HYPE: Cornellverse 1997 (CV97)

[Derek B]

As I'm sure you all know, I've been working on an update to the CV97 throughout the development of TEW2010. Being on the development team is pretty handy for such things, especially as it gave me a good excuse to test out the long term stabilty of the game as I was going and to see if I could break the editor. :)

Anywho, this is mostly an update to let you all know that it's coming soon. I'm going to be playing the game a fair bit myself over the coming months but the mod is mostly complete already. I've balanced out many stats based on the 2008 data so all I'm doing is adding new workers and teams, which I have already started on. So...

STILL TO DO

- Add new workers (less than 400 to go) and relevant tag teams/alter egos/relationships for them

ESTIMATED RELEASE DATE: First quarter of 2010

[FlameSnoopy]

Yay for this! CV97 is a great mod, even though I preferred CV75, but had an excellent tournament based European fed that was really fun to book and all. Still, looking forward for this!

[foolinc]

If you need someone to test your mod, I'm your man.

[The Celt]

I think Derek_B is right to do CV97 first. It's going to take far less time than CV70s will because so many of the workers are the same as the default, whereas CV70s Derek has to do so, so, so many workers.

When CV97 comes out we'll get a lot of play out of that while Derek can then take as long as he needs to do CV70s.

[FlameSnoopy]

I think Derek_B is right to do CV97 first. It's going to take far less time than CV70s will because so many of the workers are the same as the default, whereas CV70s Derek has to do so, so, so many workers.

When CV97 comes out we'll get a lot of play out of that while Derek can then take as long as he needs to do CV70s.

I didn't know Derek contributed to the CV75.. Have I missed something :confused:

[The Celt]

I thought it was him and Mr.T jobs to me doing it togther...but know thinking about it I could well be wrong

[Blackman]

Yes. I loved this mod and will play it again if I could.

Though I'd love to see a 2001 or 2003 mod instead. :D

[PeterHilton]

I thought it was him and Mr.T jobs to me doing it togther...but know thinking about it I could well be wrong

Yeah..wrong.

Mr T, SadisticBlessings and I primarily did the 75 mod way back for TEW07.

I'm jealous that derek got a head start, but I'm dying to see how he incorprates the new features (so we can put them to use when the 7os mod comes out)

[Oregano Jensen]

Interesting... so the '97 mod isn't moving forward to '99?

(

[Stennick]

Why would it move to 99?

[Derek B]

Always good to hear that people are interested in the mod, it's received a lot of love since the last iteration and has advanced (in terms of awesomeness) while not advancing at all (same start date).

Just for the record, I have nothing to do with the 70s Cverse. I've stolen many of their ideas and the team behind their awesome mod has stolen many of mine, with mutual permission of course. I'm looking forward to an update of the 70s mod and a new 80s mod one day too. And I know that several people have plans to use 97 as a base for other mods too, so I'm hoping to make it the best yet. Which it should be. :)

As for other mods... you never know where 1997 could lead, the possibilites are endless and the ideas are always there in my head waiting for me to stop being lazy and do them. :D

[SeanMcFly]

Why would it move to 99?

It's a joke

[praguepride]

This needs to be released ASAP! I'm burning through the modern c-verse promotions at an alarming rate at only 1 month of play per...

[benjacko]

Seeing this thread is nudging me to finally get the 86 mod to at least a beta stage with the imminent release of TEW10 tomorrow :)

[Jaded]

Seconding the post someone else made about "If you need someone to test it..."

Really looking forward to this one. :)

[Tempest Kane]

Would love to be part of the test crew if the chance presents its self, that said im 100% excited for this, cant wait for more of the earlier historical db's to come, i assume thats a massive task now that we can finaly have era's and ageing pictures, playing SWF over multiple decades into its current form historicaly is going to be win mode.

[Derek B]

I likely won't have much or even anyone on a testing team. Since the mod hasn't changed time frame at all that means that most people are at about the same position as they have always been. And since I know the data worked well within TEW08, I also know it works well within TEW2010.

Having said that, there will be some testing to make sure everything works as planned and I might give some people a shot at trying it out before I do a full release. Don't PM me though cos my inbox is full of mafia game related stuff, just post here in the thread. :)

And for a quick update, I've currently got all the new workers from A-F completed. Might manage another couple of letters tonight... perhaps Y, since it doesn't have anyone. :p

[aznblusuazn]

I likely won't have much or even anyone on a testing team. Since the mod hasn't changed time frame at all that means that most people are at about the same position as they have always been. And since I know the data worked well within TEW08, I also know it works well within TEW2010.

Having said that, there will be some testing to make sure everything works as planned and I might give some people a shot at trying it out before I do a full release. Don't PM me though cos my inbox is full of mafia game related stuff, just post here in the thread. :)

And for a quick update, I've currently got all the new workers from A-F completed. Might manage another couple of letters tonight... perhaps Y, since it doesn't have anyone. :p

I'll be happy to volunteer to test as I'm highly anticipating this mod to built the Allenverse from it! ;)

[paulskln]

Seeing this thread is nudging me to finally get the 86 mod to at least a beta stage with the imminent release of TEW10 tomorrow :)

you need a big nudge and a half you posted the hype thread in october 2008!!!

[d_w_w]

Consider me hyped.

Of course, this creates a dilemma for me: if I start a diary (maybe a 50% chance), will I use the Cverse, C97, or Over 9000?

Poop.

[praguepride]

So, any updates? I'm hypin' out over here :D

[Derek B]

So, any updates? I'm hypin' out over here :D

Yes, I managed to get all of "Y" done last night after several painstaking hours of work. :p

And by time I go to work in about half an hour, I'll have also finished "G" and "H". :)

EDIT: "I" completed too...

[randomfreeze]

Just wanted to say I loved this on '08 and can't wait to try it out over here. I'm interesed to see if any retconning happened as a result of '10. Keep up the good work man.

[Derek B]

Just wanted to say I loved this on '08 and can't wait to try it out over here. I'm interesed to see if any retconning happened as a result of '10. Keep up the good work man.

Every new update to the Cornellverse throws up some retcon work that needs to be done. Several guys have had their situations changed as a result of some of those changes and I've also edited some people around a bit to be better fits... and added some history/backstory for existing workers based on observations and stuff. It turns out that GCG took a huge hit when both PGHW and HGC formed, which is unfortunate for them but fun for the mod. :)

For those of you wanting status updates I've only got a handful of letters to go. M, N, P, R, S and T. Of course, that's still between 150-180 workers to go, but that does mean I'm way ahead of schedule in terms of getting stuff done. Testing shouldn't take long since most of the stats are already balanced in previous testing... I just need to make a few decisions based on some other bits and pieces and who knows, this could easily be ready within a few weeks. :D

[praguepride]

Nice! Can't wait to see how Awesome AMW has become :D

Don't forget to ask Kam about the totally awesome logo & banner he made in his 2008 thread.

[Waghlon]

Im wondering, will this version hold the possibility of Nemesis actually going to DAVE? Unlike 2008 where he most of the time just sat there as a free agent and looked menacing...

Also, would you mind if i lived out that one thing ive been wanting to do with this mod since many months ago: Make a Cverse 98 set in August so you get all the SOTBPW, UCR, DAVE and SCCW goodness that came in the first 8 months of the year?

[aznblusuazn]

Any update?

[Derek B]

Any update?

Nope. :p

I've taken a few days to actually play the game for a change... it's good to be playing a game where I'm not always looking for bugs to fix. Haven't updated anything for a couple of days but I'll be doing a fair amount tomorrow to make up for it. Got to punish my own laziness. :)

[Stennick]

This must come out Derek :)

[Kamchatka]

Are any logos missing from the data at the moment?

[Derek B]

Are any logos missing from the data at the moment?

I think I may send you a PM at some point in the next few minutes.... :cool:

[aznblusuazn]

How is this coming? Thanks.

[Derek B]

How is this coming? Thanks.

It's only been a couple.. wait, a few... wow, time flies! :eek:

All workers added, just need to tweak some business/owner stats and add a European promotion for the data to be complete. Rough betas should be out tomorrow to everyone who seems desperate to get their hands on one... and the full release shouldn't be more than about a week away, assuming I don't suddenly end up with tons more real life stuff on my doorstep. May have a new job starting soon, so I'm making it a priority to get this done before then as I have no desire to try mixing the two things at the same time. :)

[shipshirt]

Really excited about this mod derek!

[aznblusuazn]

It's only been a couple.. wait, a few... wow, time flies! :eek:

All workers added, just need to tweak some business/owner stats and add a European promotion for the data to be complete. Rough betas should be out tomorrow to everyone who seems desperate to get their hands on one... and the full release shouldn't be more than about a week away, assuming I don't suddenly end up with tons more real life stuff on my doorstep. May have a new job starting soon, so I'm making it a priority to get this done before then as I have no desire to try mixing the two things at the same time. :)

Cool. I understand. I have a business I run, full time job, wife, two kids... Somewhere I find time to play TEW lmao.

I'm looking forward to the CV97! Thanks for you contribution!

[The Celt]

Im wondering, will this version hold the possibility of Nemesis actually going to DAVE? Unlike 2008 where he most of the time just sat there as a free agent and looked menacing...


I edited mine so that Nemesis started as DAVE's booker, just to make it historically right in the long run. I mean he's basically DAVE booker one or two months after leaving SWF so...

[Comradebot]

Woot!

Can't wait to whip out XFW again. I love that little crazy company...

Not to mention, it'll give me yet another shot to turn Blackjack Robbins into a superstar!

Maybe get him and BSS back together to reform the team of Smackjack... or was it Blacksmack? Either way, they were rocking.

[Stennick]

Woot!

Can't wait to whip out XFW again. I love that little crazy company...

Not to mention, it'll give me yet another shot to turn Blackjack Robbins into a superstar!

Maybe get him and BSS back together to reform the team of Smackjack... or was it Blacksmack? Either way, they were rocking.

SmackJack sounds better

[Comradebot]

SmackJack sounds better

Yeah, BlackSmack makes them sound like racists.

Then again, I wouldn't put it past XFW to have a storyline involving them delivering a White Powerbomb to Grandmaster Phunk through a table....

[The Celt]

Jerome Turner: Hold on Hold on! Here comes the Negro Wrestling Alliance to make the save!!!! Wow, those boys can jump...

[Comradebot]

Jerome Turner: Hold on Hold on! Here comes the Negro Wrestling Alliance to make the save!!!! Wow, those boys can jump...

I'd have to think BlackSmack would be doubly hateful of Jerome Turner...

I mean, aren't most racist also homophobic?

I figure they'd hate everyone who isn't a white christian male.

[The Celt]

BSS: Shaddup you Dirty Commie **** Gay-Sexual! You're got to be more than White and Christian to satisfy BlackSmack!

[Blackman]

w00t!

back to teh '90s baby

[Derek B]

Today's update consists of me grumbling that I've seen more business and booking stats than I could ever have hoped to use. I'm so glad I got Adam to add the "can be owner" and "can be booker" tickboxes, it woulda beena nightmare otherwise. :)

So, all workers have been looked through... the last thing I should really do with workers is play with personalities again thanks to the conservative-liberal attribute. I've done some work on it but it's a pain to edit so many personalities. Tomorrow will see Europe get it's new promotion... then on with the testing. :D

[Tempest Kane]

Dont feel rushed mate, we would all much rather wait months for this to come out the right way than to have you stress out and rush the roll out.

[The Masked Orange]

Dont feel rushed mate, we would all much rather wait months for this to come out the right way than to have you stress out and rush the roll out.

I hope you speak for the minority. Quite frankly if Derek doesn't have a relapse then he hasn't put enough effort into it. :mad:


:D

[Derek B]

Dont feel rushed mate, we would all much rather wait months for this to come out the right way than to have you stress out and rush the roll out.

I hope you speak for the minority. Quite frankly if Derek doesn't have a relapse then he hasn't put enough effort into it. :mad:


:D

Only pressure I'm feeling is coming from me, I don't care about the rest of you. :p

Seriously, I'm hopefully starting a new full time job soon (haven't heard back from them yet) so I'm aiming to get the mod finished before then. There will be little bits like move sets that aren't going to be complete, but since they are fluff I don't really care about them.

In case no-one has noticed, I'm also doing a diary game for TEW just now... so it's not like I'm giving every last minute of my time to hurrying this along. :p

[TEWFan]

What? You dare have a life outside of this mod? What the hell are we paying you for?













Oh right....we don't pay you. :rolleyes:

[Blackman]

Someone pay him, damnit!

[Waghlon]

*tosses 10 scottish dollars after him*

They will be worth real money one day!

[aznblusuazn]

derek_b - Do you have a PayPal account? If so, PM me. :)

[Derek B]

derek_b - Do you have a PayPal account? If so, PM me. :)

I do, but I won't. I'm not in it for the money, as cool as that would be. Money creates pressure and obligations, neither of which I have or want. :p

European promotion added and ready to go, first test sim coming up tonight with a second year tomorrow morning. Should be fun to watch, since it'll all be nicely balanced. Fun times. :D

[The Masked Orange]

*tosses 10 scottish dollars after him*

They will be worth real money one day!

I'm confused. :confused:

[Waghlon]

I'm confused. :confused:

See, to go off topic once and for all, once Canada invades Scotland...

[Jaded]

I do, but I won't. I'm not in it for the money, as cool as that would be. Money creates pressure and obligations, neither of which I have or want. :p

Dammit, Derek, does that mean I can't even bribe you to retcon a 5 year SWF World title run for Peter Valentine?!

[Comradebot]

Arrrgh, the wait for this is starting to eat away at me!

XFW and a new European company I have absolutely no knowledge about?

C'mon!

[Blackman]

Damn it man. I still haven't played TEW because I am waiting for this.

Throw me a frickin' bone here :p

[The Masked Orange]

I find it funny that 1997 has changed so drastically in two years. :)

[Derek B]

I find it funny that 1997 has changed so drastically in two years. :)

It's mostly the future that has changed, though there have been some changes to the present... timelines are confusing. :p

Game is definitely playing out nicely just now, though it's not quite finished. I've got some tinkering to do with future workers with the conservative-liberal trait and some narratives to tweak. So for anyone I promised early betas to, or information or anything like that... fire a PM my way and I'll dliver on request. I deleted all my old messages having now cleared out my PM box following the mafia game, so I've forgotten who you all are. And I have a terrible memory.

Working beta available on request, come get it while it's hot mod-makers. :)

[Comradebot]

So...

I just totally saw what derek_b added to a certain worker's bio.

Thank you.

[aznblusuazn]

It's mostly the future that has changed, though there have been some changes to the present... timelines are confusing. :p

Game is definitely playing out nicely just now, though it's not quite finished. I've got some tinkering to do with future workers with the conservative-liberal trait and some narratives to tweak. So for anyone I promised early betas to, or information or anything like that... fire a PM my way and I'll dliver on request. I deleted all my old messages having now cleared out my PM box following the mafia game, so I've forgotten who you all are. And I have a terrible memory.

Working beta available on request, come get it while it's hot mod-makers. :)

THANK YOU! :D

[Blackman]

Thanks. Is it normal that there are generic workers debuting in februari (even when it's turned off)? :p

[Derek B]

Thanks. Is it normal that there are generic workers debuting in februari (even when it's turned off)? :p

I'm guessing they're non-wrestlers, the AI will automatically fill up non-wrestling roles that are short in any game area even if you have generation set to off.

Which reminds me... while there's obviously no need to have worker generation on, I recommend to play with it on low in the CV97. I like having dojos that do stuff, and I'd hate to have the option of making a dojo while knowing it won't generate people. :)

[Blackman]

Nope it's on 'off', and they are indeed wrestlers. But no problem really since they are neglectable.

[Comradebot]

So...

I can't seem to find any information on this, figure you're the expert, I'll ask here...

Where, exactly, is XFW located?

Obviously PPPW is located in Pennsylvania, and I have a gut feeling that DAVE is too (since, you know, it IS ECW)... which would make it seem awfully crowded if XFW was in the same state too. Obviously with RPW somewhere in the Mid-Atlantic, they don't have to be THAT close together for the East Coast Wars to be going down...

And NYCW is in NYC, obviously, but aren't actively participating sooo...

Jersey?

Could I be able to make a diary called "Kevin Smith Does XFW?"

Jersey almost seems to make too much sense...

[The Celt]

Eh, I always thought of XFW as being in New York but to be honest I think it doesn't have to be stated, because then it can be left up to the imagination.

[Liamo]

I always assumed New York too for some reason.

[aznblusuazn]

I too pictured XFW in New York. Jersey could work.

[The Celt]

I think New York just seemed like a logical choice because it's so big you're definitely going to get at least some fans to show up. Business sense ya know? Plus I can definitely see XFW in a venue similar to the Ministry

[Blackman]

When's the real thing going to be released? Else I'm just starting a long-term game already. :pI guess everything seems ok about the data. I still have the worker pics from last year I guess.

[Derek B]

When's the real thing going to be released? Else I'm just starting a long-term game already. :pI guess everything seems ok about the data. I still have the worker pics from last year I guess.

I'm still busying away on little background things and actually playing TEW too. Levelling minor stats for debuting workers like respect and tweaking overness... changing liberal/conservative biases... little things to make the long term actually work out since most workers are still in the middle and that would make long term games kinda lame for some kinds of promotion.

No fixed release date... I'm not rushing anything and I'm doing other bits and pieces too. Will almost certainly be February sometime though, but I'm not gonna guarantee anything. :)

[TNAfever]

hi derek, good news! :cool:

can you tease us some changes/additions to the game world? will there be new workers? new starting promotions? altered promotions?

I think Europe & Australia lacked a promotion starting in 97, since, if i remember correctly, there were plenty of workers who could work only in one of these areas so they were practically useless, since the first european fed appears in mid 98 and in Australia around 2000-2001

[The Celt]

So I've been playing SWF in 97 (the 08 version), really fun stuff.

I think SWF is a lot more interesting in 97' then it is today. Just look at the roster

-Bruce the Giant
-Sean McFly
-Christian Faith
-Sam Keith
-Mr.Supreme (Whose quite fun)
-Jim Force!
-No Way Jose (It's nice to have an Eddie Guerrero around)
-Tommy Cornell of course
-Rory McCallum (A good sub for Rowdy Roddy Pipper :) )
-Black Hat Bailey
-Enforcer Roberts (Eisen's Supremacists of Bailey, Enforcer and Brent Hill against guys like Faith and Force I find really fun)


Good stuff. Reminds me of Attitude era RAW.

[Nedew]

Good thing you've got a bit more time on your hands now your mafia time is over eh derek? Eh? ;)

[Comradebot]

So I've been playing SWF in 97 (the 08 version), really fun stuff.

I think SWF is a lot more interesting in 97' then it is today. Just look at the roster

-Bruce the Giant
-Sean McFly
-Christian Faith
-Sam Keith
-Mr.Supreme (Whose quite fun)
-Jim Force!
-No Way Jose (It's nice to have an Eddie Guerrero around)
-Tommy Cornell of course
-Rory McCallum (A good sub for Rowdy Roddy Pipper :) )
-Black Hat Bailey
-Enforcer Roberts (Eisen's Supremacists of Bailey, Enforcer and Brent Hill against guys like Faith and Force I find really fun)


Good stuff. Reminds me of Attitude era RAW.

I think that'd be the idea, no?

And at this point HGC is middish 90s WCW, as they've taken a bunch of over the hill superstars from SWF in order to give themselves instant star quality.

HGC is twelve times cooler than TCW. TCW sucks.

[The Masked Orange]

I wanna pway. :mad:


Worth the wait though I bet. :)

[The Celt]

To be fair to HGC only Dusty Streets, Rip Chord, Sam Strong, Larry Vessey and The Demons of Rage are over the hill. Peter Valentine, Mr. Lucha and Dread still have fuel in the tank and BLZ Bubb, Bryan Vessey, RDJ, Liberty are all under 30.

Yeah I guess I was stating the obvious with SWF being WWE.

Mhhh, and I wonder...does this mean that TCW are NWA posers?

EDIT: Just to come back to the age thing...you'd better be careful when you throw that around

SWF's Champion Sam Keith is 36, and it's upper card is made up of The Lords of War (late 30s), The Perfect Storm (early 40s), Sid Streets (40), Rory "I'm not Roddy Pipper" McCallum (37), No Way Jose (35), Cheatin Mike Barstow (50!), Bubbles the Clown (52!), Alex Pierce (42), and Black Hat Bailey (35)

Oh, and it's youth movement is Sean McFly...and Jim Force!

[FlameSnoopy]

To be fair to HGC only Dusty Streets, Rip Chord, Sam Strong, Larry Vessey and The Demons of Rage are over the hill. Peter Valentine, Mr. Lucha and Dread still have fuel in the tank and BLZ Bubb, Bryan Vessey, RDJ, Liberty are all under 30.

Yeah I guess I was stating the obvious with SWF being WWE.

Mhhh, and I wonder...does this mean that TCW are NWA posers?

EDIT: Just to come back to the age thing...you'd better be careful when you throw that around

SWF's Champion Sam Keith is 36, and it's upper card is made up of The Lords of War (late 30s), The Perfect Storm (early 40s), Sid Streets (40), Rory "I'm not Roddy Pipper" McCallum (37), No Way Jose (35), Cheatin Mike Barstow (50!), Bubbles the Clown (52!), Alex Pierce (42), and Black Hat Bailey (35)

Oh, and it's youth movement is Sean McFly...and Jim Force!

It doesn't matter how old SWF's upper card is if they just have ... Jim FOOOOORCEEE~!

[Comradebot]

It doesn't matter how old SWF's upper card is if they just have ... Jim FOOOOORCEEE~!

BUY MY MERCHANDISE!

[The Masked Orange]

BUY MY MERCHANDISE!

Back in '97 he was still trying to get people to buy into the facepaint...

[The Celt]

Never fear, the team of Roberts and Bailey are on the case!

Cue 1970s cop show music

[Blackman]

I want to start a game as HGC. It's just an ace roster to start with.

Sam Strong & Rip Chord means insta-A+ segment power to fuel your shows. :p

Well, at least for 3 months, until Sam Strong either dies or retires, whichever comes first.

In '08, he died on me... a lot of times. :p (might've been the '08 c-verse data tho, meh)

[Derek B]

Just a quick update for those of you who care. :)

Progress has been slow but fruitful, I've caught a handful of future workers who were debuting with their old overness levels from TEW08 (or maybe even TEW07!) and flattened out a lot of stats to bring respect into line with.. everything else. Will be especially good for those of you who like young lions to have to pay their dues and the like, with tweaks to also lower the overness of future workers too... and give them updated/altered personalitites.

Given that it's unlikely anyone is going to ever really get to the 10 year mark of a game, I'm going to finish up to the end of 2006 for stat tweaks and then put the finishing touches to the first release of the mod. There will almost certainly be a 2.0 down the line with data brought in from other mods, picture sets completed and stuff like that too... but that could be a looooong ways away.

And for those of you wh oI haven't sent beta data to, here's a quick sample bio from one of the Cornellverse's most notorious stars. :)

BIG SMACK SCOTT BIO: Big Smack Scott (Scott Sinclair) is without a doubt, one of the most violent men to ever step into a wrestling ring, not that his matches spend much time there. His in-ring character and his real self are so similar as to be almost indistguishable, with Scott known to be a total meathead jock and one of the most self centered people ever known. The few acts of kindness he has ever done to help people were to attempt to get his idiot brother a job (not even XFW wanted him though) and to get XFW to hire a stripper he met one night and promised the world to.

Among his self hype tools are a range of mythical or pointless moves, including an exaggerated elbow drop that sees Scott take nearly a minute to hit after bouncing off the ropes and the Shooting Smack Press, a never seen shooting star press that Scott promises to break out on a special occasion. For the sake of his opponents, it had better be never..

Release, coming soon-ish! :D

[The Celt]

I've got a copy of Big Smack Scott doing the Shooting Smack Press on an old VHS tape.


I can NEVER legally show it to anyone though.

[The Masked Orange]

I've got a copy of Big Smack Scott doing the Shooting Smack Press on an old VHS tape.


I can NEVER legally show it to anyone though.

Unless you are in International Waters...

;)

[The Celt]

Ah man, I was talked into doing that once...trying to replace severed eyeballs 49 knots off mainland Taiwan is NOT my idea of fun. The Chinese government is still hunting my ass. "Oh...how could you bring such a weapon of mass destruction so close to our shores" and all this, like all 1 Billion Chinese were in danger...just a few thousand :rolleyes:

[bak42]

I've got a copy of Big Smack Scott doing the Shooting Smack Press on an old VHS tape.


I can NEVER legally show it to anyone though.

Did the tape survive?

[The Celt]

It's sorta like the film the ring. The tape always survives...you won't.

[Self]

You know what I didn't like about the previous C-Verse 97 data? How the DeColts had A* tag team experience. Even though they're brothers, they're all in their early twenties at this point. Good experience, sure, but perfect seemed overkill. In fact, I thought the DeColts were overpowered in a lot of ways. They might have natural presence and charisma, but good mic skills take time.

Been a while since I looked at it though. Top stuff, just niggling "How dare you give The Miz D star quality???" quibbles. :)

[The Celt]

Eh, it's just sort of a TEW rule of thumb that Tag Team who are related get A* experience. It represents both the fact they were in all likely-ness trained together and the fact that the bond between family means they've known each other all their lives. When you know someone for 20 odd years that seen as a superior experience to having tagged with a guy for a couple of years.

A big thing in Tag wrestling is being able to predict and know what your partner will do and what's he's thinking. That can take years to prefect. With family you come to the table with that already established.


EDIT: By the way guys, Just with Nemesis, he may want a bit of a decrease on his populity from 08. In 08 he's B+, which is more pop than Jim Force, Black Hat Bailey and others around the top of SWF Midcard. At that pop he's popular enough to be challenging Sam Keith, the World champ ya know?

[praguepride]

Maybe this is fixed in a later version of TEW 2010, but I find the long (amusing) AMW narratives are unreadable outside of the DB editor. The news always cuts them off :(

@derek_b: Do you have alts for the few workers that don't have them? I copied over my '08 '97 pic pack over and that cleared up the majority of the workers, but there are still a few without pics, like Dream Girl (hubba hubba ;))

Also, a suggestion for AMW would be to add more workers to written contracts. Namely Thomass Goddard and Corey Smith, with James Sinclair being optional.

I like the idea of taunting the user by having 8 guys on written deals (9 if you include the user character) and not having enough wrestlers to actually do house shows, being 1 or 2 short. The user will be so close from getting some free money & exposure, but alas they'll be impossibly far because they know they'll never be able to sign on another written worker for a long...long time.

Also the existing AMW workers are on random contract length. I remember in '08 they were on something like 2 or 3 year contracts and that worked out nicely. It sucks having Joel or The Rev's contract come up within a month of gameplay and Trenton refusing to let you resign.

I mean, yeah that's part of the challenge but I think it destroys the "awesome" backstage atmosphere if trenton just fires all of them.

Which is why I think Corey, Thomas, and James should be on written deals because there is NOTHING to stop any rational booker from immediately firing those three and raising their backstage morale by 10 pts.

When I played through the game the first time, I never used any of them, and generally fired all of them as quickly as I could replace them. However, it was more challenlging with them on long written deals and I ended up being forced to use them because

(a) they're cheap
(b) I have them for a long time...might as well try and develop them...

Finally, I find it odd that Rock Downpour gets immediately fired from all his gigs right off the bat...

[The Celt]

Personally I like using the new(ish) render of Kali Fornia as Dream girl's render. It's just a new match and Kali Fornia doesn't see much action (:rolleyes:) in the default data anyways


Also I've come up with a nice little idea playing as XFW today...

Womanizer Robbie Gordon as a user character. In 1997 Robbie is 48, which isn't too bad considering The Blazing Flames, The Stomper, Sheik Mustafa, Ernest Mason and few others are still knocking around.

I've been using him in a similar way to how Phil Vibert used Nemesis sort of way, basically being a guy so over he drags the rest of the card up with him. Very handy, as XFW really needs one of "those" guys to lift them up.

I gave him stats based on his 70s model, with a good bit of deterioration. Pop at C+ in the US. Makes him kinda similar to big Dunc, only more over and with a TON of charisma


Could you imagine if Gordon really did take the XFW book in 97? Considering he's Nemesis's mentor, we could assume Nemesis would have joined XFW instead. Man, what a power combo that would have made.


EDIT: Holy Crap...that would make for a sweet "What if" mod. Gordon takes the XFW book, brings in Nemesis and wins the East Coast War, resulting in the much more Risque XFW product taking over the indies...leading to a whole bunch of workers going to XFW under much more crazier gimmicks. Jack Giedroyc as the Wrath of God maybe? Matt Sparrow gets over in XFW as his now infamous Eisenverse gimmick of the Pecker-Wrecker takes off instead of his poor run at DAVE that actually happened? The Peaks are famous for being EVEN more violent that their DAVE counter-parts? Easy Emma in 3 lesbian angles?!?!?!?!? The New Wave as a Militant White Power Tag Team WTF???!!!??!!?!?!

Might do that when I finally get around to buying TEW10

[shamelessposer]

EDIT: Holy Crap...that would make for a sweet "What if" mod. Gordon takes the XFW book, brings in Nemesis and wins the East Coast War, resulting in the much more Risque XFW product taking over the indies...leading to a whole bunch of workers going to XFW under much more crazier gimmicks. Jack Giedroyc as the Wrath of God maybe? Matt Sparrow gets over in XFW as his now infamous Eisenverse gimmick of the Pecker-Wrecker takes off instead of his poor run at DAVE that actually happened? The Peaks are famous for being EVEN more violent that their DAVE counter-parts? Easy Emma in 3 lesbian angles?!?!?!?!? The New Wave as a Militant White Power Tag Team WTF???!!!??!!?!?!

Might do that when I finally get around to buying TEW10

This gives me another, much weirder idea. Might have to send out some PMs.

[Waghlon]

If i were to do a 'what if' situation, i'd have Nemesis go to RPW and then Gordon to XFW and then see the East Coast War go on well into cult and the 21st century.

But i can totally see that The Womanizer should be a user character. He's just... Awesome...

[aznblusuazn]

Just a quick update for those of you who care. :)

Progress has been slow but fruitful, I've caught a handful of future workers who were debuting with their old overness levels from TEW08 (or maybe even TEW07!) and flattened out a lot of stats to bring respect into line with.. everything else. Will be especially good for those of you who like young lions to have to pay their dues and the like, with tweaks to also lower the overness of future workers too... and give them updated/altered personalitites.

Given that it's unlikely anyone is going to ever really get to the 10 year mark of a game, I'm going to finish up to the end of 2006 for stat tweaks and then put the finishing touches to the first release of the mod. There will almost certainly be a 2.0 down the line with data brought in from other mods, picture sets completed and stuff like that too... but that could be a looooong ways away.

And for those of you wh oI haven't sent beta data to, here's a quick sample bio from one of the Cornellverse's most notorious stars. :)



Release, coming soon-ish! :D

Between what dates of future workers are being tweak from the Beta release? And what stats are being tweaked? This is so I can go through my AllenVerse data and do the same. Thanks.

[Phantom Stranger]

@derek_b: Do you have alts for the few workers that don't have them? I copied over my '08 '97 pic pack over and that cleared up the majority of the workers, but there are still a few without pics, like Dream Girl (hubba hubba ;))

I remember putting this together:

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm75/trenchcoatbrigand/Dangerous/SWF%20Footage/DreamGirl.jpg

when she featured briefly in the Philly Pro diary.

[praguepride]

*puts on shades*

Nice...:cool:

[Blackman]

this needs sum bumpin'. :D

back to teh '90s

[Derek B]

this needs sum bumpin'. :D

back to teh '90s

Don't tell anyone but I'm releasing the data tonight... shh! :cool:

[praguepride]

Don't tell anyone but I'm releasing the data tonight... shh! :cool:

what was that again?

[Comradebot]

Don't tell anyone but I'm releasing the data tonight... shh! :cool:

Woot!

Can finally get this XFW thing off the ground!

Just gotta keep reworking that intro, figuring out whether or not to leave Dante and Randal in for that one scene, just because, well... Clerks was awesome, Jersey (yeah SCREW New York City, most overplayed crap ever)...

Anywoodle, woot!

[The Celt]

i Think He Said That The C-verse '97 Is Being Launched For TEW10 Tonight Praguepride

And I need to buy the damn thing...

[Waghlon]

Whats this i hear about it being released tonight? I dont believe it! We better keep it a secret...

[The Masked Orange]

Well I'm glad no one knows this: derek_b is not releasing the data tonight, the power of having a dragonite for an avatar got to his head and made it so that he'd lie to us, it does happen to the best of us. I used to have an orange for my avatar, and now it's stuck to my head. :(

[Derek B]

Well I'm glad no one knows this: derek_b is not releasing the data tonight, the power of having a dragonite for an avatar got to his head and made it so that he'd lie to us, it does happen to the best of us. I used to have an orange for my avatar, and now it's stuck to my head. :(

Weird... I always thought you were an orange who get a mask stuck to his head and a human stuck to his... um, yeah. I probably shouldn't say that.

In other news, release thread is up. :)

[The Masked Orange]

Weird... I always thought you were an orange who get a mask stuck to his head and a human stuck to his... um, yeah. I probably shouldn't say that.

In other news, release thread is up. :)

That's just one of the stories. Nobody remembers how it happened, if I'm orange on human, human on citrus, a weird ratio of both.

The truth to me started on a dark day in 1874...

Gotta stop, did you just release it? :eek: