Still no news?

[Kelly J Delaney]

Too bad.

[jonlawson]

here's some news,....

Michigan to get frozen rain storm tonight,...winds will be out of the southeast ranging from 50 to 60 mph,...enjoy!

[BYU 14]

Here is some more News.....

Doomba's new book "Life is a bright, Shiny Rainbow" just debuted on the New York times best seller list!!!

[Tim Plum]

Here's some news my dad was re-elected to the Va. House of Delegates.

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

Every day, week, month that this game is not released is additional (as well as future) sales/ potential customers lost. Expectations will also increase but at some point lose relevance.

Not trying to bash anyone, but we are now 40 days past the initial promised release date. Does anyone else think that this is not good for business?

[Maximus]

Every day, week, month that this game is not released is additional (as well as future) sales/ potential customers lost. Expectations will also increase but at some point lose relevance.

Not trying to bash anyone, but we are now 40 days past the initial promised release date. Does anyone else think that this is not good for business?


^
another funny post by this guy................

[Cooleyvol]

Every day, week, month that this game is not released is additional (as well as future) sales/ potential customers lost. Expectations will also increase but at some point lose relevance.

Not trying to bash anyone, but we are now 40 days past the initial promised release date. Does anyone else think that this is not good for business?

The truth is that you're not worried about customers being lost or if it is bad for business.

I want the game out as bad (probably worse) than you, but whining on a message board about it is going to do nothing to make it better.

[BuffaloHusky]

Actually, I think it that putting out a buggy product would have a more significant adverse effect than the delay in releasing the product. Remember the core audience for this game will play mutiple seasons of the game within a week, the release does not have to be align with the college football season. I honestly don't care when the game is released, I just want it to be done right. I don't want to beta test a game I purchased.

[dime]

I work for a fortune 500 company, and we've had to delay our software releases by several months at a time. The damage that would have been done by providing our clients with the software "as is" would have been much worse than the embrassment of having to push back the release date.

Many companies don't provide release dates at all, precisely to avoid this catch 22.

To summarize, none of this is unusual. Arlie is certainly making the right business decision. That's all that really matters.

[DocBBall35]

Every day, week, month that this game is not released is additional (as well as future) sales/ potential customers lost. Expectations will also increase but at some point lose relevance.

Not trying to bash anyone, but we are now 40 days past the initial promised release date. Does anyone else think that this is not good for business?

Really? 40 days passed a promised release date? I don't recall a promised release date. I recall "we are shooting for..." but I don't recall hearing "we will release on". C'mon now, I'm as upset as anyone, but they never promised anything. And also, if you expected it to be on time, you obviously haven't dealt with GreyDog or .400 before.

In reality, and I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this one, but I think that GreyDog should postpone the release until Early August of next year. Take the time to get the game all worked out and release it when the hype for the new season will be the highest. It's all about marketing, and I think waiting would be best for GreyDog, although they have more loyalty to their customers than most if not all software companies.

[SkyDog]

I think a missing piece here for some people is the fact that if the game is good, people will buy it eventually. Some will buy it within minutes after it is released, no matter what time of year that is. Others will get a college football bug on Conference Championship weekend and buy it then. Still others will be bored over Christmas break and purchase. With New Years' Day falling on a Sunday, some will be off on Monday, January 2nd, all pumped about college football, and buy it then. Others will get pumped about their favorite team's recruiting class on the first Wednesday in February, and buy then. Some will get pumped about college football again because of the spring game, and buy it then. Some will get excited when the freshmen report to school in June for summer classes and weight training, and want a college football game. Casual (read: weenie) gamers won't be moved to buy a college game until next August/September when the next season rolls around, but if BBCF is a good game, they'll buy it then. Regardless, if the game is good, people will eventually buy it.

[Chappy]

Actually, I think it that putting out a buggy product would have a more significant adverse effect than the delay in releasing the product. Remember the core audience for this game will play mutiple seasons of the game within a week, the release does not have to be align with the college football season. I honestly don't care when the game is released, I just want it to be done right. I don't want to beta test a game I purchased.

Yep.

I work for a fortune 500 company, and we've had to delay our software releases by several months at a time. The damage that would have been done by providing our clients with the software "as is" would have been much worse than the embrassment of having to push back the release date...

Yep.

I think a missing piece here for some people is the fact that if the game is good, people will buy it eventually. Some will buy it within minutes after it is released, no matter what time of year that is. Others will get a college football bug on Conference Championship weekend and buy it then. Still others will be bored over Christmas break and purchase. With New Years' Day falling on a Sunday, some will be off on Monday, January 2nd, all pumped about college football, and buy it then. Others will get pumped about their favorite team's recruiting class on the first Wednesday in February, and buy then. Some will get pumped about college football again because of the spring game, and buy it then. Some will get excited when the freshmen report to school in June for summer classes and weight training, and want a college football game. Casual (read: weenie) gamers won't be moved to buy a college game until next August/September when the next season rolls around, but if BBCF is a good game, they'll buy it then. Regardless, if the game is good, people will eventually buy it.

Yep.

[jonlawson]

Uhm, news update, no freezing rain in Micghian, but did get the 55 mps winds!! Back to you Greydog!!

[Garratt]

Zzzzzzzzzzz

[govols]

Actually, I think it that putting out a buggy product would have a more significant adverse effect than the delay in releasing the product. Remember the core audience for this game will play mutiple seasons of the game within a week, the release does not have to be align with the college football season. I honestly don't care when the game is released, I just want it to be done right. I don't want to beta test a game I purchased.


I agree about the buggy product causing more problems than a delay. Another buggy game from Arlie would really put a hurt on his future game development. So far, I have bought both his college basketball game and his pro football game and both had rough starts. However, they both ended up being pretty good games in the end.

The delay also is a cause for concern. Too me, a delay this long could be that major bugs were discovered late in the beta test process that are taking a while to fix. Which could result in more bugs causing even more delay and a buggy game at release.

However, I am hoping it means that Arlie is really fine tuning this game and it will be really good at release.

I guess we all will just have to wait to find out. Hopefully, it wont be much longer. Think Positive! At least the game is closer to release today than it was yesterday.

[Bryan Swartz]

Arlie has posted that ideas brought up by the beta team resulted in a significant re-thinking of design. In other words, large areas of the game had to be redone. This would have nothing to with bugs, but rather an improvement to the structure of the game.

[sportsfanmas]

Well we have learned that some people want this game way too much, especially since they are making up lies. It's been said over and over that NOBODY promised a release date of any kind. They were shooting for a release date of Q3, it didn't happen. Oh well, suck it up, and get over it. I'd much rather have a game delayed for months, and be a great quality game with very few bugs, than have a game released before it should be, with lots of bugs. Some people need to get a clue, and a life.

[chammer39]

I told everyone that Thanksgiving was going to be the day. More and more it looks like I may come out on top.

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

Well we have learned that some people want this game way too much, especially since they are making up lies. It's been said over and over that NOBODY promised a release date of any kind. They were shooting for a release date of Q3, it didn't happen. Oh well, suck it up, and get over it. I'd much rather have a game delayed for months, and be a great quality game with very few bugs, than have a game released before it should be, with lots of bugs. Some people need to get a clue, and a life.

Arlie already admitted that September 30th was the original release date of this game. I can get you the post if you like. So please come down off of your "fanboy soap box" and understand that timing and keeping to a scheduled release date are also important aspects in releasing a successful product!

So while I can appreciate your blind loyalty to Arlie, please do not use it to espouse denigrating remarks that only end up making you look somewhat judgmental....

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

I told everyone that Thanksgiving was going to be the day. More and more it looks like I may come out on top.

I am thinking that we will be fortunate to have it out before the bowl season is over.....IMO.

[chammer39]

We shall see.

[Arlie Rahn]

Arlie already admitted that September 30th was the original release date of this game.
I admitted after the fact that it was an internal release target for us. Obviously, events made us miss that release but it's not like back in July i was saying we would have a hard release of Sept 30. We were targeting a release in the third quarter - but it didn't happen.

The BETA is going very well and we are in the process of entering our final testing phase. There are a few areas I want to get more validation on and it will not be released until I feel good about them. Again, for people chomping at the bit I advise to keep asking questions. I try and put in a few minutes everyday answering different game-related questions to help you guys get a better idea on what BBCF will be like.

[Wiglaf]

Arlie,

Get some sleep :)

It's late

[Kelly J Delaney]

The BETA is going very well and we are in the process of entering our final testing phase. There are a few areas I want to get more validation on and it will not be released until I feel good about them. Again, for people chomping at the bit I advise to keep asking questions. I try and put in a few minutes everyday answering different game-related questions to help you guys get a better idea on what BBCF will be like.

Hey, news.

Thank you.

[jjgrant7]

well that sounds good...

[jonlawson]

And the thread dies :)

[Cooleyvol]

Sure it does--questions were answered and the crybabies around here have nothing else to whine about presently. Stay tuned.

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

The main reason that I am interested in this proposed game is because there is really not much out there for college football sims. TCY was good two years ago, now it is the only game on the market. I had hoped that this game would be out by September 30th, as "targeted" by Arlie, so I could enjoy it along with this wonderful college football season. However as the days pass that seems less and less likely.

Will I purchase this game if it comes out in January? Maybe, but maybe not until the next season begins in August/September. You see I enjoy playing the sim that season is concurrently playing out. I know not everyone plays this way but I also know that many do. The point being that if this game is finally released in January or later, many sales could be lost. Further, should another software developer come out with another college football sim or say an upgrade such as TCY2, before the 2006 season, then that would cause further loss of sales.

This is not whining as the many fanboys put it, just my observations as an experienced buyer of all sports sims. Of course I am disappointed that BBCF is still not ready for release. Every day that I come to this board and see no evidence of new game screens or pending completion of the game reinforces the disappointment and erodes confidence in this product. I truly hope that this game does come out by Thanksgiving, or Christmas and is a smashing success. My experiences with TDCB (which was decent, but not very user friendly thereby reducing replayability) and TPF (a terrible gaming experience) and the lateness and lack of impending completion of this game have probably left me with a negative attitude towards this game before it has even come out. I am generally a very positive and up beat person.

Ok, that is enough, I will no longer provide "sour grapes" with my commentary. I just wanted to help you to understand some of the reasons for whay many of us are so deeply disappointed at this point in time.

Now here's hoping that the completed product will erase this temporary disappointment.

[jonlawson]

198 posts in 2 months?!?!

Is this your life?
Make that 217 Sir, thankyou :)

For you Mr. Kelly person who started this thread :D

[Kelly J Delaney]

Count em

64 in 14 months!!!

I am on a record pace. :D

I did about 30 of them last year when I was on the TPB beta team.

Seriously though,

I travel about 45-47 weeks a year now. I am home roughly 10 days a month. When I am home, I spend most of the time with my wife and our 3 girls.
At times, I do miss coming here.

[Cooleyvol]

Will I purchase this game if it comes out in January? Maybe, but maybe not until the next season begins in August/September.

Yeah, right.

[smartman]

Here is what everyone is missing if you are a fan of A college football team (as opposed to just loving to watch college football). Sure, the season runs from Aug.-Dec/early Jan. (depending on your team). However, then you have Feb. with Signing Day, April for Spring Practice, and all Summer when the pre-season mags come out. College sports is pretty much a year-round thing now so I don't really understand the people that say they won't buy BBCF or the college basketball game if they don't come out during the season.

[mikey1294]

I agree with smartman. Also if you really wanted to play the game you shouldn't care when it comes out.

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

I agree with smartman. Also if you really wanted to play the game you shouldn't care when it comes out.

Me and others like me who have a limited amount of time to play these wonderful sport sims, we like to "stay within season" so to speak. And then what about the "budget" minded sim fans? Let's say that TCB comes out the same week as BBCF. Perhaps someone only has $40 to spend on a sim game for the first three months of 2006. Maybe they would chose Gary's game because of TPB and it would be during the heart of College Basketball Season. Then in March or April, say the new OOTP comes out or TCY2, whatever, a new game is out that either competes with BBCF or matches the current season (Baseball by then). Do you see my point? Do to BBCF coming out too late for some, missing it's "window of best opportunity", many sales are lost.....

This is a very real scenario.

Now in my case, I have been Blessed with funds enough to by this game even if the above scenario happens. But I will not by it if I do not intend to play it or if it is not an excellent bug free game. I may wait for an updated version or TCY2.

That being said, any chance this game will be out by Thanksgiving? :eek:

[mh2365]

Me and others like me who have a limited amount of time to play these wonderful sport sims, we like to "stay within season" so to speak. And then what about the "budget" minded sim fans? Let's say that TCB comes out the same week as BBCF. Perhaps someone only has $40 to spend on a sim game for the first three months of 2006. Maybe they would chose Gary's game because of TPB and it would be during the heart of College Basketball Season. Then in March or April, say the new OOTP comes out or TCY2, whatever, a new game is out that either competes with BBCF or matches the current season (Baseball by then). Do you see my point? Do to BBCF coming out too late for some, missing it's "window of best opportunity", many sales are lost.....

This is a very real scenario.

Now in my case, I have been Blessed with funds enough to by this game even if the above scenario happens. But I will not by it if I do not intend to play it or if it is not an excellent bug free game. I may wait for an updated version or TCY2.

That being said, any chance this game will be out by Thanksgiving? :eek:


Of course Cooley will be smart on this post also, but this is my point exactly. With Christmas on the way I will be hardpressed to buy one game let alone two, if I have to buy one it'll be the one that's in season.

That said I'll eventually get both even if it's March or April when I buy BBCF. But my other problem is by then I'll be looking to play baseball. I have limited time and the majority of it is spent on Title Bout so I kinda have to limit my playing of other games to in-season.

What it coming out late does for me, is allows me to let a few patches be put out before buying. Usually I jump right on them. Now I'll by Gary's game and wait awhile on BBCF.

This is not a flame against the game because I'd rather it be done right but to just dismiss the concerns of a game coming out out-of-season is ignorant. The don't release new tax software in August.

[Cooleyvol]

Nothing smart to say about your post........you state that it might be March/April before you buy. I can believe that........................August, as Celts posted, I can't believe.

[smartman]

Whoa, I never dismissed anyone who said they wouldn't buy it out-of-season. I simply stated that college football really never goes out of season for a lot of people.

However, saying you're going to buy other games at specific times is not declining to buy BBCF because it is out-of-season. That is just pure decision-making by you, the customer, to buy another game because you think it will be a better game than BBCF. After all, are you going to buy a baseball game that sucks just because it is baseball season? I hope not. As a 13-year computer gamer, I can tell you that if a game is good (or great) I'll find time to play it no matter what type of game or what season it is.

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

:D
This is not a flame against the game because I'd rather it be done right but to just dismiss the concerns of a game coming out out-of-season is ignorant. The don't release new tax software in August.

LOL! :D

[Druez]

I think a missing piece here for some people is the fact that if the game is good, people will buy it eventually. Some will buy it within minutes after it is released, no matter what time of year that is. Others will get a college football bug on Conference Championship weekend and buy it then. Still others will be bored over Christmas break and purchase. With New Years' Day falling on a Sunday, some will be off on Monday, January 2nd, all pumped about college football, and buy it then. Others will get pumped about their favorite team's recruiting class on the first Wednesday in February, and buy then. Some will get pumped about college football again because of the spring game, and buy it then. Some will get excited when the freshmen report to school in June for summer classes and weight training, and want a college football game. Casual (read: weenie) gamers won't be moved to buy a college game until next August/September when the next season rolls around, but if BBCF is a good game, they'll buy it then. Regardless, if the game is good, people will eventually buy it.

ummm..... I agree with Skydog again.

[SkyDog]

ummm..... I agree with Skydog again.BUWAHAHAHA! http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif (javascript:emoticon(':twisted:'))

[Doomba]

Seriously.. all "clever fanboy kissing" aside.. how stupid is it to release a sports game when the season of that sport is pretty much over? Smart move there, guys.

Perhaps you need to dump a couple programmers and spend the payroll on a new marketing campaign that hypnotizes buyers into believing how good of an idea this really is...

[Outlaw77]

You have a point Doomba but how stupid is it to release a game that you know has flaws or you know that could be made better? You can't critize someone for wanting to give a quality product. If you want to wait, fine if you don't that fine also there is no law that holds you responsible for waiting for the game or holds them responsible for delaying the game. I want the game as much as the next person but complaining isn't gonna get me the game.

[Chappy]

Seriously.. all "clever fanboy kissing" aside.. how stupid is it to release a sports game when the season of that sport is pretty much over? Smart move there, guys.

Perhaps you need to dump a couple programmers and spend the payroll on a new marketing campaign that hypnotizes buyers into believing how good of an idea this really is...

A little exploration at this site on your part would let you know that Greydog is a band of independent programmers. There are no spare programmers to dump, and thus, no payroll to reinvest into marketing.

[Outlaw77]

And also I believe in being fair so this is what I suggest. For those who say the game must be release before the start of the season then to be fair then lets make this apply for the customer to. Lets just all be inconvienced by this little idea. :) So the software makers have to release the game in whatever state before the start of the season and us as customers only get to play the game during that season. So in this case no urges during spring signing when your team gets a good recruit(or a few depending on who you root for) or during summer workouts when you may get the urge to play nope we can't play till the next season.

On a more suttle and diplomatic note I say this, we want the game and the makers want to get us the game. We depend on them for entertainment and they depend on us for money. So while we are waiting they are to and I'm sure they want to get us what we want as much as they want what we give them so this isn't a one-sided deal where they are just laughing at us for not having the game.

[SkyDog]

Seriously.. all "clever fanboy kissing" aside.. how stupid is it to release a sports game when the season of that sport is pretty much over? Smart move there, guys.

Perhaps you need to dump a couple programmers and spend the payroll on a new marketing campaign that hypnotizes buyers into believing how good of an idea this really is...But here's the thing: it doesn't MATTER whether or not buyers think it was sound marketing or not, what matters is whether or not buyers decide to buy the game. Most people aren't going to say, "Hmmmm...this game sounds like fun, but they made a bad marketing decision so I'm not going to buy it," you get my drift? People who don't buy immediately will make their decisions based on reviews and user feedback primarily, not on their perception of the marketing acumen of Grey Dog Software.

[Dirk9827]

Ok, several points here.

First, while I enjoyed the quip about the fact that tax software isn't released in August, there is a distinction to be made: tax software serves a utilitarian purpose while game software is presumably for entertainment. I am skeptical that there are hordes of people on the message boards clamoring for the next release of Turbo Tax. Certainly, there are those individuals with unique tax circumstances who would be interested if a new feature would help them prepare their returns, but on the whole, how many people among us are really pulling for the inclusion of "that new amortization scheduler."

Simply, we are compelled to pay taxes; we play games by choice.

Which bring us to the next tenet:

People will pay for want they want, and not for what they necessarily need.

And what do people want in a game? Well, the number one thing people don't want is a bug-filled release. First impressions count for a lot in software development, and customers are far more understanding of missed release dates than they are of software that doesn’t work properly.

There are countless examples of rushed code disasters. The bug-infested final installment of FrontPage Football resulted in Sierra closing down the entire franchise. The last thing any business wants to do is rewrite major sections of code. It is expensive and time consuming. Hence the reason companies conduct extensive beta testing.

Bowl Bound appeals to a niche: the sports sim crowd. The target audience consists of those people who prize statistical plausibility and realism far ahead of gamepad athletics. There are no fancy graphics and booming soundtracks to compensate for any statistical shortcomings. The game engine must be sound, and the bugs few, or the entire “simulation” experience is compromised.

Doomba, you are doing yourself few favors in your posts. We anxiously await the moment when you contribute something that isn't divisive, belittling, bombastic or juvenile. Please take some pride in yourself and show a little class.

[BYU 14]

But here's the thing: it doesn't MATTER whether or not buyers think it was sound marketing or not, what matters is whether or not buyers decide to buy the game. Most people aren't going to say, "Hmmmm...this game sounds like fun, but they made a bad marketing decision so I'm not going to buy it," you get my drift? People who don't buy immediately will make their decisions based on reviews and user feedback primarily, not on their perception of the marketing acumen of Grey Dog Software.

Ben, You'll have better luck getting a frown out of Anthony Robbins than you will trying to reason with the scourge of Happiness that is Doomba.

[smartman]

Everyone! Get a grip. The person who shall remain nameless is never going to buy the game or say anything relevant. Treat him as a loser and a moron and just ignore him.

Now, hopefully the game will come out soon. Discussing when games should come out is irrelevant. The game was targeted to come out in the 3Q. Unfortunately, he had a kid added onto his other "real" job pushing the release date back. Saying the game should be pushed back until next year is dumb too. Yes, Arlie shouldn't make any money just because it is an inconvience to a few that their money is targeted to go to other games.

The game is coming out, and it will be bought immediately (within the first month) by about 80% of the people who would have bought it if it was out in Sept. Then, when it gets a glowing review on Gamespot.com (it better if the horrendous game that was WreSpi got a great review), more people will buy it. To those 20% who are going to skip the game because it came out a little late (games have been delayed by 6 months or a year(s)), you'll miss what looks to be a great game. I sincerely hope your games are good too. Lord knows I've bought my fair share of horrendous games (even some from this company).

[ps2MattM]

Delay of Game, Arlie, 5 yard penalty..

[chammer39]

We are about 2 weeks away from the release.

[cody8200]

We are about 2 weeks away from the release.

I'm on the beta team...I haven't heard this or any other date for that matter. I don't think you should be saying this as if it were gospel, because people have a tendency to believe everything they read. The game will be done when its fully tested and as bug-free as possible. Just hold on, your going to love it when its done.

[Roger Kaputnik]

Delay of Game, Arlie, 5 yard penalty..

I hate all of the whining about the release date but I have to admit I got a chuckle out of that.

:D

[ps2MattM]

It was just an attempt to get people to lighten up, take another year on it arlie, just make it good..

[chammer39]

Thanksgiving.

[Huckleberry]

I'm on the beta team...I haven't heard this or any other date for that matter. I don't think you should be saying this as if it were gospel, because people have a tendency to believe everything they read. The game will be done when its fully tested and as bug-free as possible. Just hold on, your going to love it when its done.

I think he's just trying to play off of his "by Thanksgiving" prediction.

And I haven't complained and won't complain on any boards about the release, but note that it's easier for you to tell people to hold on if you're on the beta team. ;)

[Bryan Swartz]

I say delay it until December even if it is ready at Thanksgiving Arlie, just to dish out some humble pie to certain people.

it's easier for you to tell people to hold on if you're on the beta team.

Actually, the beta team will probably be more excited to have it done than the customers will. It's a ton more fun to play a game than it is to test it, which generally is very time-consuming and tedious.

[chammer39]

If that's the case I will boycott. Thanksgiving or nothing.

[raindog]

I say delay it until December even if it is ready at Thanksgiving Arlie, just to dish out some humble pie to certain people.

:eek: No comments

It's a ton more fun to play a game than it is to test it, which generally is very time-consuming and tedious.

It's easier to test a game than it is to wait for it without any info, wich generally is very frustrating ;)

[Cardinal Rule]

If that's the case I will boycott. Thanksgiving or nothing.

Maybe you ought to start your boycott now and give the rest of us a break? ;)

[jonlawson]

News!! Michigan got 1 inch of snow today and the low for tonight is 19 degrees. That's your flash at the weather, have a nice day!

[jonlawson]

But here's the thing: it doesn't MATTER whether or not buyers think it was sound marketing or not, what matters is whether or not buyers decide to buy the game. Most people aren't going to say, "Hmmmm...this game sounds like fun, but they made a bad marketing decision so I'm not going to buy it," you get my drift? People who don't buy immediately will make their decisions based on reviews and user feedback primarily, not on their perception of the marketing acumen of Grey Dog Software.
I think this post is enough, this thread should just die now :D

[Roger Kaputnik]

I think this post is enough, this thread should just die now :D

Wuzzyoutalkinbout, Willis? This thread is just getting started. I hope the game is NOT released at Thanksgiving because I am starting to love the Whine-O-Rama.

[Jestor]

In other news, in 2 hours I leave to go see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

[Doomba]

Know what would be cool? A rivalry week release... you know.. tomorrow.. college football... rivalry week...??

YEAH RIGHT!

HAHAHAHA!!! We've been waiting for this game since before the fricken season! Why get it now??? I totally understand if you release this game in correspondence to the NHL Playoffs instead!

[chammer39]

Or we can just go with my Thanksgiving release date.

[cvhawley]

I would be shocked if we get anything but a demo released by or during Thanksgiving weekend.

[chammer39]

That would be alright, then it would just be one week later when the full version would be released.

[cvhawley]

That would be alright, then it would just be one week later when the full version would be released.

I agree

[Doomba]

Aww.. you poor guys are gonna be upset when it's not out next week. :)

[jksander]

I think he's just trying to play off of his "by Thanksgiving" prediction.

And I haven't complained and won't complain on any boards about the release, but note that it's easier for you to tell people to hold on if you're on the beta team. ;)

Actually, I'd think it'd be harder, since they're working their asses off to fix bugs ... the pressure's intense to avoid having any major bugs in the demo release or full release. Beta testers aren't "playing the game" they're running constant tests to avoid bugs ... and they don't get paid or anything. So, based on other betas I've been part of, it's like having a second full-time job that doesn't pay anything. The enjoyment comes from knowing when the game comes out that you played a part in making the game as bug free as possible.

[chammer39]

I believe that the demo will be out by next week.

[Mad Cow]

That would be cool.

[gopokes]

What makes you think the game demo will be out next weak? Not trying to be a smart mouth just wondering if you know something the rest of us don't or if it's just a hunch?

[chammer39]

That is just my thought on it....Last week Arlie said that the game/demo were close to being ready.

[Doomba]

I don't know anything, but... this game has been in production, and supposed to be released, since.. well.. months ago. What makes Thanksgiving a good time? If they were worried about a good time, they would've attending programming school and perhaps would have been able to finish this game quicker, to meet its initial predicted release time.. instead.. we'll now have to enjoy it during the college football off-season.

Keep getting your hopes up about next week though.. And the week after... and the week after... and after that... and....

[diamonddave35]

All Ive read from Doomba is negative..just curious as to why he's even posting. If he's obviously this dissapointed..he wont buy it anyway..So why dont you go back to your shell, everyone is sick of your posts

[BYU 14]

Doomba once again makes Anthony Robbins look suicidal with his unbridled, uncontained optimisitic take on all that is BBCF related.

I can't wait for the release, just so you can change it up and come on and whine like a Bitch about all that is wrong with the game..............cause you know that will be next. At least then we won't have to see it cause we will be busy playing.

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

Is it me or does this remind you of when TPF was coming out? We all know what a disaster that was! :eek:

I am not filled with confidence that this game will live up to any hype it once had. However if it is a good game and I do enjoy it, I will say as much and then perhaps I will look upon Arlie in a better "light" (as if that means anything to him).

Hmm did everyone get that exciting e-mail about OOTPBM? I wonder if BBCF will come out before it;) (for those not in the know Spring-2006) :rolleyes:

[Passacaglia]

Casual (read: weenie) gamers won't be moved to buy a college game until next August/September when the next season rolls around, but if BBCF is a good game, they'll buy it then.

You mean the same kind of gamers that would rather have recruiting done in the offseason? :D

[SkyDog]

You mean the same kind of gamers that would rather have recruiting done in the offseason? :DYou know it. ;)

[chammer39]

Will I have to set my release date back from Thanksgiving? Stay tuned.

[Cardinal Rule]

In related news, despite reports to the contrary, the sky is not actually falling. :)

[Doomba]

Wow, such hatred towards me. You guys need to be shunning the game the way you shun me. Afterall, I'm the one you can count on.. but you losers have been sitting here hopelessly waiting for this game for months now.

[Tim Plum]

Arlie would like to thank you himself Doomba because your constant posting in this and other threads have kept interest in the game high, so for the many extra copies of BBCF that will sell, thanks.

I do not speak for or know any member of GDS.

[jonlawson]

You losers have been sitting around waiting for the game...
You're still visiting and posting also bud :) ahem *cough cough*

[Dirk9827]

I think we could all benefit from the wisdom of former Marquette basketball coach Al McGuire, who said, "Show me an obnoxious fan, and I'll show you a guy dominated by his wife."

The anti-social behavior of select message board posters confirms what we all know: behind some keyboard, somewhere, is a guy who couldn't earn two cents of respect in the outside world, and thus, takes out his frustrations online. Like the coach who has to ignore the taunts of your average ignoramus in the stands, I would suggest everyone just ignore this guy. He doesn’t add anything to the discussion at all. Responding to him just serves his need to feel important. .

[BigDawg]

LIFE ...... GET ONE !!!!!!

:eek:

[chammer39]

Well sometimes we have to face the facts of a game being behind schedule and not turn the blinders on, but I still say Thanksgiving.

[21C__]

but I still say Thanksgiving.
Polly want a cracker?

[chammer39]

Nope, but a turkey will work.

[Cooleyvol]

give it a rest. Its getting old, believe me.

[chammer39]

What, the release date?

[Doomba]

Aww.. it's so cute how up and together you all are against me. ;) It's even cuter when you try to analyze me and my lack of life or anything else to do. I think it's very interesting to be the subject of such analogies by a group of "grown men" who will be neglecting the female race, actual life as it is, and staring at this worthless computer game for hours on in...

I feel bad for you guys, really. If you're going to worship the ground that some game was programmed on, atleast choose a game that will be remotely good and actually released on time. Sheesh! :)

[diamonddave35]

This guy obviously has no life....What an idiot

[Cooleyvol]

Aww.. it's so cute how up and together you all are against me. ;) It's even cuter when you try to analyze me and my lack of life or anything else to do. I think it's very interesting to be the subject of such analogies by a group of "grown men" who will be neglecting the female race, actual life as it is, and staring at this worthless computer game for hours on in...

I feel bad for you guys, really. If you're going to worship the ground that some game was programmed on, atleast choose a game that will be remotely good and actually released on time. Sheesh! :)

I was actually talking to chammer39, but you seem to fit the bill as well.

Worship? I'm not doing that at all, just really tired of all the bitching about the release of the game. Why don't you just leave these boards if you're so disenfranchized with GD? Why waste your time at a place where you feel the need to constantly gripe and moan?

Me? I pop in once or twice daily to see if the game has released and then move along quietly, not even posting on most days. Why not try that?

[boozie1580]

Hmm, not trying to analyze anyone and for me I rather spend my countless hours playing sport sim games than cruzing the internet for GAY MALE PORN like our buddy DOOOOOOMBA does.

Real mature.

[chammer39]

It doesn't matter what people think because the game will be out by Thanksgiving.

[Cardinal Rule]

It doesn't matter what people think because the game will be out by Thanksgiving.

The first part of that is right, for sure. The second part, we'll see in a few days. :)

[BigDawg]

Yippy I Am Post 100 !!!!!! :d

[Celts-Sonics Fan]

Yippy I Am Post 100 !!!!!! :d

Looks like you are a little premature there.... :D

[chammer39]

Yep, it looks like I'm post 100.

[Kelly J Delaney]

Now,

Thats good news.