foley. Foley can still be entertaining in the Authority role because he has no problem putting over the other stars. Flair is perfect in the manager role. They need to get rid of EV2.0, Hogan, Bischoff, Jarrett, all of those guys.

[Stennick]

Flair is still the best promo in the company at 61

[sabataged]

Flair is still the best promo in the company at 61


Ya...he's been the best Promo guys in any company for like 30 years...go figure

[TDubRaiders]

TNA just has so much potential with guys like Styles, Wolfe, Pope, Roode, Morgan, Abyss, and MCMG. I really think if they would just get rid of all the old guys except Flair and Foley. Foley can still be entertaining in the Authority role because he has no problem putting over the other stars. Flair is perfect in the manager role. They need to get rid of EV2.0, Hogan, Bischoff, Jarrett, all of those guys.


TNA def has potential with the young guys. They bring in a lot of established veteran guys but when has any veteran done much for any of those guys. Flair has done a damn good job with Fortune. Foley hasn't really been in a program to put anyone over. Nash did a damn good job when TNA did the whole Paparazzi thing it helped put Shelley, Dutt, Aries and shot Lethal up.

Sting hasn't really helped anyone, Hogan hasn't done anything at all. Jarrett could be used to put someone over but he's stuck in that mess of a storyline with Nash and Sting.

The only new guys that have really done good things are Kennedy, Pope, Flair and Angle has put a thousand people over. He put Lethal over a few years ago and lost clean. He wanted to lose clean to Kong in a program and he wanted to work a program with Red which would def boost his career but TNA nixed it.



Edit: Quick add to the angle thing. I don't know if it still is but Lockdown was the most watched TNA PPV I believe and it had Angle vs. Joe as the Main Event and guess what Angle did...Put Joe over even if it was too late and Joe had kind of lost steam.

[Hyde Hill]

Sting put over Abyss and re established AJ as a main eventer last year. Hogan has put over Abyss and Hogan has put over the entire company although he has done some dumb stuff. The EV2 guys are all jobbing thank goodness but can't really put anyone over. Look like it or not Hogan is still a marquee name for mainstream media. As long as they minimize his on screen role he is a benefit to TNA.

Angle yeah Angle is a machine he can make anyone look good and is willing to job to anyone. The three biggest "legends" that never put anyone over where Booker, Steiner and Jarrett.

[cappyboy]

The three biggest "legends" that never put anyone over where Booker, Steiner and Jarrett.

Dude, I'm as big a Jarrett fan as you may ever find. Anyone bigger is either going to have perspective problems or be family. Calling Jeff a "legend" is a very generous usage of the term.

[Jaysin]

Oh, Booker and Scotty never put anyone over? I think Magnus & Doug Williams would like a word with you.

Booker and Scotty both put people over in their TNA runs at various times.

and Jarrett has put over AJ countless times back before AJ was an established TNA star.

[sabataged]

Oh, Booker and Scotty never put anyone over? I think Magnus & Doug Williams would like a word with you.

Booker and Scotty both put people over in their TNA runs at various times.

and Jarrett has put over AJ countless times back before AJ was an established TNA star.


Losing and putting over are different in my opinion. Lose to them are one thing...putting them over is making them into a star

[Hyde Hill]

Booker and Steiner only lost to the BI once and that was in a multi man tag match where Booker was carried out smiling by stretcher and Beer Money where the last eliminated after they had taken out Steiner.

Agreed saba on the difference. With the adage that it is a star by TNA's standards. On Jarrett I was talking perception. The dude can still go but he is seen as being one of the "old" guys "legends" whatever you want to call him. He is not a true legend without the apostrophes. But being a co founder and due to planet Jarrett he is a TNA "legend" so to speak.

[Hyde Hill]

Rumour has it that Micky James will return to TNA on the 10/7 live impact.

http://www.tnasylum.com/2010/09/update-on-mickie-james-and-tna.html#more

As always with wrestling rumour take it with a mountain of salt.

[Moe Hunter]

Sadly though, as much as Sting and Hogan might "put over" Abyss, *getting* him over is pretty much impossible, so they could have spent their resources on better endeavours.

[Tigerkinney]

Sting put over Abyss and re established AJ as a main eventer last year.

Real Estate Steve aka Sting has barely put anyone over since he arrived in TNA. The only one I can recall him losing to cleanly is AJ Styles, and even then I don't think Styles needed the rub all that much to be seen as a main event calibre talent in the eyes of the TNA fanbase.

I can recall Abyss winning the NWA belt from Sting, but in some lame fashion when the belt could be won on a DQ...thus showing that Real Estate Steve wasn't prepared to put the monster over clean on that occasion and I honestly don't recall Abyss being put over clean by the Stinger since.

The worst case of Real Estate Steve's ego was when he had a chance to put over Christopher Daniels as a main event calibre several years back. They worked a short programme which saw Sting dominate Daniels in a few backstage brawls (despite Daniels being the heel) and then jobbing Daniels out clean in a match that lasted about six minutes. For all the great matches Daniels had with the X-Division, getting the rub from Sting would have truly put him over but Steve's ego got in the way. Instead of helping to put Daniels over, the programme pretty much buried him.

Over the years people have talked about Kevin Nash being selfish but Sting has shown himself to be no better in being prepared to give younger talent the rub.

[justtxyank]

I hate when people say that.

Do you know that Sting was asked to put over Christopher Daniels? Do you know that he was asked to put over anyone that he refused to do so?

TNA execs have highly prized Sting as made obvious by the fact that they kept giving him the belt at this late stage in his career and getting him a big contract paid by a third party. You assume that because he wasn't putting over a guy like Christopher Daniels that means he was refusing to do so, but based on booking decisions isn't it just as likely that he was never asked? That the booking team valued Sting much more highly than Christopher Daniels and therefore put Sting over in that feud to keep HIS star protected?

[Fantabulous]

When Abyss beat Sting for the NWA title, he did want to lose clean and asked to, but for whatever reason the booking team declined. I think the Daniels things was more because the program was intended to go longer than it did but for some reason they cut it short and they probably figured they may as well put the babyface over if it's only the one match.

[Tigerkinney]

I hate when people say that.

Do you know that Sting was asked to put over Christopher Daniels? Do you know that he was asked to put over anyone that he refused to do so?

TNA execs have highly prized Sting as made obvious by the fact that they kept giving him the belt at this late stage in his career and getting him a big contract paid by a third party. You assume that because he wasn't putting over a guy like Christopher Daniels that means he was refusing to do so, but based on booking decisions isn't it just as likely that he was never asked? That the booking team valued Sting much more highly than Christopher Daniels and therefore put Sting over in that feud to keep HIS star protected?

The way that Daniels feud panned out just smacked of a big name star protecting his spot and it doesn't matter that it was Daniels, it could have been any other wrestler who had the potential to be molded into a main event star. Had Sting lost that feud, would of his star power have disappeared ? If booked properly, then no....but perhaps it was bookings team fault and maybe I was wrong to directly accuse Sting of being a humungous egomaniac by not putting Daniels over in that feud :D

But the fact is apart from Styles who has he put over when he has been in TNA? I don't think he's the 'good guy' he's been painted to be throughout his career and whilst I don't think he's anywhere Hogan's level of ego, he's not a Kurt Angle or a Chris Jericho either.

[Jaysin]

So the reason London Brawling missed No Surrender is because Wolfe has an undisclosed health issue :(

Hopefully its nothing serious.

[sebsplex]

The way that Daniels feud panned out just smacked of a big name star protecting his spot and it doesn't matter that it was Daniels, it could have been any other wrestler who had the potential to be molded into a main event star. Had Sting lost that feud, would of his star power have disappeared ? If booked properly, then no....but perhaps it was bookings team fault and maybe I was wrong to directly accuse Sting of being a humungous egomaniac by not putting Daniels over in that feud :D

Agreed, it seemed a strange feud from a booking perspective. I can remember Sting knocking Daniels around the Impact! Zone a couple of times and then going over him without any real fuss. Ignoring whether Daniels should have gone over or not, the 'feud' was one-sided and didn't do anything for either man (other I suppose than reinforce that Sting was higher up the card and could comfortably overcome someone on Daniels level), but then why use TV time in something that didn't even expand either character and produced a completely forgetable match? Of course TNA aren't exactly reknowned for their consistant and logical approach to booking all the time, but it felt like a feud being aborted for one reason or another.

And yeah, Sting passed the torch to AJ at Bound For Glory, which made it all the more annoying that AJ's promising run and a homegrown babyface champion was dismissed in order to make him 'lil naitch 2'. Not that some of Flair and AJ's interactions haven't been classic, but it was a rushed and at the time needless tuwn which cheapened the BFG outcome for me, aided by the fact that Sting has completely ignored AJ throughout the whole "why sting why" storyline.

[SaySo]

TNA wrestler Desmond Wolfe is expected to be sidelined for at least a few months due to an undisclosed medical situation.

Powell's POV: Wolfe was tightlipped in the locker room at the TNA Impact tapings last week regarding his medical situation that prevented him and Magnus from working the TNA No Surrender pay-per-view. Wolfe was backstage at the Impact tapings last week, but Magnus was not flown in for the shows. There's no word yet on what the company intends to do with Magnus while Wolfe is sidelined.

Source: pw net

[Stennick]

"Courtesy flush brother" (http://qik.com/video/12461245)

[Comradebot]

"Courtesy flush brother"

My roommate just didn't give one :(

[TheEffect]

TNA wrestler Desmond Wolfe is expected to be sidelined for at least a few months due to an undisclosed medical situation.

Powell's POV: Wolfe was tightlipped in the locker room at the TNA Impact tapings last week regarding his medical situation that prevented him and Magnus from working the TNA No Surrender pay-per-view. Wolfe was backstage at the Impact tapings last week, but Magnus was not flown in for the shows. There's no word yet on what the company intends to do with Magnus while Wolfe is sidelined.

Source: pw net

Well i say Ballocks to that!

[Hyde Hill]

It's bollocks but yeah. Bad news for Wolf. At least all the rumours about firing, bad booking and drugs etc etc where not true (as usual).

[SaySo]

PWTorch has been in contact with individuals on the ground in North Carolina for a legal update on TNA wrestler Jeff Hardy.

The update we can provide is no date is currently set for Hardy's next Superior Court court appearance in Moore County, N.C. following his scheduled appearance on Thursday, September 9.

Hardy's appearance on Thursday was not a trial proceeding, but an administrative court appearance. We have a call in to the District Attorney's office in Moore County seeking further clarification on the next stage in the legal process.

-- Since being indicted on drug possession charges earlier this year, Hardy has been required to appear in-person to show the court that he is stable. Our understanding is the case has been continued several times with Hardy simply having to make an appearance before the court on a regular basis.

-- Hardy was arrested in September 2009 and eventually indicted on the charges of felony and misdemeanor drug possession in January 2010.

According to one individual we spoke to who covers legal proceedings in North Carolina, the reason for the stiff charges was due to previous cases in North Carolina setting precedent for harsh penalties where alleged drug possession and drug trafficking are involved.

Due to Hardy possessing excessive amounts of prescription drugs and steroids at the time of his arrest (262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 Soma prescription pills, and 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids), he was slapped with charges that included felony drug trafficking, felony possession, misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia, and conspiracy to traffic opium.

We will continue to follow the story to provide an update on what's next for Hardy's legal proceeding.

[SaySo]

TNA issued a press release on Wednesday to hype the live edition of TNA Impact that will air on October 7 on Spike TV. The press release states that the main event of the show will be a $100,000 battle royal gauntlet match featuring every wrestler who will compete at the Bound For Glory pay-per-view.

"Bound For Glory 2010’ is TNA's biggest event of the year, and to celebrate we’ve brought every single TNA Superstar competing at the pay-per-view to this live special event on Spike TV," Dixie Carter stated in the press release. “This will be an unforgettable night of action, surprises and some change for TNA.

Powell's POV: Some change? She's been teasing a major change on her Twitter page. I hope this isn't a sign that the big change she's been teasing for weeks won't be as significant as she's made it out to be.

[SaySo]

TNA's TV situation in the U.K., which is their second-largest TV market, is at critical status right now. By the end of the year, Impact could potentially be off the air due to the changing U.K. TV market.

Impact currently airs on Bravo, which is owned by Living TV Group. Sky TV (British Sky Broadcasting) has bought out Living TV Group, with the acquisition reportedly going through yesterday after a government review.

As a result of the acquisition, Sky has stated they will cancel Bravo, which they believe is too similar to their existing variety channel in the market. Sky does not want to run similar programming on side-by-side channels.

Impact would be left without a home when Bravo is canceled. No timetable has been announced on when the changes will be pushed through and become visible to customers, but indications are that it likely wouldn't happen until early 2011.

WWE TV currently airs on Sky's programming channels and there is reportedly an exclusivity agreement between WWE and Sky. It's unlikely TNA would be able to hook up with Sky due to the exclusivity protection.

TNA is reportedly confident they will find a new home for Impact to stay on U.K. TV next year. The importance of having a new TV home in the market is critical ahead of their annual U.K. tour in January headlined by Ric Flair.

We'll continue to monitor this changing situation and Impact's future in the U.K. market.

Update: TNA issued a brief statement in response to the news today on Impact's uncertain TV future.

“Following the acquisition of Virgin Media TV channels (now rebranded as The Living TV Group) by Sky, there has always been the possibility of fundamental changes to those channels, including Bravo. However, we remain confident in TNA’s position due to the outstanding ratings enjoyed in 2010, and our long term contract with the Living TV Group,” TNA executive VP Andy Barton said.

[20LEgend]

I f'n dare them to cancel Bravo. They wouldn't dare, where will I watch Dog... The Bounty Hunter!:rolleyes:

[TheEdgeOfReason]

I wonder where they would end up? I can't think of too many channels that might take them on. Channel 4 possibly? ESPN?

[20LEgend]

I wonder where they would end up? I can't think of too many channels that might take them on. Channel 4 possibly? ESPN?

Channel 4 that would be strange (in a good way) they do need to fill that Big Bro time they have.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

I only though that because they used to show the 'E back in the day. It would be a surprise but I think TNA would probably be a ratings winner if given time.

I can't really think of another channel. I assume Channel One is out of bounds if Sky own it due to the exclusivity agreement. Maybe Dave or G.O.L.D? TNA could actually struggle to get back onto TV.

[eayragt]

Maybe Dave or G.O.L.D? TNA could actually struggle to get back onto TV.

They wont struggle - DAVE would love to have TNA, but could only pay peanuts. If they want any money then it's ESPN or... bust.

[20LEgend]

What's the deal with that Extreme Sports Channel or whatever that show PPV's could they get it

[TheEffect]

i would love it on channel 4, it might also get more views.

[Hyde Hill]

Yeah I was also thinking extreme sports channel. Also depends on their deal with Bravo in case Bravo does get cancelled maybe the contract specifies that Bravo would still have to pay the rest of the contract. Anyway we shall see but given TNA's good ratings they should be able to find a new home. The question will be if they can pay them as much or give them as much exposure.

Damn E with their exclusivity contracts grumble grumble lol.

[Fantabulous]

Impact in the UK will almost certainly go to Extreme Sports with the rest of TNA programming; any other suggestion is either highly unlikely or outright absurd (ie; Channel 4).

As Wolfe, apparently when they did physicals recently they and issues relating to his previous concussions and told him he's on the shelf for at least two months. That's not really a surprise considering some of the reckless head shots he took in ROH; remember his bout at Unified with the repeated headbutts into the ring post?

[Hyde Hill]

Yeah it's been 2 weeks but TNA! And even if Impact doesn't find a new home TNA fans can get BT Vision which also has Impact and ppv. It all really depends on WWE's contract towards exclusivity pertaining the acquisition of extra networks and TNA's deal with Bravo and TNA's ability to find a new home. It will be interesting.

[Hyde Hill]

Just wondering something when talking about drawing power in the broad sense of the word.

A) What made you start watching Impact?

B) What kept you watching Impact?

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?

A) They where showing on Eurosport for a brief time and I hadn't seen wrestling in ages

B) The X Division and tag division.

c and d non applicable.

[Stennick]

A) What made you start watching Impact?
I started watching shortly after their television deal, I had high hopes for the company and thought that with their television deal they could become something big.

B) What kept you watching Impact?
Virtually nothing, I take nearly a year off at a time from watching it. I haven't watched a single episode since the night EV2.0 started up.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?
They will get a hot storyline that I'm interested in and then some how destroy that story to the point that I'm no longer interested in it. They will push a guy to the moon (Matt Morgan) and then forget he exists to push Tommy Dreamer or Rhino for the five hundred time.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?
They will sign somebody new and I'll be interested in what their doing. Or the will be hyping one of their life changing moments they do and I'll tune in. Going two hours, move to Monday nights, Hogan coming in, etc.

[Johnny Fenoli]

So, WHEN, Matt Hardy gets his release... Does TNA sign him, and have him and Jeff form an out of shape version of the Nasty Boys?

[fatallylost]

So, WHEN, Matt Hardy gets his release... Does TNA sign him, and have him and Jeff form an out of shape version of the Nasty Boys?

Dude, harsh. No one can be more out of shape than the Nasty Blobs.

[20LEgend]

A) What made you start watching Impact?
The New Age Outlaws, and Rhino I think, but I think it was just because it was wrestling
B) What kept you watching Impact?
I was a kid who was a wrestling fan and it was wrestling

I do tend to skip through it at time on the net.
C) If applicable why did you stop watching?
Awkward times it was on and strange ordering of stuff on BRAVO
D) If applicable what made you start watching again?
Not on sky (so I can watch it in bed, since my family are usual watching some other ****)

[eayragt]

A) What made you start watching Impact?

First time? It was a real long time ago - back when James Storm's (I think it was him anyway) injury resulted in AJ taking his title shot to win the Championship belt of JJ. Why? I gave it a try, and I really liked the match quality. Then I stopped watching wrestling for ages. Nothing to do with TNA individually.

Then when I moved I had access to TNA wrestling not WWE, and started watching it again as... something to watch.

B) What kept you watching Impact?

Honestly? Because it's on at a time when nothing else is on (I watch it on Saturday morning), so don't go out of my way to watch it, but rather happen to be by a TV when it's on. I miss huge large chunks of it, and remember fondly the weekly PPV days, even though the production levels were dreadful.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?

Lack of matches I care about. Outside when I was really into wrestling the only time where I've made sure a kept watching a show was Velocity back around 2003, which always had at least one great match. It's too much effort sitting through several weeks worth of shows to get to a match I can really care about. Although I watched three of the Guns vs Beer Money matches, and they rocked.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?

see above

[Self]

What made you start watching Impact?
A college buddy, on learning that I used to be a wrestling fan, recommended I check out some "X Division" stuff. Watched some on Youtube, liked it, started watching TNA. This was at the tail end of Team Canada I believe.

What kept you watching Impact?
Two things.
1) Variety. It's different from WWE, and I like as much variety in wrestling as I can get.
2) The wrestlers. I don't respond to 'brand loyalty'. I'll never chant "TNA" or "ECW" or even "Dragon Gate". I support the wrestlers themselves, and am constantly looking out for characters that touch me in my special place. Several TNA dudes do that. MCMG, James Storm, Jeff Hardy etc. I will tune in when they've got something interesting going on.

If applicable why did you stop watching?
I've quit watching numerous times. Mostly due to boredom. Nothing major, just some weeks I don't feel like tuning in, so I don't. Impact tends to get into periods where they steadfastly refuse to give me what I want. It's nobody's fault, I'm just one guy, they shouldn't cater to me specifically, but I'm not going to watch 20 minutes of Abyss if I'm not going to get at least 5 minutes of Chris Sabin in return.

If applicable what made you start watching again?
Usually I'll return to Impact when I hear about a particularly good match. Most recently I returned when Beer Money and MCMG started their series. Further back, I returned for the beginning of the Hogan-Era (I thought with all his 'I love MMA' talk he'd do something interesting). Once, I returned to check out a TNA PPV just because I was up at 1am on a Sunday night and had nothing better to do. It's wrestling, it's there, and occasionally they do something that floats my boat.

Right now I'm not watching TNA (or WWE) because I recently went to a Dragon Gate show that was so unbelievably awesome that I cannot begin to care about any other form of wrestling. I'll read spoilers, but it may be a while before I can actually give enough of a damn to watch Impact.

[justtxyank]

A) What made you start watching Impact? Sting. I didn't watch any of their early stuff.

B) What kept you watching Impact? Nothing. I went in and out watching them.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching? Because it was such low quality production. The music was terrible, camera work was terrible, announcers were terrible...when I watched it I felt like I was a wrestling stereotype. I quit most recently because I think the storylines are bunk.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again? Various things throughout the years. Samoa Joe's run up to and winning of the title and then the feud with Nash and Booker T. Quit watching again after that. Watched intermittently for awhile. Came back most recently for Scott Hall.

[juggaloninjalee]

A) What made you start watching Impact?
They got a tv deal.

B) What kept you watching Impact?
I kinda like Fortune. Love the MCMG getting a push!

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?
They stopped being aired on tv for a bit. I change the channel when the knockouts are on and watch Stan Lee's Superhuman show.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?
They got a tv deal with Spike. I love wrestling. Enjoying Fortune, MCMG, and I they have some other personal favorites of mine.

[TheEffect]

A) What made you start watching Impact? I saw it live on holiday to Florida, it was the episode when AJ married Karen and started that huge feud

B) What kept you watching Impact? No other wrestling on my TV, i haven't got sky. :D

[Jaysin]

A) What made you start watching Impact?
I've been watching since close to the beginning. I started watching when they had the weekly ppvs, but I couldn't order them so I watched the recap shows on the local channel The Cat. I was so enthralled by the in ring action. I saw wrestlers I loved, and fell in love with new wrestlers at the same time.

B) What kept you watching Impact?
Like I said, I've been watching since the beginning. I haven't stopped since. Various things have kept me watching, but mostly its the ring ring product.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?
Haven't stopped

[SaySo]

Anyone who follows wrestlers might have seen it, but for those who don't, and especially those who haven't heard of this yet, Pope D'Angelo Dinero posted a worked shoot on his Twitter page called "Deception" in which he parodies the video Hogan posted earlier this week from his bed in the hospital where he said "The doctors have been pumping me all full of crap, much like I have been TNA,".

Video link is here: http://qik.com/video/12461245

[Hyde Hill]

So it seems even stronger that Matt Hardy is TNA bound from his twitter comments. Thoughts? As I think I posted before I don't like it.

[Lo-Drew]

A) What made you start watching Impact?
Around Against All Odds 2005. I instantly got hook after watching Daniels VS Styles on IMPACT.

B) What kept you watching Impact?
Samoa Joe cause he was one of my favorite ROH workers plus the X-Division as a whole. Monty Brown too because I think he had huge potential. Kurt Angle because he one of the greatest wrestlers ever. The Motor City Machines Guns, enough said. Pope's pretty good also.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?
Bad storylines, not elevating the X-Division to more important or stock rising feuds. Joe not winning the belt at Bound for Glory 2006 cause Joe was undefeated and BFG would have been a big deal if Joe goes over Jarrett for the belt in the main event.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?
Nothing. Haven't watched since AJ became Ric Flair 2.0

[SaySo]

Source: PWTorch.com

The official TNA Impact rating for last night's show was a 1.12 rating. It was up from a 1.04 rating two weeks ago on September 2.

Impact was essentially flat compared to the ten-week average, which was a 1.10 rating from July 8 to Sept. 2. Impact peaked for the summer on July 29 with a 1.22 rating.

As we detailed in our previous report on last night's ratings, Impact's key male demographic ratings were essentially flat with previous episodes. The key to the ratings increase was Impact scoring a 1.25 rating among males 12-17, which was the highest since July 15.

Since returning to Thursday nights on May 13, Impact has averaged a 0.69 rating among males 18-34. Also since May 13, Impact has averaged a 0.78 rating among males 18-49.

Spike TV has three other franchise programs that are delivering larger audiences among adult men, which is the demographic Spike is most concerned with.

UFC/Ultimate Fighter - delivers anywhere from a 1.80 to a 2.10 rating among m18-34 & m18-49.

1000 Ways to Die - delivers anywhere from a 1.00 to a 1.10 rating rating among m18-34 & m18-49.

Deadliest Warrior - delivers anywhere from a 1.00 to a 1.50 rating among m18-34 & m18-49.

[SaySo]

So it seems even stronger that Matt Hardy is TNA bound from his twitter comments. Thoughts? As I think I posted before I don't like it.

He can't be worse than Tommy Dreamer. If he cuts the tummy, he'll do fine. Just put a shirt on like the sandman.

Here are Paul London thoughts on Matt Hardy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjWbw3G9coI&feature=player_embedded

[Hyde Hill]

EV2 as a group is more of a draw then Matt on his own imho. He is only a draw as a tag team or a midcard jobber as the E uses him imho. Matt is just played out and his window of opportunity has passed imho.

BTW Sayso source for the ratings? It's just good netiquette to mention it.

[Hyde Hill]

Also like that the BFG main event will be the three way, have some reservations on how they got there but that is another point. With a three way it will be more interesting for smarks as either Hardy or Anderson can win by pinning the other and Angle can still claim he hasn't lost.

[SaySo]

It has happened to Angle before. (come into the match as champion and not get pinned in a triple threat match).

Three way match during WrestleMania 22 when Rey Mysterio pinned Randy Orton.

And was he involved in another three way match with Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit for the WWE InterContinental and European title at WM 17???? I believe Angle was not pinned and both Jericho and Benoit took Angle EuroContinental belts away from him.

PWTorch was the ratings source and updated with that post.

[Hyde Hill]

Well that would mean even greater continuity lolz. But I was more referring to his if I lose I quit storyline. This way he doesn't lose but doesn't win either. Makes it more interesting for the smarks/IWC. Not that that matters a lot but still.

[Hyde Hill]

Anyone who follows wrestlers might have seen it, but for those who don't, and especially those who haven't heard of this yet, Pope D'Angelo Dinero posted a worked shoot on his Twitter page called "Deception" in which he parodies the video Hogan posted earlier this week from his bed in the hospital where he said "The doctors have been pumping me all full of crap, much like I have been TNA,".

Video link is here: http://qik.com/video/12461245

Just rechecked all Hogan's vids from hospital and he never said that.

Edit: Ah you meant the other He eg Burke. Sorry hadn't been able to see the vid yet due to internet difficulties. The Hogan ones I could buffer ahead this one I could not.

[BHK1978]

How could Douglas Williams be a member of Fortune during his match with Jay Leathal Lethal a fact that Mike and Taz both talked about. Yet when Tommy Dreamer called them out as a group he was nowhere to be found? Did I miss something (I did FF portions of the show)?

[Hyde Hill]

Still dejected over his defeat? Or kicked out because he doesn't have the title any-more seeing as he wasn't a core member.

[Self]

EV2 as a group is more of a draw then Matt on his own imho. He is only a draw as a tag team or a midcard jobber as the E uses him imho. Matt is just played out and his window of opportunity has passed imho.

I don't know if I'd say the ECW guys are "more" of a draw than Matt, but they certainly bring in a specific audience that TNA perhaps weren't drawing before. Whereas Matt's audience is pretty much identical to Jeff's, albeit smaller.

Granted, I'm a Hardy mark, but I'd be interested to see Matt in TNA. Reuniting the team with Jeff. Having some matches with Beer Money and MCMG. See how motivated and in-shape he can get without the obvious glass ceiling above him like in WWE.

[sabataged]

I don't know if I'd say the ECW guys are "more" of a draw than Matt, but they certainly bring in a specific audience that TNA perhaps weren't drawing before. Whereas Matt's audience is pretty much identical to Jeff's, albeit smaller.

Granted, I'm a Hardy mark, but I'd be interested to see Matt in TNA. Reuniting the team with Jeff. Having some matches with Beer Money and MCMG. See how motivated and in-shape he can get without the obvious glass ceiling above him like in WWE.


I don't see any glass ceiling. Hardy's role was simple. He is a fan favorite babyface. The girls are supposed to want him, and the guys want to be his friend. He seems like an arrogant prick, he has a mullet and starting to go bald, and also he is so out of shape it is pathetic. Matt Hardy has no right ever being a face. He needs to be a smug heel like he was when he had his best run a few years ago.

[Stennick]

I don't see any glass ceiling. Hardy's role was simple. He is a fan favorite babyface. The girls are supposed to want him, and the guys want to be his friend. He seems like an arrogant prick, he has a mullet and starting to go bald, and also he is so out of shape it is pathetic. Matt Hardy has no right ever being a face. He needs to be a smug heel like he was when he had his best run a few years ago.

Sab needs to book the WWE, also if you could find time can you write some novels, beat epic video games in an hour, own and run you're own non descript, vague company oh and maybe have a former professional sports father all while charting WWE moves? Thanks

[Self]

Maybe there wasn't an actual glass ceiling in WWE, but from reading some of Matt's internet ramblings, he seemed to think there was. I think TNA might be good for him. Less schedule. More motivation. Less money, but surely the guy's saved up a fair amount over the years. I'm not saying Matt in TNA would be succesful, but I'd be interested to see what would happen. Can Matt get in shape again? Can he reinvent himself? Can he effectively move up the ranks?

[TheEdgeOfReason]

He'd probably get lost in the shuffle after an initial push like others who came over from WWE. His days were he was a potential ME guy are over imo.

[toeachtheirown]

I don't think he needs to be a main eventer. Hyde is always talking about name value well the name the Hardy Boyz would be cheaper than a name like Mic Foley and at this stage would half to carry roughly the same name value.

[Hyde Hill]

But just having Jeff would be cheaper then having both lolz. And what others EdgeOfReason? OJ? Jethro?

[toeachtheirown]

Yeah but then just having Jeff Hardy would be cheaper than having Mic Foley too.

You had said earlier how you needed this old guys "Nash, Foley, etc" in order to get international deals. Well I'm saying that Matt Hardy or the "Hardy Boyz" name is going to draw as well to international markets as Mic Foley would.

So which is it? It seems like sometimes you make excuses for TNA bringing in ECW, or Nash, Angle or Foley, or whoever when names like Hogan, Bischoff, Anderson, Hardy and RVD should be more than enough to cater to these international markets and TNA is suppose to have huge UK ratings so really they no longer need these guys. Their over seas business and tours should be marketing enough. they needed these guys in 02-05 not in 10.

[Self]

Yeah but then just having Jeff Hardy would be cheaper than having Mic Foley too.

Really? Because Jeff was in his prime, and one of the biggest names in wrestling when he signed for TNA, whereas Mick Foley was a colour commentator. I'd think Jeff is making a LOT more than Mick Foley in 2010.

[toeachtheirown]

I mean that just hiring Jeff Hardy instead of having Mic AND Jeff is cheaper.

Having Jeff without the Foley is less money on TNA's part sorry for the mis understanding.

[Hyde Hill]

Less wrestlers is always cheaper hehe. But Jeff's appeal and Mick's appeal don't overlap as much as Jeff and Matt's. Jeff (1) + Mick (1) would result in a 1.5 appeal but Jeff (1) + Mat (1) would result in a 1.1. If you catch my drift.

Plus we don't actually know how much Mick is costing TNA atm or how much Matt would cost.

[Hyde Hill]

Yeah but then just having Jeff Hardy would be cheaper than having Mic Foley too.

You had said earlier how you needed this old guys "Nash, Foley, etc" in order to get international deals. Well I'm saying that Matt Hardy or the "Hardy Boyz" name is going to draw as well to international markets as Mic Foley would.

So which is it? It seems like sometimes you make excuses for TNA bringing in ECW, or Nash, Angle or Foley, or whoever when names like Hogan, Bischoff, Anderson, Hardy and RVD should be more than enough to cater to these international markets and TNA is suppose to have huge UK ratings so really they no longer need these guys. Their over seas business and tours should be marketing enough. they needed these guys in 02-05 not in 10.

Seeing as they already have all those other guys they don't need to ad Matt. Jeff Hardy the name draws more then the Hardy Boys name imho. But having both Jeff Hardy and Mick Foley draws more then having Jeff Hardy and the other Hardy imho.

[Hyde Hill]

Also I do believe that with the addition of Hogan etc that Nash has become superflous and that once the EV2 stuff is over they are surplus to requirements as well.

[SaySo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW1ucm0PoEI&feature=player_embedde (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW1ucm0PoEI&feature=player_embedded)d

[SaySo]

There is heat on D’Angelo Dinero among some individuals in TNA Wrestling, reports the Pro Wrestling Torch.

According to sources within WWE, one of the reasons he was let go from the company two years ago was because many felt he let his push on the ECW brand get to his head. He was known to refer to himself in third person as “The Black Pope” once he achieved notoriety and it rubbed some people the wrong way. He has been exhibiting similar behavior in TNA as of late, which has some of his colleagues complaining. He didn’t do himself any favors by veering off script and cutting a 15 minute promo at a recent live event. Producer D-Lo Brown scolded him afterwards, with a number of wrestlers rolling their eyes at Dinero.

“The Pope” has also developed a reputation for making himself look good at the expense of his opponents.

[Jaysin]

Elijah Burke- Attn PWT: "The Pope" wasnt born until TNA, kinda hard to say "The Black Pope" in 3rd person, Off script 15min promo Toledo,OH? LMBO. Making myself look good?? Thats not hard to do, all I have to do is just show up. Pope made the dirt sheets....Awesome! Thanks 4 da publicity~ PHS

[Hyde Hill]

Ah the good old torch the national enquirer of wrestling. Not good enough to use as toilet paper imho lol.

[Jaysin]

and, I just wanted to say this, Pope is one of the most fan friendly people I have ever met. The security guards tried to rush us along during our backstage visit and he yelled at them so we could all get our pictures and stuff. Then, he personally walked my brother, my friend, and I back to the arena area and we got to meet D'lo and we joked with him a lot too.

[Moe Hunter]

Huh, I wonder how Burke explains that he used to have a blog on WWE.com where he frequently referred to himself as The Black Pope...

[djthefunkchris]

A) What made you start watching Impact?

I didn't really know much about them. I started playing TEW after I found the old freeware Warfare (forget the name, been a while). I looked for something like TEW because of the GM mode in Smackdown vs. Raw, and my son getting me back into wrestling with that game (and watching Raw/Smackdown).

So after finding these forums I start reading, and back then everyone was against the WWE and all they talked about was how great TNA was. I started watching TNA because of this, thinking "WOW! Another promotion with great wrestling, I have to see this!"

B) What kept you watching Impact?

Off and on, this forum saying what was going on (not this thread, it didn't exist at that time). I would re-try and hope for better shows.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?

The first time I stopped watching, was because it was a huge let down, and for some reason bored and angered me at the same time. I couldn't believe crap like that was being considered "better".

In all honesty, I think the forums really hurt my watching pleasure, as my expectations were really high. So it crushed me when it looked no better then WWE development.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?

Main reason... Hogan/Bischoff. There is alot better going on with the product at times, but they still have that same crazy outlook on how to do things. I can't stand starting and stopping stuff all the time. Finish what you started, or evolve it.... but don't just drop it and forget it existed.

Then there is always the hope that it takes off, does great, and beats the WWE and I get to see a "war" scenario. I'd like to see something like that, but don't look like it's going to happen anytime soon.

[BHK1978]

Thought I would fill this out as well.

Just wondering something when talking about drawing power in the broad sense of the word.

A) What made you start watching Impact?

Well I caught a couple of their monthly PPV's and I liked it. Plus I was more of a fan of WCW and TNA as a whole helped fill the void left over (I always felt that the WWF was insulting my intelliegence or lack thereof). Any way I watched their show that they had on before Impact (was that named Impact as well?), and I have watched it ever since for the most part.

B) What kept you watching Impact?

Just because I grew very sick of the WWF.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?

I usually only watch them during the Summer and early Winter because there is always something that I like on at the same time that I would rather watch (Fringe, Supernatural, It's Always Sunny). When they had the Saturday night rerun I used to catch what I missed on Thursday.

However, since they took that away, I only read about what is going on either on this site or some wrestling news site. With it being regular TV season now, I will probably stop watching TNA for the next couple of months.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?

Well I really do not care how bad it is, I will always go back to watching it when there is nothing on against it that I want to watch.

[Hyde Hill]

TNAsylum Sources can confirm that any rumor of there being heat backstage towards D'Angelo Dinero is in fact just a rumor and is NOT true.

There at one point was a little heat on Rob Terry for being green in the ring but that left after he dropped the Global/TV Title and wasn't seen on Television for a few weeks. Hulk Hogan is said to be a big fan of his look.

Not the most trustworthy site but equal with the torch at least imho.

[Tigerkinney]

A) What made you start watching Impact?

Back in 2004 they used to show the old weekly PPV's on the wrestling channel, I was flicking the channels one day and got hooked by the X-Division.

B) What kept you watching Impact?

Despite some questionable booking, I saw potential in a talented roster. The fact that is seemed to be a more wrestling focused alternative to WWE's Sports Entertainment approach.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?

Various times where the crappy booking has got too much, and over the years they have moved away from being an 'alternative' to the WWE in trying to compete with them head on. Seems like most weeks there is also actually more in-ring action in the WWE, than TNA these days and that makes me a sad panda. Though to be honest most breaks would be pretty short , however after the eye gouging crap-fest that was the beginning of the Hogan reign I pretty much stayed away this time for about half a year and pretty much had declared myself done with TNA.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?

Hearing that the shows had improved, and especially hearing good things about the Beer Money-MCMG feud. I still see the same problems as ever before since returning to watching TNA again but I think the creative low point for the company was at the beginning of this year, so there is always the promise that it can't get any worse. I must admit I am also intrigued by the whole 'they' storyline even if knowing TNA it will end up being something really lame like an NWO reunion or it was the voices in Abyss' head.

[SaySo]

Rob Terry has reportedly fallen out of favor with a number of people in TNA Wrestling, according to the Pro Wrestling Torch. The Welsh bodybuilder has been on the losing end of numerous matches as of late not to mention left off television tapings entirely. One company source noted that past supporters of Terry are distancing themselves from him.

[Jaysin]

Rob Terry has reportedly fallen out of favor with a number of people in TNA Wrestling, according to the Pro Wrestling Torch. The Welsh bodybuilder has been on the losing end of numerous matches as of late not to mention left off television tapings entirely. One company source noted that past supporters of Terry are distancing themselves from him.

This was posted two posts up :p

[Self]

Rob Terry isn't very good right now, but he's really young (and Welsh) so I hope TNA don't throw the baby out with the bath water. He may never be a "great technical wrestler" but a couple of years of solid time in the ring, learning how to work in front of a crowd, matched with his killer physique and he could be something someday. Toss him in a tag team. Let him develop.

[Jaysin]

Rob Terry isn't very good right now, but he's really young (and Welsh) so I hope TNA don't throw the baby out with the bath water. He may never be a "great technical wrestler" but a couple of years of solid time in the ring, learning how to work in front of a crowd, matched with his killer physique and he could be something someday. Toss him in a tag team. Let him develop.

That's what I've been saying. Plus, that spin kick he does is awesome!

[Slagaholic]

The problem with Rob Terry is that sometimes he is business exposing bad. That is unacceptable. Give him a 6 month boot camp, get him to the point where he can work a competent match without needing to have his hand held and then bring him back.

[Hyde Hill]

Thing is there is plenty of talent within or even outside TNA that are more deserving of air time then him whatever his potential. If TNA had a dev territory where they could keep him for say 2 years and had the funds to do so then sure, otherwise cut him.

[Hyde Hill]

A) What made you start watching Impact?

Back in 2004 they used to show the old weekly PPV's on the wrestling channel, I was flicking the channels one day and got hooked by the X-Division.

B) What kept you watching Impact?

Despite some questionable booking, I saw potential in a talented roster. The fact that is seemed to be a more wrestling focused alternative to WWE's Sports Entertainment approach.

C) If applicable why did you stop watching?

Various times where the crappy booking has got too much, and over the years they have moved away from being an 'alternative' to the WWE in trying to compete with them head on. Seems like most weeks there is also actually more in-ring action in the WWE, than TNA these days and that makes me a sad panda. Though to be honest most breaks would be pretty short , however after the eye gouging crap-fest that was the beginning of the Hogan reign I pretty much stayed away this time for about half a year and pretty much had declared myself done with TNA.

D) If applicable what made you start watching again?

Hearing that the shows had improved, and especially hearing good things about the Beer Money-MCMG feud. I still see the same problems as ever before since returning to watching TNA again but I think the creative low point for the company was at the beginning of this year, so there is always the promise that it can't get any worse. I must admit I am also intrigued by the whole 'they' storyline even if knowing TNA it will end up being something really lame like an NWO reunion or it was the voices in Abyss' head.

Actually on average of the 2 hour A shows Impact has the most wrestling for the whole year. Smackdown averages longer matches though. They have even had a week where they had more wrestling then Raw and Smackdown combined and this is excluding the Whole F'n Show.

Source: By the numbers by PWI.

[PeterHilton]

Thing is there is plenty of talent within or even outside TNA that are more deserving of air time then him whatever his potential. If TNA had a dev territory where they could keep him for say 2 years and had the funds to do so then sure, otherwise cut him.

this. totally...this.

they already have too little time to showcase the wrestlers they have. devoting more time to someone who may or may not pay off down the road (and Terry's potential iMO is a giant IF) is silly.

Cut him loose...tell him to go overseas ..work in Japan...and then come back when he's more useful

[SaySo]

TNA Wrestling president Dixie Carter has discussed bringing Scott Hall back to the organization once he completes rehabilitation, reports Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio.

Hall’s last stint with the organization came to an end shortly after his May 14, 2010 arrest on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting a police officer.

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Thing is there is plenty of talent within or even outside TNA that are more deserving of air time then him whatever his potential. If TNA had a dev territory where they could keep him for say 2 years and had the funds to do so then sure, otherwise cut him.

Like they did with Hernandez and AAA. Does A'more have a promotion in Canada or sumthing?

[SaySo]

-- Jeff Hardy has announced that he's getting new entrance music, which will debut at TNA Bound For Glory.

-- Here is a preview of this week's TNA iMPACT!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e69vvh5w3_4&feature=player_embedded

-- Hector Guerrero Interviews MMG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6xg9Ym1ac&feature=player_embedded

[Hyde Hill]

TNA Wrestling president Dixie Carter has discussed bringing Scott Hall back to the organization once he completes rehabilitation, reports Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio.

Hall’s last stint with the organization came to an end shortly after his May 14, 2010 arrest on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting a police officer.

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Like they did with Hernandez and AAA. Does A'more have a promotion in Canada or sumthing?

I love you Hall but let the memories be mate and move on.

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Ehm Hernandez is there for cross promotional reasons not to learn how to work. While he isn't the greatest around he is light years ahead of Terry and I think he has a better look.

I guess you mean Scott D'Amore and yes his Border City Wrestling merged with another company and now he is the head of Maximum Pro Wrestling which is due to the merger as far as I know the premiere indy in Canada and he has left TNA in order to run it a while back.

Excellent for World X cup though if or when they run it again. NJPW, AAA and Max Pro. Maybe get FWA as well?

For training purposes TNA has a deal with Mach 1 in California it's apparently where Lacey is training to get less bad.

[Jaysin]

I think Rob Terry has a better look than Hernandez. Hernandez comes across like a gorilla trying to be tough. I used to be a huge supporter of his, but he's just too goofy looking. Plus, he walks on his toes and that annoys the crap out of me.

[SaySo]

I thought it was a way of introducing Hernandez to the hispanic demographic as well as to learn how to speak the language. It's still a win-win on both sides since Hernandez will gain exposure and TNA can start touring Mexico with the SuperMex.

Hernandez look reminds me of Konnan.

[Jaysin]

I thought it was a way of introducing Hernandez to the hispanic demographic as well as to learn how to speak the language. It's still a win-win on both sides since Hernandez will gain exposure and TNA can start touring Mexico with the SuperMex.

Hernandez look reminds me of Konnan.

You mean a Latin thug look? That's the only real connection I see between the two(besides being in LAX).

Konnan always looked like someone I wouldn't want to mess with, Hernandez looks like he'd slip on a banana peel in a cartoon.

[SaySo]

You mean a Latin thug look? That's the only real connection I see between the two(besides being in LAX).

Konnan always looked like someone I wouldn't want to mess with, Hernandez looks like he'd slip on a banana peel in a cartoon.

The bandana (from Konnan Wolfpac days i think), the shaved head and skin tone.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR68T9dTfWm70vcyNlFCo3OVg7GcmfYt ra3dpCkEet5uQ-orBU&t=1&usg=__Q0LJXbknfGlf4OkUm7ek8CPiic8=

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2-7AdSkZA7I/SZXq1gWzcSI/AAAAAAAAUi0/ADgNxCADhPY/s400/Konnan-lucha+libre.jpg

[Hyde Hill]

Meh I like it as it's unique. Maybe my inner Self is acting up.

Matt Morgan behind the scenes on his Good Guys part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8wGUMC5FG4&feature=player_embedded

This added to the family feud and some other stuff seems that the new marketing manager knows what he is doing.

[SaySo]

Hogan posted a video of him being once again in the hospital

http://www.twitvid.com/FI1JO (http://www.twitvid.com/FI1JO)

[SaySo]

Eric Bischoff posted a new blog on his official website. Below is his blog where he talks about "wrestling in general," Hulk Hogan and politics.

On Wrestling In General:

Sitting on Delta flight 2284 headed to Nashville to meet with Vince and Matt to go over the live iMPACT on the 7th and the BFG PPV.

There are some things I like about the production schedule of iMPACT (mostly not having to travel 52 weeks a year), but some things that I continue to find challenging. Most notably is the inability to read the crowd and “litmus test” an audience’s reaction to a story, scene or character.

In reality television, networks and the companies that produce these formats usually produce a “casting tape” to get a sense of characters. Once a casting tape passes network muster, a “pilot presentation” or actual pilot is produced based on a treatment or outline that can range from in-depth to exhaustive depending on the network and the project.

The pilot typically goes through a series of network and producer notes BEFORE it goes to a research/focus group and then is re-edited (unless said project messes the bed) and then re-tested.

Should said project be green-lit, each episode goes through a grueling process of notes, edits, more notes, more edits, more notes and more edits and so on until (hopefully) the show sees a place on a schedule.

WWE (and WCW before it) has the ability to “test and focus group” their concepts in front of 5,000-15,000 live fans in an arena every Monday, dissect ratings information by Tuesday and make changes accordingly.

The fluidity of this process cannot be under-estimated.

While I am not sure I would want to sign up to be on the road 52 weeks per year at this point in my life, I do covet the real-time “research” and process that only a live television series like WWE Raw enjoys.

On Hulk Hogan:

I spoke to Hulk on Sunday morning. He sounded better than he had in 3 weeks and confidant that his current treatment was going to go well. By the time I got to Salt Lake City today for my connecting flight I heard that Hulk was back in the hospital for emergency treatment for his back. I traded texts with Hulk’s fiancée and it sounds like he is resting comfortably for now.

Many of you reading this have your own opinions of Hulk Hogan the character. Most of what is written about him comes from second and third hand perspectives from those with their own agendas, and a fair amount is generated by response to Hulks own propensity to promote the product he loves.

Unfortunately, very few people know Terry Bollea.

My relationship with Hulk Hogan started out predictably. It was the classic “office vs. talent” relationship, except that I was green as goose **** and he was a master at the game.

Over the years there were moments when we either chose, or were forced to trust each other. As time went on and the gap between “office vs. talent” became narrower and the trust between us grew more solid, a different person began to emerge from the larger than life character that the world knows as Hulk Hogan.

In time, I began to distinguish Hulk Hogan from Terry Bollea.

Terry Bollea’s real life challenges have played out over the last couple of years in a very public and sometimes painful manner.

But during this time I have been present and witnessed firsthand an uncompromising love of a father whose dedication to his children that knows no limitations. I’ve witnessed the grace and patience of a man who would rather spend time with a wrestling fan than he would in the company of high power entertainment personalities and executives.

I have seen generosity that, at times angered me because I felt it was unappreciated by those who benefited from it.

I have watched a 57-year-old man re-discover his joy and enthusiasm for life and his purpose in it, that is motivating to everyone around him despite situations and circumstances that would crack most people.

Here’s hoping you get well soon and start kicking some ass again bro…in and out of the ring.

And thank you!

On Politics:

-snip- visit Bischoff blog to learn more by clicking here (http://www.ericbischoff.com/categoryblog/127-heading-to-nashville).

[Moe Hunter]

Maybe I didn't read that right, but I think Bischoff may be the only person whom one might call "talent" who LIKES the network TV process! Focus groups, network notes, constant re-writes... Everyone else who has to deal with those things absolutely hate it, but not EB?

Of course his political views seem well blown out of proportion, so maybe that's part of his pathos.

[Hyde Hill]

Shhhh no politics on the boards on Adam Ryland will close the thread. It's not so much the process he likes but the opportunity for viable feedback which TNA does not have being in the Impact Zone and not being Live.

[spikedave]

Hey i have a blog about tna if anyone wants to read it up online

Its called The Good The Bad The TNA

http://tnauk.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/the-goodthe-badthe-tna/

[justtxyank]

PWINSIDER reports a "big" signing for TNA. I don't subscribe so I can't see.

[juggaloninjalee]

PWINSIDER reports a "big" signing for TNA. I don't subscribe so I can't see.

Me either but now I am dieing to find out who.

[Slagaholic]

If it's a real report the info should get out in a matter of hours.

[Rathen4]

It's Matt Hardy.

[juggaloninjalee]

It's Matt Hardy.

Is it really?

[Self]

I'm hearing Mickie James. Certainly a 'big' name if true. /giggle.

[juggaloninjalee]

I'm hearing Mickie James. Certainly a 'big' name if true. /giggle.

Matt Hardy or Mickie James... neither will make me more interested in TNA.

[SaySo]

Speaking of Matt Hardy:

http://i54.tinypic.com/syqfl1.jpg

Buff Hardy.

[SaySo]

From: nodq.com

According to a report on diva-dirt.com, former WWE Diva Mickie James has either signed or is expected to sign a contract with TNA Wrestling today. Word has been going around that James would finalize a deal with the company today.

In a potentially related note, TNA Wrestling is going to have an all-Knockouts PPV on October 1st.

Stay tuned for updates!

[Rathen4]

It's still Matt Hardy :P

edit: He'll be there by the end of October. I'd put moneys on it.

[SaySo]

It's still Matt Hardy :P

edit: He'll be there by the end of October. I'd put moneys on it.

I assumed he will have to wait 90 days from the point he is released from WWE and can officially sign with TNA.

[TracyBrooksFan]

I hope it Mickie James

[dvdWarrior]

I can't say for sure, but a little bird tells me there's an outside chance that TNA's BIG new signing is the LEGENDARY Bruno Sammartino!!

What? They aready have the best of the 80s and 90s, seems only natural they'd wanna crack that 70s market as well...

I kid, I kid.

:p

[Robtallica]

It's still Matt Hardy :P

edit: He'll be there by the end of October. I'd put moneys on it.

is his contracy up by then? if not and he gets released then you also have to add on the 90 day thing which wwe put in there contracts...

so is this signing a nasty boys/orlando jordan "big" or a hardy/rvd BIG signing?

[SaySo]

Robtallica, it's bigger than Nasty Boys/Orlando Jordan, that's automatic. I'm assuming it's big if you look at it as women wrestling in general since Mickie James has a lot of credibility being one of the well known WWE divas in the last ten years. Comparing her to the rock stars you mention, maybe she is similar in their stature in terms of drawability. She'll help the Knockout division a lot though.

[Robtallica]

Robtallica, it's bigger than Nasty Boys/Orlando Jordan, that's automatic. I'm assuming it's big if you look at it as women wrestling in general since Mickie James has a lot of credibility being one of the well known WWE divas in the last ten years. Comparing her to the rock stars you mention, maybe she is similar in their stature in terms of drawability. She'll help the Knockout division a lot though.

well if it really is mickie then that would be a big help to ko division. i wasnt sure if it really was mickie they had signed was all, wasnt a knock to mickie as she is of the biggist name female free agent wrestlers out there right now.

[crownsy]

seems to be james, and good for her as i like her, but LOL at the rumor sites and dixie calling this a major signing.

Chris jericho would be a major signing. MAtt hardy would, very very arguably be a major signing.

Mickie james is not a major signing, and if TNA and dixie think she is, prehaps that reflects a problem with the company's direction.

If i were them, i would take every last dime in the budget and throw it at Y2J. I for one don't think it's a coincidence that its common knowledge he's taking his leave from WWE for at least 4-5 months and raw's ratings drop. He's one of the few guys that could actually swing ratings in a measurable way.

heck it was a surprise he was even on raw given his tweets the days before. I don't think thats the total reason for the ratings drop by any means, but i think it contributed.

[The Final Countdown]

seems to be james, and good for her as i like her, but LOL at the rumor sites and dixie calling this a major signing.

Chris jericho would be a major signing. MAtt hardy would, very very arguably be a major signing.

Mickie james is not a major signing, and if TNA and dixie think she is, prehaps that reflects a problem with the company's direction.
Whether or not Mickie would be a major signing is debatable, but I don't see how Matt Hardy would be any bigger. Mickie was arguably the most popular female in WWE when she was let go, and I think she could lure a fair few fans into tuning in to Impact. But I'd say most of the people who like Matt and would watch him in TNA are already watching the show to see his (more popular) brother.

Jericho would be a MAJOR signing, for sure, but I'd say the chances of signing him, now or in the future, are next to none.

[Stennick]

Any cash TNA gave Jericho don't you think Vince could triple that if he wanted?

I don't think there is any direct comparison between Jericho and the ratings. Its been discussed a single time that there isn't a single wrestler in the WWE that is capable of having an impact on the ratings. HHH has been out for months, Cena is set to take some time off, Orton has taken time off, Edge, Jericho, etc ratings are affected by outside things.

You have to remember that new shows are premiering all over cable and the networks right now. The Event drew 11 million, and unless its the next CSI (its not sci fi shows don't draw like that) that amount will be cut in half within a month. Monday Night football had an amazingly fun game that literally came down to the last play of the game with one of the more popular teams in the league.

Jericho has openly mocked TNA on twitter on countless occasions, combined with his new network show, combined with touring with Fozzy, combined with burnout means he's not signing with TNA. Its just not happening. Mickie James and Matt Hardy are as big as its getting right now.

Mickie may move a few hundred viewers over to Impact for a few weeks but much like the numbers on The Event, those numbers will be cut in half in a few weeks after her return becomes old news.

[brashleyholland]

Whether or not Mickie would be a major signing is debatable, but I don't see how Matt Hardy would be any bigger. Mickie was arguably the most popular female in WWE when she was let go, and I think she could lure a fair few fans into tuning in to Impact. But I'd say most of the people who like Matt and would watch him in TNA are already watching the show to see his (more popular) brother.

Jericho would be a MAJOR signing, for sure, but I'd say the chances of signing him, now or in the future, are next to none.

As someone who is very much not a fan of wrestling these days, but occasionally tunes in for a few weeks as a time due to nostalgia/something cool...I can say that TNA bringing in Matt Hardy sounds a million-and-six times better than whoever this Mickie woman is. (Not being facetious , I really don't know)

[Hyde Hill]

Last quote on from Dixie on the talent signing. Which according to PWI and TNAsylum is Micky.

Dixie Carter Just signed a new talent contract on someone you guys have been asking about. Stay tuned!
August 30 at 7:00pm via Twitter · Comment · Like · @TNADixie on Twitter

Asylum said this was James at the time. So she never said anything about a major signing.

It was a major change that she mentioned just pre Slammiversary and it will be revealed at 10/7. And in the BFG kick off show she made it clear it would be a major change and not a surprise (talent). So there will also be a change apart from the talent.

[PeterHilton]

Neither Hardy nor James would be 'a major signing'

They're both fairly terrible at the moment...Hardy is a shadow of his 'glory days' who's potential to be a breakout star has come and gone. And other than TraceyBrooksFan i don't know a single human being who cares enough about the women's division in TNA or WWE that Mickie James would actually influence their viewing habits.

[Johnny Fenoli]

Neither Hardy nor James would be 'a major signing'

They're both fairly terrible at the moment...Hardy is a shadow of his 'glory days' who's potential to be a breakout star has come and gone. And other than TraceyBrooksFan i don't know a single human being who cares enough about the women's division in TNA or WWE that Mickie James would actually influence their viewing habits.

yeap....

On the Matt Hardy note... WHY would they want Matt Hardy? I'd personally rather have Carlito or Shelton Benjamin, or even Matt's buddy Gregory Helms over Matt Hardy. If I had to pick from recent WWE departures.

[crownsy]

yeap....

On the Matt Hardy note... WHY would they want Matt Hardy? I'd personally rather have Carlito or Shelton Benjamin, or even Matt's buddy Gregory Helms over Matt Hardy. If I had to pick from recent WWE departures.

I think they'd be fairly interested in matt for a hardy boyz reunion if nothing else, doubt they'll have to pay him alot.

[TracyBrooksFan]

Neither Hardy nor James would be 'a major signing'

They're both fairly terrible at the moment...Hardy is a shadow of his 'glory days' who's potential to be a breakout star has come and gone. And other than TraceyBrooksFan i don't know a single human being who cares enough about the women's division in TNA or WWE that Mickie James would actually influence their viewing habits.

You must hat eme for some reason.

ANd Mickie has a fan base following which liek said will start or continue to watch TNA.

[PeterHilton]

You must hat eme for some reason.

ANd Mickie has a fan base following which liek said will start or continue to watch TNA.

:rolleyes:

No..i just think you have a myopic view of the importance (or lack thereof) of women's wrestling

[Stennick]

Yeah Mickie may have a fan base but that fan base won't see any number difference in TNA's rating. Think about how TNA has murdered the KO division this year and as much as everyone cries about it the ratings for the show haven't suffered anymore than at any other time.

[brashleyholland]

You must hat eme for some reason.

ANd Mickie has a fan base following which liek said will start or continue to watch TNA.

Please show me one bit of proof of a female WWE wrestler having a fan-base that followed them anywhere else.

[djthefunkchris]

:rolleyes:

No..i just think you have a myopic view of the importance (or lack thereof) of women's wrestling

Yeah Mickie may have a fan base but that fan base won't see any number difference in TNA's rating. Think about how TNA has murdered the KO division this year and as much as everyone cries about it the ratings for the show haven't suffered anymore than at any other time.

I think the problem isn't if they have a fan base or not... I think it's that most the people that know of wrestler's that have fan base's outside of WWE, already watch TNA, and so it wouldn't make a hill of beans if they hired her or not, as her followers are already watching TNA.

This goes for an aweful lot of wrestler's, not just women. Most people don't know wrestling outside of the WWE (in general USA), and so they could sign Batista, John Cena, Undertaker, etc... and probably wouldn't see anything unless they somehow got ALOT of attention from other media sources about it.

The problem isn't their name value, as TNA has HUGE stars, and really more popular at some point then WWE's roster is right now. The problem as I see it is a combination of things. Media coverage, they are never in the news or any other show that gets better ratings then they already get. Production is not up to par for the most part, although I think it has improved tremendously.

They should forget about PPV's and do just TV, with GREAT shows for title's at PPV level. I think that would make a world of difference in the long run. They have the backing in money, so they don't need the PPV's... since they don't get half as many.

I've always felt when I watch TNA that the biggest turn-off is they pretent to be bigger then they are, and that the viewer MUST see the next PPV, in order to truly enjoy their type of entertainment. They really need to focus on PPV level shows, and out-do their competition first, then sell PPV's. The PPV's could be huge if they would get rid of all but say... one of them a year for now. Maybe for two years in a row, then slowly add one every quarter, for another year, then ... you get the picture. Think long run instead of short bursts all the time.

[crownsy]

Please show me one bit of proof of a female WWE wrestler having a fan-base that followed them anywhere else.

This, it's unfortunate and I like watching women wrestling when the worker is talented (and, as a typical guy, when the girl is hot.) but i don't think the world and fan at large really cares about the specific workers.

That seems to be across genders though, aside from a few workers.