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shipshirt
11-23-2009, 12:25 PM
I would love to see some kind of added weight given to the PPV/Monthly Show rating in the overall promotion. The way it's set up now, there really is no benefit for holding off on your big matches for the ppv. It's almost better to have the better shows be the TV shows because, more often than not, they are seen by a wider audience.
Maybe in tandem, TV shows could be weighted a little less, so you can go the route of having squash matches/promo heavy shows (especially for DOTT and CVERSE75 mods).
I'm sure, to some younger fans, this is a foreign concept as they are used to all main event wrestlers all the time on TV shows...but some of us old dudes like to slow down the pace a bit ;)
praguepride
11-23-2009, 12:42 PM
Non-main event scene on TV!? :eek:
Seriously though, it's not that foreign of a concept, just that with the modern spread of technology, PPV's aren't what they used to be. As you described, TV is seen by a wider audience
Grimmas
11-23-2009, 01:46 PM
Thats the thing with any mod set before 1995. Before then, there was no main events on tv. Heck no big matches on TV at all, they were basically all B shows.
TeemuFoundation
11-23-2009, 01:51 PM
Non-main event scene on TV!? :eek:
What are you babbling about? When was this?
Phantom Stranger
11-24-2009, 11:46 AM
Joking aside, this sounds like something you could totally adjust for using Eras.
olympia
11-27-2009, 02:44 PM
Thats the thing with any mod set before 1995. Before then, there was no main events on tv. Heck no big matches on TV at all, they were basically all B shows.
not entirely true. Mid-Atlantic often ran big matches on tv. Ole & Gene Anderson world tag team title win over Paul Jones and Wahoo McDaniel (the famous sacrifice angle). Flair vs Brisco for the world title. etc.
but you are right, for the most part the TV matches were a star vs a jobber. and the tv main event was usually a main event/upper midcard star vs a midcard up and comer.
shipshirt
11-27-2009, 04:38 PM
not entirely true. Mid-Atlantic often ran big matches on tv. Ole & Gene Anderson world tag team title win over Paul Jones and Wahoo McDaniel (the famous sacrifice angle). Flair vs Brisco for the world title. etc.
but you are right, for the most part the TV matches were a star vs a jobber. and the tv main event was usually a main event/upper midcard star vs a midcard up and comer.
Exactly. Memphis, Georgia, World class would all run big matches. It would just be cool to not have to run ppv main events on TV just to stay afloat popularity wise.
As for it being different now...yes and no. Nowadays ppvs just fill the same role as the monthly house shows did in the past, except now it's one big show that everyone can see at once instead of taking it around the horn
Dragonmack
11-27-2009, 05:06 PM
of course, more times than not, those matches would get cut off before the end was given as the tv time would run out. I remember seeing that several times on big title matches which would run the last 15-20 minutes of the tv show, but the matches themselves were stuff taped from house shows and would run 30 min or more. So you'd see the start and middle, but get gipped out of the ending.
shipshirt
11-27-2009, 06:40 PM
of course, more times than not, those matches would get cut off before the end was given as the tv time would run out. I remember seeing that several times on big title matches which would run the last 15-20 minutes of the tv show, but the matches themselves were stuff taped from house shows and would run 30 min or more. So you'd see the start and middle, but get gipped out of the ending.
Haha, yup. Because, going back to my original point, the house show or pay per view was the important thing and you'd have to pay to see it. This comment is mostly pertaining to historical mods like DOTT and Cverse75. Although, I would love it if modern day wrestling got back to this a little bit too to make the ppvs actually seem special
SasoreGatame
11-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Thats the thing with any mod set before 1995. Before then, there was no main events on tv. Heck no big matches on TV at all, they were basically all B shows.
Pretty rash, uninformed statement (as others have pointed out). WWF may have been jobber vs. star matches, but I mean, look at all of this stuff pre-1995.
From Monday Night RAW: 1-2-3 Kid vs. Bret Hart from 1994, Shawn vs. Razor from 1994, Crush vs. Bret from 1994, Perfect vs. Flair from 1993, Crush vs. Yokozuna from 1993, Jannetty vs. Michaels from 1993, 1-2-3 Kid vs. Owen Hart from 1994, Headshrinkers vs. Quebecers from 1994, Jannetty and 1-2-3 Kid vs. Quebecers from 1994.
Hell, they had Razor/Diesel and Dudes with Attitudes vs. Headshrinkers on SUPERSTARS for the love of God.
And even going back to 1990-1991: DiBiase vs. Roberts on Prime Time Wrestling in 1990, Demolition vs. LOD in 1991, Texas Tornado vs. Mr. Perfect from 1991, Ultimate Warrior vs. Smash from 1991, Savage vs. IRS from 1992, Bret vs. Flair from 1992, Bret vs. Virgil from 1992.
And there's a ton more, these were just off the top of my head.
That being said, I'd like to see the way they used to do TV tapings (They'd tape 10-15 matches in one night, decide which show they'd go on, then the rest were either thrown to the side or put onto a home video, then they'd recycle the matches/segments from SuperStars/Challenge on Prime Time with some extra footage thrown in), because it's damn near impossible to play old WWF in TEW.
Wrestling Century
12-12-2009, 03:25 PM
The reason for putting your better matches on PPV is because if you advance book it, you could potentially get more PPV buys.
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