The Official TNA Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 38

Fantabulous

07-28-2011, 04:17 PM

TNA losing Spike would very likely be the end for them. Wrestling isn't exactly hot right now and it's not an attractive vehicle for networks as it is; it gets decent/strong numbers in young men, but few other demographics, the fans of wrestling very rarely stick around for other shows, and advertisers are legendary for their dim view of wrestling fans as a whole, so wrestling is a tough sell at the best of times. When you've got a national promotion that barely qualifies for that distinction that, if it is turning a profit it's only because of the money it gets for rights fees, taking away what is probably their biggest source of income, the money from Spike, is a virtual death sentence because there probably is not going to be another network willing to offer them the kind of money Spike would.

stratusfaction

07-28-2011, 04:26 PM

I really don't think Spike will be getting rid of them anytime soon. Impact is their highest rated show even when Impact's rating is low. I bet they will cut back on the money they are pumping into TNA but I doubt they will cancel them completely.

I understand they are wanting to rebrand their channel and that is all good however, Impact only airs 2 hours each week so there is still many hours that they can cater to their new demographic.

I wonder what will happen when WWE gets their own cable wrestling station. I could see them charging smaller promotions like ROH alot for tv time on their new network. Who knows.

jwt13

07-28-2011, 04:28 PM

It's the highest rated show on Spike so I doubt they get cut. However if it did get cut it wouldn't be the end of TNA, remember Bischoff has ties with other networks and this isn't a WCW/Turner like situation. They could go to, Tru TV, TBS (Doubtfull), MTV (Which owns Spike), MTV 2, or ESPN 2 I heard some were that ESPN was looking for a wrestling show ala the AWA in the 90's so this could be it. TNA getting cut by Spike is a very very slim chance so they most likely dont need to worry about these channels.

Fantabulous

07-28-2011, 04:34 PM

The Final Countdown

07-28-2011, 04:36 PM

Yeah, Spike cancelling TNA is unlikely because they do so well, but all it takes is one guy in power to take a look at the programming and decide that professional wrestling doesn't fit into their plans to rebrand the network.
Exactly. And if they really are looking to rebrand, that one guy might already be in place.

I hope this doesn't happen though. Losing their deal with Spike would probably kill TNA, and I've actually been enjoying Imapct lately.

angeldelayette

07-28-2011, 08:23 PM

So who won the RVD/Gunner match? I'm sure it's done now. My power blinked and that killed the satellite, which means I have to go through 5-10 minutes of everything getting reprogrammed.

Jaysin

07-28-2011, 08:31 PM

So who won the RVD/Gunner match? I'm sure it's done now. My power blinked and that killed the satellite, which means I have to go through 5-10 minutes of everything getting reprogrammed.

RVD won.

Sting is golden again this week.

angeldelayette

07-28-2011, 08:41 PM

RVD won.

Sting is golden again this week.

Appreciate it! And Sting is definitely golden so far. Hilarious how he shows up in the Immortal office. Kind of reminds me of when The Hurricane appeared in The Rock's locker.

Jaysin

07-28-2011, 08:47 PM

Bully Ray playing Angry Birds? YES!!!

Jaysin

07-28-2011, 09:48 PM

Sting lied about being the Network Executive. I'm loving Sting even more than usual this week.

angeldelayette

07-28-2011, 10:12 PM

Sting lied about being the Network Executive. I'm loving Sting even more than usual this week.

That was brilliant! He was probably the reason that Eric couldn't get through to the network as well.

mike b

07-28-2011, 11:20 PM

Exactly. And if they really are looking to rebrand, that one guy might already be in place.

I hope this doesn't happen though. Losing their deal with Spike would probably kill TNA, and I've actually been enjoying Imapct lately.

Yupp look what happened along time ago to Gilligan's island
It was a top ten show with good ratings they had just signed on for another season butttttt the guy on top loved one of the westerns they had which had been pumped off for some reason or another. So guess what show got the axe to make room for that western. Lets hope the guy on top loves TNA cause with no TV market they are dead.

Hive

07-29-2011, 04:48 AM

Maybe Vince will buy TNA and do an invasion storyline properly this time.

mike b

07-29-2011, 06:07 AM

Maybe Vince will buy TNA and do an invasion storyline properly this time.

Tell me you jest :p

Hive

07-29-2011, 06:24 AM

Tell me you jest :p

I jest. :p

20LEgend

07-29-2011, 08:58 AM

Going to do my thoughts as I go through again :)

Angle was decent, thought Hogan was really good (other than his poor maths skills Kurt "pooping in diapers" when he was 16 :p) Didn't watch Gunner vs. RVD but I may go back later if I read it was good.

Immortal were good and Hulk again, someone I really dislike, was good.Apart from the facial expressions Sting was good, I can't believe I'm saying it but he wasn't as annoying and I actually enjoyed him in this segmment. But why would Spik hire a psycho.

Aries, Shelley, BK was good only because I can't wait for the matches. A Double was good, and then Abyss did his thing. Sound like it'll be a good match.

Damn Matt Morgan I wanted him to win. :( Eww, Angry birds (yawn) Bully you're not going to win :p Crimson winning was obvious but so it should be :D

Winter match was short so not much to say. X Div match was good, not DX level but still, nice ending! EY no opinion okay skit I suppose.

No interest in ODB and Jackie. Traci was good. ODB was okay Velvet wasn't bad but I don't know if it's true. She a bit of an over actor.

Wonder what the six man is Anderson, Ray, Abyss or Gunner?

I don't like random cage matches. Nice twist to the network thing, although it shows how dumb Immortal are. I questioned it earlier. Sting was too OTT for me in this, but it wasn't as bad a previous weeks. The point abouthe suit was good. The bird was weird. I liked sneaky Bully Ray. Ending leaves questions. What was the point in the blackout?

MUCH better than last week although not great, with the storylines not particularly gripping me.

Edit after reading other posts: Sting lied about being the Network Executive. I'm loving Sting even more than usual this week.

That probably why I hate it less :p

Eisen-verse

07-30-2011, 11:43 AM

So, let me preface this by saying that I haven't watched TNA in a bout 2 months as I haven't had TV for that time frame, BUT I'm loving the Joker-rip-off off for Sting. Is it original? No. Is he entertaining at it? Totally. Kudos to someone of Sting's stature for going 'outside the box' a little and not playing the same 'Legend' persona that everyone does at the end of their career (seeming like they can beat 20-somethings as if they were super-human).

I have much respect for Sting for doing this.

Also, I was loving me some Sting/Bischoff segments from this past episode. I really don't like Immortal, really at all, but the segment came over well.

Cheers.

E-V

jwt13

07-31-2011, 04:41 AM

I miss Jeff Hardy :(

Hashasheen

07-31-2011, 05:21 AM

I miss Jeff Hardy :(

Never gotten the love and fanbase.

Remianen

07-31-2011, 07:48 AM

Yeah, Spike cancelling TNA is unlikely because they do so well, but all it takes is one guy in power to take a look at the programming and decide that professional wrestling doesn't fit into their plans to rebrand the network.

That guy is not Kevin Kay.

Since the restructuring after Judy was forc...err, resigned, pretty much everyone's been on pins and needles. Everyone's under review, just about (even the VMAs are going to be scaled down somewhat this year). They're not "cutting ties" with UFC at all either. The rebranding is a contingency plan because it's expected that Comcast/NBC Universal is going to overpay (MAJORLY) for UFC when their contract comes due. They see it as the lynchpin in their rebranding of VERSUS (to 'NBC Sports') and Spike can't compete with them (in size or $$$). I don't see Kevin dumping TNA, even with the imminent loss of UFC.

I could definitely be wrong but I don't think so. Kevin Kay is not Jamie Kellner. Jamie Kellner would not have greenlighted 'Coal' or 'MANswers' or 'The Deadliest Warrior' or even Blue Mountain State. And Afro Samurai wasn't ghetto enough to appeal to Kellner (and it's animated and everyone knows animated shows are for children, RIGHT?!? :rolleyes:). The only way I could see them dumping TNA is if the network switches to a format that competes with Lifetime (in other words, a complete 180). That's not likely to happen.

bigtplaystew

07-31-2011, 11:36 PM

I'm completely uncomfortable watching Sting do bad heath ledger impressions every week. It's to the point that I've been a loyal TNA watcher for years and can't watch it to the end anymore. He literally makes me turn off the show it's so bad.

But I have to say as an intelligent man that even though I don't care for it, fans are eating this gimmick up, man. Sting never had problems getting over but he's more over now than he's been in a good while. I want to see TNA succeed because I feel like they have some amazing talent. So if this gimmick that I hate happens to help the company, I'm for it. As crazy as that is.

I half kiddingly hope someone else does it though with another company. Just to see the reaction. Like if some young WWE guy just starts ripping off the Joker, can TNA fans complain that he's "Stealing" a gimmick that's already stolen? LOL. I know this won't happen it's just a funny thought to me.

Eisen-verse

08-03-2011, 07:07 PM

tristram

08-04-2011, 02:57 AM

Its either a Heath Ledger rip off or a Jack the Ripper victim with added paint rip off.

Self

08-04-2011, 04:32 AM

Based on what little I've seen, it almost seems like Jack Nicholson's Joker in terms of personality, with Heath Ledger's Joker's look.

bigtplaystew

08-04-2011, 07:56 AM

While he's not just simply doing exactly as Ledger did, he's doing some of Heath's mannerisms. The look and the attitude are there. My girlfriend, who knows nothing about wrestling, looked at the TV for one of his promos: it was the really bad one where 'Hulk Hogan' - or someone that really looked like him from behind anyway lol... really weird there... beat him with a bat and Sting just took the beating and cracked jokes for no reason whatsoever. Apparently someone forgot that one of Batman joker's character points is he's physically underwhelming and allowed Batman to beat him to draw out the darkness inside his nemesis, to prove a point and break his will to keep fighting crime - in a few words. Whereas Sting can fight and Hogan is a straight bad guy... so him beating Sting with a bat showed and displayed absolutely nothing except bad writing...

ANYWAY

She looked at the promo and said, "wow... he's doing a bad heath ledger impression. Why do you watch this crap?"

To be fair to TNA she says this about all wrestling. Point is, she imediately picked up on it and I think it's fairly obvious that while not copying heath directly, he's clearly using his version of the Joker as the main character basis. It's instantly recognizable that Sting is ripping off Heath LEdger's joker, if not 100% of his character than at least all of the recognizable parts. If another movie not titles Batman had this Joker Sting -the way he's been on TV- as a a main character, they would be called out for thievery and most likely sued.

If you are trying to give him credit for also stealing some of Jack Nicholson's joker, I wouldn't disagree but I don't see how that's a plus for the character. LEt's steal everything about the Joker except the good acting and dynamic character traits

Now obviously Sting's not murdering people lol... figured I wouldn't have to clear that up but you never know on message boards i guess.

Self

08-04-2011, 08:51 AM

Wasn't trying to claim it was a positive at all. Just saw him prancing around a bit and thought Nicholson more than Ledger. I've only seen a handful of GIFs though.

On the whole, I'm a fan of wrestling stealing things from other mediums, only... I wouldn't be so overt about it. Steal the soul of Joker, sure, but the exact facepaint? If I wanted to play a Deadpool-style character on a show (and I've thought about it) I'd steal the personality, the violence, the comedy, the pop culture references, breaking the fourth wall... but I wouldn't wear the exact same mask. That's just silly.

bigtplaystew

08-04-2011, 01:50 PM

Well "pracing around" brings images of the more flamboyant Heath Ledger joker more so than the cold and stoic Joker that Nicholson portrayed.

Either way, it's obvious he's ripping off movie joker lol. We can sit here and debate which one it appears to be more but it's irrelevant and boring to read to most peope I would gather. It's fairly obvious to most that he invokes images of Ledger's joker.

Not digging it myself but it's big for them right now.

Bull

08-04-2011, 01:58 PM

I think the look itself is why people compare it to ledgers joker. If you actually watch both movies I think the character sting is portraying is more or less a combination of both, but I also think the simple fact that his facepaint resembles leger's joker is why it draws the comparison more.

bigtplaystew

08-04-2011, 02:17 PM

Bull

08-04-2011, 02:40 PM

Fair enough... it's a fruitless argument either way. My original point is that it was lame.

We all know he's not directly copying anyone because he's a pro wrestler and not a mass murdering psychopath. Again... didn't think I'd have to clear that up to other adults.

I wasn't trying to argue. I was simply making a statement base on the conversation I saw.

I actually agree with your point of it being lame. I turn the channel everytime i see him anymore, but the fact that he is a pro wrestler shouldn't have anything to do with anything. People portray characters in their own way. Maybe he isn't trying to copy Ledger's or Nicholson's Joker, but just the character of the Joker itself.

The look is an obvious copy, but there are so many interpretations of the character it would probably be hard to say which one he is specifically copying, and easier to just say he is ripping of the joker character.

bigtplaystew

08-04-2011, 03:41 PM

I literally agree with everything you just said.

mike b

08-04-2011, 03:41 PM

Based on what little I've seen, it almost seems like Jack Nicholson's Joker in terms of personality, with Heath Ledger's Joker's look.

Bingo. That's exactly what i thought.

bigtplaystew

08-04-2011, 04:04 PM

Well Jack Nicholson's joker was just kinda Jack Nicholson lol... with a grin. Not feeling Jack Nicholson really myself but whatever.

bigtplaystew

08-04-2011, 09:14 PM

Good show tonight. Austin Aries!!

The Final Countdown

08-06-2011, 06:11 PM

20LEgend

08-06-2011, 06:40 PM

Am I the only one who thought it was ridiculous to see AJ lose to Devon in a singles match? I know there was the outside distraction with Daniels, a mini-injury and a quick rollup to end it, but still...

You are not it was ridiculous.

Looking at the current table:

(1) Crimson: 40 points (5-0-1-2) -- 8 matches
(2) Rob Van Dam: 35 points (5-1-0-0) -- 6 matches
(3) James Storm: 33 points (5-2-0-2) -- 9 matches
(4) Brother Devon: 30 points (4-5-1-0) -- 10 matches
(5t) Robert Roode: 28 points (4-2-0-5) -- 11 matches
(5t) Bully Ray: 28 points (4-6-0-0) -- 10 matches
(5t) Gunner: 28 points (4-10-0-0) -- 14 matches
(8) A.J. Styles: 21 points (3-5-0-0) -- 8 matches
(9) Scott Steiner: 14 points (2-5-0-0) -- 7 matches
(10) The Pope: 10 points (2-8-0-1) -- 11 matches
(11) Samoa Joe: -10 points (0-10-0-0) -- 10 matches

This series is not only unfair (e.g RVD has the most points per match) it's stupid D-Von Dudley has 40 more points than than Samoa Joe, I know it's an angle but still :(

Also, on the spin cycle Steiner was asked who he thinks will win he said himself of course, because he has "all the most points" He's third last :D

Hive

08-06-2011, 06:57 PM

Samoa Joe last, The Pope second last, AJ Styles third last... I'm beginning to suspect TNA of purposely trying their best to prevent me from watching their show.

Slagaholic

08-07-2011, 03:39 AM

Or it's August and Bound For Glory isn't until over 2 months from now.

mike b

08-07-2011, 04:53 AM

Thought this was funny and interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTSmRU3tkg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMy726EVpqk&feature=related

Heyman shoots on TNA

And to be fair here is cornett shooting on Heyman lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBGquOdk9P8&feature=related

ZMAN

08-07-2011, 06:38 PM

Damn, Crimson and D-Von must be really awesome to watch or something. Can't wait to see the best of crimson and best of dvon dvds

bigtplaystew

08-07-2011, 06:47 PM

Yea. I started getting into TNA because I wanted to see my favorite indy wrestlers play with the big boys, and in my opinion, they've done well. AJ, Joe, Daniels, and many many many others all look really good against some of the "big names" they have there.

They dont seems to want to use them as anything other than to make certain guys look good. I dunno. Hopefully they clean house with their writers and road agents and try to do something different.

I couldnt agree more with Heyman.

20LEgend

08-07-2011, 06:55 PM

I couldnt agree more with Heyman.

Just out of interested as Heyman said about keeping one legend (over 40) who would you have kept on, if anyone?

jwt13

08-07-2011, 06:58 PM

Just out of interested as Heyman said about keeping one legend (over 40) who would you have kept on, if anyone?

Kurt Angle, he's still the best wrestler in the world.

Also if anyone needs a stream PM me.

bigtplaystew

08-07-2011, 07:08 PM

I dont know who I'd get rid of and who I'd keep. I might not get rid of anyone but I certainly wouldnt use them the way they are being used in TNA.

I personally think there is obviously a place for established talent in wrestling. All of the hugest time periods were based in a good mix of established names putting asses in the seats while young talent was doing something new and fresh.

I'm not saying they should clean house and get rid of every "old" guy. Hogan and Flair have mostly been used to put their name attached to lesser known talent if you look at most of their time spent there.

But that Sting, Angle, RVD, Anderson, I guess now Bully Ray and guys like that are dominating the main event scene and it shouldnt be like that. It's not about age it's just that how can TNA ever really succeed and be a legitimate competitor to WWE if they just use talent WWE doesn't want to headline PPVS? What does that tell your fans?

If they were using creative writing and clever matchups AJ and Joe and guys like that should be in that top-level mix. They could be providing soemthing different and something special. In the end, WWE can produce and build new stars WAY better than TNA - which was supposed to be the younger and faster alternative.

20LEgend

08-07-2011, 08:17 PM

:eek: Nobody kicks out of the 5 star!

Self

08-08-2011, 03:16 AM

I'd be tempted to do exactly what Heyman says. Although admittedly that's not because I think it's 'right for business'. Rather it's just a show I'd rather see. I want to see fresh young guys with something to prove. Nostalgia acts are fun in small doses. Bring an over-40 in for a month or two as a novelty act. Permanent places on top of the card holds no interest for me.

Damn, Crimson and D-Von must be really awesome to watch or something. Can't wait to see the best of crimson and best of dvon dvds

Sometimes in sports, the most effective fighters/teams aren't the most exciting. Greece won the 2004 European Championships in Football with a solid, if unspectacular defensive strategy, locking out flashier teams like Portugal. Just because AJ & Joe are more exciting or 'better wrestlers' doesn't mean they should win.

lazorbeak

08-08-2011, 08:09 AM

I'd be tempted to do exactly what Heyman says. Although admittedly that's not because I think it's 'right for business'. Rather it's just a show I'd rather see. I want to see fresh young guys with something to prove. Nostalgia acts are fun in small doses. Bring an over-40 in for a month or two as a novelty act. Permanent places on top of the card holds no interest for me.

That's exactly why it's right for business. Using TV as a showcase for guys that can do things you're not allowed to do on WWE TV or weren't given a fair shot, instead of a "hey it's Raw from 8 years ago!" It just seems like common sense from a marketing standpoint to present an actual alternative.

JackKnifed72

08-08-2011, 09:17 PM

Personally I'd keep Flair as a heel manager...then rotate maybe Sting & Angle as 'part-time special attractions' (like Undertaker of recent years)...Sting because he's still a fairly big draw for them and Angle because he can still put on a good match

bigtplaystew

08-09-2011, 11:25 AM

Exactly. There is a place for older, eastablished talent that can still draw. That place is putting over and building up younger, fresher talent.

mike b

08-09-2011, 07:28 PM

OK Sooooooooooo

Is Angle turning heel..... yet again. I heard he beat Sting at PPV with help of Hogan and a steel chair

bigtplaystew

08-09-2011, 08:14 PM

It's really confusing. I doubt he's going with Immortal as that makes no sense. He's comming off of a great feud with JJ. He might go tweener maybe who knows?

Fantabulous

08-10-2011, 04:16 AM

Is Angle turning heel..... yet again. I heard he beat Sting at PPV with help of Hogan and a steel chair
Judging from the tapings, it's a heel turn. Plus...

At the Monday tapings, Mr Kennedy was beaten up by Immortal and is now a babyface after being a heel for all of a few weeks.

mike b

08-10-2011, 04:32 AM

Wow ok.

Fantabulous

08-10-2011, 04:36 AM

I'm only presuming the last part because it's the logical assumption based on what went down but logic easily gets thrown out the window in TNA.

Hive

08-10-2011, 05:12 AM

Personally I'd keep Flair as a heel manager...

I still think they dropped the ball on Flair managing AJ Styles as champion, I really liked that. It was the only time I liked Flair's work in TNA, pretty much. Having Hogan and Abyss of all people constantly knock them down did nothing good, nor did giving the belt to RVD the minute the stepped into the Impact Zone... *sigh*

JackKnifed72

08-10-2011, 11:17 AM

I still think they dropped the ball on Flair managing AJ Styles as champion, I really liked that. It was the only time I liked Flair's work in TNA, pretty much. Having Hogan and Abyss of all people constantly knock them down did nothing good, nor did giving the belt to RVD the minute the stepped into the Impact Zone... *sigh*

I agree, but TNA (as usual) blew that angle...however, I feel AJ is a natural "underdog babyface"...I'da paired up Flair with Matt Morgan personally...let them dominate for a few months, maybe let a couple of lower card guys act as flunkies to suck up popularity from running with Flair/Morgan...then set up feuds with underdog babyfaces like Styles, Angle or Beer Money

bigtplaystew

08-10-2011, 11:20 AM

Kazarian is a natural heel as well. Kaz the face has been dull in my opinion.

Teh_Showtime

08-11-2011, 08:25 PM

so is Anderson face again?

I.really don't get it

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 08:34 PM

so is Anderson face again?

I.really don't get it

I think Anderson is stuck in between. The faces don't like him and the heels don't like him.

It looks like we're going to see a split of Cookie and Robbie E.

Teh_Showtime

08-11-2011, 08:44 PM

Im not watching, just reading live reports. My Chargers are on haha

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 08:46 PM

Im not watching, just reading live reports. My Chargers are on haha

I completely understand. I'd be just taping it if my Panthers were playing.

You did miss Mickie James versus Madison Rayne, though. Two H O T Knockouts.

20LEgend

08-11-2011, 08:47 PM

I think Anderson is stuck in between. The faces don't like him and the heels don't like him.

It looks like we're going to see a split of Cookie and Robbie E.

Hopefully one or both drop the gimmick or at least move away from it? Could Cookie join the knockout division?

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 08:54 PM

Hopefully one or both drop the gimmick or at least move away from it? Could Cookie join the knockout division?

I agree and I wouldn't complain about Cookie joining the Knockout division. Though I haven't ever seen Becky Bayless work in the ring.

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 09:06 PM

Kurt Angle is now a part of Immortal? Guess he replaces Mr. Anderson?................Anderson?

20LEgend

08-11-2011, 09:14 PM

^ hmm, I don't like it. :( Now the non TNA workers have a match.

Teh_Showtime

08-11-2011, 09:16 PM

over/under a month before Angle is out of Immortal?

20LEgend

08-11-2011, 09:17 PM

2 months 4 days (maybe eight days.)

SaySo

08-11-2011, 09:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taNjPqI08vs

^Hulk Hogan new direction

20LEgend

08-11-2011, 09:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taNjPqI08vs

^Hulk Hogan new direction

I recall something similar to this about a year ago. I really can not stand Hogan. He is full of crap. Next few weeks? I've read the spoilers Hulk!

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 09:23 PM

How long before they change the name on the World title belt from TNA to Impact Wrestling? It's just...odd to me.

Teh_Showtime

08-11-2011, 09:26 PM

Well it seems like the belt can't stay in one place long enough to do so.

20LEgend

08-11-2011, 09:29 PM

What do we think about this? Something in the making?

From Crimson's twitter: "@Goldberg while you were gettin stretched by @IAmJericho I was dodging bullets for this country..." Goldberg's response?: "@OfficialCrimson Who are you again????" Later he wrote "OK people.......I haven't watched wrestling in a while and I have no clue who the new talent is......so please don't ask."

Following this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasUgdeZ_OI

Something could be in the making

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 09:38 PM

What do we think about this? Something in the making?

Following this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasUgdeZ_OI

Something could be in the making

I'm not sure Impact Wrestling is willing to shell out the money for Goldberg.

cappyboy

08-11-2011, 09:45 PM

Nor should they be if they want to put on a watchable product. Goldberg's time has come and gone. At this stage he should really stick to the TV guest spots and hosting car shows.

angeldelayette

08-11-2011, 09:51 PM

Zeel1

08-11-2011, 09:53 PM

Is it just me or is Matt Morgan saying he would die for a shot at a World title opportunity when he had to drop out due to injury fall a little funny/silly? Guess you wouldn't die for that opportunity, huh, Matt?

...Well, he didn't drop out by choice, did he? I wouldn't actually know if that's the case, but if you're not cleared to compete, there's not much you can do about it.

Warhawk8492

08-12-2011, 01:41 AM

If Angle stays in Immortal they might turn on Jeff Jarrett would not surprise me at all. Criticize this storyline as much as you want, I still like TNA better then crappy PG WWE.

TakerNGN74

08-12-2011, 01:48 AM

How long before they change the name on the World title belt from TNA to Impact Wrestling? It's just...odd to me.

I believe that the name of the company is still TNA but they changed their show name to Impact Wrestling. I could be wrong but there has to be a reason why all of the belts still say TNA on them otherwise they would have changed it. Heck when they revealed the new belt wasn't that after they changed the name of the show to Impact Wrestling therefore the new belt should have said Impact Wrestling on it but the new belt still says TNA. Also if that were the case why hasn't Adam changed the name of this thread from "The Official TNA Discussion Thread" Shouldn't it be The Official Impact Wrestling Discussion Thread?"

Also when they advertise there pay per views on screen it still says TNA and then the name of the pay per view so like I said I don't think they chnaged the name of the company just the TV show.

Warhawk8492

08-12-2011, 01:57 AM

I believe that the name of the company is still TNA but they changed their show name to Impact Wrestling. I could be wrong but there has to be a reason why all of the belts still say TNA on them otherwise they would have changed it. Heck when they revealed the new belt wasn't that after they changed the name of the show to Impact Wrestling therefore the new belt should have said Impact Wrestling on it but the new belt still says TNA. Also if that were the case why hasn't Adam changed the name of this thread from "The Official TNA Discussion Thread" Shouldn't it be The Official Impact Wrestling Discussion Thread?"

Also when they advertise there pay per views on screen it still says TNA and then the name of the pay per view so like I said I don't think they chnaged the name of the company just the TV show.

All they renamed was the TV show.

TakerNGN74

08-12-2011, 01:59 AM

Yeah thats the way it seems because like I said all the PPV posters still say TNA and the graphics at the end of PPV hype videos still say TNA plus all of their belts still say TNA so am almost postive that they just renamed the TV show which wasn't a small change I think they did it to have "Wrestling" in their name to shove it in their face because they did it right after World Wrestling Entertainment changed its name from that to just simply WWE.

Here is proof in an article that TNA is still the company name and Impact Wrestling is strictly the name of the TV show.

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/TNA/article10018279.shtml

Hive

08-12-2011, 04:26 AM

TheEffect

08-12-2011, 04:34 AM

I think Anderson & Kurt are heels :D

Teh_Showtime

08-12-2011, 06:13 AM

Anderson got kicked out of Immortal though

Self

08-12-2011, 06:30 AM

I wonder if anyone will actually boo Kurt. Isn't he at that 'legend' level where the crowd will like and appreciate him no matter what role he's playing? Like Sting.

Fleisch

08-12-2011, 06:35 AM

Wow, TNA switches worker allignments more often than most people switch socks... does anyone even know what guys like Mr. Anderson and Angle are these days? :eek:

Really, the only thing TNA lacks from making me completely give up on them atm is putting the title on Crimson... which doesn't seem very far off. :(

I gave up trying to work TNA out and just stopped watching in the end. Angle has been there 5 years and turned so many times it makes no difference anymore if he's a face or heel. Anderson in 18 months has switched back and forth so much it became stupid. No one turning heel or face in that company is a shock or surprise anymore and that is why they'll continue being an Indy Sports Entertainment promotion with high production costs, nothing more. I would say they're no more popular than ECW was in the 90's, but the product they offer is less entertaining.

Hive

08-12-2011, 06:37 AM

Anderson got kicked out of Immortal though

After being a member for how long, 1 month? I don't get TNA's crash booking.

Teh_Showtime

08-12-2011, 06:42 AM

yep him and Bully Ray had heat for like a week and had a match at Hardcore Justice.

20LEgend

08-12-2011, 07:03 AM

...Well, he didn't drop out by choice, did he? I wouldn't actually know if that's the case, but if you're not cleared to compete, there's not much you can do about it.

But Bobby Roode competed when he wasn't cleared I think

angeldelayette

08-18-2011, 08:13 PM

Some people may not like it but Sting versus Ric Flair? I'm excited!

Teh_Showtime

08-18-2011, 08:21 PM

I'm one of those people considering that it's painfully obvious that we will get Sting/Hogan very soon and possibly at B4G. This is what wrestling needs less of. More people who were old 10 years agn.

angeldelayette

08-18-2011, 08:47 PM

The X-Division gauntlet was decent for what it was. Though it was pretty obvious that Austin Aries was going to win.

jonlawson

08-18-2011, 08:50 PM

I liked Kid Kash getting that shot in though...

Teh_Showtime

08-18-2011, 08:52 PM

It's great to see him getting attention in TNA.

angeldelayette

08-18-2011, 09:07 PM

Mickie James can come on my tv anytime and I'll be a happy man!

Teh_Showtime

08-18-2011, 09:23 PM

If Jerry Lynn is gonna do this in every RVD match GTFO of my TV. Come on, man

angeldelayette

08-18-2011, 09:24 PM

If Jerry Lynn is gonna do this in every RVD match GTFO of my TV. Come on, man

Rob Van Dam versus Jerry Lynn...coming soon to an arena near you.

Teh_Showtime

08-18-2011, 09:27 PM

Rob Van Dam versus Jerry Lynn...coming soon to an arena near you.

For the first time this month...

angeldelayette

08-18-2011, 10:01 PM

Mexican America the new World Tag Team Champions? Le sigh.

Teh_Showtime

08-18-2011, 10:18 PM

R Truth was awesome in TNA. Just watched a promo exchange and match with Scott Hall. Those were the good days...

Hive

08-19-2011, 04:01 AM

Some people may not like it but Sting versus Ric Flair? I'm excited!

Meh, it can only dissapoint. Last time they faced off, in 2001, they were both too old to put on an interesting match... not to mention the fact that they had both reached the "I have to wear a t-shirt" stage of their careers. And now it's 10 years later.

I mean, if they insist on keep putting legends that really should just stay in retirement down our throats, at least give us something new and different... we've seen Sting vs. Flair. We've seen Sting vs. Hogan. We've seen Hogan vs. Flair. But what have we not seen EVER? Sting vs. Flair vs. Hogan. So why not just give us that, if you absolutely have to put those old geezers in matches? Maybe the added resting time in a 3-way would actually make them last more than 5 minutes as well then.

20LEgend

08-19-2011, 06:30 AM

I can't take Sting seriously as a main guy. He annoys me, if your crazy why do you reference that you've lost your mind. We can all make that assumption why must it be said? He was out of breath for a long time too :eek:

Lexa90

08-19-2011, 06:32 AM

R Truth was awesome in TNA. Just watched a promo exchange and match with Scott Hall. Those were the good days...

Yeah he was truly awesome. But IMO He's just as good or even better nowadays in the WWE :p

EDIT: Added IMO :P

hellboy2

08-19-2011, 04:06 PM

R Truth was awesome in TNA. Just watched a promo exchange and match with Scott Hall. Those were the good days...

is that the promo where he goes "i am the sun tanned superman" my mate is addicted to that video

jjohns44

08-19-2011, 05:11 PM

what the heck title does Jeff Jarrett have? What did he do, go to Mexico, fight in a match down there for a championship and win it?

Fantabulous

08-19-2011, 05:37 PM

what the heck title does Jeff Jarrett have? What did he do, go to Mexico, fight in a match down there for a championship and win it?

It's the AAA World Heavyweight Championship, so yes, he did go to Mexico, fight for the championship, and win it.

http://youtu.be/BNK4OCBzcXI

Zeel1

08-19-2011, 05:49 PM

I like that they censored it when Tenay tried to name it as the AAA Championship.

Doesn't seem very working agreement-y to be doing that... :p

Bull

08-19-2011, 05:53 PM

I like that they censored it when Tenay tried to name it as the AAA Championship.

Doesn't seem very working agreement-y to be doing that... :p

they also blurred the real title on tv when they showed jarrett winning it. The belt he is carrying around looks nothing like the real AAA title.

He is the actuall AAA champion though so I don't really understand why they are going to the trouble of editing it.

Carmichael

08-19-2011, 10:08 PM

actually thought it would have been a great episode of impact had they let styles and rvd have a proper match.

jjohns44

08-19-2011, 10:25 PM

last night i could swear they had a close up of the title and they had 'immortal' spelled wrong as 'inmortal'

BHK1978

08-20-2011, 01:53 AM

I know they are corny as all heck but I love the Eric Young segments. Next week looks great when he finally meets Chachi!

20LEgend

08-20-2011, 07:48 AM

SaySo

08-20-2011, 08:07 AM

last night i could swear they had a close up of the title and they had 'immortal' spelled wrong as 'inmortal'

From what I've heard, it's a sticker plate of some sort blocking the actual AAA title. So that's probably why it reads Immortal.

Jeff Jarrett referred to it as an Immortal Championship (or something close) a week or two ago. Or whatever the Impact after Hardcore Justice.

The Final Countdown

08-20-2011, 01:27 PM

Wasn't Angle saying green asses and I was brought in to make you a bit too real. I thought CM Punk comments never broke the legitimacy of wrestling, but Angle's did. Could what he said be taken any other way? Surely he was brought in to have good matches against his "enemies"? I may be seeing it wrong, can anyone explain what his comments in general mean in the context of wrestling [resented as being real?
From a kayfabe perspective, I guess you could say that competing against someone the caliber of Kurt Angle helped those "green asses" improve their skills, and his presence gave TNA more exposure that helped "make" these unknowns into television stars.

20LEgend

08-20-2011, 08:46 PM

Matt Hardy has been arrested for Drinking Whilst Intoxicated, apparently. Something wrong with the OMEGA guys :p

TMZ.com is reporting that TNA star Matt Hardy was arrested by a North Carolina State Highway Patrol trooper after having run his car off the road, striking a tree.Hardy, who was alone at the time, was not injured. The Trooper arrested Hardy after "observing signs of impairment". TMZ.com is reporting a blood test is pending and there was no contraband found in Hardy's car.

20LEgend

08-20-2011, 09:17 PM

Update: MATT HARDY FIRED!!!

In the wake of his arrest this afternoon for DWI, Matt Hardy has been released by TNA.
In a statement made to TMZ.com, an unnamed TNA Spokesperson commented, "TNA today released Impact Wrestling star Matt Hardy from its roster. Hardy was already under suspension from the company."

PWInsider.com has independently confirmed Hardy's release.

According to sources this evening, the original plan had been for Matt and Jeff Hardy to return to TNA storylines around Bound for Glory this October. Obviously, that is out the window. Jeff Hardy's status with the company is unchanged as TNA will be releasing a DVD on his career this Fall and have also licensed him out for several new products, including children's Halloween costumes.

Matt Hardy had been sent home from TNA this past June, with the official reason being excessive lateness to events, although it was believed that was a cover story and the real suspension was due to a video Hardy posted online that featured an inebriated Jeff Hardy and both Hardys using a Tazer on Matt's girlfriend, Lucha Libre USA's Reby Sky. Hardy never acknowledged he was suspended, instead stating publicly he was taking some time off.

Hardy joined TNA this past January after being released by WWE in October 2010 following a series of incidents that caused him to be sent home from a company tour of Europe. Hardy walked out of an event in White Plains, NY after officials voiced concern about his condition. During the European tour, Hardy's condition caused him to be sent home. When PWInsider.com broke the story, Hardy responded with a rambling video posted online claiming that the stories couldn't be true because he was still in Europe. He never wrestled for WWE again, being officially released several weeks later.

On August 19th, Hardy wrote on his Twitter account, "It's time for me to get back to a healthy, happy place, the transformation his now started for me, for us-(New Chapter Will begin new)"

Hive

08-21-2011, 05:09 AM

Are Matt and Jeff having some kind of sick contest to crown which one is the most messed up of the two?

Moe Hunter

08-21-2011, 06:13 AM

Matt Hardy has been arrested for Drinking Whilst Intoxicated

That's not really a crime in and of itself ;)

cappyboy

08-21-2011, 06:56 AM

Are Matt and Jeff having some kind of sick contest to crown which one is the most messed up of the two?

So it would seem. And it used to be my understanding Matt was the stable one. That part of why I so hated Jeff. I pitied Matt having to live with Jeff's vagaries. But last couple years or so it seems like Jeff's rubbed off on him rather than what you would hope would happen. Looks like I'm going to have to learn to be more accepting of Jeff professionally since my reason for favoring Matt is apparently out the window.

Way to go, Matt. Looks like I can quit following Mattitude now:(

20LEgend

08-21-2011, 06:58 AM

That's not really a crime in and of itself ;)

I was thinking of drunk driving and then the article said drinking :p

Imagine getting fired for drinking whilst being drunk :D

cappyboy

08-21-2011, 07:04 AM

I was thinking of drunk driving and then the article said drinking :p

Imagine getting fired for drinking whilst being drunk :D

That would be like the times we've fired guys in TEW over a particularly stinky fart. Most likely a case where you just needed that last excuse to fire him anyway.

jjohns44

08-21-2011, 10:16 AM

BHK1978

08-21-2011, 01:54 PM

they both seemed to be messed up when they were shooting on CM Punk at IHOP or whatever place that was. I wouldn't put it past him. It's a shame, for some reason Matt seems to think acting like a fool would get him somewhere. Where can he go now? Definitely not WWE, probably Ring of Honor though. He just needs to calm the hell down, they are both getting too old for the childish antics.

I am not sure if ROH would even touch him. Is he worth the trouble just to add some name value to your promotion?

I have never been a fan of either Hardy Boy so I am not sad to see them go. I hope that they clean up their acts and do something with their talent.

TNAfan123

08-21-2011, 01:59 PM

Jeff's still in TNA and im ready for him to come back!!

BHK1978

08-21-2011, 02:04 PM

Jeff's still in TNA and im ready for him to come back!!

Sorry about that I should have said him instead of them. It is just that Jeff has been off television for so long that I forgot he was still with the company.

20LEgend

08-21-2011, 02:38 PM

I am not sure if ROH would even touch him. Is he worth the trouble just to add some name value to your promotion?

I have never been a fan of either Hardy Boy so I am not sad to see them go. I hope that they clean up their acts and do something with their talent.

Most likely a rhetorical question but... No he certainly is not :). Disclaimer: This is of course In My Opinion :D

Zeel1

08-21-2011, 02:47 PM

I also have a sneaking suspicion that the ROH crowd may not take to him very well. They certainly didn't with Jeff all those years ago...

20LEgend

08-21-2011, 02:58 PM

I also have a sneaking suspicion that the ROH crowd may not take to him very well. They certainly didn't with Jeff all those years ago...

Ironically I just read on wiki that they chanted "We Want Matt!" & "You were fired". Now it would be the latter they chanted at Matt. Don't think he'd be welcomed

Teh_Showtime

08-21-2011, 04:01 PM

He has seen his brother really messed up all of this time and he doesn't learn. Even one of his best friends (Shane Helms) got into a serious motorcycle accident while driving drunk (was he?)

Fantabulous

08-21-2011, 04:08 PM

Even one of his best friends (Shane Helms) got into a serious motorcycle accident while driving drunk (was he?)

Yes, Helms was drinking and driving when he had his accident.

jjohns44

08-24-2011, 10:14 AM

Matt has been tweeting lately and posting up videos of a supposed ghost he has in his house. What is your take on this? Has he just been going further down the deep end or do you believe it?

www.youtube.com/MATTHARDYBRAND

Hive

08-24-2011, 10:24 AM

Yeah I watched a video of Matt chasing hist "ghost" with a revolver last week. I had a hard time deciding whether to laugh or whether to feel sorry for the guy.

BHK1978

08-24-2011, 04:13 PM

I just saw a video where he blames the "ghost" for everything that has been happening to him as of late. I wonder if Matt has gone insane due to too much drugs much like what happened to Syd Barrett.

Fantabulous

08-24-2011, 04:14 PM

Matt is a statistic waiting to happen.

20LEgend

08-24-2011, 04:15 PM

Now he's been hospitalized after falling at home.

Fantabulous

08-24-2011, 04:17 PM

Now he's been hospitalized after falling at home.

Falling off the wagon. In a big way. Now, let's settle down and watch the latest trainwreck begin.

BHK1978

08-24-2011, 04:17 PM

Now he's been hospitalized after falling at home.

Which is probably the fault of the ghost.:D

Hashasheen

08-24-2011, 04:19 PM

Which is probably the fault of the ghost.:D

You're joking, but I think he did make that claim.

Self

08-24-2011, 04:40 PM

God damn. He was my favourite wrestler for a solid 5 years. Hope he pulls it together.

bigtplaystew

08-24-2011, 05:19 PM

The ROH crowd in PHILLY would boo the crap out of Matt Hardy. But they'd still pay to see him. Just like with Jeff.

BHK1978

08-24-2011, 05:30 PM

The ROH crowd in PHILLY would boo the crap out of Matt Hardy. But they'd still pay to see him. Just like with Jeff.

Well who wouldn't Philly fans boo. They booed and threw ice balls at Santa Claus, they cheered when Michael Irvin had suffered a career ending injury, and they booed Mike Schmidt. That right there tells you everything you need to know about Philly fans.

dvdWarrior

08-24-2011, 05:34 PM

Well who wouldn't Philly fans boo. They booed and threw ice balls at Santa Claus, they cheered when Michael Irvin had suffered a career ending injury, and they booed Mike Schmidt. That right there tells you everything you need to know about Phill fans.

Don't forget the "You messed up!" chants when that guy from the Full Blooded Italians nearly killed himself with that suicide dive in ECW.

Oh, Mios Dio!

I'll never forget that one.

bigtplaystew

08-24-2011, 06:00 PM

Well who wouldn't Philly fans boo. They booed and threw ice balls at Santa Claus, they cheered when Michael Irvin had suffered a career ending injury, and they booed Mike Schmidt. That right there tells you everything you need to know about Philly fans.

well Santa Claus came out when the Eagles were getting destroyed so that's his stupid ass fault.

Micheal Irvin's injury and the cheering was a little tough to swallow, even I admit. But he had taunted philly fans for ages and they didn't know he was paralyzed. Although when Deon started doing the raindance next to him and they chanted "Deon's next"... seemed a bit more difficult to defend. That said, the philly fans are not the first people to cheer rival team's injuries and aren't the last.

Mike Schmidt, while probably the best thirdbasement ever, also was a jerk to people in Philly for years. He also would run down teamates to the papers and whatnot. The few times he did bother talking to the local media it was generally negative comments. He was kinda whiny. Nowadays, the man gets massive cheers whenever he shows up to events now and the city seems to love him so I think it's just a few negative people that want to remember philly as "booing" Mike Schmidt. He certainly wasn't booed when the team was doing well. you gotta understand how bad those owners were for a time and I think he took some of the brunt of it. However, that was kinda a very short period of time. We generally love the guy and what he did in the 80s for us.

Philly is a hardcore fanbase. They cheer people they like and boo the ones they don't. Ask Mick Foley about Philly and he says they are awful because of the "Cane Dewey" incident (another one-time thing but it sticks out to him obviously). Ask RVD or Taz about Philly and they remember us as one of the best wrestling cities int he entire world.

Typically, the ROH fans here are "good" fans. Thats why we run alot of indy promotions out of Philly. The problem with them, if there is one, is that they cheer EVERYONE, even the "bad guys" and thats why ROH stopped doing as many TV tapings in Philly. Kevin Kelly even hinted at it once on Monday Night Mayhem.

bigtplaystew

08-26-2011, 04:43 AM

I miss episodes here and there and Jersey Shore bbumped me catching the last half of this week's Impact, but am I missing something or where the hell is Kazarian?

cappyboy

08-26-2011, 09:20 AM

I miss episodes here and there and Jersey Shore bbumped me catching the last half of this week's Impact, but am I missing something or where the hell is Kazarian?

Sounds like he went where he belongs. The Land Of Boring People Who Should Never Be Televised.

20LEgend

08-26-2011, 09:30 AM

Not saying TNA are copying but not only is there an authority figure being seduced w/ innuendos (Long/ Bischoff & Aksana/ Brooks) . But then the guy who is against the authority making ridiculous demands (Punk/ Sting & Vince/ Hogan) :p

jesterx7769

08-26-2011, 09:31 AM

Watched two weeks ago for the first time in a year and remembered why I stopped watching.

WTF is with the Sting Joker thing? Awful! "Nervous?" give me a F'n break, AWFUL! And I thought we were all sick of Flair having strokes on TV? Seriously again WTF its just saaaaaaad to see him. JJ is still in charge and Hogan is still in charge, two of the things people have been complaining about forever. Crimson who is apparentley their next big home grown prodcut, sucked at his promo with his poorly dyed hair.

Positives: Like the BFG tournament idea and the X-division gauntlet. Nice to see Aries and Kid Kash back and Shelley is still around.

bigtplaystew

08-26-2011, 01:51 PM

Yea dude Joker Sting is borderline unwatchable for me. I flat out fast forward whenever he's on screen, which thankfully, has been a little less the past few weeks.

juggaloninjalee

08-26-2011, 02:23 PM

Last night was my first time watching TNA since February and that Sting is rediculous. Hogan rambles too which was obnoxious. That whole segment bugged me.

Why is Sting acting like this? What did I miss that led to this?

Bigpapa42

08-26-2011, 02:23 PM

I watched a full episode last night for the first time awhile. Still so much that bothers me. I doubt I can get back to watching regularly. I want TNA/Impact to do well and be "good"... but its just the same old problems....

Teh_Showtime

08-26-2011, 02:50 PM

I was a regular watcher for the last few months, it's been worse. Had to stop when Anderson got kicked out of Immortal after 2 weeks and turned...AGAIN.

Another AJ/Daniels match sounds good though.

bigtplaystew

08-26-2011, 03:04 PM

Sting went nuts cuz Dixie Carter got the company stole and Immortal kept screwing him. thats the short of it anyway. Why he's a blatant Joker rip off, cant tell ya.

20LEgend

08-26-2011, 03:38 PM

There has been a few instances where it has seemed as though Sting is in storyline putting on the craziness, to try and send Hogan over the edge.

Hashasheen

08-26-2011, 07:04 PM

There has been a few instances where it has seemed as though Sting is in storyline putting on the craziness, to try and send Hogan over the edge.

Pretty much this, IMO. I think it's been a rather entertaining gimmick for Sting, and if you try to look at it in a less biased fashion, they've been doing a good job of building talents and working with their limited television time on most storylines...

I've been enjoying TNA for the last couple of months.

bigtplaystew

08-27-2011, 12:10 AM

Pretty much this, IMO. I think it's been a rather entertaining gimmick for Sting, and if you try to look at it in a less biased fashion, they've been doing a good job of building talents and working with their limited television time on most storylines...

I've been enjoying TNA for the last couple of months.

Sir, you are allowed to have an opinion. I'm glad you enjoy Sting. It's a popular gimmick and it's getting over right now. But I find it difficult to watch. It literally makes me uncomfortable.

I'm an avid TNA fan and I used to be a huge Sting fan. I don't care for this current gimmick. That doesn't make me biased. I watched it a few times, saw where it went, and didn't like it. In general, I'm way more inclined to ENJOY wrestling rather than hate on it like some posters do. I am simply relating to another poster who also doesn't like the gimmick. I didn't say "Sting sucks!" or "he should retire" or any of the dumb crap I read sometimes. I'm not enjoying watching his current gimmick. So I don't boycott TNA or anything crazy... I just hit the fast forward button on my DVR and life is beautiful.

djthefunkchris

08-27-2011, 11:24 AM

Sting is going crazy 'til Hogan turns face, is what I gather. "Hogan won't stay under your spell forever Bischoff!"

Bassically, that's where I see it going.

1234

08-27-2011, 12:03 PM

Pretty much this, IMO. I think it's been a rather entertaining gimmick for Sting, and if you try to look at it in a less biased fashion, they've been doing a good job of building talents and working with their limited television time on most storylines...

I've been enjoying TNA for the last couple of months.

Sting has verged into one of those characters that makes me embarrased to be a wrestling fan. Its over the top and completely ridiculous. I have nothing against Sting, but how he was talked into this gimmick I will never understand.

And you can't say they have limited TV time, most promotions would kill for a 2 hour TV show, they just have a stupidly bloated roster. Lets take Raw, on their WWE roster page they list 32 wrestlers (this includes people like Curt Hawkins, Skip Sheffield and more people who haven't been seen in a long time (Im looking at you Goldust)). TNA have atleast that many Wrestlers they put on television on a regular basis, and then you have to factor in time given to Hogan, its ridiculous. TNA has 51 wrestlers listed on there roster.

I think its obvious to say if they cut back a bit and gave more focus to a smaller group of wrestlers the product could be a lot better.

Self

08-27-2011, 12:52 PM

Fantabulous

08-27-2011, 02:17 PM

Maybe it only feels limited because they keep trying to shoehorn all 51 of those wrestlers into their TV every week and are subsequently limited to a few minutes of screen for each wrestler per week.

cappyboy

08-27-2011, 03:15 PM

I wouldn't call TNA's television time 'limited' in the slightest. Just because WWE have a glut of television doesn't mean that's the norm, or even what's needed. WWE are the spoiled exception, not the rule. Promotions used to do fine with an hour a week. In fact, most folks in the business will tell you that 90 minutes a week is ideal.

Can't blame people for thinking that though. It's been 10 years since WCW fell and probably about fifteen since syndication was relevant. So think of all the new fans who came along in that window who've never seen an hourlong A show be viable. Most who came along in that window likely have never seen an indy that didn't distribute their shows through time-gulping DVD's. To them, TNA's television time probably does seem limited because the only consistent frame of reference for comparison they have had is the "spoiled exception" in WWE. That's part of why so many get so frustrated that TNA stays stuck in the same loop all the time.And a prime example of why the RoH/Sinclair relationship needs to work out. If it appears it takes a WWE to make a go of things on TV, all this these silly, limiting proscriptions will continue to be the conventional wisdom and things will just continue to suck for us, the fans. Especially those among us the fans who are on tight budgets.

bigtplaystew

08-28-2011, 01:46 PM

Maybe it only feels limited because they keep trying to shoehorn all 51 of those wrestlers into their TV every week and are subsequently limited to a few minutes of screen for each wrestler per week.

Gotta agree. Too many guys that they don't have enough faith in to build properly. TNA often sets up a storyline and makes us think we're looking at a long term storyline and they'll change it or cancel it. Or they'll crap all over it completely.

I like their matches and am still a fan of their product, but they have too many guys that get seemingly passed over. It comes off like messy booking to me personally. It also makes me feel like they dont have enough TV time to get everything done and get everyone the exposure they need to porperly get over.

Blackman

08-28-2011, 02:49 PM

Ya. TNA and character development is pretty awkward at best. They don't seem to have a clue that in order to get characters to be likeable, they need to have TV time, a resource that they have, but hesitate to use to their advantage.

GatorBait19

08-29-2011, 01:53 PM

So I have been catching up with Impact on Fios on Demand and I must say I love Stings character.

bigtplaystew

08-29-2011, 02:16 PM

GatorBait19

08-29-2011, 02:50 PM

Regarding Sting... to each his own. I can't stand it but I understand and acknowledge that it's popular and there's a large segment of intelligent wrestling fans that do like it. I just cant watch it without getting physically uncomfortable.

The thing for me is it just gives me a different look for sting. He has always (IMO) a good mic worker and this new style entertains me. How he beat Gunner up and then goes and gives him a pep talk just made me laugh.

haloed

08-29-2011, 05:17 PM

Regarding Sting... to each his own. I can't stand it but I understand and acknowledge that it's popular and there's a large segment of intelligent wrestling fans that do like it. I just cant watch it without getting physically uncomfortable.

To me the new Sting character has been pretty hit or miss. Some of it I really enjoy and some of it does kinda suck, but for me the good has outweighed the bad. I really liked the episode that Sting claimed to be the network rep.

Blackman

08-30-2011, 05:21 AM

Indeed. I must say I personally like it as well. Didn't follow it throughly, but the time with the clowns and Sting barging in during an Immortal meeting was kind of entertaining.

haloed

08-31-2011, 06:15 PM

Anyone ever catch that show on National Geographic that featured Xima Ion getting his ROH tryout? Pretty cool stuff. Jim Cornette really liked him and hearing about where Xima came from was interesting. Definitely makes me like him a lot more now.

JTandSilentBob

09-01-2011, 08:11 PM

Um...is TNA using piped boos and cheers? There was boos and cheers during the entire segment and nobody in the audience even had their mouths open.

20LEgend

09-01-2011, 08:12 PM

I'm pretty sure they do, I remember something similar last week.

angeldelayette

09-07-2011, 09:13 PM

Since I wasn't told that I needed to keep this a secret or anything...

You are looking at the winner of the TNA/Circle K Bound For Glory Fly Away Sweepstakes! So I will be headed to Bound For Glory in mid October!

JackKnifed72

09-07-2011, 09:48 PM

Um...is TNA using piped boos and cheers? There was boos and cheers during the entire segment and nobody in the audience even had their mouths open.

I noticed since they "rebranded" or whatever as "Impact Wrestling" whoever does their sound is horrible. Sounds as if they cut the crowd noise when a worker is on the mic, then boost the volume inbetween the workers speaking. Creates the effect of "piped" background noises. As an amatuer musician/producer/engineer I have to say it makes them appear "bush league"...then again so does their storylines...and The Hardy Boyz circa 2011 but still... :D

BHK1978

09-08-2011, 01:47 AM

20LEgend

09-08-2011, 02:28 AM

Exactly this piped sound has been going on for some time now. I do not recall exactly when it started but I noticed it as well.

I always wondered if D-Von's family sits in their seats for the entire show or are they just brought out there for segments with either him or the Pope. They never seem to show a good angle of that section before or after a D-Von segment.

I think they leave after Pope / Devon matches and before I remember reading
someone say they give there seats up to actual fans after the matches from those two in a sarcastic tone so I think they only stay for those bits, which is mad.

Mr.Macho

09-08-2011, 01:45 PM

Jeff Hardy heading to jail!
http://thesmarkreport.com/2011/09/huge-news-jeff-hardy-going-to-jail-pleads-guilty/

alphadraighon

09-08-2011, 01:52 PM

Jeff Hardy heading to jail!
http://thesmarkreport.com/2011/09/huge-news-jeff-hardy-going-to-jail-pleads-guilty/

He got off pretty easy, all things considered. I know people who've served more time for getting caught with a half ounce of pot.

angeldelayette

09-08-2011, 08:10 PM

So does Mr. Anderson want his fricking rematch? :D

angeldelayette

09-08-2011, 08:15 PM

Jobbers introduction for British Invasion.

Basmat01

09-11-2011, 08:30 AM

Am I the only one that really enjoys TNA Spin Cycle web show?

20LEgend

09-11-2011, 08:51 AM

Am I the only one that really enjoys TNA Spin Cycle web show?

No you are not it is excellent. Particularly the one with Kendrick, RVD, Mickie and Doug Williams, it has lost a bit of it's charm since Lethal is no longer there to heckle. Shelley, Magnus, Sabin were all awesome on it. One thing I find awkward is when people are trying to stick to heel characters in it, but other than that it's awesome.

Hashasheen

09-11-2011, 09:32 AM

Am I the only one that really enjoys TNA Spin Cycle web show?

God no. Xplosion is generally so much better than NXT or Superstars. (Though Superstars is usually superior in match content)

angeldelayette

09-12-2011, 03:03 PM

Sorry. I am just so excited that I have to post this.

Yes, that's me headed to Bound For Glory! (http://www.impactwrestling.com/news/item/2975-IMPACT-WRESTLING-and-Circle-K-announce-the-winner-of-the-TNA-BFG-Sweepstakes)

1234

09-12-2011, 03:21 PM

angeldelayette

09-12-2011, 03:27 PM

Wow, congratulations :).

You lucky b...:p

Thanks! This is such an amazing opportunity. I am still floored about it! Kurt Angle vs. Bobby Roode for the World title, Sting vs. Hulk Hogan (most likely). Some other matches I am hoping for include Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn, AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels, Winter vs. Velvet Sky (would love to be there to witness Velvet's first Knockouts title win) and so much more! I am way overly excited about this. lol.

TheEffect

09-12-2011, 04:25 PM

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/quicknews/article_53216.shtml

Well Done Hulk, Now Your #1 Champion Hates You.

sheepy

09-12-2011, 04:34 PM

Thanks! This is such an amazing opportunity. I am still floored about it! Kurt Angle vs. Bobby Roode for the World title, Sting vs. Hulk Hogan (most likely). Some other matches I am hoping for include Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn, AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels, Winter vs. Velvet Sky (would love to be there to witness Velvet's first Knockouts title win) and so much more! I am way overly excited about this. lol.

Have to say, having watched Sky since her debut seeing her win the knockouts title would be a mark out moment.

She ain't great but she's come a hell of a way to be pulling off headscissor takedowns.

Early BP are one of the best tag teams of recent years.

TracyBrooksFan

09-12-2011, 04:42 PM

Thanks! This is such an amazing opportunity. I am still floored about it! Kurt Angle vs. Bobby Roode for the World title, Sting vs. Hulk Hogan (most likely). Some other matches I am hoping for include Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn, AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels, Winter vs. Velvet Sky (would love to be there to witness Velvet's first Knockouts title win) and so much more! I am way overly excited about this. lol.

for the knockouts i believe it will be a three way or four way match for the title because i doubt TNA would leave Mickie off the card. She is the biggest KO name they have.

Magic

09-14-2011, 11:55 AM

sheepy

09-14-2011, 05:13 PM

While I like Roode as a tag team wrestler, reading Roode wins the BFGS and gets a title shot at Bound for Glory just seems like a let down to me. Sure I have no doubt they can put on an ok match but to have it be for the world title at B.F.G. just does not make me want to run out and buy it.

Yeah, he's been touted for so long as a future star it feels like they missed the boat (truthfully I never really saw it and always figured Matt Morgan was the big thing - no idea why they didn't pull the trigger as him to be the catalyst behind taking apart the MEM).

I could deal with Roode but it would need to be at the end of a long running feud, not a tournament with a one off match against Angle.

Best thing for him would be if he loses controversially starting a year long feud with Angle over the title culminating in him winning it at the 2012 BFG. That's the kind of story you need to take a guy like Roode to the next level and make him a bonafide star.

JackKnifed72

09-16-2011, 01:07 PM

So last night TNA Impact Wrestling Thunder from Disney Orlando Studios or whatever it's called aired what was meant to be an "epic encounter" between Sting & Ric Flair...and on a forum full of die hard wrestling fanatics, not a single comment about it here...ouch

So since I rarely get a chance to watch TNA, heres a few random thoughts from last night's show, the first I've seen in months...

- Let's get this out of the way....It wasn't all that bad really

- Missed the first half of the show, turned it on during Velvet vs Love...If AC Slater got implants, he'd look like Angelina Love

- Velvet Sky actually took the time to learn how to wrestle...I applaud her

- Jeff Hardy should not be anywhere near a TV show until he's tested clean for 6 months minimum...10 days in jail? If he was poor it's be atleast 3 to 5 years

- While I generally think "shoot" promos and insider angles do more harm than good long term to pro wrestling, both Devon and (especially) AJ Styles cut great promos on the Hardy situation

- OK, I know it's their job to talk and call the matches but seriously, @Taz & Tenay...STFU!! Now and then, just for a few seconds...just...shhhhhhhhh...breath...there ya go

- I'm almost positive that TNA is piping in background crowd noises...'course couldn't tell for sure...since Taz and Tenay talked constantanly for the entire show!!!

- Should he main event Bound For Glory? IDK maybe not...but Bobby Roode is a very good wrestler and had he a very good match with Kaz

- Can't tell if Sting is imitating Heath Ledger as the Joker or Jim Carrey as the Riddler...either way it's creepy...in both a good way and a bad way

- No Mexican America or Jeff Jarret or Abyss = :D:D:D:D:D

- Ok so it's probably about four years late, but Matt Morgan vs Samoa Joe could be a great feud if done properly...that being said TNA will F**** it up somehow

- Ric Flair + still wrestling = :(

Really, just let it go before you have a heart attack in that ring

Of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong

Self

09-16-2011, 02:11 PM

Yeah, he's been touted for so long as a future star it feels like they missed the boat (truthfully I never really saw it and always figured Matt Morgan was the big thing - no idea why they didn't pull the trigger as him to be the catalyst behind taking apart the MEM).

I could deal with Roode but it would need to be at the end of a long running feud, not a tournament with a one off match against Angle.

Best thing for him would be if he loses controversially starting a year long feud with Angle over the title culminating in him winning it at the 2012 BFG. That's the kind of story you need to take a guy like Roode to the next level and make him a bonafide star.

Seems both too early and too late for Roode to me. Too late because Beer Money were a lot hotter a year ago, and by all accounts should had been working main event programs as a team for the past year. Too early because Roode still hasn't found the extra piece of character Storm possesses, and hasn't received a strong enough push to counteract it.

I love Roode. Great in the ring. Hopefully this is the start of big things.

Still would have pushed Storm over him though.

20LEgend

09-16-2011, 02:32 PM

I watched the match and it didn't feel all that big in the way it was executed. Commercial may have been necessary but I didn't like that. Match itself wasn't too bad, but I hate Impact Zone crowds, they rarely get into it (I also believe sounded is artificially added) really thought it could have been better, I knew what to expect in the ring, but ten years since their last match "so much" at stake it just wasn't presented well enough IMO, I may be in the minority though.

OctoberRaven

09-17-2011, 01:03 AM

- Can't tell if Sting is imitating Heath Ledger as the Joker or Jim Carrey as the Riddler...either way it's creepy...in both a good way and a bad way

He's trying to be Heath Ledger, coming off as Caesar Romero, and sometimes going too wacky and going straight into Bugs Bunny territory.

I liked Flair/Sting. Best TV match this year save Miz/Morrison... from the first show of this year. Not sure if that says more about Flair and Sting or about the current generation of WWE and TNA workers.

Jaysin

09-17-2011, 02:40 PM

Sting and Flair put on a better match than I was expecting. I knew Sting still has some gas in his engine, but Flair...well, I wasn't expecting him to be able to still go at all. I enjoyed it a lot.

Timber

09-18-2011, 02:51 AM

Ric Flair could wrestle a broomstick for an hour and be more entertaining than most of the roster. He can still go in the ring, not as good as he used to be but he still puts the effort into his matches.

I'm so tired of Hogan though. Sting v Hogan, why? I can see the drama of them cutting promo's on each other, they both are good on the mic, but a real in ring match. Sting can still wrestle but Hogan is so busted up with injuries that it'll just be an overbooked piece of crap. I'm not sure where Hogan's Ego is at but i can't really see him putting over Sting. I'm sure that Sting will win but it'll be tainted and unsatisfying.

I am looking forward to Angle and Roode. That should be a good match. I hope that Roode loses and we get a longer feud for him and Angle. I hate run ins and interferences for no reason but on this i could see EB causing a DQ or a tainted win. I'd be happy for a long set up between Beer Money and Angle and his buddies.

I miss the old Knockout division. Matches with Gail Kim and Kong. They really missed out by getting rid of Scott De'more(i believe that was the trainer for the ladies.) The matches aren't as good nor are the angles. Please get Karen Jarret off my tv please.... pretty please.

I agree that Jeff Hardy needed to sit for a few more months. I do hope that he's really changed. I do like Jeff, he's got talent. If he kicks his demons and refocuses on wrestling i think he could be at the top again, either in TNA or in the WWE. The drug thing is a built in gimmick.

I was gonna say something about the tag team champs, but i forgot who they are. That's not good.

I miss Eric Young as the head of the Global Elite(think that was the name) I like him with a stable of guys from other countries and promotions. Silly Eric has it's moments but i liked him better in a suit with the British Invasion and co backing him up.

OctoberRaven

09-18-2011, 05:27 AM

Hey now. Eric Young's encounter with Scott Baio is a certified five star technical masterpiece. :p

As far as Jeff Hardy goes... I could do without him in TNA or WWE. Never liked him in the first place.

Flair can still go, but I don't want to see him wrestle full time again at his age. If he does, it should be with the really young talent to help put them over.

EDIT- Also, the current tag champs are Mexican America. The team so bad, they unfurl a flag in front of part of the crowd so a lucky few don't have to see them wrestle.

juggaloninjalee

09-23-2011, 01:03 PM

So I watched a little bit of TNA last night. I have to say I liked what I saw. Fortune is a major storyline with AJ vs Christopher Daniels. Bobby Roode, and James Storm being main eventers basically.

TNA seems to be trying to deliver what the fans want. Maybe Bischoff learned in WCW that he needed to develope new stars and is applying it here.

I am not saying that TNA is great or even close to WWE because they aren't but I see a lot of improvement over the product that they put out 6 months after Hogan and Bischoff joined TNA.

angeldelayette

09-29-2011, 08:30 PM

Brian Kendrick versus Austin Aries is a bit of a disappointment. I was hoping Alex Shelley would win the match with Kid Kash having an outside chance.

Teh_Showtime

09-29-2011, 08:45 PM

I also was hoping for Shelley.

That ladder match was so SLOW to me though. And the selling and spots seemed off. Like Shelly waiting a while on the ladder before Kid Kash would get him.

angeldelayette

09-29-2011, 09:14 PM

I also was hoping for Shelley.

That ladder match was so SLOW to me though. And the selling and spots seemed off. Like Shelly waiting a while on the ladder before Kid Kash would get him.

I agree that the ladder match looked slightly slow to me.

Samoa Joe vs. Matt Morgan vs. Crimson at Bound For Glory? I'm good with it!

TakerNGN74

09-29-2011, 11:33 PM

I thought that the show as a whole tonight was pretty good, I don't normally watch Impact because I am usually not home on Thursdays but since it was on I thought I would give it a shot. To tell you the truth the show wasn't all that bad, the only thing that I really didn't like about it was the match between Madison Rayne and Tara because they involved the referee way to much and it took a lot away from the match. Other than that I enjoyed the show which is a first from me since TNA doesn't do a lot of things that make sense in my eyes.

On another note I am glad to see that they are finally pushing younger talent especially now that Bischoff and Hogan are leaving it gives the younger guys a great chance to shine once again. A lot of people might not like Robert Roode getting a title shot at Bound For Glory but I am okay with it because they actually are pushing a guy that deserves it for once.

bigtplaystew

09-30-2011, 05:28 AM

juggaloninjalee

09-30-2011, 06:37 AM

I agree. The show was decent tonight. If they got rid of joker sting I'd watch from front to back every week again.

I'm happy to see Roode get the shot, but I think it was a mistake. They look at Bound for Glory like "their Wrestlemania" and, to me, it would have made more sense and gotten better buyrates with a more familiar name going up against Kurt Angle. RVD would have been ideal but whatever. I'm happy for Roode and I hope he wins the title. The dude's fantastic and has great charisma so if they end up putting the belt on him, I think long-term it could actually be the right move. We'll just have to see I guess.

I liked the show as well. Love how they are establishing Roode as a credible main eventer. I also dislike joker Sting. I am thinking after BFG he will resort back to his crow Sting self though.

I disagree about RVD vs Angle. Angle will make Roode look good at BFG. That will be seen as the highlight of Roodes career if he wins the title for the 1st time over Angle at BFG.

BFG is looking like a good card. AJ vs Daniels, Roode vs Angle, Sting vs Hogan (novelty match), Joe vs Crimson, and Austin Aries vs Brian Kendrick. Those are all going to be entertaining matches.

Hogan saying that this is it and that he will be done with wrestling was good except for Sting ruining it.

bigtplaystew

09-30-2011, 07:06 AM

I liked the show as well. Love how they are establishing Roode as a credible main eventer. I also dislike joker Sting. I am thinking after BFG he will resort back to his crow Sting self though.

I disagree about RVD vs Angle. Angle will make Roode look good at BFG. That will be seen as the highlight of Roodes career if he wins the title for the 1st time over Angle at BFG.

BFG is looking like a good card. AJ vs Daniels, Roode vs Angle, Sting vs Hogan (novelty match), Joe vs Crimson, and Austin Aries vs Brian Kendrick. Those are all going to be entertaining matches.

Hogan saying that this is it and that he will be done with wrestling was good except for Sting ruining it.

Yea my only reasoning for saying it was a bad idea was because of buyrate and mainstrema interest. Personally, I'm happy they did it. I feel like it would have been better for the PPV to go with a big name. They instead chose to do the slightly less profitable yet way more creative decision of elevating robert roode as a new face in the main event picture. I'm happy that they did it.

juggaloninjalee

09-30-2011, 07:21 AM

Yea my only reasoning for saying it was a bad idea was because of buyrate and mainstrema interest. Personally, I'm happy they did it. I feel like it would have been better for the PPV to go with a big name. They instead chose to do the slightly less profitable yet way more creative decision of elevating robert roode as a new face in the main event picture. I'm happy that they did it.

Your reasoning for a big name makes sense but I don't feel like RVD is a big name really. RVD was one of my favorite wrestlers from 96-2003 too. I wanted him to win the WWE title for that whole time.

He never was a big name if you ask me. They treat Mr. Anderson as a big name and I don't he is either. The biggest names TNA has are Angle, Sting, Jarrett, Scott Steiner, and Jeff Hardy I think. Angle, Sting, and Hardy are the only real draws out of those I feel though.

juggaloninjalee

09-30-2011, 07:23 AM

bigtplaystew

09-30-2011, 01:51 PM

Your reasoning for a big name makes sense but I don't feel like RVD is a big name really. RVD was one of my favorite wrestlers from 96-2003 too. I wanted him to win the WWE title for that whole time.

He never was a big name if you ask me. They treat Mr. Anderson as a big name and I don't he is either. The biggest names TNA has are Angle, Sting, Jarrett, Scott Steiner, and Jeff Hardy I think. Angle, Sting, and Hardy are the only real draws out of those I feel though.

I would say that a main event in 2011 with RVD draws better than one with scott steiner or jeff jarrett, but why bicker over such petty things?

I like RVD and he has gotten over everywhere he's been. I also like Roode alot and I think he and Angle are going to have a fantastic match at BFG.

juggaloninjalee

09-30-2011, 01:55 PM

I would say that a main event in 2011 with RVD draws better than one with scott steiner or jeff jarrett, but why bicker over such petty things?

I like RVD and he has gotten over everywhere he's been. I also like Roode alot and I think he and Angle are going to have a fantastic match at BFG.

I am not trying to bicker. Just stating my own opinion. I think we both agree Angle and Roode will put on a great match and we are both looking forward to it.

Stennick

09-30-2011, 02:46 PM

Bobby Roode has charisma? I honestly don't know anything about Bobby Roode's character. At one time he was rich or something but they don't even reference that other than "I need my beer and he needs his money" or something like that.

To me James Storm is the charasmatic one of the group and their over as a tag team for the same reason America's Most Wanted was. There are very few every day tag teams in either promotion that if you give a tag team like that a main event like push, with a decent gimmick they're going to be hailed as great. I think Bobby Roode is pretty bland and boring. James Storm has enough character to be on his own but drinking cowboy isn't enough to main event either they need to add more to it.

With Bobby Roode they kind of just said "here you go" they didn't push him the entire tournament. The entire tournament had two stories. Joe losing and Crimson winning. They should have had Crimson and Joe face off in the finals with Crimson beating Joe or Joe ending the streak whatever and went from there. Instead its like "oh yeah we kind of ignored Roode the whole tournament and just gave him random wins and now he's in the biggest match of our year".

Now instead of saying ok we got Roode lets build him up over the next five weeks as a sympathetic underdog to Angle instead they got him wrestling members of Fortune. If this was a build to a regular ppv then fine but you need something a bit more epic other than all his friends saying he'll be world champion.

I checked out of this show a long time ago. I was most interested in this show in March of last year with Pope, Lethal, Wolfe, Fortune, RVD, Jeff Hardy all getting involved in the main event scene and it felt like they were building to something. Now their top heel faction is full of nobody mid carders and their top "guy" outside of Sting and Hogan is clearly Anderson who switches between face, heel, super heel, every week or so. I guess they're doing stuff with the X Division and once again they're wasting AJ Styles. This guy should always be the focus, he should be their John Cena. I'm not saying he's got the mic skills Cena has (although Cena tells jokes that four year olds laugh at its not like he's selling ppv's to adults anyway). But the guys in ring originality and his in ring charisma set him apart. He's proven several times if you hand him a mic he's more than comfortable with it. Although instead of him being the focus of the shows we got Hogan, Sting, Anderson, Bully Ray and others. While he wrestles Daniels in a match that'll be good but thats why we got the X Division for "good" matches. We've seen Daniels/AJ how many times? I'll go watch in 2005 when they did that match with a better storyline when it involved the undefeated Joe.

BHK1978

10-02-2011, 02:27 AM

To tell you the truth the show wasn't all that bad, the only thing that I really didn't like about it was the match between Madison Rayne and Tara because they involved the referee way to much and it took a lot away from the match.

That was the whole point of the match though, she was using her feminine wiles on Earl to get an advantage in the match.

I liked the show as well. Love how they are establishing Roode as a credible main eventer. I also dislike joker Sting. I am thinking after BFG he will resort back to his crow Sting self though.

I am not even a fan of Crow Sting either. I liked the original Sting when he was a member of The Police...oh wait...when he was Surfer Sting.

TakerNGN74

10-02-2011, 04:36 PM

That was the whole point of the match though, she was using her feminine wiles on Earl to get an advantage in the match.

I don't care what the point of a match was because in the end it still sucked donkey ass.

Bull

10-06-2011, 03:42 PM

According to SEScoops TNA has finally removed Vince Russo as their head writer. He hasn't been fired but he has been demoted.

Vladamire Dracos

10-06-2011, 04:15 PM

According to SEScoops TNA has finally removed Vince Russo as their head writer. He hasn't been fired but he has been demoted.

Replaced by Bruce "Brother Love" Prichard from what I read.

Jaysin

10-06-2011, 04:18 PM

He's still head writer from what I read, only difference is Pritchard has final say now.

Slagaholic

10-06-2011, 05:49 PM

As long as SOMEONE has final say. Russo has alot of good ideas and he's definitely become a better storyline writer but when he's left to his own devices you get chaos and everything collapses on itself in time. He's a very good bricklayer but a very poor architect.

Bigpapa42

10-06-2011, 06:20 PM

This kinda confuses me then, since I always thought Hogan and Bischoff had final say on creative direction over Russo...?

I was always under the impression that the last time we saw Russo as the guy making all the calls was in late '09, right before Hogan and Bischoff came in. Which was, in my opinion, one of TNA's best periods...

angeldelayette

10-06-2011, 08:26 PM

Beer Money opened the show with what I thought was a very good promo between the two of them.

Gunner was vicious on Kazarian and Kazarian's selling of the broken arm was good.

Slagaholic

10-06-2011, 10:03 PM

djthefunkchris

10-06-2011, 10:41 PM

Didn't catch the whole show just caught the end of Storm-Roode which wasn't the greatest match and the ending was weird as per usual. That last segment however was perfect. 5 minutes was all it needed to be. And that's all it was. Hogan's little kid "oh ****!" face was hilarious

I have to agree with that. It looked almost genuine, and the whole thing was pretty much done to perfection by both him and Sting.

I have to say, I really found the "video" entertaining.

juggaloninjalee

10-07-2011, 10:53 AM

Jaysin

10-07-2011, 01:38 PM

I really disliked how they did the fake retirement thing. What if people did spend tons of money to see Hogan one last time in Knoxville and then to see that? Don't you think that would leave a bad taste in their mouths? If that happened to me I would be so put off by TNA.

Now really looking forward to life in TNA without Russo as the head writer. Apparently Bruce Prichard is the new head writer. What do you guys think of that? Is he good?

Russo is still head writer, Pritchard just has final say of what actually gets used. The places I've read about this whole thing is that Pritchard is a politician backstage majorly. So hopefully that doesn't really happen.

Russo's biggest issue is having no one to filter through his crap to find the good. So hopefully, Prichard can at least do that.

bigtplaystew

10-07-2011, 01:50 PM

Roode vs Storm was a great "classic" style wrestling match. Wouldn't call it 5 stars but they did some great storytelling in the ring.

juggaloninjalee

10-07-2011, 01:52 PM

Russo is still head writer, Pritchard just has final say of what actually gets used. The places I've read about this whole thing is that Pritchard is a politician backstage majorly. So hopefully that doesn't really happen.

Russo's biggest issue is having no one to filter through his crap to find the good. So hopefully, Prichard can at least do that.

Oh maybe I misunderstood their titles. I like how they have built the Roode vs Angle match and hope to see more things like that. They are working hard to put Roode over and I think it has benefited James Storm as well.

I just hope they continue doing what they have the last few months.

angeldelayette

10-12-2011, 05:08 PM

Color me excited, but we are just a couple of days away from the beginning of the TNA/Impact Wrestling Fan Interaction, which I will be a part of in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania! I will definitely be taking pictures and getting autographs and the like! Won the trip to Philly and hotel room and Bound For Glory tickets free in a contest thanks to TNA/Impact Wrestling and Circle K Southeast!

juggaloninjalee

10-13-2011, 06:44 AM

sabataged

10-13-2011, 12:25 PM

I remember when this thread had more posts in it then the WWE one...TNA interest has really went down hill

juggaloninjalee

10-13-2011, 12:32 PM

I remember when this thread had more posts in it then the WWE one...TNA interest has really went down hill

I don't post as much here because there is less discussion in this thread now. My interest in TNA has gone up in the last year espescially lately. I really feel like they are doing things well right now. BFG should be good.

Rone Rivendale

10-13-2011, 04:36 PM

As shallow as it sounds, my future interest in TNA is going to hinge on whether or not they do the right thing and allow Roode to win the World title.

bigtplaystew

10-13-2011, 06:49 PM

I don't post as much here because there is less discussion in this thread now. My interest in TNA has gone up in the last year espescially lately. I really feel like they are doing things well right now. BFG should be good.

Holy crap. You actually like wrestling?? I didnt think your kind still existed.

:-)

Its easy to look a the things TNA does wrong and try to say that's allt he company does. But they actually have good wrestling on a two hour show. Yea you gotta sit through Hogan and Sting's BS. But there are top quality TV matches.

I thought Roode and Storm last week was an incredible piece of in-ring storytelling that isn't all that common anymore.

Slagaholic

10-13-2011, 07:01 PM

I'll be going as long as I can drag one of my friends to go with me.

bigtplaystew

10-13-2011, 07:03 PM

I'll be going as long as I can drag one of my friends to go with me.

You in philly? The show is like $13 or soemthing just to get in the door. I'm going as long as I don't have to work.

Wrestling Century

10-13-2011, 07:03 PM

bigtplaystew

10-13-2011, 07:20 PM

Quite honestly, I stopped watching TNA because I haven't ever seen an above average storyline from them. The large majority of their storylines are awful. Although I think that the matches and (most of) the wrestlers are excellent, the storylines are unbearable (sp?) for me. I finally stopped watching TNA when the majority of the matches were getting mixed up with the stories. That was always one of my main complaints with TNA throughout the entire two and a half years that I watched it. But it became much, much worse once Hogan and crew joined TNA. Now I haven't watched it for 5 months.

No accounting for taste. But I like what they've done with Angle/Roode. I like the stories around that feud with Roode and his relationship with Fourtune.

I like Austin Aries and Kendrick. I mean I could go on and talk about the stories and feuds going on that I think are o.k. But I can't lie and sit here and say it's grounbreaking stuff. I cant argue that a large variety of their storylines are mediocre.

They have had Vince Russo as head writer though, the absolute master of coming up with a story he has no clue how to get out of. Maybe under Pritchard we'll see better stuff.

I do dig the matches for the most part though.

Jaysin

10-13-2011, 08:21 PM

bigtplaystew

10-13-2011, 10:34 PM

Lol Jaysin. Agree 110%.

Huge A-double fan.

sheepy

10-14-2011, 04:03 AM

Having gone off TNA for the past 5 months or so (however long it took for "they" to turn out to be Hogan) I'm slowly getting back into it.

Angle vs. Roode has been built really well.
Kendrick vs. Aries is another I'm looking forward to
The Knockouts four way should be fun (especially if it ends with Velvet winning the match)
Sting vs. Hogan is a good story and has my interest - they can both tell a good story in the ring and assuming Hogan has some mobility left could be a good match.

The other matches all long like they could easily be very watchable on paper
Crimson vs. Joe vs. Morgan
Lynn vs. RVD
Bully Ray vs. Anderson
Styles vs. Daniels

The only problem is there's only really one must see match of Angle vs Roode, all the others are interesting but only the world title match is going to sell the PPV. TNA really needs to be able to put 2/3 of these must see matches on it's main PPV of the year.

angeldelayette

10-14-2011, 08:24 PM

Up close and personal, So Cal Val is one of the most Beautiful and sweet women that I have ever met. I think I'm in Love! lol.

20LEgend

10-15-2011, 04:21 AM

Austin Aries is kind of an unsung hero in wrestling right now. His stuff is topnotch and he's outright entertaining AND fantastic in the ring.

When he's in a match, he's telling a great story and hitting some great spots and also doing some really funny stuff.

He may just be the greatest man on the planet.

I agree. His selling is so good, it's really unique. I've noticed he doesn't just fall conveniently he'll fall into the ropes and bounce back or just crash through them onto the outside in a realistic way. In fact, his overall ring style is really unique.

And his "Shhhh" is much better than when Big Zeke did it.

Jaysin

10-15-2011, 06:18 PM

Haven't done this in awhile sooooo

BFG Predictions:

Mexican America vs Ink Inc- Choosing them for a couple reasons really. The rumors going around that Hernandez's contract is up. Also, I love Shannon Moore and Christina Von Eerie is hot :p

Crimson vs Matt Morgan vs Samoa Joe- He's lost leading up to BFG so I expect him to win here and then continue the feud.

AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels- Not sure why, just expecting it.

Austin Aries(c) vs Brian Kendrick- A Double is amazing.

Mr Anderson vs Bully Ray- This one could go either way, but I've got a feeling Anderson wins.

RVD vs Jerry Lynn- Should be really fun, and it'd be nice for them to actually give TNA fans a reason to take Jerry Lynn seriously.

Winter(c) vs Velvet Sky vs Mickie James vs Madison Rayne- I'm hoping for Velvet to win, but I'd be way more than ok if Rayne some how got the win, but I doubt she will considering she's been made a C level Knockout after losing the belt.

Sting vs Hulk Hogan- Sting wins and Dixie gets control back...or as much as I love TNA, Sting wins and becomes an insane president of the company...I hope I'm wrong :p

Kurt Angle(c) vs Bobby Roode- Roode's push has been fantastic and one of the strongest things TNA has done in awhile.

BFG has really solid potential to be one of TNA's best shows this year. Hopefully it's not bogged down by their usual screwy finishes and billion interferences.

Fantabulous

10-16-2011, 04:39 PM

Crimson vs Matt Morgan vs Samoa Joe

Surely, Joe can get his first PPV win since February?

AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels

The feud has just started and they'll want to save the big swerve for the main event

Austin Aries(c) vs Brian Kendrick

There will be tons of big spots, some barebones psychology, and some clueless putz will proclaim this match and the whole card as having a higher quality of wrestling than Vengeance.

Mr Anderson vs Bully Ray

So the feud keeps going and culminates in a completely regular match

RVD vs Jerry Lynn

Lynn's role will be what it always is in his matches with RVD; provide the psychology and lose.

Sting vs Hulk Hogan

Even in his current state, Hogan isn't doing el jobski.

Kurt Angle(c) vs Bobby Roode

Logic and all common sense says Roode wins the title tonight. So I'm picking Angle, because it's the TNA way.

20LEgend

10-16-2011, 05:18 PM

Crimson
AJ Styles
Austin Aries(c)
Mr. Anderson
RVD
Sting
Bobby Roode
Mexican America

BHK1978

10-16-2011, 05:31 PM

I would think that Crimson almost has to win his match just in order to keep the streak intact. What would be the point of the streak if he were to lose the match?

20LEgend

10-16-2011, 05:33 PM

I would think that Crimson almost has to win his match just in order to keep the streak intact. What would be the point of the streak if he loses?

Only way is if they had Morgan take the fall (or Joe) but that still tarnishes the streak IMO, so I agree.

That made me think, does anyone know what happened / is happening with the "Xplosion Championship Tournament"?

Jaysin

10-16-2011, 05:38 PM

Only way is if they had Morgan take the fall (or Joe) but that still tarnishes the streak IMO, so I agree.

That made me think, does anyone know what happened / is happening with the "Xplosion Championship Tournament"?

Joe lost a triple threat match and didn't take the fall, but they still said he was undefeated.

20LEgend

10-16-2011, 05:46 PM

Joe lost a triple threat match and didn't take the fall, but they still said he was undefeated.

That's what I was saying they could do but to me the streak hasn't been that great to me and although they could still say he's undefeated (because in a way he is) it kinda takes a bit away from it in my eyes to say in a match with Joe and Morgan one of the others could beat the guy before Crimson could. For him to look unstoppable I'd have to book him to get the win if it was me. :)

Jaysin

10-16-2011, 07:05 PM

Ughhh...Mexican't Wrestle retained the tag titles...I guess that means we're stuck with them in company...So awful.

matthew222

10-16-2011, 08:03 PM

Well Aries Retained which is good and RVD Beat Lynn and then Crimson won which was a surprise for me

Anderson beat Bully Ray

Velvet Sky won the Knockout title after Karen was bumped and Traci made the pin

Styles gets the win on Daniels but I think the feud will continue after this

Jarrett is now coming down to the ring

DaMegaFish

10-16-2011, 09:36 PM

I don't watch TNA on a weekly basis. I barely follow them anymore. I knew BFG was coming, and I knew Sting vs. Hogan was on the card. I hardly knew the baackstory, other than Hogan and Bischoffs heel faction has been in a grudge with Sting. That's what I went in to this with.

Now that that is cleared, I wanted to see Sting vs. Hogan just to see how TNA would work it. I must say, I am absolutely impressed with how that match played out. Hogan and Sting proved that you don't have to be the best physically to put on a very entertaining match. Granted, it was a giant overbook by every definition, but it worked. Hogan and Sting worked the crowd perfectly.

I'm sure some people will disagree, but this match was easily one of my favorite pro wrestling moments in recent memory. I'm not sure if I'm more surprised by my previous statement, or by the fact it was pulled off by TNA. Well done.

Edit-And then the main event happened. The match was basically two holds with a ton of rolling around to see how many different ways you can get back to that hold. Boring. Terrible finish on it also. Way to waste the whole build up of Roode from the Bound For Glory series.

I hate this company.