GAME THREAD: Micro Training Game #1

[Wallbanger]

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Micro Training Game #1


Active Players:

3. canyoudothecancan
4. EddieFnG
5. i effin rule
6. MichiganHero
7. Nedew
8. petrija
10. Spikerdude
11. Wrestling Century
12. Zeel1


Graveyard:

0. Wallbanger is dead. He was Winston Aloysius Leonardo Lawrence Banger: Bangerville Aligned Beloved Mayor
1. BHK1978 is dead. He was Marquita Cook, Bangerville Aligned Happy Citizen.
9. BlueStar is dead. He was Cecelia Lizzie Cobb, Bangerville Aligned Happy Citizen.
2. moon_lit_tears is dead. She was Lorenzo Benito, The Family Aligned Lieutenant.




Write Ups:

Night 0: Death of Wallbanger (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=881943&postcount=3)
Day 1: No Lynch (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=886166&postcount=67)
Night 1: Death of BHK1978 (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=887406&postcount=72)
Day 2: No Lynch (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=891863&postcount=164)
Night 2: Death of BlueStar (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=893860&postcount=174)
Day 3: Lynch of moon_lit_tears (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=897049&postcount=262)

[Wallbanger]

THE OFFICIAL RULES (Read or Die!)

HOW TO PLAY:

ROLES: Every player has been given a role, each with it’s own abilities (or lack thereof). Your role PM will explain what it does if you are meant to know. You do not need to reveal your role to other players nor will we do so in the in-game write ups. Of course, you can choose to reveal information about your role if you wish to if you feel it would help you to reach your win condition. Jut remember that any information you reveal can also be used against you, so claiming is entirely at your own risk. If you want to use your ability, PM the mod of the game (Wallbanger). Do NOT post it in the thread unless your role PM states otherwise.

PHASES: The game is split into two phases, Day and Night. The game begins during the day phase with all players (Town and Mafia alike) posting in the thread deciding who to lynch. Lynching is the town’s main way of eliminating mafia, so be sure to examine everything that your fellow players say in order to find inconsistencies, lies, dodgy voting patterns and anything else that could incriminate people. There may also be clues in the end of phase write ups, but relying on those is not advised as they may be veiled, misleading or otherwise unreliable. Day phases last approximately 48 hours or until a consensus is reached on who to lynch. Night phases last approximately 24 hours but may end earlier if all night activities are completed. If you have an optional ability and choose not to use it, please inform the mod via PM so that they know not to wait on your ability.

VOTING: All voting and game related discussion is to occur within the game thread. Town players may discuss who they think are Mafia, and Mafia members should be trying to avoid being lynched by bluffing and blending in and generally trying to not get lynched. To vote on anyone, post VOTE: Username (MUST BE IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote by typing CHANGE VOTE: Username (AGAIN IN BOLD!). You can also change your vote to nobody by typing CHANGE VOTE: No Vote (STILL IN BOLD!). Your last option is to vote for a no lynch, meaning that you actively choose to not lynch anyone. To do so simply type VOTE: No lynch (BOLDED OBVIOUSLY!). All votes post in the thread for your vote to count and it must be in bold (are you noticing a pattern here?). If you vote within a quote then your vote won’t be counted, so if you mess up voting and quote it to edit it then it will not count.

DAY PHASES: A Day Phase is over whenever a person obtains votes from more than 50% of the total number of players remaining, at which point they are lynched. It can also end if the time expires before a lynch is reached, at which point a No Lynch will be declared. There are abilities out there that can change votes such as vote manipulators, multi-voters and no-voters so vote counts may not always be as they seem. When a person dies their role title will be revealed for all to see in the end of day write up.

NIGHT PHASES: Night Phases begin after a day phase has ended. During this time most abilities will be sent in to the mod (Wallbanger), with the Mafia usually sending in their kills while the town send in names of people they want to use their abilities on, such as investigate or protect. The night phase will end once all abilities have been sent in or when the time limit expires, at which point the mod will do a write up of the night’s activities. The write up will reveal what players have been killed any some other events that happen depending on what the mod consider important enough to be in the write ups. Whenever possible, try to get PMs into the mod as soon as possible after the start of the night phase in order to keep the game moving along at a quick pace.

Once night has ended, a new day begins and the cycle repeats itself until win conditions have been reached. The Town generally wins when there are no threats left to them, the Mafia generally win when their numbers are equal to or greater than the remaining non-Mafia players. Remember, this is a team effort so if you think sacrificing someone may help your cause then go ahead.


GENERAL MAFIA GAME RULES:

No players are allowed to edit their posts EVER!. Whether it be to correct a typo or to remove some accidentally incriminating things someone has said, no editing of posts is allowed. While mods may choose to be lenient, the standard penalty for anyone caught editing a post is a mod kill.

All players should play to their role/alignment and play to win. While there are likely to be times that you have to do things against your best interest, any players who deliberately go against their win conditions risk being banned from future games for failing to play to their role and going against the spirit of the game.

Players are only allowed to post their role title from their role PM, that is the bit that says you are “Town Aligned Protector” or something similar. You can paraphrase things that your PM says but you are not allowed to directly quote anything else other than the role title from your PM, which is also the only thing players will see when you are dead. If the mods catch you posting anything that closely resembles what your role PM says then it will be grounds for a mod kill. You have been warned!

In game “role bets” such as “I will never play again if…” is strictly prohibited. If you do this then you will at minimum be replaced as soon as possible, with a maximum penalty of a mod kill. It may also lead to a ban from future games, mods don’t want players who will bet on things outside their games in order to try and prove something in a game so just don’t do it.

Though we can’t force you to post, all mods love to see active participants in their games. We advise everyone to check in at least once a day, as games can move pretty fast and it can be easy to fall behind if you are not on regularly.

Though this may also be a mafia game, try not to postwhore in the thread. Where possible try to keep things relevant to the game that is being played and try not to let arguments get out of hand. This game stirs up some passionate arguments and we understand that this will happen, but if anything turns into a personal attack then it ruins the fun for everyone. Be considerate.

Unless your role PM specifically states otherwise, no players are allowed to talk about their role, game plan, alignment, win condition or basically anything game related outside of the game thread. While mods can’t easily enforce this rule, any communication about the game outside of the game thread goes against the spirit of mafia games and spoils the game. Anyone caught doing this WILL be mod-killed. This is your only warning!

Once you are dead, you stay dead. You will not be allowed to participate in the game thread or continue to talk to people outside the thread that you could talk to before. So if you are a Mafia player who dies, you are NOT allowed to continue talking about the game to your Mafia team mates. No dead players will receive any extra information from the mod (Wallbanger) when they die either. If you are dead, try not to post anything in the game thread as anything you say could be an unnecessary distraction to those still playing, though a quick post going “Oooooooo I’m a ghost!!” is generally okay, no-one is allowed to leave cryptic messages from the dead, notes on their corpses or anything like that. If you are dead, your contribution to the game is over.

Talking to other dead players is also frowned upon, as many games have been known to feature a revive type ability or need to have players replaced. Talking to other players outside the game means that these abilities can’t be used properly and that you can’t be used as a replacement, which can still have an impact on the game in play. So don’t do it!

When it comes to mafia games, nothing is ever as it seems. There can be things about your role that you don’t know about, other people can bluff about their abilities, people can lie, events can happen and write ups can be read in many different ways. If you have any questions about what is happening then you can get in contact with the mod (Wallbagner) via PM, and if we can clarify anything for you then we will do what we can. But there are many reasons why we might not be able to, and in any such eventuality you will get a post simply stating the following -> :cool:

Example Town Role:

You are Example: Bangerville Aligned Example Citizen

This is an example of a town role. This is only an example. The moderator of this game developed this example to keep you informed in the event that you needed an example. Had this been an actual role, you would have been given a brief explanation of your role, its abilities, and instructions on how to use them. This has been an example of a town role.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive. -----

As always, many thanks to the original writers, and subsequent editors of this post.

[Wallbanger]

Night 0


The peaceful town of Bangerville was a quiet hamlet, often forgotten by the busy world at large. To be honest, the good folk of Bangerville preferred it that way. Every so often they would see on the TV, in the newspaper, or on the internet stories of places not forgotten by the busy world at large. Places like Silverton. E-ville. Springfield. Angel Grove. They would see the shocking, horrible, unexplainable events from those places, and think to themselves how fortunate they were that no such things happened in their sleepy little village.

Or at least they did until now.

Winston Aloysius Leonardo Lawrence Banger was the mayor of Bangerville, as was his father, Aloysius Leonardo Lawrence Banger, his grandfather, Leonardo Lawrence Banger, and his great-grandfather, Joe. Mayor Banger was working late at City Hall, preparing his speech for the upcoming sesquicentennial celebration of the town. Hunched over his notes, deep in thought, he was completely unaware of the small red dot of a laser sight slowly inching up his back and pausing at the back of his head. His ears had only begun to register the sound of breaking glass behind him when the assassin's bullet ripped through his skull, killing him instantly.

The sirens sped across town, but the rumors seemed to fly even faster, and before long the populace was whipped into a panic.

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Wallbanger is dead. He was Winston Aloysius Leonardo Lawrence Banger: Bangerville Aligned Beloved Mayor


GAME ON!

It is now Day Phase One. With 12 players still alive, it is 7 to lynch. You have until 12:00AM March 11th [EST] / 5:00AM March 11th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:
N/A

[petrija]

Fiiiiiiiiiiiirst.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Vote: Mr. T

[Zeel1]

Vote: Mr. T

Non-players voting for other non-players? What kind of evil world are we living in?! I see the fabric of society breaking down before our very eyes! It's a dog-eat-dog world, and all thoughts of civilized living are all but dissapated from our minds!

Earthquake! A massive flood! Locusts! It isn't my fault, I swear!!!


Also,

Vote: Wrestling Century

Just to keep up with that fad. :cool:

[BHK1978]

So maybe I should get the game started. WC why did you and your friends kill our beloved mayor?:D

[Zeel1]

So maybe I should get the game started. WC why did you and your friends kill our beloved mayor?:D

Didn't like the tax increase on sniper rifles he propositioned last month?

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase One. With 12 players still alive, it is 7 to lynch. You have until 12:00AM March 11th [EST] / 5:00AM March 11th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

Wrestling Century: 1 (Zeel1)

[petrija]

I refuse to let WC be the fallback plan every game. It's just not fair. Give the guy a freaking break. For reals.

On the other hand..

vote: MichiganHero

Who the heck are you?

[BHK1978]

I refuse to let WC be the fallback plan every game. It's just not fair. Give the guy a freaking break. For reals.

On the other hand..

vote: MichiganHero

Who the heck are you?

My question was just a joke, hence the :D. But I agree, I think it is rotten that we always vote out WC early in every game.

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase One. With 12 players still alive, it is 7 to lynch. You have until 12:00AM March 11th [EST] / 5:00AM March 11th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

Wrestling Century: 1 (Zeel1)
MichiganHero: 1 (petrija)

[Wallbanger]

OK, it's way past my bedtime. Be nice, kiddies.

[Nedew]

I refuse to let WC be the fallback plan every game. It's just not fair. Give the guy a freaking break. For reals.

No.

Vote: Wrestling Century

You know the drill WC, get revealing/blabbing ;)

[petrija]

No.

Vote: Wrestling Century

You know the drill WC, get revealing/blabbing ;)

I really hope you're joking.

[praguepride]

What's with all the WC hate? Can't we all just get along?

[petrija]

What's with all the WC hate? Can't we all just get along?

Hush, scumface.

[praguepride]

Hush, scumface.
:(:(

[Nedew]

I really hope you're joking.

God forbid i disagree with you eh? ;)

He'll usually come out with something or other under pressure. It might be a blatant lie or the absolute truth, but hey, it's something.

I've an axe to grind with him :p

[petrija]

God forbid i disagree with you eh? ;)

He'll usually come out with something or other under pressure. It might be a blatant lie or the absolute truth, but hey, it's something.

I've an axe to grind with him :p

Good to see you're learning.

Yes, this is true.

But that doesn't mean he should be our automatic choice. It's not fair. He hasn't actually had a chance to play a damn game. Not to mention. It involves ZERO thinking for yourself.

"Hey.. no one else to pressure, let's got after WC! That's what we always do! Duhhhrrr..."

Gone to work guys.

Back around 9ish.

[Nedew]

'Not fair'? There's nothing in the rules about ganging up on WC. He squeals relatively easily, should we not exploit that whenever possible? Or are we now not allowed to play the freakin' game and take advantage of certain things because it's 'not fair' on the person who's at the receiving end of it? Bullplop. You question the questionable, that's the game.

[canyoudothecancan]

You're going to possibly vote him out without any knowledge if hes good or bad?
Wowza!

[praguepride]

The problem is that he tends to lie whether he's town or scum, so it's hard to trust what he says anyway.

Plus from my perspective, he's a frequent mislynch target so it seems like it might be scum angling for a mislynch...

[canyoudothecancan]

The problem is that he tends to lie whether he's town or scum, so it's hard to trust what he says anyway.

Plus from my perspective, he's a frequent mislynch target so it seems like it might be scum angling for a mislynch...

Alright but I don't think its smart to vote for someone right now seeing as the game just started.

[Nedew]

You're going to possibly vote him out without any knowledge if hes good or bad?
Wowza!

Perhaps. Depends what he says. Surely every lynch is a potential mislynch as it is?

The problem is that he tends to lie whether he's town or scum, so it's hard to trust what he says anyway.

Plus from my perspective, he's a frequent mislynch target so it seems like it might be scum angling for a mislynch...

Or, y'know, town being proactive before someone's been offed in the night. Wacky idea i know.

[MichiganHero]

I refuse to let WC be the fallback plan every game. It's just not fair. Give the guy a freaking break. For reals.

On the other hand..

vote: MichiganHero

Who the heck are you?

A newbie
VOTE: Petrija
He voted me so an eye for an eye.

[canyoudothecancan]

Really? you're voting against him because he voted against you.
Nobody feels that your scum so why vote against him back?
If anything it makes both of you seems off the townie border.

[praguepride]

For the record, that him is really a her

carry on!

[canyoudothecancan]

Or is she/he?

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase One. With 12 players still alive, it is 7 to lynch. You have until 12:00AM March 11th [EST] / 5:00AM March 11th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

Wrestling Century: 2 (Zeel1, Nedew)
MichiganHero: 1 (petrija)
petrija: 1 (MichiganHero)

[MichiganHero]

Really? you're voting against him because he voted against you.
Nobody feels that your scum so why vote against him back?
If anything it makes both of you seems off the townie border.

Fair point
VOTE CHANGE : NO VOTE
I'll just wait until either a bandwagon starts or someone slips up.

[Zeel1]

Change Vote: No Vote

I was just messing around, usual Day 1 shenanigans. But I can get why there's more restraint to that in a Micro game, seeing as we pretty much start out in Sudden Death mode.. :p

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase One. With 12 players still alive, it is 7 to lynch. You have until 12:00AM March 11th [EST] / 5:00AM March 11th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

Wrestling Century: 1 (Nedew)
MichiganHero: 1 (petrija)


[Training Note: Some mods can be VERY picky about how votes are declared. MichiganHero used VOTE CHANGE instead of CHANGE VOTE. For me, his intent was clear and he did the really important thing and declared his vote in BOLD, but every mod is different. I mention this only to encourage rookies to develop good game mechanics habits early.]

[Zeel1]

[Training Note: Some mods can be VERY picky about how votes are declared. MichiganHero used VOTE CHANGE instead of CHANGE VOTE. For me, his intent was clear and he did the really important thing and declared his vote in BOLD, but every mod is different. I mention this only to encourage rookies to develop good game mechanics habits early.]

I know I'm part of the rookies, but I'll add this bit of advice too, if that's okay;

[Training Note: You'll find the mods vary from leniant to strict. For example, some mods will allow someone who's just starting out to edit a post, - as long as it was an innocent edit, and not to cover something important - and simply let them off with a warning the first time it happens, as long as said rookie promises to read the rules, and never let it happen again. Other mods, however, will enforce this rule much more strictly, and simply modkill you on the first offense, no matter the content, or your experiance. So, while there is a chance they'll be nice and let you off easy, it's really in your best intentions to avoid editing entirely.]

[Wallbanger]

But I can get why there's more restraint to that in a Micro game, seeing as we pretty much start out in Sudden Death mode.. :p

[Training Note: There are less formal ways of declaring suspicion than voting, that can be particularly useful when numbers are lower and individual vote weight is relatively higher. They're not used as often as perhaps they should (even by me), but I offer them for the edification of rookies.

IGMEOY: Short for I've Got My Eye On You. Doesn't count as a vote, but provides an easy way for a player to let another player know someone's paying attention to them.

FOS: Short for Finger Of Suspicion. Meant to be stronger than IGMEOY, but still not a vote.]

[Wallbanger]

I know I'm part of the rookies, but I'll add this bit of advice too, if that's okay;

[Training Note: You'll find the mods vary from leniant to strict. For example, some mods will allow someone who's just starting out to edit a post, - as long as it was an innocent edit, and not to cover something important - and simply let them off with a warning the first time it happens, as long as said rookie promises to read the rules, and never let it happen again. Other mods, however, will enforce this rule much more strictly, and simply modkill you on the first offense, no matter the content, or your experiance. So, while there is a chance they'll be nice and let you off easy, it's really in your best intentions to avoid editing entirely.]

No worries, this is good to mention (and thanks for adopting my convention for training notes! Set an example for those 'vets'! :p)

[Zeel1]

[Training Note: There are less formal ways of declaring suspicion than voting, that can be particularly useful when numbers are lower and individual vote weight is relatively higher. They're not used as often as perhaps they should (even by me), but I offer them for the edification of rookies.

IGMEOY: Short for I've Got My Eye On You. Doesn't count as a vote, but provides an easy way for a player to let another player know someone's paying attention to them.

FOS: Short for Finger Of Suspicion. Meant to be stronger than IGMEOY, but still not a vote.]

It might be a good idea to post a topic listing some of these abreviations. I often see some of these, and have absolutely no idea what they mean. (For example, what's WIFOM?)

Granted, it's easy to find out via google, but I'd rather not have to do that each time I see a new one, know what I mean?

[Zeel1]

No worries, this is good to mention (and thanks for adopting my convention for training notes! Set an example for those 'vets'! :p)

Hey, the lessons are what the game is here for, might as well make them official. :p

Maybe at the end of the game, you can round all the lessons up and add to them to the opening post(s)? You know, so rookies that aren't playing can have an easy-to-find referance?

[Wallbanger]

It might be a good idea to post a topic listing some of these abreviations. I often see some of these, and have absolutely no idea what they mean. (For example, what's WIFOM?)

Granted, it's easy to find out via google, but I'd rather not have to do that each time I see a new one, know what I mean?

I can make a list like that up and put in the Small Questions sticky above.

To answer your specific question:

WIFOM = Wine In Front Of Me. Essentially any tactic designed to promote a circular or recursive argument either as a timewaster or to make a set of choices appear equal when there should be a clear preference.

A very good summation of WIFOM can be found here (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Wine_in_Front_of_Me).

[Imarevenant]

It might be a good idea to post a topic listing some of these abreviations. I often see some of these, and have absolutely no idea what they mean. (For example, what's WIFOM?)

Granted, it's easy to find out via google, but I'd rather not have to do that each time I see a new one, know what I mean?

WIFOM = Wine In Front Of Me

It's a reference to the movie A Princess Bride; particularly to the scene in which the Westley and Vizzini have a battle of wits by placing a glass of wine in front of each of them. The caveat being Westley has poisoned one of the glasses and Vizzini must determine which glass it is.

The situation leads to recursive thinking as Vizzini attempts to use what he knows of Westley to determine where he would put the poisoned glass. Would Westley put it in front of his Enemy to get it away from himself, or would Westley put it in front of himself.

And to further the circular logic, would Westley himself use what he knows of Vizzini to determine that Vizzini would know Westley is the type of man to put the poison in front of his enemy and thus place the poison in front of himself to trick Vizzini.

and so on.. and so on......:p

[Wallbanger]

The Princess Bride = Greatest. Movie. EVAR! :p

[Wallbanger]

Attention:

Effective immediately, praguepride is being replaced by BlueStar.

A couple of notes on replacement etiquette:

1. Typically, we encourage folks to only sign up if they can commit to participating in the game. Inactivity to the point of needing to be replaced can affect the flow of the game by leaving abilities either unused or used randomly, or by depriving players who can communicate with each other the ability to collaborate.

2. That being said, things do happen. If you find yourself in a position where you cannot give the game the attention you should, let the mod know via PM, and the mod will take care of it.

3. If you are replaced in a game, don't talk about the game outside the thread while it is still going, just as if you were dead.

[canyoudothecancan]

Good luck BlueStar!

[canyoudothecancan]

Although you will probaley do better then me MR. VET!

[petrija]

So apparently we've got some avid newbies. Cass likes.

'Not fair'? There's nothing in the rules about ganging up on WC. He squeals relatively easily, should we not exploit that whenever possible? Or are we now not allowed to play the freakin' game and take advantage of certain things because it's 'not fair' on the person who's at the receiving end of it? Bullplop. You question the questionable, that's the game.

I understand what your saying, and the logic is potentially sound, if not for the following:

The problem is that he tends to lie whether he's town or scum, so it's hard to trust what he says anyway.

Plus from my perspective, he's a frequent mislynch target so it seems like it might be scum angling for a mislynch...

He's right.

And the past does not always dictate the future.

Might I also add, Nedew, you've got a very condescending tone. It's really not cool.

People are here to learn.

Alright but I don't think its smart to vote for someone right now seeing as the game just started.

Always good to be cautious, but this is all just a matter of Day 1 banter, a single vote isn't going to make or break the game at this point, so people mainly throw votes around, just to see the reaction. Reactions are everything.

For example. Mafia members may be a lot quicker to respond to pressure because they know they're guilty. Granted, this is not always the way it happens, because new players are often quick to crack under pressure as well. That being said, there are also vets who don't handle pressure well.

A newbie
VOTE: Petrija
He voted me so an eye for an eye.

She, sweetie. I wish I had a weiner.

Fair point
VOTE CHANGE : NO VOTE
I'll just wait until either a bandwagon starts or someone slips up.

This goes into what I was saying about reactions, this could be a simple "oh, they're right, I'll change my vote" or, "oh, I did something they didn't agree with, I ought to change it before I call too much attention to myself" or, "I'm new to this so I'm going to listen to all the advice I can get."

You decide.

[canyoudothecancan]

This goes into what I was saying about reactions, this could be a simple "oh, they're right, I'll change my vote" or, "oh, I did something they didn't agree with, I ought to change it before I call too much attention to myself" or, "I'm new to this so I'm going to listen to all the advice I can get."

You decide.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[i effin rule]

Haven't really had much time to post yet, but I'm here.


What I've noticed thus far is MichiganHero seems willing, by his own words, to jump on bandwagons. WC has yet again started a game under the gun, and while I understand the reasoning it just seems easy as always. Someone randomly starting the bandwagon and looking at who jumps on? Scum trying to get an easy lynch? Random bandwagon with scum jumper onners? Any of these could be a possibility.

Not being accusing here, just thought I would chime in. This is just to show that things you may consider minor, like random D1 bandwagons, can and will be used against you by talented scum

The day in all likelihood will end in a no lynch, most D1's do. It might be even more important in these micro games as a mislynch D1 will put us down 2 townies by the start of D2 leaving at best 7 of us.

Now that is not to say that everyone should just vote no lynch. We have to use the rest of the phase to try and get as much information as possible, even if it is just reads on people.

These are my vet ramblings for tonight :p

[Nedew]

I understand what your saying, and the logic is potentially sound, if not for the following:

To sum it up in your own words:

Reactions are everything.

Getting plenty of reactions here. Yours included.

Might I also add, Nedew, you've got a very condescending tone. It's really not cool.

:o Pot, kettle. Might I also add, you come across as if you've got your nose pointed at the sky. How you see me is exactly how i see you.

You decide.

I'm doing just that.

[petrija]

Yep. That's me.

Anyway.

What's with the activity of this game? Has everyone even checked in yet?

[400 ml]

Replace me please. Finals this week. Can't play much.

Sorry, should have foreseen this. D:

[petrija]

What's with the activity of this game? Has everyone even checked in yet?

400ml
EddieFnG
Spikerdude
Wrestling Century

Just a list of those who haven't posted yet.

Nothing substantial though.

[Nedew]

I don't think you could have timed putting 400ml on that list any better :p

Spiker's usually reasonably chatty, at least to the point that you can notice him. WC might be testing out a new strategy of "DONT ****ING TALK!", either of his own accord or that of a wise scum buddy. We'll see.

[petrija]

I don't think you could have timed putting 400ml on that list any better :p

Spiker's usually reasonably chatty, at least to the point that you can notice him. WC might be testing out a new strategy of "DONT ****ING TALK!", either of his own accord or that of a wise scum buddy. We'll see.

I know, I felt so silly.

And, I agree on the whole WC idea. But, if he DOES see this. Not talking at all isn't too much better than talking our faces off. Moderation.

[Nedew]

And, I agree on the whole WC idea. But, if he DOES see this. Not talking at all isn't too much better than talking our faces off. Moderation.

Hey, it worked for jester in Futurama.

[Wrestling Century]

And, I agree on the whole WC idea. But, if he DOES see this. Not talking at all isn't too much better than talking our faces off. Moderation.

I don't really want to post at all, because I want to use this game for its purpose, which is to learn, so I don't want to run my mouth off again and get lynched Day 1. So don't expect me to post too often.

[BlueStar]

Well, I'm in as a replacement Vet. I'll play this one, definitely. Just a real bad moment at work where I got a promotion (yay!), extra work (booo!) and no extra pay (double boo!).

Basically I'm screwed...

[BlueStar]

BTW, I don't consider myself a veteran player. Not play-wise, but I've been around so ... yeah.

[BlueStar]

Pokemon reference...Ash Ketchup time...

My bad English. For the newbies, I'm not a native English speaking person sort of a kind thing. Thingy...Oh well. I'll try my bestest!

You're going to possibly vote him out without any knowledge if hes good or bad?
Wowza!

Alright but I don't think its smart to vote for someone right now seeing as the game just started.

Well, this sort of picks up on my radar. It's like saying "I don't agree but..." and then saying "I agree but"..."whatever happens, you can't say I pushed anything but I'll go along."

IF I was scum, I'd try this route D1.

A newbie
VOTE: Petrija
He voted me so an eye for an eye.

Eye for an Eye is basically not playing things cool. Which either means you have a really good town power role, or that you are scum.
Sorry, I'm just posting my thoughts out loud as this is a training game so I'm sort of telling what I am thinking.

Any really good player will probably think I'm wrong anyway.

For the record, that him is really a her

carry on!

Yep, a he's a she. Welcome, Lou Reed. Take a walk on the wild side.

BTW: off the record, I hate Lou Reed's "songs".

Fair point
VOTE CHANGE : NO VOTE
I'll just wait until either a bandwagon starts or someone slips up.

Scum rarely slips up D1, unless there's a reason. I remember a "long long time ago" (Don McLean) .... anyhow, I was going to say...LostRealms (where did he go?), slipped up when not being able to tell the first letter of the eleventh word in the win-condition. That = lynch of scum. A slip up now? Hey, as a replacement I could have stayed quiet for another couple of hours and skipped this whole phase.

Good luck BlueStar!

Thanks.

Hmm...decision time.

Vote: canyoudothecancan

Gut call.

[BHK1978]

My bad English. For the newbies, I'm not a native English speaking person sort of a kind thing. Thingy...Oh well. I'll try my bestest!

I don't know why you always say this Blue because you English is perfect. Heck English is my native language and you speak it better then I do.

[Wrestling Century]

I don't know why you always say this Blue because you English is perfect. Heck English is my native language and you speak it better then I do.

Yeah, BlueStar, you speak English great. You are a way better speller than I am, I you also have better grammar.

[Wrestling Century]

Yeah, BlueStar, you speak English great. You are a way better speller than I am, you also have better grammar.

Crap, needed to correct something!

[canyoudothecancan]

Pokemon reference...Ash Ketchup time...

My bad English. For the newbies, I'm not a native English speaking person sort of a kind thing. Thingy...Oh well. I'll try my bestest!





Well, this sort of picks up on my radar. It's like saying "I don't agree but..." and then saying "I agree but"..."whatever happens, you can't say I pushed anything but I'll go along."

IF I was scum, I'd try this route D1.



Eye for an Eye is basically not playing things cool. Which either means you have a really good town power role, or that you are scum.
Sorry, I'm just posting my thoughts out loud as this is a training game so I'm sort of telling what I am thinking.

Any really good player will probably think I'm wrong anyway.



Yep, a he's a she. Welcome, Lou Reed. Take a walk on the wild side.

BTW: off the record, I hate Lou Reed's "songs".



Scum rarely slips up D1, unless there's a reason. I remember a "long long time ago" (Don McLean) .... anyhow, I was going to say...LostRealms (where did he go?), slipped up when not being able to tell the first letter of the eleventh word in the win-condition. That = lynch of scum. A slip up now? Hey, as a replacement I could have stayed quiet for another couple of hours and skipped this whole phase.



Thanks.

Hmm...decision time.

Vote: canyoudothecancan

Gut call.

Actually BlueStar I wasn't doing any of these "pressure votes" but yet you say I agree with it.
I don't know what you're thinking but I'll just hope you make the right decision that I am not scum.

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase One. With 12 players still alive, it is 7 to lynch. You have until 12:00AM March 11th [EST] / 5:00AM March 11th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

Wrestling Century: 1 (Nedew)
MichiganHero: 1 (petrija)
canyoudothecancan: 1 (BlueStar)

[petrija]

BTW, I don't consider myself a veteran player. Not play-wise, but I've been around so ... yeah.

Me either. I definitely feel I've still got lots to learn.

[Wallbanger]

If I'm figuring correctly, there's just a little more than two hours left in the phase.

[Wallbanger]

Day Phase One Is Over.

[Wallbanger]

Day One


The citizens of Bangerville, still in shock from the assassination of the Mayor, gathered at City Hall in an attempt to find some answers.

For the moment, none were to be had.

In frustration, fingers began to be pointed, accusations made. Many observed in stoic silence, betraying no hint of their thoughts about what was said or who said them.

As the day came to a close, the people returned to their homes, unsure of their futures.

No lynch was achieved.

Vote Count:

Wrestling Century: 1 (Nedew)
MichiganHero: 1 (petrija)
canyoudothecancan: 1 (BlueStar)

[Wallbanger]

It is now Night Phase One. You have until 12:00AM March 12th [EST] / 5:00AM March 12th [GMT] to declare actions (via PM to the moderator) for this phase.

[BlueStar]

/insert night spaghetti here...

[BHK1978]

/insert night spaghetti here...

Well you could always check out this diary (no it is not mine):

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72945

[Wallbanger]

Night Phase One Is Over.

[Training Note: "But wait! It's still a long time before deadline!" This is true. However, if all possible night action declarations have been given to the mod, the mod can choose to end phase early. In a small game this happens fairly frequently. Also, it's nice to shift the phase timing so that folks in other parts of the world aren't having to wait up until oh-dark-thirty for writeups.]

[Wallbanger]

Night 1

The populace of Bangerville settled in for the night. Doors were shut and locked, shades drawn, alarms set, and prayers prayed in the hopes that the night would be uneventful.

Some, however, knew that to best help themselves, they must venture out into the night regardless of the risks.

---


She was determined for there to be no more death. And so she kept her vigil, so she might be in position to respond if her skills were needed.

---


Elsewhere, another vigil was being kept, for another reason. He was focused on finding the root cause for the crisis his town was thrust into.

---


Still elsewhere, another house was approached. Locked doors were picked, alarms disarmed, and a silencer attached to a weapon.

---


It was not long after sunrise when the victim was discovered, having suffered the same fate as the mayor - a bullet to the skull.

---


BHK1978 is dead. He was Marquita Cook, Bangerville Aligned Happy Citizen.

---


It is now Day Phase Two. With 11 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 4:00PM March 13th [EST] / 9:00PM March 13th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

---


Announcement: Effective immediately, 400ml is being replaced by moon_lit_tears.

[BHK1978]

Good luck town!

[canyoudothecancan]

Time for the figuring out process :)

[i effin rule]

Thought I would share this with you all. For new players it may be something to look at. I don't think any of this should be followed 100%, but knowing some things to look for is always helpful. In such small games we have to rely more on reading players than people with abilities (especially in generic training games).

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Finding_Mafia

[petrija]

What role do we think that might have been? Vanilla?

[moon_lit_tears]

What role do we think that might have been? Vanilla?


Yeah I think so.

[BlueStar]

What role do we think that might have been? Vanilla?

Pretty sure that's a vanilla townie.

Vote: Moon_lit_tears


For asking that question.

[BlueStar]

Wronge person.../facepalm.

Change vote: Petrija

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase Two. With 11 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 4:00PM March 13th [EST] / 9:00PM March 13th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

petrija: 1 (BlueStar)

[moon_lit_tears]

Pretty sure that's a vanilla townie.

Vote: Moon_lit_tears


For asking that question.

What???

Wronge person.../facepalm.

Change vote: Petrija

Oh.

Now this strikes me as odd.

You put a vote on one of the players trying to get conversation started.

I believe that yeah he was vanilla. The reason I say that is because this being a training game how many *power* roles would be in?

[BlueStar]

I'm vanilla.
I have exactly the same role description.

See my point?

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm vanilla.
I have exactly the same role description.

See my point?

Yeah, but I also see the point of wonder when a townie comes up if that is a vanilla or one of our (or our only) power role. right?

[moon_lit_tears]

Yeah, but I also see the point of wondering when a townie comes up if that is a vanilla or one of our (or our only) power role. right?

Stupid morning. :(

[BlueStar]

Yeah, but I also see the point of wonder when a townie comes up if that is a vanilla or one of our (or our only) power role. right?

You're missing my point, I think.

[BlueStar]

If Pet is vanilla like BHK, why ask the question?

If Pet is not vanilla but a townie power role, why ask the question.

If Pet is scum and fishing....that's be a reason to ask the question.

[moon_lit_tears]

If Pet is vanilla like BHK, why ask the question?

If Pet is not vanilla but a townie power role, why ask the question.

If Pet is scum and fishing....that's be a reason to ask the question.

Very good point....

[BlueStar]

Hence the vote.

[moon_lit_tears]

Hence the vote.

After reading a bit and thinking about it, I think you are on to something here.

VOTE Petrija

[Nedew]

I'll roll with you guys on this. Sound logic, worth pursuing, and she gets on my tits anyway. The defence of WC will be worth looking into too if she turns up scum.
Odds on she jumps on the 'gets on my tits' remark...
Vote: Petrija

[moon_lit_tears]

I'll roll with you guys on this. Sound logic, worth pursuing, and she gets on my tits anyway. The defence of WC will be worth looking into too if she turns up scum.
Odds on she jumps on the 'gets on my tits' remark...
Vote: Petrija

LOL.

This makes me wonder about you. :p

[Nedew]

LOL.

This makes me wonder about you. :p

Tsk, yankee-bum, we use that phrase a lot over here :p

[moon_lit_tears]

Tsk, yankee-bum, we use that phrase a lot over here :p


Hey no need for insults. Don't make me get bossman on you. Cuz I will ya'know? :p

[Nedew]

Hey no need for insults. Don't make me get bossman on you. Cuz I will ya'know? :p

That sounds vaguely S&M and i'm just not into that i'm afraid :p
Or am I?
...Aaaaanyway :)

[petrija]

Wronge person.../facepalm.

Change vote: Petrija

If Pet is vanilla like BHK, why ask the question?

If Pet is not vanilla but a townie power role, why ask the question.

If Pet is scum and fishing....that's be a reason to ask the question.

After reading a bit and thinking about it, I think you are on to something here.

VOTE Petrija


Wrong tree, guys.

And I'm not claiming this early. Sorry.

[petrija]

I suppose I should at least clarify why I asked.

This game is moving ridiculously slow, so I was trying to get conversation going.

I understand why you say a mafia member would be fishing, but is it not reasonable for a town member to want to know what they lost, in order to gauge our standings?

[petrija]

Side note. We still haven't heard from Spikerdude or Eddie.

[MichiganHero]

If Pet is vanilla like BHK, why ask the question?

If Pet is not vanilla but a townie power role, why ask the question.

If Pet is scum and fishing....that's be a reason to ask the question.

I agree with BlueStar's logic. If you are town or vanilla, why try to find out other people's roles.

VOTE=Petrija
She seems to be looking for people to target.

[petrija]

I agree with BlueStar's logic. If you are town or vanilla, why try to find out other people's roles.

VOTE=Petrija
She seems to be looking for people to target.

Read my last post.

And how is examining the dead looking for people to target?

[petrija]

Regardless, I'm at L-2 which makes it ever so easy for scum to jump in and seal the deal. I get a sort of weird feeling about Michigan in that sense, but not enough to call it a vote.

Anyway.

This far into voting is where you ask questions, not blindly vote. However, like I said I'm really not happy about claiming right now. There are still questions to be asked though, so feel free and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

[i effin rule]

Wrong tree, guys.

And I'm not claiming this early. Sorry.

Even if it means you'll die?

I suppose I should at least clarify why I asked.

This game is moving ridiculously slow, so I was trying to get conversation going.

I understand why you say a mafia member would be fishing, but is it not reasonable for a town member to want to know what they lost, in order to gauge our standings?

I think you missed the point. If your role was the same as his, what is the point in asking? You would have know reason to ask about what the town lost, since you would know.

[i effin rule]

Even if it means you'll die?



I think you missed the point. If your role was the same as his, what is the point in asking? You would have no reason to ask about what the town lost, since you would know.

Fixed.

[petrija]

Even if it means you'll die?



I think you missed the point. If your role was the same as his, what is the point in asking? You would have know reason to ask about what the town lost, since you would know.

I think it's obvious my role isn't the same as his, by now. I've never tried to say it was.

I asked what we thought we lost.

[i effin rule]

I think it's obvious my role isn't the same as his, by now. I've never tried to say it was.

I asked what we thought we lost.

Let me guess, you're a miller?

[Nedew]

Side note. We still haven't heard from Spikerdude or Eddie.

Oh you're right, let's just sit here and wait for them to turn up :rolleyes:

Looks like you just might have to claim.

[petrija]

Nope.

[petrija]

Oh you're right, let's just sit here and wait for them to turn up :rolleyes:

Looks like you just might have to claim.

I pointed it out so if need be, Banger could look into it and replace them.
Easy to get lost in the crowd if you don't have to send in an ability.

[petrija]

Nope.

That was supposed to come right after IER. As in, nope, I'm not a miller.

I mean, you guys can investigate me, but somehow I don't see that being possible.

[petrija]

That was supposed to come right after IER. As in, nope, I'm not a miller.

I mean, you guys can investigate me, but somehow I don't see that being possible.


Although, looking at the write up. Maybe it is. Unlikely though, I think.

[Nedew]

I mean, you guys can investigate me, but somehow I don't see that being possible.

Being comfortable with being investigated doesn't exactly clear you. Don.

[petrija]

Being comfortable with being investigated doesn't exactly clear you. Don.

Read more carefully into what I said.

[petrija]

I'm here for about another 15 minutes. I'm perfectly happy to answer questions. We've got over 24 hours to make a lynch.

I'd suggest not lynching me while I'm gone.

I also suggest looking closer at this dispute when it comes down to my death. Nedew is either scum, over eager town, or just really doesn't like me.

[Nedew]

Read more carefully into what I said.

Whether you were suggesting that we didn't have an investigator, or that you'd be dead beforehand, doesn't really matter either way. Like that's meant to make us reconsider?

I'm here for about another 15 minutes. I'm perfectly happy to answer questions. We've got over 24 hours to make a lynch.

I hate the "Oh hey guys, let's just wait around for a scum distraction!" argument with a passion. It's approaching WIFOM territory.

I'd suggest not lynching me while I'm gone.

Very novel of you :rolleyes:

I also suggest looking closer at this dispute when it comes down to my death. Nedew is either scum, over eager town, or just really doesn't like me.

Two out of three ain't bad.

[petrija]

Whether you were suggesting that we didn't have an investigator, or that you'd be dead beforehand, doesn't really matter either way. Like that's meant to make us reconsider?



There's one possibility you're not considering.

Vote: Nedew

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase Two. With 11 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 4:00PM March 13th [EST] / 9:00PM March 13th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

petrija: 4 (BlueStar, moon_lit_tears, Nedew, MichiganHero)
Nedew: 1 (petrija)

[Nedew]

There's one possibility you're not considering.

That BHK was an investigator? With that role title?

[petrija]

That BHK was an investigator? With that role title?

One more.

[Nedew]

One more.

That you're the investigator?

Or the ****ing riddler at this rate :rolleyes:

[petrija]

Mk so. I'm off to work.

I'll be back in about 9 and a half hours.

[BlueStar]

Wrong tree, guys.

And I'm not claiming this early. Sorry.

Interesting. No response to the "Vanilla townie question" though.

Side note. We still haven't heard from Spikerdude or Eddie.

Seems a distraction.

I pointed it out so if need be, Banger could look into it and replace them.
Easy to get lost in the crowd if you don't have to send in an ability.

Asking MODs to do something...

That you're the investigator?

Or the ****ing riddler at this rate :rolleyes:

That one made me laugh.

Vote stays.

[BlueStar]

About inactives....I'm very weary of lynching them, but look at Jester last game...

Whether or not it's "fair play" .... it got things done.

[EddieFnG]

Sorry about my inactiveness, I've just made an intercontinental move from Latin America back to Europe, so, before I go back over the pages, what happened in a nutshell? :)

[Zeel1]

Sorry about my inactiveness, I've just made an intercontinental move from Latin America back to Europe, so, before I go back over the pages, what happened in a nutshell? :)

Okay, you're new, so I won't press you for this, but for the record: asking for a recap of the phase is considered by many vets to be a scumtell.

[Zeel1]

Okay, you're new, so I won't press you for this, but for the record: asking for a recap of the phase is considered by many vets to be a scumtell.

Never mind, just checked and you've played 20 games, according to you.

In that case, /presses for this :p

[EddieFnG]

Haha yeah, and I'm still no good.

I can't quite see how asking for a recap is a scumtell when I'm just trying to find out what happened. :P

[moon_lit_tears]

Haha yeah, and I'm still no good.

I can't quite see how asking for a recap is a scumtell when I'm just trying to find out what happened. :P


Because the phase can be told by different people and get different opinions.

Best thing is to read and get your own feel for what happened.

[Zeel1]

Haha yeah, and I'm still no good.

I can't quite see how asking for a recap is a scumtell when I'm just trying to find out what happened. :P

I myself am not that experianced either, so I'm not 100% on that. There are a few things about Mafia that still don't really make a lot of sense to me - why copying from your Role PM is a modkillable offense, for example. But as for this, I think it's because inactiveness itself is scummy, as is popping in to make a couple of useless fluff posts that make you seem as innocent, as well as unhelpful. So when you pop in, and ask what happened during the phase, implying that you didn't read, it makes people think that's what you were trying to do.

I must say, I find the fact that you played 20 games without seeing someone point it out as a scumtell to be quite suspicious..happens once a game around here. :p

[EddieFnG]

Haha, I guess the way they play over on the "almighty" EWB board is quite a bit different.

Also, I gave good reasoning for my inactiveness, and said I was about to read over the thread.

[canyoudothecancan]

I think we should question petrija before start voting against he/her.
Take slow guys we got lots of time.

[canyoudothecancan]

I would edit my typo but I don't wanna get mod killed
"take it"

[moon_lit_tears]

I think we should question petrija before start voting against her.
Take slow guys we got lots of time.

See the problem with that is this.

Question=1 day
She comes on (because she has work and life and won't be here 24/7) and speaks.
People believe her
There goes about 6 more hours. Leaves us with about 6 hours to find/question another person.

[moon_lit_tears]

See the problem with that is this.

Question=1 day
She comes on (because she has work and life and won't be here 24/7) and speaks.
People believe her or don't
There goes about 6 more hours. Leaves us with about 6 hours to find/question another person.

That's what I get for multi-tasking.

[EddieFnG]

.. stop the multi tasking and rephrase that? Maybe it's my Dutchness but I didn't understand a word of that. :/

[moon_lit_tears]

.. stop the multi tasking and rephrase that? Maybe it's my Dutchness but I didn't understand a word of that. :/



Sorry I am losing money at Err I mean playing poker.

Basically to question someone gains nothing. Pressure gets the job done.
To pressure someone you put votes on them. If you don't do that then you waste pretty much the entire phase. A no lynch means horrible things to the town unless you can get something done during the day like gather information.

If you get no information or get a no lynch for the day you have gotten nothing and the town will go down a player.

[Wrestling Century]

Vote: Petrija Because if you come up scum then the town might think that I am scum.

[petrija]

really guys? ive pretty much claimed without outright saying it. What more do you want on D2?

[petrija]

Interesting. No response to the "Vanilla townie question" though.


Which question?

See the problem with that is this.

Question=1 day
She comes on (because she has work and life and won't be here 24/7) and speaks.
People believe her
There goes about 6 more hours. Leaves us with about 6 hours to find/question another person.

Sorry I am losing money at Err I mean playing poker.

Basically to question someone gains nothing. Pressure gets the job done.
To pressure someone you put votes on them. If you don't do that then you waste pretty much the entire phase. A no lynch means horrible things to the town unless you can get something done during the day like gather information.

If you get no information or get a no lynch for the day you have gotten nothing and the town will go down a player.

You realize this logic makes no sense? You NEED to ask questions to get the info. Pressuring does nothing if you have no questions to ask when that person is under pressure. You need to know what you're pressuring them for.

[moon_lit_tears]

Which question?





You realize this logic makes no sense? You NEED to ask questions to get the info. Pressuring does nothing if you have no questions to ask when that person is under pressure. You need to know what you're pressuring them for.

But questions without pressure means nothing as well. How many times do people ignore questions to spare time?

[petrija]

But questions without pressure means nothing as well. How many times do people ignore questions to spare time?

Oh no doubt there's no motivation to answer without pressure, but you literally said questioning does nothing.

Anyone wanna ask anything else befor scum comes in and throws on the final vote? I don't know why there are still votes on me.

[moon_lit_tears]

Oh no doubt there's no motivation to answer without pressure, but you literally said questioning does nothing.

Anyone wanna ask anything else befor scum comes in and throws on the final vote? I don't know why there are still votes on me.

I agree.

CHANGE VOTE no vote

I forgot to do this last post.

[canyoudothecancan]

Oh no doubt there's no motivation to answer without pressure, but you literally said questioning does nothing.

Anyone wanna ask anything else befor scum comes in and throws on the final vote? I don't know why there are still votes on me.

Yes what is a Petrija.

[petrija]

Yes what is a Petrija.

Haha, it's a name, darlin.

[i effin rule]

Vote: Petrija Because if you come up scum then the town might think that I am scum.

This screams scummy to me. Given what she has said, I'm inclined to believe you're probably scummy. Then again, this seems to be how you play.

[i effin rule]

Oh no doubt there's no motivation to answer without pressure, but you literally said questioning does nothing.

Anyone wanna ask anything else befor scum comes in and throws on the final vote? I don't know why there are still votes on me.


My guess is that a good amount of scum were already voting on you.

[petrija]

My guess is that a good amount of scum were already voting on you.

I pointed that out earlier. Thus where my vote stands, and not because of disagreement. Because of aggression.

[canyoudothecancan]

My guess is that a good amount of scum were already voting on you.

I agree.

[BlueStar]

Well, what info do you have, pet?

[petrija]

Nothing of note just yet.

[Wrestling Century]

*Sigh* This is going nowhere IMO.
Change Vote: No Vote

If petrija might be the only non-vanilla townie, then why risk losing our only power role by lynching her?

[Nedew]

If petrija might be the only non-vanilla townie, then why risk losing our only power role by lynching her?

Risk/reward. That's the entire basis here. You can never be 100% sure about anyone being anything. You take the risk because you hope to lynch scum. That's the entire purpose here. It's worrying you feel the need to ask that question.

I'll change vote if and/or when a more promising path pops up. Right now though, i don't see any huge reason to take it off.

Your "Sigh, this is going nowhere" is very dodgy looking though WC. I know logic really doesn't apply to you, but still.

[i effin rule]

Risk/reward. That's the entire basis here. You can never be 100% sure about anyone being anything. You take the risk because you hope to lynch scum. That's the entire purpose here. It's worrying you feel the need to ask that question.

I'll change vote if and/or when a more promising path pops up. Right now though, i don't see any huge reason to take it off.

Your "Sigh, this is going nowhere" is very dodgy looking though WC. I know logic really doesn't apply to you, but still.

I'm pretty sure in these micro training games that we're going with the traditional set up. 1 doc, 1 cop, the rest vanilla. Miller is a possibility, but certainly isn't guaranteed.

So what this tells me is that you are more than willing to "test" whether or not our only investigator is as such. The only way I see this lynch going through is if someone wants to counter claim the cop.

Until then, you seem determined to lynch an investigator, which is strange.

Vote: Nedew

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase Two. With 11 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 4:00PM March 13th [EST] / 9:00PM March 13th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

petrija: 3 (BlueStar, Nedew, MichiganHero)
Nedew: 2 (petrija, i effin rule)

[Nedew]

I'm pretty sure in these micro training games that we're going with the traditional set up. 1 doc, 1 cop, the rest vanilla. Miller is a possibility, but certainly isn't guaranteed.

Uh, ok? I didn't question that.

So what this tells me is that you are more than willing to "test" whether or not our only investigator is as such. The only way I see this lynch going through is if someone wants to counter claim the cop.

Damn right i'm willing to test it. By your logic, if everyone claimed investigator, we wouldn't lynch any of them because god forbid we test that :rolleyes:

Until then, you seem determined to lynch an investigator, which is strange.

Don't twist my words. I want to see Petrija lynched because right now, i don't believe she is the investigator.

[i effin rule]

Uh, ok? I didn't question that.



Damn right i'm willing to test it. By your logic, if everyone claimed investigator, we wouldn't lynch any of them because god forbid we test that :rolleyes:



Don't twist my words. I want to see Petrija lynched because right now, i don't believe she is the investigator.

Except no one has counter claimed. So in your mind losing our ONLY investigator is an acceptable risk based on your "hunch"? No thanks.

[Nedew]

Except no one has counter claimed. So in your mind losing our ONLY investigator is an acceptable risk based on your "hunch"? No thanks.

I didn't start the vote on her. I was 3rd one on. It's not just something i picked out of the sky. I found BlueStar's logic solid and still do.

Surely lynching anyone is risking lynching our only investigator/protector/whatever? Do we just blindly trust all claimants?

[i effin rule]

I didn't start the vote on her. I was 3rd one on. It's not just something i picked out of the sky. I found BlueStar's logic solid and still do.

Surely lynching anyone is risking lynching our only investigator/protector/whatever? Do we just blindly trust all claimants?

BlueStar's logic was "mine is the same as BHK, why would she ask that question if hers was the same?". That logic would be fine if she wasn't claiming cop, which would explain why her role is different.

[Nedew]

BlueStar's logic was "mine is the same as BHK, why would she ask that question if hers was the same?". That logic would be fine if she wasn't claiming cop, which would explain why her role is different.

Eh, fair enough i spose. I stand by not changing my vote until something else pops up though. She did call me condescending after all ;)

[Wallbanger]

Just a little over an hour left in the phase.

I may not get to the writeup immediately as I have errands to run this afternoon. Phase will be over at the appointed time, however, any votes after that but before the writeup is posted will not be valid.

[MichiganHero]

I'm pretty sure in these micro training games that we're going with the traditional set up. 1 doc, 1 cop, the rest vanilla. Miller is a possibility, but certainly isn't guaranteed.

So what this tells me is that you are more than willing to "test" whether or not our only investigator is as such. The only way I see this lynch going through is if someone wants to counter claim the cop.

Until then, you seem determined to lynch an investigator, which is strange.

Vote: Nedew

There is no saying if Petrija is lying or not. It could a good scum tactic. To me right now it seems like one.

[moon_lit_tears]

There is no saying if Petrija is lying or not. It could a good scum tactic. To me right now it seems like one.

If it is then it is a ballsy one.

She is either telling the truth or trying to draw out the real one.

The fact is right now we really have no other choice but to believe her.

[Wrestling Century]

I have no idea about whether or not petrija is really the investigator, but what I do know is that this game is moving really slow IMO. We really don't have any leads, but I don't really want to jump on the bandwagon unless the town really wants me to. So, do I vote on petrija, or should I not?

[i effin rule]

I have no idea about whether or not petrija is really the investigator, but what I do know is that this game is moving really slow IMO. We really don't have any leads, but I don't really want to jump on the bandwagon unless the town really wants me to. So, do I vote on petrija, or should I not?

Phase is over so voting won't really do any good now.

[Wallbanger]

Day Phase Two Is Over.

[Wallbanger]

Day Two


Another death put the citizens of Bangerville even more on edge. Accusations and arguments came easier than the previous day, but uncertainty was still the overriding theme.

They disbanded at sundown to return to their homes, but rest seemed unlikely.

No lynch was achieved.

Vote Count:

petrija: 3 (BlueStar, Nedew, MichiganHero)
Nedew: 2 (petrija, i effin rule)

[Wallbanger]

It is now Night Phase Two. You have until 5:00PM March 14th [EST] /10:00PM March 14th [GMT] to declare actions (via PM to the moderator) for this phase.

[Wrestling Century]

Crap! Another no lynch? Guys, the scum is going to beat us if we don't do lynches!

[i effin rule]

Crap! Another no lynch? Guys, the scum is going to beat us if we don't do lynches!

A no lynch is better than a mislynch in these games.

[petrija]

There is no saying if Petrija is lying or not. It could a good scum tactic. To me right now it seems like one.

Why exactly does it seem like one?

[Nedew]

Crap! Another no lynch? Guys, the scum is going to beat us if we don't do lynches!

Really? I thought we'd just no lynch every phase and the scum would just kill themselves off! That's where i've been going wrong!

[moon_lit_tears]

Really? I thought we'd just no lynch every phase and the scum would just kill themselves off! That's where i've been going wrong!


That is something a um would say. :p

Oh yeah I went there. :cool:

[Wallbanger]

A Brief Logistical Note:

Last night the US/Canada shifted to Daylight Savings Time. Europe does not shift to their Summer Time until March 28. Here is the updated night phase status reflecting this change.

---


It is now Night Phase Two. You have until 5:00PM March 14th [EDT] /9:00PM March 14th [GMT] to declare actions (via PM to the moderator) for this phase.

[BlueStar]

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77883

Diary pimpage time: for the latest on The Snowman, Jason Dempsey, Wade Orson or Sharp & Co ... go to the above.

[Wallbanger]

Night Phase Two Is Over.

[Wallbanger]

Night 2



Bangerville's citizens did all they could to keep from descending into anarchy. They redoubled their efforts to lock, barricade, and protect themselves from the reign of terror just outside.

---


Frustrated by being in the wrong place to be useful the previous night, she changed locations and began her watch.

---


He also made his way to another part of town, hoping to find what he sought.

---


And like the others, the last of the nocturnal interlopers went elsewhere, much to the detriment of another Bangerville citizen.

---


The citizens were horrified to find yet another victim in the morning. Why? Why them? What had their town done to deserve this?

---


BlueStar is dead. He was Cecelia Lizzie Cobb, Bangerville Aligned Happy Citizen.

(That's what you get for pimping diaries, I guess. :p )

---


It is now Day Phase Three. With 10 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 5:00PM March 16th [EDT] / 9:00PM March 16th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

[MichiganHero]

By my reckoning, that is two vanilla townie's dead. Sh!t.

[petrija]

By my reckoning, mlt has some explaining to do.

Ms. Non-town aligned.

vote: moon_lit_tears

[i effin rule]

By my reckoning, that is two vanilla townie's dead. Sh!t.

Hmm. Phase ends early. MichiganHero posts like 3 minutes after. Voted for pet and kept the vote on. Then wraps things up with this "aww shucks" post. I find all this particularly interesting.


Vote: MichiganHero

[Wrestling Century]

Petrija, why did you kill BlueStar? Don't say that you didn't, because I know that you targetted him!

Vote: petrija

[Zeel1]

Vote: Moon_lit_tears

Seems pretty cut-and-dry here. Although, Pet, if you're telling the truth about being an investigator, then I really can't beleive scum didn't go after you. Probably our most important asset in this game.

[i effin rule]

By my reckoning, mlt has some explaining to do.

Ms. Non-town aligned.

vote: moon_lit_tears

Damn it! Way to post while I'm posting.


Change Vote: moon_lit_tears

Time to talk.

[Wrestling Century]

By my reckoning, mlt has some explaining to do.

Ms. Non-town aligned.

vote: moon_lit_tears

Hmm. Phase ends early. MichiganHero posts like 3 minutes after. Voted for pet and kept the vote on. Then wraps things up with this "aww shucks" post. I find all this particularly interesting.


Vote: MichiganHero

Petrija, why did you kill BlueStar? Don't say that you didn't, because I know that you targetted him!

Vote: petrija

Hmm, three different votes with good reason. Dun dun dun DUN! :D

[Wrestling Century]

Damn it! Way to post while I'm posting.


Change Vote: moon_lit_tears

Time to talk.

Correction. 4 different votes with good reason. DUN DUN DUN DUN! :p

[i effin rule]

Petrija, why did you kill BlueStar? Don't say that you didn't, because I know that you targetted him!

Vote: petrija

lol really? Well I guess we know who scum #2 is.

[Wrestling Century]

lol really? Well I guess we know who scum #2 is.

Are you being sarcastic? :confused:

[i effin rule]

Are you being sarcastic? :confused:

No.

[moon_lit_tears]

By my reckoning, mlt has some explaining to do.

Ms. Non-town aligned.

vote: moon_lit_tears

Either Pet is scum or something else is going on here.

I am curious as to why you are still alive after coming out like you did.

[Wrestling Century]

Now what just a minute here! I just thought of another reason (besides my results) why petrija is probably scum. If she really is the investigator, then why wasn't she night killed last night? Does everbody really think that they'd let what could possibly be the only power role to survive?

[canyoudothecancan]

FOS: MichiganHero
You seem to be really pushy to vote against people.

[petrija]

I like that there's discussion going on.

Petrija, why did you kill BlueStar? Don't say that you didn't, because I know that you targetted him!

Vote: petrija

That's.. weird. I've targetted two people. Zeel Night1, and MLT Night2.

WC PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do some reading on your role. Make sure you 100% understand the result you got. I'm not being mislynched cause you misunderstood.

Now what just a minute here! I just thought of another reason (besides my results) why petrija is probably scum. If she really is the investigator, then why wasn't she night killed last night? Does everbody really think that they'd let what could possibly be the only power role to survive?

I'm assuming there'd be a protector. Who is also smart.

[Zeel1]

That's.. weird. I've targetted two people. Zeel Night1, and MLT Night2.

Why am I always every investigator's first choice?

[Nedew]

Why am I always every investigator's first choice?

Because you're a suck up, dammnit :p

I want to see MLT vs. Petrija with special random interference by WC continue for a little bit before i come down hard on one of these ladies. And i just re-read that sentence...

[petrija]

Petrija, why did you kill BlueStar? Don't say that you didn't, because I know that you targetted him!

Vote: petrija

WC. Think for a moment here. Is the only reason that someone targets another is to kill? Of course not. What if I had targeted him to investigate him? Now, again, that's not what I did, But think before you speak.

lol really? Well I guess we know who scum #2 is.

What are you suggesting?

Either Pet is scum or something else is going on here.

I am curious as to why you are still alive after coming out like you did.

That's really all you have to say about turning up non-town aligned? Start speaking.

Now what just a minute here! I just thought of another reason (besides my results) why petrija is probably scum. If she really is the investigator, then why wasn't she night killed last night? Does everbody really think that they'd let what could possibly be the only power role to survive?

My guess is that:

a) I was protected.
b) Scum ASSUMED I was protected, and therefore didn't try.
c) Scum assumed I'd be WATCHED (which I was obviously,) and didn't want to risk being caught.

Based on what I understand, and the result I got on MLT.. The only thing I can assume is that I went to visit MLT and followed her to kill Bluestar.

Particularly with the way MLT hasn't bothered to defend herself.

Note, people, there also hasn't been a counter claim of investigator.

WC, is your character male or female?

[moon_lit_tears]

Because you're a suck up, dammnit :p

I want to see MLT vs. Petrija with special random interference by WC continue for a little bit before i come down hard on one of these ladies. And i just re-read that sentence...

/Looks for a tub of jell-o.

Oh nevermind wrong game. :D

[i effin rule]

WC. Think for a moment here. Is the only reason that someone targets another is to kill? Of course not. What if I had targeted him to investigate him? Now, again, that's not what I did, But think before you speak.



What are you suggesting?



That's really all you have to say about turning up non-town aligned? Start speaking.



My guess is that:

a) I was protected.
b) Scum ASSUMED I was protected, and therefore didn't try.
c) Scum assumed I'd be WATCHED (which I was obviously,) and didn't want to risk being caught.

Based on what I understand, and the result I got on MLT.. The only thing I can assume is that I went to visit MLT and followed her to kill Bluestar.

Particularly with the way MLT hasn't bothered to defend herself.

Note, people, there also hasn't been a counter claim of investigator.

WC, is your character male or female?

I'm 87% sure that Banger said this would be a traditional training game with a basic setup. That is one mean 1 doc, 1 cop, nothing else. Maybe a miller, as I've said, but it isn't certain. Those are the ONLY abilities.

What I'm suggesting is that someone has come off as scummy since D2 and comes out with a crazy claim that doesn't make sense. Having been in Host with him and seeing him do the same things, this doesn't mean he is scum (as he wasn't then) but it really seems strange to me.

So he's either making no effort to change his ways or is being instructed not to.

[petrija]

I understand what you're saying. However, IER, look at the write up for N1.

[i effin rule]

I understand what you're saying. However, IER, look at the write up for N1.

Are you suggesting one of the first two is WC?

I suppose it is possible. Banger could have added more roles to game after the number of players went up.

[petrija]

Are you suggesting one of the first two is WC?

I suppose it is possible. Banger could have added more roles to game after the number of players went up.

I'm saying I know what gender I am, and which one I'm pretty sure is me. Which is why I want to know WC's gender.

[petrija]

I'm saying I know what gender I am, and which one I'm pretty sure is me. Which is why I want to know WC's gender.

He does have a 50% chance of being right, though.

What's really confusing me, is how he figures I targeted BlueStar. I'd really like to know exactly what his ability is.

[Wrestling Century]

I actually don't have an ability. I am a vanilla townie, but I got a note saying that one of these three people targetted BlueStar on the night that he got night killed:

petrija
or
MichiganHero
or
canyoudothecancan

The most likely one to target BlueStar would be petrija, considering with how things went during the other day phase.

[Wrestling Century]

Oh, and also, my character is a male, but I don't think that that really means anything.

[Zeel1]

I actually don't have an ability. I am a vanilla townie, but I got a note saying that one of these three people targetted BlueStar on the night that he got night killed:

petrija
or
MichiganHero
or
canyoudothecancan

The most likely one to target BlueStar would be petrija, considering with how things went during the other day phase.

Because of this you said you were 100% sure she killed him, and there was no arguement she could give?

You realize that you would'nt even be able to be 100% sure she killed him, even if it was just her on that list?

[Nedew]

Not to mention that MichiganHero, Eager McVoterson, was also on that list. Hmm...

[petrija]

I actually don't have an ability. I am a vanilla townie, but I got a note saying that one of these three people targetted BlueStar on the night that he got night killed:

petrija
or
MichiganHero
or
canyoudothecancan

The most likely one to target BlueStar would be petrija, considering with how things went during the other day phase.

Then you did not KNOW I targeted him. You knew there was a 33% chance that I targeted him.

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase Three. With 10 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 5:00PM March 16th [EDT] / 9:00PM March 16th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

moon_lit_tears: 3 (petrija, Zeel1, i effin rule)
petrija: 1 (Wrestling Century)

[canyoudothecancan]

Then you did not KNOW I targeted him. You knew there was a 33% chance that I targeted him.

But he was making a pretty educated guess.

[petrija]

But he was making a pretty educated guess.

No, he really wasn't.

[BlueStar]

/pimps his diary ... dead. Good luck town.

[Nedew]

I'm dissapointed at MLT's lack of response. Maybe she's hoping it blows over and WC takes centre-stage (as he has a knack of doing, intentionally or not).

Maybe this'll perk her up, or y'know, perk her dead. If need be.

Vote: moon_lit_tears

[Nedew]

Of course, if she's lynched and turns up town, Pet's immediate response will be to say MLT was a miller. We'll see.

[moon_lit_tears]

I'm dissapointed at MLT's lack of response. Maybe she's hoping it blows over and WC takes centre-stage (as he has a knack of doing, intentionally or not).

Maybe this'll perk her up, or y'know, perk her dead. If need be.

Vote: moon_lit_tears

1. Pet says she got a bad read on me. I said either she is lying or something more is going on.

2. No questions have been asked. I see votes but nothing more. :D

[petrija]

Of course, if she's lynched and turns up town, Pet's immediate response will be to say MLT was a miller. We'll see.

Only if she claims miller.

1. Pet says she got a bad read on me. I said either she is lying or something more is going on.

2. No questions have been asked. I see votes but nothing more. :D

What is your role title?

[moon_lit_tears]

Only if she claims miller.



What is your role title?


You are: Isabella Jones, Bangerville Aligned Happy Citizen.

[petrija]

You are: Isabella Jones, Bangerville Aligned Happy Citizen.

Is there anything in your pm suggesting you'd come up non-town aligned to an investigation? It may not say that, it might just suggest that you're not liked, etc..

If not, any idea why you think you'd show up non-town aligned?

[moon_lit_tears]

Is there anything in your pm suggesting you'd come up non-town aligned to an investigation? It may not say that, it might just suggest that you're not liked, etc..

If not, any idea why you think you'd show up non-town aligned?

Pretty much says I like to stay to myself.

[Wallbanger]

It is now Day Phase Three. With 10 players still alive, it is 6 to lynch. You have until 5:00PM March 16th [EDT] / 9:00PM March 16th [GMT] to reach a majority. If a majority has not been reached at that time, a no lynch will be declared.

Vote Count:

moon_lit_tears: 4 (petrija, Zeel1, i effin rule, Nedew)
petrija: 1 (Wrestling Century)

[petrija]

So only 4 people are concerned about the scum result on MLT?

[EddieFnG]

Mm, considering there aren't many more leads to go on.

Vote: MLT

[Wrestling Century]

I'm still on the fence about putting a vote up for mlt. Should I?

[petrija]

I'm still on the fence about putting a vote up for mlt. Should I?

Think for yourself.

What's your opinion?

[Wrestling Century]

Think for yourself.

What's your opinion?

Well, she claimed, and her claim looks very similar to me role, so, IMO, she's town.

[petrija]

Well, she claimed, and her claim looks very similar to me role, so, IMO, she's town.

She also knew that "Happy Citizen" was the vanilla townie role title because BlueStar made that common knowledge.

[Wrestling Century]

She also knew that "Happy Citizen" was the vanilla townie role title because BlueStar made that common knowledge.

But my role is also "Happy Citizen" aligned, which in my mind clears her. Why else would three different people claim/show up to be "Happy Citizen" aligned?

[petrija]

But my role is also "Happy Citizen" aligned, which in my mind clears her. Why else would three different people claim/show up to be "Happy Citizen" aligned?

BlueStar said on Day 1 that "Happy Citizen" was the same as his and that he was vanilla. It would be easy for scum to then say "oh, happy citizen is the vanilla town role title. I'll just make up a name!"

[Wrestling Century]

BlueStar said on Day 1 that "Happy Citizen" was the same as his and that he was vanilla. It would be easy for scum to then say "oh, happy citizen is the vanilla town role title. I'll just make up a name!"

True. Very true. Now I am even more perplexed then before! :o

[petrija]

In other words, anyone who is vanilla, as in does not have an ability, is a Happy Citizen. I am not a Happy Citizen, because I have an ability. So my role title is different. However, I'm still Bangerville Aligned.

[Wrestling Century]

In other words, anyone who is vanilla, as in does not have an ability, is a Happy Citizen. I am not a Happy Citizen, because I have an ability. So my role title is different. However, I'm still Bangerville Aligned.

No, I understand that. I meant that I am more perplexed about whether or not I should vote for mlt. If she comes up town, then I'll probably get blamed, yet if she comes up scum and I didn't vote then I'll probably get blamed....

[Zeel1]

Pet, if we lynch her and she comes up town, would you vote for yourself?

[petrija]

If she comes up town, there's either shenanigans, or I'm insane and then we need to look into Zeel. However, in this game, I doubt there'd be an insane cop. Although with the suggestions in the write up, it's possible that there's one sane and one insane.

But my PM suggests that I'm experienced and know what I'm doing. So I doubt I'm insane.

[petrija]

Pet, if we lynch her and she comes up town, would you vote for yourself?

No. I'll vote for you. See above.

[Zeel1]

No. I'll vote for you. See above.

Ah, makes sense.

[petrija]

What's your view on the situation, Z?

[petrija]

Also. I'm really bothered by the quietness of MichiganHero and Eddie.

[moon_lit_tears]

In other words, anyone who is vanilla, as in does not have an ability, is a Happy Citizen. I am not a Happy Citizen, because I have an ability. So my role title is different. However, I'm still Bangerville Aligned.



I gave you what you asked foor.

I have no other way to defend myself because there is no other way.

Why ask me for a claaim if you are already convinced I am scum?

I gave my role as given in my pm. Oter than that it is in the towns hands.

[petrija]

I gave you what you asked foor.

I have no other way to defend myself because there is no other way.

Why ask me for a claaim if you are already convinced I am scum?

I gave my role as given in my pm. Oter than that it is in the towns hands.

In my situation, would you really just go,

"Oh, well, okay then. Must be some mistake!"

Here.

What are the last three words of your win condition?

[Zeel1]

I didn't really agree with people thinking you were scum because you asked if BHK was vanilla. It didn't make much sense as to how that would help you as scum, (and the fact that most of the people that agreed were newbs going "Yeah, why would you wanna know a role?! SUSPICIOUS~!", kinda turned me off of that idea further) so in that sense, and because no ones counter-claimed, I trust your claim as an investigator. And there's really no chance you're insane, in a micro-game. I mean, I don't know if I'd buy that in a 20-person game, let alone this one.

So, I trust your results, yeah. But, seeing as Arrows is my mentor and all, I might be a touch biased. :p

[Wrestling Century]

Change Vote: MichiganHero

He showed up on my list that I got, and I can't recall him posting ever since I brought up that list.

[petrija]

Change Vote: MichiganHero

He showed up on my list that I got, and I can't recall him posting ever since I brought up that list.

...Really?

[Zeel1]

What are the last three words of your win condition?

I don't know, that'd be a bit of an easy guess.

MLT, what is the tenth word of your win condition? That one's a little tougher.

[Wrestling Century]

...Really?

What do you mean by this? Sarcastic? Actually asking?

[petrija]

I don't know, that'd be a bit of an easy guess.

MLT, what is the tenth word of your win condition? That one's a little tougher.

I personally think that's easier. I'd like her to answer both.

MLT, what is the tenth word of your win condition, and what are the last three words?

[petrija]

What do you mean by this? Sarcastic? Actually asking?

We actually have a direction, with at least some foundation, that we're trying to work towards, with no reason to stop. By going in a different direction now, we could end up with split votes and a no lynch.

Fully look into one lead and eliminate/settle it before moving on to the next.

[Wrestling Century]

We actually have a direction, with at least some foundation, that we're trying to work towards, with no reason to stop. By going in a different direction now, we could end up with split votes and a no lynch.

Fully look into one lead and eliminate/settle it before moving on to the next.

Okay then.

Change Vote: No Vote

But like I'm said, I'm still on the fence about lynching mlt.

[petrija]

Okay then.

Change Vote: No Vote

But like I'm said, I'm still on the fence about lynching mlt.

Understandably, and at least the other direction you were looking into had valid reasoning. You're starting to think on track. Keep it up.

[Wrestling Century]

Understandably, and at least the other direction you were looking into had valid reasoning. You're starting to think on track. Keep it up.

Thanks. It looks like this training game is, well, actually training me!:D

[Wrestling Century]

Change Vote: moon lit tears

I've decided that I will put my vote up.

[Zeel1]

Change Vote: moon lit tears

I've decided that I will put my vote up.

Oh great, that's the sixth. Well, so much for those questions..

Unless Wallbanger discounts EddieG's vote for not doing the full name.

[i effin rule]

Oh great, that's the sixth. Well, so much for those questions..

Unless Wallbanger discounts EddieG's vote for not doing the full name.

Look on the bright side, we know who else is scum and I've been saying it for a while now.

[EddieFnG]

Change vote: Moon Lit Tears

Better?

he's been asked questions and not answered properly.

[Nedew]

Better?

No actually, both you and WC missed the underscores :p

[petrija]

I find it interesting that she's not here to answer questions and she's literally ALWAYS here.