TNA - Cult, National or International?

[Fridolin]

What are you thinking about the "size" of TNA in a real world mod? In most mods TNA is a "cult"-size promotion, while WWE is "international" or "global". But is this really realistic? A lot of TNA workers are under written contract, but a "cult" company can't have written contacts in TEW10. Also, TNA signed huge names like Angle, Flair or Hogan. But a star who has huge popularity wouldn't sign a contract with a cult promotion in the game.

Wouldn't it be more realistic, if TNA was a national or international company?

[Mr.Macho]

I would say National tbh.

[gazwefc83]

Cult, there not popular enough right across the regions to be anything more

before this turns into a major debate i link you to here - http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76504&highlight=national

[FINisher]

Cult. This has been discussed back and forth for so long that I hope that the situation doesn't get out of hand. In TEW terms (and in other aswell) TNA should be Cult, without a question.

[eayragt]

A lot of TNA workers are under written contract, but a "cult" company can't have written contacts in TEW10.

Yes they can, and they can continue to offer them given the right other circumstances.

[jesterx7769]

Adam has said Cult before.

Just because you have coverage or have popularity in areas does not mean you are popular enough to warrant the TEW defined size. Remember, to be National in the US their popularity would have be at least B- (to get the C+ importance)

Contracts also mean nothing because in TEW 2010 Cult companies can sign workers to written contracts so that solves that. Also, a Flair or Hogan personality would sign for a cult promotion in TEW b/c they are not active wrestlers, Flair is a manager and Hogan is a personality who just so happen to be wrestling a match, which you can also do in TEW by just changing their push for "one special night" which TNA has done. As far as a person like Angle, you could argue they had a bad relationship with the company due to schedule and dispute over pain meds (which could be simulated with a hatred of VKM so he wouldnt sign there even though I doubt they really have a hatred relationship) if TNA ran a full time travel schedule they wouldnt have alot of the people they do such as Angle or RVD

Also, "Alot" of TNA wrestlers are not under exclusive written agreements. TNA allows them to work agreed upon indy shows to help get money and from the details I've read of TNA contracts they generally go by per appearance not a guaranteed per month. I dont see any WWE guys working indy shows.

I am a big TNA fan and want them to do well and in real life yeah they are national b/c we judge national based on TV coverage, but TEW standards are different. I am not a mod maker and these estimates are by no means exact but i would say they have somewhere at C popularity (remember their good ratings are the ratings that got ECW cancelled, hardly drawing in the fans) in the U.S. and E/D in places they run tours which would prevent them from being National or International.

Edit: Didn't see someone else posted a link to the other discussion

[LucianCarter]

I dont see any WWE guys working indy shows.

It seems to me WWE used to allow it a lot more. But that might reflect past working agreements.

[Comradebot]

Most certainly Cult.

In C-Verse terms, I'd say they're at just about the exact same point as USPW right now.

They have SOME written contracts and SOME workers that should typically be too large for a Cult company, but quite simply lack several features that define a National company.

[shamelessposer]

Most certainly Cult.

In C-Verse terms, I'd say they're at just about the exact same point as USPW right now.

They have SOME written contracts and SOME workers that should typically be too large for a Cult company, but quite simply lack several features that define a National company.

You've said everything I say in these threads, but in a more succinct and polite fashion. Listen to this man!

[rajde]

It is Cult. People assume because they are all over the US they are national, however you have to remember TNA on average can't draw more than 5000 to an event. In TEW 2010 terms I think that is about C- and that would be in its best regions. Even its tv numbers are the same as ECW and I think most people wouldn't call ECW National at any point.

[wgh_2001]

It is Cult. People assume because they are all over the US they are national, however you have to remember TNA on average can't draw more than 5000 to an event. In TEW 2010 terms I think that is about C- and that would be in its best regions. Even its tv numbers are the same as ECW and I think most people wouldn't call ECW National at any point.

Actually, I think ECW was a National company at the very end and that's what arguably was the killing blow to them. They never should've tried to go national.

And I am curious to know what your definition of a "national company" is in relation to wrestling terms.

[shamelessposer]

Actually, I think ECW was a National company at the very end and that's what arguably was the killing blow to them. They never should've tried to go national.

And I am curious to know what your definition of a "national company" is in relation to wrestling terms.

ECW was a Regional promotion which was killed by trying to go Cult. For as long as I've played Adam Ryland's wrestling simulators, Cult was intended to simulate that same rough patch which killed ECW. Once you get to National it's all puppy dogs and sunshine. The only way you "get killed going to national" is by spending too long in Cult.

[rajde]

It is all about attendence figures. You have to be able to draw about 10000 in alot of regions. I doubt ECW was able to do that. I think at its best ECW was a cult promotion.

[alden]

I would say tna is just cult.......they have a national tv show and ppv but they are not over in any area other then florida.......and not even really there.....they can fill maybe a three thousend seat arena *when giving away tickets* and maybe have 1000 to a house show.

and by the way......tna has what is called right of first refusal *i can't spell i know*....basicly it means that any tna workers can work on an indy show if......it is not on tv.........and they don't miss any tna work. Tna basicly has priority. I don't think even hogan has a writen deal as he still wants to do the hulkamania tour .......and i know nash hall and waltman do indy shows alot.

[SasoreGatame]

It is all about attendence figures. You have to be able to draw about 10000 in alot of regions. I doubt ECW was able to do that. I think at its best ECW was a cult promotion.

TNA can't draw 10,000 in general (except maybe in the UK). Neither could ECW.