A little part of me dies... every time I see DX.

[Eisen-verse]

What I mean by this was the fact that Degeneration X was, quite possibly, the greatest wrestling faction in the 90's (An era that I watched religiously), however, now-a-days they are nothing more than a gimmick tag team.

Now, I know that the very things that made DX popular back in the day (ie: being brash, controversial, sexualized) is not possible in today's WWE. However, this "new" PG level.... Constantly going for the stupid joke... Mindless segments that they subject themselves too is an utter let down.

Also, Shawn Michaels, sadly, is at a level right now where you can't realistically look at him as a title contender. Sure, they could overhaul his push in time... However, when part of DX he seems like a stupid, annoying, little brat (However, not in the good way that he use to be).

Blah. Just a rant on my part.

I miss the 90's.... I know a lot of us do... But, I miss when wrestling had an attitude to it.... When you never knew what could happen each and every week because LITERALLY anything could happen.

Boo. Just simply... Boo.

[Johnny Fenoli]

Originally Posted by Eisen-verse

What I mean by this was the fact that Degeneration X was, quite possibly, the greatest wrestling faction in the 90's (An era that I watched religiously), however, now-a-days they are nothing more than a gimmick tag team.

Now, I know that the very things that made DX popular back in the day (ie: being brash, controversial, sexualized) is not possible in today's WWE. However, this "new" PG level.... Constantly going for the stupid joke... Mindless segments that they subject themselves too is an utter let down.

Also, Shawn Michaels, sadly, is at a level right now where you can't realistically look at him as a title contender. Sure, they could overhaul his push in time... However, when part of DX he seems like a stupid, annoying, little brat (However, not in the good way that he use to be).

Blah. Just a rant on my part.

I miss the 90's.... I know a lot of us do... But, I miss when wrestling had an attitude to it.... When you never knew what could happen each and every week because LITERALLY anything could happen.

Boo. Just simply... Boo.

Co-Signed.

[moon_lit_tears]

I watched in the 90's and early 2000's.

I think it ha gotten to boring.

The flash and "pretty boys" kind of ruin it for me. / Along with the crappy story lines.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Pretty obvious you're gonna cringe if you grew up watching the original DX. But DX as they are right now... call me crazy but I don't mind them. They're not the greatest team out there, but they still have their... moments. Well.. >_>

Thing is, many complained about them being 40-year olds acting like rebellious teenagers, and now that they're not doing that anymore... the haterade still continues. Can't have them all, so you know. They're doing the best they can. From a booker's point I'd have brought DX back as well and milked the sh-- out of it too. Looking at how their merch rates, I'd say that's one boat WWE took well care of.

[moon_lit_tears]

Originally Posted by Tha Black Phenom

Pretty obvious you're gonna cringe if you grew up watching the original DX. But DX as they are right now... call me crazy but I don't mind them. They're not the greatest team out there, but they still have their... moments. Well.. >_>

Thing is, many complained about them being 40-year olds acting like rebellious teenagers, and now that they're not doing that anymore... the haterade still continues. Can't have them all, so you know. They're doing the best they can. From a booker's point I'd have brought DX back as well and milked the sh-- out of it too. Looking at how their merch rates, I'd say that's one boat WWE took well care of.

I agree with you. Growing up with DX before was good.

Thev ounger generation seems to like them.

As long as Al Snow does not make a come back I am ok.

[BHK1978]

Well I have always hated HHH and Shawn Michales with a passion, so they are annoying me just as much as they ever have.

[moon_lit_tears]

Originally Posted by BHK1978

Well I have always hated HHH and Shawn Michales with a passion, so they are annoying me just as much as they ever have.

How can you hate the Heart break kid. I thnk my heart shattered into a million pieces

[BHK1978]

Originally Posted by moon_lit_tears

How can you hate the Heart break kid. I thnk my heart shattered into a million pieces

I have hated HBK going back to when he was with the Rockers. And over time my opinion has never changed. Now I am not saying he is not a great worker, because he is.

[djthefunkchris]

Originally Posted by Tha Black Phenom

Pretty obvious you're gonna cringe if you grew up watching the original DX. But DX as they are right now... call me crazy but I don't mind them. They're not the greatest team out there, but they still have their... moments. Well.. >_>

Thing is, many complained about them being 40-year olds acting like rebellious teenagers, and now that they're not doing that anymore... the haterade still continues. Can't have them all, so you know. They're doing the best they can. From a booker's point I'd have brought DX back as well and milked the sh-- out of it too. Looking at how their merch rates, I'd say that's one boat WWE took well care of.

I agree.

I don't have any problems with DX at all, and find them amusing in a good way.

I don't think the WWE really changed with the PG thing either, they were already PG... Except for the Diva contests once in a while, and the..... Less then desirable angle's that were a bit tasteless.

Outside of that, I see no difference, this is what they been doing for the last four or five years anyways.

[dvdWarrior]

Personally, I miss the 80's, and a little part of me dies every time I see WWE and TNA do... pretty much anything it seems. Beyond that though, Hornswoggle, (though surprisingly not as much lately), Chavo Guerrero and Jamie Noble getting pwned every time you turn around, and Evan Bourne taking on the role of 'Jobber To The Stars' are the big things giving me grief nowadays.

DX doesn't really do anything for me, no, and sometimes I think they're trying too hard to be funny, but I really can't say I mind them too much.

But then, I've always been an HBK fan, so I guess maybe I'm able to overlook some stuff.

[moon_lit_tears]

I lost alot of respect for the Wwe after Eddies death.

The storline was pothetic.

[The Final Countdown]

Originally Posted by Eisen-verse

What I mean by this was the fact that Degeneration X was, quite possibly, the greatest wrestling faction in the 90's

Greater than the nWo? No way. The original Michaels/HHH DX was interesting, but the nWo was just far better. It may have gotten watered down over time, but the early days of the nWo were, for my money, one of the most entertaining and fun periods in wrestling history.

I agree with the main point of your post, BTW. When I first realized they were about to reform DX in...2006, I think it was, I immediately stopped watching Raw. They were an interesting act 12 years ago or whatever it was, but I have no interest in seeing it rehashed in the present. Haven't really watched Raw with any regularity since then.

[Eisen-verse]

Originally Posted by The Final Countdown

Greater than the nWo? No way. The original Michaels/HHH DX was interesting, but the nWo was just far better. It may have gotten watered down over time, but the early days of the nWo were, for my money, one of the most entertaining and fun periods in wrestling history.

I agree with the main point of your post, BTW. When I first realized they were about to reform DX in...2006, I think it was, I immediately stopped watching Raw. They were an interesting act 12 years ago or whatever it was, but I have no interest in seeing it rehashed in the present. Haven't really watched Raw with any regularity since then.

I knew this was coming...

The classic "DX or nWo - Who was better war". ha. All in all, I didn't really mean to rain on the nWo's parade. Just felt, for me, that DX was more compelling in a way.

[The Final Countdown]

Originally Posted by Eisen-verse

I knew this was coming...

The classic "DX or nWo - Who was better war". ha. All in all, I didn't really mean to rain on the nWo's parade. Just felt, for me, that DX was more compelling in a way.

It's cool. Wrestling's all a personal preference thing anyway. I think Bryan Danielson rules, but others may find his matches slow and boring. I'm OK with that. To each his own, as they say.

Personally, while I enjoyed the early days of DX and thought they did a lot to liven up Raw, I just feel like the nWo was far more significant. Nash and Hall "invading", Hogan turning heel and being pelted by trash...good times.

[Remianen]

I don't like how they turned the stable concept into a simple tag team. I felt DX was probably the best chance the 'E had at a face stable and they basically blew it.

DX in the 90s had a perfect setup with one main eventer (Shawn), one mid/upper midcarder (Hunter), a tag team (NAO) and a gimmicky singles worker (Chyna, for a bit). What's better is, they debuted in pretty much that fashion so none of the parts felt tacked on as afterthoughts. If you remember, Evolution had the same basic setup (Hunter as the ME, Flair & Batista as the tag team, Orton as the midcard singles worker - no gimmick worker though).

I think in the age where they had a real need for budding stars (when seemingly all of their headliners were injured for parts of the year), that concept would've allowed them to plug people into it. WWE's fanbase being what it is (no comment), all workers need really is face time. Associating them with two of the biggest stars in the company can work wonders for that. The annual draft even gives them the opportunity to 'refresh' the stable on a regular basis, preventing it from getting stale.

It just seemed to be the perfect situation to create storylines that write themselves while elevating young talent from the FCW/ECW level in a way that lets you know if you "have" something there. The New Age Outlaws weren't as popular as they were because of their in-ring work, after all. And the NAO didn't get over like that on their own. Anyone paired with Hunter & HBK is guaranteed lots of face time on TV, which is pretty much all you need for WWE's fanbase. It's more important to be familiar and recognizable than skilled (or even talented, right Khali?).