Invader Zim - Beepocalypse Official Game Thread

[SuperOwens]

SO. Do you suspect that you and I have the same role color?

Yep :)

Had you down as the same as me from about day 1.

[d_w_w]

Yep :)

Had you down as the same as me from about day 1.

Thought so :)

[Waghlon]

Checking in.

Insisting that i would have voted for whoever we lynched last night but C-bot preempted me.

Cashing check.

Checking out.

[BHK1978]

Checking in.

Insisting that i would have voted for whoever we lynched last night but C-bot preempted me.

Cashing check.

Checking out.

I have to say I do not understand half of what you say in the majority of your posts.:o:D

[400 ml]

Yes. TBP is dead. Woo.

And whoever said my avatar looked like Bruno is gonna get killed next.

[masterded]

Yes. TBP is dead. Woo.

And whoever said my avatar looked like Bruno is gonna get killed next.

To be fair it does look like Bruno. That is why I had to ask who it was as I knew no one would have an avatar of such a bad movie.

So does anyone have any idea what SO and dww are talking about?

[BHK1978]

To be fair it does look like Bruno. That is why I had to ask who it was as I knew no one would have an avatar of such a bad movie.

So does anyone have any idea what SO and dww are talking about?

I saw mjd in here and I thought he might have an idea. I have no idea what they are talking about.

[400 ml]

There. I changed my avatar. :P

I'd like to know what lprock is up to.

[Destiny]

I suppose I'd also like to know what lProck has been up to. It seems the pressure on SuperOwens has stalled following his communication in the thread.

[praguepride]

D-dubs and SO making nice? That sets off about as many red flags as I have on me :D

I still can't provide any useful info, but perhaps tomorrow. In the meantime, I'd like to pressure SO & d_dubs more but I've given SO a free pass this game and that wouldn't be fair to d-dub to pressure one and not the other.

I trust d-dubs more but then again, SO could easily be lying and just being "yep, I'm the same as you, uh-huh" even though he is lying out his ass and has no idea what d-dubs is.

So, for those of you more familiar with the series then I am, are there extraterrestrials that aren't invaders?

As for Trypio, it didn't look like scum lost a kill, so perhaps Zim is the mafia don (would make sense as he can disguise himself as a human child so the don powers make sense) and if the invaders were lumped into one big group, that cuold have the almighty tallest as a hitter.

Again, this seems unusual given the source, but there wasn't a lack of kills last night. What WAS interesting was that N1 there was only one death while N2 there was two. Perhaps a roleblocker stopped the SK or a protector chose wisely...

[Destiny]

Aye, I'm afraid I haven't got any substantial information to contribute either. Perhaps somebody will come online with information tomorrow.

[Zeel1]

Again, this seems unusual given the source, but there wasn't a lack of kills last night. What WAS interesting was that N1 there was only one death while N2 there was two. Perhaps a roleblocker stopped the SK or a protector chose wisely...

This is sound reasoning, but I'd like to point out that both me and MJD were pretty vocal about not thinking the scum would be able to kill us N1. They might've tried to attack one or both of us, to see if we were bluffing, which would explain them getting less kills.

[Destiny]

Zeel1, are you any the wiser as to why mjdgoldeneye targetted you he was re-directed?

[Zeel1]

Zeel1, are you any the wiser as to why mjdgoldeneye targetted you he was re-directed?

Not any more then I was when he first said it, but I beleive he pointed to a part of the write-up that night, and say that it might have been him being redirected by something else. He's been all but sure of me being town since Day 1, so there's a slight chance he was just saying that to try and clear me. Doesn't really seem like something he would do, though, so I doubt he was lying.

I can tell by a lot of posts around that time - like say, the ones were Spiker was acting remorseful for having something to do with lprock being infected - that N1 was filled with all sorts of shenanigans. I wouldn't really be surprised if he was somehow redirected. I'm actually kind of curious as to what he was trying do, though..

[Jman2k3]

Moofy nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Get them town and your reward will be cookies for avenging my death. I mean seriously who kills a girl scout. Tsk Tsk. :p

[Destiny]

I'm sorry you died so early into the game, Jman2k3, hopefully the town will be successful in avenging your death.

[Jman2k3]

I'm sorry you died so early into the game, Jman2k3, hopefully the town will be successful in avenging your death.

Yeah same here. I liked my character and the game. Oh well let's go ahead and start the next game up lol.

Good luck town. Glot enjoyed the game can't wait until your next one.

[Destiny]

OK, after attempting to target Zeel1 for the second night in a row I can safely say that he does not redirect people, so I am interested into who mjdgoldeneye ended up targetting on Night 1, as it could prove useful.

[mjdgoldeneye]

OK, after attempting to target Zeel1 for the second night in a row I can safely say that he does not redirect people, so I am interested into who mjdgoldeneye ended up targetting on Night 1, as it could prove useful.

Hopefully you didn't target him to test this because it's already been established what happened... **Facepalm**

Jman targeted me. I thought I was redirected to him. Situation handled. :rolleyes:

[Zeel1]

Just saw the episode my role was in. Towards the beggining, when he was mentioned, someone went "Don't say that name!"

Might sort of explain the whole "you lose your ability if your role's name is spoken" thing..

[mjdgoldeneye]

Just saw the episode my role was in. Towards the beggining, when he was mentioned, someone went "Don't say that name!"

Might sort of explain the whole "you lose your ability if your role's name is spoken" thing..

If anyone has to reference Zeel's role, say "CF". If you say his character's name, on purpose or not, we will lynch you. You've been warned.

So, if you don't want to be lynched, don't say the name of a character that would be abbreviated as CF. It's that easy.

[BHK1978]

mjd what do you think about the SuperOwens/dww situation? Do you have any idea what they could be talking about?

[mjdgoldeneye]

mjd what do you think about the SuperOwens/dww situation? Do you have any idea what they could be talking about?

No, not really... I've been sick for a few days and haven't had much of a chance to be useful. The best I can do is try to stop really foolish things as they happen... :o

[BHK1978]

There was something that I thought might be possible but I am not sure if it is or not.

[BHK1978]

I'm starting to think that's the point of these write-ups. The theme being ZIM gave him an excuse to make everything indecipherable. (Is that a word?)

Going to love seeing the post-game write up notes. I bet even he won't remember what everything was.. :p

Also..I realize this might be akin to giving scum a list of people to frame, but I still think it's useful to post this list of people that didn't vote for trypio:

TakerNGN74, Waghlon, Destiny, supermareo, SeanMcFly, d_w_w and Gabbo
People that couldn't:
BHK1978 (was silenced), lprock (lost ability to vote).

Jman didn't either, but he's dead, so there's no real point in bringing up suspicions on him. :p

C-Bot was the hammer, and Spiker voted after the lynch was acheived, so we could also look at that as voting to safe face. Off of that list, I think I'd like to press TakerNGN74.

Vote: TakerNGN74

He's played quietly so far - only three posts, and one of them was a vote on Spikerdude that he gave no reason for. Granted, it may have just been the Panix Effect, where voting on yourself causes others to vote for you as well..but still.


Oh, and BHK should be able to talk now.

You know the Taker thing might not be that far off. This is meta-gaming at its finest folks, so for all of you who do not like this please avert your eyes.:D

Taker has said in his diary that his computer is on the fritz. Now does this make him scum? Well no but it could very well be a Scum story.

[Zeel1]

If anyone has to reference Zeel's role, say "CF". If you say his character's name, on purpose or not, we will lynch you. You've been warned.

So, if you don't want to be lynched, don't say the name of a character that would be abbreviated as CF. It's that easy.

Appreciate that, MJD. Glad I was able to give enough hints to get it across. Fortunately for me, CF really isn't that hard to think of hints for. :cool:

[Zeel1]

You know the Taker thing might not be that far off. This is meta-gaming at its finest folks, so for all of you who do not like this please avert your eyes.:D

Taker has said in his diary that his computer is on the fritz. Now does this make him scum? Well no but it could very well be a Scum story.

Taker lying about his computer being broken in a diary and not saying anything about it in the game, in the hopes that someone playing will see it, point it out to others, and have everyone assume it is true because he said it outside of the game?!

By God! That's almost as ingenius a scum ploy as the one I made up in my head when MJD used me being barely inactive in the Futurama game as reasoning for suspecting that iMac was the don! Oh yes, I pondered for quite a while what MJD was implying when he talked about me, and I came to the most obvious conclusion - I had my hard-drive explode on purpose, so that my role could get away with not talking for a number of phases! Then, when iMac replaces me, all suspicion of me lying goes out the window, and people feel so bad for suspecting me, that they never question the don for the rest of the game's entirity! Of course! It's foolproof!

FOOLPROOF I SAY!


...but um, yeah, that aside - if we're willing to beleive SO for now, I'd be cool with pressing TakerNGN74 again. Don't really have much reason to beleive SO, though, is the thing..

[BHK1978]

I am not sure where to go, it would seem the SO thing is going nowhere, and there does not seem to be any other credible leads out there.

[BlueStar]

Got another note this phase....5 more suspects.

SuperOwens
praguepride
Gabbo
d_w_w
Destiny

[BHK1978]

Got another note this phase....5 more suspects.

SuperOwens
praguepride
Gabbo
d_w_w
Destiny

Well I guess my vote will stay on SO then. As your list was trust worthy the last time and from my own investigation.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Appreciate that, MJD. Glad I was able to give enough hints to get it across. Fortunately for me, CF really isn't that hard to think of hints for. :cool:

You'll either keep your power indefinitely or we'll get rid of scum foolish scum after you lose it.

As for BlueStar's list, I haven't read into the SO/D_w_w thing enough yet to vote. I'll try to get fully caught up by tomorrow.

[BHK1978]

I feel like I am a little slow on the uptake. But was 400 really serious about killing TBP or was that just a joke and I misread it?:o

[d_w_w]

Got another note this phase....5 more suspects.

SuperOwens
praguepride
Gabbo
d_w_w
Destiny

I'm 87% sure of SO just like I was of WC.


As for BlueStar's list, I haven't read into the SO/D_w_w thing enough yet to vote. I'll try to get fully caught up by tomorrow.

Think about how I played on D1. You can figure out where I stand.

[400 ml]

I personally would like to look into Gabbo.

What you up to, Gabbzy?

[SuperOwens]

I'm 87% sure of SO just like I was of WC.



Think about how I played on D1. You can figure out where I stand.

Indeed.

It's really not that hard to work out what alignment I am. Thought some of you were note takers :D

[BlueStar]

Change vote: no vote

[praguepride]

I personally would like to look into Gabbo.

What you up to, Gabbzy?

/nod. He's been awfully quiet...

[Gabbo]

I have been a bit quiet, but that's a combination of things. It's my last few weeks at University so I've been doing dissertation work non-stop. Also I know zero about the source material so most of the time I have no clue what's going on. :D Both of those reasons were why I was reluctant to sign-up for this game, I only did it because Glot needed the numbers.

That and I have no active ability, so no information to share. I wish I could be more of a help. So frustrating. I don't mind saying I'm bulletproof. Not fully, but obviously I don't want to go into the mechanics of it, because it opens me right up. Maybe killers will come my way and test it tonight. I'm on your side though, no aliens, no hosting virus', no non-earth malarky. Humanity all the way.

Someone said something about not voting for Trypio, I also didn't vote for WC. Get those cogs turning... Very clever way of balancing the role.

I know what SO and DWW are hinting at, and it may be true but don't rule out a little scum plot. However, I did figure there were 3 or 4 of them as soon as he opened his mouth. I am still very weary of them all since Anti speculated they are 'upgraders'. Interesting that SO featured on both lists too, would a don be a killer?

That said, I know I'm safe and will give DWW and SO the benefit of the doubt (maybe someone should look into them tonight, watchers etc?), so that leaves me with PP and Destiny. Destiny said something, I vaguely recall, so...

vote: praguepride

Rare to have two uses of forensic investigator roles though. Rare, indeedy. Unless we're still looking for the same killer with the same DNA...

[Gabbo]

Wait a second, SuperOwens & D_w_w you're both trying to capture Zim, yeah?

[SuperOwens]

Wait a second, SuperOwens & D_w_w you're both trying to capture Zim, yeah?

Cant speak for D_w_w but i'm not, in fact I would venture that was another of WC's little don't kill me ploys. Doesn't fit in with my role at all.

And to clear something up, I cant talk to anybody outside the thread. I have no idea who else may be green. I just picked up on D_w_w because of the whole WC thing. We may have completely different win conditions, I have been starnded here for 7 years and just want to get off.

[Imarevenant]

D-dubs and SO making nice? That sets off about as many red flags as I have on me :D

I still can't provide any useful info, but perhaps tomorrow. In the meantime, I'd like to pressure SO & d_dubs more but I've given SO a free pass this game and that wouldn't be fair to d-dub to pressure one and not the other.

I trust d-dubs more but then again, SO could easily be lying and just being "yep, I'm the same as you, uh-huh" even though he is lying out his ass and has no idea what d-dubs is.

So, for those of you more familiar with the series then I am, are there extraterrestrials that aren't invaders?

As for Trypio, it didn't look like scum lost a kill, so perhaps Zim is the mafia don (would make sense as he can disguise himself as a human child so the don powers make sense) and if the invaders were lumped into one big group, that cuold have the almighty tallest as a hitter.

Again, this seems unusual given the source, but there wasn't a lack of kills last night. What WAS interesting was that N1 there was only one death while N2 there was two. Perhaps a roleblocker stopped the SK or a protector chose wisely...

The two kills this night caught me by surprise as well. There has to be some type of reason, it fluctuated from night 1 to 2.

Taker lying about his computer being broken in a diary and not saying anything about it in the game, in the hopes that someone playing will see it, point it out to others, and have everyone assume it is true because he said it outside of the game?!

By God! That's almost as ingenius a scum ploy as the one I made up in my head when MJD used me being barely inactive in the Futurama game as reasoning for suspecting that iMac was the don! Oh yes, I pondered for quite a while what MJD was implying when he talked about me, and I came to the most obvious conclusion - I had my hard-drive explode on purpose, so that my role could get away with not talking for a number of phases! Then, when iMac replaces me, all suspicion of me lying goes out the window, and people feel so bad for suspecting me, that they never question the don for the rest of the game's entirity! Of course! It's foolproof!

FOOLPROOF I SAY!


...but um, yeah, that aside - if we're willing to beleive SO for now, I'd be cool with pressing TakerNGN74 again. Don't really have much reason to beleive SO, though, is the thing..

LOL

Got another note this phase....5 more suspects.

SuperOwens
praguepride
Gabbo
d_w_w
Destiny

Interesting.

DWW and SO, I'm willing to give a pass to at this time (although it's worrisome to see one person on it twice).

PP, Gabbo, and Destiny obviously need to be questioned however. Would like to hear a little from all of them before making a decisions myself. With Gabbo already giving something, PP, Destiny, anything you could give to ease suspicions on yourselves. Not asking for a claim or anything, just something.

[Gabbo]

Cant speak for D_w_w but i'm not, in fact I would venture that was another of WC's little don't kill me ploys. Doesn't fit in with my role at all.

And to clear something up, I cant talk to anybody outside the thread. I have no idea who else may be green. I just picked up on D_w_w because of the whole WC thing. We may have completely different win conditions, I have been starnded here for 7 years and just want to get off.

Yeah, we know you can't talk outside the thread. Suggesting the Zim hunt doesn't fit in with your role, then you're implying your best interests are not aligned with the town, yeah? Or suggesting Zim is himself aligned with the town in some way? Clarify that, if you can.

D_w_w, answer that too. Unless you wanna admit you're searching for Zim too.

Heres the thing; the killer in N1 was a she.


With the dead, blank stare she watched.

*collapse*

And smiled. Aw...what about his broom? WHAT ABOUT HIS BROOOOOOOM?!


We lynched Trypio, who turned out to be:


Trypio is dead. He was The Almighty Tallest: Irken Empire Aligned Snack Loving Leaders

Glot even clarified Trypio was a man.

One heartbroken little girl who's apparently on her period just took out two of the most feared, wanted men in the universe

I think this is her killing last night.


Aiming herself well, she took the shot.

A miss.

So she re-aimed and just took another...


Meaning Trypio wasn't the one who killed Antithesis. In my last post I pondered as to whether two forensic investigations was unbalanced. It wasn't - because we're still looking for the original killer with the original DNA. Step forward SuperOwens. Also answers the don as a killer question. Seems we just got lucky lynching the wrong guy who also turned out to be scum. I think I know who SO may be, but would rather him offer it all up.

change vote: superowens.

Sorry, dude.

[Zeel1]

Someone said something about not voting for Trypio, I also didn't vote for WC. Get those cogs turning... Very clever way of balancing the role.

Nod to that.

With the dead, blank stare she watched.

*collapse*

And smiled. Aw...what about his broom? WHAT ABOUT HIS BROOOOOOOM?!

Dead, blank stare...Tak, or maybe Gaz?

One heartbroken little girl who's apparently on her period just took out two of the most feared, wanted men in the universe

Uh..that was Trypio being lynched. Every lynching apparantly uses differant giant monsters to destroy those being lynched. WC was killed by Peepi in the write-up, and that lynch was based off of..another episode that I've heard of, but have yet to see. It's just a very flavorful game.

By the way, I've found a site on which to watch all of the episodes. On about the 10th so far. Soon, you can all pencil me in as being completely knowledgable about the theme. :cool:

[d_w_w]

D_w_w, answer that too. Unless you wanna admit you're searching for Zim too.


le sigh.

I am, in fact, looking for Zim.

Hate to put that out there, but no choice at this point. I understand why SO might lie about this, but if he's really not after Zim, I'm not sure how I feel about our supposed shared alignment.

[d_w_w]

also,

Gabbo is not Zim. But he is someone that I probably recognize, so I think we can confirm his alienness.

[praguepride]

I don't know about the accuracy of all that glotnot said, but one thing is interesting is that SuperOwens appears on both lists, yah?

As for myself...I really can't say more then I've already said without forcing a full claim and becoming completely ineffectual.

Right now I'm a partial scum target. If I remain evasive, I stay alive longer to help out town. If I full claim, I'm dead tonight.

[praguepride]

Night 1

-----

He walked swiftly to his target...

Then he grabbed his target...and then he said:

”Tell me what you know!”

-----



I can reveal that I am the target in this write up N1. From the tone of this and the "full length" PM I got, it sounds like I was investigated by someone. The fact that someone didn't come forward and say "Hey, PP's scum!" should be a good indicator. Now, I'd rather not force an investigator to out themselves to clear me, so we'll try this approach to provide info without giving scum power roles on a silver platter.

[d_w_w]

I can reveal that I am the target in this write up N1. From the tone of this and the "full length" PM I got, it sounds like I was investigated by someone. The fact that someone didn't come forward and say "Hey, PP's scum!" should be a good indicator. Now, I'd rather not force an investigator to out themselves to clear me, so we'll try this approach to provide info without giving scum power roles on a silver platter.

/nod, I actually believe you right now.

Thought I believed SO, less sure now that I know he's not after the same goal as me.

Thoughts on Destiny?

[praguepride]

Thoughts on Destiny?

Scum? :D

He's unreadable as always to me...

[d_w_w]

Scum? :D

He's unreadable as always to me...

We know he's claimed to have targeted Zeel two nights in a row. If we believe that, he's not the killer.

[SuperOwens]

Yeah, we know you can't talk outside the thread. Suggesting the Zim hunt doesn't fit in with your role, then you're implying your best interests are not aligned with the town, yeah? Or suggesting Zim is himself aligned with the town in some way? Clarify that, if you can.

D_w_w, answer that too. Unless you wanna admit you're searching for Zim too.

Heres the thing; the killer in N1 was a she.



We lynched Trypio, who turned out to be:



Glot even clarified Trypio was a man.



I think this is her killing last night.



Meaning Trypio wasn't the one who killed Antithesis. In my last post I pondered as to whether two forensic investigations was unbalanced. It wasn't - because we're still looking for the original killer with the original DNA. Step forward SuperOwens. Also answers the don as a killer question. Seems we just got lucky lynching the wrong guy who also turned out to be scum. I think I know who SO may be, but would rather him offer it all up.

change vote: superowens.

Sorry, dude.

Think you have miss-read the write-up there. You have also overlooked the fact I put myself in the write-up. As that appears in my PM, as most of you will know. I don't see any killing going on there, just me crying.

As for me looking for Zim, no I'm not. I just want off the planet. Now put that with the fact I was crying and see what that's a nod to.

[SuperOwens]

I have been a bit quiet, but that's a combination of things. It's my last few weeks at University so I've been doing dissertation work non-stop. Also I know zero about the source material so most of the time I have no clue what's going on. :D Both of those reasons were why I was reluctant to sign-up for this game, I only did it because Glot needed the numbers.

That and I have no active ability, so no information to share. I wish I could be more of a help. So frustrating. I don't mind saying I'm bulletproof. Not fully, but obviously I don't want to go into the mechanics of it, because it opens me right up. Maybe killers will come my way and test it tonight. I'm on your side though, no aliens, no hosting virus', no non-earth malarky. Humanity all the way.

Someone said something about not voting for Trypio, I also didn't vote for WC. Get those cogs turning... Very clever way of balancing the role.

I know what SO and DWW are hinting at, and it may be true but don't rule out a little scum plot. However, I did figure there were 3 or 4 of them as soon as he opened his mouth. I am still very weary of them all since Anti speculated they are 'upgraders'. Interesting that SO featured on both lists too, would a don be a killer?

That said, I know I'm safe and will give DWW and SO the benefit of the doubt (maybe someone should look into them tonight, watchers etc?), so that leaves me with PP and Destiny. Destiny said something, I vaguely recall, so...

vote: praguepride

Rare to have two uses of forensic investigator roles though. Rare, indeedy. Unless we're still looking for the same killer with the same DNA...

I also find the bolded part interesting, given D_w_w's result. Just how many people stay at home in this game anyway?

[praguepride]

We know he's claimed to have targeted Zeel two nights in a row. If we believe that, he's not the killer.

That's a very dangerous assumption to make. How many people did Jaded target in Host that "didn't die"

Didn't change the fact that he was practically scum MVP, at least role wise...

Assuming a power game is in effect, scum aren't vanilla either. They have trackers, watchers, redirecters, framers, blockers etc. as well.

[SuperOwens]

Not really a lot of discussion going on here... Okay, as im soon heading off and with lot of players happy to jump on the wagon, I will try to alleviate some fears so I don't wake up lynched tomorrow.

First off, make sure you use your brains here guys. If I'm a mafia hitman I dont put myself in the spotlight like that, I definitely don't try to defend WC so vocally. So why did I?

To be fair I didn't believe the Zim thing but as soon as he said he was green and he had to survive to the end I was fairly certain he was being honest about that.

Gh'ok Space Sergeant Schnooky: Non-Earth Aligned Cute Little Noogums

Im green, and I have to make it to the end. Now I do have a mini-game that I need to complete as well to meet my condition, it has nothing to do with Zim though. And I dont have to kill/capture anyone. Non-earth aligned are the indies of this game.

As for going out and killing, I have pointed to myself in the night 2 writeup, here.

Finally reaching its mark, the thing looked up.

The tears it spilled, could fill a cup.

It was just so happy.

This is me in night 1

He crawled towards his target, taking cover at regular intervals.

Perhaps-

No. But soon.

I know its me as its a snippet from my PM. Those of you that go out will know that's how it works. There is no killing going on there. If you remember I said night one something weird happened, I targeted MJ and didn't seem to reach him.

As you can tell from the writeup night 2, I am happy. As of this moment my condition is met, though I have a funny feeling that could change with the way this game has been setup.

Im not really sure where Gabbo is coming from with his thinking and I dont understand his role. Somebody will need to explain to me why he couldn't vote on WC or Trips. He put a vote on PP and me easy enough. I'd also like to point out that we now have 3 townies that cant be killed and 3 townies that dont go out a night.

[d_w_w]

That's a very dangerous assumption to make. How many people did Jaded target in Host that "didn't die"

Didn't change the fact that he was practically scum MVP, at least role wise...

Assuming a power game is in effect, scum aren't vanilla either. They have trackers, watchers, redirecters, framers, blockers etc. as well.

Not really, I only said that if Destiny is targeting Zeel1 he's not the killer. Never said he wasn't scum.

Remember, this discussion is based on the names (which you and I) on the list.

[praguepride]

Those of you that go out will know that's how it works.

I noted this early D2...

[d_w_w]

Anyhow, I'd probably be happy to vote on Gabbo now.

My result on him suggested that I would recognize him. No idea why I would, if he wasn't an alien... and IIRC, he's claiming to not be an alien.

[praguepride]

Anyhow, I'd probably be happy to vote on Gabbo now.

My result on him suggested that I would recognize him. No idea why I would, if he wasn't an alien... and IIRC, he's claiming to not be an alien.

I'm on your side though, no aliens, no hosting virus', no non-earth malarky. Humanity all the way.


Your recollection is correct.

[Zeel1]

Not really, I only said that if Destiny is targeting Zeel1 he's not the killer. Never said he wasn't scum.

Remember, this discussion is based on the names (which you and I) on the list.

When I first saw you say this, I figured you meant that if he were the killer, he wouldn't be as audible about targeting people, but saying this makes it seem like your saying it's simply because he targeted me..you did see how we established that I can't be killed at night, right? He could easily still be a killer.

[d_w_w]

When I first saw you say this, I figured you meant that if he were the killer, he wouldn't be as audible about targeting people, but saying this makes it seem like your saying it's simply because he targeted me..you did see how we established that I can't be killed at night, right? He could easily still be a killer.

I'm trying to be patient with folks, but I get the sinking suspicion that attention levels are down lately. This game. Futurama. Host.

I never said he couldn't be scum. I said he can't be the killer on the list IF he really is targeting you at night. I don't know if he's really targeting you or not, but given that it's Destiny, I wouldn't doubt that he'd target you twice to verify that you weren't redirecting people (despite the fact that MJD worked this out already).

However, if he is targeting you, he cannot be the killer on the BlueStar list. Unless I'm way off, Blue's list is an FI list. One of the people on that list killed someone. You're still alive. Ergo, he's not that killer.

[d_w_w]

Your recollection is correct.

Okay.

Gabbo, why would I kind of recognize you if you aren't an alien?

[Glotnot]

Vote Count

SuperOwens - 3 - BHK1978, Zeel1, Gabbo

It is now Day Phase.

With 20 players remaining, it's 11 to lynch.

You have until 8:00 PM EST (1:00 AM GMT) on Tuesday, March 9th (Wednesday, March 10th) to achieve lynch. If no lynch is achieved by that time, a no lynch will be declared.

If I've missed someone, send me a shoutout.

[praguepride]

Vote: Gaboo

CUE THE MUSIC! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtrEN-YKLBM)

[Destiny]

By that I assume you are looking to add pressure on Gabbo by voting for him. I may add my vote in due course.

[praguepride]

By that I assume you are looking to add pressure on Gabbo by voting for him. I may add my vote in due course.

/puts finger on the nose.

[Zeel1]

/puts finger on the nose.

Santa?

[Zeel1]

Vote: Gaboo

Seeing as you aren't MLT, I doubt you'll be able to get away with that. :p

[praguepride]

Seeing as you aren't MLT, I doubt you'll be able to get away with that. :p

Maybe that wasn't a mistake?

[d_w_w]

Had hoped to hear an answer to my question. Not sure how strongly I feel about this, but hate to see the phase waste away without some progress.

Vote: Gabbo

[Jaded]

As d_w_w says, need to get some progress here.

Vote: Gabbo

[Zeel1]

Change Vote: Gabbo

Pressure on SO has officially dropped..seems like we have solid enough reasons to press Gabbo.

[BHK1978]

Yeah I see the writing is on the wall for the SuperOwens thing, plus he made a good case for himself. So for now I am willing to look else where.

Change Vote: No Vote

As far as Gabbo goes, well I am not sure about that so I probably will not put a vote on him unless you need me for the majority.

[BlueStar]

Vote: Gabbo

Well, he's on the list.

[Waghlon]

Vote: Gabbo

Progress, its not just a buzzword anymore.

[Gabbo]

Okay.

Gabbo, why would I kind of recognize you if you aren't an alien?

No idea. Maybe bus driver, maybe framer, maybe this weird re-direction thing that afflicated MJD? Maybe you're playing a game with me. Maybe your insanity is debatable. But I don't know. I really don't.

I claimed that under minimal pressure and very early, not gonna do it if it's not true.

Im not really sure where Gabbo is coming from with his thinking and I dont understand his role. Somebody will need to explain to me why he couldn't vote on WC or Trips. He put a vote on PP and me easy enough. I'd also like to point out that we now have 3 townies that cant be killed and 3 townies that dont go out a night.

It's not 100% bulletproof as I said. My vote won't be on anyone come the under of the end phase, hence why I removed it from Zeel close to the end of day 2. If my vote is on anyone at the end of the day I am not bulletproof. S'why I said it was a nice mechanic, I either vote or save myself. I just see it as a way to get 5/6 phases into the game then when I'm needed to complete a lynch I have to step up.

Fact is if we believe SO and DWW, that means Destiny or PP are the killer. What has PP offered up? I don't recall much, but I'm not following properly. Destiny has made two strange choices, don't see why he had to test the untargetable claim. Don't know where to lean, the man who I know nothing of, or the man who's made questionable decisions.

One of them is the killer. Unless DWW is and is pulling the wool over my eyes.


Anyone remind me what PP has claimed so far?

[Gabbo]

Maybe your sanity*

[SuperOwens]

I noted this early D2...

And?

What value does that add to any discussion. Unless your saying I'm lying about where I am in the write-ups?

I'm trying to be patient with folks, but I get the sinking suspicion that attention levels are down lately. This game. Futurama. Host.


This right here, I dont even know if people are reading posts any more.

[SuperOwens]

No idea. Maybe bus driver, maybe framer, maybe this weird re-direction thing that afflicated MJD? Maybe you're playing a game with me. Maybe your insanity is debatable. But I don't know. I really don't.

I claimed that under minimal pressure and very early, not gonna do it if it's not true.



It's not 100% bulletproof as I said. My vote won't be on anyone come the under of the end phase, hence why I removed it from Zeel close to the end of day 2. If my vote is on anyone at the end of the day I am not bulletproof. S'why I said it was a nice mechanic, I either vote or save myself. I just see it as a way to get 5/6 phases into the game then when I'm needed to complete a lynch I have to step up.

Fact is if we believe SO and DWW, that means Destiny or PP are the killer. What has PP offered up? I don't recall much, but I'm not following properly. Destiny has made two strange choices, don't see why he had to test the untargetable claim. Don't know where to lean, the man who I know nothing of, or the man who's made questionable decisions.

One of them is the killer. Unless DWW is and is pulling the wool over my eyes.


Anyone remind me what PP has claimed so far?

Okay, thanks. That makes more sense (probably should have thought of that myself :p)

[Gabbo]

I'm going out to look for a house in a sec, finishing Uni sucks...

change vote: no vote.

In the event someone is lynched whilst I'm gone. SO, what do we know about PP?

[SuperOwens]

I'm going out to look for a house in a sec, finishing Uni sucks...

change vote: no vote.

In the event someone is lynched whilst I'm gone. SO, what do we know about PP?

Not much. He was very vocal about lynching WC, and then said we should look at the neutrals who stayed quiet after he came up green. His character has only been in one episode. A lot of ppl will be in that boat though.

That's all I have.

[praguepride]

That's all I have.

you've been missing out on information then :D

As for attention & posting I'm still around but due to a fuster-cludge elsewhere on the forums I'm trying to take a bit of a break. I'm still around, just not posting as much.

Some people find me abrasive... don't know where they could possibly get that idea... :D

mafia is a bad influence ;)

[SuperOwens]

you've been missing out on information then :D

As for attention & posting I'm still around but due to a fuster-cludge elsewhere on the forums I'm trying to take a bit of a break. I'm still around, just not posting as much.

Some people find me abrasive... don't know where they could possibly get that idea... :D

mafia is a bad influence ;)

Maybe, maybe not.

Though I don't take notes for small games, and I'm more interested in completing my condition than finding scum.

I will say now, and I have almost said this a few times but stopped myself. I'm not completely convinced by these lists.

[praguepride]

You mean, the list that helped catch a scum hitter? (maybe)

[SuperOwens]

You mean, the list that helped catch a scum hitter? (maybe)

You know very well that I do, you also know that I'm not stupid enough to have missed that, so why all this pointless sarcasm?

I have doubts about the list, but you know Im happy to vote for the people left on there that haven't proved themselves in anyway, if that's what the majority wants.

[Destiny]

At this precise moment in time I am find to trust the list of possible killers, despite my name being on the most recent one.

[praguepride]

Thanks for the update, D!

[SuperOwens]

Indeed. seen you posting all over the board today. Nice of you to come in here and say Hi.

[praguepride]

Indeed. seen you posting all over the board today. Nice of you to come in here and say Hi.

Won't be in for long, I'm asking to be replaced. S*** just turned into serious buzness ;)

[SuperOwens]

Won't be in for long, I'm asking to be replaced. S*** just turned into serious buzness ;)

I was talking about Destiny bud. Everything okay with you?

[praguepride]

I was talking about Destiny bud. Everything okay with you?

Nah, I'm probably going to get banned soon anyway ;)


(remember, smilies = jokes...can't believe I have to remind people about that).

If you really want to know, shoot me a PM. I'd rather keep my vent rants private :D

[d_w_w]

mafia is a bad influence ;)

/nod

On so many levels.

Honestly, I don't know what to make of Gabbo. I don't know my character or the show well enough to know if I would, for some reason, be familiar with a non-alien. Or perhaps he's right and there was some funny business going on.

Not sure where to go from here.

[Gabbo]

You mean, the list that helped catch a scum hitter? (maybe)

It didn't find the killer night 1. We just got lucky. The killer night 1 was a girl, something Trypio was not.

If that's the case Blue is lying or being caught in a ploy since everyone else kinda cleared themselves now. Meaning no-one is the first list was the killer.

I'm male if that helps any, Destiny or PP want to claim female?

To state the facts again. We did not find the killer from night 1. There were two kills night 2. One of them was the killer from night 1, a girl. The other kill is a possibility. But someone on that first list killed again night 2. So it's either SuperOwens still killing or Blue is lying/being tricked.

Thought about today and I'm leaning towards not believing the lists, despite Destiny's questionable targets and PP's odd attitude. The votes did come down on me and in quick succession. Blue, Waggy and Jaded raining down in less than two hours.

I'm at a loss of what to do, maybe someone looks into the list or Blue tonight? I don't know to what end but if you have an ability that you think will clear it up use it.

In the meantime maybe look at the inactives like Sean, Taker or supermareo? I can't kick start any pressure as I'm going out to play football in an hour and don't want to be caught with a vote on going into night.

Or maybe Blue starts talking and we at least rule out the possibility that he's scum rather than just being manipulated.

[Destiny]

I doubt BlueStar would lie about getting forensic investigator lists this early into the game.

[Gabbo]

We'll leave WIFOM for someone who'll buy into it. I won't.


Read the bold part again. It. does. not. make. sense. The night 1 killer is still alive. Apparently. The killer was not Trypio,

[Destiny]

FAir enough. Well, I don't mind admitting to being a female, but I am Humanity Aligned.

[supermareo]

ok lets say the list is false that gives two options

1) blue is being tricked/is an incomptent FI (arnt all the characters in the cartoon this is based off supposed to be incompitent in some way?)

2) blue is scum leading us up false avenues


im leaning towards 1 as i cant see scum putting the freaking don on a list of potential suspects it would be an asanine play

[Zeel1]

So either SO did it or BlueStar's lying, and if that's the case..is he individually aligned? I really doubt he'd put his don on the list, and while I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a second scum group, I don't really see it in a game of this size..

But..that would make for, what, the fourth or fifth individually aligned claim so far? Seems a bit much..

[Zeel1]

So either SO did it or BlueStar's lying, and if that's the case..is he individually aligned? I really doubt he'd put his don on the list, and while I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a second scum group, I don't really see it in a game of this size..

But..that would make for, what, the fourth or fifth individually aligned claim so far? Seems a bit much..

*Or is being tricked/one of the insane investigators, should've noted. :p Just pondering what that would make him, if he was lying.

[Destiny]

I think that if BlueStar isn't town then he could be a Survivor. That way he wouldn't have to worry about who we lynch from the lists.

[Zeel1]

I think that if BlueStar isn't town then he could be a Survivor. That way he wouldn't have to worry about who we lynch from the lists.

But putting himself out there as a Forensics Investigator would make himself a target to scum - especially if he lists one of them. And being outed as lying about it would make himself a strong candidate for a lynching. Doesn't seem like a very effective Survivor Tactic, no matter who you're trying to appeal to..

[Gabbo]

The three paths of Bluestar (lying, tricked, or an incompetent FI) all have the same end result. The lists are invalid.

Blue, you said you got notes. Were they from your own investigations or did someone give them to you? You may have mentioned this before, but I'm not keeping notes.

---

Thinking about the structure. 25 players. 4 indies, 4 man scum group = 17 vs 4 vs 4. That would be a touch close, depending on roles, 17 vs 8. Or even 3 indies and two groups of three. 16 vs 9? Could be done. I kinda think these 'non-earth' aligned are potential recruitees. Maybe Zim is a cult leader, or the Almighty Tallest was. These alignments are gonna shift, I reckonz. Spiker's virus could be a protector?

[Zeel1]

Spiker's virus could be a protector?

With the repurcussions being a balance for long-term protection? I guess I could maybe get the eternal roleblocking, seeing as that's pretty much just replacing what you have with bulletproof abilities.

Taking away voting rights seems to be going a little too far, though..

[BlueStar]

The three paths of Bluestar (lying, tricked, or an incompetent FI) all have the same end result. The lists are invalid.

Blue, you said you got notes. Were they from your own investigations or did someone give them to you? You may have mentioned this before, but I'm not keeping notes.

---

Thinking about the structure. 25 players. 4 indies, 4 man scum group = 17 vs 4 vs 4. That would be a touch close, depending on roles, 17 vs 8. Or even 3 indies and two groups of three. 16 vs 9? Could be done. I kinda think these 'non-earth' aligned are potential recruitees. Maybe Zim is a cult leader, or the Almighty Tallest was. These alignments are gonna shift, I reckonz. Spiker's virus could be a protector?

I don't go out at night. I've said this several times...not acknowledging that is just ... strange.

I got these notes at the start of the phase....when Glot seems to get done PM-ing.

[BlueStar]

It didn't find the killer night 1. We just got lucky. The killer night 1 was a girl, something Trypio was not.

If that's the case Blue is lying or being caught in a ploy since everyone else kinda cleared themselves now. Meaning no-one is the first list was the killer.

I'm male if that helps any, Destiny or PP want to claim female?

To state the facts again. We did not find the killer from night 1. There were two kills night 2. One of them was the killer from night 1, a girl. The other kill is a possibility. But someone on that first list killed again night 2. So it's either SuperOwens still killing or Blue is lying/being tricked.

Thought about today and I'm leaning towards not believing the lists, despite Destiny's questionable targets and PP's odd attitude. The votes did come down on me and in quick succession. Blue, Waggy and Jaded raining down in less than two hours.

I'm at a loss of what to do, maybe someone looks into the list or Blue tonight? I don't know to what end but if you have an ability that you think will clear it up use it.

In the meantime maybe look at the inactives like Sean, Taker or supermareo? I can't kick start any pressure as I'm going out to play football in an hour and don't want to be caught with a vote on going into night.

Or maybe Blue starts talking and we at least rule out the possibility that he's scum rather than just being manipulated.

What? I have been giving all the info that I can give.

1) Someone is sending me info. If it's true or not, I don't know. I don't know who is. But hey, it bagged us a don-man. If scum is sending it, I'm sure it would leave out Don-man.
2) I don't go out. I've said that.
3) I'm town.

[Zeel1]

What? I have been giving all the info that I can give.

1) Someone is sending me info. If it's true or not, I don't know. I don't know who is. But hey, it bagged us a don-man. If scum is sending it, I'm sure it would leave out Don-man.
2) I don't go out. I've said that.
3) I'm town.

Hmm..

I've heard of Investigators that have to send their results to someone else. Wasn't aware that the same rules could apply for a Forensics Investigator, but that's what this is starting to sound like..

[BlueStar]

But putting himself out there as a Forensics Investigator would make himself a target to scum - especially if he lists one of them. And being outed as lying about it would make himself a strong candidate for a lynching. Doesn't seem like a very effective Survivor Tactic, no matter who you're trying to appeal to..

Nope, I'd pull a Host play then.

Personally, I think one of the 5 on the list is the killer. I also think Trypio wasn't the killer N1. A Don doesn't kill normally.

Leaves SO as a prime candidate, to be honest. Though Gabbo being on there, especially with the previous posts, seems ... interesting.

[Comradebot]

What? I have been giving all the info that I can give.

1) Someone is sending me info. If it's true or not, I don't know. I don't know who is. But hey, it bagged us a don-man. If scum is sending it, I'm sure it would leave out Don-man.
2) I don't go out. I've said that.
3) I'm town.

Hmm..

I've heard of Investigators that have to send their results to someone else. Wasn't aware that the same rules could apply for a Forensics Investigator, but that's what this is starting to sound like..

Keep in mind that, as of this point, I've know seen three episodes of Invader Zim, so other than, say, Zim and the emo kid I don't know jack about the characters.

That said, I DO know a few things about mafia: 1. If The Tallest were a don, why is he showing up on a FI list? Why on EARTH (or any planet, considering the setting!) would a Don be out, the very first nights, killng people? That in itself doesn't make sense.

Seems entirely possible that:
1. We didn't catch the killer, just lucked into the don ALSO randomly being on the list.
2. The lists are completely bogus and the "note sender" is possibly scum just screwing with us, and using the fact that the most recent game before this one, Futurama, had a similar role. However, I still remember the Shape's scum role from Lakeside where he burned the town.

Heck, even with the role being townie in Futurama I used it to aid in my awesome victory.

And there's a number of reasons the don's name could've been on it, whether it's legitimate or not. Heck, maybe the scum thought it'd be clever to put his name on their with a bunch of townies, and when it came out the list was a forgery it would've made him look townie.

Alright, back to trying to figure out what the frak is going on in this game... stupid mentally exhaustive Futurama...

[Comradebot]

Nope, I'd pull a Host play then.

Personally, I think one of the 5 on the list is the killer. I also think Trypio wasn't the killer N1. A Don doesn't kill normally.

Leaves SO as a prime candidate, to be honest. Though Gabbo being on there, especially with the previous posts, seems ... interesting.

You know, I actually have something relevant to say this game and you ninja in and say it while I'm still typing it.

A curse upon your soul!

Just another quick thought: I wouldn't mind looking into ANYONE who was burned late in Host by the scum. Jman dying this early strikes me as very, very odd. PP, feeling a little vindictive?

[BHK1978]

In the meantime maybe look at the inactives like Sean, Taker or supermareo? I can't kick start any pressure as I'm going out to play football in an hour and don't want to be caught with a vote on going into night.

There seems to be a ton of inactives in this game. I mean I didn't even remember that Jaded was in this game until I saw him put a vote on you.

Meta-gaming once again, but Sean has posted elsewhere on this thread over the past couple of days. And yet he has not come in here.

I mean what do we really have against anybody? I just think that we will probably not get a lynch today.

[Zeel1]

There seems to be a ton of inactives in this game. I mean I didn't even remember that Jaded was in this game until I saw him put a vote on you. Meta-gaming once again, but Sean has posted elsewhere on this thread over the past couple of days. And yet he has not come in here.

Just because they aren't posting doesn't mean they're inactive, remember. A lot of people just like to keep a low profile. Most scum don't post much, so people don't notice them.

For example, guys like Jaded and Supermareo never post much. That's just how they play.

[Jaded]

There seems to be a ton of inactives in this game. I mean I didn't even remember that Jaded was in this game until I saw him put a vote on you.


I'm not INactive, I just don't have much to say. Even if it IS now between 12 noon and 12 midnight.

[SuperOwens]

I dont think there is much more I can say in my defence here. If your seriously considering me as scum then you aren't thinking about mafia or the way I play it.

Nobody has come out and said that's not you in the write-up, and they wont because it is. Where am I killing in there? Also Im male, The write-up describes me as a he and an it. It also talks about me crying, which is a massive nod to the fact my character looks like Earth's children. Seriously google my character.

Apart from this list, there is no evidence that I have killed anybody, and in fact evidence against me doing so has been pointed out.

Now on to the lists, I'm sceptical. Why am I on the top of the list both times? Seriously, I have been thinking about this, if your modding the game your trying to be as fair as possible, I just don't see that happening. Hypethetical here, if I was scum would the mod stick me on top of the list both times, surely being fair to the player they would mix it up a bit.

I know this seems petty and the hierarchy has nothing to do with it, but I cant see a mod doing that. They RNG 4 names and then stick the scum on top both times? Maybe I came out as the first RNG both times but thats mad odds.

I think more likely I was a good candidate for the list day 1 and then also day 2 when there was pressure on, who ever put it together just left me at the top and then added 4 names underneath it.

Why is the list still going to BS, why wouldn't the person sending it pick our un-killable townie? BS made himself a target with this list, you have to figure he's on scums radar, why waste a nights results when you have a locigal choice that is guaranteed to be around.

[Imarevenant]

There seems to be a ton of inactives in this game. I mean I didn't even remember that Jaded was in this game until I saw him put a vote on you.

Meta-gaming once again, but Sean has posted elsewhere on this thread over the past couple of days. And yet he has not come in here.

I mean what do we really have against anybody? I just think that we will probably not get a lynch today.

Just because they aren't posting doesn't mean they're inactive, remember. A lot of people just like to keep a low profile. Most scum don't post much, so people don't notice them.

For example, guys like Jaded and Supermareo never post much. That's just how they play.

What Zeel said. Remember assuming that someone is inactive can come back to bite you. Everyone was willing to let jester slide on through in futurama because he was inactive, it was all a ploy and his ability helped them win that game.

[masterded]

What Zeel said. Remember assuming that someone is inactive can come back to bite you. Everyone was willing to let jester slide on through in futurama because he was inactive, it was all a ploy and his ability helped them win that game.

Yeah not talking can be so many things that to label someone based on how many posts they have just doesn't work.

I thought I was confused just trying to pick up hints now I am confused about what the hell is actually going on in the game.

[Destiny]

I'm also extremely confused about what's going on in his game. We seem to have stalled.

[Waghlon]

Everyone was willing to let jester slide on through in futurama because he was inactive, it was all a ploy and his ability helped them win that game.


I spent the final three day phases screaming at you to react on that. Town blew it.

[Destiny]

Whilst you're here, I don't suppose you have any information you'd like to give to the town?

[Waghlon]

I didn't do it.

[SuperOwens]

I spent the final three day phases screaming at you to react on that. Town blew it.

In quite surprised by this, I remember the game well, and in fact most games you have been in and in fairness, I don't think you really contributed in any of them.

I didn't do it.

Case in point.

[Waghlon]

In quite surprised by this, I remember the game well, and in fact most games you have been in and in fairness, I don't think you really contributed in any of them.

Lets just take the last three actually:

Pokemon: Useless pokemon with hiding ability
Host: Roleblocker
Futurama: Scum investigator, then killer, then don.

I contribute when i can. And in Scrubs minimafia i ratted out C-bot when i investigated him when he killed someone.

[SuperOwens]

Lets just take the last three actually:

Pokemon: Useless pokemon with hiding ability
Host: Roleblocker
Futurama: Scum investigator, then killer, then don.

I contribute when i can. And in Scrubs minimafia i ratted out C-bot when i investigated him when he killed someone.

That's using your ability, not contributing. What your basically saying is, if you don't get a good role, your next to useless.

I doubt that to be the case. Would just like to hear some more from you in these games. More than just a vote and funny comments.

[Waghlon]

Im sorry. I wish i could but my ability to read things straight out of the write ups is pretty much inferior to yours. Yes i should contribute more, but would you rather have me end up accidently feed all of you bad information?

Even then, if i start trying to get involved into the going discussion, at some point someone will point at me and say "he did something scummy" at which point i will put my foot in my mouth and get myself lynched.

Im not very good at this, maybe i should be playing in the training game :p

[SuperOwens]

Im sorry. I wish i could but my ability to read things straight out of the write ups is pretty much inferior to yours. Yes i should contribute more, but would you rather have me end up accidently feed all of you bad information?

Even then, if i start trying to get involved into the going discussion, at some point someone will point at me and say "he did something scummy" at which point i will put my foot in my mouth and get myself lynched.

Im not very good at this, maybe i should be playing in the training game :p

You know what, I'll let you into a secret. I'm rubbish at deciphering write-ups, never been that great at it. I tend to only read through it once.

Another secret most of the time I'm wrong about things. Pokemon is a great example of that, I came out with loads of wild theories in that one and was completely wrong.

Dont think I'm having a go, Jaded will tell you I do this to him a lot as well :p Just dont want new players to think the game is just about pming and voting, and that people wont laugh if you make a comment on somebodies playstyle or have a theory about the game.

[Jaded]

Dont think I'm having a go, Jaded will tell you I do this to him a lot as well :p

He does this a LOT to me.

:)

[Destiny]

I'd also like to see Waghlon contribute more aswell. In terms of abiliies, I am fairly useless this game but will still try to contribute in the thread.

[mjdgoldeneye]

maybe this weird re-direction thing that afflicated MJD?


Once again, this had been addressed. I wasn't redirected. Please let everyone acknowledge this.

As for what's going on, we need to assume Blue is telling the truth. A faulty FI is a horrible, horrible idea for a role. If BlueStar is lying, we'll never survive the game because he will eventually be found out to be lying.

Let it be understood he's not a faulty FI. The contrary is too ridiculous to consider.

So, if he's lying, he's making an insanely ballsy move that we can't catch ourselves up trying to account for.

Assume the list is correct. Now, figure it out.

For the record, SO's claim could work if Moofy or CF is in as one-off characters seem to be prevalent.

[Gabbo]

Assume the list is correct. Now, figure it out.

If we assume that, SO or Zeel are lying. One of them killed Antithesis. Trypio was not a girl.

Unless Zeel has some hiding SK role I think we're better off assuming the lists are false, even more so since the same killer seems to have killed both nights yet only one name appears on both, SO*. I'd lean more towards Blue being fed bad information, with two scum groups, or even some indie sending it. Faulty FI's are rare, but two uses of an FI is also rare. So I'd be willing to bet Blue is receiving bad notes.



* I've read your defense SO, I'm not ignoring it, just using it to explain the inaccuracies in the notes.

[Destiny]

To clarify, if we are to assume that the notes are faulty, then are we to assume that the five names are taken from random?

[mjdgoldeneye]

What, exactly, clears anyone on the list unequivocally?

Not only do I see no particular reason to trust any given person on his list, I don't see how any mod with even the slightest bit of sense would include a faulty FI. It's not "rare", it's unheard of!

If the same name is on both lists and the same killer killed during both nights in question, it should be fairly obvious what our course of action should be.

Vote: SuperOwens

If he's not scum, we need to reassess what we think we know. Assuming the highly unlikely is foolish to begin with. Doing so when you can easily test a situation is worse...

[Destiny]

I'd agree that it's looking more and more likely like SuperOwens is the killer, if we are to believe the list.

[masterded]

What, exactly, clears anyone on the list unequivocally?

Not only do I see no particular reason to trust any given person on his list, I don't see how any mod with even the slightest bit of sense would include a faulty FI. It's not "rare", it's unheard of!

If the same name is on both lists and the same killer killed during both nights in question, it should be fairly obvious what our course of action should be.

Vote: SuperOwens

If he's not scum, we need to reassess what we think we know. Assuming the highly unlikely is foolish to begin with. Doing so when you can easily test a situation is worse...

Looking at all that has been said this is the most basic logic (which tends to be the best bet) and something I can get behind then.

Vote: SuperOwens

[Destiny]

I'll be around later tonight and the majority of the day tomorrow. I can therefore place my vote if I decide to then.

[masterded]

Vote Count

SuperOwens - 3 - BHK1978, Zeel1, Gabbo

It is now Day Phase.

With 20 players remaining, it's 11 to lynch.

You have until 8:00 PM EST (1:00 AM GMT) on Tuesday, March 9th (Wednesday, March 10th) to achieve lynch. If no lynch is achieved by that time, a no lynch will be declared.

If I've missed someone, send me a shoutout.

I'll be around later tonight and the majority of the day tomorrow. I can therefore place my vote if I decide to then.

Isn't the phase over in less then 2 hours?

[Zeel1]

Change Vote: SuperOwens

In my mind, everything seems to point to him..and with that,


Vote Count

SuperOwens - 3 - mjdgoldeneye, Masterded, Zeel1

Gabbo - 4 - d_w_w, Jaded, BlueStar, Waghlon

It is now Day Phase.

With 20 players remaining, it's 11 to lynch.

You have until 8:00 PM EST (1:00 AM GMT) on Tuesday, March 9th (Wednesday, March 10th) to achieve lynch. If no lynch is achieved by that time, a no lynch will be declared.

[Jaded]

Guessing this is futile, but just in case.

Change Vote: SuperOwens

[Destiny]

Ah, yes it seems that the phase is over in less than two hours. I imagine I will be online for the next hour or so.

[400 ml]

Vote: Super Owens

[Glotnot]

Vote Count

SuperOwens - 5 - mjdgoldeneye, masterded, Zeel1, Jaded, 400ml
Gabbo - 4 - praguepride, d_w_w, BlueStar, Waghlon

It is now Day Phase.

With 20 players remaining, it's 11 to lynch.

It is T-Minus 1 Hour, 13 Minutes to End of Day Phase 3. If no lynch is achieved by that time, a no lynch will be declared.

The current Quick Lynch is SuperOwens with 5/11 votes.

If I've missed someone, send me a shoutout.

[Zeel1]

I changed my vote to SuperOwens.

[Glotnot]

I changed my vote to SuperOwens.

Noted.

[mjdgoldeneye]

If you don't vote, give a reason. I'm logging the names of players that visit the thread and don't say anything.

[Destiny]

Right, at my count we're one hour away from the deadline and we need six votes to achieve a lynch.

[Imarevenant]

I'll be around later tonight and the majority of the day tomorrow. I can therefore place my vote if I decide to then.

Isn't the phase over in less then 2 hours?

Trying not to stick your neck out and blend in are you?

Honestly, I would rather you make a decision and stand by it Destiny, instead of just going with whatever is the most popular decision.

The way you are playing this situation is incredibly scummy.




As for me, SO being the only person that has twice been on the FI list points a huge red flag in his direction as does the conflicting win conditions between him and DWW / WC.

I do wish that SO would explain why his claimed win condition is so different a little better. All we know is he claims to want to go home. His secrecy regarding this concerns me enough to almost drop a vote on him at this point as I would hate to find out the completion of this condition comes at a great cost to the rest of us.

That said.

In the end it has to come down to whether or not we believe the results that are sent to Blue via a third party are legit. At the moment I'm not quite sure they are, so, this uneasiness I have regarding Blue's mysterious notes and the fact SO's claim appears to have some backing with the night write ups, it's just hard for me to lay a vote down in order to test what we think we know. It just, for me, doesn't feel right.

Anyway, I'm sorry for the rambling, with only so many chances to speak in this game I have to be a bit wordy and try to fully communicate my thoughts as I will have little opportunity to clarify what I'm trying to say.

[praguepride]

Vote: SuperOwens

Assuming I haven't been replaced already, I can do this at least...

[Destiny]

You haven't been replaced as of this moment. Hopefully you can continue to play this game.

[supermareo]

fine though i feel this is a mistake and the lists are bogus a no lynch tells us nothing

Vote: SuperOwens

[Glotnot]

Day Phase is Over!
Write-Up Coming Within 12.5 Seconds

Vote Count

SuperOwens - 7 - mjdgoldeneye, masterded, Zeel1, Jaded, 400ml, praguepride, supermareo
Gabbo - 3 - d_w_w, BlueStar, Waghlon

[Glotnot]

Day 3, The Loneliest Day
Gotcha!

The people of the city of -

*Jackhammer*

- voted in a surprise...vote, today.

The decision was far from unanimous, but as we all know, votes don't mean ****.

Anywho, they all walked out of the voting booths and saw him standing there for all to see, an example made of him.

Looking at his frail form, each of those responsible hung their heads in shame.

They would never be able to live down such a tragedy.

All of them, each individual, felt the emptiness fill them.

A strange statement at first, but one most of us know to be accurate.

Their bodies fully empty, nothing but hopelessness and despair within them, they marched, allowing the man or woman behind them to view the sickening sight on the stage.

Day Phase 3 is dead. It was Day Phase 3: Day Aligned The Loneliest Day

[Comradebot]

Oh, frak, no lynch?

Or SHANE HANNIGANS?

[Comradebot]

Oh, frak, no lynch?

Or SHANE HANNIGANS?

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP POSTING WHEN I'M POSTING?!

:(

[Glotnot]

It is now Night Phase.

You have until 10:00 PM EST (3:00 AM GMT) on Wednesday, March 10th (Thursday, March 11th) to send in your night abilities.

[Zeel1]

[SIZE="6"][B]Day Phase 3 is dead. It was Day Phase 3: Day Aligned The Loneliest Day

NOOOOOOO!!!! Why, Day Phase 3, why?!?! I lovded you, Day Phase 3! I lovded you!!! :(

[moon_lit_tears]

Day Phase 3 is dead. It was Day Phase 3: Day Aligned The Loneliest Day

Now I will nom this for role of the year on the scummies this year!

[BHK1978]

Oh, frak, no lynch?

Or SHANE HANNIGANS?

We had votes earlier on him but nobody wanted to comit. I took my vote off of him because I thought there was no chance at a lynch. Then all of a sudden there is a surge against him at the end of the phase! I would say something fishy is going on.

[SuperOwens]

Trying not to stick your neck out and blend in are you?

Honestly, I would rather you make a decision and stand by it Destiny, instead of just going with whatever is the most popular decision.

The way you are playing this situation is incredibly scummy.




As for me, SO being the only person that has twice been on the FI list points a huge red flag in his direction as does the conflicting win conditions between him and DWW / WC.

I do wish that SO would explain why his claimed win condition is so different a little better. All we know is he claims to want to go home. His secrecy regarding this concerns me enough to almost drop a vote on him at this point as I would hate to find out the completion of this condition comes at a great cost to the rest of us.

That said.

In the end it has to come down to whether or not we believe the results that are sent to Blue via a third party are legit. At the moment I'm not quite sure they are, so, this uneasiness I have regarding Blue's mysterious notes and the fact SO's claim appears to have some backing with the night write ups, it's just hard for me to lay a vote down in order to test what we think we know. It just, for me, doesn't feel right.

Anyway, I'm sorry for the rambling, with only so many chances to speak in this game I have to be a bit wordy and try to fully communicate my thoughts as I will have little opportunity to clarify what I'm trying to say.

Thank you Rev! Somebody that actually took the time and to read everything through and made a decision based on logic. That there is Mafia

What, exactly, clears anyone on the list unequivocally?

Not only do I see no particular reason to trust any given person on his list, I don't see how any mod with even the slightest bit of sense would include a faulty FI. It's not "rare", it's unheard of!

If the same name is on both lists and the same killer killed during both nights in question, it should be fairly obvious what our course of action should be.

Vote: SuperOwens

If he's not scum, we need to reassess what we think we know. Assuming the highly unlikely is foolish to begin with. Doing so when you can easily test a situation is worse...

Whilst this here is why scum won the last short game. How many info lynches do you guys want. If I was lynched and came up exactly as I said I would what would your response be? My bad?


fine though i feel this is a mistake and the lists are bogus a no lynch tells us nothing

Vote: SuperOwens

I dont agree with this lynch but I'm going to vote anyway post. A no lynch may save you the game you know. Already lynched one guy that wasn't scum

We had votes earlier on him but nobody wanted to comit. I took my vote off of him because I thought there was no chance at a lynch. Then all of a sudden there is a surge against him at the end of the phase! I would say something fishy is going on.

Seriously guys, Im begging you to actually read the posts. The phase ended. Check the posts.

I'm not town you know that, I just want to stay alive to the end of the game. But some of you townies really need to step up. Honestly MJ comes in puts a vote down and you all jump on, gotta think for yourselves a bit. :)

[Gabbo]

Thank you Rev! Somebody that actually took the time and to read everything through and made a decision based on logic. That there is Mafia

What logic is that? The list you were happy to assume is correct and true until you're fingered as the killer by process of elimination? If you're not the killer, you either discard the list or push against Zeel.

Which is it?

I've already said I think the lists are false, don't rule out the fact Blue is scum. All he has to do is find a decent fakeclaim and pretend he's been fed fake lists whilst employing a WIFOM 'why would I put myself in the spotlight this early' tactic. I'd lol if Blue was the girl killer.

Someone check Blue out tonight.

[SuperOwens]

What logic is that? The list you were happy to assume is correct and true until you're fingered as the killer by process of elimination? If you're not the killer, you either discard the list or push against Zeel.

Which is it?

I've already said I think the lists are false, don't rule out the fact Blue is scum. All he has to do is find a decent fakeclaim and pretend he's been fed fake lists whilst employing a WIFOM 'why would I put myself in the spotlight this early' tactic. I'd lol if Blue was the girl killer.

Someone check Blue out tonight.

Or you Gabbo? Or Destiny?

You'll have to point out to me in this thread where I have said I believed the lists. I don't remember doing it myself.

Pretty sure that I have only said things against them. And why would I push against people, you know my position there's no point rocking the boat.

I'm discarding them, like I have said before.

[Gabbo]

You've used them at some point, just wanted a definite answer now.

Sadly not me or Destiny. You and Zeel are the only ones alive from the N1 list. So one of you is the killer should we believe the list.

But as I've said before, the lists are probably fake. I'd just rather know now if Blue is supplying them aware of the fact or not.

[SuperOwens]

You've used them at some point, just wanted a definite answer now.

Sadly not me or Destiny. You and Zeel are the only ones alive from the N1 list. So one of you is the killer should we believe the list.

But as I've said before, the lists are probably fake. I'd just rather know now if Blue is supplying them aware of the fact or not.

Well I could argue, im not convinced Trips was the don. Thought that would have been Zim? Maybe he's a SK.

But yeah, the lists are bogus.

[400 ml]

Replace me please. Finals this week. Can't play much.

Sorry, should have foreseen this. D:

[Gabbo]

I don't know nearly enough to debate this point seriously but I watched the first episode on Youtube and Zim kinda works for the Almighty Tallest. I don't know why or how, but they assign all the little aliens (Zim included) to different jobs. Zim was assigned to Earth.

Doesn't matter since that's not the issue. Anti was killed by a girl and Almighty Tallest are listed as men on their wiki.


On a lighter note, anyone watching this show? I tried the first few eps but just cant get into it. Maybe being 21 is just too old for it.

[lprock]

Man oh man, what a nice night phase this is right now.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Whilst this here is why scum won the last short game. How many info lynches do you guys want. If I was lynched and came up exactly as I said I would what would your response be? My bad?

I, personally, wouldn't be apologetic at all. It's a win-win situation (just not for you).

[mjdgoldeneye]

Well I could argue, im not convinced Trips was the don. Thought that would have been Zim? Maybe he's a SK.

But yeah, the lists are bogus.

I don't know nearly enough to debate this point seriously but I watched the first episode on Youtube and Zim kinda works for the Almighty Tallest. I don't know why or how, but they assign all the little aliens (Zim included) to different jobs. Zim was assigned to Earth.

Doesn't matter since that's not the issue. Anti was killed by a girl and Almighty Tallest are listed as men on their wiki.


On a lighter note, anyone watching this show? I tried the first few eps but just cant get into it. Maybe being 21 is just too old for it.

As has already been openly provided to you by me, The Almighty Tallest are the leaders of the Ikren Empire. Zim is a thorn in the side of the Empire due to the fact that he is incompetent to the point of being destructive to his own planet.

Zim would never be the don if he's aligned with The Tallest. I'm not even sure if he's aligned with them.

He was actually banished to Foodcourtia and wasn't supposed to be a part of the Great Assigning at all. He was only sent to Earth because it was far away and of no concern. Basically, he was sent off with a malfunctioning robot assistant to a random planet of little importance just so he'd go away.

Also, look up Tak. She'd be the female killer, certainly.

As for the lists being incorrect, I highly doubt that. If they are incorrect, they're being manually fabricated like Shape fabricated notes in Lakeside. BlueStar is not a faulty FI and nor is he getting the notes from one. That would be ridiculous.

As for being too old for Invader Zim, it was designed to "work" on Nickelodeon, but the creator basically saw the opportunity as a massively ironic situation for him to make what he wanted considering he didn't think him having a show on Nick should have ever been a reality in the first place. Part of the reason it was canceled was his constant random insistence that an image of GIR covered in blood be included in the show with the artists sneaking in single frames to some episodes without Nick's knowledge. He just kept pushing until the show broke.

This is the same guy who created "Johnny The Homicidal Maniac".

Is Zim for kids? Only passively. As far as tone goes, it's pretty dark and heavy and there's plenty of really subtle commentary in it.

The humor isn't age dependent because it isn't in the same "Here's a regular kid, hijinx ensue" sort of show like other Nick shows. It's a ludicrously non sequitur mass of intentional stupidity and randomness. If that's not your thing, it's not your thing. Age doesn't figure into it. (Even when it was on the air, the primary audience was 18-24 anyway...)

[BHK1978]

I, personally, wouldn't be apologetic at all. It's a win-win situation (just not for you).

I agree, basically when it comes to indy aligned players it is more ask not what the town can do for you, ask what you can do for the town. And so if you can't help us out we are going to have to get rid of you.

And yes I realize this will come back and bite me in the ass if/when I am an indy.:D

[Glotnot]

Effective immediately, 400ml has been replaced by moon_lit_tears.

I am purposefully holding off on replacing praguepride for at least another day, to make sure he really wants out.

[moon_lit_tears]

Effective immediately, 400ml has been replaced by moon_lit_tears.

I am purposefully holding off on replacing praguepride for at least another day, to make sure he really wants out.

Ok so like I am here.

I have pretty much kept up with the game but will be doing some reading AFTER my shower. be back in about 30 mins. :D

[400 ml]

I am offended that MLT is my replacement. ANOTHER ONE I SAY!

I keed. Have fun duude---dette.

[moon_lit_tears]

I am offended that MLT is my replacement. ANOTHER ONE I SAY!

I keed. Have fun duude---dette.

Ya'know that actually hurt a bit. :(

[Zeel1]

Ya'know that actually hurt a bit. :(

He's clearly sexist. Clearly.

[moon_lit_tears]

He's clearly sexist. Clearly.

He's just jealous a chick can do the job better then he can. :p

[masterded]

He's clearly sexist. Clearly.

We all know woman suck at mafia, so what he said can't be sexist as it is based off a fact. Just kidding!

[moon_lit_tears]

We all know woman suck at mafia, so what he said can't be sexist as it is based off a fact. Just kidding!



S'cuse you?

[Glotnot]

Night Phase Is Over!

Write-Up Coming Some Time In The Short Future Probably!

[mjdgoldeneye]

I targeted BlueStar last night... So you know...

[Glotnot]

Night 3
Teh Wimminz r comng! Teh wimminz r comng!

The giant saw his chance.

There he was, exposed.

Boom!

-----

Stupid, drooling.

Another boy waited nearby.

Both of them just stood there, idly.

-----

Floaty floaty floaty!

Floaty floaty floa-

*BZZZZZZZT*

-----

He watched the other, with his strange mannerisms.

"You're strange."

"HAnoI'mnotyouare!"

-----

She sat, that look on her face.

Wait, what?

No!

-----

With those staring eyes, it stared. And stared.

And asked (kind of).

And stared.

-----

Walking up to the house.

Knees shaking. Anticipation.

What's tha-


Jaded and supermareo have been silenced.


Nobody Died!

Woooooooooooooooo!

[Zeel1]

Silencing two lurkers..wow, way to make on the impact on the game. :p

[petrija]

We all know woman suck at mafia, so what he said can't be sexist as it is based off a fact. Just kidding!

Harsh on my face.

[Zeel1]

Harsh on my face.

That's the worst kind of harsh!

[Glotnot]

All PM's should be out now.

It is now Day Phase.

With 20 players remaining, it's 11 to lynch.

You have until 8:00 PM EST (1:00 AM GMT), Friday, March 12th (Saturday, March 13th) to achieve a lynch. If no lynch has been achieved by that time, a no lynch will be declared.

[Zeel1]

We want to try SO again?

[mjdgoldeneye]

Well, that was an all around uneventful night...

**Waits to see if anyone has information**

[BHK1978]

We want to try SO again?

Well if no other leads come up, I guess that would be the safe road to take.

[moon_lit_tears]

Well, that was an all around uneventful night...

**Waits to see if anyone has information**


So what do we get from you targeting Blue?

[mjdgoldeneye]

So what do we get from you targeting Blue?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[BlueStar]

I got nothing....just a kid standing next to me and me drooling all over the place.

[SuperOwens]

As has already been openly provided to you by me, The Almighty Tallest are the leaders of the Ikren Empire. Zim is a thorn in the side of the Empire due to the fact that he is incompetent to the point of being destructive to his own planet.

Zim would never be the don if he's aligned with The Tallest. I'm not even sure if he's aligned with them.

He was actually banished to Foodcourtia and wasn't supposed to be a part of the Great Assigning at all. He was only sent to Earth because it was far away and of no concern. Basically, he was sent off with a malfunctioning robot assistant to a random planet of little importance just so he'd go away.

Also, look up Tak. She'd be the female killer, certainly.

As for the lists being incorrect, I highly doubt that. If they are incorrect, they're being manually fabricated like Shape fabricated notes in Lakeside. BlueStar is not a faulty FI and nor is he getting the notes from one. That would be ridiculous.

As for being too old for Invader Zim, it was designed to "work" on Nickelodeon, but the creator basically saw the opportunity as a massively ironic situation for him to make what he wanted considering he didn't think him having a show on Nick should have ever been a reality in the first place. Part of the reason it was canceled was his constant random insistence that an image of GIR covered in blood be included in the show with the artists sneaking in single frames to some episodes without Nick's knowledge. He just kept pushing until the show broke.

This is the same guy who created "Johnny The Homicidal Maniac".

Is Zim for kids? Only passively. As far as tone goes, it's pretty dark and heavy and there's plenty of really subtle commentary in it.

The humor isn't age dependent because it isn't in the same "Here's a regular kid, hijinx ensue" sort of show like other Nick shows. It's a ludicrously non sequitur mass of intentional stupidity and randomness. If that's not your thing, it's not your thing. Age doesn't figure into it. (Even when it was on the air, the primary audience was 18-24 anyway...)

These last few games MJ, you have come off with an air of arrogance that sort of grates on me. Not sure where that has come from? Never used to be that way bud.

But you know, It is possible for others to have a different opinion. And essentially that's all your bringing to the table, an opinion. You can say these lists are 100% accurate all you like, but I dont believe them, my opioin is there bogus.

Its not like your not ever wrong. Lets take Futurama, there was no way Mcfly could have anything to do with that sewer monster.


I agree, basically when it comes to indy aligned players it is more ask not what the town can do for you, ask what you can do for the town. And so if you can't help us out we are going to have to get rid of you.

And yes I realize this will come back and bite me in the ass if/when I am an indy.:D

What your essentially saying here, is lynch me and then lynch D_W_W. After all he's indy too. So lynch 2 people that will have no effect on the game numbers wise and let scum have 2 free nights.

This is an open question to everybody, what is it that you don't believe about my claim exactly? Apart from the lists I really see no evidence pointing to me being a killer. The annoying thing is I was watched Night 2 and whoever that was would see me targeting somebody that didn't die.

I got nothing....just a kid standing next to me and me drooling all over the place.

No list then? Will be interesting if anybody else gets one today. Or maybe it went to our silenced guys, they would have been good choices, not the un-killable townie.

[BlueStar]

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Did you block me?

[Gabbo]

These last few games MJ, you have come off with an air of arrogance that sort of grates on me. Not sure where that has come from? Never used to be that way bud.

I almost posted this last night, asking him to stop the condescending, arrogant tone he's been throwing around. Considered maybe it was just me so I didn't, but yeah on the basis on Futurama he has the least reasons to be arrogant of anyone that played that game.

This is an open question to everybody, what is it that you don't believe about my claim exactly? Apart from the lists I really see no evidence pointing to me being a killer. The annoying thing is I was watched Night 2 and whoever that was would see me targeting somebody that didn't die.

I think we've all read your defense, but no-one has verified the watching have they? Fact is we got lists and people are giving them the benefit of the doubt which you must understand. Combined with the fact you're an indy with a different win condition people hardly see you as a mis-lynch. That said I don't really believe the lists, nor do I consider you much of a loss should you die. I'd rather you were onside, but it's not in your interests to be - which is fair enough.


Good night on the scan, haven't read it yet as I'm popping out. Not that it would make much difference, I may as well go read the Qur'an for the same end result. :D Strange silencings, maybe one of them hit a PGO silencer? [pure conjecture] Do have another theory though...

I'll read it when I get back.

[SuperOwens]

Did you block me?

Strange question, seeing as you don't go out at night. ;)


I think we've all read your defense, but no-one has verified the watching have they? Fact is we got lists and people are giving them the benefit of the doubt which you must understand. Combined with the fact you're an indy with a different win condition people hardly see you as a mis-lynch. That said I don't really believe the lists, nor do I consider you much of a loss should you die. I'd rather you were onside, but it's not in your interests to be - which is fair enough..

No, which is annoying. Unless the watcher was BHK. But that means I was targeted by somebody else, a little floating thing. We had a conversation, I was assuming that was BHK.

The only other possibility is the floating thing watched me and then we had a talk, but that doesn't really make sense the way it was written.

I can however prove who I targeted that night, been reluctant to do that, and still am because it involves another player.

Also, wild theory time, No kills, silencing 2 inactive's. Scum ploy? Jaded and SM as scum?

[BlueStar]

I asked about the block because I didn't get a note last night. Just wondering is MJD's action blocked a note being delivered.

[BlueStar]

Interesting ideas SO.

Just that made me look at the player list...what about lprock? He's more quiet than usual.

[SuperOwens]

Interesting ideas SO.

Just that made me look at the player list...what about lprock? He's more quiet than usual.

Seems like a quiet game.

Spiker hasn't said much, Destiny has been posting all over the mafia board but not much in here at all.

I'd be happy to pressure somebody.

[moon_lit_tears]

Along with Destiny and Lprock here are the bottom three posters in the game (that have not died I believe)

Imarevenant
supermareo
TakerNGN74

Now it is time for me to go back and re-read EVERYTHING. :)

[BlueStar]

Vote: lprock

Let's start somewhere....someone type up the usual questions.

[moon_lit_tears]

Vote: lprock

Let's start somewhere....someone type up the usual questions.


You mean like

Do you go out at night?

Ability?

Targets?

[BlueStar]

Bingo. Gotta go now...

From the inactive list, lprock and Rev stand out in my opinion. Not sure why...

[moon_lit_tears]

Bingo. Gotta go now...

From the inactive list, lprock and Rev stand out in my opinion. Not sure why...

Cool so

Lprock and Rev could do some answering huh? :D

[SuperOwens]

Vote: lprock

[moon_lit_tears]

A bunch of randomness that caught my attention.

Er, to.

(Even though I'm not playing, I'm not pulling a derek!) :D

/points and laughs.


I think MLT gets more leeway than most. She's special. =P

Yes I seen this before and I will say this AGAIN you are damned right I am special and don't forget it. :p


Well, to help you take me off that list, my vote on lprock isn't exactly random.
Yeah, you'll take one for the team alright.

Putting cards on the table, I've checked you and.. you're not human. There's not one thing human about ya. You're lying.

I accept the lynch, so it doesn't bother me. We can go ahead and accumulate some votes now.


And Phenom, here's my claim;



I'll tell you guys when Glot gets back to me on whether or not I can reveal anymore than I already have.

So I assume Lprock is no longer believed from this earlier on?

God damn it, Im the reason tbp got that result. I dont want to say more.
??

His role is primarily good. There is a variation of it that can be scum, but he has the main one. People should not be voting him.
This makes me wonder.

This isn't going anywhere it seems...

For the record:


Vote: Zeel1

* I have the list.
* you couldn't be targetted.
* You've changed your claim from Nexus to Bulletproof to Hider (of some kind).

The list is my main reason. Blegh....too many people who say: "we should lynch" and then falter...

Zeel has struck me as odd from the beginning.

.................................................. .......................

Ok some of that may have been straightened out. BUT I skimmed more then read every single thing. So if I am missing something maybe someone will fill me in.

[SuperOwens]

Would be some ploy that but the fact there both vanished is odd.

No real reason to do this (role wise) but it just bugs me.

Change vote: Destiny

In a way I'm grateful for the lack of activity, and not voting on me. But you haven't made a post this phase and yet you talk a load of cra/spam in the stickied threads up there.

You play scum horribly (sorry dude), and your tactics of trying to stay away from the thread always strike me as odd. Especially as you post in other threads every time, you will acuse me of metgaming here. You did the last couple of times, you were scum both times.

If your not avoiding the thread, maybe get in the game a bit :)

[Gabbo]

Did you block me?

Very interesting choice of words.

Put it in another context, player A targets player B for a protection. Player C roleblocks player B. Is there anyone here who'd assume player B would not get the protection? No. The active ingredient is the one that needs to be roleblocked. So, in this case; the note giver.

Seems like a slip of the tongue, got caught in your own fabrications, seizing a gap after MJD revealed he targeted you.

Along with Destiny and Lprock here are the bottom three posters in the game (that have not died I believe)

Imarevenant
supermareo
TakerNGN74

Now it is time for me to go back and re-read EVERYTHING. :)

Sean McFly before Rev, but yeah. Also think Blue needs some pressure personally.

Spiker and lp have both descended into silence upon this virus thing being announced.

Also, wild theory time, No kills, silencing 2 inactive's. Scum ploy? Jaded and SM as scum?

It is a very strange twosome to pick. Interesting since I called attention to them (aswell as Waghlon) yesterday.

Another wild theory: one of them is Zim and has been captured. Might be too obvious though since if the town finds Zim we'll lynch him and then that player/catcher can't complete his win condition.

Blue, Destiny and Sean Mcfly. Today please.

[Imarevenant]

I think we've all read your defense, but no-one has verified the watching have they? Fact is we got lists and people are giving them the benefit of the doubt which you must understand. Combined with the fact you're an indy with a different win condition people hardly see you as a mis-lynch. That said I don't really believe the lists, nor do I consider you much of a loss should you die. I'd rather you were onside, but it's not in your interests to be - which is fair enough.


I actually believe SO's claim and would rather have him and DWW around as long as they are playing ball and hunting scum (which with DWW's win condition I don't see that as a problem for him). Now, the minute it looks like SO is getting ready to turn on us then well, vig him, lynch him, what have you. But for now I'd rather he stick around.

Along with Destiny and Lprock here are the bottom three posters in the game (that have not died I believe)

Imarevenant
supermareo
TakerNGN74

Now it is time for me to go back and re-read EVERYTHING. :)

Bingo. Gotta go now...

From the inactive list, lprock and Rev stand out in my opinion. Not sure why...

Cool so

Lprock and Rev could do some answering huh? :D


There is a very very good reason for me to be at the bottom of the list, it was discussed day 1 in fact. It's hard to be a power poster in any game when you are limited to 5 posts a phase.


Would be some ploy that but the fact there both vanished is odd.

No real reason to do this (role wise) but it just bugs me.

Change vote: Destiny

In a way I'm grateful for the lack of activity, and not voting on me. But you haven't made a post this phase and yet you talk a load of cra/spam in the stickied threads up there.

You play scum horribly (sorry dude), and your tactics of trying to stay away from the thread always strike me as odd. Especially as you post in other threads every time, you will acuse me of metgaming here. You did the last couple of times, you were scum both times.

If your not avoiding the thread, maybe get in the game a bit :)

I think this is the perfect direction in which to go actually.

Vote: Destiny

[moon_lit_tears]

I actually believe SO's claim and would rather have him and DWW around as long as they are playing ball and hunting scum (which with DWW's win condition I don't see that as a problem for him). Now, the minute it looks like SO is getting ready to turn on us then well, vig him, lynch him, what have you. But for now I'd rather he stick around.








There is a very very good reason for me to be at the bottom of the list, it was discussed day 1 in fact. It's hard to be a power poster in any game when you are limited to 5 posts a phase.




I think this is the perfect direction in which to go actually.

Vote: Destiny

I agree. I would rather see SO and DWW for the time being stick around. I hate having that "oh well lets lynch them because we have nothing better to do" deal.

I figured you had a post restriction when I seen the numbers but....well I can be an airhead.

I went back and read again and again and I want to believe Lprock is ok for now too but still unsure.

This being said DESTINY PLEASE come in and speak with us. it's kinda your neck on the line...no pun intended. (or was it?)

[Waghlon]

Im interested in hearing Destiny as well.

And believe that pun was indeed intended my fair female-ish coplayer.

[BlueStar]

Very interesting choice of words.

Put it in another context, player A targets player B for a protection. Player C roleblocks player B. Is there anyone here who'd assume player B would not get the protection? No. The active ingredient is the one that needs to be roleblocked. So, in this case; the note giver.

Seems like a slip of the tongue, got caught in your own fabrications, seizing a gap after MJD revealed he targeted you.



Sean McFly before Rev, but yeah. Also think Blue needs some pressure personally.

Spiker and lp have both descended into silence upon this virus thing being announced.



It is a very strange twosome to pick. Interesting since I called attention to them (aswell as Waghlon) yesterday.

Another wild theory: one of them is Zim and has been captured. Might be too obvious though since if the town finds Zim we'll lynch him and then that player/catcher can't complete his win condition.

Blue, Destiny and Sean Mcfly. Today please.

Nope. Just wondering if a block/protection would block anything targetted towards me.

Hey, weren't you on yesterday's list?

[moon_lit_tears]

Im interested in hearing Destiny as well.

And believe that pun was indeed intended my fair female-ish coplayer.

Female-ish?

Last I checked I was ALL female. :p

[Zeel1]

Zeel has struck me as odd from the beginning.

Anything you want to ask? Because I've pretty much revealed everything that I can afford to reveal so far.

[moon_lit_tears]

Anything you want to ask? Because I've pretty much revealed everything that I can afford to reveal so far.

Not really. You just ring bells in my head that's all. More of a gut feeling nothing more.

[Zeel1]

Not really. You just ring bells in my head that's all. More of a gut feeling nothing more.

Fair enough, I guess. I just don't really like it when people say stuff like that, and then don't ask anything, or give any reason of suspicion. Just seems like pointing a finger for the sake of pointing a finger, really..

[Zeel1]

Fair enough, I guess. I just don't really like it when people say stuff like that, and then don't ask anything, or give any reason of suspicion. Just seems like pointing a finger for the sake of pointing a finger, really..

For example, when people just make a three-word post, saying "Destiny is scum". Don't you just hate people like that? I know I'd never do something like that.. :p

[BHK1978]

Along with Destiny and Lprock here are the bottom three posters in the game (that have not died I believe)

Imarevenant
supermareo
TakerNGN74

Now it is time for me to go back and re-read EVERYTHING. :)

Take Taker off the list, he is not paranormal according to my results.

[moon_lit_tears]

Fair enough, I guess. I just don't really like it when people say stuff like that, and then don't ask anything, or give any reason of suspicion. Just seems like pointing a finger for the sake of pointing a finger, really..

/points finger at zeel.........--------->

Take Taker off the list, he is not paranormal according to my results.

With that and Revs post restriction then that leaves SM.......

[BHK1978]

With that and Revs post restriction then that leaves SM.......

Yes but SM never talks unless he has something to say and also he is silenced for this phase.

[BHK1978]

Even though I have no information on them at this time I think the best bets would be Destiny and Sean. As like SuperOwens said, I have seen both post all over the place. However, neither have posted much in here (but that is me meta-gaming again).

[moon_lit_tears]

Even though I have no information on them at this time I think the best bets would be Destiny and Sean. As like SuperOwens said, I have seen both post all over the place. However, neither have posted much in here (but that is me meta-gaming again).


You, me, and just about everyone else playing the game.

If Destiny does not come in here soonish I will put a vote on him.

[BHK1978]

Yes but SM never talks unless he has something to say and also he is silenced for this phase.

Oh and that was not meant to be a Mr. Ed reference. I just realized it after I read it again.

[moon_lit_tears]

Oh and that was not meant to be a Mr. Ed reference. I just realized it after I read it again.

But Wilbur!!!

[Waghlon]

Well, im sorta doing the same as mlt. No reply from Destiny and because im shutting down for today, im placing a (pressure) vote on him, virtually instantly invalidated once (if?) he comes up with some answers.

Vote: Destiny

[lprock]

I'd vote Destiny if my ability to vote still existed.

[d_w_w]

Need more activity.

Thus, I like the pressure on Destiny.

Vote: Destiny

[mjdgoldeneye]

These last few games MJ, you have come off with an air of arrogance that sort of grates on me. Not sure where that has come from? Never used to be that way bud.

But you know, It is possible for others to have a different opinion. And essentially that's all your bringing to the table, an opinion. You can say these lists are 100% accurate all you like, but I dont believe them, my opioin is there bogus.

Its not like your not ever wrong. Lets take Futurama, there was no way Mcfly could have anything to do with that sewer monster.

I play roughly the same way consistently. I just may not have ever disagreed with you in particular before.

For the record, it's important to note what my opinion actually is. I did not say the lists are 100% accurate. I said they should be taken as fact until proven otherwise. They haven't been proven otherwise.

I'll repeat what I said again: No mod, in their right mind, would include a faulty FI. I state that as unequivocal fact. What would the point be? That's a painfully disruptive role with no upside.

I'm not implying anything further. I've already suggested that maybe the notes are akin to Shape's role in Lakeside and that they're manually fabricated.

But, I am entirely sure, if Glot didn't have a massive brain 'splosion, he wouldn't include a role that does nothing but waste entire day phases and lead to half a dozen townies having to out themselves at a time. The notes are not the result of an advertised FI role. Period. If, somehow, they are, to concede to the possibility is foolish.

If we lynched you, we would know immediately that night-time notes shouldn't be trusted. Assuming so beforehand accomplishes nothing.

I didn't say the notes were accurate. I said that we have no logical reason to believe they are not and that they aren't from a faulty FI role. ("We" meaning "everyone but you". You already know.)

As for Futurama, I never said McFly had nothing to do with the sewer monster. I said he wasn't the sewer monster. I still believe that emphasizing the simplicity of something when that something involves incompetent and poorly armed police officers beating down a beast of unspeakable horror is incredibly misleading.

I also recall highly favoring the idea of the monster being a role (even when the proponents of the McFly lynch wrote the idea off).

Did you block me?

Not to my knowledge. That wasn't the intent or expected outcome at least.

[moon_lit_tears]

VOTE Destiny

Why have you decided to ignore us? This does not help your case at all.

[Zeel1]

I'mma drop this vote like it's hot~!

Vote: Destiny

[moon_lit_tears]

I'mma drop this vote like it's hot~!

Vote: Destiny

Destiny doesn't like to drop it like it's hot.

[Destiny]

You're right moon_lit_tears, as I have said on several other occasions, I am not a huge fan of "dropping it like it's hot". I am the teacher, and I'm town.

[Zeel1]

You're right moon_lit_tears, as I have said on several other occasions, I am not a huge fan of "dropping it like it's hot". I am the teacher, and I'm town.

So you would rather hold on to things that are hot? I bet you are great at playing Hot Potato..

Are you Humanity Aligned?

[Glotnot]

Vote Count

Destiny - 5 - SuperOwens, Imarevenant, Waghlon, d_w_w, Zeel1
lprock - 1 - BlueStar

It is now Day Phase.

With 20 players remaining, it's 11 to lynch.

You have until 8:00 PM EST (1:00 AM GMT), Friday, March 12th (Saturday, March 13th) to achieve a lynch. If no lynch has been achieved by that time, a no lynch will be declared.

If I missed someone, holla' at me.

[BHK1978]

You're right moon_lit_tears, as I have said on several other occasions, I am not a huge fan of "dropping it like it's hot". I am the teacher, and I'm town.

Not very forthcoming as always Destiny. However, from reading about the show I think I get your hint.

So you would rather hold on to things that are hot? I bet you are great at playing Hot Potato..

Are you Humanity Aligned?

Why would one hold onto a hot potato, that would be a fool's errand because your hand would blister.

[BlueStar]

Change vote: no vote

On Rev, I forgot about his posting restriction, so yeah....

/waves at Destiny....

Come on...beans to spill...

[BHK1978]

Destiny,

Are you saying your character would have kids in this game?

[SuperOwens]

I play roughly the same way consistently. I just may not have ever disagreed with you in particular before.

For the record, it's important to note what my opinion actually is. I did not say the lists are 100% accurate. I said they should be taken as fact until proven otherwise. They haven't been proven otherwise.

I'll repeat what I said again: No mod, in their right mind, would include a faulty FI. I state that as unequivocal fact. What would the point be? That's a painfully disruptive role with no upside.

I'm not implying anything further. I've already suggested that maybe the notes are akin to Shape's role in Lakeside and that they're manually fabricated.

But, I am entirely sure, if Glot didn't have a massive brain 'splosion, he wouldn't include a role that does nothing but waste entire day phases and lead to half a dozen townies having to out themselves at a time. The notes are not the result of an advertised FI role. Period. If, somehow, they are, to concede to the possibility is foolish.

If we lynched you, we would know immediately that night-time notes shouldn't be trusted. Assuming so beforehand accomplishes nothing.

I didn't say the notes were accurate. I said that we have no logical reason to believe they are not and that they aren't from a faulty FI role. ("We" meaning "everyone but you". You already know.)

As for Futurama, I never said McFly had nothing to do with the sewer monster. I said he wasn't the sewer monster. I still believe that emphasizing the simplicity of something when that something involves incompetent and poorly armed police officers beating down a beast of unspeakable horror is incredibly misleading.

I also recall highly favoring the idea of the monster being a role (even when the proponents of the McFly lynch wrote the idea off).

Think thats a case of selective memory there, MJ. But I cant really be bothered to argue. Don't want to fall out with you either over it.

Not really a lot of info there from Destiny, not really sure why not. At one point I even went through his posts, thinking he could only post at certain points in the phase.

Just seems like he is staying away from the thread but doesnt have the foresight to stay away from the mafia forum itself.

[Destiny]

I apologise, I'll try to be more active in the thread from this point onwards. The thing is, I don't have much information of use to share at this point.

[Zeel1]

Let me just say I have very good reason for asking if you're humanity aligned. Please answer.

[Destiny]

Yes, I am Humanity Aligned. I assumed that telling you I was town would imply this.

[Zeel1]

Yes, I am Humanity Aligned. I assumed that telling you I was town would imply this.

Yeah..see, a few days ago I checked out some Invader Zim characters, and in regards to your claim, I read this..

"Ms. Bitters is not human, though it is never explained what exactly she is. However it is mentioned that Ms. Bitters has always been, and that the school was in fact, built around her."

..if she's in the game, I'd say she'd be Earth Aligned.

So..I'm afraid I don't beleive you.

[BlueStar]

Too many inactives here, just wondering why...

Rev, you got a plus-side to your posting restriction? We need ... like ... direction?

[Destiny]

I don't care if you don't believe me, Zeel1. You seem out to get me anyway. It's the majority of the town I want to believe me, as I'm telling the truth.

[masterded]

Yeah..see, a few days ago I checked out some Invader Zim characters, and in regards to your claim, I read this..

"Ms. Bitters is not human, though it is never explained what exactly she is. However it is mentioned that Ms. Bitters has always been, and that the school was in fact, built around her."

..if she's in the game, I'd say she'd be Earth Aligned.

So..I'm afraid I don't beleive you.

Seeing that with anti's death we do see a difference in humans and nonhumans that are town. This seems like a real solid argument.

Vote: Destiny

[Destiny]

I can't explain my alignment. I will say this though, I haven't been posting much recently as I didn't realise there was a game going on.

[Imarevenant]

Too many inactives here, just wondering why...

Rev, you got a plus-side to your posting restriction? We need ... like ... direction?

There is a plus, but, more downside than up I'm afraid.

That said, Destiny is the direction....

I can't explain my alignment. I will say this though, I haven't been posting much recently as I didn't realise there was a game going on.

So between day 1 (when you were active) and day 3 you forgot there was a game going on? Seriously; you expect us to buy that?

[BHK1978]

I can't explain my alignment. I will say this though, I haven't been posting much recently as I didn't realise there was a game going on.

So between day 1 (when you were active) and day 3 you forgot there was a game going on? Seriously; you expect us to buy that?

Imarevenant is right, you were posting earlier and then all of a sudden you "forgot" you were in a game! Even after you said you did not want to play d_w_w's game because you did not want to play two games at once! That is just some weird behavior...

Vote:Destiny

[BHK1978]

Imarevenant is right, you were posting earlier and then all of a sudden you "forgot" you were in a game! Even after you said you did not want to play d_w_w's game because you did not want to play two games at once! That is just some weird behavior...

Vote:Destiny

I have no idea how that smiley face ended up in the name:

Vote: Destiny

[Destiny]

Oh dear, I obviously didn't mean that literally. It was a hint to my win condition, that any real townspeople would understand.

[BHK1978]

Oh dear, I obviously didn't mean that literally. It was a hint to my win condition, that any real townspeople would understand.

Does anybody understand what he is talking about? I really want to believe you Destiny but maybe because I am dense I haven't a clue as to your hints.

[SuperOwens]

No idea, I'm assuming your win condition has nothing about forgetfulness then?

[Zeel1]

He's talking about the "What? There's a game going on?" line where the win condition is supposed to be.

I guess it's a good sign that you're aware of that, but me and MJD did make note of the fact that it it seemed oblivous to the fact that there was a game going on in our Role PM's on Day 1, so you could've just picked it up there.

There's also the chance that scum have the same kind of obliviousness towards their win condition. But I don't really think thats likely, most villians are far more competent then the humans.

I should also make note that, the quote I posted probably isn't considered canon, but it was written by Eric Trueheart, who is one of the show's head writers. That said, in the interest of fairness - there is a chance that Glot added her as humanity aligned, either because he never heard of that, or because he didn't see that as official.

[d_w_w]

Think Destiny's response makes BHK not look so good, to be honest.

[SuperOwens]

Think Destiny's response makes BHK not look so good, to be honest.

Well BHK isn't Human. He floats.

[BHK1978]

Think Destiny's response makes BHK not look so good, to be honest.

How so, I really did not have a clue as to what he is talking about.

Well BHK isn't Human. He floats.

BHK does not float and is human.

These two post make me think that perhaps d_w_w and SuperOwens might not be what they claim either. Maybe they have been playing the indy card but are really the Mafia.